Forecast Discussions mentioning any of "HRRR" "RAP" "RR" "RUC13" "RUC" received at GSD on 11/03/12


AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS DENVER/BOULDER CO
1002 AM MDT THU NOV 1 2012 .UPDATE...CURRENT FORECASTS STILL LOOKING REASONABLE. SWATH OF MID AND HIGH LEVEL MOISTURE TO CONTINUE TO SPREAD ACROSS AREA...AS PER WRF SYNTHETIC SATELLITE IMAGERY. APPEARS THAT CLOUDS COULD BE THICK ENOUGH TO LIMIT EXPECTED WARMING BY A FEW DEGREES. WILL PROBABLY MAKE A LAST MINUTE CHANGE TO TEMPS...DEPENDING ON OBSERVATIONS. LATEST RUC AND HRRR INDICATING SOUTHERLY WINDS DEVELOPING ACROSS FAR EASTERN PLAINS DURING THE AFTERNOON. COULD SEE SOME GUSTS AROUND 25 MPH AT TIMES. WITH HUMIDITY EXPECTED TO DROP INTO THE TEENS...CONDITIONS COULD APPROACH CRITICAL FIRE WEATHER THRESHOLDS FOR A SHORT TIME. LOOKS LIKE IT WILL BE BRIEF...SO NO HILITES EXPECTED. && .AVIATION...CURRENT TAF TRENDS STILL SEEM IN ORDER...BASED ON LATEST RUC AND HRRR. WILL CONTINUE FOR THE AFTERNOON ISSUANCE. FRONT EXPECTED TO MOVE ACROSS AREA AIRPORTS SOMETIME BETWEEN 15Z AND 18Z FRIDAY...PER NAM AND GFS SOLUTIONS. LOW LEVEL MOISTURE APPEARS NON EXISTANT...NOT EXPECTING WEATHER OR EVEN CEILINGS BELOW 7000 FEET AGL. && .PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 328 AM MDT THU NOV 1 2012/ SHORT TERM...THE HIGH PRESSURE RIDGE ALOFT WILL BE SHIFTING EAST ACROSS COLORADO DURING THE DAY...WHICH WILL ALLOW THE FLOW ALOFT TO SHIFT MORE WEST AND SOUTHWEST BY AFTERNOON. SATELLITE IMAGERY SHOWING QUITE A BIT OF MIDDLE AND HIGH LEVEL CLOUDS ACROSS THE GREAT BASIN AND NORTHERN ROCKIES WHICH WILL MOVE INTO COLORADO... ESPECIALLY THIS AFTERNOON AND TONIGHT. MAIN CHANGE WAS TO INCREASE THE CLOUD COVER A BIT MORE FOR THIS AFTERNOON AND TONIGHT. LOW LEVELS WILL STILL REMAIN QUITE DRY SO NO CHANCE OF PRECIP ANYWHERE THROUGH TONIGHT. TEMPERATURES TODAY WILL BE SLIGHTLY WARMER FROM YESTERDAY AS 700MB TEMPS NUDGE UP ANOTHER DEGREE. DESPITE SOME ADDITIONAL WARMING POTENTIAL WITH MORE DOWNSLOPE FLOW...MOS GUIDANCE SEEMS A BIT TOO HIGH AND WILL GO BELOW GUIDANCE NUMBERS BY 2-4 DEGREES. LONG TERM...NW FLOW ALOFT WILL BE OVER THE AREA THE NEXT SEVERAL DAYS WITH ONLY SOME MID AND HIGH LEVEL MOISTURE EMBEDDED IN THE FLOW. THUS WILL KEEP FCST DRY THRU NEXT TUE WITH ONLY SOME PERIODS OF HIGHER LVL CLOUDINESS. AS FOR TEMPS A WK CDFNT WILL MOVE ACROSS NERN CO ON FRI AND DROP HIGHS BACK INTO THE LOWER TO MID 60S. FOR THE WEEKEND 850-700 MB TEMPS CHANGE VERY LITTLE SO WILL KEEP HIGHS NR SEASONAL LVLS. BY MON AND TUE SHOULD BEGIN TO SEE A WARMING TREND WITH READINGS IN THE 65 TO 70 RANGE ACROSS NERN CO. BY WED THE FLOW ALOFT WILL BECOME MORE WLY HOWEVER NO PCPN IS EXPECTED. HIGHS OVER NERN CO WILL ONCE AGAIN RANGE FROM 65 TO 70 DEGREES. AVIATION...VFR THROUGH TONIGHT WITH ONLY INCREASE IN MID AND HIGH LEVEL CLOUDS MAINLY ABOVE 10000 FEET AGL. TYPICAL DRAINAGE WINDS EARLY AM WITH SOUTH TO SOUTHWEST WINDS UNDER 15KT. NOT A CLEAR SIGNAL ON AFTERNOON WINDS BUT SHOULD BE A BIT MORE DOWNSLOPE COMPONENT AND GOOD MIXING EXPECTED BELOW 500MB. THIS SHOULD RESULT IN MAINLY WEST AND SOUTHWEST DIRECTIONS...ESPECIALLY AT BJC. FOR DEN AND APA THE SIGNAL THE DIRECTION APPEARS MORE IFFY. REGARDLES OF DIRECTION...WIND SPEEDS EXPECTED TO REMAIN UNDER 10KT THIS AFTERNOON. && .BOU WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... NONE. && $$ SHORT TERM...D-L LONG TERM....RPK AVIATION...D-L
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS MOUNT HOLLY NJ
700 PM EDT THU NOV 1 2012 .SYNOPSIS... THE REMNANTS OF SANDY CONTINUE TO SPIN AWAY TO OUR WEST AND ULTIMATELY WILL BE MOVED FURTHER NORTHEAST BY THE END OF THE WORK WEEK. HIGH PRESSURE WILL MOVE TOWARDS THE REGION FOR THE WEEKEND. A WEAK LOW PRESSURE FORMS TO THE SOUTH OF THE REGION AND LOOKS TO SKIRT BY TO OUR SOUTH ON MONDAY. A STRONGER COASTAL LOW COULD FORM JUST OFFSHORE OF NORTH CAROLINA ON TUESDAY AND MOVE TOWARDS OUR REGION ON WEDNESDAY INTO THURSDAY. && .NEAR TERM /UNTIL 6 AM FRIDAY MORNING/... THE FORECAST WAS UPDATED TO ACCOUNT FOR THE BATCH OF RAIN SHOWERS INCREASING ACROSS NORTHEAST MARYLAND. THE SHOWERS APPEAR TO BE DEVELOPING AHEAD OF A SPOKE RIDING SOUTHEAST THROUGH THE THE CYCLONIC FLOW AROUND THE CLOSED SYSTEM OVER QUEBEC. THE SUBCLOUD LAYER IS DRY...BUT SURFACE OBSERVATIONS IN NORTHERN VIRGINIA ARE SHOWING LIGHT RAIN REACHING THE SURFACE. THE LATEST HRRR SEEMS TO HAVE THIS ACTIVITY MORE OR LESS IN THE RIGHT PLACE...AND IT WAS USED FOR THE ENDING TIME OF THE RAIN (CLOSE TO THE 0200 UTC TIME FRAME). OTHERWISE...THE WRF-NMMB INITIALIZATION LOOKED SLIGHTLY BETTER (DEEPER TROF) THAN THE GFS AND WAS USED MORE HEAVILY THROUGH THE SHORT TERM. THE SLOW WEATHER RECOVERY FROM SANDY WILL CONTINUE, WITH THE EMPHASIS ON THE WORD SLOW. WHILE WHAT HAS BEEN ABLE TO MAKE IT TO THE GROUND HAS BEEN SOMEWHAT LIMITED, THE SHORT WAVES AND TRIGGERS CAN NOT BE CRITICIZED FOR THEIR EFFORTS. PLENTY OF ECHOES ON THE 88DS, EVEN IF THEY ARE WEAK. FOR THIS EVENING WE SHOULD BE LOSING SHORT WAVE SUPPORT, SO WE DID SCALE BACK THE POPS WE WILL HAVE. AT THE END OF TONIGHT, ANOTHER SHORT WAVE IS APPROACHING TOWARD MORNING ALONG WITH THE CLOSING LOW. WE MIGHT BE TOO OPTIMISTIC IN HOLDING OFF POPS TOWARD MORNING WEST. OTHERWISE RESIDUAL CLOUDINESS IS FORECAST TO BE AROUND. LIKE LAST NIGHT, WE THINK THERE MAY BE A FEW MORE BREAKS LATER AT NIGHT, BEFORE THE NEXT SHORT WAVE BRINGS MORE CLOUDS ALONG. IN SPITE OF THE CLOUDS, MIN TEMPS LEANED TOWARD THE LOWER STAT GUIDANCE LAST NIGHT AND WE DID ALSO IN THE MORE OUTLYING AREAS, ESPECIALLY SOUTHEAST. TEMPS THOUGH SHOULD BE TOO HIGH FOR ANY FROST OR FREEZE FLAGS. && .SHORT TERM /6 AM FRIDAY MORNING THROUGH 6 PM FRIDAY/... WITH THE CLOSED LOW PASSING ACROSS OUR CWA, OUR POPS ON FRIDAY ARE LEANING TOWARD THE WRF-NMMB VS GFS MOS WHICH IS PRETTY MUCH ZILCH. AGAIN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A COUPLE OF HUNDREDTHS IF THAT IN MOST AREAS. WHILE THE AIR MASS WILL BE MORE UNSTABLE THAN TODAY BECAUSE OF THE COLD POCKET ALOFT, THE MORNING TIMING OF THE PASSING OF THE FEATURE WOULD CUT DOWN ON ITS POTENTIAL. THE FORECAST MID LEVEL QVEC CONVERGENCE ARE SUFFICIENT FOR US TO INCLUDE AT LEAST SLGT CHCS IN ALL PLACES DURING THE MORNING. AS WE MOVE INTO THE AFTERNOON, THE LOOK IS MORE OF LAKE EFFECT STREAMERS GETTING INTO THE NORTHERN PART OF OUR CWA, WITH CHANCES CUTTING OFF FARTHER TO THE SOUTH AS THE CLOSED LOW EXITS. THERMALLY THE AIR MASS REMAINS FAIRLY WARM BELOW 925MB AND THE DOWNSLOPING COMPONENT WILL ALSO ASSIST. SO ANY SNOW THAT DOES FALL ALOFT IS GOING TO HAVE TO FIGHT AN INHOSPITABLE FCST WET BULB TEMP. THUS MENTION IS LIMITED TO THE HIGHER ELEVATIONS FAR NORTHWEST. BECAUSE OF THE KATABATIC FLOW, WE DID GO ALONG WITH THE STAT GUIDANCE RIDE IN SPITE OF WHAT SHOULD BE MORE LIMITED SUNSHINE. HOPEFULLY WE WERE NOT TOO BULLISH WITH THIS PROCESS. && .LONG TERM /FRIDAY NIGHT THROUGH THURSDAY/... 5-WAVE GUIDANCE SHOWS A NEGATIVELY TILTED EASTERN UNITED STATES TROUGH REMAINING IN PLACE FOR A MAJORITY OF THE LONGTERM PERIOD. DOWNSTREAM RIDGING ACROSS THE NORTH CENTRAL ATLANTIC WILL KEEP THE NORTHERN BRANCH OF THE JET STREAM JUST TO THE SOUTH OF THE REGION. THE TROUGH BEGINS TO FLATTEN OUT LATE IN THE PERIOD AS THE RIDGING DOWNSTREAM SLOWLY RETROGRADES TOWARDS THE EAST COAST. WE SHOULD BE MOSTLY DRY THIS WEEKEND AS A WEAK MID-LEVEL RIDGE MOVES ACROSS THE REGION. A STIFF NORTHWEST WIND, COUPLED WITH STRONG COLD AIR ADVECTION, WILL MAKE FOR GUSTY CONDITIONS DURING THE DAY SATURDAY AND INTO SUNDAY NIGHT. THIS IS ALL DUE TO AN EMBEDDED MID-LEVEL SHORTWAVE PUSHING THROUGH THE REGION LATE FRIDAY NIGHT. WILL HAVE TO CONTINUE TO WATCH THE DEVELOPMENT OF A COASTAL LOW THAT FORMS ALONG A STALLING FRONTAL BOUNDARY TO OUR SOUTH. YESTERDAY THE 12Z GFS HAD THE TIMING OF THE SYSTEM APPROACHING THE JERSEY COAST ON THE MONDAY INTO TUESDAY TIMEFRAME...THIS WAS BASED ON A STRONGER SHORTWAVE DIVING OUT OF THE LAKES. TODAYS 12Z RUN SHOWS THE SAME SETUP BY DELAYS THE CYCLOGENESIS UNTIL WEDNESDAY INTO THURSDAY...WHERE A SECOND AND EVEN STRONGER SHORTWAVE DIVES DOWN FROM THE LAKES. IT IS THIS SECOND MID-LEVEL SHORTWAVE THAT TAKES ON MUCH MORE AMPLIFICATION AS IT DIVES FURTHER SOUTH. THE GFS PHASES ITS SOUTHERN STREAM ENERGY WITH THE NORTHERN BRANCH SOONER THAN COMPARED WITH THE ECMWF. BOTH MODELS KEEP THE LOW PRETTY CLOSE TO THE COAST SO IN TERMS OF SENSIBLE WEATHER WE COULD SEE RAIN ACROSS A BROAD PORTION OF THE REGION WITH POSSIBLY A MIX ACROSS THE HIGHER ELEVATIONS. TEMPERATURE WISE, SINCE THE JET STREAM WILL STILL REMAIN TO OUR SOUTH THROUGH MOST OF THE PERIOD WITH THE EAST COAST TROUGH IN PLACE, WE WILL CONTINUE TO EXPERIENCE BELOW NORMAL TEMPERATURES. && .AVIATION /00Z FRIDAY THROUGH TUESDAY/... THE FOLLOWING DISCUSSION IS FOR KPHL, KPNE, KTTN, KABE, KRDG, KILG, KMIV, KACY AND SURROUNDING AREAS. VFR CONDITIONS CONTINUE EARLY THIS EVENING AS THE WESTERLY WIND DIMINISHES. A BATCH OF RAIN SHOWERS OVER NORTHEAST MARYLAND COULD AFFECT KILG...KMIV AND POSSIBLY KACY BEFORE 0300 UTC. AT THIS POINT...IT DOES NOT APPEAR AS THOUGH THE SHOWERS WILL RESULT IN MVFR CEILINGS OR VISIBILITIES AT THE ABOVEMENTIONED LOCATIONS. VFR CEILINGS ARE EXPECTED TO REMAIN IN PLACE FOR THE REST OF THE NIGHT...AND CEILINGS COULD RISE TO A MID DECK AFTER 0600 UTC. IN FACT...FROM KPHL SOUTH AND EAST CLOUDS COULD SCATTERED OUT TOWARD 1200 UTC. A WESTERLY WIND OF 5 TO 10 KNOTS IS EXPECTED OVERNIGHT. VFR CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED FRIDAY. VFR CEILINGS ARE EXPECTED AT ALL TERMINAL LOCATIONS...WITH CLOUD BASES GENERALLY NEAR 5000 FEET. THE WESTERLY GRADIENT WILL INCREASE ENOUGH TO ALLOW GUSTS TO DEVELOP BETWEEN 1500 AND 1600 UTC...AND LAST THROUGH 2100 UTC. FOR MOST FORECAST POINTS...WIND GUSTS SHOULD PEAK NEAR 23 KNOTS. SCATTERED RAIN SHOWERS ARE POSSIBLE IN THE LATE MORNING AND AFTERNOON...BUT RIGHT NOW IT DOES NOT APPEAR AS THOUGH THEY WILL RESULT IN MVFR CEILINGS OR VISIBILITIES. THUS...THEY HAVE NOT BEEN ADDED TO THE FORECAST FOR FRIDAY YET. OUTLOOK... FRIDAY NIGHT - SUNDAY MORNING...VFR WITH GUSTY NW WINDS. SUNDAY - TUESDAY...VFR EXPECTED AS WINDS TURN MORE TOWARDS THE NORTH-NORTHEAST. && .MARINE... OUR MARINE WATERS ARE GOING TO BE CLOSE TO SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY CRITERIA TONIGHT WITH GREATER CONFIDENCE ABOUT THE CRITERIA BEING MET AS FRIDAY PROGRESSES. THE OVERALL GRADIENT AND MIXING LOOKS SLIGHTLY BETTER OVER THE OCEAN, SO WE STARTED THE SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY EARLIER THAN DELAWARE BAY. REGARDLESS THE INCREASING COLD AIR ADVECTION AND TIGHTENING GRADIENT OVER THE WARMER WATER AS FRIDAY PROGRESSES WILL INCREASE THE LIKELIHOOD OF CONDITIONS BEING MET. OUTLOOK... SMALL CRAFT WINDS WILL BE PLACE FOR THE ENTIRE DAY ON SATURDAY AND COULD SPILL INTO SUNDAY...MAINLY ALONG THE COAST. THE BAY LOOKS TO LOSE THE STRONGER WINDS SATURDAY NIGHT AS THE PRESSURE GRADIENT AND STRONG COLD AIR ADVECTION BEGIN TO WEAKEN A BIT. WITH HIGH PRESSURE IN PLACE WE SHOULD REMAIN FAIRLY DRY ACROSS OUR WATERS TOO. WE ARE CONTINUING TO WATCH THE POSSIBLE DEVELOPMENT OF A STRONG COASTAL LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM NEXT WEEK. THE SYSTEM MAY DEVELOP OFF OF NORTH CAROLINA AND MOVE TOWARDS THE NORTH BY WEDNESDAY INTO THURSDAY. WINDS WILL BEGIN TO SWING AROUND TO THE NORTH-NORTHEAST ON WEDNESDAY AND SEAS WILL CLIMB...POSSIBLY UPWARDS OF 5-6 FEET. && .PHI WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... PA...NONE. NJ...NONE. DE...NONE. MD...NONE. MARINE...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY FROM 8 AM FRIDAY TO 6 PM EDT SATURDAY FOR ANZ450>455. SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY FROM 11 AM FRIDAY TO 6 PM EDT SATURDAY FOR ANZ430-431. && $$ SYNOPSIS...HEAVENER NEAR TERM...GIGI/HAYES SHORT TERM...GIGI LONG TERM...HEAVENER AVIATION...HAYES/HEAVENER MARINE...GIGI/HEAVENER
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS MOUNT HOLLY NJ
619 PM EDT THU NOV 1 2012 .SYNOPSIS... THE REMNANTS OF SANDY CONTINUE TO SPIN AWAY TO OUR WEST AND ULTIMATELY WILL BE MOVED FURTHER NORTHEAST BY THE END OF THE WORK WEEK. HIGH PRESSURE WILL MOVE TOWARDS THE REGION FOR THE WEEKEND. A WEAK LOW PRESSURE FORMS TO THE SOUTH OF THE REGION AND LOOKS TO SKIRT BY TO OUR SOUTH ON MONDAY. A STRONGER COASTAL LOW COULD FORM JUST OFFSHORE OF NORTH CAROLINA ON TUESDAY AND MOVE TOWARDS OUR REGION ON WEDNESDAY INTO THURSDAY. && .NEAR TERM /UNTIL 6 AM FRIDAY MORNING/... THE FORECAST WAS UPDATED TO ACCOUNT FOR THE BATCH OF RAIN SHOWERS INCREASING ACROSS NORTHEAST MARYLAND. THE SHOWERS APPEAR TO BE DEVELOPING AHEAD OF A SPOKE RIDING SOUTHEAST THROUGH THE THE CYCLONIC FLOW AROUND THE CLOSED SYSTEM OVER QUEBEC. THE SUBCLOUD LAYER IS DRY...BUT SURFACE OBSERVATIONS IN NORTHERN VIRGINIA ARE SHOWING LIGHT RAIN REACHING THE SURFACE. THE LATEST HRRR SEEMS TO HAVE THIS ACTIVITY MORE OR LESS IN THE RIGHT PLACE...AND IT WAS USED FOR THE ENDING TIME OF THE RAIN (CLOSE TO THE 0200 UTC TIME FRAME). OTHERWISE...THE WRF-NMMB INITIALIZATION LOOKED SLIGHTLY BETTER (DEEPER TROF) THAN THE GFS AND WAS USED MORE HEAVILY THROUGH THE SHORT TERM. THE SLOW WEATHER RECOVERY FROM SANDY WILL CONTINUE, WITH THE EMPHASIS ON THE WORD SLOW. WHILE WHAT HAS BEEN ABLE TO MAKE IT TO THE GROUND HAS BEEN SOMEWHAT LIMITED, THE SHORT WAVES AND TRIGGERS CAN NOT BE CRITICIZED FOR THEIR EFFORTS. PLENTY OF ECHOES ON THE 88DS, EVEN IF THEY ARE WEAK. FOR THIS EVENING WE SHOULD BE LOSING SHORT WAVE SUPPORT, SO WE DID SCALE BACK THE POPS WE WILL HAVE. AT THE END OF TONIGHT, ANOTHER SHORT WAVE IS APPROACHING TOWARD MORNING ALONG WITH THE CLOSING LOW. WE MIGHT BE TOO OPTIMISTIC IN HOLDING OFF POPS TOWARD MORNING WEST. OTHERWISE RESIDUAL CLOUDINESS IS FORECAST TO BE AROUND. LIKE LAST NIGHT, WE THINK THERE MAY BE A FEW MORE BREAKS LATER AT NIGHT, BEFORE THE NEXT SHORT WAVE BRINGS MORE CLOUDS ALONG. IN SPITE OF THE CLOUDS, MIN TEMPS LEANED TOWARD THE LOWER STAT GUIDANCE LAST NIGHT AND WE DID ALSO IN THE MORE OUTLYING AREAS, ESPECIALLY SOUTHEAST. TEMPS THOUGH SHOULD BE TOO HIGH FOR ANY FROST OR FREEZE FLAGS. && .SHORT TERM /6 AM FRIDAY MORNING THROUGH 6 PM FRIDAY/... WITH THE CLOSED LOW PASSING ACROSS OUR CWA, OUR POPS ON FRIDAY ARE LEANING TOWARD THE WRF-NMMB VS GFS MOS WHICH IS PRETTY MUCH ZILCH. AGAIN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A COUPLE OF HUNDREDTHS IF THAT IN MOST AREAS. WHILE THE AIR MASS WILL BE MORE UNSTABLE THAN TODAY BECAUSE OF THE COLD POCKET ALOFT, THE MORNING TIMING OF THE PASSING OF THE FEATURE WOULD CUT DOWN ON ITS POTENTIAL. THE FORECAST MID LEVEL QVEC CONVERGENCE ARE SUFFICIENT FOR US TO INCLUDE AT LEAST SLGT CHCS IN ALL PLACES DURING THE MORNING. AS WE MOVE INTO THE AFTERNOON, THE LOOK IS MORE OF LAKE EFFECT STREAMERS GETTING INTO THE NORTHERN PART OF OUR CWA, WITH CHANCES CUTTING OFF FARTHER TO THE SOUTH AS THE CLOSED LOW EXITS. THERMALLY THE AIR MASS REMAINS FAIRLY WARM BELOW 925MB AND THE DOWNSLOPING COMPONENT WILL ALSO ASSIST. SO ANY SNOW THAT DOES FALL ALOFT IS GOING TO HAVE TO FIGHT AN INHOSPITABLE FCST WET BULB TEMP. THUS MENTION IS LIMITED TO THE HIGHER ELEVATIONS FAR NORTHWEST. BECAUSE OF THE KATABATIC FLOW, WE DID GO ALONG WITH THE STAT GUIDANCE RIDE IN SPITE OF WHAT SHOULD BE MORE LIMITED SUNSHINE. HOPEFULLY WE WERE NOT TOO BULLISH WITH THIS PROCESS. && .LONG TERM /FRIDAY NIGHT THROUGH THURSDAY/... 5-WAVE GUIDANCE SHOWS A NEGATIVELY TILTED EASTERN UNITED STATES TROUGH REMAINING IN PLACE FOR A MAJORITY OF THE LONGTERM PERIOD. DOWNSTREAM RIDGING ACROSS THE NORTH CENTRAL ATLANTIC WILL KEEP THE NORTHERN BRANCH OF THE JET STREAM JUST TO THE SOUTH OF THE REGION. THE TROUGH BEGINS TO FLATTEN OUT LATE IN THE PERIOD AS THE RIDGING DOWNSTREAM SLOWLY RETROGRADES TOWARDS THE EAST COAST. WE SHOULD BE MOSTLY DRY THIS WEEKEND AS A WEAK MID-LEVEL RIDGE MOVES ACROSS THE REGION. A STIFF NORTHWEST WIND, COUPLED WITH STRONG COLD AIR ADVECTION, WILL MAKE FOR GUSTY CONDITIONS DURING THE DAY SATURDAY AND INTO SUNDAY NIGHT. THIS IS ALL DUE TO AN EMBEDDED MID-LEVEL SHORTWAVE PUSHING THROUGH THE REGION LATE FRIDAY NIGHT. WILL HAVE TO CONTINUE TO WATCH THE DEVELOPMENT OF A COASTAL LOW THAT FORMS ALONG A STALLING FRONTAL BOUNDARY TO OUR SOUTH. YESTERDAY THE 12Z GFS HAD THE TIMING OF THE SYSTEM APPROACHING THE JERSEY COAST ON THE MONDAY INTO TUESDAY TIMEFRAME...THIS WAS BASED ON A STRONGER SHORTWAVE DIVING OUT OF THE LAKES. TODAYS 12Z RUN SHOWS THE SAME SETUP BY DELAYS THE CYCLOGENESIS UNTIL WEDNESDAY INTO THURSDAY...WHERE A SECOND AND EVEN STRONGER SHORTWAVE DIVES DOWN FROM THE LAKES. IT IS THIS SECOND MID-LEVEL SHORTWAVE THAT TAKES ON MUCH MORE AMPLIFICATION AS IT DIVES FURTHER SOUTH. THE GFS PHASES ITS SOUTHERN STREAM ENERGY WITH THE NORTHERN BRANCH SOONER THAN COMPARED WITH THE ECMWF. BOTH MODELS KEEP THE LOW PRETTY CLOSE TO THE COAST SO IN TERMS OF SENSIBLE WEATHER WE COULD SEE RAIN ACROSS A BROAD PORTION OF THE REGION WITH POSSIBLY A MIX ACROSS THE HIGHER ELEVATIONS. TEMPERATURE WISE, SINCE THE JET STREAM WILL STILL REMAIN TO OUR SOUTH THROUGH MOST OF THE PERIOD WITH THE EAST COAST TROUGH IN PLACE, WE WILL CONTINUE TO EXPERIENCE BELOW NORMAL TEMPERATURES. && .AVIATION /22Z THURSDAY THROUGH TUESDAY/... THE FOLLOWING DISCUSSION IS FOR KPHL, KPNE, KTTN, KABE, KRDG, KILG, KMIV, KACY AND SURROUNDING AREAS. THE 18Z TAFS WERE SLIGHTLY MORE OPTIMISTIC AS THE AIR MASS HAS TRENDED SLIGHTLY DRIER FOR THE KPHL METRO AREA AIRPORTS SOUTHEASTWARD. WE DID MAINTAIN MVFR CONDITIONS AT KRDG AND KABE AT TIMES. NO VSBY RESTRICTIONS ARE EXPECTED AT THE TERMINALS. FOR THE REST OF THIS AFTERNOON WE ARE EXPECTING MVFR CIGS TO OCCUR AT TIMES AT KRDG, KABE AND KTTN, WITH LOWER LEVEL VFR CIGS AT THE REST OF OUR TERMINALS. LOWEST CIGS HIER TRRN AIRPORTS FARTHER TO THE NORTHWEST. WHILE THERE COULD BE SOME LIGHT SHOWERS (MAINLY NORTHWEST), NO RESTRICTIONS ARE EXPECTED. WINDS WILL BE STRONGER THAN YESTERDAY FROM THE WEST AND THE FORECAST SOUNDINGS ARE SUGGESTING MORE OF A HEALTHY SUSTAINED AT 10 TO 15 KNOTS, WITH NOT MUCH GUSTINESS ABOVE 20 KNOTS. CIGS ARE FORECAST TO LIFT TO VFR LEVELS AT THE NORTHWEST TERMINALS AND REMAIN SO ELSEWHERE LATER THIS EVENING AND OVERNIGHT. SOME SOUNDINGS ARE SUGGESTING GUSTINESS INTO THE EVENING. FOR NOW WITHOUT A STRONG INCREASE IN PRESSURE, WE OPTED FOR A SLIGHTLY HIGHER THAN GUIDANCE SUSTAINED. WINDS WERE THEN LOWERED OVERNIGHT. TOO MANY CLOUDS FOR FOG TO FORM. ON FRIDAY, WE REPEAT THE PROCESS AGAIN, BUT WITH EVEN DRIER AIR. ALL CUMULUS BASED CLOUDS THAT ARE EXPECTED TO FORM SHOULD BE AT VFR LEVELS. THERE WILL BE SOME LIGHT SHOWERS AROUND AGAIN, BUT CONFIDENCE IS TOO LOW TO PLACE IN THE TAFS AND ALSO NO RESTRICTIONS AT THE TERMINALS IS EXPECTED. WIND DIRECTION WILL BECOME SLIGHTLY MORE NORTHWEST WITH ONCE AGAIN A HEALTHY SUSTAINED SPEED DEVELOPING CLOSE TO 15 KNOTS WITH SLIGHTLY HIGHER GUSTS INTO THE 20S. OUTLOOK... FRIDAY NIGHT - SUNDAY MORNING...VFR WITH GUSTY NW WINDS. SUNDAY - TUESDAY...VFR EXPECTED AS WINDS TURN MORE TOWARDS THE NORTH-NORTHEAST. && .MARINE... OUR MARINE WATERS ARE GOING TO BE CLOSE TO SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY CRITERIA TONIGHT WITH GREATER CONFIDENCE ABOUT THE CRITERIA BEING MET AS FRIDAY PROGRESSES. THE OVERALL GRADIENT AND MIXING LOOKS SLIGHTLY BETTER OVER THE OCEAN, SO WE STARTED THE SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY EARLIER THAN DELAWARE BAY. REGARDLESS THE INCREASING COLD AIR ADVECTION AND TIGHTENING GRADIENT OVER THE WARMER WATER AS FRIDAY PROGRESSES WILL INCREASE THE LIKELIHOOD OF CONDITIONS BEING MET. OUTLOOK... SMALL CRAFT WINDS WILL BE PLACE FOR THE ENTIRE DAY ON SATURDAY AND COULD SPILL INTO SUNDAY...MAINLY ALONG THE COAST. THE BAY LOOKS TO LOSE THE STRONGER WINDS SATURDAY NIGHT AS THE PRESSURE GRADIENT AND STRONG COLD AIR ADVECTION BEGIN TO WEAKEN A BIT. WITH HIGH PRESSURE IN PLACE WE SHOULD REMAIN FAIRLY DRY ACROSS OUR WATERS TOO. WE ARE CONTINUING TO WATCH THE POSSIBLE DEVELOPMENT OF A STRONG COASTAL LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM NEXT WEEK. THE SYSTEM MAY DEVELOP OFF OF NORTH CAROLINA AND MOVE TOWARDS THE NORTH BY WEDNESDAY INTO THURSDAY. WINDS WILL BEGIN TO SWING AROUND TO THE NORTH-NORTHEAST ON WEDNESDAY AND SEAS WILL CLIMB...POSSIBLY UPWARDS OF 5-6 FEET. && .PHI WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... PA...NONE. NJ...NONE. DE...NONE. MD...NONE. MARINE...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY FROM 8 AM FRIDAY TO 6 PM EDT SATURDAY FOR ANZ450>455. SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY FROM 11 AM FRIDAY TO 6 PM EDT SATURDAY FOR ANZ430-431. && $$ SYNOPSIS...HEAVENER NEAR TERM...GIGI/HAYES SHORT TERM...GIGI LONG TERM...HEAVENER AVIATION...GIGI/HEAVENER MARINE...GIGI/HEAVENER
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS TAMPA BAY RUSKIN FL
210 AM EDT THU NOV 1 2012 .SYNOPSIS... 18Z WATER VAPOR AND H4 RAP ANALYSIS SHOWING A CONTINUED AMPLIFIED UPPER LEVEL PATTERN OVER THE CONUS THIS MORNING. NORTHERN STREAM FLOW CONSISTS OF A SHARP TROUGH OVER THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST FOLLOWED DOWNSTREAM BY RIDING OVER THE INTER-MOUNTAIN WEST/CENTRAL PLAINS...AND THEN FINALLY BACK INTO A LARGE LONGWAVE TROUGH ALONG THE EASTERN SEABOARD. OUR FORECAST AREA RESIDES ON THE SOUTHWEST PERIPHERY OF THIS LONGWAVE TROUGH UNDER DEEP LAYER WEST/NW FLOW. 12Z KTBW SOUNDING PROFILE SHOWS A FAIRLY MOIST LOW LEVEL ENVIRONMENT BELOW AROUND 700MB UNDERNEATH VERY DRY MID-LEVELS. PW VALUES IS ONLY AROUND 1" WITH THIS PROFILE AND THIS OVERALL DRY AIRMASS WILL KEEP SHOWER DEPTH/STRENGTH IN CHECK TODAY. AT THE SURFACE...WEAK COLD FRONT/SURFACE TROUGH IS SINKING SOUTHWARD THROUGH THE REGION AS A RESULT OF YET ANOTHER WEAK SHORTWAVE DISTURBANCE ROTATING DOWN THE BACKSIDE OF THE EASTERN U.S. TROUGH. LOW LEVEL FOCUS ALONG THIS BOUNDARY COMBINED WITH A WEAK/NARROW ZONE OF SYNOPTIC SUPPORT/QG FORCING WITH THE SHORTWAVE WILL CONTINUE TO SUPPORT WIDELY SCATTERED SHOWERS AND EVEN AN ISOLATED THUNDERSTORM INTO THE EVENING HOURS. THE BEST CHANCE OF A BRIEF SHOWER WILL BE WITHIN THE PRE-FRONTAL ENVIRONMENT...PRIMARILY ALONG AND SOUTH OF THE I-4 CORRIDOR. && .SHORT TERM (TONIGHT THROUGH SATURDAY)... TONIGHT...BOUNDARY WILL SLIP INTO THE SOUTHERN FORECAST AREA OVERNIGHT AND BE SOUTH OF OUR REGION BY SUNRISE FRIDAY MORNING. A FEW ISOLATED SHOWERS WILL BE POSSIBLE SOUTH OF TAMPA BAY... ESPECIALLY DURING THE EVENING...BUT NOTHING THAT SHOULD SPOIL OUTDOOR PLANS. WILL END ALL SHOWER CHANCES OVER THE SOUTHERN ZONES BY FRIDAY MORNING. A REINFORCING SHOT OF DRY AND COOL AIR WILL BE FILTERING IN FROM THE NORTH TONIGHT IN THE WAKE OF THE FRONT ALLOWING NORMALLY COLDER SPOTS FROM BROOKSVILLE NORTHWARD TO POTENTIALLY REACH THE MID/UPPER 40S BY SUNRISE. LOWS WILL BE WARMER...MAINLY MID 50S TO 60S FURTHER SOUTH. FRIDAY/FRIDAY NIGHT...SURFACE FRONT WILL BE SOUTH OF THE FORECAST AREA BY SUNRISE ALONG WITH ANY ASSOCIATED SHOWER ACTIVITY. DEEP LAYER DRY AIR AND WEAK LARGE SCALE SUBSIDENCE WILL RESULT IN A DRY DAY UNDER ABUNDANT SUNSHINE. THE MAIN INFLUENCE FROM THIS FRONTAL PASSAGE WILL BE THE ARRIVAL OF A DRIER AIRMASS. THEREFORE...NO LACK OF INSOLATION WILL ALLOW A GOOD DIURNAL REBOUND IN TEMPERATURES UP INTO THE UPPER 70S/80 NORTH AND LOWER 80S SOUTH. TEMPERATURES MAY END UP A FEW DEGREES COOLER ALONG THE IMMEDIATE COAST AS AN ONSHORE COMPONENT OF WIND IS LIKELY TO DEVELOP DURING THE AFTERNOON. ANOTHER SEASONABLY COOL NIGHT EXPECTED INTO SATURDAY MORNING AS THE SURFACE RIDGE SETS UP OVER THE CENTRAL PENINSULA. THE DRY LOW LEVELS/LIGHT WINDS/MOSTLY CLEAR SKIES SHOULD SET UP A DECENT RADIATIONAL COOLING SCENARIO AND ALLOW NORMALLY COLDER INLAND SPOTS TO DROP INTO THE UPPER 40S. ELSEWHERE 50S WILL BE COMMON. SATURDAY...ANOTHER VERY PLEASANT DRY AND SEASONABLE DAY ON TAP FOR SATURDAY UNDER MAINLY ZONAL FLOW ALOFT AND RIDGING AT THE LOWER LEVELS. THE AIRMASS WILL MODERATE SOMEWHAT BY THIS TIME AND THEREFORE WOULD EXPECT TO ADD A COUPLE OF DEGREES TO THE MAXIMUM TEMPERATURES FROM THE FRIDAY FORECAST. ENJOY! && LONG TERM (SATURDAY NIGHT-WEDNESDAY)... A WEAK S/W DISTURBANCE WILL DROP OVER THE SOUTHEAST U.S. SUNDAY NIGHT AND MONDAY WITH A SLIGHT CHANCE OF SHOWERS...AS A STRONGER NORTHERN STREAM DISTURBANCE DIGS THROUGH THE CENTRAL PLAINS ON MONDAY. THIS FEATURE WILL PUSH ACROSS THE SOUTHEAST U.S. AND FLORIDA ON TUESDAY WITH AN ASSOCIATED COLD FRONT. MOISTURE WILL BE LIMITED WITH ONLY A CHANCE OF SHOWERS. MUCH COOLER DRIER AIR WILL ADVECT ACROSS WEST CENTRAL AND SOUTHWEST FLORIDA ON NORTHWEST WINDS TUESDAY NIGHT AND WEDNESDAY AS SURFACE HIGH PRESSURE BUILDS OVER THE SOUTHEAST U.S. AND FLORIDA. TEMPERATURES WILL RUN NEAR CLIMATIC NORMALS SUNDAY AND MONDAY...DROPPING BELOW NORMAL TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY. && .AVIATION... FRONTAL BOUNDARY MOVING THROUGH THE AREA IS HELPING TO GENERATE SOME SCATTERED LIGHT SHOWERS. SHOWERS ARE MORE CONCENTRATED IN THE GULF WATERS BUT WILL PUSH IN THE VICINITY OF TAF SITES THROUGH THE AFTERNOON. VFR CONDITIONS TO GENERALLY PREVAIL THROUGH THE PERIOD BUT BRIEF MVFR CONDITIONS ARE POSSIBLE AT LAL WHERE SOME PATCHY FOG MAY DEVELOP. EXPECT FOG OVERNIGHT TO BE LIMITED ELSEWHERE WITH WINDS AROUND 5 KNOTS. && .MARINE... A WEAK COLD FRONT WILL SETTLE SOUTH OF THE FORECAST WATERS TONIGHT AND BE FOLLOWED BY HIGH PRESSURE BUILDING OF THE EASTERN GULF OF MEXICO FOR THE FINAL DAY OF THE WORK WEEK. THE RIDGE OF HIGH PRESSURE WILL REMAIN IN PLACE THROUGH THE UPCOMING WEEKEND KEEPING WINDS AND SEAS BELOW HEADLINE CRITERIA. && .FIRE WEATHER... A COOLER AND MUCH DRIER AIRMASS WILL FILTER INTO THE REGION TONIGHT AND EARLY FRIDAY IN THE WAKE OF A COLD FRONT. THIS DRIER AIRMASS WILL RESULT IN RELATIVE HUMIDITY VALUES DROPPING BELOW 35 PERCENT OVER A WIDE PORTION OF THE REGION FRIDAY AFTERNOON. THERE IS SOME QUESTION OF LOW LEVEL MOISTURE ALONG THE IMMEDIATE COAST BUT ELSEWHERE SEVERAL HOURS OF CRITICAL RH ARE EXPECTED. THESE LOW VALUES OF RH WILL COMBINE WITH ENERGY RELEASE COMPONENT NUMBERS OF 35 OR GREATER OVER INLAND SARASOTA AND LEE COUNTIES TO PRODUCE RED FLAG CONDITIONS. ELSEWHERE...DESPITE THE LOW RH VALUES...ERC VALUES ARE BELOW 35 AND WIND/DISPERSION INDICES WILL NOT SUPPORT RED FLAG CONDITIONS. INLAND LOCATIONS WILL ONCE AGAIN HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO SEE RH VALUES BRIEFLY DROP BELOW 35 PERCENT SATURDAY AFTERNOON. && .PRELIMINARY POINT TEMPS/POPS... TPA 59 78 61 83 / 10 0 0 0 FMY 62 81 59 83 / 20 10 0 0 GIF 55 80 57 83 / 10 0 0 0 SRQ 59 76 59 81 / 10 10 0 0 BKV 47 78 49 84 / 10 0 0 0 SPG 64 77 66 82 / 10 0 0 0 && .TBW WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... FL...RED FLAG WARNING FROM 1 PM TO 7 PM EDT FRIDAY FOR LEE- SARASOTA. GULF WATERS...NONE. && $$ SYNOPSIS/SHORT TERM/MARINE/FIRE WEATHER...MROCZKA LONG TERM...OGLESBY AVIATION...BARRON
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS TAMPA BAY RUSKIN FL
1045 AM EDT THU NOV 1 2012 .UPDATE (TODAY AND TONIGHT)... 14Z WATER VAPOR AND H4 RAP ANALYSIS SHOWING A CONTINUED AMPLIFIED UPPER LEVEL PATTERN OVER THE CONUS THIS MORNING. NORTHERN STREAM FLOW CONSISTS OF A SHARP TROUGH OVER THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST FOLLOWED DOWNSTREAM BY RIDING OVER THE INTER-MOUNTAIN WEST/CENTRAL PLAINS...AND THEN FINALLY BACK INTO A LARGE LONGWAVE TROUGH ALONG THE EASTERN SEABOARD. OUR FORECAST AREA RESIDES ON THE SOUTHWEST PERIPHERY OF THIS LONGWAVE TROUGH UNDER DEEP LAYER WEST/NW FLOW. 12Z KTBW SOUNDING PROFILE SHOWS A FAIRLY MOIST LOW LEVEL ENVIRONMENT BELOW AROUND 700MB UNDERNEATH VERY DRY MID-LEVELS. PW VALUES IS ONLY AROUND 1" WITH THIS PROFILE AND THIS OVERALL DRY AIRMASS WILL KEEP SHOWER DEPTH/STRENGTH IN CHECK TODAY. AT THE SURFACE...WEAK COLD FRONT/SURFACE TROUGH IS SINKING SOUTHWARD THROUGH THE REGION AS A RESULT OF YET ANOTHER WEAK SHORTWAVE DISTURBANCE ROTATING DOWN THE BACKSIDE OF THE EASTERN U.S. TROUGH. LOW LEVEL FOCUS ALONG THIS BOUNDARY COMBINED WITH A WEAK/NARROW ZONE OF SYNOPTIC SUPPORT/QG FORCING WITH THE SHORTWAVE WILL CONTINUE TO SUPPORT WIDELY SCATTERED SHOWERS. THESE SHOWERS WILL MIGRATE EASTWARD OFF THE GULF...BUT OVERALL RAIN CHANCES WILL BE LOW...AND FOR THOSE THAT DO SEE THE SHOWERS...THE DURATION OF RAIN WILL BE SHORT. LOOKING AT REGIONAL RADARS...IT APPEARS THAT THE DRY AIR ALOFT IS SOMEWHAT WINNING THE BATTLE AS THE SHOWER ACTIVITY ALREADY OUT THERE IS RATHER DISORGANIZED. ALTHOUGH THE SHOWERS ARE NOT ORGANIZED...THE MAIN CLOUD BAND AHEAD OF THE BOUNDARY IS FAIRLY ROBUST AND LOOKS TO PUT A SIGNIFICANT DENT IN THE AVAILABLE SUNSHINE INTO THE AFTERNOON HOURS FROM GENERALLY THE I-4 CORRIDOR SOUTHWARD. TONIGHT...BOUNDARY WILL SLIP INTO THE SOUTHERN FORECAST AREA OVERNIGHT AND BE SOUTH OF OUR REGION BY SUNRISE FRIDAY MORNING. A FEW ISOLATED SHOWERS WILL BE POSSIBLE SOUTH OF TAMPA BAY... ESPECIALLY DURING THE EVENING...BUT NOTHING THAT SHOULD SPOIL OUTDOOR PLANS. WILL END ALL SHOWER CHANCES OVER THE SOUTHERN ZONES BY FRIDAY MORNING. A REINFORCING SHOT OF DRY AND COOL AIR WILL BE FILTERING IN FROM THE NORTH TONIGHT IN THE WAKE OF THE FRONT ALLOWING NORMALLY COLDER SPOTS FROM BROOKSVILLE NORTHWARD TO POTENTIALLY REACH THE MID/UPPER 40S BY SUNRISE. LOWS WILL BE WARMER...MAINLY MID 50S TO 60S FURTHER SOUTH. && .PREVIOUS DISCUSSION (TODAY-SATURDAY)... THE REMNANTS OF SANDY OVER EASTERN CANADA...COMBINED WITH A DEEP UPPER LEVEL TROUGH ACROSS THE EASTERN CONUS CONTINUES TO INFLUENCE THE PRESSURE GRADIENT ACROSS FLORIDA. MID LEVEL ENERGY ASSOCIATED WITH A WEAK SURFACE BOUNDARY WILL SWING AROUND THE TROUGH AND INTO THE EASTERN GULF AND FLORIDA TODAY...INCREASING LOW LEVEL MOISTURE IN THE AREA. NAM CONTINUES TO OVER DO THE RAIN CHANCES FROM THIS SO WEIGHTED HEAVILY TOWARDS THE MORE REASONABLE GFS POPS. EXPECT CHANCE POPS FOR THE NORTHERN TWO THIRDS OF THE FORECAST AREA AND SLIGHT CHANCE POPS FOR MUCH OF THE SOUTHERN THIRD TODAY. FRIDAY...HIGH PRESSURE FROM THE GULF RENEWS ITS HOLD ON THE AREA WITH MUCH DRIER AIR MOVING IN AND MODEL PRECIPITABLE WATER VALUES DROPPING TO LESS THAN AN INCH FOR FRIDAY AND SATURDAY. WITH THE INCREASED SUBSIDENCE AND MOSTLY SUNNY SKIES...TEMPERATURES WILL INCREASE SLIGHTLY SATURDAY WITH HIGHS IN THE LOW TO MID 80S ACROSS THE AREA. && .AVIATION... A WEAK FRONTAL BOUNDARY IS SHIFTING SOUTH THROUGH THE PENINSULA. A FEW LIGHT SHOWERS ALONG THE LEADING EDGE OF THE FRONT WILL BE IN THE VICINITY OF TAF SITES THROUGH THE EARLY AFTERNOON. HOWEVER...VFR CONDITIONS WILL PREVAIL TODAY. MAY SEE SOME BRIEF MVFR VISBY TOMORROW MORNING BEFORE SUNRISE FROM PGD SOUTHWARD. && .MARINE... WINDS AND SEAS WILL CONTINUE TO DIMINISH AS HIGH PRESSURE STRENGTHENS OVER THE GULF. WINDS THIS AFTERNOON WILL INCREASE TO NEAR 15 KNOTS. SHOWERS WILL BE POSSIBLE TODAY AS A WEAK BOUNDARY MOVES ACROSS THE REGION...THEN DRIER CONDITIONS WILL RETURN FRIDAY. && .PRELIMINARY POINT TEMPS/POPS... TPA 78 59 78 63 / 30 10 0 0 FMY 81 63 81 60 / 30 20 10 10 GIF 80 57 79 58 / 30 10 0 0 SRQ 79 60 79 59 / 40 10 10 10 BKV 79 49 79 51 / 30 10 0 0 SPG 78 63 78 67 / 40 10 0 0 && .TBW WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... FL...NONE. GULF WATERS...NONE. && $$ UPDATE...MROCZKA AVIATION...BARRON PREVIOUS DISCUSSION...FLEMING
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS CHICAGO/ROMEOVILLE IL
954 PM CDT FRI NOV 2 2012 .DISCUSSION... 329 PM CDT MAIN FORECAST CHALLENGES ARE WITH PERSISTENT LAKE EFFECT CLOUD COVER AS WELL AS POSSIBLE LIGHT RAIN SHOWERS. CURRENT SATELLITE IMAGERY CONTINUES TO SHOW LAKE EFFECT CLOUD COVER TO MOVE DOWN LAKE MICHIGAN THIS AFTERNOON AND SPILLING INTO NORTHWEST INDIANA...AS HIGH LEVEL CLOUD COVER CONTINUES TO WORK ITS WAY EAST ACROSS NORTHERN ILLINOIS. MEANWHILE...RADAR IMAGERY DEPICTING SOME LIGHT SHOWERS ALSO STILL DEVELOPING OVER THE SOUTHERN HALF OF THE LAKE AND MOVING INTO PORTER COUNTY IN NORTHWEST INDIANA. THESE LIGHT SHOWERS ARE DUE IN PART TO A LONG FETCH DOWN THE LAKE WITH SUFFICIENT DELTA TS AND CONVERGENCE NOTED ON OBS/LATEST RAP ANALYSIS. EXPECT THESE SHOWERS TO CONTINUE THIS AFTERNOON AND POSSIBLY INTO THIS EVENING WITH A SLIGHT SHIFT MORE WESTWARD INTO LAKE COUNTY IN NORTHWEST INDIANA AS BOUNDARY LAYER SHIFTS MORE NORTH/NORTHEAST. ALTHOUGH DURING THIS TIME...LATEST FORECAST SOUNDINGS OVER THE LAKE SHOWING SOME WARMING IN THE COLUMN AND A LOWERING OF EQUILIBRIUM HEIGHTS. THIS SHOULD HELP TO STIFLE THE DEVELOPMENT WHICH WE HAVE SEEN ALL DAY...WITH ONLY PRIMARILY LAKE EFFECT CLOUD COVER CONTINUING TO DEVELOP. ALTHOUGH...THERE IS SOME HIGH RES GUIDANCE THAT DOES INDICATE SOME PERSISTENT LIGHT QPF ACROSS THE LAKE AND NEAR THE SHORES TONIGHT AND INTO SATURDAY MORNING...BUT AM NOT COMPLETELY SOLD ON THIS IDEA AS OF YET DUE TO THE PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED WARMING TRENDS. SO HAVE SLIGHT CHANCE POPS GOING INTO THIS EVENING BUT THEN DECREASE OVERNIGHT INTO SATURDAY. IF THERE WERE TO BE ANY SHOWERS TO DEVELOP IT WOULD BE IN THE FORM OF SPRINKLES...FORMING ON THE FRINGE OF BUILDING HIGH PRESSURE. CURRENT WAA ACROSS THE PLAINS WILL SLOWLY SHIFT EAST INTO CENTRAL ILLINOIS TONIGHT OUT AHEAD OF A MID LEVEL TROUGH/SURFACE LOW TO THE WEST. THIS SHOULD HELP CLOUD COVER TO CONTINUE TO SPREAD EAST ACROSS THE ENTIRE CWA TONIGHT...WITH PARTLY CLOUDY SKIES BECOMING MORE CLOUDY. IT DOES APPEAR THE EXTENT OF THE WAA IS WEAKER TONIGHT AND MORE DEFINED FURTHER SOUTH...WITH ANY PRECIP THAT DEVELOPS TONIGHT IN RESPONSE TO THIS FORCING TO STAY SOUTH OF THE CWA. THIS TROUGH/SURFACE REFLECTION WILL CONTINUE EAST ON SATURDAY WITH SOME OF THIS MOISTURE TRYING TO INCH ITS WAY FURTHER NORTH...WITH A SLIGHT CHANCE FOR SHOWERS ON SATURDAY MAINLY ACROSS THE FAR SOUTHERN TIER OF THE CWA. AS HIGHER PRESSURE BUILDS OVERHEAD THROUGH THE REMAINDER OF THE WEEKEND...EXPECT DRY CONDITIONS WITH SIMILAR TEMPS IN THE 40S FOR SATURDAY AND SUNDAY. ALTHOUGH WITH SEVERAL MID LEVEL FEATURES TRAVERSING THE REGION...SOME MID LEVEL MOISTURE SHOULD MOVE OVERHEAD AND BRING SOME CLOUDY CONDITIONS ACROSS THE CWA THIS WEEKEND. RODRIGUEZ && .AVIATION... //ORD AND MDW CONCERNS...UPDATED 03Z... * LAKE EFFECT MVFR CIGS AND POTENTIAL -SHRA OR SPRINKLES OVERNIGHT INTO SATURDAY IZZI //DISCUSSION...UPDATED 00Z... LOW LEVEL FLOW WILL SYNOPTICALLY TURN MORE NORTHEASTERLY OVERNIGHT AND SHOULD SEND PLUME OF LAKE EFFECT CLOUDS AND SCTD -SHRA PIVOTING WEST AROUND THE SOUTHERN RIM OF THE LAKE. WITH INVERSION HEIGHTS FORECAST TO LOWER A BIT CONFIDENCE IS NOT HIGH ON WHETHER SHRA WILL SURVIVE OVERNIGHT...BUT EVEN IF THEY DO SURVIVE IMPACT SHOULD BE MINIMAL ON OPERATIONS. LAKE EFFECT CIGS LOOK PROBABLE WITH BASES LIKELY HIGHER END MVFR...SHOULD SEE SOME TREND TOWARD A DIURNAL SCATTERING OUT OF CIGS SATURDAY AFTERNOON. WINDS SHOULD REMAIN LIGHT NORTHEASTERLY THROUGH THE PERIOD. IZZI //ORD AND MDW CONFIDENCE...UPDATED 03Z... * MEDIUM CONFIDENCE ON CIGS * LOW CONFIDENCE ON RAIN CHANCES * HIGH CONFIDENCE IN ALL OTHER ELEMENTS IZZI //OUTLOOK FOR ORD/MDW FOR 12Z SUNDAY-12Z FRIDAY...UPDATED 00Z... SUNDAY...AM MVFR CIGS POSSIBLE...OTHERWISE VFR. MONDAY...VFR. TUESDAY...SLIGHT CHANCE OF -SHRA. MVFR POSSIBLE. WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAY...VFR. IZZI && .MARINE... 217 PM CDT BROAD AREA OF LOW PRESSURE CENTERED ACROSS NORTHEAST QUEBEC WILL CONTINUE TO WEAKEN THE INFLUENCE ACROSS THE WESTERN GREAT LAKES THROUGH TONIGHT INTO SATURDAY...MEANWHILE A RIDGE OF HIGH PRESSURE REMAINS CENTERED ACROSS WESTERN ONTARIO STRETCHING SOUTH THROUGH THE UPPER MISSISSIPPII VALLEY. THIS RIDGE WILL REMAIN NEARLY STATIONARY...WHICH WILL ALLOW A PROLONGED PERIOD OF NORTH FLOW ACROSS LAKE MICHIGAN. GUIDANCE HAS INDICATED THAT A DECENT GRADIENT WILL REMAIN ACROSS LAKE MICHIGAN THROUGH TONIGHT...AND POSSIBLY CONTINUE THROUGH SATURDAY. THIS WILL MOST LIKELY KEEP WINDS UP IN THE 20 TO 25 KT CATEGORY. THE COMBINATION OF CONTINUED COLD AIR...NORTH WINDS AND RELATIVELY WARM LAKE MICHIGAN WATERS WILL RESULT IN WAVES REMAINING ELEVATED. BASED ON THIS SETUP HAVE OPTED TO CONTINUE THE SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY THROUGH TONIGHT AND INTO AT LEAST MID MORNING SATURDAY. BY LATE SATURDAY MORNING WAVES IN THE NEARSHORE SHOULD SUBSIDE ENOUGH TO ALLOW THE ADVISORY TO COME DOWN. GUIDANCE WAS ALSO INDICATING THAT WINDS MAY BEGIN TO TURN NORTHEAST THROUGH A PERIOD OF TIME SATURDAY AFTERNOON/EVENING...AND DIMINISH TO SPEEDS AROUND 10 TO 20 KT. A WEAK AREA OF LOW PRESSURE IS NOW EXPECTED TO PASS WELL SOUTH OF SOUTHERN LAKE MICHIGAN...HOWEVER WINDS ACROSS THE SOUTHERN TIP OF THE LAKE MAY TURN MORE EASTERLY. IF THIS SCENARIO DEVELOPS THE WAVES MAY REMAIN CHOPPY OR CLOSE TO SMALL CRAFT CONDITIONS THROUGH SATURDAY AFTERNOON FOR THE CHICAGO HARBOR AREA. HIGH PRESSURE BY THE END OF THE WEEKEND WILL DRIFT EAST AND ALLOW WINDS TO CONTINUE TO DIMINISH AND TURN EAST THEN SOUTH BY EARLY NEXT WEEK. A LOW PRESSURE IS EXPECTED TO SLIDE ACROSS WESTERN ONTARIO WITH AN INCREASING GRADIENT AND GUSTY WINDS BY TUESDAY. THIS WILL ALLOW WAVES TO STEADILY BUILD AGAIN LATE MONDAY THROUGH TUESDAY. BEACHLER && .LOT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... IL...NONE. IN...NONE. LM...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY...NEARSHORE WATERS UNTIL 11 AM SATURDAY. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS CHICAGO/ROMEOVILLE IL
650 PM CDT FRI NOV 2 2012 .DISCUSSION... 329 PM CDT MAIN FORECAST CHALLENGES ARE WITH PERSISTENT LAKE EFFECT CLOUD COVER AS WELL AS POSSIBLE LIGHT RAIN SHOWERS. CURRENT SATELLITE IMAGERY CONTINUES TO SHOW LAKE EFFECT CLOUD COVER TO MOVE DOWN LAKE MICHIGAN THIS AFTERNOON AND SPILLING INTO NORTHWEST INDIANA...AS HIGH LEVEL CLOUD COVER CONTINUES TO WORK ITS WAY EAST ACROSS NORTHERN ILLINOIS. MEANWHILE...RADAR IMAGERY DEPICTING SOME LIGHT SHOWERS ALSO STILL DEVELOPING OVER THE SOUTHERN HALF OF THE LAKE AND MOVING INTO PORTER COUNTY IN NORTHWEST INDIANA. THESE LIGHT SHOWERS ARE DUE IN PART TO A LONG FETCH DOWN THE LAKE WITH SUFFICIENT DELTA TS AND CONVERGENCE NOTED ON OBS/LATEST RAP ANALYSIS. EXPECT THESE SHOWERS TO CONTINUE THIS AFTERNOON AND POSSIBLY INTO THIS EVENING WITH A SLIGHT SHIFT MORE WESTWARD INTO LAKE COUNTY IN NORTHWEST INDIANA AS BOUNDARY LAYER SHIFTS MORE NORTH/NORTHEAST. ALTHOUGH DURING THIS TIME...LATEST FORECAST SOUNDINGS OVER THE LAKE SHOWING SOME WARMING IN THE COLUMN AND A LOWERING OF EQUILIBRIUM HEIGHTS. THIS SHOULD HELP TO STIFLE THE DEVELOPMENT WHICH WE HAVE SEEN ALL DAY...WITH ONLY PRIMARILY LAKE EFFECT CLOUD COVER CONTINUING TO DEVELOP. ALTHOUGH...THERE IS SOME HIGH RES GUIDANCE THAT DOES INDICATE SOME PERSISTENT LIGHT QPF ACROSS THE LAKE AND NEAR THE SHORES TONIGHT AND INTO SATURDAY MORNING...BUT AM NOT COMPLETELY SOLD ON THIS IDEA AS OF YET DUE TO THE PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED WARMING TRENDS. SO HAVE SLIGHT CHANCE POPS GOING INTO THIS EVENING BUT THEN DECREASE OVERNIGHT INTO SATURDAY. IF THERE WERE TO BE ANY SHOWERS TO DEVELOP IT WOULD BE IN THE FORM OF SPRINKLES...FORMING ON THE FRINGE OF BUILDING HIGH PRESSURE. CURRENT WAA ACROSS THE PLAINS WILL SLOWLY SHIFT EAST INTO CENTRAL ILLINOIS TONIGHT OUT AHEAD OF A MID LEVEL TROUGH/SURFACE LOW TO THE WEST. THIS SHOULD HELP CLOUD COVER TO CONTINUE TO SPREAD EAST ACROSS THE ENTIRE CWA TONIGHT...WITH PARTLY CLOUDY SKIES BECOMING MORE CLOUDY. IT DOES APPEAR THE EXTENT OF THE WAA IS WEAKER TONIGHT AND MORE DEFINED FURTHER SOUTH...WITH ANY PRECIP THAT DEVELOPS TONIGHT IN RESPONSE TO THIS FORCING TO STAY SOUTH OF THE CWA. THIS TROUGH/SURFACE REFLECTION WILL CONTINUE EAST ON SATURDAY WITH SOME OF THIS MOISTURE TRYING TO INCH ITS WAY FURTHER NORTH...WITH A SLIGHT CHANCE FOR SHOWERS ON SATURDAY MAINLY ACROSS THE FAR SOUTHERN TIER OF THE CWA. AS HIGHER PRESSURE BUILDS OVERHEAD THROUGH THE REMAINDER OF THE WEEKEND...EXPECT DRY CONDITIONS WITH SIMILAR TEMPS IN THE 40S FOR SATURDAY AND SUNDAY. ALTHOUGH WITH SEVERAL MID LEVEL FEATURES TRAVERSING THE REGION...SOME MID LEVEL MOISTURE SHOULD MOVE OVERHEAD AND BRING SOME CLOUDY CONDITIONS ACROSS THE CWA THIS WEEKEND. RODRIGUEZ && .AVIATION... //ORD AND MDW CONCERNS...UPDATED 00Z... * LAKE EFFECT MVFR CIGS AND POTENTIAL -SHRA OR SPRINKLES OVERNIGHT INTO SATURDAY IZZI //DISCUSSION...UPDATED 00Z... LOW LEVEL FLOW WILL SYNOPTICALLY TURN MORE NORTHEASTERLY OVERNIGHT AND SHOULD SEND PLUME OF LAKE EFFECT CLOUDS AND SCTD -SHRA PIVOTING WEST AROUND THE SOUTHERN RIM OF THE LAKE. WITH INVERSION HEIGHTS FORECAST TO LOWER A BIT CONFIDENCE IS NOT HIGH ON WHETHER SHRA WILL SURVIVE OVERNIGHT...BUT EVEN IF THEY DO SURVIVE IMPACT SHOULD BE MINIMAL ON OPERATIONS. LAKE EFFECT CIGS LOOK PROBABLE WITH BASES LIKELY HIGHER END MVFR...SHOULD SEE SOME TREND TOWARD A DIURNAL SCATTERING OUT OF CIGS SATURDAY AFTERNOON. WINDS SHOULD REMAIN LIGHT NORTHEASTERLY THROUGH THE PERIOD. IZZI //ORD AND MDW CONFIDENCE...UPDATED 00Z... * MEDIUM CONFIDENCE ON CIGS * LOW CONFIDENCE ON RAIN CHANCES * HIGH CONFIDENCE IN ALL OTHER ELEMENTS IZZI //OUTLOOK FOR ORD/MDW FOR 12Z SUNDAY-12Z FRIDAY...UPDATED 00Z... SUNDAY...AM MVFR CIGS POSSIBLE...OTHERWISE VFR. MONDAY...VFR. TUESDAY...SLIGHT CHANCE OF -SHRA. MVFR POSSIBLE. WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAY...VFR. IZZI && .MARINE... 217 PM CDT BROAD AREA OF LOW PRESSURE CENTERED ACROSS NORTHEAST QUEBEC WILL CONTINUE TO WEAKEN THE INFLUENCE ACROSS THE WESTERN GREAT LAKES THROUGH TONIGHT INTO SATURDAY...MEANWHILE A RIDGE OF HIGH PRESSURE REMAINS CENTERED ACROSS WESTERN ONTARIO STRETCHING SOUTH THROUGH THE UPPER MISSISSIPPII VALLEY. THIS RIDGE WILL REMAIN NEARLY STATIONARY...WHICH WILL ALLOW A PROLONGED PERIOD OF NORTH FLOW ACROSS LAKE MICHIGAN. GUIDANCE HAS INDICATED THAT A DECENT GRADIENT WILL REMAIN ACROSS LAKE MICHIGAN THROUGH TONIGHT...AND POSSIBLY CONTINUE THROUGH SATURDAY. THIS WILL MOST LIKELY KEEP WINDS UP IN THE 20 TO 25 KT CATEGORY. THE COMBINATION OF CONTINUED COLD AIR...NORTH WINDS AND RELATIVELY WARM LAKE MICHIGAN WATERS WILL RESULT IN WAVES REMAINING ELEVATED. BASED ON THIS SETUP HAVE OPTED TO CONTINUE THE SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY THROUGH TONIGHT AND INTO AT LEAST MID MORNING SATURDAY. BY LATE SATURDAY MORNING WAVES IN THE NEARSHORE SHOULD SUBSIDE ENOUGH TO ALLOW THE ADVISORY TO COME DOWN. GUIDANCE WAS ALSO INDICATING THAT WINDS MAY BEGIN TO TURN NORTHEAST THROUGH A PERIOD OF TIME SATURDAY AFTERNOON/EVENING...AND DIMINISH TO SPEEDS AROUND 10 TO 20 KT. A WEAK AREA OF LOW PRESSURE IS NOW EXPECTED TO PASS WELL SOUTH OF SOUTHERN LAKE MICHIGAN...HOWEVER WINDS ACROSS THE SOUTHERN TIP OF THE LAKE MAY TURN MORE EASTERLY. IF THIS SCENARIO DEVELOPS THE WAVES MAY REMAIN CHOPPY OR CLOSE TO SMALL CRAFT CONDITIONS THROUGH SATURDAY AFTERNOON FOR THE CHICAGO HARBOR AREA. HIGH PRESSURE BY THE END OF THE WEEKEND WILL DRIFT EAST AND ALLOW WINDS TO CONTINUE TO DIMINISH AND TURN EAST THEN SOUTH BY EARLY NEXT WEEK. A LOW PRESSURE IS EXPECTED TO SLIDE ACROSS WESTERN ONTARIO WITH AN INCREASING GRADIENT AND GUSTY WINDS BY TUESDAY. THIS WILL ALLOW WAVES TO STEADILY BUILD AGAIN LATE MONDAY THROUGH TUESDAY. BEACHLER && .LOT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... IL...NONE. IN...NONE. LM...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY...NEARSHORE WATERS UNTIL 11 AM SATURDAY. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS GOODLAND KS
1139 AM MDT THU NOV 1 2012 .SHORT TERM...(TODAY THROUGH SATURDAY NIGHT) ISSUED AT 227 AM MDT THU NOV 1 2012 FORECAST CONCERNS WILL BE TEMPERATURE FORECAST INTO THE THE BEGINNING OF THE WEEKEND AND FIRE WEATHER ISSUES TODAY AND FRIDAY. SATELLITE SHOWING AN AMPLIFIED PATTERN FROM THE PACIFIC INTO THE CENTRAL ATLANTIC. VERY LARGE AND COMPLEX UPPER TROUGH OVER THE NORTHEAST PACIFIC AND STRONG SYSTEM MOVING OUT OF THE EASTERN UNITED STATES. IN BETWEEN IS A STRONG RIDGE WHICH IS IN ADVANCE OF A RATHER STRONG SYSTEM BEGINNING TO MOVE ONSHORE. AT JET LEVEL THE MODELS INITIALIZED FINE. AT MID LEVELS...THE MODELS WERE CLOSE WITH MAYBE BEING A LITTLE TOO FAR EAST WITH THE UPPER HEIGHT FIELD. SATELLITE WOULD INDICATE THAT THE ECMWF WAS DOING A LITTLE BETTER THAN THE GFS AND NAM. THE NAM AND ECMWF WERE DOING ABOUT THE SAME ON THE LOW LEVEL WIND AND PRESSURE FIELD. THE MODELS TENDED TO BE A LITTLE COOL ON THE LOW LEVEL THERMAL FIELD WITH THE CANADIAN AND UKMET DOING THE BEST. TODAY/TONIGHT...FRONT AND ITS ASSOCIATED STRATUS ARE MOVING IN FROM THE NORTH. THE RUC...WHICH LOOKS TO BE CATCHING THIS NICELY...AND THE HRRR SHOW THE STRATUS TO STAY NORTH AND EAST OF THE AREA. OTHERWISE LITTLE TO NO CLOUD COVER EXPECTED. SURFACE RIDGING/SOME COOLING FROM THE FRONT LOOK TO AFFECT THE NORTHEAST HALF. GOING BY TEMPERATURE CHANGE AT 850 MB FROM YESTERDAY...CURRENT BIAS...AND TEMPERATURE GUIDANCE THAT HAS BEEN PERFORMING THE BEST LATELY SUPPORT A SLIGHT RISE IN MAXES IN THE WEST. WILL WATCH THE PROGRESS OF THE STRATUS AND FRONT FOR AS LONG AS POSSIBLE TO MAKE ANY ADJUSTMENTS TO THIS. HIGHEST 3 HOUR PRESSURE FALLS AND TIGHTEST GRADIENT OCCUR IN THE WESTERN THIRD OF THE AREA. SO WINDS COULD GET INTO THE BREEZY CATEGORY IN THIS AREA. LOOK TO GET DOWNSLOPE AND WARM AIR ADVECTION IN ADVANCE OF THE FRONT. FRONT STARTS MOVING IN LATE OVER THE WESTERN AND CENTRAL PORTIONS OF THE AREA BY LATE IN THE NIGHT WITH SCATTERED TO BROKEN CIRRUS EXPECTED. LOOKS TO BE A PERIOD OF LIGHT WINDS IN THE EASTERN PORTION AND WILL MAKE THE MINS COOLEST HERE. FRIDAY/FRIDAY NIGHT...FRONT BLASTS THROUGH THE AREA BY 18Z WITH STEADY OR SLIGHTLY FALLING 850 MB TEMPERATURES IN THE AFTERNOON. RIGHT REAR QUADRANT OF UPPER JET MOVES ACROSS DURING THE AFTERNOON AND NIGHT. THIS LOOKS TO PRODUCE THICK MID AND UPPER LEVEL CLOUD COVER ACROSS THE AREA DURING THE DAY AND COULD HINDER THE HEATING. MODEL GUIDANCE NOT TOO DIFFERENT FROM EACH OTHER AND CURRENT FORECAST AND MADE ONLY SLIGHT ADJUSTMENTS. PRESSURE GRADIENT SUPPORTS BREEZY CONDITIONS. SATURDAY/SATURDAY NIGHT...WILL HAVE A COOL START TO THE DAY. ALSO SURFACE RIDGE WILL NOT BE TOO FAR AWAY. THERE APPEARS TO NOT BE TOO MUCH CLOUD COVER. GOING BY TEMPERATURE CHANGE FROM THE PREVIOUS COUPLE OF DAYS...THE 850 MB TEMPERATURE BIAS...AND LATEST 2 METER/NWP GUIDANCE SUPPORTS LITTLE IF ANY CHANGE TO THE CURRENT MAX TEMPERATURES. COULD BE SOME CLOUD COVER AROUND AS NEXT SURFACE TROUGH MOVES THROUGH DURING THE NIGHT. WINDS COULD DROP OFF TO ALLOW FOR COOLER MINS. .LONG TERM...(SUNDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY) ISSUED AT 227 AM MDT THU NOV 1 2012 MODEL CONSENSUS IS INDICATING THAT A RIDGE OF HIGH PRESSURE WILL DEVELOP OVER THE ROCKY MOUNTAINS EARLY NEXT WEEK. THIS RIDGE OF HIGH PRESSURE WILL BUILD INTO THE PLAINS BY THE MIDDLE OF THE WEEK. THE HIGH WILL BLOCK ANY WEATHER SYSTEMS FROM MOVING INTO THE TRI-STATE AREA...THUS KEEPING THE WEATHER DRY. TEMPERATURES WILL BEGIN TO REBOUND DURING THE EARLY PORTIONS OF NEXT WEEK. ABOVE NORMAL TEMPERATURES ARE EXPECTED FOR THE MAJORITY OF NEXT WEEK AS A RESULT OF THE RIDGE...CLEAR SKIES AND NO MAJOR AIR MASS CHANGES. SOUTH WINDS WILL BRING A SLIGHT INCREASE IN MOISTURE ACROSS THE REGION DURING THE MIDDLE OF THE WEEK. THE BRUNT OF THE MOISTURE SHOULD STAY TO THE EAST HOWEVER. MODELS ARE IN PRETTY GOOD AGREEMENT IN THE LONG TERM. BOTH THE EUROPEAN AND GFS MODELS INDICATE THAT THE RIDGE OF HIGH PRESSURE WILL BEGIN SHIFTING TO THE EAST BY THE END OF THE PERIOD. && .AVIATION...(FOR THE 18Z TAFS THROUGH 18Z FRIDAY AFTERNOON) ISSUED AT 1139 AM MDT THU NOV 1 2012 VFR CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED TO PREVAIL THRU THE TAF PERIOD AT BOTH MCK AND GLD. BREEZY SOUTHERLY WINDS WILL DEVELOP THIS AFTERNOON AT GLD DUE TO A SURFACE TROUGH OVER EASTERN COLORADO...GUSTING TO 24KTS. AT MCK WINDS WILL BE LIGHT OUT OF THE SOUTH-SOUTHWEST DURING THE DAY AND OVERNIGHT. A COLD FRONT WILL APPROACH FROM THE NORTH TOMORROW...BRINGING WINDS OUT OF THE NORTH AT 15 TO 20KTS BE LATE MORNING. WHILE HIGH CLOUDS WILL INCREASE OVER THE PERIOD...THERE IS LITTLE CHANCE FOR PRECIPITATION DUE TO A LACK OF MOISTURE. && .FIRE WEATHER... ISSUED AT 227 AM MDT THU NOV 1 2012 FOR TODAY...MODEL DIFFERENCES IN HOW LOW THE DEWPOINTS GO. THIS COMPLICATED BY INCOMING FRONT. BASED ON LATEST OBSERVATIONS AND 00Z OBSERVED AND FORECAST SOUNDINGS...BELIEVE MIXING WILL OCCUR BETTER THAN WHAT THE MODELS INDICATE AT THIS TIME. SO BELIEVE THE DEWPOINTS WILL BE LOWER NEAR THE COLORADO BORDER. QUESTION THEN BECOMES IF WINDS WILL BE STRONG ENOUGH FOR LONG ENOUGH IN THIS SAME AREA. GRADIENT...3 HOUR PRESSURE FALLS...BUFKIT...AND LOCAL WIND GUST PROGRAM SUPPORT GUSTS NEAR 25 MPH IN LOCATIONS ALONG THE COLORADO BORDER. THIS LOOKS TO BE MARGINAL FOR A RED FLAG WARNING AND WILL BE CLOSE. SO AT THIS TIME...DO NOT PLAN ON ISSUING ANY FIRE WEATHER HIGHLIGHTS BUT WILL CONTINUE TO WATCH CLOSELY. FOR FRIDAY...THE WINDS WILL DEFINITELY BE GUSTY IN THE 25 TO 30 MPH RANGE. HOWEVER...RELATIVE HUMIDITY STAYS ABOVE 20 PERCENT. SO WILL NOT BE ISSUING ANY HIGHLIGHT FOR THIS DAY. && .GLD WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... KS...NONE. CO...NONE. NE...NONE. && $$ SHORT TERM...BULLER LONG TERM...RRH AVIATION...JJM/LOCKHART FIRE WEATHER...BULLER
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS GOODLAND KS
531 AM MDT THU NOV 1 2012 .SHORT TERM...(TODAY THROUGH SATURDAY NIGHT) ISSUED AT 227 AM MDT THU NOV 1 2012 FORECAST CONCERNS WILL BE TEMPERATURE FORECAST INTO THE THE BEGINNING OF THE WEEKEND AND FIRE WEATHER ISSUES TODAY AND FRIDAY. SATELLITE SHOWING AN AMPLIFIED PATTERN FROM THE PACIFIC INTO THE CENTRAL ATLANTIC. VERY LARGE AND COMPLEX UPPER TROUGH OVER THE NORTHEAST PACIFIC AND STRONG SYSTEM MOVING OUT OF THE EASTERN UNITED STATES. IN BETWEEN IS A STRONG RIDGE WHICH IS IN ADVANCE OF A RATHER STRONG SYSTEM BEGINNING TO MOVE ONSHORE. AT JET LEVEL THE MODELS INITIALIZED FINE. AT MID LEVELS...THE MODELS WERE CLOSE WITH MAYBE BEING A LITTLE TOO FAR EAST WITH THE UPPER HEIGHT FIELD. SATELLITE WOULD INDICATE THAT THE ECMWF WAS DOING A LITTLE BETTER THAN THE GFS AND NAM. THE NAM AND ECMWF WERE DOING ABOUT THE SAME ON THE LOW LEVEL WIND AND PRESSURE FIELD. THE MODELS TENDED TO BE A LITTLE COOL ON THE LOW LEVEL THERMAL FIELD WITH THE CANADIAN AND UKMET DOING THE BEST. TODAY/TONIGHT...FRONT AND ITS ASSOCIATED STRATUS ARE MOVING IN FROM THE NORTH. THE RUC...WHICH LOOKS TO BE CATCHING THIS NICELY...AND THE HRRR SHOW THE STRATUS TO STAY NORTH AND EAST OF THE AREA. OTHERWISE LITTLE TO NO CLOUD COVER EXPECTED. SURFACE RIDGING/SOME COOLING FROM THE FRONT LOOK TO AFFECT THE NORTHEAST HALF. GOING BY TEMPERATURE CHANGE AT 850 MB FROM YESTERDAY...CURRENT BIAS...AND TEMPERATURE GUIDANCE THAT HAS BEEN PERFORMING THE BEST LATELY SUPPORT A SLIGHT RISE IN MAXES IN THE WEST. WILL WATCH THE PROGRESS OF THE STRATUS AND FRONT FOR AS LONG AS POSSIBLE TO MAKE ANY ADJUSTMENTS TO THIS. HIGHEST 3 HOUR PRESSURE FALLS AND TIGHTEST GRADIENT OCCUR IN THE WESTERN THIRD OF THE AREA. SO WINDS COULD GET INTO THE BREEZY CATEGORY IN THIS AREA. LOOK TO GET DOWNSLOPE AND WARM AIR ADVECTION IN ADVANCE OF THE FRONT. FRONT STARTS MOVING IN LATE OVER THE WESTERN AND CENTRAL PORTIONS OF THE AREA BY LATE IN THE NIGHT WITH SCATTERED TO BROKEN CIRRUS EXPECTED. LOOKS TO BE A PERIOD OF LIGHT WINDS IN THE EASTERN PORTION AND WILL MAKE THE MINS COOLEST HERE. FRIDAY/FRIDAY NIGHT...FRONT BLASTS THROUGH THE AREA BY 18Z WITH STEADY OR SLIGHTLY FALLING 850 MB TEMPERATURES IN THE AFTERNOON. RIGHT REAR QUADRANT OF UPPER JET MOVES ACROSS DURING THE AFTERNOON AND NIGHT. THIS LOOKS TO PRODUCE THICK MID AND UPPER LEVEL CLOUD COVER ACROSS THE AREA DURING THE DAY AND COULD HINDER THE HEATING. MODEL GUIDANCE NOT TOO DIFFERENT FROM EACH OTHER AND CURRENT FORECAST AND MADE ONLY SLIGHT ADJUSTMENTS. PRESSURE GRADIENT SUPPORTS BREEZY CONDITIONS. SATURDAY/SATURDAY NIGHT...WILL HAVE A COOL START TO THE DAY. ALSO SURFACE RIDGE WILL NOT BE TOO FAR AWAY. THERE APPEARS TO NOT BE TOO MUCH CLOUD COVER. GOING BY TEMPERATURE CHANGE FROM THE PREVIOUS COUPLE OF DAYS...THE 850 MB TEMPERATURE BIAS...AND LATEST 2 METER/NWP GUIDANCE SUPPORTS LITTLE IF ANY CHANGE TO THE CURRENT MAX TEMPERATURES. COULD BE SOME CLOUD COVER AROUND AS NEXT SURFACE TROUGH MOVES THROUGH DURING THE NIGHT. WINDS COULD DROP OFF TO ALLOW FOR COOLER MINS. .LONG TERM...(SUNDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY) ISSUED AT 227 AM MDT THU NOV 1 2012 MODEL CONSENSUS IS INDICATING THAT A RIDGE OF HIGH PRESSURE WILL DEVELOP OVER THE ROCKY MOUNTAINS EARLY NEXT WEEK. THIS RIDGE OF HIGH PRESSURE WILL BUILD INTO THE PLAINS BY THE MIDDLE OF THE WEEK. THE HIGH WILL BLOCK ANY WEATHER SYSTEMS FROM MOVING INTO THE TRI-STATE AREA...THUS KEEPING THE WEATHER DRY. TEMPERATURES WILL BEGIN TO REBOUND DURING THE EARLY PORTIONS OF NEXT WEEK. ABOVE NORMAL TEMPERATURES ARE EXPECTED FOR THE MAJORITY OF NEXT WEEK AS A RESULT OF THE RIDGE...CLEAR SKIES AND NO MAJOR AIR MASS CHANGES. SOUTH WINDS WILL BRING A SLIGHT INCREASE IN MOISTURE ACROSS THE REGION DURING THE MIDDLE OF THE WEEK. THE BRUNT OF THE MOISTURE SHOULD STAY TO THE EAST HOWEVER. MODELS ARE IN PRETTY GOOD AGREEMENT IN THE LONG TERM. BOTH THE EUROPEAN AND GFS MODELS INDICATE THAT THE RIDGE OF HIGH PRESSURE WILL BEGIN SHIFTING TO THE EAST BY THE END OF THE PERIOD. && .AVIATION...(FOR THE 12Z TAFS THROUGH 12Z FRIDAY MORNING) ISSUED AT 528 AM MDT THU NOV 1 2012 VFR CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED THROUGH THE PERIOD. THE STRATUS FIELD OVER NEBRASKA WILL STAY TO THE NORTH AND EAST OF KMCK. LIGHT AND VARIABLE WINDS WILL SHIFT TO THE SOUTH AND SOUTHEAST. THOSE WINDS WILL BE GUSTY AT KGLD. FROM LATE AFTERNOON INTO THE OVERNIGHT HOURS THE WINDS WILL BE LIGHT AND SHIFTING IN ADVANCE OF A COLD FRONT. && .FIRE WEATHER... ISSUED AT 227 AM MDT THU NOV 1 2012 FOR TODAY...MODEL DIFFERENCES IN HOW LOW THE DEWPOINTS GO. THIS COMPLICATED BY INCOMING FRONT. BASED ON LATEST OBSERVATIONS AND 00Z OBSERVED AND FORECAST SOUNDINGS...BELIEVE MIXING WILL OCCUR BETTER THAN WHAT THE MODELS INDICATE AT THIS TIME. SO BELIEVE THE DEWPOINTS WILL BE LOWER NEAR THE COLORADO BORDER. QUESTION THEN BECOMES IF WINDS WILL BE STRONG ENOUGH FOR LONG ENOUGH IN THIS SAME AREA. GRADIENT...3 HOUR PRESSURE FALLS...BUFKIT...AND LOCAL WIND GUST PROGRAM SUPPORT GUSTS NEAR 25 MPH IN LOCATIONS ALONG THE COLORADO BORDER. THIS LOOKS TO BE MARGINAL FOR A RED FLAG WARNING AND WILL BE CLOSE. SO AT THIS TIME...DO NOT PLAN ON ISSUING ANY FIRE WEATHER HIGHLIGHTS BUT WILL CONTINUE TO WATCH CLOSELY. FOR FRIDAY...THE WINDS WILL DEFINITELY BE GUSTY IN THE 25 TO 30 MPH RANGE. HOWEVER...RELATIVE HUMIDITY STAYS ABOVE 20 PERCENT. SO WILL NOT BE ISSUING ANY HIGHLIGHT FOR THIS DAY. && .GLD WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... KS...NONE. CO...NONE. NE...NONE. && $$ SHORT TERM...BULLER LONG TERM...RRH AVIATION...BULLER FIRE WEATHER...BULLER
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS GOODLAND KS
227 AM MDT THU NOV 1 2012 .SHORT TERM...(TODAY THROUGH SATURDAY NIGHT) ISSUED AT 227 AM MDT THU NOV 1 2012 FORECAST CONCERNS WILL BE TEMPERATURE FORECAST INTO THE THE BEGINNING OF THE WEEKEND AND FIRE WEATHER ISSUES TODAY AND FRIDAY. SATELLITE SHOWING AN AMPLIFIED PATTERN FROM THE PACIFIC INTO THE CENTRAL ATLANTIC. VERY LARGE AND COMPLEX UPPER TROUGH OVER THE NORTHEAST PACIFIC AND STRONG SYSTEM MOVING OUT OF THE EASTERN UNITED STATES. IN BETWEEN IS A STRONG RIDGE WHICH IS IN ADVANCE OF A RATHER STRONG SYSTEM BEGINNING TO MOVE ONSHORE. AT JET LEVEL THE MODELS INITIALIZED FINE. AT MID LEVELS...THE MODELS WERE CLOSE WITH MAYBE BEING A LITTLE TOO FAR EAST WITH THE UPPER HEIGHT FIELD. SATELLITE WOULD INDICATE THAT THE ECMWF WAS DOING A LITTLE BETTER THAN THE GFS AND NAM. THE NAM AND ECMWF WERE DOING ABOUT THE SAME ON THE LOW LEVEL WIND AND PRESSURE FIELD. THE MODELS TENDED TO BE A LITTLE COOL ON THE LOW LEVEL THERMAL FIELD WITH THE CANADIAN AND UKMET DOING THE BEST. TODAY/TONIGHT...FRONT AND ITS ASSOCIATED STRATUS ARE MOVING IN FROM THE NORTH. THE RUC...WHICH LOOKS TO BE CATCHING THIS NICELY...AND THE HRRR SHOW THE STRATUS TO STAY NORTH AND EAST OF THE AREA. OTHERWISE LITTLE TO NO CLOUD COVER EXPECTED. SURFACE RIDGING/SOME COOLING FROM THE FRONT LOOK TO AFFECT THE NORTHEAST HALF. GOING BY TEMPERATURE CHANGE AT 850 MB FROM YESTERDAY...CURRENT BIAS...AND TEMPERATURE GUIDANCE THAT HAS BEEN PERFORMING THE BEST LATELY SUPPORT A SLIGHT RISE IN MAXES IN THE WEST. WILL WATCH THE PROGRESS OF THE STRATUS AND FRONT FOR AS LONG AS POSSIBLE TO MAKE ANY ADJUSTMENTS TO THIS. HIGHEST 3 HOUR PRESSURE FALLS AND TIGHTEST GRADIENT OCCUR IN THE WESTERN THIRD OF THE AREA. SO WINDS COULD GET INTO THE BREEZY CATEGORY IN THIS AREA. LOOK TO GET DOWNSLOPE AND WARM AIR ADVECTION IN ADVANCE OF THE FRONT. FRONT STARTS MOVING IN LATE OVER THE WESTERN AND CENTRAL PORTIONS OF THE AREA BY LATE IN THE NIGHT WITH SCATTERED TO BROKEN CIRRUS EXPECTED. LOOKS TO BE A PERIOD OF LIGHT WINDS IN THE EASTERN PORTION AND WILL MAKE THE MINS COOLEST HERE. FRIDAY/FRIDAY NIGHT...FRONT BLASTS THROUGH THE AREA BY 18Z WITH STEADY OR SLIGHTLY FALLING 850 MB TEMPERATURES IN THE AFTERNOON. RIGHT REAR QUADRANT OF UPPER JET MOVES ACROSS DURING THE AFTERNOON AND NIGHT. THIS LOOKS TO PRODUCE THICK MID AND UPPER LEVEL CLOUD COVER ACROSS THE AREA DURING THE DAY AND COULD HINDER THE HEATING. MODEL GUIDANCE NOT TOO DIFFERENT FROM EACH OTHER AND CURRENT FORECAST AND MADE ONLY SLIGHT ADJUSTMENTS. PRESSURE GRADIENT SUPPORTS BREEZY CONDITIONS. SATURDAY/SATURDAY NIGHT...WILL HAVE A COOL START TO THE DAY. ALSO SURFACE RIDGE WILL NOT BE TOO FAR AWAY. THERE APPEARS TO NOT BE TOO MUCH CLOUD COVER. GOING BY TEMPERATURE CHANGE FROM THE PREVIOUS COUPLE OF DAYS...THE 850 MB TEMPERATURE BIAS...AND LATEST 2 METER/NWP GUIDANCE SUPPORTS LITTLE IF ANY CHANGE TO THE CURRENT MAX TEMPERATURES. COULD BE SOME CLOUD COVER AROUND AS NEXT SURFACE TROUGH MOVES THROUGH DURING THE NIGHT. WINDS COULD DROP OFF TO ALLOW FOR COOLER MINS. .LONG TERM...(SUNDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY) ISSUED AT 227 AM MDT THU NOV 1 2012 MODEL CONSENSUS IS INDICATING THAT A RIDGE OF HIGH PRESSURE WILL DEVELOP OVER THE ROCKY MOUNTAINS EARLY NEXT WEEK. THIS RIDGE OF HIGH PRESSURE WILL BUILD INTO THE PLAINS BY THE MIDDLE OF THE WEEK. THE HIGH WILL BLOCK ANY WEATHER SYSTEMS FROM MOVING INTO THE TRI-STATE AREA...THUS KEEPING THE WEATHER DRY. TEMPERATURES WILL BEGIN TO REBOUND DURING THE EARLY PORTIONS OF NEXT WEEK. ABOVE NORMAL TEMPERATURES ARE EXPECTED FOR THE MAJORITY OF NEXT WEEK AS A RESULT OF THE RIDGE...CLEAR SKIES AND NO MAJOR AIR MASS CHANGES. SOUTH WINDS WILL BRING A SLIGHT INCREASE IN MOISTURE ACROSS THE REGION DURING THE MIDDLE OF THE WEEK. THE BRUNT OF THE MOISTURE SHOULD STAY TO THE EAST HOWEVER. MODELS ARE IN PRETTY GOOD AGREEMENT IN THE LONG TERM. BOTH THE EUROPEAN AND GFS MODELS INDICATE THAT THE RIDGE OF HIGH PRESSURE WILL BEGIN SHIFTING TO THE EAST BY THE END OF THE PERIOD. && .AVIATION...(FOR THE 06Z TAFS THROUGH 06Z THURSDAY NIGHT) ISSUED AT 1140 PM MDT WED OCT 31 2012 VFR CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED THROUGH THE PERIOD. LIGHT WINDS WILL SHIFT TO THE SOUTH AND BECOME GUSTY...MAINLY AT KGLD...DURING THE AFTERNOON. && .FIRE WEATHER... ISSUED AT 227 AM MDT THU NOV 1 2012 FOR TODAY...MODEL DIFFERENCES IN HOW LOW THE DEWPOINTS GO. THIS COMPLICATED BY INCOMING FRONT. BASED ON LATEST OBSERVATIONS AND 00Z OBSERVED AND FORECAST SOUNDINGS...BELIEVE MIXING WILL OCCUR BETTER THAN WHAT THE MODELS INDICATE AT THIS TIME. SO BELIEVE THE DEWPOINTS WILL BE LOWER NEAR THE COLORADO BORDER. QUESTION THEN BECOMES IF WINDS WILL BE STRONG ENOUGH FOR LONG ENOUGH IN THIS SAME AREA. GRADIENT...3 HOUR PRESSURE FALLS...BUFKIT...AND LOCAL WIND GUST PROGRAM SUPPORT GUSTS NEAR 25 MPH IN LOCATIONS ALONG THE COLORADO BORDER. THIS LOOKS TO BE MARGINAL FOR A RED FLAG WARNING AND WILL BE CLOSE. SO AT THIS TIME...DO NOT PLAN ON ISSUING ANY FIRE WEATHER HIGHLIGHTS BUT WILL CONTINUE TO WATCH CLOSELY. FOR FRIDAY...THE WINDS WILL DEFINITELY BE GUSTY IN THE 25 TO 30 MPH RANGE. HOWEVER...RELATIVE HUMIDITY STAYS ABOVE 20 PERCENT. SO WILL NOT BE ISSUING ANY HIGHLIGHT FOR THIS DAY. && .GLD WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... KS...NONE. CO...NONE. NE...NONE. && $$ SHORT TERM...BULLER LONG TERM...RRH AVIATION...DLF FIRE WEATHER...BULLER
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION...UPDATED
NWS GRAY ME
1224 PM EDT THU NOV 1 2012 .SYNOPSIS... PRECIPITATION WILL CONTINUE TO DECREASE ACROSS NEW HAMPSHIRE AND MAINE TODAY AS THE REMNANTS OF SANDY WEAKEN FURTHER. THE LOW WILL LIFT ACROSS THE NORTHEASTERN UNITED STATES AND EASTERN CANADA THROUGH THE REMAINDER OF THE WEEK...KEEPING CLOUDS AND UNSETTLED WEATHER IN THE FORECAST THROUGH THE WEEKEND. COOL HIGH PRESSURE WILL BUILD IN MONDAY BEHIND A COLD FRONT. LOW PRESSURE WILL TRACK UP THE EAST COAST NEXT WEEK. && .NEAR TERM /UNTIL 6 PM THIS EVENING/... .UPDATE...ADJUSTED CLOUD COVER AS A DRY SLOT WORKS INTO THE AREA. PRECIPITATION HAS EXITED THE AREA BUT HRRR AND OTHER MODELS HAVE ANOTHER WAVE MOVING IN THIS EVENING WITH LIGHT QPF OVER THE MOUNTAINS. && .SHORT TERM /6 PM THIS EVENING THROUGH 6 PM FRIDAY/... DEEP MOISTURE CONTINUES TO SHIFT E OF THE CWFA TNGT...WITH UPR TROF AXIS CROSSING THE AREA LATE. THIS WILL HELP DRY OUT THE COLUMN FURTHER AS WINDS BECOME MORE WLY. SHRA WILL SHIFT TO HIGH TERRAIN COMPLETELY. THE CAA WILL GIVE A COOLER DAY ON FRI...BUT STILL NEAR TO ABV NORMAL. && .LONG TERM /FRIDAY NIGHT THROUGH WEDNESDAY/... GOOD AGREEMENT WITH VARIOUS GUIDANCE AND PREVIOUS FORECAST FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS. THE LOW CONTINUES TO MOVE OUT TO LABRADOR WITH NORTHWESTERLY FLOW GENERATING UPSLOPE SHOWERS THROUGH THE MOUNTAINS ON SATURDAY. THE ARRIVAL OF HIGH PRESSURE WILL BRING THE UPSLOPE SHOWERS TO AN END THROUGH THE DAY SUNDAY AS COLDER AIR COMES INTO THE REGION. SUNDAY NIGHT INTO MONDAY WILL BE THE COLD POINT OF THE WEEK AS CLEAR SKIES AND COLD CONTINENTAL AIR PUSH LOWS INTO THE 20S STATEWIDE AND TEENS IN THE MOUNTAINS. MONDAY WILL CONTINUE THE COOLING TREND AS HIGHS REMAIN IN THE 40S THROUGH MUCH OF THE STATE. MONDAY WILL REMAIN QUIET AS A HIGH BUILDS IN TO THE REGION. TUESDAY A LOW WILL MOVE UP THE EASTERN SEABOARD.... HOWEVER THE TREND WITH BOTH THE ECMWF AND THE GFS IS TO KEEP THE LOW CENTER OUT TO SEA...SO WILL KEEP MINIMAL POPS FOR ELECTION DAY. MORE HIGH PRESSURE THROUGH THE END OF THE WEEK WHEN ANOTHER SYSTEM DROPS SOUTHWARDS OUT OF CANADA. && .AVIATION /16Z THURSDAY THROUGH MONDAY/... SHORT TERM...VFR CONDS TO CONTINUE TODAY UNDER UPR LVL LOW PRES. EXPECT VFR CONDS TO PREVAIL THE MAJORITY OF THE TIME...WITH PASSING MVFR. CHC FOR -SHRA IN THE MTNS...ESPECIALLY KLEB AND KHIE. LONG TERM... MVFR IN UPSLOPE SHOWERS POSSIBLE THROUGH SATURDAY AND INTO SUNDAY FOR HIE... VALLEY FOG RESULTING IN IFR ALSO POSSIBLE AT LEB HIE FOR SUNDAY AND MONDAY NIGHTS AS RADIATIONAL COOLING DRIVES TEMPERATURES QUITE LOW. HAVE LEFT THIS OUT FOR THE MOMENT... AS MUCH WILL DEPEND ON SUBTLE CHANGES IN DEW POINTS OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL DAYS. ELSEWHERE VFR WILL PREVAIL THROUGH NEXT WEEK. && .MARINE... SHORT TERM...SEAS WILL REMAIN HIGH TODAY...BUT HAVE FALLEN BLO 5 FT WITHIN THE BAYS. HAVE DROPPED THE SCA THERE...AND EXTENDED THE OUTER WATERS UNTIL 00Z THIS EVENING. LONG TERM...QUIET COUPLE OF DAYS ON THE WATERS... EXPECT SEAS TO BUILD TO SCA BY TUESDAY NIGHT AS THE LOW PASSES OFFSHORE. && .GYX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... ME...NONE. NH...NONE. MARINE...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY FOR HAZARDOUS SEAS UNTIL 8 PM EDT THIS EVENING FOR ANZ150-152-154. && $$ UPDATE...HANES
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS TWIN CITIES/CHANHASSEN MN
1210 PM CDT THU NOV 1 2012 .DISCUSSION... OVERVIEW...STILL HOLDING ONTO A CHANCE FOR A LITTLE LIGHT RAIN AND SNOW THIS WEEKEND...ALTHOUGH THE LATEST AVAILABLE MODEL GUIDANCE HAS DECREASED OUR PROBABILITIES. LOWERED TEMPS SLIGHTLY OVER THE NEXT FEW DAYS AND INCREASED CLOUD COVER. ANOTHER TRAILING SHORTWAVE KEEPS SMALL POPS IN THE FORECAST THROUGH MONDAY. NO MAJOR CHANGES TO THE PREVIOUS FORECAST. THE COOL TEMPERATURE TREND TO CLOSE OUT OCTOBER LEFT WESTERN WI AND SOUTHERN/CENTRAL MN ROUGHLY 1-2 DEGREES BELOW NORMAL FOR THE MONTH. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HASN`T HAPPENED SINCE SPRING OF 2011. WE WILL START NOVEMBER BELOW NORMAL AS WELL...ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE COLD AIR ADVECTION SETTING IN TODAY AND THE INCREASED CLOUD COVER EXPECTED OVER THE NEXT FEW DAYS. THE 01.00Z MPX SOUNDING AND RUC ANALYSES LATE LAST NIGHT SHOWED EAST CENTRAL MN SITTING AT ABOUT +3 C AT 850MB...OVER THE PAST 3-6 HOURS...MUCH OF THE AREA HAS COOLED 1-3 DEGREES. THE TEMPERATURE ADVECTION WILL ACTUALLY INCREASE FROM 9-12Z...SO BY 15Z MOST OF EASTERN MN AND WEST CENTRAL WI WILL BE BETWEEN -4 AND -6 C AT 850MB. PLENTY OF LOW STRATUS COMING DOWN WITH THE COOLER TEMPS AS WELL. BESIDES A FEW HOLES IN THE STRATUS...MOST OF THE AREA WILL SEE A CLOUDY MORNING AND INCREASING NORTHWEST WINDS. AS A RESULT...LOWERED TEMPS TODAY BY 2-4 DEGREES IN MOST AREAS FROM WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY FORECASTED. MOST OF THE GUIDANCE SHOWS ENOUGH MIXING BY 18Z TO SCATTER OUT THE STATUS DECK...BUT THE TIMING IS NOT FOR CERTAIN BY ANY MEANS. WE HOLD ONTO THE CLOUDS LONGER THAN MOST OF THE GUIDANCE PROVIDED THIS MORNING...EXCEPT FOR THE RUC WHICH HANGS ONTO THE CLOUDS LONGER. DECREASED POPS FRIDAY NIGHT AND SATURDAY...PARTLY TO ACCOUNT FOR THE TRENDS IN THE LAST COUPLE RUNS OF THE EC/GFS AND PARTLY TO BLEND WITH SURROUNDING NWS OFFICES. WE BASICALLY HAVE 40% POPS IN THERE NOW FOR FRIDAY NIGHT AND SATURDAY. THERE WAS DISCUSSION OF GOING LOWER...BUT THAT SEEMS A LITTLE AGGRESSIVE AT THIS POINT. THIS WILL NO DOUBT BE A LIGHT QPF EVENT EVEN WHERE IT DOES PRECIP. HOWEVER...EVEN THE DRY NAM HAS SOME EVIDENCE OF WEAK ADIABATIC OMEGA AND SATURATION ON THE 295-300K SURFACES. THE GFS IS A LITTLE STRONGER WITH ISENTROPIC LIFT...AND EVEN THE EC PAINTS A STRIPE OF LIGHT QPF ACROSS THE AREA. CHANCE POPS ARE CERTAINLY WITHIN REASON AND IT JUST SEEMED A LITTLE PREMATURE TO REVERT FROM 45-55 POPS TO 20 POPS AT THIS POINT. PRECIP TYPE SHOULD BE A MIX OF RAIN AND SNOW AT THE ONSET ON FRIDAY...AND GRADUALLY TRANSITION TO MORE LIGHT SNOW HEADING INTO SATURDAY AND SUNDAY. QPF WILL BE VERY LIGHT...SO ANY SNOW ACCUMULATIONS SHOULD BE CONFINED TO CENTRAL MN AND REMAIN A HALF INCH OR LESS. YESTERDAY...WE MENTIONED THAT A FEW LOCATIONS COULD SEE 1-2"...BUT THIS IS NOW LOOKING LESS LIKELY. IN THE EXTENDED...NICE AMPLIFICATION TO THE PATTERN NEXT WEEK WITH THE REMNANTS OF OUR WEEKEND SYSTEM CARVING OUT A DEEPER EAST COAST TROUGH AND POSSIBLY BRINGING ANOTHER SIGNIFICANT LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM TO LOCATIONS IN THE NORTHEAST. LONGWAVE RIDGING SETS IN OVER THE MIDWEST AS ANOTHER TROUGH TAKES SHAPE OFF THE WEST COAST. THERE IS ACTUALLY REMARKABLE AGREEMENT WITH THE 01.00Z GFS AND EC 8-10 DAYS OUT WITH THIS TROUGH. GOT A FEW DAYS TO GO YET BEFORE THIS SYSTEM CAN REALLY BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY...BUT SOMETHING TO KEEP AND EYE AS WE GET CLOSER TO VETERAN`S DAY WEEKEND. && .AVIATION.../18Z TAF ISSUANCE/ ONLY SHORT TERM CONCERNS DEAL WITH HIGH END MVFR/LOW END VFR CIGS ACROSS MAINLY THE EASTERN FA AS A LARGE AREA OF CLEARING HAS TAKEN PLACE ACROSS THE WEST. WITH STILL HIGH RH BLW 4K IN THE EASTERN 1/3 OF THE FA...WILL CONTINUE WITH SCT025...WITH CIGS OF 3.5K FOR RNH/EAU/MSP. ELSEWHERE...WILL CONTINUE WITH ONLY SCATTERED CLDS. BASED ON THE LATEST MOISTURE FIELDS INCREASING ACROSS THE PLAINS...AND INTO THE UPPER MIDWEST...BELIEVE CIGS AFT THIS AFTN WILL ONLY FALL TO ARND 9-11K...WITH A VERY DRY ATMOSPHERE BLW 5K DEVELOPING WITH AN E/NE FLOW. WINDS WILL BE GENERALLY FROM THE NNW THIS AFTN/EVENING AND DECREASING TO LESS THAN 6 KTS AFT 00Z. WINDS WILL BECOME NNE/NE OVERNIGHT...WITH A PREDOMINATE NE/ENE WIND IN THE MORNING...BUT LESS THAN 8 KTS. KMSP... KEPT CIGS THRU THE AFTN ARND 3.5K AS RESIDUAL MOISTURE AND LCL/S HOLD NEAR 3-4K. BY 23Z...CLDS SHOULD SCATTER OUT WITH ONLY HIGH LEVEL CIRRUS CLDS SPREADING ACROSS THE REGION. CIGS SHOULD BEGIN TO LOWER ONCE AGAIN LATE IN THE TAF PERIOD...BUT REMAIN ABV 9K. WINDS WILL BE GUSTY EARLY THIS AFTN...BUT DECREASE AND HOLD ARND 6 KTS FROM THE N...THEN NE ON FRIDAY. /OUTLOOK FOR KMSP/ SAT/SUN...VFR. ISOLD/SCT -RA/-SN. WINDS E AT 5 KTS. MON...VFR. SE 5 KTS. ..JLT.. && .MPX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... MN...NONE. WI...NONE. && $$ CLF/JLT
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NWS TWIN CITIES/CHANHASSEN MN
600 AM CDT THU NOV 1 2012 .AVIATION... /12Z TAF ISSUANCE/ MVFR CEILINGS AT KAXN...KSTC AND KRWF WILL SPREAD SOUTH AND EAST ACROSS KRNH...KMSP AND KEAU EARLY IN THE TAF PERIOD IN THE WAKE OF A COLD FRONT. CEILINGS BETWEEN 015 AND 030 FROM NW TO SE. CONFIDENCE IS NOT HIGH ON THE DISSIPATION OF THE CEILINGS BY LATE MORNING PER MOST GUIDANCE DUE TO THE LOW LEVEL CYCLONIC FLOW THAT PREVAILS INTO EARLY THIS AFTERNOON. CLEARING EXPECTED FOR A TIME TONIGHT BEFORE MID/HIGH LEVEL CLOUDS AOA 100 MOVE IN AHEAD OF AN APPROACHING LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM IN ND. THIS FEATURE MAY BRING SOME -RA/-SN TO KAXN AND KRWF FRIDAY AFTERNOON. NORTHWEST WINDS 12-15 KNOTS TODAY WITH GUSTS INTO THE 20-25 KNOT RANGE BECOMING LIGHT NE TO EAST TONIGHT. KMSP...A PERIOD OF MVFR CEILINGS (025) THIS MORNING WITH PREVAILING CONDITIONS RIGHT AROUND 035. SCT-BKN035-040 FOR THIS AFTERNOON. NO REAL PROBLEMS TONIGHT AND FRO MUCH OF FRIDAY...ALTHOUGH CEILINGS WILL LIKELY LOWER FROM 150 TO 050 DURING THE DAY ON FRIDAY. NW WINDS (320-330) AROUND 12 KNOTS GUSTING 20 KNOTS BECOMING LIGHT NE TONIGHT. /OUTLOOK FOR KMSP/ FRI...VFR. CEILINGS AOA 050. WINDS E AT 5 KTS. SAT...VFR. POSSIBLE MVFR CEILINGS WITH -RASN. WINDS E AT 5 KTS. SUN...VFR. POSSIBLE MVFR CEILINGS WITH -RA/-DZ. WINDS E AT 5 KTS. && .DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 417 AM CDT THU NOV 1 2012/ OVERVIEW...STILL HOLDING ONTO A CHANCE FOR A LITTLE LIGHT RAIN AND SNOW THIS WEEKEND...ALTHOUGH THE LATEST AVAILABLE MODEL GUIDANCE HAS DECREASED OUR PROBABILITIES. LOWERED TEMPS SLIGHTLY OVER THE NEXT FEW DAYS AND INCREASED CLOUD COVER. ANOTHER TRAILING SHORTWAVE KEEPS SMALL POPS IN THE FORECAST THROUGH MONDAY. NO MAJOR CHANGES TO THE PREVIOUS FORECAST. THE COOL TEMPERATURE TREND TO CLOSE OUT OCTOBER LEFT WESTERN WI AND SOUTHERN/CENTRAL MN ROUGHLY 1-2 DEGREES BELOW NORMAL FOR THE MONTH. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HASN`T HAPPENED SINCE SPRING OF 2011. WE WILL START NOVEMBER BELOW NORMAL AS WELL...ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE COLD AIR ADVECTION SETTING IN TODAY AND THE INCREASED CLOUD COVER EXPECTED OVER THE NEXT FEW DAYS. THE 01.00Z MPX SOUNDING AND RUC ANALYSES LATE LAST NIGHT SHOWED EAST CENTRAL MN SITTING AT ABOUT +3 C AT 850MB...OVER THE PAST 3-6 HOURS...MUCH OF THE AREA HAS COOLED 1-3 DEGREES. THE TEMPERATURE ADVECTION WILL ACTUALLY INCREASE FROM 9-12Z...SO BY 15Z MOST OF EASTERN MN AND WEST CENTRAL WI WILL BE BETWEEN -4 AND -6 C AT 850MB. PLENTY OF LOW STRATUS COMING DOWN WITH THE COOLER TEMPS AS WELL. BESIDES A FEW HOLES IN THE STRATUS...MOST OF THE AREA WILL SEE A CLOUDY MORNING AND INCREASING NORTHWEST WINDS. AS A RESULT...LOWERED TEMPS TODAY BY 2-4 DEGREES IN MOST AREAS FROM WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY FORECASTED. MOST OF THE GUIDANCE SHOWS ENOUGH MIXING BY 18Z TO SCATTER OUT THE STATUS DECK...BUT THE TIMING IS NOT FOR CERTAIN BY ANY MEANS. WE HOLD ONTO THE CLOUDS LONGER THAN MOST OF THE GUIDANCE PROVIDED THIS MORNING...EXCEPT FOR THE RUC WHICH HANGS ONTO THE CLOUDS LONGER. DECREASED POPS FRIDAY NIGHT AND SATURDAY...PARTLY TO ACCOUNT FOR THE TRENDS IN THE LAST COUPLE RUNS OF THE EC/GFS AND PARTLY TO BLEND WITH SURROUNDING NWS OFFICES. WE BASICALLY HAVE 40% POPS IN THERE NOW FOR FRIDAY NIGHT AND SATURDAY. THERE WAS DISCUSSION OF GOING LOWER...BUT THAT SEEMS A LITTLE AGGRESSIVE AT THIS POINT. THIS WILL NO DOUBT BE A LIGHT QPF EVENT EVEN WHERE IT DOES PRECIP. HOWEVER...EVEN THE DRY NAM HAS SOME EVIDENCE OF WEAK ADIABATIC OMEGA AND SATURATION ON THE 295-300K SURFACES. THE GFS IS A LITTLE STRONGER WITH ISENTROPIC LIFT...AND EVEN THE EC PAINTS A STRIPE OF LIGHT QPF ACROSS THE AREA. CHANCE POPS ARE CERTAINLY WITHIN REASON AND IT JUST SEEMED A LITTLE PREMATURE TO REVERT FROM 45-55 POPS TO 20 POPS AT THIS POINT. PRECIP TYPE SHOULD BE A MIX OF RAIN AND SNOW AT THE ONSET ON FRIDAY...AND GRADUALLY TRANSITION TO MORE LIGHT SNOW HEADING INTO SATURDAY AND SUNDAY. QPF WILL BE VERY LIGHT...SO ANY SNOW ACCUMULATIONS SHOULD BE CONFINED TO CENTRAL MN AND REMAIN A HALF INCH OR LESS. YESTERDAY...WE MENTIONED THAT A FEW LOCATIONS COULD SEE 1-2"...BUT THIS IS NOW LOOKING LESS LIKELY. IN THE EXTENDED...NICE AMPLIFICATION TO THE PATTERN NEXT WEEK WITH THE REMNANTS OF OUR WEEKEND SYSTEM CARVING OUT A DEEPER EAST COAST TROUGH AND POSSIBLY BRINGING ANOTHER SIGNIFICANT LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM TO LOCATIONS IN THE NORTHEAST. LONGWAVE RIDGING SETS IN OVER THE MIDWEST AS ANOTHER TROUGH TAKES SHAPE OFF THE WEST COAST. THERE IS ACTUALLY REMARKABLE AGREEMENT WITH THE 01.00Z GFS AND EC 8-10 DAYS OUT WITH THIS TROUGH. GOT A FEW DAYS TO GO YET BEFORE THIS SYSTEM CAN REALLY BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY...BUT SOMETHING TO KEEP AND EYE AS WE GET CLOSER TO VETERAN`S DAY WEEKEND. && .MPX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... MN...NONE. WI...NONE. && $$ RAH/CLF
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NWS TWIN CITIES/CHANHASSEN MN
417 AM CDT THU NOV 1 2012 .DISCUSSION... OVERVIEW...STILL HOLDING ONTO A CHANCE FOR A LITTLE LIGHT RAIN AND SNOW THIS WEEKEND...ALTHOUGH THE LATEST AVAILABLE MODEL GUIDANCE HAS DECREASED OUR PROBABILITIES. LOWERED TEMPS SLIGHTLY OVER THE NEXT FEW DAYS AND INCREASED CLOUD COVER. ANOTHER TRAILING SHORTWAVE KEEPS SMALL POPS IN THE FORECAST THROUGH MONDAY. NO MAJOR CHANGES TO THE PREVIOUS FORECAST. THE COOL TEMPERATURE TREND TO CLOSE OUT OCTOBER LEFT WESTERN WI AND SOUTHERN/CENTRAL MN ROUGHLY 1-2 DEGREES BELOW NORMAL FOR THE MONTH. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HASN`T HAPPENED SINCE SPRING OF 2011. WE WILL START NOVEMBER BELOW NORMAL AS WELL...ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE COLD AIR ADVECTION SETTING IN TODAY AND THE INCREASED CLOUD COVER EXPECTED OVER THE NEXT FEW DAYS. THE 01.00Z MPX SOUNDING AND RUC ANALYSES LATE LAST NIGHT SHOWED EAST CENTRAL MN SITTING AT ABOUT +3 C AT 850MB...OVER THE PAST 3-6 HOURS...MUCH OF THE AREA HAS COOLED 1-3 DEGREES. THE TEMPERATURE ADVECTION WILL ACTUALLY INCREASE FROM 9-12Z...SO BY 15Z MOST OF EASTERN MN AND WEST CENTRAL WI WILL BE BETWEEN -4 AND -6 C AT 850MB. PLENTY OF LOW STRATUS COMING DOWN WITH THE COOLER TEMPS AS WELL. BESIDES A FEW HOLES IN THE STRATUS...MOST OF THE AREA WILL SEE A CLOUDY MORNING AND INCREASING NORTHWEST WINDS. AS A RESULT...LOWERED TEMPS TODAY BY 2-4 DEGREES IN MOST AREAS FROM WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY FORECASTED. MOST OF THE GUIDANCE SHOWS ENOUGH MIXING BY 18Z TO SCATTER OUT THE STATUS DECK...BUT THE TIMING IS NOT FOR CERTAIN BY ANY MEANS. WE HOLD ONTO THE CLOUDS LONGER THAN MOST OF THE GUIDANCE PROVIDED THIS MORNING...EXCEPT FOR THE RUC WHICH HANGS ONTO THE CLOUDS LONGER. DECREASED POPS FRIDAY NIGHT AND SATURDAY...PARTLY TO ACCOUNT FOR THE TRENDS IN THE LAST COUPLE RUNS OF THE EC/GFS AND PARTLY TO BLEND WITH SURROUNDING NWS OFFICES. WE BASICALLY HAVE 40% POPS IN THERE NOW FOR FRIDAY NIGHT AND SATURDAY. THERE WAS DISCUSSION OF GOING LOWER...BUT THAT SEEMS A LITTLE AGGRESSIVE AT THIS POINT. THIS WILL NO DOUBT BE A LIGHT QPF EVENT EVEN WHERE IT DOES PRECIP. HOWEVER...EVEN THE DRY NAM HAS SOME EVIDENCE OF WEAK ADIABATIC OMEGA AND SATURATION ON THE 295-300K SURFACES. THE GFS IS A LITTLE STRONGER WITH ISENTROPIC LIFT...AND EVEN THE EC PAINTS A STRIPE OF LIGHT QPF ACROSS THE AREA. CHANCE POPS ARE CERTAINLY WITHIN REASON AND IT JUST SEEMED A LITTLE PREMATURE TO REVERT FROM 45-55 POPS TO 20 POPS AT THIS POINT. PRECIP TYPE SHOULD BE A MIX OF RAIN AND SNOW AT THE ONSET ON FRIDAY...AND GRADUALLY TRANSITION TO MORE LIGHT SNOW HEADING INTO SATURDAY AND SUNDAY. QPF WILL BE VERY LIGHT...SO ANY SNOW ACCUMULATIONS SHOULD BE CONFINED TO CENTRAL MN AND REMAIN A HALF INCH OR LESS. YESTERDAY...WE MENTIONED THAT A FEW LOCATIONS COULD SEE 1-2"...BUT THIS IS NOW LOOKING LESS LIKELY. IN THE EXTENDED...NICE AMPLIFICATION TO THE PATTERN NEXT WEEK WITH THE REMNANTS OF OUR WEEKEND SYSTEM CARVING OUT A DEEPER EAST COAST TROUGH AND POSSIBLY BRINGING ANOTHER SIGNIFICANT LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM TO LOCATIONS IN THE NORTHEAST. LONGWAVE RIDGING SETS IN OVER THE MIDWEST AS ANOTHER TROUGH TAKES SHAPE OFF THE WEST COAST. THERE IS ACTUALLY REMARKABLE AGREEMENT WITH THE 01.00Z GFS AND EC 8-10 DAYS OUT WITH THIS TROUGH. GOT A FEW DAYS TO GO YET BEFORE THIS SYSTEM CAN REALLY BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY...BUT SOMETHING TO KEEP AND EYE AS WE GET CLOSER TO VETERAN`S DAY WEEKEND. && .AVIATION.../06Z TAF ISSUANCE/ A COLD FRONT WITH NORTHWEST WINDS WILL PUSH DOWN FROM THE NORTH TONIGHT WHICH WILL BE FOLLOWED WITH AN MVFR STRATUS DECK LASTING THROUGH THE EARLY MORNING HOURS BEFORE BREAKING UP BY LATE MORNING. A FEW GUSTS IN THE UPPER TEENS ARE POSSIBLE DURING THE EARLY AFTERNOON...BEFORE SUBSIDING AROUND SUNSET. KMSP... SHORT TERM MODEL GUIDANCE SHOWS THE STRATUS DECK REACHING THE AIRPORT BETWEEN 10 AND 11Z...BUT OPTIMISTIC THAT CEILINGS WILL STAY ABOVE 1800FT. THE BROKEN DECK SHOULD RAISE AND SCATTER OUT THROUGHOUT THE DAY WITH VFR CONDITIONS ALL AFTERNOON AND EVENING. /OUTLOOK FOR KMSP/ FRI...VFR. WINDS E AT 05KTS. SAT...VFR WITH POSSIBLE MVFR CEILINGS AND -RASN. WINDS E AT 05KTS. SUN...VFR WITH POSSIBLE MVFR CEILINGS. WINDS S AT 5 TO 10KTS. && .MPX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... MN...NONE. WI...NONE. && $$ CLF/JRB
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS BILLINGS MT
1041 PM MDT WED OCT 31 2012 .SHORT TERM...VALID FOR THU AND FRI... UPDATE THIS EVENING TO ADD PATCHY FOG FOR AREAS ALONG AND EAST OF LINE FROM MILES CITY TO BROADUS. MOIST SOUTHEAST FLOW IS PRODUCING PATCHY FOG IN THESE AREAS THIS EVENING AND IS EXPECTED TO REMAIN OVER THESE AREAS THROUGH MID THURSDAY MORNING. RICHMOND PREVIOUS DISCUSSION... WE UPDATED THE FORECAST TO INCREASE CLOUD COVER SUBSTANTIALLY OVER FAR SOUTHEASTERN MT TONIGHT AND THU MORNING...AND TO MAKE A COUPLE OF ADJUSTMENTS TO OVERNIGHT LOWS ACROSS PARTS OF THE AREA BASED ON TRENDS AS OF 02 UTC. LOW-LEVEL EAST WINDS ASSOCIATED WITH A RATHER SHALLOW BATCH OF COOL AND RELATIVELY MOIST AIR MADE IT ALL THE WAY TO LIVINGSTON BY LATE THIS AFTERNOON. THAT AIR MASS...AND EXPECTED EROSION ON ITS WEST SIDE OVER SOUTH CENTRAL MT...WILL END UP BEING THE FORECAST PROBLEM TONIGHT INTO THU. SURFACE PRESSURE FALLS HAVE BEGUN ALONG THE FRONT RANGE OF THE ROCKIES AS OF MID EVENING...AND THAT VERIFIES THE MODEL-SIMULATED LEE TROUGH THAT SHOULD RESULT IN WINDS SWINGING BACK AROUND TO THE SOUTHWEST AT LIVINGSTON BY ABOUT 06 UTC...AND EVEN AT BILLINGS BEFORE MORNING. THE GRADIENT WILL BE SUFFICIENT FOR GUSTY WINDS ALONG THE FOOTHILLS TOO. HOWEVER...THE DEVELOPING LEE TROUGH WILL KEEP A LOW-LEVEL EASTERLY OR SOUTHEASTERLY FLOW IN PLACE OVER SOUTHEASTERN MT...AND BASED ON SATELLITE TRENDS...WE EXPECT STRATUS TO AT LEAST BUILD INTO PLACES LIKE BAKER AND EKALAKA. THAT IDEA HAS STRONG SUPPORT FROM THE SREF OUTPUT FROM 15 AND 21 UTC /WHICH CALLS FOR A 95 PERCENT CHANCE FOR CEILINGS BELOW 1000 FT AGL IN THOSE AREAS/ AND RECENT HRRR RUNS. A QUESTION MARK WILL BE WHETHER OR NOT THE STRATUS MAKES ITS WAY ALL THE WAY TO MILES CITY...WITH BOTH AFOREMENTIONED DATA SETS KEEPING THAT AREA ON THE EDGE OF THE LOWER CLOUDS. FOG WAS ALSO GIVEN SOME CONSIDERATION...BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THE LOW-LEVEL WINDS WILL STAY UP ENOUGH TO PREVENT IT FROM REALLY SETTING IN UNDERNEATH THE STRATUS DECK. HOWEVER...WE DID REDUCE HIGHS FOR BAKER AND EKALAKA BY ABOUT 5 F FOR THU OUT OF RESPECT TO CONTINUED SOUTHEAST FLOW AND STRATUS THAT MAY LINGER FOR AT LEAST PART OF THE DAY. SCHULTZ .LONG TERM...VALID FOR SAT...SUN...MON...TUE...WED... THIS WEEKEND WILL SEE ANOTHER RIDGE BUILD INTO THE AREA WITH COOL EASTERLY LOW LEVEL FLOW RETREATING EASTWARD THROUGH SOUTHEAST MONTANA. ITS A MOIST FLOW ALOFT...SO MOUNTAINS WILL SEE INCREASING CHANCE OF SHOWERS BUT THE PLAINS SHOULD NOT SEE ANY PRECIPITATION. EXPECT TEMPERATURES TO WARM TO ABOVE NORMAL BY SUNDAY AND THIS SHOULD PERSIST INTO MONDAY AS THE RIDGE FLATTENS IN RESPONSE TO A DISTURBANCE MOVING THROUGH SOUTHERN CANADA. BACKDOOR FRONT SLIDES INTO THE AREA ON TUESDAY WITH A BOUNDARY SETTING UP SOMEWHERE OVER SOUTHERN MONTANA BUT IT DOES APPEAR DOWNSLOPE COULD KEEP PRECIPITATION AWAY FROM THE FOOTHILLS. DID NOT PAINT THIS DETAIL YET AS RIDGE WOULD NOT HAVE TO AMPLIFY MUCH MORE TO PUSH THE COOLER AIR FURTHER WEST AND SHUT DOWNSLOPE OFF. OTHERWISE SHOULD SEE A COOL DOWN BUT AIR ALOFT IS WARM ENOUGH TO KEEP TEMPERATURES NEAR SEASONAL LEVELS. BORSUM && .AVIATION... A LEE SIDE TROUGH DEVELOPING ALONG THE FOOTHILLS WILL ALLOW GUSTY WINDS TO INCREASE ALONG THE FOOTHILLS OVERNIGHT...INCLUDING KLVM...WITH GUSTS TO 30 KNOTS POSSIBLE IN THE EARLY MORNING HOURS. FROM KMLS TO KBHK...EXPECT TO SEE IFR CEILINGS DEVELOP OVERNIGHT...IN RESPONSE TO A COOL AND MOIST EASTERLY FLOW. OTHERWISE...EXPECT TO SEE GUSTY WESTERLY WINDS INCREASE ALONG THE FOOTHILLS ON THURSDAY AFTERNOON...MAINLY FROM KBIL WEST TO KLVM. VFR CONDITIONS WILL PREVAIL FROM KBIL TO KSHR AND WEST THROUGHOUT THE PERIOD. CHURCH && .PRELIMINARY POINT TEMP/POPS... THU FRI SAT SUN MON TUE WED ----------------------------------------------------------- BIL 042/064 043/054 035/049 038/062 037/060 035/055 035/054 00/B 23/W 11/B 11/B 11/N 23/W 33/W LVM 044/066 039/055 034/046 031/058 030/056 028/050 028/049 02/T 42/W 12/W 22/W 22/W 33/W 33/W HDN 035/066 040/056 032/051 035/063 036/064 034/057 034/056 00/B 23/W 21/B 11/B 11/B 22/W 33/W MLS 036/060 038/048 030/048 034/061 035/059 033/055 033/054 00/B 23/W 21/B 11/B 11/B 22/W 22/W 4BQ 037/065 039/054 034/047 035/061 036/060 034/055 034/054 00/B 13/W 21/B 11/B 11/B 12/W 33/W BHK 033/049 034/047 028/043 033/059 033/056 031/053 031/052 00/E 13/W 21/B 11/B 11/B 12/W 22/W SHR 039/065 036/053 030/048 033/060 032/058 030/052 030/051 00/B 23/W 21/B 11/B 11/B 22/W 33/W && .BYZ WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... MT...NONE. WY...NONE. && $$ WEATHER.GOV/BILLINGS
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NWS NORTH PLATTE NE
639 AM CDT THU NOV 1 2012 .AVIATION...FOR THE KLBF AND KVTN TERMINALS THROUGH 12Z FRIDAY. SATELLITE TRENDS...AS WELL AS THE LATEST RAP BOUNDARY LAYER RH FIELD...PUSHES LOW LEVEL STRATUS AND LIFR CIGS...TO ROUGHLY EAST OF A LINE FROM 50W OF KVTN...TO 20NE OF KLBF THROUGH AT LEAST MID MORNING THURSDAY. THIS LINE IS EXPECTED TO SLOWLY RETREAT EASTWARD INTO THE AFTERNOON HOURS...AND STRATUS MAY HAVE A HARD TIME DISSIPATING ACROSS PORTIONS OF NORTH CENTRAL NEBRASKA THIS AFTERNOON DUE TO LOW LEVEL COLD AIR ADVECTION. WITH THE KVTN TERMINAL ON THE EDGE OF THE STRATUS THIS AM...WILL SCATTER OUT IFR CIGS LATER THIS MORNING IN THE 12Z TAF ISSUANCE FOR THAT TERMINAL. AT THE KLBF TERMINAL...STRATUS IS EXPECTED TO REMAIN JUST OFF TO THE EAST AND NORTHEAST OF THE AREA WITH NO IFR CONDS EXPECTED. WINDS WILL BE LIGHT FROM THE NORTHEAST THROUGH LATE MORNING...WITH A SHIFT TO THE SOUTH AND SOUTHEAST THIS AFTERNOON. WIND SPEEDS WILL BE AROUND 10 KTS OVER THE NEXT 24 HRS. AT BOTH TERMINALS...HIGH LEVEL CLOUDINESS WILL INCREASE TONIGHT AS A MID LEVEL DISTURBANCE APPROACHES THE NORTHERN ROCKIES AND A HIGH LEVEL JET STREAK PUSHES ACROSS THE CENTRAL PLAINS. && .PREV DISCUSSION.../ISSUED 355 AM CDT THU NOV 1 2012/ SYNOPSIS... BACKDOOR COLD FRONT DRIFTING SOUTH ACROSS THE NORTHERN PLAINS THIS MORNING...AND HAS JUST PUSHED INTO N CENTRAL NEBRASKA OVER THE LAST FEW HOURS. SAT IMAGERY SHOWING WIDESPREAD LOW STRATUS FILLING IN BEHIND. MEANWHILE A FAIRLY LARGE SYSTEM PUSHING ACROSS THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST THIS MORNING. && .DISCUSSION... NOVEMBER STARTING OUT TO BE A TRICKY FORECAST...AT LEAST TEMPS AND CLOUD WISE. NEAR TERM MODELS...HRRR/RAP...CONTINUE TO EXPAND THE SOUTHERN AND WESTERN EXTEND OF THE STRATUS INTO THE CWA EARLY THIS MORNING. THEN ALSO DELAYS THE DISSIPATION FROM SW TO NE LATE THIS MORNING INTO THE AFTERNOON. HAVE TRENDED FORECAST TO A MORE CLOUDY AND COOLER FORECAST OVER NORTH CENTRAL...GENERALLY EAST OF HIGHWAY 83 AND NORTH OF BBW. HIGHER CONFIDENCE THE SHALLOW STRATUS WILL REMAIN IN THE EAST WITH HIGHS ACROSS THE WEST REBOUNDING NICELY WITH SOUTHERLY WINDS DEVELOPING TO AROUND 70. STRATUS WILL HOLD TEMPS IN THE 40S THEN AS THE CLOUDS BREAK TEMPS SHOULD JUMP INTO THE 50S. ALL MODELS ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH THE SHALLOW STRATUS TO BREAK BY MID AFTERNOON...HOWEVER JUST LAST WEEK THE MODELS WERE TOO QUICK TO LIFT THE STRATUS. THUS AM CONCERNED AREAS FROM BBW TO ANW AND POINTS EAST MAY END UP COOLER THAN FORECAST. ACTIVE NORTHERN STREAM WILL PUSH PAC NW SYSTEM ACROSS THE NRN ROCKIES THEN TURNING MORE TO THE SE ACROSS THE NORTHERN PLAINS AND INTO THE SOUTHERN GREAT LAKES. THIS SYSTEM WILL FLATTEN THE RIDGE THAT HAS BROUGHT THE 70S TO THE AREA. TONIGHT A WEAK COLD FRONT WILL PUSH ACROSS THE AREA AND DROP HIGHS FOR FRIDAY INTO THE UPPER 50S TO MID 60S. ALSO EXPECTING AN INCREASE OF CLOUD COVER BEHIND THE FRONT. BY FRIDAY NIGHT THE MAIN UPPER LEVEL LOW WILL HAVE MADE IT TO N DAKOTA...WITH COOLER AIR CONTINUE TO PUSH SOUTH ACROSS THE AREA. HIGHS FOR SATURDAY WILL BE MORE WIDESPREAD 50S TO AROUND 60 IN THE SW. THEN FOR SATURDAY NIGHT AS THE LOW PUSHES SE...WILL SEE AN INCREASE OF CLOUDS OVER THE EASTERN FORECAST AREA. LIMITED MOISTURE TO WORK WITH SO WILL CONTINUE THE DRY FORECAST. SOME WEAK ISENTROPIC LIFT IS SEEN JUST TO THE EAST OF THE CWA AND WILL NEED TO BE MONITORED AS A SLIGHTLY WESTWARD TRACK OF THE SYSTEM COULD PUSH SOME LIGHT SHOWERS INTO PORTIONS OF N CENTRAL. BY SUNDAY INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK IN RESPONSE TO THE TROUGH DIGGING OVER THE SOUTHERN GREAT LAKES...A RIDGE WILL REDEVELOP ACROSS THE WEST COAST THEN BUILD TOWARDS THE ROCKIES. THIS WILL CONTINUE A NW FLOW AND POTENTIAL FOR MID AND HIGH CLOUDS BUT LITTLE IN THE WAY OF PRECIP. TEMPS WILL ALSO REBOUND BACK INTO THE 60S AND MAY EVEN RETURN TO THE LOWER 70S. TYPICALLY THIS TIME OF YEAR HIGHS SHOULD ONLY BE IN THE MID 50S. && .LBF WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...NONE. && $$ SYNOPSIS/DISCUSSION...MASEK AVIATION...CLB
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NWS NORTH PLATTE NE
355 AM CDT THU NOV 1 2012 .SYNOPSIS... BACKDOOR COLD FRONT DRIFTING SOUTH ACROSS THE NORTHERN PLAINS THIS MORNING...AND HAS JUST PUSHED INTO N CENTRAL NEBRASKA OVER THE LAST FEW HOURS. SAT IMAGERY SHOWING WIDESPREAD LOW STRATUS FILLING IN BEHIND. MEANWHILE A FAIRLY LARGE SYSTEM PUSHING ACROSS THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST THIS MORNING. && .DISCUSSION... NOVEMBER STARTING OUT TO BE A TRICKY FORECAST...AT LEAST TEMPS AND CLOUD WISE. NEAR TERM MODELS...HRRR/RAP...CONTINUE TO EXPAND THE SOUTHERN AND WESTERN EXTEND OF THE STRATUS INTO THE CWA EARLY THIS MORNING. THEN ALSO DELAYS THE DISSIPATION FROM SW TO NE LATE THIS MORNING INTO THE AFTERNOON. HAVE TRENDED FORECAST TO A MORE CLOUDY AND COOLER FORECAST OVER NORTH CENTRAL...GENERALLY EAST OF HIGHWAY 83 AND NORTH OF BBW. HIGHER CONFIDENCE THE SHALLOW STRATUS WILL REMAIN IN THE EAST WITH HIGHS ACROSS THE WEST REBOUNDING NICELY WITH SOUTHERLY WINDS DEVELOPING TO AROUND 70. STRATUS WILL HOLD TEMPS IN THE 40S THEN AS THE CLOUDS BREAK TEMPS SHOULD JUMP INTO THE 50S. ALL MODELS ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH THE SHALLOW STRATUS TO BREAK BY MID AFTERNOON...HOWEVER JUST LAST WEEK THE MODELS WERE TOO QUICK TO LIFT THE STRATUS. THUS AM CONCERNED AREAS FROM BBW TO ANW AND POINTS EAST MAY END UP COOLER THAN FORECAST. ACTIVE NORTHERN STREAM WILL PUSH PAC NW SYSTEM ACROSS THE NRN ROCKIES THEN TURNING MORE TO THE SE ACROSS THE NORTHERN PLAINS AND INTO THE SOUTHERN GREAT LAKES. THIS SYSTEM WILL FLATTEN THE RIDGE THAT HAS BROUGHT THE 70S TO THE AREA. TONIGHT A WEAK COLD FRONT WILL PUSH ACROSS THE AREA AND DROP HIGHS FOR FRIDAY INTO THE UPPER 50S TO MID 60S. ALSO EXPECTING AN INCREASE OF CLOUD COVER BEHIND THE FRONT. BY FRIDAY NIGHT THE MAIN UPPER LEVEL LOW WILL HAVE MADE IT TO N DAKOTA...WITH COOLER AIR CONTINUE TO PUSH SOUTH ACROSS THE AREA. HIGHS FOR SATURDAY WILL BE MORE WIDESPREAD 50S TO AROUND 60 IN THE SW. THEN FOR SATURDAY NIGHT AS THE LOW PUSHES SE...WILL SEE AN INCREASE OF CLOUDS OVER THE EASTERN FORECAST AREA. LIMITED MOISTURE TO WORK WITH SO WILL CONTINUE THE DRY FORECAST. SOME WEAK ISENTROPIC LIFT IS SEEN JUST TO THE EAST OF THE CWA AND WILL NEED TO BE MONITORED AS A SLIGHTLY WESTWARD TRACK OF THE SYSTEM COULD PUSH SOME LIGHT SHOWERS INTO PORTIONS OF N CENTRAL. BY SUNDAY INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK IN RESPONSE TO THE TROUGH DIGGING OVER THE SOUTHERN GREAT LAKES...A RIDGE WILL REDEVELOP ACROSS THE WEST COAST THEN BUILD TOWARDS THE ROCKIES. THIS WILL CONTINUE A NW FLOW AND POTENTIAL FOR MID AND HIGH CLOUDS BUT LITTLE IN THE WAY OF PRECIP. TEMPS WILL ALSO REBOUND BACK INTO THE 60S AND MAY EVEN RETURN TO THE LOWER 70S. TYPICALLY THIS TIME OF YEAR HIGHS SHOULD ONLY BE IN THE MID 50S. && .AVIATION... FOR THE KLBF AND KVTN TERMINALS THROUGH 12Z FRIDAY. SATELLITE TRENDS...AS WELL AS THE LATEST RAP BOUNDARY LAYER RH FIELD PUSHES LOW LEVEL STRATUS AND LIFR CIGS...TO ROUGHLY EAST OF A LINE FROM 50W OF KVTN...TO 20NE OF KLBF THROUGH AT LEAST MID MORNING THURSDAY. THIS LINE IS EXPECTED TO SLOWLY RETREAT EASTWARD INTO THE AFTERNOON HOURS...AND STRATUS MAY HAVE A HARD TIME DISSIPATING ACROSS PORTIONS OF NORTH CENTRAL NEBRASKA THIS AFTERNOON DUE TO LOW LEVEL COLD AIR ADVECTION. WITH THE KVTN TERMINAL ON THE EDGE OF THE STRATUS THIS AM...WILL SCATTER OUT IFR CIGS LATER THIS AFTERNOON IN THE 12Z TAF ISSUANCE FOR THAT TERMINAL. AT THE KLBF TERMINAL...STRATUS IS EXPECTED TO REMAIN JUST OFF TO THE EAST AND NORTHEAST OF THE AREA WITH NO IFR CONDS EXPECTED. WINDS WILL BE LIGHT FROM THE NORTHEAST THROUGH LATE MORNING...WITH A SHIFT TO THE SOUTH AND SOUTHEAST THIS AFTERNOON. WIND SPEEDS WILL BE AROUND 10 KTS OVER THE NEXT 24 HRS. AT BOTH TERMINALS...HIGH LEVEL CLOUDINESS WILL INCREASE TONIGHT AS A MID LEVEL DISTURBANCE APPROACHES THE NORTHERN ROCKIES AND A HIGH LEVEL JET STREAK PUSHES ACROSS THE CENTRAL PLAINS. && .LBF WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...NONE. && $$ SYNOPSIS/DISCUSSION...MASEK AVIATION...CLB
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS CHARLESTON WV
1003 PM EDT FRI NOV 2 2012 .SYNOPSIS... SOME LIGHT PRECIPITATION COULD LINGER IN THE MOUNTAINS TONIGHT. A LOW PRESSURE CENTER PASSES TO THE SOUTH LATE SATURDAY AND SATURDAY NIGHT. A SYSTEM PASSES SOUTH AND EAST OF THE REGION FOR MID WEEK. && .NEAR TERM /THROUGH SATURDAY/... 1000PM UPDATE... APPEARS PREV FCST THINKING STILL HOLDS TRUE. CONCERNS STILL EXIST FOR SOME PATCHY -FRDZ OVERNIGHT IN N MTNS AND WILL KEEP SOME WORDING IN WX GRIDS. 730PM UPDATE... SOLID DECK OF 4 TO 5 THSD FOOT CLDS INVADING FROM NW...AFFECTING PORTIONS OF SE OH AND N WV THIS EVE. USED LATEST RUC RH FIELDS ARND 1KM AGL AS A BASE FOR SKY GRIDS OVERNIGHT. TRICK IS SW EXTENT OF THIS CLD SHIELD. THINK MUCH OF TRI STATE AREA WILL STAY VOID OF THIS WITH JUST SOME PASSING CIRRUS. WILL ORIENT A NW TO SE AXIS FROM UNI TO CRW TO N OF BKW...AND POINTS N...TO PAINT IN MOST PESSIMISTIC SKY COVER TONIGHT. NEUTRAL TMP ADVECTION NOTED AT H85 TONIGHT ALONG THIS AXIS SO FEEL GOOD ABOUT GOING OVC ACROSS N WV. SOME LIFT BENEATH H8 ON UPSLOPE FLOW ACROSS N MTNS MAY SQUEEZE OUT A FEW -SHSN. HOWEVER...WITH STOUT SUBSIDENCE ABV -10C...AM CONCERNED FOR SOME PATCHY -FR DZ. WILL CONT MENTION IN WX GRIDS ATTM. PEAKED OUT INTO TOMORROW TO PUSH BACK POPS ACROSS NE KY/S WV UNTIL LATE AFTN BASED ON LATEST MDL RUNS. PREVIOUS DISCUSSION BELOW... AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PERIOD THE UPPER 500MB LOW PROGGED TO BE LOCATED OFF THE SOUTHERN NEW ENGLAND COAST WITH NW FLOW ALOFT OVER THE AREA. AT THE SURFACE...HIGH PRESSURE WILL BE NOSING IN FROM THE NORTHWEST. GOOD FORCING FOR SUBSIDENCE WILL CONTINUE OVER THE AREA TONIGHT ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE UPPER LOW. DESPITE THIS...WILL RAMP UP POPS AGAIN TO LOW/MID CHANCE DURING THE OVERNIGHT/EARLY MORNING HOURS IN THE EASTERN HIGH TERRAIN MAINLY WEBSTER COUNTY AND POINTS NORTHEAST WITH FAVORABLE UPSLOPE CONDITIONS AND TRAPPED LLVL MOISTURE IN PLACE. DO HAVE A CONCERN HOWEVER WITH FREEZING DRIZZLE/MIST IN THOSE AREAS. NAM/GFS/SREF SOUNDINGS ARE ALL DRY AT -10C WITH GOOD SATURATION ONLY EXTENDING TO ABOUT -7C TO -8C AND SFC TEMPS WELL BELOW FREEZING. TOUGH CALL ON THIS REGARDING PRECIP TYPE HOWEVER AS OFTENTIMES IT SEEMS SOUNDINGS IN THIS AREA WOULD INDICATE FREEZING DRIZZLE YET SNOW IS STILL THE RESULT. QPF AMOUNTS ARE IN THE TWO TO FIVE HUNDREDTHS ROUGHLY. WILL LEAVE ANY ICE ACCUM OUT OF GRIDS FOR NOW AND LET EVENING SHIFT TAKE ANOTHER LOOK WITH SUBSEQUENT DATA. PRECIP SHOULD QUICKLY WIND DOWN DURING THE MORNING HOURS ACROSS THE HIGH TERRAIN. HEIGHTS INITIALLY RISE DURING THE MORNING HOURS AS UPPER LOW CONTINUES AWAY FROM AREA BUT ANOTHER S/W TROUGH DIGGING THROUGH THE CENTRAL MISS VALLEY ESSENTIALLY TURNING THE FLOW FROM NW DURING THE MORNING TO ZONAL BY END OF PERIOD. A WARM FRONT WILL EXTEND EASTWARD FROM SFC LOW OVER WEST/CENTRAL TENN TO AROUND THE NC/VA BORDER BY LATE AFT SATURDAY. SOME WEAK ISENTROPIC LIFT IS NOTED ON 300K-305K SFCS WELL ABOVE AGL AND THE SOUNDING IS VERY WEAKLY CONVECTIVE. BUT AS PREV FCST NOTED...MUCH OF THE FORCING IS FRONTOGENETIC IN NATURE AND FLOW AT H85 AND H7 ESSENTIALLY PARALLEL TO WARM FRONT...SO NOT REALLY AN OVERRUNNING SCENARIO. ELECTED TO SLOW DOWN POPS JUST A TAD BUT PREV FCST STILL HAD A GENERAL GOOD HANDLE ON PRECIP MOVING INTO THE SW ZONES BY END OF PERIOD. && .SHORT TERM /SATURDAY NIGHT THROUGH MONDAY/... LOW PRESSURE PASSES S OF THE AREA THIS WEEKEND. ASSOCIATED WARM ADVECTION AND ISENTROPIC LIFT SPREADS PRECIPITATION INTO SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE AREA LATE SAT OR SAT EVENING DEPENDING UPON HOW LONG IT TAKES TO MOISTEN THE LOW LEVELS. EXPECT PRECIPITATION TO BE LIGHT GIVEN VERY ACUTE ANGLE ON PRESSURE ADVECTION ON THE 295 AND 300 K ISENTROPIC SURFACES. MAINLY A RAIN EVENT GIVEN THERMAL FIELDS. EVEN WHERE NEAR 0C AT H85...THERE IS NO MECHANISM TO GET SURFACE TEMPERATURES DOWN TO FREEZING ACROSS LOWLANDS. SOME SNOW IS POSSIBLE HIGH TERRAIN OF CENTRAL MOUNTAINS SAT NT BUT HAVE LOW CHANCE THERE ON NORTHERN EDGE OF SYSTEM. SYSTEM PULLS AWAY SUN BUT UPPER LEVEL S/W TROUGH WILL LIKELY KEEP SOME CLOUDS AROUND. THIS FEATURE EXITS FIRST THING MON MORNING...ALLOWING HIGH PRESSURE TO PROVIDE FOR A NICE START TO THE NEW WORK WEEK. WITH PRECIPITATION HYDROLOGICALLY INSIGNIFICANT...LOWS IN THE 20S TO AROUND FREEZING AND HIGHS IN THE 40S WHERE THE HIGH TERRAIN SNOW PACK IS...THE SLOW MELT CONTINUES...WITH NOTHING MORE THAN LOCALIZED SMALL STREAM AND CREEK ISSUES WHERE STORM DEBRIS CREATES BLOCKAGES. IT LOOKS LIKE SWE VALUES IN THE SNOW PACK ARE DOWN TO THE TWO TO FOUR INCH RANGE. BLENDED IN BIAS CORRECTED ADJMET ON TEMPERATURES EARLY ON AND THEN BIAS CORRECTED CONSALL - OVERALL NO MAJOR CHANGES INVOLVED. && .LONG TERM /MONDAY NIGHT THROUGH FRIDAY/... USED A BLEND OF THE ECMWF AND ECMWF ENSEMBLE MEAN FOR THIS PERIOD. THIS WOULD HAVE A STORM SYSTEM SOUTH AND EAST OF THE REGION POSSIBLY GRAZING THE AREA FOR MID WEEK. A WARM FRONT WOULD THEN PUSH NORTHWARD TOWARD THE END OF THE WEEK. && .AVIATION /02Z SATURDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY/... 00Z SATURDAY THRU 00Z SUNDAY... GENERAL VFR CONDITIONS EXPECTED ACROSS THE AREA FOR THE VALID PERIOD. THE ONLY EXCEPTION TO THIS WILL BE EKN...WHERE UPSLOPE FLOW AND TRAPPED LLVL MOISTURE SHOULD BE ENOUGH TO WRING OUT A SOLID MVFR CLOUD DECK WITH SOME FLURRIES OR EVEN PATCHY -FZ DZ. WILL LEAVE BOTH OF THIS OUT OF TAF ATTM DUE TO LOW CONFIDENCE BUT WILL MONITOR TRENDS. THIS SHOULD DISSIPATE DURING THE MORNING HOURS. OTHERWISE...A WEST/NORTHWEST WIND WILL CONTINUE THROUGH THE PERIOD AROUND 5 TO 10KTS OVERNIGHT...GUSTING 15 TO 20KTS ACROSS HIGH TERRAIN ON SAT. A WEAK SYS WILL PASS MAINLY TO S THRU TN VALLEY LATE SAT. HOWEVER...ENOUGH MOISTURE AND LIFT MAY ALLOW FOR SOME -SHRA ACROSS S WV/SW VA TOWARD THE END OF TAF PERIOD. FORECAST CONFIDENCE AND ALTERNATE SCENARIOS THROUGH 00Z SUNDAY... FORECAST CONFIDENCE: MEDIUM. ALTERNATE SCENARIOS: TIMING OF CIG HEIGHTS AND PRECIP CONDITIONS AT EKN MAY VARY. EXPERIMENTAL TABLE OF FLIGHT CATEGORY OBJECTIVELY SHOWS CONSISTENCY OF WFO FORECAST TO AVAILABLE MODEL INFORMATION: H = HIGH: TAF CONSISTENT WITH ALL MODELS OR ALL BUT ONE MODEL. M = MEDIUM: TAF HAS VARYING LEVEL OF CONSISTENCY WITH MODELS. L = LOW: TAF INCONSISTENT WITH ALL MODELS OR ALL BUT ONE MODEL. DATE SAT 11/03/12 UTC 1HRLY 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 EDT 1HRLY 22 23 00 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 CRW CONSISTENCY H H H H H H H H H H H H HTS CONSISTENCY H H H H H H H H H H H H BKW CONSISTENCY H H H H H H H H H H H H EKN CONSISTENCY L M M M M M M M M M M M PKB CONSISTENCY H H H H H H H H H H H H CKB CONSISTENCY H H H H H H H H H H M M AFTER 00Z SUNDAY... NO WIDESPREAD IFR EXPECTED. && .RLX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... WV...NONE. OH...NONE. KY...NONE. VA...NONE. && $$ SYNOPSIS...TRM/RPY/50 NEAR TERM...50/30 SHORT TERM...TRM LONG TERM...RPY AVIATION...30
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NWS CHARLESTON WV
800 PM EDT FRI NOV 2 2012 .SYNOPSIS... SOME LIGHT PRECIPITATION COULD LINGER IN THE MOUNTAINS TONIGHT. A LOW PRESSURE CENTER PASSES TO THE SOUTH LATE SATURDAY AND SATURDAY NIGHT. A SYSTEM PASSES SOUTH AND EAST OF THE REGION FOR MID WEEK. && .NEAR TERM /THROUGH SATURDAY/... 730PM UPDATE... SOLID DECK OF 4 TO 5 THSD FOOT CLDS INVADING FROM NW...AFFECTING PORTIONS OF SE OH AND N WV THIS EVE. USED LATEST RUC RH FIELDS ARND 1KM AGL AS A BASE FOR SKY GRIDS OVERNIGHT. TRICK IS SW EXTENT OF THIS CLD SHIELD. THINK MUCH OF TRI STATE AREA WILL STAY VOID OF THIS WITH JUST SOME PASSING CIRRUS. WILL ORIENT A NW TO SE AXIS FROM UNI TO CRW TO N OF BKW...AND POINTS N...TO PAINT IN MOST PESSIMISTIC SKY COVER TONIGHT. NEUTRAL TMP ADVECTION NOTED AT H85 TONIGHT ALONG THIS AXIS SO FEEL GOOD ABOUT GOING OVC ACROSS N WV. SOME LIFT BENEATH H8 ON UPSLOPE FLOW ACROSS N MTNS MAY SQUEEZE OUT A FEW -SHSN. HOWEVER...WITH STOUT SUBSIDENCE ABV -10C...AM CONCERNED FOR SOME PATCHY -FR DZ. WILL CONT MENTION IN WX GRIDS ATTM. PEAKED OUT INTO TOMORROW TO PUSH BACK POPS ACROSS NE KY/S WV UNTIL LATE AFTN BASED ON LATEST MDL RUNS. PREVIOUS DISCUSSION BELOW... AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PERIOD THE UPPER 500MB LOW PROGGED TO BE LOCATED OFF THE SOUTHERN NEW ENGLAND COAST WITH NW FLOW ALOFT OVER THE AREA. AT THE SURFACE...HIGH PRESSURE WILL BE NOSING IN FROM THE NORTHWEST. GOOD FORCING FOR SUBSIDENCE WILL CONTINUE OVER THE AREA TONIGHT ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE UPPER LOW. DESPITE THIS...WILL RAMP UP POPS AGAIN TO LOW/MID CHANCE DURING THE OVERNIGHT/EARLY MORNING HOURS IN THE EASTERN HIGH TERRAIN MAINLY WEBSTER COUNTY AND POINTS NORTHEAST WITH FAVORABLE UPSLOPE CONDITIONS AND TRAPPED LLVL MOISTURE IN PLACE. DO HAVE A CONCERN HOWEVER WITH FREEZING DRIZZLE/MIST IN THOSE AREAS. NAM/GFS/SREF SOUNDINGS ARE ALL DRY AT -10C WITH GOOD SATURATION ONLY EXTENDING TO ABOUT -7C TO -8C AND SFC TEMPS WELL BELOW FREEZING. TOUGH CALL ON THIS REGARDING PRECIP TYPE HOWEVER AS OFTENTIMES IT SEEMS SOUNDINGS IN THIS AREA WOULD INDICATE FREEZING DRIZZLE YET SNOW IS STILL THE RESULT. QPF AMOUNTS ARE IN THE TWO TO FIVE HUNDREDTHS ROUGHLY. WILL LEAVE ANY ICE ACCUM OUT OF GRIDS FOR NOW AND LET EVENING SHIFT TAKE ANOTHER LOOK WITH SUBSEQUENT DATA. PRECIP SHOULD QUICKLY WIND DOWN DURING THE MORNING HOURS ACROSS THE HIGH TERRAIN. HEIGHTS INITIALLY RISE DURING THE MORNING HOURS AS UPPER LOW CONTINUES AWAY FROM AREA BUT ANOTHER S/W TROUGH DIGGING THROUGH THE CENTRAL MISS VALLEY ESSENTIALLY TURNING THE FLOW FROM NW DURING THE MORNING TO ZONAL BY END OF PERIOD. A WARM FRONT WILL EXTEND EASTWARD FROM SFC LOW OVER WEST/CENTRAL TENN TO AROUND THE NC/VA BORDER BY LATE AFT SATURDAY. SOME WEAK ISENTROPIC LIFT IS NOTED ON 300K-305K SFCS WELL ABOVE AGL AND THE SOUNDING IS VERY WEAKLY CONVECTIVE. BUT AS PREV FCST NOTED...MUCH OF THE FORCING IS FRONTOGENETIC IN NATURE AND FLOW AT H85 AND H7 ESSENTIALLY PARALLEL TO WARM FRONT...SO NOT REALLY AN OVERRUNNING SCENARIO. ELECTED TO SLOW DOWN POPS JUST A TAD BUT PREV FCST STILL HAD A GENERAL GOOD HANDLE ON PRECIP MOVING INTO THE SW ZONES BY END OF PERIOD. && .SHORT TERM /SATURDAY NIGHT THROUGH MONDAY/... LOW PRESSURE PASSES S OF THE AREA THIS WEEKEND. ASSOCIATED WARM ADVECTION AND ISENTROPIC LIFT SPREADS PRECIPITATION INTO SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE AREA LATE SAT OR SAT EVENING DEPENDING UPON HOW LONG IT TAKES TO MOISTEN THE LOW LEVELS. EXPECT PRECIPITATION TO BE LIGHT GIVEN VERY ACUTE ANGLE ON PRESSURE ADVECTION ON THE 295 AND 300 K ISENTROPIC SURFACES. MAINLY A RAIN EVENT GIVEN THERMAL FIELDS. EVEN WHERE NEAR 0C AT H85...THERE IS NO MECHANISM TO GET SURFACE TEMPERATURES DOWN TO FREEZING ACROSS LOWLANDS. SOME SNOW IS POSSIBLE HIGH TERRAIN OF CENTRAL MOUNTAINS SAT NT BUT HAVE LOW CHANCE THERE ON NORTHERN EDGE OF SYSTEM. SYSTEM PULLS AWAY SUN BUT UPPER LEVEL S/W TROUGH WILL LIKELY KEEP SOME CLOUDS AROUND. THIS FEATURE EXITS FIRST THING MON MORNING...ALLOWING HIGH PRESSURE TO PROVIDE FOR A NICE START TO THE NEW WORK WEEK. WITH PRECIPITATION HYDROLOGICALLY INSIGNIFICANT...LOWS IN THE 20S TO AROUND FREEZING AND HIGHS IN THE 40S WHERE THE HIGH TERRAIN SNOW PACK IS...THE SLOW MELT CONTINUES...WITH NOTHING MORE THAN LOCALIZED SMALL STREAM AND CREEK ISSUES WHERE STORM DEBRIS CREATES BLOCKAGES. IT LOOKS LIKE SWE VALUES IN THE SNOW PACK ARE DOWN TO THE TWO TO FOUR INCH RANGE. BLENDED IN BIAS CORRECTED ADJMET ON TEMPERATURES EARLY ON AND THEN BIAS CORRECTED CONSALL - OVERALL NO MAJOR CHANGES INVOLVED. && .LONG TERM /MONDAY NIGHT THROUGH FRIDAY/... USED A BLEND OF THE ECMWF AND ECMWF ENSEMBLE MEAN FOR THIS PERIOD. THIS WOULD HAVE A STORM SYSTEM SOUTH AND EAST OF THE REGION POSSIBLY GRAZING THE AREA FOR MID WEEK. A WARM FRONT WOULD THEN PUSH NORTHWARD TOWARD THE END OF THE WEEK. && .AVIATION /00Z SATURDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY/... 00Z SATURDAY THRU 00Z SUNDAY... GENERAL VFR CONDITIONS EXPECTED ACROSS THE AREA FOR THE VALID PERIOD. THE ONLY EXCEPTION TO THIS WILL BE EKN...WHERE UPSLOPE FLOW AND TRAPPED LLVL MOISTURE SHOULD BE ENOUGH TO WRING OUT A SOLID MVFR CLOUD DECK WITH SOME FLURRIES OR EVEN PATCHY -FZ DZ. WILL LEAVE BOTH OF THIS OUT OF TAF ATTM DUE TO LOW CONFIDENCE BUT WILL MONITOR TRENDS. THIS SHOULD DISSIPATE DURING THE MORNING HOURS. OTHERWISE...A WEST/NORTHWEST WIND WILL CONTINUE THROUGH THE PERIOD AROUND 5 TO 10KTS OVERNIGHT...GUSTING 15 TO 20KTS ACROSS HIGH TERRAIN ON SAT. A WEAK SYS WILL PASS MAINLY TO S THRU TN VALLEY LATE SAT. HOWEVER...ENOUGH MOISTURE AND LIFT MAY ALLOW FOR SOME -SHRA ACROSS S WV/SW VA TOWARD THE END OF TAF PERIOD. FORECAST CONFIDENCE AND ALTERNATE SCENARIOS THROUGH 00Z SUNDAY... FORECAST CONFIDENCE: MEDIUM. ALTERNATE SCENARIOS: TIMING OF CIG HEIGHTS AND PRECIP CONDITIONS AT EKN MAY VARY. EXPERIMENTAL TABLE OF FLIGHT CATEGORY OBJECTIVELY SHOWS CONSISTENCY OF WFO FORECAST TO AVAILABLE MODEL INFORMATION: H = HIGH: TAF CONSISTENT WITH ALL MODELS OR ALL BUT ONE MODEL. M = MEDIUM: TAF HAS VARYING LEVEL OF CONSISTENCY WITH MODELS. L = LOW: TAF INCONSISTENT WITH ALL MODELS OR ALL BUT ONE MODEL. DATE SAT 11/03/12 UTC 1HRLY 00 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 EDT 1HRLY 20 21 22 23 00 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 CRW CONSISTENCY H H H H H H H H H H H H HTS CONSISTENCY H H H H H H H H H H H H BKW CONSISTENCY H H H H H H H H H H H H EKN CONSISTENCY H H M M M M M M M L L L PKB CONSISTENCY H H H H H H H H H H H H CKB CONSISTENCY H H H H H H H H H H H H AFTER 00Z SUNDAY... NO WIDESPREAD IFR EXPECTED. && .RLX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... WV...NONE. OH...NONE. KY...NONE. VA...NONE. && $$ SYNOPSIS...TRM/RPY/50 NEAR TERM...50/30 SHORT TERM...TRM LONG TERM...RPY AVIATION...50/30
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS PORTLAND OR
915 PM PDT WED OCT 31 2012 .SYNOPSIS...UNSTABLE WESTERLY FLOW WILL PRODUCE NUMEROUS SHOWERS TONIGHT...THAT SHOULD GRADUALLY END LATE THURSDAY AFTERNOON INTO THURSDAY EVENING. A WEAKENING COLD FRONT WILL ARRIVE FRIDAY NIGHT AND PRODUCE A FEW SHOWERS...PRIMARILY NORTH OF THE COLUMBIA RIVER. A WARM FRONT WILL THEN PUSH INTO WASHINGTON LATE SATURDAY...BRINGING ADDITIONAL RAIN SHOWERS TO AREAS PRIMARILY NORTH OF SALEM. HIGH PRESSURE SHOULD PROVIDE A BREAK FROM THE WET WEATHER FOR ALL AREAS ON SUNDAY. && .SHORT TERM...SATELLITE IMAGERY REVEALS A LOW PRESSURE INSIDE 130W APPROACHING THE CENTRAL OREGON COAST THIS EVENING. SURFACE ANALYSIS INDICATES THIS LOW IS UNDERGOING CYCLOLYSIS. HOWEVER...ANOTHER EMBEDDED VORT MAX AND MINI TROUGH AXIS IS SWINGING NORTHEASTWARD AROUND THE BASE OF THE LARGER TROUGH AND PROVIDING A FOCUS FOR AN AREA OF CONVECTION THAT IS JUST BEGINNING TO PUSH ONTO THE SOUTH CENTRAL OREGON COAST. ISOLATED THUNDERSTORMS CONTINUE TO PERIODICALLY PULSE UP IN THIS AREA OF SHOWERS. EXPECT THIS COMPLEX OF SHOWERS TO SPREAD NORTHEASTWARD ACROSS MOST OF THE CWA OVER THE NEXT 1 TO 4 HRS. MODELS GENERALLY INDICATE THUNDER SHOULD REMAIN NEAR THE COAST AND OVER THE WATER SO ONLY MADE MINOR TWEAKS TO THUNDER COVERAGE AND WORDING. SUBSIDENCE BEHIND THIS EMBEDDED SHORTWAVE TROUGH SHOULD RESULT IN A BRIEF BREAK IN SHOWERS DURING THE EARLY MORNING HOURS...PARTICULARLY ACROSS THE SOUTHERN WILLAMETTE VALLEY WHERE SHADOWING WILL BE STRONGEST. SATELLITE EXTRAPOLATION AND THE LATEST HRRR RUNS SUGGEST ANOTHER WIDESPREAD BATCH OF SHOWERS CURRENTLY ASSOCIATED WITH THE SURFACE LOW SHOULD SPREAD INLAND AFTER 09Z OR SO. SPLIT OVERNIGHT POP GRIDS INTO 3 HR SEGMENTS TO TRY AND REFLECT THIS GENERAL EVOLUTION. MODELS DO SUGGEST WINDS WILL PICK UP ALONG THE COAST AS THE SURFACE LOW APPROACHES. THE RUC...WHOSE WINDS WILL A LITTLE ON THE HIGH SIDE LAST NIGHT...KEEPS 925MB 10 KTS LOWER THAN LAST NIGHT SO EVEN WINDIER LOCATIONS LIKE GARIBALDI SHOULD STAY WELL BELOW HIGH WIND CRITERIA. AS THE LOW SPREADS INLAND...THE PRESSURE GRADIENT WILL BECOME MORE SOUTH TO NORTH SO EXPECT BREEZY SOUTH WINDS WITH GUSTS UP TO 30 TO 35 MPH ACROSS THE WILLAMETTE VALLEY LATE TONIGHT INTO THURSDAY MORNING. WIND GUSTS LOOK TO REMAIN BELOW ADVISORY CRITERIA. DEEP UNSTABLE WEST TO SOUTHWESTERLY FLOW SHOULD RESULT IN SCATTERED SHOWERS MOVING ACROSS THE AREA THURSDAY MORNING. A CONVERGENCE ZONE IN SOME SHAPE OR FORM MAY SET UP SOMEWHERE NORTH OF THE COLUMBIA RIVER AS WINDS COMING DOWN THE WILLAMETTE VALLEY COLLIDE WITH WINDS COMING UP THE COLUMBIA RIVER. THIS COULD PROVIDE A FOCUS FOR HEAVIER PRECIPITATION ACROSS THE SOUTH WASHINGTON CASCADES...BUT THE WHERE AND IF THIS WILL DEVELOP REMAINS UNCERTAIN AT BEST. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE CYCLOGENESIS TO OUR EAST...BUT THE UPPER LEVEL PATTERN IS SOMEWHAT REMINISCENT OF A SIMILAR EVENT THIS PAST SPRING THAT PRODUCED LOCALLY HEAVY RAIN OVER VANCOUVER AND POINTS EAST. EITHER WAY...SHOWERS THURSDAY AFTERNOON INTO THURSDAY EVENING SHOULD GRADUALLY BECOME MORE CONFINED TO THE WINDWARD SLOPES OF THE COAST RANGE AND CASCADE FOOTHILLS AS A SUBSIDENCE INVERSION LOWERS. WITH SKIES ATTEMPTING TO CLEAR THURSDAY NIGHT...AREAS OF FOG WILL BECOME AN INCREASING CONCERN FOR INTERIOR VALLEYS. TWEAKED THE AREAL COVERAGE TO EMPHASIZE THE ELEVATIONAL DEPENDENCE OF FOG DEVELOPMENT. THE REST OF THE FORECAST APPEARS LARGELY ON TRACK AND NO CHANGES WERE MADE. /NEUMAN .LONG TERM...THE EXTENDED FORECAST FOR SATURDAY NIGHT THROUGH WEDNESDAY WILL BE DOMINATED BY AN UPPER LEVEL RIDGE BUILDING IN FROM THE SOUTH...WHICH WILL HELP TO BLOCK THE EASTWARD PROGRESSION OF A CLOSED UPPER LEVEL LOW OVER THE GULF OF ALASKA. A FEW WEAK SHORT WAVE DISTURBANCES WILL RIDE OVER THE TOP OF THE RIDGE...BUT MOST OF THE PRECIPITATION ASSOCIATED WITH THE WAVES WILL REMAIN WELL TO OUR NORTH...MAINLY AFFECTING N WA AND BRITISH COLUMBIA. HOWEVER...SOME LIGHT PRECIPITATION IS POSSIBLE FROM TIME TO TIME...ESPECIALLY FOR THE NORTHERN COASTAL LOCATIONS SUNDAY NIGHT INTO MONDAY. EXPECT TEMPS TO CONTINUE RUNNING SLIGHTLY ABOVE NORMAL WITH PRECIPITATION FALLING AS SNOW ONLY ON THE HIGHEST CASCADE PEAKS. && .AVIATION...A SURFACE LOW PRESSURE CENTER AND UPPER LEVEL TROUGH WILL MOVE THROUGH THE FORECAST AREA TONIGHT KEEPING THE AIRMASS UNSTABLE WITH PLENTY OF SHOWERS. COASTAL SITES WILL BE MAINLY MVFR WITH SHOWERS. THERE IS A THREAT FOR A FEW THUNDERSTORMS ALONG THE COAST THROUGH THURSDAY MORNING. INLAND WILL REMAIN MAINLY VFR WITH OCCASIONAL MVFR IN SHOWERS THROUGH THU MORNING. SHOWERS WILL DIMINISH THURSDAY AFTERNOON. KPDX AND APPROACHES...MOSTLY VFR CONDITIONS CONTINUE OVER THE NEXT 24 HRS...EXCEPT MVFR CIGS ARE POSSIBLE IN HEAVIER SHOWERS. SHOWERS WILL DIMINISH THURSDAY AFTERNOON. && .MARINE...A SURFACE LOW PRESSURE CENTER AND UPPER LEVEL TROUGH OVER THE WATERS TONIGHT WILL SHIFT INLAND THU MORNING. ADVISORY LEVEL WINDS WILL CONTINUE THROUGH THU MORNING. A FEW THUNDERSTORMS ARE POSSIBLE OVER THE WATERS WITH THIS UPPER LEVEL TROUGH. EXPECT SEAS IN THE 10 TO 12 FT RANGE THROUGH MID-DAY THURSDAY...THEN STAY BELOW ADVISORY LEVELS UNTIL THE WEEKEND. && .PQR WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... OR...NONE. WA...NONE. PZ...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY FOR WINDS UNTIL 11 AM PDT THURSDAY FOR COASTAL WATERS FROM CAPE SHOALWATER WA TO FLORENCE OR OUT 60 NM. SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY FOR HAZARDOUS SEAS UNTIL 11 AM PDT THURSDAY FOR COASTAL WATERS FROM CAPE SHOALWATER WA TO FLORENCE OR OUT 60 NM. SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY FOR ROUGH COLUMBIA RIVER BAR UNTIL 9 AM PDT THURSDAY. SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY FOR ROUGH COLUMBIA RIVER BAR FROM 5 PM TO 9 PM PDT THURSDAY. && $$ MORE WEATHER INFORMATION ONLINE AT...HTTP://WEATHER.GOV/PORTLAND THIS DISCUSSION IS FOR NORTHWEST OREGON AND SOUTHWEST WASHINGTON FROM THE CASCADE CREST TO 60 NAUTICAL MILES OFFSHORE. THE AREA IS COMMONLY REFERRED TO AS THE FORECAST AREA.
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS PORTLAND OR
905 PM PDT WED OCT 31 2012 .SYNOPSIS...UNSTABLE WESTERLY FLOW WILL PRODUCE NUMEROUS SHOWERS TONIGHT...THAT SHOULD GRADUALLY END LATE THURSDAY AFTERNOON INTO THURSDAY EVENING. A WEAKENING COLD FRONT WILL ARRIVE FRIDAY NIGHT AND PRODUCE A FEW SHOWERS...PRIMARILY NORTH OF THE COLUMBIA RIVER. A WARM FRONT WILL THEN PUSH INTO WASHINGTON LATE SATURDAY...BRINGING ADDITIONAL RAIN SHOWERS TO AREAS PRIMARILY NORTH OF SALEM. HIGH PRESSURE SHOULD PROVIDE A BREAK FROM THE WET WEATHER FOR ALL AREAS ON SUNDAY. && .SHORT TERM...SATELLITE IMAGERY REVEALS A LOW PRESSURE INSIDE 130W APPROACHING THE CENTRAL OREGON COAST THIS EVENING. SURFACE ANALYSIS INDICATES THIS LOW IS UNDERGOING CYCLOLYSIS. HOWEVER...ANOTHER EMBEDDED VORT MAX AND MINI TROUGH AXIS IS SWINGING NORTHEASTWARD AROUND THE BASE OF THE LARGER TROUGH AND PROVIDING A FOCUS FOR AN AREA OF CONVECTION THAT IS JUST BEGINNING TO PUSH ONTO THE SOUTH CENTRAL OREGON COAST. ISOLATED THUNDERSTORMS CONTINUE TO PERIODICALLY PULSE UP IN THIS AREA OF SHOWERS. EXPECT THIS COMPLEX OF SHOWERS TO SPREAD NORTHEASTWARD ACROSS MOST OF THE CWA OVER THE NEXT 1 TO 4 HRS. MODELS GENERALLY INDICATE THUNDER SHOULD REMAIN NEAR THE COAST AND OVER THE WATER SO ONLY MADE MINOR TWEAKS TO THUNDER COVERAGE AND WORDING. SUBSIDENCE BEHIND THIS EMBEDDED SHORTWAVE TROUGH SHOULD RESULT IN A BRIEF BREAK IN SHOWERS DURING THE EARLY MORNING HOURS...PARTICULARLY ACROSS THE SOUTHERN WILLAMETTE VALLEY WHERE SHADOWING WILL BE STRONGEST. SATELLITE EXTRAPOLATION AND THE LATEST HRRR RUNS SUGGEST ANOTHER WIDESPREAD BATCH OF SHOWERS CURRENTLY ASSOCIATED WITH THE SURFACE LOW SHOULD SPREAD INLAND AFTER 09Z OR SO. SPLIT OVERNIGHT POP GRIDS INTO 3 HR SEGMENTS TO TRY AND REFLECT THIS GENERAL EVOLUTION. MODELS DO SUGGEST WINDS WILL PICK UP ALONG THE COAST AS THE SURFACE LOW APPROACHES. THE RUC...WHOSE WINDS WILL A LITTLE ON THE HIGH SIDE LAST NIGHT...KEEPS 925MB 10 KTS LOWER THAN LAST NIGHT SO EVEN WINDIER LOCATIONS LIKE GARIBALDI SHOULD STAY WELL BELOW HIGH WIND CRITERIA. AS THE LOW SPREADS INLAND...THE PRESSURE GRADIENT WILL BECOME MORE NORTH-SOUTH SO EXPECT SOME BREEZY SOUTH WINDS WITH GUSTS UP TO 30 TO 35 KT ACROSS THE WILLAMETTE VALLEY LATE TONIGHT INTO THURSDAY MORNING. WINDS LOOK TO REMAIN BELOW ADVISORY CRITERIA THOUGH. DEEP UNSTABLE WEST TO SOUTHWESTERLY FLOW SHOULD RESULT IN SCATTERED SHOWERS MOVING ACROSS THE AREA THURSDAY MORNING. A CONVERGENCE ZONE IN SOME SHAPE OR FORM MAY SET UP SOMEWHERE NORTH OF THE COLUMBIA RIVER AS WINDS COMING DOWN THE WILLAMETTE VALLEY COLLIDE WITH WINDS COMING UP THE COLUMBIA RIVER. THIS COULD PROVIDE A FOCUS FOR HEAVIER PRECIPITATION ACROSS THE SOUTH WASHINGTON CASCADES...BUT THE WHERE AND IF THIS WILL DEVELOP REMAINS UNCERTAIN AT BEST. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE CYCLOGENESIS TO OUR EAST...BUT THE UPPER LEVEL PATTERN IS SOMEWHAT REMINISCENT OF A SIMILAR EVENT THIS PAST SPRING THAT PRODUCED LOCALLY HEAVY RAIN OVER VANCOUVER AND POINTS EAST. EITHER WAY...SHOWERS THURSDAY AFTERNOON INTO THURSDAY EVENING SHOULD GRADUALLY BECOME MORE CONFINED TO THE WINDWARD SLOPES OF THE COAST RANGE AND CASCADE FOOTHILLS AS A SUBSIDENCE INVERSION LOWERS. WITH SKIES ATTEMPTING TO CLEAR THURSDAY NIGHT...AREAS OF FOG WILL BECOME AN INCREASING CONCERN FOR INTERIOR VALLEYS. TWEAKED THE AREAL COVERAGE TO EMPHASIZE THE ELEVATIONAL DEPENDENCE OF FOG DEVELOPMENT. THE REST OF THE FORECAST APPEARS LARGELY ON TRACK AND NO CHANGES WERE MADE. /NEUMAN .LONG TERM...THE EXTENDED FORECAST FOR SATURDAY NIGHT THROUGH WEDNESDAY WILL BE DOMINATED BY AN UPPER LEVEL RIDGE BUILDING IN FROM THE SOUTH...WHICH WILL HELP TO BLOCK THE EASTWARD PROGRESSION OF A CLOSED UPPER LEVEL LOW OVER THE GULF OF ALASKA. A FEW WEAK SHORT WAVE DISTURBANCES WILL RIDE OVER THE TOP OF THE RIDGE...BUT MOST OF THE PRECIPITATION ASSOCIATED WITH THE WAVES WILL REMAIN WELL TO OUR NORTH...MAINLY AFFECTING N WA AND BRITISH COLUMBIA. HOWEVER...SOME LIGHT PRECIPITATION IS POSSIBLE FROM TIME TO TIME...ESPECIALLY FOR THE NORTHERN COASTAL LOCATIONS SUNDAY NIGHT INTO MONDAY. EXPECT TEMPS TO CONTINUE RUNNING SLIGHTLY ABOVE NORMAL WITH PRECIPITATION FALLING AS SNOW ONLY ON THE HIGHEST CASCADE PEAKS. && .AVIATION...A SURFACE LOW PRESSURE CENTER AND UPPER LEVEL TROUGH WILL MOVE THROUGH THE FORECAST AREA TONIGHT KEEPING THE AIRMASS UNSTABLE WITH PLENTY OF SHOWERS. COASTAL SITES WILL BE MAINLY MVFR WITH SHOWERS. THERE IS A THREAT FOR A FEW THUNDERSTORMS ALONG THE COAST THROUGH THURSDAY MORNING. INLAND WILL REMAIN MAINLY VFR WITH OCCASIONAL MVFR IN SHOWERS THROUGH THU MORNING. SHOWERS WILL DIMINISH THURSDAY AFTERNOON. KPDX AND APPROACHES...MOSTLY VFR CONDITIONS CONTINUE OVER THE NEXT 24 HRS...EXCEPT MVFR CIGS ARE POSSIBLE IN HEAVIER SHOWERS. SHOWERS WILL DIMINISH THURSDAY AFTERNOON. && .MARINE...A SURFACE LOW PRESSURE CENTER AND UPPER LEVEL TROUGH OVER THE WATERS TONIGHT WILL SHIFT INLAND THU MORNING. ADVISORY LEVEL WINDS WILL CONTINUE THROUGH THU MORNING. A FEW THUNDERSTORMS ARE POSSIBLE OVER THE WATERS WITH THIS UPPER LEVEL TROUGH. EXPECT SEAS IN THE 10 TO 12 FT RANGE THROUGH MID-DAY THURSDAY...THEN STAY BELOW ADVISORY LEVELS UNTIL THE WEEKEND. && .PQR WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... OR...NONE. WA...NONE. PZ...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY FOR WINDS UNTIL 11 AM PDT THURSDAY FOR COASTAL WATERS FROM CAPE SHOALWATER WA TO FLORENCE OR OUT 60 NM. SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY FOR HAZARDOUS SEAS UNTIL 11 AM PDT THURSDAY FOR COASTAL WATERS FROM CAPE SHOALWATER WA TO FLORENCE OR OUT 60 NM. SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY FOR ROUGH COLUMBIA RIVER BAR UNTIL 9 AM PDT THURSDAY. SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY FOR ROUGH COLUMBIA RIVER BAR FROM 5 PM TO 9 PM PDT THURSDAY. && $$ MORE WEATHER INFORMATION ONLINE AT...HTTP://WEATHER.GOV/PORTLAND THIS DISCUSSION IS FOR NORTHWEST OREGON AND SOUTHWEST WASHINGTON FROM THE CASCADE CREST TO 60 NAUTICAL MILES OFFSHORE. THE AREA IS COMMONLY REFERRED TO AS THE FORECAST AREA.
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION FOR WESTERN SD AND NORTHEASTERN WY
NWS RAPID CITY SD
1112 PM MDT WED OCT 31 2012 .AVIATION...06Z TAFS IFR/LIFR STRATUS ACROSS NORTHWEST SOUTH DAKOTA WILL SPREAD ACROSS THE REST OF WESTERN/SOUTH CENTRAL SOUTH DAKOTA OVERNIGHT. LIFR VSBY LIKELY FROM K2WX-KRAP WHERE STRATUS INTERSECTS THE HIGHER TERRAIN. CONDITIONS WILL SLOWLY IMPROVE THURSDAY MORNING...HOWEVER MVFR/LCL IFR CIGS SHOULD PERSIST ACROSS NORTHWEST SOUTH DAKOTA INTO THURSDAY AFTERNOON. GUSTY SOUTH WINDS WILL DEVELOP ACROSS NORTHEAST WYOMING OVERNIGHT AND PERSIST THROUGH THURSDAY MORNING. && .PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 710 PM MDT WED OCT 31 2012/ DISCUSSION...CURRENT SURFACE MAP SHOWS COLD FRONT ACROSS NORTHERN SOUTH DAKOTA BACK INTO EASTERN MONTANA. SATELLITE HAS EXTENSIVE AREA OF LOW STRATUS BEHIND THE FRONT. FORECAST UPDATE THIS EVENING REVOLVES AROUND THE STRATUS SPREADING ACROSS NORTHWEST SOUTH DAKOTA. 18Z NAM/21Z RAP SOUNDINGS SUPPORT SOLID STRATUS DECK SPREADING INTO WESTERN AND SOUTH CENTRAL SOUTH DAKOTA OVERNIGHT. 00Z KBIS/KGGW SOUNDINGS PUT THE TOP OF STRATUS DECK AROUND 4000FT MSL. DEPTH OF STRATUS WILL ALLOW IT TO INTERSECT THE HIGHER TERRAIN ACROSS NORTHWEST SOUTH DAKOTA AND THE NORTHERN/EASTERN SLOPES OF THE BLACK HILLS. THIS WILL RESULT IN REDUCED VISIBILITIES. FORECAST UPDATED TO INCREASE CLOUD COVER WITH THE STRATUS AND ALSO ADD MENTION OF FOG. THE STRATUS SHOULD CLEAR OUT SOME THURSDAY MORNING AS SOUTHEAST WINDS INCREASE...BUT WILL HAVE A BIG IMPACT ON HIGH TEMPERATURES FOR THE RAPID CITY AREA IF IT DOES NOT CLEAR OUT. PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 234 PM MDT WED OCT 31 2012/ LONG WAVE RIDGE NEAR 110W WILL SHARPEN AND MOVE TO NEAR 105W BY 12Z THURSDAY AND THEN FLATTEN WITH APPROACH OF NEXT SHORT WAVE TROF. SHORT WAVE WILL INTENSIFY AS IT DIGS SOUTHEAST WARD AFTER CROSSING THE RIDGE ON FRIDAY...BUT MOST OF THE LIFT WILL REMAIN NORTH AND EAST OF OUR CWA. LOWERED POPS ON FRIDAY AS A CONSEQUENCE. AS NORTHERLY LOW LEVEL FLOW INCREASES TONIGHT...WINDS IN THE BOUNDARY LAYER WILL TURN SLIGHTLY NORTHEASTWARD ADVECTING COOLER...MORE MOIST AIR INTO OUR NORTHEASTERN COUNTIES. LOW STRATUS WILL MOVE INTO THE AREA...PROBABLY REACHING THE BLACK HILLS AND RAPID CITY AREA FOR A BRIEF PERIOD AROUND AND JUST AFTER SUNRISE ON THURSDAY. WITH APPROACH OF NEXT SHORT WAVE SOUTHERLY LOW LEVEL FLOW WILL DEVELOP QUICKLY THURSDAY LATE MORNING INTO AFTERNOON...DISSIPATING LOW CLOUDS GRADUALLY FROM SOUTH AND WEST TO NORTH AND EAST. EXTENDED...UPPER LEVEL TROUGH/LOW WILL SLIDE EAST OF THE AREA THIS WEEKEND...WITH BROAD RIDGE SHIFTING INTO THE WESTERN CONUS. MAINLY DRY AND MILD WEATHER IS EXPECTED FOR THE WEEKEND INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK. HIGH TEMPERATURES WILL WARM FROM THE 40S AND 50S ON SATURDAY INTO THE 50S AND 60S FOR EARLY NEXT WEEK. && .UNR WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... SD...NONE. WY...NONE. && $$ SHORT TERM...07 LONG TERM....WFO UNR AVIATION...07
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS SPOKANE WA
637 PM PDT Fri Nov 2 2012 .SYNOPSIS... A drying and warming trend will slowly return to much of the Columbia Basin courtesy of a strengthening ridge of high pressure. Weak systems brushing the ridge will bring some light rain at times to the Cascades and mountains near the Canadian border. Much cooler and unsettled weather will likely arrive by the end of the week. Temperatures will likely be cold enough that most of the precipitation will fall as snow. && .DISCUSSION... Update: forecast update sent to increase PoPs and coverage from the west through the rest of the night. Regional radar trends show a modest band of precipitation from northwest Washington to north- central Oregon. Some of the heavier precipitation has been found west of Yakima, at least in terms of the reflectivity signal. Latest HRRR runs and radar extrapolation brings this precipitation into the western CWA between 03-06Z (8 PM to 11 PM) and eastward through the remainder of the night. The quandary: how well will it hold together as it moves off the higher terrain? I expect it will weaken some, limiting how much actually is capable of being measured/reaching the ground. However the radar returns warrant at least adding scattered to isolated showers across the Basin this evening, expanding through Spokane area and Palouse late tonight into the overnight in isolated fashion. I added some fog near the Cascades and the Basin Saturday morning, where some cloud breaks are possible late in the overnight. With incoming mid and high clouds determining coverage and intensity and duration of any fog will be difficult. As such I left it as only patchy fog. /J. Cote` && .AVIATION... 00Z TAFS: Currently clouds are on the increase for sites closer to the Cascades while the eastern TAF sites begin to clear out. Have a chance for VCSH for EAT around 02Z as a weak system moves over the Cascade crest. As the system moves to the east..only expect clouds for eastern TAF sites. Lowered CIGS to MVFR for KSFF and KGEG sites as the system moves from east to west. Have included fog for sites KEAT..KMWH..KCOE and KLWS but confidence is low as to whether cloud cover could limit this. Due to fog went ahead and lowered VIS to have IFR conditions for identified sites. /Fliehman && .PRELIMINARY POINT TEMPS/POPS... Spokane 42 55 44 56 45 59 / 20 20 20 20 10 10 Coeur d`Alene 41 54 43 56 44 58 / 20 30 30 20 10 10 Pullman 44 58 45 57 46 62 / 20 20 10 20 10 0 Lewiston 44 60 47 61 48 64 / 20 10 10 20 0 0 Colville 44 54 43 57 43 61 / 30 40 40 40 20 20 Sandpoint 42 52 44 54 41 58 / 20 50 60 50 20 20 Kellogg 38 47 42 50 43 55 / 20 30 30 30 10 20 Moses Lake 42 58 45 61 45 60 / 50 10 10 10 0 0 Wenatchee 44 55 48 61 46 59 / 50 10 10 10 10 10 Omak 45 55 44 59 43 59 / 50 20 20 20 10 10 && .OTX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... ID...None. WA...None. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS SPOKANE WA
1041 PM PDT Wed Oct 31 2012 .SYNOPSIS... A frontal system will spread rain into eastern Washington and north Idaho tonight. Thursday will be a showery and breezy day, with drier but continued mostly cloudy conditions through the weekend. No significant storm systems are expected through the region until late next week. && .DISCUSSION... Update: Low pressure continues to rotate off the WA/OR coastline, while the occluded front pushes across the Cascades. Moisture deepening along and ahead of the front is starting to saturate the atmosphere and showers are increasing over the Basin to Okanogan highlands. These will expand eastward through the early overnight as the occluded front moves through. However mainly light precipitation amounts are expected. NAM/SREF and HRRR 3KM data shows a couple waves of precipitation through Thursday morning, with brief breaks between both. The first one as described above and a second round of precipitation that should develop later in the overnight around the Cascades and Basin, after about 2-3 AM, before expanding east toward the eastern third of Washington and north Idaho late in the overnight and early Thursday morning. Getting the above timing described in the ZFP is difficult, so looking at the PFM or posted grids might give better resolution to the above thinking. Otherwise the forecast is on track, save for minor adjustments to reduce overnight lows a tad over the northeast and to add patchy fog over the northeast valleys and over the Basin. /J. Cote` && .AVIATION... 06Z TAFS: A occluded/cold front will pass through the area through the early overnight. Light rain continue to develop along and ahead of it, expanding across the eastern TAF sites between 06-09z. Precipitation is then expected to redevelop from the west later overnight into Thursday as the primary low moves inland. Expect occasional VFR/occasional MVFR and VIS with the first round of precipitation, then MVFR and areas of IFR cigs with the second round of precipitation. By Thursday afternoon conditions will improve to VFR over the west and VFR/MVFR over the east, with wind becoming gusty, but generally less than 25 kts. Then after dark winds and the threat of precipitation as wanes. Yet low level moisture and continued southerly flow will bring a threat of IFR stratus over the eastern TAFs. /J. Cote` && .PRELIMINARY POINT TEMPS/POPS... Spokane 46 51 42 53 40 56 / 60 70 30 10 0 10 Coeur d`Alene 46 50 42 53 38 56 / 70 80 50 10 0 10 Pullman 46 53 41 55 42 59 / 60 80 40 10 0 0 Lewiston 48 58 44 60 43 60 / 60 70 40 10 0 0 Colville 45 52 41 51 38 54 / 60 70 30 10 10 10 Sandpoint 42 50 43 52 37 54 / 70 80 60 10 10 10 Kellogg 45 46 41 50 37 51 / 80 90 80 20 10 10 Moses Lake 46 57 39 56 41 58 / 60 50 10 10 0 10 Wenatchee 46 56 42 54 42 57 / 60 30 10 10 0 10 Omak 45 53 39 54 42 55 / 60 60 10 10 10 20 && .OTX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... ID...None. WA...None. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS SPOKANE WA
924 PM PDT Wed Oct 31 2012 .SYNOPSIS... A frontal system will spread rain into eastern Washington and north Idaho tonight. Thursday will be a showery and breezy day, with drier but continued mostly cloudy conditions through the weekend. No significant storm systems are expected through the region until late next week. && .DISCUSSION... Update: Low pressure continues to rotate off the WA/OR coastline, while the occluded front pushes across the Cascades. Moisture deepening along and ahead of the front is starting to saturate the atmosphere and showers are increasing over the Basin to Okanogan highlands. These will expand eastward through the early overnight as the occluded front moves through. However mainly light precipitation amounts are expected. NAM/SREF and HRRR 3KM data shows a couple waves of precipitation through Thursday morning, with brief breaks between both. The first one as described above and a second round of precipitation that should develop later in the overnight around the Cascades and Basin, after about 2-3 AM, before expanding east toward the eastern third of Washington and north Idaho late in the overnight and early Thursday morning. Getting the above timing described in the ZFP is difficult, so looking at the PFM or posted grids might give better resolution to the above thinking. Otherwise the forecast is on track, save for minor adjustments to reduce overnight lows a tad over the northeast and to add patchy fog over the northeast valleys and over the Basin. /J. Cote` && .AVIATION... 00Z TAFS: A occluded/cold front will pass through the area this evening and early overnight. Light rain will develop from west to east between 00-06z, before briefly shifting to southeast WA and north ID and backing against the Cascades during the early overnight. Precipitation is then expected to redevelop from the west later overnight into Thursday as the primary low moves inland. Expect occasional MVFR/isolated IFR cigs with the first round of precipitation, then MVFR/areas of IFR cigs and VIS with the second round of precipitation. By Thursday afternoon conditions will improve to IFR over the west and IFR/MVFR over the east, with wind becoming gusty increasing, but generally less than 25 kts. /J. Cote` && .PRELIMINARY POINT TEMPS/POPS... Spokane 46 51 42 53 40 56 / 60 70 30 10 0 10 Coeur d`Alene 46 50 42 53 38 56 / 70 80 50 10 0 10 Pullman 46 53 41 55 42 59 / 60 80 40 10 0 0 Lewiston 48 58 44 60 43 60 / 60 70 40 10 0 0 Colville 45 52 41 51 38 54 / 60 70 30 10 10 10 Sandpoint 42 50 43 52 37 54 / 70 80 60 10 10 10 Kellogg 45 46 41 50 37 51 / 80 90 80 20 10 10 Moses Lake 46 57 39 56 41 58 / 60 50 10 10 0 10 Wenatchee 46 56 42 54 42 57 / 60 30 10 10 0 10 Omak 45 53 39 54 42 55 / 60 60 10 10 10 20 && .OTX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... ID...None. WA...None. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS LA CROSSE WI
1144 AM CDT THU NOV 1 2012 .SHORT TERM... 1143 AM CDT THU NOV 1 2012 HAVE ADDED RAIN SHOWERS TO THE FORECAST FOR THIS AFTERNOON NORTHEAST OF I-94. SOUNDINGS FROM THE RAP THIS MORNING CONTINUE TO SHOW ABOUT A 0.75 KM DEEP POSITIVE INSTABILITY LAYER IN STEEP LAPSE RATES BELOW THE INVERSION. THIS SHALLOWS AS YOU HEAD SOUTHWEST TOWARD KLSE SO HAVE LIMITED SHRA TO NORTH-CENTRAL WISCONSIN. HRRR MODEL RUNS CONTINUE TO ALSO SUGGEST SOME REFLECTIVITY THROUGH THE AFTERNOON IN THIS SAME AREA...AND SURFACE OBSERVATIONS HAVE SHOWN SOME SPRINKLES AT KHYR AND KISW THIS MORNING. DONT THINK IT IS A BIG DEAL BUT WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THESE ISOLATED SPRINKLES WOULD BE AROUND. STILL BELIEVE THE CLOUDS OVER THE SWRN TWO-THIRDS WILL BECOME MORE CELLULAR THROUGH THE AFTERNOON BUT HAVE SLOWED THE DECREASE SLIGHTLY. HAVE ALSO WARMED THE HIGHS TODAY ABOUT 2-3F SW OF I-94 WITH LESS CLOUD COVER EARLY JUMPING TEMPERATURES. .LONG TERM...SATURDAY NIGHT THROUGH WEDNESDAY 341 AM CDT THU NOV 1 2012 01.00Z GFS/ECMWF SHOWING FAIRLY GOOD AGREEMENT THROUGH TUESDAY...THEN DIVERGE A BIT TUESDAY NIGHT/WEDNESDAY WITH AMOUNT OF TROUGHING VERSUS RIDGING OVER THE AREA. WILL TREND TOWARD A BLEND APPROACH FOR NOW. MODELS SHOW TROUGH DROPPING SOUTH OF THE AREA SUNDAY WITH SUBSIDENCE BY AFTERNOON. THIS KEEPS POPS SOUTH OF THE AREA WITH DIMINISHING CLOUD TREND EXPECTED FROM NORTH TO SOUTH THROUGH THE DAY. FOR SUNDAY NIGHT INTO MONDAY...MODELS DROP ANOTHER TROUGH IN NORTHWEST FLOW ALOFT INTO THE AREA. DRY NORTHEAST SURFACE FLOW EXPECTED TO KEEP LOWER LAYER DRY...KEEPING PRECIPITATION CHANCES WEST AND SOUTH OF THE AREA. FROM MONDAY NIGHT INTO TUESDAY...MODELS SHOW A FAIRLY DEEP SURFACE LOW MOVING ACROSS ACROSS MANITOBA INTO ONTARIO. STRONG WAA/ISENTROPIC LIFT MONDAY NIGHT WILL SPREAD CLOUDS AND A CHANCE OF RAIN/SNOW MIX INTO THE AREA. THE COLD FRONT FROM THIS LOW IS THEN EXPECTED TO MAKE PASSAGE TUESDAY AFTERNOON...FOR A CHANCE OF RAIN. AS STATED ABOVE...TOOK A BLEND APPROACH FOR TUESDAY NIGHT THROUGH WEDNESDAY WHICH WOULD PRODUCE DRY CONDITION FOR US. OTHERWISE...APPEARS THE SLIGHTLY BELOW TEMPERATURE TREND WILL CONTINUE WITH HIGHS IN THE 40S//PERHAPS A FEW LOWER 50S ON TUESDAY// AND LOWS IN THE UPPER 20S TO MIDDLE 30S. && .AVIATION...THROUGH 18Z FRIDAY 1143 AM CDT THU NOV 1 2012 NORTHWESTERLY WINDS AND SOME LOW-LEVEL MOISTURE MAY BRIEFLY BOUNCE KRST INTO THE MVFR RANGE FOR CIGS THIS AFTERNOON...BUT COVERAGE SHOULD SLOWLY DECREASE TO SCATTERED CLOUDS BY 20-22Z. WINDS WILL BE GUSTY THROUGH SUNDOWN...IN THE 20KT RANGE. VFR CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED AFTER SUNDOWN. VERY MINOR CHANGES EXPECTED TO 18Z TAFS. && .ARX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... 341 AM CDT THU NOV 1 2012 WI...NONE. MN...NONE. IA...NONE. && $$ SHORT TERM...BAUMGARDT LONG TERM....DAS AVIATION...BAUMGARDT
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS LA CROSSE WI
634 AM CDT THU NOV 1 2012 .SHORT TERM...TODAY THROUGH SATURDAY 341AM CDT THU NOV 1 2012 FORECAST FOCUSED ON CLOUD TRENDS TODAY...THEN PRECIPITATION CHANCES THIS WEEKEND. WATER VAPOR LOOP/RAP 500MB ANALYSIS EARLY THIS MORNING SHOWING A CLOSED LOW OVER NEW YORK WITH A FAIRLY HIGH AMPLITUDE RIDGE OVER THE INTERMOUNTAIN WEST. A WEAK MID-LEVEL AND SURFACE TROUGH ON THE EASTERN PERIPHERY OF THIS RIDGE WAS MOVING SOUTHEAST ACROSS WI/MN. WEAK ISENTROPIC LIFT ASSOCIATED WITH THIS TROUGH WAS RESULTING IN BROKEN STRATOCUMULUS/ALTOCUMULUS ACROSS PORTIONS OF WESTERN WI/MN AND NORTHERN IA. MEANWHILE...11-3.9MICRON IMAGERY/SURFACE OBS SHOWING A WIDESPREAD STRATUS FIELD MOVING SOUTHEAST TOWARD THE REGION FROM THE DAKOTAS/NORTHERN MN. CLOUD COVER AND WEAK WESTERLY WIND WERE KEEPING TEMPERATURES MAINLY IN THE 30S AS OF 2 AM. 01.00Z MODELS SHOWING DECENT AGREEMENT ON OVERALL SYNOPTIC PATTERN...HOWEVER SHOWING SOME DIFFERENCES IN PRECIPITATION GENERATION ASSOCIATED WITH TROUGH SWINGING THROUGH THIS WEEKEND. MORE DETAIL ON THIS WILL BE PROVIDED BELOW IN THE FORECAST DISCUSSION. FOR TODAY...THE MID/SURFACE TROUGH WILL CONTINUE TO ROTATE THROUGH THE AREA...EXITING SOUTHEAST OF THE REGION BY MID-MORNING. UPON ITS EXIT...AFOREMENTIONED STRATUS FILED ACROSS THE DAKOTAS AN MN WILL SINK SOUTHEAST INTO THE AREA. MODELS SHOWING INCREASING SUBSIDENCE ALONG WITH MIXING IN THE LOWEST 925MB. NAM/NSSL-WRF GOES-R ERODE THESE CLOUDS AS THE DAY WEARS ON WHEREAS THE RAP KEEPS CLOUDS IN FOR MOST OF THE DAY. BELIEVE THE RAP MAY BE A BIT BULLISH ON CLOUD COVER. STRATUS...WHICH ORIGINATED OVER A MORE MOIST SOURCE REGION WILL BE ADVECTING INTO A DRIER ENVIRONMENT. AS SUCH...BELIEVE THE NAM/NSSL-WRF GOES-R SOLUTION IS MORE REASONABLE WITH DECREASING CLOUD TREND BY AFTERNOON. MEANWHILE...BUFKIT SOUNDINGS SHOWING DECENT WINDS IN THE 15 TO 25KT RANGE AROUND 925MB LEVEL...AND WITH AMPLE MIXING...SHOULD SEE THESE WINDS COMING DOWN FOR GUSTS TODAY. DECENT COLD PUSH ALSO NOTED IN THE 925-850MB LAYER WITH TEMPERATURES FALLING INTO THE -2 TO -4C RANGE THIS AFTERNOON. THIS IS EXPECTED TO RESULT WITH HIGHS TODAY IN THE LOWER 40S ACROSS THE NORTH...TO THE UPPER 40S ACROSS NORTHEAST IA INTO FAR SOUTHWEST WI. SKIES EXPECTED TO BE MOSTLY CLEAR THIS EVENING WITH HIGH PRESSURE BUILDING IN FROM MANITOBA/MN. WILL THEN SEE AN INCREASE IN CIRRUS WEST OF THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER AHEAD OF A MID-LEVEL TROUGH MOVING INTO THE DAKOTAS FROM MT. LIGHT NORTH WINDS AND MOSTLY CLEAR SKIES SHOULD ALLOW TEMPERATURES TO DROP INTO THE 20S WITH THE POSSIBILITY OF SOME TEENS IN THE CRANBERRY COUNTRY AREA OF CENTRAL WI. ATTENTION THEN TURNS TO INCOMING MID-LEVEL TROUGH FRIDAY NIGHT INTO SATURDAY. NOT A LOT OF FORCING BEING DEPICTED WITH THIS WAVE AS FAR AS ISENTROPIC LIFT/PV-ADVECTION. IN ADDITION...A VERY DRY NORTHEAST SURFACE FLOW WILL BE TAKING PLACE WITH OUTFLOW FROM HIGH CENTERED NEAR HUDSONS BAY. WITH THIS IN MIND...TRIMMED BACK PROBABILITY OF PRECIPITATION TO SLIGHT CHANCES AND ALSO MOVED THEM SOUTH OF THE I-94 CORRIDOR WHERE BETTER//ALBEIT WEAK//FORCING IS BEING DEPICTED. STILL LOOKS LIKE IF ANYTHING DID PRECIPITATE...IT WOULD BE A RAIN/SNOW MIX LATER FRIDAY NIGHT INTO EARLY SATURDAY MORNING...THEN MAINLY RAIN FROM LATER SATURDAY MORNING THROUGH THE AFTERNOON. .LONG TERM...SATURDAY NIGHT THROUGH WEDNESDAY 341 AM CDT THU NOV 1 2012 01.00Z GFS/ECMWF SHOWING FAIRLY GOOD AGREEMENT THROUGH TUESDAY...THEN DIVERGE A BIT TUESDAY NIGHT/WEDNESDAY WITH AMOUNT OF TROUGHING VERSUS RIDGING OVER THE AREA. WILL TREND TOWARD A BLEND APPROACH FOR NOW. MODELS SHOW TROUGH DROPPING SOUTH OF THE AREA SUNDAY WITH SUBSIDENCE BY AFTERNOON. THIS KEEPS POPS SOUTH OF THE AREA WITH DIMINISHING CLOUD TREND EXPECTED FROM NORTH TO SOUTH THROUGH THE DAY. FOR SUNDAY NIGHT INTO MONDAY...MODELS DROP ANOTHER TROUGH IN NORTHWEST FLOW ALOFT INTO THE AREA. DRY NORTHEAST SURFACE FLOW EXPECTED TO KEEP LOWER LAYER DRY...KEEPING PRECIPITATION CHANCES WEST AND SOUTH OF THE AREA. FROM MONDAY NIGHT INTO TUESDAY...MODELS SHOW A FAIRLY DEEP SURFACE LOW MOVING ACROSS ACROSS MANITOBA INTO ONTARIO. STRONG WAA/ISENTROPIC LIFT MONDAY NIGHT WILL SPREAD CLOUDS AND A CHANCE OF RAIN/SNOW MIX INTO THE AREA. THE COLD FRONT FROM THIS LOW IS THEN EXPECTED TO MAKE PASSAGE TUESDAY AFTERNOON...FOR A CHANCE OF RAIN. AS STATED ABOVE...TOOK A BLEND APPROACH FOR TUESDAY NIGHT THROUGH WEDNESDAY WHICH WOULD PRODUCE DRY CONDITION FOR US. OTHERWISE...APPEARS THE SLIGHTLY BELOW TEMPERATURE TREND WILL CONTINUE WITH HIGHS IN THE 40S//PERHAPS A FEW LOWER 50S ON TUESDAY// AND LOWS IN THE UPPER 20S TO MIDDLE 30S. && .AVIATION...TODAY AND TONIGHT 634 AM CDT THU NOV 1 2012 A COLD FRONT MOVED THROUGH BOTH TAF SITES AROUND 11Z. IN ITS WAKE...THERE IS A MASS OF STRATUS MARCHING SOUTH THROUGH MINNESOTA WITH CEILINGS RANGING FROM MVFR TO VFR...ALONG WITH SOME INDICATIONS OF SMALL HOLES IN SATELLITE IMAGERY. THE STRATUS APPEARS TO BE A CERTAINTY TO MOVE INTO BOTH TAF SITES BY 15Z. HOWEVER...THERE ARE TWO ISSUES WITH THIS STRATUS: 1. WILL MVFR CEILINGS REACH THE TAF SITES - ONE MODEL...THE 01.06Z HIRES WRF-NMM...WHICH IS HANDLING THE OVERALL CLOUD EXTENT THE BEST SAYS THEY STAY OFF TO THE WEST AND NORTH. MANY OTHER MODELS FOLLOW SIMILARLY TO THE HIRES WRF-NMM. MEANWHILE ANOTHER MODEL...THE 01.10Z RAP AND PREVIOUS RUNS OF IT...SAYS THE MVFR MOVES INTO BOTH TAF SITES. THE RAP GENERALLY APPEARS TO BE AN OUTLIER...BUT TO MAINTAIN CONTINUITY WITH THE PREVIOUS FORECAST TO SOME DEGREE HAVE RAISED CEILINGS ABOUT 500 FT. THIS STILL PUTS KRST AT MVFR FROM 14-17Z...THOUGH. KLSE IS NOW VFR. 2. WHEN DOES THE STRATUS CLEAR OUT - AGAIN THE MODELS VARY...FOLLOWING THE MVFR CONCERNS. HERE AS WELL HAVE FOLLOWED THE MAJORITY...WHICH MAKES SOME SENSE SEEING SOME SMALL HOLES IN SATELLITE IMAGERY AS WELL AS THAT THE GROUND IS DRY. USUALLY TO KEEP CLOUDS AROUND IN THE WAKE OF A COLD FRONT A WET GROUND IS REALLY HELPFUL. THUS...STILL THINKING CLOUDS WILL CLEAR LATE THIS AFTERNOON OR EARLY EVENING. MAINLY CLEAR SKIES LOOK TO DOMINATE TONIGHT. COLD AIR FLOWING INTO THE TAF SITES COMBINED WITH A TIGHTENING PRESSURE GRADIENT BEHIND THE FRONT SHOULD YIELD GUSTY WINDS AT BOTH SITES TODAY. SUSTAINED WINDS EXPECTED TO APPROACH 15 KT WITH GUSTS UP AROUND 20 KT. LOOK FOR WINDS TO DIMINISH THIS EVENING. && .ARX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... 341 AM CDT THU NOV 1 2012 WI...NONE. MN...NONE. IA...NONE. && $$ SHORT TERM...DAS LONG TERM....DAS AVIATION...AJ
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS LA CROSSE WI
341 AM CDT THU NOV 1 2012 .SHORT TERM...TODAY THROUGH SATURDAY 341AM CDT THU NOV 1 2012 FORECAST FOCUSED ON CLOUD TRENDS TODAY...THEN PRECIPITATION CHANCES THIS WEEKEND. WATER VAPOR LOOP/RAP 500MB ANALYSIS EARLY THIS MORNING SHOWING A CLOSED LOW OVER NEW YORK WITH A FAIRLY HIGH AMPLITUDE RIDGE OVER THE INTERMOUNTAIN WEST. A WEAK MID-LEVEL AND SURFACE TROUGH ON THE EASTERN PERIPHERY OF THIS RIDGE WAS MOVING SOUTHEAST ACROSS WI/MN. WEAK ISENTROPIC LIFT ASSOCIATED WITH THIS TROUGH WAS RESULTING IN BROKEN STRATOCUMULUS/ALTOCUMULUS ACROSS PORTIONS OF WESTERN WI/MN AND NORTHERN IA. MEANWHILE...11-3.9MICRON IMAGERY/SURFACE OBS SHOWING A WIDESPREAD STRATUS FIELD MOVING SOUTHEAST TOWARD THE REGION FROM THE DAKOTAS/NORTHERN MN. CLOUD COVER AND WEAK WESTERLY WIND WERE KEEPING TEMPERATURES MAINLY IN THE 30S AS OF 2 AM. 01.00Z MODELS SHOWING DECENT AGREEMENT ON OVERALL SYNOPTIC PATTERN...HOWEVER SHOWING SOME DIFFERENCES IN PRECIPITATION GENERATION ASSOCIATED WITH TROUGH SWINGING THROUGH THIS WEEKEND. MORE DETAIL ON THIS WILL BE PROVIDED BELOW IN THE FORECAST DISCUSSION. FOR TODAY...THE MID/SURFACE TROUGH WILL CONTINUE TO ROTATE THROUGH THE AREA...EXITING SOUTHEAST OF THE REGION BY MID-MORNING. UPON ITS EXIT...AFOREMENTIONED STRATUS FILED ACROSS THE DAKOTAS AN MN WILL SINK SOUTHEAST INTO THE AREA. MODELS SHOWING INCREASING SUBSIDENCE ALONG WITH MIXING IN THE LOWEST 925MB. NAM/NSSL-WRF GOES-R ERODE THESE CLOUDS AS THE DAY WEARS ON WHEREAS THE RAP KEEPS CLOUDS IN FOR MOST OF THE DAY. BELIEVE THE RAP MAY BE A BIT BULLISH ON CLOUD COVER. STRATUS...WHICH ORIGINATED OVER A MORE MOIST SOURCE REGION WILL BE ADVECTING INTO A DRIER ENVIRONMENT. AS SUCH...BELIEVE THE NAM/NSSL-WRF GOES-R SOLUTION IS MORE REASONABLE WITH DECREASING CLOUD TREND BY AFTERNOON. MEANWHILE...BUFKIT SOUNDINGS SHOWING DECENT WINDS IN THE 15 TO 25KT RANGE AROUND 925MB LEVEL...AND WITH AMPLE MIXING...SHOULD SEE THESE WINDS COMING DOWN FOR GUSTS TODAY. DECENT COLD PUSH ALSO NOTED IN THE 925-850MB LAYER WITH TEMPERATURES FALLING INTO THE -2 TO -4C RANGE THIS AFTERNOON. THIS IS EXPECTED TO RESULT WITH HIGHS TODAY IN THE LOWER 40S ACROSS THE NORTH...TO THE UPPER 40S ACROSS NORTHEAST IA INTO FAR SOUTHWEST WI. SKIES EXPECTED TO BE MOSTLY CLEAR THIS EVENING WITH HIGH PRESSURE BUILDING IN FROM MANITOBA/MN. WILL THEN SEE AN INCREASE IN CIRRUS WEST OF THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER AHEAD OF A MID-LEVEL TROUGH MOVING INTO THE DAKOTAS FROM MT. LIGHT NORTH WINDS AND MOSTLY CLEAR SKIES SHOULD ALLOW TEMPERATURES TO DROP INTO THE 20S WITH THE POSSIBILITY OF SOME TEENS IN THE CRANBERRY COUNTRY AREA OF CENTRAL WI. ATTENTION THEN TURNS TO INCOMING MID-LEVEL TROUGH FRIDAY NIGHT INTO SATURDAY. NOT A LOT OF FORCING BEING DEPICTED WITH THIS WAVE AS FAR AS ISENTROPIC LIFT/PV-ADVECTION. IN ADDITION...A VERY DRY NORTHEAST SURFACE FLOW WILL BE TAKING PLACE WITH OUTFLOW FROM HIGH CENTERED NEAR HUDSONS BAY. WITH THIS IN MIND...TRIMMED BACK PROBABILITY OF PRECIPITATION TO SLIGHT CHANCES AND ALSO MOVED THEM SOUTH OF THE I-94 CORRIDOR WHERE BETTER//ALBEIT WEAK//FORCING IS BEING DEPICTED. STILL LOOKS LIKE IF ANYTHING DID PRECIPITATE...IT WOULD BE A RAIN/SNOW MIX LATER FRIDAY NIGHT INTO EARLY SATURDAY MORNING...THEN MAINLY RAIN FROM LATER SATURDAY MORNING THROUGH THE AFTERNOON. .LONG TERM...SATURDAY NIGHT THROUGH WEDNESDAY 341 AM CDT THU NOV 1 2012 01.00Z GFS/ECMWF SHOWING FAIRLY GOOD AGREEMENT THROUGH TUESDAY...THEN DIVERGE A BIT TUESDAY NIGHT/WEDNESDAY WITH AMOUNT OF TROUGHING VERSUS RIDGING OVER THE AREA. WILL TREND TOWARD A BLEND APPROACH FOR NOW. MODELS SHOW TROUGH DROPPING SOUTH OF THE AREA SUNDAY WITH SUBSIDENCE BY AFTERNOON. THIS KEEPS POPS SOUTH OF THE AREA WITH DIMINISHING CLOUD TREND EXPECTED FROM NORTH TO SOUTH THROUGH THE DAY. FOR SUNDAY NIGHT INTO MONDAY...MODELS DROP ANOTHER TROUGH IN NORTHWEST FLOW ALOFT INTO THE AREA. DRY NORTHEAST SURFACE FLOW EXPECTED TO KEEP LOWER LAYER DRY...KEEPING PRECIPITATION CHANCES WEST AND SOUTH OF THE AREA. FROM MONDAY NIGHT INTO TUESDAY...MODELS SHOW A FAIRLY DEEP SURFACE LOW MOVING ACROSS ACROSS MANITOBA INTO ONTARIO. STRONG WAA/ISENTROPIC LIFT MONDAY NIGHT WILL SPREAD CLOUDS AND A CHANCE OF RAIN/SNOW MIX INTO THE AREA. THE COLD FRONT FROM THIS LOW IS THEN EXPECTED TO MAKE PASSAGE TUESDAY AFTERNOON...FOR A CHANCE OF RAIN. AS STATED ABOVE...TOOK A BLEND APPROACH FOR TUESDAY NIGHT THROUGH WEDNESDAY WHICH WOULD PRODUCE DRY CONDITION FOR US. OTHERWISE...APPEARS THE SLIGHTLY BELOW TEMPERATURE TREND WILL CONTINUE WITH HIGHS IN THE 40S//PERHAPS A FEW LOWER 50S ON TUESDAY// AND LOWS IN THE UPPER 20S TO MIDDLE 30S. && .AVIATION...THROUGH 06Z FRIDAY 1130 PM CDT WED OCT 31 2012 UPPER LEVEL SHORTWAVE TROUGH CONTINUED TO DROP SOUTHEAST ACROSS THE REGION LATE THIS EVENING...PER THE LATEST WATERVAPOR SATELLITE IMAGERY. A BAND OF MID LEVEL CLOUDS WERE LOCATED AHEAD OF THE SHORTWAVE...MOSTLY IN THE 8-10KFT RANGE. HOWEVER...JUST NORTH OF THE MID CLOUDS LIES A BROADER EXPANSE OF LOW CLOUDS...WITH SFC OBS MOSTLY SUB 2 KFT. LATEST RAP13 RH FIELDS SUGGEST THAT THIS LOW SATURATION/CLOUDS COULD WORK ACROSS KRST AND KLSE AFTER 12Z THU. THE NAM12 PUTS THE BREAKS ON THE SOUTHERN PUSH OF THE LOW SATURATION HOWEVER...KEEPING IT NORTH AND NORTHEAST AS MIXING AND DRY LOW LEVEL AIR HALT ITS SOUTHERN PROGRESS. THE 01.00Z GFS40 FAVORS THE RAP13. CONFIDENCE SHAKY ON WHETHER MVFR CIGS WILL MAKE IT DOWN TO KRST/KLSE. WILL TREND CIGS DOWNWARD FOR NOW. SATELLITE IMAGERY/OBS WILL BE MONITORED CLOSELY AND UPDATES MADE AS NEEDED. MODEL TRENDS DO FAVOR A SCATTERING OF THE CLOUDS BY LATE MORNING THU...ESPECIALLY WEST OF THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER. SOME CIGS COULD LINGER LONGER AT KLSE. THERE WAS SOME MIXING THIS AFTERNOON...BUT SAGGING PRESSURE GRADIENT PROBABLY HELPED IN KEEPING DOWN MUCH OF THE GUST POTENTIAL. BETTER GRADIENT BY THU AFTERNOON THOUGH...AND BUFKIT SOUNDINGS SUGGEST 20 KT GUSTS AT KRST. THIS LOOKS REASONABLE. && .ARX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... 341 AM CDT THU NOV 1 2012 WI...NONE. MN...NONE. IA...NONE. && $$ SHORT TERM...DAS LONG TERM....DAS AVIATION.....RIECK
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS CHICAGO/ROMEOVILLE IL
214 AM CDT SAT NOV 3 2012 .DISCUSSION... 329 PM CDT MAIN FORECAST CHALLENGES ARE WITH PERSISTENT LAKE EFFECT CLOUD COVER AS WELL AS POSSIBLE LIGHT RAIN SHOWERS. CURRENT SATELLITE IMAGERY CONTINUES TO SHOW LAKE EFFECT CLOUD COVER TO MOVE DOWN LAKE MICHIGAN THIS AFTERNOON AND SPILLING INTO NORTHWEST INDIANA...AS HIGH LEVEL CLOUD COVER CONTINUES TO WORK ITS WAY EAST ACROSS NORTHERN ILLINOIS. MEANWHILE...RADAR IMAGERY DEPICTING SOME LIGHT SHOWERS ALSO STILL DEVELOPING OVER THE SOUTHERN HALF OF THE LAKE AND MOVING INTO PORTER COUNTY IN NORTHWEST INDIANA. THESE LIGHT SHOWERS ARE DUE IN PART TO A LONG FETCH DOWN THE LAKE WITH SUFFICIENT DELTA TS AND CONVERGENCE NOTED ON OBS/LATEST RAP ANALYSIS. EXPECT THESE SHOWERS TO CONTINUE THIS AFTERNOON AND POSSIBLY INTO THIS EVENING WITH A SLIGHT SHIFT MORE WESTWARD INTO LAKE COUNTY IN NORTHWEST INDIANA AS BOUNDARY LAYER SHIFTS MORE NORTH/NORTHEAST. ALTHOUGH DURING THIS TIME...LATEST FORECAST SOUNDINGS OVER THE LAKE SHOWING SOME WARMING IN THE COLUMN AND A LOWERING OF EQUILIBRIUM HEIGHTS. THIS SHOULD HELP TO STIFLE THE DEVELOPMENT WHICH WE HAVE SEEN ALL DAY...WITH ONLY PRIMARILY LAKE EFFECT CLOUD COVER CONTINUING TO DEVELOP. ALTHOUGH...THERE IS SOME HIGH RES GUIDANCE THAT DOES INDICATE SOME PERSISTENT LIGHT QPF ACROSS THE LAKE AND NEAR THE SHORES TONIGHT AND INTO SATURDAY MORNING...BUT AM NOT COMPLETELY SOLD ON THIS IDEA AS OF YET DUE TO THE PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED WARMING TRENDS. SO HAVE SLIGHT CHANCE POPS GOING INTO THIS EVENING BUT THEN DECREASE OVERNIGHT INTO SATURDAY. IF THERE WERE TO BE ANY SHOWERS TO DEVELOP IT WOULD BE IN THE FORM OF SPRINKLES...FORMING ON THE FRINGE OF BUILDING HIGH PRESSURE. CURRENT WAA ACROSS THE PLAINS WILL SLOWLY SHIFT EAST INTO CENTRAL ILLINOIS TONIGHT OUT AHEAD OF A MID LEVEL TROUGH/SURFACE LOW TO THE WEST. THIS SHOULD HELP CLOUD COVER TO CONTINUE TO SPREAD EAST ACROSS THE ENTIRE CWA TONIGHT...WITH PARTLY CLOUDY SKIES BECOMING MORE CLOUDY. IT DOES APPEAR THE EXTENT OF THE WAA IS WEAKER TONIGHT AND MORE DEFINED FURTHER SOUTH...WITH ANY PRECIP THAT DEVELOPS TONIGHT IN RESPONSE TO THIS FORCING TO STAY SOUTH OF THE CWA. THIS TROUGH/SURFACE REFLECTION WILL CONTINUE EAST ON SATURDAY WITH SOME OF THIS MOISTURE TRYING TO INCH ITS WAY FURTHER NORTH...WITH A SLIGHT CHANCE FOR SHOWERS ON SATURDAY MAINLY ACROSS THE FAR SOUTHERN TIER OF THE CWA. AS HIGHER PRESSURE BUILDS OVERHEAD THROUGH THE REMAINDER OF THE WEEKEND...EXPECT DRY CONDITIONS WITH SIMILAR TEMPS IN THE 40S FOR SATURDAY AND SUNDAY. ALTHOUGH WITH SEVERAL MID LEVEL FEATURES TRAVERSING THE REGION...SOME MID LEVEL MOISTURE SHOULD MOVE OVERHEAD AND BRING SOME CLOUDY CONDITIONS ACROSS THE CWA THIS WEEKEND. RODRIGUEZ && .AVIATION... //ORD AND MDW CONCERNS...UPDATED 06Z... * LAKE EFFECT MVFR CIGS INTO THIS AFTERNOON AND POSSIBLY PERSISTING AT TIMES INTO TONIGHT. * SMALL CHANCE FOR A LIGHT SHOWER THIS MORNING. //DISCUSSION...UPDATED 06Z... HIGH PRESSURE RIDGE IS EXTENDING FROM WESTERN ONTARIO THROUGH NORTHERN IL EARLY THIS MORNING. NORTHEAST FLOW AHEAD OF THIS WILL CONTINUE TO FUNNEL LAKE EFFECT CLOUDS INTO CHICAGOLAND TAF SITES AND LIKELY RFD BY LATER THIS MORNING. THE CLOUDS SHOULD STAY AT CONSTANT HEIGHTS BETWEEN 2200 AND 3500 FT THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE MORNING LOOKING AT OBSERVATIONS/AMDAR SOUNDINGS AND FORECAST PROJECTIONS. AN UPPER LEVEL DISTURBANCE SLIDING TO THE SOUTHEAST JUST WEST AND SOUTH OF THE AREA WILL PROMOTE A BLANKET OF MID-LEVEL CLOUDS. GRADUAL ASCENT WITHIN THIS AREA HAS ALREADY PRODUCED SOME LIGHT ECHOES. WITH THIS PASSING OVER THE LOWER LAKE EFFECT CLOUDS...IT IS POSSIBLE FOR SOME SEEDER-FEEDER TYPE PROCESSES TO PRODUCE A LIGHT SHOWER OR SOME SPRINKLES. OUTSIDE OF THAT SMALL CHANCE...THE TAF PERIOD WILL BE DRY WITH NORTHEAST WINDS PERSISTING INTO TONIGHT. LAKE EFFECT CLOUDS LOOK TO POSSIBLY RE-EXPAND TONIGHT...BUT BE MORE FOCUSED TOWARD NORTHWEST IN DUE TO MORE OF A NORTHERLY BOUNDARY LAYER COMPONENT. //ORD AND MDW CONFIDENCE...UPDATED 06Z... * HIGH CONFIDENCE IN SKY TRENDS THROUGH THIS MORNING...WITH MEDIUM CONFIDENCE IN SCATTERING TIME. MEDIUM CONFIDENCE IN BROKEN CIGS REMAINING EAST OF THE TERMINALS TONIGHT. * HIGH CONFIDENCE IN CIGS REMAINING ABOVE 1700 FT. * HIGH CONFIDENCE THAT ANY LIGHT SHOWERS THIS MORNING WILL KEEP VISIBILITY VFR. //OUTLOOK FOR ORD/MDW FOR 12Z SUNDAY-12Z THURSDAY...UPDATED 00Z... SUNDAY...AM MVFR CIGS POSSIBLE...OTHERWISE VFR. MONDAY...VFR. TUESDAY...SLIGHT CHANCE OF -SHRA. MVFR POSSIBLE. WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAY...VFR. MTF/IZZI && .MARINE... 212 AM CDT NORTHERLY WINDS CONTINUE OVER THE LAKE...NOW GOING ON ALMOST A WEEK STRAIGHT FROM THAT DIRECTION. THE RIDGE AXIS FROM WESTERN QUEBEC TO NORTHERN IL WILL PUSH OVER THE LAKE BY LATER SUNDAY AND PERSIST INTO THE DAY MONDAY...BRINGING LIGHT WINDS. BEFORE THAT TIME...THE NORTHERLY WINDS AND WAVES WILL SLOWLY DIMINISH TODAY. WAVES OF 4 TO 5 FT WILL REMAIN POSSIBLE IN THE NEARSHORE AREAS OF IL AND IN EVEN AFTER THE SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY EXPIRATION...BUT THAT SHOULD BE ON THE UPPER END OF WAVE HEIGHTS...SO NO EXTENSION IN THE HEADLINE PLANNED AT THIS TIME. AFTER THE RIDGE AXIS PASSES...SOUTHERLY WINDS WILL RETURN OVER THE LAKE AND INCREASE ON TUESDAY AS A LOW PROGRESSES EAST ACROSS THE CANADIAN PRAIRIE PROVINCES. A COLD FRONT EXTENDING SOUTH FROM THIS WILL MOVE EAST OVER THE LAKE SOMETIME TUESDAY NIGHT OR WEDNESDAY. THIS IS NOT EXPECTED TO BE TOO POWERFUL OF A FRONT AS A STRONG LOW OFF THE EAST COAST SHOULD CAUSE THIS NORTHERN STREAM SYSTEM TO SLOW AND LIKELY WEAKEN. MTF && .LOT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... IL...NONE. IN...NONE. LM...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY...NEARSHORE WATERS UNTIL 11 AM SATURDAY. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS CHICAGO/ROMEOVILLE IL
1243 AM CDT SAT NOV 3 2012 .DISCUSSION... 329 PM CDT MAIN FORECAST CHALLENGES ARE WITH PERSISTENT LAKE EFFECT CLOUD COVER AS WELL AS POSSIBLE LIGHT RAIN SHOWERS. CURRENT SATELLITE IMAGERY CONTINUES TO SHOW LAKE EFFECT CLOUD COVER TO MOVE DOWN LAKE MICHIGAN THIS AFTERNOON AND SPILLING INTO NORTHWEST INDIANA...AS HIGH LEVEL CLOUD COVER CONTINUES TO WORK ITS WAY EAST ACROSS NORTHERN ILLINOIS. MEANWHILE...RADAR IMAGERY DEPICTING SOME LIGHT SHOWERS ALSO STILL DEVELOPING OVER THE SOUTHERN HALF OF THE LAKE AND MOVING INTO PORTER COUNTY IN NORTHWEST INDIANA. THESE LIGHT SHOWERS ARE DUE IN PART TO A LONG FETCH DOWN THE LAKE WITH SUFFICIENT DELTA TS AND CONVERGENCE NOTED ON OBS/LATEST RAP ANALYSIS. EXPECT THESE SHOWERS TO CONTINUE THIS AFTERNOON AND POSSIBLY INTO THIS EVENING WITH A SLIGHT SHIFT MORE WESTWARD INTO LAKE COUNTY IN NORTHWEST INDIANA AS BOUNDARY LAYER SHIFTS MORE NORTH/NORTHEAST. ALTHOUGH DURING THIS TIME...LATEST FORECAST SOUNDINGS OVER THE LAKE SHOWING SOME WARMING IN THE COLUMN AND A LOWERING OF EQUILIBRIUM HEIGHTS. THIS SHOULD HELP TO STIFLE THE DEVELOPMENT WHICH WE HAVE SEEN ALL DAY...WITH ONLY PRIMARILY LAKE EFFECT CLOUD COVER CONTINUING TO DEVELOP. ALTHOUGH...THERE IS SOME HIGH RES GUIDANCE THAT DOES INDICATE SOME PERSISTENT LIGHT QPF ACROSS THE LAKE AND NEAR THE SHORES TONIGHT AND INTO SATURDAY MORNING...BUT AM NOT COMPLETELY SOLD ON THIS IDEA AS OF YET DUE TO THE PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED WARMING TRENDS. SO HAVE SLIGHT CHANCE POPS GOING INTO THIS EVENING BUT THEN DECREASE OVERNIGHT INTO SATURDAY. IF THERE WERE TO BE ANY SHOWERS TO DEVELOP IT WOULD BE IN THE FORM OF SPRINKLES...FORMING ON THE FRINGE OF BUILDING HIGH PRESSURE. CURRENT WAA ACROSS THE PLAINS WILL SLOWLY SHIFT EAST INTO CENTRAL ILLINOIS TONIGHT OUT AHEAD OF A MID LEVEL TROUGH/SURFACE LOW TO THE WEST. THIS SHOULD HELP CLOUD COVER TO CONTINUE TO SPREAD EAST ACROSS THE ENTIRE CWA TONIGHT...WITH PARTLY CLOUDY SKIES BECOMING MORE CLOUDY. IT DOES APPEAR THE EXTENT OF THE WAA IS WEAKER TONIGHT AND MORE DEFINED FURTHER SOUTH...WITH ANY PRECIP THAT DEVELOPS TONIGHT IN RESPONSE TO THIS FORCING TO STAY SOUTH OF THE CWA. THIS TROUGH/SURFACE REFLECTION WILL CONTINUE EAST ON SATURDAY WITH SOME OF THIS MOISTURE TRYING TO INCH ITS WAY FURTHER NORTH...WITH A SLIGHT CHANCE FOR SHOWERS ON SATURDAY MAINLY ACROSS THE FAR SOUTHERN TIER OF THE CWA. AS HIGHER PRESSURE BUILDS OVERHEAD THROUGH THE REMAINDER OF THE WEEKEND...EXPECT DRY CONDITIONS WITH SIMILAR TEMPS IN THE 40S FOR SATURDAY AND SUNDAY. ALTHOUGH WITH SEVERAL MID LEVEL FEATURES TRAVERSING THE REGION...SOME MID LEVEL MOISTURE SHOULD MOVE OVERHEAD AND BRING SOME CLOUDY CONDITIONS ACROSS THE CWA THIS WEEKEND. RODRIGUEZ && .AVIATION... //ORD AND MDW CONCERNS...UPDATED 06Z... * LAKE EFFECT MVFR CIGS INTO THIS AFTERNOON AND POSSIBLY PERSISTING AT TIMES INTO TONIGHT. * SMALL CHANCE FOR A LIGHT SHOWER THIS MORNING. //DISCUSSION...UPDATED 06Z... HIGH PRESSURE RIDGE IS EXTENDING FROM WESTERN ONTARIO THROUGH NORTHERN IL EARLY THIS MORNING. NORTHEAST FLOW AHEAD OF THIS WILL CONTINUE TO FUNNEL LAKE EFFECT CLOUDS INTO CHICAGOLAND TAF SITES AND LIKELY RFD BY LATER THIS MORNING. THE CLOUDS SHOULD STAY AT CONSTANT HEIGHTS BETWEEN 2200 AND 3500 FT THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE MORNING LOOKING AT OBSERVATIONS/AMDAR SOUNDINGS AND FORECAST PROJECTIONS. AN UPPER LEVEL DISTURBANCE SLIDING TO THE SOUTHEAST JUST WEST AND SOUTH OF THE AREA WILL PROMOTE A BLANKET OF MID-LEVEL CLOUDS. GRADUAL ASCENT WITHIN THIS AREA HAS ALREADY PRODUCED SOME LIGHT ECHOES. WITH THIS PASSING OVER THE LOWER LAKE EFFECT CLOUDS...IT IS POSSIBLE FOR SOME SEEDER-FEEDER TYPE PROCESSES TO PRODUCE A LIGHT SHOWER OR SOME SPRINKLES. OUTSIDE OF THAT SMALL CHANCE...THE TAF PERIOD WILL BE DRY WITH NORTHEAST WINDS PERSISTING INTO TONIGHT. LAKE EFFECT CLOUDS LOOK TO POSSIBLY RE-EXPAND TONIGHT...BUT BE MORE FOCUSED TOWARD NORTHWEST IN DUE TO MORE OF A NORTHERLY BOUNDARY LAYER COMPONENT. //ORD AND MDW CONFIDENCE...UPDATED 06Z... * HIGH CONFIDENCE IN SKY TRENDS THROUGH THIS MORNING...WITH MEDIUM CONFIDENCE IN SCATTERING TIME. MEDIUM CONFIDENCE IN BROKEN CIGS REMAINING EAST OF THE TERMINALS TONIGHT. * HIGH CONFIDENCE IN CIGS REMAINING ABOVE 1700 FT. * HIGH CONFIDENCE THAT ANY LIGHT SHOWERS THIS MORNING WILL KEEP VISIBILITY VFR. //OUTLOOK FOR ORD/MDW FOR 12Z SUNDAY-12Z THURSDAY...UPDATED 00Z... SUNDAY...AM MVFR CIGS POSSIBLE...OTHERWISE VFR. MONDAY...VFR. TUESDAY...SLIGHT CHANCE OF -SHRA. MVFR POSSIBLE. WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAY...VFR. MTF/IZZI && .MARINE... 217 PM CDT BROAD AREA OF LOW PRESSURE CENTERED ACROSS NORTHEAST QUEBEC WILL CONTINUE TO WEAKEN THE INFLUENCE ACROSS THE WESTERN GREAT LAKES THROUGH TONIGHT INTO SATURDAY...MEANWHILE A RIDGE OF HIGH PRESSURE REMAINS CENTERED ACROSS WESTERN ONTARIO STRETCHING SOUTH THROUGH THE UPPER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY. THIS RIDGE WILL REMAIN NEARLY STATIONARY...WHICH WILL ALLOW A PROLONGED PERIOD OF NORTH FLOW ACROSS LAKE MICHIGAN. GUIDANCE HAS INDICATED THAT A DECENT GRADIENT WILL REMAIN ACROSS LAKE MICHIGAN THROUGH TONIGHT...AND POSSIBLY CONTINUE THROUGH SATURDAY. THIS WILL MOST LIKELY KEEP WINDS UP IN THE 20 TO 25 KT CATEGORY. THE COMBINATION OF CONTINUED COLD AIR...NORTH WINDS AND RELATIVELY WARM LAKE MICHIGAN WATERS WILL RESULT IN WAVES REMAINING ELEVATED. BASED ON THIS SETUP HAVE OPTED TO CONTINUE THE SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY THROUGH TONIGHT AND INTO AT LEAST MID MORNING SATURDAY. BY LATE SATURDAY MORNING WAVES IN THE NEARSHORE SHOULD SUBSIDE ENOUGH TO ALLOW THE ADVISORY TO COME DOWN. GUIDANCE WAS ALSO INDICATING THAT WINDS MAY BEGIN TO TURN NORTHEAST THROUGH A PERIOD OF TIME SATURDAY AFTERNOON/EVENING...AND DIMINISH TO SPEEDS AROUND 10 TO 20 KT. A WEAK AREA OF LOW PRESSURE IS NOW EXPECTED TO PASS WELL SOUTH OF SOUTHERN LAKE MICHIGAN...HOWEVER WINDS ACROSS THE SOUTHERN TIP OF THE LAKE MAY TURN MORE EASTERLY. IF THIS SCENARIO DEVELOPS THE WAVES MAY REMAIN CHOPPY OR CLOSE TO SMALL CRAFT CONDITIONS THROUGH SATURDAY AFTERNOON FOR THE CHICAGO HARBOR AREA. HIGH PRESSURE BY THE END OF THE WEEKEND WILL DRIFT EAST AND ALLOW WINDS TO CONTINUE TO DIMINISH AND TURN EAST THEN SOUTH BY EARLY NEXT WEEK. A LOW PRESSURE IS EXPECTED TO SLIDE ACROSS WESTERN ONTARIO WITH AN INCREASING GRADIENT AND GUSTY WINDS BY TUESDAY. THIS WILL ALLOW WAVES TO STEADILY BUILD AGAIN LATE MONDAY THROUGH TUESDAY. BEACHLER && .LOT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... IL...NONE. IN...NONE. LM...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY...NEARSHORE WATERS UNTIL 11 AM SATURDAY. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS QUAD CITIES IA IL
319 AM CDT SAT NOV 3 2012 .SYNOPSIS... 06Z SFC ANALYSIS HAS A WEAK LOW NEAR KJLN AND ANOTHER NEAR KSPS. DISCONTINUOUS FRONTS CONNECTED THE LOWS. WEAK INVERTED TROFS EXTENDED FROM THE KJLN LOW INTO NORTHEAST MISSOURI AND INTO WESTERN IOWA. DEW POINTS WERE IN THE 40S AND 50S FROM THE SOUTHERN PLAINS INTO THE LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY WITH 20S AND 30S OVER MUCH OF THE MIDWEST. RADAR SHOWED CONVECTION JUST SOUTH OF THE CWFA WITH SPRINKLES INTO THE FAR SOUTHERN PARTS OF THE CWFA. && .SHORT TERM...TODAY AND TONIGHT... BASED ON CURRENT RADAR AND RAP TRENDS...THE SPRINKLES ACROSS THE FAR SOUTHERN CWFA SHOULD EXIT THE AREA BY SUNRISE AS THE LLJ AND THETA E GRADIENT SHIFT EAST OF THE CWFA. IT APPEARS THAT A LONE SHRA RAN ALONG THE SOUTHERN CWFA BORDER WITH HANCOCK AND MCDONOUGH COUNTIES. ALTHOUGH IT WILL TAKE TIME...THE MID LEVEL CLOUDS SHOULD SLOWLY EXIT THE CWFA DURING THE MORNING HOURS ALLOWING FILTERED SUN TO BE SEEN DURING THE DAY. MAX TEMPERATURES SHOULD BE SIMILAR TO OR JUST A BIT WARMER THAN YESTERDAY GIVEN THE WARMER START. QUIET AND DRY CONDITIONS WILL BE SEEN THIS EVENING AS AN UPPER LEVEL DISTURBANCE DROPS SOUTHEAST TOWARD THE AREA. AFTER MIDNIGHT THIS DISTURBANCE MOVES THROUGH THE CWFA WITH 850-700MB CONDENSATION PRESSURE DEFICITS LOWERING BUT THE 1000-850MB CONDENSATION PRESSURE DEFICITS REMAIN HIGH. THERE SHOULD AGAIN BE A MID LEVEL CLOUD DECK MOVING INTO THE AREA. THE THETA E GRADIENT ASSOCIATED WITH THE DISTURBANCE IS WEAK AND VERY DIFFUSE AND THE OVERALL FORCING IS EITHER NOT THERE OR VERY WEAK. SPRINKLES LOOK QUESTIONABLE SO HAVE OPTED TO GO DRY AFTER MIDNIGHT. 08 .LONG TERM...SUNDAY THROUGH NEXT FRIDAY... BELOW NORMAL TEMPS THROUGH MID-WEEK WITH NORTHWEST FLOW ALOFT BEFORE WARMING TREND LATE WEEK WITH ABOVE NORMAL TEMPS BY NEXT WEEKEND IN TRANSITION TO SOUTHWESTERLY FLOW PATTERN. COUPLE OF BOUTS OF MAINLY LIGHT RAIN DURING THE PERIOD. THE FIRST IS EXPECTED TO BRUSH S/W CWA LATE SUN NGT THROUGH MON... AS CLIPPER SYSTEM IS SHUTTLED DOWN IN NORTHWEST FLOW ALONG LOW-MID LEVEL BAROCLINIC ZONE. WBZ HEIGHTS 3500-4500 FT AGL SUPPORTS ALL LIQUID PTYPE AT SFC DESPITE WHAT MODEL SNOW ACCUMULATION ALGORITHMS DEPICT. THE SECOND BOUT OF LIGHT RAIN EXPECTED TUE WITH NEXT CLIPPER SYSTEM AND ATTENDANT WARM ADVECTION WING. AMOUNTS WITH BOTH SYSTEMS TO BE VERY LIGHT AND MOSTLY TRACE TO AROUND 0.1 INCH. MAINLY DRY MID TO LATE WEEK WITH MODERATING TEMPS AS RIDGING BUILDS ALOFT. PATTERN LOOKS FAVORABLE FOR MODERATE TO LOCALLY HEAVY RAIN EVENT SOMETIME NEXT WEEKEND OR POSSIBLY JUST BEYOND... WITH FAVORABLE HIGH OVER THE MID ATLANTIC AND RESULTANT SOUTHERLY FLOW ON BACKSIDE PUMPING GULF MOISTURE NORTHWARD WELL IN ADVANCE OF EJECTING SOUTHWEST CONUS TROUGH. TEMPS ABOVE TO POSSIBLY MUCH ABOVE NORMAL FRI THROUGH NEXT WEEKEND. 05 && .AVIATION... VFR WX IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE THROUGH 12Z/04. SPRINKLES MAY BE SEEN AT KBRL PRIOR TO SUNRISE SATURDAY AS LOW PRESSURE MOVES ACROSS SOUTHERN MISSOURI. 08 && .DVN WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... IA...NONE. IL...NONE. MO...NONE. && $$ 08/05
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION...UPDATED
NWS NORTH PLATTE NE
105 AM CDT SAT NOV 3 2012 .AVIATION... VFR CONDITIONS FOR KLBF WILL PERSIST THROUGH ENTIRE 06Z TAF PERIOD. ONLY CONCERN FOR KVTN IS THE POSSIBILITY FOR IFR CEILINGS AFTER 10Z. UPSTREAM STRATUS IN SOUTH DAKOTA CONTINUES TO WORK SOUTHEAST TO NEAR PHP. THE LATEST RAP MODEL AND TO A LESSER EXTENT THE NAM12 INDICATE POTENTIAL. HAVE INTRODUCED A SCT009 CLOUD HEIGHT FROM 10Z-18Z. THIS WILL NEED TO BE MONITORED CLOSELY THE NEXT SEVERAL HOURS. OTHERWISE EXPECT FEW TO SCATTERED HIGH CLOUDS OVERNIGHT THROUGH SATURDAY MORNING WITH LIGHT AND VARIABLE WINDS. AFTER 18Z...FEW TO SCT080 WITH SCT TO BKN250. WINDS TO REMAIN LIGHT AT OR BELOW 6KT. HAVE ADDED SOME MIST FOG AND SOME BR TO TAFS WITH DEVELOPING SCENARIO OVER WESTERN NEBRASKA. && .PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 608 PM CDT FRI NOV 2 2012/ AVIATION... VFR CONDITIONS FOR KLBF AND KVTN WILL PERSIST THROUGH ENTIRE 00Z TAF PERIOD. EXPECT FEW TO SCATTERED HIGH CLOUDS OVERNIGHT THROUGH SATURDAY MORNING WITH LIGHT AND VARIABLE WINDS. AFTER 18Z...FEW TO SCT080 WITH SCT TO BKN250. WINDS TO REMAIN LIGHT AT OR BELOW 6KT. PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 302 PM CDT FRI NOV 2 2012/ SHORT TERM...THROUGH 12Z SUNDAY. HIGH PRESSURE WILL BUILD INTO WESTERN AND NORTH CENTRAL NEBRASKA TONIGHT...WITH WINDS DIMINISHING. SKIES WILL EVENTUALLY BECOME AT LEAST PARTLY CLOUDY ACROSS NORTH CENTRAL NEBRASKA...WITH MOSTLY CLEAR TO PARTLY CLOUDY SKIES ACROSS WESTERN AND SOUTHWEST NEBRASKA. WITH THE LIGHT WEST WINDS AND AT LEAST PARTIALLY CLEAR SKIES...HAVE WENT FAIRLY COLD /UPPER 20S/ IN THE TYPICAL COLD SPOTS LIKE THE PLATTE RIVER VALLEY. SATURDAY IS SHAPING UP TO BE A NICE DAY...WITH LIGHT WINDS AND HIGHS IN THE MID 50S TO LOWER 60S. THERE WILL BE SOME HIGH CIRRUS CLOUDS AROUND...ESPECIALLY DURING THE AFTERNOON. LONG TERM...12Z SUNDAY AND BEYOND. UPPER WAVE WILL QUICKLY DROP SOUTHEAST THROUGH THE NORTHERN AND CENTRAL HIGH PLAINS ON SUNDAY BRINGING THE BEST SHOT OF PRECIPITATION...ALBEIT LIGHT...FOR THE NEXT SEVEN DAYS. THE HIGHEST PROBABILITY OF PRECIPITATION APPEARS TO BE TIED TO EASTERN PORTIONS OF SOUTH DAKOTA AND NEBRASKA...IN AN AREA OF FAVORED LIFT SEEN FROM MODEL GENERATED Q-VECTOR FIELDS. WHILE THE STRONGEST LIFT WILL BE EAST AND NORTH OF THE CWA...THE GFS AND EC DO GENERATE SOME LIGHT QPF AS INCREASING JET ENERGY ALOFT PASSES THROUGH THE STATE. THE GFS CONTINUES TO WAFFLE ON THE PLACEMENT OF THE UPPER FEATURES...BUT WITH THE 12Z RUN HAS COME INTO BETTER AGREEMENT WITH THE EC MODELING CAMP WHICH FAVORS A SLIGHTLY STRONGER AND MORE PROGRESSIVE SYSTEM. THIS PATTERN PLACES THE FAVORED LFQ OF THE UPPER JET ACROSS NORTH CENTRAL NEBRASKA. NOW THE NAM IS SOMEWHAT BROAD AND LESS AGGRESSIVE WITH THE MODEL GENERATED QPF. REGARDLESS...MOISTURE PROFILES ARE NOT ALL THAT SUPPORTIVE OF MEASURABLE QPF...SAVE FOR OUR FAR NORTH CENTRAL ZONES. SO WILL MAKE NO WHOLESALE CHANGES TO THE INHERITED POPS SUNDAY AFTERNOON AND EVENING...LEAVING ONLY SLIGHT CHANCE MENTION OVER OUR FAR NORTH CENTRAL ZONES...WHERE PREVIOUSLY INTRODUCED. OTHERWISE...WINDS MAY BECOME BRISK ACROSS THE HIGHER TERRAIN OF THE EASTERN PANHANDLE AND POSSIBLY LOCATIONS ALONG AND SOUTH OF INTERSTATE 80 SUNDAY AFTERNOON. NOT LOOKING AT ANY WIND HEADLINES...BUT INCREASING MOMENTUM ALOFT IS SHOWN TO BE TRANSFERRED DOWN TO THE SURFACE /PER BUFR POINT SOUNDINGS/ AS MIXING COMMENCES ABOVE 750MB...A FEW GUSTS ABOVE 25 MPH MAY BE POSSIBLE. CONFIDENCE IN THE AMOUNT OF EVENTUAL MIXING IS FAIRLY LOW...SO WILL ONLY TREND WINDS SLIGHTLY UPWARD AT THIS POINT IN TIME. HEIGHTS RISE EARLY NEXT WEEK AS THE UPPER WAVE DEEPENS WITHIN A LARGE TROUGH OVER THE SOUTHEASTERN STATES. TEMPERATURES ALOFT WARM IN ADVANCE OF WEAK WAVES/FRONTAL CONVERGENT PERIODS...ALLOWING FOR SEVERAL PLEASANT DAYS MIDWEEK. HIGHS SHOULD REMAIN IN THE 60S...WITH UPPER 50S POSSIBLE ACROSS NORTH CENTRAL NEBRASKA...AND POSSIBLY A 70 DEGREE READING OR TWO ACROSS THE SOUTHWEST WEDNESDAY. THEREAFTER...PRETTY STRONG AGREEMENT THAT A DEEP TROUGH WILL DIG INTO THE WESTERN UNITED STATES...WITH THE UPPER PATTERN OVER THE CENTRAL/NORTHERN PLAINS TRANSITIONING FROM NORTHERLY TO SOUTHWESTERLY. THE EXPECTED UPPER PATTERN AS GIVEN BY THE 02.12Z MODEL RUN IS NOT ALL THAT PROMISING FOR PRECIPITATION FOR WESTERN AND NORTH CENTRAL NEBRASKA...SO UNFORTUNATELY WILL LEAVE THE FORECAST DRY. && .LBF WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...NONE. && $$ SHORT TERM/EXTENDED...JACOBS AVIATION...POWER
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS HASTINGS NE
1223 AM CDT SAT NOV 3 2012 .AVIATION...06Z TAF. THE NARROW BAND OF STRATUS THAT HAS BEEN JUST TO THE WEST OF THE KGRI TERMINAL AREA IS STARTING TO DISSIPATE ON THE SOUTHERN END OF THE AREA. WILL KEEP THE KGRI TERMINAL WITH HIGH CLOUDS BUT WILL HAVE TO WAIT TO SEE IF THE STRATUS REDEVELOPS AND MOVES INTO THE TERMINAL. OTHERWISE VFR CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED WITH FAIRLY LIGHT WINDS. && .PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 250 PM CDT FRI NOV 2 2012/ SHORT TERM...THROUGH 00Z SUNDAY. MORNING UPPER AIR ANALYSIS INDICATES LONG WAVE TROUGHING OVER THE EASTERN ONE-THIRD OF THE CONUS...AND A RIDGE AXIS EXTENDING FROM NEW MEXICO INTO THE NORTHERN PLAINS. TWO MID LEVEL SHORTWAVES...ONE OVER THE NORTHERN PLAINS AND THE OTHER OVER THE SOUTHWESTERN CONUS...ARE ALSO NOTED...WITH ZONAL MID AND UPPER LEVEL FLOW PERSISTING ACROSS THE CENTRAL PLAINS. MID AND UPPER LEVEL JET ENERGY EXTENDS FROM WYOMING...EAST/NORTHEAST ACROSS THE NORTHERN PLAINS AND THEN SOUTHEAST ACROSS THE MISSISSIPPI VALLEY ON INTO THE MID-ATLANTIC. TROPOSPHERIC FLOW REMAINS FAIRLY WEAK OVER OUR AREA AS A RESULT...MAXING OUT AT AROUND 70KTS NEAR 200MB PER 12Z SOUNDING DATA FROM KLBF. WATER VAPOR IMAGERY INDICATES INCREASED VALUES OF MID LEVEL MOISTURE AHEAD OF THE MID LEVEL SHORT WAVE OVER THE SOUTHWESTERN CONUS...WITH THIS INCREASED MID LEVEL MOISTURE EXTENDING FROM THE FOUR-CORNERS REGION...EAST/NORTHEAST ACROSS THE CENTRAL ROCKY MOUNTAIN RANGE AND ON INTO THE CENTRAL PLAINS. PLENTY OF MID AND HIGH LEVEL CLOUDS ARE NOTED INFILTRATING THE CENTRAL PLAINS AS A RESULT. AT THE SURFACE A WEAK AREA OF LOW PRESSURE EXISTS OVER SOUTH CENTRAL KANSAS...WITH A WEAK FRONTAL BOUNDARY EXTENDING EAST/NORTHEAST FROM THE LOW ACROSS PORTIONS OF CENTRAL AND EASTERN KANSAS. AN INVERTED TROUGH IS ALSO NOTED EXTENDING NORTH FROM THE SURFACE LOW INTO NORTH CENTRAL KANSAS AND SOUTH CENTRAL NEBRASKA. THE LOW LEVEL WIND FIELD ACROSS OUR CWA REMAINS SPLIT AS A RESULT...WITH AN EAST/SOUTHEAST WIND ACROSS THE SOUTHEASTERN HALF OF THE CWA...AND A NORTH/NORTHWEST WIND FARTHER NORTHWEST. LOW LEVEL THERMAL ADVECTION ACROSS THE LOW LEVEL BAROCLINIC ZONE...CURRENTLY OVER PORTIONS OF CENTRAL AND EASTERN KANSAS...IS PROMOTING ISENTROPIC UPGLIDE AND SATURATION ALONG THE 290-300K SURFACES...PER RAP ANALYSIS DATA. THIS SATURATION HAS RESULTED IN STRATUS ACROSS NORTHWESTERN PORTIONS OF THE CWA THIS AFTERNOON...WHERE CEILINGS IN THE 1000-2000FT AGL PERSIST. GUIDANCE FROM THE NAM...OPERATIONAL GFS AND EC ALL SUGGEST THE MID LEVEL SHORT WAVE OVER THE NORTHERN PLAINS WILL CONTINUE MOVING EAST/SOUTHEAST THROUGH THE NEXT 24 HOURS. ANY DPVA AND MID LEVEL THERMAL ADVECTION IN ASSOCIATION WITH THIS SYSTEM SHOULD REMAIN WELL NORTH/NORTHEAST OF OUR AREA. IN ADDITION...THE MID LEVEL SHORT WAVE CURRENTLY OVER THE SOUTHWESTERN CONUS IS EXPECTED TO WEAKEN THROUGH THE NEXT 24 HOURS...THUS PRESENTING LITTLE IF ANY OMEGA TO OUR AREA ONCE IT NEARS THE REGION. GIVEN THE OVERALL LACK IN KINEMATIC FORCING OVER OUR AREA THROUGH THE NEXT 24 HOURS...OPTED TO KEEP THE FORECAST DRY FOR TONIGHT AND TOMORROW. GUIDANCE ALSO SUGGESTS THE SURFACE HIGH...CURRENTLY OVER SOUTH CENTRAL KANSAS...WILL PUSH OFF TO THE EAST/SOUTHEAST TONIGHT...THUS ALLOWING WEAK SURFACE RIDGING INTO OUR AREA OVERNIGHT TONIGHT INTO SATURDAY MORNING. ISENTROPIC UPGLIDE SHOULD DISSIPATE ACROSS OUR AREA LATER TONIGHT AS THE LOW LEVEL BAROCLINIC ZONE OVER CENTRAL AND EASTERN PORTIONS OF KANSAS PUSHES OFF TO THE EAST/SOUTHEAST ALONG WITH THE SURFACE LOW. THIS SHOULD BRING AN END TO THE STRATUS CURRENTLY OVER NORTHWESTERN PORTIONS OF OUR CWA. ALSO...THE INCREASED MID LEVEL MOISTURE...BEING USHERED INTO OUR AREA FROM THE SOUTHWEST BY THE SOUTHWESTERN CONUS MID LEVEL SHORT WAVE...IS EXPECTED TO DISSIPATE THROUGH THE NEXT 24 HOURS AS THE SHORT WAVE ALSO DISSIPATES. GIVEN AL THIS...A CLEARING TREND SHOULD BE OBSERVED ACROSS OUR AREA THROUGH THE NEXT 12 OR SO HOURS...WITH MOSTLY CLEAR SKIES EXPECTED THEREAFTER. WENT AHEAD AND KEPT THE INCREASED CLOUD COVER GOING IN THE FORECAST FOR NORTHWESTERN PORTIONS OF THE CWA THROUGH THIS EVENING TO ACCOUNT FOR THE CURRENT STRATUS...WITH MOSTLY CLEAR SKIES FORECAST ACROSS MOST ALL OF THE CWA 06Z ONWARD. THE COMBINATION OF CLEARING SKIES...A DECREASING LOW LEVEL WIND FIELD...AND THE INFLUX OF A COOLER AND DRIER LOW LEVEL AIRMASS INTO OUR AREA AS THE WEAK SURFACE RIDGE INFILTRATES THE REGION...WILL PROMOTE A CHILLY NIGHT ACROSS THE CWA WITH ~30-DEGREE TEMPERATURE DROP-OFFS LIKELY ACROSS MUCH OF THE AREA. THE ONLY EXCEPTION MAY BE ACROSS OUR NORTHWESTERN CWA WHERE LINGERING CLOUDS MAY LIMIT TEMPERATURE DROP-OFFS FROM REACHING THEIR FULL POTENTIAL. MET/NAM GUIDANCE SEEMS TO HAVE A GOOD HANDLE ON THIS AND OPTED TO PLAY CLOSE TO THIS GUIDANCE FOR LOWS TONIGHT...WHICH PRESENTS TEMPERATURES RANGING FROM THE MID-20S TO THE MID-30S. THE SURFACE RIDGE SHOULD PASS OFF TO THE EAST OF OUR AREA SATURDAY AFTERNOON...THUS ALLOWING FOR WEAK LOW LEVEL RETURN FLOW BY LATE IN THE DAY. WITH MOSTLY CLEAR SKIES AND A FAIRLY DRY LOW LEVEL AIRMASS...SATURDAY TEMPERATURE-RISES ON THE ORDER OF 25-30 DEGREES SEEM REASONABLE...WHICH PRESENTS SATURDAY HIGH TEMPERATURES GENERALLY IN THE MID TO UPPER 50S. LONG TERM...SATURDAY NIGHT THROUGH FRIDAY. MOST DAYS WILL SEE ABOVE NORMAL HIGH TEMPERATURES EXCEPT FOR TUESDAY. IN ADDITION...OUTSIDE OF A FEW ISOLATED SPRINKLES IT SHOULD BE A DRY PERIOD. SATURDAY NIGHT...A WEAK SHORTWAVE TROUGH WILL TRACK SOUTHEAST THROUGH IOWA...AND CLOUDS WILL INCREASE OVERNIGHT ACROSS IOWA AND NEBRASKA. A FEW SPRINKLES MAY EXTEND AS FAR WEST AS CENTRAL NEBRASKA...BUT MOST AREAS WILL REMAIN DRY. WE CAME VERY CLOSE TO PULLING THE SPRINKLES OUT OF THE FORECAST...BUT WILL LEAVE THEM IN THE FORECAST THROUGH ONE MORE MODEL CYCLE. SUNDAY...A WEAK RIDGE IN THE GENERALLY NORTHWEST FLOW REGIME WILL BE PASSING THROUGH DURING THE DAY AND THE SFC WIND WILL BE LIGHT...BUT WITH A SOUTHWESTERLY COMPONENT THROUGH MOST OF THE DAY. THEREFORE...EXPECT SUNDAY WILL BE A FEW DEGREES WARMER THAN SATURDAY AND ABOVE NORMAL WITH HIGH TEMPERATURES IN THE 60S. SUNDAY NIGHT...THE NEXT SHORTWAVE TROUGH EMBEDDED WITHIN THE NORTHWEST FLOW WILL SWING INTO NEBRASKA. THIS WILL BRING DOWN A COLD FRONT AND A CHANCE OF MORE SPRINKLES. CLOUDS WILL HELP TO KEEP LOW TEMPERATURES UP A BIT WITH UPPER 30S TO LOWER 40S EXPECTED. MONDAY...COOLER AIR WILL CONTINUE TO FILTER IN BEHIND THE SUNDAY NIGHT SHORTWAVE/COLD FRONT. TEMPERATURES AT 850MB MAY FALL TO AROUND 0C ACROSS EASTERN ZONES AND EXPECT SFC TEMPERATURES TO BE AROUND 10 DEGREES COOLER THAN ON SUNDAY WITH HIGHS IN THE 50S. TUESDAY THROUGH FRIDAY...AN UPPER RIDGE WILL BUILD ACROSS THE PLAINS AS A LARGE UPPER TROUGH BEGINS TO DIG OVER THE WESTERN CONUS. THIS WILL BE A WARM AND DRY WEATHER PATTERN FOR OUR FORECAST AREA WITH HIGHS GENERALLY IN THE 60S. && .GID WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... NE...NONE. KS...NONE. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS CHARLESTON WV
205 AM EDT SAT NOV 3 2012 .SYNOPSIS... A LOW PRESSURE CENTER PASSES TO THE SOUTH LATE SATURDAY AND SATURDAY NIGHT. ANOTHER SYSTEM PASSES SOUTH AND EAST OF THE REGION FOR MID WEEK. && .NEAR TERM /THROUGH TODAY/... 1000PM UPDATE... APPEARS PREV FCST THINKING STILL HOLDS TRUE. CONCERNS STILL EXIST FOR SOME PATCHY -FRDZ OVERNIGHT IN N MTNS AND WILL KEEP SOME WORDING IN WX GRIDS. 730PM UPDATE... SOLID DECK OF 4 TO 5 THSD FOOT CLDS INVADING FROM NW...AFFECTING PORTIONS OF SE OH AND N WV THIS EVE. USED LATEST RUC RH FIELDS ARND 1KM AGL AS A BASE FOR SKY GRIDS OVERNIGHT. TRICK IS SW EXTENT OF THIS CLD SHIELD. THINK MUCH OF TRI STATE AREA WILL STAY VOID OF THIS WITH JUST SOME PASSING CIRRUS. WILL ORIENT A NW TO SE AXIS FROM UNI TO CRW TO N OF BKW...AND POINTS N...TO PAINT IN MOST PESSIMISTIC SKY COVER TONIGHT. NEUTRAL TMP ADVECTION NOTED AT H85 TONIGHT ALONG THIS AXIS SO FEEL GOOD ABOUT GOING OVC ACROSS N WV. SOME LIFT BENEATH H8 ON UPSLOPE FLOW ACROSS N MTNS MAY SQUEEZE OUT A FEW -SHSN. HOWEVER...WITH STOUT SUBSIDENCE ABV -10C...AM CONCERNED FOR SOME PATCHY -FR DZ. WILL CONT MENTION IN WX GRIDS ATTM. PEAKED OUT INTO TOMORROW TO PUSH BACK POPS ACROSS NE KY/S WV UNTIL LATE AFTN BASED ON LATEST MDL RUNS. PREVIOUS DISCUSSION BELOW... AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PERIOD THE UPPER 500MB LOW PROGGED TO BE LOCATED OFF THE SOUTHERN NEW ENGLAND COAST WITH NW FLOW ALOFT OVER THE AREA. AT THE SURFACE...HIGH PRESSURE WILL BE NOSING IN FROM THE NORTHWEST. GOOD FORCING FOR SUBSIDENCE WILL CONTINUE OVER THE AREA TONIGHT ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE UPPER LOW. DESPITE THIS...WILL RAMP UP POPS AGAIN TO LOW/MID CHANCE DURING THE OVERNIGHT/EARLY MORNING HOURS IN THE EASTERN HIGH TERRAIN MAINLY WEBSTER COUNTY AND POINTS NORTHEAST WITH FAVORABLE UPSLOPE CONDITIONS AND TRAPPED LLVL MOISTURE IN PLACE. DO HAVE A CONCERN HOWEVER WITH FREEZING DRIZZLE/MIST IN THOSE AREAS. NAM/GFS/SREF SOUNDINGS ARE ALL DRY AT -10C WITH GOOD SATURATION ONLY EXTENDING TO ABOUT -7C TO -8C AND SFC TEMPS WELL BELOW FREEZING. TOUGH CALL ON THIS REGARDING PRECIP TYPE HOWEVER AS OFTENTIMES IT SEEMS SOUNDINGS IN THIS AREA WOULD INDICATE FREEZING DRIZZLE YET SNOW IS STILL THE RESULT. QPF AMOUNTS ARE IN THE TWO TO FIVE HUNDREDTHS ROUGHLY. WILL LEAVE ANY ICE ACCUM OUT OF GRIDS FOR NOW AND LET EVENING SHIFT TAKE ANOTHER LOOK WITH SUBSEQUENT DATA. PRECIP SHOULD QUICKLY WIND DOWN DURING THE MORNING HOURS ACROSS THE HIGH TERRAIN. HEIGHTS INITIALLY RISE DURING THE MORNING HOURS AS UPPER LOW CONTINUES AWAY FROM AREA BUT ANOTHER S/W TROUGH DIGGING THROUGH THE CENTRAL MISS VALLEY ESSENTIALLY TURNING THE FLOW FROM NW DURING THE MORNING TO ZONAL BY END OF PERIOD. A WARM FRONT WILL EXTEND EASTWARD FROM SFC LOW OVER WEST/CENTRAL TENN TO AROUND THE NC/VA BORDER BY LATE AFT SATURDAY. SOME WEAK ISENTROPIC LIFT IS NOTED ON 300K-305K SFCS WELL ABOVE AGL AND THE SOUNDING IS VERY WEAKLY CONVECTIVE. BUT AS PREV FCST NOTED...MUCH OF THE FORCING IS FRONTOGENETIC IN NATURE AND FLOW AT H85 AND H7 ESSENTIALLY PARALLEL TO WARM FRONT...SO NOT REALLY AN OVERRUNNING SCENARIO. ELECTED TO SLOW DOWN POPS JUST A TAD BUT PREV FCST STILL HAD A GENERAL GOOD HANDLE ON PRECIP MOVING INTO THE SW ZONES BY END OF PERIOD. && .SHORT TERM /TONIGHT THROUGH MONDAY/... LOW PRESSURE PASSES S OF THE AREA THIS WEEKEND. ASSOCIATED WARM ADVECTION AND ISENTROPIC LIFT SPREADS PRECIPITATION INTO SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE AREA LATE SAT OR SAT EVENING DEPENDING UPON HOW LONG IT TAKES TO MOISTEN THE LOW LEVELS. EXPECT PRECIPITATION TO BE LIGHT GIVEN VERY ACUTE ANGLE ON PRESSURE ADVECTION ON THE 295 AND 300 K ISENTROPIC SURFACES. MAINLY A RAIN EVENT GIVEN THERMAL FIELDS. EVEN WHERE NEAR 0C AT H85...THERE IS NO MECHANISM TO GET SURFACE TEMPERATURES DOWN TO FREEZING ACROSS LOWLANDS. SOME SNOW IS POSSIBLE HIGH TERRAIN OF CENTRAL MOUNTAINS SAT NT BUT HAVE LOW CHANCE THERE ON NORTHERN EDGE OF SYSTEM. SYSTEM PULLS AWAY SUN BUT UPPER LEVEL S/W TROUGH WILL LIKELY KEEP SOME CLOUDS AROUND. THIS FEATURE EXITS FIRST THING MON MORNING...ALLOWING HIGH PRESSURE TO PROVIDE FOR A NICE START TO THE NEW WORK WEEK. WITH PRECIPITATION HYDROLOGICALLY INSIGNIFICANT...LOWS IN THE 20S TO AROUND FREEZING AND HIGHS IN THE 40S WHERE THE HIGH TERRAIN SNOW PACK IS...THE SLOW MELT CONTINUES...WITH NOTHING MORE THAN LOCALIZED SMALL STREAM AND CREEK ISSUES WHERE STORM DEBRIS CREATES BLOCKAGES. IT LOOKS LIKE SWE VALUES IN THE SNOW PACK ARE DOWN TO THE TWO TO FOUR INCH RANGE. BLENDED IN BIAS CORRECTED ADJMET ON TEMPERATURES EARLY ON AND THEN BIAS CORRECTED CONSALL - OVERALL NO MAJOR CHANGES INVOLVED. && .LONG TERM /MONDAY NIGHT THROUGH FRIDAY/... USED A BLEND OF THE ECMWF AND ECMWF ENSEMBLE MEAN FOR THIS PERIOD. THIS WOULD HAVE A STORM SYSTEM SOUTH AND EAST OF THE REGION POSSIBLY GRAZING THE AREA FOR MID WEEK. A WARM FRONT WOULD THEN PUSH NORTHWARD TOWARD THE END OF THE WEEK. && .AVIATION /06Z SATURDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY/... 06Z SATURDAY THRU 06Z SUNDAY... SHIELD OF STRATUS CLOUDS...VFR CEILINGS LOWLANDS AND MVFR CIGS MOUNTAINS...WILL PREVAIL THRU 12Z NORTH OF A CMH-CRW-BKW LINE. ELSEWHERE MOSTLY CLEAR. AFTER 12Z...STRATUS ERODES FROM SOUTHWEST TO NORTHEAST...BECOMING VFR BY 18Z ALL LOCATIONS. MID CLOUDS INCREASE FROM THE WEST AFTER 18Z AS A WEAK LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM APPROACHES. SOME SCATTERED LIGHT RAIN SHOWERS SOUTHWEST AFTER 21Z...BUT STILL VFR. AFTER 00Z...SOME LIGHT PRECIPITATION...MOSTLY SOUTH...AS THE SYSTEM PASSES JUST SOUTH OF OUR AREA. THIS PRECIP SHOULD EXIT MOST AREAS AROUND 06Z. SNOW POSSIBLE MAINLY ABOVE 3000 FEET AGL. IN ANY CASE...VFR WILL PREVAIL...POSSIBLY BRIEF MVFR IN ANY HEAVIER SHOWER. A WEAK SYS WILL PASS MAINLY TO S THRU TN VALLEY LATE SAT. HOWEVER...ENOUGH MOISTURE AND LIFT MAY ALLOW FOR SOME -SHRA ACROSS S WV/SW VA TOWARD THE END OF TAF PERIOD. FORECAST CONFIDENCE AND ALTERNATE SCENARIOS THROUGH 06Z SUNDAY... FORECAST CONFIDENCE: MEDIUM. ALTERNATE SCENARIOS: TIMING OF CIG HEIGHTS AND PRECIP CONDITIONS AT EKN MAY VARY. EXPERIMENTAL TABLE OF FLIGHT CATEGORY OBJECTIVELY SHOWS CONSISTENCY OF WFO FORECAST TO AVAILABLE MODEL INFORMATION: H = HIGH: TAF CONSISTENT WITH ALL MODELS OR ALL BUT ONE MODEL. M = MEDIUM: TAF HAS VARYING LEVEL OF CONSISTENCY WITH MODELS. L = LOW: TAF INCONSISTENT WITH ALL MODELS OR ALL BUT ONE MODEL. DATE SAT 11/03/12 UTC 1HRLY 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 EDT 1HRLY 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 CRW CONSISTENCY H H H H H H H H H H H H HTS CONSISTENCY H H H H H H H H H H H H BKW CONSISTENCY H H H H H H H H H H H H EKN CONSISTENCY H H H M H M M H H M M H PKB CONSISTENCY H H H H H H H H H H H H CKB CONSISTENCY M M M H M M M M M M H H AFTER 06Z SUNDAY... NO WIDESPREAD IFR EXPECTED. && .RLX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... WV...NONE. OH...NONE. KY...NONE. VA...NONE. && $$ SYNOPSIS...TRM/RPY/50 NEAR TERM...50/30 SHORT TERM...TRM LONG TERM...RPY AVIATION...JMV
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION FOR SOUTHEAST SD/SOUTHWEST MN/NORTHWEST IA
NWS SIOUX FALLS SD
325 AM CDT SAT NOV 3 2012 .DISCUSSION.../ISSUED ATY 325 AM CDT/ MULTIPLE CLOUD LAYERS FROM SC TO AC WILL BE PASSING OVER MOST OF THE FORECAST AREA TODAY WITH ONLY THE FAR SOUTHWEST CORNER HAVING HOPE FOR SOME DECENT SUNSHINE. SOME OF THE LOWER DECKS MAY TEND TO BREAK UP LATER IN THE DAY BUT HIGHER AC SEEN ON LATEST IMAGERY IS PINNED BY MODELS TO PASS OVER OUR SOUTHERN AREA. MEANWHILE...RUC INDICATED SOME LIFT WITH THE CURRENT MID DECK WHICH SEEMS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE FEW SPRINKLES MOVING ACROSS OUR NORTH. GOING BY RUC AND OTHER MODELS LACK OF LIFT DURING THE DAY...WILL NOT EXTEND THOSE SPRINKLES PAST 12Z/7 AM CDT RIGHT NOW. ALL THE CLOUDS WILL HAVE THE EXPECTED DAMPENING OF HIGH TEMPERATURES WHICH SHOULD AGAIN BE LOWER THAN GUIDANCE. NOT A BAD DAY THOUGH WITH WINDS LIKELY HOLDING TO LESS THAN 10 MPH. PERHAPS LATE IN THE DAY OR THIS EVENING SKIES OVERALL WILL PARTIALLY CLEAR OVER THE SOUTHWEST HALF OF OUR FORECAST AREA. WILL KEEP A SLIGHT CHANCE OF LIGHT RAIN OR SNOW NORTHEAST CORNER FOR THIS EVENING AS THE GFS DEPICTION OF MID LEVEL MOISTURE AND A LITTLE LIFT FITS OUR EARLIER FORECAST OF THIS. THE DECREASE IN CLOUDS MAY EXTEND INTO OUR EASTERN/NORTHEASTERN AREA EARLY SUNDAY EVEN AS CLOUDS FROM DIGGING UPPER WAVE START TO INCREASE AGAIN FROM THE WEST. NAM IS THE OBVIOUS OUTLIER ON THE BEHAVIOR OF THIS SYSTEM AND WILL GO FOR THE DIGGING NATURE OF SYSTEM INDICATED BY THE GFS...EC...AND EVEN THE PLACID CANADIAN. THIS MEANS KEEPING THE THREAT OF RAIN INCREASING FROM THE WEST SUNDAY AFTERNOON...AND KEEPING LIKELY RAIN THREAT OVER MUCH OF THE AREA SUNDAY NIGHT. WILL KEEP A VERY MINIMAL MENTION OF A LITTLE WET SNOW POSSIBLY MIXED IN NEAR/WEST OF THE JAMES VALLEY LATE SUNDAY NIGHT BUT NO ACCUMULATION. ASSUMING MOST MODELS HAVE THE DIGGING NATURE OF THE SYSTEM PEGGED...EXPECT A LITTLE LINGERING LIGHT RAIN CHANCE MONDAY DECREASING TO THE EAST. CLOUDS SHOULD THEN DECREASE MONDAY NIGHT WITH DECENT UPPER RIDGING AS SYSTEM MOVES SOUTHEAST AWAY FROM AREA. THE TUESDAY THROUGH FRIDAY EXTENDED PERIOD LOOKS DRY AND MILD. NOT REAL WARM AS RIDGING DOES NOT SEEM TO GET STRONG ENOUGH FAR ENOUGH NORTH TO BRING THE WARM AIR INTO SD...THOUGH IT IS POSSIBLE THAT OUR FORECAST OF 50S MAY NOT BE WARM ENOUGH LATE IN THE WEEK DEPENDING ON HOW STRING THE RIDGING TURNS OUT TO BE AHEAD OF MAJOR TROF APPROACHING FROM THE WEST NEXT WEEKEND. && .AVIATION.../FOR THE 06Z TAFS/ ROTTEN STRATUS WILL MOVE THROUGH THE REGION OVERNIGHT AND CONTINUE TO PLAGUE THE AREA MUCH OF THE DAY ON SATURDAY. STRATUS WILL BE MOST PERSISTENT IN THE NORTH...AND MAY DIP INTO THE MVFR RANGE TEMPORARILY. MVFR CEILINGS WILL BE MORE PERSISTENT AT THE KHON TERMINAL...BUT SHOULD GRADUALLY RAISE DURING THE DAY. LIGHT WINDS WILL TRANSITION TO WESTERLY FLOW...THEN TAKE ON A NORTHEAST FLAVOR SATURDAY EVENING BUT REMAIN LIGHT. && .FSD WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... SD...NONE. MN...NONE. IA...NONE. NE...NONE. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS SPOKANE WA
1049 PM PDT Fri Nov 2 2012 .SYNOPSIS... A drying and warming trend will slowly return to much of the Columbia Basin courtesy of a strengthening ridge of high pressure. Weak systems brushing the ridge will bring some light rain at times to the Cascades and mountains near the Canadian border. Much cooler and unsettled weather will likely arrive by the end of the week. Temperatures will likely be cold enough that most of the precipitation will fall as snow. && .DISCUSSION... Update: forecast update sent to increase PoPs and coverage from the west through the rest of the night. Regional radar trends show a modest band of precipitation from northwest Washington to north- central Oregon. Some of the heavier precipitation has been found west of Yakima, at least in terms of the reflectivity signal. Latest HRRR runs and radar extrapolation brings this precipitation into the western CWA between 03-06Z (8 PM to 11 PM) and eastward through the remainder of the night. The quandary: how well will it hold together as it moves off the higher terrain? I expect it will weaken some, limiting how much actually is capable of being measured/reaching the ground. However the radar returns warrant at least adding scattered to isolated showers across the Basin this evening, expanding through Spokane area and Palouse late tonight into the overnight in isolated fashion. I added some fog near the Cascades and the Basin Saturday morning, where some cloud breaks are possible late in the overnight. With incoming mid and high clouds determining coverage and intensity and duration of any fog will be difficult. As such I left it as only patchy fog. /J. Cote` && .AVIATION... 06Z TAFS: A weak upper wave moves across the region, with a threat of isolated showers in the vcnty of TAF sites, with the threat moving primarily to the eastern TAFs during the day Saturday. Tonight a thickening and lowering of clouds is expected. VFR and occasional MVFR conditions are expected. Toward morning, the light east to southeast winds will bring a threat of some IFR stratus near KGEG and again near KMWH and KEAT, along with some patchy fog. Confidence remains low, due to the passing mid and high clouds that may inhibit such development. Some drier air coming in above the surface near sunrise near KEAT/KMWH will allow a better threat of said IFR stratus to develop. Conditions improve through the late morning and afternoon, with more mid and high clouds streaming in ahead of the next weak wave. /J. Cote` && .PRELIMINARY POINT TEMPS/POPS... Spokane 42 55 44 56 45 59 / 20 20 20 20 10 10 Coeur d`Alene 41 54 43 56 44 58 / 20 30 30 20 10 10 Pullman 44 58 45 57 46 62 / 20 20 10 20 10 0 Lewiston 44 60 47 61 48 64 / 20 10 10 20 0 0 Colville 44 54 43 57 43 61 / 30 40 40 40 20 20 Sandpoint 42 52 44 54 41 58 / 20 50 60 50 20 20 Kellogg 38 47 42 50 43 55 / 20 30 30 30 10 20 Moses Lake 42 58 45 61 45 60 / 50 10 10 10 0 0 Wenatchee 44 55 48 61 46 59 / 50 10 10 10 10 10 Omak 45 55 44 59 43 59 / 50 20 20 20 10 10 && .OTX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... ID...None. WA...None. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION...UPDATED
NWS PEACHTREE CITY GA
1052 AM EDT SAT NOV 3 2012 .UPDATE... SO SIGNIFICANT CHANGES PLANNED TO THE FORECAST AT THIS TIME. HAVE MADE SOME UPDATES TO ACCOUNT FOR TEMP/DEWPOINT TRENDS...TEMPS RUNNING A LITTLE BELOW FORECAST BUT WITH FULL SUN THEY SHOULD CATCH UP NICELY SO OVERALL NO CHANGES WORTH ISSUING NEW PRODUCTS OVER. NEW HRRR AND THE 00Z FFCWRF KEEP CONVECTION COMPLETELY OUT OF THE AREA UNTIL AFTER 06Z...AND PRETTY ANEMIC AT THAT...SO CURRENT POPS HANDLE THAT WELL AT THIS TIME. WILL REEVALUATE IF NECESSARY WITH THE AFTERNOON PACKAGE. TDP && .PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 747 AM EDT SAT NOV 3 2012/ PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 425 AM EDT SAT NOV 3 2012/ SHORT TERM /TODAY THROUGH SUNDAY NIGHT/... NORTHWEST FLOW PATTERN AND LONG WAVE TROUGH WILL DOMINATE MUCH OF ERN CONUS THROUGH AT LEAST WED. FIRST OF TWO SHORT WAVES...THE FIRST BEING SIGNIFICANTLY WEAKER...WILL MOVE SE INTO THE MID MS VALLEY SUNDAY WITH WEAK TO MDT WAA ACROSS THE MID SOUTH THROUGH NRN GA AND THE MID ATLANTIC. NOT ENOUGH COMBINED LIFT TO GENERATE MUCH MORE THEN SCT LIGHT SHRA. WITH FAIRLY WARM TEMPS AND WEAK MOISTURE ADVECTION...INSTABILITY WILL BECOME AN ISSUE. 00Z MODELS...ESP 00Z NAM DEVELOPS SOME ELEVATED INSTABILITY TONIGHT...AND EVEN SFC BASED INSTABILITY SUNDAY AFTERNOON...WITH 1000 J/KG AROUND 18-21Z. DUE TO UNCERTAINTY ABOUT MOISTURE RETURN...HIGH MOISTURE BIAS IN NAM AND LACK OF MODEL CONSENSUS...HAVE NOT INCLUDED TSRA IN FCST FOR TONIGHT. DID ADD TSRA FOR SUNDAY AFTERNOON WITH GOOD MODEL CONSENSUS AND FAIRLY WARM TEMPERATURES. DO NOT EXPECT ANY SVR STORMS ATTM AS LARGE SCALE ASCENT....LACK OF STRONG SFC FORCING AND SOMEWHAT WEAK VERTICAL WIND SHEAR FOR THIS TIME OF YEAR WILL NOT BE AT FAVORABLE LEVELS. WEAK FRONT ASSOCIATED WITH WAVE SHOULD PUSH OUT OF CWA BY LATE SUN NIGHT...SO HAVE PUSHED OUT POPS FAIRLY QUICKLY BEHIND FRONT. USED BIAS-CORRECTED MAV/MET BLEND FOR TODAY/TONIGHT AND MAV/MET BLEND WITH HIGHER WEIGHT TOWARD MAV FOR SUN AND SUN NIGHT. SNELSON LONG TERM /MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY/... EXTENDED MODELS CONTINUE IN GOOD AGREEMENT THROUGH THE WORK WEEK. SHORT WAVE SWINGS OUT OF THE PLAINS MONDAY AFTERNOON INTO THE SOUTHEAST TUESDAY AND INTENSIFIES AS IT LIFTS INTO THE NORTHEAST. FOR THE FORECAST AREA...BOTH MODELS DEVELOP A SURFACE LOW OVER THE NORTHERN GULF OF MEXICO THAT TRACKS OVER SOUTH GEORGIA THROUGH THE DAY. THE TRACK WILL KEEP BEST RAIN CHANCES OVER SOUTH GEORGIA AND BEST INSTABILITY REMAINS OVER FLORIDA. WILL CONTINUE SHOWERS...WITH GOOD CLOUD COVER. NORTHWEST FLOW ALOFT WITH NORTHERLY FLOW AT THE SURFACE WILL BRING ANOTHER COLD SHOT TO THE AREA BY MIDWEEK WITH TEMPERATURES 5 TO 10 DEGREES BELOW NORMALS FOR THIS TIME OF YEAR... BEFORE MODERATING TO NEAR NORMAL BY WEEKS END. ATWELL AVIATION... 12Z UPDATE... VFR CONDITIONS WILL PERSIST THRU AT LEAST 12Z SUNDAY. AS A FRONT APPROACHES FROM THE WEST...LIGHT WINDS WILL LIKELY SWITCH TO SE AROUND 14-17Z THIS MORNING BEFORE VEERING TO SW 4-8KTS. CU AROUND 4000FT SHOULD STAY SCT ALL DAY BEFORE DISSIPATING BEFORE SUNSET. CLOUDS WILL INCREASE SUNDAY MORNING AFTER 14Z AS THE COLD FRONT MOVES INTO THE STATE. //ATL CONFIDENCE...12Z UPDATE... MEDIUM CONF ON DURATION OF SE WINDS THIS MORNING. HIGH CONF ON ALL OTHER ELEMENTS. SNELSON && .PRELIMINARY POINT TEMPS/POPS... ATHENS 74 53 73 48 / 5 10 20 20 ATLANTA 76 58 72 49 / 0 20 20 20 BLAIRSVILLE 71 50 62 41 / 10 20 30 10 CARTERSVILLE 76 54 68 43 / 5 20 20 10 COLUMBUS 82 59 79 52 / 0 10 30 20 GAINESVILLE 73 55 69 47 / 5 20 20 20 MACON 80 53 80 51 / 0 10 30 20 ROME 77 52 67 41 / 5 20 30 10 PEACHTREE CITY 78 51 73 44 / 0 10 20 20 VIDALIA 78 57 81 55 / 0 10 30 30 && .FFC WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... NONE. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS CHICAGO/ROMEOVILLE IL
1104 AM CDT SAT NOV 3 2012 .DISCUSSION... 751 AM CDT MINOR QUICK UPDATES THIS MORNING TO ACCOUNT FOR ONGOING SHOWERS OVER AREAS ALONG AND SOUTH OF A LINE FROM PONTIAC IN ILLINOIS EAST TO FOWLER IN INDIANA. LATEST RADAR IMAGERY DEPICTING A SMALL AREA OF SHOWERS ACROSS THE FAR SOUTHERN TIER OF THE CWA OUT AHEAD OF A MID LEVEL TROUGH AXIS AND AREA OF WAA. INCREASED POPS TO ACCOUNT FOR THESE IN THE NEAR TERM...BUT WITH THESE SHOWERS TO EXIT TO THE EAST/SOUTHEAST OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL HOURS WITH MID LEVEL WINDS VEERING AND BETTER FORCING/WAA EXITING THE CWA. BEST INSTABILITY CURRENTLY RESIDES JUST SOUTH OF THE CWA WHERE RAP ANALYSIS IS SHOWING MUCAPE UP TO 250J/KG...WHERE A FEW LIGHTNING STRIKES HAVE ALSO BEEN REPORTED. PRECIP IN OUR CWA SHOULD REMAIN ONLY SHOWERS BEFORE EXITING...WITH AT MOST A FEW LIGHTNING STRIKES IF THIS WERE TO EVEN OCCUR. RODRIGUEZ //PREV DISCUSSION... 414 AM CDT LARGE SCALE PATTERN TO REMAIN ACTIVE ACROSS THE EASTERN PACIFIC...NORTH AMERICA...AND THE WESTERN ATLANTIC OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL DAYS THOUGH MODELS DO NOT SHOW ANY MAJOR WEATHER SYSTEMS AFFECTING OUR REGION. WHILE SEVERAL DISTURBANCES HAVE MOVED AND WILL CONTINUE TO MOVE ACROSS THE CONTINENT THE OVERALL PATTERN OF AN UPPER TROUGH OVER EASTERN NORTH AMERICA AND A RIDGE OVER THE EASTERN PACIFIC AND WESTERN NORTH AMERICA HAS PERSISTED FOR SEVERAL DAYS AND LOOKS TO REMAIN BASICALLY UNCHANGED UNTIL WE APPROACH MID NEXT WEEK. BY THAT TIME A RATHER SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IN THE OVERALL UPPER PATTERN IS TO HAVE GOTTEN UNDERWAY WITH THE EASTERN NORTH AMERICAN UPPER TROUGH BEING DISPLACED OFF TO THE NORTHEAST OVER THE GULF OF ST. LAWRENCE BY AN UPPER TROUGH TO DEEPEN AS A STRONG JET MAX...THE NOSE OF WHICH WAS CURRENTLY APPROACHING VANCOUVER ISLAND...DIGS SOUTH-SOUTHEAST FROM SASKATCHEWAN AND SOUTHERN MANITOBA OVER THE UPPER AND MS VALLEY...CARVING OUT A SHARP UPPER TROUGH OVER THE OH AND TN VALLEYS AND PROGRESSING EAST TO THE CENTRAL AND SOUTHERN APPALACHIANS BY LATER TUESDAY. UPSTREAM...THIS ALLOWS A STRONG BROAD UPPER RIDGE TO ADVANCE FROM THE WEST COAST TO THE ROCKIES. DURING WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAY THE EASTERN UPPER TROUGH/LOW IS PROGGED TO LIFT NORTHEASTWARD FROM THE MID ATLANTIC COAST TO SOUTHERN NEW ENGLAND...WITH THE UPPER RIDGE MOVING EAST ACROSS THE PLAINS AS A DEEP TROUGH DEVELOPS FROM B.C. SOUTH TO THE NORTHERN CA COAST. TEMPERATURES TO CONTINUE RUNNING A FEW DEGREES BELOW NORMALS THROUGH THE WEEKEND AND INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK THEN MODERATING VERY SLIGHTLY TO NEAR NORMALS FOR MID NEXT WEEK BEFORE MORE SUBSTANTIAL WARMING SPREADS EAST WITH THE UPPER RIDGE AND RAISES TEMPERATURES TO 8...POSSIBLY 10 DEGREES F ABOVE NORMAL BY LATE WEEK. NOTE HOWEVER THAT SOME OF THIS INCREASE AS COMPARED TO NORMALS IS TO TO THE FACT THAT NORMALS TEMPERATURES FALL AT ABOUT 1 DEGREE F EVERY TWO DAYS DUE TO THE INCREASINGLY SHORTER DAYS. SO...BESIDES TEMPERATURES RISING THE NORMALS WILL BE FALLING. LITTLE THREAT OF ANY PRECIPITATION THROUGH NEXT WEEK WITH THE BEST CHANCE...THOUGH STILL ONLY A SMALL ONE...TO BE DURING TUESDAY INTO TUESDAY NIGHT WHEN THERE IS THE POSSIBILITY OF SOME LIGHT RAIN OR RAIN SHOWERS AS A DISTURBANCE DROPS SOUTHEAST ACROSS THE UPPER MIDWEST INTO THE NORTHERN GREAT LAKES. OTHERWISE...ONLY A SLIGHT CHANCE OF SOME LAKE EFFECT SPRINKLES/VERY LIGHT RAIN SHOWERS NEAR LAKE MI TONIGHT. IN THE SHORT...TERM WEAK RADAR ECHOES WERE OBSERVED MOVING FROM NORTHWEST IL SOUTHEASTWARD DURING THE LATE EVENING AND EARLY DURING THE OVERNIGHT BUT THEY HAVE DISSIPATED OVER THE LAST COUPLE HOURS. MEANWHILE...AS ANTICIPATED LAST NIGHT...FORCING HAD SHIFTED SOUTH TO NORTHEAST MO AND CENTRAL IL AHEAD OF A SHORT WAVE MOVING EAST FROM EASTERN KS AND NE TO IA AND MO. THIS FORCING IS ALONG A STRONG BAROCLINIC ZONE /PER 03.00Z RAOBS 850 HPA TEMPERATURES OF +12C AND +17C AT TOP AND SGF RESPECTIVELY... WITH MPX AT 0C AND GRB -6C/ THAT EXTENDS NW-SE ACROSS IA AND IL TO THE LOWER OH VALLEY. THIS FORCING HAS RESULTED IN ELEVATED CONVECTION BREAKING OUT ACROSS CENTRAL IL SOUTH OF U.S. 136. THE SHORT WAVE IS PROGGED TO CONTINUE EASTWARD ACROSS THE MID MS VALLEY TODAY THOUGH WEAKEN AS IT DOES. WITH THE MAIN FORCING REMAINING ACROSS CENTRAL IL ONLY THE EXTREME SOUTHERN FRINGE OF THE LOCAL FORECAST AREA WILL HAVE A SLIGHT CHANCE OF A A FEW SHOWERS THIS MORNING. LOW LEVEL FLOW OVER SOUTHERN LAKE MI HAS BECOME RATER LIGHT EAST- NORTHEAST. WHILE LAKE EFFECT CLOUDS CONTINUE TO BE GENERATED BY THE COOL AIR FLOWING OVER THE RELATIVELY WARM WATER THE SHORT FETCH AND SUPPRESSED EQUILIBRIUM LEVEL WILL PREVENT ANY LAKE EFFECT SHOWERS TODAY. TONIGHT...LOW LEVEL FLOW RETURNS TO NORTH AND NORTH-NORTHEAST. THE INCREASED FETCH DOWN THE LAKE WILL ENCOURAGE ADDITIONAL LAKE EFFECT CLOUDS AND POSSIBLY SOME SHOWERS THOUGH CLOUD DEPTHS BASED ON FORECAST TEMPERATURE PROFILES OVER THE WATER TONIGHT SUGGEST THEY WOULD BE ONLY SOME SPRINKLES NEAR THE LAKE OR AT THE MOST A FEW SMALL LIGHT RAIN SHOWERS. DURING SUNDAY AND SUNDAY NIGHT A SHORT WAVE EJECTED FROM THE UPPER LOW IN THE GULF OF AK IS PROGGED TO DROP SOUTH-SOUTHEAST FROM SOUTHERN SASKATCHEWAN ACROSS THE DAKOTAS AND TO THE MID MO VALLEY. MODELS THEN TURN IT TO THE SOUTHEAST AND EAST-SOUTHEAST MONDAY AND TO THE TN VALLEY MONDAY NIGHT. THIS TRACK IS WELL REMOVED FROM THE LOCAL AREA AND ANY ASSOCIATED RAIN WILL STAY TO THE WEST THROUGH SOUTH OF THE FORECAST AREA. THE ONE CHANCE OF RAIN DURING THE NEXT SEVEN DAYS COMES ON TUESDAY INTO TUESDAY NIGHT AS A SHORT WAVE DROPS FROM MANITOBA AND WESTERN ONTARIO TO THE UPPER GREAT LAKES. BEST FORCING WITH THIS DISTURBANCE WILL BE ACROSS THE NORTH WOODS AND THE NORTHERN GREAT LAKES...WITH ONLY A SLIGHT CHANCE OF MEASURABLE RAIN AS FAR SOUTH AS NORTH CENTRAL AND NORTHEAST IL WITH JUST A SLIGHT CHANCE FURTHER S TOWARDS CENTRAL IL. TRS && .AVIATION... //ORD AND MDW CONCERNS...UPDATED 16Z... * MVFR CIGS 2500-3000 FT LINGERING THROUGH EARLY AFTERNOON. * LOW PROBABILITY POTENTIAL FOR A FEW SPRINKLES FOR SAME TIME RANGE. RATZER //DISCUSSION...UPDATED 16Z... 12Z GUIDANCE MAINTAINS TREND OF HOLDING 2500-3000 FT CIGS ACROSS CHI AREA TERMINALS THROUGH EARLY AFTERNOON...WITH INDICATION OF SCATTERING OF LOWER CLOUDS MID/LATE AFTERNOON. WEAK RADAR RETURNS DRIFTING WEST-SOUTHWEST OFF LAKE MICHIGAN INDICATE POTENTIAL FOR A FEW SPRINKLES...THOUGH REFLECTIVITY HAS WEAKENED OVER PAST 2 HOURS AND FORECAST WIND PROFILES APPEAR TO WEAKEN FOR A TIME THIS AFTERNOON LOWERING PROBABILITY OF ORGANIZED PRECIP. RATZER PREVIOUS DISCUSSION FROM 12Z... HIGH PRESSURE REMAINS ANCHORED FROM WESTERN ONTARIO SOUTHWARD INTO EASTERN WI. THE FLOW AROUND THIS FEATURE CONTINUES AND WILL THROUGH TODAY...MEANING NORTHEAST WINDS ACROSS THE AREA. THERE MAY BE A LITTLE LAKE EMPHASIS THIS AFTERNOON THAT COULD LEAD TO A FEW KNOT INCREASE...BUT ALL IN ALL A FAIRLY PERSISTENT NORTHEAST WIND WILL PREVAIL. THE FLOW OFF THE WARM LAKE CONTINUES TO OFFER STRATOCUMULUS CLOUDS. THESE SHOULD REMAIN BROKEN OVER ORD AND DPA FOR MUCH IF NOT THE ENTIRE MORNING WITH A GRADUAL LIFTING AND POTENTIALLY SOME SCATTERING EXPECTED THIS AFTERNOON. AS FOR THE SOUTHERN CHICAGOLAND SITES OF MDW AND GYY...THE BROKEN CIGS ARE LIKELY TO BE MORE TEMPORARY...WITH MORNING MODEL TRAJECTORIES BEING MORE FROM THE EAST AS OPPOSED TO THE NORTH/NORTHEAST AND THE HEART OF THE LAKE. A COUPLE UPPER LEVEL DISTURBANCES MOVING EAST OVER THE REGION THIS MORNING ARE PRODUCING SOME SCATTERED CONVONECTION OVER CENTRAL IL. THESE SHOULD CONTINUE TO PROGRESS EAST AND REMAIN SOUTH OF THE TAF SITES...HOWEVER WITH A THICK MID- LEVEL CLOUD DECK BUILDING OVER THE REGION AND GRADUAL ASCENT WITHIN THAT LAYER...ATOP A LOWER STRATOCU CLOUD LAYER...THERE MAY BE SOME SPRINKLES IN THE AREA THROUGH EARLY AFTERNOON. TONIGHT WILL SEE NORTHEAST WINDS LIGHTEN...BUT THE FLOW OFF THE LAKE AGAIN WILL POTENTIALLY STEER BACK IN MORE LAKE EFFECT CLOUDS FOR A PERIOD INTO SUNDAY MORNING...ESPEICALLY FOR GYY AIRPORT. //ORD AND MDW CONFIDENCE...UPDATED 16Z... * HIGH CONFIDENCE IN 2500-3500 FT CIGS INTO EARLY AFTERNOON. MEDIUM CONFIDENCE IN SCATTERING OF LOWER CLOUDS MID/LATE AFTN. * HIGH CONFIDENCE THAT ANY LIGHT SHOWERS WILL KEEP VISIBILITY VFR. * HIGH CONFIDENCE IN WIND TRENDS. RATZER //OUTLOOK FOR ORD/MDW FOR 00Z MONDAY-12Z SATURDAY...UPDATED 12Z... SUNDAY NIGHT-MONDAY...VFR. TUESDAY...CHC OF -RA. MVFR POSSIBLE. WEDNESDAY-FRIDAY...VFR. MTF && .MARINE... 212 AM CDT NORTHERLY WINDS CONTINUE OVER THE LAKE...NOW GOING ON ALMOST A WEEK STRAIGHT FROM THAT DIRECTION. THE RIDGE AXIS FROM WESTERN QUEBEC TO NORTHERN IL WILL PUSH OVER THE LAKE BY LATER SUNDAY AND PERSIST INTO THE DAY MONDAY...BRINGING LIGHT WINDS. BEFORE THAT TIME...THE NORTHERLY WINDS AND WAVES WILL SLOWLY DIMINISH TODAY. WAVES OF 4 TO 5 FT WILL REMAIN POSSIBLE IN THE NEARSHORE AREAS OF IL AND IN EVEN AFTER THE SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY EXPIRATION...BUT THAT SHOULD BE ON THE UPPER END OF WAVE HEIGHTS...SO NO EXTENSION IN THE HEADLINE PLANNED AT THIS TIME. AFTER THE RIDGE AXIS PASSES...SOUTHERLY WINDS WILL RETURN OVER THE LAKE AND INCREASE ON TUESDAY AS A LOW PROGRESSES EAST ACROSS THE CANADIAN PRAIRIE PROVINCES. A COLD FRONT EXTENDING SOUTH FROM THIS WILL MOVE EAST OVER THE LAKE SOMETIME TUESDAY NIGHT OR WEDNESDAY. THIS IS NOT EXPECTED TO BE TOO POWERFUL OF A FRONT AS A STRONG LOW OFF THE EAST COAST SHOULD CAUSE THIS NORTHERN STREAM SYSTEM TO SLOW AND LIKELY WEAKEN. MTF && .LOT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... IL...NONE. IN...NONE. LM...NONE. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS CHICAGO/ROMEOVILLE IL
902 AM CDT SAT NOV 3 2012 .DISCUSSION... 751 AM CDT MINOR QUICK UPDATES THIS MORNING TO ACCOUNT FOR ONGOING SHOWERS OVER AREAS ALONG AND SOUTH OF A LINE FROM PONTIAC IN ILLINOIS EAST TO FOWLER IN INDIANA. LATEST RADAR IMAGERY DEPICTING A SMALL AREA OF SHOWERS ACROSS THE FAR SOUTHERN TIER OF THE CWA OUT AHEAD OF A MID LEVEL TROUGH AXIS AND AREA OF WAA. INCREASED POPS TO ACCOUNT FOR THESE IN THE NEAR TERM...BUT WITH THESE SHOWERS TO EXIT TO THE EAST/SOUTHEAST OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL HOURS WITH MID LEVEL WINDS VEERING AND BETTER FORCING/WAA EXITING THE CWA. BEST INSTABILITY CURRENTLY RESIDES JUST SOUTH OF THE CWA WHERE RAP ANALYSIS IS SHOWING MUCAPE UP TO 250J/KG...WHERE A FEW LIGHTNING STRIKES HAVE ALSO BEEN REPORTED. PRECIP IN OUR CWA SHOULD REMAIN ONLY SHOWERS BEFORE EXITING...WITH AT MOST A FEW LIGHTNING STRIKES IF THIS WERE TO EVEN OCCUR. RODRIGUEZ //PREV DISCUSSION... 414 AM CDT LARGE SCALE PATTERN TO REMAIN ACTIVE ACROSS THE EASTERN PACIFIC...NORTH AMERICA...AND THE WESTERN ATLANTIC OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL DAYS THOUGH MODELS DO NOT SHOW ANY MAJOR WEATHER SYSTEMS AFFECTING OUR REGION. WHILE SEVERAL DISTURBANCES HAVE MOVED AND WILL CONTINUE TO MOVE ACROSS THE CONTINENT THE OVERALL PATTERN OF AN UPPER TROUGH OVER EASTERN NORTH AMERICA AND A RIDGE OVER THE EASTERN PACIFIC AND WESTERN NORTH AMERICA HAS PERSISTED FOR SEVERAL DAYS AND LOOKS TO REMAIN BASICALLY UNCHANGED UNTIL WE APPROACH MID NEXT WEEK. BY THAT TIME A RATHER SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IN THE OVERALL UPPER PATTERN IS TO HAVE GOTTEN UNDERWAY WITH THE EASTERN NORTH AMERICAN UPPER TROUGH BEING DISPLACED OFF TO THE NORTHEAST OVER THE GULF OF ST. LAWRENCE BY AN UPPER TROUGH TO DEEPEN AS A STRONG JET MAX...THE NOSE OF WHICH WAS CURRENTLY APPROACHING VANCOUVER ISLAND...DIGS SOUTH-SOUTHEAST FROM SASKATCHEWAN AND SOUTHERN MANITOBA OVER THE UPPER AND MS VALLEY...CARVING OUT A SHARP UPPER TROUGH OVER THE OH AND TN VALLEYS AND PROGRESSING EAST TO THE CENTRAL AND SOUTHERN APPALACHIANS BY LATER TUESDAY. UPSTREAM...THIS ALLOWS A STRONG BROAD UPPER RIDGE TO ADVANCE FROM THE WEST COAST TO THE ROCKIES. DURING WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAY THE EASTERN UPPER TROUGH/LOW IS PROGGED TO LIFT NORTHEASTWARD FROM THE MID ATLANTIC COAST TO SOUTHERN NEW ENGLAND...WITH THE UPPER RIDGE MOVING EAST ACROSS THE PLAINS AS A DEEP TROUGH DEVELOPS FROM B.C. SOUTH TO THE NORTHERN CA COAST. TEMPERATURES TO CONTINUE RUNNING A FEW DEGREES BELOW NORMALS THROUGH THE WEEKEND AND INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK THEN MODERATING VERY SLIGHTLY TO NEAR NORMALS FOR MID NEXT WEEK BEFORE MORE SUBSTANTIAL WARMING SPREADS EAST WITH THE UPPER RIDGE AND RAISES TEMPERATURES TO 8...POSSIBLY 10 DEGREES F ABOVE NORMAL BY LATE WEEK. NOTE HOWEVER THAT SOME OF THIS INCREASE AS COMPARED TO NORMALS IS TO TO THE FACT THAT NORMALS TEMPERATURES FALL AT ABOUT 1 DEGREE F EVERY TWO DAYS DUE TO THE INCREASINGLY SHORTER DAYS. SO...BESIDES TEMPERATURES RISING THE NORMALS WILL BE FALLING. LITTLE THREAT OF ANY PRECIPITATION THROUGH NEXT WEEK WITH THE BEST CHANCE...THOUGH STILL ONLY A SMALL ONE...TO BE DURING TUESDAY INTO TUESDAY NIGHT WHEN THERE IS THE POSSIBILITY OF SOME LIGHT RAIN OR RAIN SHOWERS AS A DISTURBANCE DROPS SOUTHEAST ACROSS THE UPPER MIDWEST INTO THE NORTHERN GREAT LAKES. OTHERWISE...ONLY A SLIGHT CHANCE OF SOME LAKE EFFECT SPRINKLES/VERY LIGHT RAIN SHOWERS NEAR LAKE MI TONIGHT. IN THE SHORT...TERM WEAK RADAR ECHOES WERE OBSERVED MOVING FROM NORTHWEST IL SOUTHEASTWARD DURING THE LATE EVENING AND EARLY DURING THE OVERNIGHT BUT THEY HAVE DISSIPATED OVER THE LAST COUPLE HOURS. MEANWHILE...AS ANTICIPATED LAST NIGHT...FORCING HAD SHIFTED SOUTH TO NORTHEAST MO AND CENTRAL IL AHEAD OF A SHORT WAVE MOVING EAST FROM EASTERN KS AND NE TO IA AND MO. THIS FORCING IS ALONG A STRONG BAROCLINIC ZONE /PER 03.00Z RAOBS 850 HPA TEMPERATURES OF +12C AND +17C AT TOP AND SGF RESPECTIVELY... WITH MPX AT 0C AND GRB -6C/ THAT EXTENDS NW-SE ACROSS IA AND IL TO THE LOWER OH VALLEY. THIS FORCING HAS RESULTED IN ELEVATED CONVECTION BREAKING OUT ACROSS CENTRAL IL SOUTH OF U.S. 136. THE SHORT WAVE IS PROGGED TO CONTINUE EASTWARD ACROSS THE MID MS VALLEY TODAY THOUGH WEAKEN AS IT DOES. WITH THE MAIN FORCING REMAINING ACROSS CENTRAL IL ONLY THE EXTREME SOUTHERN FRINGE OF THE LOCAL FORECAST AREA WILL HAVE A SLIGHT CHANCE OF A A FEW SHOWERS THIS MORNING. LOW LEVEL FLOW OVER SOUTHERN LAKE MI HAS BECOME RATER LIGHT EAST- NORTHEAST. WHILE LAKE EFFECT CLOUDS CONTINUE TO BE GENERATED BY THE COOL AIR FLOWING OVER THE RELATIVELY WARM WATER THE SHORT FETCH AND SUPPRESSED EQUILIBRIUM LEVEL WILL PREVENT ANY LAKE EFFECT SHOWERS TODAY. TONIGHT...LOW LEVEL FLOW RETURNS TO NORTH AND NORTH-NORTHEAST. THE INCREASED FETCH DOWN THE LAKE WILL ENCOURAGE ADDITIONAL LAKE EFFECT CLOUDS AND POSSIBLY SOME SHOWERS THOUGH CLOUD DEPTHS BASED ON FORECAST TEMPERATURE PROFILES OVER THE WATER TONIGHT SUGGEST THEY WOULD BE ONLY SOME SPRINKLES NEAR THE LAKE OR AT THE MOST A FEW SMALL LIGHT RAIN SHOWERS. DURING SUNDAY AND SUNDAY NIGHT A SHORT WAVE EJECTED FROM THE UPPER LOW IN THE GULF OF AK IS PROGGED TO DROP SOUTH-SOUTHEAST FROM SOUTHERN SASKATCHEWAN ACROSS THE DAKOTAS AND TO THE MID MO VALLEY. MODELS THEN TURN IT TO THE SOUTHEAST AND EAST-SOUTHEAST MONDAY AND TO THE TN VALLEY MONDAY NIGHT. THIS TRACK IS WELL REMOVED FROM THE LOCAL AREA AND ANY ASSOCIATED RAIN WILL STAY TO THE WEST THROUGH SOUTH OF THE FORECAST AREA. THE ONE CHANCE OF RAIN DURING THE NEXT SEVEN DAYS COMES ON TUESDAY INTO TUESDAY NIGHT AS A SHORT WAVE DROPS FROM MANITOBA AND WESTERN ONTARIO TO THE UPPER GREAT LAKES. BEST FORCING WITH THIS DISTURBANCE WILL BE ACROSS THE NORTH WOODS AND THE NORTHERN GREAT LAKES...WITH ONLY A SLIGHT CHANCE OF MEASURABLE RAIN AS FAR SOUTH AS NORTH CENTRAL AND NORTHEAST IL WITH JUST A SLIGHT CHANCE FURTHER S TOWARDS CENTRAL IL. TRS && .AVIATION... //ORD AND MDW CONCERNS...UPDATED 14Z... * LAKE EFFECT MVFR CIGS 2500-3000 FT PROBABLE INTO THIS AFTERNOON AND POSSIBLY PERSISTING AT TIMES INTO TONIGHT. * SMALL CHANCE FOR SPRINKLES THROUGH EARLY AFTERNOON. RATZER //DISCUSSION...UPDATED 12Z... HIGH PRESSURE REMAINS ANCHORED FROM WESTERN ONTARIO SOUTHWARD INTO EASTERN WI. THE FLOW AROUND THIS FEATURE CONTINUES AND WILL THROUGH TODAY...MEANING NORTHEAST WINDS ACROSS THE AREA. THERE MAY BE A LITTLE LAKE EMPHASIS THIS AFTERNOON THAT COULD LEAD TO A FEW KNOT INCREASE...BUT ALL IN ALL A FAIRLY PERSISTENT NORTHEAST WIND WILL PREVAIL. THE FLOW OFF THE WARM LAKE CONTINUES TO OFFER STRATOCUMULUS CLOUDS. THESE SHOULD REMAIN BROKEN OVER ORD AND DPA FOR MUCH IF NOT THE ENTIRE MORNING WITH A GRADUAL LIFTING AND POTENTIALLY SOME SCATTERING EXPECTED THIS AFTERNOON. AS FOR THE SOUTHERN CHICAGOLAND SITES OF MDW AND GYY...THE BROKEN CIGS ARE LIKELY TO BE MORE TEMPORARY...WITH MORNING MODEL TRAJECTORIES BEING MORE FROM THE EAST AS OPPOSED TO THE NORTH/NORTHEAST AND THE HEART OF THE LAKE. A COUPLE UPPER LEVEL DISTURBANCES MOVING EAST OVER THE REGION THIS MORNING ARE PRODUCING SOME SCATTERED CONVONECTION OVER CENTRAL IL. THESE SHOULD CONTINUE TO PROGRESS EAST AND REMAIN SOUTH OF THE TAF SITES...HOWEVER WITH A THICK MID- LEVEL CLOUD DECK BUILDING OVER THE REGION AND GRADUAL ASCENT WITHIN THAT LAYER...ATOP A LOWER STRATOCU CLOUD LAYER...THERE MAY BE SOME SPRINKLES IN THE AREA THROUGH EARLY AFTERNOON. TONIGHT WILL SEE NORTHEAST WINDS LIGHTEN...BUT THE FLOW OFF THE LAKE AGAIN WILL POTENTIALLY STEER BACK IN MORE LAKE EFFECT CLOUDS FOR A PERIOD INTO SUNDAY MORNING...ESPEICALLY FOR GYY AIRPORT. //ORD AND MDW CONFIDENCE...UPDATED 14Z... * HIGH CONFIDENCE IN 2500-3500 FT CIGS THROUGH THIS MORNING...WITH MEDIUM CONFIDENCE IN SCATTERING TIME. MEDIUM CONFIDENCE IN BROKEN CIGS REMAINING EAST OF THE TERMINALS TONIGHT INTO SUN MORING. * HIGH CONFIDENCE THAT ANY LIGHT SHOWERS THIS MORNING WILL KEEP VISIBILITY VFR. * HIGH CONFIDENCE IN WIND TRENDS. RATZER //OUTLOOK FOR ORD/MDW FOR 00Z MONDAY-12Z SATURDAY...UPDATED 12Z... SUNDAY NIGHT-MONDAY...VFR. TUESDAY...CHC OF -RA. MVFR POSSIBLE. WEDNESDAY-FRIDAY...VFR. MTF && .MARINE... 212 AM CDT NORTHERLY WINDS CONTINUE OVER THE LAKE...NOW GOING ON ALMOST A WEEK STRAIGHT FROM THAT DIRECTION. THE RIDGE AXIS FROM WESTERN QUEBEC TO NORTHERN IL WILL PUSH OVER THE LAKE BY LATER SUNDAY AND PERSIST INTO THE DAY MONDAY...BRINGING LIGHT WINDS. BEFORE THAT TIME...THE NORTHERLY WINDS AND WAVES WILL SLOWLY DIMINISH TODAY. WAVES OF 4 TO 5 FT WILL REMAIN POSSIBLE IN THE NEARSHORE AREAS OF IL AND IN EVEN AFTER THE SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY EXPIRATION...BUT THAT SHOULD BE ON THE UPPER END OF WAVE HEIGHTS...SO NO EXTENSION IN THE HEADLINE PLANNED AT THIS TIME. AFTER THE RIDGE AXIS PASSES...SOUTHERLY WINDS WILL RETURN OVER THE LAKE AND INCREASE ON TUESDAY AS A LOW PROGRESSES EAST ACROSS THE CANADIAN PRAIRIE PROVINCES. A COLD FRONT EXTENDING SOUTH FROM THIS WILL MOVE EAST OVER THE LAKE SOMETIME TUESDAY NIGHT OR WEDNESDAY. THIS IS NOT EXPECTED TO BE TOO POWERFUL OF A FRONT AS A STRONG LOW OFF THE EAST COAST SHOULD CAUSE THIS NORTHERN STREAM SYSTEM TO SLOW AND LIKELY WEAKEN. MTF && .LOT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... IL...NONE. IN...NONE. LM...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY...NEARSHORE WATERS UNTIL 11 AM SATURDAY. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS CHICAGO/ROMEOVILLE IL
801 AM CDT SAT NOV 3 2012 .DISCUSSION... 751 AM CDT MINOR QUICK UPDATES THIS MORNING TO ACCOUNT FOR ONGOING SHOWERS OVER AREAS ALONG AND SOUTH OF A LINE FROM PONTIAC IN ILLINOIS EAST TO FOWLER IN INDIANA. LATEST RADAR IMAGERY DEPICTING A SMALL AREA OF SHOWERS ACROSS THE FAR SOUTHERN TIER OF THE CWA OUT AHEAD OF A MID LEVEL TROUGH AXIS AND AREA OF WAA. INCREASED POPS TO ACCOUNT FOR THESE IN THE NEAR TERM...BUT WITH THESE SHOWERS TO EXIT TO THE EAST/SOUTHEAST OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL HOURS WITH MID LEVEL WINDS VEERING AND BETTER FORCING/WAA EXITING THE CWA. BEST INSTABILITY CURRENTLY RESIDES JUST SOUTH OF THE CWA WHERE RAP ANALYSIS IS SHOWING MUCAPE UP TO 250J/KG...WHERE A FEW LIGHTNING STRIKES HAVE ALSO BEEN REPORTED. PRECIP IN OUR CWA SHOULD REMAIN ONLY SHOWERS BEFORE EXITING...WITH AT MOST A FEW LIGHTNING STRIKES IF THIS WERE TO EVEN OCCUR. RODRIGUEZ && .PREV DISCUSSION... 414 AM CDT LARGE SCALE PATTERN TO REMAIN ACTIVE ACROSS THE EASTERN PACIFIC...NORTH AMERICA...AND THE WESTERN ATLANTIC OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL DAYS THOUGH MODELS DO NOT SHOW ANY MAJOR WEATHER SYSTEMS AFFECTING OUR REGION. WHILE SEVERAL DISTURBANCES HAVE MOVED AND WILL CONTINUE TO MOVE ACROSS THE CONTINENT THE OVERALL PATTERN OF AN UPPER TROUGH OVER EASTERN NORTH AMERICA AND A RIDGE OVER THE EASTERN PACIFIC AND WESTERN NORTH AMERICA HAS PERSISTED FOR SEVERAL DAYS AND LOOKS TO REMAIN BASICALLY UNCHANGED UNTIL WE APPROACH MID NEXT WEEK. BY THAT TIME A RATHER SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IN THE OVERALL UPPER PATTERN IS TO HAVE GOTTEN UNDERWAY WITH THE EASTERN NORTH AMERICAN UPPER TROUGH BEING DISPLACED OFF TO THE NORTHEAST OVER THE GULF OF ST. LAWRENCE BY AN UPPER TROUGH TO DEEPEN AS A STRONG JET MAX...THE NOSE OF WHICH WAS CURRENTLY APPROACHING VANCOUVER ISLAND...DIGS SOUTH-SOUTHEAST FROM SASKATCHEWAN AND SOUTHERN MANITOBA OVER THE UPPER AND MS VALLEY...CARVING OUT A SHARP UPPER TROUGH OVER THE OH AND TN VALLEYS AND PROGRESSING EAST TO THE CENTRAL AND SOUTHERN APPALACHIANS BY LATER TUESDAY. UPSTREAM...THIS ALLOWS A STRONG BROAD UPPER RIDGE TO ADVANCE FROM THE WEST COAST TO THE ROCKIES. DURING WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAY THE EASTERN UPPER TROUGH/LOW IS PROGGED TO LIFT NORTHEASTWARD FROM THE MID ATLANTIC COAST TO SOUTHERN NEW ENGLAND...WITH THE UPPER RIDGE MOVING EAST ACROSS THE PLAINS AS A DEEP TROUGH DEVELOPS FROM B.C. SOUTH TO THE NORTHERN CA COAST. TEMPERATURES TO CONTINUE RUNNING A FEW DEGREES BELOW NORMALS THROUGH THE WEEKEND AND INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK THEN MODERATING VERY SLIGHTLY TO NEAR NORMALS FOR MID NEXT WEEK BEFORE MORE SUBSTANTIAL WARMING SPREADS EAST WITH THE UPPER RIDGE AND RAISES TEMPERATURES TO 8...POSSIBLY 10 DEGREES F ABOVE NORMAL BY LATE WEEK. NOTE HOWEVER THAT SOME OF THIS INCREASE AS COMPARED TO NORMALS IS TO TO THE FACT THAT NORMALS TEMPERATURES FALL AT ABOUT 1 DEGREE F EVERY TWO DAYS DUE TO THE INCREASINGLY SHORTER DAYS. SO...BESIDES TEMPERATURES RISING THE NORMALS WILL BE FALLING. LITTLE THREAT OF ANY PRECIPITATION THROUGH NEXT WEEK WITH THE BEST CHANCE...THOUGH STILL ONLY A SMALL ONE...TO BE DURING TUESDAY INTO TUESDAY NIGHT WHEN THERE IS THE POSSIBILITY OF SOME LIGHT RAIN OR RAIN SHOWERS AS A DISTURBANCE DROPS SOUTHEAST ACROSS THE UPPER MIDWEST INTO THE NORTHERN GREAT LAKES. OTHERWISE...ONLY A SLIGHT CHANCE OF SOME LAKE EFFECT SPRINKLES/VERY LIGHT RAIN SHOWERS NEAR LAKE MI TONIGHT. IN THE SHORT...TERM WEAK RADAR ECHOES WERE OBSERVED MOVING FROM NORTHWEST IL SOUTHEASTWARD DURING THE LATE EVENING AND EARLY DURING THE OVERNIGHT BUT THEY HAVE DISSIPATED OVER THE LAST COUPLE HOURS. MEANWHILE...AS ANTICIPATED LAST NIGHT...FORCING HAD SHIFTED SOUTH TO NORTHEAST MO AND CENTRAL IL AHEAD OF A SHORT WAVE MOVING EAST FROM EASTERN KS AND NE TO IA AND MO. THIS FORCING IS ALONG A STRONG BAROCLINIC ZONE /PER 03.00Z RAOBS 850 HPA TEMPERATURES OF +12C AND +17C AT TOP AND SGF RESPECTIVELY... WITH MPX AT 0C AND GRB -6C/ THAT EXTENDS NW-SE ACROSS IA AND IL TO THE LOWER OH VALLEY. THIS FORCING HAS RESULTED IN ELEVATED CONVECTION BREAKING OUT ACROSS CENTRAL IL SOUTH OF U.S. 136. THE SHORT WAVE IS PROGGED TO CONTINUE EASTWARD ACROSS THE MID MS VALLEY TODAY THOUGH WEAKEN AS IT DOES. WITH THE MAIN FORCING REMAINING ACROSS CENTRAL IL ONLY THE EXTREME SOUTHERN FRINGE OF THE LOCAL FORECAST AREA WILL HAVE A SLIGHT CHANCE OF A A FEW SHOWERS THIS MORNING. LOW LEVEL FLOW OVER SOUTHERN LAKE MI HAS BECOME RATER LIGHT EAST- NORTHEAST. WHILE LAKE EFFECT CLOUDS CONTINUE TO BE GENERATED BY THE COOL AIR FLOWING OVER THE RELATIVELY WARM WATER THE SHORT FETCH AND SUPPRESSED EQUILIBRIUM LEVEL WILL PREVENT ANY LAKE EFFECT SHOWERS TODAY. TONIGHT...LOW LEVEL FLOW RETURNS TO NORTH AND NORTH-NORTHEAST. THE INCREASED FETCH DOWN THE LAKE WILL ENCOURAGE ADDITIONAL LAKE EFFECT CLOUDS AND POSSIBLY SOME SHOWERS THOUGH CLOUD DEPTHS BASED ON FORECAST TEMPERATURE PROFILES OVER THE WATER TONIGHT SUGGEST THEY WOULD BE ONLY SOME SPRINKLES NEAR THE LAKE OR AT THE MOST A FEW SMALL LIGHT RAIN SHOWERS. DURING SUNDAY AND SUNDAY NIGHT A SHORT WAVE EJECTED FROM THE UPPER LOW IN THE GULF OF AK IS PROGGED TO DROP SOUTH-SOUTHEAST FROM SOUTHERN SASKATCHEWAN ACROSS THE DAKOTAS AND TO THE MID MO VALLEY. MODELS THEN TURN IT TO THE SOUTHEAST AND EAST-SOUTHEAST MONDAY AND TO THE TN VALLEY MONDAY NIGHT. THIS TRACK IS WELL REMOVED FROM THE LOCAL AREA AND ANY ASSOCIATED RAIN WILL STAY TO THE WEST THROUGH SOUTH OF THE FORECAST AREA. THE ONE CHANCE OF RAIN DURING THE NEXT SEVEN DAYS COMES ON TUESDAY INTO TUESDAY NIGHT AS A SHORT WAVE DROPS FROM MANITOBA AND WESTERN ONTARIO TO THE UPPER GREAT LAKES. BEST FORCING WITH THIS DISTURBANCE WILL BE ACROSS THE NORTH WOODS AND THE NORTHERN GREAT LAKES...WITH ONLY A SLIGHT CHANCE OF MEASURABLE RAIN AS FAR SOUTH AS NORTH CENTRAL AND NORTHEAST IL WITH JUST A SLIGHT CHANCE FURTHER S TOWARDS CENTRAL IL. TRS && .AVIATION... //ORD AND MDW CONCERNS...UPDATED 12Z... * LAKE EFFECT MVFR CIGS PROBABLE INTO THIS AFTERNOON AND POSSIBLY PERSISTING AT TIMES INTO TONIGHT. * SMALL CHANCE FOR SPRINKLES THROUGH EARLY AFTERNOON. //DISCUSSION...UPDATED 12Z... HIGH PRESSURE REMAINS ANCHORED FROM WESTERN ONTARIO SOUTHWARD INTO EASTERN WI. THE FLOW AROUND THIS FEATURE CONTINUES AND WILL THROUGH TODAY...MEANING NORTHEAST WINDS ACROSS THE AREA. THERE MAY BE A LITTLE LAKE EMPHASIS THIS AFTERNOON THAT COULD LEAD TO A FEW KNOT INCREASE...BUT ALL IN ALL A FAIRLY PERSISTENT NORTHEAST WIND WILL PREVAIL. THE FLOW OFF THE WARM LAKE CONTINUES TO OFFER STRATOCUMULUS CLOUDS. THESE SHOULD REMAIN BROKEN OVER ORD AND DPA FOR MUCH IF NOT THE ENTIRE MORNING WITH A GRADUAL LIFTING AND POTENTIALLY SOME SCATTERING EXPECTED THIS AFTERNOON. AS FOR THE SOUTHERN CHICAGOLAND SITES OF MDW AND GYY...THE BROKEN CIGS ARE LIKELY TO BE MORE TEMPORARY...WITH MORNING MODEL TRAJECTORIES BEING MORE FROM THE EAST AS OPPOSED TO THE NORTH/NORTHEAST AND THE HEART OF THE LAKE. A COUPLE UPPER LEVEL DISTURBANCES MOVING EAST OVER THE REGION THIS MORNING ARE PRODUCING SOME SCATTERED CONVONECTION OVER CENTRAL IL. THESE SHOULD CONTINUE TO PROGRESS EAST AND REMAIN SOUTH OF THE TAF SITES...HOWEVER WITH A THICK MID- LEVEL CLOUD DECK BUILDING OVER THE REGION AND GRADUAL ASCENT WITHIN THAT LAYER...ATOP A LOWER STRATOCU CLOUD LAYER...THERE MAY BE SOME SPRINKLES IN THE AREA THROUGH EARLY AFTERNOON. TONIGHT WILL SEE NORTHEAST WINDS LIGHTEN...BUT THE FLOW OFF THE LAKE AGAIN WILL POTENTIALLY STEER BACK IN MORE LAKE EFFECT CLOUDS FOR A PERIOD INTO SUNDAY MORNING...ESPEICALLY FOR GYY AIRPORT. //ORD AND MDW CONFIDENCE...UPDATED 12Z... * HIGH CONFIDENCE IN 2500-3500 FT CIGS THROUGH THIS MORNING...WITH MEDIUM CONFIDENCE IN SCATTERING TIME. MEDIUM CONFIDENCE IN BROKEN CIGS REMAINING EAST OF THE TERMINALS TONIGHT INTO SUN MORING. * HIGH CONFIDENCE THAT ANY LIGHT SHOWERS THIS MORNING WILL KEEP VISIBILITY VFR. * HIGH CONFIDENCE IN WIND TRENDS. //OUTLOOK FOR ORD/MDW FOR 00Z MONDAY-12Z SATURDAY...UPDATED 12Z... SUNDAY NIGHT-MONDAY...VFR. TUESDAY...CHC OF -RA. MVFR POSSIBLE. WEDNESDAY-FRIDAY...VFR. MTF && .MARINE... 212 AM CDT NORTHERLY WINDS CONTINUE OVER THE LAKE...NOW GOING ON ALMOST A WEEK STRAIGHT FROM THAT DIRECTION. THE RIDGE AXIS FROM WESTERN QUEBEC TO NORTHERN IL WILL PUSH OVER THE LAKE BY LATER SUNDAY AND PERSIST INTO THE DAY MONDAY...BRINGING LIGHT WINDS. BEFORE THAT TIME...THE NORTHERLY WINDS AND WAVES WILL SLOWLY DIMINISH TODAY. WAVES OF 4 TO 5 FT WILL REMAIN POSSIBLE IN THE NEARSHORE AREAS OF IL AND IN EVEN AFTER THE SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY EXPIRATION...BUT THAT SHOULD BE ON THE UPPER END OF WAVE HEIGHTS...SO NO EXTENSION IN THE HEADLINE PLANNED AT THIS TIME. AFTER THE RIDGE AXIS PASSES...SOUTHERLY WINDS WILL RETURN OVER THE LAKE AND INCREASE ON TUESDAY AS A LOW PROGRESSES EAST ACROSS THE CANADIAN PRAIRIE PROVINCES. A COLD FRONT EXTENDING SOUTH FROM THIS WILL MOVE EAST OVER THE LAKE SOMETIME TUESDAY NIGHT OR WEDNESDAY. THIS IS NOT EXPECTED TO BE TOO POWERFUL OF A FRONT AS A STRONG LOW OFF THE EAST COAST SHOULD CAUSE THIS NORTHERN STREAM SYSTEM TO SLOW AND LIKELY WEAKEN. MTF && .LOT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... IL...NONE. IN...NONE. LM...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY...NEARSHORE WATERS UNTIL 11 AM SATURDAY. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS QUAD CITIES IA IL
656 AM CDT SAT NOV 3 2012 .UPDATE... THE WAA THAT PRODUCED THE EARLIER SPRINKLES WITH POSSIBLY A COUPLE OF SHRA IN THE FAR SOUTH HAS SHIFTED INTO CENTRAL/EASTERN ILLINOIS. RADAR IS SHOWING PROBABLE VIRGA/MID CLOUDS ACROSS NORTHEAST IOWA AND INTO SOUTHERN WISCONSIN. CONDENSATION PRESSURE DEFICITS REMAIN HIGH PER RAP TRENDS WITH VERY WEAK FORCING AND FCST SOUNDINGS HAVE PLENTY OF DRY AIR BELOW THE CLOUDS. THE WARM START THIS MORNING WILL BE OFFSET BY THE LARGE AMOUNT OF MID LEVEL CLOUDS. MAX TEMPS HAVE BEEN LOWERED SLIGHTLY WITH THE IDEA THAT TEMPERATURES WILL BE SIMILAR TO YESTERDAY. LATE TONIGHT THE 06Z MODELS CONTINUE TO SHOW A LOWERING OF THE 850-700MB CONDENSATION PRESSURE DEFICITS WITH SOME WEAK CONVERGENCE FROM THE APPROACHING SHORTWAVE. HOWEVER...THE THETA E GRADIENT REMAINS VERY DIFFUSE. IF ANY PRECIPITATION MAKES IT INTO THE CWFA IT WOULD BE VERY LATE TONIGHT AND WOULD LIKELY BE IN THE FORM OF DECAYING SPRINKLES THAT MAY OR MAY NOT LINGER INTO SUNDAY MORNING. ..08.. && .AVIATION... VFR WX WILL BE SEEN THROUGH 12Z/04. LOW PRESSURE WILL PASS THROUGH SOUTHERN ILLINOIS TAKING ANY PRECIPITATION THREAT WITH IT. AN APPROACHING WEAK DISTURBANCE AFT 06Z/04 MIGHT RESULT IN SOME SPRINKLES AROUND SUNRISE SUNDAY AT KCID. ..08.. && .PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 319 AM CDT SAT NOV 3 2012/ SYNOPSIS... 06Z SFC ANALYSIS HAS A WEAK LOW NEAR KJLN AND ANOTHER NEAR KSPS. DISCONTINUOUS FRONTS CONNECTED THE LOWS. WEAK INVERTED TROFS EXTENDED FROM THE KJLN LOW INTO NORTHEAST MISSOURI AND INTO WESTERN IOWA. DEW POINTS WERE IN THE 40S AND 50S FROM THE SOUTHERN PLAINS INTO THE LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY WITH 20S AND 30S OVER MUCH OF THE MIDWEST. RADAR SHOWED CONVECTION JUST SOUTH OF THE CWFA WITH SPRINKLES INTO THE FAR SOUTHERN PARTS OF THE CWFA. SHORT TERM...TODAY AND TONIGHT... BASED ON CURRENT RADAR AND RAP TRENDS...THE SPRINKLES ACROSS THE FAR SOUTHERN CWFA SHOULD EXIT THE AREA BY SUNRISE AS THE LLJ AND THETA E GRADIENT SHIFT EAST OF THE CWFA. IT APPEARS THAT A LONE SHRA RAN ALONG THE SOUTHERN CWFA BORDER WITH HANCOCK AND MCDONOUGH COUNTIES. ALTHOUGH IT WILL TAKE TIME...THE MID LEVEL CLOUDS SHOULD SLOWLY EXIT THE CWFA DURING THE MORNING HOURS ALLOWING FILTERED SUN TO BE SEEN DURING THE DAY. MAX TEMPERATURES SHOULD BE SIMILAR TO OR JUST A BIT WARMER THAN YESTERDAY GIVEN THE WARMER START. QUIET AND DRY CONDITIONS WILL BE SEEN THIS EVENING AS AN UPPER LEVEL DISTURBANCE DROPS SOUTHEAST TOWARD THE AREA. AFTER MIDNIGHT THIS DISTURBANCE MOVES THROUGH THE CWFA WITH 850-700MB CONDENSATION PRESSURE DEFICITS LOWERING BUT THE 1000-850MB CONDENSATION PRESSURE DEFICITS REMAIN HIGH. THERE SHOULD AGAIN BE A MID LEVEL CLOUD DECK MOVING INTO THE AREA. THE THETA E GRADIENT ASSOCIATED WITH THE DISTURBANCE IS WEAK AND VERY DIFFUSE AND THE OVERALL FORCING IS EITHER NOT THERE OR VERY WEAK. SPRINKLES LOOK QUESTIONABLE SO HAVE OPTED TO GO DRY AFTER MIDNIGHT. 08 LONG TERM...SUNDAY THROUGH NEXT FRIDAY... BELOW NORMAL TEMPS THROUGH MID-WEEK WITH NORTHWEST FLOW ALOFT BEFORE WARMING TREND LATE WEEK WITH ABOVE NORMAL TEMPS BY NEXT WEEKEND IN TRANSITION TO SOUTHWESTERLY FLOW PATTERN. COUPLE OF BOUTS OF MAINLY LIGHT RAIN DURING THE PERIOD. THE FIRST IS EXPECTED TO BRUSH S/W CWA LATE SUN NGT THROUGH MON... AS CLIPPER SYSTEM IS SHUTTLED DOWN IN NORTHWEST FLOW ALONG LOW-MID LEVEL BAROCLINIC ZONE. WBZ HEIGHTS 3500-4500 FT AGL SUPPORTS ALL LIQUID PTYPE AT SFC DESPITE WHAT MODEL SNOW ACCUMULATION ALGORITHMS DEPICT. THE SECOND BOUT OF LIGHT RAIN EXPECTED TUE WITH NEXT CLIPPER SYSTEM AND ATTENDANT WARM ADVECTION WING. AMOUNTS WITH BOTH SYSTEMS TO BE VERY LIGHT AND MOSTLY TRACE TO AROUND 0.1 INCH. MAINLY DRY MID TO LATE WEEK WITH MODERATING TEMPS AS RIDGING BUILDS ALOFT. PATTERN LOOKS FAVORABLE FOR MODERATE TO LOCALLY HEAVY RAIN EVENT SOMETIME NEXT WEEKEND OR POSSIBLY JUST BEYOND... WITH FAVORABLE HIGH OVER THE MID ATLANTIC AND RESULTANT SOUTHERLY FLOW ON BACKSIDE PUMPING GULF MOISTURE NORTHWARD WELL IN ADVANCE OF EJECTING SOUTHWEST CONUS TROUGH. TEMPS ABOVE TO POSSIBLY MUCH ABOVE NORMAL FRI THROUGH NEXT WEEKEND. 05 && .DVN WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... IA...NONE. IL...NONE. MO...NONE. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS GRAND RAPIDS MI
1141 AM EDT SAT NOV 3 2012 .SYNOPSIS... ISSUED AT 326 AM EDT SAT NOV 3 2012 HIGH PRESSURE OVER ONTARIO WILL KEEP THINGS DRY AROUND THE GREAT LAKES INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK. TEMPERATURES WILL REMAIN ON THE COOL SIDE WITH HIGHS IN THE MID 40S. A COLD FRONT TUESDAY NIGHT MAY BRING SHOWERS TO THE AREA. && .UPDATE... ISSUED AT 1141 AM EDT SAT NOV 3 2012 UPDATED TO GO WITH MORE IN THE WAY OF CLOUDS THIS AFTERNOON. KAPX AND KDTX MORNING SOUNDINGS SHOW A SUBSIDENCE INVERSION WITH MOISTURE TRAPPED BENEATH IT. THE FLOW IS NORTHERLY...WHICH IS KEEPING THE BULK OF THE LAKE MICHIGAN AND LAKE HURON CLOUDS TO THE WEST AND EAST OF THE AREA. THE ISSUE THOUGH IS THAT MOISTURE HAS STREAMED SOUTH OFF OF SUPERIOR AND THE VERY NORTHERN PORTIONS OF MICHIGAN AND HURON. THIS MOISTURE IS BEING TRAPPED BENEATH THE INVERSION AND NOT ERODING MUCH. IN FACT THERE HAS BEEN A DIURNAL EXPANSION ON THE EDGES. SO...MOSTLY CLOUDY SHOULD COVER THINGS THROUGH THE AFTERNOON. TEMPERATURES WILL ONLY SLOWLY NOSE INTO THE LOWER 40S FOR HIGHS. UPSTREAM RADARS INDICATE LIGHT PRECIPITATION/VIRGA OVER WISCONSIN. VERY FEW IF ANY OB SITES ARE REPORTING PRECIP AT GROUND LEVEL THOUGH. MADISON DID REPORT A FEW FLURRIES AN HOUR AGO. FEEL THAT THE MID LEVELS ARE A BIT TOO DRY TO BRING PRECIP IN SO KEPT THE FORECAST DRY FOR THE AFTERNOON. THE DRY FORECAST IS SUPPORTED BY THE 00Z NSSL WRF. THE HRRR DOES SHOW SOME REFLECTIVITY OVER THE CWA LATE THIS AFTERNOON...BUT THINKING MOST IF NOT ALL OF THIS WILL BE VIRGA. && .SHORT TERM...(TODAY THROUGH MONDAY) ISSUED AT 326 AM EDT SAT NOV 3 2012 FORECAST CONCERNS ARE MINIMAL THIS MORNING AS HIGH PRESSURE OVER ONTARIO WILL RESULT IN DRY WX THROUGH THE SHORT TERM. THE GOING FORECAST LOOKS PRETTY GOOD AND WE ONLY TWEAKED THE GRIDS A LITTLE. LATEST IR LOOP SHOWS QUITE A BIT OF CLOUDS OVER NRN LWR AS WELL AS NW OF THE CWA ACROSS THE LAKE AND WISCONSIN WITH MORE CLOUDS MOVING INTO THE AREA. A SHORT WAVE IS MOVING THROUGH THE REGION AND WILL LIKELY RESULT IN SOME CLOUDS BUT NOT MUCH MORE AS THE LOWER ATM IS QUITE DRY. A FEW FLURRIES ARE BEING REPORTED ACROSS THE FAR NRN CWA WHERE CLOUDS ARE A BIT MORE PREVALENT. GIVEN THAT FLOW WILL BE OFF THE LAKE FOR A FEW MORE HOURS WE ADDED SOME FLURRIES/SPRINKLES TO THE FAR NW THIS MORNING. BY LATE MORNING BOUNDARY LAYER WINDS WILL VEER TO THE NNE AND THE LAKE INFLUENCE WILL END. FAIR SKIES EXPECTED TONIGHT INTO MONDAY. TEMPS WILL FALL INTO THE MID 20S TONIGHT AND SUNDAY NIGHT. .LONG TERM...(MONDAY NIGHT THROUGH FRIDAY) ISSUED AT 326 AM EDT SAT NOV 3 2012 THE LONG TERM PORTION OF THE FORECAST LOOKS PRETTY QUIET WITH GRADUALLY MODERATING TEMPERATURES AND PREDOMINATELY DRY WEATHER. THE COLD FRONT/SHORTWAVE FOR TUESDAY INTO WEDNESDAY DOES NOT LOOK VERY IMPRESSIVE AT ALL... WITH THE LATEST GUIDANCE NOW STRUGGLING TO EVEN SQUEEZE OUT QPF. THE MAIN ATTENTION GRABBER IS THE EXPECTED WARM UP LATE IN THE WEEK AND NEXT WEEKEND. MODELS HAVE BEEN CONSISTENTLY SHOWING A DEEP LONGWAVE TROUGH DEVELOPING OVER THE WRN UNITED STATES... WITH A BUILDING UPR RIDGE DOWNSTREAM EAST OF THE ROCKIES. H8 TEMPS OF 7 TO 10C ARE PROGGED TO PUSH INTO THE REGION NEXT FRIDAY... WITH EVEN WARMER AIR EXPECTED FOR NEXT WEEKEND. && .AVIATION...(FOR THE 12Z TAFS THROUGH 12Z SUNDAY MORNING) ISSUED AT 749 AM EDT SAT NOV 3 2012 NUMEROUS MVFR CIGS WERE NOTED OVER WRN AND NRN LWR MI EARLY THIS MORNING. THESE CLOUDS ARE EXPECTED TO BECOME SCATTERED BY NOON LEAVING PREDOMINATELY VFR CONDITIONS FOR THE REST OF TODAY AND TONIGHT. SOME CLOUDS WITH BASES AOA 12K FT WILL ALSO IMPACT THE REGION LATER TODAY AND TONIGHT. && .MARINE... ISSUED AT 326 AM EDT SAT NOV 3 2012 CANCELED THE SCA EARLIER THIS MORNING DUE TO DIMINISHING WINDS AND LOWER WAVES. WINDS/WAVES WILL REMAIN BELOW SCA CRITERIA THIS WEEKEND. && .HYDROLOGY... ISSUED AT 326 AM EDT SAT NOV 3 2012 NO ISSUES THIS MORNING. DRY WX EXPECTED THROUGH MONDAY. LIGHT RAIN IS POSSIBLE TUESDAY NIGHT AHEAD OF THE NEXT FRONTAL BOUNDARY. && .GRR WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... MI...NONE. LM...NONE. && $$ UPDATE...DUKE SYNOPSIS...93 SHORT TERM...93 LONG TERM...MEADE AVIATION...MEADE HYDROLOGY...93 MARINE...93
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION FOR SOUTHEAST SD/SOUTHWEST MN/NORTHWEST IA
NWS SIOUX FALLS SD
905 AM CDT SAT NOV 3 2012 .DISCUSSION....../ISSUED AT 905 AM CDT/ QUITE A BIT OF CLOUDS STREAMING SOUTHEAST ACROSS THE CWA THIS MORNING...AND SHOULD REMAIN A MOSTLY CLOUDY DAY MOST PLACES. A LITTLE MORE SUN MAY BE FOUND ACROSS THE FAR SOUTH NEAR THE MISSOURI RIVER. CLOUD COVER WILL AFFECT HIGH TEMPERATURES...WITH MOST PLACES SEEING HIGHS IN THE LOWER TO MID 40S. DID BUMP UP CLOUD COVER IN GRIDS FOR THE REST OF TODAY. && .AVIATION.../FOR THE 12Z TAFS/ STRATUS EXPECTED TO PERSIST MUCH OF THE DAY TODAY...ESPECIALLY IN AREAS NORTH OF INTERSTATE 90 WHERE MVFR RANGE CEILINGS ALSO MORE LIKELY. THIS INCLUDES KHON TAF LOCATION WHERE MVFR CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED THROUGH MIDDAY BEFORE LOWEST OF CLOUDS START TO BREAK UP A BIT AND SHIFT EAST. MVFR CONDITIONS MAY NOT COMPLETELY CLEAR OUT OF NORTHEAST 1/3 OF THE CWA THIS AFTERNOON...BUT EVEN IF THEY DO EXPECT ADDITIONAL MVFR CEILINGS TO DROP BACK INTO SOUTHWEST MN/LOCATIONS NORTHEAST OF KBKX-KSPW LINE AFTER 04/00Z. AT THIS TIME EXPECT MVFR CEILINGS TO REMAIN NORTH OF KFSD AND WILL KEEP TAF VFR FOR NOW. HOWEVER WILL BE CLOSE AND WILL HAVE TO WATCH FOR POSSIBLE BROKEN MVFR CEILINGS 14Z-19Z TIME FRAME TODAY. && .DISCUSSION.../ISSUED AT 325 AM CDT/ MULTIPLE CLOUD LAYERS FROM SC TO AC WILL BE PASSING OVER MOST OF THE FORECAST AREA TODAY WITH ONLY THE FAR SOUTHWEST CORNER HAVING HOPE FOR SOME DECENT SUNSHINE. SOME OF THE LOWER DECKS MAY TEND TO BREAK UP LATER IN THE DAY BUT HIGHER AC SEEN ON LATEST IMAGERY IS PINNED BY MODELS TO PASS OVER OUR SOUTHERN AREA. MEANWHILE...RUC INDICATED SOME LIFT WITH THE CURRENT MID DECK WHICH SEEMS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE FEW SPRINKLES MOVING ACROSS OUR NORTH. GOING BY RUC AND OTHER MODELS LACK OF LIFT DURING THE DAY...WILL NOT EXTEND THOSE SPRINKLES PAST 12Z/7 AM CDT RIGHT NOW. ALL THE CLOUDS WILL HAVE THE EXPECTED DAMPENING OF HIGH TEMPERATURES WHICH SHOULD AGAIN BE LOWER THAN GUIDANCE. NOT A BAD DAY THOUGH WITH WINDS LIKELY HOLDING TO LESS THAN 10 MPH. PERHAPS LATE IN THE DAY OR THIS EVENING SKIES OVERALL WILL PARTIALLY CLEAR OVER THE SOUTHWEST HALF OF OUR FORECAST AREA. WILL KEEP A SLIGHT CHANCE OF LIGHT RAIN OR SNOW NORTHEAST CORNER FOR THIS EVENING AS THE GFS DEPICTION OF MID LEVEL MOISTURE AND A LITTLE LIFT FITS OUR EARLIER FORECAST OF THIS. THE DECREASE IN CLOUDS MAY EXTEND INTO OUR EASTERN/NORTHEASTERN AREA EARLY SUNDAY EVEN AS CLOUDS FROM DIGGING UPPER WAVE START TO INCREASE AGAIN FROM THE WEST. NAM IS THE OBVIOUS OUTLIER ON THE BEHAVIOR OF THIS SYSTEM AND WILL GO FOR THE DIGGING NATURE OF SYSTEM INDICATED BY THE GFS...EC...AND EVEN THE PLACID CANADIAN. THIS MEANS KEEPING THE THREAT OF RAIN INCREASING FROM THE WEST SUNDAY AFTERNOON...AND KEEPING LIKELY RAIN THREAT OVER MUCH OF THE AREA SUNDAY NIGHT. WILL KEEP A VERY MINIMAL MENTION OF A LITTLE WET SNOW POSSIBLY MIXED IN NEAR/WEST OF THE JAMES VALLEY LATE SUNDAY NIGHT BUT NO ACCUMULATION. ASSUMING MOST MODELS HAVE THE DIGGING NATURE OF THE SYSTEM PEGGED...EXPECT A LITTLE LINGERING LIGHT RAIN CHANCE MONDAY DECREASING TO THE EAST. CLOUDS SHOULD THEN DECREASE MONDAY NIGHT WITH DECENT UPPER RIDGING AS SYSTEM MOVES SOUTHEAST AWAY FROM AREA. THE TUESDAY THROUGH FRIDAY EXTENDED PERIOD LOOKS DRY AND MILD. NOT REAL WARM AS RIDGING DOES NOT SEEM TO GET STRONG ENOUGH FAR ENOUGH NORTH TO BRING THE WARM AIR INTO SD...THOUGH IT IS POSSIBLE THAT OUR FORECAST OF 50S MAY NOT BE WARM ENOUGH LATE IN THE WEEK DEPENDING ON HOW STRING THE RIDGING TURNS OUT TO BE AHEAD OF MAJOR TROF APPROACHING FROM THE WEST NEXT WEEKEND. && .FSD WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... SD...NONE. MN...NONE. IA...NONE. NE...NONE. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION FOR SOUTHEAST SD/SOUTHWEST MN/NORTHWEST IA
NWS SIOUX FALLS SD
640 AM CDT SAT NOV 3 2012 .DISCUSSION.../ISSUED AT 325 AM CDT/ MULTIPLE CLOUD LAYERS FROM SC TO AC WILL BE PASSING OVER MOST OF THE FORECAST AREA TODAY WITH ONLY THE FAR SOUTHWEST CORNER HAVING HOPE FOR SOME DECENT SUNSHINE. SOME OF THE LOWER DECKS MAY TEND TO BREAK UP LATER IN THE DAY BUT HIGHER AC SEEN ON LATEST IMAGERY IS PINNED BY MODELS TO PASS OVER OUR SOUTHERN AREA. MEANWHILE...RUC INDICATED SOME LIFT WITH THE CURRENT MID DECK WHICH SEEMS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE FEW SPRINKLES MOVING ACROSS OUR NORTH. GOING BY RUC AND OTHER MODELS LACK OF LIFT DURING THE DAY...WILL NOT EXTEND THOSE SPRINKLES PAST 12Z/7 AM CDT RIGHT NOW. ALL THE CLOUDS WILL HAVE THE EXPECTED DAMPENING OF HIGH TEMPERATURES WHICH SHOULD AGAIN BE LOWER THAN GUIDANCE. NOT A BAD DAY THOUGH WITH WINDS LIKELY HOLDING TO LESS THAN 10 MPH. PERHAPS LATE IN THE DAY OR THIS EVENING SKIES OVERALL WILL PARTIALLY CLEAR OVER THE SOUTHWEST HALF OF OUR FORECAST AREA. WILL KEEP A SLIGHT CHANCE OF LIGHT RAIN OR SNOW NORTHEAST CORNER FOR THIS EVENING AS THE GFS DEPICTION OF MID LEVEL MOISTURE AND A LITTLE LIFT FITS OUR EARLIER FORECAST OF THIS. THE DECREASE IN CLOUDS MAY EXTEND INTO OUR EASTERN/NORTHEASTERN AREA EARLY SUNDAY EVEN AS CLOUDS FROM DIGGING UPPER WAVE START TO INCREASE AGAIN FROM THE WEST. NAM IS THE OBVIOUS OUTLIER ON THE BEHAVIOR OF THIS SYSTEM AND WILL GO FOR THE DIGGING NATURE OF SYSTEM INDICATED BY THE GFS...EC...AND EVEN THE PLACID CANADIAN. THIS MEANS KEEPING THE THREAT OF RAIN INCREASING FROM THE WEST SUNDAY AFTERNOON...AND KEEPING LIKELY RAIN THREAT OVER MUCH OF THE AREA SUNDAY NIGHT. WILL KEEP A VERY MINIMAL MENTION OF A LITTLE WET SNOW POSSIBLY MIXED IN NEAR/WEST OF THE JAMES VALLEY LATE SUNDAY NIGHT BUT NO ACCUMULATION. ASSUMING MOST MODELS HAVE THE DIGGING NATURE OF THE SYSTEM PEGGED...EXPECT A LITTLE LINGERING LIGHT RAIN CHANCE MONDAY DECREASING TO THE EAST. CLOUDS SHOULD THEN DECREASE MONDAY NIGHT WITH DECENT UPPER RIDGING AS SYSTEM MOVES SOUTHEAST AWAY FROM AREA. THE TUESDAY THROUGH FRIDAY EXTENDED PERIOD LOOKS DRY AND MILD. NOT REAL WARM AS RIDGING DOES NOT SEEM TO GET STRONG ENOUGH FAR ENOUGH NORTH TO BRING THE WARM AIR INTO SD...THOUGH IT IS POSSIBLE THAT OUR FORECAST OF 50S MAY NOT BE WARM ENOUGH LATE IN THE WEEK DEPENDING ON HOW STRING THE RIDGING TURNS OUT TO BE AHEAD OF MAJOR TROF APPROACHING FROM THE WEST NEXT WEEKEND. && .AVIATION.../FOR THE 12Z TAFS/ STRATUS EXPECTED TO PERSIST MUCH OF THE DAY TODAY...ESPECIALLY IN AREAS NORTH OF INTERSTATE 90 WHERE MVFR RANGE CEILINGS ALSO MORE LIKELY. THIS INCLUDES KHON TAF LOCATION WHERE MVFR CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED THROUGH MIDDAY BEFORE LOWEST OF CLOUDS START TO BREAK UP A BIT AND SHIFT EAST. MVFR CONDITIONS MAY NOT COMPLETELY CLEAR OUT OF NORTHEAST 1/3 OF THE CWA THIS AFTERNOON...BUT EVEN IF THEY DO EXPECT ADDITIONAL MVFR CEILINGS TO DROP BACK INTO SOUTHWEST MN/LOCATIONS NORTHEAST OF KBKX-KSPW LINE AFTER 04/00Z. AT THIS TIME EXPECT MVFR CEILINGS TO REMAIN NORTH OF KFSD AND WILL KEEP TAF VFR FOR NOW. HOWEVER WILL BE CLOSE AND WILL HAVE TO WATCH FOR POSSIBLE BROKEN MVFR CEILINGS 14Z-19Z TIME FRAME TODAY. && .FSD WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... SD...NONE. MN...NONE. IA...NONE. NE...NONE. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS TUCSON AZ
930 AM MST SAT NOV 3 2012 .SYNOPSIS...DRY AND WARMER TO START THE NEW WEEK...WITH NEAR RECORD HIGHS POSSIBLE AROUND TUESDAY. THE PATTERN WILL CHANGE BY THE END OF THE WEEK WITH A PACIFIC STORM SYSTEM BRINGING MUCH COOLER TEMPERATURES...GUSTY WINDS AND A CHANCE OF SHOWERS TO THE REGION. && .DISCUSSION...WEAK TROUGH PHASING INTO NEW MEXICO THIS MORNING. INTERESTING MOISTURE INCREASE NEAR H7 ON THE 12Z KTWC SOUNDING. LARGE PICTURE NOT REALLY MUCH MOISTURE AND DYNAMICS WITH THE IMPULSE...BUT EXPECT SOME CLOUD ENHANCEMENT LATER TODAY AND VIRGA OR EVEN A FEW SPRINKLES NOT OUT OF THE QUESTION IN EASTERN AREAS (HINTED AT BY BOTH 14Z HRRR AND 12Z U OF AZ WRF-NAM). STRONG RIDGE BUILDING IN FROM THE EASTERN PACIFIC OVER THE NEXT 72 HOURS. MIGHT EVEN COME CLOSE TO NEAR RECORD AFTERNOON HIGHS IN A FEW SPOTS TUESDAY OR SO. PATTERN CHANGE FOR THE END OF THE WEEK CONTINUES TO SHAPE UP NICELY. REASONABLE TRENDS ON 00Z ECMWF AND 06Z GFS WITH 12Z GFS NOT QUITE AS DEEP. FOR OUR NECK OF THE WOODS WE COULD SEE SOME LIGHT PRECIP AHEAD OF THE MAIN SYSTEM AS EARLY AS THURSDAY NIGHT WITH THE MAIN TROUGH IMPACT OVER NEXT WEEKEND. A CHANCE OF SHOWERS WITH THE FIRST HIGHER ELEVATION SNOW OF THE SEASON POSSIBLE...BUT STRONG GUSTY WINDS AND MUCH COOLER TEMPERATURES WILL PROBABLY BE THE MAIN STORY. && .AVIATION...KTUS VICINITY EWD FEW-BKN CLOUDS AT 8-12K FT AGL TODAY THEN SKC-SCT CLOUDS ABOVE 20K FT AGL THIS EVENING INTO SUNDAY MORNING. WEST AND NORTHWEST OF KTUS SKC-SCT CLOUDS ABOVE 20K FT AGL THRU 04/15Z. SURFACE WIND GENERALLY LESS THAN 10 KTS THRU EARLY SUNDAY MORNING OR 04/15Z. AVIATION DISCUSSION NOT UPDATED FOR TAF AMENDMENTS. && .FIRE WEATHER...DRY CONDITIONS WILL PREVAIL THROUGH THURSDAY. THERE MAY BE A FEW SHOWERS ACROSS THE HIGHER TERRAIN FRIDAY. STRONG WARMING EARLY IN THE NEW WEEK. A COOLING TREND WILL THEN OCCUR LATE NEXT WEEK AS A LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM DEVELOPS OVER THE AREA. MINIMUM DAYTIME RELATIVE HUMIDITIES WILL GENERALLY BE IN THE UPPER SINGLE DIGITS TO THE TEENS. EXPECT NORMAL DIURNAL WIND TRENDS THROUGH MIDWEEK...WITH OCCASIONAL GUSTS DURING THE AFTERNOON HOURS. THEREAFTER...BREEZY TO WINDY CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED BY FRIDAY AS THE LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM DEEPENS OVER THE AREA. && .TWC WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...NONE. && $$ VISIT US ON FACEBOOK...TWITTER...YOUTUBE...AND AT WEATHER.GOV/TUCSON MEYER/RASMUSSEN
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS PEACHTREE CITY GA
144 PM EDT SAT NOV 3 2012 .PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 1052 AM EDT SAT NOV 3 2012/ UPDATE... SO SIGNIFICANT CHANGES PLANNED TO THE FORECAST AT THIS TIME. HAVE MADE SOME UPDATES TO ACCOUNT FOR TEMP/DEWPOINT TRENDS...TEMPS RUNNING A LITTLE BELOW FORECAST BUT WITH FULL SUN THEY SHOULD CATCH UP NICELY SO OVERALL NO CHANGES WORTH ISSUING NEW PRODUCTS OVER. NEW HRRR AND THE 00Z FFCWRF KEEP CONVECTION COMPLETELY OUT OF THE AREA UNTIL AFTER 06Z...AND PRETTY ANEMIC AT THAT...SO CURRENT POPS HANDLE THAT WELL AT THIS TIME. WILL REEVALUATE IF NECESSARY WITH THE AFTERNOON PACKAGE. TDP PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 747 AM EDT SAT NOV 3 2012/ PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 425 AM EDT SAT NOV 3 2012/ SHORT TERM /TODAY THROUGH SUNDAY NIGHT/... NORTHWEST FLOW PATTERN AND LONG WAVE TROUGH WILL DOMINATE MUCH OF ERN CONUS THROUGH AT LEAST WED. FIRST OF TWO SHORT WAVES...THE FIRST BEING SIGNIFICANTLY WEAKER...WILL MOVE SE INTO THE MID MS VALLEY SUNDAY WITH WEAK TO MDT WAA ACROSS THE MID SOUTH THROUGH NRN GA AND THE MID ATLANTIC. NOT ENOUGH COMBINED LIFT TO GENERATE MUCH MORE THEN SCT LIGHT SHRA. WITH FAIRLY WARM TEMPS AND WEAK MOISTURE ADVECTION...INSTABILITY WILL BECOME AN ISSUE. 00Z MODELS...ESP 00Z NAM DEVELOPS SOME ELEVATED INSTABILITY TONIGHT...AND EVEN SFC BASED INSTABILITY SUNDAY AFTERNOON...WITH 1000 J/KG AROUND 18-21Z. DUE TO UNCERTAINTY ABOUT MOISTURE RETURN...HIGH MOISTURE BIAS IN NAM AND LACK OF MODEL CONSENSUS...HAVE NOT INCLUDED TSRA IN FCST FOR TONIGHT. DID ADD TSRA FOR SUNDAY AFTERNOON WITH GOOD MODEL CONSENSUS AND FAIRLY WARM TEMPERATURES. DO NOT EXPECT ANY SVR STORMS ATTM AS LARGE SCALE ASCENT....LACK OF STRONG SFC FORCING AND SOMEWHAT WEAK VERTICAL WIND SHEAR FOR THIS TIME OF YEAR WILL NOT BE AT FAVORABLE LEVELS. WEAK FRONT ASSOCIATED WITH WAVE SHOULD PUSH OUT OF CWA BY LATE SUN NIGHT...SO HAVE PUSHED OUT POPS FAIRLY QUICKLY BEHIND FRONT. USED BIAS-CORRECTED MAV/MET BLEND FOR TODAY/TONIGHT AND MAV/MET BLEND WITH HIGHER WEIGHT TOWARD MAV FOR SUN AND SUN NIGHT. SNELSON LONG TERM /MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY/... EXTENDED MODELS CONTINUE IN GOOD AGREEMENT THROUGH THE WORK WEEK. SHORT WAVE SWINGS OUT OF THE PLAINS MONDAY AFTERNOON INTO THE SOUTHEAST TUESDAY AND INTENSIFIES AS IT LIFTS INTO THE NORTHEAST. FOR THE FORECAST AREA...BOTH MODELS DEVELOP A SURFACE LOW OVER THE NORTHERN GULF OF MEXICO THAT TRACKS OVER SOUTH GEORGIA THROUGH THE DAY. THE TRACK WILL KEEP BEST RAIN CHANCES OVER SOUTH GEORGIA AND BEST INSTABILITY REMAINS OVER FLORIDA. WILL CONTINUE SHOWERS...WITH GOOD CLOUD COVER. NORTHWEST FLOW ALOFT WITH NORTHERLY FLOW AT THE SURFACE WILL BRING ANOTHER COLD SHOT TO THE AREA BY MIDWEEK WITH TEMPERATURES 5 TO 10 DEGREES BELOW NORMALS FOR THIS TIME OF YEAR... BEFORE MODERATING TO NEAR NORMAL BY WEEKS END. ATWELL && .AVIATION... 18Z UPDATE... VFR CONDITIONS WILL CONTINUE THROUGH THE PERIOD EVERYWHERE BUT MCN WHERE MVFR FOG IS EXPECTED FOR A FEW HOURS STARTING AROUND 12Z. SW WINDS TODAY...5-10KT AT ATL AND BELOW 5KT ELSEWHERE...WILL PICK UP ON SUNDAY TO CLOSER TO 10KT AND TURN MORE WESTERLY AHEAD OF A FRONT. ONLY SLIGHT CHANCE SHRA AT MOST SITES THROUGH ABOUT 18Z BUT PROB30 WILL LIKELY BE NEEDED FOR MCN AND CSG THEREAFTER. //ATL CONFIDENCE...18Z UPDATE... HIGH ON ALL ELEMENTS. TDP && .PRELIMINARY POINT TEMPS/POPS... ATHENS 74 53 73 48 / 0 10 20 20 ATLANTA 76 58 72 49 / 0 20 20 20 BLAIRSVILLE 71 50 62 41 / 0 20 30 10 CARTERSVILLE 76 54 68 43 / 0 20 20 10 COLUMBUS 82 59 79 52 / 0 10 30 20 GAINESVILLE 73 55 69 47 / 0 20 20 20 MACON 80 53 80 51 / 0 10 30 20 ROME 77 52 67 41 / 0 20 30 10 PEACHTREE CITY 78 51 73 44 / 0 10 20 20 VIDALIA 78 57 81 55 / 0 10 30 30 && .FFC WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... NONE. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS CHICAGO/ROMEOVILLE IL
249 PM CDT SAT NOV 3 2012 .DISCUSSION... 751 AM CDT MINOR QUICK UPDATES THIS MORNING TO ACCOUNT FOR ONGOING SHOWERS OVER AREAS ALONG AND SOUTH OF A LINE FROM PONTIAC IN ILLINOIS EAST TO FOWLER IN INDIANA. LATEST RADAR IMAGERY DEPICTING A SMALL AREA OF SHOWERS ACROSS THE FAR SOUTHERN TIER OF THE CWA OUT AHEAD OF A MID LEVEL TROUGH AXIS AND AREA OF WAA. INCREASED POPS TO ACCOUNT FOR THESE IN THE NEAR TERM...BUT WITH THESE SHOWERS TO EXIT TO THE EAST/SOUTHEAST OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL HOURS WITH MID LEVEL WINDS VEERING AND BETTER FORCING/WAA EXITING THE CWA. BEST INSTABILITY CURRENTLY RESIDES JUST SOUTH OF THE CWA WHERE RAP ANALYSIS IS SHOWING MUCAPE UP TO 250J/KG...WHERE A FEW LIGHTNING STRIKES HAVE ALSO BEEN REPORTED. PRECIP IN OUR CWA SHOULD REMAIN ONLY SHOWERS BEFORE EXITING...WITH AT MOST A FEW LIGHTNING STRIKES IF THIS WERE TO EVEN OCCUR. RODRIGUEZ //PREV DISCUSSION... 414 AM CDT LARGE SCALE PATTERN TO REMAIN ACTIVE ACROSS THE EASTERN PACIFIC...NORTH AMERICA...AND THE WESTERN ATLANTIC OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL DAYS THOUGH MODELS DO NOT SHOW ANY MAJOR WEATHER SYSTEMS AFFECTING OUR REGION. WHILE SEVERAL DISTURBANCES HAVE MOVED AND WILL CONTINUE TO MOVE ACROSS THE CONTINENT THE OVERALL PATTERN OF AN UPPER TROUGH OVER EASTERN NORTH AMERICA AND A RIDGE OVER THE EASTERN PACIFIC AND WESTERN NORTH AMERICA HAS PERSISTED FOR SEVERAL DAYS AND LOOKS TO REMAIN BASICALLY UNCHANGED UNTIL WE APPROACH MID NEXT WEEK. BY THAT TIME A RATHER SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IN THE OVERALL UPPER PATTERN IS TO HAVE GOTTEN UNDERWAY WITH THE EASTERN NORTH AMERICAN UPPER TROUGH BEING DISPLACED OFF TO THE NORTHEAST OVER THE GULF OF ST. LAWRENCE BY AN UPPER TROUGH TO DEEPEN AS A STRONG JET MAX...THE NOSE OF WHICH WAS CURRENTLY APPROACHING VANCOUVER ISLAND...DIGS SOUTH-SOUTHEAST FROM SASKATCHEWAN AND SOUTHERN MANITOBA OVER THE UPPER AND MS VALLEY...CARVING OUT A SHARP UPPER TROUGH OVER THE OH AND TN VALLEYS AND PROGRESSING EAST TO THE CENTRAL AND SOUTHERN APPALACHIANS BY LATER TUESDAY. UPSTREAM...THIS ALLOWS A STRONG BROAD UPPER RIDGE TO ADVANCE FROM THE WEST COAST TO THE ROCKIES. DURING WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAY THE EASTERN UPPER TROUGH/LOW IS PROGGED TO LIFT NORTHEASTWARD FROM THE MID ATLANTIC COAST TO SOUTHERN NEW ENGLAND...WITH THE UPPER RIDGE MOVING EAST ACROSS THE PLAINS AS A DEEP TROUGH DEVELOPS FROM B.C. SOUTH TO THE NORTHERN CA COAST. TEMPERATURES TO CONTINUE RUNNING A FEW DEGREES BELOW NORMALS THROUGH THE WEEKEND AND INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK THEN MODERATING VERY SLIGHTLY TO NEAR NORMALS FOR MID NEXT WEEK BEFORE MORE SUBSTANTIAL WARMING SPREADS EAST WITH THE UPPER RIDGE AND RAISES TEMPERATURES TO 8...POSSIBLY 10 DEGREES F ABOVE NORMAL BY LATE WEEK. NOTE HOWEVER THAT SOME OF THIS INCREASE AS COMPARED TO NORMALS IS TO TO THE FACT THAT NORMALS TEMPERATURES FALL AT ABOUT 1 DEGREE F EVERY TWO DAYS DUE TO THE INCREASINGLY SHORTER DAYS. SO...BESIDES TEMPERATURES RISING THE NORMALS WILL BE FALLING. LITTLE THREAT OF ANY PRECIPITATION THROUGH NEXT WEEK WITH THE BEST CHANCE...THOUGH STILL ONLY A SMALL ONE...TO BE DURING TUESDAY INTO TUESDAY NIGHT WHEN THERE IS THE POSSIBILITY OF SOME LIGHT RAIN OR RAIN SHOWERS AS A DISTURBANCE DROPS SOUTHEAST ACROSS THE UPPER MIDWEST INTO THE NORTHERN GREAT LAKES. OTHERWISE...ONLY A SLIGHT CHANCE OF SOME LAKE EFFECT SPRINKLES/VERY LIGHT RAIN SHOWERS NEAR LAKE MI TONIGHT. IN THE SHORT...TERM WEAK RADAR ECHOES WERE OBSERVED MOVING FROM NORTHWEST IL SOUTHEASTWARD DURING THE LATE EVENING AND EARLY DURING THE OVERNIGHT BUT THEY HAVE DISSIPATED OVER THE LAST COUPLE HOURS. MEANWHILE...AS ANTICIPATED LAST NIGHT...FORCING HAD SHIFTED SOUTH TO NORTHEAST MO AND CENTRAL IL AHEAD OF A SHORT WAVE MOVING EAST FROM EASTERN KS AND NE TO IA AND MO. THIS FORCING IS ALONG A STRONG BAROCLINIC ZONE /PER 03.00Z RAOBS 850 HPA TEMPERATURES OF +12C AND +17C AT TOP AND SGF RESPECTIVELY... WITH MPX AT 0C AND GRB -6C/ THAT EXTENDS NW-SE ACROSS IA AND IL TO THE LOWER OH VALLEY. THIS FORCING HAS RESULTED IN ELEVATED CONVECTION BREAKING OUT ACROSS CENTRAL IL SOUTH OF U.S. 136. THE SHORT WAVE IS PROGGED TO CONTINUE EASTWARD ACROSS THE MID MS VALLEY TODAY THOUGH WEAKEN AS IT DOES. WITH THE MAIN FORCING REMAINING ACROSS CENTRAL IL ONLY THE EXTREME SOUTHERN FRINGE OF THE LOCAL FORECAST AREA WILL HAVE A SLIGHT CHANCE OF A A FEW SHOWERS THIS MORNING. LOW LEVEL FLOW OVER SOUTHERN LAKE MI HAS BECOME RATER LIGHT EAST- NORTHEAST. WHILE LAKE EFFECT CLOUDS CONTINUE TO BE GENERATED BY THE COOL AIR FLOWING OVER THE RELATIVELY WARM WATER THE SHORT FETCH AND SUPPRESSED EQUILIBRIUM LEVEL WILL PREVENT ANY LAKE EFFECT SHOWERS TODAY. TONIGHT...LOW LEVEL FLOW RETURNS TO NORTH AND NORTH-NORTHEAST. THE INCREASED FETCH DOWN THE LAKE WILL ENCOURAGE ADDITIONAL LAKE EFFECT CLOUDS AND POSSIBLY SOME SHOWERS THOUGH CLOUD DEPTHS BASED ON FORECAST TEMPERATURE PROFILES OVER THE WATER TONIGHT SUGGEST THEY WOULD BE ONLY SOME SPRINKLES NEAR THE LAKE OR AT THE MOST A FEW SMALL LIGHT RAIN SHOWERS. DURING SUNDAY AND SUNDAY NIGHT A SHORT WAVE EJECTED FROM THE UPPER LOW IN THE GULF OF AK IS PROGGED TO DROP SOUTH-SOUTHEAST FROM SOUTHERN SASKATCHEWAN ACROSS THE DAKOTAS AND TO THE MID MO VALLEY. MODELS THEN TURN IT TO THE SOUTHEAST AND EAST-SOUTHEAST MONDAY AND TO THE TN VALLEY MONDAY NIGHT. THIS TRACK IS WELL REMOVED FROM THE LOCAL AREA AND ANY ASSOCIATED RAIN WILL STAY TO THE WEST THROUGH SOUTH OF THE FORECAST AREA. THE ONE CHANCE OF RAIN DURING THE NEXT SEVEN DAYS COMES ON TUESDAY INTO TUESDAY NIGHT AS A SHORT WAVE DROPS FROM MANITOBA AND WESTERN ONTARIO TO THE UPPER GREAT LAKES. BEST FORCING WITH THIS DISTURBANCE WILL BE ACROSS THE NORTH WOODS AND THE NORTHERN GREAT LAKES...WITH ONLY A SLIGHT CHANCE OF MEASURABLE RAIN AS FAR SOUTH AS NORTH CENTRAL AND NORTHEAST IL WITH JUST A SLIGHT CHANCE FURTHER S TOWARDS CENTRAL IL. TRS && .AVIATION... //ORD AND MDW CONCERNS...UPDATED 20Z... * MVFR CIGS 2500-3000 FT...POSSIBLY SCATTERING FOR A TIME LATE THIS AFTERNOON/EVENING. A FEW SPRINKLES POSSIBLE THROUGH 2130-22Z. * LAKE-INDUCED MVFR STRATOCU LIKELY REDEVELOPING TONIGHT... ESPECIALLY AT KMDW. RATZER //DISCUSSION...UPDATED 18Z... AREA OF LOW PRESSURE WAS OVER THE MISSOURI BOOT HEEL AT MIDDAY... ASSOCIATED WITH MID-LEVEL DISTURBANCE PASSING ACROSS THE REGION. ANOTHER MID-LEVEL SYSTEM WAS MOVING ACROSS WI...MAINTAINING BROKEN MID-LEVEL DECK ACROSS THE AREA. IN THE LOW LEVELS...WINDS HAD SHIFTED MORE EASTERLY TO THE NORTH OF THE LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM PASSING SOUTH OF THE TERMINALS...BUT ARE EXPECTED TO BACK MORE NORTH-NORTHEAST THIS AFTERNOON AND EVENING AS THE LOW TRACKS INTO THE OHIO VALLEY. BENEATH THE MID-CLOUDS...MVFR STRATOCU IN THE 2500-3000 FT RANGE HAS PUSHED INLAND OFF OF THE LAKE...THOUGH GUIDANCE REMAINS CONSISTENT IN DEPICTING LOW CLOUDS ERODING DURING THE MID/LATE AFTERNOON HOURS AS WIND FIELD WEAKENS. FORECAST SOUNDINGS INDICATE THE NORTH-NORTHEAST FLOW OVER THE LAKE WILL STRENGTHEN AGAIN THIS EVENING...INCREASING CONVERGENCE OVER THE WESTERN PARTS OF THE LAKE AND REINFORCING A WEST-SOUTHWESTWARD PUSH OF MVFR STRATOCU. GYY AND MDW WOULD APPEAR MOST LIKELY TO SEE MORE PERSISTENT CEILINGS IN THE 2500-3000 FT RANGE...WITH ORD/DPA ON THE WESTERN FRINGE. EXPECT BASES TO RISE ABOVE 3000 FT BEYOND SUNRISE SUNDAY MORNING. COULD SEE SOME SPRINKLES FROM THESE LAKE- INDUCED CLOUDS...THOUGH TIMING/LOCATION TOO UNCERTAIN TO INCLUDE IN POINT FORECASTS ATTM. WINDS...10 KTS OR LESS SHOULD BACK FROM EAST-NORTHEAST TO NORTH- NORTHEAST THIS AFTERNOON...AND WILL LIKELY FLOP TO 340-350 LATE THIS EVENING AT ORD/DPA BEFORE BECOMING NORTHEAST AGAIN SUNDAY MORNING. RATZER //ORD AND MDW CONFIDENCE...UPDATED 20Z... * MEDIUM CONFIDENCE IN CEILING TRENDS THIS AFTERNOON/TONIGHT. * HIGH CONFIDENCE IN WIND TRENDS. RATZER //OUTLOOK FOR ORD/MDW FOR 00Z MONDAY-12Z SATURDAY...UPDATED 12Z... SUNDAY NIGHT-MONDAY...VFR. TUESDAY...CHC OF -RA. MVFR POSSIBLE. WEDNESDAY-FRIDAY...VFR. MTF && .MARINE... 212 AM CDT NORTHERLY WINDS CONTINUE OVER THE LAKE...NOW GOING ON ALMOST A WEEK STRAIGHT FROM THAT DIRECTION. THE RIDGE AXIS FROM WESTERN QUEBEC TO NORTHERN IL WILL PUSH OVER THE LAKE BY LATER SUNDAY AND PERSIST INTO THE DAY MONDAY...BRINGING LIGHT WINDS. BEFORE THAT TIME...THE NORTHERLY WINDS AND WAVES WILL SLOWLY DIMINISH TODAY. WAVES OF 4 TO 5 FT WILL REMAIN POSSIBLE IN THE NEARSHORE AREAS OF IL AND IN EVEN AFTER THE SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY EXPIRATION...BUT THAT SHOULD BE ON THE UPPER END OF WAVE HEIGHTS...SO NO EXTENSION IN THE HEADLINE PLANNED AT THIS TIME. AFTER THE RIDGE AXIS PASSES...SOUTHERLY WINDS WILL RETURN OVER THE LAKE AND INCREASE ON TUESDAY AS A LOW PROGRESSES EAST ACROSS THE CANADIAN PRAIRIE PROVINCES. A COLD FRONT EXTENDING SOUTH FROM THIS WILL MOVE EAST OVER THE LAKE SOMETIME TUESDAY NIGHT OR WEDNESDAY. THIS IS NOT EXPECTED TO BE TOO POWERFUL OF A FRONT AS A STRONG LOW OFF THE EAST COAST SHOULD CAUSE THIS NORTHERN STREAM SYSTEM TO SLOW AND LIKELY WEAKEN. MTF && .LOT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... IL...NONE. IN...NONE. LM...NONE. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS CHICAGO/ROMEOVILLE IL
1243 PM CDT SAT NOV 3 2012 .DISCUSSION... 751 AM CDT MINOR QUICK UPDATES THIS MORNING TO ACCOUNT FOR ONGOING SHOWERS OVER AREAS ALONG AND SOUTH OF A LINE FROM PONTIAC IN ILLINOIS EAST TO FOWLER IN INDIANA. LATEST RADAR IMAGERY DEPICTING A SMALL AREA OF SHOWERS ACROSS THE FAR SOUTHERN TIER OF THE CWA OUT AHEAD OF A MID LEVEL TROUGH AXIS AND AREA OF WAA. INCREASED POPS TO ACCOUNT FOR THESE IN THE NEAR TERM...BUT WITH THESE SHOWERS TO EXIT TO THE EAST/SOUTHEAST OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL HOURS WITH MID LEVEL WINDS VEERING AND BETTER FORCING/WAA EXITING THE CWA. BEST INSTABILITY CURRENTLY RESIDES JUST SOUTH OF THE CWA WHERE RAP ANALYSIS IS SHOWING MUCAPE UP TO 250J/KG...WHERE A FEW LIGHTNING STRIKES HAVE ALSO BEEN REPORTED. PRECIP IN OUR CWA SHOULD REMAIN ONLY SHOWERS BEFORE EXITING...WITH AT MOST A FEW LIGHTNING STRIKES IF THIS WERE TO EVEN OCCUR. RODRIGUEZ //PREV DISCUSSION... 414 AM CDT LARGE SCALE PATTERN TO REMAIN ACTIVE ACROSS THE EASTERN PACIFIC...NORTH AMERICA...AND THE WESTERN ATLANTIC OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL DAYS THOUGH MODELS DO NOT SHOW ANY MAJOR WEATHER SYSTEMS AFFECTING OUR REGION. WHILE SEVERAL DISTURBANCES HAVE MOVED AND WILL CONTINUE TO MOVE ACROSS THE CONTINENT THE OVERALL PATTERN OF AN UPPER TROUGH OVER EASTERN NORTH AMERICA AND A RIDGE OVER THE EASTERN PACIFIC AND WESTERN NORTH AMERICA HAS PERSISTED FOR SEVERAL DAYS AND LOOKS TO REMAIN BASICALLY UNCHANGED UNTIL WE APPROACH MID NEXT WEEK. BY THAT TIME A RATHER SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IN THE OVERALL UPPER PATTERN IS TO HAVE GOTTEN UNDERWAY WITH THE EASTERN NORTH AMERICAN UPPER TROUGH BEING DISPLACED OFF TO THE NORTHEAST OVER THE GULF OF ST. LAWRENCE BY AN UPPER TROUGH TO DEEPEN AS A STRONG JET MAX...THE NOSE OF WHICH WAS CURRENTLY APPROACHING VANCOUVER ISLAND...DIGS SOUTH-SOUTHEAST FROM SASKATCHEWAN AND SOUTHERN MANITOBA OVER THE UPPER AND MS VALLEY...CARVING OUT A SHARP UPPER TROUGH OVER THE OH AND TN VALLEYS AND PROGRESSING EAST TO THE CENTRAL AND SOUTHERN APPALACHIANS BY LATER TUESDAY. UPSTREAM...THIS ALLOWS A STRONG BROAD UPPER RIDGE TO ADVANCE FROM THE WEST COAST TO THE ROCKIES. DURING WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAY THE EASTERN UPPER TROUGH/LOW IS PROGGED TO LIFT NORTHEASTWARD FROM THE MID ATLANTIC COAST TO SOUTHERN NEW ENGLAND...WITH THE UPPER RIDGE MOVING EAST ACROSS THE PLAINS AS A DEEP TROUGH DEVELOPS FROM B.C. SOUTH TO THE NORTHERN CA COAST. TEMPERATURES TO CONTINUE RUNNING A FEW DEGREES BELOW NORMALS THROUGH THE WEEKEND AND INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK THEN MODERATING VERY SLIGHTLY TO NEAR NORMALS FOR MID NEXT WEEK BEFORE MORE SUBSTANTIAL WARMING SPREADS EAST WITH THE UPPER RIDGE AND RAISES TEMPERATURES TO 8...POSSIBLY 10 DEGREES F ABOVE NORMAL BY LATE WEEK. NOTE HOWEVER THAT SOME OF THIS INCREASE AS COMPARED TO NORMALS IS TO TO THE FACT THAT NORMALS TEMPERATURES FALL AT ABOUT 1 DEGREE F EVERY TWO DAYS DUE TO THE INCREASINGLY SHORTER DAYS. SO...BESIDES TEMPERATURES RISING THE NORMALS WILL BE FALLING. LITTLE THREAT OF ANY PRECIPITATION THROUGH NEXT WEEK WITH THE BEST CHANCE...THOUGH STILL ONLY A SMALL ONE...TO BE DURING TUESDAY INTO TUESDAY NIGHT WHEN THERE IS THE POSSIBILITY OF SOME LIGHT RAIN OR RAIN SHOWERS AS A DISTURBANCE DROPS SOUTHEAST ACROSS THE UPPER MIDWEST INTO THE NORTHERN GREAT LAKES. OTHERWISE...ONLY A SLIGHT CHANCE OF SOME LAKE EFFECT SPRINKLES/VERY LIGHT RAIN SHOWERS NEAR LAKE MI TONIGHT. IN THE SHORT...TERM WEAK RADAR ECHOES WERE OBSERVED MOVING FROM NORTHWEST IL SOUTHEASTWARD DURING THE LATE EVENING AND EARLY DURING THE OVERNIGHT BUT THEY HAVE DISSIPATED OVER THE LAST COUPLE HOURS. MEANWHILE...AS ANTICIPATED LAST NIGHT...FORCING HAD SHIFTED SOUTH TO NORTHEAST MO AND CENTRAL IL AHEAD OF A SHORT WAVE MOVING EAST FROM EASTERN KS AND NE TO IA AND MO. THIS FORCING IS ALONG A STRONG BAROCLINIC ZONE /PER 03.00Z RAOBS 850 HPA TEMPERATURES OF +12C AND +17C AT TOP AND SGF RESPECTIVELY... WITH MPX AT 0C AND GRB -6C/ THAT EXTENDS NW-SE ACROSS IA AND IL TO THE LOWER OH VALLEY. THIS FORCING HAS RESULTED IN ELEVATED CONVECTION BREAKING OUT ACROSS CENTRAL IL SOUTH OF U.S. 136. THE SHORT WAVE IS PROGGED TO CONTINUE EASTWARD ACROSS THE MID MS VALLEY TODAY THOUGH WEAKEN AS IT DOES. WITH THE MAIN FORCING REMAINING ACROSS CENTRAL IL ONLY THE EXTREME SOUTHERN FRINGE OF THE LOCAL FORECAST AREA WILL HAVE A SLIGHT CHANCE OF A A FEW SHOWERS THIS MORNING. LOW LEVEL FLOW OVER SOUTHERN LAKE MI HAS BECOME RATER LIGHT EAST- NORTHEAST. WHILE LAKE EFFECT CLOUDS CONTINUE TO BE GENERATED BY THE COOL AIR FLOWING OVER THE RELATIVELY WARM WATER THE SHORT FETCH AND SUPPRESSED EQUILIBRIUM LEVEL WILL PREVENT ANY LAKE EFFECT SHOWERS TODAY. TONIGHT...LOW LEVEL FLOW RETURNS TO NORTH AND NORTH-NORTHEAST. THE INCREASED FETCH DOWN THE LAKE WILL ENCOURAGE ADDITIONAL LAKE EFFECT CLOUDS AND POSSIBLY SOME SHOWERS THOUGH CLOUD DEPTHS BASED ON FORECAST TEMPERATURE PROFILES OVER THE WATER TONIGHT SUGGEST THEY WOULD BE ONLY SOME SPRINKLES NEAR THE LAKE OR AT THE MOST A FEW SMALL LIGHT RAIN SHOWERS. DURING SUNDAY AND SUNDAY NIGHT A SHORT WAVE EJECTED FROM THE UPPER LOW IN THE GULF OF AK IS PROGGED TO DROP SOUTH-SOUTHEAST FROM SOUTHERN SASKATCHEWAN ACROSS THE DAKOTAS AND TO THE MID MO VALLEY. MODELS THEN TURN IT TO THE SOUTHEAST AND EAST-SOUTHEAST MONDAY AND TO THE TN VALLEY MONDAY NIGHT. THIS TRACK IS WELL REMOVED FROM THE LOCAL AREA AND ANY ASSOCIATED RAIN WILL STAY TO THE WEST THROUGH SOUTH OF THE FORECAST AREA. THE ONE CHANCE OF RAIN DURING THE NEXT SEVEN DAYS COMES ON TUESDAY INTO TUESDAY NIGHT AS A SHORT WAVE DROPS FROM MANITOBA AND WESTERN ONTARIO TO THE UPPER GREAT LAKES. BEST FORCING WITH THIS DISTURBANCE WILL BE ACROSS THE NORTH WOODS AND THE NORTHERN GREAT LAKES...WITH ONLY A SLIGHT CHANCE OF MEASURABLE RAIN AS FAR SOUTH AS NORTH CENTRAL AND NORTHEAST IL WITH JUST A SLIGHT CHANCE FURTHER S TOWARDS CENTRAL IL. TRS && .AVIATION... //ORD AND MDW CONCERNS...UPDATED 18Z... * MVFR CIGS AROUND 3000 FT...POSSIBLY SCATTERING FOR A TIME LATE THIS AFTERNOON/EVENING. * LAKE-INDUCED MVFR STRATOCU LIKELY REDEVELOPING TONIGHT... ESPECIALLY AT KMDW. RATZER //DISCUSSION...UPDATED 18Z... AREA OF LOW PRESSURE WAS OVER THE MISSOURI BOOT HEEL AT MIDDAY... ASSOCIATED WITH MID-LEVEL DISTURBANCE PASSING ACROSS THE REGION. ANOTHER MID-LEVEL SYSTEM WAS MOVING ACROSS WI...MAINTAINING BROKEN MID-LEVEL DECK ACROSS THE AREA. IN THE LOW LEVELS...WINDS HAD SHIFTED MORE EASTERLY TO THE NORTH OF THE LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM PASSING SOUTH OF THE TERMINALS...BUT ARE EXPECTED TO BACK MORE NORTH-NORTHEAST THIS AFTERNOON AND EVENING AS THE LOW TRACKS INTO THE OHIO VALLEY. BENEATH THE MID-CLOUDS...MVFR STRATOCU IN THE 2500-3000 FT RANGE HAS PUSHED INLAND OFF OF THE LAKE...THOUGH GUIDANCE REMAINS CONSISTENT IN DEPICTING LOW CLOUDS ERODING DURING THE MID/LATE AFTERNOON HOURS AS WIND FIELD WEAKENS. FORECAST SOUNDINGS INDICATE THE NORTH-NORTHEAST FLOW OVER THE LAKE WILL STRENGTHEN AGAIN THIS EVENING...INCREASING CONVERGENCE OVER THE WESTERN PARTS OF THE LAKE AND REINFORCING A WEST-SOUTHWESTWARD PUSH OF MVFR STRATOCU. GYY AND MDW WOULD APPEAR MOST LIKELY TO SEE MORE PERSISTENT CEILINGS IN THE 2500-3000 FT RANGE...WITH ORD/DPA ON THE WESTERN FRINGE. EXPECT BASES TO RISE ABOVE 3000 FT BEYOND SUNRISE SUNDAY MORNING. COULD SEE SOME SPRINKLES FROM THESE LAKE- INDUCED CLOUDS...THOUGH TIMING/LOCATION TOO UNCERTAIN TO INCLUDE IN POINT FORECASTS ATTM. WINDS...10 KTS OR LESS SHOULD BACK FROM EAST-NORTHEAST TO NORTH- NORTHEAST THIS AFTERNOON...AND WILL LIKELY FLOP TO 340-350 LATE THIS EVENING AT ORD/DPA BEFORE BECOMING NORTHEAST AGAIN SUNDAY MORNING. RATZER //ORD AND MDW CONFIDENCE...UPDATED 18Z... * MEDIUM CONFIDENCE IN CEILING TRENDS THIS AFTERNOON/TONIGHT. * HIGH CONFIDENCE IN WIND TRENDS. RATZER //OUTLOOK FOR ORD/MDW FOR 00Z MONDAY-12Z SATURDAY...UPDATED 12Z... SUNDAY NIGHT-MONDAY...VFR. TUESDAY...CHC OF -RA. MVFR POSSIBLE. WEDNESDAY-FRIDAY...VFR. MTF && .MARINE... 212 AM CDT NORTHERLY WINDS CONTINUE OVER THE LAKE...NOW GOING ON ALMOST A WEEK STRAIGHT FROM THAT DIRECTION. THE RIDGE AXIS FROM WESTERN QUEBEC TO NORTHERN IL WILL PUSH OVER THE LAKE BY LATER SUNDAY AND PERSIST INTO THE DAY MONDAY...BRINGING LIGHT WINDS. BEFORE THAT TIME...THE NORTHERLY WINDS AND WAVES WILL SLOWLY DIMINISH TODAY. WAVES OF 4 TO 5 FT WILL REMAIN POSSIBLE IN THE NEARSHORE AREAS OF IL AND IN EVEN AFTER THE SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY EXPIRATION...BUT THAT SHOULD BE ON THE UPPER END OF WAVE HEIGHTS...SO NO EXTENSION IN THE HEADLINE PLANNED AT THIS TIME. AFTER THE RIDGE AXIS PASSES...SOUTHERLY WINDS WILL RETURN OVER THE LAKE AND INCREASE ON TUESDAY AS A LOW PROGRESSES EAST ACROSS THE CANADIAN PRAIRIE PROVINCES. A COLD FRONT EXTENDING SOUTH FROM THIS WILL MOVE EAST OVER THE LAKE SOMETIME TUESDAY NIGHT OR WEDNESDAY. THIS IS NOT EXPECTED TO BE TOO POWERFUL OF A FRONT AS A STRONG LOW OFF THE EAST COAST SHOULD CAUSE THIS NORTHERN STREAM SYSTEM TO SLOW AND LIKELY WEAKEN. MTF && .LOT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... IL...NONE. IN...NONE. LM...NONE. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS QUAD CITIES IA IL
1216 PM CDT SAT NOV 3 2012 .AVIATION... A WEAK UPPER LEVEL SYSTEM WILL PASS THROUGH THE AREA LATE TONIGHT AND EARLY SUNDAY MORNING. THIS WILL PRODUCE ANOTHER ROUND OF MID AND HIGH LEVEL CLOUDS AND POSSIBLY SOME VERY LIGHT RAIN SHOWERS OR SPRINKLES. CID HAS THE GREATEST POTENTIAL TO SEE THE LIGHT PRECIPITATION SUNDAY MORNING...BUT THE PROBABILITY IS TOO LOW TO WARRANT MENTION IN THE FORECAST. OTHERWISE...VFR CONDITIONS WILL CONTINUE THROUGH SUNDAY. SHEETS && .PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 656 AM CDT SAT NOV 3 2012/ UPDATE... THE WAA THAT PRODUCED THE EARLIER SPRINKLES WITH POSSIBLY A COUPLE OF SHRA IN THE FAR SOUTH HAS SHIFTED INTO CENTRAL/EASTERN ILLINOIS. RADAR IS SHOWING PROBABLE VIRGA/MID CLOUDS ACROSS NORTHEAST IOWA AND INTO SOUTHERN WISCONSIN. CONDENSATION PRESSURE DEFICITS REMAIN HIGH PER RAP TRENDS WITH VERY WEAK FORCING AND FCST SOUNDINGS HAVE PLENTY OF DRY AIR BELOW THE CLOUDS. THE WARM START THIS MORNING WILL BE OFFSET BY THE LARGE AMOUNT OF MID LEVEL CLOUDS. MAX TEMPS HAVE BEEN LOWERED SLIGHTLY WITH THE IDEA THAT TEMPERATURES WILL BE SIMILAR TO YESTERDAY. LATE TONIGHT THE 06Z MODELS CONTINUE TO SHOW A LOWERING OF THE 850-700MB CONDENSATION PRESSURE DEFICITS WITH SOME WEAK CONVERGENCE FROM THE APPROACHING SHORTWAVE. HOWEVER...THE THETA E GRADIENT REMAINS VERY DIFFUSE. IF ANY PRECIPITATION MAKES IT INTO THE CWFA IT WOULD BE VERY LATE TONIGHT AND WOULD LIKELY BE IN THE FORM OF DECAYING SPRINKLES THAT MAY OR MAY NOT LINGER INTO SUNDAY MORNING. ..08.. && .DVN WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... IA...NONE. IL...NONE. MO...NONE. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS DETROIT/PONTIAC MI
702 PM EDT SAT NOV 3 2012 .AVIATION... //DISCUSSION... MVFR STRATUS WILL CONTINUE TO ERODE WITH NO MORE THAN A SCATTERED LAYER OF STRATUS BLO 3000 FEET BY 02Z-03Z. THEREAFTER...THICKENING MID LEVEL DECK AROUND 10-15KFT WILL PROGRESS OVER THE AREA WITH AN APPROACHING SHORTWAVE. THIS SHORTWAVE WILL CROSS THE GENERAL AREA ON SUNDAY...BRINGING ADDITIONAL HIGH CEILINGS...BUT DO NOT ANTICIPATE ANYTHING BLO 10KFT ATTM. //DTW THRESHOLD THREATS... * NONE. && .PREV DISCUSSION...ISSUED 337 PM EDT SAT NOV 3 2012 SHORT TERM...THIS EVENING AND TONIGHT A STABLE SURFACE RIDGE WILL MAINTAIN A FIRM GRASP OF SOUTHEASTERN MICHIGAN THROUGHOUT THE NIGHT. NAM AND RAP ARE SHOWING A RIBBON OF VORTICITY ENERGY SHEARING OUT OF THE ND/MN ANOMALY...STRINGING INTO SOUTHERN LOWER MICHIGAN FROM THE WEST. MODEL SOLUTIONS ARE ALSO DEPICTING A WING OF 700-500MB FRONTOGENSIS SLIDING OVER THE CWA. THIS FORCING IS NOW DRIVING THE REFLECTIVITY RETURNS OVER PORTIONS OF SOUTHERN WISCONSIN/ILLINOIS/LAKE MICHIGAN. FORECAST SOUNDINGS SHOW A SATURATED/WEAK LAPSE RATE LAYER BETWEEN 15-20 KFT AGL OVERNIGHT DUE TO THIS FORCING...NECESSITATING AN INCREASED MENTION OF CLOUDS. A DEEP DRY SLAB WILL REMAIN IN PLACE BETWEEN 4-15 KFT AGL...WITH NO REAL SHOT AT ANY PRECIPITATION. THIS IS IN AGREEMENT WITH THE LACK OF SFC HYDROMETEORS BEING REPORTED IN UPSTREAM OBSERVATIONS. GIVEN THE PERSISTENCE OF THE NORTHERLY FLOW TRAJECTORY...WILL BUMP TEMPERATURES UPWARD A DEGREE OR TWO FOR THE FAR EASTERN CWA. TEMPERATURES LAST NIGHT WERE ABLE TO HANG ON FOR A FEW LOCATIONS...MOST NOTABLY THE BULK OF THE THUMB. OTHERWISE...DO NOT WANT TO GET TOO CARRIED AWAY WITH RAISING MINIMUMS...GIVEN THE COLD SURFACE RIDGE AND NOTHING MORE THAN HIGH CLOUD CONCERNS. LONG TERM...SUNDAY THROUGH NEXT SATURDAY A SURFACE RIDGE LOCATED OVER THE WESTERN GREAT LAKES WILL MAINTAIN CONTROL OVER THE WEATHER ACROSS THE REGION THROUGH THE PERIOD AS IT SLOWLY MOVES EAST THROUGH THE GREAT LAKES THROUGH MONDAY. COOL AIR ALOFT COMBINED WITH SINKING MOTION FROM THE HIGH WILL KEEP MIXING HEIGHTS SHALLOW DURING THIS PERIOD...MAINTAINING COLDER THAN NORMAL TEMPERATURES THROUGH EARLY NEXT WEEK. ONE INTERESTING FEATURE THE NWP MODELS CONTINUE TO KEY IN ON IS LAKE EFFECT OVER SOUTHERN LAKE HURON BRINGING LIGHT PRECIPITATION TO THE THUMB REGION SUNDAY THROUGH MONDAY. HOWEVER CLOSER INSPECTION SHOWS A VERY SHALLOW INVERSION LEVEL AROUND 3-4K FEET WITH ABUNDANT DRY AIR ABOVE 850 MB. THE SHALLOW INVERSION HEIGHTS...DRY AIR AND RATHER UNIMPRESSIVE DELTA T VALUES LEND ITSELF TO A CONTINUED DRY FORECAST WITH INCREASED CLOUDINESS OVER THIS AREA BEING THE EXPECTED RESULT OF THE FLOW OFF LAKE HURON DURING THIS PERIOD. AS THE HIGH MOVES OFF TO THE EAST...A TROUGH WILL DIG INTO THE WESTERN GREAT LAKES REGION ON TUESDAY...TRACKING THROUGH THE CENTRAL GREAT LAKES TUESDAY NIGHT AND LIFTING OUT ON WEDNESDAY. THIS SHORTWAVE WILL BE OF PACIFIC ORIGIN...WITH NO WAY TO TAP INTO THE MOISTURE FROM THE LARGE NOREASTER TRACKING ALONG THE ATLANTIC SEABOARD DURING THIS SAME TIME PERIOD. THEREFORE WILL CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN LOW CHANCY POPS DURING THIS PERIOD AS THIS SYSTEM WILL BE SEVERELY MOISTURE STARVED. TEMPERATURES WILL CONTINUE TO BE ON THE COOL SIDE AS THE SYSTEM FAILS TO PULL IN WARMER AIR FROM THE SOUTH INTO THE CENTRAL GREAT LAKES. LARGE SCALE RIDGING WILL DOMINATE THE WEATHER ACROSS THE GREAT LAKES DURING THE LATE PART OF THE WORK WEEK AND INTO EARLY NEXT WEEKEND...KEEPING THE WEATHER DRY. THE RIDGING WILL ALSO PULL IN SOME WARMER AIR FROM THE WEST AS 850 MB TEMPERATURES WARM FROM THE SINGLE DIGITS BELOW ZERO TO THE SINGLE DIGITS ABOVE ZERO AND EVENTUALLY AROUND +10 CELSIUS BY SATURDAY. THIS WILL BRING A GRADUAL WARMUP THROUGH EARLY NEXT WEEKEND AS NEXT SATURDAYS HIGHS ARE FORECAST TO EXCEED NORMAL LEVELS. MARINE... NORTHERLY WINDS WILL DECREASE TO 15 KNOTS OR BELOW BY LATE EVENING...HOWEVER GIVEN THE CONTINUED NORTHERLY DIRECTION...WAVE HEIGHTS WILL BE SLOW TO SUBSIDE. WAVE HEIGHTS LOOK TO FALL BELOW 5 FEET OVERNIGHT. FAIRLY QUIET CONDITIONS ARE THEN EXPECTED LATE SUNDAY THROUGH MONDAY AS THE HIGH SINKS DOWN OVER THE AREA. && .DTX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... MI...NONE. LAKE HURON... SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY...LHZ421-LHZ443...UNTIL 10 PM SATURDAY. SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY...NEARSHORE WATERS FROM PORT AUSTIN TO PORT SANILAC...UNTIL 4 AM SUNDAY. LAKE ST CLAIR...NONE. MI WATERS OF LAKE ERIE...NONE. && $$ AVIATION.....DG SHORT TERM...CB LONG TERM....KURIMSKI MARINE.......CB YOU CAN OBTAIN YOUR LATEST NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE FORECASTS ONLINE AT WWW.WEATHER.GOV/DETROIT (ALL LOWER CASE).
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NWS DETROIT/PONTIAC MI
337 PM EDT SAT NOV 3 2012 .SHORT TERM...THIS EVENING AND TONIGHT A STABLE SURFACE RIDGE WILL MAINTAIN A FIRM GRASP OF SOUTHEASTERN MICHIGAN THROUGHOUT THE NIGHT. NAM AND RAP ARE SHOWING A RIBBON OF VORTICITY ENERGY SHEARING OUT OF THE ND/MN ANOMALY...STRINGING INTO SOUTHERN LOWER MICHIGAN FROM THE WEST. MODEL SOLUTIONS ARE ALSO DEPICTING A WING OF 700-500MB FRONTOGENSIS SLIDING OVER THE CWA. THIS FORCING IS NOW DRIVING THE REFLECTIVITY RETURNS OVER PORTIONS OF SOUTHERN WISCONSIN/ILLINOIS/LAKE MICHIGAN. FORECAST SOUNDINGS SHOW A SATURATED/WEAK LAPSE RATE LAYER BETWEEN 15-20 KFT AGL OVERNIGHT DUE TO THIS FORCING...NECESSITATING AN INCREASED MENTION OF CLOUDS. A DEEP DRY SLAB WILL REMAIN IN PLACE BETWEEN 4-15 KFT AGL...WITH NO REAL SHOT AT ANY PRECIPITATION. THIS IS IN AGREEMENT WITH THE LACK OF SFC HYDROMETEORS BEING REPORTED IN UPSTREAM OBSERVATIONS. GIVEN THE PERSISTENCE OF THE NORTHERLY FLOW TRAJECTORY...WILL BUMP TEMPERATURES UPWARD A DEGREE OR TWO FOR THE FAR EASTERN CWA. TEMPERATURES LAST NIGHT WERE ABLE TO HANG ON FOR A FEW LOCATIONS...MOST NOTABLY THE BULK OF THE THUMB. OTHERWISE...DO NOT WANT TO GET TOO CARRIED AWAY WITH RAISING MINIMUMS...GIVEN THE COLD SURFACE RIDGE AND NOTHING MORE THAN HIGH CLOUD CONCERNS. && .LONG TERM...SUNDAY THROUGH NEXT SATURDAY A SURFACE RIDGE LOCATED OVER THE WESTERN GREAT LAKES WILL MAINTAIN CONTROL OVER THE WEATHER ACROSS THE REGION THROUGH THE PERIOD AS IT SLOWLY MOVES EAST THROUGH THE GREAT LAKES THROUGH MONDAY. COOL AIR ALOFT COMBINED WITH SINKING MOTION FROM THE HIGH WILL KEEP MIXING HEIGHTS SHALLOW DURING THIS PERIOD...MAINTAINING COLDER THAN NORMAL TEMPERATURES THROUGH EARLY NEXT WEEK. ONE INTERESTING FEATURE THE NWP MODELS CONTINUE TO KEY IN ON IS LAKE EFFECT OVER SOUTHERN LAKE HURON BRINGING LIGHT PRECIPITATION TO THE THUMB REGION SUNDAY THROUGH MONDAY. HOWEVER CLOSER INSPECTION SHOWS A VERY SHALLOW INVERSION LEVEL AROUND 3-4K FEET WITH ABUNDANT DRY AIR ABOVE 850 MB. THE SHALLOW INVERSION HEIGHTS...DRY AIR AND RATHER UNIMPRESSIVE DELTA T VALUES LEND ITSELF TO A CONTINUED DRY FORECAST WITH INCREASED CLOUDINESS OVER THIS AREA BEING THE EXPECTED RESULT OF THE FLOW OFF LAKE HURON DURING THIS PERIOD. AS THE HIGH MOVES OFF TO THE EAST...A TROUGH WILL DIG INTO THE WESTERN GREAT LAKES REGION ON TUESDAY...TRACKING THROUGH THE CENTRAL GREAT LAKES TUESDAY NIGHT AND LIFTING OUT ON WEDNESDAY. THIS SHORTWAVE WILL BE OF PACIFIC ORIGIN...WITH NO WAY TO TAP INTO THE MOISTURE FROM THE LARGE NOREASTER TRACKING ALONG THE ATLANTIC SEABOARD DURING THIS SAME TIME PERIOD. THEREFORE WILL CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN LOW CHANCY POPS DURING THIS PERIOD AS THIS SYSTEM WILL BE SEVERELY MOISTURE STARVED. TEMPERATURES WILL CONTINUE TO BE ON THE COOL SIDE AS THE SYSTEM FAILS TO PULL IN WARMER AIR FROM THE SOUTH INTO THE CENTRAL GREAT LAKES. LARGE SCALE RIDGING WILL DOMINATE THE WEATHER ACROSS THE GREAT LAKES DURING THE LATE PART OF THE WORK WEEK AND INTO EARLY NEXT WEEKEND...KEEPING THE WEATHER DRY. THE RIDGING WILL ALSO PULL IN SOME WARMER AIR FROM THE WEST AS 850 MB TEMPERATURES WARM FROM THE SINGLE DIGITS BELOW ZERO TO THE SINGLE DIGITS ABOVE ZERO AND EVENTUALLY AROUND +10 CELSIUS BY SATURDAY. THIS WILL BRING A GRADUAL WARMUP THROUGH EARLY NEXT WEEKEND AS NEXT SATURDAYS HIGHS ARE FORECAST TO EXCEED NORMAL LEVELS. && .MARINE... NORTHERLY WINDS WILL DECREASE TO 15 KNOTS OR BELOW BY LATE EVENING...HOWEVER GIVEN THE CONTINUED NORTHERLY DIRECTION...WAVE HEIGHTS WILL BE SLOW TO SUBSIDE. WAVE HEIGHTS LOOK TO FALL BELOW 5 FEET OVERNIGHT. FAIRLY QUIET CONDITIONS ARE THEN EXPECTED LATE SUNDAY THROUGH MONDAY AS THE HIGH SINKS DOWN OVER THE AREA. && .AVIATION...ISSUED 142 PM EDT SAT NOV 3 2012 //DISCUSSION... MVFR STRATUS HAS FILLED BACK IN THIS MORNING WITH THE AID OF DIURNAL HEATING. THE 12Z DTX RAOB AND SATELLITE TRENDS SUPPORT MORE MOISTURE/SATURATION TO CONTEND WITH THAN THE FCST SOUNDINGS HAVE RESOLVED. GIVEN THE COLD NORTHERLY FLOW...WILL TAKE A MORE AGGRESSIVE APPROACH WITH MVFR/VFR CLOUDS THIS AFTERNOON. THE LOWER TROPOSPHERIC CLOUD CANOPY WILL DISSIPATE THIS EVENING. HIGH CLOUDS FROM SOME ENERGY SHEARING INTO LOWER MICHIGAN WILL BRING ADDITIONAL CLOUDINESS AOA 12 KFT AGL FOR THE OVERNIGHT. AT DTW...BEEN WATCHING SATURATION AT 2 KFT AGL OCCUR FROM NORTH TO SOUTH DURING THE LATE MORNING. STILL SOME QUESTION IF LOCAL EFFECTS CAN KEEP THE CLOUDS OUT OF DTW DURING THE AFTERNOON. GIVEN HOW AGGRESSIVE THE CLOUD EXPANSION HAS BEEN WILL BE INTRODUCING AN MVFR CLOUD GROUP FOR STRETCH THIS AFTERNOON. //DTW THRESHOLD THREATS... * LOW CONFIDENCE ON CHANCES AND TIMING OF CEILINGS BELOW 5 KFT THIS AFTERNOON. && .DTX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... MI...NONE. LAKE HURON... SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY...LHZ421-LHZ443...UNTIL 10 PM SATURDAY. SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY...NEARSHORE WATERS FROM PORT AUSTIN TO PORT SANILAC...UNTIL 4 AM SUNDAY. LAKE ST CLAIR...NONE. MI WATERS OF LAKE ERIE...NONE. && $$ SHORT TERM...CB LONG TERM....KURIMSKI MARINE.......CB AVIATION.....CB YOU CAN OBTAIN YOUR LATEST NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE FORECASTS ONLINE AT WWW.WEATHER.GOV/DETROIT (ALL LOWER CASE).
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NWS GRAND RAPIDS MI
1220 PM EDT SAT NOV 3 2012 .SYNOPSIS... ISSUED AT 326 AM EDT SAT NOV 3 2012 HIGH PRESSURE OVER ONTARIO WILL KEEP THINGS DRY AROUND THE GREAT LAKES INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK. TEMPERATURES WILL REMAIN ON THE COOL SIDE WITH HIGHS IN THE MID 40S. A COLD FRONT TUESDAY NIGHT MAY BRING SHOWERS TO THE AREA. && .UPDATE... ISSUED AT 1141 AM EDT SAT NOV 3 2012 UPDATED TO GO WITH MORE IN THE WAY OF CLOUDS THIS AFTERNOON. KAPX AND KDTX MORNING SOUNDINGS SHOW A SUBSIDENCE INVERSION WITH MOISTURE TRAPPED BENEATH IT. THE FLOW IS NORTHERLY...WHICH IS KEEPING THE BULK OF THE LAKE MICHIGAN AND LAKE HURON CLOUDS TO THE WEST AND EAST OF THE AREA. THE ISSUE THOUGH IS THAT MOISTURE HAS STREAMED SOUTH OFF OF SUPERIOR AND THE VERY NORTHERN PORTIONS OF MICHIGAN AND HURON. THIS MOISTURE IS BEING TRAPPED BENEATH THE INVERSION AND NOT ERODING MUCH. IN FACT THERE HAS BEEN A DIURNAL EXPANSION ON THE EDGES. SO...MOSTLY CLOUDY SHOULD COVER THINGS THROUGH THE AFTERNOON. TEMPERATURES WILL ONLY SLOWLY NOSE INTO THE LOWER 40S FOR HIGHS. UPSTREAM RADARS INDICATE LIGHT PRECIPITATION/VIRGA OVER WISCONSIN. VERY FEW IF ANY OB SITES ARE REPORTING PRECIP AT GROUND LEVEL THOUGH. MADISON DID REPORT A FEW FLURRIES AN HOUR AGO. FEEL THAT THE MID LEVELS ARE A BIT TOO DRY TO BRING PRECIP IN SO KEPT THE FORECAST DRY FOR THE AFTERNOON. THE DRY FORECAST IS SUPPORTED BY THE 00Z NSSL WRF. THE HRRR DOES SHOW SOME REFLECTIVITY OVER THE CWA LATE THIS AFTERNOON...BUT THINKING MOST IF NOT ALL OF THIS WILL BE VIRGA. && .SHORT TERM...(TODAY THROUGH MONDAY) ISSUED AT 326 AM EDT SAT NOV 3 2012 FORECAST CONCERNS ARE MINIMAL THIS MORNING AS HIGH PRESSURE OVER ONTARIO WILL RESULT IN DRY WX THROUGH THE SHORT TERM. THE GOING FORECAST LOOKS PRETTY GOOD AND WE ONLY TWEAKED THE GRIDS A LITTLE. LATEST IR LOOP SHOWS QUITE A BIT OF CLOUDS OVER NRN LWR AS WELL AS NW OF THE CWA ACROSS THE LAKE AND WISCONSIN WITH MORE CLOUDS MOVING INTO THE AREA. A SHORT WAVE IS MOVING THROUGH THE REGION AND WILL LIKELY RESULT IN SOME CLOUDS BUT NOT MUCH MORE AS THE LOWER ATM IS QUITE DRY. A FEW FLURRIES ARE BEING REPORTED ACROSS THE FAR NRN CWA WHERE CLOUDS ARE A BIT MORE PREVALENT. GIVEN THAT FLOW WILL BE OFF THE LAKE FOR A FEW MORE HOURS WE ADDED SOME FLURRIES/SPRINKLES TO THE FAR NW THIS MORNING. BY LATE MORNING BOUNDARY LAYER WINDS WILL VEER TO THE NNE AND THE LAKE INFLUENCE WILL END. FAIR SKIES EXPECTED TONIGHT INTO MONDAY. TEMPS WILL FALL INTO THE MID 20S TONIGHT AND SUNDAY NIGHT. .LONG TERM...(MONDAY NIGHT THROUGH FRIDAY) ISSUED AT 326 AM EDT SAT NOV 3 2012 THE LONG TERM PORTION OF THE FORECAST LOOKS PRETTY QUIET WITH GRADUALLY MODERATING TEMPERATURES AND PREDOMINATELY DRY WEATHER. THE COLD FRONT/SHORTWAVE FOR TUESDAY INTO WEDNESDAY DOES NOT LOOK VERY IMPRESSIVE AT ALL... WITH THE LATEST GUIDANCE NOW STRUGGLING TO EVEN SQUEEZE OUT QPF. THE MAIN ATTENTION GRABBER IS THE EXPECTED WARM UP LATE IN THE WEEK AND NEXT WEEKEND. MODELS HAVE BEEN CONSISTENTLY SHOWING A DEEP LONGWAVE TROUGH DEVELOPING OVER THE WRN UNITED STATES... WITH A BUILDING UPR RIDGE DOWNSTREAM EAST OF THE ROCKIES. H8 TEMPS OF 7 TO 10C ARE PROGGED TO PUSH INTO THE REGION NEXT FRIDAY... WITH EVEN WARMER AIR EXPECTED FOR NEXT WEEKEND. && .AVIATION...(FOR THE 18Z TAFS THROUGH 18Z SUNDAY) ISSUED AT 1220 PM EDT SAT NOV 3 2012 MVFR CIGS WITH CLOUD BASES MAINLY IN THE 1.5 TO 2.5 KFT AGL RANGE WILL LINGER THROUGH THE AFTERNOON AND EARLY EVENING. CLOUDS WILL MOST LIKELY DISSIPATE SOMEWHAT TONIGHT WITH MVFR TO VFR CONDITIONS EXPECTED. FAIRLY EXTENSIVE LOW CLOUD COVER WITH MAINLY MVFR CONDITIONS IS ANTICIPATED SUNDAY MORNING AND EARLY AFTN. && .MARINE... ISSUED AT 326 AM EDT SAT NOV 3 2012 CANCELED THE SCA EARLIER THIS MORNING DUE TO DIMINISHING WINDS AND LOWER WAVES. WINDS/WAVES WILL REMAIN BELOW SCA CRITERIA THIS WEEKEND. && .HYDROLOGY... ISSUED AT 326 AM EDT SAT NOV 3 2012 NO ISSUES THIS MORNING. DRY WX EXPECTED THROUGH MONDAY. LIGHT RAIN IS POSSIBLE TUESDAY NIGHT AHEAD OF THE NEXT FRONTAL BOUNDARY. && .GRR WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... MI...NONE. LM...NONE. && $$ UPDATE...DUKE SYNOPSIS...93 SHORT TERM...93 LONG TERM...MEADE AVIATION...LAURENS HYDROLOGY...93 MARINE...93
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NWS BUFFALO NY
340 PM EDT SAT NOV 3 2012 .SYNOPSIS... A PERSISTENT UPPER TROUGH WILL GRADUALLY YIELD TO HIGH PRESSURE APPROACHING FROM THE UPPER LAKES. LIGHT RAIN OR SNOW SHOWERS WILL LINGER TONIGHT...BUT THEN END SUNDAY AS MORNING CLOUDS GIVE WAY TO SOME PARTIAL SUNSHINE. DRY WEATHER WILL LAST THROUGH THE FIRST HALF OF NEXT WEEK...ALTHOUGH IT WILL STILL BE CHILLY WITH BELOW AVERAGE TEMPERATURES. && .NEAR TERM /THROUGH SUNDAY/... THROUGH THIS EVENING...NOT MUCH WILL CHANGE AS AN UPPER TROF ACROSS THE CANADIAN MARITIMES CONTINUES TO SPIN COOL AND MOIST AIR ACROSS THE REGION. ON THE BACK OF THIS TROF...THERE WILL BE LIMITED LIFT...WITH LAKE INFLUENCES AND UPSLOPING THE MAIN FACTORS TO CONSIDER. SINCE COLD AIR IS FAIRLY SHALLOW...LAKE INDUCED CAPES WILL CONTINUE TO BE MODEST...GENERALLY 200 TO 300 J/KG. THE RESULT WILL BE A CONTINUATION OF THE PATTERN WE HAVE BEEN IN...WITH GENERALLY SCATTERED AND/OR LIGHT RAIN OR SNOW SHOWERS. ROUGHLY SPEAKING A SURFACE TEMPERATURE OF 35 DEGREES SEEMS TO BE THE RAIN TO SNOW CUT-OFF. THIS LIMITS SNOW SHOWERS MAINLY TO HIGHER TERRAIN...WITH ELSEWHERE MAINLY RAIN. CONSISTENT WITH SPOTTER REPORTS...MOST LOCATIONS REPORTING AN ACCUMULATION WERE ABOVE 1700 FEET...WITH ANY LIGHT ACCUMULATIONS THIS EVENING LIKELY TO REMAIN ACROSS THIS HIGHER TERRAIN. LATER TONIGHT WARMER AIR ALOFT WILL BUILD IN FROM THE WEST. BUFKIT FORECAST SOUNDINGS FROM THE NAM AND RAP WARM THE 700-850MB LAYER...WITH THE COLDEST TEMPERATURES BENEATH THIS LAYER -6C TO -8C. THIS SHOULD NOT BE COLD ENOUGH TO SUPPORT SNOW...WITH ANY PRECIPITATION LIKELY TO FALL AS A LIGHT SLEET OR DRIZZLE. FORTUNATELY...THE SHALLOW MOISTURE LAYER AND LIMITED INSTABILITY WILL LIMIT THE CHANCE FOR PRECIPITATION...WITH ONLY A SLIGHT CHANCE OF MEASURABLE PRECIPITATION. THE PROBLEM THIS POSES...IS THAT IF SURFACE TEMPERATURES DROP BELOW FREEZING...SOME PATCHY FREEZING DRIZZLE CANNOT BE RULED OUT ACROSS UPSLOPE REGIONS IN THE SOUTHERN TIER. CONFIDENCE IN THIS OCCURRING IS FAR SHY OF ANY HEADLINES...BUT IT WARRANT MONITORING OVERNIGHT. COLD AIR WILL HANG IN A BIT LONGER TO THE EAST...WITH PRECIPITATION FALLING AS EITHER RAIN OR SNOW. IN GENERAL...FEEL MOS NUMBERS ARE TOO COLD FOR TONIGHTS LOWS...WITH PERSISTENT CLOUD COVER LIKELY TO REMAIN ACROSS MOST OF THE REGION. THERE STILL SHOULD BE SUB-FREEZING TEMPERATURES ACROSS INTERIOR SECTIONS AND HIGHER TERRAIN...WITH LOCATIONS NEAR THE LAKES NORTH OF I-90 AND WEST OF I-81 LIKELY TO REMAIN ABOVE FREEZING. THIS SAID...ANY LOCALIZED CLEARING WOULD ALLOW TEMPERATURES TO DROP SEVERAL DEGREES BELOW THE FORECAST. ON SUNDAY...SURFACE HIGH PRESSURE WILL FINALLY START TO MAKE A MEANINGFUL PUSH INTO THE REGION. DESPITE THIS...A CONTINUED NORTHWESTERLY FLOW OFF THE LAKES WILL LIKELY KEEP CLOUDS IN FOR THE MORNING HOURS...AND WELL INTO THE AFTERNOON. EXPECT SOME BREAKS OF SUN FOR MOST LOCATIONS...BUT THESE MAY NOT BE ALL THAT LONG. HOWEVER...THE DRYING AIR SHOULD CAUSE ANY LINGERING SHOWERS TO TAPER OFF BY LATE MORNING. TEMPERATURES WILL STAY ON THE COOL SIDE...WITH HIGHS IN THE UPPER 30S TO LOWER 40S. && .SHORT TERM /SUNDAY NIGHT THROUGH TUESDAY NIGHT/... THE SHORT TERM PERIOD LOOKS RELATIVELY QUIET AS A DRY AIR MASS GAINS CONTROL INTO THE GREAT LAKES AND OHIO VALLEY...COURTESY OF CANADIAN HIGH PRESSURE BUILDING SOUTHWARD INTO THE REGION. THERE COULD BE SOME MINOR LAKE RESPONSE SUNDAY NIGHT WITHIN WEAK NORTHWEST LOW LEVEL FLOW...THOUGH OVERALL DRY AMBIENT AIR AND RELATIVELY LOW LAKE DELTA T/S WOULD SUGGEST ONLY AN INCREASE IN LAKE CLOUDS SOUTHEAST OF LAKE ONTARIO AND ALONG THE SOUTHERN TIER. WESTERN AND CENTRAL NEW YORK WILL BE IN BETWEEN SYSTEMS ON MONDAY AND TUESDAY WITH SHORTWAVE RIDGING AND RESULTING SURFACE HIGH PRESSURE ENSURING A FAIR...ALBEIT CHILLY DAYS. MODEL CROSS SECTIONAL FIELDS WOULD SUGGEST MOSTLY SUNNY DAYS APART FROM SOME DIURNAL STRATOCU...ESPECIALLY MONDAY. 850 MB TEMPERATURES AROUND -6C WOULD SUGGEST HIGHS STRUGGLING TO GET OUT OF THE 30S MONDAY. MONDAY NIGHT LOOKS TO BE A GOOD RADIATIONAL COOLING NIGHT WITH OVERNIGHT LOWS DROPPING INTO THE 20S...WITH A FEW TEENS ACROSS THE NORMALLY COLDER INTERIOR SECTIONS OF THE SOUTHERN TIER AND EAST OF LAKE ONTARIO. TEMPERATURES LOOK A FEW DEGREES WARMER FOR TUESDAY...BUT PROBABLY NO WARMER THAN THE LOWER 40S. && .LONG TERM /WEDNESDAY THROUGH SATURDAY/... LATEST MEDIUM RANGE GUIDANCE CONTINUING TO SUGGEST THAT CONDITIONS WILL BE FAVORABLE FOR SIGNIFICANT CYCLOGENESIS OFF THE CAROLINA COAST AT THE START OF THE PERIOD. CONFIDENCE HAS INCREASED THAT A DEEP NORTHEAST COASTAL STORM WILL EVOLVE IN THE LATE WEDNESDAY THROUGH THURSDAY TIME FRAME...ALTHOUGH THERE STILL REMAINS DIFFERENCES IN TIMING AND STRENGTH OF THE OVERALL SYSTEM. 12Z GFS FASTER IN MOVING THE COASTAL STORM NORTHWARD THAN THE ECMWF. THE ECWMF REMAINS FARTHER WEST THAN THE GFS...ALTHOUGH THE 12Z GFS HAS MOVED LEFT FROM PREVIOUS RUNS. DESPITE THE CONTINUED MODEL DIFFERENCES...STILL FEEL THAT WESTERN NEW YORK WILL HAVE A LIMITED PRECIPITATION OR WIND THREAT FROM THIS SYSTEM...HOWEVER CENTRAL NEW YORK...ESPECIALLY THE NORTH COUNTRY COULD STILL HAVE SEVERAL SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS...INCLUDING HEAVY RAINFALL...ACCUMULATING HIGHER ELEVATIONS SNOWS AND A WIND POTENTIAL. THIS SYSTEM STILL BEARS WATCHING FOR THAT PORTION OF OUR FORECAST AREA. ONCE THE NORTHEAST COASTAL LOW LIFTS OUT...A BURGEONING PACIFIC CLOSED LOW COMBINED WITH A DIGGING TROUGH OVER THE WESTERN CONUS WILL PROMOTE QUICKLY BUILDING MID LEVEL HEIGHTS AND ANTICYCLONIC VORTICITY ADVECTION INTO THE OHIO VALLEY AND GREAT LAKES. EXPECT DRY CONDITIONS WITH MODERATING TEMPERATURES IN THE FRIDAY THROUGH SATURDAY TIME FRAME...WITH ABOVE NORMAL READINGS LIKELY BY THE WEEKEND. && .AVIATION /20Z SATURDAY THROUGH THURSDAY/... MOST LOCATIONS STARTED THE 18Z TAF CYCLE WITH MVFR CIGS JUST BELOW 3000 FEET...BUT THESE SHOULD CONTINUE TO SLOWLY RISE LATE THIS AFTERNOON. TIMING WILL VARY FROM SITE TO SITE...WITH SOME POSSIBLY REMAINING MVFR FOR THE DURATION. SCATTERED RAIN AND SHOWERS WILL PERSIST ACROSS HIGHER TERRAIN TODAY...BUT SHOULD NOT IMPACT TAF SITES. TONIGHT...EXPECT A LOWERING OF CIGS WITH DIURNAL LOWERING OF THE INVERSION...AND A RETURN TO MVFR CIGS. LOWEST CIGS WILL BE AT JHW...WHERE A PERIOD OF IFR IS POSSIBLE. HIGH PRESSURE BUILDING IN FROM THE WEST WILL FINALLY ALLOW CLOUDS TO LIFT AND SCATTER ON SUNDAY...HOWEVER THIS WILL BE A SLOW PROCESS AS WELL...WITH MVFR CIGS TO LINGER WELL INTO THE DAY IN MOST LOCATIONS. OUTLOOK... SUNDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY...MAINLY VFR. THURSDAY...MVFR/VFR. A CHANCE OF RAIN OR SNOW. && .MARINE... MARGINAL SCA CONDITIONS PERSIST ON LAKE ONTARIO...WITH 15 TO 20 KNOT WINDS MAINTAINING SOME 5 FOOT WAVES ON ITS SOUTH SHORES. WINDS WILL GRADUALLY DIMINISH AND SHIFT MORE TO THE NORTH TONIGHT...WHICH SHOULD EVENTUALLY ALLOW THE HEADLINES TO BE DROPPED. AFTER THIS...HIGH PRESSURE WILL BUILD ACROSS THE WATERS...AND CONTINUE TO INFLUENCE THE REGION THROUGH MID-WEEK. THIS WILL LIKELY KEEP CONDITIONS BELOW SMALL CRAFT CRITERIA DURING THE PERIOD. && .CLIMATE... OUR WRITTEN OCTOBER CLIMATE SUMMARIES FOR BOTH BUFFALO AND ROCHESTER CAN BE FOUND UNDER THE CLM PRODUCT ON OUR WEBPAGE UNDER LOCAL CLIMATE. SOME HIGHLIGHTS INCLUDE: FOR BUFFALO WE HAD THE 2ND MOST MEASURABLE PRECIPITATION DAYS IN OCTOBER`S RECORDED HISTORY (SINCE 1871) WITH 22 OF THE 31 DAYS MEASURING PRECIPITATION. THE ALL-TIME RECORD WAS SET BACK IN 1890 WITH 25 DAYS. FOR A 6TH STRAIGHT MONTH WE HAD A MONTH FINISH WITH ABOVE NORMAL TEMPERATURES...WITH BUFFALO`S 52.2F SETTING THE MONTH 1.4F ABOVE NORMAL. FOR ROCHESTER WE HAD A TIE FOR 6TH GREATEST NUMBER OF DAYS WITH MEASURABLE PRECIPITATION...WITH 18 DAYS. THE RECORD FOR THE MONTH OF OCTOBER IS 21 DAYS WHICH WAS SET BACK IN THE YEAR 1988. LIKE BUFFALO ROCHESTER ALSO HAS HAD 6 STRAIGHT MONTHS FINISH WITH ABOVE NORMAL WARMTH. THE 52.8F DEGREES WAS 2.2F ABOVE THE NORM. OVER AN 8 DAY PERIOD...OCTOBER 26TH THROUGH NOVEMBER 2ND...BUFFALO HAS RECEIVED AT LEAST A TENTH OF AN INCH OF PRECIPITATION. THESE 8 CONSECUTIVE DAYS TIES A RECORD FOR GREATEST NUMBER OF CONSECUTIVE DAYS WITH AT LEAST A TENTH OF AN INCH OF PRECIPITATION. THE LAST OCCURRENCE WAS IN JANUARY 1999. && .BUF WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... NY...NONE. MARINE...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY UNTIL 9 AM EST SUNDAY FOR LOZ043-044. SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY UNTIL 3 AM EST SUNDAY FOR LOZ042-045. && $$ SYNOPSIS...APFFEL NEAR TERM...APFFEL SHORT TERM...TMA LONG TERM...TMA AVIATION...APFFEL MARINE...APFFEL/TMA CLIMATE...THOMAS
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS GRAND FORKS ND
256 PM CDT SAT NOV 3 2012 .SHORT TERM... CHALLENGES IN THE SHORT TERM FORECAST WILL BE PCPN CHANCES AND TEMPS NOW THAT THERE IS SOME SNOW COVER OUT THERE. FOG COULD ALSO BE AN ISSUE TONIGHT. PREFER A MODEL BLEND TODAY. TONIGHT...LAST PIECE OF VORTICITY APPEARS TO BE SPINNING JUST TO THE SW OF KFAR RIGHT NOW WITH AN AREA OF LIGHT SNOW ASSOCIATED WITH IT. HAS YET TO REACH TO KFAR AND MOORHEAD HAS ONLY PICKED UP A FEW SPITS SO CONFIDENCE IS NOT HIGH THAT MUCH WILL REACH KFAR AND AREAS TO THE EAST. THERE ARE A FEW BREAKS IN THE CLOUDS TRYING TO MOVE INTO THE FAR NORTHEAST BUT WILL ALSO KEEP THINGS MOSTLY CLOUDY TONIGHT. WILL LEAVE THE MENTION OF EARLY EVENING FLURRIES ACROSS THE FAR SOUTH. ANOTHER CONCERN IS FOG. THERE HAS BEEN AN AREA OF FOG THAT HAS NOT GONE AWAY TODAY UP ALONG THE CANADIAN BORDER IN ND. WILL KEEP THIS AREA FOGGY TONIGHT AND SLOWLY EXPAND THE AREA TO THE SOUTH. NOT EXACTLY SURE HOW WIDESPREAD IT MAY BECOME BUT TEMP/DEW POINTS ARE CLOSE OVER MOST OF EASTERN ND NOW AND WINDS STAY LIGHT OVERNIGHT. SUN-TUE...NEXT SYSTEM QUICKLY MOVES INTO THE WESTERN FA SUNDAY MORNING THEN EXPANDS TOWARD THE RED RIVER VALLEY DURING THE DAY. MODELS TODAY LOOK A LITTLE FURTHER WEST WITH THE MAIN BAND OF PCPN. NAM SEEMS TO BE THE FURTHEST EAST SO WILL GIVE THE LEAST WEIGHT TO THAT SOLUTION FOR NOW. THIS AREA OF PCPN SHOULD SINK SOUTHWARD SUN NIGHT AFFECTING MAINLY THE SOUTHERN VALLEY. PCPN TYPE FOR THIS ROUND STILL IS TRICKY. TEMPS SHOULD BE COOLEST ACROSS THE DEEPER SNOW AROUND THE KDVL REGION SO PCPN SHOULD BE SNOW THERE. WILL KEEP THE MIX OF RAIN OR SNOW FOR OTHER AREAS. SO SNOWFALL AMOUNTS COME OUT TO LESS THAN AN INCH ACROSS THE KDVL REGION TO JUST A DUSTING FOR THE REST OF EASTERN ND. LATEST HPC SNOWFALL GRAPHICS SEEM TO SUPPORT THIS IDEA AS WELL. SHOULD GET A QUICK BREAK MON MORNING BEFORE THE NEXT PCPN SHOT COMES IN MON AFTERNOON AND LINGERS INTO TUE. THIS TIME MOST OF THE AREA LOOKS TO GET SOMETHING BUT MAINLY THE NORTH/NE FA. AGAIN PCPN TYPE A TOUGH CALL BUT FOR MOST OF THE EVENT TEMPS LOOK TO BE WARM ENOUGH FOR JUST LIQUID PCPN. HOWEVER THERE COULD BE TIMES MON NIGHT INTO EARLY TUE THAT SOME AREAS COULD SEE A MIX OF RAIN OR SNOW. .LONG TERM (TUESDAY NIGHT-SATURDAY)...12Z MODELS ALL INDICATE THE SAME LARGE SCALE PATTERN. PERIOD WILL BEGIN WITH THE REGION UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF RIDGING...TRANSITIONING TO SOUTHWEST FLOW ALOFT BY LATE IN THE WEEK. THE FIRST HALF OF THE PERIOD WILL BE MOSTLY DRY. THEN...EACH MODEL INDICATES A STRONG SYSTEM FOR LATE IN THE PERIOD. HOWEVER...THE ECMWF IS SLOWER AND WEST OF THE GFS. THIS HAS IMPLICATIONS ON TIMING OF BEST PRECIP CHANCES AND P-TYPE. ALTHOUGH THE ECMWF TENDS TO BE MORE ACCURATE IN THESE SITUATIONS...WILL STICK CLOSE TO THE ALLBLEND SOLUTION GIVEN THIS SYSTEM WILL BE A DAY 6/7 EVENT. SINCE EACH MODEL INDICATES A DIFFERENT P-TYPE...WILL GO WITH RAIN/SNOW MOST PLACES. && .AVIATION...THE REGION IS IN A TRANSITION ZONE FROM WEST TO EAST OF IFR TO VFR CONDITIONS. THIS WILL LEAD TO A LOW CONFIDENCE FORECAST. KDVL SHOULD REMAIN IFR/MVFR THROUGH THE NIGHT. THE VALLEY SITES WILL LIKELY EXPERIENCE A PERIOD OF VFR CONDITIONS...BUT SHOULD DROP BACK DOWN TO AT LEAST MVFR BY 12Z SUNDAY. KTVF AND KBJI SHOULD REMAIN VFR THROUGH MUCH OF THE NIGHT (ALTHOUGH 18Z RAP INDICATES LOW CLOUDS POSSIBLE SUNDAY MORNING). && .FGF WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... ND...NONE. MN...NONE. && $$ GODON/TG
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION FOR SOUTHEAST SD/SOUTHWEST MN/NORTHWEST IA
NWS SIOUX FALLS SD
1225 PM CDT SAT NOV 3 2012 .DISCUSSION....../ISSUED AT 905 AM CDT/ QUITE A BIT OF CLOUDS STREAMING SOUTHEAST ACROSS THE CWA THIS MORNING...AND SHOULD REMAIN A MOSTLY CLOUDY DAY MOST PLACES. A LITTLE MORE SUN MAY BE FOUND ACROSS THE FAR SOUTH NEAR THE MISSOURI RIVER. CLOUD COVER WILL AFFECT HIGH TEMPERATURES...WITH MOST PLACES SEEING HIGHS IN THE LOWER TO MID 40S. DID BUMP UP CLOUD COVER IN GRIDS FOR THE REST OF TODAY. && .AVIATION.../FOR THE 12Z TAFS/ STRATUS EXPECTED TO PERSIST THROUGH 18Z SUNDAY...ESPECIALLY ALONG AND NORTH OF INTERSTATE 90. CEILINGS GENERALLY BETWEEN OVC030 TO OVC050 CAN BE EXPECTED NORTH OF INTERSTATE 90 THROUGH 18Z SUNDAY. SOUTH OF INTERSTATE 90 CEILINGS NEAR OVC040 WILL BECOME SCT-BKN070 BY 00Z. THERE IS ALSO A CHANCE OF LIGHT RAIN OR LIGHT SNOW AFTER 03Z MAINLY ACROSS SOUTHWEST MINNESOTA. && .DISCUSSION.../ISSUED AT 325 AM CDT/ MULTIPLE CLOUD LAYERS FROM SC TO AC WILL BE PASSING OVER MOST OF THE FORECAST AREA TODAY WITH ONLY THE FAR SOUTHWEST CORNER HAVING HOPE FOR SOME DECENT SUNSHINE. SOME OF THE LOWER DECKS MAY TEND TO BREAK UP LATER IN THE DAY BUT HIGHER AC SEEN ON LATEST IMAGERY IS PINNED BY MODELS TO PASS OVER OUR SOUTHERN AREA. MEANWHILE...RUC INDICATED SOME LIFT WITH THE CURRENT MID DECK WHICH SEEMS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE FEW SPRINKLES MOVING ACROSS OUR NORTH. GOING BY RUC AND OTHER MODELS LACK OF LIFT DURING THE DAY...WILL NOT EXTEND THOSE SPRINKLES PAST 12Z/7 AM CDT RIGHT NOW. ALL THE CLOUDS WILL HAVE THE EXPECTED DAMPENING OF HIGH TEMPERATURES WHICH SHOULD AGAIN BE LOWER THAN GUIDANCE. NOT A BAD DAY THOUGH WITH WINDS LIKELY HOLDING TO LESS THAN 10 MPH. PERHAPS LATE IN THE DAY OR THIS EVENING SKIES OVERALL WILL PARTIALLY CLEAR OVER THE SOUTHWEST HALF OF OUR FORECAST AREA. WILL KEEP A SLIGHT CHANCE OF LIGHT RAIN OR SNOW NORTHEAST CORNER FOR THIS EVENING AS THE GFS DEPICTION OF MID LEVEL MOISTURE AND A LITTLE LIFT FITS OUR EARLIER FORECAST OF THIS. THE DECREASE IN CLOUDS MAY EXTEND INTO OUR EASTERN/NORTHEASTERN AREA EARLY SUNDAY EVEN AS CLOUDS FROM DIGGING UPPER WAVE START TO INCREASE AGAIN FROM THE WEST. NAM IS THE OBVIOUS OUTLIER ON THE BEHAVIOR OF THIS SYSTEM AND WILL GO FOR THE DIGGING NATURE OF SYSTEM INDICATED BY THE GFS...EC...AND EVEN THE PLACID CANADIAN. THIS MEANS KEEPING THE THREAT OF RAIN INCREASING FROM THE WEST SUNDAY AFTERNOON...AND KEEPING LIKELY RAIN THREAT OVER MUCH OF THE AREA SUNDAY NIGHT. WILL KEEP A VERY MINIMAL MENTION OF A LITTLE WET SNOW POSSIBLY MIXED IN NEAR/WEST OF THE JAMES VALLEY LATE SUNDAY NIGHT BUT NO ACCUMULATION. ASSUMING MOST MODELS HAVE THE DIGGING NATURE OF THE SYSTEM PEGGED...EXPECT A LITTLE LINGERING LIGHT RAIN CHANCE MONDAY DECREASING TO THE EAST. CLOUDS SHOULD THEN DECREASE MONDAY NIGHT WITH DECENT UPPER RIDGING AS SYSTEM MOVES SOUTHEAST AWAY FROM AREA. THE TUESDAY THROUGH FRIDAY EXTENDED PERIOD LOOKS DRY AND MILD. NOT REAL WARM AS RIDGING DOES NOT SEEM TO GET STRONG ENOUGH FAR ENOUGH NORTH TO BRING THE WARM AIR INTO SD...THOUGH IT IS POSSIBLE THAT OUR FORECAST OF 50S MAY NOT BE WARM ENOUGH LATE IN THE WEEK DEPENDING ON HOW STRING THE RIDGING TURNS OUT TO BE AHEAD OF MAJOR TROF APPROACHING FROM THE WEST NEXT WEEKEND. && .FSD WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... SD...NONE. MN...NONE. IA...NONE. NE...NONE. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS SPOKANE WA
1128 AM PDT Sat Nov 3 2012 .SYNOPSIS... A moist westerly flow will result in periods of rain mainly in the mountains and portions of Eastern Washington through the middle of next week. The Columbia Basin will stay generally dry. Much cooler and unsettled weather will likely arrive by the end of the week. Temperatures will likely be cold enough that most of the precipitation will fall as snow. && .DISCUSSION... Update: Precipitation chances have been increased for the remainder of today across Northeast Washington and North Idaho. None of the models including the HRRR are handling the band of showers over Eastern Washington and North Idaho well this morning. This area of precipitation has been associated with a pocket of mid level instability in the atmosphere as noted by 700-500 theta-e lapse rates near 0 C/KM. As the day progresses models show an increasingly stable environment but with an increase in moisture and isentropic ascent over Northeast Washington and North Idaho. Water vapor satellite shows a very moist zonal flow aimed at Washington and North Idaho so wet conditions will continue into the afternoon. Meanwhile downslope flow off the Cascades will shadow out the Wenatchee and Omak areas with most of the rain confined to near the Cascade crest. JW && .AVIATION... 18Z TAFS: A moist zonal flow will keep areas of -RA over Northeast Washington and North Idaho through 18z Sunday. Meanwhile a very moist boundary layer will result in stratus over most of the area. All models are not handling the current situation well so overall low confidence regarding CIGS over the next 24 hours. But in general MVFR and IFR conditions will be common through the next 24 hours at KGEG/KSFF/KCOE with gradually lowering CIGS expected as the boundary layer continues to moisten. Very low confidence for KEAT/KMWH TAFS through tonight as a continued moist boundary layer could allow fog or stratus to form or expand in coverage...especially tonight. However with an abundance of mid level clouds reducing radiational cooling potential tonight kept prevailing conditions VFR. JW && .PRELIMINARY POINT TEMPS/POPS... Spokane 50 44 56 45 60 43 / 100 20 20 10 10 10 Coeur d`Alene 50 43 56 44 60 42 / 100 30 20 10 10 10 Pullman 57 45 57 46 61 44 / 50 10 20 10 10 10 Lewiston 60 47 61 48 66 48 / 10 0 20 0 10 0 Colville 51 43 57 42 60 40 / 70 30 40 20 10 10 Sandpoint 48 44 54 41 58 40 / 100 70 50 20 20 10 Kellogg 47 42 50 43 56 41 / 80 50 30 20 30 10 Moses Lake 55 45 61 45 62 42 / 10 0 10 0 0 0 Wenatchee 55 48 61 46 61 43 / 0 0 10 10 10 10 Omak 53 44 59 43 60 40 / 20 10 20 20 10 10 && .OTX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... ID...None. WA...None. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS LA CROSSE WI
545 PM CDT SAT NOV 3 2012 .SHORT TERM...TONIGHT THROUGH TUESDAY 258 PM CDT SAT NOV 3 2012 THE MAIN FOCUS GOING INTO THE EARLY PART OF NEXT WEEK IS WITH THE PERIODIC CHANCES FOR PRECIPITATION AND WHAT TYPE THEY WILL BE AS THEY REACH THE GROUND...PARTICULARLY TONIGHT. CURRENTLY...A CLOSED MID LEVEL LOW IS SLOWLY PROPAGATING TO THE SOUTHEAST NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF NORTH DAKOTA/SOUTH DAKOTA/MINNESOTA PER SATELLITE AND 03.18Z RAP ANALYSIS. A LEAD SHORT WAVE TROUGH EXTENDS TO THE EAST OUT OF THIS LOW AND HAS BEEN THE FOCUS FOR SOME LIGHT RAIN/SNOW SHOWERS ACROSS CENTRAL MINNESOTA ON INTO NORTHERN WISCONSIN THIS MORNING AND AFTERNOON. AT THE SURFACE...A LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM IS MOVING INTO WESTERN TENNESSEE WITH AN INVERTED TROUGH EXTENDING NORTHWEST FROM THE LOW ACROSS IOWA ON INTO A WEAKER SURFACE LOW IN FAR SOUTHEAST NORTH DAKOTA. THIS SURFACE LOW WILL TRACK TO THE SOUTHEAST TONIGHT AS THE CLOSED MID LEVEL LOW DROPS SOUTHEAST AS WELL AND WILL BE THE FOCUS FOR PRECIPITATION CHANCES OVERNIGHT. PLENTY OF MID LEVEL SUPPORT COMING DOWN WITH THIS CLOSED LOW TONIGHT WITH THE 03.12Z GFS/NAM SHOWING STRONG 500-300MB PV ADVECTION AND QG FORCING DROPPING THROUGH SOUTH CENTRAL MINNESOTA AND NORTHEAST IOWA BETWEEN 3-12Z TONIGHT. THE MAIN ISSUE IS IN THE LOW LEVELS WHERE THERE IS LITTLE TO NO FRONTOGENESIS OR ISENTROPIC LIFT TO HELP DEEPEN THE LIFT AND SATURATION. CROSS SECTIONS/TIME HEIGHT PROFILES SHOW A QUICK SHOT OF DECENT MID LEVEL OMEGA COMING THROUGH WITH THIS TROUGH OVERNIGHT WITH 03.12Z GFS/NAM FORECAST SOUNDINGS ALSO SHOWING A BRIEF PERIOD OF SATURATING BETWEEN 850-400MB CENTERED AROUND 6-9Z. WHILE PRECIPITATION WILL BE ON THE LIGHT SIDE HAVE DECIDED TO PUT SOME PRECIPITATION CHANCES IN FOR SOUTHEAST MINNESOTA AND NORTHEAST IOWA OVERNIGHT. PRECIPITATION TYPE IS STILL A BIT OF A QUESTION DUE TO THE LOW LEVEL WARM LAYER MAX TEMPERATURES BEING UP AROUND 3-4C PER 03.12Z NAM/GFS AND 03.18Z RAP SOUNDINGS THOUGH THEY COOL AS THE PRECIPITATION LINGERS WITH ABOUT A 1KFT NEAR SURFACE LAYER THAT IS UP TO 1C. EXPECT THAT MOST OF THE PRECIPITATION WILL FALL AS LIGHT RAIN THOUGH WITH THE WET BULB TEMPERATURES HANG AROUND FREEZING THERE COULD BE SOME SNOW THAT MIXES IN. WITH SURFACE TEMPERATURES AT OR AROUND 34-38 AND WARM ROAD TEMPERATURES...ANY LIGHT SNOW ACCUMULATIONS OF A TRACE TO A TENTH OF AN INCH WOULD JUST BE ON GRASSY SURFACES. SUBSIDENCE MOVES IN ON THE BACK SIDE OF THIS LOW AND WILL PROVIDE FOR A DRY YET COOL SUNDAY WITH A RIDGE OF SURFACE HIGH PRESSURE EXTENDING SOUTH OUT OF CANADA THROUGH THE WESTERN GREAT LAKES. THE NEXT TROUGH WILL DIVE DOWN THROUGH THE NORTHWEST FLOW ALOFT SUNDAY NIGHT INTO MONDAY MORNING ACROSS THE CENTRAL PLAINS. THE MAIN FORCING AND DEEP MOISTURE FOR THIS SYSTEM APPEARS TO BE STAYING TO THE WEST OF THE FORECAST AREA WITH THE EASTERN PERIPHERY OF IT GETTING INTO SOUTHEAST MINNESOTA AND NORTHEAST IOWA. THE 03.12Z NAM APPEARS TO BE AN OUTLIER AND BRINGS THE SYSTEM THROUGH WITH A SURFACE INVERTED TROUGH EXTENDING UP ACROSS MUCH OF THE REGION. WITH ALL OF THE OTHER GUIDANCE KEEPING THE FORCING/PRECIPITATION TO THE SOUTHWEST INTO MONDAY...HAVE OPTED TO GO WITH THAT ROUTE THAN WITH THE WETTER NAM SOLUTION. THE BEST CHANCES FOR MORE WIDESPREAD PRECIPITATION COME IN ON TUESDAY AS ANOTHER MID LEVEL SHORTWAVE TROUGH DIVES DOWN FROM CANADA ALONG WITH A SURFACE LOW AND COLD FRONT. THIS SHOULD BRING DEEP ENOUGH OF FORCING/MOISTURE WITH IT TO PRODUCE SOME PRECIPITATION WITH IT AS IT COMES THROUGH. 03.12Z GFS/NAM THERMAL PROFILES LOOK WARM ENOUGH FOR PRECIPITATION TYPE TO BE ALL RAIN...SO HAVE REMOVED THE MIX FOR MONDAY NIGHT INTO TUESDAY. .LONG TERM...TUESDAY NIGHT THROUGH SATURDAY 258 PM CDT SAT NOV 3 2012 AFTER THE SYSTEM MOVES THROUGH ON TUESDAY THE PATTERN SHIFTS WITH THE UPPER LEVEL TROUGH MOVING TOWARD THE EAST COAST WITH AN AMPLIFYING RIDGE SPREADING ACROSS THE NORTHERN PLAINS. THIS WILL LEAD TO DRY AND COOL CONDITIONS WITH A GRADUAL WARMING TREND GOING INTO NEXT WEEKEND AS THE RIDGE SHIFTS EAST AND SOUTHWESTERLY FLOW KICKS IN ALOFT. AS THE RIDGE GOES EAST A DEEP TROUGH WILL CARVE ITS WAY SOUTHEAST ACROSS THE ROCKIES INTO SATURDAY. SOME DIFFERENCES ARISE BETWEEN THE 03.12Z GFS AND ECMWF WITH THE GFS BEING FASTER AND DEEPER WITH THE CORE OF THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THE TROUGH WHILE THE ECMWF KEEPS IT FURTHER WEST. HAVE KEPT A BLEND OF THE FORECASTS GOING...BUT IF THE ECMWF PANS OUT IT WILL BE WARMER AND DRIER THAN CURRENTLY ADVERTISED WITH THE UPPER MISSISSIPPI RIVER VALLEY IN THE WARM SECTOR THROUGH SATURDAY WHILE THE GFS HAS STRONG LOW LEVEL MOISTURE ADVECTION OUT OF THE GULF PRODUCING PRECIPITATION AHEAD OF A COLD FRONT SATURDAY. && .AVIATION... 545 PM CDT SAT NOV 3 2012 MVFR CIGS ARE BECOMING MORE LIKELY...BASED ON LATEST SATELLITE TRENDS...SFC OBS...AND RH FORECASTS/BUFKIT SOUNDINGS VIA THE RAP13/NAM12. AN UPPER LEVEL SHORTWAVE TROUGH WILL DRIVE SOUTHEAST FROM THE NORTHERN PLAINS TO ACROSS NORTHERN ILL BY 18Z SUN. SATURATION INCREASES IN THE VERTICAL AS THE SHORTWAVE APPROACHES...WITH SOUNDINGS FAVORING SUB 3 KFT CIGS AFTER 06Z AT KRST...AND TOWARD 12Z FOR KLSE. DAYTIME MIXING SHOULD PUSH CIG HEIGHTS UP DURING THE DAY ON SUN. THAT SAID...ANOTHER SHORTWAVE TROUGH WILL PUSH ACROSS THE REGION FOR LATE SUN NIGHT/MONDAY. SATURATION IS DEEPER AND MORE WIDESPREAD WITH THIS FEATURE...AND A PROLONGED PERIOD OF MVFR CIGS - OR CLOSE TO IT - LOOKS LIKELY FOR MONDAY. AS FOR PCPN...SOME QG CONVERGENCE WITH THE SHORTWAVE...AND HINTS OF FRONTOGENETIC FORCING. LATEST 88-D IMAGERY AND SFC OBS ALSO INDICATE SOME LIGHT PCPN OVER SD/ND ASSOCIATED WITH THE SHORTWAVE. THE NAM12 SLIDES LIGHT QPF ACROSS SOUTHERN MN/NORTHEAST IA OVERNIGHT...AS DOES THE LATEST HRRR. TRENDS FAVOR KEEPING ANY PCPN CHANCES SOUTHWEST OF KLSE...BUT KRST COULD GET SOME SPRINKLES/FLURRIES. WILL ADD A MENTION INTO THE TAF FORECAST...BUT DON/T EXPECT AN IMPACT TO VSBYS OR ACCUMULATIONS. && .ARX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... 258 PM CDT SAT NOV 3 2012 WI...NONE. MN...NONE. IA...NONE. && $$ SHORT TERM...HALBACH LONG TERM....HALBACH AVIATION.....RIECK
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS LA CROSSE WI
258 PM CDT SAT NOV 3 2012 .SHORT TERM...TONIGHT THROUGH TUESDAY 258 PM CDT SAT NOV 3 2012 THE MAIN FOCUS GOING INTO THE EARLY PART OF NEXT WEEK IS WITH THE PERIODIC CHANCES FOR PRECIPITATION AND WHAT TYPE THEY WILL BE AS THEY REACH THE GROUND...PARTICULARLY TONIGHT. CURRENTLY...A CLOSED MID LEVEL LOW IS SLOWLY PROPAGATING TO THE SOUTHEAST NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF NORTH DAKOTA/SOUTH DAKOTA/MINNESOTA PER SATELLITE AND 03.18Z RAP ANALYSIS. A LEAD SHORT WAVE TROUGH EXTENDS TO THE EAST OUT OF THIS LOW AND HAS BEEN THE FOCUS FOR SOME LIGHT RAIN/SNOW SHOWERS ACROSS CENTRAL MINNESOTA ON INTO NORTHERN WISCONSIN THIS MORNING AND AFTERNOON. AT THE SURFACE...A LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM IS MOVING INTO WESTERN TENNESSEE WITH AN INVERTED TROUGH EXTENDING NORTHWEST FROM THE LOW ACROSS IOWA ON INTO A WEAKER SURFACE LOW IN FAR SOUTHEAST NORTH DAKOTA. THIS SURFACE LOW WILL TRACK TO THE SOUTHEAST TONIGHT AS THE CLOSED MID LEVEL LOW DROPS SOUTHEAST AS WELL AND WILL BE THE FOCUS FOR PRECIPITATION CHANCES OVERNIGHT. PLENTY OF MID LEVEL SUPPORT COMING DOWN WITH THIS CLOSED LOW TONIGHT WITH THE 03.12Z GFS/NAM SHOWING STRONG 500-300MB PV ADVECTION AND QG FORCING DROPPING THROUGH SOUTH CENTRAL MINNESOTA AND NORTHEAST IOWA BETWEEN 3-12Z TONIGHT. THE MAIN ISSUE IS IN THE LOW LEVELS WHERE THERE IS LITTLE TO NO FRONTOGENESIS OR ISENTROPIC LIFT TO HELP DEEPEN THE LIFT AND SATURATION. CROSS SECTIONS/TIME HEIGHT PROFILES SHOW A QUICK SHOT OF DECENT MID LEVEL OMEGA COMING THROUGH WITH THIS TROUGH OVERNIGHT WITH 03.12Z GFS/NAM FORECAST SOUNDINGS ALSO SHOWING A BRIEF PERIOD OF SATURATING BETWEEN 850-400MB CENTERED AROUND 6-9Z. WHILE PRECIPITATION WILL BE ON THE LIGHT SIDE HAVE DECIDED TO PUT SOME PRECIPITATION CHANCES IN FOR SOUTHEAST MINNESOTA AND NORTHEAST IOWA OVERNIGHT. PRECIPITATION TYPE IS STILL A BIT OF A QUESTION DUE TO THE LOW LEVEL WARM LAYER MAX TEMPERATURES BEING UP AROUND 3-4C PER 03.12Z NAM/GFS AND 03.18Z RAP SOUNDINGS THOUGH THEY COOL AS THE PRECIPITATION LINGERS WITH ABOUT A 1KFT NEAR SURFACE LAYER THAT IS UP TO 1C. EXPECT THAT MOST OF THE PRECIPITATION WILL FALL AS LIGHT RAIN THOUGH WITH THE WET BULB TEMPERATURES HANG AROUND FREEZING THERE COULD BE SOME SNOW THAT MIXES IN. WITH SURFACE TEMPERATURES AT OR AROUND 34-38 AND WARM ROAD TEMPERATURES...ANY LIGHT SNOW ACCUMULATIONS OF A TRACE TO A TENTH OF AN INCH WOULD JUST BE ON GRASSY SURFACES. SUBSIDENCE MOVES IN ON THE BACK SIDE OF THIS LOW AND WILL PROVIDE FOR A DRY YET COOL SUNDAY WITH A RIDGE OF SURFACE HIGH PRESSURE EXTENDING SOUTH OUT OF CANADA THROUGH THE WESTERN GREAT LAKES. THE NEXT TROUGH WILL DIVE DOWN THROUGH THE NORTHWEST FLOW ALOFT SUNDAY NIGHT INTO MONDAY MORNING ACROSS THE CENTRAL PLAINS. THE MAIN FORCING AND DEEP MOISTURE FOR THIS SYSTEM APPEARS TO BE STAYING TO THE WEST OF THE FORECAST AREA WITH THE EASTERN PERIPHERY OF IT GETTING INTO SOUTHEAST MINNESOTA AND NORTHEAST IOWA. THE 03.12Z NAM APPEARS TO BE AN OUTLIER AND BRINGS THE SYSTEM THROUGH WITH A SURFACE INVERTED TROUGH EXTENDING UP ACROSS MUCH OF THE REGION. WITH ALL OF THE OTHER GUIDANCE KEEPING THE FORCING/PRECIPITATION TO THE SOUTHWEST INTO MONDAY...HAVE OPTED TO GO WITH THAT ROUTE THAN WITH THE WETTER NAM SOLUTION. THE BEST CHANCES FOR MORE WIDESPREAD PRECIPITATION COME IN ON TUESDAY AS ANOTHER MID LEVEL SHORTWAVE TROUGH DIVES DOWN FROM CANADA ALONG WITH A SURFACE LOW AND COLD FRONT. THIS SHOULD BRING DEEP ENOUGH OF FORCING/MOISTURE WITH IT TO PRODUCE SOME PRECIPITATION WITH IT AS IT COMES THROUGH. 03.12Z GFS/NAM THERMAL PROFILES LOOK WARM ENOUGH FOR PRECIPITATION TYPE TO BE ALL RAIN...SO HAVE REMOVED THE MIX FOR MONDAY NIGHT INTO TUESDAY. .LONG TERM...TUESDAY NIGHT THROUGH SATURDAY 258 PM CDT SAT NOV 3 2012 AFTER THE SYSTEM MOVES THROUGH ON TUESDAY THE PATTERN SHIFTS WITH THE UPPER LEVEL TROUGH MOVING TOWARD THE EAST COAST WITH AN AMPLIFYING RIDGE SPREADING ACROSS THE NORTHERN PLAINS. THIS WILL LEAD TO DRY AND COOL CONDITIONS WITH A GRADUAL WARMING TREND GOING INTO NEXT WEEKEND AS THE RIDGE SHIFTS EAST AND SOUTHWESTERLY FLOW KICKS IN ALOFT. AS THE RIDGE GOES EAST A DEEP TROUGH WILL CARVE ITS WAY SOUTHEAST ACROSS THE ROCKIES INTO SATURDAY. SOME DIFFERENCES ARISE BETWEEN THE 03.12Z GFS AND ECMWF WITH THE GFS BEING FASTER AND DEEPER WITH THE CORE OF THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THE TROUGH WHILE THE ECMWF KEEPS IT FURTHER WEST. HAVE KEPT A BLEND OF THE FORECASTS GOING...BUT IF THE ECMWF PANS OUT IT WILL BE WARMER AND DRIER THAN CURRENTLY ADVERTISED WITH THE UPPER MISSISSIPPI RIVER VALLEY IN THE WARM SECTOR THROUGH SATURDAY WHILE THE GFS HAS STRONG LOW LEVEL MOISTURE ADVECTION OUT OF THE GULF PRODUCING PRECIPITATION AHEAD OF A COLD FRONT SATURDAY. && .AVIATION...THROUGH 18Z SUNDAY 1233 PM CDT SAT NOV 3 2012 VFR CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED AT THE TAF SITES THROUGH THIS EVENING. AN UPPER LEVEL LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM WILL BRING BKN TO OVC SKIES TO THE AREA TODAY INTO TONIGHT AS IT MOVES INTO THE REGION FROM THE NORTHERN PLAINS. CLOUD BASES THIS AFTERNOON WILL RANGE FROM 8 TO 11 KFT...THEN GRADUALLY LOWER TO AROUND 3 TO 4 KFT LATE THIS EVENING INTO THE OVERNIGHT HOURS AS THE UPPER LOW MOVES IN. HAVE NOT INCLUDED ANY LIGHT RAIN OR SNOW ACTIVITY AT THE TAF SITES AT THIS TIME...BUT WILL HAVE TO KEEP A CLOSE WATCH ON THIS POTENTIAL OVERNIGHT TONIGHT AS THE MAIN TROUGH AXIS PASSES OVER THE AREA. STRONGER FORCING APPEARS TO BE ACROSS CENTRAL IOWA SO THINKING ANY PRECIPITATION WOULD MOST LIKELY FALL AS SPRINKLES OR FLURRIES. MVFR CONDITIONS ARE POSSIBLE OVERNIGHT TONIGHT...AND FORECAST SOUNDINGS SUPPORT THIS AS WELL AS CURRENT OBSERVATIONS ACROSS WESTERN MINNESOTA INTO THE EASTERN DAKOTAS. HAVE LOWERED CLOUD BASES TO 3500 FT AT KLSE STARTING AT 10Z TONIGHT...AND LOWERED CLOUD BASES AT KRST TO 3000 FT STARTING AT 09Z. WINDS WILL BE LIGHT THROUGH THE FORECAST PERIOD RANGING FROM SOUTHEAST TO SOUTHWEST AT 4 TO 6 KTS. && .ARX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... 258 PM CDT SAT NOV 3 2012 WI...NONE. MN...NONE. IA...NONE. && $$ SHORT TERM...HALBACH LONG TERM...HALBACH AVIATION.....WETENKAMP