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Area Forecast Discussion...UPDATED
National Weather Service Brownsville TX
631 PM CDT Sat May 9 2020 .DISCUSSION...Updated for latest aviation discussion below. && .AVIATION...VFR conditions are expected to generally prevail through the TAF period with perhaps brief reductions to MVFR ceilings tonight, especially at BRO. Shower and thunderstorm chances have decreased but elected to keep the mention of a vicinity shower through the overnight at BRO and HRL. Rain shower and/or thunderstorm may be possible Sunday afternoon but will leave out of TAF for now due to lower confidence. Anticipate light to moderate north-northeasterly winds with directions then becoming more easterly throughout Sunday. && .PREV DISCUSSION... /issued 418 PM CDT Sat May 9 2020/ UPDATE...Elected to drop the Flash Flood Watch for the rest of the afternoon as the concern for the potential of flooding has diminished. Additionally, have lowered the pops down to isolated to generally scattered levels into tomorrow with short term model guidance indicating less QPF signal. This is from the result of the stabilization of the atmosphere in wake of the Mesoscale convective vortex (MCV) last night with the RAP SPC Mesoanalysis showing modest instability across portions of the lower to mid- valley as confirmed in this afternoon`s 18Z BRO sounding. Latest model guidance also indicates a tongue of some drier air filtering into the western/northern portions of Deep South Texas as well into Sunday. Aviation...Adjusted TAFs for lower potential for showers and thunderstorm activity. VFR to MVFR conditions generally prevail through the TAF period with vicinity shower activity and light to moderate east-northeasterly winds. Brady/62 PREV DISCUSSION... /issued 252 PM CDT Sat May 9 2020/ SHORT TERM (Now through Sunday Night): Surface low pressure continues to spin off the lower Texas coast, with showers and thunderstorms across the adjacent offshore Gulf of Mexico waters. A couple of weak spokes of mid-level energy swing across Deep South Texas into this afternoon and again this evening into tonight, and may be the next best chance of rain development across the coastal counties, although so far, it has been very quiet. The morning sounding at BRO showed MUCAPE values topping 1200 J/kg, with PWAT values at 1.75 inches, but a very stable atmosphere at the surface. We decided to release a special 18Z sounding to get a newer peek at the strength of the cap and give the models some new data. The 18Z run came in with CAPE under 1000, no cap to speak of, PWAT values at 1.65 inches. Somewhat stable or conditionally stable low level, but anything that does develop could efficiently produce rainfall. We decided to leave the Flash Flood Watch in effect until 7 PM to continue the messaging, especially for at risk areas that received more than 3-5 inches last night. Have added a Coastal Flood Statement due to elevated surf and stronger northeasterly winds creating narrow beaches and potentially pushing South Bay water across portions of HWY 4 west of Boca Chica Village. High tide was early this morning and low tide occurs near 11 PM. Webcams were showing decent beach runup and wet sand near the dunes. Temperatures gradually warm through Sunday with southeasterly winds returning as high pressure builds across the Gulf of Mexico. Models continue to show the chance of rain returning inland for Sunday afternoon and early evening. The next vort at 500mb swings by just south of the border into Sunday afternoon, keeping the best rain chances along the RGV, with PWAT values rising back toward 1.6-1.8 inches, and slightly drier air aloft. LONG TERM (Monday through Saturday): As broad high pressure slowly moves off to the east and claims the eastern CONUS through the workweek, southeasterly winds will persist across Deep South Texas and the RGV through the long term period. A couple of embedded short waves will be advected over Deep South Texas in the nearly zonal flow aloft throughout the week. The first short wave approaches on Monday and pushes northeastward on Tuesday, bringing rain chances Monday through Tuesday. The bulk of the divergence aloft associated with the short wave on Tuesday will be concentrated further north over south central Texas, so the greater rain/thunderstorm chances will be concentrated in that region, but have kept slight chance PoPs since the divergence aloft could be enough to trigger some convection over Deep South Texas and the RGV. There will be a warming trend throughout the long term period into the weekend. Monday`s highs will be in the 80s and each day the highs will increase slightly until the weekend when the highs are generally in the mid to upper 90s. The next best chance for rain will be Friday into the weekend as another short wave passes through. However, model solutions diverge late next week, so confidence is low on the timing of the PoPs, as well as on the temperatures for the weekend. For now, have trended toward the model blends which tend to favor the warmer ECM`s solution. MARINE: Now through Sunday Night...Coastal low pressure slowly works further east across the Gulf of Mexico as high pressure enters across the northern Gulf. Moderate to strong northeast winds have continued into the afternoon and are expected to begin to diminish into this evening, allowing seas to diminish into Sunday. Winds turn more southeasterly on Sunday as high pressure settles further south. Monday through Saturday...Southeast winds will persist through next week as a broad region of high pressure parks over the eastern Gulf. Winds will increase each afternoon and small craft will likely need to exercise caution for much of the week. Wave heights will start off on Monday around 2 to 4 feet and increase to 3 to 5 for the latter half of the week. There will be a slight chance for showers and thunderstorms Monday and Tuesday. && .BRO WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... TX...None. GM...Small Craft Advisory until midnight CDT tonight for GMZ150-155- 170-175. && $$ This product is also available on the web at: HTTP://WEATHER.GOV/RGV Aviation...Brady/62
Area Forecast Discussion
National Weather Service Grand Junction CO
535 PM MDT Sat May 9 2020 .SHORT TERM...(Tonight through Sunday night) Issued at 146 PM MDT Sat May 9 2020 Northwest flow aloft is keeping the weather quiet and pleasant. A few shortwaves embedded within this flow have clipped portions of northern Colorado ushering in cooler temperatures, so we are near normal again today. The bulk of the available moisture is east of the Divide so no precipitation is expected from these waves. In passing the winds have been enhanced by the slightly tighter pressure gradient, and deep mixing will allow gusty winds to reach the surface. Critical fire weather conditions have already started across the lower elevations of southwest Colorado, and expect that to continue through the evening. A weak sub-tropical wave located over the Baja will track to the north-northeast tonight. This wave will help advect moisture into the region for the next couple of days. By tomorrow the wave reaches Utah and begins to encounter the northwest flow aloft. This will cause the wave to progress eastward over the forecast area, and it also appears to cause the wave to slightly strengthen. The models still agree that the moisture might not make it into our area by peak heating tomorrow. There may be enough for isolated showers and storms mainly in the higher elevations, but those chances are low. Luckily fuels at those elevations are not critical yet. Although if a storm were to reach the valleys it could be concern for new fire starts. Something to pay attention to if convection materializes. The most likely zone for convective development will remain to our west and south in the afternoon, but that activity will drift into the area in the late afternoon and evening hours. The initial surge of moisture will be in the midlevels therefore bases are expected to be fairly high. As a result most of the precipitation will struggle to reach the ground and virga enhanced wind gusts will be possible. The latest NAM and HRRR show pockets of strong winds associated with these showers moving into our area, and that is supported by DCAPE upwards of 1000 J/kg evident in the soundings. Elevated fire danger is possible tomorrow afternoon as winds speeds get close to criteria. Localized red flag conditions can not be ruled out especially with gusty outflow or virga. During the overnight the wave tracks over the forecast area, and the associated forcing will allow showers and storms to increase in coverage. Instability should be on the decrease Sunday night, but there may be enough for a few storms embedded within the showers, especially in southeast Utah and southwest Colorado. .LONG TERM...(Monday through Saturday) Issued at 146 PM MDT Sat May 9 2020 Precipitable water values are on track to peak across the region late Monday morning/early afternoon as a midlevel shortwave impacts the area. Readings are expected to be between 0.55 to 0.70 inches...or 140 to 180% of the climatological normal for mid May. Bufkit soundings across west-central Colorado show the saturation of the mid and lower levels during this timeframe as a result. Isolated shower coverage will increase to become scattered to numerous throughout the day. The higher terrain along the Continental Divide will be favored for the best shower coverage and potential for wetting rains, due in part to the shortwave trough trekking right along that region on Monday. Isolated to scattered thunderstorms will also be possible throughout the day as MLCAPE nears 1000 J/kg. The convection potential will need to be monitored over the coming shifts, particularly since cloud cover Monday morning could inhibit instability. The shortwave will slide east into the Plains Monday evening with showers gradually tapering off from west to east. Synoptic flow over eastern Utah and western Colorado will become quasi-zonal Tuesday and Wednesday as an upper level low spins off the Pacific Northwest. This will result in generally dry conditions over the forecast area, though entrained moisture in the flow could see isolated orographic showers develop each afternoon. Temperatures will remain above normal with readings only fluctuating slightly each day. Early Thursday will see the Pacific low push inland with upper level flow becoming southwesterly over our region as a result. This feature will trek across the Northern Rockies on Friday, potentially brushing the northern tier of the forecast area Friday afternoon and evening. Extended models disagree on the progression and depth of this now open wave trough as we head into the weekend. Regardless, slightly cooler and unsettled conditions are becoming likely to end the long term period. && .AVIATION...(For the 00Z TAFS through 00Z Sunday evening) Issued at 518 PM MDT Sat May 9 2020 VFR will dominate at all terminals through the evening. Expect gusty winds in the south to diminish after 1z as solar heating and mixing cease. After a clear night, VFR will dominate at all terminals on Sunday. Isolated mountain showers could develop in the San Juans late in the evening. && .FIRE WEATHER... Issued at 146 PM MDT Sat May 9 2020 Dry weather will continue today as deep mixing and a passing system to our north bring some gusty winds to the surface this afternoon. Red Flag criteria will occur this afternoon thanks to those winds, dry conditions, and critical fuels. As such, Red Flag Warnings remain in effect across portions of southwest Colorado this afternoon and evening for zone 207 below 8000 feet and zone 295 below 9500 feet. Localized Red Flag conditions are possible tomorrow afternoon along with gusty outflow or virga from high-based showers mainly across southeast Utah and southwest Colorado. A few dry thunderstorms could reach the lower valleys in these areas. && .GJT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... CO...Red Flag Warning until 9 PM MDT this evening for COZ207-295. UT...None. && $$ SHORT TERM...KJS LONG TERM...MMS AVIATION...MAC FIRE WEATHER...TGJT
Area Forecast Discussion
National Weather Service Green Bay WI
1048 PM CDT Sat May 9 2020 Updated aviation portion for 06Z TAF issuance .SHORT TERM...Tonight and Sunday Issued at 245 PM CDT Sat May 9 2020 The latest RAP analysis and satellite/radar imagery show a tightly wound and compact shortwave moving southeast over the Dakotas early this afternoon. Mid-level clouds and light precip are already pushing into far western Wisconsin, but is moving into a very dry airmass with humidities in the 15 to 25 pct range at most locations away from Lake Michigan. Therefore think that some of this precip will dry up or remain virga as it moves into north- central WI later this afternoon. Looking further upstream, precip changes over to snow over north-central Minnesota and North Dakota. As this storm system moves across the region, snowfall accumulations is the main forecast concern. Tonight...The compact yet potent low pressure system will track across southern Wisconsin. The lead band of light precip will lead to moistening of the atmosphere at the start of the evening over north-central WI. As precip rates increase due to strengthening mid-level fgen on the nose of a 30-40 low level jet, precip will have greater chances of reaching the ground through the evening. The dry feed of air from northeast winds will lead to evaporative cooling and models show critical thickness collapsing (precip changing over to snow) by mid to late evening along and north of the Hwy 29 corridor from Wausau to Green Bay. In this corridor, forecast snow accumulations remain expected to be the highest, peaking in the 2-3 inch range, locally up to 4 inches in Lincoln, Langlade, and northern Marathon counties. Snow accumulations should trail off further east as the boundary layer will have a harder time cooling down. Some snow accumulations (up to an inch) will be possible south of Hwy 29 after midnight. After adjusting temps, precip amounts, and snow ratios, the forecast turned out pretty similar to the previous forecast so no adjustments will be made to the Winter Weather Advisory. Given the narrow nature of this band, however, wouldn`t be surprised if a thin ribbon of 4-5 inches of snow materialized. Pavement temps are forecast to remain above freezing tonight. But think some slippery and/or snow covered roads are possible where snowfall rates will be the highest. Lows ranging from the upper 20s to mid 30s. Sunday...Light snow will likely continue through the morning over parts of central to east-central Wisconsin. Additional amounts of a half inch to an inch look possible, though will have a tough time accumulating on roads due to the high sun angle. Most precip should end by late morning to early afternoon as the surface low tracks over southern Lake Michigan and southern Lower Michigan. Expected plenty of clouds to linger into the afternoon with gusty northeast to north winds make it a blustery and damp day. Highs ranging from the low to mid 40s. .LONG TERM...Sunday Night Through Saturday Issued at 245 PM CDT Sat May 9 2020 The forecast focus will remain on potential frost/freeze and fire weather concerns Monday and Tuesday, then a return to a milder and wetter pattern for the mid to late part of the week. A short-wave trough and surface low will be exiting to our east Sunday evening, leaving dry conditions over the forecast area. After a cloudy evening, expect to see clearing arrive from from northwest to southeast overnight into early Monday. The timing of the clearing will determine how cold we get, and where eventual frost/freeze headlines need to be issued. Right now, it appears the best chance of hard freeze will occur northwest of the Fox Valley/lakeshore areas. Skies will become sunny on Monday, with cool highs in the upper 40s to middle 50s. Deep mixing will allow dry air aloft to reach the surface, leading to very low dew points and relative humidity, especially in the sandy soil regions. A weak cold front is expected to move through the region Monday night, but skies will remain clear to partly cloudy. Another hard freeze looks like a good bet northwest of the Fox Valley/lakeshore areas Tuesday morning. Expect a slight moderation in temperatures on Tuesday, with highs in the 50s, and another day of very low relative humidity in the sandy soil regions. Dry conditions should persist through Tuesday night, but low temperatures should not be as cold due to WAA and increasing mid/high clouds late. Strong return flow is expected to develop Wednesday into Wednesday night, as the surface high shifts east and a 30-40 knot low-level jet develops. This will bring a swath of showers through the forecast area. A warm front will move into southern, or perhaps central WI by Thursday morning, followed by low pressure tracking E-NE along the boundary on Thursday and Thursday night. The track of this low will determine how far north additional precipitation gets, but the best bet for showers and a few thunderstorms should be over our southern or southeast counties. && .AVIATION...for 06Z TAF Issuance Issued at 1048 PM CDT Sat May 9 2020 VFR/MVFR ceilings are in place at most of the TAF sites to being the TAF period. The exception is under a band of light rain showers stretching across north-central WI, where ceilings have been lowering to MVFR. Rain showers will likely tranistion to to mainly snow late this evening and then continue through the night. Lowest visibility is expected across CWA/AUW, where the heaviest band of snow is expected to set up. Some light accumulations are possible in those area; however, pavement temperatures are expected to remain above freezing. This may still end up leading to slushy roads/runways overnight across central Wisconsin. Steadily improving conditions can be expected for the rest of the TAF period Sunday into Sunday evening. && .FIRE WEATHER... Issued at 245 PM CDT Sat May 9 2020 After a break on Sunday, elevated fire weather conditions are expected to return on Monday and Tuesday. Relative humidities should drop into the 15 to 25 percent range in the sandy soil regions both days, but winds should only be moderate from the west-northwest, with gusts to 15 to 20 mph. && .GRB WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... Winter Weather Advisory until 8 AM CDT Sunday for WIZ018>020-030- 031. && $$ SHORT TERM.....MPC LONG TERM......Kieckbusch AVIATION.......Cooley FIRE WEATHER...Kieckbusch
Area Forecast Discussion
National Weather Service Grand Rapids MI
839 PM EDT Sat May 9 2020 LATEST UPDATE... Update .SYNOPSIS... Issued at 315 PM EDT Sat May 9 2020 - Clipper with cold rain and snow Sunday - Another Freeze Monday night - Wet Pattern after Mid-week && .UPDATE... Issued at 840 PM EDT Sat May 9 2020 Overall our forecast looks fine. However, it seems to me we have a greater risk for convective shower between midnight and 3 am (or so) near I-96 (as far south as maybe Holland). I have noted from numerous runs of the RAP, HRRR and SREF (SPC) we have a 35 to 50 knot low level jet aimed at the Grand Haven to Muskegon area between midnight and 3 am. The moisture transport vectors are aimed at the same area too. While the instability is not all that great the sounding from the models are saturated from 5000 ft to 20000 ft in that area. The lapse rate from 850 to 500 mb is about 7.0C at that time. I believe we will see showers, some briefly heavy. This is shown by the all of the hi resolution models so I do believe that will more than overcome any dry layer between 5000 ft and the ground. It do not believe this will impact ares near and south of I-94 but it will impact from MKG to GRR. I increased the chance of rain during that time farther south. && .DISCUSSION...(This evening through next Saturday) Issued at 315 PM EDT Sat May 9 2020 - Clipper with cold rain and snow Sunday Looks like a dreary Mother`s Day with cold rain by the afternoon and some wet snow mixing in late in the afternoon and evening. CLouds and precip should hold temperatures down into the 40s across much of the forecast area. No impacts expected for travel as wet snow on the back side of the departing low should not be able to stick to paved surfaces even up north. Steep lapse rates and cold atmosphere means any updrafts could produce small hail tomorrow afternoon, with the best chance of that across southern zones where instability is greatest, although still marginal at best. - Another Freeze Monday night The next arctic surface high moves in on Monday and sets up a better radiational cooling night than last night, although the airmass isn`t quite as cold. We still should get down below freezing with lows in the upper 20s most places. The high hangs on for Tuesday night and frost and freezing temperatures are possible again Wednesday morning. - Wet Pattern after Mid-week The amplified pattern of a deep trough across the northeast CONUS through mid-week becomes more zonal with deep moisture return into the Ohio Valley and Great Lakes after Wednesday and into next weekend. There is heavy rain potential as surfaces waves move along a wavering frontal boundary. We could be dealing with an inch or more of rain across Lower Michigan late Wednesday into Friday with a second wave coming later in the weekend, but indications are that it may be further south across the Ohio Valley. && .AVIATION...(For the 00Z TAFS through 00Z Sunday evening) Issued at 731 PM EDT Sat May 9 2020 It will start out tonight rather quiet but it will not stay that way. A fairly vigorous developing storm system will spread precipitation, gusty winds,and low ceilings across the TAF sites by Sunday morning. The system warm front, aided by a 50 knot low level jet aimed at MKG by 06z, is likely to cause some showers for a few hours, but at that point ceiling should be around 5000 ft agl and I do not believe at this time the showers will be heavy enough to lower visibilities below 6 miles, but it is not out of the question that there could be a few minutes with a moderate to heavy rain shower at any of our TAF sites in the between 06z and 10z. The warm front will also lead to low level wind shear, winds could be as high as 50 knots between 3000 ft and 5000 ft agl in the 08z to 12z time frame. Most of the rain will be during the daylight hours of Sunday as the system moves through. instability increases in the I-69 area by 18z or so. Do not be surprised by thunderstorms with brief very heavy rain (IFR visibility briefly), small hail and gusty winds. There will be a period of MVFR/IFR cigs from late morning into the late afternoon as the system deepens while it is moving through the area. The heavier and more persistent precipitation will be just north of I-96. It would not be out of the question for the precipitation to change to snow before it ends just north of MKG. It will turn rather windy by late afternoon, once the cold air comes in behind the cold front trailing the system. Skies should clear by 06z or so. && .MARINE... Issued at 315 PM EDT Sat May 9 2020 The Small Craft Advisory will be dropped soon as winds and waves are decreasing this afternoon. We have issued a Gale Watch for south of Whitehall Sunday afternoon into Monday as we expect strong north flow developing with gusts to 35 knots on the back side of the clipper coming though tomorrow. A Coastal Flood Advisory is also issued for this stretch of coast. && .GRR WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... MI...Lakeshore Flood Advisory from 2 PM Sunday to 2 PM EDT Monday for MIZ050-056-064-071. LM...Gale Watch from Sunday afternoon through late Sunday night for LMZ844>847. && $$ UPDATE...WDM SYNOPSIS...Ostuno DISCUSSION...Ostuno AVIATION...WDM MARINE...Ostuno
Area Forecast Discussion...UPDATED
National Weather Service Twin Cities/Chanhassen MN
742 PM CDT Sat May 9 2020 .UPDATE... Issued at 651 PM CDT Sat May 9 2020 Updated for 00z aviation discussion below. && .SHORT TERM...(This evening through Sunday night) Issued at 238 PM CDT Sat May 9 2020 Water vapor imagery this afternoon shows a compact and fairly intense shortwave trough dropping southeast through the eastern Dakotas. RAP PV analysis shows the anomaly down around 500 mb with this feature, which is definitely helping to cool and saturate the column while promoting a strong band of upper-level divergence and frontogenesis. The system is moving quickly, and will bring precipitation across the area for roughly a 6 hour window from late afternoon into the early part of the overnight hours. The best chance for precipitation to change to snow and accumulate still looks to be north of I-94 where an inch or two is still possible (the Twin Cities metro area will likely see little if any accumulation). We could have a few rain/snow showers around on Sunday with some lingering cyclonic flow and decent lapse rate, but at this point decided to leave them out with no real consensus on location (and didn`t want to blanket the entire area with 20 PoPs). Cold advection will persist into Sunday night, keeping clouds around for a while, although we should see enough subsidence by late Sunday night to clear things out from northwest to southeast. .LONG TERM...(Monday through Saturday) Issued at 238 PM CDT Sat May 9 2020 The large scale pattern looks to quickly de-amplify during the first part of the week, with things becoming zonal and looking to stay that way through the balance of the week. That will result in moderating temperatures with much warmer (near to a bit above normal) weather by the middle to latter half of the week. With the steering flow becoming zonal, we`ll see a few quick moving shortwaves ripple through the flow and bring some chances for precipitation. Unfortunately, as is typically the case in such a pattern, there is some disagreement in the model guidance on the timing of things, which increases farther out into the forecast period. So, the consensus forecast will include longer periods of lower PoPs than what reality will eventually bring, but we should be able to refine the precipitation chances into smaller windows of time as things get closer. High pressure will keep things dry Monday and Tuesday, with low RHs each day causing some fire weather concerns again, although wind speeds should be a limited factor. Return flow accompanied by decent moisture return looks to bring a good chance for showers across the area Wednesday. After that we`ll have several weak shortwaves move east through the zonal flow bringing periodic shower chances, along with some possibility of thunder as instability works its way back into the region. However, at this point no significant systems are expected through the period. && .AVIATION...(For the 00Z TAFS through 00Z Sunday evening) Issued at 651 PM CDT Sat May 9 2020 MVFR ceilings into tomorrow for all sites except AXN which should go VFR later this evening. There will be a break in the rain this evening before the wrap around moisture moves in and light rain, possibly with some snow mixed in at times, will spread back in by midnight. Ceilings at EAU may go IFR for a couple of hours around 01z, before rising back to MVFR again. All terminals go VFR by daybreak. The precipitation will end from north to south overnight. Winds NNE at 10 kts at the start of the period for AXN, RWF, STC and MKT will quickly back to NNW with gusts up to 20-30 kts. MSP, RNH and EAU will hold onto the NNE winds for a few hours longer. Tomorrow ceilings will be between 3000 and 6000 feet with overcast or broken skies. KMSP...MVFR conditions to start the period will continue until around 08z when the ceilings rise to VFR. There will be a break in the rain this evening, but there may be some drizzle. The wrap around precipitation will move back over the terminal from 04Z to 08Z. There could be some snow mixed in but left out of TAF as it won`t be impactful. Broken or overcast skies will persist through the day with ceilings between 3000 and 6000 feet. Winds will be NE around 10 kts to start then quickly back to NNW with gusts up to 23 KTS this evening. After midnight the wind becomes more NW around 12 kts through the morning before rising to 15 kts with gusts up to 25 kts afternoon. Tomorrow evening the clouds will scatter out. /OUTLOOK FOR KMSP/ MON...VFR. Wind NW 5-10 kts TUE...VFR. Wind NW 5 kts. Wed...VFR. Chance of -RA. Wind SE 5-10 kts. && .MPX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... WI...None. MN...None. && $$ UPDATE...CEO SHORT TERM... LONG TERM... AVIATION...CEO
Area Forecast Discussion
National Weather Service San Diego CA
349 PM PDT Sat May 9 2020 .SYNOPSIS... A weak disturbance will bring isolated showers over San Diego County coast and valleys and isolated thunderstorms over the mountains, through this evening. Otherwise, cooler weather and a stronger marine layer presence into early next week, with strong westerly winds over the mountains and deserts and more persistent cloud cover west of the mountains. It will be warmer again by next weekend. && .QUICK UPDATE... Isolated showers are occurring over San Diego County (coast/valleys/mountains) and have updated the forecast to reflect this. Also, isolated thunderstorms still possible through 10 pm over the mountains. Looking ahead to tomorrow afternoon/evening, the HRRR is showing potential for convection over the mountains again, so we may need to add low pops then, although other indications are that there will be too much flow aloft and not enough instability/forcing. Will take another look at that later this evening. No other changes at this time. Previous discussion remains in place below. && .DISCUSSION...FOR EXTREME SOUTHWESTERN CALIFORNIA INCLUDING ORANGE... SAN DIEGO...WESTERN RIVERSIDE AND SOUTHWESTERN SAN BERNARDINO COUNTIES... A few showers were occurring, mainly near Pt. Loma, and areas of coastal stratus continued early this afternoon. The cooling trend was continuing, including in the desert where Palm Springs was "only" 100 at 1 PM, and beach locations were still in the mid to upper 60s. A few thunderstorms had developed in northern Baja California, mainly over the mountains, and there is a small chance that one of these thunderstorms could stray north of the border. Most areas that receive any precipitation will just have brief light rain as a strong dry layer between around 850 MB separated the moisture aloft around 600 MB and the marine layer. The strong ridge from earlier this week is flattening as low pressure expands off the West Coast today. The trough will prevail most of next week, though it will not be particularly strong at any one point. This will result in cooler weather, especially west of the mountains with the deeper marine layer, and the MSLP gradients and stronger thermal gradients between the valleys and the deserts will result in gusty winds at times in the mountains and deserts. The marine layer will be deep enough that some light drizzle or even light showers could occur at times from the mountain slopes west to the coast, with around Wednesday being the most likely as a shortwave could interact with the marine layer moisture. If any measurable precipitation occurs, it would be just a few hundredths of an inch, as nearly all GEFS and ECMWF ensemble members show. With the cooler air mass in place, temperatures will be 5-10 deg F below normal by Tue/Wed. Some model/ensemble solutions show the trough shifting east of the area by next weekend with some ridging over California, and with that solution, some warming will return around next Fri/Sat. && .AVIATION... 092030Z...Coast/Valleys...Low clouds with bases 1200-1500 FT MSL and tops to 2000 ft MSL will continue to impact the coast this afternoon. BKN-OVC cigs likely vcnty KSAN and KCRQ, moving into KSNA between 00Z and 04Z Sun. Bases and tops will likely lift overnight as the clouds spread inland, possibly reaching KONT by 10Z and KSBD by 12Z Sun. Vis will be mostly unrestricted except where clouds and terrain intersect, obscuring higher terrain. Inland clearing expected 16Z-17Z Sun and partial clearing at the coast 17Z-20Z. Mountains/Deserts...A few high clouds at/above 20,000 ft MSL through the period, with unrestricted visibility. There is a slight chance of an isolated thunderstorm this afternoon/evening, primarily for San Diego and Riverside County Mountains, though confidence is low. && .MARINE... Onshore flow will strengthen from Wednesday onward, when gusts may approach 20 kts in the outer waters. Otherwise, no hazardous marine conditions are expected through Wednesday. && .BEACHES... An increasing south-southwest swell from 200 degrees, with a period of 16 to 18 seconds, will generate elevated surf at area beaches beginning Sunday. Surf will be highest on south and southwest-facing beaches, especially in Orange County where sets to 6 FT will be likely. Rip current risk will be high. && .SKYWARN... Skywarn activation is not requested. However weather spotters are encouraged to report significant weather conditions. && .SGX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... CA...NONE. PZ...NONE. && $$ QUICK UPDATE...Brotherton PUBLIC...Maxwell AVIATION/MARINE/BEACHES...PG