Forecast Discussions mentioning any of "HRRR" "RAP" "RUC13" "RUC" "RR" received at GSD on 11/16/17


Area Forecast Discussion
National Weather Service Duluth MN
542 PM CST Wed Nov 15 2017 .SHORT TERM...(This evening through Thursday) Issued at 302 PM CST Wed Nov 15 2017 Colder air will settle across the Northland this evening and overnight, which will support slick road conditions, especially on secondary and untreated roadways. Strong cold air advection behind a cold front that swept through the Northland earlier today will bring in below freezing temperatures across the area. 925 mb temperatures are progged to quickly fall into the 5 to 10 below zero range by 06z tonight, only decreasing from there through Thursday morning. Observed road temperatures across Minnesota are hovering around the lower to middle 30s, so temperatures don`t have to drop far to allow freezing precipitation on road surfaces. NAM and RAP model soundings indicate there will be very little in the way of saturation in the ice producing layer, so thinking that the predominant precipitation type will be freezing drizzle as there is a shallow saturated layer in the low-levels, although some light snow is possible over the Minnesota Arrowhead. Overnight lows tonight should drop into the lower to middle teens along the International Border into the lower 20s over northwest Wisconsin. Thanks to the colder air and northwesterly flow off Lake Superior, there should also be some light snow accumulation from the Bayfield Peninsula southeast over north-central Wisconsin. The heaviest snowfall amounts should fall along the Gogebic Range in Iron county, with new snow amounts between 1" to 2" possible. Thursday will be a drier day, with colder temperatures compared to the last few days. Highs Thursday should range from the middle to upper 20s over the Minnesota Arrowhead to the lower 30s over the south. The only things of note for Thursday are winds turning more on-shore/northeasterly in the morning, which some models are progging some light precipitation from Duluth and points northeast along the North Shore. However, it looks too dry in the 1000-850 mb layer to support any lake effect showers. The better support for precipitation will come in the afternoon and evening as 850-700 mb layer warm air advection will bring increasing clouds and some small chances of snow showers. Also, enhanced moisture advection will increase precipitation chances Thursday night into Friday. Southeasterly winds will also intensify in the afternoon due to a tightening sfc pressure gradient, with gusts between 20 to 25 kts, especially across our western counties. .LONG TERM...(Thursday night through Wednesday) Issued at 302 PM CST Wed Nov 15 2017 An area of low pressure will move through the central Canadian Plains Thursday night and Friday. This will be accompanied by a mid level trof and pieces of vorticity in the southwest flow aloft. There will be enough warm air ahead of this system and its cold front to result in a mix of winter p-types Thursday night, possibly becoming all rain over the southern tier of the forecast area. The mixed p-types will continue Friday morning before becoming all rain over the south and a rain/snow mix over the north. Some freezing drizzle/freezing rain is also possible over the higher terrain of northeastern Minnesota. Some light snow accumulations may occur along the Canadian border, especially Friday. The mixed p-types will continue Friday night as the low moves east and another area of low pressure moves from Iowa into the lower Great Lakes by Saturday afternoon. Enough cold air is pulled into the region Saturday afternoon to change the p-type to all snow. The snow will also diminish over all but the elevated terrain of northwest Wisconsin. High pressure moves over the region Saturday night and Sunday. However, lake effect processes will persist along the south shore of Lake Superior. A quasi-zonal flow aloft with ridging at the surface will be in charge Sunday night and Monday. Warm, dry air will be pulled into the area through Monday. By Monday night, a strong area of low pressure will move through the Canadian Plains and drag a cold front through the region. It will take some time for enough moisture to saturate the atmosphere and produce pcpn, but the cold air surging into the area will lead to snow for the main ptype through Tuesday. && .AVIATION...(For the 00Z TAFS through 00Z Thursday evening) Issued at 539 PM CST Wed Nov 15 2017 Low pressure will move off to the east across the region tonight, as high pressure moves in from the west. Some of the clouds will break up as the night wears on, although stubborn areas of clouds will persist through the night and into Thursday. Another area of low pressure will approach the region from the west on Thursday. Strong WAA ahead of this system will bring an increase in mid and high level clouds. IFR/MVFR conditions overnight will transition to a mix of MVFR/VFR on Thursday. && .PRELIMINARY POINT TEMPS/POPS... DLH 19 30 28 37 / 10 20 30 60 INL 14 28 27 35 / 10 20 40 60 BRD 21 33 31 40 / 0 10 10 20 HYR 23 33 31 38 / 20 10 30 70 ASX 26 33 30 40 / 50 20 30 70 && .DLH WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... WI...None. MN...None. LS...Small Craft Advisory until 4 AM CST Thursday for LSZ121-140-146- 147. Small Craft Advisory until noon CST Thursday for LSZ148. && $$ SHORT TERM...JTS LONG TERM...GSF AVIATION...DAP
Area Forecast Discussion
National Weather Service Green Bay WI
511 PM CST Wed Nov 15 2017 Updated aviation portion for 00Z TAF issuance .SHORT TERM...Tonight and Thursday Issued at 158 PM CST Wed Nov 15 2017 The latest RAP analysis and satellite/radar imagery show low pressure centered over the eastern Upper Peninsula and a cold front extending south from the low across eastern Wisconsin early this afternoon. A secondary cold front is moving across northwest Wisconsin. With help from a shortwave, an area of showers is moving northeast across the Fox Valley, while spotty drizzle persists over north-central WI under a low overcast deck. Temperatures are slowly falling over north-central WI, though remain in the middle to upper 30s. As temps fall into the lower 30s late this afternoon, some potential for drizzle to start freezing on roadways over north-central WI. But with road temps at or slightly above freezing, any freezing drizzle probably will be spotty in nature. Forecast concerns revolve around light precip across north-central WI tonight, and cloud trends. Tonight...While most shower activity will be exiting eastern WI by mid afternoon, light precip will be ongoing over north-central WI at the start of the evening. Lake effect processes will slowly ramp up through the evening as delta T`s fall into the mid teens. But marginal instability and lack of deep saturation, to go along with temps (and road temps) falling below freezing, will likely call for a mix of snow and freezing drizzle from early to mid evening until lake effect bands become better developed. Not out of the question that slippery roads could develop. A period of lake effect snow should then ensue from late evening into the overnight. Lake effect parameters are not ideal despite decent wind trajectories. Incoming mid-level dry air and marginal temps should keep accumulations in check, and will continue to go with an inch or two over northern Vilas county. For the rest of the area, delayed the clearing trend until late tonight, and even then it is questionable whether it will occur. Low temps ranging from the mid 20s in the north to low 30s near the lake. Thursday...Even though lake effect snow showers will mostly likely have retreated into the Upper Peninsula by early morning, its looking more likely that scattered to overcast skies will stick around for much of the morning. Some clearing should take place from late morning into the afternoon, but just when cirrus invades from the west. High temps will range from near 30 in the north to the upper 30s south. .LONG TERM...Thursday Night Through Wednesday Issued at 158 PM CST Wed Nov 15 2017 The main focus for the long term will be Thursday night through Friday for the wintry mix across the region as the next system passes through to start off the weekend. The kitchen sink remains for Thursday night into Friday morning. Recent models hold precipitation start off until around midnight, with enough cold air and possible saturation to start off with some light snow near Vilas County. The main challenge for this part of the forecast will the be the warm air advection around 800-600 mb and the development of an associated dry slot. Current depth of the dry layer is expected to be around 5000 feet which should be just enough to prevent seeder feeder mechanisms and keep freezing drizzle in the region for a portion of the morning in the north. Slick spots could therefore affect the morning commute on Friday as road temperatures ahead of the system remain well in the 20s. By around noon to the afternoon, saturation of much of the column will coincide with temperatures pushing into the middle 30s throughout, bringing light rain showers to most of the region into Friday evening. The next hurdle for the forecast will arrive early on Saturday as colder air follows behind the now retreating system. A switch back towards more frozen precipitation can be expected, especially in the northern portions of the forecast area. Models differ once again in the speed at which this system retreats, but a switch back to snow will be possible into Saturday afternoon. Can`t rule out another brief chance of sleet or freezing drizzle before this system is done. The remainder of Saturday will just see some chances of lake enhanced precipitation lingering in the far north towards Vilas County. Dry and calmer conditions follow on Sunday and Monday. The next system is shaping up to arrive Tuesday night to Wednesday with another chance for some rain or snow. Temperatures through the period will slip through the 30s Friday and Saturday with highs in the 20s on Sunday before returning to more seasonal conditions by next week. && .AVIATION...for 00Z TAF Issuance Issued at 511 PM CST Wed Nov 15 2017 Conditions expected to change little this evening with mainly MVFR cigs over east central Wisconsin to IFR conditions across north central and parts of central Wisconsin. A band of showers have departed east of far eastern Wisconsin late Wednesday afternoon, leaving mainly drizzle over areas south of highway 29 and a light mix of snow showers and light freezing drizzle over the north. Blustery west to northwest winds will continue overnight into early Thursday before subsiding later Thursday as a ridge of high pressure slides over. Cigs to gradually improve later tonight from west to east and then move to vfr conditions Thursday as the ridge builds in. Scattered snow showers will be on the increase over north central Wisconsin this evening as colder air on northwest winds pour over Lake Superior, then subside Thursday morning. && .MARINE... Issued at 158 PM CST Wed Nov 15 2017 Northwest winds behind a low pressure system remain on track to strengthen and become gusty by early this evening. Winds have been slow to ramp up this afternoon, and may struggle to reach 35 kt gales until later in the evening. On the other hand, the latest guidance suggest that the gale warning may need to be extended into Thu morning, but will let evening shifts first see how winds respond tonight. Another low pressure system could bring additional chances for gale force winds, first from the southwest on Friday ahead of the system, then from the northwest behind the system on Saturday. && .GRB WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... NONE. && $$ SHORT TERM.....MPC LONG TERM......Uhlmann AVIATION.......TDH MARINE.........MPC
Area Forecast Discussion
National Weather Service Jacksonville FL
809 PM EST Wed Nov 15 2017 .UPDATE...This evening GOES 16 shows extensive stratus deck along the First Coast into North Central Florida with clear skies across most of SE GA and interior NE Florida. Satellite shows some erosion of this layer across the western two thirds of Clay County, with HRRR showing further significant erosion of the layer from north to south between 10 pm and 1 am as coastal trof along NE FL slips further south along to the east central Florida coast. The inverted trough over the coastal waters will keep an enhanced pressure gradient through this evening, with winds diminishing slightly overnight as coastal trof starts to slip southward overnight. During the overnight hours, higher level cirroform clouds are expected to into the region associated with the passage of the upper level short wave trof moves through the region overnight. The cirrus is expected first to move through SE GA between midnight and 4 am and then advect southward into NE FL between 3 am and 7 am. Cirrus will exit NE FL during the early daylight hours as short wave trof moves into the adjacent Atlantic. && .AVIATION...MFR Cigs will continue to provide restrictions through 04z then erode from north to south after midnight. Improving VFR conditions are expected overnight with cirrus high clouds moving in then advecting offshore Wednesday with mostly clear skies for the rest of the day. && .MARINE... The combination of winds and seas will keep SCA conds over all the waters through early Thursday morning then with winds forecast to subside slightly during the day Thursday to 10 to 15 knots remaining out of the north. Northeast winds at 10 to 15 knots anticipated Friday. The high will move to the East on Saturday while a cold front moves into the Mid South turning winds to a southerly direction late morning /early afternoon and then south-southwest Saturday mid to late afternoon. This front will cross area waters Sunday. Rip Currents: Moderate risk on Thursday and Friday. && .PRELIMINARY POINT TEMPS/POPS... AMG 42 70 44 71 / 0 0 0 0 SSI 52 69 53 68 / 0 0 0 0 JAX 46 70 48 73 / 0 0 0 0 SGJ 54 67 55 72 / 0 0 0 0 GNV 47 72 47 76 / 0 0 0 0 OCF 50 74 49 77 / 0 0 0 0 && .JAX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... FL...None. GA...None. AM...Small Craft Advisory until 6 AM EST Thursday for Coastal waters from Altamaha Sound to Fernandina Beach FL out 20 NM- Coastal waters from Fernandina Beach to St. Augustine FL out 20 NM-Coastal waters from St. Augustine to Flagler Beach FL out 20 NM-Waters from Altamaha Sound GA to Fernandina Beach FL from 20 to 60 NM-Waters from Fernandina Beach to St. Augustine FL from 20 to 60 NM-Waters from St. Augustine to Flagler Beach FL from 20 to 60 NM. && $$ Cordero/Kennedy/McGinnis
Area Forecast Discussion
National Weather Service Reno NV
744 PM PST Wed Nov 15 2017 .UPDATE... The previous trends from an earlier update continue to hold. Snow levels are lower where the pcpn intensity is higher...not so much where pcpn is lighter. This is a common occurrence. But there is one anomaly right now. Light snow continues falling in far western Lassen County near Bogard. That area is seeing less pcpn intensity now...but it is likely that warm air advection has not returned to the area and driven snow levels up yet. There is another area of heavier pcpn well to the west that should impact western Lassen later tonight. Ahead of this...warmer air may briefly push snow levels above 7000 feet...but then they should fall again. Farther south into the Tahoe Basin...the northern part of the basin is seeing heavier pcpn at this point. Snow levels have dipped below 7000 feet as evidenced by snow over Donner Summit and a little lower on the western slope where lift and dynamic cooling are able to overcome warm air advection. We still feel that decreasing pcpn intensity will briefly allow snow levels to rise after about 9 pm for a short period of time before heavier pcpn moves back into the region after midnight. That should drop snow levels again or...at most...hold them steady. This is a struggle between advection of warm air and lift causing cooling. At times we see this manifest as an isothermal airmass that teeters between rain and snow. It all depends on the pcpn intensity. Model soundings still look too warm based on current trends so we have had to go cooler tonight and early Thursday. Winds remain an issue as well. The strongest wind gusts have decreased this evening...but that has more to do with moisture and spill over pcpn moving into western Nevada. This increased moisture and some instability help to dampen the winds. Winds are still rather strong into the southern portions of the basin and range country where moisture is not increasing as yet. That will happen later tomorrow. So we will continue to see periods of decreased winds overnight when pcpn does occur...but when the intensity or spill over decreases the winds will increase at the surface again. Bottom line: Snow level variations could result in higher totals in Lassen/Plumas counties down to 5500 feet and the Tahoe basin down to 6500 feet by the time the snow ends Friday morning. Periodic strong winds east of the Sierra support maintaining the warnings and advisories into Thursday. Updates out soon. && .PREVIOUS DISCUSSION... /Issued 514 PM PST Wed Nov 15 2017/ UPDATE... Recent web cam images show snow falling and accumulating at Bogard Rest Area in far western Lassen County. Snow is also falling at Donner Summit in the Tahoe Basin and near Chester in Plumas County. This is a little lower than we had originally forecast. But...this may be just a temporary condition owing more to precipitation intensity than an overall lowering of snow levels due to encroaching colder air. In fact...forecast soundings would have one believe that snow levels should be steady or rising from late afternoon into the early evening. Now...the models often struggle with snow levels...so this is not a unique case. Radar imagery indicates a lessening of precipitation intensity this evening. This is likely to allow snow levels to rise again. The latest HRRR shows an increase in precipitation again later tonight. We will show a drop in snow levels early this evening followed be rises after about 7-8 pm. Then we will indicate falls again later tonight. This will change snow accumulations a little across parts of Lassen and Plumas counties...but not enough to change the winter storm warning as yet. Some of the lowest areas with snow (below 6000 feet) may see little accumulation. PREVIOUS DISCUSSION... /Issued 109 PM PST Wed Nov 15 2017/ SYNOPSIS... A strong atmospheric river storm will impact the region through Thursday. Strong and damaging winds are expected this afternoon across western Nevada along with high wildfire danger before precipitation arrives. Precipitation will continue to intensify this afternoon through Thursday. A cold front will drop snow levels Thursday and will provide heavy spillover rainfall for western Nevada. SHORT TERM... The first significant atmospheric river event of the season is just starting to move into the west. Light rain and high elevation snow is falling throughout northeast California, the Sierra and western Nevada. Precipitation will only intensify over the next 36 hours with snow levels a bit slower to fall. Winds are slowly starting to pick up, with the strongest winds anticipated this afternoon through Thursday afternoon. Here is what has changed: * Increased QPF (liquid precipitation) totals along the Sierra crest. NCAR ensemble guidance is showing a 70% chance for localized areas of 10" of liquid over a 48 hour period along the central Sierra crest. In addition, model guidance continued to trend upward in liquid totals. * An areal flood watch was issued for portions of northeast California, the Sierra, and the western Nevada Sierra Front. While mainstem river flooding is not expected, significant rises are likely. Small creeks and streams along with poor drainage areas in urban areas and recent burn scars may see minor flooding. While not in the watch, Hardscrabble Creek will also bear monitoring. * Extended the strong winds through Thursday night. Winds will be periodically be dampened out by the heavier precipitation, but are expected to continue to be gusty. The High Wind Warnings will be extended by 12 hours through Thursday afternoon. What we have confidence in: * Strong, potentially damaging winds for the Sierra Front and along the I-590/Hwy 395 corridor. The strongest winds are anticipated this afternoon through Thursday afternoon, though gusty winds will continue through Thursday night. * Period of moderate to heavy rain with significant snowfall for areas above 8000 feet. The peak intensity will be tonight through Thursday evening. * Liquid totals of 7-8" look likely along the Sierra crest with 2-4" through the Tahoe Basin. 1-3" is possible for the western Nevada Sierra Front and the Highway 395 corridor in Mono County. 0.25"- 0.50" is possible across the Basin and Range including areas such as Lovelock and Fallon. * Snow totals above 8000 feet could easily reach 2-4 feet with local amounts over 5 feet possible. The character of the snow will be heavy and wet. Possible forecast problems: * How quickly snow levels will fall. Guidance has been slower in bringing the cold front through, however the heavier precipitation rates may drag snow levels down faster. Snow totals below 8000 feet have a big boom or bust potential. Some ensemble guidance in the 6000-7000 foot elevation range shows anywhere from a few inches upwards of 3 feet of snow being possible depending on snow level timing. * While no mainstem river flooding is expected at this time, significant rises are likely. This will be the first true test of the hydrologic system this season. If snow levels stay up longer and liquid totals are higher than forecast it is possible there may be additional hydrologic concerns. -Dawn LONG TERM...Saturday through next week A quiet weekend will be followed by another storm early next week. There is still quite a bit of variability with this storm for next week, but there is potential for another round of valley rain and mountain snows. Lower forecast confidence for how travel will be pre and post Thanksgiving for next week as well. The Monday-Tuesday storm continues to have variable snow level scenarios, ranging from near 6000 feet to above 9000 feet. We are still leaning toward the warmer side of the guidance range (snow levels likely above 8000 feet) as the downstream longwave pattern continues to favor a deeper trough over the eastern US, which typically keeps the west milder. The strength of this system and precipitation amounts also vary with the guidance sources, as the warmer scenarios may tap into a deeper source of subtropical moisture and produce a period of enhanced rainfall, especially north of I-80. After this storm pushes through, the overall trend favors a few dry days leading into Thanksgiving as high pressure ridge builds from the southwest US into the Great Basin. While there are still some uncertainties with next week`s weather pattern, at this time there do not appear to be significant weather impacts for the early part of the Thanksgiving holiday peak travel period. ELW/MJD AVIATION... Winds will continue to increase this afternoon, with winds lasting through Thursday night. LLWS will be likely as southerly winds develop across valleys and southwest ridge level winds increase to 55-70 kts with gusts approaching 90kt. The critical period for winds will be through 00z Friday (late Thursday afternoon), especially for the eastern Sierra along the Highway 395 corridor extending out to Hwy 95. Sustained winds 25-35 kts with gusts to 50 kts will be widespread and there could even be a period of stronger winds from Reno south toward KMMH this afternoon and evening. Rain and high elevation snow will continue to intensify this evening through Thursday. As this rain band shifts southward overnight, surface winds will ease although they will remain fairly steady. Also ridge level winds are going to remain strong and turbulence will persist. Moderate to occasionally heavy rain in the Tahoe Basin will push CIGS/VSBY down to MVFR levels tonight into Thursday morning. This band of rain will shift southward into the eastern Sierra of Mono County for Thursday with lowering CIGS/VSBY at KMMH. As far as snowfall, accumulation is going to be limited to later Thursday and Thursday night as snow levels will be a bit slower to fall tonight and early Thursday than previously thought. A couple inches are possible at KTRK/KTVL Thursday night with lesser confidence in an inch or two at KMMH. -Dawn/Hohmann && .REV Watches/Warnings/Advisories... NV...Flood Watch through Thursday evening NVZ002-003. High Wind Warning until 4 PM PST Thursday NVZ003-005. Winter Storm Warning until 4 AM PST Friday above 7000 feet in NVZ002. Wind Advisory until 4 PM PST Thursday NVZ001-004. CA...Flood Watch through Thursday evening CAZ071>073. Winter Storm Warning until 4 AM PST Friday above 6000 feet in CAZ071. High Wind Warning until 4 PM PST Thursday CAZ070. Winter Storm Warning until 4 AM PST Friday above 8000 feet in CAZ073. Winter Storm Warning until 4 AM PST Friday above 7000 feet in CAZ072. && $$ For more information from the National Weather Service visit... http://weather.gov/reno