Forecast Discussions mentioning any of "HRRR" "RAP" "RUC13" "RUC" "RR" received at GSD on 11/26/23


Area Forecast Discussion...Updated
National Weather Service Lincoln IL
844 PM CST Sat Nov 25 2023 .SYNOPSIS... Issued at 844 PM CST Sat Nov 25 2023 Our first measurable snow of this winter arrives later tonight into Sunday morning, when a weather system brings light accumulating snow to areas north of a line from Shelbyville to Danville. A Winter Weather Advisory is in effect for counties along and west of the Illinois River where snow amounts at or above 2 inches are most probable. && .UPDATE... Issued at 844 PM CST Sat Nov 25 2023 Evening surface map indicated 1016 mb low pressure over northeast OK. Aloft, a shortwave was noted on water vapor imagery over southwest KS, with a good plume of mid level moisture ahead of this feature expanding from the central Plains east into western IA and MO. Radar returns already lighting up as far east as west central IL, but this is all virga until much farther west across central IA and northwest MO. 00z KILX sounding showed a sharp dry layer below 850 mb which will take time to saturate, but as stronger lift overspreads west central IL later tonight, snow will rapidly develop for areas west of the IL River between midnight and 3 am, then spread east toward I-55 through sunrise. Overall thinking on timing and amounts has not changed much from the previous forecast. Still seeing signs of transient stronger f-gen banding from about 3-10 am northwest of I-55, which should produce periods of moderate snow and amounts by mid to late morning of 1-3 inches in the advisory area. Slick travel is likely in this area through around 8-10 am, then with surface temperatures rising above freezing any accumulations on roadways should be ending. Southeast of the advisory area, most of the snow will be falling during the daylight hours with temperatures above freezing, so minor accumulations on grassy and elevated surfaces are possible into east central IL, with little to no issues anticipated on roads. 25 && .DISCUSSION... Issued at 330 PM CST Sat Nov 25 2023 Key Messages: * Our first measurable snow of this winter will arrive later tonight and continue through around midday on Sunday. Slippery roads are expected for holiday travelers returning home. * Much cooler temperatures arrive early in the week with wind chills in the single digits expected on Monday and Tuesday mornings. * Things turn drier going into the new week with temperatures regulating back to near normal by midweek. The next chance of precipitation comes Thursday night and Friday, mostly as rain. High pressure extending across Illinois this afternoon will give way to a storm system developing along the southern border of Colorado. That low will eject across the southern Plains and phase with an upper level trough digging SE from the Canadian Prairies. While surface cyclogenesis appears to be relatively weak as winter storms go, there are a couple of features that could trigger some enhanced snowfall. There is a potential vorticity (PV) anomaly associated with the Plains low that will advance eastward and interact with the leading edge of a mid-level jet max across the northwest half of Illinois. In concert with that, HRRR and other high resolution guidance are pointing toward enhanced Fn Petterson frontogenesis in the 850-750 layer aligned in SW to NE bands in that same area. That could briefly boost snowfall rates over 1/2" per hour. DESI HREF guidance indicates around 40-60% chance of greater than 2" snowfall in bands west of I-55. Additionally, winds will generally be light during the snowfall, so little fracturing of the crystals is expected which can tend to reduce snowfall totals due to compaction of the smaller flakes. So snowfall can accumulate more efficiently under lighter wind conditions. The 12z model suite shifted some higher QPF amounts farther east toward I-55 after 6 am Sunday morning across our CWA. Which increased snowfall amounts farther east as well. Therefore, after collaboration with surrounding offices, we added a row of counties on the east side of the Illinois River to the Winter Weather Advisory. This is still a low end advisory, but since it the first measurable snowfall of the season and it is occurring when a high number of travels are expected after Thanksgiving, we defaulted to issue the advisory to alert everyone to slippery conditions. The snowfall will generally shift east of central Illinois by early afternoon, but a trailing trough sweeping across northern Illinois will trigger spotty light snow or flurries into Sunday evening across areas along and north of I-74. No additional accumulation will occur from that however. Sunday night, high pressure will advance into the area from the Plains, increasing the pressure gradient across the area. Those winds will remain brisk through Monday morning when surface temps dip into the upper teens to low 20s. Apparent temperatures will be in the single digits Monday morning. Very similar conditions are likely Tuesday morning as 850mb temps dip near -10C. By mid-week, the high pressure will shift into the SE U.S. providing our area with return flow and moderating temperatures. By Friday, highs will climb above normal to near 50. However, rain chances will return Thursday night and Friday. Shimon && .AVIATION... (For the 00z TAFs through 00z Sunday Evening) Issued at 533 PM CST Sat Nov 25 2023 The focus of the aviation forecast is accumulating snow that spreads across the terminals late tonight through midday Sunday. Latest guidance has trended more pessimistic on ceilings and visibilities, and have adjusted TAFs accordingly to show IFR conditions from around 10-20z. Conditions may drop to LIFR at times during the peak of the snow from 12-16z, but did not include this yet as confidence is low. As the system pulls away a gradual improvement is expected during the afternoon with MVFR conditions returning by late afternoon. Winds will be light from the east overnight and south Sunday morning, then become gusty from the west on the back side of the system. 25 && .ILX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... Winter Weather Advisory from midnight tonight to noon CST Sunday for ILZ027>031-036-037-040-041-047. && $$
Area Forecast Discussion
National Weather Service Pocatello ID
153 PM MST Sat Nov 25 2023 .SHORT TERM...Tonight through Tue afternoon. Strong high pressure leaves the period dry and clear aloft, with the only forecast concerns being fog and stratus below the radiation inversion. If it is deep and widespread, afternoon highs may not warm up much; on the bright side, overnight lows will not be as cold. The fog could produce black ice on road surfaces for morning travelers. Do not believe a dense fog advisory will be necessary, but expect whichever develops (fog or stratus) to be fairly widespread tonight. Temperatures in the mountains, where there will be more sunshine, should get above seasonal normals by Mon. For Snake River plain locations, perhaps by Tue. Wind under high pressure not expected to amount to much. Messick .LONG TERM...Wednesday through Saturday. The beginning of the long term forecast is a quiet one. Our ridge of high pressure will break down a bit on Wednesday thanks to a low passing to our south, but all of the associated moisture remains to our south. Weak ridging over eastern Idaho on Thursday will keep highs in the low to mid 30s for most, just a couple of degrees cooler than highs on Wednesday. In fact, highs will stay in the 30s for most of next week and weekend. We stay dry on Thursday, too, but that could begin to change as early as Thursday night into Friday as our next system begins to move in. The GFS drops a shortwave trough out of British Columbia and through Idaho on Friday, bringing a chance for snow showers with it before bringing yet another shortwave through on Sunday with another round of showers. To no one`s surprise, the ECMWF doesn`t paint quite the same pictures. It drops another low to our south on Friday and keeps us dry, but does bring a shortwave in on Saturday and then keeps us in northwesterly flow aloft and brings in a few waves of snow showers from Saturday all through the weekend. While all WPC clusters do show some type of troughing impacting southern Idaho for Friday and Saturday, they all vary in intensity and placement. We still have almost a week to work out these wrinkles, but it does look like we`ll head back into a more active pattern in early December. AMM && .AVIATION... 18Z Saturday through 18Z Sunday. We remain in northerly flow aloft through the weekend, keeping us cold. In addition to the cold, we keep around this low-level moisture and very little wind, meaning freezing fog and low stratus will be the name of the game for now. The bulk of the low stratus was hanging out near BYI through the morning, but is working up the Snake Plain, reaching PIH and towards IDA, and into surrounding valleys like SUN. In fact, we`ve already seen IFR CIGs at SUN and MVFR CIGs at PIH. While conditions are expected to improve around 3Z at SUN with the usual diurnal wind shift, CIGs WILL stay low/drop elsewhere. There is about a 30 to 50 percent chance of CIGs less than 1000 ft overnight into early Sunday at BYI, IDA, and DIJ. At PIH, it`s about a 20 percent chance, but still near a 50 percent chance for at least MVFR CIGs. There is about a 30 to 40 percent chance that low CIGs drop to LIFR levels around 06Z Sunday at IDA, BYI, and DIJ. The HRRR also wants to bring these sites down to LIFR levels and bounce PIH back and for between IFR/LIFR levels tonight through early Sunday. AMM && .PIH WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... None. && $$