Forecast Discussions mentioning any of "HRRR" "RAP" "RUC13" "RUC" "RR" received at GSD on 11/24/19


Area Forecast Discussion
National Weather Service Binghamton NY
1024 PM EST Sat Nov 23 2019 .SYNOPSIS... A system moves in from the southwest and brings rain and a wintry mix to the area overnight into Sunday morning. That system will rapidly intensify off the coast Sunday and could bring a period of heavy snow to the Catskills. High pressure returns with dry weather and a gradual warming trend Sunday night through Tuesday. Next storm system arrives midweek, with periods of rain and wind, then colder temperatures behind it. && .NEAR TERM /THROUGH SUNDAY NIGHT/... Concern increases that a mesoscale snowband could set up on the west side of the developing mid level cyclone from 12z-15z Sunday as far west as Oneida county south to Broome Co and even down into Luzerne County of PA. Both the 00z NAM, NAMnest and the 02z HRRR are now showing a 700 mb low tracking across southern PA to NJ with a band of frontogentical forcing across these areas. The band would be transient but could lead to quick advisory amounts from Oneida Co down to Broome and Wyoming/Luzerne/Lackawanna Counties and into the Poconos. Warning criteria snows are going to be possible in Delaware/Otsego and northern Sullivan counties if the latest HRRR and NAM are true. It is going to be close as thermal profiles are marginal so at this juncture not enough data or observational evidence to make wholesale changes. We need to see more model runs, WPCs guidance and what the other WFOs come up with before jumping. Briefed mid shift on possibilities. For now still going with winter weather advisory much of northeast PA to Delaware and Otsego, Sullivan counties in NY. I am forecasting less than one inch in the valleys of northeast PA with 1-3" over the higher terrain. We also expect up to .1 inches of ice in the Poconos. Farther north, going with 3"-6" over Delaware and Otsego counties and just very light icing. Rest of area will see mainly rain overnight with patchy freezing rain over the higher terrain so issued an SPS to cover. Previous Discussion... ***Wintry mix and snow late tonight through Sunday*** A complex winter storm will start to impact the region later tonight through Sunday. Precipitation will start as a wintry mix across NE PA with freezing rain most likely across higher elevations of the Poconos. However, WAA advection aloft should change things over to plain rain for a period overnight, but expecting cooling after 700 mb low passes the area early tomorrow morning and a transition to eventually all snow is expected. Upper level low tracks across the Ohio Valley late tonight with a weak surface low initially tracking up the Ohio River Valley. However, that low will reemerge off of Delmarva and rapidly intensify tomorrow morning south of Long Island and head east/northeast along the New England Coast through the day Sunday. Although there is no real cold air already in place anywhere in the region, as this system intensifies, dynamic cooling will occur. Models indicate strong frontogenesis developing and aligning south to north across our eastern forecast area. Forecast Bufkit soundings indicate a period tomorrow morning with strong omega through a saturated dendritic growth zone from Monticello on north to Oneonta. Thinking is that a band of heavy snow with snowfall rates greater than 1 inch per hour will develop tomorrow morning and exactly where this band forms will determine who sees a nice little thumping of snow tomorrow. For now, with temperatures forecast to be near the freezing mark, did not go too crazy with snowfall accumulations. With highest amounts in the 3 to 6 inch range across Delaware and Otsego Counties, but there is concern that if a band does develop and temperatures are slightly cooler, then some areas could come out with over 6 inches of snow tomorrow. Therefore, have just went with winter weather advisories for now, but we will have to monitor how the event unfolds tomorrow morning with where the band sets up and the transition from rain to snow. Further south into NE PA...temperatures will be close to freezing or just below as rain moves in later tonight and there could be a period of light freezing rain/icing. So although snow amounts are well below criteria in these zones, have decided to hoist an advisory due to the ice threat. There is uncertainty though with surface temperatures. With highs today climbing into the 40s, will a glaze of ice even be able to form on warm road surfaces tonight. For that reason, have not included Luzerne County in this advisory and will have to keep an eye on this to see if an SPS or short fuse advisory is needed if icing does develop. It is possible that there are only a few pockets of slick spots, especially on exposed bridges and overpasses. Precipitation moves out of the area tomorrow afternoon, but there will be a very slight chance for some freezing drizzle or light freezing rain across the north tomorrow night in the higher terrain on either side of the Mohawk Valley. The discussion written last night in the short term still looks good for this time period. Previous discussion at 4 am Sunday... Westerly flow will exist Sunday night with some lake moisture under a weak subsidence inversion. 850mb temperatures will be 4-5 degrees Celsius below freezing, which along with the shallowness of the moisture leaves doubts as to whether precipitation will occur at all. The NAM and Canadian regional suggests at least spotty light precipitation off of Lakes Erie- Ontario; GFS-ECWMF are dry. Even if it does occur, lowest temperatures in the saturated layer may not be cold enough for crystal formation and thus patchy drizzle/freezing drizzle could be the result. In the possible drizzle area, the potential for temperatures reaching freezing or slightly below, will be higher terrain of southern Madison- far southern Oneida-far northern Otsego Counties, as well as northern Oneida County. But of course, that risk is conditional on precipitation happening at all which is in question. If anything manages to occur it will be very light. && .SHORT TERM /MONDAY THROUGH TUESDAY/... 4 AM Update... Surface ridge will move through the region Monday, though a passing shortwave aloft will probably still cause a good amount of cloud cover with highs mainly in the 40s. South of the Twin Tiers-Catskills, at least partial sunshine should be managed. Monday night into Tuesday, we get into southwesterly return flow at the surface as well as warm air advection aloft. Eventually this will mean increasing moisture, but at least through daytime Tuesday conditions should remain dry with only gradually thickening clouds. After lows mainly in the 30s Monday night, we get a good bump in temperatures to mid 40s-mid 50s for Tuesday. && .LONG TERM /TUESDAY NIGHT THROUGH SATURDAY/... 405 AM Update... Things turn active during the long term period, with potential for a deep showery low pressure system Wednesday followed by gusty winds and colder temperatures through Thanksgiving including possible lake effect snow. Operational models are actually in surprisingly good agreement, on a digging trough in the Central Rockies Tuesday, initiating cyclogenesis in the Southern Plains to Midwest Tuesday night, zipping through the Great Lakes Wednesday as a strong surface low to the tune of low 990s mb range. This is depicted in tandem with the upper trough becoming a compact upper low yet one which translates fairly quickly across the northern states. With warm air advection ahead of the system, and the projected track of the low being generally through northern New York into New England, it appears that mainly rain will occur with the system passage Tuesday night into Wednesday. However, strength of the low would likely induce strong pressure rises and steep low level lapse rates later Wednesday with gusty winds. Gusts of 30-40 mph look attainable based on current models; we will need to monitor trends. Continued cyclonic northwesterly cold air advection in the wake of the system, will lead to a chilly brisk Thanksgiving with persistent stiff winds. Biggest point of uncertainty with this system, is will the system slow down just enough on its way out, to allow at least some synoptic wrap around moisture to join the lake effect moisture Wednesday night into Thursday. The Canadian-Global and to a lesser degree the ECMWF suggest a more favorable window of lake enhanced/brief synoptic upslope snow southeast of Lake Ontario late Wednesday night into at least early Thursday; the GFS meanwhile is more progressive and thus very little opportunity for lake effect to organize/join forces with any wrap around moisture. We have several days to sort this out, but given the holiday travel this is worth monitoring. At this time, Friday appears quite cool with continued northwest wind, yet also building high pressure and thus dry. && .AVIATION /03Z SUNDAY THROUGH THURSDAY/... Conditions will gradually deteriorate throughout this evening/overnight from south to north. KBGM, KELM, and KITH will likely remain at VFR until 04Z-06Z, with KSYR and KRME likely remaining VFR until 08Z-09Z. KAVP is already at MVFR as of 00Z and will likely bounce back and forth between VFR and MVFR for a few hours before deteriorating further. Conditions at all terminals eventually lower to the IFR range late tonight/early Sunday morning as a wintry mix of precipitation moves in, perhaps with the exceptions being at KSYR and KRME (as of now expecting ceilings to bottom out in the Fuel Alternate category at these two terminals). Additional visibility restrictions are possible in steadier precipitation, especially as the wintry mix changes over to snow at most locations Sunday morning. Then expecting improvement to MVFR at most terminals early Sunday afternoon and eventually back to VFR by the end of the TAF period as drier air returns from the west. Winds tonight will be mainly from the southwest at less than 10 knots, before shifting to a more northwesterly direction Sunday morning. Outlook... Sunday night through Tuesday...VFR expected. Wednesday...A system bringing rain may pass through the region with associated restrictions. Strong, gusty winds also possible. Thursday...Improvement to VFR after morning snow showers. && .BGM WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... PA...Winter Weather Advisory until 1 PM EST Sunday for PAZ040-044- 047-048-072. NY...Winter Weather Advisory until 1 PM EST Sunday for NYZ062. Winter Weather Advisory until 3 PM EST Sunday for NYZ046-057. && $$ SYNOPSIS...DJN/MPK NEAR TERM...DJN/MPK SHORT TERM...MDP LONG TERM...MDP AVIATION...BJG/DGM
Area Forecast Discussion
National Weather Service Greenville-Spartanburg SC
911 PM EST Sat Nov 23 2019 .SYNOPSIS... As low pressure lifts to our northeast tonight, its associated cold front will move off the Southeast Coast. In its wake, cool high pressure returns on Sunday with another front expected to impact the area by the middle of next week. && .NEAR TERM /THROUGH SUNDAY/... As of 910 PM: The pre-frontal precipitation shield has moved east of the forecast area this evening. Residual showers are filling in a bit in the developing northwest flow over the mountains, and temperatures are starting to tumble there, with some high elevation 30s already evident. Wind and snow showers will be the main concerns for the bulk of the overnight across the mountains, with breezy but clearing conditions expected across the foothills and piedmont. The snow and wind forecasts generally remain on track for the mountains overnight as cold advection develops in earnest and low- level upslope moisture remains fairly deep, at least for a short while early Sunday morning. Will continue to feature around 3 inches of snow around Mt. Mitchell and the higher ridge tops across the Smokies, but with little chance of 2 inch or greater amounts below about 4500 feet. The RAP and NAM continue to depict slightly stronger 850 mb flow in the cold advection, so the northern Blue Ridge Mountain area Wind advisory still looks well placed. Cannot rule out some damaging wind gusts on the highest ridge tops, but again, not low enough for an upgrade to a warning or an expansion farther southwest. East of the Blue Ridge, clearing should occur through the early morning hours Sunday, so expect plenty of sun through the day. Winds will be gusty in the morning, but the pressure gradient relaxes quickly by midday. Temps will still manage to get up to a category or so below normal because of the insolation and downslope flow. && .SHORT TERM /SUNDAY NIGHT THROUGH MONDAY NIGHT/... As of 133 PM EST Saturday: In the wake of the weekend system, the upper pattern goes nearly zonal for the first part of the new week. A weak short wave will pass Sunday night with little fanfare. High pressure should dominate on Monday as it moves across the Deep South and then off the southeast coast Monday night, which should keep our weather fair. Temps will stay right around normal, or maybe just below by a degree or two. && .LONG TERM /TUESDAY THROUGH SATURDAY/... As of 2:25 PM EST Saturday: the extended fcst picks up at 12z on Tuesday with heights steadily increasing over the region as broad upper trofing digs down across the Southern Rockies. Over the next few days, the upper-lvl pattern remains fairly progressive with the above-mentioned upper trof lifting up and over SE CONUS upper ridging late Tues into Wed. By late Wed, the upper trof axis is expected to be passing well to our north and then offshore by early Thursday. After this, the upper ridge amplifies again and remains over the Eastern CONUS into next weekend. At the sfc, dry high pressure will still be over the region as the period begins early Tuesday. During the day on Tues, an impressive low gets ejected from the Great Plains and then lifts NE towards the Great Lakes. As it does, the system will lift a moist warm front over our area late Tues. On Wed, the system`s cold front will move rapidly thru the fcst area and is expected to be moving offshore by late Wed into early Thurs. All precip associated with this system is still expected to be liquid. In its wake, drying high pressure will spread back over the CWFA from the NW. The high remains centered just north of the Great Lakes as it slowly drifts eastward thru the end of the period. This will keep NLY to NELY low-lvl flow over the fcst area into Sat. By the end of the period next Sat, the long-range models develop another strong low over the Plains and lift another warm front over the fcst area by the end of the period. High temps will start out above normal on Tues and Wed and drop just below normal for the rest of the period. Lows should remain above normal thru the period. && .AVIATION /02Z SUNDAY THROUGH THURSDAY/... At KCLT and elsewhere: Conditions will improve rapidly from IFR through MVFR to VFR over the next couple of hours as a front moves east of the region and gusty, drying westerly winds develop. KAVL will be the main exception, where northwest flow moisture could lock in MVFR conditions through the overnight hours. Anticipate gusty winds to develop with the onset of cold advection, and gusts to near 30 kt will be possible at KAVL at times, with 20+ kt east of the mountains. The gradient will gradually relax through Sunday with foothill winds staying mainly WNW to WSW, but remaining NW and occasionally gusty at KAVL. Any mountain snow showers overnight should remain generally N and W of KAVL. Outlook: Dry high pressure and VFR conditions will return behind the departing cold front Sunday. VFR conditions should persist through early next week before another front crosses the region mid-week. Confidence Table... 02-08Z 08-14Z 14-20Z 20-00Z KCLT Med 74% High 100% High 100% High 100% KGSP High 95% High 100% High 100% High 100% KAVL Med 70% Med 69% High 100% High 100% KHKY High 95% High 100% High 100% High 100% KGMU High 95% High 100% High 100% High 100% KAND High 98% High 100% High 100% High 100% The percentage reflects the number of guidance members agreeing with the scheduled TAF issuance flight rule category. Complete hourly experimental aviation forecast consistency tables and ensemble forecasts are available at the following link: www.weather.gov/gsp/aviation && .GSP WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... GA...None. NC...Wind Advisory until noon EST Sunday for NCZ033-049-050-501-503- 505. SC...None. && $$ SYNOPSIS...JPT NEAR TERM...HG/PM SHORT TERM...PM LONG TERM...JPT AVIATION...HG/PM
Area Forecast Discussion
National Weather Service Melbourne FL
1003 PM EST Sat Nov 23 2019 .DISCUSSION... Cold front moving through north Florida this evening, will move into central Florida overnight with rain chances increasing as bands of showers ahead of this boundary work their way into the area. Have increased PoPs just slightly, with greatest rain chances around 50-60 percent along and northwest of a line from Lake Kissimmee to the Cape, to 20-30 percent across the Treasure Coast and Okeechobee County. HRRR model runs have actually been showing some lightning activity as showers move into the area overnight. However, with any instability extremely limited, greatest dynamic forcing farther north of the region, and absence of lightning thus far this evening ahead of the front, will keep any mention out of the forecast. Could however see some brief gusty winds with showers as low level W/SW winds increase ahead of the approaching front overnight. Skies will become mostly cloudy after midnight with lows falling into the upper 50s northwest of I-4 to low-mid 60s farther south. && .AVIATION...Tempo IFR/MVFR conditions will occur in bands of showers that move in ahead of front. These scattered showers currently approaching KLEE-KDAB will move across the area overnight. A period of MVFR cigs may follow behind showers and front, but conditions are expected to rapidly improve from north to south tomorrow as drier air moves into the area. && .MARINE...SW/W winds will increase to 15-20 knots over much of the waters tonight, to around 20 knots offshore of Volusia and Brevard counties overnight as front begins to move through the area. Will keep Small Craft Exercise Caution headlines tonight for everywhere but nearshore Treasure Coast where winds will be closer to 10-15 knots. Still not planning on issuing an SCA offshore due to the short duration of stronger offshore flow overnight, and with seas only expected to build to 5 feet. && .PRELIMINARY POINT TEMPS/POPS... DAB 60 68 49 68 / 50 10 0 0 MCO 62 72 48 70 / 50 10 0 0 MLB 65 77 53 72 / 30 30 0 0 VRB 64 78 52 72 / 30 30 0 0 LEE 59 69 48 68 / 60 10 0 0 SFB 60 71 47 70 / 60 10 0 0 ORL 62 72 48 70 / 60 10 0 0 FPR 63 79 53 73 / 20 30 0 0 && .MLB WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... FL...None. AM...None. && $$ Weitlich/Pendergrast
Area Forecast Discussion
National Weather Service Marquette MI
1033 PM EST Sat Nov 23 2019 .UPDATE... Issued at 1025 PM EST SAT NOV 23 2019 Mostly clear skies over the central and eastern portions of the UP have allowed temperatures to fall quickly this evening, particularly for locations with greater snowpack. Temperatures were already in the teens, well below guidance, for these areas but cloud cover was quickly moving in from the west associated with a weak shortwave. Lowered the overnight min temperatures a few degrees from the current observations as they should steady and moderate some as clouds move in. The rest of the forecast is on track, kept low PoPs across the north. With dry air in place it will be hard for the precipitation to reach the ground. However, where it does there could be enough warm air aloft to result in very light freezing rain. && .SHORT TERM...(This evening through Sunday) Issued at 243 PM EST SAT NOV 23 2019 Another mostly quiet short-term period on tap tonight and tomorrow. Water vapor satellite shows the narrow, positively tilted trough that`s been responsible for some very light, widely-scattered flurries and showers over Lake Superior and clipping the Keweenaw. That trough will continue to push east out of the area this evening. Away from the lake, clear skies have allowed temps to rise to near 40 or in a few cases into the 40s. However clouds will increase again from west to east tonight ahead of a short wave and weak upper- level jet racing through Ontario and clipping Lake Superior. Right now it looks like the lion`s share of the forcing strong enough for precip will remain out over the lake, but the RAP and a few CAMs resolve a quick-hitting band of precip pushing east across the U.P. early Sunday morning (generally 09-14z) with the best chances (but still only 40% or so) over the Keweenaw and in Luce County. Even though there will be some low level dry air to saturate before precip falls tonight/tomorrow morning, GFS and RAP model soundings both show wet bulb temps above freezing from just above the surface to about 800 mb, give or take. That means any precip that falls over land could be freezing rain where the surface temps are cold enough. Thankfully, as stated before, precip chances are low, and QPF is 0.02" at most so not expecting any impacts from this. But should this band of precip overperform, there could be some slick spots in the morning. Heights aloft rising behind this short wave should allow for at least a period of partial clearing over the west and away from Lake Superior Sunday afternoon before high clouds filter in from the southwest in the evening. Over the Keweenaw and east, however, onshore flow with ambient temps just cold enough for shallow lake effect saturation will keep low clouds in place and probably allow for some light drizzle east as well. Outside of these areas, went with the median of the models giving highs around 40 to the mid 40s over the south-central. Another chance to get a car wash in if you didn`t do it today! .LONG TERM...(Sunday night through Saturday) Issued at 347 PM EST SAT NOV 23 2019 Models suggest that a quasi-zonal pattern with wnw mid/upper level flow through the northern CONUS will give way to troughing over the west through the first part of next week. The trough is expected to slowly move into the central CONUS by next weekend as ridging over the Great Lakes slides to the east. temps should remain near or slightly above seasonal averages through Tue with slight cooling from Wed-Sat. Sunday night into Monday, another stronger shrtwv with stronger WAA/isentropic lift ahead of it will move through northern Ontario. Some ra/sn will be possible but with little or no accumulation as the stronger forcing remains to the north and moisture remains scarce. Mon night into Tue, although instability will be marginal with 850 mb temps only to around -7C, some light W to NW flow LES may be possible into the KEweenaw as a weak sfc trough moves through. Tue night into Wed, Models have trended slightly to the northwest with the strong neg tilt shortwave and deepening sfc low lifting northeast from the srn/cntrl plains. Even though the models spread is decreasing, uncertainty remains with the track/timing. The consensus and ensemble means take the sfc low through or near cntrl lower Michigan. If this holds up, much of Upper Michigan would be in line for moderate and possibly heavy snow with additional lake/terrain contributions north. Cold enough air will be pulled in for nw-n flow LES as 850 mb later Wed into Wed night behind the departing system as 850 temps drop to around -10C. Thu-Sat, drier weather is likely to move in Thu with sfc and mid level ridging building into the area. Pcpn chances increase by Friday into Sat as a WAA pattern develops ahead of the next low developing over the plains associated with the advancing mid level trough. && .AVIATION...(For the 00Z TAFS through 00Z Sunday evening) Issued at 630 PM EST SAT NOV 23 2019 VFR conditions expected to prevail at IWD and SAW through the TAF period. A few light showers could affect KCMX and KSAW overnight but did include in the TAFs due to low probabilities and brief durations. MVFR CIGS will develop Sunday morning with onshore flow and orographic forcing at KCMX. Added mention of LLWS to KSAW for a brief window Sunday morning as low level winds strengthen above a shallow inversion. Shallow moisture moving into the area tomorrow afternoon will result in some low level cloudiness at KIWD, hinted at this with scattered low clouds toward the end of the TAF period. && .MARINE...(For the 4 PM Lake Superior forecast issuance) Issued at 243 PM EST SAT NOV 23 2019 20-30 kt WSW winds continue across the lake this afternoon. Winds will briefly relax to about 20 kts this evening but quickly restrengthen to 25-30 kts on the western half of the lake early Sunday morning. These winds up to 30 kts will spread east across the eastern lake during the day on Sunday, but then become very light Sunday night as slight ridging passes over the lake. Winds then increase back to 20-30 kts on Monday with broad low pressure moving through Ontario and clipping Lake Superior. A strong low pressure system is still lurking in the long range forecast, right now likely to make its closest approach on Wednesday. The trend was towards the south and east (and thus away from significant impacts to Lake Superior) but today`s model runs have shifted back west somewhat. The models will probably continue to flip back and forth slightly on the exact track the next few days so the bottom line is that the midweek period should continue to be watched for stronger winds even though confidence remains low. && .MQT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... Upper Michigan... None. Lake Superior... None. Lake Michigan... None. && $$ UPDATE...NL SHORT TERM...RJC LONG TERM...JLB AVIATION...NL MARINE...RJC