Forecast Discussions mentioning any of "HRRR" "RAP" "RR" "RUC13" "RUC" received at GSD on 11/06/12


AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS JACKSONVILLE FL
410 AM EST SUN NOV 4 2012 ...DENSE FOG TO AFFECT MOST OF THE FORECAST AREA THIS MORNING... ...HIGH RAIN CHANCES LATE MON NIGHT INTO TUESDAY... .CURRENTLY...WEAK BROAD HIGH PRES IS OVER THE ERN GULF OF MEXICO PRODUCING A WEAK WLY FLOW OVER THE REGION AND ADVECTION OF MOISTURE OFF THE GULF OF MEXICO AGAIN LATE TONIGHT. STRONG INVERSION PRESENT PER HRRR GUIDANCE SOUNDINGS OVER THE AREA AND AS A RESULT ADVECTIVE FOG EVENT TONIGHT WITH FOG LIKELY TO BE WIDESPREAD INTO THE MID MORNING HOURS OVER S HALF OF THE FORECAST AREA. A DENSE FOG ADVISORY HAS BEEN ISSUED FOR NE FL...AND MAY BE EXPANDED IN SE GA LATER THIS MORNING. TEMPS MOSTLY IN THE 50S...WITH COUPLE OF LOWER 60S READINGS IN OVER PARTS OF SE GA. FURTHER N...SFC LOW IS OVER ERN TN VALLEY AREA WITH TRAILING COLD FRONT TO CENTRAL MS AND NRN LA WITH SCT CONVECTION ALONG THE BOUNDARY OVER WRN AL TO NE LA. && .SHORT TERM... TODAY...EARLY MORNING FOG AND STRATUS WILL AFFECT A LARGE PERCENTAGE OF THE FORECAST AREA THROUGH MID MORNING BEFORE BURNING OFF. SFC FLOW WILL PREVAIL W TO SW TODAY AHEAD OF THE APPROACHING FRONT FROM THE NW. THE FRONT WILL MOVE INTO SE GA BY LATE AFTN PROVIDING A FOCUS FOR MAINLY ISOLATED CONVECTION OVER GA AFTER ABOUT 3 PM. AN ISOLATED STRONG STORM POSSIBLE IN SE GA PER SPC OUTLOOK BUT OVERALL THREAT LOOKS LIMITED OWING TO RATHER WEAK INSTABILITY. PWATS REMAINING GENERALLY 1 INCH OR LESS. TONIGHT...BOTH NAM AND GFS SIMILAR IN TIMING THE FRONT PUSHING SWD INTO THE FORECAST AREA TO A LINE FROM ABOUT SAINT AUGUSTINE TO GAINESVILLE BY 12Z MONDAY. RAIN CHANCES GENERALLY 30-40% IN SE GA AND 20-30% IN NE FL AS THE UPPER SUPPORT REMAINS WEAK AS THE FRONTAL SYSTEM DIPS SWD. SLIGHT THUNDER CHANCES NEAR THE SE GA COAST AND COASTAL WATERS. LATE IN THE NIGHT...ADVECTIVE FOG POSSIBLE ONCE AGAIN OFF THE GULF BUT FURTHER S MAINLY FROM GNV-ST AUGUSTINE SWD. LOWS IN THE 50S EXPECTED. MONDAY...THE COLD FRONT IS LIKELY TO MOVE INTO N CENTRAL FL WITH SFC HIGH PRES MOVING IN FROM THE NE. ONLY SLIGHT RAIN CHANCES DUE TO LINGERING FRONT NEAR THE AREA OVER THE S ZONES. HIGHS FALL BACK INTO THE 70S MOST AREAS WITH POSSIBLE NEAR 80 DEG READINGS EXTREME S ZONES AS THE FRONT PUSHES DOWN THROUGH N AND CENTRAL FL. MONDAY NIGHT...RAPID CHANGES UNDERWAY AS STRONG POSITIVE TILT SHORTWAVE TROUGH MOVES IN FROM THE MS VALLEY AND INTO THE SE STATES. THIS WILL GENERATE BROAD SFC LOW OVER THE NERN GULF ALONG THE BAROCLINIC ZONE AND IMPRESSIVE Q-VECTOR CONVERGENCE FIELD MOVING INTO THE OUR CWA BY 12Z TUE. ANTICIPATE POPS INCREASE TO NEAR 50-60% FROM W TO E BY EARLY MORNING HOURS. TUESDAY...BOTH GFS AND ECMWF MOVE STRONG 500 MB TROUGH JUST W OF THE AREA TO THE SE U.S. COAST BY TUE EVENING. SFC LOW PROGGED TO BE IN THE FL PANHANDLE TUE MORNING WITH WARM FRONT EXTENDING EWD OVER OUR NE FL AND INTO THE ATLC. SFC LOW EXPECTED TO SHIFT EWD QUICKLY AND OFF THE COAST BY LATER IN THE DAY...AND TAKE OFF TO THE NE WITH TRAILING FRONT PUSHING SEWD OF THE AREA IN THE AFTN. CONFIDENCE HAS RISEN WITH LIKELY POPS OVER THE ENTIRE FCST AREA...AND MAY BE BUMPED TO CATEGORICAL POPS (AT LEAST 80%) IN LATER FCSTS. WHILE THUNDERSTORM POTENTIAL REMAINS LIMITED DUE TO WEAK INSTABILITY...STRONG LIFT AND COLD TEMPS ALOFT AT -18C SUGGEST INCLUDING SLIGHT TSTMS CHANCE OVER AT LEAST THE SRN 2/3RDS OF THE AREA. TEMPS MAY HOLD STEADY IN THE 60S TO NEAR 70...BUT COULD HOLD IN THE UPPER 50S N ZONES IF CLOUDS ARE SLOWER TO CLEAR OUT. TUE NIGHT...LOW POPS RESERVED FOR EARLY EVENING OVER THE ERN ZONES AS WRAP AROUND PRECIP IS POSSIBLE. AS LOW PRES MOVES NE OF THE AREA HIGH PRES WILL BUILD IN WITH COLDER TEMPS EXPECTED IN THE 40S. WIND CHILLS IN THE 30S POSSIBLE OVER SE GA. && .LONG TERM...WED-SAT. DEEP LAYER TROUGH OVER THE ERN U.S. EXPECTED TO SHIFT EWD ALLOWING STACKED HIGH PRES RIDGE TO MOVE INTO THE ERN U.S. BY EARLY SAT. THE SFC HIGH LOCATED OVER MS VALLEY WED AND EARLY THU WILL PRODUCE OCNL BREEZY NW FLOW THEN SFC HIGH PROGGED TO MOVE OFFSHORE BY LATE FRI THROUGH SAT RESULTING VEERING/WEAK WINDS. TEMPS EXPECTED TO BE BELOW NORMAL SEVERAL DEGS WED AND THU WITH A MODERATING TREND BY FRI AND SAT AS UPPER RIDING MOVES INTO THE FORECAST AREA. WIDESPREAD LOW TEMPS IN THE 40S EXPECTED WED...THU AND FRI MORNINGS. POPS WILL BE 10% OR LESS DURING THE PERIOD. && .AVIATION... DENSE FOG BANK FROM THE GULF OF MEXICO WILL CONTINUE TO SPREAD EAST ACROSS NORTHEAST FLORIDA EARLY THIS MORNING. ONGOING VLIFR CONDITIONS AT GNV AND VQQ WILL CONTINUE UNTIL ABOUT MID MORNING. DENSE FOG BANK WILL REACH JAX AND CRG JUST PRIOR TO SUNRISE WITH POOR CONDITIONS EXPECTED AT THOSE TERMINALS FOR A PERIOD OF SEVERAL HOURS BEYOND SUNRISE. CONDITIONS WILL IMPROVE MID MORNING WITH VFR CONDITIONS THEN EXPECTED THROUGH THIS EVENING. ANOTHER ROUND OF DENSE FOG WILL BE MOST LIKELY AT GNV TONIGHT WITH THE LATEST DATA SUGGESTING DENSE FOG WILL REMAIN JUST SOUTH OF THE JACKSONVILLE TERMINALS. && .MARINE... HIGH PRESSURE WILL SHIFT EAST OF THE AREA TODAY. SOUTHWEST WINDS WILL INCREASE BY THIS EVENING AS THE GRADIENT TIGHTENS AHEAD OF AN APPROACHING COLD FRONT. WINDS WILL NEAR CAUTION SPEEDS OFFSHORE TONIGHT AND A SCEC HEADLINE WILL PROBABLY BE NEEDED. WINDS WILL VEER TO THE NORTH AND INCREASE TO 15 TO 20 KNOTS BEHIND THE FRONT ON MONDAY. A SURFACE LOW WILL DEVELOP ALONG THE CENTRAL GULF OF MEXICO MONDAY NIGHT AND THEN MOVE ACROSS THE NORTHERN FLORIDA WATERS ON TUESDAY. NORTHERLY WINDS WILL INCREASE TO SCA LEVELS ACROSS THE SOUTHERN GEORGIA WATERS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE LOW TUESDAY AFTERNOON. THESE CONDITIONS WILL THEN SPREAD SOUTH ACROSS THE FLORIDA WATERS TUESDAY EVENING AS THE LOW PULLS OFF TO THE NORTHEAST AND A STRONG COLD FRONT CONTINUES TO SHIFT SOUTH ACROSS THE AREA. RIP CURRENTS: LOW RISK TODAY AN INCREASE TO MODERATE RISK BY TUESDAY DUE TO INCREASING ONSHORE WINDS. && .PRELIMINARY POINT TEMPS/POPS... AMG 83 52 71 51 / 30 40 10 60 SSI 79 58 70 56 / 20 40 20 60 JAX 83 57 73 55 / 10 20 20 50 SGJ 81 59 74 59 / 10 20 20 40 GNV 82 56 77 54 / 0 20 20 50 OCF 83 57 80 55 / 0 20 20 40 && .JAX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... FL...DENSE FOG ADVISORY UNTIL 9 AM EST THIS MORNING FOR ALACHUA-BAKER- BRADFORD-CLAY-COLUMBIA-DUVAL-FLAGLER-GILCHRIST-HAMILTON- MARION-NASSAU-PUTNAM-ST JOHNS-SUWANNEE-UNION. GA...NONE. AM...NONE. && $$ SHASHY/SHULER/
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS PEACHTREE CITY GA
223 PM EST SUN NOV 4 2012 .SHORT TERM /TODAY THROUGH TUESDAY/... LATEST RAP ANALYSIS OVER THE LOCAL AREA SHOWS SURFACE BASED CAPE HAS INCREASED TO BETWEEN 500 J/KG AND 750 J/KG OVER THE SOUTHERN TIER WITH MIXED CAPE VALUES CONSIDERABLY LOWER. BAND OF PRE- FRONTAL -RA CONTINUES TO MAKE STEADY PROGRESS INTO NORTH CENTRAL GEORGIA BUT NO CONVECTIVE ELEMENTS OF NOTE WITH THIS ACTIVITY THUS FAR. INTO THE BETTER INSTABILITY HOWEVER...STARTING TO SEE SOME MORE ORGANIZED ACTIVITY. HOWEVER...FEEL BY THE TIME STRONG OR SEVERE COULD BE REALIZED...BEST LIFT WILL HAVE SHIFTED EAST OUT OF THE AREA THIS EVENING. WILL LIKELY SCALE BACK THE HWO AND ONGOING GRAPHICAST ONCE DEVELOPING LINE SHIFTS EAST. MONDAY LOOKS TO BE THE ONLY SHORT TERM DAY WITH FAIRLY BENIGN CONDITIONS AS HIGH CENTERED OVER CANADA HAS ENOUGH WEAK RIDGING SOUTH INTO THE OUR AREA TO PRODUCE A POP FREE DAY. CLOUDS HOWEVER WILL BECOME PLENTIFUL DURING THE DAY HAS MID AND HIGH LEVEL MOISTURE MAKES A RAPID RETURN TO THE NORTHWEST HALF OF THE REGION. THESE CLOUDS WILL PLAY AN IMPORTANT ROLE AS THEIR ARRIVAL PRIOR TO SUNSET WILL RESULT IN MINS TUESDAY MORNING NOT REACHING THEIR FULL POTENTIAL. THIS WILL BE CRUCIAL AS PRECIP BEGINS TO OVERSPREAD THE AREA IN EARNEST JUST PRIOR TO DAYBREAK TUESDAY AS CLOSED UPPER LOW ROTATES THROUGH THE DEEP SOUTH. NAM12 IS BY FAR THE MOST AGGRESSIVE IN DYNAMICALLY COOLING THE COLUMN...TAKING THE 850MB TEMP FROM +2C TO -1C IN A MATTER OF TWO HOURS. NOT COMPLETELY OUR OF THE QUESTION WITH SUCH A DYNAMIC SYSTEM TO SEE THIS TYPE OF COOLING ALOFT...BUT JUST CANNOT SEEM TO GET SURFACE TEMPS COLD ENOUGH TO ALLOW ANY FROZEN PRECIP TO REACH THE GROUND. THIS IS TRUE EVEN IN THE MOUNTAINS AND WILL KEEP FORECAST ALL LIQUID THIS RUN BUT WILL NEED TO BE MONITORED CLOSELY WITH SUBSEQUENT CYCLES. AS FAR AS THE THUNDER POTENTIAL...BEST SURFACE INSTABILITY SHOULD REMAIN SOUTH OF THE AREA...BUT GIVEN THE AMOUNT OF ISENTROPIC UPGLIDE JUST NORTH OF THE LOW...WILL NEED TO KEEP ISOLATED THUNDER MENTION FOR THE SOUTHERN TIER. DEESE .LONG TERM /TUESDAY NIGHT THROUGH SATURDAY/... GFS AND ECMWF CONTINUE IN ARE IN FAIRLY DECENT AGREEMENT THROUGH THE EXTENDED...AND FOR THE MOST PART AFTER THE SYSTEM EXITS TUESDAY NIGHT THE EXTENDED SHOULD BE DRY WITH A GRADUAL WARMING TREND AS THE MIDLEVEL RIDGE BUILDS IN FROM THE GULF. CORRESPONDING SURFACE HIGH PRESSURE PUSHES THROUGH THE SOUTHEAST THURSDAY INTO FRIDAY...ANCHORING ITSELF IN THE WESTERN ATLANTIC BY SATURDAY BUT WITH STRONG RIDGING REMAINING IN PLACE. HAVE MADE NO SUBSTANTIVE CHANGES TO THE EXTENDED AT THIS TIME. TDP PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 326 AM EST SUN NOV 4 2012/ BIG FORECAST STORY THROUGH THE EXTENDED IS LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM IMPACTING THE AREA TUESDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY. MODELS CONTINUE TO SUGGEST DEEPENING OF THE LOW OVER THE SOUTHERN ALABAMA AND THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE TUESDAY MORNING THROUGH EARLY AFTERNOON. AS A RESULT OF THE PROJECTED TRACK...EXPECT BEST RAIN CHANGES TO INITIALLY BE ACROSS WESTERN GA LATE ON MONDAY INTO EARLY MORNING TUESDAY...THEN TRANSITIONING TO THE SOUTHERN 2/3 OF THE FORECAST AREA BY TUESDAY MORNING. PREVIOUS MODEL RUNS HAD SUGGESTED MORE ORGANIZED DEVELOPMENT TO OUR SOUTH IN THE FORM OF A SQUALL...CUTTING OFF THE AREA FROM MOISTURE SOURCE...BUT HAVE OPTED TO INCREASE POPS CONSIDERABLY DUE TO THE AGREEMENT WITH THE LATEST MODEL RUNS OF THE NORTHERN MOISTURE PROGRESSION. LITTLE OVERALL INSTABILITY WITH THIS SYSTEM HAS LIMITED THE MENTION OF THUNDER IN THE FORECAST...THOUGH DID KEEP MENTION OF ISOLATED CONVECTION IN THE FAR SE CWA TUESDAY LATE MORNING THROUGH EARLY AFTERNOON. CENTER OF THE SURFACE LOW TRACKS ACROSS NORTHERN FLORIDA INTO TUESDAY NIGHT...AND EMERGES OFF THE GEORGIA AND CAROLINA COASTS BY WEDNESDAY MORNING. HIGH PRESSURE BUILDS IN BEHIND THE LOW AND ASSOCIATED FRONT...KEEPING THE REMAINDER OF THE LONG TERM FORECAST DRY. COOLER TEMPERATURES IN THE MIDDLE OF THE WEEK WILL GRADUALLY WARM BY THE WEEKEND. 31 && AVIATION... 18Z UPDATE... BAND OF INTERMITTENT -RA AHEAD OF A COLD FRONT IS CURRENTLY PUSHING THROUGH THE ATL AREA TERMINALS. NO REDUCTIONS TO VSBY OR CIG NOTED WITH THIS ACTIVITY BUT HAVE NOTED SOME CIG REDUCTIONS TO MVFR IN ITS WAKE. WILL CARRY -RA FOR ATL FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF HOURS FOLLOWED WITH A TEMPO FOR BKN025. FURTHER SOUTH OVER MCN AND CSG...PROSPECTS FOR TSRA APPEAR TO BE WANING BUT DEVELOPMENT JUST SOUTH OF THE AREA WARRANTS KEEPING VCTS FOR NOW. //ATL CONFIDENCE...18Z UPDATE... MEDIUM ON CIG AND WIND SHIFT MONDAY. HIGH ON REMAINING ELEMENTS. DEESE && .PRELIMINARY POINT TEMPS/POPS... ATHENS 74 44 62 42 / 30 5 0 50 ATLANTA 73 43 64 46 / 30 0 0 60 BLAIRSVILLE 63 37 57 40 / 20 0 0 50 CARTERSVILLE 68 38 63 41 / 20 0 0 60 COLUMBUS 79 44 69 48 / 30 20 0 80 GAINESVILLE 69 45 60 44 / 20 0 0 50 MACON 83 43 68 44 / 30 30 0 80 ROME 67 36 64 40 / 20 0 0 60 PEACHTREE CITY 73 37 65 40 / 40 0 0 70 VIDALIA 86 54 68 49 / 30 40 0 70 && .FFC WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... NONE. && $$ SHORT TERM...DEESE LONG TERM....TDP AVIATION...DEESE
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS QUAD CITIES IA IL
744 AM CST SUN NOV 4 2012 .UPDATE... LATEST RAP TRENDS INDICATES THE PRECIP OVER THE NORTHEAST HALF OF THE CWFA WILL RAPIDLY DISSIPATE OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF HOURS DUE TO A LACK OF CONVERGENCE. ACROSS THE SOUTHEAST HALF OF THE CWFA CONVERGENCE IS PROGGED TO INCREASE EVEN AS THE OVERALL FORCING DECREASES. THUS PRECIPITATION WILL LINGER LONGER ACROSS ROUGHLY THE SOUTH HALF THAN THE NORTH HALF THE REMAINDER OF THE MORNING. THE ENDING OF PRECIPITATION SHOULD ALLOW TEMPERATURES TO SLOWLY RISE. SOME BREAKS MAY DEVELOP IN THE CLOUDS LATER TODAY AS SUBSIDENCE DEVELOPS BEHIND THE DEPARTING SHORTWAVE. ..08.. && .PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 555 AM CST SUN NOV 4 2012/ UPDATE... TRENDS FROM THE 06Z WRF AND THE RAP MODEL WITH INPUT FROM AREA RADARS INDICATE AN ADJUSTMENT SOUTHWARD IS NEEDED FOR THE CURRENT POPS THIS MORNING. BOTH THE WRF AND RAP MODELS INDICATE THE OVERALL FORCING WILL BEGIN TO RAPIDLY WEAKEN AFTER 12Z. THE PRECIPITATION SO FAR HAS BEEN VERY SPOTTY AND WITH THE FORCING PROGGED TO GET WEAKER THE AREAL COVERAGE WILL DECREASE OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL HOURS. SUBSIDENCE BEHIND THE SHORTWAVE MAY ALLOW THE CLOUDS TO BREAK UP AROUND MID DAY AND INTO THE AFTERNOON. HOWEVER...THE DENSE CI/CS SHIELD FROM THE NEXT SYSTEM SHOULD ALSO BE ARRIVING AT THAT TIME. AT THE VERY BEST SOME EXTREMELY FILTERED SUN MAY BE POSSIBLE. A MORE LIKELY SCENARIO IS CONTINUED CLOUD COVER. IF THE LATTER SCENARIO OCCURS IT WOULD HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON TEMPERATURES. BASED ON AN APPROXIMATED ARRIVAL OF MID DAY FOR THE CLOUD SHIELD OF THE NEXT SYSTEM...MAX TEMPERATURES WERE LOWERED A FEW DEGREES TO GIVE HIGHS IN THE 45 TO 50 DEGREE RANGE. ..08.. AVIATION... MAINLY VFR WX WILL BE SEEN THROUGH 12Z/05 AS A WEAK UPPER LEVEL DISTURBANCE MOVES THROUGH THE AREA. THERE MAY BE SOME SPRINKLES OR -SHRA AT KCID/KDBQ/KMLI AS THE DISTURBANCE PASSES THROUGH. THERE MAY OR MAY NOT BE SOME MVFR VSBYS AT KBRL AROUND SUNRISE. AFT 06Z/05 YET ANOTHER UPPER LEVEL DISTURBANCE WILL MOVE THROUGH IOWA BUT ALL TAF SITES SHOULD REMAIN VFR. ..08.. PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 303 AM CST SUN NOV 4 2012/ SYNOPSIS... 06Z SFC ANALYSIS HAS A VERY WEAK LOW NEAR KORC. TROFS EMANATED FROM THE LOW INTO SOUTHWEST MINNESOTA...INTO SOUTHERN IOWA...AND BACK WEST INTO NEBRASKA. DEW POINTS AROUND THE LOW AND TROFS WERE IN THE 30S WHILE 20S WERE IN THE GREAT LAKES REGION. DEW POINTS IN THE 40S AND 50S WERE ACROSS THE TENNESSEE VALLEY AND DEEP SOUTH. SATELLITE/RADAR TRENDS SHOW CLOUDS ASSOCIATED WITH THE UPPER LEVEL WAVE MOVING INTO THE AREA WITH PLENTY OF VIRGA ON RADAR. HOWEVER... PRECIPITATION WAS REACHING THE GROUND AND WAS MEASURABLE IN SPOTS. SHORT TERM...TODAY AND TONIGHT... THE CURRENT WAVE MOVING INTO THE AREA IS BEST DEPICTED USING THE 290K THETA SFC CONDENSATION PRESSURE DEFICITS/FORCING FROM THE WRF. THE TREND WITH THE OVERALL FORCING IS TO RAPIDLY WEAKEN PRIOR TO SUNRISE AND DURING THE MORNING HOURS AS THE SYSTEM ENCOUNTERS DRIER AIR OVER THE AREA. USING THE ABOVE APPROACH IN CONCERT WITH IMPLIED FORCING FROM THE TRACK OF THE VORT MAX SUGGESTS THE NORTHERN HALF SHOULD SEE SPRINKLES WITH SOME VERY LIGHT RAIN IN THE PRE-DAWN HOURS WITH THE AREAL COVERAGE SHRINKING AFTER SUNRISE AS THE FORCING COLLAPSES. THERE IS A CONCERN...WHICH THE WRF 290K THETA SFC SHOWED...THAT SPRINKLES OR VERY LIGHT RAIN MAY DEVELOP ACROSS THE SOUTHERN HALF OF THE CWFA PRIOR TO SUNRISE ON THE LEADING EDGE OF THE WEAKENING FORCING. CURRENTLY RADAR SHOWS ECHOES INCREASING AND MOVING INTO THE SOUTHERN HALF OF THE CWFA. THESE ECHOES ARE LIKELY A COMBINATION OF CLOUDS/VIRGA BUT NO SFC STATION IS REPORTING PRECIPITATION. THIS SITUATION WILL NEED TO BE MONITORED CLOSELY FOR POTENTIAL PRECIPITATION THROUGH SUNRISE AND INTO THE MORNING. BASED ON THE TRENDS IN FORCING...THE AFTERNOON HOURS LOOK TO BE DRY ACROSS THE AREA AS SUBSIDENCE MOVES IN BEHIND THE SHORT WAVE. THERE SHOULD BE SOME PARTIAL CLEARING THAT DEVELOPS DURING THE AFTERNOON WHICH WOULD ALLOW TEMPERATURES TO BE SIMILAR TO YESTERDAY. IF CLOUDS HOLD INTO THE AFTERNOON THEN THE CURRENT UPPER 40S/LOWER 50S FOR HIGHS WILL BE TOO WARM. QUIET AND DRY CONDITIONS SHOULD BE SEEN DURING THE EARLY EVENING WHILE THE NEXT...MORE SUBSTANTIAL...SHORTWAVE DROPS SOUTHEAST FROM THE NORTHERN PLAINS. THE OVERALL FORCING AND LOWERING OF CONDENSATION PRESSURE DEFICITS SUGGEST SPRINKLES/VERY LIGHT RAIN SHOULD BEGIN MOVING INTO THE FAR SOUTHWEST/WEST DURING THE LATE EVENING HOURS. AFTER MIDNIGHT THE FORCING INCREASES AND ROUGHLY THE SOUTHWEST THIRD TO WESTERN HALF OF THE CWFA SHOULD SEE SPRINKLES/LIGHT RAIN. THE FAR SOUTHWEST PART OF THE CWFA APPEARS TO HAVE THE BEST CHANCE OF SEEING MEASURABLE RAIN. 08 LONG TERM...MONDAY THROUGH NEXT SATURDAY... CLIPPER SYSTEM TO SHIFT SOUTH OF REGION ON MON WITH RAIN MAINLY WEST OF KIIB-KGBG LINE TAPERING OFF BY MIDDAY. CLOUDS REMAIN IN WAKE BUT LIKELY TO SEE SOME BREAKS IN AFTERNOON WITH SUBSIDENCE. SIDED TOWARD COOL SIDE OF GUIDANCE FOR HIGHS ACROSS THE SOUTH/WEST CWA WHERE LIKELY TO SEE MORE CLOUDINESS LINGER WHILE OPTED FOR BLEND ELSEWHERE WITH POTENTIAL FOR MORE PEAKS OF SUNSHINE. NEXT IN SERIES OF CLIPPER SYSTEMS PROGGED TO DIVE DOWN THROUGH THE GREAT LAKES TUE-TUE NGT. DIFFLUENT FLOW ALOFT... DECENT ELEVATED MOISTURE ADVECTION AND LIFT ATTENDANT TO LEFT EXIT REGION OF 110-120 KT H3 JET SUPPORT BAND OF PCPN SWEEPING ACROSS CWA TUE AM EXITING DURING THE AFTN. HAVE RAISED POPS ALL AREAS WITH LIKELY POPS NORTHEAST HALF OF CWA... BUT IF FORCING SIGNAL REMAINS THEN WOULD NEED TO RAISE POPS FURTHER TO LIKELY TO CATEGORICAL OVER GOOD PORTION OF CWA FOR MAINLY FIRST HALF OF DAY TUE. LIMITED MOISTURE AND SPEED OF SYSTEM TO KEEP PCPN AMOUNTS LIGHT AND GENERALLY FROM A FEW HUNDREDTHS TO AROUND 0.1 INCH. HIGHS TUE REMAIN BELOW NORMAL IN THE 40S TO L50S WITH THE COOLEST READINGS LIKELY TO BE IN THE N/E CWA. WED-FRI... MAINLY DRY WITH WARMING TREND ESPECIALLY THU-FRI WHEN TEMPS EXPECTED TO BE AT OR ABOVE NORMAL... AS UPPER LEVEL RIDGING BUILDS INTO THE REGION. NEXT WEEKEND CONTINUES TO LOOK INCREASINGLY UNSETTLED/WET WITH POTENTIAL FOR PERIOD OF MODERATE TO LOCALLY HEAVY RAINS... AS UPPER LEVEL ENERGY EJECTS FROM THE SOUTHWEST CONUS AND INTERACTS WITH GULF MOISTURE. TEMPS TO START OUT THE WEEKEND ABOVE NORMAL BUT LIKELY TO RETURN NEAR TO BELOW NORMAL BY EARLY NEXT WEEK WITH PASSAGE OF COLD FRONT. 05 && .DVN WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... IA...NONE. IL...NONE. MO...NONE. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS QUAD CITIES IA IL
555 AM CST SUN NOV 4 2012 .UPDATE... TRENDS FROM THE 06Z WRF AND THE RAP MODEL WITH INPUT FROM AREA RADARS INDICATE AN ADJUSTMENT SOUTHWARD IS NEEDED FOR THE CURRENT POPS THIS MORNING. BOTH THE WRF AND RAP MODELS INDICATE THE OVERALL FORCING WILL BEGIN TO RAPIDLY WEAKEN AFTER 12Z. THE PRECIPITATION SO FAR HAS BEEN VERY SPOTTY AND WITH THE FORCING PROGGED TO GET WEAKER THE AREAL COVERAGE WILL DECREASE OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL HOURS. SUBSIDENCE BEHIND THE SHORTWAVE MAY ALLOW THE CLOUDS TO BREAK UP AROUND MID DAY AND INTO THE AFTERNOON. HOWEVER...THE DENSE CI/CS SHIELD FROM THE NEXT SYSTEM SHOULD ALSO BE ARRIVING AT THAT TIME. AT THE VERY BEST SOME EXTREMELY FILTERED SUN MAY BE POSSIBLE. A MORE LIKELY SCENARIO IS CONTINUED CLOUD COVER. IF THE LATTER SCENARIO OCCURS IT WOULD HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON TEMPERATURES. BASED ON AN APPROXIMATED ARRIVAL OF MID DAY FOR THE CLOUD SHIELD OF THE NEXT SYSTEM...MAX TEMPERATURES WERE LOWERED A FEW DEGREES TO GIVE HIGHS IN THE 45 TO 50 DEGREE RANGE. ..08.. && .AVIATION... MAINLY VFR WX WILL BE SEEN THROUGH 12Z/05 AS A WEAK UPPER LEVEL DISTURBANCE MOVES THROUGH THE AREA. THERE MAY BE SOME SPRINKLES OR -SHRA AT KCID/KDBQ/KMLI AS THE DISTURBANCE PASSES THROUGH. THERE MAY OR MAY NOT BE SOME MVFR VSBYS AT KBRL AROUND SUNRISE. AFT 06Z/05 YET ANOTHER UPPER LEVEL DISTURBANCE WILL MOVE THROUGH IOWA BUT ALL TAF SITES SHOULD REMAIN VFR. ..08.. && .PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 303 AM CST SUN NOV 4 2012/ SYNOPSIS... 06Z SFC ANALYSIS HAS A VERY WEAK LOW NEAR KORC. TROFS EMANATED FROM THE LOW INTO SOUTHWEST MINNESOTA...INTO SOUTHERN IOWA...AND BACK WEST INTO NEBRASKA. DEW POINTS AROUND THE LOW AND TROFS WERE IN THE 30S WHILE 20S WERE IN THE GREAT LAKES REGION. DEW POINTS IN THE 40S AND 50S WERE ACROSS THE TENNESSEE VALLEY AND DEEP SOUTH. SATELLITE/RADAR TRENDS SHOW CLOUDS ASSOCIATED WITH THE UPPER LEVEL WAVE MOVING INTO THE AREA WITH PLENTY OF VIRGA ON RADAR. HOWEVER... PRECIPITATION WAS REACHING THE GROUND AND WAS MEASURABLE IN SPOTS. SHORT TERM...TODAY AND TONIGHT... THE CURRENT WAVE MOVING INTO THE AREA IS BEST DEPICTED USING THE 290K THETA SFC CONDENSATION PRESSURE DEFICITS/FORCING FROM THE WRF. THE TREND WITH THE OVERALL FORCING IS TO RAPIDLY WEAKEN PRIOR TO SUNRISE AND DURING THE MORNING HOURS AS THE SYSTEM ENCOUNTERS DRIER AIR OVER THE AREA. USING THE ABOVE APPROACH IN CONCERT WITH IMPLIED FORCING FROM THE TRACK OF THE VORT MAX SUGGESTS THE NORTHERN HALF SHOULD SEE SPRINKLES WITH SOME VERY LIGHT RAIN IN THE PRE-DAWN HOURS WITH THE AREAL COVERAGE SHRINKING AFTER SUNRISE AS THE FORCING COLLAPSES. THERE IS A CONCERN...WHICH THE WRF 290K THETA SFC SHOWED...THAT SPRINKLES OR VERY LIGHT RAIN MAY DEVELOP ACROSS THE SOUTHERN HALF OF THE CWFA PRIOR TO SUNRISE ON THE LEADING EDGE OF THE WEAKENING FORCING. CURRENTLY RADAR SHOWS ECHOES INCREASING AND MOVING INTO THE SOUTHERN HALF OF THE CWFA. THESE ECHOES ARE LIKELY A COMBINATION OF CLOUDS/VIRGA BUT NO SFC STATION IS REPORTING PRECIPITATION. THIS SITUATION WILL NEED TO BE MONITORED CLOSELY FOR POTENTIAL PRECIPITATION THROUGH SUNRISE AND INTO THE MORNING. BASED ON THE TRENDS IN FORCING...THE AFTERNOON HOURS LOOK TO BE DRY ACROSS THE AREA AS SUBSIDENCE MOVES IN BEHIND THE SHORT WAVE. THERE SHOULD BE SOME PARTIAL CLEARING THAT DEVELOPS DURING THE AFTERNOON WHICH WOULD ALLOW TEMPERATURES TO BE SIMILAR TO YESTERDAY. IF CLOUDS HOLD INTO THE AFTERNOON THEN THE CURRENT UPPER 40S/LOWER 50S FOR HIGHS WILL BE TOO WARM. QUIET AND DRY CONDITIONS SHOULD BE SEEN DURING THE EARLY EVENING WHILE THE NEXT...MORE SUBSTANTIAL...SHORTWAVE DROPS SOUTHEAST FROM THE NORTHERN PLAINS. THE OVERALL FORCING AND LOWERING OF CONDENSATION PRESSURE DEFICITS SUGGEST SPRINKLES/VERY LIGHT RAIN SHOULD BEGIN MOVING INTO THE FAR SOUTHWEST/WEST DURING THE LATE EVENING HOURS. AFTER MIDNIGHT THE FORCING INCREASES AND ROUGHLY THE SOUTHWEST THIRD TO WESTERN HALF OF THE CWFA SHOULD SEE SPRINKLES/LIGHT RAIN. THE FAR SOUTHWEST PART OF THE CWFA APPEARS TO HAVE THE BEST CHANCE OF SEEING MEASURABLE RAIN. 08 LONG TERM...MONDAY THROUGH NEXT SATURDAY... CLIPPER SYSTEM TO SHIFT SOUTH OF REGION ON MON WITH RAIN MAINLY WEST OF KIIB-KGBG LINE TAPERING OFF BY MIDDAY. CLOUDS REMAIN IN WAKE BUT LIKELY TO SEE SOME BREAKS IN AFTERNOON WITH SUBSIDENCE. SIDED TOWARD COOL SIDE OF GUIDANCE FOR HIGHS ACROSS THE SOUTH/WEST CWA WHERE LIKELY TO SEE MORE CLOUDINESS LINGER WHILE OPTED FOR BLEND ELSEWHERE WITH POTENTIAL FOR MORE PEAKS OF SUNSHINE. NEXT IN SERIES OF CLIPPER SYSTEMS PROGGED TO DIVE DOWN THROUGH THE GREAT LAKES TUE-TUE NGT. DIFFLUENT FLOW ALOFT... DECENT ELEVATED MOISTURE ADVECTION AND LIFT ATTENDANT TO LEFT EXIT REGION OF 110-120 KT H3 JET SUPPORT BAND OF PCPN SWEEPING ACROSS CWA TUE AM EXITING DURING THE AFTN. HAVE RAISED POPS ALL AREAS WITH LIKELY POPS NORTHEAST HALF OF CWA... BUT IF FORCING SIGNAL REMAINS THEN WOULD NEED TO RAISE POPS FURTHER TO LIKELY TO CATEGORICAL OVER GOOD PORTION OF CWA FOR MAINLY FIRST HALF OF DAY TUE. LIMITED MOISTURE AND SPEED OF SYSTEM TO KEEP PCPN AMOUNTS LIGHT AND GENERALLY FROM A FEW HUNDREDTHS TO AROUND 0.1 INCH. HIGHS TUE REMAIN BELOW NORMAL IN THE 40S TO L50S WITH THE COOLEST READINGS LIKELY TO BE IN THE N/E CWA. WED-FRI... MAINLY DRY WITH WARMING TREND ESPECIALLY THU-FRI WHEN TEMPS EXPECTED TO BE AT OR ABOVE NORMAL... AS UPPER LEVEL RIDGING BUILDS INTO THE REGION. NEXT WEEKEND CONTINUES TO LOOK INCREASINGLY UNSETTLED/WET WITH POTENTIAL FOR PERIOD OF MODERATE TO LOCALLY HEAVY RAINS... AS UPPER LEVEL ENERGY EJECTS FROM THE SOUTHWEST CONUS AND INTERACTS WITH GULF MOISTURE. TEMPS TO START OUT THE WEEKEND ABOVE NORMAL BUT LIKELY TO RETURN NEAR TO BELOW NORMAL BY EARLY NEXT WEEK WITH PASSAGE OF COLD FRONT. 05 && .DVN WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... IA...NONE. IL...NONE. MO...NONE. && $$
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NWS GOODLAND KS
451 PM MST MON NOV 5 2012 .SHORT TERM...(THIS EVENING THROUGH TUESDAY) ISSUED AT 112 PM MST MON NOV 5 2012 LATEST WATER VAPOR AND RUC ANALYSIS DEPICT AN UPPER LEVEL RIDGE OVER THE WEST COAST...A SHORT WAVE TROUGH OVER SOUTHWEST CANADA WITH HIGH CLOUDS AHEAD OF IT OVER MONTANA SOUTH INTO COLORADO AND KANSAS. ANOTHER SHORT WAVE TROUGH WAS LOCATED OVER EASTERN OKLAHOMA AND CONTINUES TO DEEPEN. AT THE SURFACE A WARM FRONT WAS IN PLACE ALONG THE KS/CO BORDER NORTH INTO FAR SOUTHWEST SOUTH DAKOTA THANKS TO THE DOWNSLOPE WINDS COMING OFF THE ROCKIES. TONIGHT A SHORT WAVE RIDGE IN BETWEEN THE TROUGH OVER CANADA AND THE ONE TO OUR SOUTHEAST WILL MOVE OVER THE AREA. AT THE SURFACE A TROUGH WILL MOVE IN AHEAD OF THE UPPER LEVEL RIDGE. WINDS WILL SHIFT WEST WITH THE TROUGH PASSAGE THEN TURN BACK NORTH BEHIND IT. WITH A DRY ENVIRONMENT IN PLACE THE TROUGH PASSAGE WILL BE DRY. .LONG TERM...(TUESDAY NIGHT THROUGH MONDAY) ISSUED AT 256 PM MST MON NOV 5 2012 FORECAST CONCERNS WILL BE THE AMOUNT OF WARMUP/FIRE WEATHER CONCERNS WEDNESDAY THROUGH FRIDAY FOLLOWED BY COLDER TEMPERATURES/CHANCE OF PRECIPITATION NEXT WEEKEND. SATELLITE SHOWING AN AMPLIFIED/AMPLIFYING AND ACTIVE FLOW FROM THE PACIFIC INTO THE WESTERN ATLANTIC. SYSTEMS TO NOTE...DEEPENING SOON TO BE STRONG SYSTEM DIGGING INTO THE EASTERN PORTION OF THE COUNTRY WITH VERY STRONG SYSTEM MOVING/DEVELOPING IN SOUTHERN CANADA AT THIS TIME. DRY AIR MASS CURRENTLY RESIDES OVER THE AREA. AT JET LEVEL...THE NAM FOLLOWED BY THE GFS WAS DOING THE BEST ON THE VERY STRONG THAT RUNS FROM THE GULF OF ALASKA AND ON THE WEST SIDE OF DEVELOPING EASTERN CONUS SYSTEM. AT MID LEVELS...THE GFS WAS DOING A LITTLE BETTER THAN EVERYTHING ELSE. THE SREF AND NAM WERE DOING BEST ON THE SURFACE WIND AND PRESSURE FIELD. THE NAM...GFS AND CANADIAN WERE DOING BEST AT THIS TIME ON THE LOW LEVEL THERMAL FIELD. TUESDAY NIGHT...LITTLE CLOUD COVER AND LIGHT WINDS...ESPECIALLY IN THE EAST...WILL ALLOW TEMPERATURES TO FALL BELOW GUIDANCE. MINS RECENTLY HAVE FALLING WELL BELOW NWP. WENT IN THAT DIRECTION AND CLOSER TO THE GEM 2 METER TEMPERATURES. WEDNESDAY/WEDNESDAY NIGHT...DURING THE DAY THE SURFACE RIDGE PULLS AWAY WITH A CHILLY START...ESPECIALLY IN THE EAST. NEWER NAM IS LESS AGGRESSIVE WITH THE DOWNSLOPE COMPONENT. HOWEVER...WILL HAVE PLENTY OF SUN AND WESTERLY FLOW ALOFT. KEPT TEMPERATURES ABOUT THE SAME EXCEPT WARMING THEM UP A TOUCH. THE WIND FIELD LOOKS TO BE A LITTLE LIGHT...ESPECIALLY IN THE EAST. AS TROUGH LINE PASSES THROUGH THE TEMPERATURES WILL DROP WITH THEM WARMING UP AS DOWNSLOPE WINDS INCREASE BEHIND THE TROUGH. SO WILL BE A LITTLE TRICKY. THURSDAY...MODELS ALL OVER THE PLACE ON BOUNDARY PLACEMENT AND TIMING AND RESULTING LOW LEVEL TEMPERATURES. CONSIDERING THE EXPECTED FLOW ALOFT...THE MODELS MAY BE RUSHING THINGS A LITTLE BIT. AT THIS TIME...DID A COMPROMISE BETWEEN THE WARMEST AND COOLEST TEMPERATURES BUT DEFINITELY COULD SEE IT BEING WARMER. THURSDAY NIGHT THROUGH MONDAY...MAJOR FEATURE OF INTEREST IS HOW THE DEVELOPING WESTERN TROUGH WILL AFFECT THE WEATHER. THE MODELS AND ENSEMBLES HAVE THE SAME GENERAL IDEA OF AN ELONGATED TROUGH WITH THE STRONGEST/BEST DYNAMICS MUCH FURTHER NORTH AND SPLITTING OFF THE WEAKER SOUTHERN END FURTHER SOUTH LEAVING OUR AREA IN THE MIDDLE. MODELS DO DIFFER ON THE SPEED OF THE TROUGH WITH MORE SUPPORT FOR A SLOWER ARRIVAL. TEMPERATURES THURSDAY NIGHT WILL BE RATHER TRICKY. COLD FRONT THAT IS EXPECTED TO MOVE THROUGH SOMETIME ON THURSDAY IS EXPECTED TO RETURN NORTH AS A WARM FRONT THURSDAY NIGHT INTO FRIDAY. MODEL IN GENERAL AGREEMENT ON FRIDAY WITH THE FRONT NEAR OR NORTH OF THE FORECAST AREA BY LATE IN THE DAY. OVER THE SOUTHERN HALF TO TWO THIRDS...MODELS AGREE ON VERY WARM 850 MB TEMPERATURES. WILL HAVE DEEP SOUTHWEST FLOW ALOFT. AT THIS TIME DO NOT EXPECT THICK CLOUD COVER. AS A RESULT OF THAT AND COLLABORATION...WARMED UP MAXES. THIS WARM UP STILL MAY NOT BE ENOUGH. FRIDAY NIGHT INTO SATURDAY THE FRONT COMES BACK SOUTH AS A COLD FRONT. SOME DISCREPANCY ON TIMING BUT THERE LOOKS TO BE A THICKENING CLOUD DECK AND DEVELOPING PRECIPITATION THROUGH THE DAY. SO LEFT THE INHERITED INIT ALONE. VERY COLD TEMPERATURES FOLLOWING ESPECIALLY FOR SATURDAY NIGHT INTO SUNDAY NIGHT. INIT GRIDS LOOK FINE BUT DID MAKE A MINOR ADJUSTMENT DOWN. SATURDAY...ESPECIALLY FROM THE AFTERNOON...INTO SUNDAY LOOKS TO BE OUR CHANCE FOR PRECIPITATION. ONLY CONCERN NOW IS IF THE SLOWER SOLUTIONS PREVAIL...THE PRECIPITATION COULD START LATER IN THE DAY ON SATURDAY AND CONTINUE THROUGH MORE OF SUNDAY. DESPITE THE BRUNT OF THE LIFT BEING FURTHER NORTH...RIGHT REAR QUADRANT OF JET...VERY STRONG PV ANOMALY...AND STRONG CO-LOCATED MESOSCALE FORCING LOCATED WITH FAVORABLE THETA-E LAPSE RATES...DO SUPPORT LIGHT PRECIPITATION OCCURRING. THINK WE WILL GET SOMETHING JUST NOT SURE HOW MUCH. AM CONCERNED AND WILL HAVE TO BE WATCHED CAREFULLY IN UPCOMING FORECASTS OF BANDED PRECIPITATION DEVELOPING OVER THE AREA. KEPT THE PHASE RAIN SATURDAY AFTERNOON AND SWITCHED IT OVER TO ALL SNOW SATURDAY NIGHT. DEPENDING ON HOW LONG THE PRECIPITATION LINGERS INTO SUNDAY...COULD BE ALL SNOW OR A RAIN AND SNOW MIXTURE. FOR THE PRECIPITATION KEPT WHAT THE INIT GRID PRODUCED. REMAINDER OF THE FORECAST IS DRY. && .AVIATION...(FOR THE 00Z TAFS THROUGH 00Z TUESDAY EVENING) ISSUED AT 446 PM MST MON NOV 5 2012 A SURFACE TROUGH WILL MOVE PAST KGLD AND KMCK LATE TONIGHT CAUSING WINDS TO SHIFT TO THE NORTHWEST. VFR CONDITIONS WILL PREVAIL THROUGH THE NEXT 24 HOURS WITH BROKEN TO SCATTERED HIGH LEVEL CLOUDS. && .FIRE WEATHER... ISSUED AT 256 PM MST MON NOV 5 2012 ON WEDNESDAY...RELATIVE HUMIDITIES WILL BECOME LOW. HOWEVER THE WIND FIELD LOOKS TO BE TOO LIGHT SO DO NOT EXPECT ANY FIRE WEATHER HIGHLIGHTS. ON FRIDAY...THIS DAY WILL HAVE TO BE WATCHED CAREFULLY. RELATIVE HUMIDITIES BE SOUTH OF THE WARM FRONT. WINDS WILL ALSO PICK UP IN THE SAME AREA. IF WARM FRONT IS FASTER MOVING NORTH AND THE WINDS END UP STRONGER...THERE MAY BE A NEED FOR A FIRE WEATHER HIGHLIGHT. && .GLD WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... KS...NONE. CO...NONE. NE...NONE. && $$ SHORT TERM...JTL LONG TERM...BULLER AVIATION...FS FIRE WEATHER...BULLER
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS MARQUETTE MI
1232 PM EST SUN NOV 4 2012 .UPDATE... ISSUED AT 1138 AM EST SUN NOV 4 2012 BASED OFF LATEST RADAR TRENDS AND HIGH RESOLUTION MODEL GUIDANCE...HAVE BUMPED UP THE ISOLATED FLURRIES TO ISOLATED SNOW SHOWERS /MIXED WITH RAIN THIS AFTERNOON NEAR THE LAKESHORE/. EXPECT A SIMILAR SITUATION TO OCCUR THIS AFTERNOON AS YESTERDAY AFTERNOON...WHERE DIURNAL AFFECTS WERE ABLE TO LIFT THE INVERSION A FEW HUNDRED FEET AND ENOUGH TO ENABLE ISOLATED SHOWERS WITH THE LAKE SUPERIOR SFC-H925 DELTA-T OF 13. HAVE CONTINUED THIS OVER THE NORTH CENTRAL AND KEWEENAW THROUGH THE NIGHT AND INTO TOMORROW MORNING...LARGELY FOLLOWING THE SLOWLY VEERING LIGHT FLOW FROM NORTH TO EAST THROUGH TOMORROW AFTERNOON. && .SHORT TERM...(TODAY AND TONIGHT) ISSUED AT 443 AM EST SUN NOV 4 2012 WV IMAGERY AND RUC ANALYSIS INDICATED A LONGWAVE PATTERN WITH A MID/UPPER LEVEL RIDGE INTO THE WRN CONUS AND A TROUGH OVER THE EAST. A SHRTWV TROUGH WAS LOCATED OVER NE IA WHILE A RIDGE EXTENDED FROM NORTH DAKOTA INTO NE MANITOBA LEAVING WEAK NRLY FLOW THROUGH THE NRN GREAT LAKES. AT THE SFC...HIGH PRES EXTENDED FROM NRN MANITOBA AND NW ONTARIO THROUGH WRN LAKE SUPERIOR INTO WI RESULTING IN ACYC NRLY FLOW ACROSS LAKE SUPERIOR AND UPPER MI. SHALLOW MOISTURE TRAPPED BELOW A 2K-3K FT INVERSION WITH 925 MB TEMPS TO AROUND -6C HAS PROVIDED ENOUGH INSTABILITY TO SUPPORT ISOLATED LAKE EFFECT FLURRIES INTO N CNTRL UPPER MI. OTHERWISE...IR LOOP SHOWED LOW CLOUDS ACROSS NRN ONTARIO THROUGH THE CWA. SATELLITE TRENDS AND MODELS 925 RH SUGGEST THAT...SIMILAR TO YESTERDAY...THE LOW CLOUDS WILL PERSIST OVER THE AREA GIVEN LITTLE CHANGE IN THE TEMP PROFILE AND ONLY A GRADUAL WIND SHIFT. THERE MAY BE SOME AFTERNOON CLEARING AGAIN OVER THE SOUTHWEST...WHERE MIXING MAY HELP PUSH THE EDGE OF THE CLOUDS BACK TO THE NORTHEAST. EVEN THOUGH INSTABILITY AND THE WIND FIELDS REMAIN WEAK...SOME ISOLATED/INTERMITTENT FLURRIES WILL REMAIN POSSIBLE OVER N CNTRL UPPER MI INTO THIS EVENING AS WINDS GRADUALLY VEER TO THE EAST...PER HIGH RES MODELS. THE CLOUDS SHOULD ALSO KEEP TEMPS IN A NARROW RANGE WITH HIGHS TODAY ONLY INTO THE MID AND UPPER 30S NORTH TO AROUND 40 SOUTH. WITH LINGERING CLOUDS TONIGHT...EXPECT MIN READINGS TOWARD THE HIGHER END OF GUIDANCE IN THE UPPER 20S TO AROUND 30. HOWEVER... IF SOME CLEARING DEVELOPS OVER THE SW TEMPS COULD FALL OFF QUICKLY TO NEAR 20. .LONG TERM...(MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY) ISSUED AT 443 AM EST SUN NOV 4 2012 THE 500MB WAVE CURRENTLY OVER SW CANADA WILL BE OVER THE CENTRAL PLAINS BY DAYBREAK MONDAY...WITH A REINFORCING LOW SWINGING OVER SE CANADA FROM HUDSON BAY. IN BETWEEN THESE 2 SYSTEMS UPPER MI WILL REMAIN UNDER HIGH PRESSURE AT THE SFC AND ALOFT. SW WINDS WILL BE ON THE INCREASE MONDAY NIGHT /850MB WINDS OF 20-30KTS WITH 850MB TEMPS RISING FROM -6C TO -2C/...IN ADVANCE OF THE NEARING LOW FROM THE NW. PRECIPITATION WILL BEGIN LATE MONDAY EVENING...AND BECOME LIKELY ACROSS THE ENTIRE AREA AROUND DAYBREAK TUESDAY. AROUND AN INCH OF WET SNOW WILL BE POSSIBLE MONDAY NIGHT INTO TUESDAY MORNING OVER THE HIGHER TERRAIN OF MQT...AND SE BARAGA...AND NE IRON COUNTIES...WITH THE HELP OF A POCKET OF COOLER AIR WITH SFC TEMPS EXPECTED TO REMAIN IN THE 30S THROUGH THE DAY TUESDAY. S WINDS OFF LAKE MI COULD BECOME BREEZY AT TIMES OVER THE E HALF NEAR THE GREAT LAKES SHORELINES...BUT BELOW ANY ADVISORY VALUES. THE BULK OF THE MOISTURE SHOULD EXIT TUESDAY EVENING AS THE S EXTENT OF THE ELONGATED LOW STRETCHING FROM NE MANITOBA THROUGH E LAKE SUPERIOR EXITS EASTWARD AND TEMPORARILY GETS REPLACED BY A RIDGE FROM THE SW. WHILE TIMING OF THE VARIOUS FCST MODELS IS STILL A LITTLE UNCERTAIN...THEY ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE 500MB LOW OR TROUGH DIGGING ACROSS THE UPPER GREAT LAKES TUESDAY NIGHT AND INTENSIFYING OFF THE MID ATLANTIC AS IT MERGES WITH ANOTHER WAVE ON THE S EDGE OF THE LARGER TROUGH THAT COVERS THE E HALF OF THE NATION. LAKE EFFECT/LAKE ENHANCED CLOUDS AND PRECIP SHOULD LINGER INTO WEDNESDAY...WITH THE POTENTIAL FOR BOTH RAIN AND SNOW CONTINUING. OTHERWISE FOR THE END OF THE WORK WEEK...WITH HIGH PRESSURE OVERHEAD IN BETWEEN A STRONGER SYSTEM OFF THE EASTERN SEABOARD AND ANOTHER LOW DEVELOPING OFF THE ROCKIES. && .AVIATION...(FOR THE 18Z TAFS THROUGH 18Z MONDAY AFTERNOON) ISSUED AT 1232 PM EST SUN NOV 4 2012 STRONG INVERSION AROUND 3KFT ABOVE THE SURFACE HAS CONTINUED TO TRAP CLOUDS OVER THE LAKE SUPERIOR REGION TODAY. WITH HIGH PRESSURE TO THE NORTH CONTINUING LIGHT NORTHERLY FLOW THROUGH THIS EVENING AND THEN VEERING TO THE EAST OVERNIGHT...EXPECT THE MVFR CLOUDS TO REMAIN IN PLACE AT KCMX/KSAW. ALSO EXPECT OCCASIONAL SNOW SHOWERS TO AFFECT KCMX THROUGH MUCH OF THE PERIOD...BUT ONLY THROUGH EARLY EVENING AT KSAW SINCE WINDS WILL BEGIN TO TURN UNFAVORABLE. SINCE CEILINGS ARE ALREADY AT MVFR LEVELS...DIDN/T TRY TO TIME THE BRIEF VISIBILITY REDUCTIONS WITH THE SHOWERS. AS FOR KIWD...DAYTIME MIXING IS STARTING TO BREAK UP CLOUDS AND NORTHERN WISCONSIN AND EXPECT THAT TO CONTINUE NORTH TO THIS AFTERNOON. AS HAS HAPPENED THE LAST TWO NIGHTS...EXPECT THE BREAKS TO BE SHORT LIVED...AS LIGHT NORTHEAST AND THEN EAST FLOW WILL LIKELY PUSH THE LOW CLOUDS BACK IN AFTER SUNSET. IF CLOUDS RETREAT FARTHER NORTH THAN EXPECTED...THE CLOUDS MAY STRUGGLE TO DROP BACK INTO KIWD WITH THE LIGHT WINDS. && .MARINE...(FOR THE 4 AM LAKE SUPERIOR FORECAST ISSUANCE) ISSUED AT 443 AM EST SUN NOV 4 2012 AS HIGH PRESSURE OVER NORTHWEST ONTARIO SLIDES SOUTHEAST THROUGH THE UPPER GREAT LAKES THROUGH MONDAY...EXPECT WINDS TO BE LIGHT AND LESS THAN 15KTS. A LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM MOVING THROUGH CENTRAL CANADA ON TUESDAY WILL SWEEP A SURFACE TROUGH ACROSS THE UPPER GREAT LAKES REGION AND BRING INCREASING SOUTHWESTERLY WINDS TO 20-30 KTS. A WEAK HIGH PRESSURE RIDGE WILL THEN SLIDE INTO THE UPPER GREAT LAKES WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON AND REMAIN INTO FRIDAY. && .MQT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... UPPER MICHIGAN... NONE. LAKE SUPERIOR... NONE. LAKE MICHIGAN... NONE. && $$ UPDATE...SRF SHORT TERM...JLB LONG TERM...KF AVIATION...SRF MARINE...JLB
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NWS MARQUETTE MI
1138 AM EST SUN NOV 4 2012 .UPDATE... ISSUED AT 1138 AM EST SUN NOV 4 2012 BASED OFF LATEST RADAR TRENDS AND HIGH RESOLUTION MODEL GUIDANCE...HAVE BUMPED UP THE ISOLATED FLURRIES TO ISOLATED SNOW SHOWERS /MIXED WITH RAIN THIS AFTERNOON NEAR THE LAKESHORE/. EXPECT A SIMILAR SITUATION TO OCCUR THIS AFTERNOON AS YESTERDAY AFTERNOON...WHERE DIURNAL AFFECTS WERE ABLE TO LIFT THE INVERSION A FEW HUNDRED FEET AND ENOUGH TO ENABLE ISOLATED SHOWERS WITH THE LAKE SUPERIOR SFC-H925 DELTA-T OF 13. HAVE CONTINUED THIS OVER THE NORTH CENTRAL AND KEWEENAW THROUGH THE NIGHT AND INTO TOMORROW MORNING...LARGELY FOLLOWING THE SLOWLY VEERING LIGHT FLOW FROM NORTH TO EAST THROUGH TOMORROW AFTERNOON. && .SHORT TERM...(TODAY AND TONIGHT) ISSUED AT 443 AM EST SUN NOV 4 2012 WV IMAGERY AND RUC ANALYSIS INDICATED A LONGWAVE PATTERN WITH A MID/UPPER LEVEL RIDGE INTO THE WRN CONUS AND A TROUGH OVER THE EAST. A SHRTWV TROUGH WAS LOCATED OVER NE IA WHILE A RIDGE EXTENDED FROM NORTH DAKOTA INTO NE MANITOBA LEAVING WEAK NRLY FLOW THROUGH THE NRN GREAT LAKES. AT THE SFC...HIGH PRES EXTENDED FROM NRN MANITOBA AND NW ONTARIO THROUGH WRN LAKE SUPERIOR INTO WI RESULTING IN ACYC NRLY FLOW ACROSS LAKE SUPERIOR AND UPPER MI. SHALLOW MOISTURE TRAPPED BELOW A 2K-3K FT INVERSION WITH 925 MB TEMPS TO AROUND -6C HAS PROVIDED ENOUGH INSTABILITY TO SUPPORT ISOLATED LAKE EFFECT FLURRIES INTO N CNTRL UPPER MI. OTHERWISE...IR LOOP SHOWED LOW CLOUDS ACROSS NRN ONTARIO THROUGH THE CWA. SATELLITE TRENDS AND MODELS 925 RH SUGGEST THAT...SIMILAR TO YESTERDAY...THE LOW CLOUDS WILL PERSIST OVER THE AREA GIVEN LITTLE CHANGE IN THE TEMP PROFILE AND ONLY A GRADUAL WIND SHIFT. THERE MAY BE SOME AFTERNOON CLEARING AGAIN OVER THE SOUTHWEST...WHERE MIXING MAY HELP PUSH THE EDGE OF THE CLOUDS BACK TO THE NORTHEAST. EVEN THOUGH INSTABILITY AND THE WIND FIELDS REMAIN WEAK...SOME ISOLATED/INTERMITTENT FLURRIES WILL REMAIN POSSIBLE OVER N CNTRL UPPER MI INTO THIS EVENING AS WINDS GRADUALLY VEER TO THE EAST...PER HIGH RES MODELS. THE CLOUDS SHOULD ALSO KEEP TEMPS IN A NARROW RANGE WITH HIGHS TODAY ONLY INTO THE MID AND UPPER 30S NORTH TO AROUND 40 SOUTH. WITH LINGERING CLOUDS TONIGHT...EXPECT MIN READINGS TOWARD THE HIGHER END OF GUIDANCE IN THE UPPER 20S TO AROUND 30. HOWEVER... IF SOME CLEARING DEVELOPS OVER THE SW TEMPS COULD FALL OFF QUICKLY TO NEAR 20. .LONG TERM...(MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY) ISSUED AT 443 AM EST SUN NOV 4 2012 THE 500MB WAVE CURRENTLY OVER SW CANADA WILL BE OVER THE CENTRAL PLAINS BY DAYBREAK MONDAY...WITH A REINFORCING LOW SWINGING OVER SE CANADA FROM HUDSON BAY. IN BETWEEN THESE 2 SYSTEMS UPPER MI WILL REMAIN UNDER HIGH PRESSURE AT THE SFC AND ALOFT. SW WINDS WILL BE ON THE INCREASE MONDAY NIGHT /850MB WINDS OF 20-30KTS WITH 850MB TEMPS RISING FROM -6C TO -2C/...IN ADVANCE OF THE NEARING LOW FROM THE NW. PRECIPITATION WILL BEGIN LATE MONDAY EVENING...AND BECOME LIKELY ACROSS THE ENTIRE AREA AROUND DAYBREAK TUESDAY. AROUND AN INCH OF WET SNOW WILL BE POSSIBLE MONDAY NIGHT INTO TUESDAY MORNING OVER THE HIGHER TERRAIN OF MQT...AND SE BARAGA...AND NE IRON COUNTIES...WITH THE HELP OF A POCKET OF COOLER AIR WITH SFC TEMPS EXPECTED TO REMAIN IN THE 30S THROUGH THE DAY TUESDAY. S WINDS OFF LAKE MI COULD BECOME BREEZY AT TIMES OVER THE E HALF NEAR THE GREAT LAKES SHORELINES...BUT BELOW ANY ADVISORY VALUES. THE BULK OF THE MOISTURE SHOULD EXIT TUESDAY EVENING AS THE S EXTENT OF THE ELONGATED LOW STRETCHING FROM NE MANITOBA THROUGH E LAKE SUPERIOR EXITS EASTWARD AND TEMPORARILY GETS REPLACED BY A RIDGE FROM THE SW. WHILE TIMING OF THE VARIOUS FCST MODELS IS STILL A LITTLE UNCERTAIN...THEY ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE 500MB LOW OR TROUGH DIGGING ACROSS THE UPPER GREAT LAKES TUESDAY NIGHT AND INTENSIFYING OFF THE MID ATLANTIC AS IT MERGES WITH ANOTHER WAVE ON THE S EDGE OF THE LARGER TROUGH THAT COVERS THE E HALF OF THE NATION. LAKE EFFECT/LAKE ENHANCED CLOUDS AND PRECIP SHOULD LINGER INTO WEDNESDAY...WITH THE POTENTIAL FOR BOTH RAIN AND SNOW CONTINUING. OTHERWISE FOR THE END OF THE WORK WEEK...WITH HIGH PRESSURE OVERHEAD IN BETWEEN A STRONGER SYSTEM OFF THE EASTERN SEABOARD AND ANOTHER LOW DEVELOPING OFF THE ROCKIES. && .AVIATION...(FOR THE 12Z TAFS THROUGH 12Z MONDAY MORNING) ISSUED AT 644 AM EST SUN NOV 4 2012 WITH LIGHT NNE FLOW OFF OF LAKE SUPERIOR ON THE SOUTHERN FLANK OF HIGH PRES IN ONTARIO AND A SHARP SUBSIDENCE INVERSION...EXPECT MVFR CIGS TO PERSIST THIS FCST PERIOD. THE BEST CHANCE FOR VFR CONDITIONS WILL BE THIS AFTERNOON AT IWD...WHERE THE COMBINATION OF DIURNAL HEATING AND DOWNSLOPING NE FLOW WILL HAVE A BETTER CHANCE OF DISSIPATING THE LOW CLOUDS. && .MARINE...(FOR THE 4 AM LAKE SUPERIOR FORECAST ISSUANCE) ISSUED AT 443 AM EST SUN NOV 4 2012 AS HIGH PRESSURE OVER NORTHWEST ONTARIO SLIDES SOUTHEAST THROUGH THE UPPER GREAT LAKES THROUGH MONDAY...EXPECT WINDS TO BE LIGHT AND LESS THAN 15KTS. A LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM MOVING THROUGH CENTRAL CANADA ON TUESDAY WILL SWEEP A SURFACE TROUGH ACROSS THE UPPER GREAT LAKES REGION AND BRING INCREASING SOUTHWESTERLY WINDS TO 20-30 KTS. A WEAK HIGH PRESSURE RIDGE WILL THEN SLIDE INTO THE UPPER GREAT LAKES WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON AND REMAIN INTO FRIDAY. && .MQT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... UPPER MICHIGAN... NONE. LAKE SUPERIOR... NONE. LAKE MICHIGAN... NONE. && $$ UPDATE...SRF SHORT TERM...JLB LONG TERM...KF AVIATION...JLB MARINE...JLB
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS MARQUETTE MI
645 AM EST SUN NOV 4 2012 .SHORT TERM...(TODAY AND TONIGHT) ISSUED AT 443 AM EST SUN NOV 4 2012 WV IMAGERY AND RUC ANALYSIS INDICATED A LONGWAVE PATTERN WITH A MID/UPPER LEVEL RIDGE INTO THE WRN CONUS AND A TROUGH OVER THE EAST. A SHRTWV TROUGH WAS LOCATED OVER NE IA WHILE A RIDGE EXTENDED FROM NORTH DAKOTA INTO NE MANITOBA LEAVING WEAK NRLY FLOW THROUGH THE NRN GREAT LAKES. AT THE SFC...HIGH PRES EXTENDED FROM NRN MANITOBA AND NW ONTARIO THROUGH WRN LAKE SUPERIOR INTO WI RESULTING IN ACYC NRLY FLOW ACROSS LAKE SUPERIOR AND UPPER MI. SHALLOW MOISTURE TRAPPED BELOW A 2K-3K FT INVERSION WITH 925 MB TEMPS TO AROUND -6C HAS PROVIDED ENOUGH INSTABILITY TO SUPPORT ISOLATED LAKE EFFECT FLURRIES INTO N CNTRL UPPER MI. OTHERWISE...IR LOOP SHOWED LOW CLOUDS ACROSS NRN ONTARIO THROUGH THE CWA. SATELLITE TRENDS AND MODELS 925 RH SUGGEST THAT...SIMILAR TO YESTERDAY...THE LOW CLOUDS WILL PERSIST OVER THE AREA GIVEN LITTLE CHANGE IN THE TEMP PROFILE AND ONLY A GRADUAL WIND SHIFT. THERE MAY BE SOME AFTERNOON CLEARING AGAIN OVER THE SOUTHWEST...WHERE MIXING MAY HELP PUSH THE EDGE OF THE CLOUDS BACK TO THE NORTHEAST. EVEN THOUGH INSTABILITY AND THE WIND FIELDS REMAIN WEAK...SOME ISOLATED/INTERMITTENT FLURRIES WILL REMAIN POSSIBLE OVER N CNTRL UPPER MI INTO THIS EVENING AS WINDS GRADUALLY VEER TO THE EAST...PER HIGH RES MODELS. THE CLOUDS SHOULD ALSO KEEP TEMPS IN A NARROW RANGE WITH HIGHS TODAY ONLY INTO THE MID AND UPPER 30S NORTH TO AROUND 40 SOUTH. WITH LINGERING CLOUDS TONIGHT...EXPECT MIN READINGS TOWARD THE HIGHER END OF GUIDANCE IN THE UPPER 20S TO AROUND 30. HOWEVER... IF SOME CLEARING DEVELOPS OVER THE SW TEMPS COULD FALL OFF QUICKLY TO NEAR 20. .LONG TERM...(MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY) ISSUED AT 443 AM EST SUN NOV 4 2012 THE 500MB WAVE CURRENTLY OVER SW CANADA WILL BE OVER THE CENTRAL PLAINS BY DAYBREAK MONDAY...WITH A REINFORCING LOW SWINGING OVER SE CANADA FROM HUDSON BAY. IN BETWEEN THESE 2 SYSTEMS UPPER MI WILL REMAIN UNDER HIGH PRESSURE AT THE SFC AND ALOFT. SW WINDS WILL BE ON THE INCREASE MONDAY NIGHT /850MB WINDS OF 20-30KTS WITH 850MB TEMPS RISING FROM -6C TO -2C/...IN ADVANCE OF THE NEARING LOW FROM THE NW. PRECIPITATION WILL BEGIN LATE MONDAY EVENING...AND BECOME LIKELY ACROSS THE ENTIRE AREA AROUND DAYBREAK TUESDAY. AROUND AN INCH OF WET SNOW WILL BE POSSIBLE MONDAY NIGHT INTO TUESDAY MORNING OVER THE HIGHER TERRAIN OF MQT...AND SE BARAGA...AND NE IRON COUNTIES...WITH THE HELP OF A POCKET OF COOLER AIR WITH SFC TEMPS EXPECTED TO REMAIN IN THE 30S THROUGH THE DAY TUESDAY. S WINDS OFF LAKE MI COULD BECOME BREEZY AT TIMES OVER THE E HALF NEAR THE GREAT LAKES SHORELINES...BUT BELOW ANY ADVISORY VALUES. THE BULK OF THE MOISTURE SHOULD EXIT TUESDAY EVENING AS THE S EXTENT OF THE ELONGATED LOW STRETCHING FROM NE MANITOBA THROUGH E LAKE SUPERIOR EXITS EASTWARD AND TEMPORARILY GETS REPLACED BY A RIDGE FROM THE SW. WHILE TIMING OF THE VARIOUS FCST MODELS IS STILL A LITTLE UNCERTAIN...THEY ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE 500MB LOW OR TROUGH DIGGING ACROSS THE UPPER GREAT LAKES TUESDAY NIGHT AND INTENSIFYING OFF THE MID ATLANTIC AS IT MERGES WITH ANOTHER WAVE ON THE S EDGE OF THE LARGER TROUGH THAT COVERS THE E HALF OF THE NATION. LAKE EFFECT/LAKE ENHANCED CLOUDS AND PRECIP SHOULD LINGER INTO WEDNESDAY...WITH THE POTENTIAL FOR BOTH RAIN AND SNOW CONTINUING. OTHERWISE FOR THE END OF THE WORK WEEK...WITH HIGH PRESSURE OVERHEAD IN BETWEEN A STRONGER SYSTEM OFF THE EASTERN SEABOARD AND ANOTHER LOW DEVELOPING OFF THE ROCKIES. && .AVIATION...(FOR THE 12Z TAFS THROUGH 12Z MONDAY MORNING) ISSUED AT 644 AM EST SUN NOV 4 2012 WITH LIGHT NNE FLOW OFF OF LAKE SUPERIOR ON THE SOUTHERN FLANK OF HIGH PRES IN ONTARIO AND A SHARP SUBSIDENCE INVERSION...EXPECT MVFR CIGS TO PERSIST THIS FCST PERIOD. THE BEST CHANCE FOR VFR CONDITIONS WILL BE THIS AFTERNOON AT IWD...WHERE THE COMBINATION OF DIURNAL HEATING AND DOWNSLOPING NE FLOW WILL HAVE A BETTER CHANCE OF DISSIPATING THE LOW CLOUDS. && .MARINE...(FOR THE 4 AM LAKE SUPERIOR FORECAST ISSUANCE) ISSUED AT 443 AM EST SUN NOV 4 2012 AS HIGH PRESSURE OVER NORTHWEST ONTARIO SLIDES SOUTHEAST THROUGH THE UPPER GREAT LAKES THROUGH MONDAY...EXPECT WINDS TO BE LIGHT AND LESS THAN 15KTS. A LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM MOVING THROUGH CENTRAL CANADA ON TUESDAY WILL SWEEP A SURFACE TROUGH ACROSS THE UPPER GREAT LAKES REGION AND BRING INCREASING SOUTHWESTERLY WINDS TO 20-30 KTS. A WEAK HIGH PRESSURE RIDGE WILL THEN SLIDE INTO THE UPPER GREAT LAKES WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON AND REMAIN INTO FRIDAY. && .MQT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... UPPER MICHIGAN... NONE. LAKE SUPERIOR... NONE. LAKE MICHIGAN... NONE. && $$ SHORT TERM...JLB LONG TERM...KF AVIATION...JLB MARINE...JLB
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS MARQUETTE MI
447 AM EST SUN NOV 4 2012 .SHORT TERM...(TODAY AND TONIGHT) ISSUED AT 443 AM EST SUN NOV 4 2012 WV IMAGERY AND RUC ANALYSIS INDICATED A LONGWAVE PATTERN WITH A MID/UPPER LEVEL RIDGE INTO THE WRN CONUS AND A TROUGH OVER THE EAST. A SHRTWV TROUGH WAS LOCATED OVER NE IA WHILE A RIDGE EXTENDED FROM NORTH DAKOTA INTO NE MANITOBA LEAVING WEAK NRLY FLOW THROUGH THE NRN GREAT LAKES. AT THE SFC...HIGH PRES EXTENDED FROM NRN MANITOBA AND NW ONTARIO THROUGH WRN LAKE SUPERIOR INTO WI RESULTING IN ACYC NRLY FLOW ACROSS LAKE SUPERIOR AND UPPER MI. SHALLOW MOISTURE TRAPPED BELOW A 2K-3K FT INVERSION WITH 925 MB TEMPS TO AROUND -6C HAS PROVIDED ENOUGH INSTABILITY TO SUPPORT ISOLATED LAKE EFFECT FLURRIES INTO N CNTRL UPPER MI. OTHERWISE...IR LOOP SHOWED LOW CLOUDS ACROSS NRN ONTARIO THROUGH THE CWA. SATELLITE TRENDS AND MODELS 925 RH SUGGEST THAT...SIMILAR TO YESTERDAY...THE LOW CLOUDS WILL PERSIST OVER THE AREA GIVEN LITTLE CHANGE IN THE TEMP PROFILE AND ONLY A GRADUAL WIND SHIFT. THERE MAY BE SOME AFTERNOON CLEARING AGAIN OVER THE SOUTHWEST...WHERE MIXING MAY HELP PUSH THE EDGE OF THE CLOUDS BACK TO THE NORTHEAST. EVEN THOUGH INSTABILITY AND THE WIND FIELDS REMAIN WEAK...SOME ISOLATED/INTERMITTENT FLURRIES WILL REMAIN POSSIBLE OVER N CNTRL UPPER MI INTO THIS EVENING AS WINDS GRADUALLY VEER TO THE EAST...PER HIGH RES MODELS. THE CLOUDS SHOULD ALSO KEEP TEMPS IN A NARROW RANGE WITH HIGHS TODAY ONLY INTO THE MID AND UPPER 30S NORTH TO AROUND 40 SOUTH. WITH LINGERING CLOUDS TONIGHT...EXPECT MIN READINGS TOWARD THE HIGHER END OF GUIDANCE IN THE UPPER 20S TO AROUND 30. HOWEVER... IF SOME CLEARING DEVELOPS OVER THE SW TEMPS COULD FALL OFF QUICKLY TO NEAR 20. .LONG TERM...(MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY) ISSUED AT 443 AM EST SUN NOV 4 2012 THE 500MB WAVE CURRENTLY OVER SW CANADA WILL BE OVER THE CENTRAL PLAINS BY DAYBREAK MONDAY...WITH A REINFORCING LOW SWINGING OVER SE CANADA FROM HUDSON BAY. IN BETWEEN THESE 2 SYSTEMS UPPER MI WILL REMAIN UNDER HIGH PRESSURE AT THE SFC AND ALOFT. SW WINDS WILL BE ON THE INCREASE MONDAY NIGHT /850MB WINDS OF 20-30KTS WITH 850MB TEMPS RISING FROM -6C TO -2C/...IN ADVANCE OF THE NEARING LOW FROM THE NW. PRECIPITATION WILL BEGIN LATE MONDAY EVENING...AND BECOME LIKELY ACROSS THE ENTIRE AREA AROUND DAYBREAK TUESDAY. AROUND AN INCH OF WET SNOW WILL BE POSSIBLE MONDAY NIGHT INTO TUESDAY MORNING OVER THE HIGHER TERRAIN OF MQT...AND SE BARAGA...AND NE IRON COUNTIES...WITH THE HELP OF A POCKET OF COOLER AIR WITH SFC TEMPS EXPECTED TO REMAIN IN THE 30S THROUGH THE DAY TUESDAY. S WINDS OFF LAKE MI COULD BECOME BREEZY AT TIMES OVER THE E HALF NEAR THE GREAT LAKES SHORELINES...BUT BELOW ANY ADVISORY VALUES. THE BULK OF THE MOISTURE SHOULD EXIT TUESDAY EVENING AS THE S EXTENT OF THE ELONGATED LOW STRETCHING FROM NE MANITOBA THROUGH E LAKE SUPERIOR EXITS EASTWARD AND TEMPORARILY GETS REPLACED BY A RIDGE FROM THE SW. WHILE TIMING OF THE VARIOUS FCST MODELS IS STILL A LITTLE UNCERTAIN...THEY ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE 500MB LOW OR TROUGH DIGGING ACROSS THE UPPER GREAT LAKES TUESDAY NIGHT AND INTENSIFYING OFF THE MID ATLANTIC AS IT MERGES WITH ANOTHER WAVE ON THE S EDGE OF THE LARGER TROUGH THAT COVERS THE E HALF OF THE NATION. LAKE EFFECT/LAKE ENHANCED CLOUDS AND PRECIP SHOULD LINGER INTO WEDNESDAY...WITH THE POTENTIAL FOR BOTH RAIN AND SNOW CONTINUING. OTHERWISE FOR THE END OF THE WORK WEEK...WITH HIGH PRESSURE OVERHEAD IN BETWEEN A STRONGER SYSTEM OFF THE EASTERN SEABOARD AND ANOTHER LOW DEVELOPING OFF THE ROCKIES. && .AVIATION...(FOR THE 06Z TAFS THROUGH 06Z SUNDAY NIGHT) ISSUED AT 125 AM EDT SUN NOV 4 2012 WITH LIGHT NNE FLOW OFF LK SUP ON SRN FLANK OF HI PRES IN ONTARIO AND SHARP SUBSIDENCE INVRN SHOWN ON SEVERAL LOCAL 00Z RAOBS...EXPECT MVFR CIGS TO DOMINATE THIS FCST PERIOD. THE BEST CHC FOR VFR CONDITIONS WL BE SUN AFTN AT IWD...WHERE THE COMBINATION OF DIURNAL HEATING/DOWNSLOPING NE FLOW WL HAVE A BETTER CHC OF DISSIPATING THE LO CLD. && .MARINE...(FOR THE 4 AM LAKE SUPERIOR FORECAST ISSUANCE) ISSUED AT 443 AM EST SUN NOV 4 2012 AS HIGH PRESSURE OVER NORTHWEST ONTARIO SLIDES SOUTHEAST THROUGH THE UPPER GREAT LAKES THROUGH MONDAY...EXPECT WINDS TO BE LIGHT AND LESS THAN 15KTS. A LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM MOVING THROUGH CENTRAL CANADA ON TUESDAY WILL SWEEP A SURFACE TROUGH ACROSS THE UPPER GREAT LAKES REGION AND BRING INCREASING SOUTHWESTERLY WINDS TO 20-30 KTS. A WEAK HIGH PRESSURE RIDGE WILL THEN SLIDE INTO THE UPPER GREAT LAKES WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON AND REMAIN INTO FRIDAY. && .MQT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... UPPER MICHIGAN... NONE. LAKE SUPERIOR... NONE. LAKE MICHIGAN... NONE. && $$ SHORT TERM...JLB LONG TERM...KF AVIATION...KC MARINE...JLB
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS DETROIT/PONTIAC MI
116 AM EDT SUN NOV 4 2012 .AVIATION... //DISCUSSION... PERIOD OF STRATUS EROSION SEEMS TO HAVE ENDED AND CIGS BETWEEN 2500 AND 3500 FEET AS FILLING BACK IN WITHIN LIGHT WIND REGIME AND MOST LIKELY AN ASSIST BY WEAK VVELS IN ADVANCE OF APPROACHING SHORTWAVE. WILL DO AN ABOUT FACE AND INCLUDE MVFR CIGS INTO THE 12Z-14Z PERIOD AND THEN BRING SOME CLEARING...OF LOWER LEVEL MOISTURE...IN THE WAKE OF THIS WAVE. THIS IS SOMEWHAT IFFY GIVEN CONTINUED LIGHT NORTH FLOW. AT DTW...SCT-BKN 3000-3500 FOOT STRATUS WILL LIKELY FILL IN FURTHER OVERNIGHT AND PERSIST INTO SUNDAY MORNING BEFORE BREAKING UP AGAIN SOMEWHAT WITHIN WEAK SUBSIDENCE IN WAKE OF A PASSING SHORTWAVE WHICH WILL PROGRESS THROUGH THE OHIO VALLEY DURING THE DAY. //DTW THRESHOLD THREATS... * HIGH CONFIDENCE IN CEILINGS BELOW 5000 FEET AT TIMES INTO EARLY SUNDAY MORNING. && .PREV DISCUSSION...ISSUED 337 PM EDT SAT NOV 3 2012 SHORT TERM...THIS EVENING AND TONIGHT A STABLE SURFACE RIDGE WILL MAINTAIN A FIRM GRASP OF SOUTHEASTERN MICHIGAN THROUGHOUT THE NIGHT. NAM AND RAP ARE SHOWING A RIBBON OF VORTICITY ENERGY SHEARING OUT OF THE ND/MN ANOMALY...STRINGING INTO SOUTHERN LOWER MICHIGAN FROM THE WEST. MODEL SOLUTIONS ARE ALSO DEPICTING A WING OF 700-500MB FRONTOGENSIS SLIDING OVER THE CWA. THIS FORCING IS NOW DRIVING THE REFLECTIVITY RETURNS OVER PORTIONS OF SOUTHERN WISCONSIN/ILLINOIS/LAKE MICHIGAN. FORECAST SOUNDINGS SHOW A SATURATED/WEAK LAPSE RATE LAYER BETWEEN 15-20 KFT AGL OVERNIGHT DUE TO THIS FORCING...NECESSITATING AN INCREASED MENTION OF CLOUDS. A DEEP DRY SLAB WILL REMAIN IN PLACE BETWEEN 4-15 KFT AGL...WITH NO REAL SHOT AT ANY PRECIPITATION. THIS IS IN AGREEMENT WITH THE LACK OF SFC HYDROMETEORS BEING REPORTED IN UPSTREAM OBSERVATIONS. GIVEN THE PERSISTENCE OF THE NORTHERLY FLOW TRAJECTORY...WILL BUMP TEMPERATURES UPWARD A DEGREE OR TWO FOR THE FAR EASTERN CWA. TEMPERATURES LAST NIGHT WERE ABLE TO HANG ON FOR A FEW LOCATIONS...MOST NOTABLY THE BULK OF THE THUMB. OTHERWISE...DO NOT WANT TO GET TOO CARRIED AWAY WITH RAISING MINIMUMS...GIVEN THE COLD SURFACE RIDGE AND NOTHING MORE THAN HIGH CLOUD CONCERNS. LONG TERM...SUNDAY THROUGH NEXT SATURDAY A SURFACE RIDGE LOCATED OVER THE WESTERN GREAT LAKES WILL MAINTAIN CONTROL OVER THE WEATHER ACROSS THE REGION THROUGH THE PERIOD AS IT SLOWLY MOVES EAST THROUGH THE GREAT LAKES THROUGH MONDAY. COOL AIR ALOFT COMBINED WITH SINKING MOTION FROM THE HIGH WILL KEEP MIXING HEIGHTS SHALLOW DURING THIS PERIOD...MAINTAINING COLDER THAN NORMAL TEMPERATURES THROUGH EARLY NEXT WEEK. ONE INTERESTING FEATURE THE NWP MODELS CONTINUE TO KEY IN ON IS LAKE EFFECT OVER SOUTHERN LAKE HURON BRINGING LIGHT PRECIPITATION TO THE THUMB REGION SUNDAY THROUGH MONDAY. HOWEVER CLOSER INSPECTION SHOWS A VERY SHALLOW INVERSION LEVEL AROUND 3-4K FEET WITH ABUNDANT DRY AIR ABOVE 850 MB. THE SHALLOW INVERSION HEIGHTS...DRY AIR AND RATHER UNIMPRESSIVE DELTA T VALUES LEND ITSELF TO A CONTINUED DRY FORECAST WITH INCREASED CLOUDINESS OVER THIS AREA BEING THE EXPECTED RESULT OF THE FLOW OFF LAKE HURON DURING THIS PERIOD. AS THE HIGH MOVES OFF TO THE EAST...A TROUGH WILL DIG INTO THE WESTERN GREAT LAKES REGION ON TUESDAY...TRACKING THROUGH THE CENTRAL GREAT LAKES TUESDAY NIGHT AND LIFTING OUT ON WEDNESDAY. THIS SHORTWAVE WILL BE OF PACIFIC ORIGIN...WITH NO WAY TO TAP INTO THE MOISTURE FROM THE LARGE NOREASTER TRACKING ALONG THE ATLANTIC SEABOARD DURING THIS SAME TIME PERIOD. THEREFORE WILL CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN LOW CHANCY POPS DURING THIS PERIOD AS THIS SYSTEM WILL BE SEVERELY MOISTURE STARVED. TEMPERATURES WILL CONTINUE TO BE ON THE COOL SIDE AS THE SYSTEM FAILS TO PULL IN WARMER AIR FROM THE SOUTH INTO THE CENTRAL GREAT LAKES. LARGE SCALE RIDGING WILL DOMINATE THE WEATHER ACROSS THE GREAT LAKES DURING THE LATE PART OF THE WORK WEEK AND INTO EARLY NEXT WEEKEND...KEEPING THE WEATHER DRY. THE RIDGING WILL ALSO PULL IN SOME WARMER AIR FROM THE WEST AS 850 MB TEMPERATURES WARM FROM THE SINGLE DIGITS BELOW ZERO TO THE SINGLE DIGITS ABOVE ZERO AND EVENTUALLY AROUND +10 CELSIUS BY SATURDAY. THIS WILL BRING A GRADUAL WARMUP THROUGH EARLY NEXT WEEKEND AS NEXT SATURDAYS HIGHS ARE FORECAST TO EXCEED NORMAL LEVELS. MARINE... NORTHERLY WINDS WILL DECREASE TO 15 KNOTS OR BELOW BY LATE EVENING...HOWEVER GIVEN THE CONTINUED NORTHERLY DIRECTION...WAVE HEIGHTS WILL BE SLOW TO SUBSIDE. WAVE HEIGHTS LOOK TO FALL BELOW 5 FEET OVERNIGHT. FAIRLY QUIET CONDITIONS ARE THEN EXPECTED LATE SUNDAY THROUGH MONDAY AS THE HIGH SINKS DOWN OVER THE AREA. && .DTX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... MI...NONE. LAKE HURON... SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY...NEARSHORE WATERS FROM PORT AUSTIN TO PORT SANILAC...UNTIL 4 AM SUNDAY. LAKE ST CLAIR...NONE. MI WATERS OF LAKE ERIE...NONE. && $$ AVIATION.....DG SHORT TERM...CB LONG TERM....KURIMSKI MARINE.......CB YOU CAN OBTAIN YOUR LATEST NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE FORECASTS ONLINE AT WWW.WEATHER.GOV/DETROIT (ALL LOWER CASE).
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS ST LOUIS MO
233 PM CST SUN NOV 4 2012 .SHORT TERM... ISSUED AT 233 PM CST SUN NOV 4 2012 (TONIGHT) POTENT LITTLE SHORTWAVE IS DEVELOPING OVER NORTHEAST MONTANA...AND WILL DIVE SOUTHEAST THROUGH THE GREAT PLAINS TONIGHT. THE SURFACE REFLECTION OF THIS WAVE WILL LIKEWISE DROP SOUTHEAST INTO THE PLAINS AND LINK UP WITH A BROAD/RELATIVELY WEAK AREA OF LOW PRESSURE CURRENTLY SITTING OVER KANSAS. THE COMBINED SURFACE TROF WILL STRENGTHEN SLIGHTLY AS IT MOVES INTO NORTHWEST MISSOURI LATE TONIGHT. MODELS ARE IN GOOD AGREEMENT IN SPREADING A SWATH OF RAIN OUT SOUTHEAST AHEAD OF THE SHORTWAVE. THE ONSET OF PRECIP LOOKS FASTER THAN PREVIOUSLY THOUGHT...THE HRRR IS ESPECIALLY FAST BRINGING PRECIP INTO CENTRAL MO AS EARLY AS 03Z...AND SPREADING TO NEAR THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER BY 06Z. AM STICKING CLOSER TO THE OPERATIONAL NAM AND GFS SOLUTIONS WHICH ARE 3-6HRS SLOWER...BUT WILL BRIEF THE EVENING SHIFT TO WATCH FOR A FASTER ONSET OF RAIN. CARNEY && .LONG TERM... ISSUED AT 233 PM CST SUN NOV 4 2012 (MONDAY THROUGH SUNDAY) NORTHWEST FLOW ALIVE AND WELL ACROSS THE CENTER OF THE NATION AS A DEEP LONGWAVE TROF CONTINUES TO BE CARVED OUT ACROSS THE EASTERN CONUS. SHORTWAVE OF INTEREST IN THE SHORT TERM WILL CONTINUE TO DIVE SOUTHEAST INTO THE BASE OF THIS LONGWAVE TROF AND BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF A POWERFUL STORM SYSTEM THAT WILL MOVE UP THE EAST COAST DURING THE MIDDLE PORTION OF THIS WEEK. THIS WILL CERTAINLY BE THE NATIONS WEATHER STORY...AS THE NOR`EASTER BRINGS STRONG WIND...RAIN...AND EVEN SOME WINTER WEATHER TO AREAS STILL REELING FROM SANDY. MONDAY AND MONDAY NIGHT... MODEL GUIDANCE IN VERY GOOD AGREEMENT REGARDING THE TRACK OF THE SHORTWAVE ACROSS MISSOURI. AREA OF LIGHT RAIN WILL WORK ITS WAY SOUTH ACROSS THE REGION WITH THICK CLOUD COVER AND CHILLY TEMPERATURES. HAVE WENT A DEGREE OR TWO BELOW THE LOWEST MODEL GUIDANCE. RAIN SHOULD PUSH SOUTH OF THE AREA BY MONDAY NIGHT...BUT CLOUDS WILL HANG TOUGH IN THE WAKE OF THIS SYSTEM. HAVE KEPT TEMPERATURES WARMER THAN GUIDANCE WOULD SUGGEST...WITH A LIMITED DIURNAL TEMPERATURE SWING. TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY... A FINAL SHORTWAVE...THE CABOOSE...WILL TRACK ACROSS THE WESTERN GREAT LAKES...PUSHING A FINAL COLD FRONT ACROSS THE AREA. LIMITED MOISTURE AND AN EASTERN TRACK TO THE DISTURBANCE KEEPS POPS AT SLIGHT CHANCE AND CONFINED TO ILLINOIS COUNTIES. SURFACE RIDGE OF HIGH PRESSURE WILL THEN BUILD ACROSS THE CWA ON WEDNESDAY WITH DRY WEATHER AND SEASONAL TEMPERATURES. THURSDAY THROUGH SUNDAY... THE UPPER AIR PATTERN WILL FINALLY TRANSITION BY WEEKS END AS A MASSIVE STORM SYSTEM CARVES A LONGWAVE TROF ACROSS THE WESTERN CONUS WHICH HELPS AMPLIFY A RIDGE DOWNSTREAM ACROSS THE EASTERN CONUS. THE END RESULT WILL BE SOUTHWEST FLOW ACROSS THE MIDWEST AND ABOVE NORMAL TEMPERATURES. THIS LARGE UPPER TROF WILL BE PROGRESSIVE WITH RAIN CHANCES INCREASING SUNDAY AND SUNDAY NIGHT. CVKING && .AVIATION... ISSUED AT 1141 AM CST SUN NOV 4 2012 VFR FLIGHT CONDITIONS AND LIGHT VARIABLE WIND WILL PREVAIL THIS AFTERNOON AS HIGH PRESSURE DRIFTS ACROSS THE AREA. THERE MAY BE A SPRINKLE OR TWO OUT OF A MID CLOUD DECK STRETCHING ACROSS NORTHEAST MISSOURI...BUT EXPECT NO IMPACTS FROM THIS VERY LIGHT PRECIPITATION. A STORM WILL MOVE FROM THE NORTHERN GREAT PLAINS ACROSS THE MISSOURI VALLEY TONIGHT...BRINGING RAIN AND MVFR CIGS/VSBYS TO THE AREA BY MONDAY MORNING. WOULD NOT BE SURPRISED TO SEE AREAS OF IFR CIGS DEVELOP BEFORE 18Z MONDAY. SPECIFICS FOR KSTL... VFR FLIGHT CONDITIONS AND LIGHT VARIABLE WIND WILL PREVAIL AT LAMBERT THIS AFTERNOON AS HIGH PRESSURE DRIFTS ACROSS THE AREA. A STORM WILL MOVE FROM THE NORTHERN GREAT PLAINS ACROSS THE MISSOURI VALLEY TONIGHT...BRINGING RAIN AND MVFR CIGS/VSBYS TO THE TERMINAL BETWEEN 12Z AND 14Z MONDAY MORNING. WHILE NO IFR CONDITIONS ARE IN THE TAF AT THIS TIME...WOULD NOT BE SURPRISED TO SEE CIGS FALL TO IFR AFTER 18Z MONDAY AS THE STORM SYSTEM PASSES JUST TO THE WEST OF THE TERMINAL. CARNEY && .LSX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... MO...NONE. IL...NONE. && $$ WFO LSX
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION...UPDATED
NWS NORTH PLATTE NE
833 PM CST MON NOV 5 2012 .UPDATE... ISOLATED SHOWERS CONTINUE TO DEVELOP ACROSS WRN AND CNTL SD. IT LOOKS LIKE THERE IS ENOUGH MOISTURE ALOFT FOR SOME RAIN AT THE SFC BASED ON 00Z SOUNDINGS. OBSERVED STORM MOTION SHOULD CARRY THE LIGHT RAIN THRU NCNTL NEB OVERNIGHT. ALSO RAISED TEMPS A CATEGORY AS FAIRLY DENSE MID AND UPPER LEVEL CLOUDS SHOULD CONTINUE OVERNIGHT. && .PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 547 PM CST MON NOV 5 2012/ UPDATE... AVIATION... VFR IS EXPECTED MOST AREAS TONIGHT AND TUESDAY. A COLD FRONT WILL MOVE THROUGH TONIGHT WITH WINDS INCREASING AFTER 15Z TO 32025G35KT ACROSS NCNTL NEB EAST OF HIGHWAY 83. SPRINKLES HAVE DEVELOPED AHEAD OF THE FRONT THIS EVENING. VFR IS EXPECTED BENEATH THOSE RADAR RETURNS. ALSO...THE BANK OF MVFR CIGS ACROSS NCNTL NEB GETS SHOVED EAST AS THE COLD FRONT APPROACHES LATE TONIGHT...09Z- 12Z. NOTE THE RUC SUGGESTS SOME POTENTIAL FOR MVFR CIGS LATE TONIGHT WITH THE COLD FRONT. FOR NOW PLAN ON VFR. BEST GUESS ON MVFR CAN BE MADE AS THE FRONT GETS CLOSER THIS EVENING. PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 317 PM CST MON NOV 5 2012/ SYNOPSIS...ANALYSIS OF THE 19Z MSL DATA SHOWED A FRONTAL WAVE IN SOUTHERN SASKATCHEWAN. ASSOCIATED WITH THE SURFACE LOW...WATER VAPOR IMAGERY WAS SHOWING A POTENTIAL VORTICITY ANOMALY NEAR THE BOUNDARY BETWEEN EAST CENTRAL ALBERTA AND WEST CENTRAL SASKATCHEWAN. A SURFACE FRONT HAD MOVED OUT OF SOUTHERN ALBERTA AND SASKATCHEWAN INTO NORTHERN MONTANA. THERE WAS ALSO AN ABUNDANCE OF JETSTREAM-RELATED CIRRUS/CIRROSTRATUS STREAMING OVER THE MONTANA-WYOMING ROCKIES ON THE NORTHWEST FLOW. VISIBLE IMAGERY INDICATED SOME CUMULIFORM CLOUDINESS FROM CENTRAL TO SOUTHWEST NEBRASKA. SHORT TERM...A FRONT COMING OUT OF NORTHERN MONTANA WILL COME THROUGH NEBRASKA LATE TONIGHT TO EARLY TUESDAY AND BRING SOME PATCHY CLOUDINESS. THEN...RETURN FLOW WILL BRING THE FRONT BACK TOWARD THE EAST AGAIN TUESDAY NIGHT AND...WITH IT...SOME CLOUDINESS. TEMPERATURES TONIGHT WILL BE HELD TO THE MID TO UPPER 30S TONIGHT BY THE AREAS OF CLOUDINESS. WITH MORE SUNSHINE THAN TODAY AND BREEZIER CONDITIONS...TEMPERATURES TUESDAY WILL BE SOMEWHAT WARMER THAN TODAY. CLEARING SKY AND LIGHT WIND WILL LET TEMPERATURES FALL INTO THE 20S OVER THE AREA TUESDAY NIGHT. LONG TERM...A SIGNIFICANT LONG WAVE TROUGH IS STILL PROGGED TO PROGRESS EAST ACROSS THE THE PLAINS SATURDAY INTO SUNDAY. AHEAD OF THIS FEATURE...MILD WEATHER WILL CONTINUE...WITH HIGHS ABOVE NORMAL WEDNESDAY THROUGH FRIDAY. A DRASTIC CHANGE IN THE WEATHER WILL OCCUR SATURDAY...AS A STRONG COLD FRONT PLOWS SOUTHEAST ACROSS NEBRASKA. GUSTY NORTHWEST WINDS AND FALLING TEMPERATURES CAN BE EXPECTED BEHIND THE FRONT SATURDAY AFTERNOON...WITH LIGHT RAIN OR LIGHT SNOW DEVELOPING WITHIN AREA OF STRONG FRONTOGENESIS BEHIND THE FRONT. LIGHT SNOW WILL LINGER INTO SATURDAY NIGHT...AND SHOULD END BY SUNDAY MORNING AS HIGH PRESSURE BEGINS TO BUILD INTO THE AREA. IT IS STILL TOO EARLY TO KNOW EXACTLY HOW MUCH SNOW WILL ACCUMULATE...BUT ALL INDICATIONS ARE THAT AMOUNTS SHOULD BE LIGHT...WITH PERHAPS AN INCH OR TWO FALLING ACROSS NORTHWEST NEBRASKA. WILL CONTINUE TO MONITOR...AND UPDATE FORECASTS AS THE STORM SYSTEM GETS CLOSER. VERY CHILLY CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED SUNDAY...WITH MANY AREAS STRUGGLING TO REACH THE FREEZING MARK. SOME TEMPERATURE RECOVERY IS EXPECTED MONDAY AS THE COLDEST AIR MOVES EAST OF THE AREA. AVIATION... NO SIGNIFICANT RESTRICTIVE WEATHER IS EXPECTED TONIGHT THROUGH TUESDAY. CEILINGS...IF ANY...WILL BE AT OR ABOVE 5000 FEET AGL. WIND IS EXPECTED TO INCREASE TUESDAY. IN NORTH CENTRAL NEBRASKA...NEAR ONL...BUB...BBW AND ANW...THE WIND IS EXPECTED TO BE 310-330 INCREASING TO 20-23G26-30 BY 18Z. && .LBF WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...NONE. && $$ SHORT TERM/EXTENDED...MASEK AVIATION...CDC
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS OMAHA/VALLEY NE
633 PM CST MON NOV 5 2012 .DISCUSSION... TWEAKED THE FORECAST JUST SLIGHTLY TO BRING PRECIP CHANCES INTO NORTHEAST NEBRASKA A FEW HOURS EARLIER...BASED ON RADAR ECHOS MOVING OUT OF SOUTH DAKOTA AND NORTH CENTRAL NEBRASKA. ALSO TRIMMED THE BACK EDGE OF THE PRECIP JUST A BIT...AND BROUGHT IT JUST A LITTLE BIT FURTHER SOUTH. EITHER WAY...IT WILL LIKELY BE VERY VERY LIGHT...PERHAPS ONLY JUST TRACE AMOUNTS. ALSO TWEAKED THE WINDS UP A COUPLE OF KNOTS ON TUESDAY IN NORTHEAST NEBRASKA. WINDS MAY BE JUST SHY OF WIND ADVISORY CRITERIA IN NORTHEAST NEBRASKA AROUND 30 MPH SUSTAINED. DEWALD && .PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 524 PM CST MON NOV 5 2012/ AVIATION...06Z TAFS FOR KOMA...KLNK AND KOFK. LIFR CONDITIONS WILL PERSIST AT KOMA...AND JUST WHEN THESE LOW CLOUDS BREAK IS THE BIG QUESTION. BELIEVE IT MAY TAKE SEVERAL MORE HOURS UNTIL PERHAPS 09Z/10Z. MVFR CONDITIONS AT KLNK/KOFK EARLY IN THE PERIOD...BUT THESE CLOUDS SHOULD SCATTER OUT MUCH QUICKER BY 01/02Z. MEANWHILE...HIGH CLOUDS STREAMING OVER THE FORECAST AHEAD OF A COLD FRONT...THAT SHOULD ARRIVE AT KOFK BY 12Z...AND KLNK/KOMA BY 14Z. COULD BE A SPRINKLE OR TWO AT KOFK DURING THE OVERNIGHT HOURS...BUT NOT SIGNIFICANT ENOUGH TO ADD TO THE TAF JUST YET. LIGHT SOUTHERLY WINDS AHEAD OF THE FRONT...BECOMING SOUTHWEST...AND THEN EVENTUALLY NORTHWEST ONCE THE FRONT MOVES THROUGH. BEHIND THE FRONT...WINDS WILL LIKELY INCREASE TO SUSTAINED 20KTS...WITH GUSTS UP TO 30KTS BY 14/16Z. DEWALD PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 318 PM CST MON NOV 5 2012/ SHORT TERM...TONIGHT THROUGH THURSDAY. MAIN FORECAST CONCERN IS SMALL CHANCE FOR SHOWERS IN OUR NORTHEAST OVERNIGHT. LATEST WATER VAPOR IMAGERY AND RAP 500MB ANALYSIS SHOW THE REGION IN NORTHWESTERLY FLOW ALOFT WITH SHORTWAVE ENERGY QUICKLY DROPPING THROUGH THE SOUTHERN CANADIAN PRAIRIE PROVINCES. ASSOCIATED SFC LOW PRESSURE AREA CONTINUES TO QUICKLY MOVE SOUTHEAST AHEAD OF THIS UPPER FEATURE WITH WIDESPREAD SHOWERS ACROSS NORTH DAKOTA. THESE FEATURES WILL CONTINUE THEIR SOUTHWARD PROGRESSION AND SHOULD BRUSH THE NORTHEASTERN COUNTIES OVERNIGHT...MAINLY AFTER 06Z. HAVE ADDED A SMALL CHANCE FOR SHOWERS AS MOISTURE PROFILES ARE SLOW TO SATURATE LOWER LEVELS. IN ADDITION...ASSOCIATED SFC COLD FRONT WILL PUSH THROUGH THE FORECAST AREA TUESDAY MORNING. GOOD MOMENTUM TRANSFER SHOULD ALLOW GUSTY CONDITIONS INTO TUESDAY AFTERNOON BEHIND THE FRONT. HIGH TEMPERATURES SHOULD ONLY TOP OUT IN THE LOWER 50S ACROSS THE NORTHEASTERN CWA WITH UPPER 50S IN THE SOUTHWEST. SFC HIGH PRESSURE QUICKLY BUILDS IN WEDNESDAY MORNING BRINGING CLEAR AND CALM CONDITIONS. A GRADUAL WARMING TREND WEDNESDAY INTO THURSDAY IS EXPECTED AS A WESTERN RIDGE BUILDS EAST OVER THE AREA AND RETURN FLOW DEVELOPS AROUND SFC HIGH PRESSURE. KERN LONG TERM...THURSDAY NIGHT THROUGH MONDAY. LOOKS LIKE SOME ACTIVE WEATHER FOR THE WEEKEND WITH BIG SWINGS IN TEMPERATURES. THE EC/GFS/GEFS/CANADIAN ARE ALL IN FAIRLY GOOD AGREEMENT...WITH SOME TYPICALLY TIMING AND STRENGTH DIFFERENCES. THE FORECAST AREA WILL BE IN THE WARM SECTOR THURSDAY NIGHT WITH AN INVERTED TROF SETTLING INTO NORTHEAST NEBRASKA. THE GULF IS OPEN WITH H85 FLOW FROM TEXAS THROUGH THE PLAINS WITH THE DRY SLOT HEADING ACROSS NORTH CENTRAL KANSAS BY 12Z FRIDAY. THE SURFACE LOW INITIALLY OVER THE CENTRAL ROCKIES TRACKS NORTHEAST ALONG THE FRONT AND BY 18Z SATURDAY IS CENTERED SOMEWHERE BETWEEN EASTERN SOUTH DAKOTA/EASTERN NEBRASKA (GFS/EC/GEFS) OR MINNESOTA (CANADIAN). THE BULK OF THE PRECIPITATION WILL INITIALLY BE AHEAD OF...NORTH...AND TO THE WEST OF THE FORECAST AREA. SATURDAY NIGHT LOOKS TO BE THE BEST CHANCE FOR PRECIPITATION...ALTHOUGH THERE WILL BE LIFT/WAA DURING THE DAY SATURDAY. THE GFS HAS A SURGE OF HIGHER DEWPOINTS NEAR THE MISSOURI RIVER AND THEN LIFTING NORTH AND SHIFTING QUICKLY EAST. THE EC IS SLOWER WITH THE DEEP MOISTURE AND HOLDS ON TO THE HIGH 10 TO 12DEG C H85 DEWPOINTS. COMBINED WITH THE LIFT WITH THIS DYNAMIC SYSTEM THESE DIFFERENCES ACCOUNT FOR THE DIFFERENCES IN RESULTANT QPF WITH HIGHER PRECIPITATION AMOUNTS WITH THE EC. TEMPERATURES FRIDAY AND SATURDAY WILL BE IN THE 60S AND 70S AND MUCH COLDER FOR SUNDAY AND MONDAY WITH HIGHS IN THE 30S AND 40S. FOR NOW HAVE SOME CHANCE POPS SATURDAY AFTERNOON AND LIKELY POPS SATURDAY NIGHT AND DEPENDING ON IF THE SYSTEM SLOWS DOWN...SOME POPS INTO SUNDAY. WITH INSTABILITY AHEAD OF THE FRONT WILL INCLUDE THUNDER. THERE COULD BE A MIX IN THE NORTHEAST AS COLDER AIR WORKS INTO THE SYSTEM IN NORTHEAST NEBRASKA. SHOULD THERE BE LINGERING PRECIPITATION SUNDAY...THERE COULD BE A MIX OR MINOR ACCUMULATIONS SUNDAY. ZAPOTOCNY && .OAX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... NE...NONE. IA...NONE. && $$ 99/99
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION...UPDATED
NWS NORTH PLATTE NE
547 PM CST MON NOV 5 2012 .UPDATE... .AVIATION... VFR IS EXPECTED MOST AREAS TONIGHT AND TUESDAY. A COLD FRONT WILL MOVE THROUGH TONIGHT WITH WINDS INCREASING AFTER 15Z TO 32025G35KT ACROSS NCNTL NEB EAST OF HIGHWAY 83. SPRINKLES HAVE DEVELOPED AHEAD OF THE FRONT THIS EVENING. VFR IS EXPECTED BENEATH THOSE RADAR RETURNS. ALSO...THE BANK OF MVFR CIGS ACROSS NCNTL NEB GETS SHOVED EAST AS THE COLD FRONT APPROACHES LATE TONIGHT...09Z- 12Z. NOTE THE RUC SUGGESTS SOME POTENTIAL FOR MVFR CIGS LATE TONIGHT WITH THE COLD FRONT. FOR NOW PLAN ON VFR. BEST GUESS ON MVFR CAN BE MADE AS THE FRONT GETS CLOSER THIS EVENING. && .PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 317 PM CST MON NOV 5 2012/ SYNOPSIS...ANALYSIS OF THE 19Z MSL DATA SHOWED A FRONTAL WAVE IN SOUTHERN SASKATCHEWAN. ASSOCIATED WITH THE SURFACE LOW...WATER VAPOR IMAGERY WAS SHOWING A POTENTIAL VORTICITY ANOMALY NEAR THE BOUNDARY BETWEEN EAST CENTRAL ALBERTA AND WEST CENTRAL SASKATCHEWAN. A SURFACE FRONT HAD MOVED OUT OF SOUTHERN ALBERTA AND SASKATCHEWAN INTO NORTHERN MONTANA. THERE WAS ALSO AN ABUNDANCE OF JETSTREAM-RELATED CIRRUS/CIRROSTRATUS STREAMING OVER THE MONTANA-WYOMING ROCKIES ON THE NORTHWEST FLOW. VISIBLE IMAGERY INDICATED SOME CUMULIFORM CLOUDINESS FROM CENTRAL TO SOUTHWEST NEBRASKA. SHORT TERM...A FRONT COMING OUT OF NORTHERN MONTANA WILL COME THROUGH NEBRASKA LATE TONIGHT TO EARLY TUESDAY AND BRING SOME PATCHY CLOUDINESS. THEN...RETURN FLOW WILL BRING THE FRONT BACK TOWARD THE EAST AGAIN TUESDAY NIGHT AND...WITH IT...SOME CLOUDINESS. TEMPERATURES TONIGHT WILL BE HELD TO THE MID TO UPPER 30S TONIGHT BY THE AREAS OF CLOUDINESS. WITH MORE SUNSHINE THAN TODAY AND BREEZIER CONDITIONS...TEMPERATURES TUESDAY WILL BE SOMEWHAT WARMER THAN TODAY. CLEARING SKY AND LIGHT WIND WILL LET TEMPERATURES FALL INTO THE 20S OVER THE AREA TUESDAY NIGHT. LONG TERM...A SIGNIFICANT LONG WAVE TROUGH IS STILL PROGGED TO PROGRESS EAST ACROSS THE THE PLAINS SATURDAY INTO SUNDAY. AHEAD OF THIS FEATURE...MILD WEATHER WILL CONTINUE...WITH HIGHS ABOVE NORMAL WEDNESDAY THROUGH FRIDAY. A DRASTIC CHANGE IN THE WEATHER WILL OCCUR SATURDAY...AS A STRONG COLD FRONT PLOWS SOUTHEAST ACROSS NEBRASKA. GUSTY NORTHWEST WINDS AND FALLING TEMPERATURES CAN BE EXPECTED BEHIND THE FRONT SATURDAY AFTERNOON...WITH LIGHT RAIN OR LIGHT SNOW DEVELOPING WITHIN AREA OF STRONG FRONTOGENESIS BEHIND THE FRONT. LIGHT SNOW WILL LINGER INTO SATURDAY NIGHT...AND SHOULD END BY SUNDAY MORNING AS HIGH PRESSURE BEGINS TO BUILD INTO THE AREA. IT IS STILL TOO EARLY TO KNOW EXACTLY HOW MUCH SNOW WILL ACCUMULATE...BUT ALL INDICATIONS ARE THAT AMOUNTS SHOULD BE LIGHT...WITH PERHAPS AN INCH OR TWO FALLING ACROSS NORTHWEST NEBRASKA. WILL CONTINUE TO MONITOR...AND UPDATE FORECASTS AS THE STORM SYSTEM GETS CLOSER. VERY CHILLY CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED SUNDAY...WITH MANY AREAS STRUGGLING TO REACH THE FREEZING MARK. SOME TEMPERATURE RECOVERY IS EXPECTED MONDAY AS THE COLDEST AIR MOVES EAST OF THE AREA. AVIATION... NO SIGNIFICANT RESTRICTIVE WEATHER IS EXPECTED TONIGHT THROUGH TUESDAY. CEILINGS...IF ANY...WILL BE AT OR ABOVE 5000 FEET AGL. WIND IS EXPECTED TO INCREASE TUESDAY. IN NORTH CENTRAL NEBRASKA...NEAR ONL...BUB...BBW AND ANW...THE WIND IS EXPECTED TO BE 310-330 INCREASING TO 20-23G26-30 BY 18Z. && .LBF WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...NONE. && $$ SHORT TERM/EXTENDED...CDC AVIATION...CDC
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS OMAHA/VALLEY NE
524 PM CST MON NOV 5 2012 .AVIATION...06Z TAFS FOR KOMA...KLNK AND KOFK. LIFR CONDITIONS WILL PERSIST AT KOMA...AND JUST WHEN THESE LOW CLOUDS BREAK IS THE BIG QUESTION. BELIEVE IT MAY TAKE SEVERAL MORE HOURS UNTIL PERHAPS 09Z/10Z. MVFR CONDITIONS AT KLNK/KOFK EARLY IN THE PERIOD...BUT THESE CLOUDS SHOULD SCATTER OUT MUCH QUICKER BY 01/02Z. MEANWHILE...HIGH CLOUDS STREAMING OVER THE FORECAST AHEAD OF A COLD FRONT...THAT SHOULD ARRIVE AT KOFK BY 12Z...AND KLNK/KOMA BY 14Z. COULD BE A SPRINKLE OR TWO AT KOFK DURING THE OVERNIGHT HOURS...BUT NOT SIGNIFICANT ENOUGH TO ADD TO THE TAF JUST YET. LIGHT SOUTHERLY WINDS AHEAD OF THE FRONT...BECOMING SOUTHWEST...AND THEN EVENTUALLY NORTHWEST ONCE THE FRONT MOVES THROUGH. BEHIND THE FRONT...WINDS WILL LIKELY INCREASE TO SUSTAINED 20KTS...WITH GUSTS UP TO 30KTS BY 14/16Z. DEWALD && .PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 318 PM CST MON NOV 5 2012/ SHORT TERM...TONIGHT THROUGH THURSDAY. MAIN FORECAST CONCERN IS SMALL CHANCE FOR SHOWERS IN OUR NORTHEAST OVERNIGHT. LATEST WATER VAPOR IMAGERY AND RAP 500MB ANALYSIS SHOW THE REGION IN NORTHWESTERLY FLOW ALOFT WITH SHORTWAVE ENERGY QUICKLY DROPPING THROUGH THE SOUTHERN CANADIAN PRAIRIE PROVINCES. ASSOCIATED SFC LOW PRESSURE AREA CONTINUES TO QUICKLY MOVE SOUTHEAST AHEAD OF THIS UPPER FEATURE WITH WIDESPREAD SHOWERS ACROSS NORTH DAKOTA. THESE FEATURES WILL CONTINUE THEIR SOUTHWARD PROGRESSION AND SHOULD BRUSH THE NORTHEASTERN COUNTIES OVERNIGHT...MAINLY AFTER 06Z. HAVE ADDED A SMALL CHANCE FOR SHOWERS AS MOISTURE PROFILES ARE SLOW TO SATURATE LOWER LEVELS. IN ADDITION...ASSOCIATED SFC COLD FRONT WILL PUSH THROUGH THE FORECAST AREA TUESDAY MORNING. GOOD MOMENTUM TRANSFER SHOULD ALLOW GUSTY CONDITIONS INTO TUESDAY AFTERNOON BEHIND THE FRONT. HIGH TEMPERATURES SHOULD ONLY TOP OUT IN THE LOWER 50S ACROSS THE NORTHEASTERN CWA WITH UPPER 50S IN THE SOUTHWEST. SFC HIGH PRESSURE QUICKLY BUILDS IN WEDNESDAY MORNING BRINGING CLEAR AND CALM CONDITIONS. A GRADUAL WARMING TREND WEDNESDAY INTO THURSDAY IS EXPECTED AS A WESTERN RIDGE BUILDS EAST OVER THE AREA AND RETURN FLOW DEVELOPS AROUND SFC HIGH PRESSURE. KERN LONG TERM...THURSDAY NIGHT THROUGH MONDAY. LOOKS LIKE SOME ACTIVE WEATHER FOR THE WEEKEND WITH BIG SWINGS IN TEMPERATURES. THE EC/GFS/GEFS/CANADIAN ARE ALL IN FAIRLY GOOD AGREEMENT...WITH SOME TYPICALLY TIMING AND STRENGTH DIFFERENCES. THE FORECAST AREA WILL BE IN THE WARM SECTOR THURSDAY NIGHT WITH AN INVERTED TROF SETTLING INTO NORTHEAST NEBRASKA. THE GULF IS OPEN WITH H85 FLOW FROM TEXAS THROUGH THE PLAINS WITH THE DRY SLOT HEADING ACROSS NORTH CENTRAL KANSAS BY 12Z FRIDAY. THE SURFACE LOW INITIALLY OVER THE CENTRAL ROCKIES TRACKS NORTHEAST ALONG THE FRONT AND BY 18Z SATURDAY IS CENTERED SOMEWHERE BETWEEN EASTERN SOUTH DAKOTA/EASTERN NEBRASKA (GFS/EC/GEFS) OR MINNESOTA (CANADIAN). THE BULK OF THE PRECIPITATION WILL INITIALLY BE AHEAD OF...NORTH...AND TO THE WEST OF THE FORECAST AREA. SATURDAY NIGHT LOOKS TO BE THE BEST CHANCE FOR PRECIPITATION...ALTHOUGH THERE WILL BE LIFT/WAA DURING THE DAY SATURDAY. THE GFS HAS A SURGE OF HIGHER DEWPOINTS NEAR THE MISSOURI RIVER AND THEN LIFTING NORTH AND SHIFTING QUICKLY EAST. THE EC IS SLOWER WITH THE DEEP MOISTURE AND HOLDS ON TO THE HIGH 10 TO 12DEG C H85 DEWPOINTS. COMBINED WITH THE LIFT WITH THIS DYNAMIC SYSTEM THESE DIFFERENCES ACCOUNT FOR THE DIFFERENCES IN RESULTANT QPF WITH HIGHER PRECIPITATION AMOUNTS WITH THE EC. TEMPERATURES FRIDAY AND SATURDAY WILL BE IN THE 60S AND 70S AND MUCH COLDER FOR SUNDAY AND MONDAY WITH HIGHS IN THE 30S AND 40S. FOR NOW HAVE SOME CHANCE POPS SATURDAY AFTERNOON AND LIKELY POPS SATURDAY NIGHT AND DEPENDING ON IF THE SYSTEM SLOWS DOWN...SOME POPS INTO SUNDAY. WITH INSTABILITY AHEAD OF THE FRONT WILL INCLUDE THUNDER. THERE COULD BE A MIX IN THE NORTHEAST AS COLDER AIR WORKS INTO THE SYSTEM IN NORTHEAST NEBRASKA. SHOULD THERE BE LINGERING PRECIPITATION SUNDAY...THERE COULD BE A MIX OR MINOR ACCUMULATIONS SUNDAY. ZAPOTOCNY && .OAX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... NE...NONE. IA...NONE. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS GREENVILLE-SPARTANBURG SC
350 PM EST SUN NOV 4 2012 .SYNOPSIS... HIGH PRESSURE ON MONDAY WILL GIVE WAY TO A DEVELOPING COASTAL STORM MONDAY NIGHT AND TUESDAY. THIS NOREASTER WILL TRACK UP THE EAST COAST IN MID WEEK AS HIGH PRESSURE PREVAILS OVER OUR REGION FOR THE REST OF THE WEEK. && .NEAR TERM /THROUGH MONDAY/... SMALL AREA OF SHRA COINCIDENT WITH THE COLD FRONT ENTERING THE CWFA ATTM. RAP AND HRRR TAKE THIS AREA ACROSS NE GA AND THE UPSTATE AND EAST OF THE CWFA BY ABOUT 01Z. THIS LOOKS REASONABLE GIVEN CURRENT CONDITIONS. EXPECT ONLY A FEW HUNDREDTHS OF QPF AT MOST WITH THESE SHRA. SKIES SHUD CLEAR BEHIND THE PRECIP AS DRIER AIR WORKS IN BEHIND THE FRONT. A COOL AIR MASS MOVES IN AS WELL...BUT THE PRESSURE GRADIENT DOES NOT RELAX UNTIL NEARLY DAYBREAK AS HIGH PRESSURE BUILDS IN OVERNIGHT. STILL...EXPECT TEMPS A FEW DEGREES BELOW NORMAL...SO WITH CLEARING SKIES AND LIGHT WINDS...PATCHY FROST WILL DEVELOP ACROSS THE I-40 CORRIDOR. HIGH PRESSURE CONTINUES TO BUILD INTO THE AREA FROM THE NORTH ON MONDAY. THE BULK OF THE DAY SHUD BE MOSTLY SUNNY...BUT CLOUDS WILL INCREASE ACROSS THE WRN CWFA LATE IN THE DAY AHEAD OF THE NEXT WX SYSTEM. AFTER A INCREASE IN N TO NELY WINDS WITH MIXING...WINDS BECOME LIGHT FOR THE AFTERNOON. HIGHS WILL BE 5 TO 10 DEGREES BELOW NORMAL. && .SHORT TERM /MONDAY NIGHT THROUGH WEDNESDAY/... AS OF 215 PM SUNDAY...MODELS ARE IN GOOD AGREEMENT WITH THE DEEP-DIGGING SHORTWAVE MONDAY NIGHT AND TUESDAY...TRENDING FURTHER SOUTH WITH THE SYSTEM AND KEEPING IT FAIRLY COMPACT AS IT ENTERS THE CAROLINA COASTAL WATERS. TAKING A BLEND...POPS WERE CUT BACK...ESP IN THE NORTHERN ZONES. TEMPS ARE TRICKY...AS MODEST SFC HIGH PRES WILL WEDGE DOWN THE EASTERN SIDE OF THE APPALACHIANS. GUIDANCE HAS TRENDED WARMER...PROBABLY DUE TO LTL IF ANY PRECIP DURING THE DAY ON TUESDAY. ONLY TWEAKED THE TEMPS FOR BOTH MONDAY NIGHT AND TUESDAY. THE 00Z ECMWF STILL HAS THE MOST QPF ALONG THE SOUTHERN FRINGE OF THE CWFA...THANKS TO A BAND OF MID LVL FRONTOGENESIS. A VERY TIGHT GRADIENT OF POPS IS LIKELY ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THIS SYSTEM...MAKING FOR A BELOW AVERAGE CONFIDENCE FCST FOR THE CHARLOTTE AREA. IN ANY CASE...IT WILL BE COOL...WITH TEMPS ABOUT 10-15 DEG BELOW NORMAL. TUESDAY NIGHT AND WEDNESDAY...A NORTHERN STREAM SHORTWAVE WILL DIVE SE INTO THE OHIO VALLEY AND CROSS THE CWFA BY MIDDAY WEDNESDAY. MODELS HAVE TRENDED A LITTLE WETTER WITH THIS FEATURE...BRINGING LLVL FLOW AROUND TO NW AND INCREASING DURING THE DAY. THE BEST UPSLOPE DOES NOT LINE UP WITH THE MID-UPR QG FORCING HOWEVER. SO WILL GO WITH A CHC POP ALONG THE TN LINE DURING THESE PERIODS. ONLY LIGHT SNOW ACCUM EXPECTED IN THE HIGHEST ELEVATIONS ALONG THE TN LINE. OTHERWISE...DOWNSLOPE AND SUBSIDENCE BEHIND THE MAIN LOW PRES SYSTEM THAT WILL BE LIFTING NE ALONG THE EASTERN SEABOARD. THICKNESSES REMAIN LOW...SUCH THAT THE MOS GUIDANCE SEEMS TOO WARM. WILL UNDERCUT MOS SLIGHTLY. && .LONG TERM /WEDNESDAY NIGHT THROUGH SUNDAY/... AS OF 200 PM SUNDAY...THE LATEST MEDIUM RANGE MODELS CONTINUE TO INDICATE THAT A PERIOD OF NW FLOW PRECIP OVER THE NC MOUNTAINS/VALLEYS WILL CONTINUE THROUGH WEDNESDAY EVENING AS AN ADDITIONAL UPPER ENERGY AND MOISTURE ROTATES IN BEHIND THE DEPARTING LOW PRESSURE. EXPECT MAINLY RAIN SHOWERS WITH SOME SNOW POSSIBLE IN THE HIGHER ELEVATIONS ALONG THE NC/TN BORDER AFTER SUNSET. WEDNESDAY NIGHT THROUGH SUNDAY...BOTH THE LATEST GFS AND ECMWF MODELS ARE IN GOOD AGREEMENT ON CANADIAN HIGH PRESSURE BUILDING IN BEHIND THE EAST COAST STORM BY WED NIGHT AND LINGER INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK. THIS WILL RESULT IN CLEAR SKIES WITH TEMPERATURES GRADUALLY WARMING BACK TO NORMAL BY END OF THE WEEK. && .AVIATION /21Z SUNDAY THROUGH FRIDAY/... AT KCLT...VFR THROUGH THE PERIOD. STILL LOOKS LIKE ONLY SCT LOW VFR CLOUDS WILL MOVE IN FOR THE AFTERNOON. HOWEVER...CANNOT COMPLETELY RULE OUT A BRIEF CIG THIS AFTERNOON. OTHERWISE...STILL EXPECT ANY CONVECTION TO BE WELL SOUTH OF THE AIRFIELD THIS AFTERNOON AND EARLY EVENING WITH THE FRONT REMAINING SOUTH OF THE AIRFIELD. SYNOPTIC AND MESOSCALE GUIDANCE ALL SHOW THIS TREND AS WELL. EXPECT NLY WIND TO BECOME NNE THIS EVENING. THERE COULD BE SOME LOW END GUSTS FROM TIME TO TIME...BUT TIMING REMAINS PROBLEMATIC. EXPECT CLEARING SKIES AFTER MIDNIGHT CONTINUING THRU MON MORN. NNE WIND WILL SHOW AN UPTICK IN SPEED BY MID MORNING AS MIXING RETURNS. ELSEWHERE...VERY SIMILAR PROGRESSION AS WITH KCLT...BUT WIND WILL BE FURTHER COMPLICATED OVER THE SC SITES BY MOVEMENT OF SFC LOW ALONG THE FRONT. IN GENERAL...WINDS ACROSS NC WILL REMAIN N TO NE...WHILE WINDS AT KAND WILL GO FROM W TO NW TO N BY EVENING. KGSP/KGMU WILL BE LIGHT AND VARIABLE BECOMING NNE. N TO NE WIND WILL CONTINUE OVERNIGHT AND THRU THE MORNING MONDAY. KAVL WILL SEE GUSTS INTO EARLY EVENING. THE SC SITES COULD SEE LOW END GUSTS AS WELL. KAND HAS THE BEST CHC OF SEEING ANY CONVECTION THIS AFTERNOON...BUT EVEN THERE CHC IS TOO LOW FOR TAF MENTION. OTHERWISE...SCT LOW VFR AND BKN CIRRUS WILL CLEAR OUT AFTER MIDNIGHT AND CONTINUE MON MORNING. CANNOT RULE OUT A BRIEF LOW VFR CIG THIS AFTERNOON HOWEVER. OUTLOOK...DRY FCST CONTINUES MONDAY AFTERNOON BEFORE ANOTHER SYSTEM RETURNS FROM THE WEST MONDAY NIGHT AND TUESDAY. RESTRICTIONS LOOK POSSIBLE WITH THE TUESDAY SYSTEM...WHICH COULD STRENGTHEN RAPIDLY OFF THE SE COAST THROUGH MID WEEK. AN EXPERIMENTAL AVIATION FORECAST CONSISTENCY TABLE SHOWING THE PERCENTAGE OF GUIDANCE MEMBERS AGREEING WITH THE SCHEDULED ISSUANCE CATEGORY IS AVAILABLE AT FOLLOWING LINK (USE LOWER CASE)... WWW.WEATHER.GOV/GSP/AVIATION/TABLES.HTM && .GSP WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... GA...NONE. NC...NONE. SC...NONE. && $$ SYNOPSIS...DEO NEAR TERM...RWH SHORT TERM...ARK LONG TERM...JOH AVIATION...RWH
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS GREENVILLE-SPARTANBURG SC
240 PM EST SUN NOV 4 2012 .SYNOPSIS... HIGH PRESSURE ON MONDAY WILL GIVE WAY TO A DEVELOPING COASTAL STORM MONDAY NIGHT AND TUESDAY. THIS NOREASTER WILL TRACK UP THE EAST COAST IN MID WEEK AS HIGH PRESSURE PREVAILS OVER OUR REGION FOR THE REST OF THE WEEK. && .NEAR TERM /THROUGH MONDAY/... SMALL AREA OF SHRA COINCIDENT WITH THE COLD FRONT ENTERING THE CWFA ATTM. RAP AND HRRR TAKE THIS AREA ACROSS NE GA AND THE UPSTATE AND EAST OF THE CWFA BY ABOUT 01Z. THIS LOOKS REASONABLE GIVEN CURRENT CONDITIONS. EXPECT ONLY A FEW HUNDREDTHS OF QPF AT MOST WITH THESE SHRA. SKIES SHUD CLEAR BEHIND THE PRECIP AS DRIER AIR WORKS IN BEHIND THE FRONT. A COOL AIR MASS MOVES IN AS WELL...BUT THE PRESSURE GRADIENT DOES NOT RELAX UNTIL NEARLY DAYBREAK AS HIGH PRESSURE BUILDS IN OVERNIGHT. STILL...EXPECT TEMPS A FEW DEGREES BELOW NORMAL...SO WITH CLEARING SKIES AND LIGHT WINDS...PATCHY FROST WILL DEVELOP ACROSS THE I-40 CORRIDOR. HIGH PRESSURE CONTINUES TO BUILD INTO THE AREA FROM THE NORTH ON MONDAY. THE BULK OF THE DAY SHUD BE MOSTLY SUNNY...BUT CLOUDS WILL INCREASE ACROSS THE WRN CWFA LATE IN THE DAY AHEAD OF THE NEXT WX SYSTEM. AFTER A INCREASE IN N TO NELY WINDS WITH MIXING...WINDS BECOME LIGHT FOR THE AFTERNOON. HIGHS WILL BE 5 TO 10 DEGREES BELOW NORMAL. && .SHORT TERM /MONDAY NIGHT THROUGH WEDNESDAY/... AS OF 215 PM SUNDAY...MODELS ARE IN GOOD AGREEMENT WITH THE DEEP-DIGGING SHORTWAVE MONDAY NIGHT AND TUESDAY...TRENDING FURTHER SOUTH WITH THE SYSTEM AND KEEPING IT FAIRLY COMPACT AS IT ENTERS THE CAROLINA COASTAL WATERS. TAKING A BLEND...POPS WERE CUT BACK...ESP IN THE NORTHERN ZONES. TEMPS ARE TRICKY...AS MODEST SFC HIGH PRES WILL WEDGE DOWN THE EASTERN SIDE OF THE APPALACHIANS. GUIDANCE HAS TRENDED WARMER...PROBABLY DUE TO LTL IF ANY PRECIP DURING THE DAY ON TUESDAY. ONLY TWEAKED THE TEMPS FOR BOTH MONDAY NIGHT AND TUESDAY. THE 00Z ECMWF STILL HAS THE MOST QPF ALONG THE SOUTHERN FRINGE OF THE CWFA...THANKS TO A BAND OF MID LVL FRONTOGENESIS. A VERY TIGHT GRADIENT OF POPS IS LIKELY ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THIS SYSTEM...MAKING FOR A BELOW AVERAGE CONFIDENCE FCST FOR THE CHARLOTTE AREA. IN ANY CASE...IT WILL BE COOL...WITH TEMPS ABOUT 10-15 DEG BELOW NORMAL. TUESDAY NIGHT AND WEDNESDAY...A NORTHERN STREAM SHORTWAVE WILL DIVE SE INTO THE OHIO VALLEY AND CROSS THE CWFA BY MIDDAY WEDNESDAY. MODELS HAVE TRENDED A LITTLE WETTER WITH THIS FEATURE...BRINGING LLVL FLOW AROUND TO NW AND INCREASING DURING THE DAY. THE BEST UPSLOPE DOES NOT LINE UP WITH THE MID-UPR QG FORCING HOWEVER. SO WILL GO WITH A CHC POP ALONG THE TN LINE DURING THESE PERIODS. ONLY LIGHT SNOW ACCUM EXPECTED IN THE HIGHEST ELEVATIONS ALONG THE TN LINE. OTHERWISE...DOWNSLOPE AND SUBSIDENCE BEHIND THE MAIN LOW PRES SYSTEM THAT WILL BE LIFTING NE ALONG THE EASTERN SEABOARD. THICKNESSES REMAIN LOW...SUCH THAT THE MOS GUIDANCE SEEMS TOO WARM. WILL UNDERCUT MOS SLIGHTLY. && .LONG TERM /WEDNESDAY NIGHT THROUGH SUNDAY/... AS OF 200 PM SUNDAY...THE LATEST MEDIUM RANGE MODELS CONTINUE TO INDICATE THAT A PERIOD OF NW FLOW PRECIP ALONG THE NC/TN BORDER WILL CONTINUE THROUGH WEDNESDAY EVENING AS AN ADDITIONAL UPPER ENERGY AND MOISTURE ROTATES IN BEHIND THE DEPARTING LOW PRESSURE. THERE WILL BE NO PRECIP TYPE ISSUE AS THE TEMPS REMAIN ABOVE FREEZING LEVEL DURING THIS PERIOD. WEDNESDAY NIGHT THROUGH SUNDAY...BOTH THE LATEST GFS AND ECMWF MODELS ARE IN GOOD AGREEMENT ON CANADIAN HIGH PRESSURE BUILDING IN BEHIND THE EAST COAST STORM BY WED NIGHT AND LINGER INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK. THIS WILL RESULT IN CLEAR SKIES WITH TEMPERATURES GRADUALLY WARMING BACK TO NORMAL BY END OF THE WEEK. && .AVIATION /20Z SUNDAY THROUGH FRIDAY/... AT KCLT...VFR THROUGH THE PERIOD. STILL LOOKS LIKE ONLY SCT LOW VFR CLOUDS WILL MOVE IN FOR THE AFTERNOON. HOWEVER...CANNOT COMPLETELY RULE OUT A BRIEF CIG THIS AFTERNOON. OTHERWISE...STILL EXPECT ANY CONVECTION TO BE WELL SOUTH OF THE AIRFIELD THIS AFTERNOON AND EARLY EVENING WITH THE FRONT REMAINING SOUTH OF THE AIRFIELD. SYNOPTIC AND MESOSCALE GUIDANCE ALL SHOW THIS TREND AS WELL. EXPECT NLY WIND TO BECOME NNE THIS EVENING. THERE COULD BE SOME LOW END GUSTS FROM TIME TO TIME...BUT TIMING REMAINS PROBLEMATIC. EXPECT CLEARING SKIES AFTER MIDNIGHT CONTINUING THRU MON MORN. NNE WIND WILL SHOW AN UPTICK IN SPEED BY MID MORNING AS MIXING RETURNS. ELSEWHERE...VERY SIMILAR PROGRESSION AS WITH KCLT...BUT WIND WILL BE FURTHER COMPLICATED OVER THE SC SITES BY MOVEMENT OF SFC LOW ALONG THE FRONT. IN GENERAL...WINDS ACROSS NC WILL REMAIN N TO NE...WHILE WINDS AT KAND WILL GO FROM W TO NW TO N BY EVENING. KGSP/KGMU WILL BE LIGHT AND VARIABLE BECOMING NNE. N TO NE WIND WILL CONTINUE OVERNIGHT AND THRU THE MORNING MONDAY. KAVL WILL SEE GUSTS INTO EARLY EVENING. THE SC SITES COULD SEE LOW END GUSTS AS WELL. KAND HAS THE BEST CHC OF SEEING ANY CONVECTION THIS AFTERNOON...BUT EVEN THERE CHC IS TOO LOW FOR TAF MENTION. OTHERWISE...SCT LOW VFR AND BKN CIRRUS WILL CLEAR OUT AFTER MIDNIGHT AND CONTINUE MON MORNING. CANNOT RULE OUT A BRIEF LOW VFR CIG THIS AFTERNOON HOWEVER. OUTLOOK...DRY FCST CONTINUES MONDAY AFTERNOON BEFORE ANOTHER SYSTEM RETURNS FROM THE WEST MONDAY NIGHT AND TUESDAY. RESTRICTIONS LOOK POSSIBLE WITH THE TUESDAY SYSTEM...WHICH COULD STRENGTHEN RAPIDLY OFF THE SE COAST THROUGH MID WEEK. AN EXPERIMENTAL AVIATION FORECAST CONSISTENCY TABLE SHOWING THE PERCENTAGE OF GUIDANCE MEMBERS AGREEING WITH THE SCHEDULED ISSUANCE CATEGORY IS AVAILABLE AT FOLLOWING LINK (USE LOWER CASE)... WWW.WEATHER.GOV/GSP/AVIATION/TABLES.HTM && .GSP WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... GA...NONE. NC...NONE. SC...NONE. && $$ SYNOPSIS...DEO NEAR TERM...RWH SHORT TERM...ARK LONG TERM...JOH AVIATION...RWH
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929 PM CST MON NOV 5 2012 .SHORT TERM... 928 PM CST MON NOV 5 2012 GOES WATER VAPOR IMAGERY UPSTREAM OVER SOUTHERN CANADA SHOWING TWO IMPULSES WITH A NICE SIGNAL OF DARKENING JUST WEST OF LAKE WINNIPEG AT 02Z. THIS DARKENING WAS ASSOCIATED WITH A RAP-ANALYZED TROPOPAUSE FOLD DOWN TO 600 MB. SOME ADDITIONAL DARKENING ASSOCIATED WITH THE INITIAL VORTICITY ADVECTION IN THE TROUGH IN ERN SD AS WELL. THIS LEAD TROUGH IS CAUSING SOME ELEVATED ECHO OVER MN/SD WITH VERY LITTLE PRECIPITATION BEING OBSERVED. THE LOCAL AREA WILL TAKE A DIRECT HIT FROM THE SECOND STRONG SHORTWAVE TROUGH NEAR LAKE WINNIPEG BASED ON FORECAST MODEL CONSENSUS. THIS HAS DEVELOPED A MORE N-S BAND OF ECHO ALONG THE ERN ND BORDER EXTENDING NORTH INTO MANITOBA WITH A FEW HUNDREDTHS OF PRECIPITATION PER HOUR BEING REPORTED. QG ANALYSIS TAKES THE LIFT FROM THESE DYNAMICS RIGHT ACROSS THE FORECAST AREA IN THE 06.00 AND 05.18 NAM...LATEST RAP FORECASTS...AND 05.18 GFS. HAVE INCREASED PRECIPITATION CHANCES TO 80 PERCENT IN MOST AREAS. SOME QUESTION ON THE PRECIPITATION TYPE AS THE CLOUDS HAVE HELD FIRM OVER SERN MN...AND SLIPPED A BIT EAST INTO NW WI. OTHERWISE...TEMPERATURES WERE REALLY COOLING IN MOST OF EXTREME NERN IA...SWRN AND CENTRAL WI UNDER CLEAR SKIES. ONCE THE CLOUD COMES OVER...EVEN THOUGH IT IS 8KFT...TEMPERATURES WARM RAPIDLY 3-4F. FOR CENTRAL WI INTO SWRN WI...WITH THICKER CLOUDS EXPECTED JUST PRIOR TO PRECIPITATION ONSET...TEMPERATURES AND WETBULB TEMPERATURES WOULD SEEM TO SUPPORT A BIT OF SNOW ACCUMULATION /IN ADDITION TO I-94/NORTHEAST ACCUM AREA FROM PREV FORECAST/. WITH WARM SOILS OF 40F OR MORE AT 2 INCHES...STILL THINK ACCUMULATION DIFFICULT. BUT...WHERE IT IS THE COLDEST TONIGHT WILL FAVOR SOME...GENERALLY 1/2 INCH OR LESS. 06.00Z NAM SNOW DEPTH...WHICH MODELS THE LAND SURFACE HEAT FLUXES...PLACED 0.3 INCHES OF SNOW ACCUM IN THAT REGION...RICHLAND/ERN VERNON COUNTY/MONROE AREA. AN OUTSIDE CHANCE OF VERY BRIEF FZRA IS POSSIBLE FOR ANY SITE REMAINING 32F OR BELOW...AND MAINLY JUST EAST OF THE MISS RIVER WHERE THE TOP OF THE INVERSION WOULD BE WARM ENOUGH TO MELT INCOMING ICE. HAVE NOT ADDED THIS TO THE FORECAST BUT WE WILL MONITOR AS IT APPROACHES LATER TONIGHT. IT MAY NEED A SPECIAL WEATHER STATEMENT. A CHANGE TO SNOW WOULD QUICKLY RESULT AS THE THERMAL PROFILE GOES TO THE WET-BULB NEAR 0C. FORECAST UPDATES ARE OUT. .LONG TERM...THURSDAY NIGHT THROUGH MONDAY 304 PM CST MON NOV 5 2012 AN ACTIVE PERIOD IS ON TAP FOR THE WEEKEND INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK AS BROAD UPPER LEVEL TROUGHING PROPAGATES EAST ACROSS THE ROCKIES ON INTO THE CENTRAL US AND GREAT LAKES REGION. THE QUESTION TO START THE EXTENDED PERIOD IS WITH HOW FAR SOUTH A COLD FRONT MAKES IT ON FRIDAY BEFORE IT STALLS OUT AND TRANSITIONS TO A WARM FRONT. THE 05.12Z ECMWF IS TRENDING TOWARD WHAT THE GFS HAS ADVERTISED THE PAST FEW DAYS WITH A MORE SOUTHERN SOLUTION. BY 00Z SATURDAY...THE FRONT WILL START NEAR A SURFACE LOW IN EASTERN COLORADO AND RUN EAST THROUGH NORTHWEST IOWA AND CENTRAL WISCONSIN. THE 05.12Z GFS SHOWS SOME PRECIPITATION DEVELOPING ALONG THIS FRONT FRIDAY NIGHT AS THE LOW LEVEL JET KICKS IN AND NOSES UP INTO THE REGION WHILE THE 05.12Z ECMWF/GEM KEEP IT DRY WITH THE FOCUS A BIT FURTHER NORTH. A LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM WILL THEN DEVELOP IN THE LEE OF THE ROCKIES ALONG THIS FRONT AND TRACK NORTHEAST ALONG THE FRONT AND DEEPEN INTO MINNESOTA ON SATURDAY/SATURDAY NIGHT WITH THE 05.12Z GFS/ECMWF IN DECENT AGREEMENT ON THIS SCENARIO. THIS TRACK WILL LEAD TO SATURDAY BEING THE WARMEST DAY OF THE WEEK WITH TEMPERATURES GETTING INTO THE 60S. AS A RESULT OF THIS RELATIVELY WARM AND MOIST AIR MASS GETTING IN...THERE APPEARS TO BE SOME WEAK INSTABILITY THAT DEVELOPS AHEAD OF THE FRONT SO THERE COULD BE A FEW THUNDERSTORMS THAT DEVELOP THOUGH TIMING DOES NOT LOOK FAVORABLE FOR ANYTHING SEVERE. THE FRONT THEN SLOWLY TRACKS TO THE EAST ON SUNDAY WITH PRECIPITATION LIKELY FORMING ALONG AND BEHIND IT. WITH STRONG LOW LEVEL COLD AIR ADVECTION BEHIND THE FRONT...IT APPEARS THAT TEMPERATURES WILL BE ABLE TO COOL ENOUGH FOR THE RAIN TO TRANSITION TO SNOW FOR A PERIOD. THEN...THERE IS THEN CONTINUED GOOD AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE 05.12Z GFS/ECMWF FOR THE BELLY OF THE MID LEVEL TROUGH TO BECOME NEGATIVELY TILTED ON MONDAY WITH A DEEPENING SURFACE LOW RUNNING UP THE COLD FRONT THROUGH CHICAGO. THERMAL PROFILES WOULD BE COLD ENOUGH FOR THE PRECIPITATION TYPE TO BE ALL SNOW...SO THE TRENDS WITH THIS SYSTEM WILL HAVE TO BE MONITORED SINCE THE TRACK WOULD DICTATE WHERE THE HEAVIEST SNOW WOULD FALL. RIGHT NOW...THE 05.12Z GFS IS FASTER WITH THE SURFACE LOW NEAR SOUTHERN LAKE MICHIGAN BY 18Z MONDAY WHILE THE 05.12Z ECMWF GETS IT THERE AROUND 6Z TUESDAY. && .AVIATION...TONIGHT AND WEDNESDAY 630 PM CST MON NOV 5 2012 HAVE NOT CHANGED A GREAT DEAL WITH THE NEW TAF ISSUANCE AT 00Z. THE FORECAST WAS ON TARGET. THE FIRST 12 HOURS /OVERNIGHT/ WILL SEE A BATTLE BETWEEN LOW-LEVEL SOUTHEAST DRYING FLOW OVER WI HOLDING MVFR/IFR CLOUDS WEST OF THE TAF SITES OVER MN. MVFR CONDITIONS ARE ABOUT 50 MILES WEST OF KRST AT 00Z...SO THIS BATTLE OF AIR MASSES WILL CONTINUE AS A COLD FRONT APPROACHES FOR DAYBREAK. AS THE COLD FRONT DRAWS CLOSER...CIGS WILL SLOWLY COME DOWN TO MVFR CONDITIONS. HOWEVER...THERE WILL BE SOME IFR CONDITIONS WEST OF KRST THAT MAY TRY TO ADVECT EAST AHEAD OF THE COLD FRONT. THUS...THE FORECAST CIGS MAY NEED TO BE LOWERED AROUND THE 12Z TIME AT KRST. WILL MONITOR OBSERVATIONS AND SATELLITE AND WHEN CONFIDENCE GROWS...WILL UPDATE TAFS. A LIGHT RAIN PERIOD TUESDAY MORNING WILL GIVE WAY TO IMPROVING CIGS AND GUSTY CONDITIONS...ESPECIALLY AT KRST. && .ARX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... 304 PM CST MON NOV 5 2012 WI...NONE. MN...NONE. IA...NONE. && $$ SHORT TERM...BAUMGARDT LONG TERM...HALBACH AVIATION...BAUMGARDT
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1155 AM CST SUN NOV 4 2012 .SHORT TERM...THROUGH TUESDAY 141 AM CST SUN NOV 4 2012 MAIN FORECAST CONCERN IS WITH THE PRECIPITATION CHANCES TONIGHT INTO MONDAY MORNING AND AGAIN MONDAY NIGHT INTO TUESDAY. SURFACE ANALYSIS THIS MORNING SHOWS A LARGE AREA OF HIGH PRESSURE REMAINS ANCHORED OVER WESTERN ONTARIO WITH THE RIDGE AXIS SOUTH INTO THE REGION. WATER VAPOR SATELLITE THIS MORNING SHOWS AN UPPER LEVEL LOW OVER SOUTHEAST MINNESOTA. LOCAL RADAR AND SURFACE OBS INDICATE A LITTLE BIT OF LIGHT PRECIPITATION IS HITTING THE GROUND ACROSS THE WESTERN SECTIONS OF THE FORECAST AREA. THIS ACTIVITY IS MOVING TO THE SOUTHEAST AND BASED ON THE 04.03Z HRRR AND 04.00Z HI-RES ARW AND NMM...THIS ACTIVITY SHOULD BE SOUTH OF THE FORECAST AREA BY 12Z AND AT THIS POINT...DO NOT PLAN TO INCLUDE ANY MENTION OF THIS IN THE TODAY PORTION OF THE FORECAST. THE NEXT SHORT WAVE TROUGH CAN BE SEEN MOVING ACROSS SOUTHERN ALBERTA AND SASKATCHEWAN. THIS WAVE IS EXPECTED TO ADVANCE QUICKLY INTO THE REGION ON THE FAST NORTHWEST FLOW ALOFT. AS THE WAVE APPROACHES THE REGION...ANOTHER UPPER LEVEL LOW IS EXPECTED TO FORM AND PASS OVER MINNESOTA INTO IOWA WITH THE BULK OF THE SHORT WAVE TROUGH TRACKING TO THE WEST OF THE UPPER LEVEL LOW. IN FACT...THE 04.00Z GFS SHOWS ALL OF THE PV ADVECTION IN THE 500-300 MB LAYER STAYING OVER THE MISSOURI RIVER VALLEY. THE WAVE DOES GET CLOSE ENOUGH TO PRODUCE SOME WEAK QG CONVERGENCE IN THE 1000-500 MB LAYER FOR AREAS ALONG AND WEST OF THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER. THE BEST ISENTROPIC UP GLIDE WILL REMAIN WELL TO THE WEST OF THE AREA...BUT AROUND 1 TO 2 UBAR/S DOES GET INTO THE I35 CORRIDOR ON THE 285K SURFACE. NOT EXPECTING THIS WAVE TO PRODUCE A LOT OF PRECIPITATION FOR THE FORECAST AREA...BUT COULD SEE ANOTHER ROUND OF VERY LIGHT RAIN SNEAK INTO THE SOUTHWEST SECTIONS OF THE FORECAST AREA AND WILL HAVE RAIN CHANCES ALONG AND SOUTHWEST OF A ROCHESTER TO ELKADER LINE. SOME OF THIS LIGHT RAIN COULD LINGER INTO MONDAY MORNING BEFORE MOVING AWAY FROM THE AREA. WITH THE NORTHWEST FLOW ALOFT...YET ANOTHER WAVE WILL QUICKLY ADVANCE TOWARD THE REGION FOR MONDAY NIGHT AND TUESDAY. THIS WAVE LOOKS LIKE IT WILL START OUT FARTHER NORTH COMING OUT OF CENTRAL ALBERTA AND SASKATCHEWAN WHICH WILL TAKE IT FARTHER NORTHEAST THAN THE PREVIOUS TWO WAVES. THE MODELS HAVE BEEN FAIRLY CONSISTENT SHOWING THIS WAVE TRACKING RIGHT OVER THE AREA WITH THE GFS INDICATING UP TO 16 PVU/S OF VORTICITY ADVECTION COMING ACROSS THE NORTHERN PORTIONS OF THE FORECAST AREA LATE MONDAY NIGHT INTO TUESDAY MORNING. THE QG RESPONSE FROM THIS WAVE IS EXPECTED TO BE MODERATE IN STRENGTH BUT VERY DEEP EXTENDING FROM 1000 UP TO 300 MB. VERY LITTLE IF ANY FRONTOGENESIS IS EXPECTED WITH THIS SYSTEM AND THE ISENTROPIC RESPONSE IS ONLY AROUND 2 UBAR/S ON THE 285K SURFACE. EXPECT THAT THIS SYSTEM WILL BE ABLE TO PRODUCE SOME PRECIPITATION LATE MONDAY NIGHT INTO TUESDAY MORNING. HAVE RAISED THE PRECIPITATION CHANCES TO 50 PERCENT ACROSS THE FAR NORTH AND EXTENDED THE 20 PERCENT CHANCES SOUTH TO COVER THE REMAINDER OF THE AREA. RAISED THE CHANCES TO 60 AND 70 PERCENT ACROSS THE EAST FOR TUESDAY MORNING WITH 30 AND 40 PERCENT CHANCES BACK ACROSS THE WEST. LOOKING AT THE FORECAST SOUNDINGS...EXPECTING MOST OF THIS PRECIPITATION TO FALL AS RAIN AS THE WARM AIR ADVECTION AHEAD OF THE WAVE SHOULD WARM THE LOW LEVEL TEMPERATURES ENOUGH TO KEEP THINGS LIQUID. HOWEVER...CAN NOT TOTALLY RULE SOME SNOW MIXING IN SO PLAN TO HAVE A LITTLE MIX FOR A WHILE. .LONG TERM...TUESDAY NIGHT THROUGH SATURDAY 141 AM CST SUN NOV 4 2012 MEDIUM RANGE MODELS IN VERY GOOD AGREEMENT THIS MORNING SHOWING THE UPPER LEVEL RIDGE OVER THE ROCKIES WILL SLIDE EAST ACROSS THE MIDWEST BEHIND THE TUESDAY SYSTEM. THIS RIDGING IS EXPECTED TO SLIDE EAST PAST THE REGION THURSDAY NIGHT AND FRIDAY ALLOWING SOUTHWEST FLOW ALOFT TO DEVELOP AS AN UPPER LEVEL LOW MOVES ACROSS THE NORTHERN ROCKIES ONTO THE HIGH PLAINS BY SATURDAY. AT THE SURFACE...CYCLOGENESIS SHOULD TAKE PLACE IN THE LEE OF THE ROCKIES FRIDAY NIGHT WITH THE LOW ADVANCING NORTHEAST INTO MINNESOTA SATURDAY. STILL SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCES ON WHERE THE WARM FRONT DEVELOPS WITH THE SURFACE LOW. THE GFS HAS THE WARM FRONT ALONG THE IOWA/MISSOURI BORDER AND SHOWS PRECIPITATION DEVELOPING NORTH OF THIS ALREADY FRIDAY WHILE THE 04.00Z ECMWF CONTINUES TO SHOW THE WARM FRONT WELL TO THE NORTH WITH ANY PRECIPITATION ACROSS SOUTHERN CANADA. THESE DIFFERENCES THEN CONTINUE THROUGH THE REMAINDER OF THE PERIOD WITH THE GFS BEING MUCH WETTER WHILE THE ECMWF KEEPS THE AREA IN THE WARM SECTOR AND DOES NOT DEVELOP ANY PRECIPITATION UNTIL FRIDAY NIGHT INTO SATURDAY AS THE SURFACE LOW AND COLD FRONT STARTS TO APPROACH. NO CHANGES PLANNED TO THE MODEL CONSENSUS GRIDS AT THIS POINT WHICH FAVOR THE DRIER ECMWF SOLUTION. && .AVIATION...THROUGH 18Z MONDAY 1155 AM CST SUN NOV 4 2012 CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED TO DETERIORATE TO IFR AT KRST AROUND 03Z TONIGHT...LOWERING TO LIFR BY 09Z IN LIGHT RAIN AND FOG. LOOK FOR CEILINGS TO LOWER TO AROUND 900 FT BY 03Z THEN FALLING TO 200 FT BY 09Z. VISIBILITIES WILL ALSO BE REDUCED LATE TONIGHT IN FOG AT KRST WITH VISIBILITIES FALLING TO AROUND 1/2 SM. MVFR CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED TO DEVELOP AT KLSE AROUND 02Z THIS EVENING. OTHERWISE...PLAN ON VFR TO MVFR CONDITIONS AT THE TAF SITES THIS AFTERNOON WITH BKN CUMULUS CLOUD BASES RANGING FROM 3500 FT AT KLSE TO AROUND 1700 FT AT KRST. CLOUD BASES ARE EXPECTED TO LOWER INTO THE MVFR CATEGORY AROUND 02Z TONIGHT AT KLSE WITH CEILINGS AT 2000FT...LOWERING TO AROUND 1500FT BY 08Z. LIFR CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED TO IMPROVE TO IFR AT KRST AROUND 14Z...WITH MVFR CONDITIONS EXPECTED BY 16Z. THE LIGHT RAIN AND LOW CEILINGS ARE IN RESPONSE TO SURFACE LOW PRESSURE DEEPENING TONIGHT OVER WESTERN IOWA AS AN UPPER WAVE MOVES FROM THE DAKOTAS SOUTH ALONG THE NEBRASKA/IOWA BORDER. LOW LEVEL WARM AIR ADVECTION...PRODUCING LIGHT PRECIPITATION...AND EAST SOUTHEASTERLY UPSLOPE FLOW WILL PRODUCE FAVORABLE CONDITIONS FOR LOW CEILINGS AND FOG AT KRST. && .ARX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... 141 AM CST SUN NOV 4 2012 WI...NONE. MN...NONE. IA...NONE. && $$ SHORT TERM...04 LONG TERM....04 AVIATION...WETENKAMP
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520 AM CST SUN NOV 4 2012 .SHORT TERM...THROUGH TUESDAY 141 AM CST SUN NOV 4 2012 MAIN FORECAST CONCERN IS WITH THE PRECIPITATION CHANCES TONIGHT INTO MONDAY MORNING AND AGAIN MONDAY NIGHT INTO TUESDAY. SURFACE ANALYSIS THIS MORNING SHOWS A LARGE AREA OF HIGH PRESSURE REMAINS ANCHORED OVER WESTERN ONTARIO WITH THE RIDGE AXIS SOUTH INTO THE REGION. WATER VAPOR SATELLITE THIS MORNING SHOWS AN UPPER LEVEL LOW OVER SOUTHEAST MINNESOTA. LOCAL RADAR AND SURFACE OBS INDICATE A LITTLE BIT OF LIGHT PRECIPITATION IS HITTING THE GROUND ACROSS THE WESTERN SECTIONS OF THE FORECAST AREA. THIS ACTIVITY IS MOVING TO THE SOUTHEAST AND BASED ON THE 04.03Z HRRR AND 04.00Z HI-RES ARW AND NMM...THIS ACTIVITY SHOULD BE SOUTH OF THE FORECAST AREA BY 12Z AND AT THIS POINT...DO NOT PLAN TO INCLUDE ANY MENTION OF THIS IN THE TODAY PORTION OF THE FORECAST. THE NEXT SHORT WAVE TROUGH CAN BE SEEN MOVING ACROSS SOUTHERN ALBERTA AND SASKATCHEWAN. THIS WAVE IS EXPECTED TO ADVANCE QUICKLY INTO THE REGION ON THE FAST NORTHWEST FLOW ALOFT. AS THE WAVE APPROACHES THE REGION...ANOTHER UPPER LEVEL LOW IS EXPECTED TO FORM AND PASS OVER MINNESOTA INTO IOWA WITH THE BULK OF THE SHORT WAVE TROUGH TRACKING TO THE WEST OF THE UPPER LEVEL LOW. IN FACT...THE 04.00Z GFS SHOWS ALL OF THE PV ADVECTION IN THE 500-300 MB LAYER STAYING OVER THE MISSOURI RIVER VALLEY. THE WAVE DOES GET CLOSE ENOUGH TO PRODUCE SOME WEAK QG CONVERGENCE IN THE 1000-500 MB LAYER FOR AREAS ALONG AND WEST OF THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER. THE BEST ISENTROPIC UP GLIDE WILL REMAIN WELL TO THE WEST OF THE AREA...BUT AROUND 1 TO 2 UBAR/S DOES GET INTO THE I35 CORRIDOR ON THE 285K SURFACE. NOT EXPECTING THIS WAVE TO PRODUCE A LOT OF PRECIPITATION FOR THE FORECAST AREA...BUT COULD SEE ANOTHER ROUND OF VERY LIGHT RAIN SNEAK INTO THE SOUTHWEST SECTIONS OF THE FORECAST AREA AND WILL HAVE RAIN CHANCES ALONG AND SOUTHWEST OF A ROCHESTER TO ELKADER LINE. SOME OF THIS LIGHT RAIN COULD LINGER INTO MONDAY MORNING BEFORE MOVING AWAY FROM THE AREA. WITH THE NORTHWEST FLOW ALOFT...YET ANOTHER WAVE WILL QUICKLY ADVANCE TOWARD THE REGION FOR MONDAY NIGHT AND TUESDAY. THIS WAVE LOOKS LIKE IT WILL START OUT FARTHER NORTH COMING OUT OF CENTRAL ALBERTA AND SASKATCHEWAN WHICH WILL TAKE IT FARTHER NORTHEAST THAN THE PREVIOUS TWO WAVES. THE MODELS HAVE BEEN FAIRLY CONSISTENT SHOWING THIS WAVE TRACKING RIGHT OVER THE AREA WITH THE GFS INDICATING UP TO 16 PVU/S OF VORTICITY ADVECTION COMING ACROSS THE NORTHERN PORTIONS OF THE FORECAST AREA LATE MONDAY NIGHT INTO TUESDAY MORNING. THE QG RESPONSE FROM THIS WAVE IS EXPECTED TO BE MODERATE IN STRENGTH BUT VERY DEEP EXTENDING FROM 1000 UP TO 300 MB. VERY LITTLE IF ANY FRONTOGENESIS IS EXPECTED WITH THIS SYSTEM AND THE ISENTROPIC RESPONSE IS ONLY AROUND 2 UBAR/S ON THE 285K SURFACE. EXPECT THAT THIS SYSTEM WILL BE ABLE TO PRODUCE SOME PRECIPITATION LATE MONDAY NIGHT INTO TUESDAY MORNING. HAVE RAISED THE PRECIPITATION CHANCES TO 50 PERCENT ACROSS THE FAR NORTH AND EXTENDED THE 20 PERCENT CHANCES SOUTH TO COVER THE REMAINDER OF THE AREA. RAISED THE CHANCES TO 60 AND 70 PERCENT ACROSS THE EAST FOR TUESDAY MORNING WITH 30 AND 40 PERCENT CHANCES BACK ACROSS THE WEST. LOOKING AT THE FORECAST SOUNDINGS...EXPECTING MOST OF THIS PRECIPITATION TO FALL AS RAIN AS THE WARM AIR ADVECTION AHEAD OF THE WAVE SHOULD WARM THE LOW LEVEL TEMPERATURES ENOUGH TO KEEP THINGS LIQUID. HOWEVER...CAN NOT TOTALLY RULE SOME SNOW MIXING IN SO PLAN TO HAVE A LITTLE MIX FOR A WHILE. .LONG TERM...TUESDAY NIGHT THROUGH SATURDAY 141 AM CST SUN NOV 4 2012 MEDIUM RANGE MODELS IN VERY GOOD AGREEMENT THIS MORNING SHOWING THE UPPER LEVEL RIDGE OVER THE ROCKIES WILL SLIDE EAST ACROSS THE MIDWEST BEHIND THE TUESDAY SYSTEM. THIS RIDGING IS EXPECTED TO SLIDE EAST PAST THE REGION THURSDAY NIGHT AND FRIDAY ALLOWING SOUTHWEST FLOW ALOFT TO DEVELOP AS AN UPPER LEVEL LOW MOVES ACROSS THE NORTHERN ROCKIES ONTO THE HIGH PLAINS BY SATURDAY. AT THE SURFACE...CYCLOGENESIS SHOULD TAKE PLACE IN THE LEE OF THE ROCKIES FRIDAY NIGHT WITH THE LOW ADVANCING NORTHEAST INTO MINNESOTA SATURDAY. STILL SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCES ON WHERE THE WARM FRONT DEVELOPS WITH THE SURFACE LOW. THE GFS HAS THE WARM FRONT ALONG THE IOWA/MISSOURI BORDER AND SHOWS PRECIPITATION DEVELOPING NORTH OF THIS ALREADY FRIDAY WHILE THE 04.00Z ECMWF CONTINUES TO SHOW THE WARM FRONT WELL TO THE NORTH WITH ANY PRECIPITATION ACROSS SOUTHERN CANADA. THESE DIFFERENCES THEN CONTINUE THROUGH THE REMAINDER OF THE PERIOD WITH THE GFS BEING MUCH WETTER WHILE THE ECMWF KEEPS THE AREA IN THE WARM SECTOR AND DOES NOT DEVELOP ANY PRECIPITATION UNTIL FRIDAY NIGHT INTO SATURDAY AS THE SURFACE LOW AND COLD FRONT STARTS TO APPROACH. NO CHANGES PLANNED TO THE MODEL CONSENSUS GRIDS AT THIS POINT WHICH FAVOR THE DRIER ECMWF SOLUTION. && .AVIATION...TODAY AND TONIGHT 520 AM CDT SUN NOV 4 2012 MOISTURE/CLOUDS IN THE 900MB TO ABOUT 800MB LAYER /ROUGHLY 2K-6K FT/ WILL BE PROBLEMATIC TODAY AND TONIGHT. DEEPER/LOWER OF THIS MOISTURE RESIDES WEST OF THE TAF SITES THIS MORNING. ISOTHERMAL OR WEAK INVERSIONS THRU ABOUT 800MB ALONG WITH WEAK FLOW IN THE SFC-700MB LAYER AND ANOTHER SHORTWAVE TO PASS JUST WEST OF THE FCST AREA TONIGHT...LOOK TO KEEP THIS MOISTURE OVER THE AREA TODAY AND SLOWLY ADVECT IT EASTWARD TONIGHT. WITH SOME DIURNAL WARMING/MIXING... MAINLY VFR CIGS EXPECTED TODAY. WITH THE ADVECTION OF THE DEEPER MOISTURE EAST TONIGHT AND DIURNAL COOLING...CIGS LOOK TO LOWER INTO THE 2K-3K FT RANGE BY LATER TONIGHT INTO MON MORNING. BOUNDARY LAYER MOISTURE TRAPPING AND THE LIGHT WINDS RESULTING IN SOME MVFR VSBYS IN BR WEST OF THE MS RIVER EARLY THIS MORNING. THIS WILL IMPROVE WITH DIURNAL WARMING/MIXING THIS MORNING...BUT RETURN TONIGHT AT SITES LIKE KRST WITH THE PASSING SHORTWAVE...INCREASE OF MOISTURE AND BOUNDARY LAYER COOLING. WEAK LIFT WITH THE PASSING SHORTWAVE AND THE DEEPER MOISTURE MAY BE ENOUGH FOR PATCHY -RA/-DZ TO AGAIN SPREAD ACROSS SOUTHEAST MN/NORTHEAST IA LATE TONIGHT. ADDED VCSH TO KRST AFTER 06Z FOR NOW. && .ARX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... 141 AM CST SUN NOV 4 2012 WI...NONE. MN...NONE. IA...NONE. && $$ SHORT TERM...04 LONG TERM....04 AVIATION.....RRS
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141 AM CST SUN NOV 4 2012 .SHORT TERM...THROUGH TUESDAY 141 AM CST SUN NOV 4 2012 MAIN FORECAST CONCERN IS WITH THE PRECIPITATION CHANCES TONIGHT INTO MONDAY MORNING AND AGAIN MONDAY NIGHT INTO TUESDAY. SURFACE ANALYSIS THIS MORNING SHOWS A LARGE AREA OF HIGH PRESSURE REMAINS ANCHORED OVER WESTERN ONTARIO WITH THE RIDGE AXIS SOUTH INTO THE REGION. WATER VAPOR SATELLITE THIS MORNING SHOWS AN UPPER LEVEL LOW OVER SOUTHEAST MINNESOTA. LOCAL RADAR AND SURFACE OBS INDICATE A LITTLE BIT OF LIGHT PRECIPITATION IS HITTING THE GROUND ACROSS THE WESTERN SECTIONS OF THE FORECAST AREA. THIS ACTIVITY IS MOVING TO THE SOUTHEAST AND BASED ON THE 04.03Z HRRR AND 04.00Z HI-RES ARW AND NMM...THIS ACTIVITY SHOULD BE SOUTH OF THE FORECAST AREA BY 12Z AND AT THIS POINT...DO NOT PLAN TO INCLUDE ANY MENTION OF THIS IN THE TODAY PORTION OF THE FORECAST. THE NEXT SHORT WAVE TROUGH CAN BE SEEN MOVING ACROSS SOUTHERN ALBERTA AND SASKATCHEWAN. THIS WAVE IS EXPECTED TO ADVANCE QUICKLY INTO THE REGION ON THE FAST NORTHWEST FLOW ALOFT. AS THE WAVE APPROACHES THE REGION...ANOTHER UPPER LEVEL LOW IS EXPECTED TO FORM AND PASS OVER MINNESOTA INTO IOWA WITH THE BULK OF THE SHORT WAVE TROUGH TRACKING TO THE WEST OF THE UPPER LEVEL LOW. IN FACT...THE 04.00Z GFS SHOWS ALL OF THE PV ADVECTION IN THE 500-300 MB LAYER STAYING OVER THE MISSOURI RIVER VALLEY. THE WAVE DOES GET CLOSE ENOUGH TO PRODUCE SOME WEAK QG CONVERGENCE IN THE 1000-500 MB LAYER FOR AREAS ALONG AND WEST OF THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER. THE BEST ISENTROPIC UP GLIDE WILL REMAIN WELL TO THE WEST OF THE AREA...BUT AROUND 1 TO 2 UBAR/S DOES GET INTO THE I35 CORRIDOR ON THE 285K SURFACE. NOT EXPECTING THIS WAVE TO PRODUCE A LOT OF PRECIPITATION FOR THE FORECAST AREA...BUT COULD SEE ANOTHER ROUND OF VERY LIGHT RAIN SNEAK INTO THE SOUTHWEST SECTIONS OF THE FORECAST AREA AND WILL HAVE RAIN CHANCES ALONG AND SOUTHWEST OF A ROCHESTER TO ELKADER LINE. SOME OF THIS LIGHT RAIN COULD LINGER INTO MONDAY MORNING BEFORE MOVING AWAY FROM THE AREA. WITH THE NORTHWEST FLOW ALOFT...YET ANOTHER WAVE WILL QUICKLY ADVANCE TOWARD THE REGION FOR MONDAY NIGHT AND TUESDAY. THIS WAVE LOOKS LIKE IT WILL START OUT FARTHER NORTH COMING OUT OF CENTRAL ALBERTA AND SASKATCHEWAN WHICH WILL TAKE IT FARTHER NORTHEAST THAN THE PREVIOUS TWO WAVES. THE MODELS HAVE BEEN FAIRLY CONSISTENT SHOWING THIS WAVE TRACKING RIGHT OVER THE AREA WITH THE GFS INDICATING UP TO 16 PVU/S OF VORTICITY ADVECTION COMING ACROSS THE NORTHERN PORTIONS OF THE FORECAST AREA LATE MONDAY NIGHT INTO TUESDAY MORNING. THE QG RESPONSE FROM THIS WAVE IS EXPECTED TO BE MODERATE IN STRENGTH BUT VERY DEEP EXTENDING FROM 1000 UP TO 300 MB. VERY LITTLE IF ANY FRONTOGENESIS IS EXPECTED WITH THIS SYSTEM AND THE ISENTROPIC RESPONSE IS ONLY AROUND 2 UBAR/S ON THE 285K SURFACE. EXPECT THAT THIS SYSTEM WILL BE ABLE TO PRODUCE SOME PRECIPITATION LATE MONDAY NIGHT INTO TUESDAY MORNING. HAVE RAISED THE PRECIPITATION CHANCES TO 50 PERCENT ACROSS THE FAR NORTH AND EXTENDED THE 20 PERCENT CHANCES SOUTH TO COVER THE REMAINDER OF THE AREA. RAISED THE CHANCES TO 60 AND 70 PERCENT ACROSS THE EAST FOR TUESDAY MORNING WITH 30 AND 40 PERCENT CHANCES BACK ACROSS THE WEST. LOOKING AT THE FORECAST SOUNDINGS...EXPECTING MOST OF THIS PRECIPITATION TO FALL AS RAIN AS THE WARM AIR ADVECTION AHEAD OF THE WAVE SHOULD WARM THE LOW LEVEL TEMPERATURES ENOUGH TO KEEP THINGS LIQUID. HOWEVER...CAN NOT TOTALLY RULE SOME SNOW MIXING IN SO PLAN TO HAVE A LITTLE MIX FOR A WHILE. .LONG TERM...TUESDAY NIGHT THROUGH SATURDAY 141 AM CST SUN NOV 4 2012 MEDIUM RANGE MODELS IN VERY GOOD AGREEMENT THIS MORNING SHOWING THE UPPER LEVEL RIDGE OVER THE ROCKIES WILL SLIDE EAST ACROSS THE MIDWEST BEHIND THE TUESDAY SYSTEM. THIS RIDGING IS EXPECTED TO SLIDE EAST PAST THE REGION THURSDAY NIGHT AND FRIDAY ALLOWING SOUTHWEST FLOW ALOFT TO DEVELOP AS AN UPPER LEVEL LOW MOVES ACROSS THE NORTHERN ROCKIES ONTO THE HIGH PLAINS BY SATURDAY. AT THE SURFACE...CYCLOGENESIS SHOULD TAKE PLACE IN THE LEE OF THE ROCKIES FRIDAY NIGHT WITH THE LOW ADVANCING NORTHEAST INTO MINNESOTA SATURDAY. STILL SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCES ON WHERE THE WARM FRONT DEVELOPS WITH THE SURFACE LOW. THE GFS HAS THE WARM FRONT ALONG THE IOWA/MISSOURI BORDER AND SHOWS PRECIPITATION DEVELOPING NORTH OF THIS ALREADY FRIDAY WHILE THE 04.00Z ECMWF CONTINUES TO SHOW THE WARM FRONT WELL TO THE NORTH WITH ANY PRECIPITATION ACROSS SOUTHERN CANADA. THESE DIFFERENCES THEN CONTINUE THROUGH THE REMAINDER OF THE PERIOD WITH THE GFS BEING MUCH WETTER WHILE THE ECMWF KEEPS THE AREA IN THE WARM SECTOR AND DOES NOT DEVELOP ANY PRECIPITATION UNTIL FRIDAY NIGHT INTO SATURDAY AS THE SURFACE LOW AND COLD FRONT STARTS TO APPROACH. NO CHANGES PLANNED TO THE MODEL CONSENSUS GRIDS AT THIS POINT WHICH FAVOR THE DRIER ECMWF SOLUTION. && .AVIATION... 1025 PM CDT SAT NOV 3 2012 AN AREA OF PCPN WAS TRACKING SOUTHEAST ACROSS SOUTHERN MN...AND WILL MOVE ACROSS IOWA DURING THE OVERNIGHT HOURS. IT WAS MOSTLY -RA...BUT WILL MIX WITH SOME -SN AS TEMPS CONTINUE TO COOL. VSBYS WERE MOSTLY P6SM WITH ANY PCPN...WITH ONLY MINOR IF ANY ACCUMULATIONS. LATEST RAP13/HRRR/NAM12 CONTINUE TO KEEP THE BULK OF THE PCPN SOUTHWEST OF KLSE...BUT COULD MOVE ACROSS KRST. WILL CONTINUE -SH THERE...AND LEAVE KLSE PCPN FREE FOR NOW. FOR CIGS...SUB 3 KFT CLOUDS ARE ASSOCIATED WITH MUCH OF THE PCPN...WITH INCREASING LOW LEVEL RH AND BUFKIT SOUNDINGS SUPPORTING THESE LOWER CIGS. DAYTIME MIXING SHOULD PUSH CIG HEIGHTS UP DURING THE DAY ON SUN. THAT SAID...ANOTHER SHORTWAVE TROUGH WILL PUSH ACROSS THE REGION FOR LATE SUN NIGHT/MONDAY. SATURATION IS DEEPER AND MORE WIDESPREAD WITH THIS FEATURE...AND A PROLONGED PERIOD OF MVFR CIGS - OR CLOSE TO IT - LOOKS LIKELY FOR MONDAY. && .ARX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... 141 AM CST SUN NOV 4 2012 WI...NONE. MN...NONE. IA...NONE. && $$ SHORT TERM...04 LONG TERM...04 AVIATION.....RIECK
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS CHICAGO/ROMEOVILLE IL
203 PM CST SUN NOV 4 2012 .DISCUSSION... 1040 AM CST FOR MORNING UPDATE... HAVE MADE SOME TWEAKS TO GOING FORECAST MAINLY WITH RESPECT TO CLOUD COVER AND PRECIP TRENDS FOR TODAY. MORNING RAOB ANALYSIS AND GOES WATER VAPOR IMAGERY INDICATE MID- LEVEL SHORT WAVE PROPAGATING SOUTHEAST ACROSS THE AREA. THIS WAVE SEEMS A BIT DISJOINTED WITH BETTER LOW LEVEL WARM ADVECTION FORCING LINGERING TO THE WEST ACROSS IA...WHERE REGIONAL RADAR MOSAIC INDICATES SOME WEAK RETURNS. GUIDANCE MAINTAINS THIS THROUGH THE AFTERNOON...WITH PERSISTENT LOW LEVEL WAA AND RESULTING LIGHT PRECIP PRODUCTION WEST/SOUTHWEST OF THE FORECAST AREA. WEAK RADAR RETURNS OVER FAR WESTERN CWA HAVE DIMINISHED DURING THE MORNING...AND HAVE THUS REMOVED MENTIONABLE POPS FROM THOSE AREAS. FARTHER EAST...LAKE EFFECT RAIN SHOWERS CONTINUE TO DEVELOP ALONG MID-LAKE CONVERGENCE ZONE AND MOVE INLAND ACROSS NORTHWEST INDIANA COUNTIES. OF THE VARIOUS SHORT TERM/HIGH RESOLUTION GUIDANCE SETS THE RAP SEEMS TO BE HANDLING THE CURRENT LAKE PLUME THE BEST...AND WHILE IT WEAKENS THE ORGANIZATION OF THE LOW LEVEL WIND FIELD AND CONVERGENCE ZONE THIS AFTERNOON...IT MAINTAINS THE IDEA OF SOME SPOTTY LIGHT PRECIP FROM FAR ABOUT THE STATE LINE AREA EAST INTO WESTERN PORTER COUNTY THIS AFTERNOON. FORECAST SOUNDINGS INDICATE SOME GRADUAL WARMING ALOFT BY LATE AFTERNOON AND A SMALL DECREASE IN LAKE-850 MB DELTA T VALUES FROM ABOUT 17 DEG TO 15 DEG...AS WELL AS LOWERING OF EQUILIBRIUM HEIGHTS FROM ABOUT 5500-6000 FT TO LESS THAN 5000 FT BY 00Z. THUS SUSPECT LAKE EFFECT SHOWERS WILL BECOME WEAKER AND A LITTLE LESS ORGANIZED DURING THE MID/LATE AFTERNOON HOURS. OTHERWISE...ADJUSTED HOURLY SKY COVER GRIDS A BIT TO ACCOUNT FOR A LITTLE LESS CLOUD COVER NEAR THE IL/WI STATE LINE THROUGH THIS AFTERNOON. RATZER //PREV DISCUSSION... 202 AM CST A RELATIVELY QUIET PERIOD OF WEATHER TO CONTINUE FOR THE NEXT FEW DAYS...WITH THE NEXT SIGNIFICANT CHANCE FOR PCPN SETTING UP FOR ELECTION DAY TUESDAY. FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE NIGHT AND INTO SUNDAY...THE MAIN WEATHER CONCERNS WILL BE A CHANCE FOR SOME LIGHT SNOW SHOWERS OR FLURRIES IN THE ROCKFORD AREA AND LAKE EFFECT RAIN SHOWERS OVER NORTHERN PORTIONS OF LAKE AND PORTER COUNTIES IN INDIANA AND SOUTHEASTERN COOK COUNTY...ESPECIALLY NEAR THE LAKE. LATEST RADAR IMAGERY SHOWS A PERSISTENT AREA OF LAKE EFFECT SHOWERS OVER SOUTHERN LAKE MICHIGAN...FOCUSED IN A WEAK CONVERGENCE ZONE SET UP BY AN OFFSHORE LAND BREEZE FLOW PATTERN. COUPLED WITH LAKE SFC TO 850MB DELTA-T VALUES BTWN 15-18C...THE LAKE EFFECT SHOWERS SHOULD PERSIST THROUGH THE MORNING HOURS. AS A WEAK RIDGE OF HIGH PRESSURE BUILDS ACROSS THE UPPER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY AND INTO WI/IL TODAY...WEAK NORTHERLY LOW LEVEL WIND FLOW WILL PERSIST OVER THE REGION AND CONDITIONS WILL REMAIN CONDUCIVE TO SCT LAKE EFFECT RAIN SHOWERS AND ENHANCED CLOUDINESS THROUGH THE DAY TODAY AND INTO THIS EVENING. ALSO...HAVE BEEN MONITORING AN AREA PF PCPN ASSOCIATED WITH A SHORTWAVE DROPPING THROUGH NERN IA WHICH IS GENERATING SOME LIGHT PCPN. AS SFC TEMPERATURES DROP INTO THE LOWER 30S AND POSSIBLY SOME UPPER 20S...SOME VERY LIGHT SNOW OR FLURRIES ARE POSSIBLE OVER NWRN IL...INCLUDING THE ROCKFORD AREA. HOWEVER...WITH LITTLE AVAILABLE DEEP LAYER MOISTURE...LAST EVENING`S SOUNDING FROM DVN INDICATED PWAT OF ONLY 0.42 INCHES...NO MEASURABLE PCPN IS EXPECTED. AS THE SHORT WAVES QUICKLY DROPS INTO CENTRAL IL THIS AFTERNOON AND CONTINUES INTO SRN INDIANA THIS EVENING...ANY PCPN POTENTIAL OVER THE WRN PORTIONS OF THE CWA SHOULD COME TO AN END BY AROUND NOON. THE UPPER LEVEL PATTERN IS BECOMING SOMEWHAT BLOCKY AS A DEEP POLAR VORTEX DROPS SWD THROUGH QUEBEC SUNDAY NIGHT AND MONDAY WHILE UPPER RIDGING BUILDS EWD FROM THE WEST COAST INTO THE ROCKIES. THIS WILL SET UP A PERIOD OF NWLY FLOW ALOFT OVER THE UPPER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY AND INTO THE MIDWEST WITH A SERIES OF SHORTWAVES TRACKING NEAR THE LOCAL AREA. THE FIRST IN THE SERIES WILL TRACK THROUGH IOWA AND MISSOURI ON MONDAY AND INTO THE LOWER OHIO VALLEY MONDAY NIGHT. THIS SYSTEM WILL GENERATE AN AREA OF PCPN...HOWEVER...IT SHOULD REMAIN TOO FAR TO THE WEST TO BRING ANY PCPN INTO NCNRTL/NERN IL OR NWRN INDIANA. MODEL GUIDANCE IS VERY CONSISTENT ON THE TRACK OF THIS FEATURE...THOUGH THERE IS SOME DISAGREEMENT ON THE STRENGTH...WITH THE NAM A BIT WEAKER THAN THE GFS OR ECMWF. HOWEVER...REGARDLESS OF THESE DIFFERENCES...CONFIDENCE IS HIGH FOR A DRY FORECAST OVER THE CWA. THE NEXT SYSTEM IS SHAPING UP TO HAVE A MORE DIRECT IMPACT ON THE LOCAL AREA AS THE SHORTWAVE SHOULD TRACK THROUGH THE WESTERN GREAT LAKES AND MIDDLE MISSISSIPPI VALLEY. A WEAK COLD FRONT WILL ACCOMPANY THE THE SHORTWAVE ADDING LOW LEVEL FORCING TO THE MIDLEVEL FORCING OF THE SHORTWAVE. ALSO...THIS SYSTEM IS PACIFIC-SOURCED...AND CURRENTLY OVER THE GULF OF ALASKA...SO IT IS NOT EXPECTED TO BRING ANY SIGNIFICANTLY COLDER AIR...WITH TEMPERATURES ON TUESDAY EXPECTED TO REACH INTO THE UPPER 40S TO AROUND 50F. WITH REASONABLY DECENT CONTINUITY AND CONSISTENCY AMONG THE MODELS ON THIS SYSTEM...CONFIDENCE IS RELATIVELY HIGH FOR MEASURABLE LIQUID PCPN WITH THIS SYSTEM. ALSO...AS SWLY WINDS INCREASE IN ADVANCE OF THE APPROACHING COLD FRONT...ELECTION DAY SHOULD BE BREEZY AND WET. FOR THE LONGER TERM...CONFIDENCE STARTS TO QUICKLY DETERIORATE. BY LATE TUESDAY...THE POLAR VORTEX OVER SRN QUEBEC SHOULD FINALLY KICK OUT TO THE EAST...ALLOWING FOR SOME PROGRESSION TO THE UPPER LEVEL PATTERN. THERE IS SOME DISAGREEMENT BETWEEN THE GFS AND ECMWF ON HOW FAR EAST THE UPPER RIDGE WILL PENETRATE EAST OF THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER. THE ECMWF IS MUCH MORE AMPLIFIED THAN THE GFS...WHICH WOULD HAVE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON THE TRAIN OF NORTHERN STREAM SHORTWAVES. THESE MODEL DIFFERENCES COME INTO PLAY BY THE END OF THE PERIOD...ESPECIALLY FOR FRIDAY AND SATURDAY. THE MORE AMPLIFIED ECMWF SOLUTION WOULD SUGGEST BETTER CHANCES FOR PCPN THAN THE FLATTER...BROADER UPPER LEVEL PATTERN OF THE GFS. SO...WILL NOT MAKE ANY SIGNIFICANT CHANGES TO THE LATTER PORTIONS OF THE LONG RANGE FORECAST...AND JUST KEEP SOME LOW POPS FOR THE NORTHERN PORTIONS OF THE CWA FOR FRIDAY NIGHT AND SATURDAY WHEN THE ECMWF BRINGS A SOUTHERN STREAM SHORTWAVE THROUGH THE AREA. KREIN && .AVIATION... //ORD AND MDW CONCERNS...UPDATED 20Z... * WIND DIRECTIONS CONTINUE TO BE UNCERTAIN. RADAR AND VISIBLE SATELLITE SHOW THE APPROACH OF A LINE OF CUMULUS FROM THE EAST BEHIND WHICH THE LAKE BREEZE SHOULD MAYBE FINALLY TURN THINGS TO THE NORTHEAST AS HAS BEEN ANTICIPATED ALL AFTERNOON. * LOWERING CEILINGS TONIGHT BUT STILL LIKELY TO STAY ABOVE IFR. LENNING //DISCUSSION...UPDATED 18Z... A WEAK PRESSURE GRADIENT OVERHEAD IS ALLOWING WINDS TO FLUCTUATE IN BOTH SPEED AND DIRECTION EARLY THIS AFTERNOON. OVERALL THE TREND WOULD STILL APPEAR TO FAVOR A NORTHEASTERLY DIRECTION...ESPECIALLY IF A WEAK LAKE BREEZE CAN DEVELOP. DEVELOPING CUMULUS ALONG THE WATERFRONT SUGGESTS THIS MAY BE THE CASE...BUT ALSO RAISES THE POSSIBILITY OF SOMEWHAT LOWER CEILINGS IN THE 3500 FT RANGE THIS AFTERNOON. BOTH TRENDS WILL CONTINUE TO BE MONITORED. IF NOT THIS AFTERNOON...LOWER CIGS DO LOOK FAVORABLE THIS EVENING INTO TOMORROW MORNING IF DEVELOPING NORTHEAST FLOW OFF THE LAKE PUSHES THE CLOUDS NOW SEEN OVER INDIANA FARTHER WEST INTO DOWNTOWN CHICAGO. TO A LESSER DEGREE THE SAME TREND IS EXPECTED AT RFD BUT FOR DIFFERENT REASONS. THE AREA OUT WEST WILL BE CLOSER TO A LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM DROPPING THROUGH THE MIDWEST OVERNIGHT...BUT LIKELY NOT CLOSE ENOUGH TO BE UNDER THE PRECIPITATION SHIELD. LENNING //ORD AND MDW CONFIDENCE...UPDATED 20Z... * MEDIUM TO HIGH CONFIDENCE ON WINDS THIS AFTERNOON. * MEDIUM CONFIDENCE ON CEILING TRENDS OVERNIGHT. LENNING //OUTLOOK FOR ORD/MDW FOR 00Z TUESDAY-12Z SUNDAY...UPDATED 12Z... MONDAY NIGHT...VFR. TUESDAY...SHRA LIKELY TUESDAY AFTERNOON WITH A CHC OTHERWISE DURING THE DAY AND NIGHT. CHC OF MVFR. WEDNESDAY-THURSDAY...VFR. FRIDAY...SLIGHT CHC OF -RA DURING THE NIGHT. SATURDAY...SLIGHT CHC OF -RA DURING THE DAY. MTF && .MARINE... 102 PM CST FAIRLY BENIGN WEATHER ON THE LAKE THE NEXT 36 HOURS AS WEAK RIDGE OF HIGH PRESSURE MOVES ACROSS THE REGION. BY LATER MONDAY NIGHT INTO TUESDAY SOUTHERLY WINDS WILL INCREASE AHEAD OF A FAST MOVING CLIPPER LIKE SYSTEM DROPPING SOUTHEAST INTO THE UPPER GREAT LAKES. COULD SEE SOUTHWEST WINDS APPROACH LOW END GALES TUESDAY OVER NORTHERN PORTIONS OF THE LAKE BEFORE COLD FRONT SWEEPS ACROSS THE LAKE TUESDAY NIGHT WITH A HEALTHY SHOT OF COLD AIR ADVECTION IN THE WAKE OF THE FRONT LEADING TO A PERIOD OF FRESH NORTHWEST WINDS LATER TUESDAY NIGHT INTO EARLY WEDNESDAY BEFORE TRANSIENT HIGH PRESSURE BUILDS INTO THE AREA. MEDIUM RANGE MODELS HINT AT A FAIRLY POTENT STORM SYSTEM TRACKING INTO THE NORTHERN PLAINS LATE NEXT WEEK INTO NEXT WEEKEND WITH STRONG SOUTHERLIES A THREAT AHEAD OF THAT SYSTEM. IZZI && .LOT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... IL...NONE. IN...NONE. LM...NONE. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS CHICAGO/ROMEOVILLE IL
102 PM CST SUN NOV 4 2012 .DISCUSSION... 1040 AM CST FOR MORNING UPDATE... HAVE MADE SOME TWEAKS TO GOING FORECAST MAINLY WITH RESPECT TO CLOUD COVER AND PRECIP TRENDS FOR TODAY. MORNING RAOB ANALYSIS AND GOES WATER VAPOR IMAGERY INDICATE MID- LEVEL SHORT WAVE PROPAGATING SOUTHEAST ACROSS THE AREA. THIS WAVE SEEMS A BIT DISJOINTED WITH BETTER LOW LEVEL WARM ADVECTION FORCING LINGERING TO THE WEST ACROSS IA...WHERE REGIONAL RADAR MOSAIC INDICATES SOME WEAK RETURNS. GUIDANCE MAINTAINS THIS THROUGH THE AFTERNOON...WITH PERSISTENT LOW LEVEL WAA AND RESULTING LIGHT PRECIP PRODUCTION WEST/SOUTHWEST OF THE FORECAST AREA. WEAK RADAR RETURNS OVER FAR WESTERN CWA HAVE DIMINISHED DURING THE MORNING...AND HAVE THUS REMOVED MENTIONABLE POPS FROM THOSE AREAS. FARTHER EAST...LAKE EFFECT RAIN SHOWERS CONTINUE TO DEVELOP ALONG MID-LAKE CONVERGENCE ZONE AND MOVE INLAND ACROSS NORTHWEST INDIANA COUNTIES. OF THE VARIOUS SHORT TERM/HIGH RESOLUTION GUIDANCE SETS THE RAP SEEMS TO BE HANDLING THE CURRENT LAKE PLUME THE BEST...AND WHILE IT WEAKENS THE ORGANIZATION OF THE LOW LEVEL WIND FIELD AND CONVERGENCE ZONE THIS AFTERNOON...IT MAINTAINS THE IDEA OF SOME SPOTTY LIGHT PRECIP FROM FAR ABOUT THE STATE LINE AREA EAST INTO WESTERN PORTER COUNTY THIS AFTERNOON. FORECAST SOUNDINGS INDICATE SOME GRADUAL WARMING ALOFT BY LATE AFTERNOON AND A SMALL DECREASE IN LAKE-850 MB DELTA T VALUES FROM ABOUT 17 DEG TO 15 DEG...AS WELL AS LOWERING OF EQUILIBRIUM HEIGHTS FROM ABOUT 5500-6000 FT TO LESS THAN 5000 FT BY 00Z. THUS SUSPECT LAKE EFFECT SHOWERS WILL BECOME WEAKER AND A LITTLE LESS ORGANIZED DURING THE MID/LATE AFTERNOON HOURS. OTHERWISE...ADJUSTED HOURLY SKY COVER GRIDS A BIT TO ACCOUNT FOR A LITTLE LESS CLOUD COVER NEAR THE IL/WI STATE LINE THROUGH THIS AFTERNOON. RATZER //PREV DISCUSSION... 202 AM CST A RELATIVELY QUIET PERIOD OF WEATHER TO CONTINUE FOR THE NEXT FEW DAYS...WITH THE NEXT SIGNIFICANT CHANCE FOR PCPN SETTING UP FOR ELECTION DAY TUESDAY. FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE NIGHT AND INTO SUNDAY...THE MAIN WEATHER CONCERNS WILL BE A CHANCE FOR SOME LIGHT SNOW SHOWERS OR FLURRIES IN THE ROCKFORD AREA AND LAKE EFFECT RAIN SHOWERS OVER NORTHERN PORTIONS OF LAKE AND PORTER COUNTIES IN INDIANA AND SOUTHEASTERN COOK COUNTY...ESPECIALLY NEAR THE LAKE. LATEST RADAR IMAGERY SHOWS A PERSISTENT AREA OF LAKE EFFECT SHOWERS OVER SOUTHERN LAKE MICHIGAN...FOCUSED IN A WEAK CONVERGENCE ZONE SET UP BY AN OFFSHORE LAND BREEZE FLOW PATTERN. COUPLED WITH LAKE SFC TO 850MB DELTA-T VALUES BTWN 15-18C...THE LAKE EFFECT SHOWERS SHOULD PERSIST THROUGH THE MORNING HOURS. AS A WEAK RIDGE OF HIGH PRESSURE BUILDS ACROSS THE UPPER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY AND INTO WI/IL TODAY...WEAK NORTHERLY LOW LEVEL WIND FLOW WILL PERSIST OVER THE REGION AND CONDITIONS WILL REMAIN CONDUCIVE TO SCT LAKE EFFECT RAIN SHOWERS AND ENHANCED CLOUDINESS THROUGH THE DAY TODAY AND INTO THIS EVENING. ALSO...HAVE BEEN MONITORING AN AREA PF PCPN ASSOCIATED WITH A SHORTWAVE DROPPING THROUGH NERN IA WHICH IS GENERATING SOME LIGHT PCPN. AS SFC TEMPERATURES DROP INTO THE LOWER 30S AND POSSIBLY SOME UPPER 20S...SOME VERY LIGHT SNOW OR FLURRIES ARE POSSIBLE OVER NWRN IL...INCLUDING THE ROCKFORD AREA. HOWEVER...WITH LITTLE AVAILABLE DEEP LAYER MOISTURE...LAST EVENING`S SOUNDING FROM DVN INDICATED PWAT OF ONLY 0.42 INCHES...NO MEASURABLE PCPN IS EXPECTED. AS THE SHORT WAVES QUICKLY DROPS INTO CENTRAL IL THIS AFTERNOON AND CONTINUES INTO SRN INDIANA THIS EVENING...ANY PCPN POTENTIAL OVER THE WRN PORTIONS OF THE CWA SHOULD COME TO AN END BY AROUND NOON. THE UPPER LEVEL PATTERN IS BECOMING SOMEWHAT BLOCKY AS A DEEP POLAR VORTEX DROPS SWD THROUGH QUEBEC SUNDAY NIGHT AND MONDAY WHILE UPPER RIDGING BUILDS EWD FROM THE WEST COAST INTO THE ROCKIES. THIS WILL SET UP A PERIOD OF NWLY FLOW ALOFT OVER THE UPPER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY AND INTO THE MIDWEST WITH A SERIES OF SHORTWAVES TRACKING NEAR THE LOCAL AREA. THE FIRST IN THE SERIES WILL TRACK THROUGH IOWA AND MISSOURI ON MONDAY AND INTO THE LOWER OHIO VALLEY MONDAY NIGHT. THIS SYSTEM WILL GENERATE AN AREA OF PCPN...HOWEVER...IT SHOULD REMAIN TOO FAR TO THE WEST TO BRING ANY PCPN INTO NCNRTL/NERN IL OR NWRN INDIANA. MODEL GUIDANCE IS VERY CONSISTENT ON THE TRACK OF THIS FEATURE...THOUGH THERE IS SOME DISAGREEMENT ON THE STRENGTH...WITH THE NAM A BIT WEAKER THAN THE GFS OR ECMWF. HOWEVER...REGARDLESS OF THESE DIFFERENCES...CONFIDENCE IS HIGH FOR A DRY FORECAST OVER THE CWA. THE NEXT SYSTEM IS SHAPING UP TO HAVE A MORE DIRECT IMPACT ON THE LOCAL AREA AS THE SHORTWAVE SHOULD TRACK THROUGH THE WESTERN GREAT LAKES AND MIDDLE MISSISSIPPI VALLEY. A WEAK COLD FRONT WILL ACCOMPANY THE THE SHORTWAVE ADDING LOW LEVEL FORCING TO THE MIDLEVEL FORCING OF THE SHORTWAVE. ALSO...THIS SYSTEM IS PACIFIC-SOURCED...AND CURRENTLY OVER THE GULF OF ALASKA...SO IT IS NOT EXPECTED TO BRING ANY SIGNIFICANTLY COLDER AIR...WITH TEMPERATURES ON TUESDAY EXPECTED TO REACH INTO THE UPPER 40S TO AROUND 50F. WITH REASONABLY DECENT CONTINUITY AND CONSISTENCY AMONG THE MODELS ON THIS SYSTEM...CONFIDENCE IS RELATIVELY HIGH FOR MEASURABLE LIQUID PCPN WITH THIS SYSTEM. ALSO...AS SWLY WINDS INCREASE IN ADVANCE OF THE APPROACHING COLD FRONT...ELECTION DAY SHOULD BE BREEZY AND WET. FOR THE LONGER TERM...CONFIDENCE STARTS TO QUICKLY DETERIORATE. BY LATE TUESDAY...THE POLAR VORTEX OVER SRN QUEBEC SHOULD FINALLY KICK OUT TO THE EAST...ALLOWING FOR SOME PROGRESSION TO THE UPPER LEVEL PATTERN. THERE IS SOME DISAGREEMENT BETWEEN THE GFS AND ECMWF ON HOW FAR EAST THE UPPER RIDGE WILL PENETRATE EAST OF THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER. THE ECMWF IS MUCH MORE AMPLIFIED THAN THE GFS...WHICH WOULD HAVE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON THE TRAIN OF NORTHERN STREAM SHORTWAVES. THESE MODEL DIFFERENCES COME INTO PLAY BY THE END OF THE PERIOD...ESPECIALLY FOR FRIDAY AND SATURDAY. THE MORE AMPLIFIED ECMWF SOLUTION WOULD SUGGEST BETTER CHANCES FOR PCPN THAN THE FLATTER...BROADER UPPER LEVEL PATTERN OF THE GFS. SO...WILL NOT MAKE ANY SIGNIFICANT CHANGES TO THE LATTER PORTIONS OF THE LONG RANGE FORECAST...AND JUST KEEP SOME LOW POPS FOR THE NORTHERN PORTIONS OF THE CWA FOR FRIDAY NIGHT AND SATURDAY WHEN THE ECMWF BRINGS A SOUTHERN STREAM SHORTWAVE THROUGH THE AREA. KREIN && .AVIATION... //ORD AND MDW CONCERNS...UPDATED 18Z... * WINDS WILL BE RELATIVELY LIGHT TODAY BUT DIRECTION WILL BE SOMEWHAT UNCERTAIN...VARYING FROM NW TO ENE. POSSIBLE LAKE BREEZE THIS AFTERNOON WOULD FAVOR THE NE QUADRANT. * POSSIBLE LOWER CEILINGS TONIGHT INTO TOMORROW MORNING...THOUGH LIKELY STAYING ABOVE IFR. LENNING //DISCUSSION...UPDATED 18Z... A WEAK PRESSURE GRADIENT OVERHEAD IS ALLOWING WINDS TO FLUCTUATE IN BOTH SPEED AND DIRECTION EARLY THIS AFTERNOON. OVERALL THE TREND WOULD STILL APPEAR TO FAVOR A NORTHEASTERLY DIRECTION...ESPECIALLY IF A WEAK LAKE BREEZE CAN DEVELOP. DEVELOPING CUMULUS ALONG THE WATERFRONT SUGGESTS THIS MAY BE THE CASE...BUT ALSO RAISES THE POSSIBILITY OF SOMEWHAT LOWER CEILINGS IN THE 3500 FT RANGE THIS AFTERNOON. BOTH TRENDS WILL CONTINUE TO BE MONITORED. IF NOT THIS AFTERNOON...LOWER CIGS DO LOOK FAVORABLE THIS EVENING INTO TOMORROW MORNING IF DEVELOPING NORTHEAST FLOW OFF THE LAKE PUSHES THE CLOUDS NOW SEEN OVER INDIANA FARTHER WEST INTO DOWNTOWN CHICAGO. TO A LESSER DEGREE THE SAME TREND IS EXPECTED AT RFD BUT FOR DIFFERENT REASONS. THE AREA OUT WEST WILL BE CLOSER TO A LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM DROPPING THROUGH THE MIDWEST OVERNIGHT...BUT LIKELY NOT CLOSE ENOUGH TO BE UNDER THE PRECIPITATION SHIELD. LENNING //ORD AND MDW CONFIDENCE...UPDATED 18Z... * HIGH CONFIDENCE IN WIND SPEEDS GENERALLY BELOW 10 KT BUT LOW CONFIDENCE IN EXACT DIRECTION. * MEDIUM CONFIDENCE IN TREND OF LOWER CEILINGS OVERNIGHT. LENNING //OUTLOOK FOR ORD/MDW FOR 00Z TUESDAY-12Z SUNDAY...UPDATED 12Z... MONDAY NIGHT...VFR. TUESDAY...SHRA LIKELY TUESDAY AFTERNOON WITH A CHC OTHERWISE DURING THE DAY AND NIGHT. CHC OF MVFR. WEDNESDAY-THURSDAY...VFR. FRIDAY...SLIGHT CHC OF -RA DURING THE NIGHT. SATURDAY...SLIGHT CHC OF -RA DURING THE DAY. MTF && .MARINE... 102 PM CST FAIRLY BENIGN WEATHER ON THE LAKE THE NEXT 36 HOURS AS WEAK RIDGE OF HIGH PRESSURE MOVES ACROSS THE REGION. BY LATER MONDAY NIGHT INTO TUESDAY SOUTHERLY WINDS WILL INCREASE AHEAD OF A FAST MOVING CLIPPER LIKE SYSTEM DROPPING SOUTHEAST INTO THE UPPER GREAT LAKES. COULD SEE SOUTHWEST WINDS APPROACH LOW END GALES TUESDAY OVER NORTHERN PORTIONS OF THE LAKE BEFORE COLD FRONT SWEEPS ACROSS THE LAKE TUESDAY NIGHT WITH A HEALTHY SHOT OF COLD AIR ADVECTION IN THE WAKE OF THE FRONT LEADING TO A PERIOD OF FRESH NORTHWEST WINDS LATER TUESDAY NIGHT INTO EARLY WEDNESDAY BEFORE TRANSIENT HIGH PRESSURE BUILDS INTO THE AREA. MEDIUM RANGE MODELS HINT AT A FAIRLY POTENT STORM SYSTEM TRACKING INTO THE NORTHERN PLAINS LATE NEXT WEEK INTO NEXT WEEKEND WITH STRONG SOUTHERLIES A THREAT AHEAD OF THAT SYSTEM. IZZI && .LOT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... IL...NONE. IN...NONE. LM...NONE. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS CHICAGO/ROMEOVILLE IL
1217 PM CST SUN NOV 4 2012 .DISCUSSION... 1040 AM CST FOR MORNING UPDATE... HAVE MADE SOME TWEAKS TO GOING FORECAST MAINLY WITH RESPECT TO CLOUD COVER AND PRECIP TRENDS FOR TODAY. MORNING RAOB ANALYSIS AND GOES WATER VAPOR IMAGERY INDICATE MID- LEVEL SHORT WAVE PROPAGATING SOUTHEAST ACROSS THE AREA. THIS WAVE SEEMS A BIT DISJOINTED WITH BETTER LOW LEVEL WARM ADVECTION FORCING LINGERING TO THE WEST ACROSS IA...WHERE REGIONAL RADAR MOSAIC INDICATES SOME WEAK RETURNS. GUIDANCE MAINTAINS THIS THROUGH THE AFTERNOON...WITH PERSISTENT LOW LEVEL WAA AND RESULTING LIGHT PRECIP PRODUCTION WEST/SOUTHWEST OF THE FORECAST AREA. WEAK RADAR RETURNS OVER FAR WESTERN CWA HAVE DIMINISHED DURING THE MORNING...AND HAVE THUS REMOVED MENTIONABLE POPS FROM THOSE AREAS. FARTHER EAST...LAKE EFFECT RAIN SHOWERS CONTINUE TO DEVELOP ALONG MID-LAKE CONVERGENCE ZONE AND MOVE INLAND ACROSS NORTHWEST INDIANA COUNTIES. OF THE VARIOUS SHORT TERM/HIGH RESOLUTION GUIDANCE SETS THE RAP SEEMS TO BE HANDLING THE CURRENT LAKE PLUME THE BEST...AND WHILE IT WEAKENS THE ORGANIZATION OF THE LOW LEVEL WIND FIELD AND CONVERGENCE ZONE THIS AFTERNOON...IT MAINTAINS THE IDEA OF SOME SPOTTY LIGHT PRECIP FROM FAR ABOUT THE STATE LINE AREA EAST INTO WESTERN PORTER COUNTY THIS AFTERNOON. FORECAST SOUNDINGS INDICATE SOME GRADUAL WARMING ALOFT BY LATE AFTERNOON AND A SMALL DECREASE IN LAKE-850 MB DELTA T VALUES FROM ABOUT 17 DEG TO 15 DEG...AS WELL AS LOWERING OF EQUILIBRIUM HEIGHTS FROM ABOUT 5500-6000 FT TO LESS THAN 5000 FT BY 00Z. THUS SUSPECT LAKE EFFECT SHOWERS WILL BECOME WEAKER AND A LITTLE LESS ORGANIZED DURING THE MID/LATE AFTERNOON HOURS. OTHERWISE...ADJUSTED HOURLY SKY COVER GRIDS A BIT TO ACCOUNT FOR A LITTLE LESS CLOUD COVER NEAR THE IL/WI STATE LINE THROUGH THIS AFTERNOON. RATZER //PREV DISCUSSION... 202 AM CST A RELATIVELY QUIET PERIOD OF WEATHER TO CONTINUE FOR THE NEXT FEW DAYS...WITH THE NEXT SIGNIFICANT CHANCE FOR PCPN SETTING UP FOR ELECTION DAY TUESDAY. FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE NIGHT AND INTO SUNDAY...THE MAIN WEATHER CONCERNS WILL BE A CHANCE FOR SOME LIGHT SNOW SHOWERS OR FLURRIES IN THE ROCKFORD AREA AND LAKE EFFECT RAIN SHOWERS OVER NORTHERN PORTIONS OF LAKE AND PORTER COUNTIES IN INDIANA AND SOUTHEASTERN COOK COUNTY...ESPECIALLY NEAR THE LAKE. LATEST RADAR IMAGERY SHOWS A PERSISTENT AREA OF LAKE EFFECT SHOWERS OVER SOUTHERN LAKE MICHIGAN...FOCUSED IN A WEAK CONVERGENCE ZONE SET UP BY AN OFFSHORE LAND BREEZE FLOW PATTERN. COUPLED WITH LAKE SFC TO 850MB DELTA-T VALUES BTWN 15-18C...THE LAKE EFFECT SHOWERS SHOULD PERSIST THROUGH THE MORNING HOURS. AS A WEAK RIDGE OF HIGH PRESSURE BUILDS ACROSS THE UPPER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY AND INTO WI/IL TODAY...WEAK NORTHERLY LOW LEVEL WIND FLOW WILL PERSIST OVER THE REGION AND CONDITIONS WILL REMAIN CONDUCIVE TO SCT LAKE EFFECT RAIN SHOWERS AND ENHANCED CLOUDINESS THROUGH THE DAY TODAY AND INTO THIS EVENING. ALSO...HAVE BEEN MONITORING AN AREA PF PCPN ASSOCIATED WITH A SHORTWAVE DROPPING THROUGH NERN IA WHICH IS GENERATING SOME LIGHT PCPN. AS SFC TEMPERATURES DROP INTO THE LOWER 30S AND POSSIBLY SOME UPPER 20S...SOME VERY LIGHT SNOW OR FLURRIES ARE POSSIBLE OVER NWRN IL...INCLUDING THE ROCKFORD AREA. HOWEVER...WITH LITTLE AVAILABLE DEEP LAYER MOISTURE...LAST EVENING`S SOUNDING FROM DVN INDICATED PWAT OF ONLY 0.42 INCHES...NO MEASURABLE PCPN IS EXPECTED. AS THE SHORT WAVES QUICKLY DROPS INTO CENTRAL IL THIS AFTERNOON AND CONTINUES INTO SRN INDIANA THIS EVENING...ANY PCPN POTENTIAL OVER THE WRN PORTIONS OF THE CWA SHOULD COME TO AN END BY AROUND NOON. THE UPPER LEVEL PATTERN IS BECOMING SOMEWHAT BLOCKY AS A DEEP POLAR VORTEX DROPS SWD THROUGH QUEBEC SUNDAY NIGHT AND MONDAY WHILE UPPER RIDGING BUILDS EWD FROM THE WEST COAST INTO THE ROCKIES. THIS WILL SET UP A PERIOD OF NWLY FLOW ALOFT OVER THE UPPER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY AND INTO THE MIDWEST WITH A SERIES OF SHORTWAVES TRACKING NEAR THE LOCAL AREA. THE FIRST IN THE SERIES WILL TRACK THROUGH IOWA AND MISSOURI ON MONDAY AND INTO THE LOWER OHIO VALLEY MONDAY NIGHT. THIS SYSTEM WILL GENERATE AN AREA OF PCPN...HOWEVER...IT SHOULD REMAIN TOO FAR TO THE WEST TO BRING ANY PCPN INTO NCNRTL/NERN IL OR NWRN INDIANA. MODEL GUIDANCE IS VERY CONSISTENT ON THE TRACK OF THIS FEATURE...THOUGH THERE IS SOME DISAGREEMENT ON THE STRENGTH...WITH THE NAM A BIT WEAKER THAN THE GFS OR ECMWF. HOWEVER...REGARDLESS OF THESE DIFFERENCES...CONFIDENCE IS HIGH FOR A DRY FORECAST OVER THE CWA. THE NEXT SYSTEM IS SHAPING UP TO HAVE A MORE DIRECT IMPACT ON THE LOCAL AREA AS THE SHORTWAVE SHOULD TRACK THROUGH THE WESTERN GREAT LAKES AND MIDDLE MISSISSIPPI VALLEY. A WEAK COLD FRONT WILL ACCOMPANY THE THE SHORTWAVE ADDING LOW LEVEL FORCING TO THE MIDLEVEL FORCING OF THE SHORTWAVE. ALSO...THIS SYSTEM IS PACIFIC-SOURCED...AND CURRENTLY OVER THE GULF OF ALASKA...SO IT IS NOT EXPECTED TO BRING ANY SIGNIFICANTLY COLDER AIR...WITH TEMPERATURES ON TUESDAY EXPECTED TO REACH INTO THE UPPER 40S TO AROUND 50F. WITH REASONABLY DECENT CONTINUITY AND CONSISTENCY AMONG THE MODELS ON THIS SYSTEM...CONFIDENCE IS RELATIVELY HIGH FOR MEASURABLE LIQUID PCPN WITH THIS SYSTEM. ALSO...AS SWLY WINDS INCREASE IN ADVANCE OF THE APPROACHING COLD FRONT...ELECTION DAY SHOULD BE BREEZY AND WET. FOR THE LONGER TERM...CONFIDENCE STARTS TO QUICKLY DETERIORATE. BY LATE TUESDAY...THE POLAR VORTEX OVER SRN QUEBEC SHOULD FINALLY KICK OUT TO THE EAST...ALLOWING FOR SOME PROGRESSION TO THE UPPER LEVEL PATTERN. THERE IS SOME DISAGREEMENT BETWEEN THE GFS AND ECMWF ON HOW FAR EAST THE UPPER RIDGE WILL PENETRATE EAST OF THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER. THE ECMWF IS MUCH MORE AMPLIFIED THAN THE GFS...WHICH WOULD HAVE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON THE TRAIN OF NORTHERN STREAM SHORTWAVES. THESE MODEL DIFFERENCES COME INTO PLAY BY THE END OF THE PERIOD...ESPECIALLY FOR FRIDAY AND SATURDAY. THE MORE AMPLIFIED ECMWF SOLUTION WOULD SUGGEST BETTER CHANCES FOR PCPN THAN THE FLATTER...BROADER UPPER LEVEL PATTERN OF THE GFS. SO...WILL NOT MAKE ANY SIGNIFICANT CHANGES TO THE LATTER PORTIONS OF THE LONG RANGE FORECAST...AND JUST KEEP SOME LOW POPS FOR THE NORTHERN PORTIONS OF THE CWA FOR FRIDAY NIGHT AND SATURDAY WHEN THE ECMWF BRINGS A SOUTHERN STREAM SHORTWAVE THROUGH THE AREA. KREIN && .AVIATION... //ORD AND MDW CONCERNS...UPDATED 18Z... * WINDS WILL BE RELATIVELY LIGHT TODAY BUT DIRECTION WILL BE SOMEWHAT UNCERTAIN...VARYING FROM NW TO ENE. POSSIBLE LAKE BREEZE THIS AFTERNOON WOULD FAVOR THE NE QUADRANT. * POSSIBLE LOWER CEILINGS TONIGHT INTO TOMORROW MORNING...THOUGH LIKELY STAYING ABOVE IFR. LENNING //DISCUSSION...UPDATED 18Z... A WEAK PRESSURE GRADIENT OVERHEAD IS ALLOWING WINDS TO FLUCTUATE IN BOTH SPEED AND DIRECTION EARLY THIS AFTERNOON. OVERALL THE TREND WOULD STILL APPEAR TO FAVOR A NORTHEASTERLY DIRECTION...ESPECIALLY IF A WEAK LAKE BREEZE CAN DEVELOP. DEVELOPING CUMULUS ALONG THE WATERFRONT SUGGESTS THIS MAY BE THE CASE...BUT ALSO RAISES THE POSSIBILITY OF SOMEWHAT LOWER CEILINGS IN THE 3500 FT RANGE THIS AFTERNOON. BOTH TRENDS WILL CONTINUE TO BE MONITORED. IF NOT THIS AFTERNOON...LOWER CIGS DO LOOK FAVORABLE THIS EVENING INTO TOMORROW MORNING IF DEVELOPING NORTHEAST FLOW OFF THE LAKE PUSHES THE CLOUDS NOW SEEN OVER INDIANA FARTHER WEST INTO DOWNTOWN CHICAGO. TO A LESSER DEGREE THE SAME TREND IS EXPECTED AT RFD BUT FOR DIFFERENT REASONS. THE AREA OUT WEST WILL BE CLOSER TO A LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM DROPPING THROUGH THE MIDWEST OVERNIGHT...BUT LIKELY NOT CLOSE ENOUGH TO BE UNDER THE PRECIPITATION SHIELD. LENNING //ORD AND MDW CONFIDENCE...UPDATED 18Z... * HIGH CONFIDENCE IN WIND SPEEDS GENERALLY BELOW 10 KT BUT LOW CONFIDENCE IN EXACT DIRECTION. * MEDIUM CONFIDENCE IN TREND OF LOWER CEILINGS OVERNIGHT. LENNING //OUTLOOK FOR ORD/MDW FOR 00Z TUESDAY-12Z SUNDAY...UPDATED 12Z... MONDAY NIGHT...VFR. TUESDAY...SHRA LIKELY TUESDAY AFTERNOON WITH A CHC OTHERWISE DURING THE DAY AND NIGHT. CHC OF MVFR. WEDNESDAY-THURSDAY...VFR. FRIDAY...SLIGHT CHC OF -RA DURING THE NIGHT. SATURDAY...SLIGHT CHC OF -RA DURING THE DAY. MTF && .MARINE... 145 AM CST AFTER A WEEK STRAIGHT OF NORTHERLY WINDS AND HIGHER WAVES...QUIET WEATHER WILL PREVAIL INTO THE START OF THIS WEEK. WINDS MAY BE VARIABLE AT TIMES OVER THE LAKE BY LATER TONIGHT THROUGH MONDAY AS A HIGH PRESSURE RIDGE SLOWLY MOVES EAST OVER THE LAKE. WINDS WILL THEN TURN SOUTHERLY LATE MONDAY NIGHT INTO TUESDAY AHEAD OF A LOW MOVING QUICKLY SOUTHEAST ACROSS THE CANADIAN PRAIRIE PROVINCES. THIS ALREADY HAS A GOOD PRESSURE AND PRESSURE TENDENCY PATTERN SIGNAL TO RESULT IN 30 KT /OR POSSIBLY JUST HIGHER/ WINDS OVER THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THE LAKE AND WAVES BRIEFLY UP TOWARD 10 FT. AN ASSOCIATED COLD FRONT IS LIKELY TO MOVE THROUGH THE LAKE ON TUESDAY NIGHT...BUT THIS FRONT SHOULD BE SLOWING AND WEAKENING AS IT CROSSES THE LAKE. HIGH PRESSURE IS EXPECTED TO PREVAIL FOR A DAY OR TWO AFTER THIS TIME...BEFORE SOUTHERLY FLOW INTO NEXT WEEKEND. MTF && .LOT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... IL...NONE. IN...NONE. LM...NONE. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS CHICAGO/ROMEOVILLE IL
1040 AM CST SUN NOV 4 2012 .DISCUSSION... 1040 AM CST FOR MORNING UPDATE... HAVE MADE SOME TWEAKS TO GOING FORECAST MAINLY WITH RESPECT TO CLOUD COVER AND PRECIP TRENDS FOR TODAY. MORNING RAOB ANALYSIS AND GOES WATER VAPOR IMAGERY INDICATE MID- LEVEL SHORT WAVE PROPAGATING SOUTHEAST ACROSS THE AREA. THIS WAVE SEEMS A BIT DISJOINTED WITH BETTER LOW LEVEL WARM ADVECTION FORCING LINGERING TO THE WEST ACROSS IA...WHERE REGIONAL RADAR MOSAIC INDICATES SOME WEAK RETURNS. GUIDANCE MAINTAINS THIS THROUGH THE AFTERNOON...WITH PERSISTENT LOW LEVEL WAA AND RESULTING LIGHT PRECIP PRODUCTION WEST/SOUTHWEST OF THE FORECAST AREA. WEAK RADAR RETURNS OVER FAR WESTERN CWA HAVE DIMINISHED DURING THE MORNING...AND HAVE THUS REMOVED MENTIONABLE POPS FROM THOSE AREAS. FARTHER EAST...LAKE EFFECT RAIN SHOWERS CONTINUE TO DEVELOP ALONG MID-LAKE CONVERGENCE ZONE AND MOVE INLAND ACROSS NORTHWEST INDIANA COUNTIES. OF THE VARIOUS SHORT TERM/HIGH RESOLUTION GUIDANCE SETS THE RAP SEEMS TO BE HANDLING THE CURRENT LAKE PLUME THE BEST...AND WHILE IT WEAKENS THE ORGANIZATION OF THE LOW LEVEL WIND FIELD AND CONVERGENCE ZONE THIS AFTERNOON...IT MAINTAINS THE IDEA OF SOME SPOTTY LIGHT PRECIP FROM FAR ABOUT THE STATE LINE AREA EAST INTO WESTERN PORTER COUNTY THIS AFTERNOON. FORECAST SOUNDINGS INDICATE SOME GRADUAL WARMING ALOFT BY LATE AFTERNOON AND A SMALL DECREASE IN LAKE-850 MB DELTA T VALUES FROM ABOUT 17 DEG TO 15 DEG...AS WELL AS LOWERING OF EQUILIBRIUM HEIGHTS FROM ABOUT 5500-6000 FT TO LESS THAN 5000 FT BY 00Z. THUS SUSPECT LAKE EFFECT SHOWERS WILL BECOME WEAKER AND A LITTLE LESS ORGANIZED DURING THE MID/LATE AFTERNOON HOURS. OTHERWISE...ADJUSTED HOURLY SKY COVER GRIDS A BIT TO ACCOUNT FOR A LITTLE LESS CLOUD COVER NEAR THE IL/WI STATE LINE THROUGH THIS AFTERNOON. RATZER && .PREV DISCUSSION... 202 AM CST A RELATIVELY QUIET PERIOD OF WEATHER TO CONTINUE FOR THE NEXT FEW DAYS...WITH THE NEXT SIGNIFICANT CHANCE FOR PCPN SETTING UP FOR ELECTION DAY TUESDAY. FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE NIGHT AND INTO SUNDAY...THE MAIN WEATHER CONCERNS WILL BE A CHANCE FOR SOME LIGHT SNOW SHOWERS OR FLURRIES IN THE ROCKFORD AREA AND LAKE EFFECT RAIN SHOWERS OVER NORTHERN PORTIONS OF LAKE AND PORTER COUNTIES IN INDIANA AND SOUTHEASTERN COOK COUNTY...ESPECIALLY NEAR THE LAKE. LATEST RADAR IMAGERY SHOWS A PERSISTENT AREA OF LAKE EFFECT SHOWERS OVER SOUTHERN LAKE MICHIGAN...FOCUSED IN A WEAK CONVERGENCE ZONE SET UP BY AN OFFSHORE LAND BREEZE FLOW PATTERN. COUPLED WITH LAKE SFC TO 850MB DELTA-T VALUES BTWN 15-18C...THE LAKE EFFECT SHOWERS SHOULD PERSIST THROUGH THE MORNING HOURS. AS A WEAK RIDGE OF HIGH PRESSURE BUILDS ACROSS THE UPPER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY AND INTO WI/IL TODAY...WEAK NORTHERLY LOW LEVEL WIND FLOW WILL PERSIST OVER THE REGION AND CONDITIONS WILL REMAIN CONDUCIVE TO SCT LAKE EFFECT RAIN SHOWERS AND ENHANCED CLOUDINESS THROUGH THE DAY TODAY AND INTO THIS EVENING. ALSO...HAVE BEEN MONITORING AN AREA PF PCPN ASSOCIATED WITH A SHORTWAVE DROPPING THROUGH NERN IA WHICH IS GENERATING SOME LIGHT PCPN. AS SFC TEMPERATURES DROP INTO THE LOWER 30S AND POSSIBLY SOME UPPER 20S...SOME VERY LIGHT SNOW OR FLURRIES ARE POSSIBLE OVER NWRN IL...INCLUDING THE ROCKFORD AREA. HOWEVER...WITH LITTLE AVAILABLE DEEP LAYER MOISTURE...LAST EVENING`S SOUNDING FROM DVN INDICATED PWAT OF ONLY 0.42 INCHES...NO MEASURABLE PCPN IS EXPECTED. AS THE SHORT WAVES QUICKLY DROPS INTO CENTRAL IL THIS AFTERNOON AND CONTINUES INTO SRN INDIANA THIS EVENING...ANY PCPN POTENTIAL OVER THE WRN PORTIONS OF THE CWA SHOULD COME TO AN END BY AROUND NOON. THE UPPER LEVEL PATTERN IS BECOMING SOMEWHAT BLOCKY AS A DEEP POLAR VORTEX DROPS SWD THROUGH QUEBEC SUNDAY NIGHT AND MONDAY WHILE UPPER RIDGING BUILDS EWD FROM THE WEST COAST INTO THE ROCKIES. THIS WILL SET UP A PERIOD OF NWLY FLOW ALOFT OVER THE UPPER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY AND INTO THE MIDWEST WITH A SERIES OF SHORTWAVES TRACKING NEAR THE LOCAL AREA. THE FIRST IN THE SERIES WILL TRACK THROUGH IOWA AND MISSOURI ON MONDAY AND INTO THE LOWER OHIO VALLEY MONDAY NIGHT. THIS SYSTEM WILL GENERATE AN AREA OF PCPN...HOWEVER...IT SHOULD REMAIN TOO FAR TO THE WEST TO BRING ANY PCPN INTO NCNRTL/NERN IL OR NWRN INDIANA. MODEL GUIDANCE IS VERY CONSISTENT ON THE TRACK OF THIS FEATURE...THOUGH THERE IS SOME DISAGREEMENT ON THE STRENGTH...WITH THE NAM A BIT WEAKER THAN THE GFS OR ECMWF. HOWEVER...REGARDLESS OF THESE DIFFERENCES...CONFIDENCE IS HIGH FOR A DRY FORECAST OVER THE CWA. THE NEXT SYSTEM IS SHAPING UP TO HAVE A MORE DIRECT IMPACT ON THE LOCAL AREA AS THE SHORTWAVE SHOULD TRACK THROUGH THE WESTERN GREAT LAKES AND MIDDLE MISSISSIPPI VALLEY. A WEAK COLD FRONT WILL ACCOMPANY THE THE SHORTWAVE ADDING LOW LEVEL FORCING TO THE MIDLEVEL FORCING OF THE SHORTWAVE. ALSO...THIS SYSTEM IS PACIFIC-SOURCED...AND CURRENTLY OVER THE GULF OF ALASKA...SO IT IS NOT EXPECTED TO BRING ANY SIGNIFICANTLY COLDER AIR...WITH TEMPERATURES ON TUESDAY EXPECTED TO REACH INTO THE UPPER 40S TO AROUND 50F. WITH REASONABLY DECENT CONTINUITY AND CONSISTENCY AMONG THE MODELS ON THIS SYSTEM...CONFIDENCE IS RELATIVELY HIGH FOR MEASURABLE LIQUID PCPN WITH THIS SYSTEM. ALSO...AS SWLY WINDS INCREASE IN ADVANCE OF THE APPROACHING COLD FRONT...ELECTION DAY SHOULD BE BREEZY AND WET. FOR THE LONGER TERM...CONFIDENCE STARTS TO QUICKLY DETERIORATE. BY LATE TUESDAY...THE POLAR VORTEX OVER SRN QUEBEC SHOULD FINALLY KICK OUT TO THE EAST...ALLOWING FOR SOME PROGRESSION TO THE UPPER LEVEL PATTERN. THERE IS SOME DISAGREEMENT BETWEEN THE GFS AND ECMWF ON HOW FAR EAST THE UPPER RIDGE WILL PENETRATE EAST OF THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER. THE ECMWF IS MUCH MORE AMPLIFIED THAN THE GFS...WHICH WOULD HAVE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON THE TRAIN OF NORTHERN STREAM SHORTWAVES. THESE MODEL DIFFERENCES COME INTO PLAY BY THE END OF THE PERIOD...ESPECIALLY FOR FRIDAY AND SATURDAY. THE MORE AMPLIFIED ECMWF SOLUTION WOULD SUGGEST BETTER CHANCES FOR PCPN THAN THE FLATTER...BROADER UPPER LEVEL PATTERN OF THE GFS. SO...WILL NOT MAKE ANY SIGNIFICANT CHANGES TO THE LATTER PORTIONS OF THE LONG RANGE FORECAST...AND JUST KEEP SOME LOW POPS FOR THE NORTHERN PORTIONS OF THE CWA FOR FRIDAY NIGHT AND SATURDAY WHEN THE ECMWF BRINGS A SOUTHERN STREAM SHORTWAVE THROUGH THE AREA. KREIN && .AVIATION... //ORD AND MDW CONCERNS...UPDATED 16Z... * WINDS LIGHT AND SLOWING TURNING FROM NNW TO NNE BUT ORD ALREADY ON PLAN X SO NO PROBLEMS EXPECTED. * LOWER CIGS EXPECTED TO STAY OVER ON THE INDIANA SIDE OF THE LAKE TODAY. LENNING //DISCUSSION...UPDATED 12Z... A HIGH PRESSURE RIDGE REMAINS IN PLACE FROM WESTERN QUEBEC SOUTHWARD ACROSS RFD AND FROM THERE INTO CENTRAL AND SOUTHERN IL. THIS WILL CREEP SLOWLY EAST TODAY WITH CONTINUED NORTHEAST FLOW FROM LAKE MICHIGAN. SUCH A WIND COMPONENT WILL OFFER A FETCH OF MOISTURE AND INSTABILITY SUFFICIENT ENOUGH FOR CONTINUED LAKE EFFECT CLOUDS. THE CONVERGENCE AND FOCUS OF THESE CLOUDS SEEMS WELL-ESTABLISHED INTO NORTHWEST INDIANA. SOME SUBTLE SHIFTING OF THIS AXIS MAY OCCUR...BUT AT THIS POINT GIVEN ITS PLACEMENT IT APPEARS THAT EVEN ACCOUNTING FOR THAT...THE HEART OF ANY MVFR CIGS AND ISOLATED SHOWER ACTIVITY WOULD REMAIN EAST OF ORD AND MDW TODAY. IN ADDITION...AN UPPER LEVEL DISTURBANCE TRANSLATING SOUTHEAST ACROSS THE UPPER TO MID MISSISSIPPI RIVER VALLEY THIS MORNING WILL SPREAD SOME VIRGA/LIGHT SPOTTY PRECIP OVER THE AREA...NAMELY WEST AND SOUTH OF CHICAGO. THIS MAY EVEN INCLUDE SOME FLURRIES AT RFD EARLY THIS MORNING. AS FOR TONIGHT...THE LOW- LEVEL FLOW OFF OF LAKE MICHIGAN WILL VEER SOME...ALLOWING FOR THE LIKELIHOOD OF MVFR CIGS TO MOVE BACK INTO NORTHEAST IL. TIMING ON THIS COULD BE BE AS EARLY AS 02Z OR SO...BUT RIGHT NOW THINKING THE LATER ROUTE. THE CLOUD DEPTHS ARE SIMILAR TONIGHT AS TO WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN...SO AGAIN SOME SPRINKLES OR LIGHT SHOWERS THAT STRUGGLE TO MOVE VERY FAR INLAND ARE PROBABLE. THESE CLOUDS ARE LIKELY TO HANG IN THERE THROUGH THE MONDAY MORNING RUSH...THOUGH CONFIDENCE IS HIGH THEY WILL BE ABOVE 1500 FT...MORE TOWARD 2500-3500 FT. //ORD AND MDW CONFIDENCE...UPDATED 16Z... * HIGH CONFIDENCE FOR ALL ELEMENTS. LENNING //OUTLOOK FOR ORD/MDW FOR 00Z TUESDAY-12Z SUNDAY...UPDATED 12Z... MONDAY NIGHT...VFR. TUESDAY...SHRA LIKELY TUESDAY AFTERNOON WITH A CHC OTHERWISE DURING THE DAY AND NIGHT. CHC OF MVFR. WEDNESDAY-THURSDAY...VFR. FRIDAY...SLIGHT CHC OF -RA DURING THE NIGHT. SATURDAY...SLIGHT CHC OF -RA DURING THE DAY. MTF && .MARINE... 145 AM CST AFTER A WEEK STRAIGHT OF NORTHERLY WINDS AND HIGHER WAVES...QUIET WEATHER WILL PREVAIL INTO THE START OF THIS WEEK. WINDS MAY BE VARIABLE AT TIMES OVER THE LAKE BY LATER TONIGHT THROUGH MONDAY AS A HIGH PRESSURE RIDGE SLOWLY MOVES EAST OVER THE LAKE. WINDS WILL THEN TURN SOUTHERLY LATE MONDAY NIGHT INTO TUESDAY AHEAD OF A LOW MOVING QUICKLY SOUTHEAST ACROSS THE CANADIAN PRAIRIE PROVINCES. THIS ALREADY HAS A GOOD PRESSURE AND PRESSURE TENDENCY PATTERN SIGNAL TO RESULT IN 30 KT /OR POSSIBLY JUST HIGHER/ WINDS OVER THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THE LAKE AND WAVES BRIEFLY UP TOWARD 10 FT. AN ASSOCIATED COLD FRONT IS LIKELY TO MOVE THROUGH THE LAKE ON TUESDAY NIGHT...BUT THIS FRONT SHOULD BE SLOWING AND WEAKENING AS IT CROSSES THE LAKE. HIGH PRESSURE IS EXPECTED TO PREVAIL FOR A DAY OR TWO AFTER THIS TIME...BEFORE SOUTHERLY FLOW INTO NEXT WEEKEND. MTF && .LOT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... IL...NONE. IN...NONE. LM...NONE. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS GOODLAND KS
1038 PM MST MON NOV 5 2012 .SHORT TERM...(THIS EVENING THROUGH TUESDAY) ISSUED AT 112 PM MST MON NOV 5 2012 LATEST WATER VAPOR AND RUC ANALYSIS DEPICT AN UPPER LEVEL RIDGE OVER THE WEST COAST...A SHORT WAVE TROUGH OVER SOUTHWEST CANADA WITH HIGH CLOUDS AHEAD OF IT OVER MONTANA SOUTH INTO COLORADO AND KANSAS. ANOTHER SHORT WAVE TROUGH WAS LOCATED OVER EASTERN OKLAHOMA AND CONTINUES TO DEEPEN. AT THE SURFACE A WARM FRONT WAS IN PLACE ALONG THE KS/CO BORDER NORTH INTO FAR SOUTHWEST SOUTH DAKOTA THANKS TO THE DOWNSLOPE WINDS COMING OFF THE ROCKIES. TONIGHT A SHORT WAVE RIDGE IN BETWEEN THE TROUGH OVER CANADA AND THE ONE TO OUR SOUTHEAST WILL MOVE OVER THE AREA. AT THE SURFACE A TROUGH WILL MOVE IN AHEAD OF THE UPPER LEVEL RIDGE. WINDS WILL SHIFT WEST WITH THE TROUGH PASSAGE THEN TURN BACK NORTH BEHIND IT. WITH A DRY ENVIRONMENT IN PLACE THE TROUGH PASSAGE WILL BE DRY. .LONG TERM...(TUESDAY NIGHT THROUGH MONDAY) ISSUED AT 256 PM MST MON NOV 5 2012 FORECAST CONCERNS WILL BE THE AMOUNT OF WARMUP/FIRE WEATHER CONCERNS WEDNESDAY THROUGH FRIDAY FOLLOWED BY COLDER TEMPERATURES/CHANCE OF PRECIPITATION NEXT WEEKEND. SATELLITE SHOWING AN AMPLIFIED/AMPLIFYING AND ACTIVE FLOW FROM THE PACIFIC INTO THE WESTERN ATLANTIC. SYSTEMS TO NOTE...DEEPENING SOON TO BE STRONG SYSTEM DIGGING INTO THE EASTERN PORTION OF THE COUNTRY WITH VERY STRONG SYSTEM MOVING/DEVELOPING IN SOUTHERN CANADA AT THIS TIME. DRY AIR MASS CURRENTLY RESIDES OVER THE AREA. AT JET LEVEL...THE NAM FOLLOWED BY THE GFS WAS DOING THE BEST ON THE VERY STRONG THAT RUNS FROM THE GULF OF ALASKA AND ON THE WEST SIDE OF DEVELOPING EASTERN CONUS SYSTEM. AT MID LEVELS...THE GFS WAS DOING A LITTLE BETTER THAN EVERYTHING ELSE. THE SREF AND NAM WERE DOING BEST ON THE SURFACE WIND AND PRESSURE FIELD. THE NAM...GFS AND CANADIAN WERE DOING BEST AT THIS TIME ON THE LOW LEVEL THERMAL FIELD. TUESDAY NIGHT...LITTLE CLOUD COVER AND LIGHT WINDS...ESPECIALLY IN THE EAST...WILL ALLOW TEMPERATURES TO FALL BELOW GUIDANCE. MINS RECENTLY HAVE FALLING WELL BELOW NWP. WENT IN THAT DIRECTION AND CLOSER TO THE GEM 2 METER TEMPERATURES. WEDNESDAY/WEDNESDAY NIGHT...DURING THE DAY THE SURFACE RIDGE PULLS AWAY WITH A CHILLY START...ESPECIALLY IN THE EAST. NEWER NAM IS LESS AGGRESSIVE WITH THE DOWNSLOPE COMPONENT. HOWEVER...WILL HAVE PLENTY OF SUN AND WESTERLY FLOW ALOFT. KEPT TEMPERATURES ABOUT THE SAME EXCEPT WARMING THEM UP A TOUCH. THE WIND FIELD LOOKS TO BE A LITTLE LIGHT...ESPECIALLY IN THE EAST. AS TROUGH LINE PASSES THROUGH THE TEMPERATURES WILL DROP WITH THEM WARMING UP AS DOWNSLOPE WINDS INCREASE BEHIND THE TROUGH. SO WILL BE A LITTLE TRICKY. THURSDAY...MODELS ALL OVER THE PLACE ON BOUNDARY PLACEMENT AND TIMING AND RESULTING LOW LEVEL TEMPERATURES. CONSIDERING THE EXPECTED FLOW ALOFT...THE MODELS MAY BE RUSHING THINGS A LITTLE BIT. AT THIS TIME...DID A COMPROMISE BETWEEN THE WARMEST AND COOLEST TEMPERATURES BUT DEFINITELY COULD SEE IT BEING WARMER. THURSDAY NIGHT THROUGH MONDAY...MAJOR FEATURE OF INTEREST IS HOW THE DEVELOPING WESTERN TROUGH WILL AFFECT THE WEATHER. THE MODELS AND ENSEMBLES HAVE THE SAME GENERAL IDEA OF AN ELONGATED TROUGH WITH THE STRONGEST/BEST DYNAMICS MUCH FURTHER NORTH AND SPLITTING OFF THE WEAKER SOUTHERN END FURTHER SOUTH LEAVING OUR AREA IN THE MIDDLE. MODELS DO DIFFER ON THE SPEED OF THE TROUGH WITH MORE SUPPORT FOR A SLOWER ARRIVAL. TEMPERATURES THURSDAY NIGHT WILL BE RATHER TRICKY. COLD FRONT THAT IS EXPECTED TO MOVE THROUGH SOMETIME ON THURSDAY IS EXPECTED TO RETURN NORTH AS A WARM FRONT THURSDAY NIGHT INTO FRIDAY. MODEL IN GENERAL AGREEMENT ON FRIDAY WITH THE FRONT NEAR OR NORTH OF THE FORECAST AREA BY LATE IN THE DAY. OVER THE SOUTHERN HALF TO TWO THIRDS...MODELS AGREE ON VERY WARM 850 MB TEMPERATURES. WILL HAVE DEEP SOUTHWEST FLOW ALOFT. AT THIS TIME DO NOT EXPECT THICK CLOUD COVER. AS A RESULT OF THAT AND COLLABORATION...WARMED UP MAXES. THIS WARM UP STILL MAY NOT BE ENOUGH. FRIDAY NIGHT INTO SATURDAY THE FRONT COMES BACK SOUTH AS A COLD FRONT. SOME DISCREPANCY ON TIMING BUT THERE LOOKS TO BE A THICKENING CLOUD DECK AND DEVELOPING PRECIPITATION THROUGH THE DAY. SO LEFT THE INHERITED INIT ALONE. VERY COLD TEMPERATURES FOLLOWING ESPECIALLY FOR SATURDAY NIGHT INTO SUNDAY NIGHT. INIT GRIDS LOOK FINE BUT DID MAKE A MINOR ADJUSTMENT DOWN. SATURDAY...ESPECIALLY FROM THE AFTERNOON...INTO SUNDAY LOOKS TO BE OUR CHANCE FOR PRECIPITATION. ONLY CONCERN NOW IS IF THE SLOWER SOLUTIONS PREVAIL...THE PRECIPITATION COULD START LATER IN THE DAY ON SATURDAY AND CONTINUE THROUGH MORE OF SUNDAY. DESPITE THE BRUNT OF THE LIFT BEING FURTHER NORTH...RIGHT REAR QUADRANT OF JET...VERY STRONG PV ANOMALY...AND STRONG CO-LOCATED MESOSCALE FORCING LOCATED WITH FAVORABLE THETA-E LAPSE RATES...DO SUPPORT LIGHT PRECIPITATION OCCURRING. THINK WE WILL GET SOMETHING JUST NOT SURE HOW MUCH. AM CONCERNED AND WILL HAVE TO BE WATCHED CAREFULLY IN UPCOMING FORECASTS OF BANDED PRECIPITATION DEVELOPING OVER THE AREA. KEPT THE PHASE RAIN SATURDAY AFTERNOON AND SWITCHED IT OVER TO ALL SNOW SATURDAY NIGHT. DEPENDING ON HOW LONG THE PRECIPITATION LINGERS INTO SUNDAY...COULD BE ALL SNOW OR A RAIN AND SNOW MIXTURE. FOR THE PRECIPITATION KEPT WHAT THE INIT GRID PRODUCED. REMAINDER OF THE FORECAST IS DRY. && .AVIATION...(FOR THE 06Z TAFS THROUGH 06Z TUESDAY NIGHT) ISSUED AT 1034 PM MST MON NOV 5 2012 WINDS WILL SHIFT TO THE NORTHWEST OVERNIGHT AS A SURFACE TROUGH MOVES EAST. CONDITIONS WILL BE VFR AS A FEW MID LEVEL AND SCATTERED TO BROKEN MID LEVEL CLOUDS COTNINUE. WINDS WILL BECOME LIGHT AND VARIABLE AGAIN TUESDAY NIGHT AS HIGH PRESSURE SETTLES INTO THE AREA. && .FIRE WEATHER... ISSUED AT 256 PM MST MON NOV 5 2012 ON WEDNESDAY...RELATIVE HUMIDITIES WILL BECOME LOW. HOWEVER THE WIND FIELD LOOKS TO BE TOO LIGHT SO DO NOT EXPECT ANY FIRE WEATHER HIGHLIGHTS. ON FRIDAY...THIS DAY WILL HAVE TO BE WATCHED CAREFULLY. RELATIVE HUMIDITIES BE SOUTH OF THE WARM FRONT. WINDS WILL ALSO PICK UP IN THE SAME AREA. IF WARM FRONT IS FASTER MOVING NORTH AND THE WINDS END UP STRONGER...THERE MAY BE A NEED FOR A FIRE WEATHER HIGHLIGHT. && .GLD WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... KS...NONE. CO...NONE. NE...NONE. && $$ SHORT TERM...JTL LONG TERM...BULLER AVIATION...FS FIRE WEATHER...BULLER
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NWS LAKE CHARLES LA
1040 PM CST MON NOV 5 2012 .UPDATE... SCATTERED SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS CONTINUE OVER THE COASTAL WATERS...WITH ACTIVITY ENDED OVER LAND. HAVE GONE AHEAD AND CANCELLED WW 674...WITH WW 673 HAVING EXPIRED AT 9 PM. MADE SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO POPS/WX TO REFLECT CONVECTIVE TRENDS. DESPITE PASSAGE OF FRONTAL BOUNDARY THIS EVENING...WINDS REMAIN VERY LT ACRS THE AREA. BOTH 03Z RUC AND 00Z NAM SHOW THE POSSIBILITY OF FOG OVER ERN ZONES TONIGHT...AND GIVEN THE COMBINATION OF LT WINDS...CLEARING SKIES AND SFC MOISTURE...WENT AHEAD AND INCLUDED PATCHY FOG MAINLY FM POE TO LCH EASTWARD. FOR THE MARINE ZONES...ADDED EXERCISE CAUTION WITH NLY WINDS EXPECTED TO STRENGTHEN TO 15-20 KT TONIGHT. UPDATED PRODUCTS HAVE BEEN SENT. 24 && .PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 717 PM CST MON NOV 5 2012/ UPDATE... REMOVED OUR INTERIOR SE TX COUNTIES FM WATCH 673...WITH CONVECTION CONTINUING TO SHIFT SOUTH AND EAST. UPDATED GRIDS AND PRODUCTS. 24 PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 557 PM CST MON NOV 5 2012/ UPDATE... A QUICK UPDATE TO ADD SEVERE TSTM WATCH 674 IN EFFECT UNTIL 1 AM FOR SRN LA AND THE ADJACENT COASTAL WATERS. THIS IS IN ADDITION TO WATCH 673...RESULTING IN MOST OF THE AREA...EXCEPT FOR THE EXTREME NRN TIER OF LA PARISHES...UNDER A WATCH. SCT SEVERE TSTMS CONTINUE TO DEVELOP AND MOVE ACRS SRN LA...INCLUDING A RATHER POTENT STORM THAT JUST MOVED OVER THE OFFICE...DROPPING PEA TO QUARTER SIZE HAIL AND PRODUCING A WIND GUST TO 60 KT! 24 PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 430 PM CST MON NOV 5 2012/ DISCUSSION... LATEST UPPER AIR ANALYSIS/WATER VAPOR IMAGERY SHOWED A VIGOROUS MID/UPPER LOW DIVING SOUTHEAST INTO THE LOWER MS RIVER VALLEY...WITH A SECONDARY SHORTWAVE JUST ENTERING THE NORTHERN PLAINS. LATEST SFC ANALYSIS INDICATED CDFNT WAS JUST NORTH/WEST OF A SHREVEPORT LOUISIANA TO COLLEGE STATION TEXAS LINE...EXTENDING SOUTHWEST OF A SFC LOW OVER SOUTHWEST ARKANSAS. ISOLATED TO SCATTERED CONVECTION HAS DEVELOPED LATE THIS AFTERNOON AS ROBUST SYNOPTIC LIFT ACTS UPON THE MOIST UNSTABLE WEDGE IN PLACE OVER TE AREA. THIS ACTIVITY IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE INTO THE EVENING HOURS ALONG AND AHEAD OF THE SOUTHWARD MOVING FRONT. A SVR TSTM WATCH IS IN EFFECT FOR EAST TX AND SW LA UNTIL 9 PM...AND THIS LOOKS REASONABLE AS FCST SOUNDINGS ARE SUPPORTIVE OF A HAIL/WIND THREAT. THE CDFNT IS PROGGED TO REACH THE COAST BY EARLY/MID EVENING...AND CONTINUE SOUTHWARD THROUGH THE COASTAL WATERS AS THE UPPER LOW PIVOTS EAST THROUGH NORTHERN MS/AL. COOLER AND DRIER AIR IS EXPECTED IN THE WAKE OF THE FRONT...WITH LOW TEMPERATURES TUE MORNING A GOOD 10 DEGREES OR SO COOLER THAN THEY WERE TODAY. THE CAA IS FCST TO BECOME A BIT MORE NEUTRAL BY TOMORROW...AND WILL BE FURTHER OFFSET BY GOOD DIURNAL HEATING. A SECONDARY SURGE...OR REINFORCING FRONT...IS EXPECTED TO ACCOMPANY THE UPSTREAM SHORTWAVE TUESDAY NIGHT INTO WED...THOUGH IT WILL BE SOMETHING OF A GLANCING BLOW AS THE CORE OF COLDEST AIR WILL PASS TO OUR EAST. NO REAL CHANGES MADE TO THE EXTENDED FCST...AS GLOBAL MODELS CONCUR WITH THE NORTHWESTERLY FLOW ALOFT TRANSITIONING TO UPPER RIDGING THURSDAY...WHICH THEN GIVES WAY TO A DEEP AND STRENGTHENING LOW TO MID LEVEL SOUTHERLY FETCH INTO THE WEEKEND AS A LARGE UPPER TROF CARVES OUT OVER THE WESTERN CONUS. THEY CONTINUE TO DIFFER A BIT ON THE TIMING OF THE NEXT FRONT...WITH THE ECMWF A LITTLE SLOWER THAN THE GFS. HIGHEST RAIN CHANCES PEGGED FOR SUNDAY NIGHT INTO MONDAY TIME PERIOD STILL LOOK GOOD. MARINE... SCATTERED SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS ARE POSSIBLE THE REST OF THIS AFTERNOON INTO THIS EVENING AS A VIGOROUS UPPER LEVEL SYSTEM DIVES SOUTHEAST THROUGH THE LOWER MISSISSIPPI RIVER VALLEY. THIS SYSTEM WILL DRIVE A COLD FRONT THROUGH THE COASTAL WATERS TONIGHT...WITH GUSTY NORTH WINDS AND BUILDING SEAS EXPECTED AFTER MIDNIGHT IN ITS WAKE. AT THIS TIME...WITH THE SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH IN EFFECT...AND CONDITIONS LOOKING BORDERLINE BETWEEN SCEC AND SCA...I HAVE HELD OFF ON ANY MARINE HEADLINES OR ADVISORIES. WINDS AND SEAS WILL BEGIN SUBSIDE ON TUESDAY...BUT OFFSHORE FLOW WILL PREVAIL THROUGH WEDNESDAY NIGHT. SOUTHERLY WINDS ARE EXPECTED TO RETURN ON THURSDAY...AND GRADUALLY STRENGTHEN INTO THE WEEKEND. 13 && .PRELIMINARY POINT TEMPS/POPS... KLCH 52 69 47 73 / 30 10 0 0 KBPT 53 73 50 76 / 30 10 0 0 KAEX 48 67 44 70 / 20 10 0 0 KLFT 53 69 46 71 / 50 10 0 0 && .LCH WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... LA...NONE. TX...NONE. GM...SMALL CRAFT EXERCISE CAUTION UNTIL 10 AM CST TUESDAY FOR COASTAL WATERS FROM CAMERON LA TO HIGH ISLAND TX OUT 20 NM-COASTAL WATERS FROM INTRACOASTAL CITY TO CAMERON LA OUT 20 NM- COASTAL WATERS FROM LOWER ATCHAFALAYA RIVER TO INTRACOASTAL CITY LA OUT 20 NM-WATERS FROM INTRACOASTAL CITY TO CAMERON LA FROM 20 TO 60 NM-WATERS FROM CAMERON LA TO HIGH ISLAND TX FROM 20 TO 60 NM-WATERS FROM LOWER ATCHAFALAYA RIVER TO INTRACOASTAL CITY LA FROM 20 TO 60 NM. && $$
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NWS OMAHA/VALLEY NE
1135 PM CST MON NOV 5 2012 .DISCUSSION... STILL A SMALL CHANCE OF SPRINKLES MOVING THROUGH THE REGION... GENERALLY ALONG AND NORTH OF I80 TONIGHT. AMOUNTS STILL APPEAR TO BE VERY LIGHT WITH MOSTLY TRACE AMOUNTS. ALSO STILL LOOKS INCREASINGLY WINDY THROUGH THE DAY TUESDAY...WITH WIND SPEEDS NEAR ADVISORY CRITERIA IN NORTHEAST NEBRASKA. DEWALD && .AVIATION...06Z TAFS FOR KOMA...KLNK AND KOFK. MVFR CONDITIONS PERSIST AT KOMA...AND LIKELY WILL UNTIL 10-12Z BEFORE LOW CLOUDS SCATTER OUT. OTHERWISE...VFR CONDITIONS PREVAIL AT BOTH KLNK/KOFK. SOUTH SOUTHWEST WINDS AHEAD OF THE APPROACHING FRONT...SWITCHING TO NORTHWEST ONCE THE FRONT ARRIVES...ARRIVING AT KOFK BY 11Z...AND KOMA/KLNK BY 13-14Z. SUSTAINED WIND SPEEDS INCREASE TO 20 TO 25 KNOTS SUSTAINED...WITH GUSTS UP TO 30 TO 35 KNOTS...BUT SHOULD DIMINISH ONCE THE SUN GOES DOWN BY 07/00Z. DEWALD && .PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 633 PM CST MON NOV 5 2012/ DISCUSSION... TWEAKED THE FORECAST JUST SLIGHTLY TO BRING PRECIP CHANCES INTO NORTHEAST NEBRASKA A FEW HOURS EARLIER...BASED ON RADAR ECHOS MOVING OUT OF SOUTH DAKOTA AND NORTH CENTRAL NEBRASKA. ALSO TRIMMED THE BACK EDGE OF THE PRECIP JUST A BIT...AND BROUGHT IT JUST A LITTLE BIT FURTHER SOUTH. EITHER WAY...IT WILL LIKELY BE VERY VERY LIGHT...PERHAPS ONLY JUST TRACE AMOUNTS. ALSO TWEAKED THE WINDS UP A COUPLE OF KNOTS ON TUESDAY IN NORTHEAST NEBRASKA. WINDS MAY BE JUST SHY OF WIND ADVISORY CRITERIA IN NORTHEAST NEBRASKA AROUND 30 MPH SUSTAINED. DEWALD PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 318 PM CST MON NOV 5 2012/ SHORT TERM...TONIGHT THROUGH THURSDAY. MAIN FORECAST CONCERN IS SMALL CHANCE FOR SHOWERS IN OUR NORTHEAST OVERNIGHT. LATEST WATER VAPOR IMAGERY AND RAP 500MB ANALYSIS SHOW THE REGION IN NORTHWESTERLY FLOW ALOFT WITH SHORTWAVE ENERGY QUICKLY DROPPING THROUGH THE SOUTHERN CANADIAN PRAIRIE PROVINCES. ASSOCIATED SFC LOW PRESSURE AREA CONTINUES TO QUICKLY MOVE SOUTHEAST AHEAD OF THIS UPPER FEATURE WITH WIDESPREAD SHOWERS ACROSS NORTH DAKOTA. THESE FEATURES WILL CONTINUE THEIR SOUTHWARD PROGRESSION AND SHOULD BRUSH THE NORTHEASTERN COUNTIES OVERNIGHT...MAINLY AFTER 06Z. HAVE ADDED A SMALL CHANCE FOR SHOWERS AS MOISTURE PROFILES ARE SLOW TO SATURATE LOWER LEVELS. IN ADDITION...ASSOCIATED SFC COLD FRONT WILL PUSH THROUGH THE FORECAST AREA TUESDAY MORNING. GOOD MOMENTUM TRANSFER SHOULD ALLOW GUSTY CONDITIONS INTO TUESDAY AFTERNOON BEHIND THE FRONT. HIGH TEMPERATURES SHOULD ONLY TOP OUT IN THE LOWER 50S ACROSS THE NORTHEASTERN CWA WITH UPPER 50S IN THE SOUTHWEST. SFC HIGH PRESSURE QUICKLY BUILDS IN WEDNESDAY MORNING BRINGING CLEAR AND CALM CONDITIONS. A GRADUAL WARMING TREND WEDNESDAY INTO THURSDAY IS EXPECTED AS A WESTERN RIDGE BUILDS EAST OVER THE AREA AND RETURN FLOW DEVELOPS AROUND SFC HIGH PRESSURE. KERN LONG TERM...THURSDAY NIGHT THROUGH MONDAY. LOOKS LIKE SOME ACTIVE WEATHER FOR THE WEEKEND WITH BIG SWINGS IN TEMPERATURES. THE EC/GFS/GEFS/CANADIAN ARE ALL IN FAIRLY GOOD AGREEMENT...WITH SOME TYPICALLY TIMING AND STRENGTH DIFFERENCES. THE FORECAST AREA WILL BE IN THE WARM SECTOR THURSDAY NIGHT WITH AN INVERTED TROF SETTLING INTO NORTHEAST NEBRASKA. THE GULF IS OPEN WITH H85 FLOW FROM TEXAS THROUGH THE PLAINS WITH THE DRY SLOT HEADING ACROSS NORTH CENTRAL KANSAS BY 12Z FRIDAY. THE SURFACE LOW INITIALLY OVER THE CENTRAL ROCKIES TRACKS NORTHEAST ALONG THE FRONT AND BY 18Z SATURDAY IS CENTERED SOMEWHERE BETWEEN EASTERN SOUTH DAKOTA/EASTERN NEBRASKA (GFS/EC/GEFS) OR MINNESOTA (CANADIAN). THE BULK OF THE PRECIPITATION WILL INITIALLY BE AHEAD OF...NORTH...AND TO THE WEST OF THE FORECAST AREA. SATURDAY NIGHT LOOKS TO BE THE BEST CHANCE FOR PRECIPITATION...ALTHOUGH THERE WILL BE LIFT/WAA DURING THE DAY SATURDAY. THE GFS HAS A SURGE OF HIGHER DEWPOINTS NEAR THE MISSOURI RIVER AND THEN LIFTING NORTH AND SHIFTING QUICKLY EAST. THE EC IS SLOWER WITH THE DEEP MOISTURE AND HOLDS ON TO THE HIGH 10 TO 12DEG C H85 DEWPOINTS. COMBINED WITH THE LIFT WITH THIS DYNAMIC SYSTEM THESE DIFFERENCES ACCOUNT FOR THE DIFFERENCES IN RESULTANT QPF WITH HIGHER PRECIPITATION AMOUNTS WITH THE EC. TEMPERATURES FRIDAY AND SATURDAY WILL BE IN THE 60S AND 70S AND MUCH COLDER FOR SUNDAY AND MONDAY WITH HIGHS IN THE 30S AND 40S. FOR NOW HAVE SOME CHANCE POPS SATURDAY AFTERNOON AND LIKELY POPS SATURDAY NIGHT AND DEPENDING ON IF THE SYSTEM SLOWS DOWN...SOME POPS INTO SUNDAY. WITH INSTABILITY AHEAD OF THE FRONT WILL INCLUDE THUNDER. THERE COULD BE A MIX IN THE NORTHEAST AS COLDER AIR WORKS INTO THE SYSTEM IN NORTHEAST NEBRASKA. SHOULD THERE BE LINGERING PRECIPITATION SUNDAY...THERE COULD BE A MIX OR MINOR ACCUMULATIONS SUNDAY. ZAPOTOCNY && .OAX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... NE...NONE. IA...NONE. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION...UPDATED
NWS NORTH PLATTE NE
1124 PM CST MON NOV 5 2012 .UPDATE... .AVIATION... VFR IS EXPECTED ALL AREAS OVERNIGHT THROUGH TUESDAY EVENING. A COLD FRONT WILL MOVE THROUGH OVERNIGHT. WINDS ACROSS NCNTL NEB EAST OF HIGHWAY 83 INCREASE TO 32025G35KT TUESDAY MORNING. LIGHT RAIN SHOWERS HAVE DEVELOPED ALONG AND BEHIND THE FRONT THIS EVENING. VFR IS EXPECTED BENEATH THOSE RADAR RETURNS. && .PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 833 PM CST MON NOV 5 2012/ UPDATE... ISOLATED SHOWERS CONTINUE TO DEVELOP ACROSS WRN AND CNTL SD. IT LOOKS LIKE THERE IS ENOUGH MOISTURE ALOFT FOR SOME RAIN AT THE SFC BASED ON 00Z SOUNDINGS. OBSERVED STORM MOTION SHOULD CARRY THE LIGHT RAIN THRU NCNTL NEB OVERNIGHT. ALSO RAISED TEMPS A CATEGORY AS FAIRLY DENSE MID AND UPPER LEVEL CLOUDS SHOULD CONTINUE OVERNIGHT. PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 547 PM CST MON NOV 5 2012/ UPDATE... AVIATION... VFR IS EXPECTED MOST AREAS TONIGHT AND TUESDAY. A COLD FRONT WILL MOVE THROUGH TONIGHT WITH WINDS INCREASING AFTER 15Z TO 32025G35KT ACROSS NCNTL NEB EAST OF HIGHWAY 83. SPRINKLES HAVE DEVELOPED AHEAD OF THE FRONT THIS EVENING. VFR IS EXPECTED BENEATH THOSE RADAR RETURNS. ALSO...THE BANK OF MVFR CIGS ACROSS NCNTL NEB GETS SHOVED EAST AS THE COLD FRONT APPROACHES LATE TONIGHT...09Z- 12Z. NOTE THE RUC SUGGESTS SOME POTENTIAL FOR MVFR CIGS LATE TONIGHT WITH THE COLD FRONT. FOR NOW PLAN ON VFR. BEST GUESS ON MVFR CAN BE MADE AS THE FRONT GETS CLOSER THIS EVENING. PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 317 PM CST MON NOV 5 2012/ SYNOPSIS...ANALYSIS OF THE 19Z MSL DATA SHOWED A FRONTAL WAVE IN SOUTHERN SASKATCHEWAN. ASSOCIATED WITH THE SURFACE LOW...WATER VAPOR IMAGERY WAS SHOWING A POTENTIAL VORTICITY ANOMALY NEAR THE BOUNDARY BETWEEN EAST CENTRAL ALBERTA AND WEST CENTRAL SASKATCHEWAN. A SURFACE FRONT HAD MOVED OUT OF SOUTHERN ALBERTA AND SASKATCHEWAN INTO NORTHERN MONTANA. THERE WAS ALSO AN ABUNDANCE OF JETSTREAM-RELATED CIRRUS/CIRROSTRATUS STREAMING OVER THE MONTANA-WYOMING ROCKIES ON THE NORTHWEST FLOW. VISIBLE IMAGERY INDICATED SOME CUMULIFORM CLOUDINESS FROM CENTRAL TO SOUTHWEST NEBRASKA. SHORT TERM...A FRONT COMING OUT OF NORTHERN MONTANA WILL COME THROUGH NEBRASKA LATE TONIGHT TO EARLY TUESDAY AND BRING SOME PATCHY CLOUDINESS. THEN...RETURN FLOW WILL BRING THE FRONT BACK TOWARD THE EAST AGAIN TUESDAY NIGHT AND...WITH IT...SOME CLOUDINESS. TEMPERATURES TONIGHT WILL BE HELD TO THE MID TO UPPER 30S TONIGHT BY THE AREAS OF CLOUDINESS. WITH MORE SUNSHINE THAN TODAY AND BREEZIER CONDITIONS...TEMPERATURES TUESDAY WILL BE SOMEWHAT WARMER THAN TODAY. CLEARING SKY AND LIGHT WIND WILL LET TEMPERATURES FALL INTO THE 20S OVER THE AREA TUESDAY NIGHT. LONG TERM...A SIGNIFICANT LONG WAVE TROUGH IS STILL PROGGED TO PROGRESS EAST ACROSS THE THE PLAINS SATURDAY INTO SUNDAY. AHEAD OF THIS FEATURE...MILD WEATHER WILL CONTINUE...WITH HIGHS ABOVE NORMAL WEDNESDAY THROUGH FRIDAY. A DRASTIC CHANGE IN THE WEATHER WILL OCCUR SATURDAY...AS A STRONG COLD FRONT PLOWS SOUTHEAST ACROSS NEBRASKA. GUSTY NORTHWEST WINDS AND FALLING TEMPERATURES CAN BE EXPECTED BEHIND THE FRONT SATURDAY AFTERNOON...WITH LIGHT RAIN OR LIGHT SNOW DEVELOPING WITHIN AREA OF STRONG FRONTOGENESIS BEHIND THE FRONT. LIGHT SNOW WILL LINGER INTO SATURDAY NIGHT...AND SHOULD END BY SUNDAY MORNING AS HIGH PRESSURE BEGINS TO BUILD INTO THE AREA. IT IS STILL TOO EARLY TO KNOW EXACTLY HOW MUCH SNOW WILL ACCUMULATE...BUT ALL INDICATIONS ARE THAT AMOUNTS SHOULD BE LIGHT...WITH PERHAPS AN INCH OR TWO FALLING ACROSS NORTHWEST NEBRASKA. WILL CONTINUE TO MONITOR...AND UPDATE FORECASTS AS THE STORM SYSTEM GETS CLOSER. VERY CHILLY CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED SUNDAY...WITH MANY AREAS STRUGGLING TO REACH THE FREEZING MARK. SOME TEMPERATURE RECOVERY IS EXPECTED MONDAY AS THE COLDEST AIR MOVES EAST OF THE AREA. AVIATION... NO SIGNIFICANT RESTRICTIVE WEATHER IS EXPECTED TONIGHT THROUGH TUESDAY. CEILINGS...IF ANY...WILL BE AT OR ABOVE 5000 FEET AGL. WIND IS EXPECTED TO INCREASE TUESDAY. IN NORTH CENTRAL NEBRASKA...NEAR ONL...BUB...BBW AND ANW...THE WIND IS EXPECTED TO BE 310-330 INCREASING TO 20-23G26-30 BY 18Z. && .LBF WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...NONE. && $$ SHORT TERM/EXTENDED...MASEK AVIATION...CDC
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NWS LA CROSSE WI
1148 PM CST MON NOV 5 2012 .SHORT TERM... 928 PM CST MON NOV 5 2012 GOES WATER VAPOR IMAGERY UPSTREAM OVER SOUTHERN CANADA SHOWING TWO IMPULSES WITH A NICE SIGNAL OF DARKENING JUST WEST OF LAKE WINNIPEG AT 02Z. THIS DARKENING WAS ASSOCIATED WITH A RAP-ANALYZED TROPOPAUSE FOLD DOWN TO 600 MB. SOME ADDITIONAL DARKENING ASSOCIATED WITH THE INITIAL VORTICITY ADVECTION IN THE TROUGH IN ERN SD AS WELL. THIS LEAD TROUGH IS CAUSING SOME ELEVATED ECHO OVER MN/SD WITH VERY LITTLE PRECIPITATION BEING OBSERVED. THE LOCAL AREA WILL TAKE A DIRECT HIT FROM THE SECOND STRONG SHORTWAVE TROUGH NEAR LAKE WINNIPEG BASED ON FORECAST MODEL CONSENSUS. THIS HAS DEVELOPED A MORE N-S BAND OF ECHO ALONG THE ERN ND BORDER EXTENDING NORTH INTO MANITOBA WITH A FEW HUNDREDTHS OF PRECIPITATION PER HOUR BEING REPORTED. QG ANALYSIS TAKES THE LIFT FROM THESE DYNAMICS RIGHT ACROSS THE FORECAST AREA IN THE 06.00 AND 05.18 NAM...LATEST RAP FORECASTS...AND 05.18 GFS. HAVE INCREASED PRECIPITATION CHANCES TO 80 PERCENT IN MOST AREAS. SOME QUESTION ON THE PRECIPITATION TYPE AS THE CLOUDS HAVE HELD FIRM OVER SERN MN...AND SLIPPED A BIT EAST INTO NW WI. OTHERWISE...TEMPERATURES WERE REALLY COOLING IN MOST OF EXTREME NERN IA...SWRN AND CENTRAL WI UNDER CLEAR SKIES. ONCE THE CLOUD COMES OVER...EVEN THOUGH IT IS 8KFT...TEMPERATURES WARM RAPIDLY 3-4F. FOR CENTRAL WI INTO SWRN WI...WITH THICKER CLOUDS EXPECTED JUST PRIOR TO PRECIPITATION ONSET...TEMPERATURES AND WETBULB TEMPERATURES WOULD SEEM TO SUPPORT A BIT OF SNOW ACCUMULATION /IN ADDITION TO I-94/NORTHEAST ACCUM AREA FROM PREV FORECAST/. WITH WARM SOILS OF 40F OR MORE AT 2 INCHES...STILL THINK ACCUMULATION DIFFICULT. BUT...WHERE IT IS THE COLDEST TONIGHT WILL FAVOR SOME...GENERALLY 1/2 INCH OR LESS. 06.00Z NAM SNOW DEPTH...WHICH MODELS THE LAND SURFACE HEAT FLUXES...PLACED 0.3 INCHES OF SNOW ACCUM IN THAT REGION...RICHLAND/ERN VERNON COUNTY/MONROE AREA. AN OUTSIDE CHANCE OF VERY BRIEF FZRA IS POSSIBLE FOR ANY SITE REMAINING 32F OR BELOW...AND MAINLY JUST EAST OF THE MISS RIVER WHERE THE TOP OF THE INVERSION WOULD BE WARM ENOUGH TO MELT INCOMING ICE. HAVE NOT ADDED THIS TO THE FORECAST BUT WE WILL MONITOR AS IT APPROACHES LATER TONIGHT. IT MAY NEED A SPECIAL WEATHER STATEMENT. A CHANGE TO SNOW WOULD QUICKLY RESULT AS THE THERMAL PROFILE GOES TO THE WET-BULB NEAR 0C. FORECAST UPDATES ARE OUT. .LONG TERM...THURSDAY NIGHT THROUGH MONDAY 304 PM CST MON NOV 5 2012 AN ACTIVE PERIOD IS ON TAP FOR THE WEEKEND INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK AS BROAD UPPER LEVEL TROUGHING PROPAGATES EAST ACROSS THE ROCKIES ON INTO THE CENTRAL US AND GREAT LAKES REGION. THE QUESTION TO START THE EXTENDED PERIOD IS WITH HOW FAR SOUTH A COLD FRONT MAKES IT ON FRIDAY BEFORE IT STALLS OUT AND TRANSITIONS TO A WARM FRONT. THE 05.12Z ECMWF IS TRENDING TOWARD WHAT THE GFS HAS ADVERTISED THE PAST FEW DAYS WITH A MORE SOUTHERN SOLUTION. BY 00Z SATURDAY...THE FRONT WILL START NEAR A SURFACE LOW IN EASTERN COLORADO AND RUN EAST THROUGH NORTHWEST IOWA AND CENTRAL WISCONSIN. THE 05.12Z GFS SHOWS SOME PRECIPITATION DEVELOPING ALONG THIS FRONT FRIDAY NIGHT AS THE LOW LEVEL JET KICKS IN AND NOSES UP INTO THE REGION WHILE THE 05.12Z ECMWF/GEM KEEP IT DRY WITH THE FOCUS A BIT FURTHER NORTH. A LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM WILL THEN DEVELOP IN THE LEE OF THE ROCKIES ALONG THIS FRONT AND TRACK NORTHEAST ALONG THE FRONT AND DEEPEN INTO MINNESOTA ON SATURDAY/SATURDAY NIGHT WITH THE 05.12Z GFS/ECMWF IN DECENT AGREEMENT ON THIS SCENARIO. THIS TRACK WILL LEAD TO SATURDAY BEING THE WARMEST DAY OF THE WEEK WITH TEMPERATURES GETTING INTO THE 60S. AS A RESULT OF THIS RELATIVELY WARM AND MOIST AIR MASS GETTING IN...THERE APPEARS TO BE SOME WEAK INSTABILITY THAT DEVELOPS AHEAD OF THE FRONT SO THERE COULD BE A FEW THUNDERSTORMS THAT DEVELOP THOUGH TIMING DOES NOT LOOK FAVORABLE FOR ANYTHING SEVERE. THE FRONT THEN SLOWLY TRACKS TO THE EAST ON SUNDAY WITH PRECIPITATION LIKELY FORMING ALONG AND BEHIND IT. WITH STRONG LOW LEVEL COLD AIR ADVECTION BEHIND THE FRONT...IT APPEARS THAT TEMPERATURES WILL BE ABLE TO COOL ENOUGH FOR THE RAIN TO TRANSITION TO SNOW FOR A PERIOD. THEN...THERE IS THEN CONTINUED GOOD AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE 05.12Z GFS/ECMWF FOR THE BELLY OF THE MID LEVEL TROUGH TO BECOME NEGATIVELY TILTED ON MONDAY WITH A DEEPENING SURFACE LOW RUNNING UP THE COLD FRONT THROUGH CHICAGO. THERMAL PROFILES WOULD BE COLD ENOUGH FOR THE PRECIPITATION TYPE TO BE ALL SNOW...SO THE TRENDS WITH THIS SYSTEM WILL HAVE TO BE MONITORED SINCE THE TRACK WOULD DICTATE WHERE THE HEAVIEST SNOW WOULD FALL. RIGHT NOW...THE 05.12Z GFS IS FASTER WITH THE SURFACE LOW NEAR SOUTHERN LAKE MICHIGAN BY 18Z MONDAY WHILE THE 05.12Z ECMWF GETS IT THERE AROUND 6Z TUESDAY. && .AVIATION...THROUGH 06Z WEDNESDAY 1147 PM CST MON NOV 5 2012 HAVE ADJUSTED LATEST TAFS TO INCLUDE IFR CONDITIONS AT KRST FOR INCOMING WEATHER SYSTEM. THIS WEATHER SYSTEM IS PRODUCING PRECIPITATION ACROSS NWRN MN WITH ITS LEADING EDGE APPROACHING CENTRAL MN AT THIS TIME. CONFIDENCE IS HIGH ON PRECIPITATION AFFECTING BOTH SITES FOR 4-5 HOURS. WITH COLDER AIR IN PLACE AT KLSE...SNOW IS A POSSIBILITY...MIXED WITH RAIN. HAVE INCLUDED SNRA AT KLSE WITH MVFR CIGS/VSBYS. PRECIPITATION SHOULD BE PROGRESSIVE WITH IMPROVING CONDITIONS TO VFR OR HIGHER MVFR AS AFTERNOON PROGRESSES. A LARGE CLOUD SHIELD WILL THEN SPREAD IN FROM THE NORTH TUESDAY NIGHT WITH MVFR CONDITIONS EXPECTED AT BOTH SITES. && .ARX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... 304 PM CST MON NOV 5 2012 WI...NONE. MN...NONE. IA...NONE. && $$ SHORT TERM...BAUMGARDT LONG TERM...HALBACH AVIATION...BAUMGARDT
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS TALLAHASSEE FL
1007 AM EST Tue Nov 6 2012 .NEAR TERM [Through Tonight]... The 12z CONUS NAM/Regional RAP analysis depicted a highly amplified pattern across the country with the western half dominated by deep layer ridging, and a broad trough across the east. Embedded within the eastern U.S. trough were several disturbances, most notably the potent shortwave centered over the Southeast. It was this disturbance that initiated widespread rain and isolated thunderstorms overnight. As of 14z the shortwave had made enough eastward progress to push the surface front through the area. Thus, land areas across our CWA are rain free, with only isolated showers remaining well offshore. The main concern this morning has to do with timing the dissipation of fog that developed in the clear region between the passing front and advancing low ceilings, as well as timing the dissipation of the ceilings themselves. The current thinking is that the remaining fog will dissipate within the next hour, while the ceilings will slowly scatter through the morning, making little eastward progress. The trend in ceilings will have to be monitored closely as any prolonged ceilings could have a substantial impact on afternoon high temperatures. For now, expect a north to south temperature gradient with high in the lower 60s across southern GA and AL, up to near 70 degrees across coastal portions of North Florida. Overnight, the focus shifts back to the upper levels as another piece of energy dives south through the Mississippi Valley, then into the Southeast. There may be just enough moisture with this shortwave to generate some light showers overnight, more likely across AL and GA rather than FL. There may also be a fog/low ceiling mixture across AL and GA, possibly spilling into inland north Florida as well. Overnight lows are expected to fall into the lower to middle 40s area wide. && .SHORT TERM [Wednesday Through Thursday]... The axis of the upper trough will swing to our east on Thursday with deep layer ridging approaching the CWA from the west. Temps on Wednesday and Thursday will only climb to the mid to upper 60s. The coldest temps are forecast for Wednesday night where all inland areas should see upper 30s with mid 40s near the coast by daybreak Thursday. && .LONG TERM [Thursday Night through next Monday]... Deep layer ridging will continue to build in from the west and by late in the week temperatures are expected to moderate back to near/above normal levels. Dry conditions are expected through next weekend before rain chances increase ahead of a cold front early next week. && .AVIATION [Beginning 14Z Tuesday]... MVFR ceilings on the backside of a passing front will slowly scatter through the morning. Expect these ceilings to at least rise to VFR levels by around 18z. A low ceiling/fog mix is possible once again tomorrow morning, however, this threat will be looked at more closely when the latest data arrives before the next full TAF issuance. && .MARINE... Winds and seas will increase today behind a cold front that passed overnight. Cautionary level winds will develop today and continue into Thursday morning. Winds will subside below headline criteria from Thursday through Friday night. High pressure will strengthen northeast of the area by the weekend which will bring a return of cautionary level winds by Saturday afternoon. && .FIRE WEATHER... Showers early this morning, will exit the region to the east by midday with drier air moving in from the west. However, even with the drier airmass, lower temperatures will keep humidity values above critical levels. The next chance for red flag conditions will be late in the week as the airmass remains dry, and temperatures begin to warm. && .HYDROLOGY... The upcoming rainfall for tonight and Tuesday is not expected to be heavy enough to create flooding concerns, and there are no significant river rises expected over the next week across the area. && .PRELIMINARY POINT TEMPS/POPS... Tallahassee 70 44 67 39 68 / 10 10 0 0 0 Panama City 68 48 69 44 67 / 10 0 0 0 0 Dothan 64 43 66 39 67 / 10 0 0 0 0 Albany 63 40 65 39 67 / 10 10 0 0 0 Valdosta 67 41 64 39 66 / 20 10 0 0 0 Cross City 71 44 67 38 69 / 30 10 0 0 0 Apalachicola 69 46 68 42 66 / 10 0 0 0 0 && .TAE WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... FL...None. GA...None. AL...None. GM...None. && $$ NEAR TERM...Harrigan SHORT TERM...Harrigan/Barry LONG TERM...Camp AVIATION...Harrigan MARINE...Barry FIRE WEATHER...Camp HYDROLOGY...Barry
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS MARQUETTE MI
657 AM EST TUE NOV 6 2012 .SHORT TERM...(TODAY AND TONIGHT) ISSUED AT 518 AM EST TUE NOV 6 2012 WV IMAGERY AND RUC ANALYSIS INDICATED A MID/UPPER LEVEL RIDGE OVER THE WRN CONUS AND A TROUGH OVER THE EAST RESULTING IN NW FLOW FROM WRN CANADA THROUGH THE PLAINS. AN UPSTREAM SHORTWAVE TROUGH EXTENDING FROM NW MN INTO NW IA WAS DIVING TO THE SOUTHEAST. AT THE SFC...A TROUGH EXTENDED FROM LAKE WINNIPEG THROUGH WRN MN INTO ERN NEBRASKA. A BAND OF 290K-295K ISENTROPIC LIFT AHEAD OF THE TROUGH AND WEAK TO MODERATE 700-500 MB QVECTOR CONV SUPPORTED AN AREA OF PCPN FROM NE MN INTO NRN IA. THE STRONGER FORCING ASSOCIATED WITH THE SHORTWAVE REMAINED TO THE SOUTH OVER SRN MN. MOST OF THE PCPN WAS FALLING AS RAIN WITH -SN ON THE BACK EDGE OF THE PCPN OVER NE MN. IR LOOP SHOWED THAT MID CLOUDS HAD SPREAD ACROSS THE WEST HALF OF UPPER MI WHILE ANOTHER BAND OF CLOUDS OFF OF LAKE MI HAD EXPANDED OVER THE ERN CWA. TODAY...WITH THE STRONGER DYNAMICS ASSOCIATED WITH THE SHRTWV PASSING TO THE SW OF UPPER MI...MODELS HAVE TRENDED TOWARD SMALLER QPF AMOUNTS THROUGH THE AREA...ESPECIALLY OVER THE EAST AND WHERE DOWNSLOPE FLOW PREVAILS N CNTRL NEAR LAKE SUPERIOR. FCST CONTINUED TO UTILIZE NAM WET-BULB ZERO HEIGHTS IN DEFINING WARM LAYER FOR PCPN TYPE WITH MAINLY SNOW OVER THE HIGHER TERRAIN WEST AND RAIN ELSEWHERE. WITH QPF LESS THAN A TENTH OF AN INCH...SNOW AMOUNTS SHOULD ALSO AMOUNT TO LESS THAN AN INCH. WITH 850 MB TEMPS TO AROUND -5C AND NRN LAKE MI WATER TEMP NEAR 10C...HIGHER RES MODELS SUGGEST THAT INSTABILITY WILL BE GREAT ENOUGH TO SUPPORT A BAND OF PCPN OFF OF LAKE MI. THE BAND WOULD BE EXPECTED TO DEVELOP ACROSS THE ERN LAKE TO THROUGH BEAVER ISLAND INTO MACKINAC AND FAR SE LUCE COUNTY. AS THE DEEPER MOISTURE MOVES IN DURING THE AFTERNOON AND WINDS VEER FROM SW TO S THE BAND MAY SHIFT TO NEAR MANISTIQUE/GRAND MARAIS AND THEN TOWARD THE GARDEN PENINSULA AND CNTRL ALGER COUNTY TONIGHT. CONFIDENCE IN THESE DETAILS IS STILL LIMITED AND ONLY LIGHT PCPN AMOUNTS ARE EXPECTED. LOW LEVEL TEMP PROFILES SUGGEST THAT THE PCPN WOULD BE MAINLY RAIN. MODELS HAVE TRENDED TOWARD A SLOWER PROGRESSION WITH THE SFC TROUGH SOT THAT A SWITCH TO ONSHORE FLOW OVER THE WEST WILL BE DELAYED. HOWEVER...SOME LINGERING SNOW/RAIN SHOWERS MAY BE POSSIBLE NEAR THE TROUGH AXIS...ESPECIALLY DURING THE EVENING. 850 MB TEMPS NEAR -4C AND ONLY WEAK ONSHORE NW FLOW LATE TONIGHT WILL ONLY PROVIDE MARGINAL SUPPORT FOR LAKE ENHANCED PCPN. SO...ANY PCPN AMOUNTS WILL BE VERY LIGHT. .LONG TERM...(WEDNESDAY THROUGH MONDAY) ISSUED AT 518 AM EST TUE NOV 6 2012 BY 12Z WEDNESDAY THE 500MB WAVES WILL BE JOINING FORCES ACROSS THE OHIO VALLEY TO MID ATLANTIC STATES...WITH THE RIDGE OVER MUCH OF THE W HALF OF THE NATION. EXPECT THE RIDGE TO BUILDING BACK ACROSS THE UPPER GREAT LAKES ON WEDNESDAY...THANKS TO OUR NEXT SIGNIFICANT SYSTEM DROPPING FROM THE GULF OF AK TO THE PACIFIC NW. MOISTURE WILL BE ON THE DECREASE...WITH INVERSION HEIGHTS STEADILY LOWERING AOB 4-5KFT. THE 500MB RIDGE OVERHEAD WILL BECOME SUPPRESSED THURSDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH FRIDAY...WITH ZONAL FLOW...THANKS TO A SYSTEM SWINGING ACROSS E CANADA. EXPECT A WEAK COLD FRONT TO NEAR FROM THE W/NW FRIDAY IN BETWEEN THE SYSTEM OVER CANADA AND THE NEXT SYSTEM OF CONCERN ORGANIZING ACROSS THE WY/CO ROCKIES. THIS WILL DO LITTLE FOR US...OTHER THAN BRING CLOUDS TO THE REGION AND A FEW SHOWERS. THE COLD FRONT SHOULD PUSH NORTH IN THE FORM OF A WARM FRONT ON SATURDAY IN ADVANCE OF THE LOW PRESSURE ACROSS THE CENTRAL PLAINS STATES. BY 00Z SUNDAY THE WX MAP SHOULD SHOW THE ELONGATED SFC LOW STRETCHED FROM W MN TO KS...AND THE 500MB TROUGH TAKING UP THE W HALF OF THE NATION. ALONG WITH A WARM UP INTO THE LOW 50S ON INCREASED SOUTHERLY WINDS FOR THE WEEKEND THIS SYSTEM WILL LIKELY ALSO BRING WET WEATHER AND THUNDERSTORMS AS THE SFC LOW LIFTS INTO ONTARIO ON SUNDAY. KEPT THE SLIGHT CHANCE TS POTENTIAL FOR SATURDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH SUNDAY MORNING...DIMINISHING W TO E DURING THE AFTERNOON. KEPT NON-DIURNAL TEMPS FOR SUNDAY...WITH LOWERING VALUES W TO E DURING THE DAY AS COLDER AIR RUSHES IN. IF TIMING OF THE COLD FRONT STAYS CONSISTENT...WILL LIKELY NEED TO INCREASE TEMPS A BIT OVER THE DOWNSLOPE AREAS NEAR LAKE SUPERIOR E OF MQT /GIVEN STEADY 20KT S FLOW AT THE SFC AND 850MB WINDS OF 45-50KTS/. TEMPS SHOULD BE COLD ENOUGH FOR SNOW OVER FAR W UPPER MI BY 00Z MONDAY. HOWEVER...THE BULK OF THE MOISTURE WILL BE E BY THEN. THE 00Z GFS OFF OF BUFKIT WAS INDICATING THE POTENTIAL FOR 4-5IN AT IWD...AND AROUND 2.5IN AT CMX THROUGH 12Z TUESDAY. STILL...SOME OF THE COLDEST AIR OF THE YEAR SLIDING OVER LAKE SUPERIOR AND FAVORABLE WINDS SHOULD BE ENOUGH TO SUSTAIN LAKE EFFECT SNOW AS THE 500MB TROUGH SLOWLY MOVES ACROSS AND E OF THE AREA. THE 2-5IN MAY END UP BEING A LOW ESTIMATE IF THE 06/00Z GFS IS CORRECT...WITH A SECONDARY LOW DEVELOPING NEAR AK SUNDAY NIGHT AND PUSHING UP ALONG THE EXITING COLD FRONT. && .AVIATION...(FOR THE 12Z TAFS THROUGH 12Z WEDNESDAY MORNING) ISSUED AT 656 AM EST TUE NOV 6 2012 EXPECTED VFR CONDITIONS ASSOCIATED WITH WEDGE OF DRY AIR OVER CENTRAL UPR MI/WI TO GIVE WAY TO MVFR CIGS W-E THIS MORNING AS STRENGTHENING SRLY FLOW BTWN DEPARTING HIGH PRES IN SE ONTARIO AND A LOW PRES TROUGH MOVING INTO MN DRAWS MOISTER AIR TO THE N. THERE MAY BE SOME LIGHT -RASN AS WELL...BUT PASSAGE OF MORE INTENSE DYNAMIC FORCING TO THE SOUTH WILL LIMIT INTENSITY AND ANY VSBY RESTRICTION. AS MOISTER AIR CONTINUES TO MOVE TO THE N...EXPECT IFR CONDITIONS TO DEVELOP AT SAW WITH FAVORABLE UPSLOPE SSE WIND. THIS DOWNSLOPE WIND WILL REDUCE THE THREAT OF IFR CONDITIONS AT CMX/IWD...BUT ARRIVAL OF LO PRES TROF/ WEAKER PRES GRADIENT AT IWD LATE IN THE TAF PERIOD SHOULD ALLOW FOR CONDITIONS TO DETERIORATE TO IFR THERE AS WELL. && .MARINE...(FOR THE 4 AM LAKE SUPERIOR FORECAST ISSUANCE) ISSUED AT 518 AM EST TUE NOV 6 2012 SOUTH WINDS OF 15 TO 25 KNOTS AHEAD OF A TROUGH WILL DIMINISH FROM WEST TO EAST THIS AFTERNOON AND TONIGHT. WINDS WILL THEN BECOME LIGHT AS HIGH PRES BUILDS INTO THE AREA WEDNESDAY. SW WINDS WILL AGAIN INCREASE INTO THE 15 TO 25 KNOT RANGE THURSDAY AS ANOTHER TROUGH APPROACHES THE REGION. GALES MAY BE POSSIBLE BY LATE SATURDAY INTO SUNDAY NIGHT AS A LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM LIFTS NORTHEAST THROUGH MINNESOTA INTO NORTHWEST ONTARIO. HOWEVER...THERE IS STILL CONSIDERABLE UNCERTAINTY WITH THE TRACK AND STRENGTH OF THE THIS SYSTEM. && .MQT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... UPPER MICHIGAN... NONE. LAKE SUPERIOR... NONE. LAKE MICHIGAN... NONE. && $$ SHORT TERM...JLB LONG TERM...KF AVIATION...JLB MARINE...JLB
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS MARQUETTE MI
523 AM EST TUE NOV 6 2012 .SHORT TERM...(TODAY AND TONIGHT) ISSUED AT 518 AM EST TUE NOV 6 2012 WV IMAGERY AND RUC ANALYSIS INDICATED A MID/UPPER LEVEL RIDGE OVER THE WRN CONUS AND A TROUGH OVER THE EAST RESULTING IN NW FLOW FROM WRN CANADA THROUGH THE PLAINS. AN UPSTREAM SHORTWAVE TROUGH EXTENDING FROM NW MN INTO NW IA WAS DIVING TO THE SOUTHEAST. AT THE SFC...A TROUGH EXTENDED FROM LAKE WINNIPEG THROUGH WRN MN INTO ERN NEBRASKA. A BAND OF 290K-295K ISENTROPIC LIFT AHEAD OF THE TROUGH AND WEAK TO MODERATE 700-500 MB QVECTOR CONV SUPPORTED AN AREA OF PCPN FROM NE MN INTO NRN IA. THE STRONGER FORCING ASSOCIATED WITH THE SHORTWAVE REMAINED TO THE SOUTH OVER SRN MN. MOST OF THE PCPN WAS FALLING AS RAIN WITH -SN ON THE BACK EDGE OF THE PCPN OVER NE MN. IR LOOP SHOWED THAT MID CLOUDS HAD SPREAD ACROSS THE WEST HALF OF UPPER MI WHILE ANOTHER BAND OF CLOUDS OFF OF LAKE MI HAD EXPANDED OVER THE ERN CWA. TODAY...WITH THE STRONGER DYNAMICS ASSOCIATED WITH THE SHRTWV PASSING TO THE SW OF UPPER MI...MODELS HAVE TRENDED TOWARD SMALLER QPF AMOUNTS THROUGH THE AREA...ESPECIALLY OVER THE EAST AND WHERE DOWNSLOPE FLOW PREVAILS N CNTRL NEAR LAKE SUPERIOR. FCST CONTINUED TO UTILIZE NAM WET-BULB ZERO HEIGHTS IN DEFINING WARM LAYER FOR PCPN TYPE WITH MAINLY SNOW OVER THE HIGHER TERRAIN WEST AND RAIN ELSEWHERE. WITH QPF LESS THAN A TENTH OF AN INCH...SNOW AMOUNTS SHOULD ALSO AMOUNT TO LESS THAN AN INCH. WITH 850 MB TEMPS TO AROUND -5C AND NRN LAKE MI WATER TEMP NEAR 10C...HIGHER RES MODELS SUGGEST THAT INSTABILITY WILL BE GREAT ENOUGH TO SUPPORT A BAND OF PCPN OFF OF LAKE MI. THE BAND WOULD BE EXPECTED TO DEVELOP ACROSS THE ERN LAKE TO THROUGH BEAVER ISLAND INTO MACKINAC AND FAR SE LUCE COUNTY. AS THE DEEPER MOISTURE MOVES IN DURING THE AFTERNOON AND WINDS VEER FROM SW TO S THE BAND MAY SHIFT TO NEAR MANISTIQUE/GRAND MARAIS AND THEN TOWARD THE GARDEN PENINSULA AND CNTRL ALGER COUNTY TONIGHT. CONFIDENCE IN THESE DETAILS IS STILL LIMITED AND ONLY LIGHT PCPN AMOUNTS ARE EXPECTED. LOW LEVEL TEMP PROFILES SUGGEST THAT THE PCPN WOULD BE MAINLY RAIN. MODELS HAVE TRENDED TOWARD A SLOWER PROGRESSION WITH THE SFC TROUGH SOT THAT A SWITCH TO ONSHORE FLOW OVER THE WEST WILL BE DELAYED. HOWEVER...SOME LINGERING SNOW/RAIN SHOWERS MAY BE POSSIBLE NEAR THE TROUGH AXIS...ESPECIALLY DURING THE EVENING. 850 MB TEMPS NEAR -4C AND ONLY WEAK ONSHORE NW FLOW LATE TONIGHT WILL ONLY PROVIDE MARGINAL SUPPORT FOR LAKE ENHANCED PCPN. SO...ANY PCPN AMOUNTS WILL BE VERY LIGHT. .LONG TERM...(WEDNESDAY THROUGH MONDAY) ISSUED AT 518 AM EST TUE NOV 6 2012 BY 12Z WEDNESDAY THE 500MB WAVES WILL BE JOINING FORCES ACROSS THE OHIO VALLEY TO MID ATLANTIC STATES...WITH THE RIDGE OVER MUCH OF THE W HALF OF THE NATION. EXPECT THE RIDGE TO BUILDING BACK ACROSS THE UPPER GREAT LAKES ON WEDNESDAY...THANKS TO OUR NEXT SIGNIFICANT SYSTEM DROPPING FROM THE GULF OF AK TO THE PACIFIC NW. MOISTURE WILL BE ON THE DECREASE...WITH INVERSION HEIGHTS STEADILY LOWERING AOB 4-5KFT. THE 500MB RIDGE OVERHEAD WILL BECOME SUPPRESSED THURSDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH FRIDAY...WITH ZONAL FLOW...THANKS TO A SYSTEM SWINGING ACROSS E CANADA. EXPECT A WEAK COLD FRONT TO NEAR FROM THE W/NW FRIDAY IN BETWEEN THE SYSTEM OVER CANADA AND THE NEXT SYSTEM OF CONCERN ORGANIZING ACROSS THE WY/CO ROCKIES. THIS WILL DO LITTLE FOR US...OTHER THAN BRING CLOUDS TO THE REGION AND A FEW SHOWERS. THE COLD FRONT SHOULD PUSH NORTH IN THE FORM OF A WARM FRONT ON SATURDAY IN ADVANCE OF THE LOW PRESSURE ACROSS THE CENTRAL PLAINS STATES. BY 00Z SUNDAY THE WX MAP SHOULD SHOW THE ELONGATED SFC LOW STRETCHED FROM W MN TO KS...AND THE 500MB TROUGH TAKING UP THE W HALF OF THE NATION. ALONG WITH A WARM UP INTO THE LOW 50S ON INCREASED SOUTHERLY WINDS FOR THE WEEKEND THIS SYSTEM WILL LIKELY ALSO BRING WET WEATHER AND THUNDERSTORMS AS THE SFC LOW LIFTS INTO ONTARIO ON SUNDAY. KEPT THE SLIGHT CHANCE TS POTENTIAL FOR SATURDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH SUNDAY MORNING...DIMINISHING W TO E DURING THE AFTERNOON. KEPT NON-DIURNAL TEMPS FOR SUNDAY...WITH LOWERING VALUES W TO E DURING THE DAY AS COLDER AIR RUSHES IN. IF TIMING OF THE COLD FRONT STAYS CONSISTENT...WILL LIKELY NEED TO INCREASE TEMPS A BIT OVER THE DOWNSLOPE AREAS NEAR LAKE SUPERIOR E OF MQT /GIVEN STEADY 20KT S FLOW AT THE SFC AND 850MB WINDS OF 45-50KTS/. TEMPS SHOULD BE COLD ENOUGH FOR SNOW OVER FAR W UPPER MI BY 00Z MONDAY. HOWEVER...THE BULK OF THE MOISTURE WILL BE E BY THEN. THE 00Z GFS OFF OF BUFKIT WAS INDICATING THE POTENTIAL FOR 4-5IN AT IWD...AND AROUND 2.5IN AT CMX THROUGH 12Z TUESDAY. STILL...SOME OF THE COLDEST AIR OF THE YEAR SLIDING OVER LAKE SUPERIOR AND FAVORABLE WINDS SHOULD BE ENOUGH TO SUSTAIN LAKE EFFECT SNOW AS THE 500MB TROUGH SLOWLY MOVES ACROSS AND E OF THE AREA. THE 2-5IN MAY END UP BEING A LOW ESTIMATE IF THE 06/00Z GFS IS CORRECT...WITH A SECONDARY LOW DEVELOPING NEAR AK SUNDAY NIGHT AND PUSHING UP ALONG THE EXITING COLD FRONT. && .AVIATION...(FOR THE 00Z TAFS THROUGH 00Z TUESDAY EVENING) ISSUED AT 617 PM EST MON NOV 5 2012 WITH EXPECTED WSHFT TO THE SSW THIS EVNG BTWN DEPARTING HI PRES IN SE ONTARIO AND APRCHG LO PRES TROF FM THE PLAINS...EXPECT AREA OF DRY AIR/MOCLR SKIES OVER MUCH OF WI TO MOVE IN AND RESULT IN PREDOMINANT VFR CONDITIONS MUCH OF TNGT. THE BEST CHC FOR THE MVFR CIGS TO LINGER WL BE AT SAW...WHERE AREA OF SC NEAR THE LK MI SHORE IN WI TO IMT MIGHT HOLD IN THRU THE NGT. MORE LO CLDS WL THEN ARRIVE W-E LATER TNGT IN ADVANCE OF LO PRES TROF. ALTHOUGH THE CIGS WL BE INITIALLY VFR PER UPSTREAM OBS...LOOK FOR MVFR CONDITIONS TO PREDOMINATE LATE TNGT THRU TUE AS STRENGTHENING SLY FLOW ADVECTS MORE LLVL MSTR INTO THE AREA. THIS STRENGTHENING FLOW MIGHT CAUSE MARGINAL LLWS AT IWD LATE TNGT/EARLY TUE. && .MARINE...(FOR THE 4 AM LAKE SUPERIOR FORECAST ISSUANCE) ISSUED AT 518 AM EST TUE NOV 6 2012 SOUTH WINDS OF 15 TO 25 KNOTS AHEAD OF A TROUGH WILL DIMINISH FROM WEST TO EAST THIS AFTERNOON AND TONIGHT. WINDS WILL THEN BECOME LIGHT AS HIGH PRES BUILDS INTO THE AREA WEDNESDAY. SW WINDS WILL AGAIN INCREASE INTO THE 15 TO 25 KNOT RANGE THURSDAY AS ANOTHER TROUGH APPROACHES THE REGION. GALES MAY BE POSSIBLE BY LATE SATURDAY INTO SUNDAY NIGHT AS A LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM LIFTS NORTHEAST THROUGH MINNESOTA INTO NORTHWEST ONTARIO. HOWEVER...THERE IS STILL CONSIDERABLE UNCERTAINTY WITH THE TRACK AND STRENGTH OF THE THIS SYSTEM. && .MQT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... UPPER MICHIGAN... NONE. LAKE SUPERIOR... NONE. LAKE MICHIGAN... NONE. && $$ SHORT TERM...JLB LONG TERM...KF AVIATION...KC MARINE...JLB
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS NEWPORT/MOREHEAD CITY NC
944 AM EST TUE NOV 6 2012 .SYNOPSIS... HIGH PRESSURE WILL EXTEND OVER THE AREA FROM THE NORTH TODAY. STRONG LOW PRESSURE IS FORECAST TO DEVELOP OFF THE SOUTHEAST COAST THIS AFTERNOON AND MOVE OFF OF THE NORTH CAROLINA COAST TONIGHT. THE LOW WILL RAPIDLY INTENSIFY AS IT MOVES NORTHEAST OF THE AREA WEDNESDAY INTO THURSDAY. HIGH PRESSURE WILL BUILD IN FROM THE WEST FRIDAY AND SATURDAY. && .NEAR TERM /UNTIL 6 PM THIS EVENING/... AS OF 935 AM TUESDAY...SURFACE LOW PRESSURE CONSOLIDATING WELL EAST OF THE SOUTH CAROLINA COAST...AS CLOSED LOW DROPS WELL INTO THE DEEP SOUTH HELPING TO STRENGTHEN TO LOW OFFSHORE. PRECIPITATION SHIELD CONTINUES TO MOVE UP THE COAST WITH LIGHT RAIN ARRIVING DURING THE AFTERNOON HOURS. THE NAM12 AND GFS SEEMS TO HAVE A MUCH BETTER FEEL TO THE PRECIPITATION FIELD AS THE LATEST RAP SHOWS NO PRECIPITATION ON LAND THROUGH THE NEXT 18 HOURS. HAVE MADE ONLY MINOR TWEAKS TO THE FORECAST AT THIS TIME. && .SHORT TERM /6 PM THIS EVENING THROUGH 6 AM WEDNESDAY/... AS OF 330 AM TUESDAY...LOW PRES WILL INTENSIFY AS IT MOVES OFFSHORE OF OUTER BANKS OVERNIGHT WITH PCPN SHIELD AFFECTING MOST OF AREA...BUT MAINLY ALONG AND E OF HWY 17. ADJUSTED QPF TO REFLECT AMOUNTS OF 0.50 TO 1 INCH NEAR COAST. WITH MODELS TRENDING TO SLIGHTLY FASTER AND WEAKER SYSTEM...EXPECT WINDS TO REMAIN BELOW ADVISORY CRITERIA AT THIS TIME. MOS GDNC BLEND IN DECENT AGREEMENT WITH PREVIOUS FCST MIN TEMPS...UPR 30S INLAND TO UPR 40S OBX. && .LONG TERM /WEDNESDAY THROUGH MONDAY/... AS OF 330 AM TUE...HAVE USED THE ECMWF FOR THE EXTENDED FORECAST AS IT MATCHES UP WELL WITH HPC`S SURFACE DEPICTION OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL DAYS. STRONG COASTAL LOW WILL BE MOVING NORTHWARD DURING THE DAY AWAY FROM THE NORTH COAST. HIGHS WON`T MAKE IT OUT OF THE MID TO UPPER 50S WITH A BREEZY NORTH NORTHWEST WRAPAROUND FLOW UNDER CLOUDY SKIES. LIGHT RAIN WILL SLOWLY TAPER OFF FROM THE SOUTHWEST DURING THE DAY. HOWEVER OVER THE NORTHERN OUTER BANKS LIKELY POPS WILL CONTINUE THROUGH THE DAY. A SLIGHT CHANCE OF RAIN WILL LINGER IN THE EVENING OVER THE NORTHEAST COUNTIES AND ALONG THE OUTER BANKS AND SOUNDS. ALL RAIN WILL END SHORTLY AFTER MIDNIGHT AS THE LOW MOVES FURTHER AWAY AND DRIER AIR BEGINS TO WORK IN. DRY AND WARMER WEATHER IN STORE FOR THIS WEEKEND WITH RIDGING SURFACE AND ALOFT. && .AVIATION /15Z TUESDAY THROUGH SATURDAY/... SHORT TERM /THROUGH 12Z WEDNESDAY/... AS 630 AM TUESDAY...VFR CONDITIONS EXPECTED TO PREVAIL THROUGH THIS AFTN WITH INCREASING AND THICKENING CLOUD COVER DURING THE DAY. MVFR CIGS AND VSBYS LIKELY THIS EVENING WITH RAIN DEVELOPING. SOME IFR CONDITIONS PSBL NEAR COAST WITH HEAVIER PCPN THREAT. LONG TERM /WED THROUGH SAT/ AS OF 330 AM TUE...SCATTERED SHOWERS WILL SLOWLY TAPER OFF FROM THE SOUTHWEST DURING THE DAY WEDNESDAY AS LOW PRESSURE OFF THE NORTH COAST MOVES AWAY. NORTH NORTHWEST WINDS WILL START OUT AT 15-20 KNOTS THEN SLOWLY DIMINISH TO 10-15 IN THE AFTERNOON. DRY CONDITIONS AND LIGHT WINDS EXPECTED BEGINNING WEDNESDAY NIGHT AND CONTINUING INTO THE WEEKEND WITH HIGH PRESSURE AT THE SURFACE AND ALOFT BUILDING IN FROM THE WEST. && .MARINE... SHORT TERM /THROUGH TONIGHT/... AS OF 940 AM TUESDAY...WINDS SHOULD RAMP UP OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL HOURS AS LOW PRESSURE OFFSHORE SLOWLY INTENSIFIES AS UPPER ENERGY DIVES INTO THE DEEP SOUTH. WINDS ALREADY GUSTING INTO THE LOWER 20S OVER THE PAMLICO SOUND AND AT THE BUOY OFF OF OREGON INLET. HAVE MADE SOME MINOR ADJUSTMENTS TO THE MARINE FORECAST BUT OVERALL ADVISORIES WILL REMAIN THE SAME. LONG TERM /WED THROUGH SAT/ AS OF 330 AM TUE...ECMWF BETTER THAN THE GFS OR NAM WHEN MATCHED UP WITH HPC SURFACE GRAPHICS...SO HAVE USED THE ECMWF AS THE BASIS FOR THE WIND FORECAST. GALES/SMALL CRAFT CONDITIONS WILL BE ONGOING WEDNESDAY. WAVE HEIGHTS WILL PEAK IN THE WATERS NORTH OF CAPE HATTERAS WEDNESDAY AND WEDNESDAY EVENING AT AROUND 9-11 FEET. GRADUAL IMPROVEMENT SEEN GOING INTO THURSDAY AND FRIDAY WITH CONDITIONS IMPROVING FROM SOUTH TO NORTH AS HIGH PRESSURE AT THE SURFACE AND ALOFT BUILDS IN FROM THE WEST RESULTING IN LIGHT WINDS AND SEAS. && .MHX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... NC...NONE. MARINE...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY FROM 1 PM THIS AFTERNOON TO 1 PM EST THURSDAY FOR AMZ135. SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY FROM 4 PM THIS AFTERNOON TO 7 AM EST THURSDAY FOR AMZ130. GALE WARNING FROM 1 AM WEDNESDAY TO 1 AM EST THURSDAY FOR AMZ150-152-154. SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY FROM 1 PM THIS AFTERNOON TO 4 PM EST THURSDAY FOR AMZ156-158. && $$ SYNOPSIS...JBM NEAR TERM...CTC SHORT TERM...JBM LONG TERM...HSA AVIATION...JBM/HSA MARINE...JBM/CTC/HSA
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS TALLAHASSEE FL
214 PM EST Tue Nov 6 2012 .NEAR TERM [Through Tonight]... The 18z CONUS NAM/Regional RAP analysis continued to depict a highly amplified pattern across the country with the western half dominated by deep layer ridging, and a broad trough across the east. Embedded within the eastern U.S. trough were several disturbances, most notably the potent shortwave moving out of the Southeast into the Mid-Atlantic. This disturbance is forecast to be responsible for the Nor`easter which is likely to impact the Northeast beginning tomorrow. Further upstream, two more impulses are noted, one in the Middle Mississippi Valley, and another in the Upper Valley. These will impact (minimally) our region both tonight and tomorrow. Wrap around moisture from the surface feature generated by last nights upper level disturbance, combined with drying mid-levels are responsible for the low clouds being experienced mainly across our SE AL and SW GA counties. In many locations under the solid cloud deck, temperatures have failed to reach the 60s. The clouds will continue to scatter through the afternoon and allow more-and-more sunlight to help warm things up. Updated afternoon highs to show near 60 degrees in these locations, up to the lower 70s across portions of south central Georgia and north Florida. Overnight, the focus shifts back to the upper levels as the aforementioned energy over the Mississippi Valley dives into the Southeast. There may be just enough moisture with this shortwave to generate some light showers overnight, more likely across AL and GA rather than FL. There may also be a fog/low ceiling mixture across AL and GA, possibly spilling into inland north Florida as well. Overnight lows are expected to fall into the lower to middle 40s area wide. && .SHORT TERM [Wednesday Through Friday]... The 500 mb height pattern will change quickly from Wednesday to Friday as a broad, fairly deep trough over the Southeast (on Wednesday) gets replaced by a deep layer ridge by Friday. It appears there will be one last potent short wave rounding the base of this broader trough Wednesday afternoon and evening. Like its predecessors, this upper level disturbance will be rather strong, but all of the latest NWP guidance indicates a lack of deep layer moisture. There is an old saying that if the dynamics are there, the moisture will be too, meaning that vigorous systems like this can find ways to "squeeze" seemingly small amounts of moisture out of the atmosphere, so we added a slight PoP to our forecast for our GA zones. Once this disturbance passes by, there will be fair weather. Temperatures will be seasonally cool Wednesday through Friday morning with highs in the mid to upper 60s, and lows in the lower 40s inland (away from the cities) and upper 40s at the beaches. Highs Friday afternoon will return to the mid 70s. && .LONG TERM [Friday Night through Tuesday]... Deep layer ridging will the dominant weather feature this weekend into early next week, with fair weather. High temperatures will be above average (mid to upper 70s). Lows will begin the weekend a bit below average (lower to mid 40s inland), then warm to above average by Monday and Tuesday (mid 50s). A cold front will move east across the region Monday night and Tuesday, bringing with it a chance of rain. && .AVIATION [Beginning 19Z Tuesday]... Expect cloud cover to decrease for KECP and KTLH throughout the rest of today as dry air and mixing help thin out the cloud cover moving in from the Northwest. While sites like KABY and KDHN will continue to see BKN to SCT conditions with lower ceilings. For overnight expect a mix of light fog and low ceilings to effect most sites except KECP. This is due to the incoming shortwave in northern Georgia sending some cloud cover and moisture into our CWA. By 13Z most sites will clear out to VFR. && .MARINE... Conditions will be slightly below "Exercise caution" tonight, then pick up to near caution levels Wednesday or Wednesday night. Conditions will improve quickly Thursday afternoon. && .FIRE WEATHER... Although we will be relatively dry over the next couple of days, relative humidity values will likely be high enough to quell the need for any advisories. However, once deep layer ridging takes hold by Friday, there will likely be fire weather concerns that will need to be addressed. && .HYDROLOGY... The upcoming rainfall for tonight and Tuesday is not expected to be heavy enough to create flooding concerns, and there are no significant river rises expected over the next week across the area. && .PRELIMINARY POINT TEMPS/POPS... Tallahassee 43 67 41 67 40 / 10 0 0 0 0 Panama City 49 68 46 67 47 / 10 0 0 0 0 Dothan 42 65 40 67 39 / 10 10 0 0 0 Albany 43 64 40 68 38 / 20 20 10 0 0 Valdosta 44 63 41 66 39 / 10 10 10 0 0 Cross City 45 67 41 69 40 / 10 0 0 0 0 Apalachicola 47 67 45 65 48 / 10 0 0 0 0 && .TAE WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... FL...None. GA...None. AL...None. GM...None. && $$ NEAR TERM/AVIATION/FIRE WX...Harrigan/Hersey SHORT TERM/LONG TERM/MARINE/HYDROLOGY...Fournier
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS MARQUETTE MI
1242 PM EST TUE NOV 6 2012 .SHORT TERM...(TODAY AND TONIGHT) ISSUED AT 518 AM EST TUE NOV 6 2012 WV IMAGERY AND RUC ANALYSIS INDICATED A MID/UPPER LEVEL RIDGE OVER THE WRN CONUS AND A TROUGH OVER THE EAST RESULTING IN NW FLOW FROM WRN CANADA THROUGH THE PLAINS. AN UPSTREAM SHORTWAVE TROUGH EXTENDING FROM NW MN INTO NW IA WAS DIVING TO THE SOUTHEAST. AT THE SFC...A TROUGH EXTENDED FROM LAKE WINNIPEG THROUGH WRN MN INTO ERN NEBRASKA. A BAND OF 290K-295K ISENTROPIC LIFT AHEAD OF THE TROUGH AND WEAK TO MODERATE 700-500 MB QVECTOR CONV SUPPORTED AN AREA OF PCPN FROM NE MN INTO NRN IA. THE STRONGER FORCING ASSOCIATED WITH THE SHORTWAVE REMAINED TO THE SOUTH OVER SRN MN. MOST OF THE PCPN WAS FALLING AS RAIN WITH -SN ON THE BACK EDGE OF THE PCPN OVER NE MN. IR LOOP SHOWED THAT MID CLOUDS HAD SPREAD ACROSS THE WEST HALF OF UPPER MI WHILE ANOTHER BAND OF CLOUDS OFF OF LAKE MI HAD EXPANDED OVER THE ERN CWA. TODAY...WITH THE STRONGER DYNAMICS ASSOCIATED WITH THE SHRTWV PASSING TO THE SW OF UPPER MI...MODELS HAVE TRENDED TOWARD SMALLER QPF AMOUNTS THROUGH THE AREA...ESPECIALLY OVER THE EAST AND WHERE DOWNSLOPE FLOW PREVAILS N CNTRL NEAR LAKE SUPERIOR. FCST CONTINUED TO UTILIZE NAM WET-BULB ZERO HEIGHTS IN DEFINING WARM LAYER FOR PCPN TYPE WITH MAINLY SNOW OVER THE HIGHER TERRAIN WEST AND RAIN ELSEWHERE. WITH QPF LESS THAN A TENTH OF AN INCH...SNOW AMOUNTS SHOULD ALSO AMOUNT TO LESS THAN AN INCH. WITH 850 MB TEMPS TO AROUND -5C AND NRN LAKE MI WATER TEMP NEAR 10C...HIGHER RES MODELS SUGGEST THAT INSTABILITY WILL BE GREAT ENOUGH TO SUPPORT A BAND OF PCPN OFF OF LAKE MI. THE BAND WOULD BE EXPECTED TO DEVELOP ACROSS THE ERN LAKE TO THROUGH BEAVER ISLAND INTO MACKINAC AND FAR SE LUCE COUNTY. AS THE DEEPER MOISTURE MOVES IN DURING THE AFTERNOON AND WINDS VEER FROM SW TO S THE BAND MAY SHIFT TO NEAR MANISTIQUE/GRAND MARAIS AND THEN TOWARD THE GARDEN PENINSULA AND CNTRL ALGER COUNTY TONIGHT. CONFIDENCE IN THESE DETAILS IS STILL LIMITED AND ONLY LIGHT PCPN AMOUNTS ARE EXPECTED. LOW LEVEL TEMP PROFILES SUGGEST THAT THE PCPN WOULD BE MAINLY RAIN. MODELS HAVE TRENDED TOWARD A SLOWER PROGRESSION WITH THE SFC TROUGH SOT THAT A SWITCH TO ONSHORE FLOW OVER THE WEST WILL BE DELAYED. HOWEVER...SOME LINGERING SNOW/RAIN SHOWERS MAY BE POSSIBLE NEAR THE TROUGH AXIS...ESPECIALLY DURING THE EVENING. 850 MB TEMPS NEAR -4C AND ONLY WEAK ONSHORE NW FLOW LATE TONIGHT WILL ONLY PROVIDE MARGINAL SUPPORT FOR LAKE ENHANCED PCPN. SO...ANY PCPN AMOUNTS WILL BE VERY LIGHT. .LONG TERM...(WEDNESDAY THROUGH MONDAY) ISSUED AT 518 AM EST TUE NOV 6 2012 BY 12Z WEDNESDAY THE 500MB WAVES WILL BE JOINING FORCES ACROSS THE OHIO VALLEY TO MID ATLANTIC STATES...WITH THE RIDGE OVER MUCH OF THE W HALF OF THE NATION. EXPECT THE RIDGE TO BUILDING BACK ACROSS THE UPPER GREAT LAKES ON WEDNESDAY...THANKS TO OUR NEXT SIGNIFICANT SYSTEM DROPPING FROM THE GULF OF AK TO THE PACIFIC NW. MOISTURE WILL BE ON THE DECREASE...WITH INVERSION HEIGHTS STEADILY LOWERING AOB 4-5KFT. THE 500MB RIDGE OVERHEAD WILL BECOME SUPPRESSED THURSDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH FRIDAY...WITH ZONAL FLOW...THANKS TO A SYSTEM SWINGING ACROSS E CANADA. EXPECT A WEAK COLD FRONT TO NEAR FROM THE W/NW FRIDAY IN BETWEEN THE SYSTEM OVER CANADA AND THE NEXT SYSTEM OF CONCERN ORGANIZING ACROSS THE WY/CO ROCKIES. THIS WILL DO LITTLE FOR US...OTHER THAN BRING CLOUDS TO THE REGION AND A FEW SHOWERS. THE COLD FRONT SHOULD PUSH NORTH IN THE FORM OF A WARM FRONT ON SATURDAY IN ADVANCE OF THE LOW PRESSURE ACROSS THE CENTRAL PLAINS STATES. BY 00Z SUNDAY THE WX MAP SHOULD SHOW THE ELONGATED SFC LOW STRETCHED FROM W MN TO KS...AND THE 500MB TROUGH TAKING UP THE W HALF OF THE NATION. ALONG WITH A WARM UP INTO THE LOW 50S ON INCREASED SOUTHERLY WINDS FOR THE WEEKEND THIS SYSTEM WILL LIKELY ALSO BRING WET WEATHER AND THUNDERSTORMS AS THE SFC LOW LIFTS INTO ONTARIO ON SUNDAY. KEPT THE SLIGHT CHANCE TS POTENTIAL FOR SATURDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH SUNDAY MORNING...DIMINISHING W TO E DURING THE AFTERNOON. KEPT NON-DIURNAL TEMPS FOR SUNDAY...WITH LOWERING VALUES W TO E DURING THE DAY AS COLDER AIR RUSHES IN. IF TIMING OF THE COLD FRONT STAYS CONSISTENT...WILL LIKELY NEED TO INCREASE TEMPS A BIT OVER THE DOWNSLOPE AREAS NEAR LAKE SUPERIOR E OF MQT /GIVEN STEADY 20KT S FLOW AT THE SFC AND 850MB WINDS OF 45-50KTS/. TEMPS SHOULD BE COLD ENOUGH FOR SNOW OVER FAR W UPPER MI BY 00Z MONDAY. HOWEVER...THE BULK OF THE MOISTURE WILL BE E BY THEN. THE 00Z GFS OFF OF BUFKIT WAS INDICATING THE POTENTIAL FOR 4-5IN AT IWD...AND AROUND 2.5IN AT CMX THROUGH 12Z TUESDAY. STILL...SOME OF THE COLDEST AIR OF THE YEAR SLIDING OVER LAKE SUPERIOR AND FAVORABLE WINDS SHOULD BE ENOUGH TO SUSTAIN LAKE EFFECT SNOW AS THE 500MB TROUGH SLOWLY MOVES ACROSS AND E OF THE AREA. THE 2-5IN MAY END UP BEING A LOW ESTIMATE IF THE 06/00Z GFS IS CORRECT...WITH A SECONDARY LOW DEVELOPING NEAR AK SUNDAY NIGHT AND PUSHING UP ALONG THE EXITING COLD FRONT. && .AVIATION...(FOR THE 18Z TAFS THROUGH 18Z WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON) ISSUED AT 1241 PM EST TUE NOV 6 2012 LIGHT RAIN AND SNOW SHOWERS WILL CONTINUE TO MOVE INTO EACH OF THE TAF SITES THROUGH THE AFTERNOON AND EVENING HOURS. PRECIPITATION INTENSITY SHOULD REMAIN FAIRLY LIGHT AS THE BEST FORCING IS EXPECTED TO REMAIN SOUTH OF THE AREA...OVER CENTRAL WI. WINDS SHOULD NOT BE TOO STRONG AT ANY OF THE TAF SITES...HOWEVER THERE COULD BE GUSTS UP TO 20 KNOTS THROUGH THE AFTERNOON NEAR CMX AND SAW. CEILINGS WILL LIKELY COME DOWN AT EACH OF THE TAF SITES...WITH EACH SITE DROPPING TO IFR AND POSSIBLY LIFR AFTER MIDNIGHT TONIGHT. AS A TROUGH MOVES ACROSS THE REGION OVERNIGHT AND REMAINS IN PLACE THROUGH EARLY WEDNESDAY MORNING. && .MARINE...(FOR THE 4 AM LAKE SUPERIOR FORECAST ISSUANCE) ISSUED AT 518 AM EST TUE NOV 6 2012 SOUTH WINDS OF 15 TO 25 KNOTS AHEAD OF A TROUGH WILL DIMINISH FROM WEST TO EAST THIS AFTERNOON AND TONIGHT. WINDS WILL THEN BECOME LIGHT AS HIGH PRES BUILDS INTO THE AREA WEDNESDAY. SW WINDS WILL AGAIN INCREASE INTO THE 15 TO 25 KNOT RANGE THURSDAY AS ANOTHER TROUGH APPROACHES THE REGION. GALES MAY BE POSSIBLE BY LATE SATURDAY INTO SUNDAY NIGHT AS A LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM LIFTS NORTHEAST THROUGH MINNESOTA INTO NORTHWEST ONTARIO. HOWEVER...THERE IS STILL CONSIDERABLE UNCERTAINTY WITH THE TRACK AND STRENGTH OF THE THIS SYSTEM. && .MQT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... UPPER MICHIGAN... NONE. LAKE SUPERIOR... NONE. LAKE MICHIGAN... NONE. && $$ SHORT TERM...JLB LONG TERM...KF AVIATION...KEC MARINE...JLB
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS LA CROSSE WI
238 PM CST TUE NOV 6 2012 .SHORT TERM...TONIGHT THROUGH FRIDAY 238 PM CST TUE NOV 6 2012 THE MAIN FOCUS THROUGH FRIDAY IS WITH HOW LONG THE PRECIPITATION AND CLOUD COVER HOLDS ON FOR INTO WEDNESDAY ALONG WHERE A COLD FRONT WILL END UP THURSDAY INTO FRIDAY. CURRENTLY...A BAND OF RAIN AND SNOW WILL CONTINUE TO TRACK TO THE EAST TONIGHT AHEAD OF WHAT APPEARS TO BE A WARM FRONT RATHER THAN A COLD FRONT EXTENDING SOUTH ALONG THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER. A SURFACE LOW NEAR DULUTH WILL QUICKLY DROP TO THE SOUTHEAST WITH A RIDGE OF HIGH PRESSURE MOVING INTO THE CENTRAL PLAINS. IN THE UPPER LEVELS...AN AMPLIFIED PATTERN IS TAKING SHAPE WITH BROAD TROUGHING ALONG THE ATLANTIC COAST AND RIDGING ACROSS THE ROCKIES. THIS LEAVES THE UPPER MISSISSIPPI RIVER VALLEY IN NORTHWESTERLY FLOW ALOFT WITH COOL AIR COMING INTO THE REGION FROM CANADA. AS THE LOW DROPS DOWN TONIGHT IT WILL KEEP SOME HIGH AMOUNTS OF MOISTURE LOCKED IN THE LOW LEVELS WITH STEEP SURFACE TO 800MB LAPSE RATES BASED ON 06.12Z NAM/GFS AND 06.18Z RAP SOUNDINGS. WITH ENOUGH LOW LEVEL LIFT PERSISTING THROUGH THE NIGHT AND THE DEEP LOW LEVEL MOISTURE EXTENDING FROM NEAR THE SURFACE UP INTO THE -10C RANGE AROUND 10KFT...SOME RAIN AND SNOW SHOWERS WILL DEVELOP/MOVE IN WITH THE LOW THIS EVENING. THE DEPTH OF THE MOISTURE AND LIFT SLOWLY DECREASE OVERNIGHT AS THE SYSTEM MOVES INTO THE OHIO RIVER VALLEY WHICH MEANS THAT ICE WILL STOP BEING GENERATED AND THE THERMAL PROFILE BECOMES MORE FAVORABLE FOR DRIZZLE. ANY LOW LEVEL OMEGA APPEARS TO BE OUT OF THE REGION BY AROUND 12Z TOMORROW MORNING...SO THE DRIZZLE SHOULD END BY THEN. CONFIDENCE IS NOT HIGH WITH HOW LONG THE CLOUD COVER WILL HOLD ON FOR...BUT HAVE GONE THE PESSIMISTIC ROUTE UNTIL THE RIDGE GETS IN TOMORROW AFTERNOON. 06.12Z NAM/GFS SOUNDINGS DO INDICATE SOME MOISTURE REMAINING TRAPPED UNDER A SINKING INVERSION THAT DROPS TO AROUND 4KFT BY TOMORROW AFTERNOON. DUE TO THIS CLOUD COVER...HAVE KEPT OVERNIGHT LOWS UP A BIT ABOVE GUIDANCE AND THEN LOWERED THEM A FEW DEGREES TOMORROW. THE FOCUS THEN SHIFTS TO A COLD FRONT THAT WILL DROP DOWN INTO THE REGION AS A MID LEVEL SHORT WAVE TROUGH SKIRTS THE NORTHERN PERIPHERY OF THE RIDGE. THE CONSENSUS BETWEEN THE 06.12Z GUIDANCE IS TO BRING THE FRONT ACROSS CENTRAL WISCONSIN AND IOWA TO A SURFACE LOW IN EASTERN COLORADO BY FRIDAY MORNING. IT WILL THEN STALL AND TRANSITION TO BEING A WARM FRONT WITH LOW LEVEL WARM AIR ADVECTION KICKING IN AS THE LOW EJECTS INTO THE PLAINS. WENT DRY ON FRIDAY BUT WILL HAVE TO MONITOR AS THE 06.12Z GFS SHOWS ENOUGH DEPTH TO THE MOISTURE ALONG THE FRONT THAT A FEW SHOWERS OR DRIZZLE COULD DEVELOP. .LONG TERM...FRIDAY NIGHT THROUGH TUESDAY 238 PM CST TUE NOV 6 2012 THE MAIN FOCUS FOR NEXT WEEKEND IS WITH THE BROAD TROUGHING ALOFT THAT BRINGS A DEEPENING SURFACE LOW ACROSS MINNESOTA ON SATURDAY. PRECIPITATION SHOULD BECOME MORE WIDESPREAD FRIDAY NIGHT AS THE WARM AIR ADVECTION STRENGTHENS AHEAD OF THE LOW. SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS WILL DEVELOP AHEAD OF A COLD FRONT IN MINNESOTA ON SATURDAY WHERE 0-3KM MUCAPE INCREASES TO AROUND 1000 J/KG IN THE AFTERNOON. IT APPEARS THAT THE BETTER CHANCES FOR ANY SEVERE WEATHER WILL BE TO THE WEST NEAR THE TRACK OF THE SURFACE LOW AND AHEAD OF THE COLD FRONT. SOME INSTABILITY HOLDS ON INTO THE EVENING AND OVERNIGHT...BUT IS RATHER SKINNY AND WEAKENS AS THE NIGHT PROGRESSES. AFTER THE FRONT PASSES THROUGH EARLY ON SUNDAY...THE NEXT QUESTION IS WITH WHETHER OR NOT THE COLD AIR WILL GET IN FAST ENOUGH WITH THE PRECIPITATION STILL FALLING THAT IT WOULD CHANGE OVER FROM RAIN TO SNOW. THE 06.12Z GFS IS A BIT FASTER WITH ENDING THE PRECIPITATION ON SUNDAY WHILE THE 06.12Z ECMWF HOLDS ONTO IT A BIT LONGER WITH A LOW TO MID LEVEL BAND OF FRONTOGENESIS WHICH COULD END UP BEING MORE CONDUCIVE TO THE SNOW OCCURRING. TEMPERATURES WILL PLUMMET SUNDAY THROUGH TUESDAY AS 850MB TEMPERATURES DROP TO AROUND -12C WHICH WILL HELP TO KEEP TEMPERATURES IN THE 30S FOR HIGHS AND 20S FOR LOWS. && .AVIATION...THROUGH 18Z WEDNESDAY 1146 AM CST TUE NOV 6 2012 WATER VAPOR IMAGERY SHOW A VIGOROUS SHORT WAVE TROUGH MOVING SOUTHEAST THROUGH EASTERN MINNESOTA. THE 06.12Z MODELS ARE IN VERY GOOD AGREEMENT THAT THIS SYSTEM WILL MOVE SOUTHEAST ALONG THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER THIS AFTERNOON. THIS SYSTEM WILL CONTINUE TO PRODUCE SCATTERED RAIN SHOWERS ACROSS THE AREA THROUGH THIS AFTERNOON. THE RAIN MAY MIX WITH SNOW AT TIMES ACROSS WISCONSIN. IN THE WAKE OF THIS SYSTEM...DRIZZLE WILL CONTINUE INTO TONIGHT. THINKING THAT ANY REDUCTIONS TO VISIBILITIES WILL MAINLY ALONG AND EAST OF INTERSTATE 94 THIS AFTERNOON. CEILINGS WILL BE MAINLY MVFR FROM THIS AFTERNOON THROUGH WEDNESDAY MORNING. && .ARX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... 238 PM CST TUE NOV 6 2012 WI...NONE. MN...NONE. IA...NONE. && $$ SHORT TERM...HALBACH LONG TERM...HALBACH AVIATION...BOYNE
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS LA CROSSE WI
1147 AM CST TUE NOV 6 2012 .SHORT TERM...TODAY 1047 AM CST TUE NOV 6 2012 THE MESO MODELS HAVE COME IN COOLER THIS MORNING...SO LOWERED TEMPERATURES BY ABOUT 5 DEGREES ACROSS THE AREA. RAP SOUNDINGS SUGGEST THAT SOME LIGHT SNOW WILL BE POSSIBLE ACROSS WESTERN WISCONSIN THIS AFTERNOON. WITH SNOW RATES LESS THAN THEY WERE THIS MORNING...EXPECTING ADDITION SNOW AMOUNTS OF LESS THAN A HALF INCH. FURTHER WEST...WRAP AROUND PRECIPITATION WILL MOVE INTO SOUTHEAST MINNESOTA AND NORTHEAST IOWA THIS AFTERNOON. SINCE THERE IS GOOD CONSENSUS OF THIS OCCURRING IN THE MODELS...ADDED SOME PRECIPITATION CHANCES TO THESE AREAS. .LONG TERM...FRIDAY THROUGH MONDAY 328 AM CST TUE NOV 6 2012 06.00Z MEDIUM RANGE MODEL RUNS CONTINUE TO INDICATE A LONGWAVE TROUGH WILL MOVE INTO THE MIDDLE OF THE COUNTRY FOR THE DAY 4-7 PERIOD...BRINGING AN ACTIVE PERIOD OF WEATHER TO THE UPPER MIDWEST FOR THE WEEKEND INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK. HOWEVER...PLENTY OF DETAIL DIFFERENCES WITH THE TIMING/EVOLUTION OF VARIOUS SHORTWAVES TO ROTATE THROUGH THE TROUGH AND PASS OVER OR BY THE REGION SAT INTO MON. AGAIN...THESE DIFFERENCES NOT UNEXPECTED IN THE DAY 5-7 TIME- FRAME BUT THEY DO LOWER FCST CONFIDENCE INTO THE AVERAGE RANGE FOR THE LONG TERM. AS PREVIOUS FORECASTER STATED...THE QUESTION TO START THE EXTENDED PERIOD IS WITH HOW FAR SOUTH A COLD FRONT MAKES IT ON FRI BEFORE IT STALLS AND TRANSITIONS TO A WARM FRONT. LATEST MODELS TEND TO WASH OUT THIS BOUNDARY BY FRIDAY WITH A VERY BROAD TROUGH FROM THE EASTERN CO LOW INTO EASTERN WI ON FRI. GFS THE ONLY MODEL TO PRODUCE SOME LIGHT -RA OVER THE AREA FRI...AND IT TENDS TO BE TOO ROBUST WITH THIS IN CAPPED WARM SECTORS. GIVEN A DIFFUSE BOUNDARY AT BEST LEFT FRI DRY. FIRST SHORTWAVE OUT OF THE TROUGH DEVELOPS A RATHER STRONG LOW INTO MN BY LATE SAT...WITH THE AREA UNDER STRONG 925-850MB WARMING AHEAD OF IT. SAT STILL LOOKS TO BE A VERY WARM DAY FOR MID NOV HOWEVER THE LOW LEVEL JET AND GULF MOISTURE CONTINUE TO STREAM INTO THE AREA...UNDER AN INVERSION. EVEN IN THE WARM SECTOR...SAT LOOKING TO BE A MOSTLY CLOUDY DAY AS A 50-55 DEW POINT AIRMASS IS PUSHED NORTHWARD OVER LOW-MID 40S SOIL/WATER TEMPS. GFS/ECMWF CONTINUE TO INDICATE UP TO 250 J/KG OF MU CAPE OVER THE AREA SAT. WITH SOME LIFTING IN THE 850MB LAYER UNDER FALLING HGTS ALOFT...SMALL -SHRA/ TSRA CHANCE ON SAT STILL LOOKS REASONABLE. THE STRONG COLD FRONT STILL SLATED TO PUSH ACROSS THE AREA SAT NIGHT...INTO THE 250 J/KG CAPE AIRMASS. STRONG FORCING SIGNAL WITH AND BEHIND THE FRONT FOR SAT NIGHT INTO SUN. 40-70 PERCENT SHRA CHANCE THESE PERIODS LOOK GOOD. SMALL TSRA CHANCE CONTINUES AS WELL SAT NIGHT. SOLUTIONS LESS CLEAR-CUT FOR SUN NIGHT/MON AS THE MAIN TROUGH BEGINS TO LIFT OUT. LATEST RUNS MORE PROGRESSIVE WITH THIS PART OF THE TROUGH/SHORTWAVE ENERGY...TAKING THE BULK OF IT SOUTH/EAST OF THE FCST AREA. WITH AVERAGE CONFIDENCE AT BEST BY MON...DID NOT STRAY FROM THE MODEL/ENSEMBLE CONSENSUS ON DAY 7 FOR NOW. && .AVIATION...THROUGH 18Z WEDNESDAY 1146 AM CST TUE NOV 6 2012 WATER VAPOR IMAGERY SHOW A VIGOROUS SHORT WAVE TROUGH MOVING SOUTHEAST THROUGH EASTERN MINNESOTA. THE 06.12Z MODELS ARE IN VERY GOOD AGREEMENT THAT THIS SYSTEM WILL MOVE SOUTHEAST ALONG THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER THIS AFTERNOON. THIS SYSTEM WILL CONTINUE TO PRODUCE SCATTERED RAIN SHOWERS ACROSS THE AREA THROUGH THIS AFTERNOON. THE RAIN MAY MIX WITH SNOW AT TIMES ACROSS WISCONSIN. IN THE WAKE OF THIS SYSTEM...DRIZZLE WILL CONTINUE INTO TONIGHT. THINKING THAT ANY REDUCTIONS TO VISIBILITIES WILL MAINLY ALONG AND EAST OF INTERSTATE 94 THIS AFTERNOON. CEILINGS WILL BE MAINLY MVFR FROM THIS AFTERNOON THROUGH WEDNESDAY MORNING. && .ARX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... 328 AM CST TUE NOV 6 2012 WI...NONE. MN...NONE. IA...NONE. && $$ SHORT TERM...BOYNE LONG TERM....RRS AVIATION...BOYNE
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS LA CROSSE WI
1049 AM CST TUE NOV 6 2012 .SHORT TERM...TODAY 1047 AM CST TUE NOV 6 2012 THE MESO MODELS HAVE COME IN COOLER THIS MORNING...SO LOWERED TEMPERATURES BY ABOUT 5 DEGREES ACROSS THE AREA. RAP SOUNDINGS SUGGEST THAT SOME LIGHT SNOW WILL BE POSSIBLE ACROSS WESTERN WISCONSIN THIS AFTERNOON. WITH SNOW RATES LESS THAN THEY WERE THIS MORNING...EXPECTING ADDITION SNOW AMOUNTS OF LESS THAN A HALF INCH. FURTHER WEST...WRAP AROUND PRECIPITATION WILL MOVE INTO SOUTHEAST MINNESOTA AND NORTHEAST IOWA THIS AFTERNOON. SINCE THERE IS GOOD CONSENSUS OF THIS OCCURRING IN THE MODELS...ADDED SOME PRECIPITATION CHANCES TO THESE AREAS. .LONG TERM...FRIDAY THROUGH MONDAY 328 AM CST TUE NOV 6 2012 06.00Z MEDIUM RANGE MODEL RUNS CONTINUE TO INDICATE A LONGWAVE TROUGH WILL MOVE INTO THE MIDDLE OF THE COUNTRY FOR THE DAY 4-7 PERIOD...BRINGING AN ACTIVE PERIOD OF WEATHER TO THE UPPER MIDWEST FOR THE WEEKEND INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK. HOWEVER...PLENTY OF DETAIL DIFFERENCES WITH THE TIMING/EVOLUTION OF VARIOUS SHORTWAVES TO ROTATE THROUGH THE TROUGH AND PASS OVER OR BY THE REGION SAT INTO MON. AGAIN...THESE DIFFERENCES NOT UNEXPECTED IN THE DAY 5-7 TIME- FRAME BUT THEY DO LOWER FCST CONFIDENCE INTO THE AVERAGE RANGE FOR THE LONG TERM. AS PREVIOUS FORECASTER STATED...THE QUESTION TO START THE EXTENDED PERIOD IS WITH HOW FAR SOUTH A COLD FRONT MAKES IT ON FRI BEFORE IT STALLS AND TRANSITIONS TO A WARM FRONT. LATEST MODELS TEND TO WASH OUT THIS BOUNDARY BY FRIDAY WITH A VERY BROAD TROUGH FROM THE EASTERN CO LOW INTO EASTERN WI ON FRI. GFS THE ONLY MODEL TO PRODUCE SOME LIGHT -RA OVER THE AREA FRI...AND IT TENDS TO BE TOO ROBUST WITH THIS IN CAPPED WARM SECTORS. GIVEN A DIFFUSE BOUNDARY AT BEST LEFT FRI DRY. FIRST SHORTWAVE OUT OF THE TROUGH DEVELOPS A RATHER STRONG LOW INTO MN BY LATE SAT...WITH THE AREA UNDER STRONG 925-850MB WARMING AHEAD OF IT. SAT STILL LOOKS TO BE A VERY WARM DAY FOR MID NOV HOWEVER THE LOW LEVEL JET AND GULF MOISTURE CONTINUE TO STREAM INTO THE AREA...UNDER AN INVERSION. EVEN IN THE WARM SECTOR...SAT LOOKING TO BE A MOSTLY CLOUDY DAY AS A 50-55 DEW POINT AIRMASS IS PUSHED NORTHWARD OVER LOW-MID 40S SOIL/WATER TEMPS. GFS/ECMWF CONTINUE TO INDICATE UP TO 250 J/KG OF MU CAPE OVER THE AREA SAT. WITH SOME LIFTING IN THE 850MB LAYER UNDER FALLING HGTS ALOFT...SMALL -SHRA/ TSRA CHANCE ON SAT STILL LOOKS REASONABLE. THE STRONG COLD FRONT STILL SLATED TO PUSH ACROSS THE AREA SAT NIGHT...INTO THE 250 J/KG CAPE AIRMASS. STRONG FORCING SIGNAL WITH AND BEHIND THE FRONT FOR SAT NIGHT INTO SUN. 40-70 PERCENT SHRA CHANCE THESE PERIODS LOOK GOOD. SMALL TSRA CHANCE CONTINUES AS WELL SAT NIGHT. SOLUTIONS LESS CLEAR-CUT FOR SUN NIGHT/MON AS THE MAIN TROUGH BEGINS TO LIFT OUT. LATEST RUNS MORE PROGRESSIVE WITH THIS PART OF THE TROUGH/SHORTWAVE ENERGY...TAKING THE BULK OF IT SOUTH/EAST OF THE FCST AREA. WITH AVERAGE CONFIDENCE AT BEST BY MON...DID NOT STRAY FROM THE MODEL/ENSEMBLE CONSENSUS ON DAY 7 FOR NOW. && .AVIATION...TODAY AND TONIGHT 527 AM CST TUE NOV 6 2012 AREA OF MAINLY LIGHT RAIN CONTINUES TO MAKE STEADY EASTWARD PROGRESS WITH THE REGIONAL COMPOSITE RADAR ALREADY SHOWING THE BACK EDGE APPROACHING THE I35 CORRIDOR. CEILINGS IN THE PRECIPITATION WILL BE PROBLEMATIC WITH KLSE DOWN IN THE VALLEY EXPECTED TO REMAIN MVFR WHILE KRST ON THE HIGHER TERRAIN TO BE IFR. THE VISIBILITY IN THE PRECIPITATION WILL BE MVFR. THE PRECIPITATION LOOKS LIKE IT SHOULD END IN KRST BY MID MORNING AND AROUND 18Z FOR KLSE. ONCE THE PRECIPITATION ENDS...LOOK FOR THE VISIBILITY TO COME UP TO VFR WITH MVFR CEILINGS. THE COLD FRONT WITH THE PRECIPITATION IS BACK ACROSS WESTERN MINNESOTA INTO NORTHWEST IOWA AND THIS SHOULD COME THROUGH BY EARLY AFTERNOON IN KRST AND MID AFTER AT KLSE SWINGING THE WINDS AROUND TO THE WEST/NORTHWEST. THE MIXING BEHIND THE FRONT LOOKS TO BE DEEP ENOUGH TO PRODUCE SOME WIND GUSTS TO AROUND 20 KNOTS AT KRST. THE CLOUDS ARE EXPECTED TO REMAIN OVER BOTH TAF SITES THROUGH THE NIGHT WITH MVFR CEILINGS WITH CLEARING TAKING PLACE AFTER 12Z WEDNESDAY. && .ARX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... 328 AM CST TUE NOV 6 2012 WI...NONE. MN...NONE. IA...NONE. && $$ SHORT TERM...BOYNE LONG TERM....RRS AVIATION...04