Forecast Discussions mentioning any of "HRRR" "RAP" "RUC13" "RUC" "RR" received at GSD on 09/20/23


Area Forecast Discussion
National Weather Service La Crosse WI
1052 PM CDT Tue Sep 19 2023 .DISCUSSION...(This evening through Tuesday) Issued at 210 PM CDT Tue Sep 19 2023 Key Messages: - Rain chances through Wednesday (Spotty-10-30% due to low confidence in location/coverage) - Still some uncertainties in how the upper level pattern will evolve for the weekend. Even so, there is continued signal for increasing shower and storm chances. *Overview: By mid-morning, the shortwave trough was pushing across southern Wisconsin with the general rain area south of the forecast area. Rainfall amounts from the evening and overnight rains were generally from 0.20" to 1.00" and covered parts of southeast MN, northeast IA, and southwest WI. The Rochester airport reported thunder but no rain, KLSE had 0.19", however Onalaska only had 0.01" and at the NWS La Crosse, we measured 0.13". Lancaster WI had 0.72" and the Platteville, WI area reported .5 to 1". GOES water vapor satellite imagery, heights and lightning showed several embedded shortwave troughs over parts of WI/IA/ern Neb. with additional trough energy over CO/KS/OK in the zonal flow. Additional longwave troughing was noted over western Canada/Pacific Northwest and a closed low off the California Coast. The latest surface map has surface high pressure over Michigan with an elongated area of low pressure from Manitoba southward through the Plains States. A warm front stretched from southwest Iowa into northern Missouri. There is the hint in the surface pressure of a front from southeast MN into central WI in the area of the 850mb front. Storms were re-developing with the shortwave trough over parts of western and central Iowa by late morning. *Through Wednesday- Showers and storms still spotty, but will try to increase Wednesday for some: As the weak 500mb shortwave drifts east and we maintain deep low level moisture and some mid-level moisture, we will continue to see some shower and storm activity. The CAMs/HREF have a spattering of precipitation along the southern fringes of the forecast area with an increase after 08z and some northward lifting across parts of the forecast area. The HiRes-ARW is more west, while the HRRR is more east, while the RAP is west to east Wednesday. The storms over Iowa have not been moving much off the outflow boundary. Recent radar shows a southward push off the eastern portion of the line and more of an eastward drift and weakening of the western part of the line. Additional development may have trouble developing farther north. Due to lower than usual confidence, will include small pops to account for the uncertainty and location of showers storms with the shortwave, continued theta-e advection, moisture transport and some increase in instability (MLCAPE 200-1200 J/kg) overnight to 1000- 2500J/kg Wednesday. *Wednesday night through early next week- Increasing weekend shower and storm chances: Lower confidence shower and storm chances continue to spot the forecast as guidance shows multiple impulses move across the region. As the shortwave continues to lift north/northeast across the forecast area late Wednesday through Thursday, there remains some variability in guidance on the continued development and progression of showers. As mentioned earlier, will maintain small precipitation chances to account for this uncertainty. Through this time, a deep closed upper level low is still forecast to drop down through the northwestern U.S., eventually progressing eastward and slowing down towards the north- central states. Low shower and storm chances /15-35%/ continue heading into the overnight Thursday and through Friday as impulses eject out ahead of the incoming trough. From there uncertainty still remains in the evolution and progression of this upper level pattern through the weekend, though, as the upper level low moves eastward ensemble guidance suggests increasing shower and thunderstorm chances should expand into the region. The main question just becomes how much. There looks to be plenty of moisture as NAEFS and ECMWF both show PWATs in the 90th percentile of climatology, so heavier rainfall potential will be something to monitor. Though hard to pinpoint exact details now, will also be worth watching the risk of severe weather as SPC has highlighted a small portion of northeastern IA and southeastern MN in the Saturday outlook. As expected with the uncertainties in the pattern, there is lower confidence in how long shower and storm chances will linger. Otherwise, a general decreasing trend in high temperatures looks to end the weekend and start the new week (upper 60s to low 70s). && .AVIATION...(For the 06Z TAFS through 06Z Wednesday night) Issued at 1051 PM CDT Tue Sep 19 2023 VFR conditions are expected through the TAF period. The biggest forecast concern remains the possibility of showers and storms (20- 30% chance) across parts of southeast Minnesota, northeast Iowa, and western Wisconsin Wednesday afternoon and evening. Confidence is too low to add impacts to the TAFs at this time, but visibility restrictions are possible if showers/storms develop. && .ARX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... WI...NONE. MN...NONE. IA...NONE. && $$ DISCUSSION...EMS/Zapotocny AVIATION...KAA
Area Forecast Discussion
National Weather Service Des Moines IA
641 PM CDT Tue Sep 19 2023 ...Updated for the 00z Aviation Discussion... .DISCUSSION.../Tonight through Tuesday/ Issued at 253 PM CDT Tue Sep 19 2023 Key Messages: -Showers and sub-severe thunderstorms continue to fester through the afternoon and evening; heavy rain, small hail, and gusty winds possible -Sporadic showers and thunderstorm chances through the rest of the week -More robust system moving in this weekend As was somewhat alluded to by short-range guidance yesterday, scattered showers and thunderstorms have festered through the morning hours and into the early afternoon, although storms have been further north and far more robust than was anticipated yesterday. This convection has been anchored to a region of warm air advection aloft and embedded within a region of marginal instability. Most-Unable CAPE values as analyzed by the SPC meso- analysis page are only ~1000 J/kg aloft and wind profiles have diminished through the morning, leading to sub-severe shear values and pulse thunderstorms that are producing primarily dime to nickel sized hail. Rainfall with these storms today have also been more efficient than previously anticipated, primarily due to slow moving storms training over the same areas. Those that have been under the precipitation today have seen anywhere from 1 to 3 inches of rainfall. Fortunately, dry conditions have allowed for this to be mostly absorbed by the dry soils. Despite CAMs such as the HRRR trying to dissipate the storms today, they don`t actually show any signs of stopping, so anticipating that these will fester along the Hwy 30 corridor and south through the rest of the afternoon. Heavy rain, small hail and gusty winds will all remain possible. Flash flooding likely wont be a concern in most places, but urban areas could see some ponding if this line stalls out over top of them. This pattern of poorly resolved, scattered showers and thunderstorms continues through much of the week, as we reside in a weakly forced but highly perturbed upper level pattern. This is resulting in a large amount of variation between CAMs and global models alike, which has translated to a smattering of precipitation chances in the forecast. As was mentioned in previous discussions, rain likely wont fall for all those who have rain in their forecast, nor will it fall for the entire period chances are present, but with the sporadic nature of storms there will be a chance of rain/storms in these areas through much of the week. Fortunately, the severe chances with any precipitation looks minimal. There will be periods of relatively higher instability (1000 to 2000 J/kg), but due to the weak flow aloft it will be difficult for much of anything to organize. That being said, pulsey pop up storms would still be capable of producing small hail and gusty winds, much like we`ve seen today. Looking later into the week and towards the weekend, we`ll see an intensifying trough develop over the western CONUS which will bring us a couple different rain and thunderstorm chances starting late Thursday and lasting periodically through the weekend. Global models are indicating at multiple lobes of energy rotating around the digging trough through the weekend, with the first coming Thursday night into Friday morning, the second being Friday night into Saturday morning, then the third being Saturday into Sunday. The low then stalls out overhead into early next week, bringing even more precipitation chances as it slowly departs through the area Monday into Tuesday. Needless to say, this would result in quite a wet weekend with storm chances possible on multiple days. Severe weather will also be possible, especially Friday night and Saturday night when instability is highest and wind fields are most prominent around the low, supporting more deep layer shear. This is echoed in both the SPC Day 5 outlook (15% chance of severe weather over our area) as well as the CSU machine learning algorithm`s day 4 and 5 severe weather outlook. This is still multiple days out there, so its too early to get too locked into the details, as things will likely still change. However, models are coming into decent agreement and the trend has been fairly consistent for at least a rainy weekend, so this is definitely a system to keep on your radar if you have any weekend plans! && .AVIATION.../For the 00Z TAFS through 00Z Wednesday evening/ Issued at 641 PM CDT Tue Sep 19 2023 Thunderstorms will continue to impacts sites KDSM/KOTM this evening, expected to taper off towards 06z. VFR overcast skies persist through much of the remaining TAF period across most sites, beginning to diminish north at KFOD/KMCW towards the end of the TAF period. && .DMX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... NONE. && $$ DISCUSSION...Dodson AVIATION...Hagenhoff
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
National Weather Service Hastings NE
636 PM CDT Tue Sep 19 2023 ...Aviation Update... .DISCUSSION...(This evening through Tuesday) Issued at 457 PM CDT Tue Sep 19 2023 -- KEY MESSAGES FOR THE ENTIRE 7-DAY FORECAST: (generally chronological order) * MOST areas dry/storm-free through Wed night: Although there could be some very isolated/spotty (and likely non- severe) thunderstorm activity late this afternoon-evening and again Wed afternoon-evening, the vast majority of our coverage area (CWA) will likely remain dry through at least sunrise Thurs. * Various rounds of showers/storms (some likely severe) between Thursday-Saturday: Although still plenty of "finer details" to work out (especially given a somewhat complex upper air pattern with various lower- amplitude waves preceding the eventual primary upper low), at least a few rounds of showers/storms are still looking likely between Thurs daytime and Saturday. Most of the CWA is already under an SPC Marginal Risk (level 1 of 5) for severe storms mainly for late Thurs afternoon-evening and most of the CWA is also already highlighted in a Day 4 Slight Risk (equivalent) for Friday, and if the latest ECMWF is onto anything then especially eastern zones could be under the gun for Saturday afternoon before the main upper system/surface front sweep away appreciable instability. Main threats would be the usual large hail/damaging winds, but early glances at a decent combo of instability/shear would also suggest a non-zero tornado threat in that Fri-Sat time frame, so this bears watching. * Temperature overview: A modest cool-down beyond today (and especially beyond tomorrow): Following a couple of days that got legitimately hot by mid-late September standards (yesterday and today), we have one more day of solidly above-normal warmth on Wednesday (highs mainly mid-upper 80s) before a more noticeable downward trend with highs mainly in the mid 70s-low 80s range commences Thursday onward. Despite this cool-down, there are currently no appreciable signs of any kind of "truly chilly" fall air anytime soon, with both the latest ECMWF ensemble data and official CPC Day 8-14 outlook (valid Sep. 27-Oct. 3) leaning pretty solidly toward above-normal highs into the mid-70s to low 80s range. * Some uncertainty regarding how dry it will be Sun-Tues: Looking toward the very end of the 7-day, there are probably more questions (compared to 24 hours ago) regarding how quickly (or slowly) any "wrap-around" rain shower potential departs behind this weekend`s system. Per the typically faster/more progressive GFS, all three of these days could be dry CWA-wide. However, the ECMWF (and particularly this latest run) has thrown a wrinkle by greatly slowing the departure of the main low this weekend, and keeping at least light/spotty rain potential going (especially in northern/eastern zones) right on through Tuesday. Obviously plenty of uncertainty this far out, but our latest forecast maintains some low rain chances/PoPs for this time frame mainly north/east to account for the ECMWF scenario. -- MORE DETAILS/INFO BUILDING UPON KEY MESSAGES ABOVE (including all further discussion of Days 2-7 Thurs-Tues): - Biggest changes (if any) versus previous (overnight) forecast package: Honestly, no major changes to speak of, as the general theme of Thurs-Sat being by far the most active portion of the 7-day forecast remain firmly intact. The main changes involved minor temperature nudges, mainly a very slight downward nudge for Thursday (due to expectation of quite a few clouds/some precip around), and slight upward nudges mainly for Saturday (likely trending toward a slightly-slower cold front arrival). - General overview of the large-scale upper air/surface weather pattern (chronological): 1) Tonight-Wed night: The vast majority of our CWA likely remains dry as our flow aloft gradually transitions from its current west-northwesterly to more southwesterly as a large-scale trough/closed low eventually takes form over the northwestern CONUS. 2) Thurs-Sat night: As mentioned, we still have some work to do on the "finer details" of rain/thunderstorm/severe storm chances during this time, as the "exact" timing of various low-amplitude waves will be key, along with of course exactly how/when the MAIN upper low kicks out across the Plains. As it currently stands per latest ECMWF/GFS, we get one weak upper wave passing through Thurs afternoon-evening, another lead-wave centered on Fri afternoon-evening, and then finally the main/parent upper low slow enters/drifts across mainly parts of SD/NE Sat-Sat night, while also driving through a dryline/cold front in the process (which could be a severe weather maker as it does so). 3) Sun-Tues: As also hit on above, probably one of the bigger changes in the model world (versus 24 hours ago) is that both the ECMWF/GFS (but especially ECMWF) have trended slower with the departure of the gradually-weakening main upper low (and subsequent building-in of riding from the west). Taking the latest deterministic ECMWF at face-value (of course its far too early to do this), PoPs for "wrap around" rain showers may need increased during this time, and our going temp forecast could actually be a bit too warm. -- SHORTER TERM DETAILS FOCUSED SOLELY ON THE NEXT 36 HOURS (through late Wed night/early Thurs AM): - CURRENT/RECENT WEATHER SCENE AS OF 415 PM: Most notably, for the second-straight day, temperatures have exceeded forecast expectations by at least a few degrees most areas, with most of the CWA on track to top out in the 90-94 range (Grand Island actually got within 4 degrees of its Sep. 19 record of 98 that was just set last year). Turning to the mid-upper levels, water vapor satellite and short term model data confirm broad west-northwest flow over the Central Plains, with a low amplitude disturbance centered just to our east (generally over the NE/IA) border helping to drive more widespread/persistent- than-expected thunderstorm activity over parts of IA today. With our CWA just behind this wave, it`s been a dry day for at least ht vast majority of the CWA, under a mix of sun and high clouds. Wind-wise, as expected they have been lighter than yesterday, with speeds in most areas this afternoon no more than 5-10 MPH and generally from a southerly/easterly direction owing to a very weak pressure gradient (except for some higher gusts 0f 15+ MPH in mainly far southeast zones (around Hebron/Beloit). - LATE THIS AFTERNOON-TONIGHT: Odds strongly favor the vast majority of the CWA remaining dry, as we remain "in between" subtle disturbances aloft, and largely absent of any lower-level jet convergence. That being said, opted to go with a basic "slight chance" (20 percent) of showers/thunderstorms for mainly parts of our KS and far western Neb CWA through 11 PM or so, just in case some fairly weak/high- based activity is able to "pop" during and slightly after peak heating. A few models (including latest NAMNest) suggest that evening shift will also have to keep an eye on our far northeast CWA (mainly Polk/York area) to make sure something isolated also doesn`t flare up there before nightfall, but at least for now kept a dry forecast going in that area as the last several HRRR runs keep that area at least weakly-capped. In other departments, while the night will start out no worse than partly cloudy most areas, various models (especially NAM) suggest that much of especially the southeast half of the CWA could see a "slug" of low clouds advect in from the south-southeast between midnight-sunrise. Should this occur, suppose a ribbon of at least light fog could develop along the west-northwest edge of these clouds, but kept any official fog mention out of the forecast for now given low confidence. Breezes overnight will be light and mainly southerly (especially east), which will result in a moisture/dewpoint boundary of sorts. This moisture discontinuity, along with invading lower clouds southeast, will likely promote at least a 10-degree gradient in low temps tonight, and have them aimed form low 50s far north and west-central, to low 60s southeast. - WEDNESDAY DAYTIME-EVENING: Starting with higher-confidence items, confidence is high that at least the vast majority of the CWA remains dry through late afternoon/early evening, as we continue to remain in a zone of minimal forcing aloft. That being said, a wave approaching from the west late in the afternoon looks to spark off some isolated/scattered (and mainly weak) thunderstorm activity MAINLY just to our west over western NE. However, with higher-res models suggesting that some of this activity could at least clip of our far western zones, introduced slight chance of storms to areas mainly west of an Elm Creek-Alma line 4 PM-Midnight. In lower- confidence aspects of the forecast, are questions about how quickly (or slowly) any low cloud deck present in the morning clears out. For now, our forecast leans toward a fairly aggressive clearing (especially for the afternoon), but this is not a sure thing. Obviously this could easily have at least a 5-degree impact on high temps, but for now made little change to previous forecast with most areas aimed into the 83-87 range. Breezes will be a bit steadier than today (mainly in the afternoon), generally 10-15 MPH from the south-southeast. - WEDNESDAY LATER NIGHT: Although it`s not "guaranteed" dry, opted to follow the lead of higher res-models and keep the midnight-sunrise time frame void of mentionable PoPs at this time. That being said, the usually low- level moisture-aggressive NAM tries to saturate the low-level enough to generate at least patchy drizzle. Not ready to buy into this just yet, but something to watch going forward. At the very least, expect increasing lower cloud as the night wears on, in the presence of generally 5-10 MPH southeasterly breezes. Low temps should be a bit more uniform across the CWA than tonight, and have most areas aimed 58-61. Also like tonight, there is probably a chance for at least some light fog, but just wasn`t enough of a solid signal in higher-res models to formally introduce to the forecast. && .AVIATION...(For the 00Z KGRI/KEAR TAFS through 00Z Thursday) Issued at 634 PM CDT Tue Sep 19 2023 VFR conditions persist this evening at both terminals. Expect light and variable winds at KEAR, with winds out of the south at KGRI through the evening and overnight hours. A few low clouds are expected to move into the region overnight, moving out tomorrow afternoon. Wind remain generally around 5-10kts from the south- southeast tomorrow. && .GID WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... NE...NONE. KS...NONE. && $$ DISCUSSION...Pfannkuch AVIATION...Wekesser
Area Forecast Discussion
National Weather Service Chicago/Romeoville, IL
749 PM CDT Tue Sep 19 2023 .UPDATE... Issued at 749 PM CDT Tue Sep 19 2023 The forecast appears to be on track this evening. A recent hand surface analysis places a surface warm front stretching from a weak surface low pressure system near Omaha, NE southeastward to just east of St. Louis, MO. A second, more diffuse, warm front is draped from near Moline, IA to Rensselaer, IN. A few showers continue to percolate north of the secondary warm front across the Chicago metropolitan area, apparently tied to subtle isentropic ascent atop the frontal boundary being forced by an intensifying 25-30kt 925-850mb low-level jet. As the low-level jet continues lifting northeastward, any remaining showers should become confined to far eastern Wisconsin and Lake Michigan over the next few hours. Meanwhile, a somewhat disorganized cluster of showers and thunderstorms that originally developed earlier this afternoon continues to fester across central Iowa. Recent radar imagery shows signs that a broad mesoscale convective vortex is developing, currently centered just to the east of Des Moines. With about 15- 20kt of westerly steering flow, the developing MCV appears on track to drift eastward this evening and cross the Mississippi River after midnight near the intersection of the aforementioned synoptic and secondary warm fronts. With the increase in mesoscale forcing and southerly enhancement to the low-level jet ahead of the circulation atop the broad combined warm frontal zones, a gradual increase in shower coverage remains on track for our area overnight seemingly centered near the I-88 and I-80 corridors. Coverage of showers may continue after sunrise before fading by mid-Wednesday morning as the low-level jet wanes. While PWATs are not overly high (00Z DVN/ILX RAOBs sampled around 1"), slow shower motions, MUCAPE between 250-500 J/kg, and augmented dynamic lift near the center of the MCV may nevertheless promote surprisingly efficient rain rates especially if convective elements can develop within an otherwise meagerly unstable regime. If showers and embedded thunderstorms were to focus along a narrow axis, isolated rain totals above an inch would certainly be in play overnight. For what it is worth, the NAM3 seems to provide a "worst case scenario" with narrow pockets of 2-3" within an otherwise broad brushed 0.25" or so, which on top of wet soil may lead to localized ponding in ditches and low-lying areas as well as rises in creek and river levels. Confidence in where such an axis of heavier rain may materialize, if at all, is fairly low (less than 10 percent chance?). At any rate, you can never leave your guard down when mesoscale circulations ride along frontal zones. That is all to say that, again, the forecast appears on track. Limited updates were made to the gridded forecast database, and updated products will be sent soon. Borchardt && .SHORT TERM... Issued at 300 PM CDT Tue Sep 19 2023 Through Wednesday night... * Showers decreasing in coverage this afternoon from west to east. * Additional scattered showers and storms possible late tonight into early WED AM. * Warmer on Wednesday with highs in the upper 70s to lower 80s. High-based showers continue early this afternoon across much of the area but have decreased in coverage. Small droplet sizes has aided in fairly decent albeit brief visibility drops to as low as 1-2 miles. These showers will continue to decrease in coverage as the back edge shifts from west to east. There are a few convective looking elements that could try to throw out a stray lightning strike or two, but overall the lightning threat continues to look low. Areas where rain and overcast skies have persisted for much of the day have been slow to warm up, with temperatures still in the upper 60s to lower 60s, generally along and north of I-80. Locales well south of I-80 toward central Illinois have seen less cloud cover and reside on the warm side of the warm front, having warmed into the lower 80s. Confidence in the precipitation forecast is on the lower side for late tonight into early Wednesday morning. This will ultimately be determined by the placement of a narrow 800-700mb moisture layer coincident with better lapse rates. If this layer can saturate sufficiently, the steeper mid-level lapse rates would result in sufficient instability for lightning. Initial thoughts are that the better potential exists west of the Chicago metro and then extending into the northern suburbs. Hi-res guidance has not had the best track record on some of these more subtle warm advective-type storms of late and continue to bounce around in location quite a bit from run to run. For now opted to lean on the 15Z RAP and have 20-30% chances for showers and thunderstorms generally along and north of I-80 after midnight through daybreak Wednesday, but in reality it could end up anywhere in the local area. Heading into the daytime hours on Wednesday, any lingering showers and storms should decrease in coverage and/or lift into Wisconsin during the morning hours with the afternoon expected to be dry. Temperatures will be notably warmer than seen for much of the area today with highs in the upper 70s to lower 80s. Petr && .LONG TERM... Issued at 315 PM CDT Tue Sep 19 2023 Thursday through Tuesday... Key Forecast Message: * Periodic shower and thunderstorm chances through the long term, with low confidence in the day to day specifics A rather messy and complex synoptic-scale weather pattern featuring many moving parts and pieces awaits us in the long term forecast period, which reduces confidence in the details. Big picture-wise, an active southern stream jet will remain in place over the southwestern CONUS and into the southern/central Plains through Saturday and will be responsible for multiple consecutive days of convection and potential severe weather across the central/southern Plains states. Thursday into Friday, a deep northern stream trough will be carved out over the Intermountain West and will interact with the active southern stream jet, while a Rex block sets up over the eastern half of the CONUS, placing our region under modest ridging. The western trough should then eject into the northern/central Plains over the weekend, where it could then potentially meander around for at least a couple of days as a closed-off upper-level low. Of initial interest to our area locally will be how tonight`s central/southern Plains severe weather episode evolves as guidance has slowly started to show more support for a solution that involves an MCV coming out of the Plains convection and slowly lifting northeastward across Missouri on Wednesday before potentially reaching our area at some point on Thursday. The 12z model guidance all in all better resolved this feature, with a slower northward progression roughly along the mid-Mississippi Valley. This entails a primarily if not completely dry Thursday morning for the area, with possible exception of the far west/southwest CWA. During Thursday afternoon, our PoPs officially creep up to chance in the southwest third of the CWA and slight chance for the remainder of our Illinois zones. Note, however, that some of the 12z guidance, the operational ECMWF in particular, slowed the progression of the MCV enough to keep the afternoon mainly dry as well. It appears there will be enough cloud cover, especially with westward extent, to keep high temps a bit cooler than had been expected, though away from the lake in far northern and northeast Illinois, and northwest Indiana upper 70s to low 80s still are plausible, with mid-upper 70s farther west, unless thicker clouds and showers overspread that area more quickly than currently expected. Confidence is relatively higher in at least scattered slow moving showers and isolated to widely scattered thunderstorms spreading northeastward across the western or northwestern half or so of the CWA Thursday evening into Friday morning. The overall highest PoPs in the latest official forecast are in the mid to high chance range Thursday evening and overnight. If the favored corridor from the 12z guidance does come to fruition, we`ll need to bump up these PoPs for the west or northwest half of the CWA. With sub- marginal deep layer shear, but above to well above normal PWATs for late September, the main concern will be instances of localized heavy downpours and road ponding. How quickly the shower activity dissipates on Friday will undoubtedly play a role in how warm the temperatures get, and currently inland portions of Chicago and near and southeast of I-55 elsewhere have the highest chance to reach the lower 80s. The latest signs are pointing toward a possible lull later Friday and into or through Saturday, when PoPs are at a relative minima. Should this come to pass, then the main story Saturday will be the warm and fairly humid conditions for this time of year. While there is still unsurprisingly a considerable amount of spread in guidance regarding the exact evolution of the western CONUS trough into next week, there is at least a reasonable amount of agreement that it will progress eastward into the central/northern Plains this weekend and potentially stumble into the Upper Midwest at some point thereafter. The cyclonic flow around it will serve to advect moisture northward into the Midwest and maintain an active weather pattern in the region for multiple days at some point over the second half of this weekend and into next week. The latest NBM actually has slight chance to chance PoPs in our forecast area every day through Tuesday, though whether those daily precipitation chances will actually materialize will depend upon finer scale details pertaining to the evolution of the upper- level trough/low that just can`t be resolved this far out with much confidence. Given the propensity of closed off upper lows to move more slowly in reality than modeled at this lead time (and a bit of a slower trend in the most recent model suite), it wouldn`t be surprising if higher precip. coverage holds off until early to mid next week. Ogorek/Castro && .AVIATION... For the 00Z TAFs... Main Concerns: * Scattered VFR -SHRA lingering into mid evening * Chance of SHRA and TS across northern Illinois late tonight into early Wednesday, mainly expected east of RFD Showers this evening have persisted far longer than expected, but still are expected to dissipate within the hour, so we elected to keep them out of the initial TAF group. Once they do eventually exit, another round of VFR showers and isolated thunderstorms is possible overnight into the early morning period. These would be supported by a developing low level jet but may persist even after the jet begins to dissipate. At all but the RFD area, light southeast winds are expected to turn SSW around the time that the overnight showers would be developing, and then remain from this direction for most of Wednesday. Lenning && .LOT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... IL...None. IN...None. LM...None. && $$ Visit us at weather.gov/chicago Follow us on Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube at: www.facebook.com/NWSChicago www.twitter.com/NWSChicago www.youtube.com/NWSChicago
Area Forecast Discussion
National Weather Service Marquette MI
826 PM EDT Tue Sep 19 2023 .SHORT TERM...(Through Tonight) Issued at 334 PM EDT TUE SEP 19 2023 Water vapor imagery and RAP analysis show troffing over western Canada and eastern Canada with ridging from northern Ontario nnw into the Arctic. The mid-level ridge does extend across the International Border, but flow transitions to wnw thru the central U.S. A shortwave moving ese thru southern WI is aiding shra and a few tsra in far se WI into northern IL/IN. To the w, very steep mid- level rates of 8-9C/km are resulting in a little cape for parcels lifted from above 10kft. Result has been sct sprinkles from high based ac clouds across portions of northern MN. Closer to home, marine layer moisture advecting off of Lake MI combined with daytime heating has led to considerable cu/stratocu development across central Upper MI today. Temps currently in the mid 60s to lwr 70s F across the fcst area are not likely to rise much more, if any, for the rest of the aftn. The steep mid-level lapse rates to the w do spread e over the fcst area during the night, but are fcst to be not quite as steep in the 7.5-8C/km range. Nonetheless, this may continue to support some sct sprinkles spreading into Upper MI, but likely nothing more given the dry subcloud deck down to around 4-5kft. Meanwhile, continued se upslope flow of higher dwpt air off of Lake MI into a cooling central Upper MI should result in a transition of cu/stratocu into developing low stratus and some fog. At this point, don`t expect dense fog since there won`t be good radiational cooling to make the difference btwn land temps and the higher dwpt marine layer air much more substantial. Although not included in fcst, it`s possible the moisture depth may become sufficient for some patchy drizzle where upsloping is maximized. Expect min temps in the mid 40s to mid 50s F, coolest interior e. .LONG TERM...(Wednesday through Tuesday) Issued at 332 PM EDT TUE SEP 19 2023 Key Messages: -Warming trend continues through work week -Trajectory of western US trough will determine rain chances late this week and into the weekend -Warmer and more dry than normal weather expected next week Quasi-zonal mid/upper level flow across the northern tier of the CONUS will become considerably more amplified by mid to late week as a ridge building into the Gulf of Alaska will force troughing into the Pacific coastal mountain region, which in turn will force ridging to build into the Upper Midwest/Upper Great Lakes by the middle/end of the week. The western US low will eventually shift eastward by the end of the week into next weekend, possibly interacting with or becoming captured by troughing over the southern Canadian Prairies. It is this latter interaction that will have the biggest implications for sensible weather locally, as considerable poleward moisture transport is likely to occur in a narrow corridor to the east of the low center. Whether the forcing and moisture overlap over the UP to bring bouts of rainfall or whether it stays to the west remains to be seen. Significant warm advection with southerly flow at 850mb should lead to a substantial warming trend beginning Wednesday and continuing through late week. 850mb temps rising into the upper teens (C) late Wednesday into the weekend represent values in the 90th to 97.5th percentile of the NAEFS climatology. Some CAMs bring some weak rain solutions to portions of the UP for Wednesday, but agreement is minimal and the forcing is a tug of war between the positive vorticity advection impulse shortwaves riding the longwave ridging and the negative vorticity advection from the aforementioned ridging aloft. Electing to go with a dry solution, but CAMs will bear continued monitoring for any increasing agreement in precipitation, perhaps remnant precipitation from a more prominent ridge-riding shortwave going through the Upper Plains. Precip chances rise Thursday as a more prominent shortwave not associated with the main longwave trough over the western US rides southwesterly flow towards the Great Lakes basin. The shortwave will be weakening as it arrives in the region, though global deterministic solutions disagree to what extent the deamplification occurs. Will keep PoPs somewhat lower at this time, but some slight chance (15-25%) PoPs are not unreasonable if the shortwave can maintain enough strength as it arrives in the area. Slight chance/chance PoPs (20-40%) return to the forecast Friday night through the weekend as the longer-wave trough interacts with troughing over the Canadian Prairie and allows deeper Gulf moisture to be drawn north toward the Upper Great Lakes. Relatively better chances (30-40 pct) will be the further west one goes. With lowering surface pressures to the west, flow will become southeasterly to easterly and could get fairly breezy by the weekend, with 25 mph gusts possible. The decreasing southerly component to the low-level winds and likely increased cloud cover will lead to a downward trend in the temps by the weekend, although highs will still likely be a bit above normal, and lows will also probably be above normal due to the clouds and winds. Expect chance PoPs to linger into early next week as the Plains trough looks like it finally pushes east into the Upper Great Lakes. Ultimately, large spread exists in both the ensembles and deterministic output regarding the progression of surface features, so not much chance from the NBM is made in the extended and confidence remains low in the finer details of the forecast. Looking into the extended forecast period, by early next week, the GEFS shows anomalous 500mb heights in excess of 30 dam over the Hudson Bay with +20 dam height anomaly expected to persist through the week. This will help contribute to higher than seasonal temperatures for the remainder of the month and the ridge will likely act to to suppress precipitation to below normal. && .AVIATION...(For the 00Z TAFS through 00Z Wednesday evening) Issued at 824 PM EDT TUE SEP 19 2023 VFR conditions will hold at IWD and CMX through the entire TAF period. Expect low stratus to develop this evening with upsloping southeasterly winds bringing in cooler dewpoint temps off Lake Michigan into the cooler interior areas of Upper Michigan. This low status will bring cigs at SAW down to LIFR tonight, gradually burning off through the late morning with VFR returning by tomorrow afternoon. && .MARINE...(For the 4 PM Lake Superior forecast issuance) Issued at 332 PM EDT TUE SEP 19 2023 Except for some southeasterly gusts near 25 kt between the Keweenaw and Isle Royale tonight, winds will remain below 20 kt through this week. Looking ahead to the weekend, southeast-east gusts of 25-30 kt may be possible depending on the track of a low pressure tracking out of the Plains, but it looks like winds should stay sub-gale. Some slight chances of thunder (15-25%) is possible Friday and over the weekend, but uncertainty is high. && .MQT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... Upper Michigan... None. Lake Superior... None. Lake Michigan... None. && $$ SHORT TERM...Rolfson LONG TERM...GS AVIATION...Jablonski MARINE...GS
Area Forecast Discussion
National Weather Service New York NY
1100 PM EDT Tue Sep 19 2023 .SYNOPSIS... High pressure builds into the region and remains in place through Friday before shifting offshore. As the high exits, low pressure developing over the Southeast may produce rain over the weekend. && .NEAR TERM /UNTIL 6 AM WEDNESDAY MORNING/... No changes for this update as the fcst is on track. A closed low H5 trough axis shifts east of the region with rising heights as ridging develops. As the the high builds closer to the area, clear skies and lighter winds have begun to allow for efficient radiative cooling conditions to take place as temps for outlying areas have fallen. Coastal and urban areas bottom out into the 50s, and the usual cooler spots well north and west of NYC and the Long Island Pine Barrens can expect temperatures in the 40s. && .SHORT TERM /6 AM WEDNESDAY MORNING THROUGH THURSDAY/... A tranquil and pleasant pattern persists mid to late week with surface high pressure gradually building in from the west. Aloft, an upper ridge amplifies over the Upper Great Lakes, with gradual height increases through the period. Abundant sunshine prevails both Wednesday and Thursday with temperatures topping out in the low to mid 70s once again. A light northwest flow on Wednesday veers northerly into Thursday as the surface high tracks closer. Largely followed a blend of NBM and HRRR data for this update. && .LONG TERM /THURSDAY NIGHT THROUGH TUESDAY/... A mid to upr 1020s high over the area Thu ngt translates offshore on Fri. Continued dry and cool Thu ngt, then ely component flow increases on Fri as low pres attempts to develop off the Carolina coast. Still dry on Fri but increasing clouds and winds increasing to around 10-20 mph by the end of the day, particularly at the coasts. Stayed close to the NBM for temps Thu ngt-Fri. The models are not in complete agreement with the exact track and timing of the Southeast low for the weekend, although the data suggests there will be a sys to track. Due to the model uncertainty, the blended approach per the NBM was followed over the weekend. If the low is far enough north per the GFS, Sat could be brisk and rainy. The ECMWF on the other hand suggests the area will be mainly dry with the sys too far south. It is possible that a stacked low remains behind the leading sys, only slowly passing thru the area on Sun providing another focus for rain, albeit less intense due to a lack of strong advection. Temps over the weekend will be tied to the rain. Drier solns should pan out warmer, and wetter solns colder. Only exception would be if parts of the are warm sector for a period of time. Based on all of this, a middle of the road approach was used, and the NBM was followed with local adjustments. The Mon-Tue evolution of the atmosphere remains highly uncertain with an upr lvl trof exiting the area. The models have trended dry, but based on the blended approach, have kept in low pops per the NBM with the upr lvls uncertain. With an upstream dry airmass to tap into, it is possible that fair early autumn wx sets up for the period. && .AVIATION /03Z WEDNESDAY THROUGH SUNDAY/... VFR through the period as high pressure builds over the terminals. The winds tonight will be out of the NW and mainly at 5 to 10 kt, with outlying terminals getting under 5 kt. The winds then back slightly to the WNW Wednesday and mainly settle in at 7-10kt. Coastal terminals may back a bit more to the WSW Wed afternoon. ....NY Metro (KEWR/KLGA/KJFK/KTEB) TAF Uncertainty... No amendments expected. OUTLOOK FOR 0Z THURSDAY THROUGH SUNDAY... Wednesday Night - Friday: VFR. Saturday and Sunday: MVFR or lower likely in rain. E gusts 15-25 kt, possibly higher at the coastal terminals. Strongest winds at this time look to be on Saturday. Detailed information, including hourly TAF wind component forecasts, can be found at: https:/www.weather.gov/zny/n90 && .MARINE... Southeast swells from distant Hurricane Nigel will begin to have less and less of an impact as time goes on. Therefore going forward, sub small craft conditions take place Wednesday through Thursday night. Winds and seas gradually increase thru the day on Fri, with a sca possible on the ocean by the end of the day. A sca appears likely for most if not all of the waters on Sat. There is a chance for gales, particularly ern waters and the ocean. A sca is possible again on Sun, then gradual improvement on Mon. && .HYDROLOGY... No hydrologic impacts are anticipated through Friday. Locally heavy rain will be possible over the weekend depending on the exact track, timing, and intensity of low pres off the coast. Hydrologic impacts will be possible if the hvy rain scenario develops. && .TIDES/COASTAL FLOODING... There is a moderate rip current risk Wed and Thu. && .OKX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... CT...None. NY...None. NJ...None. MARINE...None. && $$ SYNOPSIS...JMC/DR NEAR TERM... SHORT TERM...DR LONG TERM...JMC AVIATION...JE MARINE...JMC/DR HYDROLOGY...JMC/DR TIDES/COASTAL FLOODING...
Area Forecast Discussion
National Weather Service Shreveport LA
1013 PM CDT Tue Sep 19 2023 ...New UPDATE, SHORT TERM... .UPDATE... Issued at 954 PM CDT Tue Sep 19 2023 Expanded pops for I-30 counties this evening and down toward I-20 after midnight to include more NE TX, SW AR and LA overnight/Wed. && .SHORT TERM... (Tonight through Wednesday Night) Issued at 954 PM CDT Tue Sep 19 2023 Convective push in progress across NE TX and SE OK is about to edge into our NE TX counties with small elements of mostly middeck precip. There are some low clouds forming as well of SE OK. The HRRR is initializing fairly well and does now include more of our cwa`s real estate and we have updated with the latest in the NBM giving pops and weather to new areas overnight. Overall, we are more stable and dense air-wise with a continued decline in strength for now, but it does look as thought coverage will be increasing for us. Our sounding only had a PWAT of 0.84in and a modest little cap at about 7.5kft where winds veer from SW to W. Lots of mid level dry air to work through should any storms edge in overhead as well with DCAPE over 1300J/kg, so it is possible we could see a stout storm as moisture in the midlevels encroaches from the NW. Aloft we do continue with light W/NW flow up to 30kft then brisk winds are striping away the anvils. This is why the radar looks imposing quickly with anvil blow off wetting the mid levels. No other changes for now, and we will monitor overnight for additional changes in coverage and perhaps intensity. SPC has no meso discussion for this activity, but continue a Marginal Risk for our I-30 and General Risk from Cherokee to Caddo and Columbia through 7am. /24/ && .LONG TERM... (Thursday through next Monday) Issued at 246 PM CDT Tue Sep 19 2023 As we begin the long term on Thu, upper ridging will be anchored across S TX into Central TX as a deep longwave trough will be positioned from near the Great Lakes, south and east through the Ohio/Tenn Valleys into the Southeast U.S. Flow across our region will be mostly westerly to northwesterly as the downstream trough continues to move eastward into the Appalachians and the upper ridge to our southwest retrogrades westward into Old Mexico. South southwesterly low level flow will allow for the return of low level moisture into our region and disturbances in this upper flow will provide the necessary forcing for scattered convection across our northern third on Thu and more areawide by Friday. Our region appears to be in between disturbances aloft for Saturday and progs have been hinting at that the last few model runs. For this reason, have removed rain chances for the day Saturday but reintroduce pops in earnest Sat Night across our NW half and areawide on Sunday as the upper flow across the Southern Plains/Lower Miss Valley becomes difluent in advance of a deep closed low across the Central Plains. If we can continue to see some consistency in the medium range progs with this kind of upper level pattern, it would promise descent rain chances Sunday through at least Monday of next week before our next frontal boundary arrives sometime late Monday into Tuesday of next week. Too early to determine if these periods of thunderstorm chances either by late weekend or early next week will support a threat for severe weather but dewpoints and daytime heating would support at least a marginal wind and/or hail threat across our region during this timeframe. /13/ && .AVIATION... (00Z TAFS) Issued at 640 PM CDT Tue Sep 19 2023 For the ArkLaTex terminals, VFR this cycle through the overnight and much of Wednesday. We may see some convection nudge down the I-49 corridor of SW AR, possibly into KTXK/KELD by 21Z and may some showers close to KSHV Wed late aftn. We will see another set up for a nocturnal push late Thursday and early Friday as a weak frontal boundary sinks into NE TX. SFC winds on Wed SE/S 5-10KT w/ gusts to 15-20KT. Light N/NW flow aloft will drive any cells from N/NW to S/SE generally so thru the wknd until fropa. /24/ && .PRELIMINARY POINT TEMPS/POPS... SHV 69 94 71 95 / 10 10 10 10 MLU 64 92 67 93 / 0 10 0 10 DEQ 64 86 66 88 / 50 60 30 40 TXK 67 89 68 90 / 20 40 20 20 ELD 64 86 66 88 / 10 20 10 10 TYR 72 94 74 95 / 20 20 10 10 GGG 69 93 70 93 / 20 20 10 10 LFK 68 94 71 95 / 0 10 0 10 && .SHV WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... AR...None. LA...None. OK...None. TX...None. && $$ SHORT TERM...24 LONG TERM....13 AVIATION...24
Area Forecast Discussion...UPDATED
National Weather Service San Angelo TX
657 PM CDT Tue Sep 19 2023 ...New AVIATION... .SHORT TERM... (This evening through Wednesday) Issued at 227 PM CDT Tue Sep 19 2023 The main concern will be the chance for strong to severe thunderstorms late this afternoon and evening for areas north of a San Angelo to Brownwood line. Latest CAMs continue to show a few thunderstorms developing from the Concho Valley north into the Big Country late this afternoon, with the HRRR the most aggressive. The airmass across the area this afternoon will continue to destabilize, with CAPEs near 2000 J/kg and deep layer shear between 40 and 50 knots. While the better forcing will remain north into Oklahoma, isolated to widely scattered convection is possible east of the dryline from the Big Country south into portions of the Concho Valley after 5 PM, with large to possibly very large hail and damaging winds the main threats. However, an isolated tornado cannot be ruled out, primarily for storms that develop farther north into the Big Country. Storms that do develop are expected to diminish or move east of the area by mid to late evening, with dry conditions prevailing overnight into Wednesday. Unfortunately Wednesday still looks to be the hottest day of the week, with the ridge axis overhead. Highs Wednesday afternoon will be mainly in the upper 90s, although a few locations are expected to reach 100 degrees across western portions of the Big Country and Concho Valley. Lows tonight will be in the upper 60s and lower 70s. && .LONG TERM... (Wednesday night through next Tuesday) Issued at 135 PM CDT Tue Sep 19 2023 Showers and thunderstorm chances return Thursday across the Big Country and Concho Valley, as weak upper disturbances move across the region. Temperatures will not be as hot, with highs in the lower to mid 90s. Temperatures Friday into Saturday do warm back into the mid and upper 90s. Unfortunately the weak cold front previously indicated Saturday night and Sunday does not appear to make it into the region, so warmer high temperatures in the lower 90s are expected Sunday. Isolated showers and thunderstorms still possible, however, with weak upper disturbances continuing over the region into next week. Confidence is not high with the rainfall, however, as upper ridging also builds in. && .AVIATION... (00Z TAFS) Issued at 654 PM CDT Tue Sep 19 2023 With a few thunderstorms developing east and southeast into the Big Country this evening, continuing with a VCTS mention at KABI from 0030Z to 0230Z. Will monitor radar trends and update if it looks like any storms may have a direct impact. Farther to the south and west, a few storms developed over the Permian Basin but have dissipated. At this point, not expecting any storms to make a close approach to San Angelo. Generally clear skies and VFR conditions are expected overnight and during the day Wednesday. Gusty south winds will continue at KABI through the period, with gusts 20-25 knots. Gusts of 18-21 knots are expected at KSJT. For our southern terminals, south winds will be 7-10 knots tonight, followed by increased wind speeds and gusts by mid-morning Wednesday into the afternoon. && .PRELIMINARY POINT TEMPS/POPS... Abilene 72 98 74 92 / 30 10 10 40 San Angelo 72 99 73 95 / 10 0 0 20 Junction 68 98 69 96 / 0 0 0 10 Brownwood 69 96 71 93 / 10 10 0 10 Sweetwater 72 99 75 91 / 10 10 10 40 Ozona 69 96 71 93 / 0 0 0 10 Brady 70 96 71 93 / 10 10 0 10 && .SJT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... None. && $$ SHORT TERM...24 LONG TERM....04 AVIATION...19
Area Forecast Discussion
National Weather Service Topeka KS
555 PM CDT Tue Sep 19 2023 ...AVIATION UPDATE... .DISCUSSION... Issued at 230 PM CDT Tue Sep 19 2023 Key Points: - Unsettled pattern continues through the weekend with near average temperatures. - Potential for severe storms Thursday night through Saturday, but details still uncertain. Looking at the large scale pattern, broad zonal flow remains in place across much of the CONUS. Regionally, water vapor imagery shows a well-defined shortwave trough over southwest Kansas. WAA ahead of this feature has resulted in scattered showers and thunderstorms across eastern Kansas. Most of these storms have remained weak given below 1000 J/kg of MU CAPE and 20 kts of shear, though a few have briefly produced small hail. The cloud cover is helping to keep temperatures in the 70s, with 80s farther west where skies are mostly clear. As the shortwave progresses across southern Kansas this PM, expecting scattered showers/storms to persist while remaining weak in intensity. The shortwave will gradually lift northeast tonight and tomorrow, with just a small chance for additional showers across far eastern Kansas. Flow aloft becomes more southwesterly by Thursday as a large upper low establishes itself across the western CONUS. Ahead of the main upper low, several weaker shortwaves will lift through the central Plains Thursday night and Friday night. Each of these will result in thunderstorm development, though the exact location will depend on the position of the dryline to the west and the warm front somewhere near or north of the area. The main upper low looks to approach sometime Saturday, with an associated surface low and cold front pushing eastward. The overall synoptic pattern still looks favorable for severe weather somewhere in the central Plains, given the strong upper trough, good moisture advection, and steep mid-level lapse rates. However there is still a fair amount of spread in the exact speed and track of the main upper low, partially tied to the development of a cutoff low over the southeast coast. So we will need to resolve this track uncertainty some before we get a more precise idea of the what/where/when of any eventual severe weather. The upper low will move east of the area by early next week, resulting in more of a quiet pattern, with temperatures remaining near or slightly below average. && .AVIATION...(For the 00Z TAFS through 00Z Thursday) Issued at 548 PM CDT Tue Sep 19 2023 Shortwave appears to be propagating east of the terminals per the 2230Z water vapor and radar data. There may be an isolated -SHRA over the next hour or so, but the bigger impact to the terminals will be stratus advecting in from the south overnight. There is good consensus among the models and forecast soundings are bringing it in between 700 and 1000 feet. So will go with IFR CIGS. Timing is a little tricky as the 21Z RAP has sped up the moisture advection and arrival of the stratus. Will trend sooner with the low clouds but use a compromise of the RAP and NAM until it becomes more obvious. Forecast soundings suggest BKN CIGS around 3KFT could hold on for TOP and FOE through the afternoon && .TOP WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... NONE. && $$ DISCUSSION...Reese AVIATION...Wolters