Forecast Discussions mentioning any of "HRRR" "RAP" "RR" "RUC13" "RUC" received at GSD on 11/22/12


AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS TAMPA BAY RUSKIN FL
845 PM EST WED NOV 21 2012 .UPDATE... 01Z WATER VAPOR AND H4 RAP ANALYSIS SHOWS AN AMPLIFIED UPPER LEVEL TROUGH OVER THE SE CONUS COAST. THE TROUGH AXIS NOW EAST OF OUR FORECAST AREA AND CONTINUING TO EXIT. IMPRESSIVE DEEP LAYER SUBSIDENCE BEHIND THIS TROUGH IS SHOWN IN THE GFS/ECMWF QVECTOR DIVERGENCE FIELDS AND IN AN EXPANDING AREA OF VERY DRY MID/UPPER LEVEL AIR OVER THE REGION ON WV IMAGERY. 00Z KTBW SOUNDING PROFILE HAS SAMPLED THIS DRY AIR QUITE WELL WITH IMPRESSIVE DEWPOINT DEPRESSION ABOVE 800MB THROUGH THE EXTENT OF THE TROPOSPHERE. PW VALUES HAS CONTINUED TO DROP AND IS NOW ONLY AROUND 0.6". THE DRY COLUMN HAS ALLOWED SKIES TO CLEAR ACROSS THE REGION AND CLEAR TO MOSTLY CLEAR SKIES WILL BE THE FORECAST THROUGH YOUR THANKSGIVING DAY. TEMPERATURES OVERNIGHT WILL BECOME RATHER COOL/CHILLY BY SUNRISE WITH MANY LOCATIONS AWAY FROM THE IMMEDIATE COAST DROPPING INTO THE UPPER 40S TO AROUND 50. NORMALLY COLDER LOCATIONS FROM BROOKSVILLE NORTHWARD TO LEVY COUNTY MAY BRIEFLY DIP INTO THE LOWER/MID 40S BY SUNRISE. DESPITE THE COOL EARLY MORNING TEMPS...NEAR 100% OF THE POSSIBLE INSOLATION DURING THE DAY ON THURSDAY WILL HELP TEMPERATURES RECOVER BACK TO AROUND 70 NORTH AND THE LOWER/MID 70S SOUTH OF TAMPA BAY. THESE TEMPS ARE STILL SEVERAL DEGREES BELOW NORMAL BUT IN THE SEASONABLE RANGE. A LIGHT JACKET MAY REMAIN A GOOD IDEA FOR ANY OUTDOOR FESTIVITIES ON THURSDAY AS A BRISK NORTH WIND WILL MAKE IT FEEL A BIT COOLER. PLUS...ONCE WE PASS 5PM...AND THE SUN STARTS TO SINK TOWARD THE HORIZON...A GOOD RADIATIONAL COOLING SETUP WILL ALLOW TEMPS TO FALL RATHER QUICKLY FOR ANY EVENING ACTIVITIES. ENJOY! && .AVIATION... VFR CONDITIONS EXPECTED THROUGH THE TAF PERIOD. WINDS BECOMING GUSTY BY LATE THURSDAY MORNING TO AROUND 20 KNOTS AT TIMES OUT OF THE NORTH. WINDS DIMINISHING THURSDAY EVENING WITH SUNSET. && .MARINE... LOCAL GRADIENT WILL REMAIN TIGHT OVER THE EASTERN GULF OF MEXICO BETWEEN A RIDGE OF HIGH PRESSURE ALONG THE NORTHERN GULF COAST AND AN ELONGATED AREA OF LOW PRESSURE OFF THE GEORGIA/CAROLINA COASTLINE. NORTHERLY WINDS OVERNIGHT WILL COME VEER MORE TO THE NORTHEAST FOR THE DAY ON THURSDAY. WINDS WILL REACH EXERCISE CAUTION LEVELS AT TIMES THROUGH THURSDAY EVENING BEFORE WINDS DIMINISH FOR FRIDAY. && .PRELIMINARY POINT TEMPS/POPS... TPA 53 72 50 73 / 0 0 0 10 FMY 52 73 50 75 / 0 0 0 0 GIF 49 71 48 71 / 0 0 0 10 SRQ 52 73 50 73 / 0 0 0 0 BKV 43 71 39 73 / 0 0 0 10 SPG 56 71 55 71 / 0 0 0 10 && .TBW WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... FL...FIRE WEATHER WATCH THURSDAY AFTERNOON FOR LEE-PINELLAS- SARASOTA. GULF WATERS...NONE. && $$ UPDATE/MARINE...MROCZKA AVIATION...CLOSE
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS CHARLESTON SC
629 AM EST TUE NOV 20 2012 .SYNOPSIS... THE REGION WILL REMAIN BETWEEN HIGH PRESSURE EXTENDING FROM NEW ENGLAND TO THE LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY AND LOW PRESSURE OVER THE WESTERN ATLANTIC THROUGH THURSDAY. A COLD FRONT WILL THEN APPROACH FROM THE NORTHWEST LATE FRIDAY INTO SATURDAY...WITH HIGH PRESSURE REBUILDING FROM THE WEST EARLY NEXT WEEK. && .NEAR TERM /UNTIL 6 PM THIS EVENING/... NO MAJOR CHANGES WERE MADE FOR THE SUNRISE UPDATE. MADE MINOR ADJUSTMENTS TO THE TIMING AND SOUTHWESTERN EXTENT OF LOW CLOUDS MOVING ACROSS THE CHARLESTON TRI-COUNTY AREA. HIGH PRESSURE WILL REMAIN ANCHORED OVER THE REGION TODAY AS A LARGE OCEANIC STORM MEANDERS WELL OF THE U.S. EAST COAST. A FAIRLY ZONAL FLOW WILL DOMINATE ALOFT AS SHORTWAVE ENERGY OVER THE NORTHERN MISSISSIPPI VALLEY BEGINS TO DIG SOUTH. THERE IS MUCH UNCERTAINTY ON HOW MUCH CLOUD COVER WILL OCCUR TODAY. CIRRUS BEING ENHANCED BY THE LEFT EXIT REGION OF A 115 KT JET STREAK WILL OVERSPREAD THE AREA FROM THE WEST LATER TODAY AS THE SUBTROPICAL JET AXIS DROPS FARTHER TO THE SOUTH AND EAST. MEANWHILE LOW CLOUDS SPREADING SOUTHWEST OUT OF NORTH CAROLINA ARE POISED TO MOVE INTO THE CHARLESTON TRI-COUNTY AREA BY SUNRISE. 975MB RUC MOISTURE PROGS SUGGEST MUCH OF THIS LOW-LEVEL CLOUD COVER WILL MIX OUT LATER THIS MORNING AS TEMPERATURES WARM WITH SKIES BECOMING PARTLY CLOUDY LATER TODAY ACROSS A GOOD PORTION OF THE AREA. HOWEVER...THERE REMAINS MUCH UNCERTAINTY ON EXACTLY HOW THE SKY COVER FORECAST WILL PLAY OUT WITH SOME GUIDANCE SUGGESTING SKIES WILL REMAIN MOSTLY CLOUDY FOR A GOOD PORTION OF THE DAY. LATER SHIFTS WILL MOST CERTAINLY HAVE TO MADE SOME ADJUSTMENTS AS THE DAY PROGRESSES. HIGHS WILL TOP OUT IN THE MID-UPPER 60S... WARMEST ACROSS THE SOUTH. && .SHORT TERM /6 PM THIS EVENING THROUGH FRIDAY NIGHT/... TONIGHT...SIMILAR TO MONDAY EVENING...SKIES SHOULD CLEAR A BIT WITH THE LOSS OF INSOLATION. MORE RAPID CLEARING IS EXPECTED TO OCCUR AFTER MIDNIGHT AS THE CORE OF THE AFOREMENTIONED SHORTWAVE DIGS TO THE WEST AND SOUTH...THUS SHUNTING THE SUBTROPICAL JET FAR TO THE SOUTH. EXPECT MOSTLY CLEAR SKIES TO DOMINATE BETWEEN MIDNIGHT AND SUNRISE WEDNESDAY. THE BOUNDARY LAYER SHOULD DECOUPLE FAIRLY QUICKLY THIS EVENING. CALM/LIGHT WINDS COUPLED WITH CLEARING SKIES WILL YIELD IMPROVING RADIATIONAL CONDITIONS OVERNIGHT. LOWS WILL RANGE FROM THE LOWER 40S WELL INLAND TO THE UPPER 40S AT THE COAST. WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAY...AN AMPLIFIED UPPER TROUGH WILL CROSS THE EAST COAST STATES WEDNESDAY MORNING AND MOVE OFFSHORE LATER IN THE DAY. WHILE THE DEPARTING UPPER TROUGH STRENGTHENS THE ATLANTIC SURFACE LOW FAR OUT TO SEA...SURFACE HIGH PRESSURE AND UPPER RIDGING WILL BUILD IN FROM THE WEST. HIGH PRESSURE AT THE SURFACE AND ALOFT WILL THEN DOMINATE THE PATTERN OVER THE LAND AREAS THROUGH THURSDAY. LACKING ANY DEEP MOISTURE AS THE UPPER TROUGH PASSES THE REGION WEDNESDAY...FOLLOWED BY LITTLE UPPER LEVEL SUPPORT IN ITS WAKE...EXPECT DRY WEATHER TO PREVAIL THROUGH AT LEAST THURSDAY. HIGH TEMPERATURES WILL TREND BACK UP TOWARD SEASONAL NORMALS...REACHING THE MID TO UPPER 60S EACH AFTERNOON. NIGHTTIME LOW TEMPERATURES WILL ACTUALLY FALL BELOW NORMAL...AS DECOUPLING WINDS AND CLEAR SKIES SUPPORT IDEAL RADIATIONAL COOLING. LOW TEMPERATURES WEDNESDAY NIGHT WILL RANGE FROM AROUND 40 DEGREES WELL INLAND TO THE MID 40S NEAR THE COAST...AND THEN FALL TO EVEN COOLER LEVELS THURSDAY NIGHT IN THE UPPER 30S TO AROUND 40S MOST LOCATIONS AWAY FROM THE IMMEDIATE COAST. FRIDAY...AN UPPER LOW WELL TO THE NORTH WILL MOVE ACROSS THE GREAT LAKES REGION AND INTO THE NEW ENGLAND STATES LATE IN THE WEEK. THE RIDGING ALOFT WILL BREAK DOWN AHEAD OF THE MAIN TROUGH AXIS...ALLOWING A COLD FRONT TO RAPIDLY APPROACH FROM THE NORTHWEST. WEST TO NORTHWEST FLOW REMAIN PROMINENT THROUGHOUT THE PROFILE AS THE FRONT NEARS THE REGION...SUGGESTING THE FEATURE WILL LACK A DECENT TAP INTO MOISTURE. THUS EXPECT DRY CONDITIONS TO CONTINUE INTO FRIDAY. HIGH TEMPERATURES FRIDAY AFTERNOON COULD BE THE WARMEST OF THE PERIOD...LIKELY DUE TO PRE-FRONTAL COMPRESSION AND WINDS BRIEFLY BACKING TO THE SOUTHWEST. && .LONG TERM /SATURDAY THROUGH MONDAY/... A COLD FRONT WILL DROP SOUTHEAST THROUGH THE FORECAST AREA LATE FRIDAY INTO EARLY SATURDAY...AS AN UPPER TROUGH CROSSES THE MID ATLANTIC COASTLINE BY SATURDAY AFTERNOON. ALTHOUGH THE FRONT IS NOT EXPECTED TO BRING PRECIPITATION TO THE AREA...STRONG COLD ADVECTION WILL FOLLOW IN ITS WAKE THROUGH THE WEEKEND. HIGH TEMPERATURES ON SATURDAY WILL BE IN THE MID TO UPPER 60S...THEN TREND EVEN COOLER IN THE LOWER 60S FOR SUNDAY AFTERNOON. BROAD SURFACE HIGH PRESSURE WILL STEADILY SLIP FROM THE LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY TOWARD THE SOUTHEAST STATES THROUGH SUNDAY WITHIN PROGRESSIVE ZONAL FLOW ALOFT. ANOTHER LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM WILL APPROACH FROM THE WEST MONDAY THROUGH TUESDAY...BUT TIMING AND IMPACTS ARE TOO UNCERTAIN THIS FAR OUT. WILL THUS MAINTAIN RAIN CHANCES LESS THAN 15 PERCENT THROUGH THE EXTENDED PERIOD. && .AVIATION /12Z TUESDAY THROUGH SATURDAY/... KCHS...LOW CLOUDS ARE ON THE CUSP OF MOVING ACROSS THE TERMINAL. EXPECT LOW-END MVFR CIGS OF 1000-1200 FT TO OCCUR THROUGH ABOUT 15Z AFTER WHICH RAP SOUNDING SHOW THE LOW CLOUD DECK MIXING OUT. EXPECT VFR TO PREVAIL THROUGH THE REMAINDER OF THE 12Z TAF PERIOD ONCE THIS OCCURS. THERE IS A CHANCE THAT CIGS MAY BRIEFLY DROP TO IFR...BUT PROBABILITIES REMAIN FAIRLY LOW AND THERE ARE NO INDICATIONS THAT CIGS WILL DROP BELOW ALTERNATE MINIMUMS. KSAV...VFR. EXTENDED AVIATION OUTLOOK...THERE NO SIGNIFICANT ISSUES. && .MARINE... TODAY...THE MARINE AREA WILL SEE IMPROVING CONDITIONS THROUGH THE DAY. SEAS STILL LOOK TO REMAIN ABOVE 6 FT ACROSS THE CHARLESTON COUNTY COASTAL WATERS UNTIL LATE MORNING SO FLAGS WILL BE EXTENDED BY A FEW HOURS WITH SEAS 2-4 FT OVER THE REMAINING NEARSHORE LEGS. SEAS OF 6-8 FT ARE FORECAST TO REMAIN OVER THE GEORGIA OFFSHORE WATERS THROUGH THE AFTERNOON SO A SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY WILL REMAIN IN FORCE THERE. TONIGHT...SHOULD SEE A BIT OF AN INCREASE IN WINDS OVERNIGHT IN RESPONSE TO SHORTWAVE ENERGY APPROACHING FROM THE WEST. SPEEDS SHOULD BE NO HIGHER 15-20 KT OVER THE OFFSHORE WATERS WITH 10-15 KT CLOSER TO THE COAST. SEAS WILL RANGE FROM 2-4 FT NEARSHORE WATERS TO 5-7 FT OFFSHORE WATERS. A SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY WILL REMAIN IN EFFECT OVERNIGHT FOR THE GEORGIA OFFSHORE LEG. WEDNESDAY THROUGH SATURDAY...WINDS AND SEAS WILL REMAIN ELEVATED THROUGH MID WEEK...AS THE PRESSURE GRADIENT REMAINS ENHANCED OVER THE WATERS BETWEEN BROAD HIGH PRESSURE INLAND AND A LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM FARTHER OUT IN THE ATLANTIC. WINDS AND SEAS WILL REMAIN BELOW SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY THRESHOLDS FOR NEARSHORE WATERS. HOWEVER A COMBINATION OF NORTH/NORTHEAST WINDS...LONG PERIOD SWELLS AND COLD ADVECTION ASSOCIATED WITH BUILDING HIGH PRESSURE FROM THE WEST WILL ALLOW SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY CONDITIONS TO PERSIST OVER OUTER GEORGIA WATERS THROUGH MID WEEK AND POSSIBLY THROUGH LATE WEEK. CONDITIONS WILL THEN SLOWLY IMPROVE OVER ALL WATERS LATE WEEK...AS THE LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM SHIFTS FURTHER OFFSHORE AND THE PRESSURE GRADIENT WEAKENS ACCORDINGLY. && .CHS WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... GA...NONE. SC...NONE. MARINE...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY UNTIL 6 PM EST SATURDAY FOR AMZ374. SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY UNTIL 11 AM EST THIS MORNING FOR AMZ350. && $$ ST/79
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS CHARLESTON SC
358 AM EST TUE NOV 20 2012 .SYNOPSIS... THE REGION WILL REMAIN BETWEEN HIGH PRESSURE EXTENDING FROM NEW ENGLAND TO THE LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY AND LOW PRESSURE OVER THE WESTERN ATLANTIC THROUGH THURSDAY. A COLD FRONT WILL THEN APPROACH FROM THE NORTHWEST LATE FRIDAY INTO SATURDAY...WITH HIGH PRESSURE REBUILDING FROM THE WEST EARLY NEXT WEEK. && .NEAR TERM /THROUGH TODAY/... HIGH PRESSURE WILL REMAIN ANCHORED OVER THE REGION TODAY AS A LARGE OCEANIC STORM MEANDERS WELL OF THE U.S. EAST COAST. A FAIRLY ZONAL FLOW WILL DOMINATE ALOFT AS SHORTWAVE ENERGY OVER THE NORTHERN MISSISSIPPI VALLEY BEGINS TO DIG SOUTH. THERE IS MUCH UNCERTAINTY ON HOW MUCH CLOUD COVER WILL OCCUR TODAY. CIRRUS BEING ENHANCED BY THE LEFT EXIT REGION OF A 115 KT JET STREAK WILL OVERSPREAD THE AREA FROM THE WEST LATER TODAY AS THE SUBTROPICAL JET AXIS DROPS FARTHER TO THE SOUTH AND EAST. MEANWHILE LOW CLOUDS SPREADING SOUTHWEST OUT OF NORTH CAROLINA ARE POISED TO MOVE INTO THE CHARLESTON TRI-COUNTY AREA BY SUNRISE. 975MB RUC MOISTURE PROGS SUGGEST MUCH OF THIS LOW-LEVEL CLOUD COVER WILL MIX OUT LATER THIS MORNING AS TEMPERATURES WARM WITH SKIES BECOMING PARTLY CLOUDY LATER TODAY ACROSS A GOOD PORTION OF THE AREA. HOWEVER...THERE REMAINS MUCH UNCERTAINTY ON EXACTLY HOW THE SKY COVER FORECAST WILL PLAY OUT WITH SOME GUIDANCE SUGGESTING SKIES WILL REMAIN MOSTLY CLOUDY FOR A GOOD PORTION OF THE DAY. LATER SHIFTS WILL MOST CERTAINLY HAVE TO MADE SOME ADJUSTMENTS AS THE DAY PROGRESSES. HIGHS WILL TOP OUT IN THE MID-UPPER 60S... WARMEST ACROSS THE SOUTH. && .SHORT TERM /TONIGHT THROUGH FRIDAY NIGHT/... TONIGHT...SIMILAR TO MONDAY EVENING...SKIES SHOULD CLEAR A BIT WITH THE LOSS OF INSOLATION. MORE RAPID CLEARING IS EXPECTED TO OCCUR AFTER MIDNIGHT AS THE CORE OF THE AFOREMENTIONED SHORTWAVE DIGS TO THE WEST AND SOUTH...THUS SHUNTING THE SUBTROPICAL JET FAR TO THE SOUTH. EXPECT MOSTLY CLEAR SKIES TO DOMINATE BETWEEN MIDNIGHT AND SUNRISE WEDNESDAY. THE BOUNDARY LAYER SHOULD DECOUPLE FAIRLY QUICKLY THIS EVENING. CALM/LIGHT WINDS COUPLED WITH CLEARING SKIES WILL YIELD IMPROVING RADIATIONAL CONDITIONS OVERNIGHT. LOWS WILL RANGE FROM THE LOWER 40S WELL INLAND TO THE UPPER 40S AT THE COAST. WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAY...AN AMPLIFIED UPPER TROUGH WILL CROSS THE EAST COAST STATES WEDNESDAY MORNING AND MOVE OFFSHORE LATER IN THE DAY. WHILE THE DEPARTING UPPER TROUGH STRENGTHENS THE ATLANTIC SURFACE LOW FAR OUT TO SEA...SURFACE HIGH PRESSURE AND UPPER RIDGING WILL BUILD IN FROM THE WEST. HIGH PRESSURE AT THE SURFACE AND ALOFT WILL THEN DOMINATE THE PATTERN OVER THE LAND AREAS THROUGH THURSDAY. LACKING ANY DEEP MOISTURE AS THE UPPER TROUGH PASSES THE REGION WEDNESDAY...FOLLOWED BY LITTLE UPPER LEVEL SUPPORT IN ITS WAKE...EXPECT DRY WEATHER TO PREVAIL THROUGH AT LEAST THURSDAY. HIGH TEMPERATURES WILL TREND BACK UP TOWARD SEASONAL NORMALS...REACHING THE MID TO UPPER 60S EACH AFTERNOON. NIGHTTIME LOW TEMPERATURES WILL ACTUALLY FALL BELOW NORMAL...AS DECOUPLING WINDS AND CLEAR SKIES SUPPORT IDEAL RADIATIONAL COOLING. LOW TEMPERATURES WEDNESDAY NIGHT WILL RANGE FROM AROUND 40 DEGREES WELL INLAND TO THE MID 40S NEAR THE COAST...AND THEN FALL TO EVEN COOLER LEVELS THURSDAY NIGHT IN THE UPPER 30S TO AROUND 40S MOST LOCATIONS AWAY FROM THE IMMEDIATE COAST. FRIDAY...AN UPPER LOW WELL TO THE NORTH WILL MOVE ACROSS THE GREAT LAKES REGION AND INTO THE NEW ENGLAND STATES LATE IN THE WEEK. THE RIDGING ALOFT WILL BREAK DOWN AHEAD OF THE MAIN TROUGH AXIS...ALLOWING A COLD FRONT TO RAPIDLY APPROACH FROM THE NORTHWEST. WEST TO NORTHWEST FLOW REMAIN PROMINENT THROUGHOUT THE PROFILE AS THE FRONT NEARS THE REGION...SUGGESTING THE FEATURE WILL LACK A DECENT TAP INTO MOISTURE. THUS EXPECT DRY CONDITIONS TO CONTINUE INTO FRIDAY. HIGH TEMPERATURES FRIDAY AFTERNOON COULD BE THE WARMEST OF THE PERIOD...LIKELY DUE TO PRE-FRONTAL COMPRESSION AND WINDS BRIEFLY BACKING TO THE SOUTHWEST. && .LONG TERM /SATURDAY THROUGH MONDAY/... A COLD FRONT WILL DROP SOUTHEAST THROUGH THE FORECAST AREA LATE FRIDAY INTO EARLY SATURDAY...AS AN UPPER TROUGH CROSSES THE MID ATLANTIC COASTLINE BY SATURDAY AFTERNOON. ALTHOUGH THE FRONT IS NOT EXPECTED TO BRING PRECIPITATION TO THE AREA...STRONG COLD ADVECTION WILL FOLLOW IN ITS WAKE THROUGH THE WEEKEND. HIGH TEMPERATURES ON SATURDAY WILL BE IN THE MID TO UPPER 60S...THEN TREND EVEN COOLER IN THE LOWER 60S FOR SUNDAY AFTERNOON. BROAD SURFACE HIGH PRESSURE WILL STEADILY SLIP FROM THE LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY TOWARD THE SOUTHEAST STATES THROUGH SUNDAY WITHIN PROGRESSIVE ZONAL FLOW ALOFT. ANOTHER LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM WILL APPROACH FROM THE WEST MONDAY THROUGH TUESDAY...BUT TIMING AND IMPACTS ARE TOO UNCERTAIN THIS FAR OUT. WILL THUS MAINTAIN RAIN CHANCES LESS THAN 15 PERCENT THROUGH THE EXTENDED PERIOD. && .AVIATION /07Z TUESDAY THROUGH SATURDAY/... IT NOW APPEARS LOW CLOUDS STREAMING IN FROM NORTH CAROLINA AND THE PEE DEE WILL REACH KCHS ROUGHLY BETWEEN 10-11Z. THIS WILL RESULT IN PERIOD OF LOW-END MVFR CIGS THROUGH ABOUT 15Z. WHILE A BRIEF STINT TO HIGH-END IFR CAN NOT BE RULED OUT...THEY SHOULD REMAIN ABOVE THE TERMINAL/S ALTERNATE MINIMUMS. STILL EXPECT VFR CONDITIONS AT KSAV WITH THESE CLOUDS REMAINING TO THE NORTH. EXTENDED AVIATION OUTLOOK...THERE NO SIGNIFICANT ISSUES. && .MARINE... TODAY...THE MARINE AREA WILL SEE IMPROVING CONDITIONS THROUGH THE DAY. SEAS STILL LOOK TO REMAIN ABOVE 6 FT ACROSS THE CHARLESTON COUNTY COASTAL WATERS UNTIL LATE MORNING SO FLAGS WILL BE EXTENDED BY A FEW HOURS WITH SEAS 2-4 FT OVER THE REMAINING NEARSHORE LEGS. SEAS OF 6-8 FT ARE FORECAST TO REMAIN OVER THE GEORGIA OFFSHORE WATERS THROUGH THE AFTERNOON SO A SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY WILL REMAIN IN FORCE THERE. TONIGHT...SHOULD SEE A BIT OF AN INCREASE IN WINDS OVERNIGHT IN RESPONSE TO SHORTWAVE ENERGY APPROACHING FROM THE WEST. SPEEDS SHOULD BE NO HIGHER 15-20 KT OVER THE OFFSHORE WATERS WITH 10-15 KT CLOSER TO THE COAST. SEAS WILL RANGE FROM 2-4 FT NEARSHORE WATERS TO 5-7 FT OFFSHORE WATERS. A SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY WILL REMAIN IN EFFECT OVERNIGHT FOR THE GEORGIA OFFSHORE LEG. WEDNESDAY THROUGH SATURDAY...WINDS AND SEAS WILL REMAIN ELEVATED THROUGH MID WEEK...AS THE PRESSURE GRADIENT REMAINS ENHANCED OVER THE WATERS BETWEEN BROAD HIGH PRESSURE INLAND AND A LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM FARTHER OUT IN THE ATLANTIC. WINDS AND SEAS WILL REMAIN BELOW SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY THRESHOLDS FOR NEARSHORE WATERS. HOWEVER A COMBINATION OF NORTH/NORTHEAST WINDS...LONG PERIOD SWELLS AND COLD ADVECTION ASSOCIATED WITH BUILDING HIGH PRESSURE FROM THE WEST WILL ALLOW SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY CONDITIONS TO PERSIST OVER OUTER GEORGIA WATERS THROUGH MID WEEK AND POSSIBLY THROUGH LATE WEEK. CONDITIONS WILL THEN SLOWLY IMPROVE OVER ALL WATERS LATE WEEK...AS THE LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM SHIFTS FURTHER OFFSHORE AND THE PRESSURE GRADIENT WEAKENS ACCORDINGLY. && .CHS WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... GA...NONE. SC...NONE. MARINE...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY UNTIL 6 PM EST SATURDAY FOR AMZ374. SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY UNTIL 11 AM EST THIS MORNING FOR AMZ350. && $$ ST/79
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS DES MOINES IA
330 PM CST TUE NOV 20 2012 .SHORT TERM /TONIGHT/... SFC HIGH CENTERED FROM SRN IA SOUTHWESTWARD TO SLIDE EAST SOUTHEAST TONIGHT...WITH SOUTHERLY FLOW AND WAA KICKING IN ALOFT. MOSTLY CLEAR SKIES EXPECTED TONIGHT WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE FAR EAST...WHERE LOW STRATUS/FOG THAT IS CURRENTLY ACROSS SOUTHEASTERN IOWA EXPECTED TO BUILD BACK WEST/NORTHWARD THIS EVENING. THEREFORE LOW CLOUDS/FOG POSSIBLE FROM WATERLOO TO MARSHALLTOWN TO OTTUMWA OVERNIGHT...BASED ON THE HRRR OUTPUT FOR LOW CLOUDS. AS SFC RIDGE AXIS PUSHES THROUGH THE AREA AND WAA/SOUTHERLY FLOW INCREASES EXPECT MIN TEMPS TO START LEVELING OFF/POSSIBLY WARMING TOWARD SUNRISE. .LONG TERM /TONIGHT THROUGH TUESDAY/... HIGH PRESSURE WILL SHIFT OFF TO THE SOUTHEAST ON WEDNESDAY AS A BROAD AREA OF HIGH PRESSURE MOVES INTO THE DAKOTAS. THIS WILL INCREASE THE SOUTHERLY FLOW INTO IOWA AS THE THERMAL RIDGE LEANS INTO THE STATE. THESE CONDITIONS ALONG WITH VERY DRY AIR WILL BE CONDUCIVE TO GOOD WARMING. AN INVERSION NEAR 900 MB APPEARS TO BE A LIMITING FACTOR FROM ACHIEVING RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURES IN THE LOWER 70S HOWEVER EVEN IF THE INVERSION HOLDS...SUPER ADIABATIC LAPSE NEAR SURFACE SHOULD PUSH READINGS INTO THE MID TO UPPER 60S. THE THERMAL RIDGE STRENGTHENS WEDNESDAY NIGHT WITH SOUTHERLY WINDS CONTINUING. LOWS WILL BE WELL INTO THE 40S AT MOST LOCATIONS. THURSDAY WILL HAVE A WARM START WITH A COLD FRONT EXPECTED TO PASS THROUGH CENTRAL IOWA DURING THE AFTERNOON. AN SHORT WAVE WILL LIFT UP THROUGH THE SOUTHWEST FLOW AHEAD OF THE BOUNDARY AND WILL BRING THE CHANCE FOR A FEW SHOWERS OVER THE FAR SOUTHEAST. THE NMM AND ARW BASED MODELS ARE FARTHER SOUTHEAST WITH THIS SYSTEM THOUGH THE ECMWF AND GFS AFFECT IOWA MORE. GENERALLY ANY PRECIPITATION WILL BE LIGHT. THIS SYSTEM COULD BRING AN INCREASE IN CLOUDS AND MAY LIMIT TEMPERATURES A BIT. CENTRAL AND SOUTHEAST IOWA SHOULD REACH THE 60S BEFORE THE COLD FRONT PASSES THROUGH. STRONGER COLD ADVECTION NEAR 850 MB WILL ENHANCE MIXING BEHIND THE FRONTAL BOUNDARY WITH INCREASING SUBSIDENCE AIDING MOMENTUM TRANSFER OF WINDS TO THE SURFACE. MIXED LAYER WINDS OF 25 TO 35 KTS SHOULD PUSH SUSTAINED WINDS TO NEAR WIND ADVISORY CRITERIA MAINLY OVER THE NORTH AND WEST. ANOTHER SURGE OF COLD ADVECTION WILL DROP SOUTH THURSDAY NIGHT. FRIDAY WILL BE BLUSTERY AND COLD WITH BREEZY NORTHWEST WINDS. HIGHS WILL GENERALLY BE IN THE LOW TO MID 30S. HIGH PRESSURE MOVES ACROSS FRIDAY NIGHT. CURRENTLY HAVE LOWS A FEW DEGREES ABOVE MOS GUIDANCE FOR POTENTIAL MID TO HIGH LEVEL CLOUDS WITH INCREASING THETA-E ADVECTION THROUGH THOSE LEVELS. MINOR MODERATION SATURDAY INTO SUNDAY. A STRONGER COLD FRONT IS DUE TO ARRIVE MONDAY AND LEAD TO A COLD START TO NEXT WEEK. THE EXTENDED WILL BE MOSTLY DRY WITH THE POTENTIAL FOR VERY LIGHT RAIN OR SNOW EARLY NEXT WEEK. && .AVIATION...20/18Z MAINLY VFR CONDITIONS EXPECTED THROUGHOUT THE PERIOD...WITH THE EXCEPTION OF AT KOTM...WHERE SOME LINGERING LOW CLOUDS/HAZE MAY KEEP IT MVFR BRIEFLY THROUGH 19Z BEFORE ERODING/DISSIPATING. GOES-R SATELLITE FORECAST PRODUCT ALSO SUGGESTING LOW CLOUDS/FOG OVER MINNESOTA TO SPREAD SOUTHWARD LATE TONIGHT INDICATING POSSIBILITY OF IFR/MVFR CONDITIONS INTO KMCW. FOR NOW SATELLITE FORECAST PRODUCT SEEMS A BIT AGGRESSIVE COMPARED TO CURRENT SATELLITE TRENDS AND MODELS SHOWING ABSENCE OF LOW LEVEL MOISTURE THUS HAVE KEPT THE FORECAST VFR AT THIS TIME DUE TO UNCERTAINTY IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE IFR/MVFR CONDITIONS. && .DMX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...NONE. && $$ SHORT TERM...MJB LONG TERM...DONAVON AVIATION...MJB
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS DES MOINES IA
1110 AM CST TUE NOV 20 2012 .UPDATE... HAVE UPDATED THE FORECAST TO REMOVE FOG WORDING AND TOUCH UP SKY COVER GRIDS SOME AS LOW STRATUS CONTINUES TO DISSIPATE/ERODE OUT OF THE EASTERN CWA. ALSO HAVE DROPPED HIGHS A BIT ACROSS THE NORTH/EASTERN CWA WITH THE COOL START AND LINGERING LOW CLOUDS IN SOME PLACES. WEAK WAA ALOFT...BUT NORTHERLY WINDS AND STRONGER PUSH OF WARM AIR ALOFT NOT REALLY WORKING ITS WAY INTO THE CWA UNTIL LATE THIS AFTERNOON. THEREFORE JUST NUDGED THEM DOWN A BIT IN SOME PLACES NORTH/EAST. .SHORT TERM /TODAY/... WEAK COLD FRONT IS PUSHING INTO SOUTHEAST IOWA. MOISTURE AHEAD OF THE FRONT...COMBINED WITH LIGHT WINDS AND CLEAR SKIES...HAS RESULTED IN WIDESPREAD DENSE FOG. ADVISORY REMAINS IN EFFECT FOR THE EASTERN PART OF THE CWA THROUGH 16Z. FOG WILL ERODE AWAY FROM THE WEST...BUT ONLY SLOW PROGRESS IS EXPECTED. HRRR IS QUITE AGGRESSIVE IN HOLDING ONTO THE FOG AND DO NOT EXPECTED IT TO LAST INTO THE AFTERNOON AS IT IS INDICATING. A COOLER START THIS MORNING THAN YESTERDAY WILL HELP KEEP TEMPS BELOW 60 ACROSS THE CWA TODAY. IN ADDITION...LIGHT WINDS WILL LIMIT MIXING DEPTH AS WELL. .LONG TERM /TONIGHT THROUGH MONDAY/... RIDGE WILL BUILD IN BEHIND WEAK FRONTAL BOUNDARY FOR THE BEGINNING OF THE EXTENDED. UNDER RIDGE WITH SURFACE HIGH PRESSURE AND STRONG SOUTHERLY FLOW...TEMPERATURES WILL REMAIN WARM...WELL ABOVE NORMAL FOR NOVEMBER. HAVE KEPT TEMPERATURES NEAR GOING FORECAST...WITH WARMEST DAY WEDNESDAY AS WAA INCREASES AHEAD OF A FRONTAL BOUNDARY...AND CONDITIONS LOOK RIGHT FOR GOOD MIXING. COULD SEE TEMPERATURES POP A FEW DEGREES ABOVE GOING IN LOCATIONS FOR WEDNESDAY IF MIXING IS MAXIMIZED AS 85MB TEMPS WILL BE NEAR 14C ACROSS THE WEST. A WEAK FRONTAL BOUNDARY WILL PUSH ACROSS THE AREA FOR THURSDAY...WITH TEMPERATURES SLIGHTLY COOLER BEHIND THE BOUNDARY. HAVE LEFT SLIGHT CHANCE POPS ACROSS THE SOUTH FOR THURSDAY AS MOISTURE INCREASES. HOWEVER...DO NOT HAVE A LOT OF CONFIDENCE IN THESE CHANCE POPS AS MOISTURE IS SOMEWHAT LACKING. GFS IS MUCH MORE AGGRESSIVE WITH MOISTURE HEAD OF BOUNDARY...WITH NAM AND ECMWF MUCH LESS SO. HOWEVER...WITH FORCING ASSOCIATED WITH BOUNDARY COULD SEE SOME PRECIPITATION EVEN WITH LIMITED MOISTURE AND HAVE LEFT SLIGHT CHANCE POPS GOING. A MUCH STRONGER SYSTEM PUSHES THROUGH THURSDAY NIGHT...WITH A LARGE COOL DOWN IN STORE FOR THE END OF THE WEEK AS TEMPERATURES RETURN TO NEAR NORMAL. LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM WILL TRACK TO THE NORTH...AND COULD SEE SOME WRAP AROUND MOISTURE BRING LIGHT PRECIPITATION TO THE NORTH FRIDAY AND FRIDAY NIGHT...HOWEVER HAVE LEFT OUT ANY MENTION OF PRECIPITATION ATTM AS BEST FORCING WILL REMAIN NORTH INTO MINNESOTA. THE END OF THE PERIOD BECOMES A BIT TRICKY AS MODELS BUILD IN A WEAK RIDGE FOR THE WEEKEND...WITH TEMPERATURES AGAIN ABLE TO WARM NICELY. HOWEVER...THERE IS LITTLE AGREEMENT WITH SYSTEM FOR LATE IN THE WEEK. CURRENT MODEL TRENDS ARE TO HAVE A LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM PUSH ACROSS CANADA...BREAKING DOWN WEAK RIDGING. FRONTAL BOUNDARY ASSOCIATED WITH THIS LOW PRESSURES SYSTEM WILL ALLOW FOR CHANCES FOR PRECIPITATION ACROSS THE CWA BY LATE MONDAY. HOWEVER...THERE IS NOT GOOD AGREEMENT IN THE TIMING AND LOCATION OF THIS SYSTEM AND DO NOT HAVE HIGH CONFIDENCE. THIS WILL NEED TO BE WATCHED CLOSELY. && .AVIATION...20/18Z MAINLY VFR CONDITIONS EXPECTED THROUGHOUT THE PERIOD...WITH THE EXCEPTION OF AT KOTM...WHERE SOME LINGERING LOW CLOUDS/HAZE MAY KEEP IT MVFR BRIEFLY THROUGH 19Z BEFORE ERODING/DISSIPATING. GOES-R SATELLITE FORECAST PRODUCT ALSO SUGGESTING LOW CLOUDS/FOG OVER MINNESOTA TO SPREAD SOUTHWARD LATE TONIGHT INDICATING POSSIBILITY OF IFR/MVFR CONDITIONS INTO KMCW. FOR NOW SATELLITE FORECAST PRODUCT SEEMS A BIT AGGRESSIVE COMPARED TO CURRENT SATELLITE TRENDS AND MODELS SHOWING ABSENCE OF LOW LEVEL MOISTURE THUS HAVE KEPT THE FORECAST VFR AT THIS TIME DUE TO UNCERTAINTY IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE IFR/MVFR CONDITIONS. && .DMX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...NONE. && $$ SHORT TERM...MS NOV 12 LONG TERM...AWB AVIATION...MJB UPDATE...MJB
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION...UPDATED
NWS DES MOINES IA
1005 AM CST TUE NOV 20 2012 .UPDATE... HAVE UPDATED THE FORECAST TO REMOVE FOG WORDING AND TOUCH UP SKY COVER GRIDS SOME AS LOW STRATUS CONTINUES TO DISSIPATE/ERODE OUT OF THE EASTERN CWA. ALSO HAVE DROPPED HIGHS A BIT ACROSS THE NORTH/EASTERN CWA WITH THE COOL START AND LINGERING LOW CLOUDS IN SOME PLACES. WEAK WAA ALOFT...BUT NORTHERLY WINDS AND STRONGER PUSH OF WARM AIR ALOFT NOT REALLY WORKING ITS WAY INTO THE CWA UNTIL LATE THIS AFTERNOON. THEREFORE JUST NUDGED THEM DOWN A BIT IN SOME PLACES NORTH/EAST. .SHORT TERM /TODAY/... WEAK COLD FRONT IS PUSHING INTO SOUTHEAST IOWA. MOISTURE AHEAD OF THE FRONT...COMBINED WITH LIGHT WINDS AND CLEAR SKIES...HAS RESULTED IN WIDESPREAD DENSE FOG. ADVISORY REMAINS IN EFFECT FOR THE EASTERN PART OF THE CWA THROUGH 16Z. FOG WILL ERODE AWAY FROM THE WEST...BUT ONLY SLOW PROGRESS IS EXPECTED. HRRR IS QUITE AGGRESSIVE IN HOLDING ONTO THE FOG AND DO NOT EXPECTED IT TO LAST INTO THE AFTERNOON AS IT IS INDICATING. A COOLER START THIS MORNING THAN YESTERDAY WILL HELP KEEP TEMPS BELOW 60 ACROSS THE CWA TODAY. IN ADDITION...LIGHT WINDS WILL LIMIT MIXING DEPTH AS WELL. .LONG TERM /TONIGHT THROUGH MONDAY/... RIDGE WILL BUILD IN BEHIND WEAK FRONTAL BOUNDARY FOR THE BEGINNING OF THE EXTENDED. UNDER RIDGE WITH SURFACE HIGH PRESSURE AND STRONG SOUTHERLY FLOW...TEMPERATURES WILL REMAIN WARM...WELL ABOVE NORMAL FOR NOVEMBER. HAVE KEPT TEMPERATURES NEAR GOING FORECAST...WITH WARMEST DAY WEDNESDAY AS WAA INCREASES AHEAD OF A FRONTAL BOUNDARY...AND CONDITIONS LOOK RIGHT FOR GOOD MIXING. COULD SEE TEMPERATURES POP A FEW DEGREES ABOVE GOING IN LOCATIONS FOR WEDNESDAY IF MIXING IS MAXIMIZED AS 85MB TEMPS WILL BE NEAR 14C ACROSS THE WEST. A WEAK FRONTAL BOUNDARY WILL PUSH ACROSS THE AREA FOR THURSDAY...WITH TEMPERATURES SLIGHTLY COOLER BEHIND THE BOUNDARY. HAVE LEFT SLIGHT CHANCE POPS ACROSS THE SOUTH FOR THURSDAY AS MOISTURE INCREASES. HOWEVER...DO NOT HAVE A LOT OF CONFIDENCE IN THESE CHANCE POPS AS MOISTURE IS SOMEWHAT LACKING. GFS IS MUCH MORE AGGRESSIVE WITH MOISTURE HEAD OF BOUNDARY...WITH NAM AND ECMWF MUCH LESS SO. HOWEVER...WITH FORCING ASSOCIATED WITH BOUNDARY COULD SEE SOME PRECIPITATION EVEN WITH LIMITED MOISTURE AND HAVE LEFT SLIGHT CHANCE POPS GOING. A MUCH STRONGER SYSTEM PUSHES THROUGH THURSDAY NIGHT...WITH A LARGE COOL DOWN IN STORE FOR THE END OF THE WEEK AS TEMPERATURES RETURN TO NEAR NORMAL. LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM WILL TRACK TO THE NORTH...AND COULD SEE SOME WRAP AROUND MOISTURE BRING LIGHT PRECIPITATION TO THE NORTH FRIDAY AND FRIDAY NIGHT...HOWEVER HAVE LEFT OUT ANY MENTION OF PRECIPITATION ATTM AS BEST FORCING WILL REMAIN NORTH INTO MINNESOTA. THE END OF THE PERIOD BECOMES A BIT TRICKY AS MODELS BUILD IN A WEAK RIDGE FOR THE WEEKEND...WITH TEMPERATURES AGAIN ABLE TO WARM NICELY. HOWEVER...THERE IS LITTLE AGREEMENT WITH SYSTEM FOR LATE IN THE WEEK. CURRENT MODEL TRENDS ARE TO HAVE A LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM PUSH ACROSS CANADA...BREAKING DOWN WEAK RIDGING. FRONTAL BOUNDARY ASSOCIATED WITH THIS LOW PRESSURES SYSTEM WILL ALLOW FOR CHANCES FOR PRECIPITATION ACROSS THE CWA BY LATE MONDAY. HOWEVER...THERE IS NOT GOOD AGREEMENT IN THE TIMING AND LOCATION OF THIS SYSTEM AND DO NOT HAVE HIGH CONFIDENCE. THIS WILL NEED TO BE WATCHED CLOSELY. && .AVIATION...20/12Z FOG OVER EASTERN IA WILL SLOWLY IMPROVE DURING THE MORNING AS SOME MIXING TAKES PLACE BEHIND THE WEAK FRONTAL BOUNDARY. TIMING OF THE FOG ON THE HRRR SEEMS TOO SLOW WITH AN EXTENSIVE AREA HOLDING WELL PAST 18Z. GOES-R SIMULATED WRF FCST PRODUCT SEEMS TO HAVE THE BEST HANDLE ON THE FOG TIMING AND FOLLOWED FAIRLY CLOSE WITH THE CLEARING. LITTLE ACTION IN THE REST OF THE TAF WITH WEAK HIGH PRESSURE RIDGE MOVING ACROSS THE STATE TODAY AND TONIGHT. && .DMX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...NONE. && $$ SHORT TERM...MS NOV 12 LONG TERM...AWB AVIATION...MS NOV 12 UPDATE...MJB
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS DES MOINES IA
654 AM CST TUE NOV 20 2012 .SHORT TERM /TODAY/... WEAK COLD FRONT IS PUSHING INTO SOUTHEAST IOWA. MOISTURE AHEAD OF THE FRONT...COMBINED WITH LIGHT WINDS AND CLEAR SKIES...HAS RESULTED IN WIDESPREAD DENSE FOG. ADVISORY REMAINS IN EFFECT FOR THE EASTERN PART OF THE CWA THROUGH 16Z. FOG WILL ERODE AWAY FROM THE WEST...BUT ONLY SLOW PROGRESS IS EXPECTED. HRRR IS QUITE AGGRESSIVE IN HOLDING ONTO THE FOG AND DO NOT EXPECTED IT TO LAST INTO THE AFTERNOON AS IT IS INDICATING. A COOLER START THIS MORNING THAN YESTERDAY WILL HELP KEEP TEMPS BELOW 60 ACROSS THE CWA TODAY. IN ADDITION...LIGHT WINDS WILL LIMIT MIXING DEPTH AS WELL. .LONG TERM /TONIGHT THROUGH MONDAY/... RIDGE WILL BUILD IN BEHIND WEAK FRONTAL BOUNDARY FOR THE BEGINNING OF THE EXTENDED. UNDER RIDGE WITH SURFACE HIGH PRESSURE AND STRONG SOUTHERLY FLOW...TEMPERATURES WILL REMAIN WARM...WELL ABOVE NORMAL FOR NOVEMBER. HAVE KEPT TEMPERATURES NEAR GOING FORECAST...WITH WARMEST DAY WEDNESDAY AS WAA INCREASES AHEAD OF A FRONTAL BOUNDARY...AND CONDITIONS LOOK RIGHT FOR GOOD MIXING. COULD SEE TEMPERATURES POP A FEW DEGREES ABOVE GOING IN LOCATIONS FOR WEDNESDAY IF MIXING IS MAXIMIZED AS 85MB TEMPS WILL BE NEAR 14C ACROSS THE WEST. A WEAK FRONTAL BOUNDARY WILL PUSH ACROSS THE AREA FOR THURSDAY...WITH TEMPERATURES SLIGHTLY COOLER BEHIND THE BOUNDARY. HAVE LEFT SLIGHT CHANCE POPS ACROSS THE SOUTH FOR THURSDAY AS MOISTURE INCREASES. HOWEVER...DO NOT HAVE A LOT OF CONFIDENCE IN THESE CHANCE POPS AS MOISTURE IS SOMEWHAT LACKING. GFS IS MUCH MORE AGGRESSIVE WITH MOISTURE HEAD OF BOUNDARY...WITH NAM AND ECMWF MUCH LESS SO. HOWEVER...WITH FORCING ASSOCIATED WITH BOUNDARY COULD SEE SOME PRECIPITATION EVEN WITH LIMITED MOISTURE AND HAVE LEFT SLIGHT CHANCE POPS GOING. A MUCH STRONGER SYSTEM PUSHES THROUGH THURSDAY NIGHT...WITH A LARGE COOL DOWN IN STORE FOR THE END OF THE WEEK AS TEMPERATURES RETURN TO NEAR NORMAL. LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM WILL TRACK TO THE NORTH...AND COULD SEE SOME WRAP AROUND MOISTURE BRING LIGHT PRECIPITATION TO THE NORTH FRIDAY AND FRIDAY NIGHT...HOWEVER HAVE LEFT OUT ANY MENTION OF PRECIPITATION ATTM AS BEST FORCING WILL REMAIN NORTH INTO MINNESOTA. THE END OF THE PERIOD BECOMES A BIT TRICKY AS MODELS BUILD IN A WEAK RIDGE FOR THE WEEKEND...WITH TEMPERATURES AGAIN ABLE TO WARM NICELY. HOWEVER...THERE IS LITTLE AGREEMENT WITH SYSTEM FOR LATE IN THE WEEK. CURRENT MODEL TRENDS ARE TO HAVE A LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM PUSH ACROSS CANADA...BREAKING DOWN WEAK RIDGING. FRONTAL BOUNDARY ASSOCIATED WITH THIS LOW PRESSURES SYSTEM WILL ALLOW FOR CHANCES FOR PRECIPITATION ACROSS THE CWA BY LATE MONDAY. HOWEVER...THERE IS NOT GOOD AGREEMENT IN THE TIMING AND LOCATION OF THIS SYSTEM AND DO NOT HAVE HIGH CONFIDENCE. THIS WILL NEED TO BE WATCHED CLOSELY. && .AVIATION...20/12Z FOG OVER EASTERN IA WILL SLOWLY IMPROVE DURING THE MORNING AS SOME MIXING TAKES PLACE BEHIND THE WEAK FRONTAL BOUNDARY. TIMING OF THE FOG ON THE HRRR SEEMS TOO SLOW WITH AN EXTENSIVE AREA HOLDING WELL PAST 18Z. GOES-R SIMULATED WF FCST PRODUCT SEEMS TO HAVE THE BEST HANDLE ON THE FOG TIMING AND FOLLOWED FAIRLY CLOSE WITH THE CLEARING. LITTLE ACTION IN THE REST OF THE TAF WITH WEAK HIGH PRESSURE RIDGE MOVING ACROSS THE STATE TODAY AND TONIGHT. && .DMX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... DENSE FOG ADVISORY UNTIL 10 AM CST THIS MORNING FOR BLACK HAWK- BREMER-BUTLER-DAVIS-GRUNDY-JASPER-MAHASKA-MARSHALL-POWESHIEK- TAMA-WAPELLO. && $$ SHORT TERM...MS NOV 12 LONG TERM...AWB AVIATION...MS NOV 12
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS DES MOINES IA
339 AM CST TUE NOV 20 2012 .SHORT TERM /TODAY/... WEAK COLD FRONT IS PUSHING INTO SOUTHEAST IOWA. MOISTURE AHEAD OF THE FRONT...COMBINED WITH LIGHT WINDS AND CLEAR SKIES...HAS RESULTED IN WIDESPREAD DENSE FOG. ADVISORY REMAINS IN EFFECT FOR THE EASTERN PART OF THE CWA THROUGH 16Z. FOG WILL ERODE AWAY FROM THE WEST...BUT ONLY SLOW PROGRESS IS EXPECTED. HRRR IS QUITE AGGRESSIVE IN HOLDING ONTO THE FOG AND DO NOT EXPECTED IT TO LAST INTO THE AFTERNOON AS IT IS INDICATING. A COOLER START THIS MORNING THAN YESTERDAY WILL HELP KEEP TEMPS BELOW 60 ACROSS THE CWA TODAY. IN ADDITION...LIGHT WINDS WILL LIMIT MIXING DEPTH AS WELL. .LONG TERM /TONIGHT THROUGH MONDAY/... RIDGE WILL BUILD IN BEHIND WEAK FRONTAL BOUNDARY FOR THE BEGINNING OF THE EXTENDED. UNDER RIDGE WITH SURFACE HIGH PRESSURE AND STRONG SOUTHERLY FLOW...TEMPERATURES WILL REMAIN WARM...WELL ABOVE NORMAL FOR NOVEMBER. HAVE KEPT TEMPERATURES NEAR GOING FORECAST...WITH WARMEST DAY WEDNESDAY AS WAA INCREASES AHEAD OF A FRONTAL BOUNDARY...AND CONDITIONS LOOK RIGHT FOR GOOD MIXING. COULD SEE TEMPERATURES POP A FEW DEGREES ABOVE GOING IN LOCATIONS FOR WEDNESDAY IF MIXING IS MAXIMIZED AS 85MB TEMPS WILL BE NEAR 14C ACROSS THE WEST. A WEAK FRONTAL BOUNDARY WILL PUSH ACROSS THE AREA FOR THURSDAY...WITH TEMPERATURES SLIGHTLY COOLER BEHIND THE BOUNDARY. HAVE LEFT SLIGHT CHANCE POPS ACROSS THE SOUTH FOR THURSDAY AS MOISTURE INCREASES. HOWEVER...DO NOT HAVE A LOT OF CONFIDENCE IN THESE CHANCE POPS AS MOISTURE IS SOMEWHAT LACKING. GFS IS MUCH MORE AGGRESSIVE WITH MOISTURE HEAD OF BOUNDARY...WITH NAM AND ECMWF MUCH LESS SO. HOWEVER...WITH FORCING ASSOCIATED WITH BOUNDARY COULD SEE SOME PRECIPITATION EVEN WITH LIMITED MOISTURE AND HAVE LEFT SLIGHT CHANCE POPS GOING. A MUCH STRONGER SYSTEM PUSHES THROUGH THURSDAY NIGHT...WITH A LARGE COOL DOWN IN STORE FOR THE END OF THE WEEK AS TEMPERATURES RETURN TO NEAR NORMAL. LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM WILL TRACK TO THE NORTH...AND COULD SEE SOME WRAP AROUND MOISTURE BRING LIGHT PRECIPITATION TO THE NORTH FRIDAY AND FRIDAY NIGHT...HOWEVER HAVE LEFT OUT ANY MENTION OF PRECIPITATION ATTM AS BEST FORCING WILL REMAIN NORTH INTO MINNESOTA. THE END OF THE PERIOD BECOMES A BIT TRICKY AS MODELS BUILD IN A WEAK RIDGE FOR THE WEEKEND...WITH TEMPERATURES AGAIN ABLE TO WARM NICELY. HOWEVER...THERE IS LITTLE AGREEMENT WITH SYSTEM FOR LATE IN THE WEEK. CURRENT MODEL TRENDS ARE TO HAVE A LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM PUSH ACROSS CANADA...BREAKING DOWN WEAK RIDGING. FRONTAL BOUNDARY ASSOCIATED WITH THIS LOW PRESSURES SYSTEM WILL ALLOW FOR CHANCES FOR PRECIPITATION ACROSS THE CWA BY LATE MONDAY. HOWEVER...THERE IS NOT GOOD AGREEMENT IN THE TIMING AND LOCATION OF THIS SYSTEM AND DO NOT HAVE HIGH CONFIDENCE. THIS WILL NEED TO BE WATCHED CLOSELY. && .AVIATION...20/06Z HAVE UPDATED TAFS TO INCLUDE LOWER VISIBILITY ACROSS THE NORTH AND EAST OVERNIGHT. SOME QUESTION AS TO HOW LONG LOW VISIBILITY WILL LAST AND IF VARIABLE CONDITIONS WILL DEVELOP WITH THE VSBY AS TEMPS WARM AND FALL DUE TO FOG FORMATION. WEAK BOUNDARY EXPECTED TO ARRIVE OVER EAST BY 12Z AS EXPECTED...AND THIS WILL FOCUS THE FOG IN THIS LOCATION. OVER THE REMAINDER OF THE SITES NOT MUCH EXPECTED AT KDSM AND KFOD...BUT KALO...KOTM...AND KMCW LIFR TO IFR VSBY AND CIGS CAN BE EXPECTED AT TIMES UNTIL THE FOG LIFTS AFT 14-15Z. THE REMAINDER OF THE FORECAST WILL BECOME BENIGN WITH VFR CONDITIONS RETURNING. && .DMX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... DENSE FOG ADVISORY UNTIL 10 AM CST THIS MORNING FOR BLACK HAWK- BREMER-BUTLER-DAVIS-GRUNDY-JASPER-MAHASKA-MARSHALL-POWESHIEK- TAMA-WAPELLO. && $$ SHORT TERM...MS NOV 12 LONG TERM...AWB AVIATION...REV
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION...CORRECTED
NWS QUAD CITIES IA IL
1147 PM CST MON NOV 19 2012 .AVIATION... SKIES HAVE CLEARED OVER MUCH OF THE AREA THIS EVENING...BUT VFR CIGS BASED AROUND 35HND FEET REMAIN EAST OF A LINE FROM JUST WEST OF KDBQ TO JUST WEST OF KMLI THROUGH KGBG. MODEL RH FIELDS SUGGEST THESE CLOUDS WILL NOT MOVE MUCH FURTHER EAST AND THE LATEST SATELLITE IMAGERY SHOWS THE EASTWARD PROGRESS SLOWING SIGNIFICANTLY. TO THE WEST CLEAR SKIES AND LIGHT WINDS NEAR A WEAK FRONT JUST MOVING INTO EASTERN IOWA HAVE CREATED FAVORABLE CONDITIONS FOR FOG. DENSE FOG WITH LIFR CIGS AND VSBYS LOOK REASONABLE AT KCID AND PROBABLY KBRL EARLY THIS MORNING. THE CLOUD COVER NEAR THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER SHOULD KEEP THE DENSE FOG OUT OF KDBQ AND KMLI. ONCE THE FRONT MOVES THROUGH THE AREA LOCATIONS THAT HAVE THE LIFR CONDITIONS SHOULD SLOWLY IMPROVE WITH VFR CONDITIONS EXPECTED AT ALL SITES AROUND 18Z TUESDAY. DLF && PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 315 PM CST MON NOV 19 2012/ SYNOPSIS... 12Z UA ANALYSIS HAS SEVERAL WEAK TROFS FROM THE WESTERN GREAT LAKES INTO THE ROCKIES. AT 850MB A MOISTURE PLUME EXTENDED FROM THE BAY OF CAMPECHE UP INTO CENTRAL IOWA. RADAR TRENDS THROUGH EARLY AFTERNOON SHOW A CONTINUED DECREASE OF THE PRECIPITATION AS THE OVERALL FORCING WEAKENS. AT THE SAME TIME...LOW CLOUDS HAD DEVELOPED ON THE EASTERN EDGE OF THE CLEARING AND WERE NOW OVER THE MID MISSISSIPPI VALLEY. 18Z SFC ANALYSIS HAS A VERY WEAK LOW ALONG THE OK/TX BORDER EAST OF KAMA WITH A TROF EXTENDING NORTH FROM THE LOW INTO NORTHERN MINNESOTA. A WEAK COLD FRONT RAN FROM NORTHWEST MINNESOTA INTO SOUTH DAKOTA. DEW POINTS WERE IN THE 40S AND 50S IN A BROAD MOISTURE PLUME FROM TEXAS INTO IOWA WITH 30S ACROSS THE REMAINDER OF THE MIDWEST AND PLAINS. SHORT TERM...TONIGHT AND TUESDAY... THE ONLY EXPLANATION FOR THE RAPID DEVELOPMENT OF THE LOW CLOUDS ACROSS THE CWFA SINCE LATE MORNING IS CONVERGENT FLOW AHEAD OF THE TROF. THIS CONVERGENCE CONTINUES THIS AFTERNOON SO THE CLOUDS ARE EXPECTED TO REMAIN ACROSS THE AREA. RADAR TRENDS SUGGEST THE POTENTIAL FOR SOME SPRINKLES/VERY LIGHT SHRA TO CONTINUE INTO THE LATE AFTERNOON HOURS AS WELL IN THE EASTERN CWFA. GOING ON THE ASSUMPTION THAT THE RAP TRENDS ARE CORRECT...THE OVERALL CONVERGENCE IS PROGGED TO WEAKEN THIS EVENING WHICH SHOULD ALLOW THE CLOUDS TO PARTIALLY BREAK UP IN THE WESTERN CWFA. IN THE EASTERN CWFA LINGERING SPRINKLES ARE POSSIBLE EARLY THIS EVENING. THE RAP TRENDS AFTER MIDNIGHT ARE DISTURBING. THE CONVERGENT FLOW IS PROGGED TO INCREASE AGAIN AND THE RAP IS INDICATING THAT A WEAK LOW WILL MOVE ALONG THE TROF INTO THE CWFA PRIOR TO SUNRISE. WITH PLENTIFUL LOW LEVEL MOISTURE IN PLACE THE CLOUDS ARE EXPECTED TO RE-DEVELOP OR FOG/STRATUS WILL DEVELOP IN THE CLEAR AREAS. THUS WILL ADD AREAS OF FOG IN THE WESTERN CWFA AND PATCHY FOG EAST WHERE THE CLOUDS ARE EXPECTED TO LINGER LONGER. I CANNOT RULE OUT THE POSSIBILITY OF A HEADLINE FOR THE FOG LATE TONIGHT INTO TUESDAY MORNING. HOW THE CLOUDS AND POTENTIAL FOG DEVELOP/EVOLVE LATE TONIGHT WILL BE THE KEY. IF ONE HAD TO ASSIGN A PROBABILITY IT IS CURRENTLY 1 IN 5 OR 1 IN 4 REGARDING A HEADLINE. ASSUMING THAT LOW CLOUDS/FOG DEVELOP LATE TONIGHT THEY WILL CONTINUE INTO TUESDAY MORNING. THE FOG SHOULD LIFT BY LATE MORNING WITH THE CLOUDS EXPECTED TO CLEAR OUT DURING THE AFTERNOON. THE RATE OF CLEARING ON TUESDAY IS A CONCERN GIVEN THE WEAK SUN. IT IS ENTIRELY POSSIBLE THAT THE CLOUDS MAY NOT CLEAR OUT UNTIL CLOSE TO SUNSET TUESDAY. IF THAT OCCURS...THE CURRENT MAX TEMPERATURES FOR TUESDAY ARE TOO WARM. ..08.. LONG TERM...TUESDAY NIGHT THROUGH NEXT MONDAY... TUESDAY NIGHT AND WEDNESDAY...BOTH SFC AND UPPER RIDGING STILL ON TRACK TO GET PRESSED ACRS THE REGION THIS PERIOD AS WELL AS UNSEASONABLY MILD TEMPS. LIGHT WINDS AND CLEAR OUT OF CLOUDS WILL MAKE FOR A COOLER NIGHT TUE NIGHT WITH LOWS WELL DOWN IN THE 30S. DEPENDING ON TUE AFTERNOON CLOUD CLEAR OUT...THE LATER THE CLEARING TREND AND THUS REDUCING THE SFC MIX OUT DRYING...TUE NIGHT MAY BE AN IDEAL RADIATIONAL FOG SET UP ESPECIALLY ALONG AND EAST OF THE MS RVR. WILL HOLD OFF MENTION FOR NOW BUT FOLLOWING SHIFTS WILL HAVE TO ASSESS THIS POTENTIAL. AS FOR WED...TEMPORARY OMEGA BLOCK OVER STRENGTHENING WARMING LLVL RETURN FLOW STILL APPEAR ON TAP. EXTENT OF AVERAGED LLVL THERMAL DRAW BY THE MAJORITY OF THE NEW 12Z RUN MODELS AND MIXING UP INTO BASE ON BUILDING WARM WEDGE ALOFT SUPPORTS WIDESPREAD HIGHS IN THE UPPER 50S IN THE FAR NORTHEAST...TO THE MID 60S IN THE SOUTHWEST. UNSEASONABLY MILD WED NIGHT AND IF SOUTHERLY SFC WINDS CAN MAINTAIN AT 5-10 KTS...MANY AREAL TEMPS WILL BE HELD UP FROM DIPPING BELOW THE MID-UPPER 40S. BUT MAY PLAY IT COOLER IN CASE OF ANY SFC WIND DECREASE EVEN IF TEMPORARY. THURSDAY AND FRIDAY... INCOMING PACIFIC NW WAVE ENERGY/DEVELOPING CYCLONE ACRS THE NORTHERN PLAINS AND ASSOCIATED SFC FRONT PROJECTED BY LATER RUNS TO SWEEP THROUGH THE DVN CWA THU EVENING. ACTUAL FROPA OCCURRING ACRS THE MS RVR FROM THE WEST PROGGED BY ENSEMBLE MEAN NOW LOOKS TO OCCUR AROUND OR JUST AFTER 00Z FRI...THUS THE BULK OF THU THE DVN CWA TO BE IN BREEZY PRE-FRONTAL WARM SECTOR. STOUT INVERSION ALOFT AND INCREASE IN LOW-TO-MID LEVEL MOISTURE/CLOUDS COULD BE THE LIMITING FACTOR AND PREVENT A RECORD MILD THANKSGIVING. IF IT WERE NOT FOR THOSE FACTORS...SOME AREAS WOULD HIT 70 OR HIGHER. BUT WILL WITH A MORE CONSERVATIVE LOW TO MID 60S. STRENGTH OF LLVL FRONT ITSELF AND MID-UPPER LOW ROLLING ACRS THE UPPER MS RVR VALLEY SHOULD BE ENOUGH TO DEVELOP SOME SHOWERS JUST AHEAD OF THE FRONT THU AFTERNOON AND EVENING EVEN TAKING INTO ACCOUNT SOMEWHAT LIMITED MOISTURE RETURN INTO THE FROPA PROCESS. BUT IF LATER RUNS TREND WETTER...SOME MODERATE SHOWERS AN POSSIBLY EVEN A THUNDERSTORM MAY BE POSSIBLE THU AFTERNOON/EVENING. IT ALL DEPENDS ON ANY BUILD UP OF INSTABILITY IF IT CAN AS THU PROGRESSES. DEPENDING ON THE FRONTAL TIMING...LATE NIGHT SWITCH OVER TO LLVL COLD CONVEYOR COULD PLUNGE MUCH OF THE NORTHWEST HALF OF THE LOCAL FCST AREA INTO THE LOW TO MID 30S. FRIDAY STILL ON TRACK TO BE A MUCH COLDER BLUSTERY DAY IN SUBSIDING DRY SLOT OFF GRT LKS CYCLONE...WITH HIGHS HAVING TROUBLE GETTING OUT OF THE UPPER 30S TO LOWER 40S AS NORTHWEST WINDS GUST OVER 30 MPH. WRAP AROUND SNOW FLURRIES/SHOWERS MAY NOT BE ALL THAT FAR AWAY FROM THE LOCAL AREA ACRS SOUTHERN WI. IF SFC WINDS DECOUPLE UNDER CLEAR SKIES FRI NIGHT...LOWS COULD DIP INTO THE LOWER 20S TO EVEN UPPER TEENS IN SOME LOCATIONS BY EARLY SAT MORNING. SATURDAY THROUGH NEXT MONDAY...LATEST RUN OF THE MEDIUM RANGE SOLUTIONS AND ENSEMBLES SUGGEST A QUICK RETURN TO PROGRESSIVE WESTERLIES/ FLATTENED FLOW PATTERN ACRS MUCH OF THE CONUS...THUS DRY AND THERMALLY MODERATING WX INTO SUNDAY AND SUNDAY NIGHT. HIGHS BY SUNDAY BACK INTO THE MID 40S TO NEAR 50 WITH SOME RETURN FLOW MIXING AND INSOLATION. AS FOR EARLY TO MID NEXT WEEK...NORTHERN HEMISPHERIC TELECONNECTIONS SUGGEST ENOUGH WAVE ENERGY/UPPER JET INFLUX DIGGING INTO THE WEST FOR AN EVENTUAL L/W TROF COMPLEX ACRS THE SOUTHWESTERN ROCKIES AND GRT BSN. MANY COMPLEX PHASING ISSUES TO BE RESOLVED THAT FAR OUT...BUT THE GENERAL SIGNAL OF A LOADED SOUTHWEST FLOW PATTERN ACRS THE WESTERN TO MID CONUS WITH COLD AIR TRYING TO DUMP DOWN THE PLAINS AND UPPER MIDWEST WHILE A WARM MOIST CONVEYOR STREAMS UP NORTHWARD TO THE LEE OF THE L/W TROF...COULD MAKE FOR A VERY INTERESTING MID TO LATE WEEK PERIOD. STAY TUNED. ..12.. && .DVN WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... IA...NONE. IL...NONE. MO...NONE. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS DODGE CITY KS
510 PM CST WED NOV 21 2012 ...UPDATE TO AVIATION... .SYNOPSIS... ISSUED AT 343 PM CST WED NOV 21 2012 THE PERSISTENT LONGWAVE TROUGH CONTINUED TO BE THE PREVAILING METEOROLOGICAL FEATURE ACROSS THE PACIFIC-NORTH AMERICA SECTOR. ON THE SYNOPTIC SCALE, A FAIRLY INTENSE STORM SYSTEM WAS MOVING INLAND WASHINGTON/SOUTHERN BRITISH COLUMBIA. BY WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON, THE PRIMARY CIRCULATION CENTER WAS MOVING ACROSS THE CANADIAN ROCKIES. THE STRONG CROSS-MOUNTAIN FLOW WAS KEEPING MSLP FAIRLY LOW ACROSS ALL OF THE NORTHERN HIGH PLAINS (1001MB SURFACE LOW NEAR ALZADA, MONTANA AT 21Z). A SUBSTANTIAL WARM SECTOR ENCOMPASSED MUCH OF THE GREAT PLAINS FROM TEXAS TO SOUTH DAKOTA WITH WIDESPREAD 70S OBSERVED THIS AFTERNOON. MSLP GRADIENT WAS STRONGEST FROM WESTERN IOWA INTO SOUTHWESTERN KANSAS WHERE WINDS RANGED FROM 22 TO 27 KNOTS SUSTAINED DURING THE AFTERNOON HOURS. OF NOTE AS WELL (WHICH WILL PLAY INTO TONIGHTS FORECAST), WAS A SUBTROPICAL DISTURBANCE FROM NEW MEXICO TO SOUTHWEST TEXAS WHICH YIELDED QUITE A BIT OF MID AND HIGH LEVEL CLOUD COVER AND EVEN A FEW LIGHTNING STRIKES FROM SHOWERS AND ISOLATED THUNDERSTORMS. && .SHORT TERM...(THIS EVENING THROUGH TOMORROW) ISSUED AT 343 PM CST WED NOV 21 2012 FOR THE TIME PERIOD TONIGHT AND TOMORROW, THE GREATEST CHALLENGE IN THE FORECAST WILL BE LOWS TONIGHT AND HOW MUCH CLOUD COVER AND WIND WILL INFLUENCE OVERNIGHT TEMPERATURES. THE PREVIOUS FORECAST ALREADY HAD A FAIRLY TIGHT GRADIENT IN LOW TEMPERATURES TONIGHT (FROM 33F ACROSS FAR WEST CENTRAL KANSAS TO AROUND 51F ACROSS FAR SOUTH CENTRAL KANSAS). THESE LOOK GOOD FOR THE MOST PART, BUT THE LATEST RAP AND NAM12 MODELS SUGGEST TEMPERATURES WILL NOT GET MUCH BELOW 60F SOUTHEAST OF A GREAT BEND TO ASHLAND LINE, AND GIVEN THE SEMI OPAQUE SKY COVER FROM 300-500MB CLOUD (FROM THE SUBTROPICAL SHORTWAVE TROUGH) AND THE SOUTHWEST WINDS CONTINUING 12 TO 16 KNOTS IN THESE AREAS, REALLY CANNOT ARGUE AGAINST THESE WARM TEMPERATURES TONIGHT. AS A RESULT, I HAVE BUMPED UP MIN TEMPS ABOUT 2 TO 4 DEGREES AND MOVED THE GRADIENT WESTWARD ABOUT 30 MILES OR SO (EFFECTIVELY WARMING UP DODGE CITY LOW QUITE A BIT). THE FORECAST FOR THANKSGIVING DAY WILL BE A LITTLE LESS COMPLICATED AS MID-HIGH LEVEL CLOUD COVER WILL BE MOVING EAST OF THE AREA WITH SURFACE WINDS BECOMING NORTHWESTERLY. WHILE COLD ADVECTION WILL EXIST BEHIND THE FRONT, THE AIRMASS WILL BE MODIFIED BY DOWNSLOPE AND INSOLATION WILL ALSO COUNTER THE COLD ADVECTION. HIGHS WILL STILL BE ABOVE AVERAGE FOR THE DATE WITH TEMPERATURES WARMING INTO THE 60S (LOWER 70S SOUTH CENTRAL KS). WITH THE INITIAL ISALLOBARIC WIND SURGE/PRESSURE RISE WITH THE PASSAGE OF THE FRONT, WIND SPEEDS WILL BE 22 TO 26 KNOTS MUCH LIKE TODAY, BUT THESE SPEEDS SHOULD ONLY OCCUR DURING ABOUT A 3 OR 4 HOUR PERIOD BEFORE WINDS GRADUALLY DECREASE BACK DOWN TO THE 18 TO 22 KT RANGE LATE IN THE DAY. .LONG TERM...(THURSDAY NIGHT THROUGH WEDNESDAY) ISSUED AT 248 PM CST WED NOV 21 2012 BY THE BEGINNING OF THE EXTENDED PERIOD ON THURSDAY NIGHT, A STRONG UPPER LEVEL SHORTWAVE TROUGH WILL BE MOVING OUT OF THE NORTHERN PLAINS INTO THE MIDWESTERN STATES AND GREAT LAKES REGION. A COLD FRONT WILL BE LOCATED OVER SOUTHEAST KANSAS INTO WEST TEXAS. HIGH PRESSURE WILL BE BUILDING INTO WESTERN KANSAS BEHIND THE FRONT THURSDAY NIGHT THROUGH FRIDAY. THE 12Z MODEL TEMPERATURE FORECASTS ARE COMING IN COOLER THAN PREVIOUS RUNS WHICH SEEMS REASONABLE GIVEN THE ONGOING COLD AIR ADVECTION. INTO THIS WEEKEND, FLAT UPPER LEVEL RIDGING WILL SPREAD EAST ACROSS THE WESTERN AND CENTRAL PART OF THE COUNTRY. ANOTHER SHORTWAVE TROUGH WILL MOVE INTO THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST ON SATURDAY BEHIND THE RIDGE AND THIS FEATURE WILL BE DIGGING SOME AS IT MOVES INTO THE CENTRAL HIGH PLAINS BY MONDAY NIGHT. THROUGH THIS WEEKEND THE DRY FORECAST WILL CONTINUE WITH TEMPERATURES WILL MODERATE BACK INTO THE 60S. LEE SIDE TROUGHING WILL DEVELOP ON SATURDAY. THIS WILL DEVELOP INTO A LOW PRESSURE AREA THAT MOVES INTO THE OKLAHOMA AND TEXAS PANHANDLES BY SUNDAY EVENING AS THE NEXT UPPER TROUGH APPROACHES. THIS WILL BRING A SWITCH IN THE SURFACE WINDS BACK AROUND TO THE EAST TO NORTHEAST ON SUNDAY. THIS WAVE WILL MOVE OUT ACROSS THE CENTRAL AND NORTHERN PLAINS MONDAY NIGHT. THERE DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE SUFFICIENT MOISTURE AVAILABLE FOR THIS SYSTEM TO WORK WITH. THE BEST CHANCES FOR MEASURABLE PRECIPITATION WILL BE ALONG THE EASTERN SLOPES OF THE ROCKIES AND OVER EASTERN KANSAS INTO THE MID MISSISSIPPI VALLEY. HIGH TEMPERATURES WILL DROP BACK INTO THE 40S ON MONDAY AND TUESDAY. THE REMAINDER OF THE EXTENDED PERIOD WILL SEE AN UPPER LEVEL RIDGE BUILDING OVER THE CENTRAL PART OF THE COUNTRY. THIS WILL RESULT IN TEMPERATURES MODERATING BACK INTO THE 60S LATER NEXT WEEK. && .AVIATION...(FOR THE 00Z TAFS THROUGH 00Z THURSDAY EVENING) ISSUED AT 505 PM CST WED NOV 21 2012 VFR CONDITIONS WILL PREVAIL AT ALL TAF SITES THROUGH EARLY THURSDAY AFTERNOON. AS FOR WINDS, A LEE SIDE TROUGH OF LOW PRESSURE IN EXTREME EASTERN COLORADO WILL BEGIN EDGING EAST INTO WESTERN KANSAS THIS EVENING. AS A RESULT, SOUTHERLY WINDS OF 15 TO 25KT EARLY THIS EVENING WILL BECOME MORE SOUTHWESTERLY WHILE DECREASING 5 TO 15KT OVERNIGHT. A COLD FRONT IS THEN EXPECTED TO PUSH SOUTHEAST ACROSS WESTERN KANSAS EARLY THURSDAY MORNING TURNING WINDS NORTHERLY 25 TO 35KT BY MID DAY THURSDAY. && .PRELIMINARY POINT TEMPS/POPS... DDC 53 66 24 53 / 0 0 0 0 GCK 36 64 22 53 / 0 0 0 0 EHA 39 65 23 53 / 0 0 0 0 LBL 48 67 24 55 / 0 0 0 0 HYS 43 63 21 51 / 0 0 0 0 P28 56 72 28 53 / 10 10 0 0 && .DDC WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... NONE. && $$ SYNOPSIS...UMSCHEID SHORT TERM...UMSCHEID LONG TERM...GERARD AVIATION...JJOHNSON
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NWS GOODLAND KS
1040 AM MST TUE NOV 20 2012 .SHORT TERM...(TODAY THROUGH THURSDAY NIGHT) ISSUED AT 205 AM MST TUE NOV 20 2012 LATEST WV IMAGERY AND RUC H5 ANALYSIS SHOW A RIDGE EXTENDING NORTH ACROSS THE CENTRAL AND HIGH PLAINS WITH A LARGE TROUGH JUST OFF THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST COAST. TODAY-WEDNESDAY...WITH SHORTWAVE RIDGE IN PLACE TODAY AND SW FLOW ALOFT AND LARGE SCALE SUBSIDENCE ON WEDNESDAY DRY CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED. WITH WAA ON EASTERN EXTENT OF LEE TROUGH STRENGTHENING THE NEXT FEW DAYS...WE SHOULD SEE TEMPERATURES IN THE 70S...WITH MID TO UPPER 70S POSSIBLE ON WED. BREEZY CONDITIONS WILL ALSO DEVELOP OVER PARTS OF THE AREA WITH GUSTS 20-30 MPH OVER PARTS OF THE AREA THE NEXT FEW AFTERNOONS. SEE FIRE WEATHER SECTION REGARDING POSSIBLE RED FLAG CONDITIONS THE NEXT FEW DAYS. THURSDAY-THURSDAY NIGHT...A STRONG TROUGH WILL MOVE ALONG THE CANADA US BORDER ON WED NIGHT AND THURSDAY...WITH A WEAKER LESS AMPLIFIED SHORTWAVE MOVING ACROSS THE SOUTHERN STREAM. THE NORTHERN TROUGH WILL KICK A COLD FRONT SOUTH OVER THE CWA THURSDAY...WITH WINDY CONDITIONS EXPECTED THROUGH WED AFTERNOON. WE COULD SEE WIND ADVISORY CRITERIA MET WITH BL WINDS 27-29KT AND H85 WINDS AROUND 40KT. ITS STILL TOO EARLY FOR AN NPW...HOWEVER I DID INCREASE WINDS TO REFLECT CURRENT THINKING. BEYOND FORCING IMMEDIATELY ALONG FRONT THE BEST LARGE SCALE ASCENT IS WELL NORTH AND SOUTHEAST. THE AIR MASS ALSO REMAINS VERY DRY ACROSS CWA...SO IM NOT ANTICIPATING ANY PRECIP. WITH FROPA DURING THE DAY HIGH TEMPS THU ARE TRICKY...HOWEVER THEY STILL SHOULD BE ABOVE NORMAL WITH A GRADIENT OF UPPER 50S IN THE NORTH TO MID/UPPER 60S IN THE SOUTH. NEAR TO BELOW NORMAL LOW TEMPS ARE EXPECTED THU NIGHT BEHIND THE FRONT WITH VALUES RANGING FROM THE UPPER TEENS TO MID 20S. .LONG TERM...(FRIDAY THROUGH MONDAY) ISSUED AT 205 AM MST TUE NOV 20 2012 AT LEAST EARLY ON MODELS ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE PREVIOUS FORECAST. COOLEST DAY WILL BE ON FRIDAY WITH MODERATION FOR SATURDAY. THEN CHANGES AND INCONSISTENCIES BEGIN AFTER THAT. NEWER MODEL DATA...ESPECIALLY THE ECMWF...IS NOW MORE PROGRESSIVE AND NOT AS STRONG WITH INCOMING UPPER TROUGH AT THE BEGINNING OF NEXT WEEK. GFS IS MUCH FASTER AND OLDER CANADIAN WAS MORE IN LINE WITH THE ECMWF. IN ADDITION THE MODEL DATA BRINGS IN NOT JUST ONE SHORTWAVE BUT A SERIES OF SHORTWAVE TROUGHS IN THE SUNDAY NIGHT THROUGH MONDAY NIGHT TIME PERIOD. THIS NEWER DATA IS FITTING THE PATTERN WE HAVE BEEN SEEING THIS SEASON AND IN FACT THIS YEAR. THE TROUGH DOES NOT COME THROUGH IN ONE NICE ORGANIZED SYSTEM BUT IN A SERIES OF SHORTWAVE TROUGHS. ENSEMBLE DATA SUPPORTS THE MORE PROGRESSIVE AND MULTIPLE SHORTWAVE SOLUTION AS WELL. THESE MULTIPLE SHORTWAVES HAVE TENDED TO SCOUR OUT THE DEEPER MOISTURE THAT THE MODELS THINK IS THERE. BELIEVE THAT THIS IS THE CASE HERE AS WELL. PLUS THE FRONT COMES THROUGH RATHER EARLY AND BY SUNDAY NIGHT IS A GREAT DISTANCE SOUTH OF THE AREA. NO SIGNIFICANT JET LIFT LOOKS TO BE INVOLVED AS WELL. AS A RESULT OF ALL THIS AND COLLABORATION...KEPT THE SMALL AREAS OF SLIGHT CHANCE POPS SUNDAY NIGHT AND MONDAY THE INIT GAVE ME AND REDUCED THE CHANCE POPS FOR MONDAY NIGHT DOWN TO SLIGHT CHANCE. BIG DIFFERENCES SHOWING UP IN THE LOW LEVEL THERMAL FIELD BEGINNING ON SUNDAY. THE ECMWF WAS NOT AS COLD AS THE FRIGID GFS. THE ECMWF TENDED TO BE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD AND ALSO MATCHED UP WELL WITH THE CRH_INIT SO LEFT THE TEMPERATURES ALONE AS RESULT OF THAT AND THE MODEL DIFFERENCES. && .AVIATION...(FOR THE 18Z TAFS THROUGH 18Z WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON) ISSUED AT 1036 AM MST TUE NOV 20 2012 VFR CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED AT KGLD AND KMCK FOR THE NEXT 24 HOURS. RELATIVELY LIGHT SOUTH TO SOUTHWEST WINDS ARE EXPECTED WITH A SURFACE TROUGH IN EASTERN COLORADO. && .FIRE WEATHER... ISSUED AT 205 AM MST TUE NOV 20 2012 RH VALUES THIS AFTERNOON WILL RANGE FROM 15 TO 20 PERCENT. WITH WIND GUSTS 20-25 MPH WE WILL BE VERY CLOSE TO RFW CRITERIA. FOR NOW I AM NOT CONFIDENT WE WILL MEET THE 3HR REQUIREMENT...NO RFW PLANNED FOR NOW. CRITICAL FIRE WEATHER CONDITIONS WILL ALSO BE POSSIBLE WED AFTERNOON WHEN RH VALUES BETWEEN 10 AND 20 PERCENT ARE EXPECTED ALONG AND NORTHWEST OF A LINE FROM OBERLIN TO LEOTI KS. WINDS ARE GOING TO BE LIGHTER IN THE WEST...WITH STRONGEST WINDS CURRENTLY WHERE RH VALUES ARE FORECAST TO BE HIGHER. MOST LOCATIONS SHOULD BE OUTSIDE OF RFW CRITERIA OTHER THAN A NARROW CORRIDOR SOUTH OF INTERSTATE 70 WHERE THERE COULD SEE A CROSSOVER OF RH/WIND. THIS IS GOING TO BE CLOSE...SO ITS WORTH MONITORING. && .GLD WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... KS...NONE. CO...NONE. NE...NONE. && $$ SHORT TERM...DR LONG TERM...BULLER AVIATION...032 FIRE WEATHER...DR
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NWS GOODLAND KS
411 AM MST TUE NOV 20 2012 .SHORT TERM...(TODAY THROUGH THURSDAY NIGHT) ISSUED AT 205 AM MST TUE NOV 20 2012 LATEST WV IMAGERY AND RUC H5 ANALYSIS SHOW A RIDGE EXTENDING NORTH ACROSS THE CENTRAL AND HIGH PLAINS WITH A LARGE TROUGH JUST OFF THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST COAST. TODAY-WEDNESDAY...WITH SHORTWAVE RIDGE IN PLACE TODAY AND SW FLOW ALOFT AND LARGE SCALE SUBSIDENCE ON WEDNESDAY DRY CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED. WITH WAA ON EASTERN EXTENT OF LEE TROUGH STRENGTHENING THE NEXT FEW DAYS...WE SHOULD SEE TEMPERATURES IN THE 70S...WITH MID TO UPPER 70S POSSIBLE ON WED. BREEZY CONDITIONS WILL ALSO DEVELOP OVER PARTS OF THE AREA WITH GUSTS 20-30 MPH OVER PARTS OF THE AREA THE NEXT FEW AFTERNOONS. SEE FIRE WEATHER SECTION REGARDING POSSIBLE RED FLAG CONDITIONS THE NEXT FEW DAYS. THURSDAY-THURSDAY NIGHT...A STRONG TROUGH WILL MOVE ALONG THE CANADA US BORDER ON WED NIGHT AND THURSDAY...WITH A WEAKER LESS AMPLIFIED SHORTWAVE MOVING ACROSS THE SOUTHERN STREAM. THE NORTHERN TROUGH WILL KICK A COLD FRONT SOUTH OVER THE CWA THURSDAY...WITH WINDY CONDITIONS EXPECTED THROUGH WED AFTERNOON. WE COULD SEE WIND ADVISORY CRITERIA MET WITH BL WINDS 27-29KT AND H85 WINDS AROUND 40KT. ITS STILL TOO EARLY FOR AN NPW...HOWEVER I DID INCREASE WINDS TO REFLECT CURRENT THINKING. BEYOND FORCING IMMEDIATELY ALONG FRONT THE BEST LARGE SCALE ASCENT IS WELL NORTH AND SOUTHEAST. THE AIR MASS ALSO REMAINS VERY DRY ACROSS CWA...SO IM NOT ANTICIPATING ANY PRECIP. WITH FROPA DURING THE DAY HIGH TEMPS THU ARE TRICKY...HOWEVER THEY STILL SHOULD BE ABOVE NORMAL WITH A GRADIENT OF UPPER 50S IN THE NORTH TO MID/UPPER 60S IN THE SOUTH. NEAR TO BELOW NORMAL LOW TEMPS ARE EXPECTED THU NIGHT BEHIND THE FRONT WITH VALUES RANGING FROM THE UPPER TEENS TO MID 20S. .LONG TERM...(FRIDAY THROUGH MONDAY) ISSUED AT 205 AM MST TUE NOV 20 2012 AT LEAST EARLY ON MODELS ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE PREVIOUS FORECAST. COOLEST DAY WILL BE ON FRIDAY WITH MODERATION FOR SATURDAY. THEN CHANGES AND INCONSISTENCIES BEGIN AFTER THAT. NEWER MODEL DATA...ESPECIALLY THE ECMWF...IS NOW MORE PROGRESSIVE AND NOT AS STRONG WITH INCOMING UPPER TROUGH AT THE BEGINNING OF NEXT WEEK. GFS IS MUCH FASTER AND OLDER CANADIAN WAS MORE IN LINE WITH THE ECMWF. IN ADDITION THE MODEL DATA BRINGS IN NOT JUST ONE SHORTWAVE BUT A SERIES OF SHORTWAVE TROUGHS IN THE SUNDAY NIGHT THROUGH MONDAY NIGHT TIME PERIOD. THIS NEWER DATA IS FITTING THE PATTERN WE HAVE BEEN SEEING THIS SEASON AND IN FACT THIS YEAR. THE TROUGH DOES NOT COME THROUGH IN ONE NICE ORGANIZED SYSTEM BUT IN A SERIES OF SHORTWAVE TROUGHS. ENSEMBLE DATA SUPPORTS THE MORE PROGRESSIVE AND MULTIPLE SHORTWAVE SOLUTION AS WELL. THESE MULTIPLE SHORTWAVES HAVE TENDED TO SCOUR OUT THE DEEPER MOISTURE THAT THE MODELS THINK IS THERE. BELIEVE THAT THIS IS THE CASE HERE AS WELL. PLUS THE FRONT COMES THROUGH RATHER EARLY AND BY SUNDAY NIGHT IS A GREAT DISTANCE SOUTH OF THE AREA. NO SIGNIFICANT JET LIFT LOOKS TO BE INVOLVED AS WELL. AS A RESULT OF ALL THIS AND COLLABORATION...KEPT THE SMALL AREAS OF SLIGHT CHANCE POPS SUNDAY NIGHT AND MONDAY THE INIT GAVE ME AND REDUCED THE CHANCE POPS FOR MONDAY NIGHT DOWN TO SLIGHT CHANCE. BIG DIFFERENCES SHOWING UP IN THE LOW LEVEL THERMAL FIELD BEGINNING ON SUNDAY. THE ECMWF WAS NOT AS COLD AS THE FRIGID GFS. THE ECMWF TENDED TO BE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD AND ALSO MATCHED UP WELL WITH THE CRH_INIT SO LEFT THE TEMPERATURES ALONE AS RESULT OF THAT AND THE MODEL DIFFERENCES. && .AVIATION...(FOR THE 12Z TAFS THROUGH 12Z WEDNESDAY MORNING) ISSUED AT 411 AM MST TUE NOV 20 2012 VFR CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED THROUGH THE PERIOD AT BOTH KGLD AND KMCK. LIGHT SOUTHWEST WINDS WILL SHIFT TO THE SOUTH AND INCREASE AROUND MIDDAY AT KGLD AND EARLY THIS AFTERNOON AT KMCK AS A LEE TROUGH STRENGTHENS OVER EASTERN COLORADO. WIND GUSTS THIS AFTERNOON 20-25KT WILL BE POSSIBLE WITH STRONGEST GUSTS AT KGLD. WINDS WILL DIMINISH AROUND SUNSET AS DAYTIME HEATING COMES TO AN END. && .FIRE WEATHER... ISSUED AT 205 AM MST TUE NOV 20 2012 RH VALUES THIS AFTERNOON WILL RANGE FROM 15 TO 20 PERCENT. WITH WIND GUSTS 20-25 MPH WE WILL BE VERY CLOSE TO RFW CRITERIA. FOR NOW I AM NOT CONFIDENT WE WILL MEET THE 3HR REQUIREMENT...NO RFW PLANNED FOR NOW. CRITICAL FIRE WEATHER CONDITIONS WILL ALSO BE POSSIBLE WED AFTERNOON WHEN RH VALUES BETWEEN 10 AND 20 PERCENT ARE EXPECTED ALONG AND NORTHWEST OF A LINE FROM OBERLIN TO LEOTI KS. WINDS ARE GOING TO BE LIGHTER IN THE WEST...WITH STRONGEST WINDS CURRENTLY WHERE RH VALUES ARE FORECAST TO BE HIGHER. MOST LOCATIONS SHOULD BE OUTSIDE OF RFW CRITERIA OTHER THAN A NARROW CORRIDOR SOUTH OF INTERSTATE 70 WHERE THERE COULD SEE A CROSSOVER OF RH/WIND. THIS IS GOING TO BE CLOSE...SO ITS WORTH MONITORING. && .GLD WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... KS...NONE. CO...NONE. NE...NONE. && $$ SHORT TERM...DR LONG TERM...BULLER AVIATION...DR FIRE WEATHER...DR
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NWS GOODLAND KS
205 AM MST TUE NOV 20 2012 .SHORT TERM...(TODAY THROUGH THURSDAY NIGHT) ISSUED AT 205 AM MST TUE NOV 20 2012 LATEST WV IMAGERY AND RUC H5 ANALYSIS SHOW A RIDGE EXTENDING NORTH ACROSS THE CENTRAL AND HIGH PLAINS WITH A LARGE TROUGH JUST OFF THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST COAST. TODAY-WEDNESDAY...WITH SHORTWAVE RIDGE IN PLACE TODAY AND SW FLOW ALOFT AND LARGE SCALE SUBSIDENCE ON WEDNESDAY DRY CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED. WITH WAA ON EASTERN EXTENT OF LEE TROUGH STRENGTHENING THE NEXT FEW DAYS...WE SHOULD SEE TEMPERATURES IN THE 70S...WITH MID TO UPPER 70S POSSIBLE ON WED. BREEZY CONDITIONS WILL ALSO DEVELOP OVER PARTS OF THE AREA WITH GUSTS 20-30 MPH OVER PARTS OF THE AREA THE NEXT FEW AFTERNOONS. SEE FIRE WEATHER SECTION REGARDING POSSIBLE RED FLAG CONDITIONS THE NEXT FEW DAYS. THURSDAY-THURSDAY NIGHT...A STRONG TROUGH WILL MOVE ALONG THE CANADA US BORDER ON WED NIGHT AND THURSDAY...WITH A WEAKER LESS AMPLIFIED SHORTWAVE MOVING ACROSS THE SOUTHERN STREAM. THE NORTHERN TROUGH WILL KICK A COLD FRONT SOUTH OVER THE CWA THURSDAY...WITH WINDY CONDITIONS EXPECTED THROUGH WED AFTERNOON. WE COULD SEE WIND ADVISORY CRITERIA MET WITH BL WINDS 27-29KT AND H85 WINDS AROUND 40KT. ITS STILL TOO EARLY FOR AN NPW...HOWEVER I DID INCREASE WINDS TO REFLECT CURRENT THINKING. BEYOND FORCING IMMEDIATELY ALONG FRONT THE BEST LARGE SCALE ASCENT IS WELL NORTH AND SOUTHEAST. THE AIR MASS ALSO REMAINS VERY DRY ACROSS CWA...SO IM NOT ANTICIPATING ANY PRECIP. WITH FROPA DURING THE DAY HIGH TEMPS THU ARE TRICKY...HOWEVER THEY STILL SHOULD BE ABOVE NORMAL WITH A GRADIENT OF UPPER 50S IN THE NORTH TO MID/UPPER 60S IN THE SOUTH. NEAR TO BELOW NORMAL LOW TEMPS ARE EXPECTED THU NIGHT BEHIND THE FRONT WITH VALUES RANGING FROM THE UPPER TEENS TO MID 20S. .LONG TERM...(FRIDAY THROUGH MONDAY) ISSUED AT 205 AM MST TUE NOV 20 2012 AT LEAST EARLY ON MODELS ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE PREVIOUS FORECAST. COOLEST DAY WILL BE ON FRIDAY WITH MODERATION FOR SATURDAY. THEN CHANGES AND INCONSISTENCIES BEGIN AFTER THAT. NEWER MODEL DATA...ESPECIALLY THE ECMWF...IS NOW MORE PROGRESSIVE AND NOT AS STRONG WITH INCOMING UPPER TROUGH AT THE BEGINNING OF NEXT WEEK. GFS IS MUCH FASTER AND OLDER CANADIAN WAS MORE IN LINE WITH THE ECMWF. IN ADDITION THE MODEL DATA BRINGS IN NOT JUST ONE SHORTWAVE BUT A SERIES OF SHORTWAVE TROUGHS IN THE SUNDAY NIGHT THROUGH MONDAY NIGHT TIME PERIOD. THIS NEWER DATA IS FITTING THE PATTERN WE HAVE BEEN SEEING THIS SEASON AND IN FACT THIS YEAR. THE TROUGH DOES NOT COME THROUGH IN ONE NICE ORGANIZED SYSTEM BUT IN A SERIES OF SHORTWAVE TROUGHS. ENSEMBLE DATA SUPPORTS THE MORE PROGRESSIVE AND MULTIPLE SHORTWAVE SOLUTION AS WELL. THESE MULTIPLE SHORTWAVES HAVE TENDED TO SCOUR OUT THE DEEPER MOISTURE THAT THE MODELS THINK IS THERE. BELIEVE THAT THIS IS THE CASE HERE AS WELL. PLUS THE FRONT COMES THROUGH RATHER EARLY AND BY SUNDAY NIGHT IS A GREAT DISTANCE SOUTH OF THE AREA. NO SIGNIFICANT JET LIFT LOOKS TO BE INVOLVED AS WELL. AS A RESULT OF ALL THIS AND COLLABORATION...KEPT THE SMALL AREAS OF SLIGHT CHANCE POPS SUNDAY NIGHT AND MONDAY THE INIT GAVE ME AND REDUCED THE CHANCE POPS FOR MONDAY NIGHT DOWN TO SLIGHT CHANCE. BIG DIFFERENCES SHOWING UP IN THE LOW LEVEL THERMAL FIELD BEGINNING ON SUNDAY. THE ECMWF WAS NOT AS COLD AS THE FRIGID GFS. THE ECMWF TENDED TO BE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD AND ALSO MATCHED UP WELL WITH THE CRH_INIT SO LEFT THE TEMPERATURES ALONE AS RESULT OF THAT AND THE MODEL DIFFERENCES. && .AVIATION...(FOR THE 00Z TAFS THROUGH 00Z TUESDAY EVENING) ISSUED AT 429 PM MST MON NOV 19 2012 VFR CONDITIONS WILL PREVAIL THROUGH THE PERIOD AS A RIDGE OF HIGHER PRESSURE MOVES EAST OF THE ROCKIES AND AMPLIFIES OVER THE CENTRAL HIGH PLAINS ON TUESDAY. HIGH CLOUDS WILL DISSIPATE WITH SKIES BECOMING CLEAR AFTER 06Z. LIGHT AND VARIABLE WINDS WILL BECOME LIGHT SOUTHWEST AFTER 06Z AND WILL BECOME GUSTY AFTER 18Z TUESDAY AFTERNOON AS A LEE TROUGH BEGINS TO DEEPEN ALONG THE FRONT RANGE. && .FIRE WEATHER... ISSUED AT 205 AM MST TUE NOV 20 2012 RH VALUES THIS AFTERNOON WILL RANGE FROM 15 TO 20 PERCENT. WITH WIND GUSTS 20-25 MPH WE WILL BE VERY CLOSE TO RFW CRITERIA. FOR NOW I AM NOT CONFIDENT WE WILL MEET THE 3HR REQUIREMENT...NO RFW PLANNED FOR NOW. CRITICAL FIRE WEATHER CONDITIONS WILL ALSO BE POSSIBLE WED AFTERNOON WHEN RH VALUES BETWEEN 10 AND 20 PERCENT ARE EXPECTED ALONG AND NORTHWEST OF A LINE FROM OBERLIN TO LEOTI KS. WINDS ARE GOING TO BE LIGHTER IN THE WEST...WITH STRONGEST WINDS CURRENTLY WHERE RH VALUES ARE FORECAST TO BE HIGHER. MOST LOCATIONS SHOULD BE OUTSIDE OF RFW CRITERIA OTHER THAN A NARROW CORRIDOR SOUTH OF INTERSTATE 70 WHERE THERE COULD SEE A CROSSOVER OF RH/WIND. THIS IS GOING TO BE CLOSE...SO ITS WORTH MONITORING. && .GLD WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... KS...NONE. CO...NONE. NE...NONE. && $$ SHORT TERM...DR LONG TERM...BULLER AVIATION...LOCKHART FIRE WEATHER...DR
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NWS PADUCAH KY
1131 PM CST MON NOV 19 2012 .UPDATE... ISSUED AT 1131 PM CST MON NOV 19 2012 THE AVIATION SECTION HAS BEEN UPDATED FOR THE 06Z TAF ISSUANCE. UPDATE ISSUED AT 849 PM CST MON NOV 19 2012 ALTHOUGH NOT REGISTERED THROUGH SURFACE OBSERVATIONS...THE KVWX RADAR HAS BEEN DETECTING ENOUGH 20+ DBZ RETURNS AT 0.5 DEGREE ELEVATION TO WARRANT THE POTENTIAL FOR AT LEAST ISOLATED SHOWERS OR SPRINKLES REACHING THE SURFACE. WITH THIS IN MIND AND WITH THE ASSISTANCE OF THE HRRR 1KM REFLECTIVITY GUIDANCE...ADDED A SMALL POP/WEATHER CHANCE MAINLY OVER THE WEST KENTUCKY PENNYRILE THROUGH 05Z /11 PM CST/. UPPER AIR CHARTS CONTINUE TO SHOW A SERIES OF MINOR WAVES ROTATING INTO THE BROAD TROUGH WITH THE BASE WEST OF THE WFO PAH FORECAST AREA. DESPITE FLUCTUATIONS IN CLOUD COVER FOR THE REMAINDER OF TONIGHT...ADJUSTED THE NET OPAQUE CLOUD COVER TO MOVE THE CLOUDS WITH THE MEAN FLOW THIS EVENING AND OVERNIGHT. GIVEN THAT SCENARIO...HAD TO INCREASE MINIMUM TEMPERATURES 3-4 DEGREES. IN ADDITION...THE SOUTHERLY WIND COMPONENT SHOULD PERSIST FURTHER INTO THE NIGHT AS AN AGEOSTROPHIC RESPONSE TO THE APPROACHING SHORTWAVES. THIS SHOULD HELP BUOY TEMPERATURES AT MOST LOCATIONS OVERNIGHT. && .SHORT TERM...(THIS EVENING THROUGH TUESDAY NIGHT) ISSUED AT 149 PM CST MON NOV 19 2012 CLOUDS AND WEAK SHORT WAVE MOVING THROUGH THE CWA AT THIS TIME. WATER VAPOR IMAGERY CLEARLY SHOWS DRIER AIR WORKING INTO SEMO WHICH IS HELPING TO DRY UP ANY PRECIPITATION LEFT FROM THIS MORNING. MAY HAVE HAD A FEW SPRINKLES OVER RIPLEY AND CARTER COUNTIES...BUT THAT WAS ABOUT IT. THE CLOUDS HAVE AFFECTED TEMPERATURES WITH SEMO REMAINING AROUND 60. THIS CLOUD BANK WILL MOVE ACROSS THE AREA TONIGHT WHICH SHOULD KEEP TEMPERATURES UP COMPARED TO LAST NIGHT. KEPT THE DRY FORECAST GOING AS THE LOWEST 5K FT REMAIN DRY. A SHORTWAVE SEEN ON SATELLITE OVER THE NORTHERN PLAIN WILL MOVE THROUGH OUR AREA ON TUESDAY IN THE FORM OF A WEAK COLD FRONT. THE FRONT SHOULD MOVE THROUGH DURING THE LATE MORNING INTO THE AFTERNOON HOURS WHICH SHOULD ALLOW FOR DECENT HEATING AHEAD OF THE FRONT EXCEPT FOR THE EXTREME EASTERN SECTIONS AS THE CLOUDS ARE EXPECTED TO HANG ON THERE INTO THE EVENING HOURS. NO PRECIPITATION IS EXPECTED WITH THIS FRONTAL PASSAGE. DRIER AIR MOVING MOVES IN ON WEDNESDAY AND WITH CLEAR SKIES AND LIGHT WIND SOME FOG POSSIBLE OVER WESTERN KENTUCKY WEDNESDAY NIGHT INTO THURSDAY. .LONG TERM...(WEDNESDAY THROUGH MONDAY) ISSUED AT 149 PM CST MON NOV 19 2012 WE WILL START OUT ON THURSDAY WITH AN UPPER LEVEL RIDGE OVERHEAD...THAT WILL BE MOVING EASTWARD WITH TIME. THE 12Z GFS CONTINUES TO BE FASTER...THAN PREVIOUS RUNS AND THE ECMWF IN MOVING THE RIDGE EAST AS THE NEXT SHORTWAVE TROUGH APPROACHES FROM THE WEST. BY 00Z FRI...THE 00Z ECMWF STILL HAS THE UPPER RIDGE OVER THE CWA WITH THE IMPENDING SHORTWAVE ACROSS EASTERN KS/OK. THE 12Z GFS HAS THE UPPER RIDGE AXIS OVER THE APPALACHIANS AT THAT SAME TIME WITH THE SHORTWAVE TROUGH KNOCKING ON OUR WESTERN FRINGES. THE GFS HAS SPENT SEVERAL RUNS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHETHER THE WESTERN FRINGES OF THE CWA WILL SEE ANY PRECIP PRIOR TO 00Z FRIDAY...BUT CONSENSUS SAYS THAT THINGS WILL PROBABLY STAY DRY. IN FACT...THE 00Z/12Z ECMWF KEEPS US DRY THROUGH 06Z AND THIS MODEL HAS BEEN FLIP FLOPPING ON THAT FOR A WHILE NOW TOO...WHETHER TO START PRECIP ON THURSDAY EVENING OR OVERNIGHT. THE GFS INDICATE RAIN SHOWERS SHOULD BE MOVING IN FROM THE WEST DURING THE EVENING HOURS ON THANKSGIVING...MOVING EAST DURING THE OVERNIGHT HOURS. THE GFS HAS HAD A PROBLEM OVER THE PAST 2 DAYS...FIGURING OUT HOW LONG THE PRECIP WAS GOING TO LINGER ON FRIDAY. RIGHT NOW...THE 12Z GFS INDICATE THAT FRIDAY MORNING MIGHT END UP BEING DRY. THE SLOWER 00Z/12Z ECMWF STILL HOLDS ONTO RAIN CHANCES THOUGH THROUGH THE MORNING HOURS...AT LEAST IN THE SOUTHEASTERN HALF. THINK THE GOING FORECAST RESEMBLES A GOOD BLEND OF SEVERAL DAYS OF MODEL RUNS AND IS A GOOD COMPROMISE TO ALL OF THOSE RUNS OF THE GFS/ECMWF. THE BOTTOM LINE: CHANCES FOR RAIN WILL BEGIN TO INCREASE AFTER 00Z FRIDAY...AND CONTINUE THROUGH THE NIGHT...AND BEGIN TO TAPER OFF THROUGHOUT THE MORNING HOURS ON FRIDAY. RAINFALL AMTS LOOK TO BE RATHER LIGHT AT THIS POINT...AND GFS ENSEMBLES SUPPORT THIS AS WELL. ON FRIDAY...A NORTHERN STREAM SHORTWAVE WILL BE MOVING ACROSS THE NORTHERN PLAINS AND DOWN INTO THE UPPER MIDWESTERN STATES...AND BRING A NICE POCKET OF COLD AIR WITH IT. AS HAS BEEN THE CASE FOR SEVERAL DAYS NOW...THE ECMWF CONTINUES TO BE DEEPER WITH THIS TROUGH AND HENCE BRINGS THE COLDER AIR FURTHER SOUTH. IN FACT...IT IS A PRETTY POTENT POCKET OF COLD AIR...WITH THE ECMWF SHOWING H850 TEMPS AROUND -11C DEG ACROSS OUR FAR NORTH. HOWEVER...IT APPEARS AS THOUGH THE 12Z GFS HAS LOCKED INTO SOMETHING NOW SINCE IT TOO BRINGS COLDER AIR FURTHER SOUTH. IT IS NOT QUITE LIKE THE ECMWF BUT AT LEAST IT IS CLOSER. PLUS THE GFS ENSEMBLES ARE COLDER THAN THE OPERATIONAL GFS. WE WILL DEFINITELY SEE A DROP IN TEMPS ON FRIDAY AS COLD AIR ADVECTION WILL BE WELL UNDERWAY WITH BRISK NORTHERLY FLOW AT THE SFC. IN FACT...MODELS HAVE BEEN TRENDING COLDER WITH EACH MODEL RUN...SO WILL LOWER HIGHS. HIGHS ON SATURDAY WILL BE QUITE COOL FROM WHAT WE HAVE BEEN USED TO THIS WEEK AND COULD END UP BEING 10 DEG COLDER THAN ON FRIDAY...AS HIGH PRESSURE BUILDS IN AT THE SFC. THE COLDEST TEMPS WILL BE IN OUR EASTERN SECTIONS...WHERE SOME OF THE GUIDANCE IS GIVING HIGHS ONLY IN THE LOW 40S. THERE IS NOW QUITE A BIT OF DIFFERENCE BTWN THE GFS AND ECMWF FOR THE SYSTEM ON SUNDAY AND MONDAY. THE 12Z GFS SHOWS THE HIGH MOVING EAST AS A MOISTURE STARVED COLD FRONT MOVES INTO THE REGION ON SUNDAY. HOWEVER...ON SUNDAY NIGHT...MOISTURE BEGINS TO RETURN NORTH IN EARNEST AND A WARM FRONT STARTS DEVELOPING TO OUR S/SW...WHICH ENDS UP CAUSING SOME OVERRUNNING PRECIP ACROSS OUR SOUTHERN AREAS LATE SUNDAY NIGHT AND INTO MONDAY. THE 00Z ECMWF IS SLOW TO MOVE THE SFC HIGH EAST BUT FINALLY DOES SO SUNDAY AFTERNOON/NIGHT...ALLOWING FOR SOUTHERLY FLOW TO TAKE OVER AND MOISTURE SLOWLY INCREASE OVER THE AREA. HOWEVER...ANY CHANCES FOR RAIN LOOK TO HOLD OFF UNTIL MONDAY/MONDAY NIGHT WITH THE ARRIVAL OF THE FRONT. STILL A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY HERE BUT WHAT DOES SEEM PROBABLE AT THIS POINT IS SEEING AN INCREASE IN TEMPERATURES ON SUNDAY AND MONDAY...BUT WE WILL HAVE TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS WITH FUTURE RUNS ON THE NEXT CHANCE FOR PRECIP. FOR NOW...HAVE ADDED A CHANCE FOR MONDAY. && .AVIATION...(FOR THE 06Z TAFS THROUGH 06Z TUESDAY NIGHT) ISSUED AT 1131 PM CST MON NOV 19 2012 CEILINGS ARE EXPECTED TO FILL IN IN THE 4-6KFT LAYER ACROSS ALL SITES BY MORNING. CEILINGS MAY SLIGHTLY LOWER THROUGH THE DAY AS A WEAK COLD FRONT APPROACHES THE AREA. THIS FRONT IS LITTLE MORE THAN A WIND SHIFT AND A WEAK ONE AT THAT...SO IT WILL BE OF LITTLE CONSEQUENCE TO THE TAFS. WILL SHOW A SHIFT FROM WEST SOUTHWEST TO NORTH NORTHWEST AT ALL SITES FROM 21Z-23Z...BUT THIS TIMING COULD BE EARLIER OR LATER. WILL HAVE TO WATCH FOR SOME CEILINGS DROPPING JUST INTO MVFR TERRITORY NEAR THE FRONT...BUT FOR NOW DO NOT SEE ENOUGH EVIDENCE IN THE LATEST GUIDANCE TO INSERT IT IN THE FORECAST. && .PAH WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... IL...NONE. MO...NONE. IN...NONE. KY...NONE. && $$ UPDATE...DRS SHORT TERM...PS LONG TERM....CW AVIATION...DRS
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS MARQUETTE MI
641 PM EST WED NOV 21 2012 .SHORT TERM...(THIS EVENING THROUGH THURSDAY) ISSUED AT 437 PM EST WED NOV 21 2012 12Z RAOBS/LATEST WV IMAGERY AND RUC ANALYSIS SHOW UPR RDG EXTENDING NEWD FM THE SRN PLAINS INTO THE GRT LKS BTWN A TROF ALONG THE E COAST AND ANOTHER ALONG THE W COAST. THE AIRMASS ALOFT IS QUITE WARM AND DRY OVER THE UPR GRT LKS...BUT LO CLDS ENHANCED BY RADIATIONAL COOLING LAST NGT THAT FORMED UNDER SHARP LLVL INVRN SHOWN ON LOCAL 12Z RAOBS ARE PROVING TO BE QUITE RESILIENT OVER THE SCENTRAL AND ERN CWA WITH ADDED MOISTENING OFF LK MI IN SSW FLOW BTWN HI PRES IN THE MID ATLANTIC AND LOWER PRES IN THE PLAINS. THERE IS NO FOG/ST NOTED TO THE W...BUT PLENTY OF HI CLDS ARE STREAMING ENEWD FM THE PLAINS INTO THE UPR LKS IN THE WSW FLOW ALF. A POTENT SHRTWV IS COMING ASHORE IN THE PAC NW. LATE THIS AFTN...LO CLDS PRESENT EARLY THIS AFTN OVER THE SCENTRAL AND E WILL BREAK UP THRU THE AFTN IN THE PRESENCE OF SOME DIURNAL HEATING. THESE CLDS WL BE MOST RESILIENT OVER THE FAR E DOWNWIND OF LK MI AS STLT IMAGERY SHOWS ST DECK EXTENDING ALMOST THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF THE LK. TNGT...ALTHOUGH THE ST SHOULD BE GONE THIS EVNG EXCEPT OVER THE FAR E...SUSPECT THIS LO CLD WL FORM AGAIN TNGT WITH NOCTURNAL COOLING AND PERSISTENT SSW FLOW/LO INVRN SHOWN ON FCST SDNGS. CONFIDENCE IN THIS SCENARIO IS HIER SINCE THE 12Z NAM/LOCAL WRF-ARW SHOW HIER H95-9 SPECIFIC HUMIDITY ADVECTING INTO THE AREA OVERNGT IN THE STRENGTHENING LLVL SSW FLOW. H925 WINDS AS HI AS 30-40KTS BY LATE TNGT SHOULD LIMIT THE POTENTIAL FOR DENSER FOG...BUT STILL ADDED SOME PATCHY FOG OVER THE SCENTRAL AND E AWAY FM MORE PRONOUNCED DOWNSLOPE WARMING OVER THE NW AND NCENTRAL AS MODELS HINT AT A PERIOD OF LIGHTER WINDS THIS EVNG THAT MIGHT AUGMENT A PERIOD OF QUICK COOLING. MIN TEMPS WL REMAIN WELL ABV NORMAL WITH INCRSG WINDS/ QUITE A BIT OF HI CLD...ESPECIALLY IN THE DOWNSLOPE AREAS OVER THE W AND NCENTRAL NEAR LK SUP. THANKSGIVING DAY...WITH DIURNAL HEATING...EXPECT LO CLDS/FOG IN THE MRNG TO BREAK UP BY NOON. BUT WITH PERSISTENT SSW FLOW...THE ST WL MOST LIKELY LINGER LONGER INTO THE AFTN OVER THE E DOWNSTREAM OF LK MI. ATTENTION THEN TURNS TO TIMING/IMPACT OF SHRTWV NOW MOVING INTO THE PAC NW. MODELS SHOW THIS DISTURBANCE MOVING EWD TO OVER MN BY 00Z FRI. ALTHOUGH ASSOCIATED SFC LO PRES IS FCST TO MOVE INTO ONTARIO JUST N OF LK SUP WITH ATTENDANT COLD FNT PROGGED TO REACH CENTRAL UPR MI BY 00Z...DEEP LARGER SCALE FORCING IS FCST TO HANG TO THE W THRU THAT TIME. WITH LINGERING MID LVL DRY AIR...ANY ACCOMPANYING PCPN SHOULD PUSH NO FARTHER THAN WRN LK SUP UNTIL AFT 00Z. OTRW... LOOK FOR ANOTHER DAY OF WELL ABV NORMAL TEMPS UNDER H85 THERMAL RDG UP TO 11C RIGHT AHEAD OF THE FNT. BUT TEMPS OVER THE W SHOULD FALL IN THE AFTN FOLLOWING THE COLD FROPA WITH H85 TEMPS PROGGED TO TUMBLE TOWARD 0C AT IWD BY 00Z FRI. .LONG TERM...(THURSDAY NIGHT THROUGH WEDNESDAY) ISSUED AT 437 PM EST WED NOV 21 2012 MODEL HAVE COME INTO MUCH BETTER OVERALL AGREEMENT RELATING TO THE SYSTEM THAT WILL BRING SNOW TO MUCH OF THE AREA THU NIGHT INTO SAT...WITH MAINLY SMALLER SCALE/TIMING DIFFERENCES THAT ARE NOT OUT OF THE NORM FOR THE TIME FRAME OF THE EVENT. A GENERAL MODEL CONSENSUS WAS USED...WITH MOST FORECAST ALIGNMENT WITH THE 12Z/21 NAM/GFS AND TO A SOMEWHAT LESSER DEGREE THE 00Z/21 ECMWF FOCUSED MAJORITY OF ATTENTION ON THE SYSTEM THU NIGHT INTO SAT GIVEN HIGHER IMPACTS FROM POST THANKSGIVING TRAVEL/ACTIVITIES. AT 00Z FRI...MODELS SHOW THE 500MB SHORTWAVE IN THE BEGINNING STAGES OF BEING CLOSED OFF OVER NW MN WITH A 1000MB SFC LOW OVER CENTRAL LAKE SUPERIOR...AND A SFC COLD FRONT FROM THE HURON MOUNTAINS TO IRON OR DICKINSON COUNTY. 850MB TEMPS WILL BE JUST FALLING BELOW 0C OVER FAR WRN UPPER MI...BUT WILL STILL BY AROUND 6C OVER THE ERN CWA. THE MID LEVEL LOW WILL CONTINUE TO STRENGTHEN AS IT MOVES TO THE CENTRAL CWA BY 12Z FRI /AVG LOCATION AMONG PREFERRED MODELS...THERE WERE MINOR TIMING DIFFERENCES/...WITH HEIGHT FALLS OF 7-10DAM FROM 12 HOURS PREVIOUS. BY 12Z FRI THE BULK OF THE SFC LOW WILL HAVE SHIFTED NE INTO ONTARIO...BUT PREFER THE NAM/GEM/ECMWF SOLUTIONS THAT PIN A 998MB SFC LOW OVER NE LAKE SUPERIOR AS OFTEN HAPPENS DUE TO THE WARM LAKE TEMPS. 850MB TEMPS FALL TO -10C TO -12C OVER WRN LAKE SUPERIOR BY 12Z FRI...AND WILL WELL BELOW 0C OVER THE REST OF THE CWA. THE COMBINATION OF THE DEEPENING SFC LOW...COLD AIR OVER THE WARM LAKE AND SHARP PRESSURE GRADIENT LEAD TO STRONG WINDS. THE STRONGEST WINDS LOOK TO BE OVER THE KEWEENAW AND NEAR LAKE SUPERIOR E OF THE HURON MOUNTAINS...ESPECIALLY ALONG THE SHORELINES OF ALGER AND LUCE COUNTIES. IN THESE AREAS...MODELS SHOW 925MB WINDS IN EXCESS OF 40KTS...SO GUSTS AS HIGH AS 40KTS SEEM APPROPRIATE FOR THE FORECAST IN THESE MORE EXPOSED LOCATIONS FROM THE NW WINDS LATE THU NIGHT AND THROUGH MUCH OF FRI. A SHORT SWATH OF DRY LOW AND MID LEVEL AIR ROTATES THROUGH THE WRN CWA LATE FRI MORNING...WHICH WILL DIMINISH SNOWFALL TO SOME EXTENT. MODELS THEN INDICATE ANOTHER SHORTWAVE PUSHING THROUGH SOMETIME SAT EVENING AS 850MB TEMPS FALL TO -14C OVER MUCH OF LAKE SUPERIOR...WHICH WILL ACT TO ENHANCE SNOWFALL RATES. AFTER THIS SHORTWAVE...SNOWFALL SHOULD GENERALLY SLOWLY DIMINISH IN INTENSITY/COVERAGE UNTIL SFC AND UPPER RIDGING MOVES IN FROM THE W SAT...REACHING IWD BY 18Z SAT AND THE FAR ERN CWA AROUND 00Z SUN. GIVEN HOW QUICKLY TEMPS GET COLD AS THE UPPER LOW IS MOVING OVER...SNOW TO LIQUID RATIOS WILL JUMP UP PRETTY QUICKLY TO AROUND 18 TO 1 RATIOS. THIS WILL INCREASE SNOWFALL ACCUMULATIONS AND WILL ALLOW THE SNOW TO BE BLOW AROUND MORE FROM GUSTY WINDS. EXPECT TWO MAIN BURSTS OF SNOW THAT SHOULD BE ESPECIALLY UNTACTFUL...ONE AS THE UPPER LOW PUSHES IN WITH LAKE ENHANCEMENT ADDING TO SNOW INTENSITY. THIS WILL HAPPEN THU NIGHT INTO EARLY FRI MORNING OVER THE WRN CWA...AND FRI MORNING TO AROUND NOON FRI OVER THE ERN CWA. THE SECOND BURST LOOKS TO BE WITH THE SECOND SHORTWAVE FRI EVENING TO EARLY SAT NIGHT WITH ENHANCEMENT OF THE LES. THE FIRST BURST OF SNOW LOOKS TO BE THE WORST GIVEN THE INCREASED FORCING FROM THE 500MB LOW...WHICH WILL ALSO BE AT THE WORST TIMES GIVEN MUCH INCREASED POST THANKSGIVING TRAVEL/ACTIVITY AS FAR A SOCIETAL IMPACTS GO. THIS IS COMPOUNDED BY THE FACT THAT NO SIGNIFICANT SNOWFALL HAS OCCURRED IN A WHILE...WHICH LOCAL STUDIES SUGGEST LEADS TO A LARGE INCREASE IN TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS ONCE SNOW DOES FALL. AS FAR AS SNOWFALL AMOUNTS GO...HAVE HIGHEST CONFIDENCE IN SNOWFALL AMOUNTS OF PORTIONS OF ALGER...LUCE AND NRN SCHOOLCRAFT COUNTIES WHERE MOISTURE WILL LINGER LONGER AND THE FETCH ACROSS LAKE SUPERIOR WILL BE BETTER AND NW WINDS WILL NOT CHANGE DIRECTIONS MUCH THROUGH THE EVENT. OVER THESE ERN AREAS...THE NAM SHOWS STORM TOTAL QPF /WHICH SHOULD BE ALMOST ALL SNOW/ OF JUST UNDER 0.80 INCHES...WHICH MAY BE A BIT ON THE HIGH SIDE BUT CAN NOT BE RULED OUT. OVERALL...THINK 6-10 INCHES /WITH SOME POTENTIAL FOR UP TO A FOOT/ TOTAL SNOWFALL SEEMS REASONABLE FOR THE ERN AREAS. LOWEST CONFIDENCE IS OVER THE NRN HURON MOUNTAINS IN NW MARQUETTE AND NE BARAGA COUNTIES...AS THIS AREA IS ALWAYS HARD TO FORECAST IN NW WINDS...BUT WOULD THINK 3-5 INCHES STORM TOTAL SNOW IS REASONABLE. THE HIGHER TERRAIN OF WRN UPPER MI FROM IWD TO CMX AND COPPER HARBOR SHOULD SEE 4-8 INCHES STORM TOTAL SNOW /HIGHEST OVER PORTION OF NRN HOUGHTON COUNTY AND WRN ONTONAGON/NRN GOGEBIC COUNTIES/...BUT WITH MORE UNCERTAINTY THAT THE ERN CWA AND MORE HIGHER POSSIBILITIES OF HIGHER OR LOWER AMOUNTS. NCENTRAL PARTS OF THE CWA /GENERALLY IN THE MARQUETTE-NEGAUNEE AREA/ LOOK TO SEE 1-3 INCHES OF SNOW THROUGH THE ENTIRE PERIOD. SCENTRAL PORTIONS OF THE CWA SHOULD SEE LITTLE TO NO SNOW. HEADLINES FOR THIS EVENT ARE SOMEWHAT TRICKY IN THAT TRADITIONAL SNOWFALL AMOUNT BASED CRITERIA WILL NEED TO BE RELAXED GIVEN A VARIETY OF PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED SOCIETAL IMPACTS AND OTHER CONTRIBUTING FACTORS /SUCH AS GUSTY WINDS/. GIVEN HIGHER CONFIDENCE OVER THE ERN CWA /ALGER...LUCE AND NRN SCHOOLCRAFT COUNTIES/ DECIDED TO ISSUE A WINTER STORM WATCH FOR THESE AREAS. ELSEWHERE ALONG THE LAKE SUPERIOR SHORE...ISSUED AN SPS HIGHLIGHTING POOR TRAVEL CONDITIONS SINCE IT IS TOO FAR OUT FOR AN ADVISORY. NEXT SYSTEM OF INTEREST MOVES OVERHEAD ON SAT NIGHT INTO EARLY SUN AS A CLIPPER SYSTEM PUSHES THROUGH. BEST MOISTURE IS CO-LOCATED WITH UPPER SUPPORT IN LEFT EXIT REGION OF UPPER JET OVER NRN PORTIONS OF THE AREA. INCREASED CONSENSUS GUIDANCE TO MID RANGE CHANCE POPS. AT THIS TIME A COUPLE OF INCHES OF SNOW APPEARS POSSIBLE...MAINLY IN THE HIGHER TERRAIN OVER THE NRN CWA. && .AVIATION...(FOR THE 00Z TAFS THROUGH 00Z THURSDAY EVENING) ISSUED AT 640 PM EST WED NOV 21 2012 AT KSAW...CONDITIONS WILL BE VFR INITIALLY...BUT RADIATIONAL COOLING WILL LIKELY RESULT IN DEVELOPMENT OF SOME FOG AND LOW CLOUDS/IFR CONDITIONS ONCE AGAIN TONIGHT. VFR CONDITIONS SHOULD PREVAIL AT KIWD/KCMX TONIGHT AS DOWNSLOPE NATURE OF SSW FLOW SHOULD LIMIT THE POTENTIAL FOR LOW CLOUDS/FOG. WITH INCREASING SSW WINDS OVERNIGHT ABOVE RADIATION INVERSION...LLWS IS EXPECTED AT ALL 3 LOCATIONS. DAYTIME HEATING/MIXING SHOULD END LLWS/DISSIPATE ANY LOW CLOUDS/FOG BY LATE THU MORNING. ARRIVAL OF COLD FRONT LATE IN THE DAY WILL LIKELY BRING LOW MVFR CIGS TO KIWD/KCMX AFTER 21Z. && .MARINE...(FOR THE 4 PM LAKE SUPERIOR FORECAST ISSUANCE) ISSUED AT 437 PM EST WED NOV 21 2012 EXPECT S WINDS UP TO 20 KTS THRU THIS EVENING TO INCREASE UP TO 25 KTS LATE TONIGHT AND THU UNDER TIGHTENING PRES GRADIENT AHEAD OF COLD FRONT ASSOCIATED WITH POWERFUL DISTURBANCE MOVING ACROSS THE NORTHERN CONUS. ONCE THE COLD FRONT MOVES WEST TO EAST THU AFTERNOON AND NIGHT...EXPECT A SHARP WIND SHIFT TO THE NW. AS THE PRES GRADIENT TIGHTENS CONSIDERABLY AND MUCH COLDER AIR MOVES OVER THE UPPER LAKES...EXPECT A HI END GALE EVENT EXCEPT OVER THE FAR W WITH THE COLDER AIR ENHANCING THE MIXING OF STRONGER WINDS ALOFT TO THE LAKE SURFACE. GIVEN THE CONSISTENT FORECAST TIMING AND STRENGTH OF THIS EVENT...OPTED TO UPGRADE GOING GALE WATCHES TO WARNINGS FOR THE LATE THU NIGHT INTO FRI NIGHT PERIOD. SOME STORM FORCE WIND GUSTS WILL ALSO BE POSSIBLE ON FRI...ESPECIALLY OVER THE E HALF OF THE LAKE. THE APPROACH OF A HI PRES RIDGE LATE FRI NIGHT WILL CAUSE THE GALES TO DIMINISH W-E THEN. ANOTHER LO PRES TROF WILL IMPACT THE UPPER GREAT LAKES OVER THE WEEKEND...BUT A WEAKER PRES GRADIENT WILL LIKELY HOLDS WINDS TO NO HIER THAN 25 KTS. && .MQT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... UPPER MICHIGAN... WINTER STORM WATCH FROM LATE THURSDAY NIGHT THROUGH LATE FRIDAY NIGHT FOR MIZ006-007-085. LAKE SUPERIOR... GALE WARNING FROM 1 AM FRIDAY TO 1 AM EST SATURDAY FOR LSZ264>267. GALE WARNING FROM 1 AM TO 7 PM EST FRIDAY FOR LSZ243>245-248>251- 263. LAKE MICHIGAN... NONE. && $$ SHORT TERM...KC LONG TERM...TITUS AVIATION...ROLFSON MARINE...KC
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS GRAND FORKS ND
338 AM CST TUE NOV 20 2012 .SHORT TERM... CHALLENGE FOR THE FORECAST IN THE SHORT TERM INCLUDES WARM TEMPS AND THEN LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM TRACKING ACROSS THE AREA THANKSGIVING DAY AND NIGHT. MODELS IN FAIR AGREEMENT THUS USED A BLEND THROUGH THE MID WEEK. SOME UNCERTAINTY WITH COVERAGE AND DEPTH OF FOG DEVELOPMENT THIS MORNING AND ITS EVOLUTION TODAY. HRRR MODEL DEVELOPS WIDE AREA OF FOG OVER THE MN PINES AND LAKES AND THEN SLOWLY ADVECTS IT TO THE WEST AND NORTH OVER THE VALLEY DURING THE DAY TODAY. THIS SCENARIO WOULD DRASTICALLY LOWER FORECASTED HIGHS TODAY...THOUGH HRRR DID INITIALIZE WITH MORE FOG AT 08Z THAN WHAT IS CURRENTLY SEEN IN SFC OBS. CURRENT THINKING IS THAT FOG WILL BE LESS DENSE AND ABLE TO ERODE THIS MORNING AND ALLOW GOOD SOLAR SOME WAA ON SOUTH TO SOUTHEAST WINDS ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE DEPARTING HIGH TO ALLOW HI TEMPS TO REACH MID 40S. LOW LEVEL WARM ADVECTION CONTINUES OVERNIGHT WITH GOOD MIXING KEEPING TEMPS UP NEAR THE FREEZING MARK WEDNESDAY MORNING. THESE WARM LOWS WILL BE SETTING THE STAGE FOR HIGHS IN THE MID 50S SOUTH... NEAR THE RECORD OF 58 AT FARGO... TO NEAR 50 ALONG THE SNOW LINE AS 850MB TEMPS RANGE FROM 10C IN THE NORTH TO 14 C IN THE SOUTH. MODELS IN GOOD AGREEMENT WITH SFC LOW PRESSURE TO TRACK ACROSS THE AREA EARLY THURSDAY MORNING. BEHIND THE ATTACHED COLD FRONT CHC OF RAIN IN THE MORNING WILL GIVE WAY TO SNOW FROM NW TO SE AS THE COLUMN COOLS. TEMPS LIKELY TO FALL DURING THE DAY AS THE COLD AIR SPILLS INTO THE REGION ON THE NW WINDS. A MIXED PCPN TYPE IS POSSIBLE BEFORE MEASURABLE SNOWFALL STARTS TO ACCUMULATE ACROSS THE NORTHERN HALF OF THE CWFA THURSDAY AFTERNOON AND EVENING. BY 00Z FRI ALL PCPN WILL BE FROZEN WITH SNOW LIKELY ACROSS THE N RRV AND INTO NW MN AS THE DEFORMATION SNOW BAND ORGANIZES OVERNIGHT. WINDS WILL ALSO BE A FACTOR WITH THIS SYSTEM AS STRONG TO BLUSTERY CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED WITH 40 TO 50KTS AT 850MB THURSDAY NIGHT COMBINED WITH THE AFOREMENTIONED SNOW COULD TRAVEL DIFFICULT ACROSS PORTIONS OF THE CWFA. GIVEN THE HOLIDAY AND TRAVEL PLANS INDIVIDUALS SHOULD CONTINUE TO MONITOR FUTURE FORECASTS. .LONG TERM (FRIDAY-MONDAY)...MODELS ARE IN GOOD AGREEMENT WITH TRENDS BUT A BIT DIFFERENT WITH DETAILS. THE GENERAL IDEA IS FOR NORTHWEST FLOW ALOFT WITH A STRONGER SYSTEM/COLD FRONT SATURDAY NIGHT OR SUNDAY. THE MAIN ISSUE WILL BE WINDS WITH THE FROPA AND THEN WELL BELOW NORMAL TEMPERATURES BEHIND THIS FEATURE (WITH NOT MUCH SNOWFALL). && .AVIATION... HIGH PRESSURE ALLOWING PATCHY TO DENSE FOG FORMATION AND IFR CONDITIONS TO DEVELOP AT FAR...TVF AND BJI. DVL ALREADY SEEING S WINDS AND SHOULD REMAIN AT VFR. GFK JUST WEST OF THE FOG FOR NOW...IF IT EXPANDS...A GOOD POSSIBILITY IN THE NEXT 6 HR...GFK TO SEE IFR. IFR CONDITIONS TO LIFT TO MVFR IN LATE MORNING BEFORE SCT OUT. && .FGF WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... ND...NONE. MN...NONE. && $$ JK/TG
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS WILMINGTON OH
840 PM EST WED NOV 21 2012 .SYNOPSIS... HIGH PRESSURE WILL KEEP WARM AND DRY CONDITIONS ACROSS THE REGION THROUGH THANKSGIVING. A COLD FRONT WILL MOVE THROUGH THE AREA FRIDAY MORNING. TEMPERATURES WILL FALL FRIDAY AFTERNOON AND BE WELL BELOW NORMAL OVER THE WEEKEND. && .NEAR TERM /UNTIL 6 AM THURSDAY MORNING/... FOR THE EVENING UPDATE ADDED PATCHY TO AREAS OF FOG MAINLY FOR THE NORTHWESTERN PORTIONS OF THE FORECAST AREA AFTER MIDNIGHT TONIGHT. TEMP/DEWPOINT SPREADS ARE NARROWING RAPIDLY THIS EVENING ACROSS THESE AREAS WITH FOG ALREADY DEVELOPING JUST TO OUR NORTHWEST. THIS TREND HAS BEEN INDICATED WELL BY THE RAP SURFACE RH FIELDS THIS AFTERNOON AND THEREFORE IS BEING FOLLOWED FOR THE FOG FORECAST FOR TONIGHT. OTHERWISE MADE NO ADJUSTMENTS TO THE PREVIOUS FORECAST EXCEPT ADDING A FEW CIRRUS TO THE SKY GRIDS. && .SHORT TERM /6 AM THURSDAY MORNING THROUGH FRIDAY NIGHT/... SOUTHERLY WINDS WILL OCCUR BETWEEN RETREATING HIGH PRESSURE AND AN ADVANCING COLD FRONT THURSDAY AND THURSDAY EVENING. THIS WILL LEAD TO WELL ABOVE NORMAL TEMPERATURES ONCE AGAIN. HIGH CLOUDS WILL START STREAMING INTO THE REGION DURING THIS PERIOD. THE COLD FRONT WILL MOVE INTO WESTERN SECTIONS VERY LATE THURSDAY NIGHT AND CROSS THE REST OF THE FORECAST AREA FRIDAY MORNING. THERE WILL BE SHOWERS WITH THE COLD FRONT. BUT THERE IS SOME UNCERTAINTY ABOUT COVERAGE OF MEASURABLE RAIN. SO HAVE GONE HIGH CHANCE AND LOW LIKELY FOR THE REGION LATE THURSDAY NIGHT AND FRIDAY MORNING. SHOWERS WILL CLEAR OUT BY MIDDAY FRIDAY WITH CLOUDS DECREASING. TEMPERATURES SHOULD STAY RATHER WARM UNTIL FRONTAL PASSAGE EXCEPT FOR FAR EASTERN/SOUTHEASTERN COUNTIES WHERE READINGS MAY DROP OFF EARLY THURSDAY NIGHT. LOOKS LIKE A SITUATION WHERE THERE COULD BE 13Z LOWS AND 12Z HIGHS IN MANY LOCATIONS WITH READINGS FALLING THROUGH THE REST OF FRIDAY. WINDS WILL BE GUSTY BEHIND THE COLD FRONT WITH WIND CHILL VALUES DROPPING INTO THE UPPER 20S TO MID 30S BY LATE IN THE DAY. WINDS WILL DIMINISH SOMEWHAT FRIDAY NIGHT. ADDITIONAL CLOUD COVER MAY SPREAD INTO THE REGION WITH COLD AIR ADVECTION AND CYCLONIC FLOW OVER THE GREAT LAKES. FELT THAT GFS MOS LOWS LOOKED MORE REASONABLE IN THIS SCENARIO. && .LONG TERM /SATURDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY/... COLD AIR MASS WILL BE IN PLACE ACROSS THE AREA ON SATURDAY WITH HIGH TEMPERATURES ONLY IN THE MIDDLE 30S. WITH WINDS OFF OF LAKE MICHIGAN ON SATURDAY SOME LIGHT LAKE EFFECT SNOW SHOWERS WILL BE POSSIBLE ACROSS NORTHERN PORTIONS OF THE FA. H8 WINDS WILL BECOME MORE WESTERLY SATURDAY EVENING AND PRECIPITATION CHANCES WILL COME TO AN END ACROSS THE FA. CLOUD COVER WILL DECREASE ACROSS THE AREA SATURDAY NIGHT ALLOWING TEMPERATURES TO DROP DOWN INTO THE LOW 20S ACROSS MOST LOCATIONS. WARMER AIR WILL GRADUALLY START TO WORK INTO THE AREA LATE DURING THE OVERNIGHT SATURDAY NIGHT AND THIS SHOULD HELP TO KEEP TEMPERATURES FROM FALLING INTO THE TEENS. TEMPERATURES CLIMB INTO THE 40S ON SUNDAY ACROSS THE AREA WITH SW FLOW HOWEVER THESE VALUES ARE STILL BELOW NORMAL FOR THIS TIME OF YEAR. THE MODELS START TO DIVERGE WITH THE STORM SYSTEM BEGINNING TO IMPACT THE AREA ON MONDAY. MODELS HAVE SHOWN QUITE A BIT OF RUN TO RUN INCONSISTENCY WITH THIS FEATURE. THE LATEST 12Z ECMWF HAS SHIFTED THE LOW QUITE A BIT FURTHER SOUTH FROM THE PREVIOUS MODEL SOLUTIONS AND HAVE DECIDED NOT TO JUMP ON THIS LATEST RUN JUST YET. INSTEAD...WENT WITH A 12Z GFS 00Z ECMWF BLEND. PRECIPITATION WILL BEGIN TO MOVE INTO THE AREA ON MONDAY WITH A GREATER COVERAGE IN PRECIPITATION EXPECTED MONDAY EVENING INTO TUESDAY. PRECIPITATION WILL GENERALLY BE IN THE FORM OF RAIN THROUGH THE DAYTIME HOURS ON TUESDAY EXCEPT FOR A LITTLE SNOW THAT MAY MIX IN AT TIMES ACROSS THE NORTH MONDAY INTO MONDAY NIGHT. WITH THE 12Z GFS 00Z ECMWF BLEND HAVE THE AREA OF LOW PRESSURE MOVING ALONG AND JUST NORTH OF THE INTERSTATE 71 CORRIDOR ON TUESDAY. COLDER AIR WILL QUICKLY WORK INTO THE AREA TUESDAY NIGHT AND ANY RESIDUAL PRECIPITATION WILL BEGIN TO CHANGE OVER TO SNOW ACROSS THE REGION. DRY CONDITIONS WILL RETURN TO THE AREA BY WEDNESDAY MORNING. && .AVIATION /02Z THURSDAY THROUGH MONDAY/... MOSTLY CLEAR SKIES AND SUFFICIENT SURFACE MOISTURE SHOULD ALLOW FOR RIVER VALLEY FOG TO AFFECT KLUK...WITH LESS DENSE GROUND FOG/MIST TO AFFECT KCVG/KDAY/KILN LATE TONIGHT. KLUK WILL LIKELY HAVE IFR VSBYS BEFORE SUNRISE. AFTER SUNRISE...EXPECT ANY FOG/MIST TO QUICKLY DIMINISH WITH MAINLY SCATTERED CIRRUS PASSING BY. WINDS WILL INCREASE DURING THE LATE MORNING OUT OF THE SOUTH TO AROUND 10 KTS...LASTING INTO THE EVENING. OUTLOOK...MVFR CEILINGS AND VISIBILITIES POSSIBLE FRIDAY. MVFR CEILINGS POSSIBLE SATURDAY. && .ILN WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... OH...NONE. KY...NONE. IN...NONE. && $$ SYNOPSIS... NEAR TERM...LATTO SHORT TERM... LONG TERM...NOVAK AVIATION...LATTO
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS CLEVELAND OH
320 PM EST TUE NOV 20 2012 .SYNOPSIS... A WEAKENING COLD FRONT OVER NORTHWEST OHIO WILL DISSIPATE AS IT MOVES ACROSS THE LOCAL AREA TONIGHT. HIGH PRESSURE WILL RETURN FOR WEDNESDAY AND THE THANKSGIVING HOLIDAY. A STRONGER COLD FRONT IS EXPECTED TO ARRIVE ON FRIDAY. && .NEAR TERM /UNTIL 6 AM WEDNESDAY MORNING/... RADAR CONTINUES TO SHOW SOME WEAK RETURNS WITH A LEGITIMATE SHOWER OVER RICHLAND COUNTY. A FEW SHOWERS HAVE COME AND GONE THE PAST HOUR OR SO. WILL GO WITH A 20 POP OVER MUCH OF THE AREA THROUGH 00Z OR SO TO COVER ANY NEW DEVELOPMENT. LATEST HRRR INDICATES THAT THIS IS A REASONABLE SCENARIO. WHAT IS LEFT OF THE COLD FRONT HAS MOVED INTO NW OH AND SHOULD BE COMPLETELY GONE BY LATE EVENING. HAVE SEEN SOME BREAKS IN THE CLOUDS RECENTLY BUT THINK THE FLAVOR OF THE NIGHT WILL BE MOSTLY CLOUDY AS STRATO CU BEHIND THE FRONT MOVES INTO THE AREA. GUIDANCE TEMPS LOOK REASONABLE. && .SHORT TERM /6 AM WEDNESDAY MORNING THROUGH FRIDAY NIGHT/... WE SHOULD SEE A DECREASE IN THE CLOUDS TOMORROW WITH PARTLY CLOUDY TO MOSTLY SUNNY SKIES BY LATE AFTERNOON. TEMPS WILL BE A DEGREE OR TWO WARMER THAN TODAY GIVEN THE SUNSHINE. EVEN WARMER READINGS ARE EXPECTED FOR THANKSGIVING AS THE RIDGE AXIS WILL BE JUST EAST OF THE AREA. ABUNDANT SUNSHINE IS ALSO EXPECTED. THE MODELS CONTINUE TO BE IN DECENT AGREEMENT WITH THE COLD FRONTAL PASSAGE ON FRIDAY. THE FRONT SHOULD BE INTO NW PA BY EARLY AFTERNOON. ALL OF THE NEW GUIDANCE IS SHOWING A LINE OF SHOWERS ALONG THE FRONT AND HAVE BUMPED POPS UP SLIGHTLY. EXPECT THAT LATER SHIFTS MAY EVENTUALLY NEED TO GO WITH LIKELY OR HIGHER WORDING. GOOD COLD AIR ADVECTION IS EXPECTED BEHIND THE FRONT WITH 850 MB TEMPS DIPPING TO AROUND NEG 10 BY 12Z SAT. WILL NEED TO HANG ON TO SOME LAKE EFFECT PRECIP FRIDAY NIGHT OVER MOST OF THE AREA. HAVE USED A BLEND OF GUIDANCE TEMPS DURING THE PERIOD. && .LONG TERM /SATURDAY THROUGH TUESDAY/... A DECENT LAKE EFFECT SHSN EVENT STILL LOOKS IN ORDER FOR SAT INTO SAT NIGHT TAPERING TO MAINLY FLURRIES BY SUN MORNING AS RIDGE OF HIGH PRESSURE MOVES OVERHEAD. THE RIDGE SHOULD BRIEFLY STOP THE PRECIP THEN ANOTHER SYSTEM IS EXPECTED TO APPROACH THE AREA WITH MOISTURE ARRIVING MONDAY. THE MODELS DIFFER GREATLY BY TUE SO WILL CONTINUE A SMALL CHANCE FOR RAIN OR SNOW INTO TUE THUS LEANING MORE TOWARD THE ECMWF AS THE GFS LOOKS TO BE TRENDING MORE THAT WAY TOO. && .AVIATION /20Z TUESDAY THROUGH SUNDAY/... VFR SHOULD PREVAIL MOST OF THE TIME THROUGH THE TAF PERIOD. CIGS MAY LOWER IN THE WEST CLOSER TO MVFR LEVELS INTO TONIGHT. PATCHY MVFR FOG MAY DEVELOP AT SOME TAF SITES LATE TONIGHT. WINDS WILL STAY LIGHT. OUTLOOK...NON-VFR SHOULD OCCUR FRIDAY SHIFTING TO MAINLY THE SNOWBELT FOR SAT AND SAT NIGHT WITH SHRA CHANGING TO SHSN. VFR SHOULD RETURN MOST SITES SUNDAY. && .MARINE... A RIDGE ACROSS THE LAKE WILL SHIFT SOUTHEAST LATE WEDNESDAY AND THAT WILL ALLOW A SOUTHWEST FLOW TO DEVELOP. THE SOUTHWEST FLOW WILL CONTINUE TO INCREASE THROUGH THURSDAY NIGHT BUT WITH THE LAKE AND 850 MB TEMPERATURE DIFFERENCE NEAR 0C...STABLE...IT WILL BE TOUGH FOR THOSE STRONGER WINDS TO GET TO THE LAKE SURFACE. A SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY MAY BE NEEDED BY LATE THURSDAY NIGHT WITH WINDS OF 15 TO 25 KNOTS. GOING WITH THE SLOWER GFS/ECMWF SOLUTIONS WHICH HAS THE COLD FRONTAL PASSAGE AND A LITTLE STRONGER WINDS FOR LATE FRIDAY. IT IS POSSIBLE THAT WINDS COULD BE CLOSE TO GALE FORCE MAINLY ON THE EAST END OF THE LAKE FRIDAY AFTERNOON. AT THIS TIME IT LOOKS VERY MARGINAL AND BRIEF...THIS WILL HAVE TO BE MONITORED. THE WATER LEVEL WILL ALSO HAVE TO BE WATCHED ON THE WEST END OF THE LAKE FRIDAY AND FRIDAY NIGHT. NONE THE LESS A SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY WILL LIKELY BE NEED FROM LATE THURSDAY NIGHT THROUGH EARLY SATURDAY NIGHT. LATE SATURDAY NIGHT AND ON SUNDAY THE WINDS SHIFT TO THE SOUTHWEST AS A RIDGE MOVES EAST OF THE LAKE. ANOTHER FRONT OR TROF WILL MOVE ACROSS THE LAKE LATE SUNDAY. && .CLE WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... OH...NONE. PA...NONE. MARINE...NONE. && $$ SYNOPSIS...KUBINA NEAR TERM...KUBINA SHORT TERM...KUBINA LONG TERM...ADAMS AVIATION...TK MARINE...KIELTYKA
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION FOR SOUTHEAST SD/SOUTHWEST MN/NORTHWEST IA
NWS SIOUX FALLS SD
928 PM CST WED NOV 21 2012 .DISCUSSION... STILL A LITTLE MIXY WITH SOUTHWESTERLY LOW LEVEL JET OVER EASTERN PART OF THE AREA. THIS HOLDING TEMPERATURES UP THIS EVENING...WITH READINGS STILL IN THE MID 50S TO LOWER 60S AS OF 03Z. MODELS DO NOT HAVE A GREAT GRASP ON THIS...WITH RAP THE CLOSEST THOUGH STILL A FEW DEGREES SHY AT 03Z. TREND IN THIS MODEL SEEMS REASONABLE THOUGH... WITH SLOW FALL AHEAD OF PRE-FRONTAL TROUGH...WHICH WILL TURN WINDS MORE WESTERLY AND SOMEWHAT LIGHTER OVERNIGHT. SHOULD SEE GREATER FALL AFTER THIS TROUGH PASSAGE...AND WITH COLD ADVECTION BEGINNING TO PUSH INTO WESTERN PARTS OF THE CWA PRIOR TO DAYBREAK...WILL LET GOING LOWS RIDE WITH MINIMAL CHANGES. UPDATED GRIDS/PFM HAVE BEEN SENT. && .AVIATION.../FOR THE 00Z TAF ISSUANCE/ VFR CONDITIONS EXPECTED THROUGH THE TAF PERIOD. SOUTHEASTERLY WINDS OVERNIGHT WILL TRANSITION TO NORTHWESTERLY AND INCREASE EARLY ON THURSDAY...WITH GUSTS OF 30 TO 40 KTS LIKELY BY LATE MORNING AND AFTERNOON. OTHER AREA OF CONCERN IS LOW LEVEL WIND SHEAR AT KSUX THIS EVENING AS SURFACE WINDS FALL OFF AND 40 KT PLUS WINDS DEVELOP AROUND 1000 FT. SHOULD SEE SOME STATUS FORM BEHIND THE FRONT TOMORROW AS WELL. CURRENTLY THINKING ANY MVFR CIGS STAY NORTH OF OUR CWA...ALTHOUGH WILL HAVE TO WATCH KHON...AS THEY COULD SEE A BRIEF PERIOD OF MVFR CIGS RIGHT BEHIND THE FRONT...BEFORE DRYING AND CLEARING TAKES PLACE. /CHENARD && .PREV DISCUSSION.../ISSUED AT 241 PM CST/ BRISK SOUTH SOUTHWESTERLY FLOW WILL CONTINUE ACROSS MUCH OF THE AREA TONIGHT WITH THE APPROACH OF A SURFACE TROUGH FROM THE WEST. THIS WILL ALLOW FOR WINDS TO STAY UP OVERNIGHT...MORE SO IN THE EAST...AND IT WILL BE A MILD NIGHT WITH LOWS PRIMARILY IN THE 40S. THE SURFACE TROUGH/FRONTAL BOUNDARY WILL SWING THROUGH THE AREA ON THURSDAY...AND WITH STRONG COLD AIR ADVECTION/STEEP LOW LEVEL LAPSE RATES/WINDS GENERALLY 40 TO 45 KTS AT THE TOP OF THE MIXED LAYER/AND A TIGHTENING GRADIENT IT WILL BE A WINDY DAY...AND EXPANDED THE WIND ADVISORY OVER THE ENTIRE CWA. WHILE THE ADVISORY WILL BE MARGINAL IN SOME AREAS...AND STRONGEST WINDS MAY ONLY PERSIST FOR 2 OR 3 HOURS WITH THE FRONTAL PASSAGE...FOR THE SAKE OF SIMPLICITY AND COORDINATION WITH SURROUNDING OFFICES ELECTED TO INCLUDE THE ENTIRE AREA AS CRITERIA IS EXPECTED TO BE CLOSE ENOUGH. WHILE THE COLDEST AIR WILL NOT COME IN UNTIL THURSDAY NIGHT...WITH 925 MB TEMPERATURES PROGGED TO BE A GOOD 10 TO 15 DEGREES C COOLER ON THURSDAY AFTERNOON OVER TODAY...WILL HAVE HIGHS RANGING FROM THE UPPER 40S TO MID 50S ACROSS THE AREA...THOUGH IT WILL OBVIOUSLY FEEL COLDER WHEN THE WINDS ARE FACTORED IN. A STRONG SURGE OF COLD AIR WILL MOVE SOUTH ON THURSDAY NIGHT ALONG WITH GUSTY NORTHWEST WINDS. MODELS IN PRETTY GOOD AGREEMENT WITH THE AMOUNT OF COOLING...JUST SOME MINOR DIFFERENCES ON THE TIMING OF THE FRONT. THE NAM SEEMS TO HANDLE THESE LOW LEVEL FRONTAL FEATURES BEST THIS TIME OF YEAR SO USED THAT TO ACCOUNT FOR THE SOMEWHAT NON DIURNAL NATURE OF TEMPERATURES AS THEY DROP THROUGH THE EARLY MORNING OF FRIDAY BEFORE SLOWLY RISING THROUGH THE DAY. LOWS WILL BE MODERATED A BIT BY THE STRONG FLOW SO WENT CLOSEST TO THE CONSRAW OUTPUT WHICH HANDLES WINDY NIGHTS THE BEST...SO MAINLY LOWER TO MID 20S FOR LOWS. HIGH TEMPERATURES FRIDAY WILL NOT REBOUND MUCH AS COLD ADVECTION CONTINUES AND CLOUDS IN THE EAST ARE SLOW TO ERODE. MAINLY AIMING FOR 250 TO 30 IN THE EAST AND 30 TO 35 IN THE WEST. FRIDAY NIGHT INTO SATURDAY WILL SEE A FAST MOVING SURFACE HIGH PRESSURE MOVE THROUGH WITH BREEZY SOUTHERLY FLOW DEVELOPING ON SATURDAY. TWEAKED LOWS DOWN JUST A TOUCH IN THE EASTERN CWA AND LEFT THEM ABOUT AS IS IN THE WESTERN CWA. WITH THE RETURN FLOW SETTING UP IN THE FAR SOUTH AND WEST CWA ALSO HAVE GRADUALLY WARMING TEMPERATURES IN THOSE AREAS THROUGH SUNRISE. BY SATURDAY THIS STRONG SOUTHERLY FLOW WILL BE IN PLACE WITH A FAIRLY STRONG THERMAL GRADIENT DEVELOPING ACROSS THE CWA. EXPECTING TEMPERATURES TO STRUGGLE A BIT IN THE EAST WHERE SOUTHERLY WINDS WILL BE SLOW TO SET UP...SO ONLY MID 30S. IN THE SOUTHWEST CWA A SURGE OF WARMER AIR SHOULD ALLOW TEMPERATURES TO BUMP UP INTO THE LOWER 50S. IN THE LATTER PERIODS(SUN/WED)...A TROUGH OF LOW PRESSURE WILL DIG INTO THE CENTRAL ROCKIES SUNDAY AFTERNOON THEN SPREAD ACROSS THE CENTRAL PLAINS SUNDAY NIGHT INTO MONDAY. WHILE THERE WILL BE A SMALL CHANCE FOR LIGHT SNOW DURING THIS TIME...WITH SO MUCH NORTHWEST JET ENERGY UPSTREAM FEEL THAT THE WAVE MAY DIG A LITTLE FARTHER SOUTH THAN MODELS CURRENTLY PROJECT SO DO NOT PLAN ON INCREASING PROBABILITIES FOR MEASURABLE SNOWFALL. IF THE WAVE DOES DIVE A LITTLE FARTHER SOUTHWEST ON SUNDAY THE AMOUNT OF WARM AIR THAT MAKES IT THIS FAR NORTH WILL BE MINIMAL WITH A NORTH TO NORTHEAST WIND DEVELOPING THROUGH THE DAY. WILL CONTINUE TO KEEP HIGHS FAIRLY COOL BUT SEASONAL FROM THE UPPER 30S NORTH TO THE MID 40S SOUTH. AS THE WAVE PASSES ON SUNDAY NIGHT COLDER AIR WILL POUR INTO THE REGION SETTING UP A FAIRLY COLD MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY TIME PERIOD. WILL CONTINUE TO LEAN TOWARDS THE MORE CONSISTENT ECMWF WHICH BUILDS THE HIGH PRESSURE SOUTH AND IS MORE STUBBORN ABOUT ALLOWING WARM AIR TO SURGE NORTHEAST AS A WEAK WAVE PASSES ON TUESDAY NIGHT INTO WEDNESDAY. /08 && .FIRE WEATHER.../ISSUED AT 333 PM CST/ THANKSGIVING DAY WILL SEE VERY STRONG NORTHWEST WINDS DEVELOP DURING THE DAY AND WITH VERY DRY CONDITIONS A VERY HIGH FIRE DANGER WILL BE IN PLACE. THE STRONGEST WINDS WILL BE IN CENTRAL SOUTH DAKOTA DOWN THE MISSOURI RIVER VALLEY THROUGH EARLY AFTERNOON...THEN TRANSITION INTO EASTERN SOUTH DAKOTA...SOUTHWEST MINNESOTA AND NORTHWEST IOWA FROM EARLY AFTERNOON INTO THE EVENING. && .FSD WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... IA...WIND ADVISORY FROM NOON TO 6 PM CST THURSDAY FOR IAZ001>003- 012>014-020>022-031-032. MN...WIND ADVISORY FROM NOON TO 6 PM CST THURSDAY FOR MNZ071-072-080- 081-089-090-097-098. NE...WIND ADVISORY FROM 9 AM TO 6 PM CST THURSDAY FOR NEZ013. WIND ADVISORY FROM NOON TO 6 PM CST THURSDAY FOR NEZ014. SD...WIND ADVISORY FROM 9 AM TO 6 PM CST THURSDAY FOR SDZ038-050-052- 053-057>060-063>066-068>070. WIND ADVISORY FROM NOON TO 6 PM CST THURSDAY FOR SDZ039-040- 054>056-061-062-067-071. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION...UPDATED
NWS AMARILLO TX
959 PM CST WED NOV 21 2012 .UPDATE... QUICK UPDATE TO TWEAK OVERNIGHT WINDS...TEMPS...AND DEWPOINTS UPWARD BASED ON CURRENT TRENDS. KB && .PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 518 PM CST WED NOV 21 2012/ AVIATION... 00Z TAF CYCLE UPPER TROUGH WILL MOVE ACROSS THE TEXAS AND OKLAHOMA PANHANDLES TONIGHT PRODUCING CONSIDERABLE MID AND HIGH LEVEL CLOUDINESS AND USHERING IN A COLD FRONT THANKSGIVING DAY MORNING. VFR CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED ALONG WITH SOUTHERLY WINDS 15 TO 20 KNOTS WITH SOME HIGHER GUSTS POSSIBLE TONIGHT...THEN WINDS SHIFTING TO THE NORTHWEST AND NORTH 15 TO 25 KNOTS WITH HIGHER GUSTS AFTER 14Z TO 17Z THANKSGIVING DAY. WIND SPEEDS ARE EXPECTED TO GRADUALLY DIMINISH AFTER 20Z TO 22Z THANKSGIVING DAY TO AROUND 15 KNOTS. SCHNEIDER PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 415 PM CST WED NOV 21 2012/ DISCUSSION... CONTINUED DRY CONDITIONS AND PERIODIC FRONTAL PASSAGES HIGHLIGHT THE FORECAST PERIOD. SOUTHWESTERLY WINDS AND CLOUD COVER HAVE INCREASED TODAY IN ADVANCE OF A SHORTWAVE TROUGH NOW EJECTING THROUGH THE AMBIENT SOUTHWESTERLY FLOW ALOFT. WHILE MOST OF THE FORCING/ASCENT AND MEANINGFUL RAIN CHANCES ASSOCIATED WITH THIS FEATURE WILL REMAIN WELL SOUTH OF THE AREA...SOME ENHANCED VORTICITY/DEEPENING OF THE TROUGH HAS EMERGED THIS AFTERNOON OVER CENTRAL NEW MEXICO. ISOLATED HIGH-BASED CONVECTION HAS DEVELOPED NEAR ROSWELL. ALL NWP SOLUTIONS MINIMIZE PROSPECTS FOR PRECIPITATION IN THE PANHANDLES AS THIS TRANSLATES OVER THE REGION TONIGHT. ONLY THE RAP DEPICTS THE SMALLEST HINT OF QPF OVER THE SOUTHWESTERN PANHANDLE. THUS WE HAVE MAINTAINED A DRY FORECAST WITH GRIDDED POPS AT/BELOW 10 PERCENT. A FRONT IS EXPECTED TO PUSH ACROSS THE PANHANDLES AFTER 12-15Z THURSDAY IN WAKE OF THE PASSING SHORTWAVE TROUGH AXIS. 3-HR PRESSURE RISES AROUND 4 MB OVER KANSAS WILL SUPPORT POST FRONTAL WINDS OF 15 TO 25 MPH...ESPECIALLY OVER THE OKLAHOMA PANHANDLE AND THE NORTHERN TEXAS PANHANDLE. ALL INDICATIONS OF SUFFICIENT LIFT/MOISTURE TO SUPPORT CONVECTION ALONG THE FRONT ARE DISPLACED WELL EAST AND SOUTH OF THE REGION. A 1035-1037 MB CONTINENTAL SURFACE HIGH WILL PUSH SOUTHWARD THROUGH THE PLAINS IN WAKE OF THE FRONT. THIS WILL RESULT IN NOTABLY COOLER TEMPERATURES /SOME 5 DEGREES BELOW SEASONAL AVERAGES/ BY FRIDAY. THE COOL SURFACE RIDGE WILL TRANSLATE SOUTHEAST TOWARD THE LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY...LENDING TOWARD TEMPERATURE MODERATION OVER THE PANHANDLES THROUGH THE WEEKEND. THIS AS LOW AMPLITUDE RIDGING OVER THE WEST RESULTS IN MODEST NORTHWESTERLY FLOW OVER THE CENTRAL/SOUTHERN PLAINS AND LEE TROUGHING. ATTENTION THEN SHIFTS TOWARD A SHORTWAVE TROUGH AND ASSOCIATED FRONTAL PASSAGE EARLY NEXT WEEK. THE INITIAL FRONTAL PASSAGE WILL OCCUR DURING THE LATE SUNDAY/EARLY MONDAY TIMEFRAME...AND MAY RESULT IN PROBLEMATIC TEMPERATURE FORECASTS INITIALLY. THE FRONT WILL FINALLY PUSH SOLIDLY THROUGH BY LATE MONDAY AS THE APPROACHING SHORTWAVE TROUGH AMPLIFIES IN NORTHWESTERLY FLOW. SOME SOLUTIONS GENERATE LIGHT QPF IN PROXIMITY TO THE NORTHERN AND EASTERN PANHANDLES...BUT CONFIDENCE IN SUFFICIENT FORCING/MOISTURE IS NOT HIGH AND THE CURRENT DRY FORECAST CONTINUES TO APPEAR VALID. FIRE WEATHER... ONGOING ELEVATED FIRE WEATHER OVER THE WESTERN AND CENTRAL OKLAHOMA PANHANDLE AND NORTHWESTERN TEXAS PANHANDLE WILL DIMINISH BY EARLY EVENING. CONCERNS FOR ELEVATED CONDITIONS WILL AGAIN EXIST THURSDAY... AS POST FRONTAL WINDS INCREASE INTO THE 15 TO 20 MPH RANGE AND AFTERNOON HUMIDITY MINIMA DROP TOWARDS 15 PERCENT AGAIN OVER THE WESTERN OKLAHOMA PANHANDLE AND THE NORTHWESTERN TEXAS PANHANDLE. OTHERWISE...ELEVATED OR CRITICAL CONDITIONS ARE NOT ANTICIPATED THROUGH THE REMAINDER OF THE PERIOD. && .AMA WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... TX...NONE. OK...NONE. && $$ 11/08
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS AMARILLO TX
518 PM CST WED NOV 21 2012 .AVIATION... 00Z TAF CYCLE UPPER TROUGH WILL MOVE ACROSS THE TEXAS AND OKLAHOMA PANHANDLES TONIGHT PRODUCING CONSIDERABLE MID AND HIGH LEVEL CLOUDINESS AND USHERING IN A COLD FRONT THANKSGIVING DAY MORNING. VFR CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED ALONG WITH SOUTHERLY WINDS 15 TO 20 KNOTS WITH SOME HIGHER GUSTS POSSIBLE TONIGHT...THEN WINDS SHIFTING TO THE NORTHWEST AND NORTH 15 TO 25 KNOTS WITH HIGHER GUSTS AFTER 14Z TO 17Z THANKSGIVING DAY. WIND SPEEDS ARE EXPECTED TO GRADUALLY DIMINISH AFTER 20Z TO 22Z THANKSGIVING DAY TO AROUND 15 KNOTS. SCHNEIDER && .PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 415 PM CST WED NOV 21 2012/ DISCUSSION... CONTINUED DRY CONDITIONS AND PERIODIC FRONTAL PASSAGES HIGHLIGHT THE FORECAST PERIOD. SOUTHWESTERLY WINDS AND CLOUD COVER HAVE INCREASED TODAY IN ADVANCE OF A SHORTWAVE TROUGH NOW EJECTING THROUGH THE AMBIENT SOUTHWESTERLY FLOW ALOFT. WHILE MOST OF THE FORCING/ASCENT AND MEANINGFUL RAIN CHANCES ASSOCIATED WITH THIS FEATURE WILL REMAIN WELL SOUTH OF THE AREA...SOME ENHANCED VORTICITY/DEEPENING OF THE TROUGH HAS EMERGED THIS AFTERNOON OVER CENTRAL NEW MEXICO. ISOLATED HIGH-BASED CONVECTION HAS DEVELOPED NEAR ROSWELL. ALL NWP SOLUTIONS MINIMIZE PROSPECTS FOR PRECIPITATION IN THE PANHANDLES AS THIS TRANSLATES OVER THE REGION TONIGHT. ONLY THE RAP DEPICTS THE SMALLEST HINT OF QPF OVER THE SOUTHWESTERN PANHANDLE. THUS WE HAVE MAINTAINED A DRY FORECAST WITH GRIDDED POPS AT/BELOW 10 PERCENT. A FRONT IS EXPECTED TO PUSH ACROSS THE PANHANDLES AFTER 12-15Z THURSDAY IN WAKE OF THE PASSING SHORTWAVE TROUGH AXIS. 3-HR PRESSURE RISES AROUND 4 MB OVER KANSAS WILL SUPPORT POST FRONTAL WINDS OF 15 TO 25 MPH...ESPECIALLY OVER THE OKLAHOMA PANHANDLE AND THE NORTHERN TEXAS PANHANDLE. ALL INDICATIONS OF SUFFICIENT LIFT/MOISTURE TO SUPPORT CONVECTION ALONG THE FRONT ARE DISPLACED WELL EAST AND SOUTH OF THE REGION. A 1035-1037 MB CONTINENTAL SURFACE HIGH WILL PUSH SOUTHWARD THROUGH THE PLAINS IN WAKE OF THE FRONT. THIS WILL RESULT IN NOTABLY COOLER TEMPERATURES /SOME 5 DEGREES BELOW SEASONAL AVERAGES/ BY FRIDAY. THE COOL SURFACE RIDGE WILL TRANSLATE SOUTHEAST TOWARD THE LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY...LENDING TOWARD TEMPERATURE MODERATION OVER THE PANHANDLES THROUGH THE WEEKEND. THIS AS LOW AMPLITUDE RIDGING OVER THE WEST RESULTS IN MODEST NORTHWESTERLY FLOW OVER THE CENTRAL/SOUTHERN PLAINS AND LEE TROUGHING. ATTENTION THEN SHIFTS TOWARD A SHORTWAVE TROUGH AND ASSOCIATED FRONTAL PASSAGE EARLY NEXT WEEK. THE INITIAL FRONTAL PASSAGE WILL OCCUR DURING THE LATE SUNDAY/EARLY MONDAY TIMEFRAME...AND MAY RESULT IN PROBLEMATIC TEMPERATURE FORECASTS INITIALLY. THE FRONT WILL FINALLY PUSH SOLIDLY THROUGH BY LATE MONDAY AS THE APPROACHING SHORTWAVE TROUGH AMPLIFIES IN NORTHWESTERLY FLOW. SOME SOLUTIONS GENERATE LIGHT QPF IN PROXIMITY TO THE NORTHERN AND EASTERN PANHANDLES...BUT CONFIDENCE IN SUFFICIENT FORCING/MOISTURE IS NOT HIGH AND THE CURRENT DRY FORECAST CONTINUES TO APPEAR VALID. FIRE WEATHER... ONGOING ELEVATED FIRE WEATHER OVER THE WESTERN AND CENTRAL OKLAHOMA PANHANDLE AND NORTHWESTERN TEXAS PANHANDLE WILL DIMINISH BY EARLY EVENING. CONCERNS FOR ELEVATED CONDITIONS WILL AGAIN EXIST THURSDAY... AS POST FRONTAL WINDS INCREASE INTO THE 15 TO 20 MPH RANGE AND AFTERNOON HUMIDITY MINIMA DROP TOWARDS 15 PERCENT AGAIN OVER THE WESTERN OKLAHOMA PANHANDLE AND THE NORTHWESTERN TEXAS PANHANDLE. OTHERWISE...ELEVATED OR CRITICAL CONDITIONS ARE NOT ANTICIPATED THROUGH THE REMAINDER OF THE PERIOD. && .AMA WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... TX...NONE. OK...NONE. && $$ 11/08
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS LA CROSSE WI
302 PM CST TUE NOV 20 2012 .SHORT TERM...TONIGHT THROUGH FRIDAY NIGHT 301 PM CST TUE NOV 20 2012 MAIN FORECAST CONCERN IS ON CLOUDS/FOG POTENTIAL TONIGHT...TEMPERATURES THROUGH THE PERIOD AND RAIN CHANCES FOR THANKSGIVING DAY. VISIBLE SATELLITE IMAGERY AT 18Z SHOWS AN AREA OF FOG ALONG THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER AND ACROSS SOUTHWEST WISCONSIN AND EASTERN IOWA. THIS AREA HAS BEEN SHRINKING OVER THE PAST SEVERAL HOURS AND EXPECT IT TO DISSIPATE BY EVENING. OTHERWISE SKIES WERE CLEAR AROUND THE AREA. 20.12Z MODELS CONTINUE TO BE IN GOOD AGREEMENT THROUGH THE PERIOD. NAM IS THE FASTEST SOLUTION IN REGARD TO THE FRONTAL MOVEMENT ON THANKSGIVING DAY AND WENT MORE WITH A MODEL CONSENSUS WITH ITS MOVEMENT ACROSS THE FORECAST AREA. IN THE NEAR TERM...PROBLEM IS ON FOG AND LOW CLOUD POTENTIAL AGAIN TONIGHT. RAP BUFKIT SOUNDINGS SHOW MOISTURE BEING TRAPPED UNDER THE STRENGTHENING INVERSION TONIGHT...BUT NAM WANTS TO SCOUR THINGS OUT WITH DRIER AIR FILTERING IN FROM THE WEST. HOWEVER...FEEL RAP MAYBE MORE ACCURATE AS GRADIENT LOOKS TO BE QUITE WEAK UNTIL LATER TONIGHT WHEN THE WINDS PICK UP ACROSS THE WEST. FEEL WIDESPREAD FOG IS AGAIN LIKELY...MAINLY IN AREAS ALONG AND EAST OF THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER. ATTENTION THEN TURNS TO BUILDING UPPER RIDGE ACROSS THE AREA WEDNESDAY. 925MB TEMPERATURES WILL WARM INTO THE LOWER TO MIDDLE TEENS CELSIUS BY AFTERNOON AND THUS EXPECT VERY WARM TEMPERATURES. MIXING POTENTIAL LOOKS TO BE BETWEEN 925MB AND 950MB AND USING THE MIX DOWN TOOL RESULTS IN A 10 DEGREE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MIXING TO 925MB AND 950MB. THE CAVEAT WILL BE LINGERING CLOUDS AND FOG EXPECTED INTO THE MID MORNING HOURS THAT MAY PREVENT FULL WARMING. NONE THE LESS FORECAST IS BASED ON CLOUDS/FOG DISSIPATING BY MID MORNING AND COMBINED WITH A MILD START WILL STILL MAKE IT INTO THE MID 50S ACROSS THE NORTH TO THE MID 60S IN THE CENTRAL AND SOUTH. ANOTHER MILD NIGHT IS EXPECTED WEDNESDAY NIGHT WITH SOUTHERLY LOW LEVEL FLOW CONTINUING AHEAD OF AN APPROACHING COLD FRONT. THE COLD FRONT WILL REMAIN WEST OF THE AREA THROUGH THE OVERNIGHT HOURS. ANOTHER MILD DAY IS EXPECTED THANKSGIVING DAY AS THE FRONTAL PASSAGE LOOKS LIKE IT WILL OCCUR DURING THE AFTERNOON HOURS. AS MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY...NAM IS THE FASTEST SOLUTION AND USED A MODEL CONSENSUS. IN EITHER CASE...THE COLDER AIR LAGS BEHIND AND WILL NOT ARRIVE UNTIL THURSDAY NIGHT. GFS CONTINUES TO BE THE ONLY MODEL THAT GENERATES SHOWERS OVER SOUTHWEST WISCONSIN...WITH THE GEM AND ECMWF KEEPING THE RAIN JUST SOUTH OF THE AREA. WILL CONTINUE LOWER END PROBABILITIES ACROSS FAR SOUTHWEST WISCONSIN. STRONG COLD ADVECTION EXPECTED BEHIND THE FRONT THURSDAY NIGHT ALONG WITH A TIGHTENING PRESSURE GRADIENT. STRATUS LOOKS TO ADVECT SOUTHWARD AS THE NIGHT WEARS ON...ESPECIALLY ACROSS THE NORTHERN HALF OF THE FORECAST AREA. THESE CLOUDS WILL THEN CONTINUE INTO FRIDAY. PRESSURE GRADIENT RATHER TIGHT FRIDAY AND LOOKS LIKE A BLUSTERY AND COLD DAY WITH TEMPERATURES ONLY CLIMBING A FEW DEGREES FROM THE MORNING LOWS. BETTER CHANCES FOR LIGHT SHOW/RAIN WILL BE ACROSS THE NORTH AND WILL CONTINUE THE LOWER END PROBABILITIES IN THESE AREAS. HIGH PRESSURE THEN BUILDS EASTWARD FROM THE PLAINS FRIDAY NIGHT AND WITH CLEAR SKIES EXPECTED...LOWS WILL BE IN THE TEENS TO LOWER 20S. .LONG TERM... 301 PM CST TUE NOV 20 2012 MEDIUM RANGE MODELS DO SHOW SOME DIFFERENCES IN THIS TIME FRAME. 20.12Z ECMWF HAS BACKED OFF ON A NEGATIVELY TILTED TROUGH DEVELOPING EARLY NEXT WEEK AND NOW HAS MAINLY A ZONAL FLOW REGIME. GFS AND ECMWF DO DIFFER WITH SOME SUBTLE WAVES EXPECTED TO TRANSLATE THROUGH THE FLOW FROM SUNDAY THROUGH TUESDAY. SURFACE HIGH PRESSURE WILL DOMINATE THE PATTERN SATURDAY...BUT AFTER THAT CONFIDENCE IS RATHER LOW IN ANY ONE SOLUTION AND THUS HAVE WENT WITH THE MODEL CONSENSUS. TEMPERATURES LOOK TO REMAIN BELOW NORMAL THROUGH THE PERIOD...WITH HIGHS MAINLY IN THE 30S WITH LOWS IN THE TEENS AND 20S. && .AVIATION...THIS AFTERNOON THROUGH WEDNESDAY 1125 AM CST TUE NOV 20 2012 A VERY PROBLEMATIC PERIOD WITH ABUNDANT LOW LEVEL MOISTURE TRAPPED UNDER A RATHER STRONG INVERSION NEAR 925 MB. LIGHT WINDS/LIMITED MIXING THIS TIME OF YEAR HAVE RESULTED IN PERSISTENT IFR/LIFR DENSE FOG 25-50 MILES EITHER SIDE OF THE MS RIVER. SFC OBS/VIS IMAGERY SHOWING ONLY A VERY SLOW EROSION/IMPROVEMENT OF THE FOG AS OF MID-DAY. SOME IMPROVEMENT FROM LIFR TO IFR IN THIS BAND OF LOW CLOUDS/FOG EXPECTED THRU THE AFTERNOON. RADIATIONAL COOLING/LIGHT WINDS UNDER THE INVERSION WILL ALLOW THE FOG TO RE-THICKEN AGAIN TONIGHT...AT LEAST THRU THE EVENING HOURS. SFC PRESSURE GRADIENT TIGHTENS LATER TONIGHT AND INTO WED...ALLOWING FOR BOUNDARY LAYER MIXING UNDER THE INVERSION. THIS EXPECTED TO RESULT IN MORE IFR/LIFR STRATUS AND 1-3SM VSBYS IN BR VS. M1/4SM IN FG IF THE WINDS WERE TO STAY LIGHT/VARIABLE. GRADIENT CONTINUES TO TIGHTEN WED WITH WARMER/ DRIER AIR ADVECTING/MIXING IN FROM THE SOUTHWEST. GIVEN THE TIME OF YEAR...IFR/MVFR VSBYS AND SOME IFR CIGS LIKELY TO PERSIST THRU MUCH OF WED MORNING BEFORE CONDITIONS IMPROVE WITH DEEPER MIXING/EROSION OF THE INVERSION FOR THE MID-DAY/AFTERNOON HOURS. && .CLIMATE... 200 AM CST SUN NOV 18 2012 RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURES FOR WEDNESDAY/21ST AND THURSDAY/22ND. COOP SITES ARE 7 AM-7 AM HIGHS...THUS 22ND HIGHS ARE 21.12Z TO 22.12Z. LA CROSSE AND ROCHESTER ARE THE ONLY NON-COOP SITES. FORECAST HIGH TEMPERATURES SUGGEST SOME OF THE RECORDS BELOW MAY BE TIED OR BROKEN. LOCATION WEDNESDAY/21ST THURSDAY/22ND LA CROSSE WI 72/1990 59/1963 SPARTA WI 65/1990 70/1990 MEDFORD WI 59/1913 65/1990 LANCASTER WI 66/2003 66/1898 MAUSTON WI 67/2003 66/1990 ROCHESTER MN 69/1990 65/1913 AUSTIN MN 70/1990 58/1966 WINONA DAM 5A MN 60/2003 60/2001 WABASHA MN 61/1908 59/1908 CHARLES CITY IA 71/1990 62/1966 OELWEIN IA 71/1990 62/1966 DECORAH IA 71/1990 62/1908 && .ARX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... 301 PM CST TUE NOV 20 2012 WI...NONE. MN...NONE. IA...NONE. && $$ SHORT TERM...RABERDING LONG TERM...RABERDING AVIATION.....RRS CLIMATE......JONES/DB/AJ/BOYNE
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS LA CROSSE WI
513 AM CST TUE NOV 20 2012 .SHORT TERM...TODAY THROUGH THANKSGIVING 513 AM CST TUE NOV 20 2012 513 AM UPDATE...EXPANDING THE ADVISORY TO SOME SOUTHWEST WISCONSIN COUNTIES. SEE WWA SECTION BELOW. HAVE REMOVED OLMSTED AND MOWER COUNTIES AS SOME DRIER AIR ON NORTHWEST WINDS HAS CLEARED OUT MUCH OF THE FOG THERE. THIS DRIER AIR SHOULD KEEP MAKING ITS WAY SOUTHEAST...SO MORE COUNTIES MAY BE ABLE TO BE REMOVED. NEEDLESS TO SAY A RAPIDLY EVOLVING SITUATION HERE WITH THE FOG. PREVIOUS SHORT TERM DISCUSSION AT 326 AM... AT 3 AM...A PACIFIC COLD FRONT WAS MOVING INTO SOUTHEAST MINNESOTA AND NORTHEAST IOWA. AHEAD OF THIS FRONT...WIDESPREAD DENSE FOG HAS DEVELOPED ACROSS MUCH OF NORTHEAST IOWA AND PARTS OF SOUTHEAST MINNESOTA. AS THIS FRONT MOVES THROUGH...IT HAS BEEN LESSENING THE DEPTH OF THE FOG. THIS HAS RESULTED IN SOME IMPROVEMENT IN THE VISIBILITIES IN THE WAKE OF THIS FRONT. NOT QUITE SURE WHAT THIS FOG IS GOING TO DO ONCE IT MOVES INTO WESTERN WISCONSIN. WILL IT JUST BE A DECK OF STRATUS OR WILL WE SEE RAPID DEVELOPMENT OF DENSE FOG. DUE TO THIS UNCERTAINTY HELD OFF EXPANDING THE DENSE FOG ADVISORY FOR NOW. FOR TODAY EXPECT TO SEE THE LOW CLOUDS AND FOG WILL DISSIPATE THIS MORNING. THIS WILL LEAVE AFTERNOON MAINLY SUNNY. SINCE THIS FRONT IS A PACIFIC ONE...TEMPERATURES SHOULD ONLY BE A FEW DEGREES COOLER THAN MONDAY. ON WEDNESDAY...SOUTHWEST WINDS ALOFT WILL BRING VERY WARM AIR INTO THE REGION FROM THE CENTRAL AND SOUTHERN PLAINS. 925 MB TEMPERATURES CLIMB FROM 8C THIS AFTERNOON TO 14C BY WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON. THE WARM AIR BEING BROUGHT ISENTOPICALLY OFF OF THE HIGH PLAINS WILL RESULT IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF A STRONG CAP. THIS WILL INHIBIT THE DEVELOPMENT OF ANY PRECIPITATION. HIGH TEMPERATURES WILL BE IN THE MID AND UPPER 50S NORTH OF INTERSTATE 94 CORRIDOR /WHICH WILL BE CLOSE TO SOME RECORDS/. MEANWHILE THE REMAINDER OF THE AREA WILL BE IN THE LOWER AND MID 60S. ON THANKSGIVING...BOTH THE GFS AND ECMWF SUGGEST THAT A SHORT WAVE TROUGH WILL AFFECT SOUTHWEST WISCONSIN AND NORTHEAST IOWA. SOUNDINGS SUGGEST THAT THE AIRMASS WILL MOISTEN ENOUGH THAT THERE COULD BE SOME ELEVATED SHOWERS MOVE THROUGH THIS AREA. DUE TO THIS BEING A CONSISTENT SIGNAL...KEPT A LOW /20 PERCENT/ PRECIPITATION PROBABILITY IN THE FORECAST. .LONG TERM...THURSDAY NIGHT THROUGH MONDAY 326 AM CST TUE NOV 20 2012 ON THURSDAY NIGHT AND FRIDAY...THE 20.00Z MODELS CONTINUE TO SHOW THAT A SHORT WAVE TROUGH WILL MOVE EAST THROUGH THE AREA. THIS SYSTEM WILL USHER IN MUCH COOLER AIR INTO THE REGION. TEMPERATURES WILL RUN NEAR TO SLIGHTLY BELOW NORMAL FROM FRIDAY INTO THE WEEKEND. THE MODELS ALSO SHOW THAT THERE WILL DEEP ENOUGH MOISTURE FOR A CHANCE OF SNOW ALONG AND NORTH OF THE INTERSTATE 94 CORRIDOR. MEANWHILE SOUTH OF THIS CORRIDOR...THE BUFKIT SOUNDINGS SHOW SOME WEAK OMEGA IN THE DENDRITIC GROWTH REGION AND THERE IS STEEP LAPSE RATES /AROUND 8C/KM / BETWEEN THE 950-850 MB. DUE TO THIS...INCLUDED SOME SCATTERED FLURRIES FOR THIS AREA FROM 29.09Z AND 29.12Z. GUSTY NORTHWEST WINDS AT 15 TO 20 KNOTS WILL PRODUCE WIND CHILLS FROM THE TEENS TO MID 20S. FOR EARLY NEXT WEEK AND BEYOND...UNCERTAINTY IS MUCH HIGHER THAN AVERAGE DUE TO THE FOLLOWING REASONS... 1. MADDEN JULIAN OSCILLATION /MJO/ - SEVERAL MODELS INCLUDING SOME RUNS OF THE ECMWF AND GFS TRY TO BRING A STRONG MJO SIGNAL INTO THE WESTERN PACIFIC BY EARLY NEXT WEEK. HOWEVER DURING THE PAST 3 DAYS...200 MB VELOCITY POTENTIAL ANOMALIES HAVE DRAMATICALLY DECREASED. IT WILL INTERESTING OVER THE WEEKEND WHETHER THIS OSCILLATION STRENGTHENS AS IT MOVES OVER 30C WATER IN THE WESTERN PACIFIC. 2. PHASE OF THE NORTH ATLANTIC OSCILLATION /NAO/ - FOR THE PAST WEEK THE MODELS HAVE BEEN STRUGGLING ON WHEN THE NAO WILL ONCE AGAIN BECOME NEGATIVE. CPC/S SPAGHETTI PLOT CONTINUES TO SHOW A WIDE RANGE OF SOLUTIONS FROM -1.5 TO 1. LOOKING AT THE 150 MB WIND ANOMALIES AND ALSO STRATOSPHERIC TEMPERATURES...DO NOT SEE ANY INDICATION OF A BLOCKING RIDGE DEVELOPING ANYWHERE IN THE NORTHERN HEMISPHERE. 3. CLIMATE MODELS - BOTH THE CFS VERSION 2 AND THE NORTH AMERICAN ENSEMBLE FORECASTING SYSTEM /NAEFS/ SHOW ABOVE- NORMAL TEMPERATURES FOR THE DAY 8 TO 14 TIME PERIOD. AS A RESULT...ANY COLD PERIOD SHOULD BE RATHER SHORT. THIS IS INCONSISTENT WITH SOME OF THE MODELS WHICH SHOW THAT SHOW A PERSISTENT TROUGH OVER THE AREA. WITH MIXED SIGNALS ACROSS THE GLOBE...VERY CAUTIOUS OF GRABBING ONTO ANY ONE MODEL SOLUTION...THUS...WILL KEEP PRECIPITATION PROBABILITIES LOW BEYOND DAY 5 UNTIL THERE IS A COHERENT DAY TO DAY SIGNAL. && .AVIATION... 1035 PM CST MON NOV 19 2012 FOG IS GOING TO BE A BIGGER PLAYER IN THE FORECAST THAN FIRST THOUGHT. MESO MODELS CONTINUE TO POINT TO A RELATIVELY MOIST BOUNDARY LAYER UNDER AN INVERSION TONIGHT...WITH LIGHT SFC WINDS. FOG HAS ALREADY BEGUN TO DEVELOP WEST OF A CLOUD MASS THAT SAT ACROSS MOST OF WI...PER LATEST FOG/STRATUS SATELLITE IMAGERY. IN THE CLEAR REGION WEST OF THERE VSBYS HAVE ALREADY FALLEN BELOW 2 MILES IN MANY AREAS. BELIEVE VSBYS WILL DROP BELOW 1 MILE AT TIMES OVERNIGHT. PASSING SFC FRONT SHOULD USHER IN SOME DRIER AIR BY 12Z AT KRST...WHICH SHOULD HELP IMPROVE VSBYS. SOME NUMERICAL MODELS SUGGEST THAT FOG...POTENTIALLY DENSE...WOULD PERSIST THROUGH 15Z AT KRST. NOT BUYING THAT AT THIS MOMENT. A PERIOD OF IFR/LIFR LOOKS LIKELY AT KRST...AND PROBABLE AT KLSE. CAN/T RULE OUT THAT A DENSE FOG ADVISORY WILL BE NEEDED FOR PORTIONS OF THE REGION FOR EARLY TUE MORNING. WITH THE FOG WILL COME SOME STRATUS...ESPECIALLY AS THE FOG STARTS TO LIFT. RAP BUFKIT SOUNDINGS WOULD SCATTER OUT ANY CIGS BETWEEN 15-17Z. NOT ALL IS CLEAR CUT WITH VSBYS AND CIGS OVERNIGHT THOUGH...SO A CLOSE WATCH ON CONDITIONS WILL HAVE TO CONTINUE AND UPDATES MADE AS NEEDED. HIGH PRESSURE GRADUALLY BUILDS IN TUE AFTERNOON...BUT QUICKLY SLIDES SOUTHEAST OVERNIGHT. PRESSURE GRADIENT INCREASE BEHIND THE HIGH...AND COULD SEE SOME INCREASE IN WINDS TOWARD 12Z WED AS A RESULT. && .CLIMATE... 200 AM CST SUN NOV 18 2012 RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURES FOR WEDNESDAY/21ST AND THURSDAY/22ND. COOP SITES ARE 7 AM-7 AM HIGHS...THUS 22ND HIGHS ARE 21.12Z TO 22.12Z. LA CROSSE AND ROCHESTER ARE THE ONLY NON-COOP SITES. FORECAST HIGH TEMPERATURES SUGGEST SOME OF THE RECORDS BELOW MAY BE TIED OR BROKEN. LOCATION WEDNESDAY/21ST THURSDAY/22ND LA CROSSE WI 72/1990 59/1963 SPARTA WI 65/1990 70/1990 MEDFORD WI 59/1913 65/1990 LANCASTER WI 66/2003 66/1898 MAUSTON WI 67/2003 66/1990 ROCHESTER MN 69/1990 65/1913 AUSTIN MN 70/1990 58/1966 WINONA DAM 5A MN 60/2003 60/2001 WABASHA MN 61/1908 59/1908 CHARLES CITY IA 71/1990 62/1966 OELWEIN IA 71/1990 62/1966 DECORAH IA 71/1990 62/1908 && .ARX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... 513 AM CST TUE NOV 20 2012 WI...DENSE FOG ADVISORY UNTIL 10 AM CST THIS MORNING FOR WIZ032>034- 041-042-053. MN...DENSE FOG ADVISORY UNTIL 10 AM CST THIS MORNING FOR MNZ079-088- 095-096. IA...DENSE FOG ADVISORY UNTIL 10 AM CST THIS MORNING FOR IAZ008>011- 018-019-029-030. && $$ SHORT TERM...BOYNE/AJ LONG TERM...BOYNE AVIATION.....RIECK CLIMATE......JONES/DB/AJ/BOYNE
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS LA CROSSE WI
326 AM CST TUE NOV 20 2012 .SHORT TERM...TODAY THROUGH THANKSGIVING 326 AM CST TUE NOV 20 2012 AT 3 AM...A PACIFIC COLD FRONT WAS MOVING INTO SOUTHEAST MINNESOTA AND NORTHEAST IOWA. AHEAD OF THIS FRONT...WIDESPREAD DENSE FOG HAS DEVELOPED ACROSS MUCH OF NORTHEAST IOWA AND PARTS OF SOUTHEAST MINNESOTA. AS THIS FRONT MOVES THROUGH...IT HAS BEEN LESSENING THE DEPTH OF THE FOG. THIS HAS RESULTED IN SOME IMPROVEMENT IN THE VISIBILITIES IN THE WAKE OF THIS FRONT. NOT QUITE SURE WHAT THIS FOG IS GOING TO DO ONCE IT MOVES INTO WESTERN WISCONSIN. WILL IT JUST BE A DECK OF STRATUS OR WILL WE SEE RAPID DEVELOPMENT OF DENSE FOG. DUE TO THIS UNCERTAINTY HELD OFF EXPANDING THE DENSE FOG ADVISORY FOR NOW. FOR TODAY EXPECT TO SEE THE LOW CLOUDS AND FOG WILL DISSIPATE THIS MORNING. THIS WILL LEAVE AFTERNOON MAINLY SUNNY. SINCE THIS FRONT IS A PACIFIC ONE...TEMPERATURES SHOULD ONLY BE A FEW DEGREES COOLER THAN MONDAY. ON WEDNESDAY...SOUTHWEST WINDS ALOFT WILL BRING VERY WARM AIR INTO THE REGION FROM THE CENTRAL AND SOUTHERN PLAINS. 925 MB TEMPERATURES CLIMB FROM 8C THIS AFTERNOON TO 14C BY WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON. THE WARM AIR BEING BROUGHT ISENTOPICALLY OFF OF THE HIGH PLAINS WILL RESULT IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF A STRONG CAP. THIS WILL INHIBIT THE DEVELOPMENT OF ANY PRECIPITATION. HIGH TEMPERATURES WILL BE IN THE MID AND UPPER 50S NORTH OF INTERSTATE 94 CORRIDOR /WHICH WILL BE CLOSE TO SOME RECORDS/. MEANWHILE THE REMAINDER OF THE AREA WILL BE IN THE LOWER AND MID 60S. ON THANKSGIVING...BOTH THE GFS AND ECMWF SUGGEST THAT A SHORT WAVE TROUGH WILL AFFECT SOUTHWEST WISCONSIN AND NORTHEAST IOWA. SOUNDINGS SUGGEST THAT THE AIRMASS WILL MOISTEN ENOUGH THAT THERE COULD BE SOME ELEVATED SHOWERS MOVE THROUGH THIS AREA. DUE TO THIS BEING A CONSISTENT SIGNAL...KEPT A LOW /20 PERCENT/ PRECIPITATION PROBABILITY IN THE FORECAST. .LONG TERM...THURSDAY NIGHT THROUGH MONDAY 326 AM CST TUE NOV 20 2012 ON THURSDAY NIGHT AND FRIDAY...THE 20.00Z MODELS CONTINUE TO SHOW THAT A SHORT WAVE TROUGH WILL MOVE EAST THROUGH THE AREA. THIS SYSTEM WILL USHER IN MUCH COOLER AIR INTO THE REGION. TEMPERATURES WILL RUN NEAR TO SLIGHTLY BELOW NORMAL FROM FRIDAY INTO THE WEEKEND. THE MODELS ALSO SHOW THAT THERE WILL DEEP ENOUGH MOISTURE FOR A CHANCE OF SNOW ALONG AND NORTH OF THE INTERSTATE 94 CORRIDOR. MEANWHILE SOUTH OF THIS CORRIDOR...THE BUFKIT SOUNDINGS SHOW SOME WEAK OMEGA IN THE DENDRITIC GROWTH REGION AND THERE IS STEEP LAPSE RATES /AROUND 8C/KM / BETWEEN THE 950-850 MB. DUE TO THIS...INCLUDED SOME SCATTERED FLURRIES FOR THIS AREA FROM 29.09Z AND 29.12Z. GUSTY NORTHWEST WINDS AT 15 TO 20 KNOTS WILL PRODUCE WIND CHILLS FROM THE TEENS TO MID 20S. FOR EARLY NEXT WEEK AND BEYOND...UNCERTAINTY IS MUCH HIGHER THAN AVERAGE DUE TO THE FOLLOWING REASONS... 1. MADDEN JULIAN OSCILLATION /MJO/ - SEVERAL MODELS INCLUDING SOME RUNS OF THE ECMWF AND GFS TRY TO BRING A STRONG MJO SIGNAL INTO THE WESTERN PACIFIC BY EARLY NEXT WEEK. HOWEVER DURING THE PAST 3 DAYS...200 MB VELOCITY POTENTIAL ANOMALIES HAVE DRAMATICALLY DECREASED. IT WILL INTERESTING OVER THE WEEKEND WHETHER THIS OSCILLATION STRENGTHENS AS IT MOVES OVER 30C WATER IN THE WESTERN PACIFIC. 2. PHASE OF THE NORTH ATLANTIC OSCILLATION /NAO/ - FOR THE PAST WEEK THE MODELS HAVE BEEN STRUGGLING ON WHEN THE NAO WILL ONCE AGAIN BECOME NEGATIVE. CPC/S SPAGHETTI PLOT CONTINUES TO SHOW A WIDE RANGE OF SOLUTIONS FROM -1.5 TO 1. LOOKING AT THE 150 MB WIND ANOMALIES AND ALSO STRATOSPHERIC TEMPERATURES...DO NOT SEE ANY INDICATION OF A BLOCKING RIDGE DEVELOPING ANYWHERE IN THE NORTHERN HEMISPHERE. 3. CLIMATE MODELS - BOTH THE CFS VERSION 2 AND THE NORTH AMERICAN ENSEMBLE FORECASTING SYSTEM /NAEFS/ SHOW ABOVE- NORMAL TEMPERATURES FOR THE DAY 8 TO 14 TIME PERIOD. AS A RESULT...ANY COLD PERIOD SHOULD BE RATHER SHORT. THIS IS INCONSISTENT WITH SOME OF THE MODELS WHICH SHOW THAT SHOW A PERSISTENT TROUGH OVER THE AREA. WITH MIXED SIGNALS ACROSS THE GLOBE...VERY CAUTIOUS OF GRABBING ONTO ANY ONE MODEL SOLUTION...THUS...WILL KEEP PRECIPITATION PROBABILITIES LOW BEYOND DAY 5 UNTIL THERE IS A COHERENT DAY TO DAY SIGNAL. && .AVIATION... 1035 PM CST MON NOV 19 2012 FOG IS GOING TO BE A BIGGER PLAYER IN THE FORECAST THAN FIRST THOUGHT. MESO MODELS CONTINUE TO POINT TO A RELATIVELY MOIST BOUNDARY LAYER UNDER AN INVERSION TONIGHT...WITH LIGHT SFC WINDS. FOG HAS ALREADY BEGUN TO DEVELOP WEST OF A CLOUD MASS THAT SAT ACROSS MOST OF WI...PER LATEST FOG/STRATUS SATELLITE IMAGERY. IN THE CLEAR REGION WEST OF THERE VSBYS HAVE ALREADY FALLEN BELOW 2 MILES IN MANY AREAS. BELIEVE VSBYS WILL DROP BELOW 1 MILE AT TIMES OVERNIGHT. PASSING SFC FRONT SHOULD USHER IN SOME DRIER AIR BY 12Z AT KRST...WHICH SHOULD HELP IMPROVE VSBYS. SOME NUMERICAL MODELS SUGGEST THAT FOG...POTENTIALLY DENSE...WOULD PERSIST THROUGH 15Z AT KRST. NOT BUYING THAT AT THIS MOMENT. A PERIOD OF IFR/LIFR LOOKS LIKELY AT KRST...AND PROBABLE AT KLSE. CAN/T RULE OUT THAT A DENSE FOG ADVISORY WILL BE NEEDED FOR PORTIONS OF THE REGION FOR EARLY TUE MORNING. WITH THE FOG WILL COME SOME STRATUS...ESPECIALLY AS THE FOG STARTS TO LIFT. RAP BUFKIT SOUNDINGS WOULD SCATTER OUT ANY CIGS BETWEEN 15-17Z. NOT ALL IS CLEAR CUT WITH VSBYS AND CIGS OVERNIGHT THOUGH...SO A CLOSE WATCH ON CONDITIONS WILL HAVE TO CONTINUE AND UPDATES MADE AS NEEDED. HIGH PRESSURE GRADUALLY BUILDS IN TUE AFTERNOON...BUT QUICKLY SLIDES SOUTHEAST OVERNIGHT. PRESSURE GRADIENT INCREASE BEHIND THE HIGH...AND COULD SEE SOME INCREASE IN WINDS TOWARD 12Z WED AS A RESULT. && .CLIMATE... 200 AM CST SUN NOV 18 2012 RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURES FOR WEDNESDAY/21ST AND THURSDAY/22ND. COOP SITES ARE 7 AM-7 AM HIGHS...THUS 22ND HIGHS ARE 21.12Z TO 22.12Z. LA CROSSE AND ROCHESTER ARE THE ONLY NON-COOP SITES. FORECAST HIGH TEMPERATURES SUGGEST SOME OF THE RECORDS BELOW MAY BE TIED OR BROKEN. LOCATION WEDNESDAY/21ST THURSDAY/22ND LA CROSSE WI 72/1990 59/1963 SPARTA WI 65/1990 70/1990 MEDFORD WI 59/1913 65/1990 LANCASTER WI 66/2003 66/1898 MAUSTON WI 67/2003 66/1990 ROCHESTER MN 69/1990 65/1913 AUSTIN MN 70/1990 58/1966 WINONA DAM 5A MN 60/2003 60/2001 WABASHA MN 61/1908 59/1908 CHARLES CITY IA 71/1990 62/1966 OELWEIN IA 71/1990 62/1966 DECORAH IA 71/1990 62/1908 && .ARX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... 117 AM CST TUE NOV 20 2012 WI...NONE. MN...DENSE FOG ADVISORY UNTIL 10 AM CST THIS MORNING FOR MNZ079-087- 088-094>096. IA...DENSE FOG ADVISORY UNTIL 10 AM CST THIS MORNING FOR IAZ008>011- 018-019-029-030. && $$ SHORT TERM...BOYNE LONG TERM...BOYNE AVIATION.....RIECK CLIMATE......JONES/DB/AJ/BOYNE
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NWS LA CROSSE WI
227 AM CST TUE NOV 20 2012 .SHORT TERM...THIS MORNING 227 AM CST TUE NOV 20 2012 THE DENSE FOG THAT FORMED NEAR MIDNIGHT OVER WESTERN PORTIONS OF SOUTHEAST MINNESOTA AND NORTHEAST IOWA HAS BEEN SPREADING WESTWARD. AS A RESULT...HAVE EXPANDED THE ADVISORY TO INCLUDE THE COUNTIES BORDERING THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER. WILL CONTINUE TO WATCH SATELLITE AND OBSERVATIONAL TRENDS...BUT THERE IS CONCERN THAT SOME WISCONSIN COUNTIES MAY EVENTUALLY BE NEEDED IN THE ADVISORY TOO. WILL EVALUATE THE NEED FOR FURTHER EXPANSION DURING THE NEXT HOUR. ALSO...THE LAST FEW HRRR RUNS WITH THE VISIBILITY PROGS SUGGEST THIS FOG MAY TAKE LONGER TO DISSIPATE THAN PREVIOUSLY EXPECTED AT MIDNIGHT. INITIAL THOUGHT WAS THAT THIS COLD FRONT COMING THROUGH SOUTHEAST MINNESOTA AND NORTHEAST IOWA...NOTED BY WEST WINDS AT ROCHESTER...DODGE CENTER AND PRESTON...WOULD HELP CLEAR UP THE FOG. THIS HAS OCCURRED AT DODGE CENTER AND AS WELL FARTHER SOUTH AT MASON CITY IN IOWA. HOWEVER...IT APPEARS IT IS TAKING AWHILE AT AUSTIN TO DO SO. THUS...THINKING THE FOG MAY BE DEEPER AND MORE RESILIENT TO CLEARING. PLUS...POST FRONTAL...TEMPERATURES AND DEWPOINTS DO NOT DROP ALL THAT MUCH. YOU HAVE TO GO BACK INTO SOUTHWEST MINNESOTA TO GET DEWPOINTS BELOW FREEZING. HRRR VISIBILITY PROGS SUGGEST THE FOG COULD STICK AROUND UNTIL 16Z OR SO. AS A RESULT...HAVE PLAYED THE PESSIMISTIC ROUTE AND EXTENDED THE ADVISORY TO 16Z. .LONG TERM... 250 PM CST MON NOV 19 2012 SYSTEM DEPARTS ON FRIDAY...WITH CYCLONIC FLOW ACROSS THE AREA. TEMPERATURES WILL BE BELOW NORMAL WITH HIGHS MAINLY IN THE 30S. MAIN PRECIPITATION CHANCE WILL BE ACROSS THE FAR NORTH. OTHERWISE...REMAINDER OF THE PERIOD WILL BE DOMINATED BY SEASONAL TO BELOW NORMAL TEMPERATURES. BEST CHANCE FOR ANY PRECIPITATION LOOKS BE ON MONDAY...BUT MODELS SHOWING SOME DIFFERENCES WITH A DEVELOPING TROUGH ACROSS THE CENTRAL CONUS. 19.12Z ECMWF SHOWS THIS FEATURE WITH CYCLOGENESIS OCCURRING...WHILE THE GFS KEEPS FLOW MORE ZONAL. IF THE ECMWF DOES VERIFY WILL HAVE TO WATCH THIS SYSTEM FOR PERIODS BEYOND MONDAY. && .AVIATION... 1035 PM CST MON NOV 19 2012 FOG IS GOING TO BE A BIGGER PLAYER IN THE FORECAST THAN FIRST THOUGHT. MESO MODELS CONTINUE TO POINT TO A RELATIVELY MOIST BOUNDARY LAYER UNDER AN INVERSION TONIGHT...WITH LIGHT SFC WINDS. FOG HAS ALREADY BEGUN TO DEVELOP WEST OF A CLOUD MASS THAT SAT ACROSS MOST OF WI...PER LATEST FOG/STRATUS SATELLITE IMAGERY. IN THE CLEAR REGION WEST OF THERE VSBYS HAVE ALREADY FALLEN BELOW 2 MILES IN MANY AREAS. BELIEVE VSBYS WILL DROP BELOW 1 MILE AT TIMES OVERNIGHT. PASSING SFC FRONT SHOULD USHER IN SOME DRIER AIR BY 12Z AT KRST...WHICH SHOULD HELP IMPROVE VSBYS. SOME NUMERICAL MODELS SUGGEST THAT FOG...POTENTIALLY DENSE...WOULD PERSIST THROUGH 15Z AT KRST. NOT BUYING THAT AT THIS MOMENT. A PERIOD OF IFR/LIFR LOOKS LIKELY AT KRST...AND PROBABLE AT KLSE. CAN/T RULE OUT THAT A DENSE FOG ADVISORY WILL BE NEEDED FOR PORTIONS OF THE REGION FOR EARLY TUE MORNING. WITH THE FOG WILL COME SOME STRATUS...ESPECIALLY AS THE FOG STARTS TO LIFT. RAP BUFKIT SOUNDINGS WOULD SCATTER OUT ANY CIGS BETWEEN 15-17Z. NOT ALL IS CLEAR CUT WITH VSBYS AND CIGS OVERNIGHT THOUGH...SO A CLOSE WATCH ON CONDITIONS WILL HAVE TO CONTINUE AND UPDATES MADE AS NEEDED. HIGH PRESSURE GRADUALLY BUILDS IN TUE AFTERNOON...BUT QUICKLY SLIDES SOUTHEAST OVERNIGHT. PRESSURE GRADIENT INCREASE BEHIND THE HIGH...AND COULD SEE SOME INCREASE IN WINDS TOWARD 12Z WED AS A RESULT. && .CLIMATE... 200 AM CST SUN NOV 18 2012 RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURES FOR WEDNESDAY/21ST AND THURSDAY/22ND. COOP SITES ARE 6AM-6AM HIGHS...THUS 22ND HIGHS ARE 21.12Z TO 22.12Z. LA CROSSE AND ROCHESTER ARE ONLY NON-COOP SITES. FORECAST HIGH TEMPERATURES SUGGEST SOME OF THE RECORDS BELOW MAY BE TIED OR BROKEN. LOCATION WEDNESDAY/21ST THURSDAY/22ND LA CROSSE WI 72/1990 59/1963 SPARTA WI 65/1990 70/1990 MEDFORD WI 59/1913 65/1990 LANCASTER WI 66/2003 66/1898 MAUSTON WI 67/2003 66/1990 ROCHESTER MN 69/1990 65/1913 AUSTIN MN 70/1990 58/1966 WINONA DAM 5A MN 60/2003 60/2001 WABASHA MN 61/1908 59/1908 CHARLES CITY IA 71/1990 62/1966 OELWEIN IA 71/1990 62/1966 DECORAH IA 71/1990 62/1908 && .ARX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... 227 AM CST TUE NOV 20 2012 WI...NONE. MN...DENSE FOG ADVISORY UNTIL 10 AM CST THIS MORNING FOR MNZ079-087- 088-094>096. IA...DENSE FOG ADVISORY UNTIL 10 AM CST THIS MORNING FOR IAZ008>011- 018-019-029-030. && $$ SHORT TERM...AJ LONG TERM....RABERDING AVIATION.....RIECK CLIMATE......JONES/DB/AJ
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NWS LA CROSSE WI
1035 PM CST MON NOV 19 2012 .SHORT TERM... 920 PM CST MON NOV 19 2012 QUICK UPDATE TO ADD FOG MENTION TO THE FORECAST FOR TONIGHT. THIS MORNING/S RAINS...WHILE ONLY MINIMAL IN AMOUNTS...DID HELP ADD SOME MOISTURE TO THE BOUNDARY LAYER. SFC WINDS ARE BECOMING LIGHT AND SOME FUZZ IS STARTING TO DEVELOP OVER PARTS OF IOWA...JUST WEST OF THE CLOUD EDGE. BUFKIT SOUNDINGS SUGGEST THAT THE LOW LEVEL MOISTURE WILL REMAIN IN PLACE OVERNIGHT...WITH THE INVERSION TRAPPING IT. SOME LOW STRATUS/FOG WOULD BE THE RESULT. FRONT IS APPROACHING...BUT LIKELY WON/T CLEAR FORECAST AREA UNTIL WELL AFTER 12Z. THE LIGHT WINDS AREN/T PARTICULAR DEEP THOUGH...INCREASING TO 10 KTS OR SO WITHIN A FEW HUNDRED FEET. STILL...ENOUGH FAVORABLE VARIABLES FOR FOG FORMATION THAT HAVE ADDED PATCHY-AREAS OF FOG TO THE FORECAST FOR TONIGHT. ALL SAID...CONDITIONS WILL HAVE TO BE MONITORED THROUGH THE OVERNIGHT HOURS. IF THE FRONT SLOWS UP...CAN/T RULE OUT THE POSSIBILITY OF HEADLINES FOR DENSE FOG...MOSTLY WEST OF THE CURRENT CLOUD SHIELD OVER WI. .LONG TERM... 250 PM CST MON NOV 19 2012 SYSTEM DEPARTS ON FRIDAY...WITH CYCLONIC FLOW ACROSS THE AREA. TEMPERATURES WILL BE BELOW NORMAL WITH HIGHS MAINLY IN THE 30S. MAIN PRECIPITATION CHANCE WILL BE ACROSS THE FAR NORTH. OTHERWISE...REMAINDER OF THE PERIOD WILL BE DOMINATED BY SEASONAL TO BELOW NORMAL TEMPERATURES. BEST CHANCE FOR ANY PRECIPITATION LOOKS BE ON MONDAY...BUT MODELS SHOWING SOME DIFFERENCES WITH A DEVELOPING TROUGH ACROSS THE CENTRAL CONUS. 19.12Z ECMWF SHOWS THIS FEATURE WITH CYCLOGENESIS OCCURRING...WHILE THE GFS KEEPS FLOW MORE ZONAL. IF THE ECMWF DOES VERIFY WILL HAVE TO WATCH THIS SYSTEM FOR PERIODS BEYOND MONDAY. && .AVIATION... 1035 PM CST MON NOV 19 2012 FOG IS GOING TO BE A BIGGER PLAYER IN THE FORECAST THAN FIRST THOUGHT. MESO MODELS CONTINUE TO POINT TO A RELATIVELY MOIST BOUNDARY LAYER UNDER AN INVERSION TONIGHT...WITH LIGHT SFC WINDS. FOG HAS ALREADY BEGUN TO DEVELOP WEST OF A CLOUD MASS THAT SAT ACROSS MOST OF WI...PER LATEST FOG/STRATUS SATELLITE IMAGERY. IN THE CLEAR REGION WEST OF THERE VSBYS HAVE ALREADY FALLEN BELOW 2 MILES IN MANY AREAS. BELIEVE VSBYS WILL DROP BELOW 1 MILE AT TIMES OVERNIGHT. PASSING SFC FRONT SHOULD USHER IN SOME DRIER AIR BY 12Z AT KRST...WHICH SHOULD HELP IMPROVE VSBYS. SOME NUMERICAL MODELS SUGGEST THAT FOG...POTENTIALLY DENSE...WOULD PERSIST THROUGH 15Z AT KRST. NOT BUYING THAT AT THIS MOMENT. A PERIOD OF IFR/LIFR LOOKS LIKELY AT KRST...AND PROBABLE AT KLSE. CAN/T RULE OUT THAT A DENSE FOG ADVISORY WILL BE NEEDED FOR PORTIONS OF THE REGION FOR EARLY TUE MORNING. WITH THE FOG WILL COME SOME STRATUS...ESPECIALLY AS THE FOG STARTS TO LIFT. RAP BUFKIT SOUNDINGS WOULD SCATTER OUT ANY CIGS BETWEEN 15-17Z. NOT ALL IS CLEAR CUT WITH VSBYS AND CIGS OVERNIGHT THOUGH...SO A CLOSE WATCH ON CONDITIONS WILL HAVE TO CONTINUE AND UPDATES MADE AS NEEDED. HIGH PRESSURE GRADUALLY BUILDS IN TUE AFTERNOON...BUT QUICKLY SLIDES SOUTHEAST OVERNIGHT. PRESSURE GRADIENT INCREASE BEHIND THE HIGH...AND COULD SEE SOME INCREASE IN WINDS TOWARD 12Z WED AS A RESULT. && .CLIMATE... 200 AM CST SUN NOV 18 2012 RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURES FOR WEDNESDAY/21ST AND THURSDAY/22ND. COOP SITES ARE 6AM-6AM HIGHS...THUS 22ND HIGHS ARE 21.12Z TO 22.12Z. LA CROSSE AND ROCHESTER ARE ONLY NON-COOP SITES. FORECAST HIGH TEMPERATURES SUGGEST SOME OF THE RECORDS BELOW MAY BE TIED OR BROKEN. LOCATION WEDNESDAY/21ST THURSDAY/22ND LA CROSSE WI 72/1990 59/1963 SPARTA WI 65/1990 70/1990 MEDFORD WI 59/1913 65/1990 LANCASTER WI 66/2003 66/1898 MAUSTON WI 67/2003 66/1990 ROCHESTER MN 69/1990 65/1913 AUSTIN MN 70/1990 58/1966 WINONA DAM 5A MN 60/2003 60/2001 WABASHA MN 61/1908 59/1908 CHARLES CITY IA 71/1990 62/1966 OELWEIN IA 71/1990 62/1966 DECORAH IA 71/1990 62/1908 && .ARX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... 250 PM CST MON NOV 19 2012 WI...NONE. MN...NONE. IA...NONE. && $$ SHORT TERM...RIECK LONG TERM....RABERDING AVIATION.....RIECK CLIMATE......JONES/DB/AJ
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NWS DES MOINES IA
328 AM CST THU NOV 22 2012 .SHORT TERM /TODAY/... MAIN CONCERN TODAY WILL BE THE WIND FOLLOWING THE FRONT BETWEEN MID TO LATE AFTERNOON HOURS ACROSS THE NORTH. GUIDANCE AND BUFR SOUNDINGS STILL SUGGEST SUSTAINED WINDS NEAR 30 MPH IN THE ADVISORY AREA WITH GUSTS TO NEAR 40 TO 45 MPH BY MID AFTERNOON. THE PEAK CONDITIONS ARE ONLY EXPECTED TO LAST ABOUT 2 TO 3 HOURS BETWEEN 2 AND 5 PM AND AS SUN SETS...EXPECT THAT WIND GUSTS WILL DROP OFF RATHER QUICKLY. ANOTHER WARM DAY IS EXPECTED FOR THANKSGIVING WITH SOUTH WINDS AHEAD OF THE ADVANCING COLD FRONT. HIGHS WILL REACH THE 60S OVER MUCH OF THE SOUTHEAST WHILE THE NORTHWEST WILL BEGIN TO SEE HIGHS RETREATING INTO THE 50S FOR THE DAY. BY 12Z FRONT WILL REACH FAR NW CORNER WITH FRONT NEARLY BISECTING THE REGION BY 18Z. FRONT WILL BE THROUGH THE REGION BY LATE AFTERNOON WITH FALLING TEMPERATURES BEHIND THE SYSTEM. MOISTURE IS STILL LACKING WITH THE SYSTEM AND WILL CONTINUE ONLY SLIGHT CHANCES FOR RAIN IN THE FAR SOUTHEAST FOR EARLY AFTERNOON HOURS. REMAINDER OF THE AREA WILL BE RAIN FREE. .LONG TERM /TONIGHT THROUGH WEDNESDAY/... MAIN FORECAST CONCERN FOR BEGINNING OF EXTENDED WILL BE WINDS TONIGHT AND TEMPERATURES. FRONT WILL CONTINUE TO PUSH ACROSS THE FAR SE OF CWA OVERNIGHT TONIGHT...WITH MUCH COLDER TEMPERATURES AND STRONG WINDS BEHIND THE FRONT. HAVE KEPT WINDS UP OVERNIGHT WITH STRONG PUSH OF SUBSIDENCE BEHIND FRONT AND CAA. WITH STRONG WINDS WILL KEEP WIND ADVISORY THROUGH THE OVERNIGHT HOURS ACROSS THE NORTH. AS LOW PULLS EASTWARD...WINDS WILL RELAX A BIT FOR FRIDAY AFTERNOON...BUT COLD CANADIAN AIR WILL CONTINUE TO STREAM OVER REGION...WITH HIGHS SLIGHTLY BELOW NORMAL. BROAD UPPER LEVEL RIDGE WILL REMAIN OVER PLAINS FOR THE WEEKEND...WITH SURFACE HIGH PRESSURE PUSHING SE. HAVE DROPPED TEMPERATURES A FEW DEGREES FRIDAY NIGHT AS CONDITIONS LOOK RIGHT FOR A GOOD RADIATIONAL COOLING NIGHT WITH LIGHT WINDS AND CLEAR SKIES AND CENTER OF HIGH PASSING WEST OF CWA. WAA WILL THEN SET IN FOR SATURDAY AND SUNDAY AND SOUTHERLY FLOW WILL RETURN WITH TEMPERATURES WARMING SLIGHTLY FOR THE END OF THE WEEKEND AHEAD OF ANOTHER FRONTAL BOUNDARY. ANOTHER WEEK FRONTAL BOUNDARY WILL PUSH SOUTH ACROSS IOWA FOR LATE SUNDAY...WITH LIMITED MOISTURE...HAVE OPTED TO KEEP CONDITIONS DRY FOR SUNDAY AND SUNDAY NIGHT...THOUGH CANNOT RULE OUT LIGHT RAIN...DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH CONFIDENCE TO INCLUDE MENTION ATTM. SYSTEM BECOME MUDDLED WITH LITTLE MODEL AGREEMENT. ECMWF CONTINUES TO PUSH FRONT SOUTH...WITH GEM AND GFS PULLING AN AREA OF LOW PRESSURE NE ACROSS THE AREA. HAVE CONTINUED TO TREND TOWARD THE WETTER GEM/GFS SOLUTION WITH ECMWF/S DRY SOLUTION STILL AN OUTLIER. SYSTEM WILL QUICKLY PULL EASTWARD WITH PRECIP CHANCES ENDING BY TUESDAY NIGHT. WITH COOLER TEMPERATURES BEHIND FRONT COULD SEE RAIN/SNOW MIX CHANGING OVER TO SNOW MONDAY NIGHT INTO TUESDAY. HOWEVER ACCUMULATIONS LOOK TO BE MINIMAL ATTM. AS UPPER LEVEL NORTHWEST FLOW RETURNS FOR REMAINDER OF THE PERIOD...ANOTHER FAST MOVING SYSTEM IS EXPECTED TO PUSH ACROSS IOWA FOR LATE IN THE PERIOD. HOWEVER...HAVE OPTED TO KEEP CONDITIONS DRY FOR NOW GIVEN DIFFICULTY IN TIMING SUCH QUICK SYSTEM SO FAR OUT. && .AVIATION...22/06Z PRIMARY CONCERN REMAINS WINDS THROUGH THE PERIOD. SFC WINDS WILL REMAIN STEADY FROM THE SOUTH TONIGHT...BUT EXPECT LLWS TO PERSIST AT KDSM/KALO/KOTM WITH LATEST RAP STILL SHOWING 500M AGL WINDS /1600 FT/ AROUND 50KTS. HAVE REMOVED LLWS AT KFOD/KMCW HOWEVER WHERE WINDS ARE ALREADY GUSTING INTO THE 20S. LLWS SHOULD END BY MORNING WITH COLD FRONT REACHING NWRN IA BY 12Z. WINDS WILL THEN BECOME GUSTY BEHIND MIDDAY AND AFTERNOON COLD FRONTAL PASSAGE...GENERALLY 25-30KTS BUT A FEW PERIODS OF HIGHER GUSTS ARE ALSO POSSIBLE. GUSTY WINDS WILL CONTINUE BEYOND THE VALID PERIOD AND MAY EVEN BE STRONGER THU NIGHT INTO EARLY FRI. && .DMX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... WIND ADVISORY FROM NOON TODAY TO 6 AM CST FRIDAY FOR CALHOUN- CERRO GORDO-EMMET-HANCOCK-HUMBOLDT-KOSSUTH-PALO ALTO-POCAHONTAS- SAC-WEBSTER-WINNEBAGO-WORTH-WRIGHT. && $$ SHORT TERM...REV LONG TERM...AWB AVIATION...SMALL
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NWS DES MOINES IA
1127 PM CST WED NOV 21 2012 .SHORT TERM /TONIGHT/... FAIRLY TIGHT PRESSURE GRADIENT WILL CONTINUE TO PROVIDE GUSTY SOUTH WINDS THROUGH THE OVERNIGHT HOURS AS A SURFACE LOW AND COLD FRONT APPROACH THE STATE. THE SURFACE LOW LOOKS TO BE CENTERED OVER NORTHERN MN BY AROUND 12Z AND COLD FRONT WILL BE CLOSE TO WESTERN IOWA. WENT AT OR SLIGHTLY ABOVE GUIDANCE FOR OVERNIGHT LOWS TONIGHT...NAM BEING THE COLDEST COMPARED TO THE ECMWF/GFS. .LONG TERM /THURSDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY/... THURSDAY WILL BEGIN QUITE MILD WHICH WILL CONTINUE THROUGH NOON. A SHORT WAVE LIFTING THROUGH THE WEAKENING SOUTHWEST FLOW COULD BRING A FEW CLOUDS AND LIGHTS SHOWERS TO THE SOUTHEAST WHICH COULD TEMPER TEMPERATURES A BIT. A COLD FRONT WILL ENTER THE NORTHWEST AREA BY LATE MORNING THEN MOVE ACROSS THE REMAINDER OF CENTRAL IOWA THE REMAINDER OF THE DAY. TEMPERATURES WILL BE STEADY OR SLIGHTLY RISING WITH THE INITIAL FROPA DUE TO INCREASED MIXING BEFORE FALLING. THE MIXING WILL ALSO INCREASE THE WINDS THROUGH THE AFTERNOON. THE COLD ADVECTION WILL PROMOTE EFFICIENT MOMENTUM TRANSFER OF MIXED LAYER WINDS TO THE SURFACE. THIS WILL PUSH WINDS TO WIND ADVISORY CRITERIA OVER NORTHERN IOWA BY MID THURSDAY AFTERNOON. THE WINDS WILL DIMINISH A BIT INTO THE EVENING BEFORE ANOTHER SURGE OF COLD ADVECTION DROPS SOUTH OUT OF MINNESOTA LATE EVENING AND THROUGH THE REMAINDER OF THE NIGHT. THIS SURGE OF COLD ADVECTION WILL INCREASE LOW LEVEL MIXING ONCE AGAIN THOUGH MIXED LAYER WINDS WILL BE HIGHER THAN THE AFTERNOON. SHOULD REACH WIND ADVISORY CRITERIA AGAIN ESPECIALLY OVER NORTHERN IOWA. HAVE ISSUED A WIND ADVISORY FOR PORTIONS OF THE NORTH FOR THURSDAY AFTERNOON AND NIGHT TO COVER THESE EVENTS WHICH WILL IMPACT HOLIDAY TRAVEL. FRIDAY WILL BE A COLD AND BLUSTERY DAY WITH BREEZY NORTHWEST WINDS AND TEMPERATURES IN THE 30S. HIGH PRESSURE WILL SETTLE IN FRIDAY NIGHT WITH TEMPERATURES FALLING INTO THE TEENS MOST AREAS. SOUTHERLY WINDS WILL DEVELOP ON SATURDAY HOWEVER A STEEP LOW LEVEL INVERSION AND MID LEVEL THETA-E ADVECTION INDUCED CLOUDS WILL LIMIT MODERATION POTENTIAL. SUNDAY WILL BE WARMER AND CLOSER TO CLIMATOLOGY. A SHORT WAVE DROPPING THROUGH THE NORTHWEST FLOW EARLY NEXT WEEK WILL DRIVE A LONG WAVE TROUGH INTO THE REGION ALONG WITH ANOTHER COLD FRONT PUSHING TEMPERATURES BACK INTO THE 30S. THE PRIMARY PRECIPITATION EVENT AND LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM SHOULD TRACK SOUTHEAST OF IOWA AND INTO THE OHIO VALLEY. LIGHT RAIN OR SNOW IS POSSIBLE BUT LITTLE TO NO ACCUMULATION OF THE WHITE STUFF IS EXPECTED. && .AVIATION...22/06Z PRIMARY CONCERN REMAINS WINDS THROUGH THE PERIOD. SFC WINDS WILL REMAIN STEADY FROM THE SOUTH TONIGHT...BUT EXPECT LLWS TO PERSIST AT KDSM/KALO/KOTM WITH LATEST RAP STILL SHOWING 500M AGL WINDS /1600 FT/ AROUND 50KTS. HAVE REMOVED LLWS AT KFOD/KMCW HOWEVER WHERE WINDS ARE ALREADY GUSTING INTO THE 20S. LLWS SHOULD END BY MORNING WITH COLD FRONT REACHING NWRN IA BY 12Z. WINDS WILL THEN BECOME GUSTY BEHIND MIDDAY AND AFTERNOON COLD FRONTAL PASSAGE...GENERALLY 25-30KTS BUT A FEW PERIODS OF HIGHER GUSTS ARE ALSO POSSIBLE. GUSTY WINDS WILL CONTINUE BEYOND THE VALID PERIOD AND MAY EVEN BE STRONGER THU NIGHT INTO EARLY FRI. && .DMX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... WIND ADVISORY THURSDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH THURSDAY NIGHT EMMET-KOSSUTH-WINNEBAGO-WORTH-PALO ALTO-HANCOCK-CERRO GORDO- POCAHONTAS-HUMBOLDT-WRIGHT-SAC-CALHOUN-WEBSTER && $$ SHORT TERM...PODRAZIK LONG TERM...DONAVON AVIATION...SMALL
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NWS GOODLAND KS
226 AM MST THU NOV 22 2012 .SHORT TERM...(TODAY THROUGH SATURDAY NIGHT) ISSUED AT 226 AM MST THU NOV 22 2012 MAIN FORECAST ISSUE WILL BE THE WINDS TODAY WITH MINOR CONCERNS OF HOW MUCH IT COOLS OFF THROUGH TOMORROW AND HOW MUCH THE WARM UP IS ON SATURDAY. SATELLITE SHOWING AN AMPLIFIED PATTERN OVER THE PACIFIC WITH A LESS AMPLIFIED MORE PROGRESSIVE FLOW FROM NORTH AMERICA INTO THE ATLANTIC. COLD FRONT IS APPROACHING THE AREA FROM THE NORTHWEST. AT JET LEVEL...THE ECMWF WAS DOING A LITTLE BETTER THAN THE UKMET... CANADIAN...AND NAM ON THE JET SEGMENT ASSOCIATED WITH THE NORTHERN STREAM SYSTEM. THE GFS FOLLOWED BY THE SREF WAS TOO STRONG WITH THE JET BEHIND THE INCOMING TROUGH. AT MID LEVELS THE MODELS INITIALIZED FINE WITH NO BIG PROBLEMS. THE RUC AND NAM WERE DOING BEST ON THE WIND/PRESSURE FIELD. LOW LEVEL THERMAL GUIDANCE WAS CLOSE TO EACH OTHER AND REALITY. TODAY/TONIGHT...SATELLITE AND UPPER AIR IS SHOWING A VERY DRY AND SUBSIDENT AIR MASS BEHIND THE SYSTEM MOVING ALONG THE CANADIAN AND UNITED STATES BORDER. SURFACE TO 850 MB WINDS ARE HIGHEST AT 12Z AND THEN DECREASE BY 18Z. SOME PLACES COULD REACH 35 KNOT GUSTS. HIGHEST OBSERVED 3 HOUR PRESSURE RISES HAVE OCCURRED MUCH FURTHER NORTH AND ARE NOT ANYTHING OUT OF THE ORDINARY AT THIS TIME. FORECAST PRESSURE GRADIENT AND 3 HOUR PRESSURE RISES ARE HIGHEST EARLY ON AND DECREASE BY 18Z. IN FACT BOTH WOULD INDICATE A QUICK BURST OF THE STRONGEST WINDS RIGHT AFTER THE FROPA AND SUPPORT WINDY CONDITIONS BUT NOT QUITE AT ADVISORY CRITERIA. STRONGEST SUBSIDENCE LOOKS TO BE NEAR THE NORTHERN PORTION OF OUR AREA. THAT AND OTHER GUIDANCE WOULD SUPPORT THE HIGHEST WINDS TO BE IN THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THE AREA AND MAYBE SOME OF THE SOUTHWEST. SO HAVE CONTINUE TO HAVE WINDS JUST UNDER ADVISORY CRITERIA WITH THE NORTH THE CLOSEST. HIGH LEVEL CLOUDS WILL BE THICKEST EARLY DUE TO THE RIGHT REAR QUADRANT OF THE MID AND UPPER JET BEING CLOSE. OVERNIGHT TEMPERATURES HAVE BEEN ALL OVER THE PLACE AS THE PREFRONTAL TROUGH WORKS ITS WAY ACROSS. FRONT LOOKS TO PUSH THROUGH THE AREA EARLY TODAY. NWP IS WARMER THAN IT WAS YESTERDAY AND IN CLOSE AGREEMENT. MADE ONLY SLIGHT ADJUSTMENTS. GUIDANCE THIS MORNING KEEPS THE WINDS STRONGER FOR TONIGHT THAN THE IT DID YESTERDAY DUE TO THE SURFACE RIDGE MOVING IN A LITTLE SLOWER. SO WARMED UP THE MINS. FRIDAY/FRIDAY NIGHT...SHOULD SEE PLENTY OF SUN WITH AREA COMING UNDER THE CONTROL OF RIDGING/SUBSIDENCE/DRYING. SURFACE HIGH MOVES ACROSS DURING THE DAY AND IS NOT TOO FAR EAST OF THE AREA BY LATE IN THE AFTERNOON. NEW GUIDANCE IS CLOSE TO EACH OTHER AND NOT TOO DIFFERENT FROM ONGOING FORECAST SO MADE LITTLE IF ANY CHANGES. WIND FIELD STARTS OUT LIGHT BEFORE WAA AND DOWNSLOPE STARTS. TEMPERATURES COULD FALL RAPIDLY BEFORE THIS GETS GOING. SATURDAY/SATURDAY NIGHT...AGAIN LOOKS LIKE A LOT OF SUN THROUGH THE DAY. WINDS STAY LIGHT THROUGH THE DAY BUT MOSTLY FROM A DOWNSLOPE DIRECTION. NEWER GUIDANCE IS PRETTY CLOSE TO EACH OTHER AND WARMER THAN CURRENT FORECAST. CONSIDERING THE DEEP/INCREASING WESTERLY FLOW ALOFT THIS DOES MAKE SENSE. DRY AIR MASS AND DRY GROUND SHOULD ALLOW A QUICK RESPONSE TO THE EVEN LIGHT DOWNSLOPE WIND. HOWEVER MAY HAVE SOME WAVE CLOUDS DEVELOP EVEN THOUGH MODELS SAY NO. WILL WARM UP MAXES SOME AT THIS TIME. .LONG TERM...(SUNDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY) ISSUED AT 1142 PM MST WED NOV 21 2012 SHORTWAVE TROUGH WILL MOVE FROM THE NORTHERN ROCKIES TO THE CENTRAL PLAINS SUNDAY NIGHT AND MONDAY. MODEL SOLUTIONS CONTINUE TO RETREAT FROM PRECIPITATION CHANCES...AND ITS LOOKING LIKE LITTLE TO NONE IN THE LOCAL AREA. COLDER AIR WILL MOVE IN BEHIND THE COLD FRONT SUNDAY NIGHT BUT COOL DOWN WILL BE SHORT LIVED. UPPER RIDGE WILL QUICKLY REBUILD OVER THE GREAT BASIN EARLY IN THE WEEK THEN ROCKIES BY MID WEEK. TEMPERATURES WILL RETURN TO ABOVE NORMAL BY TUESDAY WITH NO PRECIPITATION CHANCES. && .AVIATION...FOR THE 06Z TAFS THROUGH 06Z THURSDAY NIGHT) ISSUED AT 1026 PM MST WED NOV 21 2012 VFR CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED FOR THE NEXT 24 HOURS. THE ONLY CLOUD COVER WILL BE SOME CIRRUS MOVING THROUGH THIS MORNING FROM THE WEST. OF BIGGER CONCERN FOR AVIATION WILL BE THE WINDS THIS AFTERNOON. A COLD FRONT AND LEE TROUGH WILL PUSH THROUGH DURING THE FORECAST PERIOD. A TIGHT PRESSURE GRADIENT AND STRONGER WINDS ALOFT WILL ALLOW FOR GUSTY NORTH WINDS AT THE SURFACE. WINDS WILL GRADUALLY PICK UP IN THE MORNING HOURS AND WINDS FOR THE AFTERNOON HOURS LOOK TO BE SUSTAINED AT AROUND 25 KTS WITH GUSTS TO 35 SUGGESTED BY GUIDANCE. WINDS WILL WEAKEN BY THIS EVENING. && .GLD WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... KS...NONE. CO...NONE. NE...NONE. && $$ SHORT TERM...BULLER LONG TERM...024 AVIATION...RRH
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NWS DODGE CITY KS
1100 PM CST WED NOV 21 2012 ...UPDATE TO AVIATION FOR 06Z TAFS... .SYNOPSIS... ISSUED AT 1023 PM CST WED NOV 21 2012 THE 22.00Z 250 HPA MAP SHOWED A 100 KT NORTHWESTERLY JET ACROSS THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST ON THE UPSTREAM SIDE OF A LONGWAVE TROF LOCATED ACROSS THE NORTHERN ROCKIES. ANOTHER JET STREAK OF AROUND 110 KT WAS FOUND ON THE BASE OF A VERY AMPLIFIED TROF LOCATED ACROSS FLORIDA AND THE SW ATLANTIC BASIN. A VERY SUBTLE WIND MAX AROUND 50 KT WAS ALSO OBSERVED AT KDDC (DODGE CITY, KS). AT 500 HPA, VERY COLD MID LEVEL TEMPS OF -30 DEG C TO -35 DEG C WERE OBSERVED ACROSS THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST. CLOSER TO HOME, SOME MID LEVEL MOISTURE WAS NOTED ACROSS WEST TEXAS AHEAD OF A WEAK PRESSURE PERTURBATION. DRY AIR ADVECTION WAS NOTED ACROSS THE DEEP SOUTH IN THE WAKE OF THE AFOREMENTIONED UL DISTURBANCE. AT 700 HPA, TEMPS WERE WARM ACROSS THE CENTRAL PLAINS FOR NOVEMBER STANDARDS WITH MANY LOCATIONS REPORTING IN THE 5 DEG C TO 8 DEG C RANGE. THE ATMOSPHERE WAS FAIRLY DRY IN THIS AREA AS WELL. 850 HPA TEMPS ACROSS THE PLAINS WERE WARM WITH A DRY/ADIABATICALLY MIXED PROFILE ACROSS KANSAS. TEMPS AROUND 15 DEG C TO 17 DEG C WERE COMMON FROM WEST TEXAS TO MINNESOTA. AT THE SFC, TWO FRONTAL SYSTEMS WERE NOTED ACROSS THE NORTHERN PRAIRIES. A LEE TROUGH WAS ALSO NOTED ACROSS EASTERN COLORADO. A RIDGE AXIS OF HIGH PRESSURE EXTENDED FROM THE NORTHERN GULF NE TO NEW ENGLAND. && .SHORT TERM...(THIS EVENING THROUGH TOMORROW) ISSUED AT 343 PM CST WED NOV 21 2012 FOR THE TIME PERIOD TONIGHT AND TOMORROW, THE GREATEST CHALLENGE IN THE FORECAST WILL BE LOWS TONIGHT AND HOW MUCH CLOUD COVER AND WIND WILL INFLUENCE OVERNIGHT TEMPERATURES. THE PREVIOUS FORECAST ALREADY HAD A FAIRLY TIGHT GRADIENT IN LOW TEMPERATURES TONIGHT (FROM 33F ACROSS FAR WEST CENTRAL KANSAS TO AROUND 51F ACROSS FAR SOUTH CENTRAL KANSAS). THESE LOOK GOOD FOR THE MOST PART, BUT THE LATEST RAP AND NAM12 MODELS SUGGEST TEMPERATURES WILL NOT GET MUCH BELOW 60F SOUTHEAST OF A GREAT BEND TO ASHLAND LINE, AND GIVEN THE SEMI OPAQUE SKY COVER FROM 300-500MB CLOUD (FROM THE SUBTROPICAL SHORTWAVE TROUGH) AND THE SOUTHWEST WINDS CONTINUING 12 TO 16 KNOTS IN THESE AREAS, REALLY CANNOT ARGUE AGAINST THESE WARM TEMPERATURES TONIGHT. AS A RESULT, I HAVE BUMPED UP MIN TEMPS ABOUT 2 TO 4 DEGREES AND MOVED THE GRADIENT WESTWARD ABOUT 30 MILES OR SO (EFFECTIVELY WARMING UP DODGE CITY LOW QUITE A BIT). THE FORECAST FOR THANKSGIVING DAY WILL BE A LITTLE LESS COMPLICATED AS MID-HIGH LEVEL CLOUD COVER WILL BE MOVING EAST OF THE AREA WITH SURFACE WINDS BECOMING NORTHWESTERLY. WHILE COLD ADVECTION WILL EXIST BEHIND THE FRONT, THE AIRMASS WILL BE MODIFIED BY DOWNSLOPE AND INSOLATION WILL ALSO COUNTER THE COLD ADVECTION. HIGHS WILL STILL BE ABOVE AVERAGE FOR THE DATE WITH TEMPERATURES WARMING INTO THE 60S (LOWER 70S SOUTH CENTRAL KS). WITH THE INITIAL ISALLOBARIC WIND SURGE/PRESSURE RISE WITH THE PASSAGE OF THE FRONT, WIND SPEEDS WILL BE 22 TO 26 KNOTS MUCH LIKE TODAY, BUT THESE SPEEDS SHOULD ONLY OCCUR DURING ABOUT A 3 OR 4 HOUR PERIOD BEFORE WINDS GRADUALLY DECREASE BACK DOWN TO THE 18 TO 22 KT RANGE LATE IN THE DAY. .LONG TERM...(THURSDAY NIGHT THROUGH WEDNESDAY) ISSUED AT 248 PM CST WED NOV 21 2012 BY THE BEGINNING OF THE EXTENDED PERIOD ON THURSDAY NIGHT, A STRONG UPPER LEVEL SHORTWAVE TROUGH WILL BE MOVING OUT OF THE NORTHERN PLAINS INTO THE MIDWESTERN STATES AND GREAT LAKES REGION. A COLD FRONT WILL BE LOCATED OVER SOUTHEAST KANSAS INTO WEST TEXAS. HIGH PRESSURE WILL BE BUILDING INTO WESTERN KANSAS BEHIND THE FRONT THURSDAY NIGHT THROUGH FRIDAY. THE 12Z MODEL TEMPERATURE FORECASTS ARE COMING IN COOLER THAN PREVIOUS RUNS WHICH SEEMS REASONABLE GIVEN THE ONGOING COLD AIR ADVECTION. INTO THIS WEEKEND, FLAT UPPER LEVEL RIDGING WILL SPREAD EAST ACROSS THE WESTERN AND CENTRAL PART OF THE COUNTRY. ANOTHER SHORTWAVE TROUGH WILL MOVE INTO THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST ON SATURDAY BEHIND THE RIDGE AND THIS FEATURE WILL BE DIGGING SOME AS IT MOVES INTO THE CENTRAL HIGH PLAINS BY MONDAY NIGHT. THROUGH THIS WEEKEND THE DRY FORECAST WILL CONTINUE WITH TEMPERATURES WILL MODERATE BACK INTO THE 60S. LEE SIDE TROUGHING WILL DEVELOP ON SATURDAY. THIS WILL DEVELOP INTO A LOW PRESSURE AREA THAT MOVES INTO THE OKLAHOMA AND TEXAS PANHANDLES BY SUNDAY EVENING AS THE NEXT UPPER TROUGH APPROACHES. THIS WILL BRING A SWITCH IN THE SURFACE WINDS BACK AROUND TO THE EAST TO NORTHEAST ON SUNDAY. THIS WAVE WILL MOVE OUT ACROSS THE CENTRAL AND NORTHERN PLAINS MONDAY NIGHT. THERE DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE SUFFICIENT MOISTURE AVAILABLE FOR THIS SYSTEM TO WORK WITH. THE BEST CHANCES FOR MEASURABLE PRECIPITATION WILL BE ALONG THE EASTERN SLOPES OF THE ROCKIES AND OVER EASTERN KANSAS INTO THE MID MISSISSIPPI VALLEY. HIGH TEMPERATURES WILL DROP BACK INTO THE 40S ON MONDAY AND TUESDAY. THE REMAINDER OF THE EXTENDED PERIOD WILL SEE AN UPPER LEVEL RIDGE BUILDING OVER THE CENTRAL PART OF THE COUNTRY. THIS WILL RESULT IN TEMPERATURES MODERATING BACK INTO THE 60S LATER NEXT WEEK. && .AVIATION...(FOR THE 06Z TAFS THROUGH 06Z THURSDAY NIGHT) ISSUED AT 1100 PM CST WED NOV 21 2012 A COLD FRONT WILL TRAVERSE ACROSS THE REGION THIS MORNING. WINDS WILL INCREASE NORTHERLY 20-25 KT THROUGH LATE MORNING INTO THE EARLY AFTERNOON VIA MIXING/MOMENTUM TRANSFER DOWNWARD. WINDS WILL DECREASE 10-15 KT BY DUSK. OTHER THAN SOME MID TO HIGH LEVEL CLOUDS, CIGS WILL REMAIN VFR. && .PRELIMINARY POINT TEMPS/POPS... DDC 52 66 24 53 / 0 0 0 0 GCK 41 64 22 53 / 0 0 0 0 EHA 41 65 23 53 / 0 0 0 0 LBL 47 67 24 55 / 0 0 0 0 HYS 42 63 21 51 / 0 0 0 0 P28 55 72 28 53 / 10 10 0 0 && .DDC WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... NONE. && $$ SYNOPSIS...SUGDEN SHORT TERM...UMSCHEID LONG TERM...GERARD AVIATION...SUGDEN
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS DODGE CITY KS
1023 PM CST WED NOV 21 2012 ...UPDATE TO SYNOPSIS... .SYNOPSIS... ISSUED AT 1023 PM CST WED NOV 21 2012 THE 22.00Z 250 HPA MAP SHOWED A 100 KT NORTHWESTERLY JET ACROSS THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST ON THE UPSTREAM SIDE OF A LONGWAVE TROF LOCATED ACROSS THE NORTHERN ROCKIES. ANOTHER JET STREAK OF AROUND 110 KT WAS FOUND ON THE BASE OF A VERY AMPLIFIED TROF LOCATED ACROSS FLORIDA AND THE SW ATLANTIC BASIN. A VERY SUBTLE WIND MAX AROUND 50 KT WAS ALSO OBSERVED AT KDDC (DODGE CITY, KS). AT 500 HPA, VERY COLD MID LEVEL TEMPS OF -30 DEG C TO -35 DEG C WERE OBSERVED ACROSS THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST. CLOSER TO HOME, SOME MID LEVEL MOISTURE WAS NOTED ACROSS WEST TEXAS AHEAD OF A WEAK PRESSURE PERTURBATION. DRY AIR ADVECTION WAS NOTED ACROSS THE DEEP SOUTH IN THE WAKE OF THE AFOREMENTIONED UL DISTURBANCE. AT 700 HPA, TEMPS WERE WARM ACROSS THE CENTRAL PLAINS FOR NOVEMBER STANDARDS WITH MANY LOCATIONS REPORTING IN THE 5 DEG C TO 8 DEG C RANGE. THE ATMOSPHERE WAS FAIRLY DRY IN THIS AREA AS WELL. 850 HPA TEMPS ACROSS THE PLAINS WERE WARM WITH A DRY/ADIABATICALLY MIXED PROFILE ACROSS KANSAS. TEMPS AROUND 15 DEG C TO 17 DEG C WERE COMMON FROM WEST TEXAS TO MINNESOTA. AT THE SFC, TWO FRONTAL SYSTEMS WERE NOTED ACROSS THE NORTHERN PRAIRIES. A LEE TROUGH WAS ALSO NOTED ACROSS EASTERN COLORADO. A RIDGE AXIS OF HIGH PRESSURE EXTENDED FROM THE NORTHERN GULF NE TO NEW ENGLAND. && .SHORT TERM...(THIS EVENING THROUGH TOMORROW) ISSUED AT 343 PM CST WED NOV 21 2012 FOR THE TIME PERIOD TONIGHT AND TOMORROW, THE GREATEST CHALLENGE IN THE FORECAST WILL BE LOWS TONIGHT AND HOW MUCH CLOUD COVER AND WIND WILL INFLUENCE OVERNIGHT TEMPERATURES. THE PREVIOUS FORECAST ALREADY HAD A FAIRLY TIGHT GRADIENT IN LOW TEMPERATURES TONIGHT (FROM 33F ACROSS FAR WEST CENTRAL KANSAS TO AROUND 51F ACROSS FAR SOUTH CENTRAL KANSAS). THESE LOOK GOOD FOR THE MOST PART, BUT THE LATEST RAP AND NAM12 MODELS SUGGEST TEMPERATURES WILL NOT GET MUCH BELOW 60F SOUTHEAST OF A GREAT BEND TO ASHLAND LINE, AND GIVEN THE SEMI OPAQUE SKY COVER FROM 300-500MB CLOUD (FROM THE SUBTROPICAL SHORTWAVE TROUGH) AND THE SOUTHWEST WINDS CONTINUING 12 TO 16 KNOTS IN THESE AREAS, REALLY CANNOT ARGUE AGAINST THESE WARM TEMPERATURES TONIGHT. AS A RESULT, I HAVE BUMPED UP MIN TEMPS ABOUT 2 TO 4 DEGREES AND MOVED THE GRADIENT WESTWARD ABOUT 30 MILES OR SO (EFFECTIVELY WARMING UP DODGE CITY LOW QUITE A BIT). THE FORECAST FOR THANKSGIVING DAY WILL BE A LITTLE LESS COMPLICATED AS MID-HIGH LEVEL CLOUD COVER WILL BE MOVING EAST OF THE AREA WITH SURFACE WINDS BECOMING NORTHWESTERLY. WHILE COLD ADVECTION WILL EXIST BEHIND THE FRONT, THE AIRMASS WILL BE MODIFIED BY DOWNSLOPE AND INSOLATION WILL ALSO COUNTER THE COLD ADVECTION. HIGHS WILL STILL BE ABOVE AVERAGE FOR THE DATE WITH TEMPERATURES WARMING INTO THE 60S (LOWER 70S SOUTH CENTRAL KS). WITH THE INITIAL ISALLOBARIC WIND SURGE/PRESSURE RISE WITH THE PASSAGE OF THE FRONT, WIND SPEEDS WILL BE 22 TO 26 KNOTS MUCH LIKE TODAY, BUT THESE SPEEDS SHOULD ONLY OCCUR DURING ABOUT A 3 OR 4 HOUR PERIOD BEFORE WINDS GRADUALLY DECREASE BACK DOWN TO THE 18 TO 22 KT RANGE LATE IN THE DAY. .LONG TERM...(THURSDAY NIGHT THROUGH WEDNESDAY) ISSUED AT 248 PM CST WED NOV 21 2012 BY THE BEGINNING OF THE EXTENDED PERIOD ON THURSDAY NIGHT, A STRONG UPPER LEVEL SHORTWAVE TROUGH WILL BE MOVING OUT OF THE NORTHERN PLAINS INTO THE MIDWESTERN STATES AND GREAT LAKES REGION. A COLD FRONT WILL BE LOCATED OVER SOUTHEAST KANSAS INTO WEST TEXAS. HIGH PRESSURE WILL BE BUILDING INTO WESTERN KANSAS BEHIND THE FRONT THURSDAY NIGHT THROUGH FRIDAY. THE 12Z MODEL TEMPERATURE FORECASTS ARE COMING IN COOLER THAN PREVIOUS RUNS WHICH SEEMS REASONABLE GIVEN THE ONGOING COLD AIR ADVECTION. INTO THIS WEEKEND, FLAT UPPER LEVEL RIDGING WILL SPREAD EAST ACROSS THE WESTERN AND CENTRAL PART OF THE COUNTRY. ANOTHER SHORTWAVE TROUGH WILL MOVE INTO THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST ON SATURDAY BEHIND THE RIDGE AND THIS FEATURE WILL BE DIGGING SOME AS IT MOVES INTO THE CENTRAL HIGH PLAINS BY MONDAY NIGHT. THROUGH THIS WEEKEND THE DRY FORECAST WILL CONTINUE WITH TEMPERATURES WILL MODERATE BACK INTO THE 60S. LEE SIDE TROUGHING WILL DEVELOP ON SATURDAY. THIS WILL DEVELOP INTO A LOW PRESSURE AREA THAT MOVES INTO THE OKLAHOMA AND TEXAS PANHANDLES BY SUNDAY EVENING AS THE NEXT UPPER TROUGH APPROACHES. THIS WILL BRING A SWITCH IN THE SURFACE WINDS BACK AROUND TO THE EAST TO NORTHEAST ON SUNDAY. THIS WAVE WILL MOVE OUT ACROSS THE CENTRAL AND NORTHERN PLAINS MONDAY NIGHT. THERE DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE SUFFICIENT MOISTURE AVAILABLE FOR THIS SYSTEM TO WORK WITH. THE BEST CHANCES FOR MEASURABLE PRECIPITATION WILL BE ALONG THE EASTERN SLOPES OF THE ROCKIES AND OVER EASTERN KANSAS INTO THE MID MISSISSIPPI VALLEY. HIGH TEMPERATURES WILL DROP BACK INTO THE 40S ON MONDAY AND TUESDAY. THE REMAINDER OF THE EXTENDED PERIOD WILL SEE AN UPPER LEVEL RIDGE BUILDING OVER THE CENTRAL PART OF THE COUNTRY. THIS WILL RESULT IN TEMPERATURES MODERATING BACK INTO THE 60S LATER NEXT WEEK. && .AVIATION...(FOR THE 00Z TAFS THROUGH 00Z THURSDAY EVENING) ISSUED AT 505 PM CST WED NOV 21 2012 VFR CONDITIONS WILL PREVAIL AT ALL TAF SITES THROUGH EARLY THURSDAY AFTERNOON. AS FOR WINDS, A LEE SIDE TROUGH OF LOW PRESSURE IN EXTREME EASTERN COLORADO WILL BEGIN EDGING EAST INTO WESTERN KANSAS THIS EVENING. AS A RESULT, SOUTHERLY WINDS OF 15 TO 25KT EARLY THIS EVENING WILL BECOME MORE SOUTHWESTERLY WHILE DECREASING 5 TO 15KT OVERNIGHT. A COLD FRONT IS THEN EXPECTED TO PUSH SOUTHEAST ACROSS WESTERN KANSAS EARLY THURSDAY MORNING TURNING WINDS NORTHERLY 25 TO 35KT BY MID DAY THURSDAY. && .PRELIMINARY POINT TEMPS/POPS... DDC 52 66 24 53 / 0 0 0 0 GCK 41 64 22 53 / 0 0 0 0 EHA 41 65 23 53 / 0 0 0 0 LBL 47 67 24 55 / 0 0 0 0 HYS 42 63 21 51 / 0 0 0 0 P28 55 72 28 53 / 10 10 0 0 && .DDC WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... NONE. && $$ SYNOPSIS...SUGDEN SHORT TERM...UMSCHEID LONG TERM...GERARD AVIATION...JJOHNSON
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS MARQUETTE MI
257 AM EST THU NOV 22 2012 .SHORT TERM...(THIS EVENING THROUGH THURSDAY) ISSUED AT 437 PM EST WED NOV 21 2012 12Z RAOBS/LATEST WV IMAGERY AND RUC ANALYSIS SHOW UPR RDG EXTENDING NEWD FM THE SRN PLAINS INTO THE GRT LKS BTWN A TROF ALONG THE E COAST AND ANOTHER ALONG THE W COAST. THE AIRMASS ALOFT IS QUITE WARM AND DRY OVER THE UPR GRT LKS...BUT LO CLDS ENHANCED BY RADIATIONAL COOLING LAST NGT THAT FORMED UNDER SHARP LLVL INVRN SHOWN ON LOCAL 12Z RAOBS ARE PROVING TO BE QUITE RESILIENT OVER THE SCENTRAL AND ERN CWA WITH ADDED MOISTENING OFF LK MI IN SSW FLOW BTWN HI PRES IN THE MID ATLANTIC AND LOWER PRES IN THE PLAINS. THERE IS NO FOG/ST NOTED TO THE W...BUT PLENTY OF HI CLDS ARE STREAMING ENEWD FM THE PLAINS INTO THE UPR LKS IN THE WSW FLOW ALF. A POTENT SHRTWV IS COMING ASHORE IN THE PAC NW. LATE THIS AFTN...LO CLDS PRESENT EARLY THIS AFTN OVER THE SCENTRAL AND E WILL BREAK UP THRU THE AFTN IN THE PRESENCE OF SOME DIURNAL HEATING. THESE CLDS WL BE MOST RESILIENT OVER THE FAR E DOWNWIND OF LK MI AS STLT IMAGERY SHOWS ST DECK EXTENDING ALMOST THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF THE LK. TNGT...ALTHOUGH THE ST SHOULD BE GONE THIS EVNG EXCEPT OVER THE FAR E...SUSPECT THIS LO CLD WL FORM AGAIN TNGT WITH NOCTURNAL COOLING AND PERSISTENT SSW FLOW/LO INVRN SHOWN ON FCST SDNGS. CONFIDENCE IN THIS SCENARIO IS HIER SINCE THE 12Z NAM/LOCAL WRF-ARW SHOW HIER H95-9 SPECIFIC HUMIDITY ADVECTING INTO THE AREA OVERNGT IN THE STRENGTHENING LLVL SSW FLOW. H925 WINDS AS HI AS 30-40KTS BY LATE TNGT SHOULD LIMIT THE POTENTIAL FOR DENSER FOG...BUT STILL ADDED SOME PATCHY FOG OVER THE SCENTRAL AND E AWAY FM MORE PRONOUNCED DOWNSLOPE WARMING OVER THE NW AND NCENTRAL AS MODELS HINT AT A PERIOD OF LIGHTER WINDS THIS EVNG THAT MIGHT AUGMENT A PERIOD OF QUICK COOLING. MIN TEMPS WL REMAIN WELL ABV NORMAL WITH INCRSG WINDS/ QUITE A BIT OF HI CLD...ESPECIALLY IN THE DOWNSLOPE AREAS OVER THE W AND NCENTRAL NEAR LK SUP. THANKSGIVING DAY...WITH DIURNAL HEATING...EXPECT LO CLDS/FOG IN THE MRNG TO BREAK UP BY NOON. BUT WITH PERSISTENT SSW FLOW...THE ST WL MOST LIKELY LINGER LONGER INTO THE AFTN OVER THE E DOWNSTREAM OF LK MI. ATTENTION THEN TURNS TO TIMING/IMPACT OF SHRTWV NOW MOVING INTO THE PAC NW. MODELS SHOW THIS DISTURBANCE MOVING EWD TO OVER MN BY 00Z FRI. ALTHOUGH ASSOCIATED SFC LO PRES IS FCST TO MOVE INTO ONTARIO JUST N OF LK SUP WITH ATTENDANT COLD FNT PROGGED TO REACH CENTRAL UPR MI BY 00Z...DEEP LARGER SCALE FORCING IS FCST TO HANG TO THE W THRU THAT TIME. WITH LINGERING MID LVL DRY AIR...ANY ACCOMPANYING PCPN SHOULD PUSH NO FARTHER THAN WRN LK SUP UNTIL AFT 00Z. OTRW... LOOK FOR ANOTHER DAY OF WELL ABV NORMAL TEMPS UNDER H85 THERMAL RDG UP TO 11C RIGHT AHEAD OF THE FNT. BUT TEMPS OVER THE W SHOULD FALL IN THE AFTN FOLLOWING THE COLD FROPA WITH H85 TEMPS PROGGED TO TUMBLE TOWARD 0C AT IWD BY 00Z FRI. .LONG TERM...(THURSDAY NIGHT THROUGH WEDNESDAY) ISSUED AT 437 PM EST WED NOV 21 2012 MODEL HAVE COME INTO MUCH BETTER OVERALL AGREEMENT RELATING TO THE SYSTEM THAT WILL BRING SNOW TO MUCH OF THE AREA THU NIGHT INTO SAT...WITH MAINLY SMALLER SCALE/TIMING DIFFERENCES THAT ARE NOT OUT OF THE NORM FOR THE TIME FRAME OF THE EVENT. A GENERAL MODEL CONSENSUS WAS USED...WITH MOST FORECAST ALIGNMENT WITH THE 12Z/21 NAM/GFS AND TO A SOMEWHAT LESSER DEGREE THE 00Z/21 ECMWF FOCUSED MAJORITY OF ATTENTION ON THE SYSTEM THU NIGHT INTO SAT GIVEN HIGHER IMPACTS FROM POST THANKSGIVING TRAVEL/ACTIVITIES. AT 00Z FRI...MODELS SHOW THE 500MB SHORTWAVE IN THE BEGINNING STAGES OF BEING CLOSED OFF OVER NW MN WITH A 1000MB SFC LOW OVER CENTRAL LAKE SUPERIOR...AND A SFC COLD FRONT FROM THE HURON MOUNTAINS TO IRON OR DICKINSON COUNTY. 850MB TEMPS WILL BE JUST FALLING BELOW 0C OVER FAR WRN UPPER MI...BUT WILL STILL BY AROUND 6C OVER THE ERN CWA. THE MID LEVEL LOW WILL CONTINUE TO STRENGTHEN AS IT MOVES TO THE CENTRAL CWA BY 12Z FRI /AVG LOCATION AMONG PREFERRED MODELS...THERE WERE MINOR TIMING DIFFERENCES/...WITH HEIGHT FALLS OF 7-10DAM FROM 12 HOURS PREVIOUS. BY 12Z FRI THE BULK OF THE SFC LOW WILL HAVE SHIFTED NE INTO ONTARIO...BUT PREFER THE NAM/GEM/ECMWF SOLUTIONS THAT PIN A 998MB SFC LOW OVER NE LAKE SUPERIOR AS OFTEN HAPPENS DUE TO THE WARM LAKE TEMPS. 850MB TEMPS FALL TO -10C TO -12C OVER WRN LAKE SUPERIOR BY 12Z FRI...AND WILL WELL BELOW 0C OVER THE REST OF THE CWA. THE COMBINATION OF THE DEEPENING SFC LOW...COLD AIR OVER THE WARM LAKE AND SHARP PRESSURE GRADIENT LEAD TO STRONG WINDS. THE STRONGEST WINDS LOOK TO BE OVER THE KEWEENAW AND NEAR LAKE SUPERIOR E OF THE HURON MOUNTAINS...ESPECIALLY ALONG THE SHORELINES OF ALGER AND LUCE COUNTIES. IN THESE AREAS...MODELS SHOW 925MB WINDS IN EXCESS OF 40KTS...SO GUSTS AS HIGH AS 40KTS SEEM APPROPRIATE FOR THE FORECAST IN THESE MORE EXPOSED LOCATIONS FROM THE NW WINDS LATE THU NIGHT AND THROUGH MUCH OF FRI. A SHORT SWATH OF DRY LOW AND MID LEVEL AIR ROTATES THROUGH THE WRN CWA LATE FRI MORNING...WHICH WILL DIMINISH SNOWFALL TO SOME EXTENT. MODELS THEN INDICATE ANOTHER SHORTWAVE PUSHING THROUGH SOMETIME SAT EVENING AS 850MB TEMPS FALL TO -14C OVER MUCH OF LAKE SUPERIOR...WHICH WILL ACT TO ENHANCE SNOWFALL RATES. AFTER THIS SHORTWAVE...SNOWFALL SHOULD GENERALLY SLOWLY DIMINISH IN INTENSITY/COVERAGE UNTIL SFC AND UPPER RIDGING MOVES IN FROM THE W SAT...REACHING IWD BY 18Z SAT AND THE FAR ERN CWA AROUND 00Z SUN. GIVEN HOW QUICKLY TEMPS GET COLD AS THE UPPER LOW IS MOVING OVER...SNOW TO LIQUID RATIOS WILL JUMP UP PRETTY QUICKLY TO AROUND 18 TO 1 RATIOS. THIS WILL INCREASE SNOWFALL ACCUMULATIONS AND WILL ALLOW THE SNOW TO BE BLOW AROUND MORE FROM GUSTY WINDS. EXPECT TWO MAIN BURSTS OF SNOW THAT SHOULD BE ESPECIALLY UNTACTFUL...ONE AS THE UPPER LOW PUSHES IN WITH LAKE ENHANCEMENT ADDING TO SNOW INTENSITY. THIS WILL HAPPEN THU NIGHT INTO EARLY FRI MORNING OVER THE WRN CWA...AND FRI MORNING TO AROUND NOON FRI OVER THE ERN CWA. THE SECOND BURST LOOKS TO BE WITH THE SECOND SHORTWAVE FRI EVENING TO EARLY SAT NIGHT WITH ENHANCEMENT OF THE LES. THE FIRST BURST OF SNOW LOOKS TO BE THE WORST GIVEN THE INCREASED FORCING FROM THE 500MB LOW...WHICH WILL ALSO BE AT THE WORST TIMES GIVEN MUCH INCREASED POST THANKSGIVING TRAVEL/ACTIVITY AS FAR A SOCIETAL IMPACTS GO. THIS IS COMPOUNDED BY THE FACT THAT NO SIGNIFICANT SNOWFALL HAS OCCURRED IN A WHILE...WHICH LOCAL STUDIES SUGGEST LEADS TO A LARGE INCREASE IN TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS ONCE SNOW DOES FALL. AS FAR AS SNOWFALL AMOUNTS GO...HAVE HIGHEST CONFIDENCE IN SNOWFALL AMOUNTS OF PORTIONS OF ALGER...LUCE AND NRN SCHOOLCRAFT COUNTIES WHERE MOISTURE WILL LINGER LONGER AND THE FETCH ACROSS LAKE SUPERIOR WILL BE BETTER AND NW WINDS WILL NOT CHANGE DIRECTIONS MUCH THROUGH THE EVENT. OVER THESE ERN AREAS...THE NAM SHOWS STORM TOTAL QPF /WHICH SHOULD BE ALMOST ALL SNOW/ OF JUST UNDER 0.80 INCHES...WHICH MAY BE A BIT ON THE HIGH SIDE BUT CAN NOT BE RULED OUT. OVERALL...THINK 6-10 INCHES /WITH SOME POTENTIAL FOR UP TO A FOOT/ TOTAL SNOWFALL SEEMS REASONABLE FOR THE ERN AREAS. LOWEST CONFIDENCE IS OVER THE NRN HURON MOUNTAINS IN NW MARQUETTE AND NE BARAGA COUNTIES...AS THIS AREA IS ALWAYS HARD TO FORECAST IN NW WINDS...BUT WOULD THINK 3-5 INCHES STORM TOTAL SNOW IS REASONABLE. THE HIGHER TERRAIN OF WRN UPPER MI FROM IWD TO CMX AND COPPER HARBOR SHOULD SEE 4-8 INCHES STORM TOTAL SNOW /HIGHEST OVER PORTION OF NRN HOUGHTON COUNTY AND WRN ONTONAGON/NRN GOGEBIC COUNTIES/...BUT WITH MORE UNCERTAINTY THAT THE ERN CWA AND MORE HIGHER POSSIBILITIES OF HIGHER OR LOWER AMOUNTS. NCENTRAL PARTS OF THE CWA /GENERALLY IN THE MARQUETTE-NEGAUNEE AREA/ LOOK TO SEE 1-3 INCHES OF SNOW THROUGH THE ENTIRE PERIOD. SCENTRAL PORTIONS OF THE CWA SHOULD SEE LITTLE TO NO SNOW. HEADLINES FOR THIS EVENT ARE SOMEWHAT TRICKY IN THAT TRADITIONAL SNOWFALL AMOUNT BASED CRITERIA WILL NEED TO BE RELAXED GIVEN A VARIETY OF PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED SOCIETAL IMPACTS AND OTHER CONTRIBUTING FACTORS /SUCH AS GUSTY WINDS/. GIVEN HIGHER CONFIDENCE OVER THE ERN CWA /ALGER...LUCE AND NRN SCHOOLCRAFT COUNTIES/ DECIDED TO ISSUE A WINTER STORM WATCH FOR THESE AREAS. ELSEWHERE ALONG THE LAKE SUPERIOR SHORE...ISSUED AN SPS HIGHLIGHTING POOR TRAVEL CONDITIONS SINCE IT IS TOO FAR OUT FOR AN ADVISORY. NEXT SYSTEM OF INTEREST MOVES OVERHEAD ON SAT NIGHT INTO EARLY SUN AS A CLIPPER SYSTEM PUSHES THROUGH. BEST MOISTURE IS CO-LOCATED WITH UPPER SUPPORT IN LEFT EXIT REGION OF UPPER JET OVER NRN PORTIONS OF THE AREA. INCREASED CONSENSUS GUIDANCE TO MID RANGE CHANCE POPS. AT THIS TIME A COUPLE OF INCHES OF SNOW APPEARS POSSIBLE...MAINLY IN THE HIGHER TERRAIN OVER THE NRN CWA. && .AVIATION...(FOR THE 06Z TAFS THROUGH 06Z THURSDAY NIGHT) ISSUED AT 257 AM EST THU NOV 22 2012 AT KSAW...IFR VIS THAT HAS DEVELOPED UNDER RADIATIONAL COOLING WILL LIKELY PERSIST THRU THE NIGHT. IFR CIGS MAY ALSO SET IN AT SOME POINT DURING THE NIGHT. VFR CONDITIONS SHOULD PREVAIL AT KIWD/KCMX OVERNIGHT AS DOWNSLOPE NATURE OF SSW FLOW SHOULD LIMIT THE POTENTIAL FOR LOW CLOUDS/FOG. LLWS IS EXPECTED AS SSW WINDS ABOVE RADIATION INVERSION HAVE INCREASED TO 30KT PER KMQT VAD WIND PROFILE. WINDS SHOULD CONTINUE TO INCREASE A LITTLE MORE DURING THE NIGHT. DAYTIME HEATING/MIXING SHOULD END LLWS/DISSIPATE ANY LOW CLOUDS/FOG BY LATE MORNING. ARRIVAL OF COLD FRONT LATE IN THE DAY WILL LIKELY BRING LOW MVFR CIGS TO KIWD/KCMX AFTER 20Z. RA/SN CHANGING TO SN WILL DEVELOP AT KIWD/KCMX IN THE EVENING AND SPREAD TO KSAW LATE EVENING. A PERIOD OF AT LEAST MDT SNOW/LIFR CONDITIONS IS ANTICIPATED AT KCMX MID TO LATE EVENING AS SECONDARY COLD FRONT BOOSTS LAKE ENHANCEMENT UNDER STRONG CAA. && .MARINE...(FOR THE 4 PM LAKE SUPERIOR FORECAST ISSUANCE) ISSUED AT 437 PM EST WED NOV 21 2012 EXPECT S WINDS UP TO 20 KTS THRU THIS EVENING TO INCREASE UP TO 25 KTS LATE TONIGHT AND THU UNDER TIGHTENING PRES GRADIENT AHEAD OF COLD FRONT ASSOCIATED WITH POWERFUL DISTURBANCE MOVING ACROSS THE NORTHERN CONUS. ONCE THE COLD FRONT MOVES WEST TO EAST THU AFTERNOON AND NIGHT...EXPECT A SHARP WIND SHIFT TO THE NW. AS THE PRES GRADIENT TIGHTENS CONSIDERABLY AND MUCH COLDER AIR MOVES OVER THE UPPER LAKES...EXPECT A HI END GALE EVENT EXCEPT OVER THE FAR W WITH THE COLDER AIR ENHANCING THE MIXING OF STRONGER WINDS ALOFT TO THE LAKE SURFACE. GIVEN THE CONSISTENT FORECAST TIMING AND STRENGTH OF THIS EVENT...OPTED TO UPGRADE GOING GALE WATCHES TO WARNINGS FOR THE LATE THU NIGHT INTO FRI NIGHT PERIOD. SOME STORM FORCE WIND GUSTS WILL ALSO BE POSSIBLE ON FRI...ESPECIALLY OVER THE E HALF OF THE LAKE. THE APPROACH OF A HI PRES RIDGE LATE FRI NIGHT WILL CAUSE THE GALES TO DIMINISH W-E THEN. ANOTHER LO PRES TROF WILL IMPACT THE UPPER GREAT LAKES OVER THE WEEKEND...BUT A WEAKER PRES GRADIENT WILL LIKELY HOLDS WINDS TO NO HIER THAN 25 KTS. && .MQT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... UPPER MICHIGAN... WINTER STORM WATCH FROM LATE TONIGHT THROUGH LATE FRIDAY NIGHT FOR MIZ006-007-085. LAKE SUPERIOR... GALE WARNING FROM 1 AM FRIDAY TO 1 AM EST SATURDAY FOR LSZ264>267. GALE WARNING FROM 1 AM TO 7 PM EST FRIDAY FOR LSZ243>245-248>251- 263. LAKE MICHIGAN... NONE. && $$ SHORT TERM...KC LONG TERM...TITUS AVIATION...ROLFSON MARINE...KC
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NWS BINGHAMTON NY
433 AM EST THU NOV 22 2012 .SYNOPSIS... HIGH PRESSURE WILL BRING ANOTHER MILD AND SUNNY DAY TO CENTRAL NEW YORK AND NORTHEAST PENNSYLVANIA. A COLD FRONT WILL PASS THE REGION LATE FRIDAY AFTERNOON AND EVENING WITH SHOWERS. COLD AIR BEHIND THIS FRONT WILL ALLOW LAKE EFFECT SNOWS TO DEVELOP OVER PORTIONS OF CENTRAL NEW YORK LATE FRIDAY NIGHT...WHICH WILL PERSIST INTO SATURDAY NIGHT. && .NEAR TERM /THROUGH TONIGHT/... SFC HI PRES RDG XTNDG FROM NEW ENGLAND INTO THE MID ATLC STATES WILL BRING ANOTHER VERY NICE DAY TO THE FCST AREA...WITH MOSTLY SUNNY SKIES AND TEMPS WELL ABV NORMAL. GIVEN FCST 925 TEMPS OF +8 IT LOOKS LIKE WE`LL SEE MAXES FLIRTING WITH 60 IF NOT THE LOWER 60S ACRS THE CNTRL SRN TIER AND FINGER LAKES...M/U 50S ELSEWHERE. FAIR WX CONTNIUE TNGT WITH SRLY FLOW INCRSNG. && .SHORT TERM /FRIDAY THROUGH SATURDAY NIGHT/... WE`LL SEE SOME SUNSHINE AHEAD OF THE FNT ON FRI AND IT APPEARS WE`LL HAVE MAXES WELL INTO THE 50S ONCE AGAIN. CDFNT WILL PASS LATE FRI AFTN/FRI EVNG WITH A BAND OF -SHRA. COLDER AIR WORKS IN BEHIND THE FNT FRI NGT INTO SAT. ATTM IT APPEARS THAT FLOW WILL REMAIN WSW TIL ARND 06Z WITH FLOW BCMG MORE NWLY BY 12Z SAT. THE NW FLOW PERSISTS INTO SAT NGT. CYCLONIC FLOW ALOFT...GOOD LOW LVL INSTAB...DENDRITIC SNOW GROWTH AND FAIRLY HI INVERSION LVL SHOWN IN IN THE PROFILES...WITH SOME HINT OF PSBL HURON BAY CONNECTION TO ONTARIO ACTIVITY ON SAT. HOWEVER...SOME SUGGESTION THAT THE SYNOPTIC AIR MASS MAY BE ON THE DRY SIDE (EURO SHOWS TD`S DROPPING INTO THE L/M TEENS DURING THIS TIME FRAME). IN ANY EVENT...POTNL APPEARS TO BE THERE FOR ACCUMULATIONS....PRBLY IN THE ADVISORY RNG...SPCLY ACRS THE FAVORED TRRN IN 300-320 FLOW SAT INTO SAT NGT. WILL CONTINUE TO MENTION IN THE HWO. && .LONG TERM /SUNDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY/... 345 AM UPDATE... FORECAST ONLY ADJUSTED SLIGHTLY AS NEEDED FOR COLLABORATION PURPOSES AND TO ACCOUNT FOR LATEST MODEL TRENDS. THE GENERAL IDEA REMAINS THE SAME. 850MB RIDGE NEVER REALLY REACHES THE AREA...IT ACTUALLY FLATTENS TO OBLIVION IN RESPONSE TO PASSING WAVE ON SUNDAY. WAVE EVENTUALLY YIELDS WARM AIR ADVECTION ALOFT...BUT 850MB TEMPERATURES REMAIN COLD ENOUGH FOR AT LEAST A MARGINAL CONTINUED LAKE RESPONSE. WARM FRONT MAY STRUGGLE TO FILL THE DRY LAYER BETWEEN HIGH LEVEL MOISTURE ASSOCIATED WITH WARM FRONT ALOFT...AND LAKE MOISTURE IN THE LOWER LEVELS. REGARDLESS THOUGH...LAKE MOISTURE BY ITSELF MAY BE ENOUGH FOR AT LEAST SCATTERED SNOW SHOWERS TO CONTINUE INTO A WAYS INTO SUNDAY FOR CENTRAL NY WHILE SHIFTING NORTHWARD /BACKING WIND/. MODELS CONTINUE THEIR CONFUSION FOR HOW TO HANDLE LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM MON NIGHT THROUGH TUE NIGHT PERIOD. ECMWF KEEPS US COLDER YET IS SO FAR SOUTH WITH TRACK OF LOW /WHICH IS ALSO WEAKER/...THAT DEPICTED PRECIPITATION SHIELD DOES NOT EVEN MAKE IT INTO OUR AREA DUE TO STRENGTH OF SURFACE HIGH OVER EASTERN CANADA. MEANWHILE GFS IS BETTER PHASED AND AMPLIFIED...AND THUS DEVELOPS STRONGER SURFACE LOW THAT TRACKS UP OHIO VALLEY AND THROUGH THE REGION. SOME WARMER AIR GETS INVOLVED IN THE GFS SOLUTION...WHICH MAKES PRECIPITATION TYPE COMPLICATED YET EVENTUALLY TRANSITIONING TO ALL SNOW SHOWERS IN THE WAKE OF THE POTENTIAL SYSTEM. WITH MUCH UNCERTAINTY...KEEPING POPS ONLY IN CHANCE RANGE SEEMS BEST AT THIS TIME. && .AVIATION /09Z THURSDAY THROUGH MONDAY/... 06Z UPDATE... VFR FOR ENTIRE TAF PERIOD...EXCEPT FOR QUESTION OF EARLY MORNING VALLEY FOG DEVELOPMENT IN KELM...AND SOME MVFR VIS FOR KITH. GREAT RADIATIONAL COOLING SET UP AND SHARP INVERSION...SUPPORTIVE OF KELM VALLEY FOG...IS COMPETING WITH VERY ATMOSPHERE /AFTER YET ANOTHER DAYTIME OF NO PRECIP AND LOW HUMIDITY LEVELS/. RAP MODEL SOUNDING OVERALL SEEMS TILTED IN FAVOR OF THE DRY AIR MASS...WITH THE MORE DEGRADED CONDITIONS STAYING TO OUR NORTH AND WEST /AS IS ALREADY OCCURRING FOR MANY TERMINALS ON THE ONTARIO PENINSULA/...WHERE HIGHER DEWPOINTS WERE ABLE TO ADVECT IN EARLIER. I HAVE TO RESPECT THE STILL FAIR SET UP FOR KELM...AND INCLUDED TEMPO IFR 11Z-13Z...BUT OTHERWISE HELD THE LINE AT MVFR VIS EARLY THIS MORNING. LIGHT EASTERLY FLOW WILL ALSO YIELD SOME MVFR VIS FOR A TIME EARLY THIS MORNING. FOR KRME...WILL HAVE TO WATCH FOR POSSIBLE MVFR LIGHT FOG BUT NOT IN TAF BECAUSE MOST LIKELY SCENARIO IS VFR. OUTLOOK... FRI...MVFR POSSIBLE ALONG AND BEHIND SHOWERY COLD FRONT AFTN/EVE. FRI NGT...MVFR CIGS. LATE IFR VIS POSS KSYR-KRME FROM LAKE -SHSN. SAT...MVRF/BRIEF IFR FROM LAKE -SHSN...MAINLY CNY TERMINALS. SUN...RESTRICTIONS PSBL IN SCT SHRA/SHSN. MON...MAINLY VFR. && .BGM WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... PA...NONE. NY...NONE. && $$ LONG TERM...MDP/PVN AVIATION...MDP
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NWS BINGHAMTON NY
410 AM EST THU NOV 22 2012 .SYNOPSIS... WARM ABOVE AVERAGE TEMPERATURES WILL PREVAIL ACROSS THE REGION ON THANKSGIVING DAY WITH MANY LOCATIONS EASILY WARMING INTO THE MIDDLE TO UPPER 50S FOR DAYTIME HIGHS. ABOVE NORMAL TEMPERATURES WILL QUICKLY COME TO AN END BY FRIDAY AS A STRONG COLD FRONT SWINGS THROUGH THE REGION. COLD AIR WILL RAPIDLY OVERSPREAD THE REGION FRIDAY NIGHT AND SATURDAY WITH REDEVELOPING LAKE EFFECT SNOWS EXPECTED OVER THE UPCOMING WEEKEND. && .NEAR TERM /UNTIL 6 PM THIS EVENING/... 1030 PM UPDATE...CURRENT FORECAST REMAINS IN GOOD SHAPE, JUST LOWERED OVERNIGHT LOWS BY 2-4 DEGREES AS WEAK BOUNDARY LAYER FLOW WILL PERSIST UNTIL DAYBREAK EVEN ALONG THE LAKE PLAIN. WITH DEW POINTS CONTINUING TO FALL IN TANDEM WITH SFC TEMPS, DENSE FOG FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED. 530 PM UPDATE...CLEAR SKIES AND LIGHT WINDS HAVE ALLOWED TEMPS TO FALL QUICKLY LATE THIS AFTERNOON. AT PENN YAN AND ELMIRA TEMPS FELL 10 AND 13 DEGREES RESPECTIVELY DURING THE PAST HOUR. ADJUSTED TEMP GRIDS TO REFLECT THIS OTHERWISE FORECAST IN GOOD SHAPE WITH NO OTHER CHANGES. PREVIOUS DISC... VISIBLE SATELLITE IMAGERY SHOWING MOSTLY CLEAR SKIES ACROSS THE REGION THIS AFTERNOON AS SFC RIDGING ASSOCIATED WITH CANADIAN MARITIMES HIGH PRESSURE CONTINUES TO EXTEND SOUTHWEST OVER OUR AREA. WITH ABUNDANT SUNSHINE PREVAILING OVERHEAD...TEMPS HAVE WARMED INTO THE LOWER 50S ACROSS MUCH OF THE AREA WHICH IS ANYWHERE BETWEEN 5-10 DEGREES ABOVE NORMAL. WITH A DRY AIRMASS IN PLACE...TEMPS WILL FALL OFF QUICKLY THIS EVENING WITH OVERNIGHT LOWS EXPECTED TO REACH THE LOWER TO MIDDLE 30S. THE ONLY CONCERN WITH THE GOING FCST OVERNIGHT WILL BE POSSIBLE FOG FORMATION TOWARDS MORNING. UPSTREAM OBSERVATIONS THIS MORNING SHOWED AN EXPANSIVE AREA OF FOG ACROSS THE UPPER MIDWEST WHERE VISIBILITIES WERE NEAR ZERO ACROSS THE GREATER CHICAGO AREA FOR HRS. THIS MOIST LOW-LEVEL AIRMASS WILL ADVANCE EAST OVERNIGHT WHERE IT WILL ENCOUNTER MORE AND MORE DRY AIR WITH FURTHER EASTWARD PROGRESS. FOR NOW...STATISTICAL GUIDANCE MAKING NO SUGGESTION OF ANY FOG FORMATION ACROSS OUR AREA HOWEVER EVENING SHIFT WILL HAVE TO MONITOR TRENDS ACCORDINGLY. UNSEASONABLY WARM TEMPS TO CONTINUE RIGHT THROUGH THANKSGIVING DAY WHERE 925-MB THERMAL RIDGING CHARACTERIZED BY TEMPS APPROACHING 9C WILL SUPPORT AFTERNOON HIGH TEMPS REACHING THE MIDDLE TO UPPER 50S ACROSS MANY AREAS. THAT SAID...HAVE ELECTED TO INCREASE TEMPS A FEW DEGREES WITH UPPER 50S NOW BEING FORECAST ACROSS THE LAKE PLAIN WHERE DOWNSLOPE COMPRESSIONAL WARMING MAY ALLOW TEMPS TO APPROACH 60. FROM A CLIMATOLOGICAL STANDPOINT...IF SYR WERE TO HIT 60 ON THANKSGIVING DAY...IT WILL BE THE FIRST TIME SINCE 2004 WHEN THE MERCURY CLIMBED TO A BALMY 63 DEGREES. DRY CONDITIONS TO CONTINUE RIGHT THROUGH THANKSGIVING NIGHT WITH OVERNIGHT LOWS EXPECTED TO FALL INTO THE MIDDLE TO UPPER 30S. && .SHORT TERM /6 PM THIS EVENING THROUGH SATURDAY/... BIG CHANGES ON THE WAY BEGINNING FRI AS A WELL ADVERTISED COLD FRONT SWINGS THROUGH THE AREA. PRECIP ALONG AND AHEAD OF THE FRONT WILL BEGIN WORKING THROUGH THE WESTERN ZONES DURING THE LATE MORNING BEFORE CLEARING THE ENTIRE CWA BY EARLY EVENING. WITH THE FRONT MOVING THROUGH RAPIDLY...EXPECT PRECIP TOTALS TO GENERALLY RANGE BELOW TWO TENTHS OF AN INCH. FOR AREAS MAINLY ALONG AND WEST OF I-81...TEMPS WILL FALL RAPIDLY THROUGH THE MID/LATE AFTERNOON AS STRONG COLD AIR ADVECTION OVERSPREADS THE REGION IN THE FRONT/S WAKE. BIG STORY HOWEVER WILL BE THE RAPID COOL DOWN EXPECTED FOLLOWING FROPA AND THE REDEVELOPMENT OF LAKE EFFECT SNOW BEGINNING EARLY SAT MORNING. INITIAL WIND DIRECTION FOLLOWING FROPA WILL FOLLOW A WESTERLY TRAJECTORY WHICH WILL FAVOR THE SOUTHERN TUG HILL THROUGH ROUGHLY 12Z ON SAT. FOLLOWING THIS...BOTH NAM AND GFS FCST MODELS SHOW A SFC TROUGH DROPPING SOUTH IN CYCLONIC FLOW WHICH WILL ALLOW WINDS TO SHIFT AROUND TO THE NORTHWEST THROUGH THE MORNING. AS THIS OCCURS...850-MB TEMPS WILL CONTINUE TO COOL WITH VALUES REACHING NEAR -13C BY 00Z SUN. INSPECTION OF SEVERAL GFS AND NAM BUFKIT SOUNDINGS REVEALS AN INCREASINGLY FAVORABLE ENVIRONMENT FOR LAKE EFFECT SNOWS THROUGH THE DAY ON SAT WITH GOOD SATURATION THROUGH THE FAVORABLE DENDRITIC SNOW GROWTH REGION. THAT SAID...HAVE DRAWN HIGHEST POPS FROM SOUTHERN ONEIDA COUNTY WEST THROUGH THE CENTRAL FINGER LAKES TO INCLUDE THE ITHACA AND SYRACUSE METRO AREAS. FROM THIS VANTAGE POINT...SEVERAL INCHES OF FRESH LAKE EFFECT SNOWFALL WILL BE POSSIBLE AS TEMPS STRUGGLE TO REACH THE MID 30S FOR DAYTIME HIGHS. FOR NOW...IT LOOKS LIKE LAKE SNOWS WILL CONTINUE RIGHT THROUGH SAT NGT WHICH WILL OBVIOUSLY JUST ADD TO SNOW TOTALS. WOULD NOT BE SURPRISED IF ADVISORIES EVENTUALLY GET POSTED HOWEVER ITS MUCH TO EARLY FOR THIS NOW. IN ANY EVENT...WILL HIGHLIGHT SNOW ACCUMULATION POTENTIAL IN THE HWO TO INCREASE AWARENESS FOR HOLIDAY WEEKEND TRAVELERS. && .LONG TERM /SATURDAY NIGHT THROUGH WEDNESDAY/... 345 AM UPDATE... FORECAST ONLY ADJUSTED SLIGHTLY AS NEEDED FOR COLLABORATION PURPOSES AND TO ACCOUNT FOR LATEST MODEL TRENDS. THE GENERAL IDEA REMAINS THE SAME. 850MB RIDGE NEVER REALLY REACHES THE AREA...IT ACTUALLY FLATTENS TO OBLIVION IN RESPONSE TO PASSING WAVE ON SUNDAY. WAVE EVENTUALLY YIELDS WARM AIR ADVECTION ALOFT...BUT 850MB TEMPERATURES REMAIN COLD ENOUGH FOR AT LEAST A MARGINAL CONTINUED LAKE RESPONSE. WARM FRONT MAY STRUGGLE TO FILL THE DRY LAYER BETWEEN HIGH LEVEL MOISTURE ASSOCIATED WITH WARM FRONT ALOFT...AND LAKE MOISTURE IN THE LOWER LEVELS. REGARDLESS THOUGH...LAKE MOISTURE BY ITSELF MAY BE ENOUGH FOR AT LEAST SCATTERED SNOW SHOWERS TO CONTINUE INTO A WAYS INTO SUNDAY FOR CENTRAL NY WHILE SHIFTING NORTHWARD /BACKING WIND/. MODELS CONTINUE THEIR CONFUSION FOR HOW TO HANDLE LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM MON NIGHT THROUGH TUE NIGHT PERIOD. ECMWF KEEPS US COLDER YET IS SO FAR SOUTH WITH TRACK OF LOW /WHICH IS ALSO WEAKER/...THAT DEPICTED PRECIPITATION SHIELD DOES NOT EVEN MAKE IT INTO OUR AREA DUE TO STRENGTH OF SURFACE HIGH OVER EASTERN CANADA. MEANWHILE GFS IS BETTER PHASED AND AMPLIFIED...AND THUS DEVELOPS STRONGER SURFACE LOW THAT TRACKS UP OHIO VALLEY AND THROUGH THE REGION. SOME WARMER AIR GETS INVOLVED IN THE GFS SOLUTION...WHICH MAKES PRECIPITATION TYPE COMPLICATED YET EVENTUALLY TRANSITIONING TO ALL SNOW SHOWERS IN THE WAKE OF THE POTENTIAL SYSTEM. WITH MUCH UNCERTAINTY...KEEPING POPS ONLY IN CHANCE RANGE SEEMS BEST AT THIS TIME. && .AVIATION /09Z THURSDAY THROUGH MONDAY/... 06Z UPDATE... VFR FOR ENTIRE TAF PERIOD...EXCEPT FOR QUESTION OF EARLY MORNING VALLEY FOG DEVELOPMENT IN KELM...AND SOME MVFR VIS FOR KITH. GREAT RADIATIONAL COOLING SET UP AND SHARP INVERSION...SUPPORTIVE OF KELM VALLEY FOG...IS COMPETING WITH VERY ATMOSPHERE /AFTER YET ANOTHER DAYTIME OF NO PRECIP AND LOW HUMIDITY LEVELS/. RAP MODEL SOUNDING OVERALL SEEMS TILTED IN FAVOR OF THE DRY AIR MASS...WITH THE MORE DEGRADED CONDITIONS STAYING TO OUR NORTH AND WEST /AS IS ALREADY OCCURRING FOR MANY TERMINALS ON THE ONTARIO PENINSULA/...WHERE HIGHER DEWPOINTS WERE ABLE TO ADVECT IN EARLIER. I HAVE TO RESPECT THE STILL FAIR SET UP FOR KELM...AND INCLUDED TEMPO IFR 11Z-13Z...BUT OTHERWISE HELD THE LINE AT MVFR VIS EARLY THIS MORNING. LIGHT EASTERLY FLOW WILL ALSO YIELD SOME MVFR VIS FOR A TIME EARLY THIS MORNING. FOR KRME...WILL HAVE TO WATCH FOR POSSIBLE MVFR LIGHT FOG BUT NOT IN TAF BECAUSE MOST LIKELY SCENARIO IS VFR. OUTLOOK... FRI...MVFR POSSIBLE ALONG AND BEHIND SHOWERY COLD FRONT AFTN/EVE. FRI NGT...MVFR CIGS. LATE IFR VIS POSS KSYR-KRME FROM LAKE -SHSN. SAT...MVRF/BRIEF IFR FROM LAKE -SHSN...MAINLY CNY TERMINALS. SUN...RESTRICTIONS PSBL IN SCT SHRA/SHSN. MON...MAINLY VFR. && .BGM WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... PA...NONE. NY...NONE. && $$ SYNOPSIS...CMG NEAR TERM...CMG/RRM SHORT TERM...CMG LONG TERM...MDP AVIATION...MDP
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS BINGHAMTON NY
105 AM EST THU NOV 22 2012 .SYNOPSIS... WARM ABOVE AVERAGE TEMPERATURES WILL PREVAIL ACROSS THE REGION ON THANKSGIVING DAY WITH MANY LOCATIONS EASILY WARMING INTO THE MIDDLE TO UPPER 50S FOR DAYTIME HIGHS. ABOVE NORMAL TEMPERATURES WILL QUICKLY COME TO AN END BY FRIDAY AS A STRONG COLD FRONT SWINGS THROUGH THE REGION. COLD AIR WILL RAPIDLY OVERSPREAD THE REGION FRIDAY NIGHT AND SATURDAY WITH REDEVELOPING LAKE EFFECT SNOWS EXPECTED OVER THE UPCOMING WEEKEND. && .NEAR TERM /THROUGH TODAY/... 1030 PM UPDATE...CURRENT FORECAST REMAINS IN GOOD SHAPE, JUST LOWERED OVERNIGHT LOWS BY 2-4 DEGREES AS WEAK BOUNDARY LAYER FLOW WILL PERSIST UNTIL DAYBREAK EVEN ALONG THE LAKE PLAIN. WITH DEW POINTS CONTINUING TO FALL IN TANDEM WITH SFC TEMPS, DENSE FOG FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED. 530 PM UPDATE...CLEAR SKIES AND LIGHT WINDS HAVE ALLOWED TEMPS TO FALL QUICKLY LATE THIS AFTERNOON. AT PENN YAN AND ELMIRA TEMPS FELL 10 AND 13 DEGREES RESPECTIVELY DURING THE PAST HOUR. ADJUSTED TEMP GRIDS TO REFLECT THIS OTHERWISE FORECAST IN GOOD SHAPE WITH NO OTHER CHANGES. PREVIOUS DISC... VISIBLE SATELLITE IMAGERY SHOWING MOSTLY CLEAR SKIES ACROSS THE REGION THIS AFTERNOON AS SFC RIDGING ASSOCIATED WITH CANADIAN MARITIMES HIGH PRESSURE CONTINUES TO EXTEND SOUTHWEST OVER OUR AREA. WITH ABUNDANT SUNSHINE PREVAILING OVERHEAD...TEMPS HAVE WARMED INTO THE LOWER 50S ACROSS MUCH OF THE AREA WHICH IS ANYWHERE BETWEEN 5-10 DEGREES ABOVE NORMAL. WITH A DRY AIRMASS IN PLACE...TEMPS WILL FALL OFF QUICKLY THIS EVENING WITH OVERNIGHT LOWS EXPECTED TO REACH THE LOWER TO MIDDLE 30S. THE ONLY CONCERN WITH THE GOING FCST OVERNIGHT WILL BE POSSIBLE FOG FORMATION TOWARDS MORNING. UPSTREAM OBSERVATIONS THIS MORNING SHOWED AN EXPANSIVE AREA OF FOG ACROSS THE UPPER MIDWEST WHERE VISIBILITIES WERE NEAR ZERO ACROSS THE GREATER CHICAGO AREA FOR HRS. THIS MOIST LOW-LEVEL AIRMASS WILL ADVANCE EAST OVERNIGHT WHERE IT WILL ENCOUNTER MORE AND MORE DRY AIR WITH FURTHER EASTWARD PROGRESS. FOR NOW...STATISTICAL GUIDANCE MAKING NO SUGGESTION OF ANY FOG FORMATION ACROSS OUR AREA HOWEVER EVENING SHIFT WILL HAVE TO MONITOR TRENDS ACCORDINGLY. UNSEASONABLY WARM TEMPS TO CONTINUE RIGHT THROUGH THANKSGIVING DAY WHERE 925-MB THERMAL RIDGING CHARACTERIZED BY TEMPS APPROACHING 9C WILL SUPPORT AFTERNOON HIGH TEMPS REACHING THE MIDDLE TO UPPER 50S ACROSS MANY AREAS. THAT SAID...HAVE ELECTED TO INCREASE TEMPS A FEW DEGREES WITH UPPER 50S NOW BEING FORECAST ACROSS THE LAKE PLAIN WHERE DOWNSLOPE COMPRESSIONAL WARMING MAY ALLOW TEMPS TO APPROACH 60. FROM A CLIMATOLOGICAL STANDPOINT...IF SYR WERE TO HIT 60 ON THANKSGIVING DAY...IT WILL BE THE FIRST TIME SINCE 2004 WHEN THE MERCURY CLIMBED TO A BALMY 63 DEGREES. DRY CONDITIONS TO CONTINUE RIGHT THROUGH THANKSGIVING NIGHT WITH OVERNIGHT LOWS EXPECTED TO FALL INTO THE MIDDLE TO UPPER 30S. && .SHORT TERM /TONIGHT THROUGH SATURDAY/... BIG CHANGES ON THE WAY BEGINNING FRI AS A WELL ADVERTISED COLD FRONT SWINGS THROUGH THE AREA. PRECIP ALONG AND AHEAD OF THE FRONT WILL BEGIN WORKING THROUGH THE WESTERN ZONES DURING THE LATE MORNING BEFORE CLEARING THE ENTIRE CWA BY EARLY EVENING. WITH THE FRONT MOVING THROUGH RAPIDLY...EXPECT PRECIP TOTALS TO GENERALLY RANGE BELOW TWO TENTHS OF AN INCH. FOR AREAS MAINLY ALONG AND WEST OF I-81...TEMPS WILL FALL RAPIDLY THROUGH THE MID/LATE AFTERNOON AS STRONG COLD AIR ADVECTION OVERSPREADS THE REGION IN THE FRONT/S WAKE. BIG STORY HOWEVER WILL BE THE RAPID COOL DOWN EXPECTED FOLLOWING FROPA AND THE REDEVELOPMENT OF LAKE EFFECT SNOW BEGINNING EARLY SAT MORNING. INITIAL WIND DIRECTION FOLLOWING FROPA WILL FOLLOW A WESTERLY TRAJECTORY WHICH WILL FAVOR THE SOUTHERN TUG HILL THROUGH ROUGHLY 12Z ON SAT. FOLLOWING THIS...BOTH NAM AND GFS FCST MODELS SHOW A SFC TROUGH DROPPING SOUTH IN CYCLONIC FLOW WHICH WILL ALLOW WINDS TO SHIFT AROUND TO THE NORTHWEST THROUGH THE MORNING. AS THIS OCCURS...850-MB TEMPS WILL CONTINUE TO COOL WITH VALUES REACHING NEAR -13C BY 00Z SUN. INSPECTION OF SEVERAL GFS AND NAM BUFKIT SOUNDINGS REVEALS AN INCREASINGLY FAVORABLE ENVIRONMENT FOR LAKE EFFECT SNOWS THROUGH THE DAY ON SAT WITH GOOD SATURATION THROUGH THE FAVORABLE DENDRITIC SNOW GROWTH REGION. THAT SAID...HAVE DRAWN HIGHEST POPS FROM SOUTHERN ONEIDA COUNTY WEST THROUGH THE CENTRAL FINGER LAKES TO INCLUDE THE ITHACA AND SYRACUSE METRO AREAS. FROM THIS VANTAGE POINT...SEVERAL INCHES OF FRESH LAKE EFFECT SNOWFALL WILL BE POSSIBLE AS TEMPS STRUGGLE TO REACH THE MID 30S FOR DAYTIME HIGHS. FOR NOW...IT LOOKS LIKE LAKE SNOWS WILL CONTINUE RIGHT THROUGH SAT NGT WHICH WILL OBVIOUSLY JUST ADD TO SNOW TOTALS. WOULD NOT BE SURPRISED IF ADVISORIES EVENTUALLY GET POSTED HOWEVER ITS MUCH TO EARLY FOR THIS NOW. IN ANY EVENT...WILL HIGHLIGHT SNOW ACCUMULATION POTENTIAL IN THE HWO TO INCREASE AWARENESS FOR HOLIDAY WEEKEND TRAVELERS. && .LONG TERM /SATURDAY NIGHT THROUGH WEDNESDAY/... 130 PM UPDATE...CLD AIR SETS IN BHND FRONTAL PASSAGE LATE IN THE WEEK, CONTINUING THRU THE WEEKEND. H8 TEMPS DROP DOWN TO BTWN -10C TO -12C LVG MODERATE LK INSTABILITY IN ITS WAKE. FLOW ALIGNS FM 310-320 DEGREES WITH FINGER LKS AREA UNDER THE GUN FOR CONTD LK EFFECT SNOW THRU SUN AFTN. APPEARS AS THO WINDS SHIFT ARND TO THE SOUTHWEST, MVG SNOW SHOWERS NORTH OF THE CWA SUN NGT. MED RANGE MODELS AGREE ON S/WV DROPPING INTO THE INTERMOUNTAIN STATES EARLY NEXT WEEK. THIS WL INDUCE SFC LOW DVLPMNT BY 00Z TUE IN VICINITY OF MID-MS VLY. 00Z EURO IS QUICKER TO MV THIS SFC LOW NORTH TWD THE AREA BY ABOUT 12 HRS. EURO BRINGS IT UP TO THE WEST OF OUR AREA WITH RAIN OR SNOW EXPECTED DRG THE DAY ON TUESDAY. 12Z GFS SUPPRESSES THE LOW FURTHER TO THE SOUTH, THOUGH H8 TEMPS RISE ABV 0C ACRS PORTIONS OF OUR AREA. THUS HV GONE WITH CHC POPS THRU 12Z WED WITH A MIX OF RAIN OR SNOW, TOO EARLY TO SAY AT THIS POINT. TEMPS WL BE MORE TYPICAL OF VALUES EXPECTED FOR LATE NOVEMBER. HIGHS IN THE U30S AND LOWS IN THE MID-20S. && .AVIATION /06Z THURSDAY THROUGH MONDAY/... 06Z UPDATE... VFR FOR ENTIRE TAF PERIOD...EXCEPT FOR QUESTION OF EARLY MORNING VALLEY FOG DEVELOPMENT IN KELM...AND SOME MVFR VIS FOR KITH. GREAT RADIATIONAL COOLING SET UP AND SHARP INVERSION...SUPPORTIVE OF KELM VALLEY FOG...IS COMPETING WITH VERY ATMOSPHERE /AFTER YET ANOTHER DAYTIME OF NO PRECIP AND LOW HUMIDITY LEVELS/. RAP MODEL SOUNDING OVERALL SEEMS TILTED IN FAVOR OF THE DRY AIR MASS...WITH THE MORE DEGRADED CONDITIONS STAYING TO OUR NORTH AND WEST /AS IS ALREADY OCCURRING FOR MANY TERMINALS ON THE ONTARIO PENINSULA/...WHERE HIGHER DEWPOINTS WERE ABLE TO ADVECT IN EARLIER. I HAVE TO RESPECT THE STILL FAIR SET UP FOR KELM...AND INCLUDED TEMPO IFR 11Z-13Z...BUT OTHERWISE HELD THE LINE AT MVFR VIS EARLY THIS MORNING. LIGHT EASTERLY FLOW WILL ALSO YIELD SOME MVFR VIS FOR A TIME EARLY THIS MORNING. FOR KRME...WILL HAVE TO WATCH FOR POSSIBLE MVFR LIGHT FOG BUT NOT IN TAF BECAUSE MOST LIKELY SCENARIO IS VFR. EXTENDED OUTLOOK... FRI...MVFR POSSIBLE ALONG AND BEHIND SHOWERY COLD FRONT AFTN/EVE. FRI NGT...MVFR CIGS. LATE IFR VIS POSS KSYR-KRME FROM LAKE -SHSN. SAT...MVRF/BRIEF IFR FROM LAKE -SHSN...MAINLY CNY TERMINALS. SUN...RESTRICTIONS PSBL IN SCT SHRA/SHSN. MON...MAINLY VFR. && .BGM WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... PA...NONE. NY...NONE. && $$ SYNOPSIS...CMG NEAR TERM...CMG/RRM SHORT TERM...CMG LONG TERM...PVN AVIATION...MDP
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS WILMINGTON OH
1241 AM EST THU NOV 22 2012 .SYNOPSIS... HIGH PRESSURE WILL KEEP WARM AND DRY CONDITIONS ACROSS THE REGION THROUGH THANKSGIVING. A COLD FRONT WILL MOVE THROUGH THE AREA FRIDAY MORNING. TEMPERATURES WILL FALL FRIDAY AFTERNOON AND BE WELL BELOW NORMAL OVER THE WEEKEND. && .NEAR TERM /UNTIL 6 AM THIS MORNING/... FOR THE EVENING UPDATE ADDED PATCHY TO AREAS OF FOG MAINLY FOR THE NORTHWESTERN PORTIONS OF THE FORECAST AREA AFTER MIDNIGHT TONIGHT. TEMP/DEWPOINT SPREADS ARE NARROWING RAPIDLY THIS EVENING ACROSS THESE AREAS WITH FOG ALREADY DEVELOPING JUST TO OUR NORTHWEST. THIS TREND HAS BEEN INDICATED WELL BY THE RAP SURFACE RH FIELDS THIS AFTERNOON AND THEREFORE IS BEING FOLLOWED FOR THE FOG FORECAST FOR TONIGHT. OTHERWISE MADE NO ADJUSTMENTS TO THE PREVIOUS FORECAST EXCEPT ADDING A FEW CIRRUS TO THE SKY GRIDS. && .SHORT TERM /6 AM THIS MORNING THROUGH FRIDAY NIGHT/... SOUTHERLY WINDS WILL OCCUR BETWEEN RETREATING HIGH PRESSURE AND AN ADVANCING COLD FRONT THURSDAY AND THURSDAY EVENING. THIS WILL LEAD TO WELL ABOVE NORMAL TEMPERATURES ONCE AGAIN. HIGH CLOUDS WILL START STREAMING INTO THE REGION DURING THIS PERIOD. THE COLD FRONT WILL MOVE INTO WESTERN SECTIONS VERY LATE THURSDAY NIGHT AND CROSS THE REST OF THE FORECAST AREA FRIDAY MORNING. THERE WILL BE SHOWERS WITH THE COLD FRONT. BUT THERE IS SOME UNCERTAINTY ABOUT COVERAGE OF MEASURABLE RAIN. SO HAVE GONE HIGH CHANCE AND LOW LIKELY FOR THE REGION LATE THURSDAY NIGHT AND FRIDAY MORNING. SHOWERS WILL CLEAR OUT BY MIDDAY FRIDAY WITH CLOUDS DECREASING. TEMPERATURES SHOULD STAY RATHER WARM UNTIL FRONTAL PASSAGE EXCEPT FOR FAR EASTERN/SOUTHEASTERN COUNTIES WHERE READINGS MAY DROP OFF EARLY THURSDAY NIGHT. LOOKS LIKE A SITUATION WHERE THERE COULD BE 13Z LOWS AND 12Z HIGHS IN MANY LOCATIONS WITH READINGS FALLING THROUGH THE REST OF FRIDAY. WINDS WILL BE GUSTY BEHIND THE COLD FRONT WITH WIND CHILL VALUES DROPPING INTO THE UPPER 20S TO MID 30S BY LATE IN THE DAY. WINDS WILL DIMINISH SOMEWHAT FRIDAY NIGHT. ADDITIONAL CLOUD COVER MAY SPREAD INTO THE REGION WITH COLD AIR ADVECTION AND CYCLONIC FLOW OVER THE GREAT LAKES. FELT THAT GFS MOS LOWS LOOKED MORE REASONABLE IN THIS SCENARIO. && .LONG TERM /SATURDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY/... COLD AIR MASS WILL BE IN PLACE ACROSS THE AREA ON SATURDAY WITH HIGH TEMPERATURES ONLY IN THE MIDDLE 30S. WITH WINDS OFF OF LAKE MICHIGAN ON SATURDAY SOME LIGHT LAKE EFFECT SNOW SHOWERS WILL BE POSSIBLE ACROSS NORTHERN PORTIONS OF THE FA. H8 WINDS WILL BECOME MORE WESTERLY SATURDAY EVENING AND PRECIPITATION CHANCES WILL COME TO AN END ACROSS THE FA. CLOUD COVER WILL DECREASE ACROSS THE AREA SATURDAY NIGHT ALLOWING TEMPERATURES TO DROP DOWN INTO THE LOW 20S ACROSS MOST LOCATIONS. WARMER AIR WILL GRADUALLY START TO WORK INTO THE AREA LATE DURING THE OVERNIGHT SATURDAY NIGHT AND THIS SHOULD HELP TO KEEP TEMPERATURES FROM FALLING INTO THE TEENS. TEMPERATURES CLIMB INTO THE 40S ON SUNDAY ACROSS THE AREA WITH SW FLOW HOWEVER THESE VALUES ARE STILL BELOW NORMAL FOR THIS TIME OF YEAR. THE MODELS START TO DIVERGE WITH THE STORM SYSTEM BEGINNING TO IMPACT THE AREA ON MONDAY. MODELS HAVE SHOWN QUITE A BIT OF RUN TO RUN INCONSISTENCY WITH THIS FEATURE. THE LATEST 12Z ECMWF HAS SHIFTED THE LOW QUITE A BIT FURTHER SOUTH FROM THE PREVIOUS MODEL SOLUTIONS AND HAVE DECIDED NOT TO JUMP ON THIS LATEST RUN JUST YET. INSTEAD...WENT WITH A 12Z GFS 00Z ECMWF BLEND. PRECIPITATION WILL BEGIN TO MOVE INTO THE AREA ON MONDAY WITH A GREATER COVERAGE IN PRECIPITATION EXPECTED MONDAY EVENING INTO TUESDAY. PRECIPITATION WILL GENERALLY BE IN THE FORM OF RAIN THROUGH THE DAYTIME HOURS ON TUESDAY EXCEPT FOR A LITTLE SNOW THAT MAY MIX IN AT TIMES ACROSS THE NORTH MONDAY INTO MONDAY NIGHT. WITH THE 12Z GFS 00Z ECMWF BLEND HAVE THE AREA OF LOW PRESSURE MOVING ALONG AND JUST NORTH OF THE INTERSTATE 71 CORRIDOR ON TUESDAY. COLDER AIR WILL QUICKLY WORK INTO THE AREA TUESDAY NIGHT AND ANY RESIDUAL PRECIPITATION WILL BEGIN TO CHANGE OVER TO SNOW ACROSS THE REGION. DRY CONDITIONS WILL RETURN TO THE AREA BY WEDNESDAY MORNING. && .AVIATION /06Z THURSDAY THROUGH MONDAY/... HIGH PRESSURE CENTERED OVER THE REGION ATTM WILL SLIP EAST TODAY. LIGHT WINDS AND CLEAR SKIES WILL ALLOW SOME FOG FORMATION. KEPT FOG AT THE FOGGIER LOCATIONS...LUK AND ILN. ALLOWED LUK TO FALL TO IFR IN FOG...BUT KEPT ILN MVFR ATTM. H5 RIDGE ALSO OVER THE REGION WILL BREAK DOWN TODAY IN RESPONSE TO A S/W KICKING OUT OF THE PLAINS. HIGH LEVEL MOISTURE WILL BEGIN TO INCREASE DURING THE AFTN HOURS. AC DECK IS EXPECTED T0 WORK IN AFT 00Z. CDFNT SWINGING UP THE OH VALLEY WILL PUSH 4-5KFT CIGS INTO CVG AFT 06Z...WITH SCT SHRA AFT 10Z. OUTLOOK...MVFR CEILINGS AND VISIBILITIES POSSIBLE FRIDAY. MVFR CEILINGS POSSIBLE SATURDAY. && .ILN WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... OH...NONE. KY...NONE. IN...NONE. && $$ SYNOPSIS... NEAR TERM...LATTO SHORT TERM... LONG TERM...NOVAK AVIATION...SITES
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION FOR SOUTHEAST SD/SOUTHWEST MN/NORTHWEST IA
NWS SIOUX FALLS SD
1045 PM CST WED NOV 21 2012 .DISCUSSION... STILL A LITTLE MIXY WITH SOUTHWESTERLY LOW LEVEL JET OVER EASTERN PART OF THE AREA. THIS HOLDING TEMPERATURES UP THIS EVENING...WITH READINGS STILL IN THE MID 50S TO LOWER 60S AS OF 03Z. MODELS DO NOT HAVE A GREAT GRASP ON THIS...WITH RAP THE CLOSEST THOUGH STILL A FEW DEGREES SHY AT 03Z. TREND IN THIS MODEL SEEMS REASONABLE THOUGH... WITH SLOW FALL AHEAD OF PRE-FRONTAL TROUGH...WHICH WILL TURN WINDS MORE WESTERLY AND SOMEWHAT LIGHTER OVERNIGHT. SHOULD SEE GREATER FALL AFTER THIS TROUGH PASSAGE...AND WITH COLD ADVECTION BEGINNING TO PUSH INTO WESTERN PARTS OF THE CWA PRIOR TO DAYBREAK...WILL LET GOING LOWS RIDE WITH MINIMAL CHANGES. UPDATED GRIDS/PFM HAVE BEEN SENT. && .AVIATION.../FOR THE 06Z TAF ISSUANCE/ MAINLY VFR CONDITIONS EXPECTED THROUGH THE TAF PERIOD. SOUTHERLY WINDS OVERNIGHT WILL TRANSITION TO NORTHWESTERLY AND INCREASE EARLY ON THURSDAY...WITH GUSTS OF 30 TO 40 KTS LIKELY BY LATE MORNING AND AFTERNOON. REMOVED LLWS AT KSUX AS GUSTY SURFACE WINDS ARE CURRENTLY LIMITING SHEAR...HOWEVER IF SURFACE WINDS ARE ABLE TO DROP OFF OVER THE NEXT COUPLE HOURS LLWS MIGHT NEED TO BE REINTRODUCED...AS STILL SEEING CLOSE TO A 45 KT JET NEAR 1K FEET. SHOULD SEE SOME STRATUS FORM BEHIND THE FRONT TOMORROW AS WELL. CURRENTLY THINKING ANY MVFR CIGS STAY NORTH OF OUR CWA...ALTHOUGH WILL HAVE TO WATCH KHON AND TO A LESSER EXTENT KFSD...AS THEY COULD SEE A BRIEF PERIOD OF MVFR CIGS RIGHT BEHIND THE FRONT LATE TOMORROW MORNING INTO THE EARLY AFTERNOON HOURS...BEFORE DRYING AND CLEARING TAKES PLACE. WINDS WILL REMAIN GUSTY THROUGH THE EVENING HOURS...BUT SHOULD DROP A TAD. BUT AS A SECONDARY PUSH OF COLD AIR MOVES THROUGH...WE SHOULD SEE WINDS KICK UP A NOTCH WITH GUSTS BACK AROUND 35 KTS LATER IN THE EVENING INTO THE OVERNIGHT. /CHENARD && .PREV DISCUSSION.../ISSUED AT 241 PM CST/ BRISK SOUTH SOUTHWESTERLY FLOW WILL CONTINUE ACROSS MUCH OF THE AREA TONIGHT WITH THE APPROACH OF A SURFACE TROUGH FROM THE WEST. THIS WILL ALLOW FOR WINDS TO STAY UP OVERNIGHT...MORE SO IN THE EAST...AND IT WILL BE A MILD NIGHT WITH LOWS PRIMARILY IN THE 40S. THE SURFACE TROUGH/FRONTAL BOUNDARY WILL SWING THROUGH THE AREA ON THURSDAY...AND WITH STRONG COLD AIR ADVECTION/STEEP LOW LEVEL LAPSE RATES/WINDS GENERALLY 40 TO 45 KTS AT THE TOP OF THE MIXED LAYER/AND A TIGHTENING GRADIENT IT WILL BE A WINDY DAY...AND EXPANDED THE WIND ADVISORY OVER THE ENTIRE CWA. WHILE THE ADVISORY WILL BE MARGINAL IN SOME AREAS...AND STRONGEST WINDS MAY ONLY PERSIST FOR 2 OR 3 HOURS WITH THE FRONTAL PASSAGE...FOR THE SAKE OF SIMPLICITY AND COORDINATION WITH SURROUNDING OFFICES ELECTED TO INCLUDE THE ENTIRE AREA AS CRITERIA IS EXPECTED TO BE CLOSE ENOUGH. WHILE THE COLDEST AIR WILL NOT COME IN UNTIL THURSDAY NIGHT...WITH 925 MB TEMPERATURES PROGGED TO BE A GOOD 10 TO 15 DEGREES C COOLER ON THURSDAY AFTERNOON OVER TODAY...WILL HAVE HIGHS RANGING FROM THE UPPER 40S TO MID 50S ACROSS THE AREA...THOUGH IT WILL OBVIOUSLY FEEL COLDER WHEN THE WINDS ARE FACTORED IN. A STRONG SURGE OF COLD AIR WILL MOVE SOUTH ON THURSDAY NIGHT ALONG WITH GUSTY NORTHWEST WINDS. MODELS IN PRETTY GOOD AGREEMENT WITH THE AMOUNT OF COOLING...JUST SOME MINOR DIFFERENCES ON THE TIMING OF THE FRONT. THE NAM SEEMS TO HANDLE THESE LOW LEVEL FRONTAL FEATURES BEST THIS TIME OF YEAR SO USED THAT TO ACCOUNT FOR THE SOMEWHAT NON DIURNAL NATURE OF TEMPERATURES AS THEY DROP THROUGH THE EARLY MORNING OF FRIDAY BEFORE SLOWLY RISING THROUGH THE DAY. LOWS WILL BE MODERATED A BIT BY THE STRONG FLOW SO WENT CLOSEST TO THE CONSRAW OUTPUT WHICH HANDLES WINDY NIGHTS THE BEST...SO MAINLY LOWER TO MID 20S FOR LOWS. HIGH TEMPERATURES FRIDAY WILL NOT REBOUND MUCH AS COLD ADVECTION CONTINUES AND CLOUDS IN THE EAST ARE SLOW TO ERODE. MAINLY AIMING FOR 250 TO 30 IN THE EAST AND 30 TO 35 IN THE WEST. FRIDAY NIGHT INTO SATURDAY WILL SEE A FAST MOVING SURFACE HIGH PRESSURE MOVE THROUGH WITH BREEZY SOUTHERLY FLOW DEVELOPING ON SATURDAY. TWEAKED LOWS DOWN JUST A TOUCH IN THE EASTERN CWA AND LEFT THEM ABOUT AS IS IN THE WESTERN CWA. WITH THE RETURN FLOW SETTING UP IN THE FAR SOUTH AND WEST CWA ALSO HAVE GRADUALLY WARMING TEMPERATURES IN THOSE AREAS THROUGH SUNRISE. BY SATURDAY THIS STRONG SOUTHERLY FLOW WILL BE IN PLACE WITH A FAIRLY STRONG THERMAL GRADIENT DEVELOPING ACROSS THE CWA. EXPECTING TEMPERATURES TO STRUGGLE A BIT IN THE EAST WHERE SOUTHERLY WINDS WILL BE SLOW TO SET UP...SO ONLY MID 30S. IN THE SOUTHWEST CWA A SURGE OF WARMER AIR SHOULD ALLOW TEMPERATURES TO BUMP UP INTO THE LOWER 50S. IN THE LATTER PERIODS(SUN/WED)...A TROUGH OF LOW PRESSURE WILL DIG INTO THE CENTRAL ROCKIES SUNDAY AFTERNOON THEN SPREAD ACROSS THE CENTRAL PLAINS SUNDAY NIGHT INTO MONDAY. WHILE THERE WILL BE A SMALL CHANCE FOR LIGHT SNOW DURING THIS TIME...WITH SO MUCH NORTHWEST JET ENERGY UPSTREAM FEEL THAT THE WAVE MAY DIG A LITTLE FARTHER SOUTH THAN MODELS CURRENTLY PROJECT SO DO NOT PLAN ON INCREASING PROBABILITIES FOR MEASURABLE SNOWFALL. IF THE WAVE DOES DIVE A LITTLE FARTHER SOUTHWEST ON SUNDAY THE AMOUNT OF WARM AIR THAT MAKES IT THIS FAR NORTH WILL BE MINIMAL WITH A NORTH TO NORTHEAST WIND DEVELOPING THROUGH THE DAY. WILL CONTINUE TO KEEP HIGHS FAIRLY COOL BUT SEASONAL FROM THE UPPER 30S NORTH TO THE MID 40S SOUTH. AS THE WAVE PASSES ON SUNDAY NIGHT COLDER AIR WILL POUR INTO THE REGION SETTING UP A FAIRLY COLD MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY TIME PERIOD. WILL CONTINUE TO LEAN TOWARDS THE MORE CONSISTENT ECMWF WHICH BUILDS THE HIGH PRESSURE SOUTH AND IS MORE STUBBORN ABOUT ALLOWING WARM AIR TO SURGE NORTHEAST AS A WEAK WAVE PASSES ON TUESDAY NIGHT INTO WEDNESDAY. /08 && .FIRE WEATHER.../ISSUED AT 333 PM CST/ THANKSGIVING DAY WILL SEE VERY STRONG NORTHWEST WINDS DEVELOP DURING THE DAY AND WITH VERY DRY CONDITIONS A VERY HIGH FIRE DANGER WILL BE IN PLACE. THE STRONGEST WINDS WILL BE IN CENTRAL SOUTH DAKOTA DOWN THE MISSOURI RIVER VALLEY THROUGH EARLY AFTERNOON...THEN TRANSITION INTO EASTERN SOUTH DAKOTA...SOUTHWEST MINNESOTA AND NORTHWEST IOWA FROM EARLY AFTERNOON INTO THE EVENING. && .FSD WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... IA...WIND ADVISORY FROM NOON TO 6 PM CST THURSDAY FOR IAZ001>003- 012>014-020>022-031-032. MN...WIND ADVISORY FROM NOON TO 6 PM CST THURSDAY FOR MNZ071-072-080- 081-089-090-097-098. NE...WIND ADVISORY FROM 9 AM TO 6 PM CST THURSDAY FOR NEZ013. WIND ADVISORY FROM NOON TO 6 PM CST THURSDAY FOR NEZ014. SD...WIND ADVISORY FROM 9 AM TO 6 PM CST THURSDAY FOR SDZ038-050-052- 053-057>060-063>066-068>070. WIND ADVISORY FROM NOON TO 6 PM CST THURSDAY FOR SDZ039-040- 054>056-061-062-067-071. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS AMARILLO TX
1119 PM CST WED NOV 21 2012 .AVIATION... 06Z TAF CYCLE UPPER TROUGH TO PUSH THROUGH THE PANHANDLES BETWEEN 12Z AND 18Z THURSDAY WITH NORTHWESTERLY UPPER FLOW BEHIND THE DEPARTING UPPER TROUGH LATE THURSDAY AND THURSDAY NIGHT. VFR CONDITIONS WITH CONSIDERABLE MID AND HIGH LEVEL CLOUDINESS TONIGHT...AND CLEAR TO SCATTERED HIGH LEVEL CLOUDS BY THURSDAY AFTERNOON AND THURSDAY NIGHT. LOW LEVEL SOUTHERLY JET OVER THE PANHANDLES TONIGHT WILL ALLOW FOR GUSTY SOUTHERLY WINDS 15 TO 25 KNOTS WITH OCCASIONAL HIGHER GUSTS...THEN COLD FRONT MOVES THROUGH THE GUYMON AND DALHART TAF SITES AROUND 13Z TO 15Z THURSDAY SHIFTING THE WINDS TO NORTHERLY 15 TO 25 KNOTS WITH HIGHER GUSTS. COLD FRONT MOVES THROUGH THE AMARILLO TAF SITE BETWEEN AROUND 16Z AND 18Z THURSDAY WITH WINDS BECOMING NORTHERLY 15 TO 25 KNOTS WITH HIGHER GUSTS. NORTHERLY WINDS GRADUALLY DIMINISH BETWEEN 21Z THURSDAY AND 02Z FRIDAY TO AROUND 10 TO 20 KNOTS UNTIL 06Z FRIDAY. SCHNEIDER && .PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 959 PM CST WED NOV 21 2012/ UPDATE... QUICK UPDATE TO TWEAK OVERNIGHT WINDS...TEMPS...AND DEWPOINTS UPWARD BASED ON CURRENT TRENDS. KB PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 518 PM CST WED NOV 21 2012/ AVIATION... 00Z TAF CYCLE UPPER TROUGH WILL MOVE ACROSS THE TEXAS AND OKLAHOMA PANHANDLES TONIGHT PRODUCING CONSIDERABLE MID AND HIGH LEVEL CLOUDINESS AND USHERING IN A COLD FRONT THANKSGIVING DAY MORNING. VFR CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED ALONG WITH SOUTHERLY WINDS 15 TO 20 KNOTS WITH SOME HIGHER GUSTS POSSIBLE TONIGHT...THEN WINDS SHIFTING TO THE NORTHWEST AND NORTH 15 TO 25 KNOTS WITH HIGHER GUSTS AFTER 14Z TO 17Z THANKSGIVING DAY. WIND SPEEDS ARE EXPECTED TO GRADUALLY DIMINISH AFTER 20Z TO 22Z THANKSGIVING DAY TO AROUND 15 KNOTS. SCHNEIDER PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 415 PM CST WED NOV 21 2012/ DISCUSSION... CONTINUED DRY CONDITIONS AND PERIODIC FRONTAL PASSAGES HIGHLIGHT THE FORECAST PERIOD. SOUTHWESTERLY WINDS AND CLOUD COVER HAVE INCREASED TODAY IN ADVANCE OF A SHORTWAVE TROUGH NOW EJECTING THROUGH THE AMBIENT SOUTHWESTERLY FLOW ALOFT. WHILE MOST OF THE FORCING/ASCENT AND MEANINGFUL RAIN CHANCES ASSOCIATED WITH THIS FEATURE WILL REMAIN WELL SOUTH OF THE AREA...SOME ENHANCED VORTICITY/DEEPENING OF THE TROUGH HAS EMERGED THIS AFTERNOON OVER CENTRAL NEW MEXICO. ISOLATED HIGH-BASED CONVECTION HAS DEVELOPED NEAR ROSWELL. ALL NWP SOLUTIONS MINIMIZE PROSPECTS FOR PRECIPITATION IN THE PANHANDLES AS THIS TRANSLATES OVER THE REGION TONIGHT. ONLY THE RAP DEPICTS THE SMALLEST HINT OF QPF OVER THE SOUTHWESTERN PANHANDLE. THUS WE HAVE MAINTAINED A DRY FORECAST WITH GRIDDED POPS AT/BELOW 10 PERCENT. A FRONT IS EXPECTED TO PUSH ACROSS THE PANHANDLES AFTER 12-15Z THURSDAY IN WAKE OF THE PASSING SHORTWAVE TROUGH AXIS. 3-HR PRESSURE RISES AROUND 4 MB OVER KANSAS WILL SUPPORT POST FRONTAL WINDS OF 15 TO 25 MPH...ESPECIALLY OVER THE OKLAHOMA PANHANDLE AND THE NORTHERN TEXAS PANHANDLE. ALL INDICATIONS OF SUFFICIENT LIFT/MOISTURE TO SUPPORT CONVECTION ALONG THE FRONT ARE DISPLACED WELL EAST AND SOUTH OF THE REGION. A 1035-1037 MB CONTINENTAL SURFACE HIGH WILL PUSH SOUTHWARD THROUGH THE PLAINS IN WAKE OF THE FRONT. THIS WILL RESULT IN NOTABLY COOLER TEMPERATURES /SOME 5 DEGREES BELOW SEASONAL AVERAGES/ BY FRIDAY. THE COOL SURFACE RIDGE WILL TRANSLATE SOUTHEAST TOWARD THE LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY...LENDING TOWARD TEMPERATURE MODERATION OVER THE PANHANDLES THROUGH THE WEEKEND. THIS AS LOW AMPLITUDE RIDGING OVER THE WEST RESULTS IN MODEST NORTHWESTERLY FLOW OVER THE CENTRAL/SOUTHERN PLAINS AND LEE TROUGHING. ATTENTION THEN SHIFTS TOWARD A SHORTWAVE TROUGH AND ASSOCIATED FRONTAL PASSAGE EARLY NEXT WEEK. THE INITIAL FRONTAL PASSAGE WILL OCCUR DURING THE LATE SUNDAY/EARLY MONDAY TIMEFRAME...AND MAY RESULT IN PROBLEMATIC TEMPERATURE FORECASTS INITIALLY. THE FRONT WILL FINALLY PUSH SOLIDLY THROUGH BY LATE MONDAY AS THE APPROACHING SHORTWAVE TROUGH AMPLIFIES IN NORTHWESTERLY FLOW. SOME SOLUTIONS GENERATE LIGHT QPF IN PROXIMITY TO THE NORTHERN AND EASTERN PANHANDLES...BUT CONFIDENCE IN SUFFICIENT FORCING/MOISTURE IS NOT HIGH AND THE CURRENT DRY FORECAST CONTINUES TO APPEAR VALID. FIRE WEATHER... ONGOING ELEVATED FIRE WEATHER OVER THE WESTERN AND CENTRAL OKLAHOMA PANHANDLE AND NORTHWESTERN TEXAS PANHANDLE WILL DIMINISH BY EARLY EVENING. CONCERNS FOR ELEVATED CONDITIONS WILL AGAIN EXIST THURSDAY... AS POST FRONTAL WINDS INCREASE INTO THE 15 TO 20 MPH RANGE AND AFTERNOON HUMIDITY MINIMA DROP TOWARDS 15 PERCENT AGAIN OVER THE WESTERN OKLAHOMA PANHANDLE AND THE NORTHWESTERN TEXAS PANHANDLE. OTHERWISE...ELEVATED OR CRITICAL CONDITIONS ARE NOT ANTICIPATED THROUGH THE REMAINDER OF THE PERIOD. && .AMA WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... TX...NONE. OK...NONE. && $$ 11/08
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS GOODLAND KS
418 AM MST THU NOV 22 2012 .SHORT TERM...(TODAY THROUGH SATURDAY NIGHT) ISSUED AT 226 AM MST THU NOV 22 2012 MAIN FORECAST ISSUE WILL BE THE WINDS TODAY WITH MINOR CONCERNS OF HOW MUCH IT COOLS OFF THROUGH TOMORROW AND HOW MUCH THE WARM UP IS ON SATURDAY. SATELLITE SHOWING AN AMPLIFIED PATTERN OVER THE PACIFIC WITH A LESS AMPLIFIED MORE PROGRESSIVE FLOW FROM NORTH AMERICA INTO THE ATLANTIC. COLD FRONT IS APPROACHING THE AREA FROM THE NORTHWEST. AT JET LEVEL...THE ECMWF WAS DOING A LITTLE BETTER THAN THE UKMET... CANADIAN...AND NAM ON THE JET SEGMENT ASSOCIATED WITH THE NORTHERN STREAM SYSTEM. THE GFS FOLLOWED BY THE SREF WAS TOO STRONG WITH THE JET BEHIND THE INCOMING TROUGH. AT MID LEVELS THE MODELS INITIALIZED FINE WITH NO BIG PROBLEMS. THE RUC AND NAM WERE DOING BEST ON THE WIND/PRESSURE FIELD. LOW LEVEL THERMAL GUIDANCE WAS CLOSE TO EACH OTHER AND REALITY. TODAY/TONIGHT...SATELLITE AND UPPER AIR IS SHOWING A VERY DRY AND SUBSIDENT AIR MASS BEHIND THE SYSTEM MOVING ALONG THE CANADIAN AND UNITED STATES BORDER. SURFACE TO 850 MB WINDS ARE HIGHEST AT 12Z AND THEN DECREASE BY 18Z. SOME PLACES COULD REACH 35 KNOT GUSTS. HIGHEST OBSERVED 3 HOUR PRESSURE RISES HAVE OCCURRED MUCH FURTHER NORTH AND ARE NOT ANYTHING OUT OF THE ORDINARY AT THIS TIME. FORECAST PRESSURE GRADIENT AND 3 HOUR PRESSURE RISES ARE HIGHEST EARLY ON AND DECREASE BY 18Z. IN FACT BOTH WOULD INDICATE A QUICK BURST OF THE STRONGEST WINDS RIGHT AFTER THE FROPA AND SUPPORT WINDY CONDITIONS BUT NOT QUITE AT ADVISORY CRITERIA. STRONGEST SUBSIDENCE LOOKS TO BE NEAR THE NORTHERN PORTION OF OUR AREA. THAT AND OTHER GUIDANCE WOULD SUPPORT THE HIGHEST WINDS TO BE IN THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THE AREA AND MAYBE SOME OF THE SOUTHWEST. SO HAVE CONTINUE TO HAVE WINDS JUST UNDER ADVISORY CRITERIA WITH THE NORTH THE CLOSEST. HIGH LEVEL CLOUDS WILL BE THICKEST EARLY DUE TO THE RIGHT REAR QUADRANT OF THE MID AND UPPER JET BEING CLOSE. OVERNIGHT TEMPERATURES HAVE BEEN ALL OVER THE PLACE AS THE PREFRONTAL TROUGH WORKS ITS WAY ACROSS. FRONT LOOKS TO PUSH THROUGH THE AREA EARLY TODAY. NWP IS WARMER THAN IT WAS YESTERDAY AND IN CLOSE AGREEMENT. MADE ONLY SLIGHT ADJUSTMENTS. GUIDANCE THIS MORNING KEEPS THE WINDS STRONGER FOR TONIGHT THAN THE IT DID YESTERDAY DUE TO THE SURFACE RIDGE MOVING IN A LITTLE SLOWER. SO WARMED UP THE MINS. FRIDAY/FRIDAY NIGHT...SHOULD SEE PLENTY OF SUN WITH AREA COMING UNDER THE CONTROL OF RIDGING/SUBSIDENCE/DRYING. SURFACE HIGH MOVES ACROSS DURING THE DAY AND IS NOT TOO FAR EAST OF THE AREA BY LATE IN THE AFTERNOON. NEW GUIDANCE IS CLOSE TO EACH OTHER AND NOT TOO DIFFERENT FROM ONGOING FORECAST SO MADE LITTLE IF ANY CHANGES. WIND FIELD STARTS OUT LIGHT BEFORE WAA AND DOWNSLOPE STARTS. TEMPERATURES COULD FALL RAPIDLY BEFORE THIS GETS GOING. SATURDAY/SATURDAY NIGHT...AGAIN LOOKS LIKE A LOT OF SUN THROUGH THE DAY. WINDS STAY LIGHT THROUGH THE DAY BUT MOSTLY FROM A DOWNSLOPE DIRECTION. NEWER GUIDANCE IS PRETTY CLOSE TO EACH OTHER AND WARMER THAN CURRENT FORECAST. CONSIDERING THE DEEP/INCREASING WESTERLY FLOW ALOFT THIS DOES MAKE SENSE. DRY AIR MASS AND DRY GROUND SHOULD ALLOW A QUICK RESPONSE TO THE EVEN LIGHT DOWNSLOPE WIND. HOWEVER MAY HAVE SOME WAVE CLOUDS DEVELOP EVEN THOUGH MODELS SAY NO. WILL WARM UP MAXES SOME AT THIS TIME. .LONG TERM...(SUNDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY) ISSUED AT 1142 PM MST WED NOV 21 2012 SHORTWAVE TROUGH WILL MOVE FROM THE NORTHERN ROCKIES TO THE CENTRAL PLAINS SUNDAY NIGHT AND MONDAY. MODEL SOLUTIONS CONTINUE TO RETREAT FROM PRECIPITATION CHANCES...AND ITS LOOKING LIKE LITTLE TO NONE IN THE LOCAL AREA. COLDER AIR WILL MOVE IN BEHIND THE COLD FRONT SUNDAY NIGHT BUT COOL DOWN WILL BE SHORT LIVED. UPPER RIDGE WILL QUICKLY REBUILD OVER THE GREAT BASIN EARLY IN THE WEEK THEN ROCKIES BY MID WEEK. TEMPERATURES WILL RETURN TO ABOVE NORMAL BY TUESDAY WITH NO PRECIPITATION CHANCES. && .AVIATION...(FOR THE 12Z TAFS THROUGH 12Z FRIDAY MORNING) ISSUED AT 415 AM MST THU NOV 22 2012 VFR CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED THROUGH THE PERIOD. COLD FRONT WILL MOVE THROUGH THE AREA THIS MORNING. AS IT DOES SO...WINDS WILL INCREASE THROUGH THE MORNING AND BECOME GUSTY. SOME BLOWING DUST COULD OCCUR BUT DO NOT EXPECT TO BE WIDESPREAD ENOUGH OR TO CREATE SUB VFR CONDITIONS AT THIS TIME. WINDS ARE NOT EXPECTED TO DECREASE UNTIL LATE IN THE AFTERNOON AND THEN REMAIN LIGHT THROUGH THE REST OF THE NIGHT. && .GLD WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... KS...NONE. CO...NONE. NE...NONE. && $$ SHORT TERM...BULLER LONG TERM...024 AVIATION...BULLER
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS GOODLAND KS
950 AM MST THU NOV 22 2012 .SHORT TERM...(TODAY THROUGH SATURDAY NIGHT) ISSUED AT 226 AM MST THU NOV 22 2012 MAIN FORECAST ISSUE WILL BE THE WINDS TODAY WITH MINOR CONCERNS OF HOW MUCH IT COOLS OFF THROUGH TOMORROW AND HOW MUCH THE WARM UP IS ON SATURDAY. SATELLITE SHOWING AN AMPLIFIED PATTERN OVER THE PACIFIC WITH A LESS AMPLIFIED MORE PROGRESSIVE FLOW FROM NORTH AMERICA INTO THE ATLANTIC. COLD FRONT IS APPROACHING THE AREA FROM THE NORTHWEST. AT JET LEVEL...THE ECMWF WAS DOING A LITTLE BETTER THAN THE UKMET... CANADIAN...AND NAM ON THE JET SEGMENT ASSOCIATED WITH THE NORTHERN STREAM SYSTEM. THE GFS FOLLOWED BY THE SREF WAS TOO STRONG WITH THE JET BEHIND THE INCOMING TROUGH. AT MID LEVELS THE MODELS INITIALIZED FINE WITH NO BIG PROBLEMS. THE RUC AND NAM WERE DOING BEST ON THE WIND/PRESSURE FIELD. LOW LEVEL THERMAL GUIDANCE WAS CLOSE TO EACH OTHER AND REALITY. TODAY/TONIGHT...SATELLITE AND UPPER AIR IS SHOWING A VERY DRY AND SUBSIDENT AIR MASS BEHIND THE SYSTEM MOVING ALONG THE CANADIAN AND UNITED STATES BORDER. SURFACE TO 850 MB WINDS ARE HIGHEST AT 12Z AND THEN DECREASE BY 18Z. SOME PLACES COULD REACH 35 KNOT GUSTS. HIGHEST OBSERVED 3 HOUR PRESSURE RISES HAVE OCCURRED MUCH FURTHER NORTH AND ARE NOT ANYTHING OUT OF THE ORDINARY AT THIS TIME. FORECAST PRESSURE GRADIENT AND 3 HOUR PRESSURE RISES ARE HIGHEST EARLY ON AND DECREASE BY 18Z. IN FACT BOTH WOULD INDICATE A QUICK BURST OF THE STRONGEST WINDS RIGHT AFTER THE FROPA AND SUPPORT WINDY CONDITIONS BUT NOT QUITE AT ADVISORY CRITERIA. STRONGEST SUBSIDENCE LOOKS TO BE NEAR THE NORTHERN PORTION OF OUR AREA. THAT AND OTHER GUIDANCE WOULD SUPPORT THE HIGHEST WINDS TO BE IN THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THE AREA AND MAYBE SOME OF THE SOUTHWEST. SO HAVE CONTINUE TO HAVE WINDS JUST UNDER ADVISORY CRITERIA WITH THE NORTH THE CLOSEST. HIGH LEVEL CLOUDS WILL BE THICKEST EARLY DUE TO THE RIGHT REAR QUADRANT OF THE MID AND UPPER JET BEING CLOSE. OVERNIGHT TEMPERATURES HAVE BEEN ALL OVER THE PLACE AS THE PREFRONTAL TROUGH WORKS ITS WAY ACROSS. FRONT LOOKS TO PUSH THROUGH THE AREA EARLY TODAY. NWP IS WARMER THAN IT WAS YESTERDAY AND IN CLOSE AGREEMENT. MADE ONLY SLIGHT ADJUSTMENTS. GUIDANCE THIS MORNING KEEPS THE WINDS STRONGER FOR TONIGHT THAN THE IT DID YESTERDAY DUE TO THE SURFACE RIDGE MOVING IN A LITTLE SLOWER. SO WARMED UP THE MINS. FRIDAY/FRIDAY NIGHT...SHOULD SEE PLENTY OF SUN WITH AREA COMING UNDER THE CONTROL OF RIDGING/SUBSIDENCE/DRYING. SURFACE HIGH MOVES ACROSS DURING THE DAY AND IS NOT TOO FAR EAST OF THE AREA BY LATE IN THE AFTERNOON. NEW GUIDANCE IS CLOSE TO EACH OTHER AND NOT TOO DIFFERENT FROM ONGOING FORECAST SO MADE LITTLE IF ANY CHANGES. WIND FIELD STARTS OUT LIGHT BEFORE WAA AND DOWNSLOPE STARTS. TEMPERATURES COULD FALL RAPIDLY BEFORE THIS GETS GOING. SATURDAY/SATURDAY NIGHT...AGAIN LOOKS LIKE A LOT OF SUN THROUGH THE DAY. WINDS STAY LIGHT THROUGH THE DAY BUT MOSTLY FROM A DOWNSLOPE DIRECTION. NEWER GUIDANCE IS PRETTY CLOSE TO EACH OTHER AND WARMER THAN CURRENT FORECAST. CONSIDERING THE DEEP/INCREASING WESTERLY FLOW ALOFT THIS DOES MAKE SENSE. DRY AIR MASS AND DRY GROUND SHOULD ALLOW A QUICK RESPONSE TO THE EVEN LIGHT DOWNSLOPE WIND. HOWEVER MAY HAVE SOME WAVE CLOUDS DEVELOP EVEN THOUGH MODELS SAY NO. WILL WARM UP MAXES SOME AT THIS TIME. .LONG TERM...(SUNDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY) ISSUED AT 1142 PM MST WED NOV 21 2012 SHORTWAVE TROUGH WILL MOVE FROM THE NORTHERN ROCKIES TO THE CENTRAL PLAINS SUNDAY NIGHT AND MONDAY. MODEL SOLUTIONS CONTINUE TO RETREAT FROM PRECIPITATION CHANCES...AND ITS LOOKING LIKE LITTLE TO NONE IN THE LOCAL AREA. COLDER AIR WILL MOVE IN BEHIND THE COLD FRONT SUNDAY NIGHT BUT COOL DOWN WILL BE SHORT LIVED. UPPER RIDGE WILL QUICKLY REBUILD OVER THE GREAT BASIN EARLY IN THE WEEK THEN ROCKIES BY MID WEEK. TEMPERATURES WILL RETURN TO ABOVE NORMAL BY TUESDAY WITH NO PRECIPITATION CHANCES. && .AVIATION...(FOR THE 18Z TAFS THROUGH 18Z FRIDAY AFTERNOON) ISSUED AT 948 AM MST THU NOV 22 2012 VFR CONDITIONS WILL CONTINUE FOR THE NEXT 24 HOURS AT KGLD AND KMCK. GUSTY NORTH WIND WILL GRADUALLY DECREASE BY SUNSET AND OVERNIGHT INTO FRIDAY MORNING AS HIGH PRESSURE BUILDS INTO THE REGION BEHIND THE COLD FRONT. && .GLD WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... KS...NONE. CO...NONE. NE...NONE. && $$ SHORT TERM...BULLER LONG TERM...024 AVIATION...032
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS GRAND RAPIDS MI
1243 PM EST THU NOV 22 2012 .SYNOPSIS... ISSUED AT 341 AM EST THU NOV 22 2012 A WINDY AND WARM THANKSGIVING DAY IS ON TAP FOR LOWER MICHIGAN. TEMPERATURES WILL WARM INTO THE LOWER 60S AS GUSTY SOUTHERLY WINDS BRING THE WARM AIR UP INTO MICHIGAN. THE WARMER AIR WILL BE SHORT LIVED HOWEVER AS A STRONG COLD FRONT WILL MOVE THROUGH THE AREA LATE TONIGHT. RAIN SHOWERS AND EVEN A SLIGHT CHANCE OF A RUMBLE OF THUNDER WILL BE POSSIBLE. THE COLDER AIR WILL FILTER INTO THE AREA DURING THE DAY ON FRIDAY. TEMPERATURES WILL FALL THROUGH THE DAY INTO THE 30S. RAIN SHOWERS WILL CHANGE OVER TO SNOW SHOWERS. SOME LIGHT ACCUMULATIONS WILL BE POSSIBLE FOR THE LAKESHORE COMMUNITIES. && .UPDATE... ISSUED AT 1122 AM EST THU NOV 22 2012 I DID SOME SIGNIFICANT GRID UPDATES LATE THIS MORNING. I UPDATED THE START OF THE GALE WARNING AND I INCREASED THE POP FOR BOTH TONIGHT AND FRIDAY. BASED ON THE LATEST DATA FROM BOTH THE NAM12 AND HRRR IT SEEMS TO ME THE WINDS WILL RAMP UP SOONER OVER LAKE MICHIGAN AND OUR NEAR SHORE WATERS. THE NAM12 SOUNDING AT MKG...BIV...LDM AND THE SOUTH BUOY SHOW 40 TO 45 KNOTS IN THE MIX LAYER BY 21Z. CLOUDS MAY BE AN ISSUE BUT AT 21Z I COULD SEE THERE NOT BEING A LOT OF CLOUDS YET. AS A RESULT I BROUGHT FORWARD IN TIME THE START OF THE GALE WARNING TO 4 PM FROM 10 PM. THE NAM12 IS NOW SHOWING DEEPER MOISTURE FOR BOTH THE PRECIPITATION EVENT TONIGHT AND THE LAKE ENHANCED SNOW FOR FRIDAY AFTERNOON INTO SATURDAY MORNING. FOR THE MOST PART MY POP GRID IS REALLY BASED ON THE LIFT IN THE SATURATED DGZ GRID FROM THE NAM12. THAT HAS TIME AND AGAIN SHOWN ME TO BE THE MOST RELIABLE TOOL FOR FORECASTING PRECIPITATION (RAIN/SNOW AND EVEN TIMING OF THUNDERSTORMS IF THAT IS APPROPRIATE). THE SOUTHERN STREAM MOISTURE (SEEN WELL ON THE WATER VAPOR LOOPS) IS STREAMING NORTHEAST AND WILL RUN INTO THE FRONTAL ZONE LIFT BY MID AFTERNOON. THIS SHOULD HAVE NO PROBLEM SPARKING SHOWERS AND ISOLATED THUNDERSTORMS AS THERE IS A 50 - 70 KNOT LOW LEVEL JET WITH PRECIPITABLE WATER VALUES OVER 300 PCT OF NORMAL JUST AHEAD OF THE FRONT. I SEE NO REASON WHY I SHOULD NOT GO CONDITIONAL GIVEN THE DEEP MOISTURE...STRONG LIFT AND STRONG FRONT WITH A GOOD SOUTHERN STREAM SHORTWAVE. AS FOR FRIDAY... THERE IS NOW BETTER LIFT IN THE DGZ ON THE NAM12 FOR THE LAKE EFFECT SNOW EVENT FRIDAY INTO FRIDAY NIGHT. I HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS MORE CLOSELY BY WE MAY HAVE TO INCREASE SNOWFALL AMOUNTS. && .SHORT TERM...(TODAY THROUGH SATURDAY) ISSUED AT 341 AM EST THU NOV 22 2012 MAIN CHALLENGES IN THE SHORT TERM PORTION OF THE FCST REVOLVE AROUND RAIN CHANCES TONIGHT...AND LAKE EFFECT TRENDS FRI THROUGH SAT. THE ONLY REAL CHANGE TO THE FCST WAS TO SLIP A SLIGHT CHC MENTION OF THUNDER IN THE FCST FOR LATE THIS AFTERNOON AND EVENING. MANY OBSERVATIONS THIS MORNING ARE TRYING TO DROP THE VISIBILITIES IN FOG. SITES ARE DOWN TO BETWEEN 1-4SM. THEY HAVE STABILIZED AS IT APPEARS THE WINDS ALOFT...AND RESIDUAL BREEZE AT THE SURFACE ARE KEEPING CONDITIONS FROM DROPPING TOO MUCH. WE DO NOT EXPECT TO HAVE TO ISSUE ANY FOG HEADLINES THIS MORNING. THE FIRST 2/3RDS OF THE DAY TODAY LOOKS QUITE NICE. WE SHOULD SEE A GOOD DEAL OF SUNSHINE INTO THE FIRST PORTION OF THE AFTERNOON WITH ONLY SOME HIGH CLOUDS MOVING THROUGH. IT WILL BE BREEZY WITH WIND GUSTS APPROACHING 30 MPH IF NOT ECLIPSING IT AT TIMES. WE WILL SEE THE MOISTURE TRANSPORT PICK UP SIGNIFICANTLY BETWEEN 18Z AND 00Z TONIGHT AS THE LOW LEVEL JET AXIS MOVES OVERHEAD. WE SHOULD SEE THE MOSTLY SUNNY SKIES TURN MOSTLY CLOUDY PRETTY QUICK LATER THIS AFTERNOON. DEEP ENOUGH MOISTURE IS FOUND ACROSS THE WRN COUNTIES WHERE ANY RAIN THAT FORMS COULD REACH THE GROUND BY 00Z. THE BEST THREAT OF RAIN WILL COME BETWEEN 00Z AND 09Z TONIGHT...AND ACROSS THE SE 2/3RDS OF THE CWFA. THIS IS WHERE THE DEEPEST MOISTURE COMES TOGETHER DUE TO THE WAY THE UPPER MOISTURE ADVECTS INTO THE AREA AHEAD OF THE WAVE. AS MENTIONED ABOVE...WE HAVE ADDED THUNDER TO THE FCST. MODELS ARE INDICATING A LITTLE MORE ELEVATED INSTABILITY PRESENT THAN 24 HOURS AGO. SEVERE THREAT SHOULD REMAIN RATHER LOW DUE TO THE GENERAL NATURE OF THE ELEVATED INSTABILITY. THE STRONG LOW LEVEL JET IS SOME CAUSE FOR CONCERN AS IT WOULDN/T TAKE MUCH TO MIX IT DOWN. HOWEVER...ONCE AGAIN THE ELEVATED NATURE OF THE INSTABILITY SHOULD LIMIT THE SEVERE POTENTIAL. WE WILL SEE THE DRY SLOT TRAVERSE THE AREA BETWEEN 09Z AND 15Z FRI. AFTER 15Z...WE SEE THE WRAP AROUND MOISTURE ROTATE BACK IN ACROSS THE AREA. H850 TEMPS DROP PRETTY QUICK AT THIS TIME TO EVENTUALLY AROUND -10C. WE EXPECT THAT THE WRAP AROUND MOISTURE WILL START OUT AS SOME RAIN AND/OR SNOW SHOWERS THAT WILL TRANSITION TO ALL SNOW SHOWERS PRETTY QUICKLY. A FEW SCATTERED SYNOPTIC SNOW SHOWERS WILL REMAIN POSSIBLE. THE FOCUS WILL TURN ON LAKE EFFECT BY LATE FRI AFTERNOON. DELTA T/S WILL BE APPROACHING 20C. WE WILL HAVE CYCLONIC FLOW ALOFT. MOISTURE WILL BE SOMEWHAT LIMITED...WITH INVERSION HEIGHTS AROUND 7-8K FT. THE BEST LIFT IS BELOW THE DGZ SO WE DO NOT EXPECT SIGNIFICANT SNOW RATES. THE FLOW WILL TRANSITION FROM WNW TO PURE NW BY 00Z SAT. THIS WILL LAST INTO THE FIRST HALF OF SAT. WE ARE EXPECTING THAT A COUPLE OF LOCATIONS MAY SEE AN INCH OR TWO FROM LATE FRI INTO MIDDAY SAT. THE UPPER LOW WILL LIFT OUT OF THE AREA SAT AFTERNOON. THE UPPER FLOW BECOMES ANTI-CYCLONIC BY 18Z...LIMITING THE MOISTURE DEPTH QUITE A BIT. WE SHOULD SEE SNOW SHOWERS DIMINISH BY SAT AFTERNOON...AND ANYTHING LEFT SPREADING INLAND ONCE AGAIN WITH THE WRLY WIND SETTING UP WITH THE SFC HIGH MOVING THOUGH. .LONG TERM...(SATURDAY NIGHT THROUGH WEDNESDAY) ISSUED AT 341 AM EST THU NOV 22 2012 MODEL DISCREPANCIES CONTINUE IN THE LONG TERM PERIOD...ESPECIALLY IN REGARD TO WHAT WOULD BE THE MOST SIGNIFICANT PRECIPITATION POTENTIAL DURING THE PERIOD...THE SYSTEM FOR NEXT TUESDAY. FIRST THOUGH A WEAK SYSTEM WILL PROGRESS EAST ACROSS THE NORTHERN GREAT LAKES SATURDAY NIGHT INTO SUNDAY. COULD BE A LITTLE LIGHT SNOW ACROSS CENTRAL LOWER...BUT NOT EXPECTING MUCH. FOCUS THEN SHIFTS TO A POTENTIAL SYSTEM FOR TUESDAY INTO TUESDAY NIGHT. THE GFS HAS A STRONGER MORE NORTHERN TRACK...WHILE THE ECMWF WOULD BE WELL SOUTH AND WEAKER. AT THIS POINT CONFIDENCE IS NOT HIGH IN WHICH SOLUTION IS MOST LIKELY TO VERIFY. GIVEN THE TYPICALLY BETTER TRACK RECORD OF THE ECMWF IN THE 4-7 DAY PERIOD WOULD LEAN TOWARD THE DRIER SOLUTION. THE GFS WOULD YIELD ACCUMULATING SNOW ACROSS THE FORECAST AREA. CHANCE POPS IN THE FORECAST AT THIS POINT. INTO WEDNESDAY THE ECMWF BRINGS A SHORTWAVE THROUGH ACCOMPANIED BY SOME LIGHT SNOW AND LAKE ENHANCEMENT. MODEL DISCREPANCIES CONTINUE INTO THIS TIME FRAME WITH THE GFS INDICATING DRY WX. SUFFICE IT TO SAY AN OVERALL LOW CONFIDENCE FORECAST IN THE LONG TERM. TEMPERATURES LOOK TO BE BELOW NORMAL THROUGH THE PERIOD. && .AVIATION...(FOR THE 18Z TAFS THROUGH 18Z FRIDAY AFTERNOON) ISSUED AT 1243 PM EST THU NOV 22 2012 MAIN AVIATION CONCERN THROUGH THIS AFTERNOON WILL BE THE SOUTHERLY WINDS WHICH WILL GUST 20 TO 25 KTS. THESE ARE EXPECTED TO TAPER OFF SOMEWHAT BY NIGHTFALL. A STRONG COLD WILL BRING IN LOWER CEILINGS ALONG WITH RAIN SHOWERS AND EVEN MORE WIND LATE TONIGHT. DUE TO THE AMOUNT OF MIXING EXPECTED...MOST LOCATIONS WILL ONLY DIP DOWN TO MVFR WITH VERY PATCHY IFR NEAR AND JUST BEHIND THE FRONT. CAN NOT COMPLETELY RULE OUT A THUNDERSTORM WITH THE FRONT...BUT HAVE LEFT THAT OUT OF THE TAFS AS ANY THUNDER SHOULD REMAIN VERY ISOLATED. A DRY SLOT IS EXPECTED TO ROLL IN AROUND DAYBREAK. SO WE WILL LIKELY SEE A PERIOD OF HIGHER CEILINGS AND VSBYS WITH THIS. HOWEVER AS COLDER AIR EVADES THE REGION THROUGH THE MID FRI MORNING HOURS LAKE EFFECT CLOUDS AND SNOW SHOWERS CAN BE EXPECTED. WITH WNW FLOW EXPECT SOME AREAS OF IFR TO DEVELOP IN LOWERING VSBYS AFTER ABOUT 14-16Z FRI. && .MARINE... ISSUED AT 1122 AM EST THU NOV 22 2012 I BROUGHT FORWARD IN TIME THE START OF THE GALE WARING FROM 10 PM TO 4 PM. THIS IDEA IS BASED ON THE LATEST DATA FROM BOTH THE NAM12 AND HRRR IT SEEMS TO ME THE WINDS WILL RAMP UP SOONER OVER LAKE MICHIGAN AND OUR NEAR SHORE WATERS. THE NAM12 SOUNDING AT MKG...BIV...LDM AND THE SOUTH BUOY SHOW 40 TO 45 KNOTS IN THE MIX LAYER BY 21Z. CLOUDS MAY BE AN ISSUE BUT AT 21Z I COULD SEE THERE NOT BEING A LOT OF CLOUDS YET. AS A RESULT I BROUGHT FORWARD IN TIME THE START OF THE GALE WARNING TO 4 PM FROM 10 PM. && .HYDROLOGY... ISSUED AT 341 AM EST THU NOV 22 2012 WE CONTINUE TO EXPECT NO HYDROLOGY ISSUES THROUGH THIS FCST PERIOD. WE ARE EXPECTING A QUICK SHOT OF RAINFALL WITH THE FRONT VERY LATE TODAY AND MORE SO TONIGHT. RAINFALL AMOUNTS SHOULD RANGE FROM A TENTH OR TWO UP NORTH...UP TO AS MUCH AS HALF AN INCH. RIVER AND STREAM LEVELS CONTINUE TO FLOW BELOW AVERAGE. SOME LAKE EFFECT SNOW SHOWERS WILL BE AROUND FRIDAY...BUT THIS SHOULD NOT HAVE A LOT OF WATER CONTENT IN IT. MINIMAL RISES CAN BE EXPECTED. && .GRR WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... MI...NONE. LM...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY UNTIL 4 PM EST THIS AFTERNOON FOR LMZ844>849. GALE WARNING FROM 4 PM THIS AFTERNOON TO 10 PM EST FRIDAY FOR LMZ844>849. && $$ UPDATE...WDM SYNOPSIS...NJJ SHORT TERM...NJJ LONG TERM...DUKE AVIATION...JK HYDROLOGY...NJJ MARINE...WDM
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS GRAND RAPIDS MI
1122 AM EST THU NOV 22 2012 .SYNOPSIS... ISSUED AT 341 AM EST THU NOV 22 2012 A WINDY AND WARM THANKSGIVING DAY IS ON TAP FOR LOWER MICHIGAN. TEMPERATURES WILL WARM INTO THE LOWER 60S AS GUSTY SOUTHERLY WINDS BRING THE WARM AIR UP INTO MICHIGAN. THE WARMER AIR WILL BE SHORT LIVED HOWEVER AS A STRONG COLD FRONT WILL MOVE THROUGH THE AREA LATE TONIGHT. RAIN SHOWERS AND EVEN A SLIGHT CHANCE OF A RUMBLE OF THUNDER WILL BE POSSIBLE. THE COLDER AIR WILL FILTER INTO THE AREA DURING THE DAY ON FRIDAY. TEMPERATURES WILL FALL THROUGH THE DAY INTO THE 30S. RAIN SHOWERS WILL CHANGE OVER TO SNOW SHOWERS. SOME LIGHT ACCUMULATIONS WILL BE POSSIBLE FOR THE LAKESHORE COMMUNITIES. && .UPDATE... ISSUED AT 1122 AM EST THU NOV 22 2012 I DID SOME SIGNIFICANT GRID UPDATES LATE THIS MORNING. I UPDATED THE START OF THE GALE WARNING AND I INCREASED THE POP FOR BOTH TONIGHT AND FRIDAY. BASED ON THE LATEST DATA FROM BOTH THE NAM12 AND HRRR IT SEEMS TO ME THE WINDS WILL RAMP UP SOONER OVER LAKE MICHIGAN AND OUR NEAR SHORE WATERS. THE NAM12 SOUNDING AT MKG...BIV...LDM AND THE SOUTH BUOY SHOW 40 TO 45 KNOTS IN THE MIX LAYER BY 21Z. CLOUDS MAY BE AN ISSUE BUT AT 21Z I COULD SEE THERE NOT BEING A LOT OF CLOUDS YET. AS A RESULT I BROUGHT FORWARD IN TIME THE START OF THE GALE WARNING TO 4 PM FROM 10 PM. THE NAM12 IS NOW SHOWING DEEPER MOISTURE FOR BOTH THE PRECIPITATION EVENT TONIGHT AND THE LAKE ENHANCED SNOW FOR FRIDAY AFTERNOON INTO SATURDAY MORNING. FOR THE MOST PART MY POP GRID IS REALLY BASED ON THE LIFT IN THE SATURATED DGZ GRID FROM THE NAM12. THAT HAS TIME AND AGAIN SHOWN ME TO BE THE MOST RELIABLE TOOL FOR FORECASTING PRECIPITATION (RAIN/SNOW AND EVEN TIMING OF THUNDERSTORMS IF THAT IS APPROPRIATE). THE SOUTHERN STREAM MOISTURE (SEEN WELL ON THE WATER VAPOR LOOPS) IS STREAMING NORTHEAST AND WILL RUN INTO THE FRONTAL ZONE LIFT BY MID AFTERNOON. THIS SHOULD HAVE NO PROBLEM SPARKING SHOWERS AND ISOLATED THUNDERSTORMS AS THERE IS A 50 - 70 KNOT LOW LEVEL JET WITH PRECIPITABLE WATER VALUES OVER 300 PCT OF NORMAL JUST AHEAD OF THE FRONT. I SEE NO REASON WHY I SHOULD NOT GO CONDITIONAL GIVEN THE DEEP MOISTURE...STRONG LIFT AND STRONG FRONT WITH A GOOD SOUTHERN STREAM SHORTWAVE. AS FOR FRIDAY... THERE IS NOW BETTER LIFT IN THE DGZ ON THE NAM12 FOR THE LAKE EFFECT SNOW EVENT FRIDAY INTO FRIDAY NIGHT. I HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS MORE CLOSELY BY WE MAY HAVE TO INCREASE SNOWFALL AMOUNTS. && .SHORT TERM...(TODAY THROUGH SATURDAY) ISSUED AT 341 AM EST THU NOV 22 2012 MAIN CHALLENGES IN THE SHORT TERM PORTION OF THE FCST REVOLVE AROUND RAIN CHANCES TONIGHT...AND LAKE EFFECT TRENDS FRI THROUGH SAT. THE ONLY REAL CHANGE TO THE FCST WAS TO SLIP A SLIGHT CHC MENTION OF THUNDER IN THE FCST FOR LATE THIS AFTERNOON AND EVENING. MANY OBSERVATIONS THIS MORNING ARE TRYING TO DROP THE VISIBILITIES IN FOG. SITES ARE DOWN TO BETWEEN 1-4SM. THEY HAVE STABILIZED AS IT APPEARS THE WINDS ALOFT...AND RESIDUAL BREEZE AT THE SURFACE ARE KEEPING CONDITIONS FROM DROPPING TOO MUCH. WE DO NOT EXPECT TO HAVE TO ISSUE ANY FOG HEADLINES THIS MORNING. THE FIRST 2/3RDS OF THE DAY TODAY LOOKS QUITE NICE. WE SHOULD SEE A GOOD DEAL OF SUNSHINE INTO THE FIRST PORTION OF THE AFTERNOON WITH ONLY SOME HIGH CLOUDS MOVING THROUGH. IT WILL BE BREEZY WITH WIND GUSTS APPROACHING 30 MPH IF NOT ECLIPSING IT AT TIMES. WE WILL SEE THE MOISTURE TRANSPORT PICK UP SIGNIFICANTLY BETWEEN 18Z AND 00Z TONIGHT AS THE LOW LEVEL JET AXIS MOVES OVERHEAD. WE SHOULD SEE THE MOSTLY SUNNY SKIES TURN MOSTLY CLOUDY PRETTY QUICK LATER THIS AFTERNOON. DEEP ENOUGH MOISTURE IS FOUND ACROSS THE WRN COUNTIES WHERE ANY RAIN THAT FORMS COULD REACH THE GROUND BY 00Z. THE BEST THREAT OF RAIN WILL COME BETWEEN 00Z AND 09Z TONIGHT...AND ACROSS THE SE 2/3RDS OF THE CWFA. THIS IS WHERE THE DEEPEST MOISTURE COMES TOGETHER DUE TO THE WAY THE UPPER MOISTURE ADVECTS INTO THE AREA AHEAD OF THE WAVE. AS MENTIONED ABOVE...WE HAVE ADDED THUNDER TO THE FCST. MODELS ARE INDICATING A LITTLE MORE ELEVATED INSTABILITY PRESENT THAN 24 HOURS AGO. SEVERE THREAT SHOULD REMAIN RATHER LOW DUE TO THE GENERAL NATURE OF THE ELEVATED INSTABILITY. THE STRONG LOW LEVEL JET IS SOME CAUSE FOR CONCERN AS IT WOULDN/T TAKE MUCH TO MIX IT DOWN. HOWEVER...ONCE AGAIN THE ELEVATED NATURE OF THE INSTABILITY SHOULD LIMIT THE SEVERE POTENTIAL. WE WILL SEE THE DRY SLOT TRAVERSE THE AREA BETWEEN 09Z AND 15Z FRI. AFTER 15Z...WE SEE THE WRAP AROUND MOISTURE ROTATE BACK IN ACROSS THE AREA. H850 TEMPS DROP PRETTY QUICK AT THIS TIME TO EVENTUALLY AROUND -10C. WE EXPECT THAT THE WRAP AROUND MOISTURE WILL START OUT AS SOME RAIN AND/OR SNOW SHOWERS THAT WILL TRANSITION TO ALL SNOW SHOWERS PRETTY QUICKLY. A FEW SCATTERED SYNOPTIC SNOW SHOWERS WILL REMAIN POSSIBLE. THE FOCUS WILL TURN ON LAKE EFFECT BY LATE FRI AFTERNOON. DELTA T/S WILL BE APPROACHING 20C. WE WILL HAVE CYCLONIC FLOW ALOFT. MOISTURE WILL BE SOMEWHAT LIMITED...WITH INVERSION HEIGHTS AROUND 7-8K FT. THE BEST LIFT IS BELOW THE DGZ SO WE DO NOT EXPECT SIGNIFICANT SNOW RATES. THE FLOW WILL TRANSITION FROM WNW TO PURE NW BY 00Z SAT. THIS WILL LAST INTO THE FIRST HALF OF SAT. WE ARE EXPECTING THAT A COUPLE OF LOCATIONS MAY SEE AN INCH OR TWO FROM LATE FRI INTO MIDDAY SAT. THE UPPER LOW WILL LIFT OUT OF THE AREA SAT AFTERNOON. THE UPPER FLOW BECOMES ANTI-CYCLONIC BY 18Z...LIMITING THE MOISTURE DEPTH QUITE A BIT. WE SHOULD SEE SNOW SHOWERS DIMINISH BY SAT AFTERNOON...AND ANYTHING LEFT SPREADING INLAND ONCE AGAIN WITH THE WRLY WIND SETTING UP WITH THE SFC HIGH MOVING THOUGH. .LONG TERM...(SATURDAY NIGHT THROUGH WEDNESDAY) ISSUED AT 341 AM EST THU NOV 22 2012 MODEL DISCREPANCIES CONTINUE IN THE LONG TERM PERIOD...ESPECIALLY IN REGARD TO WHAT WOULD BE THE MOST SIGNIFICANT PRECIPITATION POTENTIAL DURING THE PERIOD...THE SYSTEM FOR NEXT TUESDAY. FIRST THOUGH A WEAK SYSTEM WILL PROGRESS EAST ACROSS THE NORTHERN GREAT LAKES SATURDAY NIGHT INTO SUNDAY. COULD BE A LITTLE LIGHT SNOW ACROSS CENTRAL LOWER...BUT NOT EXPECTING MUCH. FOCUS THEN SHIFTS TO A POTENTIAL SYSTEM FOR TUESDAY INTO TUESDAY NIGHT. THE GFS HAS A STRONGER MORE NORTHERN TRACK...WHILE THE ECMWF WOULD BE WELL SOUTH AND WEAKER. AT THIS POINT CONFIDENCE IS NOT HIGH IN WHICH SOLUTION IS MOST LIKELY TO VERIFY. GIVEN THE TYPICALLY BETTER TRACK RECORD OF THE ECMWF IN THE 4-7 DAY PERIOD WOULD LEAN TOWARD THE DRIER SOLUTION. THE GFS WOULD YIELD ACCUMULATING SNOW ACROSS THE FORECAST AREA. CHANCE POPS IN THE FORECAST AT THIS POINT. INTO WEDNESDAY THE ECMWF BRINGS A SHORTWAVE THROUGH ACCOMPANIED BY SOME LIGHT SNOW AND LAKE ENHANCEMENT. MODEL DISCREPANCIES CONTINUE INTO THIS TIME FRAME WITH THE GFS INDICATING DRY WX. SUFFICE IT TO SAY AN OVERALL LOW CONFIDENCE FORECAST IN THE LONG TERM. TEMPERATURES LOOK TO BE BELOW NORMAL THROUGH THE PERIOD. && .AVIATION...(FOR THE 12Z TAFS THROUGH 12Z FRIDAY MORNING) ISSUED AT 649 AM EST THU NOV 22 2012 FOG GENERALLY BETWEEN 1-4SM ACROSS THE AREA WILL LIFT FAIRLY QUICK AFTER SUNRISE. EXPECT ALL SITES TO BE VFR BY 15Z OR SO. SKIES WILL BE MAINLY CLEAR THROUGH MID AFTERNOON. THE WIND WILL BE THE MAIN WEATHER ISSUE TODAY WITH SOUTH-SOUTHWEST WINDS OF 13-25 KNOTS THROUGH THE COURSE OF THE DAY. RAIN SHOWERS WILL BREAK OUT ACROSS THE AREA BETWEEN 21Z AND 00Z...SPREADING EAST WITH TIME. A RUMBLE OF THUNDER CANNOT BE RULED OUT BETWEEN 22Z AND 05Z...BUT THE THREAT IS TOO LOW TO INCLUDE IN THE TAFS AT THIS TIME. CEILINGS WILL BE VFR THIS EVENING BEFORE DROPPING TO MVFR AFTER 05Z. && .MARINE... ISSUED AT 1122 AM EST THU NOV 22 2012 I BROUGHT FORWARD IN TIME THE START OF THE GALE WARING FROM 10 PM TO 4 PM. THIS IDEA IS BASED ON THE LATEST DATA FROM BOTH THE NAM12 AND HRRR IT SEEMS TO ME THE WINDS WILL RAMP UP SOONER OVER LAKE MICHIGAN AND OUR NEAR SHORE WATERS. THE NAM12 SOUNDING AT MKG...BIV...LDM AND THE SOUTH BUOY SHOW 40 TO 45 KNOTS IN THE MIX LAYER BY 21Z. CLOUDS MAY BE AN ISSUE BUT AT 21Z I COULD SEE THERE NOT BEING A LOT OF CLOUDS YET. AS A RESULT I BROUGHT FORWARD IN TIME THE START OF THE GALE WARNING TO 4 PM FROM 10 PM. && .HYDROLOGY... ISSUED AT 341 AM EST THU NOV 22 2012 WE CONTINUE TO EXPECT NO HYDROLOGY ISSUES THROUGH THIS FCST PERIOD. WE ARE EXPECTING A QUICK SHOT OF RAINFALL WITH THE FRONT VERY LATE TODAY AND MORE SO TONIGHT. RAINFALL AMOUNTS SHOULD RANGE FROM A TENTH OR TWO UP NORTH...UP TO AS MUCH AS HALF AN INCH. RIVER AND STREAM LEVELS CONTINUE TO FLOW BELOW AVERAGE. SOME LAKE EFFECT SNOW SHOWERS WILL BE AROUND FRIDAY...BUT THIS SHOULD NOT HAVE A LOT OF WATER CONTENT IN IT. MINIMAL RISES CAN BE EXPECTED. && .GRR WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... MI...NONE. LM...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY UNTIL 4 PM EST THIS AFTERNOON FOR LMZ844>849. GALE WARNING FROM 4 PM THIS AFTERNOON TO 10 PM EST FRIDAY FOR LMZ844>849. && $$ UPDATE...WDM SYNOPSIS...NJJ SHORT TERM...NJJ LONG TERM...DUKE AVIATION...DUKE HYDROLOGY...NJJ MARINE...WDM
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS TWIN CITIES/CHANHASSEN MN
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
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS BILLINGS MT
922 AM MST THU NOV 22 2012 .SHORT TERM...VALID FOR TDY AND FRI... CANADIAN COLD FRONT AND ASSOCIATED PRESSURE RISES SURGING MUCH FURTHER WEST THAN PREVIOUSLY THOUGHT. COLD AIR HAS PUSHED THROUGH JUDITH GAP WHERE TEMP MADE AN 11 DEGREE DROP FROM 31F TO 20F LAST HOUR. STRONG COLD ADVECTION FURTHER EAST IS NOT QUITE TO MILES CITY AND BAKER BUT WILL BE BEFORE MIDDAY. WITH TEMPS LARGELY IN THE TEENS UPSTREAM...EXPECT A FAIRLY DRAMATIC TEMPERATURE DROP ESPECIALLY IN OUR EAST. PER LOCATION OF UPSTREAM PRESSURE RISES...THINK THIS FROPA WILL HAVE SOME IMPACT AT BILLINGS AS WELL. FOR BILLINGS...EXPECT A SHIFT TO NORTH THEN EVENTUALLY NORTHEAST WINDS THIS AFTERNOON...AND AN ASSOCIATED TEMPERATURE DROP TO MAYBE THE LOW 30S/UPPER 20S AFTER A MIDDAY HIGH IN THE LOW 40S. AS FOR PCPN...TROWAL WRAPPING SOUTHWARD THROUGH NORTHERN MT WILL BRING SOME LIGHT SNOW SHOWERS TO OUR EASTERN PARTS...WITH STRONGEST ASCENT PER THE RAP EXPECTED TO BE FROM ABOUT 18-23Z. GIVEN MOISTENING OF DENDRITIC LAYER WHICH WILL FALL TO THE SFC...COULD BE A DUSTING IN PLACES MAINLY EAST OF HYSHAM AND LAME DEER. AREAS FROM FORSYTH TO BAKER HAVE ALSO EXPERIENCED SOME STRATUS THIS MORNING PER ADVECTION FROM THE NW. WEB CAMS HAVE SHOWN SOME VSBY REDUCTIONS OVER THE HILLS OUT THAT WAY. NW WINDS WILL BE QUITE GUSTY THIS AFTERNOON ESPECIALLY ACROSS OUR EAST...WITH CORE OF STRONGEST BOUNDARY LAYER WINDS PUSHING INTO THE DAKOTAS. LOOKS LIKE WIDESPREAD 35-45 MPH GUSTS EAST OF BILLINGS. CURRENT FORECAST HAS COVERED WELL. ANY -SHSN ACTIVITY SHOULD BE OVER BY LATE AFTERNOON...LEADING TO A DRY NIGHT TONIGHT WITH MUCH COLDER TEMPS/LIGHTER WINDS AS SFC RIDGE BUILDS IN. WILL HAVE TO SEE HOW FAR WEST COLD ADVECTION PUSHES DURING THE DAY AS THIS WILL IMPACT LOWS TONIGHT AND LOCATION OF LEE SIDE TROF WHEN IT DEVELOPS. JKL .LONG TERM...VALID FOR SAT...SUN...MON...TUE...WED... EXTENDED MODELS IN OVERALL AGREEMENT WITH LARGE-SCALE FEATURES BUT DIFFER IN SOME PARTICULAR DETAILS. A STRONG COLD FRONT WILL SWEEP ACROSS THE FORECAST AREA LATE SATURDAY AFTERNOON INTO SATURDAY EVENING. AHEAD OF THE FRONT...EXPECT GUSTY SOUTHWEST TO WEST WINDS ALONG WITH DOWNSLOPE WARMING...ALTHOUGH TEMPERATURES WILL NOT WARM TOO MUCH. HIGH TEMPERATURES WILL BE TRICKY DEPENDING ON TIMING OF THE FRONT BUT MOST PLACES SHOULD RISE INTO THE UPPER 30S TO LOWER 40S. THE FRONT WILL BRING RAIN AND SNOW SHOWERS WITH THE PRECIP CHANGING TO ALL SNOW BY LATE SATURDAY NIGHT. AN EASTERLY UPSLOPE FLOW AND FRONTOGENESIS BAND DEVELOP LATE SATURDAY NIGHT THROUGH SUNDAY ACROSS MOST OF THE FORECAST AREA BUT ESPECIALLY ALONG THE EASTERN SLOPES OF THE BEARTOOTH/ABSAROKA MOUNTAINS TO THE BIG HORNS. THE AREA SHOULD SEE WIDESPREAD SNOW LATE SATURDAY NIGHT THROUGH THE ENTIRE DAY SUNDAY BEFORE TAPERING OFF BY MONDAY MORNING. AT THIS TIME...ADVISORY TYPE ACCUMULATIONS LOOK LIKELY FOR MANY LOCATIONS. TEMPERATURES ARE NOT VERY COLD WITH THIS SYSTEM RESULTING IN SNOW RATIOS AROUND 10:1 FOR MOST OF THE EVENT WITH SOME HIGHER RATIOS SUNDAY NIGHT. THE SYSTEM LOOKS TO BE DIFFERENT FROM WHAT OUR AREA USUALLY SEES WITH A COLD FRONT AND SNOW IN THAT TEMPERATURES ARE NOT EXPECTED TO GET VERY COLD LIKE USUALLY IS THE CASE WITH A FRONT DROPPING OUT OF CANADA THIS TIME OF YEAR. TEMPERATURES MONDAY ARE STILL EXPECTED TO REBOUND INTO THE UPPER 20S TO LOWER 30S AFTER MORNING LOWS IN THE TEENS. UNSETTLED NORTHWEST FLOW ALOFT LOOKS TO BE OVER THE FORECAST AREA TUESDAY INTO WEDNESDAY WITH A POSSIBLE RIDGE AND WARMER TEMPERATURES BUT LATE NEXT WEEK. HOOLEY && .AVIATION... REINFORCING COLD FRONT LOCATED FROM LEWISTOWN TO SOUTH OF MILES CITY AND BAKER WILL CONTINUE TO SLIDE SOUTH TODAY. FRONT WILL LIKELY BACK TO A POSITION JUST EAST OF LIVINGSTON AND ALONG THE BEARTOOTH FRONT BEFORE BECOMING STATIONARY THIS EVENING. LOW LEVEL MOISTURE WILL BRING WIDESPREAD MVFR TO OCCASIONAL IFR CEILINGS BEHIND THIS FRONT...ALONG WITH SCATTERED SNOW SHOWERS EAST OF A ROUNDUP TO HARDIN LINE. TO THE WEST OF THE FRONT WEST TO NORTHWEST WINDS WILL BE GUST TO AROUND 30 KTS AT TIMES...WHILE A NORTH TO NORTHEAST WIND WILL FILL IN BEHIND THE FRONT. FOR KMLS TAF LOCATION...IFR VISIBILITY FOG HAS DEVELOPED BEHIND THE RECENT COLD FRONTAL PASSAGE. EXPECT THIS FOG TO LIFT AS SCATTERED SNOW SHOWERS MOVE INTO THE AREA BY MID DAY. HOWEVER AN MVFR TO IFR STRATUS CEILING WILL PERSIST...LIKELY THROUGH LATE TONIGHT. FOR KBIL TAF LOCATION...COLD FRONT WAS 50NM TO THE NORTH OF THE AIRPORT AT 16Z. WEST WINDS GUSTING TO 30 KTS WILL PERSIST UNTIL FRONTAL PASSAGE...AROUND 19Z. ONCE THE FRONT MOVES THROUGH EXPECT WINDS TO TURN NORTHEASTERLY AND MVFR CEILING TO DEVELOP. MVFR CEILINGS WILL PERSIST THROUGH LATE TONIGHT. CHAMBERS && .PRELIMINARY POINT TEMP/POPS... TDY FRI SAT SUN MON TUE WED ------------------------------------------------------- BIL 041 022/051 037/051 031/034 020/031 016/035 021/040 0/N 00/B 04/W 67/S 73/J 12/J 32/W LVM 038 022/050 038/046 028/033 018/031 014/033 022/039 0/N 00/N 06/W 78/S 74/J 12/J 32/W HDN 043 017/051 030/052 030/036 020/032 014/035 020/041 1/N 00/B 04/W 67/S 73/J 11/B 22/W MLS 032 011/040 028/049 028/030 017/028 014/031 020/036 3/J 00/B 02/W 46/S 42/J 11/B 21/B 4BQ 038 011/044 029/052 029/035 018/029 014/033 020/039 3/J 00/U 02/W 67/S 63/J 11/B 21/B BHK 032 007/036 026/047 025/027 015/026 013/029 018/036 3/J 00/U 00/B 36/S 41/E 11/B 11/B SHR 038 015/049 028/052 027/033 018/029 011/032 018/041 2/J 00/U 03/W 67/S 73/J 11/B 22/W && .BYZ WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... MT...NONE. WY...NONE. && $$ WEATHER.GOV/BILLINGS
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS NORTH PLATTE NE
238 PM CST THU NOV 22 2012 .DISCUSSION... THE ARCTIC FRONT APPEARS TO BE ENTERING NWRN SD THIS AFTN. THE LATEST NAM AND RAP SOLNS SHOW THIS FRONT DROPPING THRU NCNTL NEB THIS EVENING WITH WINDS ALOFT INCREASING TO 65KT AT 700MB...50KT AT 850MB AND 25 TO 30KT AT 500M AGL. SO SFC WINDS COULD RUN 25 TO 30 MPH ALONG THE FRONT AND POTENTIAL GUSTS TO 45 MPH. THUS THE WIND ADVISORY WILL BE EXTENDED ACROSS PARTS OF NCNTL NEB TONIGHT IN ANTICIPATION OF THIS FRONTAL PASSAGE. ARCTIC HIGH PRESSURE SLIDES THROUGH THE MISSOURI BASIN FRIDAY AND INTO THE MID SOUTH BY SATURDAY MORNING. WITH THE ARCTIC HIGH BUILDING THROUGH THE MISSOURI BASIN...THE COLD CORE NEVER REACHES FAR WESTERN NEB SO A QUICK TEMPERATURE REBOUND CAN OCCUR SATURDAY AS NEW LOW PRESSURE TRACKS THROUGH SRN SASKATCHEWAN AND MANITOBA TURNING TO THE WEST ACROSS THE FCST AREA. THIS LOW THEN DROPS ANOTHER ARCTIC FRONT INTO SOUTH DAKOTA SUNDAY WITH NW FLOW ALOFT MAINTAINING A BAROCLINIC ZONE AND WEAK MID LEVEL FRONTOGENESIS DEVELOPING. THE SFC FRONT IS FCST TO DROP THROUGH NRN NEB SUNDAY AFTERNOON AND THE MODELS SUGGEST SUFFICIENT LOW LEVEL MOISTURE FOR A CHANCE OF LIGHT RAIN OR SNOW SUNDAY AFTERNOON CHANGING TO SNOW SUNDAY NIGHT AND ENDING MONDAY MORNING. LIGHT ACCUMULATIONS WOULD DEVELOP GIVEN THE FLEETING NATURE OF THE MID LEVEL FRONT...THE OPEN WAVE AT 700MB SHOWN BY ALL MODELS AND 250 MB JET MAX MOVING THROUGH SRN NEB. WEAK ARCTIC HIGH PRESSURE MOVES QUICKLY THROUGH THE FCST AREA TUESDAY FOLLOWED BY ANOTHER LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM TRACKING ALONG THE CANADIAN BORDER WEDNESDAY. THIS SYSTEM WILL PULL ANOTHER FAST MOVING ARCTIC HIGH PRESSURE SYSTEM INTO THE FCST AREA FOR NEXT THURSDAY. SAVE FOR ISOLATED FLURRIES WITH THE ARCTIC FRONT TONIGHT AND LIGHT SNOW POSSIBLE LATE SUNDAY AND MONDAY MORNING...THE FORECAST IS DRY. TEMPERATURES RANGE FROM 30S AND 40S NORTHEAST TO 40S AND 50S SOUTHWEST. && .AVIATION... WINDS WILL CONTINUE TO BE THE PRIMARY AVIATION CONCERN THROUGH FRIDAY. STRONG NORTHWEST TO NORTHERLY WINDS WILL CONTINUE THROUGH THEN AFTERNOON AS A TIGHT PRESSURE GRADIENT AND GOOD MIXING OCCURS ACROSS THE AREA. WINDS WILL DIMINISH FOR A PERIOD THIS EVENING... THEN EXPECT ANOTHER INCREASE IN WINDS LATER IN THE EVENING AND INTO THE OVERNIGHT PERIODS /ROUGHLY 03Z TO 08Z/ AS A FRONT MOVES THROUGH THE REGION FROM NORTH TO SOUTH. THE STRONGEST WINDS ARE EXPECTED OVER NORTH CENTRAL NEBRASKA...INCLUDING THE KVTN TAF SITE. WINDS IN THESE AREAS COULD AGAIN GUST UP TO 45 MPH. WINDS WILL DIMINISH BY MORNING WITH BENIGN AVIATION WEATHER CONDITIONS FOR FRIDAY. && .FIRE WEATHER... OBSERVATIONS ACROSS WESTERN NEBRASKA HAVE GOTTEN NEAR RED FLAG CRITERIA THIS AFTERNOON AS WINDS GUSTED BETWEEN 35 AND 45 MPH...WHILE DEW POINTS DROPPING INTO THE SINGLE DIGITS AND LOW TEENS LOWERED RELATIVE HUMIDITY INTO THE UPPER TEENS AND LOW 20S. HOWEVER...COLDER AIR WAS IN PLACE...WITH TEMPERATURES ONLY IN THE MID AND UPPER 40S. ALTHOUGH CONDITIONS ARE CLOSE...AND MAY EVEN HIT CRITERIA IN LOCALIZED SPOTS FOR A FEW HOURS...THESE LOWER TEMPERATURES WILL KEEP FROM ISSUING A SHORT FUSED RED FLAG WARNING FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE AFTERNOON. THAT BEING SAID...WITH THE STRONG WINDS...ANY FIRES WILL STILL HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO SPREAD RAPIDLY THIS AFTERNOON. BEYOND TODAY...SATURDAY COULD SEE ELEVATED FIRE WEATHER CONDITIONS WITH RELATIVE HUMIDITY DROPPING INTO THE UPPER TEENS AND 20S...HOWEVER WINDS ARE ONLY FORECAST AT 15 TO 20 MPH AT THE PEAK. OTHERWISE THE REMAINDER OF THE NEXT 7 DAYS SHOULD BE QUIET FOR FIRE CONCERNS. && .LBF WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...WIND ADVISORY UNTIL 6 PM CST /5 PM MST/ THIS EVENING FOR NEZ004-022>024-035>037-056>059-069>071-094. WIND ADVISORY UNTIL 4 AM CST FRIDAY FOR NEZ005>010-025>029-038. && $$ SHORT TERM/EXTENDED...CDC AVIATION...BROOKS