Forecast Discussions mentioning any of "HRRR" "RAP" "RUC13" "RUC" "RR" received at GSD on 10/04/18


Area Forecast Discussion
National Weather Service Boise ID
905 PM MDT Wed Oct 3 2018 .DISCUSSION... Showers and isolated thunderstorms spreading into southern portions of the forecast area about as expected. Lowered the chance of precipitation a little over southern Harney and Malheur Counties through midnight based on limited showers at present and latest HRRR not generating much precipitation there either. Otherwise the forecast looks good. && .AVIATION...VFR through much of the night with areas of MVFR in early morning. Isolated showers will continue to press in from the south through early Thursday morning becoming widespread by early afternoon. Cold front pushes into SE Oregon early morning then hits SW Idaho by early afternoon. Surface winds, west-northwest 5-10kts increasing to 10-15kts with frontal passage with gusts of 20-25kts. Winds aloft to 10k feet MSL, northwest 25-30kts. && .PREV DISCUSSION... SHORT TERM...Tonight through Friday...Isolated showers and thunderstorms were starting to develop this afternoon near the ID/NV border and in southeast Oregon south of Burns and Rome. The shower activity will expand in coverage with a northeastward expansion overnight. Any thunderstorms are expected to end by midnight. The showers will continue through Thursday ahead of an approaching upper trough and cold front. Snow levels will be at or above 9000 feet ahead of the front, then fall to around 7000 feet for a chance of light snow accumulations on the peaks in the West Central Mountains. Cooler drier air will arrive with the frontal passage. The front is expected to move through southeast Oregon late Wednesday night and southwest Idaho Thursday morning. There is a slight chance of afternoon thunderstorms ahead of the front, including a portion of southeast Oregon east of Boise and along the Nevada border. Gusty west-northwest winds will arrive with the front, especially east of Mountain Home where it will be windy in the afternoon. The showers will end in southwest Idaho by late Thursday evening as the upper trough moves to the east and a drier northwest flow follows, which will persist through most of Friday. The next approaching system could bring a slight chance of showers to southeast Oregon by late Friday afternoon. Temperatures will be around 10 degrees below normal through the period. LONG TERM...Friday night through Monday...The cool and unsettled pattern will continue. The upper level trough which will spread showers into our Oregon zones Friday afternoon will continue on a southeastward track Friday night and arrive over our area Saturday morning. Models are in good agreement through the weekend, but timing of the trough is a bit slower than yesterday`s runs. The trough will deepen southward over the Intermountain Region through the weekend before slowly exiting to the east Sunday night and Monday. Scattered to numerous showers will spread across our area Friday night and Saturday morning and continue through Saturday afternoon, then end across most of the area Saturday night, but showers will still be possible along the Nevada border and in the Magic Valley through Sunday morning. Weak high pressure and northwest flow aloft will keep most of our area dry Sunday afternoon through Monday. Highs will be 10 to 15 degrees below normal. Lows will be near normal Saturday and around 5 degrees below normal Sunday and Monday. Monday night through Wednesday...A trough deepens over the area Tuesday, ushering in colder temperatures Wednesday. Though models differ on the timing and amount, rain and mountain snow showers are expected to move through the region Tuesday and Wednesday. && .BOI WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... ID...None. OR...None. && $$ www.weather.gov/Boise www.facebook.com/NWSBoise www.twitter.com/NWSBoise DISCUSSION...TL AVIATION.....JC PREV SHORT TERM...BW PREV LONG TERM....JT/AL
Area Forecast Discussion
National Weather Service Denver/Boulder CO
921 PM MDT Wed Oct 3 2018 .UPDATE... Issued at 921 PM MDT Wed Oct 3 2018 Made a few changes to the forecast based on latest observational trends. Radar and GOES-016/17 imagery show the precipitation behind the cold front has been much less than originally anticipated so lowered PoPs a category across the mountains especially, and also a bit more on the plains. HRRR insists on redevelopment tonight generally along and south of I-76, so will keep PoPs in place for later tonight, though confidence is lower than earlier today that a decent precip shield will develop. There is synoptic upward motion that spreads over our area tonight and moisture in the mid-levels remains pretty good tonight. Thus, the best chance of some light rain continues to be for the eastern plains. Cloud cover is also expected to be less and delayed until much later tonight. With reasonably dry low- level air behind the front, a stratus deck is much less likely as well. Still expect ample clouds but just not the low stratus variety. Winds have already decreased most areas as the pressure gradient has relaxed after the initial strong push from the northeast. Winds and overnight lows look on track, and it will be a cool night with temps in the upper 30s to mid 40s across the plains, and similar temps in the mountains as the cold air is rather shallow across the plains, latest Platteville profiler data indicates the cold air extends to about 9,000 feet across the east slopes. && .SHORT TERM...(This evening through Thursday) Issued at 234 PM MDT Wed Oct 3 2018 Radars to the north and northeast are showing a decent cold front moving south at about 35 knots. It is into southern Wyoming at present. You can see it on the visible satellite pictures too. Temperatures are about 30 F immediately behind it. Wind speeds behind the front are generally 20-35 knots. Area radar pictures are showing some showers developing and moving into the mountains from the west. Models keep southwesterly flow aloft at about 90 knots at jet level tonight well into Thursday. One piece of the developing mean trough to our west moves across the CWA on Thursday. The QG Omega fields show a decent couplet of synoptic scale energy to move across Colorado tonight and Thursday. The upward motion tonight/Thursday morning is somewhat strong. Models show decent moisture over the CWA this evening into Thursday morning. Moisture decreases Thursday afternoon. The QPF fields have limited measurable precipitation for a good portion of the CWA from early evening into Thursday morning. There is fairly decent CAPE progged over the mountains overnight into Thursday. With the synoptic scale energy, upslope and available moisture, the current 30-70% pops look good. For temperatures, Thursday`s highs are some 7-17 C cooler then this afternoon`s highs. .LONG TERM...(Thursday night through Wednesday) Issued at 234 PM MDT Wed Oct 3 2018 For Thursday night into Friday, a trough will be passing over the region with upper level flow turning more zonal behind it. Will keep some light pops over the eastern plains into late Thursday with the continued QG ascent and lift provided by the upper jet. Increasing subsidence behind the trough will help to clear out precipitation through the morning hours on Friday. By Friday morning the next upper level disturbance will be over Utah, moving down from the NW. By the afternoon a cold front will drop out of the North as the upper trough is pushing into NW Colorado and the northern mountains. 700mb temperatures will begin to drop behind the front bringing increased chances of rain and snow to the northern mountain zones 31 and 33 Friday night into Saturday. The forcing will push SE across the plains increasing rain showers through the morning hours on Saturday. Freezing levels will drop into the 9 to 10,000 ft range which will bring snow over the higher elevations and mountain passes and a rain and snow mixtures to the higher foothills by early Saturday. Any snow that will fall will have a hard time sticking with highs remaining above freezing with temperatures in the 50s on the plains and upper 30s to lower 40s in the mountains. Precipitation will push out of the area by late Saturday morning with increasing QG subsidence behind the trough. The next upper level feature will be over the Great Basin by Saturday afternoon. This is where the models start to diverge. As the trough starts to push into the four corners region Saturday into Sunday the GFS closes off over Utah with the EC slightly further South into AZ. Even with the disparity in model consensus the system over the region Sunday into Monday looks to be the best chance for accumulating snow in the mountains. There will be good lift with this system with the upper jet and moderate QG values. Models show a surface low deepening over the eastern plains Sunday afternoon that will help to increase ESE upslope for the higher foothills and areas east of the divide. This combined with a northerly push late Sunday will help to increase snow chances for the northern and central mountains West of the divide. Models show snow levels decreasing through Monday into the 8 to 9,000 ft range. Currently, the mountains could see 3 to 6 inches from Sunday afternoon/evening through Monday. The plains will continue to see rain with models showing 700 mb temperatures only in the -1 to 2 C range and that is just the GFS, the EC is warmer in the mid levels. Temperatures will still get colder than normal with highs in the upper 40s to low 50s monday and Tuesday. The trough train continues into mid week with another possibly disturbance Thursday/Friday with mild temperatures. && .AVIATION...(For the 00Z TAFS through 00Z Thursday evening) Issued at 921 PM MDT Wed Oct 3 2018 Confidence is increasing that stratus should not impact the terminals overnight tonight. While the cold front has moved across the terminals, upstream observations do not support stratus formation and GOES 16/17 do not show stratus within several 100 miles of the front. Have hedged bets in the TAF with just barely MVFR conditions but would not be surprised if it stayed VFR throughout tonight. Winds have already decreased as expected behind the front and will gradually turn more east throughout tonight, and dropping to 8-13 kts or so at DEN and APA. BJC should remain less than 10 kts out of the north generally. Weak, isolated showers have developed behind the front but coverage and intensity is not enough to include in the TAFs. Instead VCSH should suffice tonight. After mid-morning winds should come around to southeast, then south to south- southwest by mid to late afternoon. Winds could gust to over 20 kts at APA and DEN this afternoon before weakening again this evening. && .BOU WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... None. && $$ UPDATE...Schlatter SHORT TERM...RJK LONG TERM...Bowen AVIATION...Schlatter
Area Forecast Discussion
National Weather Service Lincoln IL
1044 PM CDT Wed Oct 3 2018 .UPDATE... Issued at 830 PM CDT Wed Oct 3 2018 The latest surface analysis depicts a strong cold front over east central Iowa early this evening starting to surge east and southeast with 3 hourly pressure rises from 7 to 9 mb across the Dakotas where 50-55 mph wind gusts were observed. The strong area of low pressure along the front has surged north to Lake Superior this evening and will continue to move well to our north tonight. Scattered convection has developed along the boundary with the latest HRRR model bringing the bulk of the convection into our west and northwest counties after 10 pm. 00z ILX sounding continues to indicate poor mid level (700-500 mb) lapse rates which may keep the coverage of any strong storms to a minimum ahead of the cold front. Instability, at least surface based, should continue to diminish this evening but strong wind fields, 0-6km bulk shear of 38 kts, will continue to provide support for isolated strong wind gusts with some of the more intense updrafts along the cold front. The current forecast has a good handle on the trends this evening with respect to timing of the convection into our area and with temperatures, so other than some minor adjustments to the hourly temperatures and winds this evening, no significant changes were made that would require a ZFP update at this time. && .SHORT TERM...(This evening through Thursday) ISSUED AT 315 PM CDT Wed Oct 3 2018 19z/2pm surface analysis shows a strong cold front extending from eastern Minnesota to northern Nebraska. An unseasonably warm/humid airmass characterized by temperatures well into the 80s to around 90 degrees prevails ahead of the front, while readings have plunged into the 50s behind the boundary across the Dakotas. Despite the impressive thermal gradient, most of the convection associated with this feature is focused across Minnesota/Wisconsin immediately ahead of a short-wave trough tracking along the US/Canada border. Further south along the front, a capped airmass has prevented convective development thus far. All CAMs are showing scattered showers and thunderstorms developing along the trailing cold front by early this evening, with the activity pushing into the Illinois River Valley between 8pm and 10pm...then reaching the I-55 corridor by around midnight. Given current trends and latest HRRR/NAM, have reduced PoPs into the high chance to likely category. The activity will push further E/SE after midnight, eventually reaching the I-70 corridor by around 3am. While SPC continues to highlight locations along/northwest of a Rantoul to Springfield line for a Marginal Risk for severe, think decreasing instability and a lack of strong deep-layer shear will prevent severe development. Once the front passes, breezy and much cooler conditions will spill into the area from the northwest after midnight. Overnight lows will range from around 50 degrees in Galesburg to the lower 70s south of I-70. A few showers will linger across the E/SE KILX CWA into Thursday morning: however, most spots will remain dry as the front settles southward into the Ohio River Valley. High temperatures will be considerably cooler than today...ranging from the lower 60s in the Illinois River Valley to the upper 70s far southeast around Lawrenceville. .LONG TERM...(Thursday night through Wednesday) ISSUED AT 315 PM CDT Wed Oct 3 2018 The extended forecast will be dominated by warm and unsettled weather as the prevailing baroclinic zone wavers across the Midwest through at least the middle of next week. This will result in periodic rain chances and plenty of ups and downs in the temperature. The Ohio River Valley frontal boundary will lift back northward into central Illinois...triggering another round of showers and thunderstorms late Thursday night into Friday morning. Rain chances will diminish from south to north across the area by Friday afternoon as the front lifts to the I-80 corridor. Due to a return to warm/southerly winds and a lull in the precip chances, afternoon high temperatures will once again surge well into the 80s across at least the southern two-thirds of the CWA. Another cold front will begin to approach from the west late Friday night into Saturday, bringing another uptick in rain chances at that time. This boundary will have difficulty passing through the region as a strong upper-level ridge of high pressure builds over the southeastern CONUS. The ridge will essentially act as a blocking mechanism, thus keeping the frontal boundary from exiting the region. As a result, warm and showery weather will persist for both Saturday and Sunday. After that, the ridge will become even stronger early next week...shifting the front back to the N/NW and placing central Illinois solidly in the warm sector. Am therefore expecting very warm and dry conditions on Monday...with only chance PoPs returning to the picture by Tuesday. High temperatures both days will reach the middle to upper 80s. && .AVIATION...(For the 06Z TAFS through 06Z Thursday night) Issued at 1040 PM CDT Wed Oct 3 2018 Outside any convection during the early morning hours, we are looking for mostly VFR conditions across the forecast area. Cold front over eastern Iowa continues to make steady progress to the east with scattered showers and storms along the boundary. A few of the storms, if they can get into a TAF site, will be capable of producing wind gusts of 40-45 kts, but based on reports to our west, those type of wind gusts will be few and far between. The front should push east of the forecast area by 12z. There still is the threat for a brief period of MVFR cigs immediately behind the cold front Thursday morning so will continue to carry scattered to broken cigs around 3000 feet just after FROPA. Surface winds will continue from a south to southwest direction ahead of the cold front with speeds in the 15 to 20 kt range with a few gusts up to 30 kts at times, especially in and near any convection. Look for winds to shift into the northwest just after FROPA in the 08z to 12z time frame across our forecast area. Winds on Thursday will then turn more into the north to northeast by afternoon with speeds in the 12 to 17 kt range with a few gusts up to 23 kts at times before diminishing from a mostly easterly direction by 00z. && .ILX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... NONE. && $$ UPDATE...Smith SHORT TERM...Barnes LONG TERM...Barnes AVIATION...Smith
Area Forecast Discussion
National Weather Service Chicago/Romeoville, IL
927 PM CDT Wed Oct 3 2018 .UPDATE... 927 PM CDT Generally only minor tweaks made to going forecast this evening, though have adjusted gridded pops a few times to sharpen up the leading and trailing edges of precip and add more detail to timing of greatest storm threat. 02Z surface analysis depicts a sharp cold front stretching from low pressure over Ontario/northern Lake Superior, southwest across Wisconsin and into eastern Iowa. Broad, warm and breezy warm sector air mass was in place ahead of the front. High-res guidance had been more bullish earlier on convection developing within a pre-frontal convergence zone ahead of the front, though trends have been for mainly a few elevated showers in warm advection atop slightly decoupled boundary layer this evening. Most organized convection is immediately along/ahead of the cold front to our west, and while scattered showers and storms will likely increase in advance, the storms associated with the surface frontal zone are expected to be the main show. Rough timing would suggest the greatest threat for storms into the Rockford area by midnight, Chicago by about 1 am, and northwest indiana after that. Storms will end fairly quickly with the passage of the front during the pre-dawn hours. Despite unfavorable seasonal and diurnal timing, anomalously moist and mild air mass and very strong wind fields will present the potential for isolated severe weather with the frontal convective line. Evening upper air analysis indicated 40-50 kt winds in the 925-850 mb layer, and there have been a few 45 kt gusts (52 mph) noted in Iowa as this line passes. Areas along/north of the I-80 corridor remain in an SPC slight risk overnight primarily for the damaging wind potential, though strong low-level speed shear will present a non-zero isolated tornado threat as well. Winds remain gusty behind the front, with temps dropping into the 50s by morning. Ratzer && .SHORT TERM... 225 PM CDT Through Thursday... Focus in the near term is with an approaching cold front, specifically gusty winds ahead of the front and convective chances late today and tonight near the front. Early this afternoon, low pressure is analyzed over west central Minnesota with a cold front trailing south-southwest across eastern South Dakota into Nebraska. Tight pressure gradient is in place ahead of the front with a broad area of 3-4 mb/3 hr pressure falls which are contributing to gusty winds across the region. Forecast soundings from the RAP and NAM support low to mid 30 kt gusts continuing into early this evening, and top of the channel winds in excess of 40 kt suggest a few sporadic higher gusts near wind advisory criteria (39kt/45mph) are possible. Winds will likely remain gusty through the overnight hours, though should taper some in magnitude after sunset as mixing becomes less efficient. Models suggest that convective initiation will occur ahead of the approaching cold front over portions of Iowa this evening then thunderstorms will shift east across Illinois and Indiana late this evening and overnight. Unseasonably warm and moist conditions this afternoon are contributing to a pocket of moderately unstable air with MLCAPE of around 1500 J/kg currently over the region. RAP suggests that instability will further increase to around 2000 J/kg immediately ahead of the front late this afternoon, but should gradually diminish as the front moves across the local area overnight. Moderately strong instability and strong low to mid level winds (900-700mb winds average in excess of 50 kt at times) will support a low end severe threat with storms, especially west of the I-39 corridor, but that threat along with overall storm coverage should diminish with time as storms move east across the local CWA. Cold front will begin to sweep across the CWA late this evening and overnight turning winds northwest in its wake and ending the chance for thunderstorms. Guidance has trended a little slower with timing of the frontal passage and expect passage around midnight to 100 AM CDT in the Rockford area and 200-400 AM CDT for the Chicago metro area. Winds will remain breezy behind the front well into the day Thursday, but should very gradually diminish in magnitude as high pressure builds towards the region. Temperatures are expected to top out 20-25F cooler Thursday with highs only in the 50s and 60s. Deubelbeiss && .LONG TERM... 302 PM CDT Thursday night through Wednesday... Active period of weather is expected for the long term forecast period. Then next round of thunderstorms is expected to move into the area Thursday night into Friday as a warm front surges north across the area while deepening low pressure lifts northeast across central Iowa and through Wisconsin. Warm sector air will be in place by mid- day Friday. Scattered showers and thunderstorms will likely be ongoing by the morning commute Friday morning. Coverage and intensity will likely increase through the evening, focusing along the sfc low and associated frontal system. Strong low level forcing associated with frontal convergence and a 30-50 kt low-level jet aligned with relatively high instability will combine to bring a severe threat, which is currently looking to be focused over the nwrn portions of the CWA in the evening. Into the overnight hours, the severe threat should diminish diurnally, but a heavy rainfall threat will persist overnight as unseasonably high pwats in excess of 1.75 inches will be in place, pooling along the frontal system. The latest WPC Day-3 Excessive Rainfall Outlook in highlighting locations north and west of the I-55 corridor in a Slight Risk for excessive rainfall. Currently feel that much of the guidance could be a little conservative in the QPF with the system and that the nwrn portions of the CWA could see on the order of 2 to 3 inches storm total rainfall for the period from Friday afternoon through Saturday. With portions of the Rock and Pecatonica Rivers already in flood from previous upstream rainfall, expect that additional flooding of area rivers will be likely. High pressure parked over the sern CONUS will limit the southward push of the cold front, likely becoming quasi-stationary across cntrl IL/IN through the day on Sunday. With the boundary parked just south of the CWA, pcpn chances will continue through the day. Another low is expected to develop over the Western Plains by Monday, with another round of strong storms likely with the next frontal passage. Timing with the second round of storms may be a little more uncertainty and will be dependent on the timing of the progression of the system. Latest guidance suggests Thursday or Thursday night, but anticipate that timing will become a bit more certain with time. && .AVIATION... For the 00Z TAFs... 658 pm...Several forecast concerns this period including a period of scattered thunderstorms late this evening into the early morning hours...strong gusty southwest winds shifting northwest with a cold front overnight and then shifting northeast Thursday morning. A few showers have developed near ord and isolated showers will be possible this evening. However...more organized showers and scattered thunderstorms are expected along/ahead of a cold front. Adjusted timing slightly and also increased the tempo to 3 hours for the possibility of two lines of convection. Some lingering showers may persist behind the front...but as the colder air rushes into the moist air ahead of the front...a brief period of low mvfr or ifr cigs are possible. While prevailing winds are likely to remain southwesterly during the precip...erratic/gusty winds are possible with the strongest storms. Winds will shift northwest behind the cold front and forecast soundings suggest gusts into the mid 20 kt range. Winds will then slowly turn northerly by sunrise and are expected to shift to the north/northeast by mid morning Thursday and remain northeasterly for the remainder of the period. There is another chance for showers and isolated thunderstorms early Friday morning...just after the end of the current 30 hour ord/mdw tafs...so no mention for now. cms && .LOT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... IL...None. IN...None. 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Area Forecast Discussion
National Weather Service Melbourne FL
910 PM EDT Wed Oct 3 2018 .UPDATE... Tonight...A weak low level inverted trough will approach southern sections late. Breezy low level east/northeast winds ahead of this feature were already setting up convergence lines over the Atlantic and increasing marine shower coverage in the south. Higher moisture associated with the inverted trough will then arrive there late. Therefore, have increased PoPs along the Treasure Coast to 40-50%. The HRRR model shows some lightning over the southern coastal waters towards 12z, but won`t introduce any thunder to the south coast yet. Otherwise, no significant changes with lower coverage of showers moving ashore northward. Low level winds around 15 knots should push a few showers well inland, especially in the south. && .AVIATION...Conditions will be VFR for most of the area, except brief MVFR can be expected at coastal terminals, especially KMLB southward as showers move ashore overnight and into Thu morning. && .MARINE... Tonight-Thursday...Recent buoy reports show seas 4-5 feet nearshore, but 41009 has been 6-7 feet. Even though conditions nearshore look marginal for an Advisory for Hazardous Seas, will not make any changes because 1) wave guidance shows seas slowly increasing overnight and into Thu 2) winds at 41009 have been around 15 knots so the combination of wind wave/swell will produce rough conditions for small craft operation and 3) showers will produce occasional wind gusts 20-25 knots. && .MLB WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... FL...None. AM...Small Craft Advisory for hazardous seas from 10 PM this evening to 4 AM EDT Friday for Sebastian Inlet to Jupiter Inlet 0- 20 nm-Volusia-Brevard County Line to Sebastian Inlet 0-20 nm. Small Craft Advisory for hazardous seas until 4 AM EDT Friday for Flagler Beach to Volusia-Brevard County Line 20-60 nm- Sebastian Inlet to Jupiter Inlet 20-60 nm-Volusia-Brevard County Line to Sebastian Inlet 20-60 nm. && $$ Forecasts...Lascody Impact WX/Radar...Sedlock/Combs
Area Forecast Discussion
National Weather Service Twin Cities/Chanhassen MN
717 PM CDT Wed Oct 3 2018 .SHORT TERM...(This evening through Thursday) Issued at 345 PM CDT Wed Oct 3 2018 A powerful early Fall cold front was moving rapidly to the east across western Minnesota this afternoon. Ahead of this front, dew points rose into the upper 60s, to lower 70s which is very anomalous for early October. PWATs are either in record territory, or near it with readings around 1.6". The warm sector was producing severe thunderstorms in northern Wisconsin this afternoon, with a mixture of rain/snow in northwest Minnesota where afternoon temperatures were in the 30s. You will notice the cold frontal passage this evening as winds shift to the northwest and begin to gusts over 40 to 50 mph. Wind gusts over 60 mph were occurring in eastern South Dakota where the front moved through earlier this afternoon. Severe weather will be confined to west central Wisconsin where the best instability and wind shear exists early. Most of the active storms will have moved out of west central Wisconsin by 7 PM. The main weather element this evening will be the strong winds ushering in the coldest air of the season. By morning, temperatures will have fallen into the 30s, with wind chill values in the 20s. Skies will be sunny in the morning, but it will be short lived as the next system rapidly moves to the northeast across the Rockies, and into the Northern Plains by the afternoon. Scattered showers will be likely in far western Minnesota by the mid/late afternoon, with skies becoming cloudy elsewhere. .LONG TERM...(Thursday night through Wednesday) Issued at 355 PM CDT Wed Oct 3 2018 Very little changes in the extended period with the active weather pattern continuing. Thursday night and early Friday will be wet as the next in the series of short waves move across the Upper Midwest. Saturday looks to be the driest, but Sunday will have another good chance of widespread precipitation. Overall, the mean upper level flow will remain from the west early, then back to the southwest as a deep trough begins to dig across the western CONUS this weekend. Several waves of energy will begin to eject out of this deepening trough out west and lead to periods of precipitation. Timing, and areal extent of the precipitation remains the forecast concern. However, based on the consistency of the models and the deep elongated trough out west, the Upper Midwest will likely see bouts of heavy rainfall, leading to flooding concerns over the weekend, and into next week. Most of southern Minnesota and western Wisconsin will stay on the warm side of the synoptic scale thermal ridge centered over the Northern Plains. However, any deviation to this thermal ridge or a much more aggressive short wave moving further to the southeast, will lead to a colder scenario and possibly a mixture of rain/snow. This is even more notable in western Minnesota where this thermal gradient will likely be closer. Otherwise, with the precipitation chances high and likely a broad area of cloud cover, temperatures will likely average below normal through early next week. The longer range models still depict a colder pattern, at least for the northern Rockies, and into the Northern Plains. && .AVIATION...(For the 00Z TAFS through 00Z Thursday evening) Issued at 717 PM CDT Wed Oct 3 2018 Squall line will clear EAU by 1z and after that the main concerns are the gusty northwest winds behind the cold front and how long the MVFR cigs will stick around. Satellite and obs show fairly extensive stratus back into the eastern Dakotas. As a result, delayed improvements to VFR closer to what the NAM soundings and HREF probs show. We`ll see mainly clear skies in the morning, but in the afternoon mid level clouds will increase as isentropic lift increases ahead of the next system. We should start seeing rain move into western MN around 21z, with rain reaching AXN/RWF by the end of the period. KMSP...NAM soundings and HREF probs would say MVFR cigs lingering to as late as 10z, so may need to delay improvement to VFR further. Looking at dry low levels on forecast soundings, rain reaching MSP as early as the 18z HRRR has it (22z) is a bit unlikely. Like the idea of the GFS/NAM that it stays out until after 00z Thu. /OUTLOOK FOR KMSP/ Fri...MVFR/IFR. Chc -SHRA. Wind SE 5-10 kts. Sat...MVFR cigs. Wind N 5-10 kts. Sun...Mainly MVFR. Chc aftn -SHRA. Wind E 10G20 kts. && .MPX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... WI...None. MN...Wind Advisory until midnight CDT tonight for MNZ067-075>078- 083>085-092-093. Wind Advisory until 9 PM CDT this evening for MNZ054-056-064-065- 073-074-082-091. && $$ SHORT TERM...JLT LONG TERM...JLT AVIATION...MPG