Forecast Discussions mentioning any of "HRRR" "RAP" "RR" "RUC13" "RUC" received at GSD on 10/25/12


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NWS GRAND JUNCTION CO
1042 AM MDT TUE OCT 23 2012 .UPDATE... ISSUED AT 1042 AM MDT TUE OCT 23 2012 PUBLIC REPORT THAT STRONG WINDS ARE BUFFETING VEHICLES NEAR RIDGWAY. WITH REMOTE MOUNTAIN SITES IN THE NWRN SAN JUANS AND DOUGLAS PASS INDICATING GUSTY WINDS...WILL EXPAND THE WIND ADVISORY TO INCLUDE THESE AREAS. THESE REPORTS CONFIRM HRRR MODEL SURFACE WIND GUST TRENDS THAT SHOW THE UNCOMPAHGRE RIDGE TOP INTO THE NWRN SAN JUANS BEING THE BULLSEYE FOR STRONGEST WINDS. UPDATE ISSUED AT 925 AM MDT TUE OCT 23 2012 WINDS CONTINUE TO BE PROBLEMATIC TODAY WITH GUSTS APPROACHING 45 MPH AT SEVERAL LOCATIONS. WITH TIGHT GRADIENT FLOW AND A WELL MIXED LAYER (AT LEAST UP TO 600 MB FROM THE MORNING SOUNDING)...WINDS FROM ALOFT WILL TRANSLATE TO THE SURFACE...ESPECIALLY WITH THE BOUNDARY LAYER NEARLY DRY ADIABATIC. SURFACE WINDS HAVE BEEN ERRATIC...ESPECIALLY ALONG THE I70 CORRIDOR...BUT LAMP GUIDANCE SUGGEST THAT WINDS WILL BECOME EVEN MORE ERRATIC. HAVE ELECTED TO ISSUE ANOTHER WIND ADVISORY FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE DAY. APPEARS THAT WINDS WILL DECOUPLE FAIRLY QUICKLY THIS EVENING AS SURFACE FRONT BEGINS TO SEEP INTO THE FORECAST AREA. && .SHORT TERM...(TODAY THROUGH THURSDAY) ISSUED AT 409 AM MDT TUE OCT 23 2012 TODAY: PATTERN SHOWS ONLY SLIGHT CHANGE TODAY AS THE BROAD TROUGH OVER THE PACIFIC COAST STAYS PUT. AS A RESULT...VIGOROUS SOUTHWEST FLOW WILL CONTINUE ACROSS THE AREA. HOWEVER...BOTH GFS40 AND NAM12 INDICATED 7H HEIGHT GRADIENT WILL RELAX ACROSS THE AREA RESULTING IN DECREASED WIND SPEED. CONSEQUENTLY...IT NOW APPEARS UNLIKELY THAT WIND CRITERIA WILL BE MET THIS AFTERNOON AND THEREFORE CANCELLED THE WIND ADVISORY FOR THIS AFTERNOON AND EVENING. THE STATIONARY FRONT JUST NORTH OF THE FORECAST AREA OVER THE PAST SEVERAL DAYS WILL SAG SOUTHWARD AS LOW PRESSURE MOVES EASTWARD ACROSS THE NORTHERN PLAINS. THE BOUNDARY WILL COME TO REST NEAR THE NORTHEAST UTAH/NORTHWEST COLORADO BORDER AREA THIS AFTERNOON. LOW LEVEL CONVERGENCE ALONG THE BOUNDARY COMBINED WITH CHANNELED VORTICITY ALOFT SHOULD FOCUS SHOWER ACTIVITY IN THIS AREA. ADDED SOME ISOLATED THUNDERSTORMS ACROSS THE EXTREME NORTH DURING THE AFTERNOON AS FORECAST SOUNDINGS INDICATED THE ATMOSPHERE TO BE CONDITIONALLY UNSTABLE IN THE VICINITY OF THE FRONTAL BOUNDARY. ADVECTION OF COOLER AIR ACROSS THE NORTHERNMOST ZONES WILL RESULT IN ABOUT 5 DEGREES OF COOLING TODAY WHILE TEMPERATURES SHOULD BE LARGELY UNCHANGED SOUTH. FELT MAV MOS WAS A BIT AGGRESSIVE WITH THE COOLING ACROSS THE NORTH SO HEWED CLOSER TO THE MET GUIDANCE. TONIGHT-THURSDAY: COMPLICATED PATTERN WILL EVOLVE AS ENERGY CONTINUES TO EJECT FROM THE PACIFIC LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM TONIGHT...BEFORE THE MAIN TROUGH SHIFTS EAST OVER THE WESTERN CONUS WED THROUGH THU. A SURFACE FRONT WILL GENERALLY REMAIN STALLED ALONG...AND JUST TO THE NORTH OUR THE CWA BORDER TONIGHT. SO THROUGHOUT THE NIGHT WE SHOULD CONTINUE TO SEE A FEW SHOWERS OVER NORTHEAST UT AND FAR NORTHWEST CO ALONG AND JUST TO THE SOUTH OF THIS BAROCLINIC ZONE. ALSO CANNOT RULE OUT THE POSSIBILITY OF A FEW LIGHTNING STRIKES. THE GRADIENT WILL REMAIN TIGHT ACROSS THE ENTIRE AREA. SO GUSTY WINDS WILL CONTINUE OVER EXPOSED HIGHER TERRAIN...BUT ESPECIALLY ALONG THE CO/WY BORDER. WINDS IN THE VALLEYS SHOULD DIMINISH BY OR SHORTLY AFTER SUNSET AS THE AIR MASS DECOUPLES. NIGHTTIME TEMPERATURES WILL REMAIN VERY MILD DUE TO THE UNSETTLED NATURE OF THE PATTERN. THE FRONT WILL FINALLY DROP SOUTHWARD AND INTO THE AREA EARLY WED AS THE MAIN UPPER PATTERN SHIFTS EAST. THE FRONT WILL THEN PROCEED SOUTHWARD THROUGH THE DAY...REACHING THE I-70 CORRIDOR EARLY TO MID AFTERNOON AND TO THE SOUTHERN BORDER LATE AFTERNOON TO EARLY EVENING. WINDS WILL AGAIN MIX INTO THE LOWER ELEVATIONS EARLY IN THE DAY AHEAD OF THE FRONT...AND DUE TO THE CONTINUED TIGHT GRADIENT RESULTING FROM THE APPROACHING TROUGH. THE CHANCE FOR SHOWERS...AND A FEW THUNDERSTORMS...WILL ALSO SPREAD TO THE SOUTH. HOWEVER MODELS INDICATE THAT MOISTURE WILL BE SOMEWHAT LIMITED ACROSS OUR CWA AS THIS SYSTEM PASSES...ESPECIALLY OVER THE SOUTHERN PORTION. THAT SAID...MODELS CONTINUE TO SHOW GOOD UPPER LEVEL SUPPORT WITH THE NOSE OF THE 120+ JET CORE RAKING THE AREA THROUGH THE DAY. INSTABILITY ALSO INCREASES AS TEMPS AT 500 MB DROP FROM AROUND -15C AT GJT WED MORNING TO AROUND -20C IN THE AFTERNOON. THEN AS THE MAIN TROUGH AXIS PASSES WED NIGHT 500 MB TEMPS DROP TO -26 AT GJT BY 12Z THU. THEN ON THU...A REINFORCING COLD SHOT WILL APPROACH FROM THE NORTHWEST TO KEEP THE AIR MASS UNSETTLED...AND SNOW ONGOING OVER THE NORTHERN AND CENTRAL MOUNTAINS. SNOW LEVELS ARE EXPECTED TO FALL AS THE FRONT PASSES ON WED...WITH SNOW LOWERING INTO THE VALLEYS WED NIGHT. THE NORTH WILL REMAIN FAVORED...WITH MOUNTAIN SNOW LIKELY WED-THU. AGREE WITH THE PREVIOUS SHIFT THAT ACCUMULATIONS COULD RANGE FROM 3-6 INCHES OVER THE NORTHWEST FACING SLOPES OF THE PARK...GORE...FLATTOPS AND ELKHEAD RANGES. MUCH COOLER DAYTIME TEMPERATURES EXPECTED ON WED ESPECIALLY OVER THE NORTH...WITH ANOTHER BIG DROP ON THU. OVERNIGHT LOWS WED NIGHT WILL ALSO BE UP TO 10 DEGREES COOLER THAN TONIGHT`S VALUES. .LONG TERM...(THURSDAY NIGHT THROUGH MONDAY) ISSUED AT 418 AM MDT TUE OCT 23 2012 A TRAILING SHORTWAVE SWEEPS EASTWARD ACROSS THE REGION THURSDAY NIGHT FINALLY CARRYING THE MAIN TROUGH AXIS EAST OF THE AREA BY SUNRISE FRIDAY. EXPECT THIS FEATURE WILL SUSTAIN SNOW OVER THE NORTHERN AND CENTRAL MOUNTAINS OVERNIGHT. AS BEFORE...MOISTURE NOT LOOKING ALL THAT IMPRESSIVE AND AT THIS POINT IT APPEARS ADDITIONAL ACCUMULATIONS WILL RANGE FROM 1 TO 3 INCHES. THE SOUTH REMAINS MOISTURE STARVED SO WILL CONTINUE WITH LOW END POPS OVER THE SAN JUANS WITH LESS THAN 10 PERCENT POPS ACROSS THE LOWER ELEVATIONS. MODELS INDICATED SHOWERS WILL DISSIPATE BY MIDDAY FRIDAY WITH A RETURN TO DRY WEATHER UNDER NORTHWEST FLOW MOVING INTO THE WEEKEND. GFS MAINTAINS A FAIRLY VIGOROUS NORTHWEST FLOW WITH A SERIES OF WEAK DISTURBANCES BRUSHING THE NORTHERN COLORADO MOUNTAINS BRINGING OCCASIONAL LIGHT SHOWERS SATURDAY THROUGH MONDAY. IN CONTRAST...BOTH THE ECMWF AND THE GEM MODELS BUILD A FLAT RIDGE OVER THE REGION AND NO PRECIPITATION. GIVEN MODEL DIFFERENCES FEEL COMPELLED TO HOLD THE LINE WITH THE BLENDED MODEL SOLUTION WHICH FEATURED SLIGHT CHANCES OVER THE NORTHERN MOUNTAINS INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK. THE INFLUX OF COLDER AIR BEHIND THE FRONT WILL BRING SOME OF THE COLDEST TEMPERATURES EXPERIENCED SO FAR THIS FALL WITH HIGHS RUNNING ABOUT 15 DEGREES BELOW NORMAL FRIDAY. OVERNIGHT LOWS SATURDAY MORNING THREATEN TO BRING SEASON ENDING FREEZING TEMPERATURES TO SOUTHEAST UTAH...THE GRAND VALLEY...AND THE LOWER ELEVATIONS OF MONTEZUMA AND DOLORES COUNTIES IN SOUTHWEST COLORADO. A WARMING TREND BEGINS SATURDAY AND WILL CONTINUE INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK WITH HIGHS RETURNING TO NEAR NORMAL LEVELS BY MONDAY. && .AVIATION...(FOR THE 18Z TAFS THROUGH 18Z WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON) ISSUED AT 1042 AM MDT TUE OCT 23 2012 MECHANICAL TURBULENCE AND LOW LEVEL WIND SHEAR WILL BE THE MAIN AVIATION HAZARD TODAY. SOUTHWEST WIND WITH GUSTS IN THE 25-35KT RANGE WILL BE COMMON. SURFACE WINDS ARE EXPECTED TO DIMINISH AFTER 01Z THIS EVENING AS COLD FRONT SEEPS INTO NORTHEAST UTAH AND NORTHWEST COLORADO. ISOLATED SHOWERS NEAR THE WYOMING BORDER WILL PARTIALLY OBSCURE MOUNTAIN TOPS. ISOLATED THUNDERSTORMS MAY OCCUR AS WELL. && .GJT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... CO...WIND ADVISORY UNTIL 7 PM MDT THIS EVENING FOR COZ001>003-007-008- 017-018. UT...NONE. && $$ UPDATE...PF SHORT TERM...NL/EH LONG TERM...NL AVIATION...PF
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS DENVER/BOULDER CO
928 AM MDT TUE OCT 23 2012 .UPDATE...A WEAK DISTURBANCE HAS CREATED SOME ISOLATED SNOW SHOWERS OVER THE MOUNTAINS NEAR SUMMIT COUNTY THIS MORNING. HAVE UPDATED THE GRIDS TO ADD MENTION OF THESE. ATMOSPHERE SEEMS TO BE MIXING QUITE WELL ALREADY THIS MORNING AS WINDS ARE BECOMING GUSTY OUT OF THE SOUTHWEST ALREADY OVER THE PALMER DIVIDE AND INTO THE URBAN CORRIDOR. && .AVIATION...WINDS WILL CONTINUE TO BE THE PROBLEM OF THE DAY TODAY. STRONGER SOUTHWEST WINDS OVER THE PALMER DIVIDE ARE OCCURRING AS THE BOUNDARY LAYER IS MIXING SOONER THAN FORECAST. THESE ARE SPREADING INTO THE AREA AIRPORTS ALTHOUGH THERE IS A NORTHWEST DIRECTION COMING OUT OF LARIMER...BOULDER AND WELD COUNTIES. BELIEVE THE SOUTHWEST SHOULD BECOME PREVAILING SOON. ADDED GUSTS INTO THE TAFS AS WELL. BOTH THE NAM AND THE GFS CONTINUE TO SHOW A SWITCH TO WK NNELY FOR A FEW HOURS AROUND 00Z BEFORE BECOMING MORE SSW AFTER 03Z. THIS COULD BE AN INITIAL SURGE AS THE HRRR AND RUC ARE PICKING UP ON IT AS WELL. HOWEVER THE MAIN COLD FRONT IS STILL EXPECTED TO MOVE INTO THE AREA BY 12Z WITH WINDS BECOMING MORE NLY. LATEST SOUNDINGS SHOW SOME POTENTIAL FOR 3000-4000 FT BKN CEILINGS WED MORNING BETWEEN 12Z AND 16Z. && .PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 311 AM MDT TUE OCT 23 2012/ SHORT TERM...LOW CLOUDS AND FOG HAVE DEVELOPED OVER FAR NERN CO EARLY THIS MORNING BUT SHOULD GRADUALLY BURN OFF AFTER 15Z. MEANWHILE RATHER STG SWLY FLOW ALOFT WILL BE OVER THE AREA THRU TONIGHT AS AN UPPER LEVEL LOW REMAINS OVER THE PACIFIC NW. SOME MOISTURE IS EMBEDDED IN THIS FLOW AND WILL AFFECT MAINLY WRN AREAS OF JACKSON COUNTY. THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE NAM AND GFS WITH RESPECT TO PCPN CHANCES OVER ZN 31 TODAY AND TONIGHT AS THE NAM IS DRIER WHILE THE GFS IS MUCH MORE WET. BASED ON POSITION OF UPPER LEVEL JET APPEARS BEST CHC OF PCPN WOULD STAY NW OF ZN 31 HOWEVER WILL KEEP IN CHC POPS TODAY AND TONIGHT. ELSEWHERE WILL KEEP FCST DRY. AS FAR AS HIGHS 850-700 MB TEMPS ARE SIMILAR TO SUN HOWEVER LOW LEVEL FLOW EAST OF THE MTNS WILL BE MORE SWLY THIS AFTN. THUS WOULD THINK HIGHS WOULD RISE INTO THE LOWER TO MID 70S ACROSS MOST OF NERN CO. MEANWHILE AFTN HUMIDITY LEVELS OVER THE PALMER DIVIDE DROP DOWN TO AROUND 15 PERCENT AND COMBINED WITH GUSTY WSW WINDS COULD SEE RED FLAG CONDITIONS FOR A FEW HOURS IN ZNS 46 AND 47. FOR TONIGHT WILL CONTINUE TO SEE A CHC OF SHOWERS OVER ZN 31 BUT WILL KEEP REST OF THE AREA DRY. A CDFNT WILL MOVE INTO NERN CO AFTER MIDNIGHT WITH SOME POTENTIAL FOR LOW CLOUDS TO DVLP TOWARDS SUNRISE. LONG TERM...OVERALL NO BIG CHANGES IN THE FORECAST WITH THE MAIN AREA OF CONCERN IN THE WEDNESDAY TO FRIDAY WINDOW. THE MDLS HAVE A STRONG SOUTHWESTERLY FLOW ALOFT OVER COLORADO ON WEDNESDAY WITH A 130KT UPPER LEVEL JET OVER WESTERN AND NORTHERN COLORADO AT 00Z THURSDAY. THE NAM/GFS MDLS INDICATE WEAK TO MODERATE QG ASCENT OVER THE CWFA WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON AND WEDNESDAY NIGHT. SEE NO REASON TO ARGUE WITH THE LIKELY POPS IN THE GRIDS AT THIS TIME FOR THE HIGH COUNTRY. SPATIAL CROSS-SECTIONS INDICATE THE AMS SATURATING WEDNESDAY EVENING WITH UPSLOPE DEVELOPING TO AROUND 750 MB OVERNIGHT WITH A MOIST SWLY FLOW ALOFT OVERRUNNING THE AIRMASS. NAM12 SPATIAL CROSS-SECTIONS ALSO INDICATE THE POTENTIAL FOR BANDING ASSOCIATED WITH CONVECTIVE SYMMETRIC INSTABILITY OR C.S.I. AREA THE THE GREATEST POTENTIAL FOR ACCUMULATING SNOWFALL WILL BE NORTH OF INTERSTATE 70...ON THE COLDER SIDE OF THE UPPER JET SO ZONES 31...33 AND 35 SHOULD DO THE BEST. BUT WITH BANDED BANDS ZONES 30..32 AND 38 MAY ALSO SEE SOME DECENT SNOWFALL. WL ALSO MENTION A SLIGHT CHANCE OF TSTMS WEDNESDAY AFTN/EVENING AS WELL. WILL KEEP THE HIGHEST POPS/ACCUMULATION IN THESE AREA. ALTHOUGH THE AMS WILL REMAIN SATURATED THURSDAY MORNING... INCREASING MID LEVEL SUBSIDENCE SHOULD ALLOW FOR LIGHT SNOWFALL TO TAPER OFF BY 18Z THURSDAY. A SHORT WAVE RIDGE WILL BE OVER COLORADO BY THURSDAY AFTN AHEAD OF ANOTHER WEAK SHORT WAVE DROPPING OUT OF THE NORTHERN ROCKIES. THIS NEXT SYSTEM WILL DROP ACROSS NORTHERN COLORADO AROUND 06Z FRIDAY BRINGING WITH IT ANOTHER SURGE OF COLD AIR ALONG WITH ANOTHER CHANCE FOR SNOW. THIS SYSTEM MORE PROGRESSIVE AND WITH NO UPSLOPE ASSOCIATED WITH IT AS THE SHORT WAVE BRUSHES ACROSS THE CWFA. AS A RESULT...THE BEST CHC FOR PCPN MAY BE IN BE IN THE NORTHERN MOUNTAINS AND FAR NORTHEAST PLAINS. IT IS STILL PROGGED TO BE DRIER OVER THE WEEKEND. A STRONG NORTHWESTERLY FLOW ALOFT WILL BE OVER THE STATE WITH JUST ENOUGH MOISTURE FOR A SLIGHT CHANCE OF SNOW IN THE MOUNTAINS. TEMPERATURES WILL MODIFY SOME BUT THEY WILL BE BELOW NORMAL THROUGH SATURDAY THROUGH MONDAY. AVIATION...WINDS EARLY THIS MORNING HAVE BEEN LIGHT SLY AND THE HRRR KEEPS THEM THAT WAY THRU 18Z. BY EARLY AFTN THEY MAY BECOME MORE SWLY AS MIXING OF THE BNDRY LAYER OCCURS. BY 00Z THE NAM CONTINUES TO SHOW A SWITCH TO WK NNELY FOR A FEW HOURS BEFORE BECOMING MORE SSW AFTER 03Z. OVERNIGHT A CDFNT WILL MOVE INTO THE AREA BY 12Z WITH WINDS BECOMING MORE NLY. LATEST SOUNDINGS SHOW SOME POTENTIAL FOR 3000-4000 FT BKN CEILINGS WED MORNING BETWEEN 12Z AND 16Z. && .BOU WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... RED FLAG WARNING FROM NOON TODAY TO 6 PM MDT THIS EVENING FOR COZ246-247. && $$ SHORT TERM...RPK LONG TERM....COOPER UPDATE/AVIATION...KRIEDERMAN
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS ALBANY NY
735 AM EDT TUE OCT 23 2012 .SYNOPSIS... A WARM FRONT WILL APPROACH FROM THE SOUTHWEST TODAY AND TONIGHT...AS A WEAK WAVE OF LOW PRESSURE TRAVELS ALONG IT. THIS WILL BRING CLOUDS AND SOME RAIN TO THE REGION THROUGH WEDNESDAY MORNING...WITH THE BEST CHANCE OF RAIN EXPECTED FROM THE GREATER CAPITAL REGION AND AREAS SOUTH AND WEST. TEMPERATURES WILL REMAIN SOMEWHAT COOL DUE TO CLOUDS AND RAIN THROUGH WEDNESDAY...BEFORE GRADUALLY WARMING FOR THE END OF THE WEEK. && .NEAR TERM /UNTIL 6 PM THIS EVENING/... AS OF 645 AM EDT...HIGH CLOUDS ARE GRADUALLY INCREASING ACROSS THE REGION...WITH MID LEVEL CLOUDS SLOWLY APPROACHING FROM THE WEST. TEMPS HAVE DROPPED INTO THE UPPER 30S TO LOWER 40S IN MOST VALLEYS...WITH MID 30S ACROSS PORTIONS OF THE SOUTHERN ADIRONDACKS. CLOUDS WILL CONTINUE TO INCREASE/THICKEN FROM W TO E THROUGH MID MORNING. SOME SUNSHINE MAY BE DIMLY VISIBLE AT TIMES UNTIL THEN...ESP FOR AREAS E OF THE HUDSON RIVER VALLEY...AND INTO SOUTHERN VT. AS ONE SHORTWAVE...CURRENTLY OVER LOWER MICHIGAN...TRANSLATES EASTWARD TODAY...INCREASING ISENTROPIC LIFT TO THE EAST OF THIS FEATURE SHOULD ALLOW RAIN TO EXPAND INTO WESTERN AND SOUTHERN PORTIONS OF THE REGION BY MID TO LATE MORNING. 00Z/23 MODELS AND 03Z/SREFS HAVE TRENDED FURTHER NORTH WITH THE EXPECTED RAIN SHIELD WITH THIS SYSTEM...AND THIS IS FURTHER SUPPORTED BY RECENT UPSTREAM RADAR TRENDS...AS WELL AS THE LATEST HRRR MODEL. THEREFORE...HAVE RAISED POPS INTO THE LIKELY RANGE FOR CENTRAL AND SOUTHERN PORTIONS OF THE REGION...FOR THIS AFTERNOON/EVENING...WITH THE NORTHERN EDGE OF LIKELY POPS JUST N OF SARATOGA...AND INTO EXTREME SW VT. IT IS POSSIBLE THAT THIS INITIAL SURGE OF RAINFALL WEAKENS A BIT UPON MOVING FURTHER E INTO OUR REGION...AS IT OUTRUNS THE BEST LOW LEVEL MOISTURE TRANSPORT CURRENTLY FEEDING INTO IT FROM THE OHIO VALLEY REGION. HOWEVER...RENEWED SHOWERS/RAIN WILL LIKELY DEVELOP ON THE NORTHERN PERIPHERY OF THE SHORTWAVE AS IT TRANSLATES NEAR OR JUST S/W OF THE CAPITAL REGION LATER THIS AFTERNOON OR EARLY THIS EVENING. RAINFALL AMTS SHOULD BE GENERALLY LIGHT TO MODERATE...WITH AN AREA OF ONE QUARTER...TO ONE HALF INCH EXPECTED JUST S/W OF THE CAPITAL REGION...ACROSS THE SCHOHARIE VALLEY AND CATSKILLS. SOMEWHAT HIGHER AMTS ARE POSSIBLE WITHIN ANY EMBEDDED BANDS THAT DEVELOP...AS MID LEVEL FRONTOGENETICAL FORCING INCREASES LATER THIS AFTERNOON. THEREFORE...HAVE INCLUDED A SMALLER AREA WITHIN THE MORE GENERAL 0.25-0.50 REGION OF 0.50-0.75. SOME WEAK ELEVATED INSTABILITY WILL PASS ACROSS SOUTHERN AREAS LATER THIS AFTERNOON...WHICH COULD SUPPORT A FEW RUMBLES OF THUNDER. HOWEVER...OVERALL ELEVATED INSTABILITY LOOKS MUCH WEAKER THAN WHAT OCCURRED UPSTREAM DURING THE OVERNIGHT HOURS WHERE SOME CG LIGHTNING STRIKES WERE NOTED. SO...HAVE KEPT OUT MENTION OF THUNDER AT THIS TIME. FOR TEMPS...GIVEN THE EXPECTED INCREASE IN CLOUD COVER AND EVENTUAL RAIN...HAVE SIDED CLOSER TO THE COOLER MET MOS IN MOST AREAS...WITH MID TO UPPER 50S EXPECTED FOR MAX TEMPS. GIVEN INITIAL DEWPOINTS IN THE LOWER 40S...WET BULB COOLING MAY ACTUALLY ALLOW TEMPS TO FALL ONCE THE RAIN DEVELOPS LATER THIS MORNING INTO THE AFTERNOON. SHOULD THE RAIN DEVELOP ANY SOONER...EVEN COOLER MAX TEMPS WOULD BE POSSIBLE. && .SHORT TERM /6 PM THIS EVENING THROUGH THURSDAY NIGHT/... TONIGHT...THE FIRST SHORTWAVE SHOULD TRANSLATE E/SE ACROSS THE SOUTHERN HALF OF THE REGION THIS EVENING. THEN...A SECOND SHORTWAVE SHOULD APPROACH SOUTHERN AREAS CLOSER TO DAYBREAK. THIS SHOULD FAVOR SOUTHERN AREAS FOR THE BEST CHC FOR RAIN OVERNIGHT...AFTER THE INITIAL SURGE OF LIGHT TO MODERATE RAINFALL THIS EVENING. THEREFORE...WILL TREND LIKELY POPS SOUTHWARD THROUGH THE EVENING AND OVERNIGHT HOURS. NORTHERN AREAS MAY ACTUALLY HAVE SOME THIN SPOTS IN THE CLOUDS DEVELOP AT TIMES OVERNIGHT...WHICH COULD ALLOW FOR COOLER TEMPS...AND SOME PATCHY FOG. HAVE GENERALLY SIDED WITH A MAV/MET MOS BLEND...WHICH WERE FAIRLY CLOSE IN MOST AREAS. WED-WED NT...MAIN FORCING MECHANISMS FOR LIFT SHOULD MOVE S AND E OF REGION WED MORNING. IN THEIR WAKE...VERY LITTLE IN THE WAY OF DYNAMICS WILL REMAIN. HOWEVER...LOW LEVEL MOISTURE AND WEAK LOW LEVEL ISENTROPIC LIFT SHOULD PERSIST...AND MAY ACTUALLY INTENSIFY WED NT. THEREFORE...WILL KEEP SOME SLIGHT CHC POPS FOR WED AFTERNOON ACROSS SOUTHERN AREAS...THEN EXPAND POPS NORTHWARD...AND INCLUDE CHC POPS ACROSS THE EASTERN CATSKILLS. THIS WILL BE FOR LIGHT RAIN SHOWERS AND AREAS OF DRIZZLE IN THE PERSISTENT LOW LEVEL ISENTROPIC LIFT...AND WELL AS FOR THE INTERACTION OF THE HIGHER TERRAIN WITH THE MOIST AND LIGHT SE FLOW. FOR TEMPS...SIDED CLOSER TO THE COOLER MET MOS AGAIN FOR WED...WITH MAINLY 55-60 EXPECTED IN MOST AREAS DUE TO CLOUDS AND SOME LIGHT RAIN/DRIZZLE. FOR WED NT...SIDED CLOSER TO THE WARMER MET MOS...DUE TO EXPECTED CLOUD COVER...WITH WIDESPREAD 40S TO LOWER 50S. THU-THU NT...DESPITE STRONGLY RISING MID AND UPPER TROPOSPHERIC HEIGHTS...A PERSISTENT MOIST SE FLOW MAY ACT TO KEEP LOW CLOUDS AND SOME SPOTTY DRIZZLE FAIRLY PERSISTENT THROUGH THIS PERIOD. HAVE THEREFORE SIDED CLOSER TO THE COOLER MET MOS...WITH GENERALLY 60-65 EXPECTED FOR MAXES...AND 40S TO LOWER 50S FOR MINS. && .LONG TERM /FRIDAY THROUGH MONDAY/... NOT A WHOLE LOT OF CHANGE TO THE LONG RANGE FORECAST WITH LOTS OF SPREAD IN THE GUIDANCE AS TO HOW A POTENTIAL STORM ALONG THE EAST COAST OF THE U.S EVOLVES. THE FIRST PART OF THE LONG RANGE FORECAST...FRIDAY AND SATURDAY...LOOKS QUIET...WITH DRY WEATHER... INCREASING CLOUD COVER AND HIGH TEMPERATURES IN THE 60S TO AROUND 70. THERE COULD BE SOME ISOLATED SHOWERS ADVANCING INTO WESTERN AREAS SATURDAY AFTERNOON DEPENDING ON THE TIMING OF THE APPROACH OF A STRONG NORTHERN STREAM SYSTEM FROM THE MIDWEST AND GREAT LAKES. THIS NORTHERN STREAM SYSTEM...COMBINED WITH HIGH AMPLITUDE UPPER RIDGING JUST OFF THE CANADIAN COAST...IS PREDICTED TO INFLUENCE THE MOVEMENT OF THE TROPICAL SYSTEM CURRENTLY DEVELOPING IN THE CARIBBEAN. DECENT CONSENSUS THAT THESE UPPER FEATURES WILL INTERACT WITH THE TROPICAL SYSTEM...SUPPORTING NORTHWARD MOVEMENT. HOWEVER...THE EXACT POSITION OF THESE STEERING FEATURES WILL DETERMINE WHETHER THE STORM IMPACTS THE EASTERN U.S. OR STAYS MAINLY OUT TO SEA. SO...THE RANGE OF POSSIBLE IMPACTS IS STILL ANYWHERE FROM NO IMPACT TO A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT...BUT AN EXTREMELY UNUSUAL UPPER PATTERN CONFIGURATION AND STORM TRACK WOULD BE REQUIRED FOR THE WORST CASE SCENARIO OF HEAVY RAIN AND WINDS IN EASTERN AND NORTHERN NY AND WESTERN NEW ENGLAND. STILL AT THE WAIT AND SEE STAGE FOR THIS POTENTIAL SYSTEM...WHICH AGAIN COULD HAVE MINIMAL IMPACT OR SIGNIFICANT IMPACT OR SOMETHING IN BETWEEN. EVEN THE GUIDANCE THAT KEEPS THE STORM WELL OFFSHORE SHOWS OUR REGION IN THE RIGHT ENTRANCE REGION OF A STRONG UPPER JET SEGMENT AND DECENT BOUNDARY LAYER THERMAL GRADIENT ALONG A COLD FRONT... ASSOCIATED WITH THE ADVANCING NORTHERN STREAM SYSTEM THAT COULD BE GOING NEGATIVE TILT AND TRENDING TOWARD BECOMING A CUT OFF UPPER LOW. SO EVEN IF WE DO NOT SEE A DIRECT IMPACT FROM THE STORM...SOME ENHANCED RAINFALL ALONG THE COLD FRONT...AND WITHIN THE REGION OF STRONG UPPER DYNAMICS...COULD OCCUR SATURDAY NIGHT THROUGH MONDAY. JUST INDICATING CLOUDY WITH CHANCES OF RAIN SATURDAY NIGHT THROUGH MONDAY WITH HIGHS IN THE MID 50S TO LOWER 60S SUNDAY AND UPPER 40S TO MID 50S MONDAY. && .AVIATION /12Z TUESDAY THROUGH SATURDAY/... SOME HIGH THIN CLOUDS ARE SPREADING ACROSS THE REGION AHEAD OF AN UPPER LEVEL SYSTEM IN THE GREAT LAKES AND VFR CONDITIONS SHOULD PREVAIL THROUGH MUCH OF THIS MORNING. THE SYSTEM IN THE GREAT LAKES SHOULD TRACK ACROSS OUR REGION THROUGH THE DAY AND EVENING. AN AREA OF LIGHT RAIN CURRENTLY IN WESTERN NY IS TRACKING TOWARD EASTERN NY. A FEW SHOWERS COULD BEGIN TO AFFECT TAF SITES BETWEEN 15Z- 17Z. ONCE THE RAIN STARTS AND BECOMES STEADY...IT SHOULD LAST UNTIL AROUND 00Z-01Z. THE NORTHERN PERIPHERY OF THE STEADIER RAIN SHOULD BE ABOUT KALB AND KPSF. HOWEVER...PUTTING VCSH IN KGFL. SOME TEMPO MVFR CEILINGS AND VISIBILITIES ARE POSSIBLE DURING THE RAIN AT KALB...KPSF AND POU THIS AFTERNOON AND EARLY EVENING. THE EXACT END OF THE RAIN IS UNKNOWN BUT KEPT VCSH THROUGH 12Z AND SOME MVFR CEILINGS AT ALL SITES UNTIL THE EXACT TIMING OF THE EXIT OF THE RAIN IS KNOWN. WINDS SHOULD BE LIGHT EAST TO NORTHEAST AT 5 KT OR LESS TROUGH THE TAF PERIOD ENDING AT 06Z TOMORROW. OUTLOOK... WED...VFR/MVFR. CHC -SHRA ESPECIALLY SOUTH OF KALB. THU-FRI...VFR. NO SIG WX. SAT...VFR. SLGT CHC -SHRA. && .FIRE WEATHER... FIRE WEATHER RELATED CONCERNS SHOULD REMAIN MINIMAL OVER THE NEXT 3 DAYS DUE TO LIGHT WINDS AND PERSISTENT HIGH RELATIVE HUMIDITIES. REFER TO LATEST FWFALY FOR MORE SPECIFIC DETAILS. && .HYDROLOGY... RAINFALL AMTS SHOULD GENERALLY BE ONE QUARTER...TO ONE HALF OF AN INCH FOR AREAS NEAR AND TO THE SOUTH/WEST OF THE GREATER CAPITAL REGION THROUGH THURSDAY...WITH LESS THAN ONE QUARTER OF AN INCH TO THE NORTH AND EAST. SOME MINOR...WITHIN BANK RISES ARE POSSIBLE FOR AREAS WHERE RAINFALL AMTS REACH ONE HALF INCH OR GREATER...SUCH AS ON THE ESOPUS...RONDOUT AND SCHOHARIE CREEKS. GENERALLY DRY CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED FOR LATE THURSDAY THROUGH AT LEAST EARLY SATURDAY. && .ALY WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... CT...NONE. NY...NONE. MA...NONE. VT...NONE. && $$ SYNOPSIS...KL NEAR TERM...KL SHORT TERM...KL LONG TERM...NAS AVIATION...NAS FIRE WEATHER...KL HYDROLOGY...KL
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS ALBANY NY
644 AM EDT TUE OCT 23 2012 .SYNOPSIS... A WARM FRONT WILL APPROACH FROM THE SOUTHWEST TODAY AND TONIGHT...AS A WEAK WAVE OF LOW PRESSURE TRAVELS ALONG IT. THIS WILL BRING CLOUDS AND SOME RAIN TO THE REGION THROUGH WEDNESDAY MORNING...WITH THE BEST CHANCE OF RAIN EXPECTED FROM THE GREATER CAPITAL REGION AND AREAS SOUTH AND WEST. TEMPERATURES WILL REMAIN SOMEWHAT COOL DUE TO CLOUDS AND RAIN THROUGH WEDNESDAY...BEFORE GRADUALLY WARMING FOR THE END OF THE WEEK. && .NEAR TERM /UNTIL 6 PM THIS EVENING/... AS OF 645 AM EDT...HIGH CLOUDS ARE GRADUALLY INCREASING ACROSS THE REGION...WITH MID LEVEL CLOUDS SLOWLY APPROACHING FROM THE WEST. TEMPS HAVE DROPPED INTO THE UPPER 30S TO LOWER 40S IN MOST VALLEYS...WITH MID 30S ACROSS PORTIONS OF THE SOUTHERN ADIRONDACKS. CLOUDS WILL CONTINUE TO INCREASE/THICKEN FROM W TO E THROUGH MID MORNING. SOME SUNSHINE MAY BE DIMLY VISIBLE AT TIMES UNTIL THEN...ESP FOR AREAS E OF THE HUDSON RIVER VALLEY...AND INTO SOUTHERN VT. AS ONE SHORTWAVE...CURRENTLY OVER LOWER MICHIGAN...TRANSLATES EASTWARD TODAY...INCREASING ISENTROPIC LIFT TO THE EAST OF THIS FEATURE SHOULD ALLOW RAIN TO EXPAND INTO WESTERN AND SOUTHERN PORTIONS OF THE REGION BY MID TO LATE MORNING. 00Z/23 MODELS AND 03Z/SREFS HAVE TRENDED FURTHER NORTH WITH THE EXPECTED RAIN SHIELD WITH THIS SYSTEM...AND THIS IS FURTHER SUPPORTED BY RECENT UPSTREAM RADAR TRENDS...AS WELL AS THE LATEST HRRR MODEL. THEREFORE...HAVE RAISED POPS INTO THE LIKELY RANGE FOR CENTRAL AND SOUTHERN PORTIONS OF THE REGION...FOR THIS AFTERNOON/EVENING...WITH THE NORTHERN EDGE OF LIKELY POPS JUST N OF SARATOGA...AND INTO EXTREME SW VT. IT IS POSSIBLE THAT THIS INITIAL SURGE OF RAINFALL WEAKENS A BIT UPON MOVING FURTHER E INTO OUR REGION...AS IT OUTRUNS THE BEST LOW LEVEL MOISTURE TRANSPORT CURRENTLY FEEDING INTO IT FROM THE OHIO VALLEY REGION. HOWEVER...RENEWED SHOWERS/RAIN WILL LIKELY DEVELOP ON THE NORTHERN PERIPHERY OF THE SHORTWAVE AS IT TRANSLATES NEAR OR JUST S/W OF THE CAPITAL REGION LATER THIS AFTERNOON OR EARLY THIS EVENING. RAINFALL AMTS SHOULD BE GENERALLY LIGHT TO MODERATE...WITH AN AREA OF ONE QUARTER...TO ONE HALF INCH EXPECTED JUST S/W OF THE CAPITAL REGION...ACROSS THE SCHOHARIE VALLEY AND CATSKILLS. SOMEWHAT HIGHER AMTS ARE POSSIBLE WITHIN ANY EMBEDDED BANDS THAT DEVELOP...AS MID LEVEL FRONTOGENETICAL FORCING INCREASES LATER THIS AFTERNOON. THEREFORE...HAVE INCLUDED A SMALLER AREA WITHIN THE MORE GENERAL 0.25-0.50 REGION OF 0.50-0.75. SOME WEAK ELEVATED INSTABILITY WILL PASS ACROSS SOUTHERN AREAS LATER THIS AFTERNOON...WHICH COULD SUPPORT A FEW RUMBLES OF THUNDER. HOWEVER...OVERALL ELEVATED INSTABILITY LOOKS MUCH WEAKER THAN WHAT OCCURRED UPSTREAM DURING THE OVERNIGHT HOURS WHERE SOME CG LIGHTNING STRIKES WERE NOTED. SO...HAVE KEPT OUT MENTION OF THUNDER AT THIS TIME. FOR TEMPS...GIVEN THE EXPECTED INCREASE IN CLOUD COVER AND EVENTUAL RAIN...HAVE SIDED CLOSER TO THE COOLER MET MOS IN MOST AREAS...WITH MID TO UPPER 50S EXPECTED FOR MAX TEMPS. GIVEN INITIAL DEWPOINTS IN THE LOWER 40S...WET BULB COOLING MAY ACTUALLY ALLOW TEMPS TO FALL ONCE THE RAIN DEVELOPS LATER THIS MORNING INTO THE AFTERNOON. SHOULD THE RAIN DEVELOP ANY SOONER...EVEN COOLER MAX TEMPS WOULD BE POSSIBLE. && .SHORT TERM /6 PM THIS EVENING THROUGH THURSDAY NIGHT/... TONIGHT...THE FIRST SHORTWAVE SHOULD TRANSLATE E/SE ACROSS THE SOUTHERN HALF OF THE REGION THIS EVENING. THEN...A SECOND SHORTWAVE SHOULD APPROACH SOUTHERN AREAS CLOSER TO DAYBREAK. THIS SHOULD FAVOR SOUTHERN AREAS FOR THE BEST CHC FOR RAIN OVERNIGHT...AFTER THE INITIAL SURGE OF LIGHT TO MODERATE RAINFALL THIS EVENING. THEREFORE...WILL TREND LIKELY POPS SOUTHWARD THROUGH THE EVENING AND OVERNIGHT HOURS. NORTHERN AREAS MAY ACTUALLY HAVE SOME THIN SPOTS IN THE CLOUDS DEVELOP AT TIMES OVERNIGHT...WHICH COULD ALLOW FOR COOLER TEMPS...AND SOME PATCHY FOG. HAVE GENERALLY SIDED WITH A MAV/MET MOS BLEND...WHICH WERE FAIRLY CLOSE IN MOST AREAS. WED-WED NT...MAIN FORCING MECHANISMS FOR LIFT SHOULD MOVE S AND E OF REGION WED MORNING. IN THEIR WAKE...VERY LITTLE IN THE WAY OF DYNAMICS WILL REMAIN. HOWEVER...LOW LEVEL MOISTURE AND WEAK LOW LEVEL ISENTROPIC LIFT SHOULD PERSIST...AND MAY ACTUALLY INTENSIFY WED NT. THEREFORE...WILL KEEP SOME SLIGHT CHC POPS FOR WED AFTERNOON ACROSS SOUTHERN AREAS...THEN EXPAND POPS NORTHWARD...AND INCLUDE CHC POPS ACROSS THE EASTERN CATSKILLS. THIS WILL BE FOR LIGHT RAIN SHOWERS AND AREAS OF DRIZZLE IN THE PERSISTENT LOW LEVEL ISENTROPIC LIFT...AND WELL AS FOR THE INTERACTION OF THE HIGHER TERRAIN WITH THE MOIST AND LIGHT SE FLOW. FOR TEMPS...SIDED CLOSER TO THE COOLER MET MOS AGAIN FOR WED...WITH MAINLY 55-60 EXPECTED IN MOST AREAS DUE TO CLOUDS AND SOME LIGHT RAIN/DRIZZLE. FOR WED NT...SIDED CLOSER TO THE WARMER MET MOS...DUE TO EXPECTED CLOUD COVER...WITH WIDESPREAD 40S TO LOWER 50S. THU-THU NT...DESPITE STRONGLY RISING MID AND UPPER TROPOSPHERIC HEIGHTS...A PERSISTENT MOIST SE FLOW MAY ACT TO KEEP LOW CLOUDS AND SOME SPOTTY DRIZZLE FAIRLY PERSISTENT THROUGH THIS PERIOD. HAVE THEREFORE SIDED CLOSER TO THE COOLER MET MOS...WITH GENERALLY 60-65 EXPECTED FOR MAXES...AND 40S TO LOWER 50S FOR MINS. && .LONG TERM /FRIDAY THROUGH MONDAY/... NOT A WHOLE LOT OF CHANGE TO THE LONG RANGE FORECAST WITH LOTS OF SPREAD IN THE GUIDANCE AS TO HOW A POTENTIAL STORM ALONG THE EAST COAST OF THE U.S EVOLVES. THE FIRST PART OF THE LONG RANGE FORECAST...FRIDAY AND SATURDAY...LOOKS QUIET...WITH DRY WEATHER... INCREASING CLOUD COVER AND HIGH TEMPERATURES IN THE 60S TO AROUND 70. THERE COULD BE SOME ISOLATED SHOWERS ADVANCING INTO WESTERN AREAS SATURDAY AFTERNOON DEPENDING ON THE TIMING OF THE APPROACH OF A STRONG NORTHERN STREAM SYSTEM FROM THE MIDWEST AND GREAT LAKES. THIS NORTHERN STREAM SYSTEM...COMBINED WITH HIGH AMPLITUDE UPPER RIDGING JUST OFF THE CANADIAN COAST...IS PREDICTED TO INFLUENCE THE MOVEMENT OF THE TROPICAL SYSTEM CURRENTLY DEVELOPING IN THE CARIBBEAN. DECENT CONSENSUS THAT THESE UPPER FEATURES WILL INTERACT WITH THE TROPICAL SYSTEM...SUPPORTING NORTHWARD MOVEMENT. HOWEVER...THE EXACT POSITION OF THESE STEERING FEATURES WILL DETERMINE WHETHER THE STORM IMPACTS THE EASTERN U.S. OR STAYS MAINLY OUT TO SEA. SO...THE RANGE OF POSSIBLE IMPACTS IS STILL ANYWHERE FROM NO IMPACT TO A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT...BUT AN EXTREMELY UNUSUAL UPPER PATTERN CONFIGURATION AND STORM TRACK WOULD BE REQUIRED FOR THE WORST CASE SCENARIO OF HEAVY RAIN AND WINDS IN EASTERN AND NORTHERN NY AND WESTERN NEW ENGLAND. STILL AT THE WAIT AND SEE STAGE FOR THIS POTENTIAL SYSTEM...WHICH AGAIN COULD HAVE MINIMAL IMPACT OR SIGNIFICANT IMPACT OR SOMETHING IN BETWEEN. EVEN THE GUIDANCE THAT KEEPS THE STORM WELL OFFSHORE SHOWS OUR REGION IN THE RIGHT ENTRANCE REGION OF A STRONG UPPER JET SEGMENT AND DECENT BOUNDARY LAYER THERMAL GRADIENT ALONG A COLD FRONT... ASSOCIATED WITH THE ADVANCING NORTHERN STREAM SYSTEM THAT COULD BE GOING NEGATIVE TILT AND TRENDING TOWARD BECOMING A CUT OFF UPPER LOW. SO EVEN IF WE DO NOT SEE A DIRECT IMPACT FROM THE STORM...SOME ENHANCED RAINFALL ALONG THE COLD FRONT...AND WITHIN THE REGION OF STRONG UPPER DYNAMICS...COULD OCCUR SATURDAY NIGHT THROUGH MONDAY. JUST INDICATING CLOUDY WITH CHANCES OF RAIN SATURDAY NIGHT THROUGH MONDAY WITH HIGHS IN THE MID 50S TO LOWER 60S SUNDAY AND UPPER 40S TO MID 50S MONDAY. && .AVIATION /12Z TUESDAY THROUGH SATURDAY/... SOME HIGH THIN CLOUDS ARE SPREADING ACROSS THE REGION AHEAD OF AN UPPER LEVEL SYSTEM IN THE GREAT LAKES AND VFR CONDITIONS SHOULD PREVAIL THROUGH THIS MORNING. THE SYSTEM IN THE GREAT LAKES SHOULD TRACK ACROSS OUR REGION THROUGH THE DAY AND EVENING. AN AREA OF LIGHT RAIN SHOULD TRACK ACROSS CENTRAL AND SOUTHERN AREAS FROM ABOUT 17Z THROUGH ABOUT 01Z. THE NORTHERN PERIPHERY OF THE STEADIER RAIN SHOULD BE ABOUT KALB AND KPSF. HOWEVER...PUTTING VCSH IN KGFL. SOME TEMPO MVFR CEILINGS AND VISIBILITIES ARE POSSIBLE DURING THE RAIN AT KALB...KPSF ANDK POU THIS AFTERNOON ADN EARLY EVENING. THE EXACT END OF THE RAIN IS UNKNOWN BUT KEPT VCSH THROUGH 06Z AT ALL SITES UNTIL THE EXACT TIMING OF THE EXIT OF THE RAIN IS KNOWN. WINDS SHOULD BE LIGHT EAST TO NORTHEAST AT 5 KT OR LESS TROUGH THE TAF PERIOD ENDING AT 06Z TOMORROW. OUTLOOK... TUE...MAINLY VFR. CHANCES -SHRA INCREASING AS THE DAY PROGRESSES WITH THE BEST CHANCE AT KPOU. TUE NIGHT-WED...VFR/MVFR. CHC -SHRA ESPECIALLY SOUTH OF KALB. THU-FRI...VFR. NO SIG WX. SAT...VFR. SLGT CHC -SHRA. && .FIRE WEATHER... FIRE WEATHER RELATED CONCERNS SHOULD REMAIN MINIMAL OVER THE NEXT 3 DAYS DUE TO LIGHT WINDS AND PERSISTENT HIGH RELATIVE HUMIDITIES. REFER TO LATEST FWFALY FOR MORE SPECIFIC DETAILS. && .HYDROLOGY... RAINFALL AMTS SHOULD GENERALLY BE ONE QUARTER...TO ONE HALF OF AN INCH FOR AREAS NEAR AND TO THE SOUTH/WEST OF THE GREATER CAPITAL REGION THROUGH THURSDAY...WITH LESS THAN ONE QUARTER OF AN INCH TO THE NORTH AND EAST. SOME MINOR...WITHIN BANK RISES ARE POSSIBLE FOR AREAS WHERE RAINFALL AMTS REACH ONE HALF INCH OR GREATER...SUCH AS ON THE ESOPUS...RONDOUT AND SCHOHARIE CREEKS. GENERALLY DRY CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED FOR LATE THURSDAY THROUGH AT LEAST EARLY SATURDAY. && .ALY WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... CT...NONE. NY...NONE. MA...NONE. VT...NONE. && $$ SYNOPSIS...KL NEAR TERM...KL SHORT TERM...KL LONG TERM...NAS AVIATION...NAS FIRE WEATHER...KL HYDROLOGY...KL
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS ALBANY NY
454 AM EDT TUE OCT 23 2012 .SYNOPSIS... A WARM FRONT WILL APPROACH FROM THE SOUTHWEST TODAY AND TONIGHT...AS A WEAK WAVE OF LOW PRESSURE TRAVELS ALONG IT. THIS WILL BRING CLOUDS AND SOME RAIN TO THE REGION THROUGH WEDNESDAY MORNING...WITH THE BEST CHANCE OF RAIN EXPECTED FROM THE GREATER CAPITAL REGION AND AREAS SOUTH AND WEST. TEMPERATURES WILL REMAIN SOMEWHAT COOL DUE TO CLOUDS AND RAIN THROUGH WEDNESDAY...BEFORE GRADUALLY WARMING FOR THE END OF THE WEEK. && .NEAR TERM /UNTIL 6 PM THIS EVENING/... AS OF 445 AM EDT...HIGH CLOUDS ARE GRADUALLY INCREASING ACROSS THE REGION...WITH MID LEVEL CLOUDS SLOWLY APPROACHING FROM THE WEST. TEMPS HAVE DROPPED INTO THE UPPER 30S TO LOWER 40S IN MOST VALLEYS...WITH MID 30S ACROSS PORTIONS OF THE SOUTHERN ADIRONDACKS. CLOUDS WILL CONTINUE TO INCREASE/THICKEN FROM W TO E THROUGH MID MORNING. SOME SUNSHINE MAY BE DIMLY VISIBLE AT TIMES UNTIL THEN...ESP FOR AREAS E OF THE HUDSON RIVER VALLEY...AND INTO SOUTHERN VT. AS ONE SHORTWAVE...CURRENTLY OVER LOWER MICHIGAN...TRANSLATES EASTWARD TODAY...INCREASING ISENTROPIC LIFT TO THE EAST OF THIS FEATURE SHOULD ALLOW RAIN TO EXPAND INTO WESTERN AND SOUTHERN PORTIONS OF THE REGION BY MID TO LATE MORNING. 00Z/23 MODELS AND 03Z/SREFS HAVE TRENDED FURTHER NORTH WITH THE EXPECTED RAIN SHIELD WITH THIS SYSTEM...AND THIS IS FURTHER SUPPORTED BY RECENT UPSTREAM RADAR TRENDS...AS WELL AS THE LATEST HRRR MODEL. THEREFORE...HAVE RAISED POPS INTO THE LIKELY RANGE FOR CENTRAL AND SOUTHERN PORTIONS OF THE REGION...FOR THIS AFTERNOON/EVENING...WITH THE NORTHERN EDGE OF LIKELY POPS JUST N OF SARATOGA...AND INTO EXTREME SW VT. IT IS POSSIBLE THAT THIS INITIAL SURGE OF RAINFALL WEAKENS A BIT UPON MOVING FURTHER E INTO OUR REGION...AS IT OUTRUNS THE BEST LOW LEVEL MOISTURE TRANSPORT CURRENTLY FEEDING INTO IT FROM THE OHIO VALLEY REGION. HOWEVER...RENEWED SHOWERS/RAIN WILL LIKELY DEVELOP ON THE NORTHERN PERIPHERY OF THE SHORTWAVE AS IT TRANSLATES NEAR OR JUST S/W OF THE CAPITAL REGION LATER THIS AFTERNOON OR EARLY THIS EVENING. RAINFALL AMTS SHOULD BE GENERALLY LIGHT TO MODERATE...WITH AN AREA OF ONE QUARTER...TO ONE HALF INCH EXPECTED JUST S/W OF THE CAPITAL REGION...ACROSS THE SCHOHARIE VALLEY AND CATSKILLS. SOMEWHAT HIGHER AMTS ARE POSSIBLE WITHIN ANY EMBEDDED BANDS THAT DEVELOP...AS MID LEVEL FRONTOGENETICAL FORCING INCREASES LATER THIS AFTERNOON. SOME WEAK ELEVATED INSTABILITY WILL PASS ACROSS SOUTHERN AREAS LATER THIS AFTERNOON...WHICH COULD SUPPORT A FEW RUMBLES OF THUNDER. HOWEVER...OVERALL ELEVATED INSTABILITY LOOKS MUCH WEAKER THAN WHAT OCCURRED UPSTREAM DURING THE OVERNIGHT HOURS WHERE SOME CG LIGHTNING STRIKES WERE NOTED. SO...HAVE KEPT OUT MENTION OF THUNDER AT THIS TIME. FOR TEMPS...GIVEN THE EXPECTED INCREASE IN CLOUD COVER AND EVENTUAL RAIN...HAVE SIDED CLOSER TO THE COOLER MET MOS IN MOST AREAS...WITH MID TO UPPER 50S EXPECTED FOR MAX TEMPS. GIVEN INITIAL DEWPOINTS IN THE LOWER 40S...WET BULB COOLING MAY ACTUALLY ALLOW TEMPS TO FALL ONCE THE RAIN DEVELOPS LATER THIS MORNING INTO THE AFTERNOON. SHOULD THE RAIN DEVELOP ANY SOONER...EVEN COOLER MAX TEMPS WOULD BE POSSIBLE. && .SHORT TERM /6 PM THIS EVENING THROUGH THURSDAY NIGHT/... TONIGHT...THE FIRST SHORTWAVE SHOULD TRANSLATE E/SE ACROSS THE SOUTHERN HALF OF THE REGION THIS EVENING. THEN...A SECOND SHORTWAVE SHOULD APPROACH SOUTHERN AREAS CLOSER TO DAYBREAK. THIS SHOULD FAVOR SOUTHERN AREAS FOR THE BEST CHC FOR RAIN OVERNIGHT...AFTER THE INITIAL SURGE OF LIGHT TO MODERATE RAINFALL THIS EVENING. THEREFORE...WILL TREND LIKELY POPS SOUTHWARD THROUGH THE EVENING AND OVERNIGHT HOURS. NORTHERN AREAS MAY ACTUALLY HAVE SOME THIN SPOTS IN THE CLOUDS DEVELOP AT TIMES OVERNIGHT...WHICH COULD ALLOW FOR COOLER TEMPS...AND SOME PATCHY FOG. HAVE GENERALLY SIDED WITH A MAV/MET MOS BLEND...WHICH WERE FAIRLY CLOSE IN MOST AREAS. WED-WED NT...MAIN FORCING MECHANISMS FOR LIFT SHOULD MOVE S AND E OF REGION WED MORNING. IN THEIR WAKE...VERY LITTLE IN THE WAY OF DYNAMICS WILL REMAIN. HOWEVER...LOW LEVEL MOISTURE AND WEAK LOW LEVEL ISENTROPIC LIFT SHOULD PERSIST...AND MAY ACTUALLY INTENSIFY WED NT. THEREFORE...WILL KEEP SOME SLIGHT CHC POPS FOR WED AFTERNOON ACROSS SOUTHERN AREAS...THEN EXPAND POPS NORTHWARD...AND INCLUDE CHC POPS ACROSS THE EASTERN CATSKILLS. THIS WILL BE FOR LIGHT RAIN SHOWERS AND AREAS OF DRIZZLE IN THE PERSISTENT LOW LEVEL ISENTROPIC LIFT...AND WELL AS FOR THE INTERACTION OF THE HIGHER TERRAIN WITH THE MOIST AND LIGHT SE FLOW. FOR TEMPS...SIDED CLOSER TO THE COOLER MET MOS AGAIN FOR WED...WITH MAINLY 55-60 EXPECTED IN MOST AREAS DUE TO CLOUDS AND SOME LIGHT RAIN/DRIZZLE. FOR WED NT...SIDED CLOSER TO THE WARMER MET MOS...DUE TO EXPECTED CLOUD COVER...WITH WIDESPREAD 40S TO LOWER 50S. THU-THU NT...DESPITE STRONGLY RISING MID AND UPPER TROPOSPHERIC HEIGHTS...A PERSISTENT MOIST SE FLOW MAY ACT TO KEEP LOW CLOUDS AND SOME SPOTTY DRIZZLE FAIRLY PERSISTENT THROUGH THIS PERIOD. HAVE THEREFORE SIDED CLOSER TO THE COOLER MET MOS...WITH GENERALLY 60-65 EXPECTED FOR MAXES...AND 40S TO LOWER 50S FOR MINS. && .LONG TERM /FRIDAY THROUGH MONDAY/... NOT A WHOLE LOT OF CHANGE TO THE LONG RANGE FORECAST WITH LOTS OF SPREAD IN THE GUIDANCE AS TO HOW A POTENTIAL STORM ALONG THE EAST COAST OF THE U.S EVOLVES. THE FIRST PART OF THE LONG RANGE FORECAST...FRIDAY AND SATURDAY...LOOKS QUIET...WITH DRY WEATHER... INCREASING CLOUD COVER AND HIGH TEMPERATURES IN THE 60S TO AROUND 70. THERE COULD BE SOME ISOLATED SHOWERS ADVANCING INTO WESTERN AREAS SATURDAY AFTERNOON DEPENDING ON THE TIMING OF THE APPROACH OF A STRONG NORTHERN STREAM SYSTEM FROM THE MIDWEST AND GREAT LAKES. THIS NORTHERN STREAM SYSTEM...COMBINED WITH HIGH AMPLITUDE UPPER RIDGING JUST OFF THE CANADIAN COAST...IS PREDICTED TO INFLUENCE THE MOVEMENT OF THE TROPICAL SYSTEM CURRENTLY DEVELOPING IN THE CARIBBEAN. DECENT CONSENSUS THAT THESE UPPER FEATURES WILL INTERACT WITH THE TROPICAL SYSTEM...SUPPORTING NORTHWARD MOVEMENT. HOWEVER...THE EXACT POSITION OF THESE STEERING FEATURES WILL DETERMINE WHETHER THE STORM IMPACTS THE EASTERN U.S. OR STAYS MAINLY OUT TO SEA. SO...THE RANGE OF POSSIBLE IMPACTS IS STILL ANYWHERE FROM NO IMPACT TO A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT...BUT AN EXTREMELY UNUSUAL UPPER PATTERN CONFIGURATION AND STORM TRACK WOULD BE REQUIRED FOR THE WORST CASE SCENARIO OF HEAVY RAIN AND WINDS IN EASTERN AND NORTHERN NY AND WESTERN NEW ENGLAND. STILL AT THE WAIT AND SEE STAGE FOR THIS POTENTIAL SYSTEM...WHICH AGAIN COULD HAVE MINIMAL IMPACT OR SIGNIFICANT IMPACT OR SOMETHING IN BETWEEN. EVEN THE GUIDANCE THAT KEEPS THE STORM WELL OFFSHORE SHOWS OUR REGION IN THE RIGHT ENTRANCE REGION OF A STRONG UPPER JET SEGMENT AND DECENT BOUNDARY LAYER THERMAL GRADIENT ALONG A COLD FRONT... ASSOCIATED WITH THE ADVANCING NORTHERN STREAM SYSTEM THAT COULD BE GOING NEGATIVE TILT AND TRENDING TOWARD BECOMING A CUT OFF UPPER LOW. SO EVEN IF WE DO NOT SEE A DIRECT IMPACT FROM THE STORM...SOME ENHANCED RAINFALL ALONG THE COLD FRONT...AND WITHIN THE REGION OF STRONG UPPER DYNAMICS...COULD OCCUR SATURDAY NIGHT THROUGH MONDAY. JUST INDICATING CLOUDY WITH CHANCES OF RAIN SATURDAY NIGHT THROUGH MONDAY WITH HIGHS IN THE MID 50S TO LOWER 60S SUNDAY AND UPPER 40S TO MID 50S MONDAY. && .AVIATION /09Z TUESDAY THROUGH SATURDAY/... SOME HIGH THIN CLOUDS ARE SPREADING ACROSS THE REGION AHEAD OF AN UPPER LEVEL SYSTEM IN THE GREAT LAKES AND VFR CONDITIONS SHOULD PREVAIL THROUGH THIS MORNING. THE SYSTEM IN THE GREAT LAKES SHOULD TRACK ACROSS OUR REGION THROUGH THE DAY AND EVENING. AN AREA OF LIGHT RAIN SHOULD TRACK ACROSS CENTRAL AND SOUTHERN AREAS FROM ABOUT 17Z THROUGH ABOUT 01Z. THE NORTHERN PERIPHERY OF THE STEADIER RAIN SHOULD BE ABOUT KALB AND KPSF. HOWEVER...PUTTING VCSH IN KGFL. SOME TEMPO MVFR CEILINGS AND VISIBILITIES ARE POSSIBLE DURING THE RAIN AT KALB...KPSF ANDK POU THIS AFTERNOON ADN EARLY EVENING. THE EXACT END OF THE RAIN IS UNKNOWN BUT KEPT VCSH THROUGH 06Z AT ALL SITES UNTIL THE EXACT TIMING OF THE EXIT OF THE RAIN IS KNOWN. WINDS SHOULD BE LIGHT EAST TO NORTHEAST AT 5 KT OR LESS TROUGH THE TAF PERIOD ENDING AT 06Z TOMORROW. OUTLOOK... TUE...MAINLY VFR. CHANCES -SHRA INCREASING AS THE DAY PROGRESSES WITH THE BEST CHANCE AT KPOU. TUE NIGHT-WED...VFR/MVFR. CHC -SHRA ESPECIALLY SOUTH OF KALB. THU-FRI...VFR. NO SIG WX. SAT...VFR. SLGT CHC -SHRA. && .FIRE WEATHER... FIRE WEATHER RELATED CONCERNS SHOULD REMAIN MINIMAL OVER THE NEXT 3 DAYS DUE TO LIGHT WINDS AND PERSISTENT HIGH RELATIVE HUMIDITIES. REFER TO LATEST FWFALY FOR MORE SPECIFIC DETAILS. && .HYDROLOGY... RAINFALL AMTS SHOULD GENERALLY BE ONE QUARTER...TO ONE HALF OF AN INCH FOR AREAS NEAR AND TO THE SOUTH/WEST OF THE GREATER CAPITAL REGION THROUGH THURSDAY...WITH LESS THAN ONE QUARTER OF AN INCH TO THE NORTH AND EAST. SOME MINOR...WITHIN BANK RISES ARE POSSIBLE FOR AREAS WHERE RAINFALL AMTS REACH ONE HALF INCH OR GREATER...SUCH AS ON THE ESOPUS...RONDOUT AND SCHOHARIE CREEKS. GENERALLY DRY CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED FOR LATE THURSDAY THROUGH AT LEAST EARLY SATURDAY. && .ALY WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... CT...NONE. NY...NONE. MA...NONE. VT...NONE. && $$ SYNOPSIS...KL NEAR TERM...KL SHORT TERM...KL LONG TERM...NAS AVIATION...NAS FIRE WEATHER...KL HYDROLOGY...KL
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS LINCOLN IL
1211 PM CDT TUE OCT 23 2012 .DISCUSSION... ISSUED 1036 AM CDT TUE OCT 23 2012 HAVE MADE TWEEKS TO TEMPS TODAY AND ADDED CHC POPS IN SOUTHEAST FOR EARLY THIS AFTERNOON. SHORTWAVE MOVING THROUGH AREA CURRENTLY IS ENHANCING PCPN COVERAGE AND INTENSITY...PARTICULARLY SOUTHEAST HALF OF FORECAST AREA. WAVE SHOULD MOVE PAST AREA EARLY THIS AFTERNOON AND SHORTWAVE RIDGING SHOULD BUILD HEIGHTS AND ALLOW FOR SIGNIFICANT SUBSIDENCE TO BRING AN END TO PCPN AND SOME BREAKS IN CLOUDS. THE SLOWEST AREA OF IMPROVEMENT WILL LIKELY BE IN THE SOUTHEAST WHERE REMNANT PCPN MAY LINGER AS AREA OF SHOWERS FORMED AT NOSE OF LOW- LEVEL JET IN ERN MISSOURI MOVES EAST. ELSEWHERE...CAPPING SHOULD INHIBIT ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT. BREAKS IN CLOUDS SHOULD ALLOW TEMPS TO RESPOND. TEMPS ACROSS SOUTHERN ILLINOIS ALREADY NEAR 70F AND WITH SOME SUN AND SOUTH WINDS ADVECTING IN WARMER TEMPS...70S STILL LIKELY. && .AVIATION... ISSUED 1159 AM CDT TUE OCT 23 2012 SUBSIDENCE BEHIND SHORTWAVE MOVING THROUGH ILLINOIS AT PRESENT SHOULD DIMINISH REMAINING PRECIP THIS AFTERNOON AND ALLOW FOR ADDITIONAL BREAKS IN IFR CIGS. HOWEVER...ABUNDANT MOISTURE EVIDENT IN MVFR OVERCAST TO WEST WILL LIKELY PUSH EAST OVERNIGHT IMPACTING CENTRAL ILLINOIS TERMINALS. WILL BRING IN MVFR CIGS AND LINGER UNTIL MIXING ALLOWS SOME LIFTING MIDMORNING WEDNESDAY. WITH SOME PARTIAL CLEARING...SOUTH WINDS WILL LIKELY DEVELOP SOME GUSTING LATE THIS AFTERNOON. SOME GUSTING WILL ONCE AGAIN DEVELOP WITH LIFTING CIGS ON WEDNESDAY MORNING. BARKER && .PREV DISCUSSION... ISSUED 310 AM CDT TUE OCT 23 2012 WARM FRONT CURRENTLY LOCATED OVER NORTHERN ILLINOIS...ROUGHLY ALONG THE I-80 CORRIDOR. HAVE BEEN SEEING SHOWERS AND STORMS INCREASING ACROSS WESTERN ILLINOIS AND ESPECIALLY OVER MISSOURI...AS AN UPPER WAVE MOVES INTO THE AREA AND AN APPARENT MESOSCALE VORTEX TRACKS ACROSS MISSOURI PER WATER VAPOR IMAGERY. INITIAL FORECAST CONCERN INVOLVES CONVECTIVE TRENDS FOR PRIMARILY THIS MORNING...ALONG WITH ITS EFFECTS ON TEMPERATURES. IN THE LONGER RANGE...THE TIMING OF A STRONG COLD FRONT ON THURSDAY REMAINS AN ISSUE...ALONG WITH RAIN TRENDS THURSDAY AND FRIDAY. SHORT TERM...TODAY THROUGH THURSDAY NIGHT... LATEST HRRR DOING A REASONABLE JOB WITH THE CONVECTION OVER MISSOURI...AND IT CONTINUES TO INCREASE THE RAIN OVER MOST OF THE CWA THROUGH EARLY MORNING. AS SUCH...HAVE RAMPED UP RAIN CHANCES TO THE LIKELY RANGE IN MOST AREAS...PRIMARILY ALONG AND EAST OF I-55. ANY LINGERING RAIN SHOULD BE TAPERING OFF EARLY IN THE AFTERNOON. THE CONVECTION YESTERDAY REALLY THREW OFF THE HIGH TEMPERATURE FORECAST...AND WILL HAVE TO KEEP THAT POTENTIAL IN MIND FOR TODAY...ESPECIALLY IF CLOUDS ARE SLOW TO MOVE OUT. HAVE LOWERED HIGHS FOR TODAY BY A FEW DEGREES IN MOST AREAS...CLOSER TO A MET/MAV BLEND. HOWEVER...HAVE KEPT HIGHS NEAR 80 DEGREES ON WEDNESDAY AND OVER THE EASTERN 2/3 OF THE CWA ON THURSDAY AS WELL. UPPER WAVE CURRENTLY OVER THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST IS EXPECTED TO FORM A CLOSED LOW AS IT MOVES NORTHEAST TO THE CANADIAN PRAIRIES BY EARLY WEDNESDAY. 50-70 KNOT JET AT 500 MB WILL FOLLOW A WAVE SLIDING ALONG THE SOUTHERN JET STREAM TO FEED INTO THE AREA AHEAD OF THE COLD FRONT. LATEST MODEL GUIDANCE BRINGS THE FRONT INTO THE NORTHWESTERN CWA THURSDAY AFTERNOON...AND ENTERING THE SOUTHEAST CWA TOWARD MIDNIGHT. A NARROW WINDOW OF OPPORTUNITY EXISTS FOR SOME STRONGER STORMS AHEAD OF THE FRONT THURSDAY AFTERNOON... ALTHOUGH RAPIDLY INCREASING CLOUDS MAY THWART THIS POTENTIAL. HOWEVER...THE RAIN WILL BE ON THE INCREASE...AND HAVE INTRODUCED LIKELY POPS NORTHWEST OF THE ILLINOIS RIVER DURING THE AFTERNOON. WITH THE BULK OF THE RAIN BEHIND THE FRONT...WILL SPREAD THE LIKELY POPS FROM WEST TO EAST...WITH THE RAIN DIMINISHING WEST OF I-55 AFTER MIDNIGHT. LONG TERM...FRIDAY THROUGH MONDAY... MODELS HAVE BEEN BACKING OFF ON THE IDEA OF A SECONDARY WAVE FEEDING THE AREA BEHIND THE FRONT...WITH THE 00Z ECMWF THE ONLY ONE STILL WITH THIS GENERAL TREND. WILL DROP THE RAIN CHANCES NORTHWEST OF THE ILLINOIS RIVER ON FRIDAY AND FRIDAY NIGHT...AND LOWER THEM QUITE A BIT FURTHER EAST. HOWEVER...THE GFS AND CANADIAN MODELS WOULD SUGGEST COMPLETELY DRY CONDITIONS BY EARLY FRIDAY EVENING EVERYWHERE...SO WILL NEED TO SEE IF THIS TREND CONTINUES. HAVE REMOVED THE RAIN ON SATURDAY ASIDE FROM SOME SLIGHT CHANCES EAST OF I-57...MAINLY DURING THE MORNING. WEEKEND TREND STILL LOOKS QUITE CHILLY...WITH HIGHS IN MANY AREAS STRUGGLING TO REACH THE 50 DEGREE MARK. SUB-FREEZING LOWS ARE EXPECTED ALONG AND WEST OF I-55 BY SUNDAY MORNING. BEYOND THAT...THE FORECAST TRENDS BECOME COMPLICATED BY A TROPICAL SYSTEM MOVING NORTHWARD OFF THE EAST COAST. ECMWF MODEL IS MORE AFFECTED AND FORMS A CUTOFF LOW OVER THE GREAT LAKES...LINGERING THE CHILLY WEATHER INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK...WHEREAS THE GFS IS MORE PROGRESSIVE AND MILDER. NEITHER SOLUTION CURRENTLY YIELDS ANY PRECIPITATION FOR OUR AREA SUNDAY AND MONDAY. GEELHART && .ILX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... NONE. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS CHICAGO/ROMEOVILLE IL
1141 AM CDT TUE OCT 23 2012 .DISCUSSION... 858 AM CDT UPDATED GRIDS AND ZFP HAVE BEEN SENT WITH SIGNIFICANT CHANGES TO FIRST PERIOD. MORNING WATER VAPOR IMAGERY SHOWS A WELL DEFINED SHORTWAVE TROUGH MOVING EASTWARD OVER IA/MO. SCATTERED SHOWERS AND ISOLATED THUNDERSTORMS LIKELY TO CONTINUE TO PERCOLATE IN THE VERY MOIST AIRMASS OUT AHEAD OF THIS SHORTWAVE. MAJORITY OF THE ASCENT WITH THIS WAVE SHOULD BE EAST OF THE CWA BY LATE AFTERNOON WITH SHOWER AND THUNDERSTORM COVERAGE EXPECTED TO DECREASE TOWARD EVENING. HAVE BUMPED UP SKY COVER CONSIDERABLY TODAY WITH NO HOPE OF SEEING ANY BREAKS IN THE OVERCAST UNTIL THIS SHORTWAVE PASSES EAST OF THE AREA LATE THIS AFTERNOON. EVEN THEN ONCE THE MID/HIGH LEVEL MOISTURE CLEARS OUT THINKING ITS VERY LIKELY STRATUS DECK WILL STICK AROUND AS OUR LATE OCTOBER SUN ANGLE IS ROUGHLY THE SAME AS EARLY FEBRUARY AND WITH SUCH LATE CLEARING OF HIGH CLOUDS AND VERY MOIST LOW LEVELS THINK IT WILL BE TOO LITTLE TOO LATE FOR THE SUN TO EAT AWAY AT THE STRATUS. IN FACT...THERE IS A VERY REAL CHANCE THAT STRATUS COULD STICK AROUND TONIGHT INTO TOMORROW MORNING AS WELL AND HAVE BUMPED UP SKY GRIDS SOME TONIGHT. AFTERNOON FORECAST MAY NEED TO CONSIDER ADJUSTING SKY COVER UP FURTHER TONIGHT INTO TOMORROW. GIVEN THE ANTICIPATED THICK OVERCAST MOST OF TODAY HAVE TAKEN A HATCHET TO THE GOING HIGH TEMPERATURE FORECAST. GENERALLY WOULD EXPECT TEMPS TO REMAIN NEARLY STEADY MOST OF THE DAY IN THE LOW TO MID 60S...WITH A COUPLE/FEW DEGREE TEMP RISE POSSIBLE LATE THIS AFTERNOON...ESPECIALLY FAR WESTERN CWA WHICH COULD POSSIBLY MAKE A RUN AT 70 DEGREES STILL. IZZI //PREV DISCUSSION... 326 AM CDT EARLY THIS MORNING THE FRONTAL BOUNDARY HAS STALLED ACROSS THE IL/WI STATELINE. TO THE NORTH OF THE BOUNDARY TEMPS HAVE HELD IN THE MID/UPR 50S WITH DEW PTS IN THE LOW/MID 50S WITH AREAS OF DENSE FOG. SOUTH OF THE BOUNDARY TEMPS HAVE REMAINED VERY MILD FOR MID OCTOBER IN THE 60S...ALONG WITH ANOMALOUSLY HIGH DEW PTS OF AROUND 60. IR IMAGERY EARLY THIS MORNING DEPICTED THE LEADING EDGE OF HIGH BASED CLOUDS FLOATING NORTH ALONG A CENTRAL IOWA...NORTHERN IL...TO FAR SOUTHWEST LOWER MICHIGAN LINE. THIS AREA OF HIGH CLOUDS AND VERY MOIST AIRMASS WAS ASSOCIATED WITH AN ELEVATED SHORTWAVE LIFTING NORTHEAST ACROSS SOUTHWEST MISSOURI. SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS HAVE BEEN STEADILY GROWING IN COVERAGE ACROSS MISSOURI...AND BASED ON CURRENT TRAJECTORIES THE LEADING PRECIP SHOULD ARRIVE ALONG THE SOUTHWEST CWFA AROUND DAYBREAK. THEN STEADILY LIFT NORTHEAST ACROSS THE REMAINING CWFA BY MID-MORNING. CURRENT GUIDANCE INDICATES CAPE OF AROUND 500-750J/KG IN THE 15-18 TIMEFRAME...WHICH APPEARS TO BE THE HIGHEST CONFIDENCE TIMING FOR CONVECTION TO OCCUR. SO HAVE CARRIED LIKELY SHRA/TSRA AT THAT TIME. AS THE ELEVATED WAVE ARRIVES ACROSS THE CWFA THIS MORNING...IT WILL REMAIN PROGRESSIVE AND ALLOW PRECIP TO DIMINISH IN COVERAGE FROM SOUTH TO NORTH ACROSS THE CWFA THIS AFTN. SUPPORTING THIS DRYING TREND WILL BE THE SLOW RISE IN HEIGHTS ALOFT...INDICATING WEAK DIFFLUENCE ALOFT. WITH REGARDS TO TEMPS TODAY...GUIDANCE IS DEMONSTRATING A HIGHER CONFIDENCE THAT TEMPS WILL EASILY WARM INTO THE 70S. THE CHALLENGE IS DETERMINE THE LOCATIONS THAT WILL WARM INTO THE MID 70S...WHICH CURRENTLY APPEARS TO BE ALONG AND SOUTH OF A ROCKFORD TO KANKAKEE LINE. THE OTHER WILDCARD FOR LOCATIONS NORTH OF THIS LINE WILL BE THE CLOUD COVER AND LINGERING PRECIP. AT THIS TIME IT APPEARS BY 21Z ALL BUT A FEW SHRA SHOULD HAVE DEPARTED THE CWFA TO THE NORTH...ALTHOUGH CLOUDS MAY STILL BE MOSTLY CLOUDY. PWAT VALUES WILL REMAIN ABOVE 1 INCH THRU THE DAY TDY...WITH A HANDFUL OF LOCATIONS RISING TO NEARLY 1.5 INCHES. THE COMBINATION OF MILD TEMPS AND HIGH MOISTURE CONTENT IN THE ATMOSPHERE WILL MAKE TODAY AND WED FEEL MORE LIKE SUMMER. SOUTHERLY FLOW WILL LINGER THROUGH THE OVERNIGHT...AND SHOULD BE JUST STRONG ENOUGH TO PREVENT DENSE FG FROM FORMING. THUS WILL ONLY MENTION PATCHY FG IN THE FORECAST TONIGHT. ANOTHER MILD NIGHT APPEARS LIKELY FOR TONIGHT WITH TEMPS ONLY COOLING INTO THE LOW 60S. A FEW GUIDANCE MEMBERS WERE WARMER THAN THIS IN THE MID 60S AT A HANDFUL OF POINTS...HOWEVER FELT THE GENERAL CONSENSUS WOULD BE AROUND 60 TO PSBLY LOW 60S. DRY WEATHER SHOULD LAST THROUGH THE OVERNIGHT HOURS AS WELL. WEDNESDAY THROUGH THURSDAY... 500MB RIDGE PUSHES OVERHEAD WITH WEAK DIFFLUENT FLOW IN THE LLVLS...SUGGESTING MUCH OF WED THRU AT LEAST DAYBREAK THUR WILL REMAIN DRY. FOR WED THIS WILL SET THE STAGE FOR A RUN AT TEMPS AROUND 80...PSBLY WARMING INTO THE LOW 80S FOR A FEW LOCATIONS WED AFTN. THE DEEPER MOISTURE WILL PEEL OFF TO THE NORTHEAST WITH THE WARM FRONTAL BOUNDARY...WHICH MAY AID IN SLIGHTLY LOWER DEW PTS AND PWAT VALUES HOVER AROUND 1 INCH WED AFTN. IF DEW PTS CAN FALL INTO THE MID/UPR 50S...THIS WOULD ALLOW THE SFC TO WARM MORE EFFICIENTLY AND ALLOW THE SFC TO EASILY REACH 80 DEG IN MANY LOCATIONS OF THE CWFA. CURRENT TEMP PLUMES FROM THE SREF AND VARIOUS OTHER GUIDANCE SOURCES...INDICATE TEMPS WED WILL BE IN THE MID/UPR 70S OVER THE FAR NORTHERN TIER OF COUNTIES IN IL. MEANWHILE FURTHER SOUTH OR SOUTH OF I-88...TEMPS COULD WARM INTO THE UPR 70S TO AROUND 80. CLOUDS WILL ALSO PLAY A ROLE...HOWEVER CURRENTLY FORECASTING P-CLOUDY CONDS WED. THEN FOR THUR AHEAD OF THE FRONTAL BNDRY...TEMPS COULD WARM AGAIN INTO THE MID/UPR 70S MAINLY FOR FAR EASTERN SECTIONS OF THE CWFA. 500MB TROUGH AXIS WILL BEGIN TO PUSH INTO THE CENTRAL PLAINS WED NGT/EARLY THUR...WITH THE MAIN VORT MAX ROUNDING THE TROUGH AXIS EARLY THUR MORNING ACROSS THE SOUTHERN PLAINS. IT APPEARS THAT THE DOWNSTREAM RIDGE WILL EXTEND FROM QUEBEC TO THE CAROLINAS...WHICH MAY ALLOW THE FRONTAL BNDRY TO SLOW SLIGHTLY. IF THE BNDRY SLOWS FURTHER...PRECIP COULD REMAIN WEST OF THE CWFA THRU THE EARLY AFTN HOURS AND ALLOW TEMPS TO BE EVEN WARMER...GIVEN THE POTENTIAL FOR COMPRESSIONAL HEATING TO OCCUR BETWEEN THE DEPARTING SFC RIDGE AND UPSTREAM TROUGH. INSTABILITY WILL DEVELOP WITH THE PASSAGE THUR AFTN...THEN SHUD STABILIZE IN THE EVENING HOURS WITH FRONTAL PASSAGE. WINDS WILL TURN NW...WITH MUCH COOLER AIR STEADILY ADVECTING ACROSS THE CWFA. THERMAL RIDGE OF 15 TO 17 DEG C AT 850MB RAPIDLY TRANSITIONS TO AROUND 5 DEG C BY 06Z FRI. FRIDAY THROUGH MONDAY... POTENT ANTI-CYCLONIC FLOW QUICKLY ARRIVES FRI...AND SHUD PUSH THE PRECIP/CLOUDS TO THE EAST ACROSS IN/MI. HOWEVER A FEW EASTERN AREAS COULD CONTINUE TO SEE A SLIGHT CHC POPS FRI. FRI APPEARS TO BE THE WARMEST DAY IN THE FINAL PERIODS OF THE EXTENDED...WITH TEMPS EXPECTED TO BE IN THE LOW 50S. THESE HIGH TEMPS MAY ACTUALLY ARRIVE EARLY IN THE DAY...AS COLD AIR CONTINUES TO POUR IN FROM THE NORTHWEST THROUGHOUT THE DAY. LAKE EFFECT CONDS DEVELOP AND BECOME OPTIMAL FRI NGT/SAT/SAT NGT FOR THE FAVORED AREAS OF NORTHWEST IN. THERMAL TROUGH OVERHEAD WILL CONTINUE TO COOL WITH 0 TO -3 DEG C AT 850MB POISED TO PUSH OVERHEAD SAT/SUN. THUS IT APPEARS TEMPS WILL STRUGGLE TO WARM BEYOND THE LOW/MID 40S. AT THIS TIME IT DOES NOT APPEAR CLOUDS WILL BE A MAJOR PLAYER. IN ADDITION DRY WEATHER SHOULD REMAIN THRU THE BULK OF THE EXTENDED...WITH THE EXCEPTION OF NORTHWEST IN. ANY LINGERING PRECIP DURING THE NOCTURNAL HOURS FRI/SAT/SUN COULD BECOME MIXED WITH SOME WET SNOW...AS TEMPS WILL BE COOLING INTO THE MID 30S EACH OF THESE NIGHTS. SAT NGT COULD BE THE COOLEST DAY AS GUIDANCE HAS INDICATED THE SFC RIDGE PUSHING OVER CENTRAL WI. THIS COULD ALLOW WINDS TO DIMINISH AND CLOUDS TO REMAIN MINIMAL...ALLOWING FOR OPTIMAL RADIATIONAL COOLING TO TAKE PLAY SAT NGT. IF THIS SCENARIO WERE TO VERIFY...TEMPS COULD EASILY BOTTOMOUT IN THE UPR 20S ACROSS THE CWFA. BEACHLER && .AVIATION... //ORD AND MDW CONCERNS...UPDATED 16Z... * IFR INTO EARLY AFTERNOON. * WIND CONTINUING TO VEER FROM SE TO S AND SSW REST OF A.M. AND EARLY THIS AFTERNOON. * SCT -SHRA TIL EARLY-MID AFTERNOON. FEW SMALL TS IN AREA. TRS //DISCUSSION...UPDATED 16Z... WARM FRONT HAS SLOWLY MOVED N DURING THE LATE MORNING AND HAD REACHED ORD AT 16Z. WITH THE WIND VEERING TO SOUTHERLY VISIBILITY AND CEILINGS HAVE IMPROVED. MDW GOT UP TO 020 THEN LOWERED BACK TO 014 AS A SHOWER JUST CLIPPED THE AIRFIELD. EXPECT CEILINGS THERE TO RISE AGAIN WITHIN NEXT HR OR SO. ADDITIONAL SHOWERS WITH A FEW HEAVIER SMALL CELLS HAVE BEEN MOVING NE INTO N CENTRAL IL WITH EXTRAPOLATION OF RECENT MOVEMENT HAVING THEM ARRIVE IN THE ORD AND MDW VC 17-18Z. NO ORGANIZATION IN THIS ACTIVITY SEEN AND MAX TOPS REMAINING AOB 250 SO HAVE ONLY INCLUDED MENTION OF VCSH AND NO TS IN TAFORS FOR THE AFTERNOON. TRS PREVIOUS DISCUSSION...UPDATED 14Z... TROUGH/WARM FRONT HAS NOT LIFTED NORTHWARD AS SOON AS MODELS EARLIER INDICATED AND EVEN LATEST AVAILABLE HI RES HRRR AND RAP PLACE IT TOO FAR N NEAR/TO WI BORDER BY 15-16Z WHICH LOOKS TO BE A COUPLE HRS TOO FAST. LIFR AND IFR EXPECTED TO PERSIST TIL BOUNDARY DOES LIFT N PAST TERMINALS AND WINDS BECOME SOUTHERLY BTWN 17Z-19Z THEN CIGS SHUD LIFT AND VSBYS IMPROVE. BETWEEN AREA OF RA AND TS MOVING ENE OVER NRN IN AND ANOTHER AREA OF MAINLY RA AND A FEW TS MOVING SLIGHTLY N OF E FM ERN MO ACROSS THE MS RIVER ARE SCT DISORGANIZED -SHRA AND ISOLD SHRA. MODELS SHOW BULK OF QPF E OF LOCAL TERMINALS BY 18Z AS UPPER TROUGH FROM NRN MO SSE TO NORTHEASTERN AR MOVES OVER AND PAST THE LOCAL AREA. MODELS DO INDICATE SPOTTY QPF 18Z-00Z BUT AMOUNTS OF ONLY A COUPLE HUNDREDTHS OF AN INCH. DO NOT SEE ANY SIGNIFICANT FORCING MECHANISMS FOR ADDITIONAL SHRA GENERATION BEYOND EARLY AFTERNOON. TRS PREVIOUS DISCUSSION...UPDATED 12Z... TWO MAIN CONCERNS/CHALLENGES...CIGS AND TSRA THIS MORNING. LIFR CIGS HAVE REMAINED LOCKED IN AND WITH CONTINUED LIGHT NORTHEAST WINDS OFF THE LAKE...EXPECT AT LEAST A FEW MORE HOURS OF LIFR CIGS UNTIL WINDS START TO TURN MORE SOUTHERLY AND CIGS LIFT. CONFIDENCE REGARDING TIMING REMAINS LOW. ONCE CIGS DO LIFT...MVFR CIGS LIKELY TO CONTINUE INTO THE EARLY/MID AFTERNOON. ONE COMPLEX OF TSRA OVER EASTERN IL/WESTERN INDIANA WILL REMAIN SOUTH OF THE TERMINALS WHILE CONVECTION OVER MISSOURI HAS WEAKENED CONSIDERABLY IN THE PAST FEW HOURS. SHORT TERM GUIDANCE STILL SUGGESTS FURTHER SHRA DEVELOPMENT ACROSS WESTERN IL THIS MORNING BUT CONFIDENCE REGARDING TSRA POTENTIAL IS DECREASING AND TRENDS WILL NEED TO BE MONITORED FOR POSSIBLE UPDATES. SOUTHERLY WINDS MAY GUST INTO THE MID TEENS THIS AFTERNOON BUT THIS WILL BE DEPENDENT ON SUNSHINE AND LOW LEVEL MIXING WHICH MAY NOT OCCUR. SOUTHERLY WINDS WILL PERSIST TONIGHT AND SHOULD BEGIN TO GUST SOME WEDNESDAY MORNING. WITH THE WARM FRONT EXPECTED TO BE WELL NORTH OF THE AREA TONIGHT...NOT EXPECTING ANY WIDESPREAD FOG OR LOW CIG PROBLEMS BUT HAVE INCLUDED SOME MVFR VIS AT RFD/DPA. //ORD AND MDW CONFIDENCE...UPDATED 16Z... * MEDIUM CONFIDENCE CIGS WILL LIFT TO ABV 020 BY EARLY AFTERNOON. * MEDIUM CONFIDENCE THAT NO ADDITIONAL TS AT/VC TERMINALS THIS AFTERNOON. * HIGH CONFIDENCE WIND DIRECTION WILL REMAIN S-SSW. * MEDIUM CONFIDENCE WINDS WILL BE IN 05-10 KT RANGE. TRS //OUTLOOK FOR ORD/MDW FOR 00Z THURSDAY-12Z TUESDAY...UPDATED 12Z... * WEDNESDAY NIGHT...VFR. * THURSDAY...STRONG/GUSTY SOUTHWEST WINDS. SHRA/TSRA THURSDAY AFTERNOON/EARLY EVENING...ALONG/AHEAD OF WIND SHIFT/COLD FRONT. * FRIDAY AND SATURDAY...SLIGHT CHANCE OF SHRA. * SUNDAY AND MONDAY...VFR. && .MARINE... 308 AM...A FRONTAL BOUNDARY HAS BECOME NEARLY STATIONARY JUST SOUTH OF LAKE MICHIGAN EARLY THIS MORNING. IT WILL BEGIN TO SLOWLY LIFT NORTH LATER TODAY AND TONIGHT AS LOW PRESSURE OVER THE NORTHERN PLAINS LIFTS NORTH INTO SOUTHERN CANADA. HOWEVER...WITH HIGH PRESSURE ACROSS ONTARIO...THE GRADIENT WILL REMAIN FAIRLY STRONG ACROSS THE NORTHERN THIRD OR QUARTER OF THE LAKE WITH EASTERLY WINDS 15-25 KTS INTO TONIGHT...SLOWLY TURNING SOUTHEAST AND WEAKENING BY WEDNESDAY MORNING. NEW LOW PRESSURE WILL DEVELOP OVER EASTERN COLORADO TONIGHT AND MOVE NORTHEAST TO NEAR LAKE SUPERIOR BY THURSDAY AFTERNOON. THE GRADIENT WILL STEADILY TIGHTEN AHEAD OF THIS FRONT WEDNESDAY NIGHT INTO THURSDAY MORNING BUT FORECAST SOUNDINGS SHOW A FAIRLY STRONG MARINE LAYER/INVERSION. BUT WINDS STILL EXPECTED TO REACH 30 KTS OR SO. WINDS WILL DIMINISH AHEAD OF THE COLD FRONT LATE THURSDAY AFTERNOON/EARLY THURSDAY EVENING THEN SHIFT OUT OF THE NORTHWEST BEHIND THE FRONT. WITH HIGH PRESSURE BUILDING ACROSS THE PLAINS...THE GRADIENT BEHIND THE FRONT WILL LIKELY SUPPORT GUSTS TO 30 KTS. COULD BE AN HOUR OR TWO OF HIGHER GUSTS WITH/JUST BEHIND THE FRONT. LIGHT WINDS ACROSS THE SOUTHERN TWO THIRDS OF THE LAKE...COMBINED WITH THE VERY MOIST LOW LEVELS WILL LIKELY LEAD TO AREAS OF FOG AND MAYBE SOME PATCHY DENSE FOG...THIS MORNING WHICH SHOULD IMPROVE AS WINDS TURN MORE SOUTHERLY. CMS && .LOT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... IL...NONE. IN...NONE. LM...DENSE FOG ADVISORY...LMZ080-LMZ366-LMZ565-LMZ567-LMZ669-LMZ671- LMZ673-LMZ675-LMZ740-LMZ741-LMZ742-LMZ743-LMZ744-LMZ745- LMZ777-LMZ779-LMZ868-LMZ870-LMZ872-LMZ874-LMZ876-LMZ878 UNTIL 10 AM WEDNESDAY. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS LINCOLN IL
1036 AM CDT TUE OCT 23 2012 .DISCUSSION... ISSUED 1036 AM CDT TUE OCT 23 2012 HAVE MADE TWEEKS TO TEMPS TODAY AND ADDED CHC POPS IN SOUTHEAST FOR EARLY THIS AFTERNOON. SHORTWAVE MOVING THROUGH AREA CURRENTLY IS ENHANCING PCPN COVERAGE AND INTENSITY...PARTICULARLY SOUTHEAST HALF OF FORECAST AREA. WAVE SHOULD MOVE PAST AREA EARLY THIS AFTERNOON AND SHORTWAVE RIDGING SHOULD BUILD HEIGHTS AND ALLOW FOR SIGNIFICANT SUBSIDENCE TO BRING AN END TO PCPN AND SOME BREAKS IN CLOUDS. THE SLOWEST AREA OF IMPROVEMENT WILL LIKELY BE IN THE SOUTHEAST WHERE REMNANT PCPN MAY LINGER AS AREA OF SHOWERS FORMED AT NOSE OF LOW- LEVEL JET IN ERN MISSOURI MOVES EAST. ELSEWHERE...CAPPING SHOULD INHIBIT ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT. BREAKS IN CLOUDS SHOULD ALLOW TEMPS TO RESPOND. TEMPS ACROSS SOUTHERN ILLINOIS ALREADY NEAR 70F AND WITH SOME SUN AND SOUTH WINDS ADVECTING IN WARMER TEMPS...70S STILL LIKELY. BARKER && .AVIATION... ISSUED 648 AM CDT TUE OCT 23 2012 WILL BE A BREAK IN THE PCPN THIS MORNING AS AREA WILL BE IN BETWEEN COMPLEXES. THE NEXT ROUND OF PCPN SHOULD REACH SPI/PIA AROUND 15Z...DEC/BMI AROUND 16Z AND THEN CMI AROUND 17Z. PCPN WILL BE MAINLY SHOWERS BUT THUNDERSTORM ARE EMBEDDED IN THE COMPLEX SO WILL ALSO HAVE A 2HR TEMPO GROUP FOR THUNDER AT EACH SITE DURING THE LATE MORNING TO EARLY AFTERNOON. PCPN COULD LINGER BEHIND THE MAIN AREA SO WILL BE KEEPING SHRA AND VCTS AT EACH SITE FOR COUPLE HOURS AFTER TEMPO GROUP. ON BACK SIDE OF PCPN WINDS SHOULD ALSO INCREASE SO WILL KEEP GUSTY WINDS DURING AFTERNOON. WINDS WILL BE SOUTHERLY THROUGH THE PERIOD. CLOUDS WILL SCATTER OUT COUPLE OF HOURS BEHIND THE SYSTEM AND THEN MOSTLY CLEAR AROUND SUNSET FOR THE EVENING. NAM TRYING TO BRING SOME SC INTO THE AREA OVERNIGHT. HOWEVER...UNSURE OF THIS SOLUTION SO WILL KEEP CLEAR FORECAST FOR THE NIGHT HOURS FOR NOW. AUTEN && .PREV DISCUSSION... ISSUED 310 AM CDT TUE OCT 23 2012 WARM FRONT CURRENTLY LOCATED OVER NORTHERN ILLINOIS...ROUGHLY ALONG THE I-80 CORRIDOR. HAVE BEEN SEEING SHOWERS AND STORMS INCREASING ACROSS WESTERN ILLINOIS AND ESPECIALLY OVER MISSOURI...AS AN UPPER WAVE MOVES INTO THE AREA AND AN APPARENT MESOSCALE VORTEX TRACKS ACROSS MISSOURI PER WATER VAPOR IMAGERY. INITIAL FORECAST CONCERN INVOLVES CONVECTIVE TRENDS FOR PRIMARILY THIS MORNING...ALONG WITH ITS EFFECTS ON TEMPERATURES. IN THE LONGER RANGE...THE TIMING OF A STRONG COLD FRONT ON THURSDAY REMAINS AN ISSUE...ALONG WITH RAIN TRENDS THURSDAY AND FRIDAY. SHORT TERM...TODAY THROUGH THURSDAY NIGHT... LATEST HRRR DOING A REASONABLE JOB WITH THE CONVECTION OVER MISSOURI...AND IT CONTINUES TO INCREASE THE RAIN OVER MOST OF THE CWA THROUGH EARLY MORNING. AS SUCH...HAVE RAMPED UP RAIN CHANCES TO THE LIKELY RANGE IN MOST AREAS...PRIMARILY ALONG AND EAST OF I-55. ANY LINGERING RAIN SHOULD BE TAPERING OFF EARLY IN THE AFTERNOON. THE CONVECTION YESTERDAY REALLY THREW OFF THE HIGH TEMPERATURE FORECAST...AND WILL HAVE TO KEEP THAT POTENTIAL IN MIND FOR TODAY...ESPECIALLY IF CLOUDS ARE SLOW TO MOVE OUT. HAVE LOWERED HIGHS FOR TODAY BY A FEW DEGREES IN MOST AREAS...CLOSER TO A MET/MAV BLEND. HOWEVER...HAVE KEPT HIGHS NEAR 80 DEGREES ON WEDNESDAY AND OVER THE EASTERN 2/3 OF THE CWA ON THURSDAY AS WELL. UPPER WAVE CURRENTLY OVER THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST IS EXPECTED TO FORM A CLOSED LOW AS IT MOVES NORTHEAST TO THE CANADIAN PRAIRIES BY EARLY WEDNESDAY. 50-70 KNOT JET AT 500 MB WILL FOLLOW A WAVE SLIDING ALONG THE SOUTHERN JET STREAM TO FEED INTO THE AREA AHEAD OF THE COLD FRONT. LATEST MODEL GUIDANCE BRINGS THE FRONT INTO THE NORTHWESTERN CWA THURSDAY AFTERNOON...AND ENTERING THE SOUTHEAST CWA TOWARD MIDNIGHT. A NARROW WINDOW OF OPPORTUNITY EXISTS FOR SOME STRONGER STORMS AHEAD OF THE FRONT THURSDAY AFTERNOON... ALTHOUGH RAPIDLY INCREASING CLOUDS MAY THWART THIS POTENTIAL. HOWEVER...THE RAIN WILL BE ON THE INCREASE...AND HAVE INTRODUCED LIKELY POPS NORTHWEST OF THE ILLINOIS RIVER DURING THE AFTERNOON. WITH THE BULK OF THE RAIN BEHIND THE FRONT...WILL SPREAD THE LIKELY POPS FROM WEST TO EAST...WITH THE RAIN DIMINISHING WEST OF I-55 AFTER MIDNIGHT. LONG TERM...FRIDAY THROUGH MONDAY... MODELS HAVE BEEN BACKING OFF ON THE IDEA OF A SECONDARY WAVE FEEDING THE AREA BEHIND THE FRONT...WITH THE 00Z ECMWF THE ONLY ONE STILL WITH THIS GENERAL TREND. WILL DROP THE RAIN CHANCES NORTHWEST OF THE ILLINOIS RIVER ON FRIDAY AND FRIDAY NIGHT...AND LOWER THEM QUITE A BIT FURTHER EAST. HOWEVER...THE GFS AND CANADIAN MODELS WOULD SUGGEST COMPLETELY DRY CONDITIONS BY EARLY FRIDAY EVENING EVERYWHERE...SO WILL NEED TO SEE IF THIS TREND CONTINUES. HAVE REMOVED THE RAIN ON SATURDAY ASIDE FROM SOME SLIGHT CHANCES EAST OF I-57...MAINLY DURING THE MORNING. WEEKEND TREND STILL LOOKS QUITE CHILLY...WITH HIGHS IN MANY AREAS STRUGGLING TO REACH THE 50 DEGREE MARK. SUB-FREEZING LOWS ARE EXPECTED ALONG AND WEST OF I-55 BY SUNDAY MORNING. BEYOND THAT...THE FORECAST TRENDS BECOME COMPLICATED BY A TROPICAL SYSTEM MOVING NORTHWARD OFF THE EAST COAST. ECMWF MODEL IS MORE AFFECTED AND FORMS A CUTOFF LOW OVER THE GREAT LAKES...LINGERING THE CHILLY WEATHER INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK...WHEREAS THE GFS IS MORE PROGRESSIVE AND MILDER. NEITHER SOLUTION CURRENTLY YIELDS ANY PRECIPITATION FOR OUR AREA SUNDAY AND MONDAY. GEELHART && .ILX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... NONE. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS CHICAGO/ROMEOVILLE IL
944 AM CDT TUE OCT 23 2012 .DISCUSSION... 858 AM CDT UPDATED GRIDS AND ZFP HAVE BEEN SENT WITH SIGNIFICANT CHANGES TO FIRST PERIOD. MORNING WATER VAPOR IMAGERY SHOWS A WELL DEFINED SHORTWAVE TROUGH MOVING EASTWARD OVER IA/MO. SCATTERED SHOWERS AND ISOLATED THUNDERSTORMS LIKELY TO CONTINUE TO PERCOLATE IN THE VERY MOIST AIRMASS OUT AHEAD OF THIS SHORTWAVE. MAJORITY OF THE ASCENT WITH THIS WAVE SHOULD BE EAST OF THE CWA BY LATE AFTERNOON WITH SHOWER AND THUNDERSTORM COVERAGE EXPECTED TO DECREASE TOWARD EVENING. HAVE BUMPED UP SKY COVER CONSIDERABLY TODAY WITH NO HOPE OF SEEING ANY BREAKS IN THE OVERCAST UNTIL THIS SHORTWAVE PASSES EAST OF THE AREA LATE THIS AFTERNOON. EVEN THEN ONCE THE MID/HIGH LEVEL MOISTURE CLEARS OUT THINKING ITS VERY LIKELY STRATUS DECK WILL STICK AROUND AS OUR LATE OCTOBER SUN ANGLE IS ROUGHLY THE SAME AS EARLY FEBRUARY AND WITH SUCH LATE CLEARING OF HIGH CLOUDS AND VERY MOIST LOW LEVELS THINK IT WILL BE TOO LITTLE TOO LATE FOR THE SUN TO EAT AWAY AT THE STRATUS. IN FACT...THERE IS A VERY REAL CHANCE THAT STRATUS COULD STICK AROUND TONIGHT INTO TOMORROW MORNING AS WELL AND HAVE BUMPED UP SKY GRIDS SOME TONIGHT. AFTERNOON FORECAST MAY NEED TO CONSIDER ADJUSTING SKY COVER UP FURTHER TONIGHT INTO TOMORROW. GIVEN THE ANTICIPATED THICK OVERCAST MOST OF TODAY HAVE TAKEN A HATCHET TO THE GOING HIGH TEMPERATURE FORECAST. GENERALLY WOULD EXPECT TEMPS TO REMAIN NEARLY STEADY MOST OF THE DAY IN THE LOW TO MID 60S...WITH A COUPLE/FEW DEGREE TEMP RISE POSSIBLE LATE THIS AFTERNOON...ESPECIALLY FAR WESTERN CWA WHICH COULD POSSIBLY MAKE A RUN AT 70 DEGREES STILL. IZZI //PREV DISCUSSION... 326 AM CDT EARLY THIS MORNING THE FRONTAL BOUNDARY HAS STALLED ACROSS THE IL/WI STATELINE. TO THE NORTH OF THE BOUNDARY TEMPS HAVE HELD IN THE MID/UPR 50S WITH DEW PTS IN THE LOW/MID 50S WITH AREAS OF DENSE FOG. SOUTH OF THE BOUNDARY TEMPS HAVE REMAINED VERY MILD FOR MID OCTOBER IN THE 60S...ALONG WITH ANOMALOUSLY HIGH DEW PTS OF AROUND 60. IR IMAGERY EARLY THIS MORNING DEPICTED THE LEADING EDGE OF HIGH BASED CLOUDS FLOATING NORTH ALONG A CENTRAL IOWA...NORTHERN IL...TO FAR SOUTHWEST LOWER MICHIGAN LINE. THIS AREA OF HIGH CLOUDS AND VERY MOIST AIRMASS WAS ASSOCIATED WITH AN ELEVATED SHORTWAVE LIFTING NORTHEAST ACROSS SOUTHWEST MISSOURI. SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS HAVE BEEN STEADILY GROWING IN COVERAGE ACROSS MISSOURI...AND BASED ON CURRENT TRAJECTORIES THE LEADING PRECIP SHOULD ARRIVE ALONG THE SOUTHWEST CWFA AROUND DAYBREAK. THEN STEADILY LIFT NORTHEAST ACROSS THE REMAINING CWFA BY MID-MORNING. CURRENT GUIDANCE INDICATES CAPE OF AROUND 500-750J/KG IN THE 15-18 TIMEFRAME...WHICH APPEARS TO BE THE HIGHEST CONFIDENCE TIMING FOR CONVECTION TO OCCUR. SO HAVE CARRIED LIKELY SHRA/TSRA AT THAT TIME. AS THE ELEVATED WAVE ARRIVES ACROSS THE CWFA THIS MORNING...IT WILL REMAIN PROGRESSIVE AND ALLOW PRECIP TO DIMINISH IN COVERAGE FROM SOUTH TO NORTH ACROSS THE CWFA THIS AFTN. SUPPORTING THIS DRYING TREND WILL BE THE SLOW RISE IN HEIGHTS ALOFT...INDICATING WEAK DIFFLUENCE ALOFT. WITH REGARDS TO TEMPS TODAY...GUIDANCE IS DEMONSTRATING A HIGHER CONFIDENCE THAT TEMPS WILL EASILY WARM INTO THE 70S. THE CHALLENGE IS DETERMINE THE LOCATIONS THAT WILL WARM INTO THE MID 70S...WHICH CURRENTLY APPEARS TO BE ALONG AND SOUTH OF A ROCKFORD TO KANKAKEE LINE. THE OTHER WILDCARD FOR LOCATIONS NORTH OF THIS LINE WILL BE THE CLOUD COVER AND LINGERING PRECIP. AT THIS TIME IT APPEARS BY 21Z ALL BUT A FEW SHRA SHOULD HAVE DEPARTED THE CWFA TO THE NORTH...ALTHOUGH CLOUDS MAY STILL BE MOSTLY CLOUDY. PWAT VALUES WILL REMAIN ABOVE 1 INCH THRU THE DAY TDY...WITH A HANDFUL OF LOCATIONS RISING TO NEARLY 1.5 INCHES. THE COMBINATION OF MILD TEMPS AND HIGH MOISTURE CONTENT IN THE ATMOSPHERE WILL MAKE TODAY AND WED FEEL MORE LIKE SUMMER. SOUTHERLY FLOW WILL LINGER THROUGH THE OVERNIGHT...AND SHOULD BE JUST STRONG ENOUGH TO PREVENT DENSE FG FROM FORMING. THUS WILL ONLY MENTION PATCHY FG IN THE FORECAST TONIGHT. ANOTHER MILD NIGHT APPEARS LIKELY FOR TONIGHT WITH TEMPS ONLY COOLING INTO THE LOW 60S. A FEW GUIDANCE MEMBERS WERE WARMER THAN THIS IN THE MID 60S AT A HANDFUL OF POINTS...HOWEVER FELT THE GENERAL CONSENSUS WOULD BE AROUND 60 TO PSBLY LOW 60S. DRY WEATHER SHOULD LAST THROUGH THE OVERNIGHT HOURS AS WELL. WEDNESDAY THROUGH THURSDAY... 500MB RIDGE PUSHES OVERHEAD WITH WEAK DIFFLUENT FLOW IN THE LLVLS...SUGGESTING MUCH OF WED THRU AT LEAST DAYBREAK THUR WILL REMAIN DRY. FOR WED THIS WILL SET THE STAGE FOR A RUN AT TEMPS AROUND 80...PSBLY WARMING INTO THE LOW 80S FOR A FEW LOCATIONS WED AFTN. THE DEEPER MOISTURE WILL PEEL OFF TO THE NORTHEAST WITH THE WARM FRONTAL BOUNDARY...WHICH MAY AID IN SLIGHTLY LOWER DEW PTS AND PWAT VALUES HOVER AROUND 1 INCH WED AFTN. IF DEW PTS CAN FALL INTO THE MID/UPR 50S...THIS WOULD ALLOW THE SFC TO WARM MORE EFFICIENTLY AND ALLOW THE SFC TO EASILY REACH 80 DEG IN MANY LOCATIONS OF THE CWFA. CURRENT TEMP PLUMES FROM THE SREF AND VARIOUS OTHER GUIDANCE SOURCES...INDICATE TEMPS WED WILL BE IN THE MID/UPR 70S OVER THE FAR NORTHERN TIER OF COUNTIES IN IL. MEANWHILE FURTHER SOUTH OR SOUTH OF I-88...TEMPS COULD WARM INTO THE UPR 70S TO AROUND 80. CLOUDS WILL ALSO PLAY A ROLE...HOWEVER CURRENTLY FORECASTING P-CLOUDY CONDS WED. THEN FOR THUR AHEAD OF THE FRONTAL BNDRY...TEMPS COULD WARM AGAIN INTO THE MID/UPR 70S MAINLY FOR FAR EASTERN SECTIONS OF THE CWFA. 500MB TROUGH AXIS WILL BEGIN TO PUSH INTO THE CENTRAL PLAINS WED NGT/EARLY THUR...WITH THE MAIN VORT MAX ROUNDING THE TROUGH AXIS EARLY THUR MORNING ACROSS THE SOUTHERN PLAINS. IT APPEARS THAT THE DOWNSTREAM RIDGE WILL EXTEND FROM QUEBEC TO THE CAROLINAS...WHICH MAY ALLOW THE FRONTAL BNDRY TO SLOW SLIGHTLY. IF THE BNDRY SLOWS FURTHER...PRECIP COULD REMAIN WEST OF THE CWFA THRU THE EARLY AFTN HOURS AND ALLOW TEMPS TO BE EVEN WARMER...GIVEN THE POTENTIAL FOR COMPRESSIONAL HEATING TO OCCUR BETWEEN THE DEPARTING SFC RIDGE AND UPSTREAM TROUGH. INSTABILITY WILL DEVELOP WITH THE PASSAGE THUR AFTN...THEN SHUD STABILIZE IN THE EVENING HOURS WITH FRONTAL PASSAGE. WINDS WILL TURN NW...WITH MUCH COOLER AIR STEADILY ADVECTING ACROSS THE CWFA. THERMAL RIDGE OF 15 TO 17 DEG C AT 850MB RAPIDLY TRANSITIONS TO AROUND 5 DEG C BY 06Z FRI. FRIDAY THROUGH MONDAY... POTENT ANTI-CYCLONIC FLOW QUICKLY ARRIVES FRI...AND SHUD PUSH THE PRECIP/CLOUDS TO THE EAST ACROSS IN/MI. HOWEVER A FEW EASTERN AREAS COULD CONTINUE TO SEE A SLIGHT CHC POPS FRI. FRI APPEARS TO BE THE WARMEST DAY IN THE FINAL PERIODS OF THE EXTENDED...WITH TEMPS EXPECTED TO BE IN THE LOW 50S. THESE HIGH TEMPS MAY ACTUALLY ARRIVE EARLY IN THE DAY...AS COLD AIR CONTINUES TO POUR IN FROM THE NORTHWEST THROUGHOUT THE DAY. LAKE EFFECT CONDS DEVELOP AND BECOME OPTIMAL FRI NGT/SAT/SAT NGT FOR THE FAVORED AREAS OF NORTHWEST IN. THERMAL TROUGH OVERHEAD WILL CONTINUE TO COOL WITH 0 TO -3 DEG C AT 850MB POISED TO PUSH OVERHEAD SAT/SUN. THUS IT APPEARS TEMPS WILL STRUGGLE TO WARM BEYOND THE LOW/MID 40S. AT THIS TIME IT DOES NOT APPEAR CLOUDS WILL BE A MAJOR PLAYER. IN ADDITION DRY WEATHER SHOULD REMAIN THRU THE BULK OF THE EXTENDED...WITH THE EXCEPTION OF NORTHWEST IN. ANY LINGERING PRECIP DURING THE NOCTURNAL HOURS FRI/SAT/SUN COULD BECOME MIXED WITH SOME WET SNOW...AS TEMPS WILL BE COOLING INTO THE MID 30S EACH OF THESE NIGHTS. SAT NGT COULD BE THE COOLEST DAY AS GUIDANCE HAS INDICATED THE SFC RIDGE PUSHING OVER CENTRAL WI. THIS COULD ALLOW WINDS TO DIMINISH AND CLOUDS TO REMAIN MINIMAL...ALLOWING FOR OPTIMAL RADIATIONAL COOLING TO TAKE PLAY SAT NGT. IF THIS SCENARIO WERE TO VERIFY...TEMPS COULD EASILY BOTTOMOUT IN THE UPR 20S ACROSS THE CWFA. BEACHLER && .AVIATION... //ORD AND MDW CONCERNS...UPDATED 14Z... * LIFR/IFR REST OF MORNING INTO EARLY AFTERNOON. * WIND GRADUALLY VEERING FROM E TO S LATE MORNING THROUGH EARLY AFTERNOON. * PERIODS OF -RA WITH LOCAL SHRA REST OF MORNING THROUGH EARLY AFTERNOON. TRS //DISCUSSION...UPDATED 14Z... TROUGH/WARM FRONT HAS NOT LIFTED NWRD AS SOON AS MODELS EARLIER INDICATED AND EVEN LATEST AVAILABLE HI RES HRRR AND RAP PLACE IT TOO FAR N NEAR/TO WI BORDER BY 15-16Z WHICH LOOKS TO BE A COUPLE HRS TOO FAST. LIFR AND IFR EXPECTED TO PERSIST TIL BOUNDARY DOES LIFT N PAST TERMINALS AND WINDS BECOME SRLY BTWN 17Z-19Z THEN CIGS SHUD LIFT AND VSBYS IMPROVE. BETWEEN AREA OF RA AND TS MOVING ENE OVER NRN IN AND ANOTHER AREA OF MAINLY RA AND A FEW TS MOVING SLIGHTLY N OF E FM ERN MO ACROSS THE MS RIVER ARE SCT DISORGANIZED -SHRA AND ISOLD SHRA. MODELS SHOW BULK OF QPF E OF LOCAL TERMINALS BY 18Z AS UPPER TROUGH FROM NRN MO SSE TO NERN AR MOVES OVER AND PAST THE LOCAL AREA. MODELS DO INDICATE SPOTTY QPF 18Z-00Z BUT AMOUNTS OF ONLY A COUPLE HUNDREDTHS OF AN INCH. DO NOT SEE ANY SIGNIFICANT FORCING MECHANISMS FOR ADDITIONAL SHRA GENERATION BEYOND EARLY AFTERNOON. TRS PREVIOUS DISCUSSION...UPDATED 12Z... TWO MAIN CONCERNS/CHALLENGES...CIGS AND TSRA THIS MORNING. LIFR CIGS HAVE REMAINED LOCKED IN AND WITH CONTINUED LIGHT NORTHEAST WINDS OFF THE LAKE...EXPECT AT LEAST A FEW MORE HOURS OF LIFR CIGS UNTIL WINDS START TO TURN MORE SOUTHERLY AND CIGS LIFT. CONFIDENCE REGARDING TIMING REMAINS LOW. ONCE CIGS DO LIFT...MVFR CIGS LIKELY TO CONTINUE INTO THE EARLY/MID AFTERNOON. ONE COMPLEX OF TSRA OVER EASTERN IL/WESTERN INDIANA WILL REMAIN SOUTH OF THE TERMINALS WHILE CONVECTION OVER MISSOURI HAS WEAKENED CONSIDERABLY IN THE PAST FEW HOURS. SHORT TERM GUIDANCE STILL SUGGESTS FURTHER SHRA DEVELOPMENT ACROSS WESTERN IL THIS MORNING BUT CONFIDENCE REGARDING TSRA POTENTIAL IS DECREASING AND TRENDS WILL NEED TO BE MONITORED FOR POSSIBLE UPDATES. SOUTHERLY WINDS MAY GUST INTO THE MID TEENS THIS AFTERNOON BUT THIS WILL BE DEPENDENT ON SUNSHINE AND LOW LEVEL MIXING WHICH MAY NOT OCCUR. SOUTHERLY WINDS WILL PERSIST TONIGHT AND SHOULD BEGIN TO GUST SOME WEDNESDAY MORNING. WITH THE WARM FRONT EXPECTED TO BE WELL NORTH OF THE AREA TONIGHT...NOT EXPECTING ANY WIDESPREAD FOG OR LOW CIG PROBLEMS BUT HAVE INCLUDED SOME MVFR VIS AT RFD/DPA. //ORD AND MDW CONFIDENCE...UPDATED 14Z... * MEDIUM CONFIDENCE LIFR AND IFR CIGS WILL LIFT TO MVFR LATE MORNING-EARLY AFTERNOON AND TO VFR EARLY-MID AFTERNOON. * MEDIUM CONFIDENCE SCT -SHRA/ISOLD SHRA REST OF MORNING INTO EARLY AFTERNOON. * MEDIUM CONFIDENCE IN TIMING OF WINDS VEERING FM E TO S. TRS //OUTLOOK FOR ORD/MDW FOR 00Z THURSDAY-12Z TUESDAY...UPDATED 12Z... * WEDNESDAY NIGHT...VFR. * THURSDAY...STRONG/GUSTY SOUTHWEST WINDS. SHRA/TSRA THURSDAY AFTERNOON/EARLY EVENING...ALONG/AHEAD OF WIND SHIFT/COLD FRONT. * FRIDAY AND SATURDAY...SLIGHT CHANCE OF SHRA. * SUNDAY AND MONDAY...VFR. && .MARINE... 308 AM...A FRONTAL BOUNDARY HAS BECOME NEARLY STATIONARY JUST SOUTH OF LAKE MICHIGAN EARLY THIS MORNING. IT WILL BEGIN TO SLOWLY LIFT NORTH LATER TODAY AND TONIGHT AS LOW PRESSURE OVER THE NORTHERN PLAINS LIFTS NORTH INTO SOUTHERN CANADA. HOWEVER...WITH HIGH PRESSURE ACROSS ONTARIO...THE GRADIENT WILL REMAIN FAIRLY STRONG ACROSS THE NORTHERN THIRD OR QUARTER OF THE LAKE WITH EASTERLY WINDS 15-25 KTS INTO TONIGHT...SLOWLY TURNING SOUTHEAST AND WEAKENING BY WEDNESDAY MORNING. NEW LOW PRESSURE WILL DEVELOP OVER EASTERN COLORADO TONIGHT AND MOVE NORTHEAST TO NEAR LAKE SUPERIOR BY THURSDAY AFTERNOON. THE GRADIENT WILL STEADILY TIGHTEN AHEAD OF THIS FRONT WEDNESDAY NIGHT INTO THURSDAY MORNING BUT FORECAST SOUNDINGS SHOW A FAIRLY STRONG MARINE LAYER/INVERSION. BUT WINDS STILL EXPECTED TO REACH 30 KTS OR SO. WINDS WILL DIMINISH AHEAD OF THE COLD FRONT LATE THURSDAY AFTERNOON/EARLY THURSDAY EVENING THEN SHIFT OUT OF THE NORTHWEST BEHIND THE FRONT. WITH HIGH PRESSURE BUILDING ACROSS THE PLAINS...THE GRADIENT BEHIND THE FRONT WILL LIKELY SUPPORT GUSTS TO 30 KTS. COULD BE AN HOUR OR TWO OF HIGHER GUSTS WITH/JUST BEHIND THE FRONT. LIGHT WINDS ACROSS THE SOUTHERN TWO THIRDS OF THE LAKE...COMBINED WITH THE VERY MOIST LOW LEVELS WILL LIKELY LEAD TO AREAS OF FOG AND MAYBE SOME PATCHY DENSE FOG...THIS MORNING WHICH SHOULD IMPROVE AS WINDS TURN MORE SOUTHERLY. CMS && .LOT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... IL...NONE. IN...NONE. LM...NONE. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS LINCOLN IL
648 AM CDT TUE OCT 23 2012 .DISCUSSION... ISSUED 310 AM CDT TUE OCT 23 2012 WARM FRONT CURRENTLY LOCATED OVER NORTHERN ILLINOIS...ROUGHLY ALONG THE I-80 CORRIDOR. HAVE BEEN SEEING SHOWERS AND STORMS INCREASING ACROSS WESTERN ILLINOIS AND ESPECIALLY OVER MISSOURI...AS AN UPPER WAVE MOVES INTO THE AREA AND AN APPARENT MESOSCALE VORTEX TRACKS ACROSS MISSOURI PER WATER VAPOR IMAGERY. INITIAL FORECAST CONCERN INVOLVES CONVECTIVE TRENDS FOR PRIMARILY THIS MORNING...ALONG WITH ITS EFFECTS ON TEMPERATURES. IN THE LONGER RANGE...THE TIMING OF A STRONG COLD FRONT ON THURSDAY REMAINS AN ISSUE...ALONG WITH RAIN TRENDS THURSDAY AND FRIDAY. SHORT TERM...TODAY THROUGH THURSDAY NIGHT... LATEST HRRR DOING A REASONABLE JOB WITH THE CONVECTION OVER MISSOURI...AND IT CONTINUES TO INCREASE THE RAIN OVER MOST OF THE CWA THROUGH EARLY MORNING. AS SUCH...HAVE RAMPED UP RAIN CHANCES TO THE LIKELY RANGE IN MOST AREAS...PRIMARILY ALONG AND EAST OF I-55. ANY LINGERING RAIN SHOULD BE TAPERING OFF EARLY IN THE AFTERNOON. THE CONVECTION YESTERDAY REALLY THREW OFF THE HIGH TEMPERATURE FORECAST...AND WILL HAVE TO KEEP THAT POTENTIAL IN MIND FOR TODAY...ESPECIALLY IF CLOUDS ARE SLOW TO MOVE OUT. HAVE LOWERED HIGHS FOR TODAY BY A FEW DEGREES IN MOST AREAS...CLOSER TO A MET/MAV BLEND. HOWEVER...HAVE KEPT HIGHS NEAR 80 DEGREES ON WEDNESDAY AND OVER THE EASTERN 2/3 OF THE CWA ON THURSDAY AS WELL. UPPER WAVE CURRENTLY OVER THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST IS EXPECTED TO FORM A CLOSED LOW AS IT MOVES NORTHEAST TO THE CANADIAN PRAIRIES BY EARLY WEDNESDAY. 50-70 KNOT JET AT 500 MB WILL FOLLOW A WAVE SLIDING ALONG THE SOUTHERN JET STREAM TO FEED INTO THE AREA AHEAD OF THE COLD FRONT. LATEST MODEL GUIDANCE BRINGS THE FRONT INTO THE NORTHWESTERN CWA THURSDAY AFTERNOON...AND ENTERING THE SOUTHEAST CWA TOWARD MIDNIGHT. A NARROW WINDOW OF OPPORTUNITY EXISTS FOR SOME STRONGER STORMS AHEAD OF THE FRONT THURSDAY AFTERNOON... ALTHOUGH RAPIDLY INCREASING CLOUDS MAY THWART THIS POTENTIAL. HOWEVER...THE RAIN WILL BE ON THE INCREASE...AND HAVE INTRODUCED LIKELY POPS NORTHWEST OF THE ILLINOIS RIVER DURING THE AFTERNOON. WITH THE BULK OF THE RAIN BEHIND THE FRONT...WILL SPREAD THE LIKELY POPS FROM WEST TO EAST...WITH THE RAIN DIMINISHING WEST OF I-55 AFTER MIDNIGHT. LONG TERM...FRIDAY THROUGH MONDAY... MODELS HAVE BEEN BACKING OFF ON THE IDEA OF A SECONDARY WAVE FEEDING THE AREA BEHIND THE FRONT...WITH THE 00Z ECMWF THE ONLY ONE STILL WITH THIS GENERAL TREND. WILL DROP THE RAIN CHANCES NORTHWEST OF THE ILLINOIS RIVER ON FRIDAY AND FRIDAY NIGHT...AND LOWER THEM QUITE A BIT FURTHER EAST. HOWEVER...THE GFS AND CANADIAN MODELS WOULD SUGGEST COMPLETELY DRY CONDITIONS BY EARLY FRIDAY EVENING EVERYWHERE...SO WILL NEED TO SEE IF THIS TREND CONTINUES. HAVE REMOVED THE RAIN ON SATURDAY ASIDE FROM SOME SLIGHT CHANCES EAST OF I-57...MAINLY DURING THE MORNING. WEEKEND TREND STILL LOOKS QUITE CHILLY...WITH HIGHS IN MANY AREAS STRUGGLING TO REACH THE 50 DEGREE MARK. SUB-FREEZING LOWS ARE EXPECTED ALONG AND WEST OF I-55 BY SUNDAY MORNING. BEYOND THAT...THE FORECAST TRENDS BECOME COMPLICATED BY A TROPICAL SYSTEM MOVING NORTHWARD OFF THE EAST COAST. ECMWF MODEL IS MORE AFFECTED AND FORMS A CUTOFF LOW OVER THE GREAT LAKES...LINGERING THE CHILLY WEATHER INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK...WHEREAS THE GFS IS MORE PROGRESSIVE AND MILDER. NEITHER SOLUTION CURRENTLY YIELDS ANY PRECIPITATION FOR OUR AREA SUNDAY AND MONDAY. GEELHART && .AVIATION... ISSUED 648 AM CDT TUE OCT 23 2012 WILL BE A BREAK IN THE PCPN THIS MORNING AS AREA WILL BE IN BETWEEN COMPLEXES. THE NEXT ROUND OF PCPN SHOULD REACH SPI/PIA AROUND 15Z...DEC/BMI AROUND 16Z AND THEN CMI AROUND 17Z. PCPN WILL BE MAINLY SHOWERS BUT THUNDERSTORM ARE EMBEDDED IN THE COMPLEX SO WILL ALSO HAVE A 2HR TEMPO GROUP FOR THUNDER AT EACH SITE DURING THE LATE MORNING TO EARLY AFTERNOON. PCPN COULD LINGER BEHIND THE MAIN AREA SO WILL BE KEEPING SHRA AND VCTS AT EACH SITE FOR COUPLE HOURS AFTER TEMPO GROUP. ON BACK SIDE OF PCPN WINDS SHOULD ALSO INCREASE SO WILL KEEP GUSTY WINDS DURING AFTERNOON. WINDS WILL BE SOUTHERLY THROUGH THE PERIOD. CLOUDS WILL SCATTER OUT COUPLE OF HOURS BEHIND THE SYSTEM AND THEN MOSTLY CLEAR AROUND SUNSET FOR THE EVENING. NAM TRYING TO BRING SOME SC INTO THE AREA OVERNIGHT. HOWEVER...UNSURE OF THIS SOLUTION SO WILL KEEP CLEAR FORECAST FOR THE NIGHT HOURS FOR NOW. AUTEN && .ILX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... NONE. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS LINCOLN IL
310 AM CDT TUE OCT 23 2012 .DISCUSSION... ISSUED 310 AM CDT TUE OCT 23 2012 WARM FRONT CURRENTLY LOCATED OVER NORTHERN ILLINOIS...ROUGHLY ALONG THE I-80 CORRIDOR. HAVE BEEN SEEING SHOWERS AND STORMS INCREASING ACROSS WESTERN ILLINOIS AND ESPECIALLY OVER MISSOURI...AS AN UPPER WAVE MOVES INTO THE AREA AND AN APPARENT MESOSCALE VORTEX TRACKS ACROSS MISSOURI PER WATER VAPOR IMAGERY. INITIAL FORECAST CONCERN INVOLVES CONVECTIVE TRENDS FOR PRIMARILY THIS MORNING...ALONG WITH ITS EFFECTS ON TEMPERATURES. IN THE LONGER RANGE...THE TIMING OF A STRONG COLD FRONT ON THURSDAY REMAINS AN ISSUE...ALONG WITH RAIN TRENDS THURSDAY AND FRIDAY. SHORT TERM...TODAY THROUGH THURSDAY NIGHT... LATEST HRRR DOING A REASONABLE JOB WITH THE CONVECTION OVER MISSOURI...AND IT CONTINUES TO INCREASE THE RAIN OVER MOST OF THE CWA THROUGH EARLY MORNING. AS SUCH...HAVE RAMPED UP RAIN CHANCES TO THE LIKELY RANGE IN MOST AREAS...PRIMARILY ALONG AND EAST OF I-55. ANY LINGERING RAIN SHOULD BE TAPERING OFF EARLY IN THE AFTERNOON. THE CONVECTION YESTERDAY REALLY THREW OFF THE HIGH TEMPERATURE FORECAST...AND WILL HAVE TO KEEP THAT POTENTIAL IN MIND FOR TODAY...ESPECIALLY IF CLOUDS ARE SLOW TO MOVE OUT. HAVE LOWERED HIGHS FOR TODAY BY A FEW DEGREES IN MOST AREAS...CLOSER TO A MET/MAV BLEND. HOWEVER...HAVE KEPT HIGHS NEAR 80 DEGREES ON WEDNESDAY AND OVER THE EASTERN 2/3 OF THE CWA ON THURSDAY AS WELL. UPPER WAVE CURRENTLY OVER THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST IS EXPECTED TO FORM A CLOSED LOW AS IT MOVES NORTHEAST TO THE CANADIAN PRAIRIES BY EARLY WEDNESDAY. 50-70 KNOT JET AT 500 MB WILL FOLLOW A WAVE SLIDING ALONG THE SOUTHERN JET STREAM TO FEED INTO THE AREA AHEAD OF THE COLD FRONT. LATEST MODEL GUIDANCE BRINGS THE FRONT INTO THE NORTHWESTERN CWA THURSDAY AFTERNOON...AND ENTERING THE SOUTHEAST CWA TOWARD MIDNIGHT. A NARROW WINDOW OF OPPORTUNITY EXISTS FOR SOME STRONGER STORMS AHEAD OF THE FRONT THURSDAY AFTERNOON... ALTHOUGH RAPIDLY INCREASING CLOUDS MAY THWART THIS POTENTIAL. HOWEVER...THE RAIN WILL BE ON THE INCREASE...AND HAVE INTRODUCED LIKELY POPS NORTHWEST OF THE ILLINOIS RIVER DURING THE AFTERNOON. WITH THE BULK OF THE RAIN BEHIND THE FRONT...WILL SPREAD THE LIKELY POPS FROM WEST TO EAST...WITH THE RAIN DIMINISHING WEST OF I-55 AFTER MIDNIGHT. LONG TERM...FRIDAY THROUGH MONDAY... MODELS HAVE BEEN BACKING OFF ON THE IDEA OF A SECONDARY WAVE FEEDING THE AREA BEHIND THE FRONT...WITH THE 00Z ECMWF THE ONLY ONE STILL WITH THIS GENERAL TREND. WILL DROP THE RAIN CHANCES NORTHWEST OF THE ILLINOIS RIVER ON FRIDAY AND FRIDAY NIGHT...AND LOWER THEM QUITE A BIT FURTHER EAST. HOWEVER...THE GFS AND CANADIAN MODELS WOULD SUGGEST COMPLETELY DRY CONDITIONS BY EARLY FRIDAY EVENING EVERYWHERE...SO WILL NEED TO SEE IF THIS TREND CONTINUES. HAVE REMOVED THE RAIN ON SATURDAY ASIDE FROM SOME SLIGHT CHANCES EAST OF I-57...MAINLY DURING THE MORNING. WEEKEND TREND STILL LOOKS QUITE CHILLY...WITH HIGHS IN MANY AREAS STRUGGLING TO REACH THE 50 DEGREE MARK. SUB-FREEZING LOWS ARE EXPECTED ALONG AND WEST OF I-55 BY SUNDAY MORNING. BEYOND THAT...THE FORECAST TRENDS BECOME COMPLICATED BY A TROPICAL SYSTEM MOVING NORTHWARD OFF THE EAST COAST. ECMWF MODEL IS MORE AFFECTED AND FORMS A CUTOFF LOW OVER THE GREAT LAKES...LINGERING THE CHILLY WEATHER INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK...WHEREAS THE GFS IS MORE PROGRESSIVE AND MILDER. NEITHER SOLUTION CURRENTLY YIELDS ANY PRECIPITATION FOR OUR AREA SUNDAY AND MONDAY. GEELHART && .AVIATION... ISSUED 1141 PM CDT MON OCT 22 2012 SHORT-WAVE TROUGH EVIDENT ON 04Z WATER VAPOR IMAGERY OVER EASTERN KANSAS WILL LIFT NORTHEASTWARD...BRINGING ANOTHER ROUND OF SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS TO CENTRAL ILLINOIS LATE TONIGHT INTO TUESDAY MORNING. 0430Z RADAR MOSAIC SHOWS SCATTERED SHOWERS ACROSS CENTRAL MISSOURI...WITH A CLUSTER OF CONVECTION DEVELOPING ACROSS SOUTHWEST MISSOURI. AS UPPER WAVE APPROACHES AND LOW-LEVEL JET INCREASES...THINK SHOWERS/STORMS WILL BECOME MORE WIDESPREAD ACROSS MISSOURI OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF HOURS. THIS PRECIPITATION WILL THEN SPREAD NORTHEASTWARD INTO CENTRAL ILLINOIS TOWARD DAWN. BASED ON THE 01Z HRRR AND LATEST RADAR TRENDS...HAVE INTRODUCED PREDOMINANT SHOWERS AT KSPI BY 08Z...THEN FURTHER NORTHEAST TO KBMI AND KCMI BY 10Z. WILL CARRY SHOWERS FOR ABOUT 7 TO 8 HOURS AT EACH TERMINAL...ENDING FROM WEST TO EAST TOWARD MIDDAY. TIMING OF INDIVIDUAL THUNDERSTORMS AT EACH TAF SITE REMAINS DIFFICULT...SO WILL ONLY MENTION VCTS AT THIS TIME. ONCE UPPER WAVE TRACKS OFF TO THE NORTHEAST...SHOWERS WILL COME TO AN END AND SKIES WILL GRADUALLY CLEAR BY TUESDAY AFTERNOON/EVENING. WINDS WILL INITIALLY BE FROM THE SOUTH AT AROUND 10KT TONIGHT...THEN WILL INCREASE AND GUST TO AROUND 20KT ONCE THE RAIN ENDS TUESDAY AFTERNOON. BARNES && .ILX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... NONE. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS NORTHERN INDIANA
351 PM EDT TUE OCT 23 2012 .SHORT TERM...TONIGHT THROUGH WEDNESDAY NIGHT ONGOING PRECIP CHANCES THROUGH THIS EVENING AND CONTINUED MODERATING TREND INTO WEDNESDAY WILL BE THE MAIN FORECAST ISSUES FOR THE SHORT TERM. CONVECTIVE COMPLEX AIDED BY MCV THIS MORNING HAS DIMINISHED...BUT HAS LEFT SOME RESIDUAL COOL/STABLE LOW LEVELS. RAP INITIALIZATION SOUNDINGS THIS AFTERNOON DO DEPICT SOME WEAK ELEVATED INSTABILITY PERSISTING FOR 850 HPA BASED PARCELS HOWEVER. REMAINING SCATTERED SHOWER ACTIVITY APPEARS TO BE FAIRLY WELL ALIGNED WITH WEAK DPVA ZONE IN ADVANCE OF REMNANTS OF DAMPENING BAJA OF CALIFORNIA SHORT WAVE. A STRONGER VORT MAX ASSOCIATED WITH THIS DECAYING TROUGH APPEARS TO BE WORKING ACROSS SOUTHERN ILLINOIS THIS AFTERNOON AND SHOULD REMAIN SOUTH OF FORECAST AREA. WILL CARRY SOME CHANCE POPS LATE AFTERNOON INTO EARLY THIS EVENING IN ASSOCIATION WITH THE LEAD SHORT WAVE...WITH PRECIP CHANCES DIMINISHING FROM WEST TO EAST THIS EVENING. STILL CANNOT COMPLETELY RULE OUT AN ISOLD THUNDERSTORM THROUGH 00Z GIVEN WEAK ELEVATED INSTABILITY AND PERIOD OF STRONGEST FORCING WITH THIS SHORT WAVE. OTHERWISE...MILD CONDITIONS IN STORE TONIGHT WITH LOCAL AREA REMAINING IN WARM SECTOR. SOME SCATTERING OF LOW CLOUDS EXPECTED TONIGHT...AND RELATIVELY WEAK SFC GRADIENT SHOULD ALLOW FOR MINS FROM THE MID TO UPPER 50S EAST...TO AROUND 60 FAR WEST. IF LOW CLOUDS DO SCATTER THIS EVENING...GRADIENT SHOULD REMAIN WEAK ENOUGH FOR SOME PATCHY RADIATIONAL FOG TO DEVELOP BUT STRENGTHENING LOW LEVEL HEIGHT GRADIENT LATE TONIGHT LENDS SOME LOW CONFIDENCE IN THIS SCENARIO. UNSEASONABLY WARM CONDITIONS IN STORE FOR TOMORROW AS REINFORCING LOW LEVEL THERMAL RIDGE IN THE LEE OF THE ROCKIES ADVECTS NORTHEAST INTO THE SOUTHERN GREAT LAKES. SOME LINGERING STRATUS IS POSSIBLE MAINLY ACROSS FAR NORTH AND FAR EAST WEDNESDAY MORNING...BUT MOST LOCATIONS SHOULD HAVE PLENTY OF AFTERNOON SUNSHINE. DESPITE LIMITED MIXING HEIGHTS...MIXING TO 900 HPA SHOULD SUPPORT HIGHS IN THE UPPER 70S WHICH IS INLINE WITH PREVIOUS FORECAST. THE RECORD HIGH AT KSBN FOR OCTOBER 24TH IS 79 SET BACK IN 1975 WHICH DOES APPEAR TO BE AT RISK OF BEING REACHED. DRY...MILD CONDITIONS TO CONTINUE THROUGH WEDNESDAY NIGHT AS AREA REMAINS IN WARM SECTOR. SOME DRIER LOW LEVEL AIR WILL ADVECT NORTHWARD IN ADVANCE OF NEXT SIGNIFICANT UPPER LEVEL TROUGH DIGGING ACROSS THE ROCKIES WHICH MAY TEND TO OFFSET THE STRONGER GRADIENT WEDNESDAY NIGHT FOR LOWS SIMILAR TO THAT OF TONIGHT. && .LONG TERM.../THURSDAY THROUGH TUESDAY/ ENERGY FROM CLOSED LOW OFF THE WEST COAST WILL BEGIN TO TRANSLATE EASTWARD WITH TIME AND BRING A CONTINUATION OF ACTIVE WEATHER AND MUCH COOLER TEMPERATURES TO THE REGION. THURSDAY THROUGH FRIDAY... EFFECTS OF LARGE TROUGH DIGGING INTO THE PLAINS WILL FURTHER IMPACT THE REGION WITH WARMEST AIR ARRIVING JUST AHEAD OF APPROACHING COLD FRONT. MODEL SOUNDINGS SUGGEST MOSTLY SUNNY SKIES SHOULD ALLOW MIXING THROUGH AT LEAST 900 MB AND POSSIBLY 850 MB YIELDING HIGHS WELL INTO THE 70S WITH A FEW SPOTS RUNNING TOWARDS 80 POSSIBLE...ESPECIALLY SE. COLD FRONT WILL MOVE TOWARDS THE AREA BY LATE AFTERNOON...INCREASING CLOUDS JUST AHEAD OF IT WITH EASTWARD TREND EXPECTED IN TERMS OF MSTR THROUGH THURS NGT. MINOR DIFFERENCES IN EXACT TIMING OF WIND SHIFT (GIVE OR TAKE A FEW HOURS) WITH ALL MODELS GENERALLY AGREEING OF A SLOW PUSH AS WAVES MOVE ALONG THE FRONT. AREA OF POST FRONTAL SHOWERS/STORMS ARE EXPECTED TO DEVELOP TO THE WEST AND ENTER WESTERN AREAS DURING THE EVENING. COMBINATION OF SOME DRY AIR ENTRAINMENT AND LESS OPTIMAL TIME FRAME FOR FROPA MAY ALLOW FOR A DECREASE IN COVERAGE OF PRECIP INTO THE OVERNIGHT HOURS. MODELS THEN REFIRE SHOWERS IN MAINLY EASTERN AREAS ON FRIDAY AS MAIN ENERGY FINALLY DIGS IN AND PUSHES FRONT OUT OF THE AREA. WITH INCREASED CLOUD COVER AND CAA UNDERWAY HIGHS ON FRIDAY WILL BE A GOOD 15 TO 25 DEGREES COLDER THAN THURSDAY. SATURDAY THROUGH TUESDAY... CONFIDENCE IN FORECAST BEGINS TO WANE DURING THIS TIME FRAME WITH MODEL CAMP GENERALLY SPLIT ON HANDLING ON INTERACTION BETWEEN LONGWAVE TROUGH OVER THE GREAT LAKES AND TROPICAL CYCLONE SANDY OVER THE WEEKEND INTO NEXT WEEK. INITIALLY...CONTINUED NW TO N FLOW OVER THE LAKES WILL LIKELY KEEP LAKE EFFECT CLOUD COVER AND SOME CHANCES FOR SHOWERS AROUND...POSSIBLY MIXED WITH SNOW. EXACT TRAJECTORIES AND AMOUNT OF RESIDENT MSTR REMAIN IN QUESTION THIS FAR OUT. GENERALLY WENT WITH COMBO OF PREV AND CONSALL TO HANDLE THIS TIME FRAME. RAN PRETTY MUCH WITH EITHER ALLBLEND OF GUIDANCE OR CONSALL FOR MANY PARAMETERS INTO TUESDAY AS EXACT DETAILS OF EVOLUTION OF EAST COAST SYSTEM REMAIN IN FLUX. ECMWF/GEM HAVE REMAINED CONSISTENT ON A STRONG WESTWARD PULL OF THE TROPICAL SYSTEM INTO THE EASTERN STATES VS GFS/GEFS SENDING IT OUT TO SEA. GIVEN THE PATTERN OF LATE NOD GIVEN TO ECMWF/GEM...RESULTING IN ADDITION OF LOW END POPS TUESDAY WHEN PROXIMITY OF ANY WRAP AROUND MSTR WOULD BE MOST FAVORABLE. ALLBLEND RAN A BIT TOO HIGH SO WAS TEMPERED SOMEWHAT TO REMAIN CONSERVATIVE. && .AVIATION... 18Z TAFS...SEVERAL WEAK SHORT WAVES WILL CONTINUE TO ENHANCE SHOWERS AND ISOLATED THUNDERSTORMS THROUGH MID AFTERNOON. AFTER 21Z...THE MORE PRONOUNCED OF THESE SHORT WAVES SHOULD BEGIN TO SHIFT EAST OF THE TERMINALS...AND PRECIP COVERAGE IS EXPECTED TO DIMINISH AFTER THIS TIME. HAVE MAINTAINED TEMPO MVFR CIGS AT KSBN WHERE A PERIOD OF MORE SOLID RAIN SHOWERS IS EXPECTED THROUGH 20Z. ANOTHER STRONGER SHORT WAVE NEAR STL SHOULD MAINTAIN A TRACK PRIMARILY SOUTH OF THE TERMINALS...AND THUS WILL KEEP TAFS TONIGHT. DESPITE SOME WEAK SFC BASED INSTABILITY EXPECTED AGAIN FOR WEDNESDAY...BUILDING MID LEVEL HEIGHTS WILL RESULT IN DRY CONDITIONS. SOME INCREASE IN SOUTH WINDS TOWARD THE END OF THE PERIOD AS LOW LEVEL FLOW STRENGTHENS IN RESPONSE TO NEXT UPPER LEVEL TROUGH DIGGING ACROSS THE ROCKIES. && .IWX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... IN...NONE. MI...NONE. OH...NONE. LM...NONE. && $$ SHORT TERM...MARSILI LONG TERM...FISHER AVIATION...MARSILI
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS NORTHERN INDIANA
1238 AM EDT TUE OCT 23 2012 .AVIATION... A STATIONARY FRONT WAS JUST NORTH OF THE INDIANA LINE WITH SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS MOVING EAST ALONG AND NEAR THE FRONT. ADDED SOME TEMPO IFR CIGS AT SBN 10-14Z GIVEN SOME UPSTREAM IFR CONDITIONS AND THE ONGOING SHOWERS. THE LATEST GFS/LAMP GUIDANCE ALSO SUPPORTS IFR CONDITIONS. OTHERWISE...CONDITIONS SHOULD GRADUALLY IMPROVE LATER IN THE DAY AS WINDS CONTINUE FROM THE SOUTH. FWA SHOULD BE MAINLY VFR...ALTHOUGH A TEMPO IFR AREA IS POSSIBLE EARLY THIS MORNING. && .PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 320 PM EDT MON OCT 22 2012/ SHORT TERM... /TONIGHT THROUGH TUESDAY NIGHT/ COMPLEX SHORT TERM FORECAST GIVEN PROBLEMATIC MCV ROTATING THROUGH WESTERN LAKES THIS AFTERNOON. CONVECTION HAS FIRED AHEAD OF MAIN SHORT WAVE IN AREA OF STRONG THETA E ADVECTION WITH LOW LEVEL JET. SATELLITE AND RADAR MOSAIC SHOWS MCV DEVELOPED OVER NORTHERN IL AND LIFTING NORTH INTO WI. 12Z 4KM WRF WAS A TOTAL BUST WITH NO INDICATION OF THIS LINE OF CONVECTION AT 18Z. HRRR WAS PERFORMING WELL ON A FEW OF ITS RUNS AND GENERALLY FOLLOWED WITH SOME EXTRAPOLATION. MOST SPECTRAL GUIDANCE DID NOT MODEL MCV AND ASSOCIATED SUBSIDENCE IN ITS WAKE WHICH HAS LIMITED ANY FURTHER DEVELOPMENT. SPECTRAL MODELS SEEM OVER AGGRESSIVE WITH ADDITIONAL PCPN DEVELOPMENT THIS EVENING INTO EARLY OVERNIGHT HOURS IN AREA NEAR WARM FRONT BUT BETWEEN SYNOPTIC SHORT WAVES. HAVE TIMED CURRENT CONVECTION ACROSS CWA INTO EARLY EVENING HOURS WITH A DIMINISHING TREND. KEPT CHANCE POPS GOING ENTIRE AREA THIS EVENING. SECOND SHORT WAVE AND PV ANOMALY APPROACH LATE TONIGHT AND THIS FEATURE SLOWER THAN PREVIOUS RUNS. NOW LOOKS LIKE THIS WILL IMPACT MOST OF AREA ON TUESDAY. HAVE ADJUSTED TIMING/DETAIL OF POPS WITH LIKELY LATE TONIGHT AND TUE MORNING ALL BUT SE AREAS. KEPT A CHANCE ACROSS NORTHEAST TUE AFTERNOON WITH SHORT WAVE OVER THE AREA BUT MOVING EAST. TEMPS WILL REMAIN WARM THROUGH THE PERIOD WITH LOWS IN UPPER 50S TO LOWER 60S. HIGHS ON TUE AGAIN TRICKY WITH CLOUDS AND PCPN BUT SINCE WE MANAGED TO REACH 70 MOST AREAS TODAY SEE SIMILAR NUMBERS ON TUE WITH MID 70S POSSIBLE SOUTH WHERE RAIN ENDS IN MORNING. BLENDED GUIDANCE LOOKS GOOD. LONG TERM... /WEDNESDAY THROUGH MONDAY/ UNSEASONABLY WARM WEATHER WILL BE IN STORE INTO THURSDAY WITH CONTINUED SOUTHWESTERLY FLOW INTO THE REGION. MODELS IN GOOD AGREEMENT THROUGH THURSDAY WITH 850 MB TEMPS IN THE +15 TO +17 CELSIUS RANGE. SOUNDINGS WOULD SUGGEST THAT TEMPS WILL ONLY MIX THROUGH AROUND 900 MB YIELDING HIGHS IN THE MID TO UPPER 70S WEDS AND THURS AFTERNOON WHICH IS INLINE WITH PREV GRIDS AND NEAR OR ABOVE GUIDANCE. IF FULL MIX OUT THROUGH 850 MB OCCURS...TEMPS COULD JUMP INTO THE LOWER 80S. FORECAST BECOMES MORE MUDDLED THROUGH THE REMAINDER OF THE FORECAST IN TERMS OF HANDLING OF SEVERAL LARGE SCALE FEATURES. FIRST IS LARGE TROUGH WHICH WILL BE DIGGING INTO THE PLAINS WITH MAIN UPPER LEVEL SYSTEM IN CENTRAL CANADA. THIS FEATURE DRIVES A STRONG COLD FRONT THROUGH THE AREA IN THURS NGT/FRI TIME FRAME. FROM HERE THE MODELS BEGIN TO DIVERGE ON HANDLING OF PROGRESSIVENESS OF THE TROUGH. 12Z GFS HAS KEPT A POSITIVELY TILTED SYSTEM SWEEPING THROUGH AND COLDER AIR ARRIVING BEHIND IT WITH LITTLE LINGERING PRECIP. 00Z ECMWF STALLED THE FRONT ACROSS THE REGION WITH ADDITIONAL ENERGY MOVING ALONG IT TO BRING CHANCES INTO SATURDAY. 12Z GEFS/GEM/00Z ECMWF THEN INDICATE TROUGH BECOMES SOMEWHAT NEGATIVELY TILTED. THIS BRINGS TO LIGHT THE 2ND FEATURE OF CONCERN...WHAT WILL LIKELY BECOME TROPICAL SYSTEM SANDY LATER TODAY. MODELS GENERALLY INTENSIFY THE SYSTEM AND TRACK INTO THE WESTERN ATLANTIC. THIS WILL CAUSE A BLOCKY PATTER TO ESTABLISH WITH MODELS BOUNCING BACK AND FORTH ON POSSIBLE PHASING OF SOME OF THE TROPICAL ENERGY AND THE TROUGH...DEVELOPING A LARGE STORM SYSTEM THAT COULD BRING IN A BLAST OF COLD AIR AND CHANCES FOR RAIN OR SNOW INTO NEXT WEEK. 12Z ECMWF HAS BACKED OFF ON MORE WESTWARD SOLUTION OF THIS PHASING AND SOMEWHAT MORE REALISTIC BOMBING OUT OF THE SYSTEM OFF THE EAST COAST. COLDER AIR WILL STILL ARRIVE REGARDLESS WITH POTENTIAL FOR LAKE EFFECT POSSIBLY IN PLAY. HAVE TRIED TO KEEP FOR THE MOST PART WITH PREV GRIDS AND UNDERCUT GUIDANCE WITH TRENDS OF ALL MODELS STILL SUGGESTING A DROP TO WELL BELOW NORMAL TEMPS. REMOVED SOME OF THE MIXED PRECIP WORDING WITH 1000-850 MB THICKNESS VALUES GENERALLY IN THE 1300 TO 1310 DM RANGE. && .IWX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... IN...NONE. MI...NONE. OH...NONE. LM...NONE. && $$ SHORT TERM...LASHLEY LONG TERM...FISHER AVIATION...SKIPPER
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS PITTSBURGH PA
507 AM EDT TUE OCT 23 2012 .SYNOPSIS... A WARM FRONT STALLING ACROSS LAKE ERIE AND NEW YORK STATE WILL CAUSE SCATTERED SHOWERS TO MOVE EASTWARD ACROSS UPPER OHIO VALLEY INTO WEDNESDAY MORNING...MAINLY NORTH OF PITTSBURGH. HIGH PRESSURE WILL FOLLOW WITH DRY WARM WEATHER THURSDAY AND FRIDAY...BEFORE A STRONG COLD FRONT BRINGS SHOWERS THIS WEEKEND AND A COOL DOWN FOR MUCH OF NEXT WEEK. && .NEAR TERM /THROUGH WEDNESDAY/... BASED ON BLEND OF RECENT RADAR DATA AND RAP MODEL OUTPUT...HAVE ADJUSTED TIMING AND COVERAGE OF EASTBOUND ISOLATED SHOWERS ACROSS THE UPPER OHIO VALLEY INTO MIDDAY. LIGHTNING DATA SHOWS NIL CLOUD TO GROUND STRIKES...SO WILL CONTINUE NOT TO MENTION ANY THUNDER. USING BLEND OF NAM AND GFS MODEL OUTPUT TO ADJUST SHOWER COVERAGE THIS AFTERNOON AND TONIGHT...CONTINUED TO FORECAST A SLIGHTLY HIGHER COVERAGE OF SHOWERS NORTH OF PITTSBURGH...WITH LITTLE IF ANY SOUTH. RECENT SREF MODEL OUTPUT SHOWS BROAD HIGH PRESSURE ACROSS VIRGINIA AND THE CAROLINAS...EXPANDING NORTHWARD TOWARD THE UPPER OHIO VALLEY TONIGHT AND WEDNESDAY. SO EXPECT LAST OF THE WARM FRONTAL ISOLATED SHOWERS TO EXIT NORTHEAST PAST THE APPALACHIAN MOUNTAINS BY MIDDAY WEDNESDAY. HIGH PRESSURE SUBSIDENCE WILL PROMOTE DRY WARM CONDITIONS THE REST OF WEDNESDAY. CONTINUED FORECAST OF TEMPERATURES TO BE AS MUCH AS 15 DEGREES WARMER THAN NORMAL...AS SUPPORTED BY RECENT GFS AND NAM MOS. && .SHORT TERM /WEDNESDAY NIGHT THROUGH FRIDAY/... RECENT SREF MODEL OUTPUT SHOWS HIGH PRESSURE SUBSIDENCE MAINTAINING DRY WARM CONDITIONS ACROSS THE UPPER OHIO VALLEY THURSDAY AND FRIDAY. CONTINUED FORECAST OF MUCH WARMER THAN NORMAL TEMPERATURES THIS PERIOD WITH HIGHS THURSDAY NEARLY 20 DEGREES ABOVE NORMAL. && .LONG TERM /FRIDAY NIGHT THROUGH MONDAY/... BLEND OF RECENT GFS/ECMWF/NAEFS MODEL OUTPUT SHOW THE EASTWARD PASSAGE OF A STRONG COLD FRONT THROUGH THE UPPER OHIO VALLEY SATURDAY...WITH A CHANCE OF THE FIRST PREFRONTAL SHOWERS ARRIVING LATE FRIDAY NIGHT. HAVE CONTINUED MENTION OF A CHANCE OF SHOWERS SATURDAY INTO MONDAY...DUE TO FRONTAL DYNAMICS...POST SYSTEM COLD INSTABILITY...AND POSSIBLE INTERACTION WITH A DEEPENING COASTAL LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM. FORECASTED TEMPERATURES TO COOL SHARPLY WITH THE COLD FRONTAL PASSAGE SATURDAY...WITH TEMPERATURES GENERALLY 5 TO 10 DEGREES COLDER THAN NORMAL SUNDAY AND MONDAY. && .AVIATION /09Z TUESDAY THROUGH SATURDAY/... SLIGHTLY BELOW NORMAL CONFIDENCE WITH 06Z TAFS. AT FKL/DUJ...MAIN QUESTION IS WHETHER CONDITIONS MAY DROP TO MVFR DURING TIME PERIOD. ELSEWHERE...CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED TO REMAIN VFR...ALTHOUGH CLOUD HEIGHTS ARE A BIT IN QUESTION. MODEL SOUNDINGS REALLY DON/T SEEM TO HAVE MUCH AGREEMENT ON AMOUNT OF MOISTURE PRESENT. WILL STICK PRETTY CLOSE TO INHERITED BKN CIGS AT MID LEVELS. SCATTERED SHOWERS SHOULD NOT DROP MUCH FARTHER SOUTH THAN INTERSTATE 80. THINK THAT BULK OF RAINFALL WILL REMAIN NORTH OF FKL/DUJ...SO WILL KEEP EXPLICIT RAIN MENTION OUT OF TAFS AT THIS TIME. .OUTLOOK.../WEDNESDAY THROUGH SATURDAY/... VFR CONDITIONS WILL CONTINUE TO PREVAIL THROUGH DAYTIME FRIDAY. RESTRICTIONS CAN OCCUR FRIDAY NIGHT AND SATURDAY DUE TO SHOWERS ASSOCIATED WITH A STRONG COLD FRONT. && .PBZ WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... MD...NONE. OH...NONE. PA...NONE. WV...NONE. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS PITTSBURGH PA
200 AM EDT TUE OCT 23 2012 .SYNOPSIS... A WARM FRONT STALLING ACROSS LAKE ERIE AND NEW YORK STATE MAY CAUSE SCATTERED SHOWERS TO MOVE EASTWARD ACROSS UPPER OHIO VALLEY INTO WEDNESDAY MORNING...MAINLY NORTH OF PITTSBURGH. HIGH PRESSURE WILL FOLLOW WITH DRY WARM WEATHER THURSDAY AND FRIDAY...BEFORE A STRONG COLD FRONT BRINGS SHOWERS THIS WEEKEND AND A COOL DOWN FOR MUCH OF NEXT WEEK. && .NEAR TERM /THROUGH TONIGHT/... BASED ON BLEND OF RECENT RADAR DATA AND RAP MODEL OUTPUT...HAVE ADJUSTED TIMING AND COVERAGE OF EASTBOUND ISOLATED SHOWERS ACROSS THE UPPER OHIO VALLEY THROUGH THIS MORNING. LIGHTNING DATA SHOWS ISOLATED THUNDERSTORMS OVER NORTHERN OHIO...HOWEVER EXPECT THESE TO DIE BEFORE REACHING PLACES LIKE NEW PHILADELPHIA OHIO OR FRANKLIN PENNSYLVANIA. THEN USED BLEND OF NAM AND GFS MODEL OUTPUT TO ADJUST SHOWER COVERAGE THIS AFTERNOON AND TONIGHT. COMPOSITE OF THIS MODEL OUTPUT SHOW A HIGHER CHANCE OF SHOWERS NORTH OF PITTSBURGH THAN SOUTH. CONTINUED FORECAST OF TEMPERATURES TO BE AS MUCH AS 15 DEGREES WARMER THAN NORMAL...AS SUPPORTED BY RECENT GFS AND NAM MOS. && .SHORT TERM /WEDNESDAY THROUGH THURSDAY/... RECENT SREF MODEL OUTPUT SHOWS BROAD HIGH PRESSURE ACROSS VIRGINIA AND THE CAROLINAS...EXPANDING NORTHWARD TOWARD THE UPPER OHIO VALLEY THIS PERIOD. SO EXPECT LAST OF THE WARM FRONTAL ISOLATED SHOWERS TO EXIT NORTHEAST PAST THE APPALACHIAN MOUNTAINS BY MIDDAY WEDNESDAY. HIGH PRESSURE SUBSIDENCE WILL PROMOTE DRY WARM CONDITIONS THE REST OF WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAY. CONTINUED FORECAST OF WARMER THAN NORMAL TEMPERATURES THIS PERIOD WITH HIGHS THURSDAY NEARLY 20 DEGREES ABOVE NORMAL. && .LONG TERM /THURSDAY NIGHT THROUGH MONDAY/... THERE IS GFSE/ECMWF/NAEFS AGREEMENT THAT THE UPPER OHIO VALLEY WILL CONTINUE TO BE IN A DRY AND WARM SOUTHWESTERLY FLOW THURSDAY NIGHT THROUGH FRIDAY NIGHT. TEMPERATURES THROUGH THIS PERIOD WILL BE AROUND 15 DEGREES ABOVE NORMAL. A COLD FRONT IS PROGGED TO APPROACH FROM THE WEST ON FRIDAY NIGHT AND CROSS THE FORECAST AREA ON SATURDAY. THERE IS STILL SOME UNCERTAINTY IN REGARDS TO THE TIMING OF ITS PASSAGE AND DUE TO THIS THE FORECAST DOES NOT WAVER TOO FAR FROM THE HPC SOLUTION. AFTER THE COLD FRONT PASSES...THERE IS A QUITE A BIT OF UNCERTAINTY FOR THE LATE WEEKEND INTO MONDAY. THE 00Z ECMWF/12Z CANADIAN AMPLIFY A NORTHERN STREAM MID-LEVEL TROUGH AND BEGIN TO TAP INTO TROPICAL MOISTURE FROM WHAT IS NOW TD 18. MEANWHILE...THE 12Z GFS INDICATES A MUCH FLATTER PATTERN...TAKING THE TROPICAL SYSTEM FURTHER EASTWARD INTO THE ATLANTIC AND LEAVING THE UPPER OHIO VALLEY IN A SOUTHWESTERLY FLOW. GIVEN THE HIGH DEGREE OF UNCERTAINTY...THE FORECAST REMAINS FAIRLY CLOSE TO HPC AND ALSO CONSIDERS THE NAEFS MEAN WITH LOW CHANCE POPS AND TEMPS 5 TO 10 DEGREES BELOW SEASONAL NORMALS. && .AVIATION /05Z TUESDAY THROUGH SATURDAY/... SLIGHTLY BELOW NORMAL CONFIDENCE WITH 06Z TAFS. AT FKL/DUJ...MAIN QUESTION IS WHETHER CONDITIONS MAY DROP TO MVFR DURING TIME PERIOD. ELSEWHERE...CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED TO REMAIN VFR...ALTHOUGH CLOUD HEIGHTS ARE A BIT IN QUESTION. MODEL SOUNDINGS REALLY DON/T SEEM TO HAVE MUCH AGREEMENT ON AMOUNT OF MOISTURE PRESENT. WILL STICK PRETTY CLOSE TO INHERITED BKN CIGS AT MID LEVELS. SCATTERED SHOWERS SHOULD NOT DROP MUCH FARTHER SOUTH THAN INTERSTATE 80. THINK THAT BULK OF RAINFALL WILL REMAIN NORTH OF FKL/DUJ...SO WILL KEEP EXPLICIT RAIN MENTION OUT OF TAFS AT THIS TIME. .OUTLOOK.../WEDNESDAY THROUGH SATURDAY/... VFR CONDITIONS WILL CONTINUE TO PREVAIL UNTIL FRIDAY NIGHT AND SATURDAY WHEN A COLD FRONT APPROACHES FROM THE WEST AND BRINGS SHOWERS WITH RESTRICTIONS. && .PBZ WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... MD...NONE. OH...NONE. PA...NONE. WV...NONE. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS MARQUETTE MI
449 PM EDT TUE OCT 23 2012 .SHORT TERM...(THIS EVENING THROUGH WEDNESDAY) ISSUED AT 447 PM EDT TUE OCT 23 2012 12Z RAOBS/LATEST WV IMAGERY AND RUC ANALYSIS SHOW SW FLOW ALF OVER THE CENTRAL CONUS BTWN DEEP TROF ALONG THE PACIFIC COAST AND UPR RDG OVER ERN NAMERICA. THERE IS AN AREA OF SHRA/SOME TS OVER MAINLY THE WRN CWA ASSOCIATED WITH A DISTURBANCE MOVING NEWD TO THE N OF H85 WARM FNT STRETCHING FM THE NRN PLAINS INTO THE UPR MIDWEST AND ACCOMPANYING SHARPER H85-5 QVECTOR CNVGC/ISENTROPIC ASCENT BEST SHOWN ON THE 300K SFC IN THE PRESENCE OF STEEP H85-5 LAPSE RATES SHOWN ON THE 12Z MPX RAOB. SMALL HAIL FELL FM A FEW OF THE STRONGER CELLS OVER THE WRN CWA/NW WI EARLIER. THE E HALF OF THE CWA HAS BEEN MAINLY PCPN FREE WITH A DRIER/MORE STABLE PROFILE SHOWN ON THE 12Z APX RAOB. EXCEPT FOR A CLUSTER OF SHRA/EMBEDDED TS OVER SCNTRL WI...AREAS TO THE SW OF H85 WARM FNT ARE GENERALLY DRY WITH STRONG CAP SHOWN ON THE 12Z ABERDEEN SDAKOTA RAOB DOMINATING. HOWEVER... THERE IS QUITE A BIT OF LO CLD AND FOG WITH ABUNDANT LLVL MSTR/SFC DEWPTS AN UNSEASONABLY HI 55 TO 60. LATE THIS AFTN...AS AREA OF SHARPER ISENTROPIC ASCENT/DEEP LYR QVECTOR CNVGC SUPPORTING THE NMRS SHRA/ISOLD TS OVER THE WRN CWA EARLY THIS AFTN SHIFTS TO THE N...EXPECT DIMINISHING POPS S-N OVER THE W. WITH ABSENCE OF UPR SUPPORT FOR PCPN OVER THE E HALF... EXPECT ONLY ISOLD-SCT -SHRA IN THIS AREA. THE ONLY EXCEPTION MIGHT BE THE SCNTRL...WHERE AREA OF SHRA NOW OVER WI AND DRIFTING TO THE NE WILL BRUSH THE AREA. TONIGHT...AS MAIN SHRTWV IN THE NRN PLAINS MOVG NEWD WELL TO THE W LIFTS INTO SCNTRL CAN...UPR HGTS ARE FCST TO RISE SLOWLY OVER THE CWA WITH AREA OF DEEP LYR QVECTOR CNVGC LIFTING TO THE N AND AWAY FM UPR MI. WITH LACK OF DYANMIC SUPPORT AND FCST SDNGS HINTING AT MID LVL DRYING/CAPPING AS SHOWN ON THE ABERDEEN RAOB...SUSPECT THERE WL BE NOTHING MORE THAN ISOLD-SCT -SHRA WITH THE GREATER POPS THIS EVNG OVER THE KEWEENAW INTO NCNTRL LK SUP. OTRW...INFLUX OF LLVL MSTR WITH FLOW VEERING MORE TO THE S WL SUPPORT AREAS OF FOG... ESPECIALLY OVER THE CNTRL CWA WITH UPSLOPE SE VEERING S FLOW. FOG IN THIS AREA MIGHT BECOME DENSE. EXPECT LTL DIURNAL FALL OF TEMP WITH INFLUX OF LLVL MSTR. WED...COLD FNT ATTENDANT TO SHRTWV LIFTING TO THE NE THRU CNTRL CANADA WL LIMP INTO THE WRN ZNS IN THE MRNG. SINCE THERE WL BE LTL IN THE WAY OF LARGE SCALE FORCING AT THAT TIME...EXPECT NOTHING MORE THAN SCT -SHRA TO ACCOMPANY ITS ARRIVAL. HOWEVER...APRCH OF MORE SGNFT SHRTWV LIFTING OUT OF WRN TROF IN THE AFTN WL SUPPORT HIER POPS THERE IN THE AFTN...WITH LOWER POPS TO THE E TOWARD HIER H5 HGTS AND AWAY FM INCOMING DEEP LYR QVECTOR CVNGC/FGEN/MSTR CNVGC ALONG BNDRY. STEEP H7-5 LAPSE RATES SUPPORT MENTION OF TS. AREAS OF FOG WL LIKELY PERSIST MUCH OF THE DAY UNDER CONSIDERABLE CLD COVER...ESPECIALLY OVER THE CNTRL WITH PERSISTENT UPSLOPE LLVL FLOW. ALTHOUGH TEMPS WL BE WELL ABV NORMAL...TENDED TO LOWER GOING FCST MAX TEMPS A BIT TO ACCOUNT FOR EXPECTED FOG/CLD COVER. .LONG TERM...(WEDNESDAY NIGHT THROUGH TUESDAY) ISSUED AT 447 PM EDT TUE OCT 23 2012 THE 500MB RIDGE WILL BE JUST TO OUR EAST /STRETCHING THROUGH THE LOWER GREAT LAKES AND HUDSON BAY...WITH A WELL FORECASTED LOW PUSHING IN FROM CENTRAL CANADA. SW FLOW ALOFT WILL REMAIN OVERHEAD THROUGH SATURDAY NIGHT AS THE 500MB LOW SHIFTS FROM AROUND LAKE WINNIPEG AT 00Z FRIDAY TO S HUDSON BAY FRIDAY...BEFORE EJECTING N SATURDAY. THE BEST CHANCE OF SHOWERS THROUGH THE ENTIRE EXTENDED LOOKS TO BE WEDNESDAY NIGHT...THEN PUSHING W TO E DURING THE DAY THURSDAY AS THE ELONGATED SFC LOW STRETCHING FROM THE KEWEENAW THROUGH N TX AT 06Z THURSDAY DEEPENS SLIGHTLY AS IT PUSHES ACROSS LAKE SUPERIOR DURING THE AFTERNOON HOURS...AND INTO NE ONTARIO BY 00Z FRIDAY. A FEW THUNDERSTORMS WILL BE POSSIBLE MAINLY OVER THE W HALF WEDNESDAY NIGHT...THEN CENTRAL AND E THURSDAY. THE SWATH OF HEAVIEST RAIN /OVER AN INCH FROM WEDNESDAY EVENING THROUGH THURSDAY EVENING/ LOOKS TO HAVE SHIFTED SLIGHTLY WESTWARD. THIS INCLUDES AREAS FROM IWD THROUGH CRYSTAL FALLS...AND N THROUGH THE KEWEENAW PENINSULA. THE FAR EAST THIRD OF THE CWA MAY BE LUCKY TO RECEIVE HALF AN INCH BY THE TIME IT IS DONE. A FEW SNOWFLAKES COULD MIX IN OVER INTERIOR W LOCATIONS THURSDAY NIGHT AS COLD AIR WRAPS IN. THE 23/00Z CANADIAN BRINGS A SECONDARY WAVE THAT LINGERED OVER LAKE WINNIPEG AT 06Z FRIDAY...SLOWLY PUSHING IT TO JUST NW OF LAKE SUPERIOR BY DAYBREAK SATURDAY...AND STILL JUST N OF THE LAKE SUNDAY AFTERNOON. WHILE A TROUGH WILL LIKELY RESIDE NEAR LAKE SUPERIOR THROUGH MUCH OF THIS TIME PERIOD...THE CANADIAN LOOKS TO BE A BIT TOO STRONG/DEEP WITH THE FEATURE /AT LEAST A LITTLE TOO EARLY/. AS A RESULT...WITH LEAN CLOSER TO THE ECMWF...AND UTILIZE A LITTLE LESS OF THE CANADIAN OUTPUT FROM FRIDAY AFTERNOON ON. THE 500MB TROUGH WILL LINGER OVERHEAD FROM SATURDAY THROUGH AT LEAST SUNDAY NIGHT...AS A SFC HIGH PUSHES IN FROM THE W. BY SUNDAY NIGHT THE GFS AND ECMWF SPLIT WAYS...ESPECIALLY WITH THE HANDLING OF THE SYSTEM OFF THE EAST COAST. A MIX OF RAIN AND MOSTLY SNOW WILL BE POSSIBLE SATURDAY...WITH ONSHORE ENHANCEMENT SATURDAY NIGHT OVER THE KEWEENAW PENINSULA AS 850MB TEMPS COOL TO AROUND -9C. LOOKING AT THE FCST MODELS CLOSER TO HOME THE GFS REMAINS MORE PROGRESSIVE...AS AN ADDITIONAL 500MB LOW NEARS FROM S CENTRAL CANADA MONDAY NIGHT. THE RESULT WOULD BE BRIEF RIDGING OVER THE UPPER GREAT LAKES MONDAY. THE ECMWF ON THE OTHER HAND SINKS/WRAPS UP A LOW OVER THE OHIO VALLEY. WILL NOT GET TOO SPECIFIC...BUT WILL LIMIT THE QUICKER INFLUENCE OF THE NORTHERN LOW NEARING THE CWA ON DAY 6/7. && .AVIATION...(FOR THE 18Z TAFS THROUGH 18Z WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON) ISSUED AT 128 PM EDT TUE OCT 23 2012 AS VEERING LLVL FLOW SHIFTING TO THE S ADVECTS MORE LLVL MSTR INTO THE AREA...EXPECT IFR CONDITIONS TO PREDOMINATE THIS FCST PERIOD. DOWNSLOPE NATURE OF THE FLOW MAY LIMIT THE DROP IN CIG/VSBY AT CMX/IWD AT TIMES THIS AFTN/TNGT...BUT WEAKENING WINDS WITH APRCH OF LO PRES TROF LATER IN THE TAF PERIOD INDICATES LIFR CONDITIONS WL PREDOMINATE AT THOSE SITES ON WED MRNG. AT SAW...THE SE-S WIND WL UPSLOPE AND PRESENT A GREATER CHANCE FOR LIFR CONDITIONS. OTRW... -SHRA WL IMPACT MAINLY CMX THIS AFTN...AND THERE COULD BE A TS THERE AS WELL. && .MARINE...(FOR THE 4 PM LAKE SUPERIOR FORECAST ISSUANCE) ISSUED AT 447 PM EDT TUE OCT 23 2012 EXPECT E WINDS UP TO 30 KTS THIS EVENING...WITH A FEW GALE FORCE GUSTS TO 35 KTS WHERE TERRAIN ENHANCES THESE WINDS OVER THE NCENTRAL. ALTHOUGH THE STRONGER SE FLOW WILL PERSIST OVER THE E HALF OVERNIGHT...THE WINDS WILL DIMINISH OVER THE W AFTER MIDNIGHT AS SHARPER PRES GRADIENT SHIFTS TO THE NE IN ADVANCE OF AN APPROACHING COLD FRONT. THIS WEAKER PRES GRADIENT WILL OVERSPREAD THE ENTIRE LAKE ON WED...RESULTING IN DIMINISHING WINDS EVEN OVER THE E HALF. SOME FOG IS LIKELY TO DEVELOP OVER THE W FOLLOWING THE COLD FROPA. A NEW LOW WILL ORGANIZE ACROSS THE CENTRAL PLAINS WEDNESDAY AND LIFT NORTHEASTWARD ACROSS LAKE SUPERIOR THURSDAY...WITH A FEW GALE FORCE GUSTS OF 35KTS POSSIBLE OVER MAINLY CENTRAL LAKE SUPERIOR THURSDAY NIGHT. A RIDGE OF HIGH PRESSURE WILL THEN BUILD INTO THE REGION FRIDAY THROUGH SUNDAY. && .MQT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... UPPER MICHIGAN... NONE. LAKE SUPERIOR... NONE. LAKE MICHIGAN... NONE. && $$ SHORT TERM...KC LONG TERM...KF AVIATION...KC MARINE...KC
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS TWIN CITIES/CHANHASSEN MN
916 PM CDT WED OCT 24 2012 .UPDATE... A TWO HEADED CONCERN CONTINUES TONIGHT. THE FIRST IS THE SEVERE WEATHER RISK WHICH APPEARS CONDITIONAL THIS EVENING. THE FRONT REMAINS STATIONARY FROM CENTRAL IA TO NEAR ROCHESTER...EAU CLAIRE..AND NC WI. THE ATMOSPHERE REMAINS RATHER UNSTABLE EAST OF THE FRONT WITH TEMPERATURES STILL IN THE 60S AND 70S. ELEVATED INSTABILITY IS ALSO PRESENT BEHIND THE FRONT AS FAR WEST AS THE TWIN CITIES. CELLS HAVE BEGUN TO GROW MORE NUMEROUS IN THE PAST HOUR OR SO ACROSS NERN IA AND FAR SERN MN WHICH COULD BE A SIGN THE CAP IS ERODING SLOWLY. WARM MID LEVEL TEMPERATURES AHEAD OF THE FRONT AND MOST OF THE FORCING BEING CONFINED TO BEHIND THE FRONT HAVE INHIBITED SEVERE ACTIVITY SO FAR. AS THE IMPULSE IN THE PLAINS CONTINUES TO TRANSLATE EASTWARD...MID LEVEL TEMPS SHOULD COOL AND ALLOW THE CAP TO BREAK. LARGE HAIL IS THE MAIN THREAT...BUT A TORNADO CANNOT BE RULED OUT EITHER GIVEN IMPRESSIVE VEERING PROFILES. AFOREMENTIONED STEEP MID LEVEL LAPSE RATES POST FRONTAL COULD ALSO SUPPORT SOME HAIL...MAINLY EAST OF A LINE FROM AEL TO RNH. LATER TONIGHT...WIDESPREAD PRECIPITATION WILL DEVELOP ACROSS SRN AND CNTRL MN AS THE FINAL WAVE EJECTS INTO THE UPPER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY. PRECIPITATION SHOULD START AS ALL RAIN...BUT WILL GRADUALLY TRANSITION TO SNOW FROM WEST TO EAST THROUGH THE LATE OVERNIGHT INTO THURSDAY MORNING AS COLDER AIR WRAPS INTO THE SYSTEM. MODELS ARE IN FAIRLY GOOD AGREEMENT WITH THE POTENTIAL FOR ACCUMULATING SNOW WEST OF A LINE FROM REDWOOD FALLS TO ST CLOUD DURING THIS TIME. HOWEVER...THE 00Z NAM NOW HAS THE 0C 925 MB LINE AS FAR EAST AS FAIRMONT...MANKATO...AND CAMBRIDGE - SIGNALING THE POTENTIAL FOR MAX ACCUMULATIONS ALONG AN AXIS FROM REDWOOD FALLS TO ST CLOUD. SNOW MAY FALL AT A DECENT RATE WITH THE AMOUNT OF FRONTOGENETIC FORCING AND MOISTURE PRESENT. THIS COINCIDES WITH THE DGZ...SO DENDRITES ARE EXPECTED. THE BIG QUESTION IS WHEN IT WILL TRANSITION AND HOW COLD TEMPERATURES ULTIMATELY GET. WITH THE WARMER GROUND TEMPERATURES AND WET CONDITIONS...IT WILL TAKE AN EFFORT TO GET SNOW TO STICK INITIALLY WITH TEMPS HOVERING AROUND 32. BRIDGES AND OVERPASSES WILL BE THE FIRST TO FREEZE...WITH ELEVATED AND GRASSY SURFACES LIKELY TO EXPERIENCE THE ACCUMULATING SNOW. WITH SO MANY INHIBITING FACTORS FOR ACCUMULATING SNOW ON ROADWAYS...WILL HOLD OFF ON A WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY AND ADDRESS THE THREAT WITH A SPECIAL WEATHER STATEMENT. BORGHOFF && .PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 346 PM CDT WED OCT 24 2012/ OVERVIEW...NEARLY ALL OF THE FORECAST CONCERNS ARE CONFINED TO THE NEXT 18-24 HOURS WITH CURRENT INVERTED TROUGH IN THE PLAINS AND UPPER MISSISSIPPI RIVER VALLEY. DRIZZLE WILL BE REPLACED BY STEADY MODERATE RAIN WITH EMBEDDED THUNDERSTORMS AS TROUGH APPROACHES AND SURFACE CYCLONE DEVELOPS AS IT LEFTS NORTH. SEVERE WEATHER STILL REMAINS...BUT MAIN OVER AREA OF CONCERN IS TO THE SOUTHEAST OF THE MPX FORECAST AREA. 12Z GFS/NAM HAVE BOTH TRENDED THE CHANGE OVER TO SNOW A LITTLE FASTER LATE TONIGHT...SO 1-2 INCHES OF SLUSH IS STILL POSSIBLE ACROSS PORTIONS OF CENTRAL MINNESOTA. BROAD AREA OF MSLP PRESSURE FALLS ACROSS EASTERN MN AND WESTERN WI THIS AFTERNOON...ON THE ORDER OF 0.5MB PER HOUR. SO THE SYSTEM IS EVOLVING ON COURSE WITH THE MOST OF THE AVAILABLE 12Z MODEL OUTPUT. THE LAST THREE RUNS OF THE NAM HAVE BEEN REMARKABLY CONSISTENT WITH THE LOW TRACK. FURTHERMORE...THE 12Z NAM AND ECMWF ARE ALSO VERY ALIKE IN HOW THEY EVOLVE THINGS OVER THE NEXT 24 HOURS...SO TRENDED THE POPS/WEATHER TOWARD A BLEND OF THE TWO. THE GFS HAS BEEN ON THE SLOWER END OF THE MODEL SOLUTION ENVELOPE FOR THE PAST COUPLE DAYS NOW AND IT ACTUALLY IS STILL PROBABLY ABOUT 3 HOURS SLOWER THE NAM AND ECMWF. WESTERN EDGE OF 500-1000 J/KG MUCAPE AND BEST LI NEAR ZERO EXTENDS ROUGHLY FROM BLUE EARTH TO THE WESTERN TWIN CITIES METRO...TO HINCKLEY. THIS INSTABILITY AXIS HAS SLOWLY CREPT EAST TODAY...BUT WITH LITTLE MOVEMENT OVER THE PAST COUPLE HOURS. THIS TO GO ALONG WITH TEMPERATURES THAT HAVE UNDERACHIEVED GIVEN THE FOG AND STRATUS. OUTSIDE OF WEST CENTRAL WI AND SOUTHEAST MN...SURFACE WINDS ARE NORTHERLY AND AXIS OF SURFACE BASED CAPE IS IN SOUTHEAST MN...WISCONSIN AND EASTERN IA. THUS...THE SEVERE THREAT LOOKS MAINLY SOUTHEAST OF THE AREA. ACTUALLY SURPRISED SPC DIDN`T NUDGE THE SLIGHT RISK A BIT FARTHER EAST WITH THE 20Z UPDATE...BUT STILL CLOSE I SUPPOSE. ONE THINGS FOR SURE HOWEVER...SFC-850MB FGEN IS REALLY CRANKING UP ACROSS EASTERN MN AND WESTERN WI...THUS THE EXPANSE OF MORE LIGHT SHOWERS...AS OPPOSED TO DRIZZLE. THIS TREND WILL CONTINUE TONIGHT AND UPDRAFTS SHOULD BECOME MORE VIGOROUS AS UPPER WAVE DRAWS NEARER AND MID LEVEL TEMPS COOL. 850MB MOISTURE TRANSPORT SHOWS A RIBBON OF MOISTURE STREAMING FROM SW-NE ACROSS WESTERN WI ALL NIGHT. THE COBB/CARIBOU SNOW TECHNIQUE OFF THE NAM/GFS HAS TRENDED A BIT MORE FAVORABLE FOR SNOW IN THE PAST COUPLE RUNS - EVEN BRINGING ACCUMULATIONS NEAR ONE INCH AS FAR EAST AS THE WESTERN TWIN CITIES SUBURBS BY MID MORNING TOMORROW. NEAR SURFACE TEMPS ARE A CONCERN...ESPECIALLY IN THE METRO. EVEN WITH COLLAPSING HEIGHTS AND SOLID FORCING...WONDERING IF WE MIGHT JUST BE A FEW DEGREES TOO WARM IN THE LOWEST 1000 FT OR SO FOR MUCH SNOW. HOWEVER...MUCH OF WESTERN MN COULD SEE AN INCH OF SLUSHY ACCUMULATION AND POSSIBLY A COUPLE INCHES DEPENDING ON HOW FAST THE CHANGEOVER HAPPENS TONIGHT. HPC WWD HAS 1-2" IN WESTERN PORTIONS OF THE MPX FORECAST AREA. WITH THE SLIGHTLY FASTER NAM/EC BLENDED SOLUTION...HAVE MUCH OF THE PRECIP OUT OF MN BY 18Z TOMORROW...AND 00Z IN WESTERN WI. MUCH COOLER NORTHWEST FLOW BEHIND THE SYSTEM AND CANADIAN HIGH SETTLING IN SUGGEST A COLD WEEKEND ACROSS THE AREA. HAVE WIDESPREAD 20S FOR LOWS IN THE FORECAST AREA...BUT THINKING IF WE GET A GOOD RADIATIONAL COOLING NIGHT SATURDAY OR SUNDAY TEENS ARE QUITE POSSIBLE OUTSIDE OF THE CORE TWIN CITIES METRO. NOT A WHOLE LOT IN THE WAY OF PRECIP ONCE YOU GET PAST TOMORROW...BUT INCOMING SHORTWAVE ENERGY SATURDAY NIGHT COULD BRING LIGHT SNOW SHOWERS TO MN/WI. THE BELOW NORMAL TEMPS ARE EXPECTED THROUGH THE EXTENDED. && .AVIATION.../00Z TAF ISSUANCE/ FRONT IN THE PROCESS OF CLEARING EAU AT THE START OF PERIOD. STRONG FRONTAL FORCING BEHIND THE FRONT ACROSS WRN WI HAS RESULTED IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF A LINE OF -TSRA FROM NRN INTO CENTRAL WI THAT WILL CONTINUE TO PUSH EAST. IN ITS WAKE...AREA WILL SEE A BREAK FROM ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF DRIZZLE UNTIL MAIN WAVE SWINGS THROUGH TONIGHT...ALONG WITH SEVERAL HOURS OF VFR CONDS FOR CENTRAL/WRN MN PER OBS AND SREF PROBS FOR CIGS LESS THAN 3K FT. HI RES MODELS ALL SIMILAR WITH SHIELD OF -RA COMING OUT OF THE OMAHA AREA...AND HEADING UP INTO SRN MN INTO WRN WI. USED HRRR/ARW REFL FORECASTS TO TIME RETURN OF RAIN AFTER 09Z. P-TYPE WILL ALSO BE AN ISSUE FOR AXN/RWF/STC. AGAIN HI-RES MODELS ALONG WITH THE NAM ALL SIMILAR WITH CHANGING PRECIP OVER TO SNOW BY THE MORNING. IN ADDITION...THE HRRR SHOWS A BAND OF 2-4 INCHES OF SNOW FROM GRANITE FALL TO LONG PRAIRIE WEST...WITH THE 18Z NAM SHOWING A SIMILAR BAND SLIGHTLY FARTHER EAST. FAVORED A NAM FORECAST AT THIS POINT...INDICATING 3/4SM -SN AT RWF...BUT CONFIDENCE IS INCREASING THAT AXN AND/OR RWF WILL SEE A PERIOD OF 1/2SM OR LESS MODERATE SNOW IN THE MORNING /SEE SNOW OBS IN WRN NEB/ WITH A SLUSHY INCH OR TWO OF ACCUMULATIONS. THIS PRECIP WILL BE ACCOMPANIED BY IFR/LIFR CIGS. FORTUNATELY...THIS BAND WILL BE FAIRLY TRANSIENT...QUICKLY MOVING ACROSS MN DURING THE MORNING AND WI TERMINALS IN THE AFTERNOON. ALL TERMINALS WILL LIKELY BE VFR/SKC BY THE END OF THE TAF. FOR WINDS...GRADIENT WILL BE TIGHT...SO LOOKS GOOD FOR SUSTAINED WINDS UP AROUND 15 KTS...WITH MIX DOWN POTENTIAL FROM THE NAM SHOWING GUSTS UP TO 30 KTS POSSIBLE. KMSP...AT THE MOMENT...EXPECT NW WINDS TO BRING HIGH MVFR/VFR CONDITIONS NW OF FIELD DOWN BETWEEN 2 AND 4Z...THOUGH SREF MVFR CIG PROBS DO SHOW THESE CONDITIONS MAKING IT TO MSP AND NOT MUCH FARTHER. REGARDLESS OF WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE HIGHER CIGS...THEY WILL GO BACK IFR WITH THE ARRIVAL OF THE NEXT ROUND OF PRECIP...WHICH THE HRRR BRINGS IN AT ABOUT 10Z. AS THE PRECIP IS MOVING OUT...SOUNDINGS DO INDICATE BEING COLD ENOUGH FOR APOSSIBLE RASN MIX BETWEEN 15Z AND 18Z..BUT AS MENTIONED IN DISCUSSION ABOVE...THERE ARE QUESTIONS IF THE LOWEST LEVELS OF THE ATMO WILL COOL ENOUGH TO ALLOW SNOW TO REACH THE GROUND AND GIVEN THE UNCERTAINTIES...LEFT IT OUT FOR NOW. /OUTLOOK FOR KMSP/ FRI...VFR. WINDS WNW 10G20KTS. SAT...VFR. WINDS LGT AND VRB. SUN...VFR. SLIGHT CHANCE -RASH. WINDS SE AT 5 KTS. && .MPX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... MN...NONE. WI...NONE. && $$ CLF/MPG
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS TWIN CITIES/CHANHASSEN MN
736 PM CDT WED OCT 24 2012 .UPDATE... 00Z AVIATION DISCUSSION ADDED BELOW. && .DISCUSSION... OVERVIEW...NEARLY ALL OF THE FORECAST CONCERNS ARE CONFINED TO THE NEXT 18-24 HOURS WITH CURRENT INVERTED TROUGH IN THE PLAINS AND UPPER MISSISSIPPI RIVER VALLEY. DRIZZLE WILL BE REPLACED BY STEADY MODERATE RAIN WITH EMBEDDED THUNDERSTORMS AS TROUGH APPROACHES AND SURFACE CYCLONE DEVELOPS AS IT LEFTS NORTH. SEVERE WEATHER STILL REMAINS...BUT MAIN OVER AREA OF CONCERN IS TO THE SOUTHEAST OF THE MPX FORECAST AREA. 12Z GFS/NAM HAVE BOTH TRENDED THE CHANGE OVER TO SNOW A LITTLE FASTER LATE TONIGHT...SO 1-2 INCHES OF SLUSH IS STILL POSSIBLE ACROSS PORTIONS OF CENTRAL MINNESOTA. BROAD AREA OF MSLP PRESSURE FALLS ACROSS EASTERN MN AND WESTERN WI THIS AFTERNOON...ON THE ORDER OF 0.5MB PER HOUR. SO THE SYSTEM IS EVOLVING ON COURSE WITH THE MOST OF THE AVAILABLE 12Z MODEL OUTPUT. THE LAST THREE RUNS OF THE NAM HAVE BEEN REMARKABLY CONSISTENT WITH THE LOW TRACK. FURTHERMORE...THE 12Z NAM AND ECMWF ARE ALSO VERY ALIKE IN HOW THEY EVOLVE THINGS OVER THE NEXT 24 HOURS...SO TRENDED THE POPS/WEATHER TOWARD A BLEND OF THE TWO. THE GFS HAS BEEN ON THE SLOWER END OF THE MODEL SOLUTION ENVELOPE FOR THE PAST COUPLE DAYS NOW AND IT ACTUALLY IS STILL PROBABLY ABOUT 3 HOURS SLOWER THE NAM AND ECMWF. WESTERN EDGE OF 500-1000 J/KG MUCAPE AND BEST LI NEAR ZERO EXTENDS ROUGHLY FROM BLUE EARTH TO THE WESTERN TWIN CITIES METRO...TO HINCKLEY. THIS INSTABILITY AXIS HAS SLOWLY CREPT EAST TODAY...BUT WITH LITTLE MOVEMENT OVER THE PAST COUPLE HOURS. THIS TO GO ALONG WITH TEMPERATURES THAT HAVE UNDERACHIEVED GIVEN THE FOG AND STRATUS. OUTSIDE OF WEST CENTRAL WI AND SOUTHEAST MN...SURFACE WINDS ARE NORTHERLY AND AXIS OF SURFACE BASED CAPE IS IN SOUTHEAST MN...WISCONSIN AND EASTERN IA. THUS...THE SEVERE THREAT LOOKS MAINLY SOUTHEAST OF THE AREA. ACTUALLY SURPRISED SPC DIDN`T NUDGE THE SLIGHT RISK A BIT FARTHER EAST WITH THE 20Z UPDATE...BUT STILL CLOSE I SUPPOSE. ONE THINGS FOR SURE HOWEVER...SFC-850MB FGEN IS REALLY CRANKING UP ACROSS EASTERN MN AND WESTERN WI...THUS THE EXPANSE OF MORE LIGHT SHOWERS...AS OPPOSED TO DRIZZLE. THIS TREND WILL CONTINUE TONIGHT AND UPDRAFTS SHOULD BECOME MORE VIGOROUS AS UPPER WAVE DRAWS NEARER AND MID LEVEL TEMPS COOL. 850MB MOISTURE TRANSPORT SHOWS A RIBBON OF MOISTURE STREAMING FROM SW-NE ACROSS WESTERN WI ALL NIGHT. THE COBB/CARIBOU SNOW TECHNIQUE OFF THE NAM/GFS HAS TRENDED A BIT MORE FAVORABLE FOR SNOW IN THE PAST COUPLE RUNS - EVEN BRINGING ACCUMULATIONS NEAR ONE INCH AS FAR EAST AS THE WESTERN TWIN CITIES SUBURBS BY MID MORNING TOMORROW. NEAR SURFACE TEMPS ARE A CONCERN...ESPECIALLY IN THE METRO. EVEN WITH COLLAPSING HEIGHTS AND SOLID FORCING...WONDERING IF WE MIGHT JUST BE A FEW DEGREES TOO WARM IN THE LOWEST 1000 FT OR SO FOR MUCH SNOW. HOWEVER...MUCH OF WESTERN MN COULD SEE AN INCH OF SLUSHY ACCUMULATION AND POSSIBLY A COUPLE INCHES DEPENDING ON HOW FAST THE CHANGEOVER HAPPENS TONIGHT. HPC WWD HAS 1-2" IN WESTERN PORTIONS OF THE MPX FORECAST AREA. WITH THE SLIGHTLY FASTER NAM/EC BLENDED SOLUTION...HAVE MUCH OF THE PRECIP OUT OF MN BY 18Z TOMORROW...AND 00Z IN WESTERN WI. MUCH COOLER NORTHWEST FLOW BEHIND THE SYSTEM AND CANADIAN HIGH SETTLING IN SUGGEST A COLD WEEKEND ACROSS THE AREA. HAVE WIDESPREAD 20S FOR LOWS IN THE FORECAST AREA...BUT THINKING IF WE GET A GOOD RADIATIONAL COOLING NIGHT SATURDAY OR SUNDAY TEENS ARE QUITE POSSIBLE OUTSIDE OF THE CORE TWIN CITIES METRO. NOT A WHOLE LOT IN THE WAY OF PRECIP ONCE YOU GET PAST TOMORROW...BUT INCOMING SHORTWAVE ENERGY SATURDAY NIGHT COULD BRING LIGHT SNOW SHOWERS TO MN/WI. THE BELOW NORMAL TEMPS ARE EXPECTED THROUGH THE EXTENDED. && .AVIATION.../00Z TAF ISSUANCE/ FRONT IN THE PROCESS OF CLEARING EAU AT THE START OF PERIOD. STRONG FRONTAL FORCING BEHIND THE FRONT ACROSS WRN WI HAS RESULTED IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF A LINE OF -TSRA FROM NRN INTO CENTRAL WI THAT WILL CONTINUE TO PUSH EAST. IN ITS WAKE...AREA WILL SEE A BREAK FROM ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF DRIZZLE UNTIL MAIN WAVE SWINGS THROUGH TONIGHT...ALONG WITH SEVERAL HOURS OF VFR CONDS FOR CENTRAL/WRN MN PER OBS AND SREF PROBS FOR CIGS LESS THAN 3K FT. HI RES MODELS ALL SIMILAR WITH SHIELD OF -RA COMING OUT OF THE OMAHA AREA...AND HEADING UP INTO SRN MN INTO WRN WI. USED HRRR/ARW REFL FORECASTS TO TIME RETURN OF RAIN AFTER 09Z. P-TYPE WILL ALSO BE AN ISSUE FOR AXN/RWF/STC. AGAIN HI-RES MODELS ALONG WITH THE NAM ALL SIMILAR WITH CHANGING PRECIP OVER TO SNOW BY THE MORNING. IN ADDITION...THE HRRR SHOWS A BAND OF 2-4 INCHES OF SNOW FROM GRANITE FALL TO LONG PRAIRIE WEST...WITH THE 18Z NAM SHOWING A SIMILAR BAND SLIGHTLY FARTHER EAST. FAVORED A NAM FORECAST AT THIS POINT...INDICATING 3/4SM -SN AT RWF...BUT CONFIDENCE IS INCREASING THAT AXN AND/OR RWF WILL SEE A PERIOD OF 1/2SM OR LESS MODERATE SNOW IN THE MORNING /SEE SNOW OBS IN WRN NEB/ WITH A SLUSHY INCH OR TWO OF ACCUMULATIONS. THIS PRECIP WILL BE ACCOMPANIED BY IFR/LIFR CIGS. FORTUNATELY...THIS BAND WILL BE FAIRLY TRANSIENT...QUICKLY MOVING ACROSS MN DURING THE MORNING AND WI TERMINALS IN THE AFTERNOON. ALL TERMINALS WILL LIKELY BE VFR/SKC BY THE END OF THE TAF. FOR WINDS...GRADIENT WILL BE TIGHT...SO LOOKS GOOD FOR SUSTAINED WINDS UP AROUND 15 KTS...WITH MIX DOWN POTENTIAL FROM THE NAM SHOWING GUSTS UP TO 30 KTS POSSIBLE. KMSP...AT THE MOMENT...EXPECT NW WINDS TO BRING HIGH MVFR/VFR CONDITIONS NW OF FIELD DOWN BETWEEN 2 AND 4Z...THOUGH SREF MVFR CIG PROBS DO SHOW THESE CONDITIONS MAKING IT TO MSP AND NOT MUCH FARTHER. REGARDLESS OF WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE HIGHER CIGS...THEY WILL GO BACK IFR WITH THE ARRIVAL OF THE NEXT ROUND OF PRECIP...WHICH THE HRRR BRINGS IN AT ABOUT 10Z. AS THE PRECIP IS MOVING OUT...SOUNDINGS DO INDICATE BEING COLD ENOUGH FOR APOSSIBLE RASN MIX BETWEEN 15Z AND 18Z..BUT AS MENTIONED IN DISCUSSION ABOVE...THERE ARE QUESTIONS IF THE LOWEST LEVELS OF THE ATMO WILL COOL ENOUGH TO ALLOW SNOW TO REACH THE GROUND AND GIVEN THE UNCERTAINTIES...LEFT IT OUT FOR NOW. /OUTLOOK FOR KMSP/ FRI...VFR. WINDS WNW 10G20KTS. SAT...VFR. WINDS LGT AND VRB. SUN...VFR. SLIGHT CHANCE -RASH. WINDS SE AT 5 KTS. && .MPX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... MN...NONE. WI...NONE. && $$ CLF/MPG
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS TWIN CITIES/CHANHASSEN MN
315 AM CDT TUE OCT 23 2012 .DISCUSSION... SHRTWV ACROSS EASTERN SD/NE NEBRASKA ALONG WITH AMPLE MOISTURE SURGING NORTHWARD FROM EARLIER CONVECTION ACROSS SOUTHERN IA...HAS LED TO MORE NUMEROUS SHRA/TSRA DEVELOPMENT ACROSS S MN. IT LOOKS AS THOUGH THESE STORMS WERE ABLE TO TAP SOME ELEVATED INSTABILITY ACROSS S MN DURING THE OVERNIGHT HRS. HOWEVER...THIS SHOULD BE SHORT LIVED AS DEEPER MOISTURE WILL LIFT NORTHWARD ALLOWING FOR MAINLY -DZ/FG TO PERSIST ACROSS S MN BEFORE DRIER AIR BEGINS TO EVADE FROM THE CENTRAL PLAINS. THE DRIER AIR IS ALSO ANOTHER PROBLEM AS THE FG/STRATUS HAS DEVELOPED AS FAR SOUTH AS KANSAS WHICH MAY CONTINUE THE LOWER CLDS/FG IN S MN THEN PREVIOUS FORECAST THAT HAD SOME SUNSHINE THIS AFTN. BIGGEST FACTOR FOR CONTINUING FG/LOW CLDS THRU MIDDAY IS WHETHER THE DEPTH OF THE STRATUS ACROSS NE/KS IS SHALLOW ENOUGH TO MIX OUT. WITH A MORE PESSIMISTIC FORECAST ON CLD CVR...HAD LOWERED AFTN TEMPS A FEW DEGREES. MAINLY FOLLOWING A SURGE OF HIGHER DEW PTS WHICH WILL LEAD TO TEMPS IN THE 60S...WITH A FEW 70S ALONG THE IA BORDER. AFT THE MORNING CONVECTION...MOST OF THE SHORT TERM FORECAST WILL DEAL WITH THE STRONG SHRTWV/LONG WAVE TROUGH ACROSS THE WESTERN U.S. AND HOW IT WILL TRANSLATE ACROSS THE PLAINS...AND INTO THE UPPER MIDWEST BY MIDWEEK. MODELS ARE DEPICTING SEVERAL WEAK SHRTWV/S RIDING NE ALONG A NEARLY STATIONARY FRONTAL BOUNDARY LATER TONIGHT ACROSS EASTERN MN. ALONG AND AHEAD OF THIS FRONT...VERY MILD AIR WILL LEAD TO ADDITIONAL CONVECTION...BUT UNCERTAINTIES EXIST ON HOW WIDESPREAD THE ACTIVITY BECOMES IN THE NEXT 24 HRS. WILL LEAN TOWARD ONLY CHC POPS THROUGH LATE TONIGHT...BEFORE THE MAIN SHRTWV AND UPPER LEVEL SUPPORT SHOULD INDUCE A LONG AREA OF PRECIPITATION ACROSS THE UPPER MIDWEST. PRECIPITABLE WATER VALUES ARE OVER ONE INCH ALONG AND SOUTH OF THIS FRONT...SO RAINFALL AMTS COULD BE LOCALLY HEAVY IN SC/EC MN AS WELL AS WC WI ON WED/EARLY THU. ONCE THE MUCH COOLER AIR BEGINS TO FILTER ACROSS THE UPPER MIDWEST...EXPECT RAINFALL AMTS TO LESSEN...WITH THE CHC OF -SN IN WC MN EARLY THU MORNING BEFORE THE PRECIPITATION ABRUPTLY ENDS BY MIDDAY. COOL -RA WILL OCCUR IN THE EASTERN FA WHICH DEEPER MOISTURE WILL HOLD ON UNTIL THE LATE AFTN. THE EXTENDED PERIOD REMAINS THE SAME WITH THE LARGE LONG WAVE TROUGH DEVELOPING ACROSS THE U.S...MAINLY EAST OF THE ROCKIES. THERE REMAINS SOME SUBTLE WAVES LATE IN THE WEEKEND...EARLY NEXT WEEK ALONG THE TRANSITION ZONE OF MORE PACIFIC AIR MOVING ACROSS THE ROCKIES. THIS MAY GENERATE A FEW RAIN OR SNOW SHOWERS SUNDAY...AND POSSIBLE MONDAY. HOWEVER...BY MONDAY THE ATMOSPHERE SHOULD BE WARM ENOUGH TO BE ALL IN THE FORM OF RAIN. ..JLT.. && .AVIATION.../06Z TAF ISSUANCE/ THINKING HAS NOT CHANGED MUCH FROM 00Z SET OF TAFS AND ACCOMPANYING DISCUSSION. ONLY REAL CHANGE WAS FOR A SOMEWHAT SLOWER INVASION OF LOWER CEILINGS AND VISIBILITIES... WHICH WAS MENTIONED AS A POSSIBILITY. THINGS SEEM TO BE IN LINE WITH SREF GUIDANCE AND LATEST NARRE-TL AS WELL. DIDN/T CHANGE PREVIOUS FORECAST MUCH OTHER THAN TO PUSH BACK TIMING SOME... AND OTHERWISE KEPT THINGS FAIRLY PESSIMISTIC THROUGH THE DAY AS VERY MOIST PROFILE MOVES ACROSS THE AREA OVERNIGHT THROUGH MOST OF THE DAY ON TUESDAY. IMPROVEMENT SHOULD OCCUR ON THE BACKSIDE OF UPPER WAVE AND SURFACE IMPULSE LATE TOMORROW AFTERNOON AND TOMORROW EVENING... SO DID ALLOW FOR RETURN OF VFR CONDITIONS DURING THAT TIME FRAME. KMSP...THERE IS DEFINITELY SOME UNCERTAINTY STILL ON THE TIMING OF ARRIVAL AND DEPARTURE OF IFR AND LIFR CONDITIONS... AS WELL AS EXACTLY HOW LOW CEILINGS AND VISIBILITIES WILL GET LATE TONIGHT AND TUESDAY MORNING. STAYED CLOSE TO PREVIOUS FORECAST... WHICH IS IN LINE WITH SOME OF THE UPSTREAM OBSERVATIONS AS WELL AS THE TIME-HEIGHT FORECASTS FROM THE RAP AND NAM. HOWEVER... TIMING COULD STILL VARY SEVERAL HOURS FROM INDICATED... PARTICULARLY WITH THE IMPROVEMENT OF CONDITIONS ON TUESDAY. /OUTLOOK FOR KMSP/ WEDNESDAY...IFR CEILINGS AND VISIBILITIES POSSIBLE... MVFR LIKELY. WINDS NORTHEAST 5-10 KTS. THURSDAY...IFR CEILINGS AND VISIBILITIES EXPECTED IN THE MORNING. WINDS NORTHWEST 10-15 KTS. FRIDAY...VFR CONDITIONS EXPECTED. WINDS NORTHWEST AROUND 10 KTS. && .MPX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... MN...NONE. WI...NONE. && $$ JLT/TRH
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS KANSAS CITY/PLEASANT HILL MO
638 PM CDT Wed Oct 24 2012 ...UPDATED AVIATION DISCUSSION... .DISCUSSION... Today through Saturday... In the short term, the primary focus will be precipitation chances with a dynamic cold front approaching from the northwest. Although most model solutions continue to indicate light, warm sector precipitation across northwest Missouri this afternoon and evening, and low level moisture is evident in the scattered to broken MVFR deck, the weak forcing resulting from slight isentropic lift has not been enough to produce rain showers ahead of the surface cold front. Short range hi-res models have caught onto the lack of precipitation this afternoon, and keep rainfall out of Missouri prior to 06z. Have hedged a bit earlier than the latest HRRR forecasts in bringing a chance of precipitation into far northwestern portions of the CWA for the potential that storms could develop on the boundary and move into the far northwest before 06z; however, the better chances for showers and thunderstorms will be Thursday as the main trough axis dips into southeast Nebraska and begins driving the surface front more quickly to the southeast. Both the NAM and GFS produce convective precipitation along the low level boundary tonight as frontogenesis increases and midlevel cooling supports temporarily higher lapse rates, mainly above 925mb. The best chance for any robust storms to develop will likely be confined to the period between 06z-09z when storms can be rooted more closely to the surface; afterward, the low-level inversion will be compounded by surface frontal passage, and the focus for precipitation will shift a bit closer to the 850mb front. Most precipitation during the daylight hours on Thursday should occur mainly along the 850 front, with a small chance for some isolated development along the surface front in far eastern portions of the forecast area early Thursday afternoon. Rain chances will linger a bit across the southeast as midlevel forcing broadens early Friday evening, with any remaining showers expected to move out shortly between 00z-06z Friday. Temperatures will drop significantly behind the cold front, and in general, highs will be reached just prior to frontal passage on Thursday. Highs for Friday and Saturday will be well below average as cold surface high pressure settles into the region, and lows Friday night could drop a few degrees below freezing across areas that have not previously received a hard freeze. Laflin Medium Range (Saturday Night through Wednesday)... As the Canadian surface ridge remains settled over the area this weekend...temperatures will dip to around 30 degrees Sunday morning. The northern zones have experienced a hard freeze so will have to make some decisions tomorrow about headlines for the southern three quarters of the area for Sunday and possibly Monday mornings. The 500-1000mb thicknesses are around 537-540DM by Sunday morning with very light winds and clear skies. Lows on Monday morning may be a few degrees warmer as the surface ridge slides further east. Not much in the way of advection at this time though and the dry conditions with light winds...may require a downward tweak of the lows for Monday morning. By Tuesday...we will see the winds finally swing around to the south as the ridge moves further east so there will be an increase in the thicknesses and 850 mb temps...therefore we should see above freezing temperatures on Tuesday and Wednesday mornings. Daytime highs through the extended will show a gradual warming trend as well from the 40s on Sunday to the around 60 degrees F by Tuesday and Wednesday. Storm track remains well to the north so no precipitation is expected through the period. Adolphson && .AVIATION... For the 00Z TAFS...short term concerns for the next 12 hours are gusty southerly winds ahead of a cold front currently over southeast Nebraska. Expect these winds to remain somewhat gusty overnight similar to what we saw last night. In the meantime 2000 foot winds will increase to 50-55 kts out of the southwest through 06Z. This could certainly cause some minor LLWS concerns for small aircraft, but given the gusty surface winds, this will be more of a low-level turbulence concern vs. rapid changes in wind speed/direction so opted to keep LLWS out of the TAF. Front will slide through the area early Thursday morning, and may be accompanied by some showers and thunderstorms near and behind the front. This activity will likely fire up over southern Nebraska late this evening and decrease in coverage as it approaches the KC area early Thursday, so will continue with only VCTS wording for now. Sharp low-level inversion and thick low-level moisture behind the front are likely to allow IFR cigs to continue spreading southeast into the KC area following frontal passage. Wouldn`t be surprised if IFR/MVFR stick around several hours on Thursday, possibly longer than models are suggesting. Hawblitzel && .EAX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... MO...NONE. KS...NONE. && $$ WFO EAX
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION...UPDATED AVIATION
NWS ST LOUIS MO
1251 PM CDT TUE OCT 23 2012 .SHORT TERM... ISSUED AT 214 AM CDT TUE OCT 23 2012 (TODAY AND TONIGHT) FOCUS WILL ONCE AGAIN BE TSRA CHANCES TODAY...TURNING TO TEMPS ONCE PRECIP HAS ENDED. ONGOING TSRA JUST W OF THE CWA IS ANTICIPATED TO CONTINUE TO MOVE ENE THRU THE CWA TODAY. THE 23/04Z HRRR AND 23/00Z 4KM NCEP WRF ARE IN GOOD AGREEMENT AND HANDLE THE ONGOING SITUATION RATHER WELL. PLAN IS TO CLOSELY FOLLOW THESE MDLS FOR POPS TODAY...PROVIDED THIS TREND CONTINUES. THESE MDLS...AS WELL AS THE OPERATIONAL MDLS...ARE IN GOOD AGREEMENT WITH PRECIP ENDING BY EARLY AFTERNOON AT THE LATEST AS THE S/W WILL BE NEARING THE IL/IN BOARDER BY 21Z. WITH PRECIP COMING TO AN END AND CLOUDS CLEARING THRU THE AFTERNOON...AMPLE INSOLATION SHUD BE AVAILABLE FOR A QUICK WARM UP TODAY. MADE ONLY MINOR CHANGES TO THE GOING FORECAST FOR TEMPS TODAY AND TONIGHT. RAISED TEMPS A COUPLE OF DEGREES ACROSS CNTL MO AS 850MB TEMPS SHUD BE NEARING 18C ACCORDING TO THE NAM. WHILE THIS IS A WARM OUTLIER AMONG THE 00Z GUIDANCE...THIS SOLN SEEMS PROBABLE GIVEN THE WARM 850MB TEMPS ADVECTING NEWD BEHIND THIS S/W. THAT SAID...MDL SOUNDINGS FOR TODAY SUGGEST MUCH OF THE REGION WILL NOT MIX TO 850MB AND HAVE THEREFORE TRENDED TWD THE WARMER GUIDANCE...BUT REMAINED JUST UNDER ACROSS CNTL MO. SIMILAR TRENDS CONTINUE TONIGHT WITH SLY TO SWLY WINDS WILL REMAIN AOA 7 KTS. TILLY && .LONG TERM... ISSUED AT 349 AM CDT TUE OCT 23 2012 (WEDNESDAY THROUGH THURSDAY) ONCE THE S/W RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ONGOING TSRA MOVES E OF THE AREA...THE SHORT TERM IS EXPECTED TO REMAIN DRY UNTIL THURS. MDLS ARE IN RELATIVELY GOOD AGREEMENT UNTIL WED NIGHT. THE GFS SUGGESTS A REINFORCING S/W ROUNDING THE BASE OF THE UPPER LOW WHICH HELPS TO SPEED UP FROPA THURS NIGHT. HAVE TRENDED TWD THE CONSENSUS OF THE OTHER MDLS...BUT KEPT CHANCE POPS TO ACCOUNT FOR THE FASTER GFS SOLN. UNTIL THURS...FOCUS REMAINS TEMPS. NOT MUCH HAS CHANGED WITH THE 23/00Z GUIDANCE AND SAW NO REASON TO MAKE MANY CHANGES TO THE GOING FORECAST. OVERALL...CONTINUED TREND GOING AOA WARMEST GUIDANCE. (FRIDAY THROUGH MONDAY) MDL TRENDS DO NOT CHANGE MUCH EARLY IN THE EXTD PERIOD. THE 22/18Z DGEX DEVELOPS AN AMPLIFIED TROF WITH THE SYSTEM AFFECTING THE CWA AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PERIOD AND CONTINUES TO DEEPEN THIS TROF THRU THE WEEKEND. THIS SOLN IS AN OUTLIER AMONG THE OPERATIONAL MDLS...EVEN AMONG THE GEFS...AND HAVE TRENDED TWD THE OTHER OPERATIONAL MDLS THRU THE PERIOD. THE GEM BEGINS TO SPEED UP TO COME INTO BETTER AGREEMENT WITH THE GFS LATE FRI INTO SAT. HAVE THEREFORE TRENDED TWD THESE SOLNS REGARDING POPS LOWERING POPS FRI NIGHT ACROSS NWRN PORTIONS OF THE CWA AND KEPT SAT DRY. REMAINDER OF THE EXTD IS DRY FOR NOW...BUT MDLS SUGGEST A COUPLE OF S/WS THAT MAY BRING PRECIP ACROSS NRN PORTIONS OF THE CWA LATE IN THE EXTD PERIOD. AS FOR TEMPS...MDLS ARE IN RELATIVELY GOOD AGREEMENT EARLY IN THE PERIOD...LARGE DIFFERENCES BEGIN BY SUN AND PROVIDE A VARIETY OF SOLNS THRU THE PERIOD. HAVE TRENDED TWD A COMPROMISE OF THE GFS/ECMWF/GEM FOR FRI. WITH UNCERTAINTY GROWING THRU THE EXTD...HAVE TRENDED TWD A BLEND OF THE GFS/ECMWF BEYOND FRI AS THESE SOLNS REMAIN SOMEWHAT CLOSE. TILLY && .AVIATION... ISSUED AT 1245 PM CDT TUE OCT 23 2012 MAIN AREA OF SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS WEAKENING AND MOVING AWAY FROM TAF SITES. SO MAIN ISSUE WILL BE THE CLOUDS THROUGH THE FORECAST PERIOD. VFR/HIGH END MVFR CIGS TO SCATTER OUT THIS AFTERNOON...WITH WINDS PICKING UP A BIT FROM THE SOUTH WITH GUSTS TO NEAR 20 KTS AT TIMES. WINDS TO DIMINISH TOWARDS SUNSET...THEN PICK BACK UP AGAIN BY MID MORNING ON WEDNESDAY AS WINDS MIX DOWN TO SURFACE AND DIURNAL CU POP UP. SPECIFICS FOR KSTL...MAIN AREA OF SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS WEAKENING AND MOVING AWAY FROM METRO AREA. SO MAIN ISSUE WILL BE THE CLOUDS THROUGH THE FORECAST PERIOD. VFR CIGS TO SCATTER OUT THIS AFTERNOON...WITH WINDS PICKING UP A BIT FROM THE SOUTH WITH GUSTS TO NEAR 20 KTS AT TIMES. WINDS TO DIMINISH TOWARDS SUNSET...THEN PICK BACK UP AGAIN BY MID MORNING ON WEDNESDAY AS WINDS MIX DOWN TO SURFACE AND DIURNAL CU POP UP. BYRD && .CLIMATE... ISSUED AT 319 PM CDT SUN OCT 21 2012 RECORD HIGHS DATE ST. LOUIS COLUMBIA QUINCY ---------------------------------------------- OCTOBER 23 86(1939) 91(1939) 86(1939) OCTOBER 24 85(1940) 86(1940) 84(1940) RECORD HIGH MINIMUMS DATE ST. LOUIS COLUMBIA QUINCY ---------------------------------------------- OCTOBER 23 67(2010) 65(1963) 63(1991) OCTOBER 24 66(1991) 65(1991) 65(1991) OCTOBER 25 69(1939) 68(1939) 63(1963) MILLER && .LSX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... MO...NONE. IL...NONE. && $$ WFO LSX
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION...UPDATED AVIATION
NWS ST LOUIS MO
647 AM CDT TUE OCT 23 2012 .SHORT TERM... ISSUED AT 214 AM CDT TUE OCT 23 2012 (TODAY AND TONIGHT) FOCUS WILL ONCE AGAIN BE TSRA CHANCES TODAY...TURNING TO TEMPS ONCE PRECIP HAS ENDED. ONGOING TSRA JUST W OF THE CWA IS ANTICIPATED TO CONTINUE TO MOVE ENE THRU THE CWA TODAY. THE 23/04Z HRRR AND 23/00Z 4KM NCEP WRF ARE IN GOOD AGREEMENT AND HANDLE THE ONGOING SITUATION RATHER WELL. PLAN IS TO CLOSELY FOLLOW THESE MDLS FOR POPS TODAY...PROVIDED THIS TREND CONTINUES. THESE MDLS...AS WELL AS THE OPERATIONAL MDLS...ARE IN GOOD AGREEMENT WITH PRECIP ENDING BY EARLY AFTERNOON AT THE LATEST AS THE S/W WILL BE NEARING THE IL/IN BOARDER BY 21Z. WITH PRECIP COMING TO AN END AND CLOUDS CLEARING THRU THE AFTERNOON...AMPLE INSOLATION SHUD BE AVAILABLE FOR A QUICK WARM UP TODAY. MADE ONLY MINOR CHANGES TO THE GOING FORECAST FOR TEMPS TODAY AND TONIGHT. RAISED TEMPS A COUPLE OF DEGREES ACROSS CNTL MO AS 850MB TEMPS SHUD BE NEARING 18C ACCORDING TO THE NAM. WHILE THIS IS A WARM OUTLIER AMONG THE 00Z GUIDANCE...THIS SOLN SEEMS PROBABLE GIVEN THE WARM 850MB TEMPS ADVECTING NEWD BEHIND THIS S/W. THAT SAID...MDL SOUNDINGS FOR TODAY SUGGEST MUCH OF THE REGION WILL NOT MIX TO 850MB AND HAVE THEREFORE TRENDED TWD THE WARMER GUIDANCE...BUT REMAINED JUST UNDER ACROSS CNTL MO. SIMILAR TRENDS CONTINUE TONIGHT WITH SLY TO SWLY WINDS WILL REMAIN AOA 7 KTS. TILLY && .LONG TERM... ISSUED AT 349 AM CDT TUE OCT 23 2012 (WEDNESDAY THROUGH THURSDAY) ONCE THE S/W RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ONGOING TSRA MOVES E OF THE AREA...THE SHORT TERM IS EXPECTED TO REMAIN DRY UNTIL THURS. MDLS ARE IN RELATIVELY GOOD AGREEMENT UNTIL WED NIGHT. THE GFS SUGGESTS A REINFORCING S/W ROUNDING THE BASE OF THE UPPER LOW WHICH HELPS TO SPEED UP FROPA THURS NIGHT. HAVE TRENDED TWD THE CONSENSUS OF THE OTHER MDLS...BUT KEPT CHANCE POPS TO ACCOUNT FOR THE FASTER GFS SOLN. UNTIL THURS...FOCUS REMAINS TEMPS. NOT MUCH HAS CHANGED WITH THE 23/00Z GUIDANCE AND SAW NO REASON TO MAKE MANY CHANGES TO THE GOING FORECAST. OVERALL...CONTINUED TREND GOING AOA WARMEST GUIDANCE. (FRIDAY THROUGH MONDAY) MDL TRENDS DO NOT CHANGE MUCH EARLY IN THE EXTD PERIOD. THE 22/18Z DGEX DEVELOPS AN AMPLIFIED TROF WITH THE SYSTEM AFFECTING THE CWA AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PERIOD AND CONTINUES TO DEEPEN THIS TROF THRU THE WEEKEND. THIS SOLN IS AN OUTLIER AMONG THE OPERATIONAL MDLS...EVEN AMONG THE GEFS...AND HAVE TRENDED TWD THE OTHER OPERATIONAL MDLS THRU THE PERIOD. THE GEM BEGINS TO SPEED UP TO COME INTO BETTER AGREEMENT WITH THE GFS LATE FRI INTO SAT. HAVE THEREFORE TRENDED TWD THESE SOLNS REGARDING POPS LOWERING POPS FRI NIGHT ACROSS NWRN PORTIONS OF THE CWA AND KEPT SAT DRY. REMAINDER OF THE EXTD IS DRY FOR NOW...BUT MDLS SUGGEST A COUPLE OF S/WS THAT MAY BRING PRECIP ACROSS NRN PORTIONS OF THE CWA LATE IN THE EXTD PERIOD. AS FOR TEMPS...MDLS ARE IN RELATIVELY GOOD AGREEMENT EARLY IN THE PERIOD...LARGE DIFFERENCES BEGIN BY SUN AND PROVIDE A VARIETY OF SOLNS THRU THE PERIOD. HAVE TRENDED TWD A COMPROMISE OF THE GFS/ECMWF/GEM FOR FRI. WITH UNCERTAINTY GROWING THRU THE EXTD...HAVE TRENDED TWD A BLEND OF THE GFS/ECMWF BEYOND FRI AS THESE SOLNS REMAIN SOMEWHAT CLOSE. TILLY && .AVIATION... ISSUED AT 628 AM CDT TUE OCT 23 2012 A LARGE AREA OF RAIN WITH SOME EMBEDDED THUNDERSTORMS OVER CENTRAL AND EASTERN MO WILL CONTINUE TO PROGRESS EASTWARD AND IMPACT THE TAFS SITES DURING THE MORNING HOURS. OBSERVATIONS DURING THE OVERNIGHT HOURS WITHIN THE RAIN AREA SUGGESTS MUCH OF THE RAIN WILL OCCUR WITH VFR CONDITIONS OCCASIONALLY LOWERING TO MVFR WITH SOME OF THE EMBEDDED THUNDER. ENDING OF THE PRECIPITATION IS A LITTLE UNCERTAIN. THERE CONTINUE TO BE NEW CELLS DEVELOPING IN WEST CENTRAL MO ON THE BACK EDGE. AT THIS TIME I HAVE ENDED PRECITATION AT KUIN AND THE ST LOUIS AREA TAF SITES AT 16Z BUT IT COULD BE A LITTLE LATER. AFTER THE PRECIPATION ENDS...VFR CONDITIONS SHOULD PREVIAL WITH DECREASING CLOUDS. SPECIFICS FOR KSTL... LIGHT RAIN SHOULD BEGIN WITH THE NEXT HOUR AND CONTINUE THROUGH LATE MORNING. UPSTREAM OBSERVATIONS OVERNIGHT SUGGESTS MUCH OF THE RAIN WILL OCCUR WITH VFR CONDITIONS OCCASIONALLY LOWERING TO MVFR WITH SOME OF THE EMBEDDED THUNDER. ENDING OF THE PRECIPITATION IS A LITTLE UNCERTAIN. AT THIS TIME I HAVE ENDED PRECITATION AT 16Z BUT IT COULD BE A LITTLE LATER. AFTER THE PRECIPATION ENDS...VFR CONDITIONS SHOULD PREVIAL WITH DECREASING CLOUDS. GLASS && .CLIMATE... ISSUED AT 319 PM CDT SUN OCT 21 2012 RECORD HIGHS DATE ST. LOUIS COLUMBIA QUINCY ---------------------------------------------- OCTOBER 23 86(1939) 91(1939) 86(1939) OCTOBER 24 85(1940) 86(1940) 84(1940) RECORD HIGH MINIMUMS DATE ST. LOUIS COLUMBIA QUINCY ---------------------------------------------- OCTOBER 23 67(2010) 65(1963) 63(1991) OCTOBER 24 66(1991) 65(1991) 65(1991) OCTOBER 25 69(1939) 68(1939) 63(1963) MILLER && .PRELIMINARY POINT TEMPS/POPS... ST LOUIS 83 63 86 66 / 80 5 0 10 QUINCY 83 62 83 64 / 60 10 5 10 COLUMBIA 86 64 86 65 / 60 10 0 10 JEFFERSON CITY 86 64 86 65 / 70 10 0 10 SALEM 80 62 83 62 / 80 5 0 5 FARMINGTON 82 59 83 59 / 80 5 0 5 && .LSX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... MO...NONE. IL...NONE. && $$ WFO LSX
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS ST LOUIS MO
349 AM CDT TUE OCT 23 2012 .SHORT TERM... ISSUED AT 214 AM CDT TUE OCT 23 2012 (TODAY AND TONIGHT) FOCUS WILL ONCE AGAIN BE TSRA CHANCES TODAY...TURNING TO TEMPS ONCE PRECIP HAS ENDED. ONGOING TSRA JUST W OF THE CWA IS ANTICIPATED TO CONTINUE TO MOVE ENE THRU THE CWA TODAY. THE 23/04Z HRRR AND 23/00Z 4KM NCEP WRF ARE IN GOOD AGREEMENT AND HANDLE THE ONGOING SITUATION RATHER WELL. PLAN IS TO CLOSELY FOLLOW THESE MDLS FOR POPS TODAY...PROVIDED THIS TREND CONTINUES. THESE MDLS...AS WELL AS THE OPERATIONAL MDLS...ARE IN GOOD AGREEMENT WITH PRECIP ENDING BY EARLY AFTERNOON AT THE LATEST AS THE S/W WILL BE NEARING THE IL/IN BOARDER BY 21Z. WITH PRECIP COMING TO AN END AND CLOUDS CLEARING THRU THE AFTERNOON...AMPLE INSOLATION SHUD BE AVAILABLE FOR A QUICK WARM UP TODAY. MADE ONLY MINOR CHANGES TO THE GOING FORECAST FOR TEMPS TODAY AND TONIGHT. RAISED TEMPS A COUPLE OF DEGREES ACROSS CNTL MO AS 850MB TEMPS SHUD BE NEARING 18C ACCORDING TO THE NAM. WHILE THIS IS A WARM OUTLIER AMONG THE 00Z GUIDANCE...THIS SOLN SEEMS PROBABLE GIVEN THE WARM 850MB TEMPS ADVECTING NEWD BEHIND THIS S/W. THAT SAID...MDL SOUNDINGS FOR TODAY SUGGEST MUCH OF THE REGION WILL NOT MIX TO 850MB AND HAVE THEREFORE TRENDED TWD THE WARMER GUIDANCE...BUT REMAINED JUST UNDER ACROSS CNTL MO. SIMILAR TRENDS CONTINUE TONIGHT WITH SLY TO SWLY WINDS WILL REMAIN AOA 7 KTS. TILLY && .LONG TERM... ISSUED AT 349 AM CDT TUE OCT 23 2012 (WEDNESDAY THROUGH THURSDAY) ONCE THE S/W RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ONGOING TSRA MOVES E OF THE AREA...THE SHORT TERM IS EXPECTED TO REMAIN DRY UNTIL THURS. MDLS ARE IN RELATIVELY GOOD AGREEMENT UNTIL WED NIGHT. THE GFS SUGGESTS A REINFORCING S/W ROUNDING THE BASE OF THE UPPER LOW WHICH HELPS TO SPEED UP FROPA THURS NIGHT. HAVE TRENDED TWD THE CONSENSUS OF THE OTHER MDLS...BUT KEPT CHANCE POPS TO ACCOUNT FOR THE FASTER GFS SOLN. UNTIL THURS...FOCUS REMAINS TEMPS. NOT MUCH HAS CHANGED WITH THE 23/00Z GUIDANCE AND SAW NO REASON TO MAKE MANY CHANGES TO THE GOING FORECAST. OVERALL...CONTINUED TREND GOING AOA WARMEST GUIDANCE. (FRIDAY THROUGH MONDAY) MDL TRENDS DO NOT CHANGE MUCH EARLY IN THE EXTD PERIOD. THE 22/18Z DGEX DEVELOPS AN AMPLIFIED TROF WITH THE SYSTEM AFFECTING THE CWA AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PERIOD AND CONTINUES TO DEEPEN THIS TROF THRU THE WEEKEND. THIS SOLN IS AN OUTLIER AMONG THE OPERATIONAL MDLS...EVEN AMONG THE GEFS...AND HAVE TRENDED TWD THE OTHER OPERATIONAL MDLS THRU THE PERIOD. THE GEM BEGINS TO SPEED UP TO COME INTO BETTER AGREEMENT WITH THE GFS LATE FRI INTO SAT. HAVE THEREFORE TRENDED TWD THESE SOLNS REGARDING POPS LOWERING POPS FRI NIGHT ACROSS NWRN PORTIONS OF THE CWA AND KEPT SAT DRY. REMAINDER OF THE EXTD IS DRY FOR NOW...BUT MDLS SUGGEST A COUPLE OF S/WS THAT MAY BRING PRECIP ACROSS NRN PORTIONS OF THE CWA LATE IN THE EXTD PERIOD. AS FOR TEMPS...MDLS ARE IN RELATIVELY GOOD AGREEMENT EARLY IN THE PERIOD...LARGE DIFFERENCES BEGIN BY SUN AND PROVIDE A VARIETY OF SOLNS THRU THE PERIOD. HAVE TRENDED TWD A COMPROMISE OF THE GFS/ECMWF/GEM FOR FRI. WITH UNCERTAINTY GROWING THRU THE EXTD...HAVE TRENDED TWD A BLEND OF THE GFS/ECMWF BEYOND FRI AS THESE SOLNS REMAIN SOMEWHAT CLOSE. TILLY && .AVIATION... ISSUED AT 1057 PM CDT MON OCT 22 2012 AN INITIAL BATCH OF SCATTERED SHOWERS WAS MOVING NEWD THROUGH COU LATE THIS EVNG. A BETTER COVERAGE OF SHOWERS AND STORMS IS EXPECTED LATE TGT AND TUE MRNG AHEAD OF A SHORTWAVE TROUGH NOW OVER ERN PORTIONS OF KS AND OK WHICH WILL MOVE E-NEWD THROUGH MO LATE TGT AND TUE MRNG. AN AREA OF SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS MOVING NEWD THROUGH SWRN MO SHOULD MOVE THROUGH OUR AREA LATE TGT AND EARLY TUE MRNG. WILL INCLUDE VCTS IN THE TAFS AND A TEMPO GROUP OF SHOWERS DURING THIS TIME PERIOD. THERE WILL BE PLENTY OF LOW-MID LEVEL CLOUDS LATE TGT AND TUE MRNG BUT THIS SHOULD BE VFR OUTSIDE OF SHOWERS/STORMS. SLY SFC WINDS WILL CONTINUE THIS FORECAST PERIOD AS THE WARM FRONT HAS MOVED N OF THE TAF SITES. THERE MAY BE SOME LLWS LATE TGT AND EARLY TUE MRNG BUT IT DOES NOT APPEAR STRONG ENOUGH TO INCLUDE IN THE TAFS WITH THE SWLY LOW LEVEL JET TRANSLATING NEWD THROUGH OR NEAR COU AND UIN LATE TGT AND EARLY TUE MRNG. THE CLOUDS SHOULD SCATTER OUT TUE AFTN INTO TUE EVNG WITH THE WARM FRONT WELL N OF OUR AREA AND THE SHORTWAVE E OF THE REGION. SPECIFICS FOR KSTL...THE SHOWERS AND STORMS ACROSS SWRN MO SHOULD MOVE NEWD UP THE I-44 CORRIDOR AND INTO STL LATE TGT BY 08-09Z TUE. WILL INCLUDE VCTS ALONG WITH A TEMPO GROUP OF SHOWERS AFTER THIS TIME. THE SHOWERS AND STORMS SHOULD MOVE NE OF STL BY LATE TUE MRNG. VFR LOW-MID LEVEL CLOUD CEILING SHOULD PREVAIL LATE TGT AND TUE MRNG...THEN THE CLOUDS SHOULD SCATTER OUT TUE AFTN OR EARLY TUE EVNG. SLY SFC WIND WILL CONTINUE LATE TGT AND INCREASE TO AROUND 13-14 KTS TUE AFTN...THEN WEAKEN TUE EVNG. GKS && .CLIMATE... ISSUED AT 319 PM CDT SUN OCT 21 2012 RECORD HIGHS DATE ST. LOUIS COLUMBIA QUINCY ---------------------------------------------- OCTOBER 23 86(1939) 91(1939) 86(1939) OCTOBER 24 85(1940) 86(1940) 84(1940) RECORD HIGH MINIMUMS DATE ST. LOUIS COLUMBIA QUINCY ---------------------------------------------- OCTOBER 23 67(2010) 65(1963) 63(1991) OCTOBER 24 66(1991) 65(1991) 65(1991) OCTOBER 25 69(1939) 68(1939) 63(1963) MILLER && .PRELIMINARY POINT TEMPS/POPS... ST LOUIS 83 63 86 66 / 80 5 0 10 QUINCY 83 62 83 64 / 60 10 5 10 COLUMBIA 86 64 86 65 / 60 10 0 10 JEFFERSON CITY 86 64 86 65 / 70 10 0 10 SALEM 80 62 83 62 / 80 5 0 5 FARMINGTON 82 59 83 59 / 80 5 0 5 && .LSX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... MO...NONE. IL...NONE. && $$ WFO LSX
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS ST LOUIS MO
215 AM CDT TUE OCT 23 2012 .SHORT TERM... ISSUED AT 214 AM CDT TUE OCT 23 2012 (TODAY AND TONIGHT) FOCUS WILL ONCE AGAIN BE TSRA CHANCES TODAY...TURNING TO TEMPS ONCE PRECIP HAS ENDED. ONGOING TSRA JUST W OF THE CWA IS ANTICIPATED TO CONTINUE TO MOVE ENE THRU THE CWA TODAY. THE 23/04Z HRRR AND 23/00Z 4KM NCEP WRF ARE IN GOOD AGREEMENT AND HANDLE THE ONGOING SITUATION RATHER WELL. PLAN IS TO CLOSELY FOLLOW THESE MDLS FOR POPS TODAY...PROVIDED THIS TREND CONTINUES. THESE MDLS...AS WELL AS THE OPERATIONAL MDLS...ARE IN GOOD AGREEMENT WITH PRECIP ENDING BY EARLY AFTERNOON AT THE LATEST AS THE S/W WILL BE NEARING THE IL/IN BOARDER BY 21Z. WITH PRECIP COMING TO AN END AND CLOUDS CLEARING THRU THE AFTERNOON...AMPLE INSOLATION SHUD BE AVAILABLE FOR A QUICK WARM UP TODAY. MADE ONLY MINOR CHANGES TO THE GOING FORECAST FOR TEMPS TODAY AND TONIGHT. RAISED TEMPS A COUPLE OF DEGREES ACROSS CNTL MO AS 850MB TEMPS SHUD BE NEARING 18C ACCORDING TO THE NAM. WHILE THIS IS A WARM OUTLIER AMONG THE 00Z GUIDANCE...THIS SOLN SEEMS PROBABLE GIVEN THE WARM 850MB TEMPS ADVECTING NEWD BEHIND THIS S/W. THAT SAID...MDL SOUNDINGS FOR TODAY SUGGEST MUCH OF THE REGION WILL NOT MIX TO 850MB AND HAVE THEREFORE TRENDED TWD THE WARMER GUIDANCE...BUT REMAINED JUST UNDER ACROSS CNTL MO. SIMILAR TRENDS CONTINUE TONIGHT WITH SLY TO SWLY WINDS WILL REMAIN AOA 7 KTS. TILLY && .LONG TERM... ISSUED AT 324 PM CDT MON OCT 22 2012 (TUESDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY) CURRENT WV IMAGERY DEPICTS SHORTWAVE TROUGH OVER WESTERN OKLAHOMA. THIS TROUGH AND ASSOCIATED VORTICITY MAXIMA WILL TRANSLATE ACROSS THE MIDDLE OF THE CWFA EARLY TOMORROW AND WEAKEN WITH TIME. VERTICAL FORCING FOR ASCENT WILL INCREASE IMMEDIATELY AHEAD OF THIS FEATURE DUE TO DCPVA. IN ADDITION... LL FORCING VIA WAA/MOISTURE TRANSPORT VIA A 35-KT LLJ WILL ALSO HELP SUPPORT LL CONVERGENCE/ASCENT FOR SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS EARLY TOMORROW... ESPECIALLY FROM MISSISSIPPI RIVER EAST. WENT HIGH CHANCE POPS FOR 12-18 UTC TOMORROW IN THIS GENERAL AREA BUT DID NOT GO HIGHER DUE TO EXPECTED WEAKER FORCING AT LOW LEVELS COMPARED TO TODAY AND UNCERTAINTY ON FAVORED REGION FOR DEVELOPMENT. PRECIPITATION CHANCES SHOULD DIMINISH BY EARLY AFTERNOON... THOUGH CONFIDENCE IN THIS IS NOT AS HIGH AS IT OTHERWISE WOULD BE AFTER OBSERVING PRECIPITATION STILL ONGOING AS OF 2000 UTC TODAY WITH CONTINUED WARM/MOIST ADVECTION. TEMPERATURES TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY WILL LIKELY BE VERY WARM...SOME 20 DEGREES ABOVE NORMAL. SOME CONCERN WITH TUESDAYS HIGHS BEING TOO WARM IF CLOUDS/PRECIP LINGER LONGER THAN EXPECTED LIKE THEY DID TODAY. IN ADDITION...SOME WEAK CAA/NEUTRAL ADVECTION BEHIND SHORTWAVE TROUGH MAY KEEP TEMPS A FEW DEGREES COOLER ON TUEDAY. FOR WEDNESDAY...DEEPER MIXING AND LOW/MIDLEVEL TEMPS AT LEAST AS WARM AS TUESDAY SHOULD SUPPORT HIGHS IN MID 80S AREAWIDE...WHICH IS AOA WARMER MAV GUIDANCE AND NEAR OR ABOVE RECORD VALUES FOR THE DATE. FOR MORE INFORMATION...PLEASE SEE CLIMO SECTION BELOW. (THURSDAY THROUGH MONDAY) A FAILRY POTENT COLD FRONT ATTENDANT FROM A SFC LOW TRAVELLING ACROSS WI AND INTO CANADA WILL INCREASE CHANCES OF SHOWERS AND STORMS FROM NW TO SE ACROSS THE AREA ON THURSDAY. WENT WITH A GFS/ECMWF BLEND REGARDING FRONTAL PLACEMENT AND ASSOCIATED WEATHER ELEMENTS. FRONT LOOKS TO BE NEAR KCOU-KUIN LINE BY 1800 UTC THURSDAY AND APRPOACHING KUNO-KSTL LINE BY 0000 UTC FRIDAY. WITH MOST OF AREA AHEAD OF FRONT FOR AT LEAST A GOOD PART OF THE DAY...WENT AOA MEX GUIDANCE FOR HIGH TEMPERATURES. SHOWERS AND STORMS LOOK TO BE ALONG/JUST AHEAD OF THE FRONT WITH POST-FRONTAL...MORE STRATIFORM PRECIPITATION BEHIND FRONT IN PRESENCE OF FRONTOGENETICAL FORCING. STILL LOOKS LIKE THERE IS AT LEAST SOME POTENTIAL FOR SOME SEVERE STORMS WITH THE FRONT AS 30-50 KNOTS OF DEEP LAYER SHEAR AND STEEP MIDLEVEL LAPSE RATES WILL EXIST. HOWEVER...FAIRLY WEAK SFC CONVERGENCE ALONG FRONT AND ONLY MARGINAL INSTABILITY (500-1000 J/KG SBCAPE) LOOK TO PRECLUDE A HIGHER THREAT AT THIS TIME. BEHIND THE FRONT...MUCH COOLER TEMPERATUERS WILL BE IN THE OFFING WITH HIGHS ONLY IN L/M 50S THROUGH THE WEEKEND. STILL QUITE A BIT OF UNCERTAINTY FOR SUNDAY-MONDAY AS GFS/ECMWF HAVE FLIP-FLOPPED A FEW TIMES REGARDING HOW DEEP THE TROUGH WILL BE CARVING OUT IN THE EASTERN THIRD OF THE COUNTRY AND ITS POTENTIAL INTERACTION WITH WHAT IS NOW NAMED TROPICAL DEPRESSION 18 OUT IN CARIBBEAN SEA. TEMPERATURES MAY REBOUND A BIT FASTER THAN CURRENTLY FORECAST IF FLOW IS MORE ZONAL ACROSS OUR REGION ALLOWING COLDER AIR TO STAY FURTHER TO THE NORTH. GOSSELIN && .AVIATION... ISSUED AT 1057 PM CDT MON OCT 22 2012 AN INITIAL BATCH OF SCATTERED SHOWERS WAS MOVING NEWD THROUGH COU LATE THIS EVNG. A BETTER COVERAGE OF SHOWERS AND STORMS IS EXPECTED LATE TGT AND TUE MRNG AHEAD OF A SHORTWAVE TROUGH NOW OVER ERN PORTIONS OF KS AND OK WHICH WILL MOVE E-NEWD THROUGH MO LATE TGT AND TUE MRNG. AN AREA OF SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS MOVING NEWD THROUGH SWRN MO SHOULD MOVE THROUGH OUR AREA LATE TGT AND EARLY TUE MRNG. WILL INCLUDE VCTS IN THE TAFS AND A TEMPO GROUP OF SHOWERS DURING THIS TIME PERIOD. THERE WILL BE PLENTY OF LOW-MID LEVEL CLOUDS LATE TGT AND TUE MRNG BUT THIS SHOULD BE VFR OUTSIDE OF SHOWERS/STORMS. SLY SFC WINDS WILL CONTINUE THIS FORECAST PERIOD AS THE WARM FRONT HAS MOVED N OF THE TAF SITES. THERE MAY BE SOME LLWS LATE TGT AND EARLY TUE MRNG BUT IT DOES NOT APPEAR STRONG ENOUGH TO INCLUDE IN THE TAFS WITH THE SWLY LOW LEVEL JET TRANSLATING NEWD THROUGH OR NEAR COU AND UIN LATE TGT AND EARLY TUE MRNG. THE CLOUDS SHOULD SCATTER OUT TUE AFTN INTO TUE EVNG WITH THE WARM FRONT WELL N OF OUR AREA AND THE SHORTWAVE E OF THE REGION. SPECIFICS FOR KSTL...THE SHOWERS AND STORMS ACROSS SWRN MO SHOULD MOVE NEWD UP THE I-44 CORRIDOR AND INTO STL LATE TGT BY 08-09Z TUE. WILL INCLUDE VCTS ALONG WITH A TEMPO GROUP OF SHOWERS AFTER THIS TIME. THE SHOWERS AND STORMS SHOULD MOVE NE OF STL BY LATE TUE MRNG. VFR LOW-MID LEVEL CLOUD CEILING SHOULD PREVAIL LATE TGT AND TUE MRNG...THEN THE CLOUDS SHOULD SCATTER OUT TUE AFTN OR EARLY TUE EVNG. SLY SFC WIND WILL CONTINUE LATE TGT AND INCREASE TO AROUND 13-14 KTS TUE AFTN...THEN WEAKEN TUE EVNG. GKS && .CLIMATE... ISSUED AT 319 PM CDT SUN OCT 21 2012 RECORD HIGHS DATE ST. LOUIS COLUMBIA QUINCY ---------------------------------------------- OCTOBER 23 86(1939) 91(1939) 86(1939) OCTOBER 24 85(1940) 86(1940) 84(1940) RECORD HIGH MINIMUMS DATE ST. LOUIS COLUMBIA QUINCY ---------------------------------------------- OCTOBER 23 67(2010) 65(1963) 63(1991) OCTOBER 24 66(1991) 65(1991) 65(1991) OCTOBER 25 69(1939) 68(1939) 63(1963) MILLER && .PRELIMINARY POINT TEMPS/POPS... ST LOUIS 83 63 86 66 / 60 5 0 10 QUINCY 83 62 83 64 / 20 10 5 10 COLUMBIA 86 64 86 65 / 20 10 0 10 JEFFERSON CITY 86 64 86 65 / 20 10 0 10 SALEM 80 62 83 62 / 60 5 0 5 FARMINGTON 82 59 83 59 / 60 5 0 5 && .LSX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... MO...NONE. IL...NONE. && $$ WFO LSX
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS NORTH PLATTE NE
128 PM CDT TUE OCT 23 2012 .AVIATION...SKIES HAVE CLEARED AT BOTH THE KLBF AND KVTN TAF SITES...AND SKIES SHOULD SLOWLY CLEAR EAST OF A LINE FROM KANW TO KBBW THROUGH THE AFTERNOON. UNTIL SKIES CLEAR...WIDESPREAD IFR CEILINGS WILL PREVAIL. A COLD FRONT WILL DROP INTO THE AREA TONIGHT. A NARROW BAND OF MVFR/IFR CEILINGS MAY DEVELOP AFTER 09Z BEHIND THE FRONT ACROSS CENTRAL AND SOUTHWEST NEBRASKA. && .PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 410 AM CDT TUE OCT 23 2012/ DISCUSSION... PRIMARY FOCUS THROUGH THIS FORECAST PERIOD IS FOG AND TEMPERATURES TODAY...THEN RAIN/SNOW CHANCES FOCUSED ON WEDNESDAY NIGHT AND THURSDAY. BEYOND THAT...COLDER TEMPERATURES FOR THE LATTER HALF OF THE WEEK. WATER VAPOR IMAGERY THIS MORNING SHOWS A LONGWAVE TROUGH OVER THE EASTERN PACIFIC INTO THE WESTERN CONUS...WITH RIDGING ACROSS THE GREAT LAKES. A WEAK SHORTWAVE TROUGH WAS OBSERVED ACROSS THE NORTHERN PLAINS...WITH SUBSIDENCE ALOFT ACROSS NEBRASKA HELPING TO KEEP THE MID-LEVELS DRY THIS MORNING. SEVERAL OTHER SHORTWAVES OF NOTE WITHIN THE LONGWAVE TROUGH WERE ONE OVER NEVADA...WITH ANOTHER STILL OVER THE OCEAN. AT THE SURFACE...SOUTH TO SOUTHEAST FLOW WAS BRINGING IN LOW LEVEL MOISTURE AND WITH THE DRY AIR ALOFT...FOG HAS DEVELOPED ACROSS ALMOST ALL OF NEBRASKA BY 08Z. THIS HAS KEPT TEMPERATURES UP...WITH READINGS IN THE MID 40S TO LOW 50S. THE OTHER FEATURE TO NOTE IS LOW PRESSURE ON THE LEE SIDE OF THE ROCKIES. SHORT TERM...TODAY THROUGH THURSDAY NIGHT ACCORDING TO THE RUC AND THE NAM...FOG SHOULD SLOWLY DISSIPATE FROM THE WEST...BUT PLACES OVER THE EASTERN PART OF THE FORECAST AREA...EAST OF HIGHWAY 83 COULD SEE THE FOG LINGER INTO THE EARLY AFTERNOON HOURS. THE FOG WILL HAVE A BIG IMPACT ON HIGH TEMPERATURES TODAY SO IF IT FAILS TO DISSIPATE BY 18Z OR 19Z...TEMPERATURES COULD BE UP TO 10 DEGREES TO WARM IN PLACES. DAY SHIFT WILL NEED TO MONITOR TRENDS IN CASE TEMPERATURE FORECAST NEEDS TO BE MODIFIED. 850MB TEMPERATURES WILL INCREASE TODAY /BETWEEN 15C AND 23C/ DUE TO WARM AIR ADVECTION AHEAD OF THE AREA OF LOW PRESSURE TO THE WEST. ASSUMING SKIES CLEAR...TEMPERATURES SHOULD WARM CONSIDERABLY...WITH LOW 80S POSSIBLE ACROSS SOUTHWEST NEBRASKA. THE SHORTWAVE TROUGH OVER NEVADA WILL LIFT INTO MONTANA TODAY...WHICH WILL GIVE THE FRONT TO THE WEST A BIT OF A PUSH EASTWARD. THE NAM PUSHES A DRYLINE ACROSS THE SANDHILLS THIS AFTERNOON...WHICH COULD DROP DEWPOINTS INTO THE LOW 30S. GOING SOUTH...DEWPOINTS WILL DROP INTO THE 30S AS WELL AS THE DRYLINE PROGRESSES EAST. THIS WILL PROMOTE DEEP MIXING TO NEAR 700MB. WINDS THROUGH THE MIXED LAYER WILL BE STRONGEST ACROSS NORTHWEST NEBRASKA...WHERE GUSTS TO 30 MPH LOOK POSSIBLE THIS AFTERNOON. GOING SOUTH...WINDS ALOFT DECREASE SO WINDY CONDITIONS ARE NOT EXPECTED. WITH THE TEMPERATURES EXPECTED TODAY...LOWEST RELATIVE HUMIDITY WILL BE ACROSS SOUTHWEST NEBRASKA...WITH VALUES DROPPING TO THE MID 20S WHERE WINDS WILL BE STRONG. AS IS FORECAST...CRITICAL FIRE WEATHER CONDITIONS WILL NOT BE MET...ALTHOUGH MARGINAL CONDITIONS WILL BE LIKELY IN A FEW LOCATIONS FOR AT LEAST A FEW HOURS TODAY. AGAIN...CLOUD COVER COULD HAMPER THIS FROM OCCURRING...SO WILL NEED TO MONITOR TRENDS FOR POTENTIAL FIRE WEATHER ISSUES TODAY. THE MONTANA WAVE LIFTS INTO CANADA TONIGHT...WITH A COLD FRONT TO THE WEST PROGRESSING SOUTHEAST ACROSS NEBRASKA TONIGHT. BY MID MORNING WEDNESDAY SHOULD BE THROUGH MOST OF THE FORECAST AREA. COULD AGAIN SEE SOME FOG WEDNESDAY MORNING...BUT THIS SHOULD BE CONFINED TO AREAS RIGHT ALONG AND BEHIND THE FRONT WHERE LOW LEVEL MOISTURE POOLS. A THE SHORTWAVE TROUGH WILL ALSO MOVE ONLAND TONIGHT...WHICH WILL THEN PROGRESS ACROSS UTAH AND INTO COLORADO ON WEDNESDAY. AS THIS IS ONGOING...A 700MB TROUGH WILL PASS ACROSS THE NORTHERN AND CENTRAL PLAINS WEDNESDAY AND WEDNESDAY NIGHT. MODELS ARE SHOWING GOOD FRONTOGENETICAL FORCING...WHILE THE LOCATION OF THE UPPER LEVEL JET STREAK PUTS NORTHWEST NEBRASKA IN AN AREA OF GOOD LARGE-SCALE LIFT. THE SIGNAL HAS BEEN QUITE CONSISTENT IN TIMING AND LOCATION OF THE BEST FORCING FROM THE DIFFERENT MODELS OVER THE PAST FEW DAYS SO CONFIDENCE HAS INCREASED IN GETTING PRECIPITATION ACROSS THE FORECAST AREA. IT MAY TAKE A BIT OF TIME TO SATURATE THE LOW LEVELS...SO ONLY BEGAN CHANCES FOR RAIN IN THE FAR NORTHERN PARTS OF SHERIDAN AND CHERRY COUNTIES WEDNESDAY MORNING AND SLOWLY EXPANDING SOUTH THROUGH THE AFTERNOON. WEDNESDAY EVENING LOOKS TO SEE THE BEST CHANCES FOR PRECIPITATION IN AREAS NORTHWEST OF AN IMPERIAL TO VALENTINE LINE...AND THOUGH DO HAVE RAIN CHANCES TO THE EAST...LOWERED CHANCES BEFORE MIDNIGHT AS TOO MUCH DRY AIR LOOKS TO EXIST IN THESE AREAS. THE PRECIPITATION AREA DOES SHIFT TO THE SOUTH AND EAST AFTER MIDNIGHT...BUT AS THE PRIMARY SHORTWAVE TROUGH EXITS THE AREA BY 12Z THURSDAY MORNING...LARGE-SCALE FORCING WILL DETERIORATE SO CHANCES HAVE LOWERED FOR THURSDAY. BY LATE AFTERNOON THURSDAY...EXPECT THE FORECAST AREA TO SEE PRIMARILY DRY CONDITIONS. THERE IS ANOTHER SHORTWAVE THAT WILL ROUND THE LONGWAVE TROUGH LATER THURSDAY AND THURSDAY NIGHT...BUT THE TREND CONTINUES TO GO SOUTH SO PRECIPITATION CHANCES LOOK TO STAY TO THE SOUTH. TEMPERATURE PROFILES CONTINUE TO SHOW THE PRECIPITATION TYPE BEGIN AS RAIN...BUT CHANGE OVER TO A RAIN/SNOW MIX WITH SNOW BECOMING THE DOMINANT TYPE ACROSS THE NORTHWEST AREAS AFTER MIDNIGHT WEDNESDAY NIGHT. HAVE RAIN OR SNOW IN THE FORECAST ACROSS THE ENTIRE AREA FOR THURSDAY MORNING AS THE PROFILES HUG 0C IN THE LOWEST LEVELS ABOVE THE SURFACE. DON/T EXPECT MUCH ACCUMULATION OF SNOW...WITH PRECIPITATION ACCUMULATIONS UP TO A THIRD OF AN INCH MAINLY NORTH OF INTERSTATE 80. LONG TERM...FRIDAY THROUGH MONDAY COLD TEMPERATURES WILL BE THE HIGHLIGHT FOR THE WEEKEND AS HIGHS WILL BE HARD PRESSED TO MAKE IT OUT OF THE 30S AND 40S FOR FRIDAY AND SATURDAY. LOWS ALSO WILL BE QUITE COLD...ALTHOUGH THE 23.00Z MODEL SOLUTIONS ARE A BIT WARMER FOR BOTH FRIDAY AND SATURDAY NIGHTS WITH THE SURFACE HIGH NOW LOOKING TO STAY OFF TO THE EAST OF THE FORECAST AREA. LOWS SHOULD STILL EASILY DROP INTO THE 20S...WITH TEENS POSSIBLE FRIDAY NIGHT. THE TREND NOW LOOKS FOR WARMER CONDITIONS GOING INTO NEXT WEEK AS RIDGING BUILDS OVER THE WESTERN HALF OF THE COUNTRY. THIS WILL BRING MILD TEMPERATURES BACK INTO THE CENTRAL PLAINS WITH 850MB TEMPERATURES WARMING INTO THE TEENS AGAIN BY MONDAY...COMPARED TO READINGS BELOW 0C WHICH WILL BE EXPERIENCED FRIDAY AND SATURDAY. THE FORECAST IS DRY THROUGH THIS PERIOD AS THE LONGWAVE TROUGH WILL PUSH THE MOISTURE ACROSS THE PLAINS WELL TO THE SOUTHEAST. AVIATION... LIFR/IFR CIGS AND VSBY IMPROVE TO VFR FROM WEST TO EAST BETWEEN 15Z AND 18Z ALONG AND WEST OF HIGHWAY 83. EAST OF HIGHWAY 83...LIFR/IFR CIGS AND VIS IMPROVE TO IFR/MVFR CIGS AROUND 18Z AND THEN VFR BY 21Z. A COLD FRONT WILL DROP INTO THE FCST AREA TONIGHT WITH MVFR/IFR CIGS POSSIBLE AFTER 06Z TUESDAY NIGHT. FIRE WEATHER... POTENTIAL RED FLAG CONDITIONS WILL BE MONITORED ACROSS WRN NEB THIS AFTERNOON DEPENDING ON THE PROGRESS OF A CLEARING LINE FCST TO DEVELOP ACROSS THE PANHANDLE THIS MORNING. && .LBF WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...NONE. && $$ SHORT TERM/EXTENDED...WFO LBF AVIATION...TAYLOR
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS HASTINGS NE
1236 PM CDT TUE OCT 23 2012 .AVIATION...18 KGRI TAF. PREVAILING LIFR CONDITIONS FORECAST THROUGH 20Z...WITH VFR CONDITIONS EVENTUALLY RESTORED BY 22Z...FOLLOWED BY ANOTHER ROUND OF LIFR CONDITIONS WEDNESDAY MORNING. STRATUS PERSISTS ACROSS MUCH OF THE REGION AT THIS HOUR...HOWEVER SATELLITE IMAGERY INDICATES CLEARING TO THE SOUTHEAST AND THE NORTHWEST OF THE TERMINAL. UNFORTUNATELY KGRI WILL BE ONE OF THE LAST LOCATIONS TO EXPERIENCE CLEARING TODAY...BUT EVEN THEN CLOUDS ARE EXPECTED TO SCATTER OUT BY 22Z. VFR CONDITIONS SHOULD PERSIST THROUGH MUCH OF TONIGHT...WITH THE REDEVELOPMENT OF STRATUS PROMOTING LIFR CONDITIONS AT THE TERMINAL BY 11Z WEDNESDAY. VISIBILITY RESTRICTIONS IN FOG AND/OR DRIZZLE WILL REMAIN POSSIBLE AT THE TERMINAL THROUGH 20Z TODAY...AND AGAIN 11Z AND BEYOND ON WEDNESDAY. THE SURFACE WIND WILL REMAIN GENERALLY LIGHT AND VARIABLE THROUGH THE TAF PERIOD. && .PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 1111 AM CDT TUE OCT 23 2012/ UPDATE...MORNING UPPER AIR ANALYSIS INDICATES LONG WAVE TROUGHING OVER THE WESTERN HALF OF THE CONUS AND RIDGING OVER THE EAST. MID AND UPPER LEVEL JET ENERGY EXTENDS FROM CALIFORNIA...NORTHEAST ACROSS THE ROCKY MOUNTAIN RANGE INTO THE NORTHERN PLAINS...THEN INTO SOUTH CENTRAL CANADA AND THEN EAST/SOUTHEAST INTO SOUTHEASTERN CANADA AND THE NORTHEASTERN CONUS. TROPOSPHERIC FLOW OVER THE CENTRAL PLAINS IS NOT PARTICULARLY STRONG AS A RESULT...WITH THE WIND PEAKING OUT AT AROUND 70KTS NEAR 200MB. WATER VAPOR IMAGERY INDICATES INCREASED VALUES OF MID LEVEL MOISTURE EXTENDING ALONG THE JET AXIS FROM THE WESTERN CONUS INTO SOUTH CENTRAL CANADA...HOWEVER MUCH OF THIS MID LEVEL MOISTURE REMAINS NORTHWEST OF OUR AREA. AT THE SURFACE A STATIONARY FRONT IS NOTED EXTENDING FROM SOUTHWESTERN IOWA...SOUTHWEST TO NEAR KCNK...KGBD AND KDDC. THE LOW LEVEL WIND FIELD ACROSS OUR CWA REMAINS FAIRLY LIGHT THIS MORNING...HOWEVER THE PREDOMINANT WIND DIRECTION REMAINS FROM THE EAST/NORTHEAST DUE TO THE LOW LEVEL BAROCLINIC ZONE TO OUR SOUTHEAST. ISENTROPIC UPGLIDE AND SATURATION ACROSS THE LOW LEVEL BAROCLINIC ZONE...PRIMARILY ALONG THE 290-295K SURFACES...CONTINUES TO PROMOTE WIDESPREAD STRATUS ACROSS THE REGION THIS MORNING...WITH CEILINGS HOLDING GENERALLY IN THE 100-300FT AGL RANGE ACROSS OUR AREA. IN ADDITION TO THIS STRATUS...LOW LEVEL MOISTURE FLUX INTO THE AREA IS ALSO WORKING TO PROMOTE CONTINUED FOG ACROSS MUCH OF THE AREA...WITH ENOUGH LOW LEVEL TURBULENT MIXING FOR DRIZZLE AS WELL...PRIMARILY ACROSS OUR EASTERN CWA. AS OF 1530Z THE LOWEST VISIBILITIES EXIST ALONG A LINE FROM KAUH...TO KGRI...TO KEAR...TO KHDE AND KPHG...WHICH IS WHERE VISIBILITY RESTRICTIONS OF 1/4SM TO 1/2SM ARE IN EXISTENCE. TO THE NORTHWEST AND SOUTHEAST OF THIS LINE...VISIBILITY RESTRICTIONS OF AROUND 1SM ARE BEING OBSERVED. IMPROVEMENTS IN VISIBILITY HAVE BEEN NOTED ACROSS MUCH OF THE CWA THROUGH PAST FEW HOURS WITH MOST LOCATIONS ACROSS OUR CWA NOW ABOVE 1/4SM. AS A RESULT...THE DENSE FOG ADVISORY WAS LET GO AT 15Z. THAT BEING SAID...FOG...WITH VISIBILITY RESTRICTIONS GENERALLY BETWEEN 1/2SM AND 1SM...STILL PERSISTS ACROSS THE AREA AND WILL LIKELY BE OBSERVED THROUGH AT LEAST MIDDAY. BIGGEST QUESTION FOR THE REST OF TODAY IS WHETHER OR NOT ENOUGH DIABATIC HEATING WILL BE REALIZED FOR COMPLETE FOG DISSIPATION. THE CURRENT HOPE IS THAT THE LOW LEVEL BAROCLINIC ZONE...CURRENTLY TO OUR SOUTHEAST...WILL MAKE ENOUGH PROGRESS NORTH/NORTHWEST ACROSS OUR AREA...THUS PUSHING THE BEST ISENTROPIC UPGLIDE TO OUR NORTH AND CARRYING THE CLOUD COVER WITH IT. WITH CLOUD COVER DIMINISHING OVER MUCH OF OUR AREA AND INCREASING DIABATIC HEATING...ENOUGH OF A LOW LEVEL DEWPOINT DEPRESSION SHOULD PRESENT ITSELF FOR COMPLETE FOG DISSIPATION AND SUNNIER SKIES THIS AFTERNOON. IF HOWEVER THE LOW LEVEL BAROCLINIC ZONE DOES NOT MAKE AS MUCH PROGRESS NORTH/NORTHWEST AS CURRENTLY EXPECTED...THEN THIS AFTERNOON COULD TURN OUT BEING MUCH CLOUDIER THAN FORECAST...WITH FOG POTENTIALLY PERSISTING THROUGH MUCH OF THE DAY. WITH CURRENT SHORT TERM GUIDANCE SUGGESTING SUNNIER SKIES ACROSS MOST ALL OF THE CWA THIS AFTERNOON...WILL STAY THE COURSE AND CONTINUE PRESENT PARTLY CLOUDY SKIES WITH HIGHS IN THE 60S AND 70S FOR THIS AFTERNOON. PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 516 AM CDT TUE OCT 23 2012/ SHORT TERM...THROUGH THURSDAY NIGHT. ANOTHER NIGHT...AND ANOTHER SET OF SEVERAL TRICKY FORECAST ELEMENTS DURING THE NEXT 72 HOURS...NAMELY HIGH TEMPS AND PRECIP/FOG TRENDS...AND WHETHER ANY STORMS WED NIGHT MIGHT GO SEVERE. 09Z OBJECTIVE SURFACE ANALYSIS CONFIRMS THAT THE ENTIRE CWA LIES NORTH OF A QUASI-STATIONARY BOUNDARY SNAKING EAST-NORTHEAST ACROSS SOUTHERN/EASTERN KANSAS AND EXTENDING FROM A WEAK 1003MB LOW IN SOUTHEAST CO. BREEZES ACROSS THE CWA RANGE FROM LIGHT/VARIABLE TO LIGHT EASTERLY...WITH LITTLE IF ANY TEMP/DEWPOINT DEPRESSION WITH VALUES RANGING GENERALLY 47-53 ALL AREAS. AS EXPECTED 24 HOURS AGO...VARYING DEGREES OF FOG HAVE SETTLED IN OVERNIGHT...WITH THE ENTIRE CWA SEEING NO BETTER THAN 2-3 MILE VISIBILITY...AND THE MOST CONCENTRATED ZONE OF DENSE FOG 1/4 MILE OR LOWER VSBY FOCUSED FROM I-80 SOUTHWARD INTO KANSAS PER AUTOMATED OBS AND WEBCAMS. LIGHT DRIZZLE HAS SEEMINGLY BEEN OFF AND ON OVERNIGHT...BUT IS LIKELY STILL PRESENT IN MUCH OF THE CWA. ALOFT...WATER VAPOR SATELLITE IMAGERY AND LATEST MODEL DATA CONFIRM BROAD WEST- SOUTHWEST FLOW OVER THE CENTRAL PLAINS...WHICH IS POSITIONED DOWNSTREAM FROM A LARGE SCALE TROUGH ANCHORED ACROSS THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST WITH A CLOSED 500MB LOW OFF THE WASHINGTON STATE COAST. CLOSER TO HOME...A SMALL SCALE SHORTWAVE TROUGH IS CURRENTLY DEPARTING EASTWARD ACROSS MO...PROMOTING CONSIDERABLE ELEVATED THUNDERSTORM ACTIVITY IN THAT AREA. STARTING OFF EARLY THIS MORNING...THE MOST IMMEDIATE ISSUE IS THE ONGOING CWA-WIDE DENSE FOG ADVISORY VALID THROUGH 15Z...AND WILL LET IT RIDE AS-IS FOR NOW. TECHNICALLY SPEAKING...AUTOMATED OBS SUGGEST THAT SO FAR THE MAJORITY OF ANY LOCALLY DENSE FOG HAS BEEN CONFINED TO AREAS SOUTH OF THE I-80 CORRIDOR...BUT VARIOUS SHORT TERM VISIBILITY GUIDANCE FROM THE HRRR/SREF SUGGEST THAT A NORTHWARD EXPANSION OF DENSE FOG IS QUITE POSSIBLE YET THIS MORNING...AND AM NOT ABOUT TO CANCEL ANY OF THIS ADVISORY UNTIL TRENDS CAN BE MONITORED FOR AT LEAST A FEW MORE HOURS. IN FACT...AM STARTING TO EVEN WONDER IF THE 15Z EXPIRATION TIME WILL BE LONG ENOUGH...WITH BOTH THE HRRR AND HOURLY GFS LAMP GUIDANCE SUGGESTING THAT SOME AREAS COULD REMAIN RATHER SOCKED IN UNTIL AT LEAST 16Z-17Z. DAY SHIFT WILL HAVE TO KEEP AN EYE ON THE POSSIBLE NEED FOR AN EXTENSION. AS FOR THE OFF AND ON LIGHT DRIZZLE SUCH AS OBSERVED HERE AT THE WFO TONIGHT...HAVE IT MENTIONED CWA-WIDE THROUGH 12Z...BUT HAVE THEN ATTEMPTED TO CONFINE IT TO ONLY A HANDFUL OF COUNTIES EAST OF HWY 281 POST-SUNRISE...WHERE NAM SOUNDINGS INDICATED THAT THE SATURATED LAYER WOULD REMAIN DEEPER...GENERALLY NEAR/IN EXCESS OF 2500 FT. THAT BEING SAID...CANNOT COMPLETELY RULE OUT POST-SUNRISE LIGHT DRIZZLE EVEN IN THE TRI-CITIES AREA WESTWARD GIVEN SUCH A MOIST LOW LEVEL PROFILE. AS FOR SKY COVER...CONFIDENCE IS CONSIDERABLY HIGHER TODAY THAT MUCH OF THE CWA WILL SEE AT LEAST A FEW HOURS OF PARTLY TO MOSTLY SUNNY SKIES AT SOME POINT...BUT EXACTLY WHEN IS STILL IN QUESTION. HAVE GENERALLY FOLLOWED THE 00Z/06Z NAM SOLUTION OF KEEPING NEARLY ALL AREAS SOCKED IN WITH STRATUS AND AT LEAST LIGHT FOG THROUGH THE MORNING HOURS...BUT THEN ERODING FROM WEST-EAST THROUGH THE AFTERNOON WEARS ON AS EVIDENCED BY THE 900MB RELATIVE HUMIDITY FIELD. THIS MEANS THAT FAR EASTERN COUNTIES ALONG THE HWY 81 WOULD BE LAST TO SEE ANY CLEARING. AFTER BUSTING HIGH TEMPS BY 10+ DEGREES YESTERDAY DUE TO WIDESPREAD LOW STRATUS...AM IN NO HURRY TO GO WITH THE WARM END OF AVAILABLE GUIDANCE/MODEL SOLUTIONS TODAY ESPECIALLY IN EASTERN ZONES. AFTER TRYING VARIOUS SOLUTIONS ON FOR SIZE...ENDED UP GOING WITH THE 00Z NAM ALMOST EXACTLY...AS ITS TEMP FIELD SEEMED TO BEST-CAPTURE THE GRADUAL WEST-EAST CLEARING. THIS RESULTS IN A DECENT RANGE FROM NEAR 80 FAR WEST ...LOW-MID 70S CENTRAL AND UPPER 60S EAST. PLEASE NOTE THESE VALUES ARE AT LEAST A FEW DEGREES COOLER THAN PREVIOUS FORECAST ALL AREAS...AND AS MUCH AS 5-8 DEGREES COOLER IN THE EAST. LIKE YESTERDAY...COULD EASILY FORESEE HIGHS BEING OFF BY 5+ DEGREES DEPENDING ON STRATUS/FOG TRENDS. TONIGHT...KEPT OUT ALL MENTION OF PRECIP CWA-WIDE...AND AM NOT EXPECTING A DENSE FOG REPEAT SUCH AS THE ONGOING ONE...BUT DID INSERT A PATCHY FOG MENTION INTO SEVERAL COUNTIES NORTH OF I-80 AFTER MIDNIGHT IN CLOSEST PROXIMITY TO THE HIGHEST BOUNDARY LAYER RELATIVE HUMIDITY POOLING IN THE VICINITY OF THE LEADING EDGES OF THE INVADING COLD FRONT. CLOUD TRENDS TONIGHT ARE CERTAINLY A CHALLENGE...WITH THE POTENTIAL FOR QUITE AN INCREASE IN STRATUS TOWARD SUNRISE NEAR THIS BOUNDARY...FOLLOWING WHAT SHOULD BE A FAIRLY CLEAR EVENING FOR MOST AREAS. ALOFT...THE BIG PICTURE INVOLVES A LEAD SHORTWAVE TRACKING ACROSS FAR SOUTH CENTRAL CANADA...WHICH HELPS DRIVE THE SURFACE FRONT INTO THE NORTHERN CWA...WHILE A TROUGH AXIS SETS UP FROM SOUTHWEST-NORTHEAST ACROSS KS. KEPT LOWS SIMILAR TO PREVIOUS FORECAST AND A GUIDANCE BLEND...RANGING FROM LOW-MID 40S NORTHWEST TO UPPER 50S/NEAR 60 SOUTHEAST WHERE DEWPOINTS WILL BE ON THE INCREASE. WEDNESDAY...OTHER THAN THE LINGERING PATCHY FOG MENTION NORTH IN THE MORNING...HAVE KEPT OUT ANY OTHER WEATHER MENTION THROUGH SUNSET...AS THE GENERAL MODEL CONSENSUS IS TO KEEP ANY LIGHT DAYTIME DRIZZLY PRECIP NORTHEAST OF THE CWA...AND ANY LATE-DAY CONVECTION ALONG/NEAR THE INVADING COLD FRONT JUST SOUTHEAST OF THE CWA. THAT BEING SAID...SKY COVER AND TEMP TRENDS ARE AGAIN QUITE A CHALLENGE...AS QUITE A BIT OF STRATUS SHOULD DOMINATE MUCH OF THE NORTHWEST CWA WITH MORE SUNSHINE SOUTHEAST. FORTUNATELY...THE LATEST MODEL RUNS ARE IN REASONABLY GOOD AGREEMENT REGARDING WHAT WILL CERTAINLY BE A SHARP TEMP GRADIENT...AND ONLY MADE MINOR ADJUSTMENTS TO PREVIOUS FORECAST...AIMING FOR A RANGE FROM UPPER 50S FAR NORTH...MID 60S TO LOW 70S TRI CITIES AREA...AND LOW 80S FAR SOUTHEAST IN THE HEBRON-BELOIT CORRIDOR. AGAIN THOUGH...5+ DEGREE DEVIATIONS FROM CURRENT FORECAST ARE VERY POSSIBLE IF NOT LIKELY. PONDERED GOING WITH A NON-DIURNAL TEMP TREND BEHIND THE FRONT...BUT MODELS ARE NOT REALLY SHOWING MUCH OF AN AFTERNOON DROP SO STUCK WITH TRADITIONAL MID-LATE AFTERNOON HIGHS ALL AREAS FOR NOW. THIS COLD FRONT WILL NOT EXACTLY BLAST THROUGH THE AREA...AND BY SUNSET WILL JUST BE REACHING FAR SOUTHEAST ZONES...WHILE MOST OF THE CWA WILL ALREADY BE IN SUSTAINED NORTH WINDS 15-20 MPH. WEDNESDAY NIGHT IS CLEARLY STILL THE MAIN 12-HOUR WINDOW FOR POTENTIALLY DECENT RAIN AMOUNTS...AND ACTUALLY RAISED POPS INTO THE 60-70 PERCENT RANGE ACROSS MUCH OF THE EASTERN CWA...WHILE LEAVING SOUTHWEST AREAS IN THE 40-50 PERCENT RANGE. IN SHORT...LARGE SCALE FORCING/MID LEVEL FRONTOGENESIS RAMPS UP AS A POTENT OPEN WAVE OVER THE CENTRAL ROCKIES MOVES INTO THE CENTRAL PLAINS...FEATURING A 110+KT 300MB JET STREAK. LEFT THE POP/WEATHER GRIDS AS ONE 12-HOUR BLOCK FOR NOW...BUT GENERAL THINKING IS THAT MOST WIDESPREAD COVERAGE OF SHOWERS/STORMS WILL HOLD OFF UNTIL NEAR/AFTER MIDNIGHT...UNLESS SOME EVENING ACTIVITY FLARES UP IN THE FAR SOUTH/SOUTHEAST NEAR THE MAIN SURFACE FRONT. LATEST NAM CONTINUES TO SHOW A HEALTHY CORRIDOR OF MUCAPE 1500+ J/KG IN THE 850-700MB LAYER MAINLY ACROSS THE SOUTHEAST 1/2 OF THE CWA...DROPPING OFF SHORTLY TO THE NORTHWEST. HOWEVER...WILL KEEP ISOLATED THUNDER EVEN IN THIS NORTHWEST AREAS. WITH VERY STRONG DEEP-LAYER SHEAR OF 60+ KNOTS MOVING IN...HAVE INCREASING CONCERNS THAT AT LEAST MARGINALLY SEVERE HAIL COULD OCCUR IN SOUTHEAST COUNTIES...AND DESPITE SPC KEEPING THE OFFICIAL DAY2 SLIGHT RISK OUTLOOK JUST EAST OF THE CWA...AT LEAST FOR NOW...WILL GO AHEAD AND ADD THIS MENTION TO THE HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK AS THESE STRONG DYNAMICS ARE HARD TO IGNORE. DEPENDING ON HOW WIDESPREAD STORMS ARE...COULD FORESEE SOME FORTUNATE AREAS RECEIVING IN EXCESS OF ONE-HALF INCH OF RAIN BUT THIS WILL PROBABLY BE THE EXCEPTION. ALTHOUGH SOME SNOW OR RAIN/SNOW MIX COULD TRY DEVELOPING IN WESTERN NEBRASKA IN THE COLDER AIR WELL BEHIND THE FRONT...LATEST CONSENSUS IS THAT WINTRY PRECIP WED NIGHT SHOULD FOCUS AT LEAST 50 MILES WEST OF THE CWA...AND THUS WILL KEEP ANY SNOW MENTION OUT FOR NOW. THURSDAY...SPLIT THE DAY INTO 6-HOUR BLOCKS...WITH ALL PRECIP GONE BY THE AFTERNOON HOURS...AND POTENTIALLY EVEN GONE BY MID-MORNING IN MOST AREAS PER SOME OF THE LATEST TRENDS INCLUDING THE 00Z ECMWF...WHICH QUICKLY SHUTS OFF THE MID LEVEL LIFT/SATURATION FROM NORTHWEST-SOUTHEAST. LATER ADJUSTMENTS WILL BE NEEDED...BUT FOR NOW KEPT 20-40 POPS ACROSS MOST OF THE CWA IN THE MORNING FOR GENERAL LIGHT RAIN...WITH NO THUNDER MENTION AND STILL NO SNOW MENTION...ALTHOUGH SUPPOSE A FEW FLURRIES COULD SNEAK INTO FAR NORTHWEST ZONES JUST BEFORE PRECIP SHUTS OFF FOR GOOD GIVEN SURFACE TEMPS FORECAST TO DROP INTO THE MID 30S EARLY THURSDAY MORNING. OTHERWISE...EXPECT INCREASING SUNSHINE AS THE DAY WEARS ON...ALTHOUGH IT WILL REMAIN QUITE BREEZY WITH SUSTAINED NORTH WINDS AROUND 20 MPH WITH GUSTS TO AROUND 30 MPH. FOR HIGH TEMPS...RAW NAM VALUES ARE WELL INTO THE MID 50S ALL AREAS...BUT WAS NOT WILLING TO GO QUITE THIS WARM YET...AND THUS ONLY MADE MINOR ADJUSTMENTS TO PREVIOUS FORECAST WITH MOST NEB ZONES TOPPING OUT UPPER 40S AND KS LOWER 50S. THURS NIGHT...THIS LOOKS TO BE THE MOST UNEVENTFUL PERIOD OF THE NEXT 72 HOURS...AS AN EXPANSIVE SURFACE RIDGE AXIS SETTLES INTO THE REGION FROM THE NORTH...AND ANY LIGHT SNOW ACCUMULATIONS ASSOCIATED WITH TRAILING MID LEVEL SHORTWAVE ENERGY AND LOW LEVEL UPSLOPE FLOW SHOULD REMAIN NO CLOSER THAN THE NEB/CO/KS BORDER AREA. DESPITE A POTENTIAL INCREASE IN MID LEVEL CLOUDS...OPTED TO LOWER LOW TEMPS 2-3 DEGREES FROM PREVIOUS FCST AND POSSIBLY NOT ENOUGH...BUT AT LEAST GETTING ALL AREAS INTO THE SUB-FREEZING 26-32 RANGE. LONG TERM...STARTING 12Z FRIDAY...THE LONGWAVE TROUGH ACROSS THE WEST COAST THIS MORNING WILL BE CENTERED OVER THE PLAINS ON FRIDAY...WITH SEVERAL EMBEDDED WEAK DISTURBANCES EXPECTED TO HAVE LITTLE IMPACT IN THE WAY OF CHANCES FOR PRECIP ACROSS THE LOCAL AREA. SOME DISCREPANCIES EVIDENT WITH THE HANDLING OF THIS TROUGH AS IT PUSHES EAST LATE IN THE WEEKEND...WITH THE EC QUICKLY BUILDING A RIDGE OVER THE INTERMOUNTAIN WEST RESULTING IN RISING HEIGHTS ACROSS THE PLAINS...IN RESPONSE TO THE LONGWAVE TROUGH INTERACTS WITH A TROPICAL DISTURBANCE OFF THE EASTERN SEABOARD...AND THE LATEST GFS DEPICTING A MORE ZONAL WEST TO NORTHWEST FLOW ACROSS THE REGION BY EARLY NEXT WEEK...AS THE AFOREMENTIONED TROPICAL DISTURBANCE INSTEAD TRACKS OUT INTO THE OPEN ATLANTIC. EITHER WAY...THIS APPEARS TO BE A DRY PATTERN FOR THE LOCAL AREA AS THERE ARE NO SIGNIFICANT FEATURES FORECAST TO IMPACT THE AREA IN THE DIVERGENT UPPER LEVEL FLOW PATTERNS DEPICTED AMONGST THE LONG TERM MODELS. THEREFORE...EXPECT DRY CONDITIONS...WITH CONTINUED UNSEASONABLY COOL TEMPERATURES...TO AT LEAST START THE EXTENDED PERIODS...WITH TEMPERATURES POSSIBLY WARMING CLOSER TO CLIMATOLOGY...WHILE REMAINING DRY...EARLY NEXT WEEK IF THE EC SOLUTION ENDS UP BEING CORRECT. HOWEVER...DUE TO THE UNCERTAINTY OF THE SYNOPTIC SCALE PATTERN EARLY NEXT WEEK...STUCK WITH ALLBLEND MODEL SOLUTION THIS MORNING...WITH NO NOTABLE TWEAKS TO SPEAK OF. && .GID WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... NE...NONE. KS...NONE. && $$ AVIATION/UPDATE...BRYANT SHORT TERM...PFANNKUCH LONG TERM/AVIATION...ROSSI
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
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1111 AM CDT TUE OCT 23 2012 .UPDATE...MORNING UPPER AIR ANALYSIS INDICATES LONG WAVE TROUGHING OVER THE WESTERN HALF OF THE CONUS AND RIDGING OVER THE EAST. MID AND UPPER LEVEL JET ENERGY EXTENDS FROM CALIFORNIA...NORTHEAST ACROSS THE ROCKY MOUNTAIN RANGE INTO THE NORTHERN PLAINS...THEN INTO SOUTH CENTRAL CANADA AND THEN EAST/SOUTHEAST INTO SOUTHEASTERN CANADA AND THE NORTHEASTERN CONUS. TROPOSPHERIC FLOW OVER THE CENTRAL PLAINS IS NOT PARTICULARLY STRONG AS A RESULT...WITH THE WIND PEAKING OUT AT AROUND 70KTS NEAR 200MB. WATER VAPOR IMAGERY INDICATES INCREASED VALUES OF MID LEVEL MOISTURE EXTENDING ALONG THE JET AXIS FROM THE WESTERN CONUS INTO SOUTH CENTRAL CANADA...HOWEVER MUCH OF THIS MID LEVEL MOISTURE REMAINS NORTHWEST OF OUR AREA. AT THE SURFACE A STATIONARY FRONT IS NOTED EXTENDING FROM SOUTHWESTERN IOWA...SOUTHWEST TO NEAR KCNK...KGBD AND KDDC. THE LOW LEVEL WIND FIELD ACROSS OUR CWA REMAINS FAIRLY LIGHT THIS MORNING...HOWEVER THE PREDOMINANT WIND DIRECTION REMAINS FROM THE EAST/NORTHEAST DUE TO THE LOW LEVEL BAROCLINIC ZONE TO OUR SOUTHEAST. ISENTROPIC UPGLIDE AND SATURATION ACROSS THE LOW LEVEL BAROCLINIC ZONE...PRIMARILY ALONG THE 290-295K SURFACES...CONTINUES TO PROMOTE WIDESPREAD STRATUS ACROSS THE REGION THIS MORNING...WITH CEILINGS HOLDING GENERALLY IN THE 100-300FT AGL RANGE ACROSS OUR AREA. IN ADDITION TO THIS STRATUS...LOW LEVEL MOISTURE FLUX INTO THE AREA IS ALSO WORKING TO PROMOTE CONTINUED FOG ACROSS MUCH OF THE AREA...WITH ENOUGH LOW LEVEL TURBULENT MIXING FOR DRIZZLE AS WELL...PRIMARILY ACROSS OUR EASTERN CWA. AS OF 1530Z THE LOWEST VISIBILITIES EXIST ALONG A LINE FROM KAUH...TO KGRI...TO KEAR...TO KHDE AND KPHG...WHICH IS WHERE VISIBILITY RESTRICTIONS OF 1/4SM TO 1/2SM ARE IN EXISTENCE. TO THE NORTHWEST AND SOUTHEAST OF THIS LINE...VISIBILITY RESTRICTIONS OF AROUND 1SM ARE BEING OBSERVED. IMPROVEMENTS IN VISIBILITY HAVE BEEN NOTED ACROSS MUCH OF THE CWA THROUGH PAST FEW HOURS WITH MOST LOCATIONS ACROSS OUR CWA NOW ABOVE 1/4SM. AS A RESULT...THE DENSE FOG ADVISORY WAS LET GO AT 15Z. THAT BEING SAID...FOG...WITH VISIBILITY RESTRICTIONS GENERALLY BETWEEN 1/2SM AND 1SM...STILL PERSISTS ACROSS THE AREA AND WILL LIKELY BE OBSERVED THROUGH AT LEAST MIDDAY. BIGGEST QUESTION FOR THE REST OF TODAY IS WHETHER OR NOT ENOUGH DIABATIC HEATING WILL BE REALIZED FOR COMPLETE FOG DISSIPATION. THE CURRENT HOPE IS THAT THE LOW LEVEL BAROCLINIC ZONE...CURRENTLY TO OUR SOUTHEAST...WILL MAKE ENOUGH PROGRESS NORTH/NORTHWEST ACROSS OUR AREA...THUS PUSHING THE BEST ISENTROPIC UPGLIDE TO OUR NORTH AND CARRYING THE CLOUD COVER WITH IT. WITH CLOUD COVER DIMINISHING OVER MUCH OF OUR AREA AND INCREASING DIABATIC HEATING...ENOUGH OF A LOW LEVEL DEWPOINT DEPRESSION SHOULD PRESENT ITSELF FOR COMPLETE FOG DISSIPATION AND SUNNIER SKIES THIS AFTERNOON. IF HOWEVER THE LOW LEVEL BAROCLINIC ZONE DOES NOT MAKE AS MUCH PROGRESS NORTH/NORTHWEST AS CURRENTLY EXPECTED...THEN THIS AFTERNOON COULD TURN OUT BEING MUCH CLOUDIER THAN FORECAST...WITH FOG POTENTIALLY PERSISTING THROUGH MUCH OF THE DAY. WITH CURRENT SHORT TERM GUIDANCE SUGGESTING SUNNIER SKIES ACROSS MOST ALL OF THE CWA THIS AFTERNOON...WILL STAY THE COURSE AND CONTINUE PRESENT PARTLY CLOUDY SKIES WITH HIGHS IN THE 60S AND 70S FOR THIS AFTERNOON. && .PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 556 AM CDT TUE OCT 23 2012/ AVIATION...12Z KGRI TAF...STRATUS CONTINUES TO COVER A GOOD PORTION OF THE CENTRAL PLAINS THIS MORNING WITH LIFR/IFR CIGS MIXED THROUGHOUT AREAS OF FG/BR/-DZ. EXPECT THE LIFR/IFR CONDITIONS WILL PERSIST THROUGH AROUND 23/16Z...WHEN CIGS AND VISIBILITIES ARE EXPECTED TO BEGIN TO IMPROVE MORE SUBSTANTIALLY AS WINDS BEGIN TO INCREASE OUT OF THE SOUTH AND SOME MIXING ALLOWS FOR CIGS/VSBYS TO BEGIN TO LIFT/IMPROVE. THIS IMPROVING TREND IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE THROUGH EARLY AFTERNOON...WITH A RETURN TO VFR CIGS/VSBYS EXPECTED BY 23/19Z...AS INDICATED BY LATEST SHORT TERM GUIDANCE. PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 516 AM CDT TUE OCT 23 2012/ SHORT TERM...THROUGH THURSDAY NIGHT. ANOTHER NIGHT...AND ANOTHER SET OF SEVERAL TRICKY FORECAST ELEMENTS DURING THE NEXT 72 HOURS...NAMELY HIGH TEMPS AND PRECIP/FOG TRENDS...AND WHETHER ANY STORMS WED NIGHT MIGHT GO SEVERE. 09Z OBJECTIVE SURFACE ANALYSIS CONFIRMS THAT THE ENTIRE CWA LIES NORTH OF A QUASI-STATIONARY BOUNDARY SNAKING EAST-NORTHEAST ACROSS SOUTHERN/EASTERN KANSAS AND EXTENDING FROM A WEAK 1003MB LOW IN SOUTHEAST CO. BREEZES ACROSS THE CWA RANGE FROM LIGHT/VARIABLE TO LIGHT EASTERLY...WITH LITTLE IF ANY TEMP/DEWPOINT DEPRESSION WITH VALUES RANGING GENERALLY 47-53 ALL AREAS. AS EXPECTED 24 HOURS AGO...VARYING DEGREES OF FOG HAVE SETTLED IN OVERNIGHT...WITH THE ENTIRE CWA SEEING NO BETTER THAN 2-3 MILE VISIBILITY...AND THE MOST CONCENTRATED ZONE OF DENSE FOG 1/4 MILE OR LOWER VSBY FOCUSED FROM I-80 SOUTHWARD INTO KANSAS PER AUTOMATED OBS AND WEBCAMS. LIGHT DRIZZLE HAS SEEMINGLY BEEN OFF AND ON OVERNIGHT...BUT IS LIKELY STILL PRESENT IN MUCH OF THE CWA. ALOFT...WATER VAPOR SATELLITE IMAGERY AND LATEST MODEL DATA CONFIRM BROAD WEST- SOUTHWEST FLOW OVER THE CENTRAL PLAINS...WHICH IS POSITIONED DOWNSTREAM FROM A LARGE SCALE TROUGH ANCHORED ACROSS THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST WITH A CLOSED 500MB LOW OFF THE WASHINGTON STATE COAST. CLOSER TO HOME...A SMALL SCALE SHORTWAVE TROUGH IS CURRENTLY DEPARTING EASTWARD ACROSS MO...PROMOTING CONSIDERABLE ELEVATED THUNDERSTORM ACTIVITY IN THAT AREA. STARTING OFF EARLY THIS MORNING...THE MOST IMMEDIATE ISSUE IS THE ONGOING CWA-WIDE DENSE FOG ADVISORY VALID THROUGH 15Z...AND WILL LET IT RIDE AS-IS FOR NOW. TECHNICALLY SPEAKING...AUTOMATED OBS SUGGEST THAT SO FAR THE MAJORITY OF ANY LOCALLY DENSE FOG HAS BEEN CONFINED TO AREAS SOUTH OF THE I-80 CORRIDOR...BUT VARIOUS SHORT TERM VISIBILITY GUIDANCE FROM THE HRRR/SREF SUGGEST THAT A NORTHWARD EXPANSION OF DENSE FOG IS QUITE POSSIBLE YET THIS MORNING...AND AM NOT ABOUT TO CANCEL ANY OF THIS ADVISORY UNTIL TRENDS CAN BE MONITORED FOR AT LEAST A FEW MORE HOURS. IN FACT...AM STARTING TO EVEN WONDER IF THE 15Z EXPIRATION TIME WILL BE LONG ENOUGH...WITH BOTH THE HRRR AND HOURLY GFS LAMP GUIDANCE SUGGESTING THAT SOME AREAS COULD REMAIN RATHER SOCKED IN UNTIL AT LEAST 16Z-17Z. DAY SHIFT WILL HAVE TO KEEP AN EYE ON THE POSSIBLE NEED FOR AN EXTENSION. AS FOR THE OFF AND ON LIGHT DRIZZLE SUCH AS OBSERVED HERE AT THE WFO TONIGHT...HAVE IT MENTIONED CWA-WIDE THROUGH 12Z...BUT HAVE THEN ATTEMPTED TO CONFINE IT TO ONLY A HANDFUL OF COUNTIES EAST OF HWY 281 POST-SUNRISE...WHERE NAM SOUNDINGS INDICATED THAT THE SATURATED LAYER WOULD REMAIN DEEPER...GENERALLY NEAR/IN EXCESS OF 2500 FT. THAT BEING SAID...CANNOT COMPLETELY RULE OUT POST-SUNRISE LIGHT DRIZZLE EVEN IN THE TRI-CITIES AREA WESTWARD GIVEN SUCH A MOIST LOW LEVEL PROFILE. AS FOR SKY COVER...CONFIDENCE IS CONSIDERABLY HIGHER TODAY THAT MUCH OF THE CWA WILL SEE AT LEAST A FEW HOURS OF PARTLY TO MOSTLY SUNNY SKIES AT SOME POINT...BUT EXACTLY WHEN IS STILL IN QUESTION. HAVE GENERALLY FOLLOWED THE 00Z/06Z NAM SOLUTION OF KEEPING NEARLY ALL AREAS SOCKED IN WITH STRATUS AND AT LEAST LIGHT FOG THROUGH THE MORNING HOURS...BUT THEN ERODING FROM WEST-EAST THROUGH THE AFTERNOON WEARS ON AS EVIDENCED BY THE 900MB RELATIVE HUMIDITY FIELD. THIS MEANS THAT FAR EASTERN COUNTIES ALONG THE HWY 81 WOULD BE LAST TO SEE ANY CLEARING. AFTER BUSTING HIGH TEMPS BY 10+ DEGREES YESTERDAY DUE TO WIDESPREAD LOW STRATUS...AM IN NO HURRY TO GO WITH THE WARM END OF AVAILABLE GUIDANCE/MODEL SOLUTIONS TODAY ESPECIALLY IN EASTERN ZONES. AFTER TRYING VARIOUS SOLUTIONS ON FOR SIZE...ENDED UP GOING WITH THE 00Z NAM ALMOST EXACTLY...AS ITS TEMP FIELD SEEMED TO BEST-CAPTURE THE GRADUAL WEST-EAST CLEARING. THIS RESULTS IN A DECENT RANGE FROM NEAR 80 FAR WEST ...LOW-MID 70S CENTRAL AND UPPER 60S EAST. PLEASE NOTE THESE VALUES ARE AT LEAST A FEW DEGREES COOLER THAN PREVIOUS FORECAST ALL AREAS...AND AS MUCH AS 5-8 DEGREES COOLER IN THE EAST. LIKE YESTERDAY...COULD EASILY FORESEE HIGHS BEING OFF BY 5+ DEGREES DEPENDING ON STRATUS/FOG TRENDS. TONIGHT...KEPT OUT ALL MENTION OF PRECIP CWA-WIDE...AND AM NOT EXPECTING A DENSE FOG REPEAT SUCH AS THE ONGOING ONE...BUT DID INSERT A PATCHY FOG MENTION INTO SEVERAL COUNTIES NORTH OF I-80 AFTER MIDNIGHT IN CLOSEST PROXIMITY TO THE HIGHEST BOUNDARY LAYER RELATIVE HUMIDITY POOLING IN THE VICINITY OF THE LEADING EDGES OF THE INVADING COLD FRONT. CLOUD TRENDS TONIGHT ARE CERTAINLY A CHALLENGE...WITH THE POTENTIAL FOR QUITE AN INCREASE IN STRATUS TOWARD SUNRISE NEAR THIS BOUNDARY...FOLLOWING WHAT SHOULD BE A FAIRLY CLEAR EVENING FOR MOST AREAS. ALOFT...THE BIG PICTURE INVOLVES A LEAD SHORTWAVE TRACKING ACROSS FAR SOUTH CENTRAL CANADA...WHICH HELPS DRIVE THE SURFACE FRONT INTO THE NORTHERN CWA...WHILE A TROUGH AXIS SETS UP FROM SOUTHWEST-NORTHEAST ACROSS KS. KEPT LOWS SIMILAR TO PREVIOUS FORECAST AND A GUIDANCE BLEND...RANGING FROM LOW-MID 40S NORTHWEST TO UPPER 50S/NEAR 60 SOUTHEAST WHERE DEWPOINTS WILL BE ON THE INCREASE. WEDNESDAY...OTHER THAN THE LINGERING PATCHY FOG MENTION NORTH IN THE MORNING...HAVE KEPT OUT ANY OTHER WEATHER MENTION THROUGH SUNSET...AS THE GENERAL MODEL CONSENSUS IS TO KEEP ANY LIGHT DAYTIME DRIZZLY PRECIP NORTHEAST OF THE CWA...AND ANY LATE-DAY CONVECTION ALONG/NEAR THE INVADING COLD FRONT JUST SOUTHEAST OF THE CWA. THAT BEING SAID...SKY COVER AND TEMP TRENDS ARE AGAIN QUITE A CHALLENGE...AS QUITE A BIT OF STRATUS SHOULD DOMINATE MUCH OF THE NORTHWEST CWA WITH MORE SUNSHINE SOUTHEAST. FORTUNATELY...THE LATEST MODEL RUNS ARE IN REASONABLY GOOD AGREEMENT REGARDING WHAT WILL CERTAINLY BE A SHARP TEMP GRADIENT...AND ONLY MADE MINOR ADJUSTMENTS TO PREVIOUS FORECAST...AIMING FOR A RANGE FROM UPPER 50S FAR NORTH...MID 60S TO LOW 70S TRI CITIES AREA...AND LOW 80S FAR SOUTHEAST IN THE HEBRON-BELOIT CORRIDOR. AGAIN THOUGH...5+ DEGREE DEVIATIONS FROM CURRENT FORECAST ARE VERY POSSIBLE IF NOT LIKELY. PONDERED GOING WITH A NON-DIURNAL TEMP TREND BEHIND THE FRONT...BUT MODELS ARE NOT REALLY SHOWING MUCH OF AN AFTERNOON DROP SO STUCK WITH TRADITIONAL MID-LATE AFTERNOON HIGHS ALL AREAS FOR NOW. THIS COLD FRONT WILL NOT EXACTLY BLAST THROUGH THE AREA...AND BY SUNSET WILL JUST BE REACHING FAR SOUTHEAST ZONES...WHILE MOST OF THE CWA WILL ALREADY BE IN SUSTAINED NORTH WINDS 15-20 MPH. WEDNESDAY NIGHT IS CLEARLY STILL THE MAIN 12-HOUR WINDOW FOR POTENTIALLY DECENT RAIN AMOUNTS...AND ACTUALLY RAISED POPS INTO THE 60-70 PERCENT RANGE ACROSS MUCH OF THE EASTERN CWA...WHILE LEAVING SOUTHWEST AREAS IN THE 40-50 PERCENT RANGE. IN SHORT...LARGE SCALE FORCING/MID LEVEL FRONTOGENESIS RAMPS UP AS A POTENT OPEN WAVE OVER THE CENTRAL ROCKIES MOVES INTO THE CENTRAL PLAINS...FEATURING A 110+KT 300MB JET STREAK. LEFT THE POP/WEATHER GRIDS AS ONE 12-HOUR BLOCK FOR NOW...BUT GENERAL THINKING IS THAT MOST WIDESPREAD COVERAGE OF SHOWERS/STORMS WILL HOLD OFF UNTIL NEAR/AFTER MIDNIGHT...UNLESS SOME EVENING ACTIVITY FLARES UP IN THE FAR SOUTH/SOUTHEAST NEAR THE MAIN SURFACE FRONT. LATEST NAM CONTINUES TO SHOW A HEALTHY CORRIDOR OF MUCAPE 1500+ J/KG IN THE 850-700MB LAYER MAINLY ACROSS THE SOUTHEAST 1/2 OF THE CWA...DROPPING OFF SHORTLY TO THE NORTHWEST. HOWEVER...WILL KEEP ISOLATED THUNDER EVEN IN THIS NORTHWEST AREAS. WITH VERY STRONG DEEP-LAYER SHEAR OF 60+ KNOTS MOVING IN...HAVE INCREASING CONCERNS THAT AT LEAST MARGINALLY SEVERE HAIL COULD OCCUR IN SOUTHEAST COUNTIES...AND DESPITE SPC KEEPING THE OFFICIAL DAY2 SLIGHT RISK OUTLOOK JUST EAST OF THE CWA...AT LEAST FOR NOW...WILL GO AHEAD AND ADD THIS MENTION TO THE HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK AS THESE STRONG DYNAMICS ARE HARD TO IGNORE. DEPENDING ON HOW WIDESPREAD STORMS ARE...COULD FORESEE SOME FORTUNATE AREAS RECEIVING IN EXCESS OF ONE-HALF INCH OF RAIN BUT THIS WILL PROBABLY BE THE EXCEPTION. ALTHOUGH SOME SNOW OR RAIN/SNOW MIX COULD TRY DEVELOPING IN WESTERN NEBRASKA IN THE COLDER AIR WELL BEHIND THE FRONT...LATEST CONSENSUS IS THAT WINTRY PRECIP WED NIGHT SHOULD FOCUS AT LEAST 50 MILES WEST OF THE CWA...AND THUS WILL KEEP ANY SNOW MENTION OUT FOR NOW. THURSDAY...SPLIT THE DAY INTO 6-HOUR BLOCKS...WITH ALL PRECIP GONE BY THE AFTERNOON HOURS...AND POTENTIALLY EVEN GONE BY MID-MORNING IN MOST AREAS PER SOME OF THE LATEST TRENDS INCLUDING THE 00Z ECMWF...WHICH QUICKLY SHUTS OFF THE MID LEVEL LIFT/SATURATION FROM NORTHWEST-SOUTHEAST. LATER ADJUSTMENTS WILL BE NEEDED...BUT FOR NOW KEPT 20-40 POPS ACROSS MOST OF THE CWA IN THE MORNING FOR GENERAL LIGHT RAIN...WITH NO THUNDER MENTION AND STILL NO SNOW MENTION...ALTHOUGH SUPPOSE A FEW FLURRIES COULD SNEAK INTO FAR NORTHWEST ZONES JUST BEFORE PRECIP SHUTS OFF FOR GOOD GIVEN SURFACE TEMPS FORECAST TO DROP INTO THE MID 30S EARLY THURSDAY MORNING. OTHERWISE...EXPECT INCREASING SUNSHINE AS THE DAY WEARS ON...ALTHOUGH IT WILL REMAIN QUITE BREEZY WITH SUSTAINED NORTH WINDS AROUND 20 MPH WITH GUSTS TO AROUND 30 MPH. FOR HIGH TEMPS...RAW NAM VALUES ARE WELL INTO THE MID 50S ALL AREAS...BUT WAS NOT WILLING TO GO QUITE THIS WARM YET...AND THUS ONLY MADE MINOR ADJUSTMENTS TO PREVIOUS FORECAST WITH MOST NEB ZONES TOPPING OUT UPPER 40S AND KS LOWER 50S. THURS NIGHT...THIS LOOKS TO BE THE MOST UNEVENTFUL PERIOD OF THE NEXT 72 HOURS...AS AN EXPANSIVE SURFACE RIDGE AXIS SETTLES INTO THE REGION FROM THE NORTH...AND ANY LIGHT SNOW ACCUMULATIONS ASSOCIATED WITH TRAILING MID LEVEL SHORTWAVE ENERGY AND LOW LEVEL UPSLOPE FLOW SHOULD REMAIN NO CLOSER THAN THE NEB/CO/KS BORDER AREA. DESPITE A POTENTIAL INCREASE IN MID LEVEL CLOUDS...OPTED TO LOWER LOW TEMPS 2-3 DEGREES FROM PREVIOUS FCST AND POSSIBLY NOT ENOUGH...BUT AT LEAST GETTING ALL AREAS INTO THE SUB-FREEZING 26-32 RANGE. LONG TERM...STARTING 12Z FRIDAY...THE LONGWAVE TROUGH ACROSS THE WEST COAST THIS MORNING WILL BE CENTERED OVER THE PLAINS ON FRIDAY...WITH SEVERAL EMBEDDED WEAK DISTURBANCES EXPECTED TO HAVE LITTLE IMPACT IN THE WAY OF CHANCES FOR PRECIP ACROSS THE LOCAL AREA. SOME DISCREPANCIES EVIDENT WITH THE HANDLING OF THIS TROUGH AS IT PUSHES EAST LATE IN THE WEEKEND...WITH THE EC QUICKLY BUILDING A RIDGE OVER THE INTERMOUNTAIN WEST RESULTING IN RISING HEIGHTS ACROSS THE PLAINS...IN RESPONSE TO THE LONGWAVE TROUGH INTERACTS WITH A TROPICAL DISTURBANCE OFF THE EASTERN SEABOARD...AND THE LATEST GFS DEPICTING A MORE ZONAL WEST TO NORTHWEST FLOW ACROSS THE REGION BY EARLY NEXT WEEK...AS THE AFOREMENTIONED TROPICAL DISTURBANCE INSTEAD TRACKS OUT INTO THE OPEN ATLANTIC. EITHER WAY...THIS APPEARS TO BE A DRY PATTERN FOR THE LOCAL AREA AS THERE ARE NO SIGNIFICANT FEATURES FORECAST TO IMPACT THE AREA IN THE DIVERGENT UPPER LEVEL FLOW PATTERNS DEPICTED AMONGST THE LONG TERM MODELS. THEREFORE...EXPECT DRY CONDITIONS...WITH CONTINUED UNSEASONABLY COOL TEMPERATURES...TO AT LEAST START THE EXTENDED PERIODS...WITH TEMPERATURES POSSIBLY WARMING CLOSER TO CLIMATOLOGY...WHILE REMAINING DRY...EARLY NEXT WEEK IF THE EC SOLUTION ENDS UP BEING CORRECT. HOWEVER...DUE TO THE UNCERTAINTY OF THE SYNOPTIC SCALE PATTERN EARLY NEXT WEEK...STUCK WITH ALLBLEND MODEL SOLUTION THIS MORNING...WITH NO NOTABLE TWEAKS TO SPEAK OF. && .GID WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... NE...NONE. KS...NONE. && $$ UPDATE...BRYANT SHORT TERM...PFANNKUCH LONG TERM/AVIATION...ROSSI
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633 AM CDT TUE OCT 23 2012 .UPDATE... .AVIATION... LIFR/IFR CIGS AND VSBY IMPROVE TO VFR FROM WEST TO EAST BETWEEN 15Z AND 18Z ALONG AND WEST OF HIGHWAY 83. EAST OF HIGHWAY 83...LIFR/IFR CIGS AND VIS IMPROVE TO IFR/MVFR CIGS AROUND 18Z AND THEN VFR BY 21Z. A COLD FRONT WILL DROP INTO THE FCST AREA TONIGHT. A NARROW AREA OF MVFR/IFR CIGS MAY DEVELOP POSSIBLE AFTER 09Z TONIGHT. && .PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 410 AM CDT TUE OCT 23 2012/ DISCUSSION... PRIMARY FOCUS THROUGH THIS FORECAST PERIOD IS FOG AND TEMPERATURES TODAY...THEN RAIN/SNOW CHANCES FOCUSED ON WEDNESDAY NIGHT AND THURSDAY. BEYOND THAT...COLDER TEMPERATURES FOR THE LATTER HALF OF THE WEEK. WATER VAPOR IMAGERY THIS MORNING SHOWS A LONGWAVE TROUGH OVER THE EASTERN PACIFIC INTO THE WESTERN CONUS...WITH RIDGING ACROSS THE GREAT LAKES. A WEAK SHORTWAVE TROUGH WAS OBSERVED ACROSS THE NORTHERN PLAINS...WITH SUBSIDENCE ALOFT ACROSS NEBRASKA HELPING TO KEEP THE MID-LEVELS DRY THIS MORNING. SEVERAL OTHER SHORTWAVES OF NOTE WITHIN THE LONGWAVE TROUGH WERE ONE OVER NEVADA...WITH ANOTHER STILL OVER THE OCEAN. AT THE SURFACE...SOUTH TO SOUTHEAST FLOW WAS BRINGING IN LOW LEVEL MOISTURE AND WITH THE DRY AIR ALOFT...FOG HAS DEVELOPED ACROSS ALMOST ALL OF NEBRASKA BY 08Z. THIS HAS KEPT TEMPERATURES UP...WITH READINGS IN THE MID 40S TO LOW 50S. THE OTHER FEATURE TO NOTE IS LOW PRESSURE ON THE LEE SIDE OF THE ROCKIES. SHORT TERM...TODAY THROUGH THURSDAY NIGHT ACCORDING TO THE RUC AND THE NAM...FOG SHOULD SLOWLY DISSIPATE FROM THE WEST...BUT PLACES OVER THE EASTERN PART OF THE FORECAST AREA...EAST OF HIGHWAY 83 COULD SEE THE FOG LINGER INTO THE EARLY AFTERNOON HOURS. THE FOG WILL HAVE A BIG IMPACT ON HIGH TEMPERATURES TODAY SO IF IT FAILS TO DISSIPATE BY 18Z OR 19Z...TEMPERATURES COULD BE UP TO 10 DEGREES TO WARM IN PLACES. DAY SHIFT WILL NEED TO MONITOR TRENDS IN CASE TEMPERATURE FORECAST NEEDS TO BE MODIFIED. 850MB TEMPERATURES WILL INCREASE TODAY /BETWEEN 15C AND 23C/ DUE TO WARM AIR ADVECTION AHEAD OF THE AREA OF LOW PRESSURE TO THE WEST. ASSUMING SKIES CLEAR...TEMPERATURES SHOULD WARM CONSIDERABLY...WITH LOW 80S POSSIBLE ACROSS SOUTHWEST NEBRASKA. THE SHORTWAVE TROUGH OVER NEVADA WILL LIFT INTO MONTANA TODAY...WHICH WILL GIVE THE FRONT TO THE WEST A BIT OF A PUSH EASTWARD. THE NAM PUSHES A DRYLINE ACROSS THE SANDHILLS THIS AFTERNOON...WHICH COULD DROP DEWPOINTS INTO THE LOW 30S. GOING SOUTH...DEWPOINTS WILL DROP INTO THE 30S AS WELL AS THE DRYLINE PROGRESSES EAST. THIS WILL PROMOTE DEEP MIXING TO NEAR 700MB. WINDS THROUGH THE MIXED LAYER WILL BE STRONGEST ACROSS NORTHWEST NEBRASKA...WHERE GUSTS TO 30 MPH LOOK POSSIBLE THIS AFTERNOON. GOING SOUTH...WINDS ALOFT DECREASE SO WINDY CONDITIONS ARE NOT EXPECTED. WITH THE TEMPERATURES EXPECTED TODAY...LOWEST RELATIVE HUMIDITY WILL BE ACROSS SOUTHWEST NEBRASKA...WITH VALUES DROPPING TO THE MID 20S WHERE WINDS WILL BE STRONG. AS IS FORECAST...CRITICAL FIRE WEATHER CONDITIONS WILL NOT BE MET...ALTHOUGH MARGINAL CONDITIONS WILL BE LIKELY IN A FEW LOCATIONS FOR AT LEAST A FEW HOURS TODAY. AGAIN...CLOUD COVER COULD HAMPER THIS FROM OCCURRING...SO WILL NEED TO MONITOR TRENDS FOR POTENTIAL FIRE WEATHER ISSUES TODAY. THE MONTANA WAVE LIFTS INTO CANADA TONIGHT...WITH A COLD FRONT TO THE WEST PROGRESSING SOUTHEAST ACROSS NEBRASKA TONIGHT. BY MID MORNING WEDNESDAY SHOULD BE THROUGH MOST OF THE FORECAST AREA. COULD AGAIN SEE SOME FOG WEDNESDAY MORNING...BUT THIS SHOULD BE CONFINED TO AREAS RIGHT ALONG AND BEHIND THE FRONT WHERE LOW LEVEL MOISTURE POOLS. A THE SHORTWAVE TROUGH WILL ALSO MOVE ONLAND TONIGHT...WHICH WILL THEN PROGRESS ACROSS UTAH AND INTO COLORADO ON WEDNESDAY. AS THIS IS ONGOING...A 700MB TROUGH WILL PASS ACROSS THE NORTHERN AND CENTRAL PLAINS WEDNESDAY AND WEDNESDAY NIGHT. MODELS ARE SHOWING GOOD FRONTOGENETICAL FORCING...WHILE THE LOCATION OF THE UPPER LEVEL JET STREAK PUTS NORTHWEST NEBRASKA IN AN AREA OF GOOD LARGE-SCALE LIFT. THE SIGNAL HAS BEEN QUITE CONSISTENT IN TIMING AND LOCATION OF THE BEST FORCING FROM THE DIFFERENT MODELS OVER THE PAST FEW DAYS SO CONFIDENCE HAS INCREASED IN GETTING PRECIPITATION ACROSS THE FORECAST AREA. IT MAY TAKE A BIT OF TIME TO SATURATE THE LOW LEVELS...SO ONLY BEGAN CHANCES FOR RAIN IN THE FAR NORTHERN PARTS OF SHERIDAN AND CHERRY COUNTIES WEDNESDAY MORNING AND SLOWLY EXPANDING SOUTH THROUGH THE AFTERNOON. WEDNESDAY EVENING LOOKS TO SEE THE BEST CHANCES FOR PRECIPITATION IN AREAS NORTHWEST OF AN IMPERIAL TO VALENTINE LINE...AND THOUGH DO HAVE RAIN CHANCES TO THE EAST...LOWERED CHANCES BEFORE MIDNIGHT AS TOO MUCH DRY AIR LOOKS TO EXIST IN THESE AREAS. THE PRECIPITATION AREA DOES SHIFT TO THE SOUTH AND EAST AFTER MIDNIGHT...BUT AS THE PRIMARY SHORTWAVE TROUGH EXITS THE AREA BY 12Z THURSDAY MORNING...LARGE-SCALE FORCING WILL DETERIORATE SO CHANCES HAVE LOWERED FOR THURSDAY. BY LATE AFTERNOON THURSDAY...EXPECT THE FORECAST AREA TO SEE PRIMARILY DRY CONDITIONS. THERE IS ANOTHER SHORTWAVE THAT WILL ROUND THE LONGWAVE TROUGH LATER THURSDAY AND THURSDAY NIGHT...BUT THE TREND CONTINUES TO GO SOUTH SO PRECIPITATION CHANCES LOOK TO STAY TO THE SOUTH. TEMPERATURE PROFILES CONTINUE TO SHOW THE PRECIPITATION TYPE BEGIN AS RAIN...BUT CHANGE OVER TO A RAIN/SNOW MIX WITH SNOW BECOMING THE DOMINANT TYPE ACROSS THE NORTHWEST AREAS AFTER MIDNIGHT WEDNESDAY NIGHT. HAVE RAIN OR SNOW IN THE FORECAST ACROSS THE ENTIRE AREA FOR THURSDAY MORNING AS THE PROFILES HUG 0C IN THE LOWEST LEVELS ABOVE THE SURFACE. DON/T EXPECT MUCH ACCUMULATION OF SNOW...WITH PRECIPITATION ACCUMULATIONS UP TO A THIRD OF AN INCH MAINLY NORTH OF INTERSTATE 80. LONG TERM...FRIDAY THROUGH MONDAY COLD TEMPERATURES WILL BE THE HIGHLIGHT FOR THE WEEKEND AS HIGHS WILL BE HARD PRESSED TO MAKE IT OUT OF THE 30S AND 40S FOR FRIDAY AND SATURDAY. LOWS ALSO WILL BE QUITE COLD...ALTHOUGH THE 23.00Z MODEL SOLUTIONS ARE A BIT WARMER FOR BOTH FRIDAY AND SATURDAY NIGHTS WITH THE SURFACE HIGH NOW LOOKING TO STAY OFF TO THE EAST OF THE FORECAST AREA. LOWS SHOULD STILL EASILY DROP INTO THE 20S...WITH TEENS POSSIBLE FRIDAY NIGHT. THE TREND NOW LOOKS FOR WARMER CONDITIONS GOING INTO NEXT WEEK AS RIDGING BUILDS OVER THE WESTERN HALF OF THE COUNTRY. THIS WILL BRING MILD TEMPERATURES BACK INTO THE CENTRAL PLAINS WITH 850MB TEMPERATURES WARMING INTO THE TEENS AGAIN BY MONDAY...COMPARED TO READINGS BELOW 0C WHICH WILL BE EXPERIENCED FRIDAY AND SATURDAY. THE FORECAST IS DRY THROUGH THIS PERIOD AS THE LONGWAVE TROUGH WILL PUSH THE MOISTURE ACROSS THE PLAINS WELL TO THE SOUTHEAST. AVIATION... LIFR/IFR CIGS AND VSBY IMPROVE TO VFR FROM WEST TO EAST BETWEEN 15Z AND 18Z ALONG AND WEST OF HIGHWAY 83. EAST OF HIGHWAY 83...LIFR/IFR CIGS AND VIS IMPROVE TO IFR/MVFR CIGS AROUND 18Z AND THEN VFR BY 21Z. A COLD FRONT WILL DROP INTO THE FCST AREA TONIGHT WITH MVFR/IFR CIGS POSSIBLE AFTER 06Z TUESDAY NIGHT. FIRE WEATHER... POTENTIAL RED FLAG CONDITIONS WILL BE MONITORED ACROSS WRN NEB THIS AFTERNOON DEPENDING ON THE PROGRESS OF A CLEARING LINE FCST TO DEVELOP ACROSS THE PANHANDLE THIS MORNING. && .LBF WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...NONE. && $$ SHORT TERM/EXTENDED...CDC AVIATION...CDC
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556 AM CDT TUE OCT 23 2012 .AVIATION...12Z KGRI TAF...STRATUS CONTINUES TO COVER A GOOD PORTION OF THE CENTRAL PLAINS THIS MORNING WITH LIFR/IFR CIGS MIXED THROUGHOUT AREAS OF FG/BR/-DZ. EXPECT THE LIFR/IFR CONDITIONS WILL PERSIST THROUGH AROUND 23/16Z...WHEN CIGS AND VISIBILITIES ARE EXPECTED TO BEGIN TO IMPROVE MORE SUBSTANTIALLY AS WINDS BEGIN TO INCREASE OUT OF THE SOUTH AND SOME MIXING ALLOWS FOR CIGS/VSBYS TO BEGIN TO LIFT/IMPROVE. THIS IMPROVING TREND IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE THROUGH EARLY AFTERNOON...WITH A RETURN TO VFR CIGS/VSBYS EXPECTED BY 23/19Z...AS INDICATED BY LATEST SHORT TERM GUIDANCE. && .PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 516 AM CDT TUE OCT 23 2012/ SHORT TERM...THROUGH THURSDAY NIGHT. ANOTHER NIGHT...AND ANOTHER SET OF SEVERAL TRICKY FORECAST ELEMENTS DURING THE NEXT 72 HOURS...NAMELY HIGH TEMPS AND PRECIP/FOG TRENDS...AND WHETHER ANY STORMS WED NIGHT MIGHT GO SEVERE. 09Z OBJECTIVE SURFACE ANALYSIS CONFIRMS THAT THE ENTIRE CWA LIES NORTH OF A QUASI-STATIONARY BOUNDARY SNAKING EAST-NORTHEAST ACROSS SOUTHERN/EASTERN KANSAS AND EXTENDING FROM A WEAK 1003MB LOW IN SOUTHEAST CO. BREEZES ACROSS THE CWA RANGE FROM LIGHT/VARIABLE TO LIGHT EASTERLY...WITH LITTLE IF ANY TEMP/DEWPOINT DEPRESSION WITH VALUES RANGING GENERALLY 47-53 ALL AREAS. AS EXPECTED 24 HOURS AGO...VARYING DEGREES OF FOG HAVE SETTLED IN OVERNIGHT...WITH THE ENTIRE CWA SEEING NO BETTER THAN 2-3 MILE VISIBILITY...AND THE MOST CONCENTRATED ZONE OF DENSE FOG 1/4 MILE OR LOWER VSBY FOCUSED FROM I-80 SOUTHWARD INTO KANSAS PER AUTOMATED OBS AND WEBCAMS. LIGHT DRIZZLE HAS SEEMINGLY BEEN OFF AND ON OVERNIGHT...BUT IS LIKELY STILL PRESENT IN MUCH OF THE CWA. ALOFT...WATER VAPOR SATELLITE IMAGERY AND LATEST MODEL DATA CONFIRM BROAD WEST- SOUTHWEST FLOW OVER THE CENTRAL PLAINS...WHICH IS POSITIONED DOWNSTREAM FROM A LARGE SCALE TROUGH ANCHORED ACROSS THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST WITH A CLOSED 500MB LOW OFF THE WASHINGTON STATE COAST. CLOSER TO HOME...A SMALL SCALE SHORTWAVE TROUGH IS CURRENTLY DEPARTING EASTWARD ACROSS MO...PROMOTING CONSIDERABLE ELEVATED THUNDERSTORM ACTIVITY IN THAT AREA. STARTING OFF EARLY THIS MORNING...THE MOST IMMEDIATE ISSUE IS THE ONGOING CWA-WIDE DENSE FOG ADVISORY VALID THROUGH 15Z...AND WILL LET IT RIDE AS-IS FOR NOW. TECHNICALLY SPEAKING...AUTOMATED OBS SUGGEST THAT SO FAR THE MAJORITY OF ANY LOCALLY DENSE FOG HAS BEEN CONFINED TO AREAS SOUTH OF THE I-80 CORRIDOR...BUT VARIOUS SHORT TERM VISIBILITY GUIDANCE FROM THE HRRR/SREF SUGGEST THAT A NORTHWARD EXPANSION OF DENSE FOG IS QUITE POSSIBLE YET THIS MORNING...AND AM NOT ABOUT TO CANCEL ANY OF THIS ADVISORY UNTIL TRENDS CAN BE MONITORED FOR AT LEAST A FEW MORE HOURS. IN FACT...AM STARTING TO EVEN WONDER IF THE 15Z EXPIRATION TIME WILL BE LONG ENOUGH...WITH BOTH THE HRRR AND HOURLY GFS LAMP GUIDANCE SUGGESTING THAT SOME AREAS COULD REMAIN RATHER SOCKED IN UNTIL AT LEAST 16Z-17Z. DAY SHIFT WILL HAVE TO KEEP AN EYE ON THE POSSIBLE NEED FOR AN EXTENSION. AS FOR THE OFF AND ON LIGHT DRIZZLE SUCH AS OBSERVED HERE AT THE WFO TONIGHT...HAVE IT MENTIONED CWA-WIDE THROUGH 12Z...BUT HAVE THEN ATTEMPTED TO CONFINE IT TO ONLY A HANDFUL OF COUNTIES EAST OF HWY 281 POST-SUNRISE...WHERE NAM SOUNDINGS INDICATED THAT THE SATURATED LAYER WOULD REMAIN DEEPER...GENERALLY NEAR/IN EXCESS OF 2500 FT. THAT BEING SAID...CANNOT COMPLETELY RULE OUT POST-SUNRISE LIGHT DRIZZLE EVEN IN THE TRI-CITIES AREA WESTWARD GIVEN SUCH A MOIST LOW LEVEL PROFILE. AS FOR SKY COVER...CONFIDENCE IS CONSIDERABLY HIGHER TODAY THAT MUCH OF THE CWA WILL SEE AT LEAST A FEW HOURS OF PARTLY TO MOSTLY SUNNY SKIES AT SOME POINT...BUT EXACTLY WHEN IS STILL IN QUESTION. HAVE GENERALLY FOLLOWED THE 00Z/06Z NAM SOLUTION OF KEEPING NEARLY ALL AREAS SOCKED IN WITH STRATUS AND AT LEAST LIGHT FOG THROUGH THE MORNING HOURS...BUT THEN ERODING FROM WEST-EAST THROUGH THE AFTERNOON WEARS ON AS EVIDENCED BY THE 900MB RELATIVE HUMIDITY FIELD. THIS MEANS THAT FAR EASTERN COUNTIES ALONG THE HWY 81 WOULD BE LAST TO SEE ANY CLEARING. AFTER BUSTING HIGH TEMPS BY 10+ DEGREES YESTERDAY DUE TO WIDESPREAD LOW STRATUS...AM IN NO HURRY TO GO WITH THE WARM END OF AVAILABLE GUIDANCE/MODEL SOLUTIONS TODAY ESPECIALLY IN EASTERN ZONES. AFTER TRYING VARIOUS SOLUTIONS ON FOR SIZE...ENDED UP GOING WITH THE 00Z NAM ALMOST EXACTLY...AS ITS TEMP FIELD SEEMED TO BEST-CAPTURE THE GRADUAL WEST-EAST CLEARING. THIS RESULTS IN A DECENT RANGE FROM NEAR 80 FAR WEST ...LOW-MID 70S CENTRAL AND UPPER 60S EAST. PLEASE NOTE THESE VALUES ARE AT LEAST A FEW DEGREES COOLER THAN PREVIOUS FORECAST ALL AREAS...AND AS MUCH AS 5-8 DEGREES COOLER IN THE EAST. LIKE YESTERDAY...COULD EASILY FORESEE HIGHS BEING OFF BY 5+ DEGREES DEPENDING ON STRATUS/FOG TRENDS. TONIGHT...KEPT OUT ALL MENTION OF PRECIP CWA-WIDE...AND AM NOT EXPECTING A DENSE FOG REPEAT SUCH AS THE ONGOING ONE...BUT DID INSERT A PATCHY FOG MENTION INTO SEVERAL COUNTIES NORTH OF I-80 AFTER MIDNIGHT IN CLOSEST PROXIMITY TO THE HIGHEST BOUNDARY LAYER RELATIVE HUMIDITY POOLING IN THE VICINITY OF THE LEADING EDGES OF THE INVADING COLD FRONT. CLOUD TRENDS TONIGHT ARE CERTAINLY A CHALLENGE...WITH THE POTENTIAL FOR QUITE AN INCREASE IN STRATUS TOWARD SUNRISE NEAR THIS BOUNDARY...FOLLOWING WHAT SHOULD BE A FAIRLY CLEAR EVENING FOR MOST AREAS. ALOFT...THE BIG PICTURE INVOLVES A LEAD SHORTWAVE TRACKING ACROSS FAR SOUTH CENTRAL CANADA...WHICH HELPS DRIVE THE SURFACE FRONT INTO THE NORTHERN CWA...WHILE A TROUGH AXIS SETS UP FROM SOUTHWEST-NORTHEAST ACROSS KS. KEPT LOWS SIMILAR TO PREVIOUS FORECAST AND A GUIDANCE BLEND...RANGING FROM LOW-MID 40S NORTHWEST TO UPPER 50S/NEAR 60 SOUTHEAST WHERE DEWPOINTS WILL BE ON THE INCREASE. WEDNESDAY...OTHER THAN THE LINGERING PATCHY FOG MENTION NORTH IN THE MORNING...HAVE KEPT OUT ANY OTHER WEATHER MENTION THROUGH SUNSET...AS THE GENERAL MODEL CONSENSUS IS TO KEEP ANY LIGHT DAYTIME DRIZZLY PRECIP NORTHEAST OF THE CWA...AND ANY LATE-DAY CONVECTION ALONG/NEAR THE INVADING COLD FRONT JUST SOUTHEAST OF THE CWA. THAT BEING SAID...SKY COVER AND TEMP TRENDS ARE AGAIN QUITE A CHALLENGE...AS QUITE A BIT OF STRATUS SHOULD DOMINATE MUCH OF THE NORTHWEST CWA WITH MORE SUNSHINE SOUTHEAST. FORTUNATELY...THE LATEST MODEL RUNS ARE IN REASONABLY GOOD AGREEMENT REGARDING WHAT WILL CERTAINLY BE A SHARP TEMP GRADIENT...AND ONLY MADE MINOR ADJUSTMENTS TO PREVIOUS FORECAST...AIMING FOR A RANGE FROM UPPER 50S FAR NORTH...MID 60S TO LOW 70S TRI CITIES AREA...AND LOW 80S FAR SOUTHEAST IN THE HEBRON-BELOIT CORRIDOR. AGAIN THOUGH...5+ DEGREE DEVIATIONS FROM CURRENT FORECAST ARE VERY POSSIBLE IF NOT LIKELY. PONDERED GOING WITH A NON-DIURNAL TEMP TREND BEHIND THE FRONT...BUT MODELS ARE NOT REALLY SHOWING MUCH OF AN AFTERNOON DROP SO STUCK WITH TRADITIONAL MID-LATE AFTERNOON HIGHS ALL AREAS FOR NOW. THIS COLD FRONT WILL NOT EXACTLY BLAST THROUGH THE AREA...AND BY SUNSET WILL JUST BE REACHING FAR SOUTHEAST ZONES...WHILE MOST OF THE CWA WILL ALREADY BE IN SUSTAINED NORTH WINDS 15-20 MPH. WEDNESDAY NIGHT IS CLEARLY STILL THE MAIN 12-HOUR WINDOW FOR POTENTIALLY DECENT RAIN AMOUNTS...AND ACTUALLY RAISED POPS INTO THE 60-70 PERCENT RANGE ACROSS MUCH OF THE EASTERN CWA...WHILE LEAVING SOUTHWEST AREAS IN THE 40-50 PERCENT RANGE. IN SHORT...LARGE SCALE FORCING/MID LEVEL FRONTOGENESIS RAMPS UP AS A POTENT OPEN WAVE OVER THE CENTRAL ROCKIES MOVES INTO THE CENTRAL PLAINS...FEATURING A 110+KT 300MB JET STREAK. LEFT THE POP/WEATHER GRIDS AS ONE 12-HOUR BLOCK FOR NOW...BUT GENERAL THINKING IS THAT MOST WIDESPREAD COVERAGE OF SHOWERS/STORMS WILL HOLD OFF UNTIL NEAR/AFTER MIDNIGHT...UNLESS SOME EVENING ACTIVITY FLARES UP IN THE FAR SOUTH/SOUTHEAST NEAR THE MAIN SURFACE FRONT. LATEST NAM CONTINUES TO SHOW A HEALTHY CORRIDOR OF MUCAPE 1500+ J/KG IN THE 850-700MB LAYER MAINLY ACROSS THE SOUTHEAST 1/2 OF THE CWA...DROPPING OFF SHORTLY TO THE NORTHWEST. HOWEVER...WILL KEEP ISOLATED THUNDER EVEN IN THIS NORTHWEST AREAS. WITH VERY STRONG DEEP-LAYER SHEAR OF 60+ KNOTS MOVING IN...HAVE INCREASING CONCERNS THAT AT LEAST MARGINALLY SEVERE HAIL COULD OCCUR IN SOUTHEAST COUNTIES...AND DESPITE SPC KEEPING THE OFFICIAL DAY2 SLIGHT RISK OUTLOOK JUST EAST OF THE CWA...AT LEAST FOR NOW...WILL GO AHEAD AND ADD THIS MENTION TO THE HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK AS THESE STRONG DYNAMICS ARE HARD TO IGNORE. DEPENDING ON HOW WIDESPREAD STORMS ARE...COULD FORESEE SOME FORTUNATE AREAS RECEIVING IN EXCESS OF ONE-HALF INCH OF RAIN BUT THIS WILL PROBABLY BE THE EXCEPTION. ALTHOUGH SOME SNOW OR RAIN/SNOW MIX COULD TRY DEVELOPING IN WESTERN NEBRASKA IN THE COLDER AIR WELL BEHIND THE FRONT...LATEST CONSENSUS IS THAT WINTRY PRECIP WED NIGHT SHOULD FOCUS AT LEAST 50 MILES WEST OF THE CWA...AND THUS WILL KEEP ANY SNOW MENTION OUT FOR NOW. THURSDAY...SPLIT THE DAY INTO 6-HOUR BLOCKS...WITH ALL PRECIP GONE BY THE AFTERNOON HOURS...AND POTENTIALLY EVEN GONE BY MID-MORNING IN MOST AREAS PER SOME OF THE LATEST TRENDS INCLUDING THE 00Z ECMWF...WHICH QUICKLY SHUTS OFF THE MID LEVEL LIFT/SATURATION FROM NORTHWEST-SOUTHEAST. LATER ADJUSTMENTS WILL BE NEEDED...BUT FOR NOW KEPT 20-40 POPS ACROSS MOST OF THE CWA IN THE MORNING FOR GENERAL LIGHT RAIN...WITH NO THUNDER MENTION AND STILL NO SNOW MENTION...ALTHOUGH SUPPOSE A FEW FLURRIES COULD SNEAK INTO FAR NORTHWEST ZONES JUST BEFORE PRECIP SHUTS OFF FOR GOOD GIVEN SURFACE TEMPS FORECAST TO DROP INTO THE MID 30S EARLY THURSDAY MORNING. OTHERWISE...EXPECT INCREASING SUNSHINE AS THE DAY WEARS ON...ALTHOUGH IT WILL REMAIN QUITE BREEZY WITH SUSTAINED NORTH WINDS AROUND 20 MPH WITH GUSTS TO AROUND 30 MPH. FOR HIGH TEMPS...RAW NAM VALUES ARE WELL INTO THE MID 50S ALL AREAS...BUT WAS NOT WILLING TO GO QUITE THIS WARM YET...AND THUS ONLY MADE MINOR ADJUSTMENTS TO PREVIOUS FORECAST WITH MOST NEB ZONES TOPPING OUT UPPER 40S AND KS LOWER 50S. THURS NIGHT...THIS LOOKS TO BE THE MOST UNEVENTFUL PERIOD OF THE NEXT 72 HOURS...AS AN EXPANSIVE SURFACE RIDGE AXIS SETTLES INTO THE REGION FROM THE NORTH...AND ANY LIGHT SNOW ACCUMULATIONS ASSOCIATED WITH TRAILING MID LEVEL SHORTWAVE ENERGY AND LOW LEVEL UPSLOPE FLOW SHOULD REMAIN NO CLOSER THAN THE NEB/CO/KS BORDER AREA. DESPITE A POTENTIAL INCREASE IN MID LEVEL CLOUDS...OPTED TO LOWER LOW TEMPS 2-3 DEGREES FROM PREVIOUS FCST AND POSSIBLY NOT ENOUGH...BUT AT LEAST GETTING ALL AREAS INTO THE SUB-FREEZING 26-32 RANGE. LONG TERM...STARTING 12Z FRIDAY...THE LONGWAVE TROUGH ACROSS THE WEST COAST THIS MORNING WILL BE CENTERED OVER THE PLAINS ON FRIDAY...WITH SEVERAL EMBEDDED WEAK DISTURBANCES EXPECTED TO HAVE LITTLE IMPACT IN THE WAY OF CHANCES FOR PRECIP ACROSS THE LOCAL AREA. SOME DISCREPANCIES EVIDENT WITH THE HANDLING OF THIS TROUGH AS IT PUSHES EAST LATE IN THE WEEKEND...WITH THE EC QUICKLY BUILDING A RIDGE OVER THE INTERMOUNTAIN WEST RESULTING IN RISING HEIGHTS ACROSS THE PLAINS...IN RESPONSE TO THE LONGWAVE TROUGH INTERACTS WITH A TROPICAL DISTURBANCE OFF THE EASTERN SEABOARD...AND THE LATEST GFS DEPICTING A MORE ZONAL WEST TO NORTHWEST FLOW ACROSS THE REGION BY EARLY NEXT WEEK...AS THE AFOREMENTIONED TROPICAL DISTURBANCE INSTEAD TRACKS OUT INTO THE OPEN ATLANTIC. EITHER WAY...THIS APPEARS TO BE A DRY PATTERN FOR THE LOCAL AREA AS THERE ARE NO SIGNIFICANT FEATURES FORECAST TO IMPACT THE AREA IN THE DIVERGENT UPPER LEVEL FLOW PATTERNS DEPICTED AMONGST THE LONG TERM MODELS. THEREFORE...EXPECT DRY CONDITIONS...WITH CONTINUED UNSEASONABLY COOL TEMPERATURES...TO AT LEAST START THE EXTENDED PERIODS...WITH TEMPERATURES POSSIBLY WARMING CLOSER TO CLIMATOLOGY...WHILE REMAINING DRY...EARLY NEXT WEEK IF THE EC SOLUTION ENDS UP BEING CORRECT. HOWEVER...DUE TO THE UNCERTAINTY OF THE SYNOPTIC SCALE PATTERN EARLY NEXT WEEK...STUCK WITH ALLBLEND MODEL SOLUTION THIS MORNING...WITH NO NOTABLE TWEAKS TO SPEAK OF. && .GID WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... NE...DENSE FOG ADVISORY UNTIL 10 AM CDT THIS MORNING FOR NEZ039>041- 046>049-060>064-072>077-082>087. KS...DENSE FOG ADVISORY UNTIL 10 AM CDT THIS MORNING FOR KSZ005>007- 017>019. && $$ SHORT TERM...PFANNKUCH LONG TERM/AVIATION...ROSSI
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NWS HASTINGS NE
516 AM CDT TUE OCT 23 2012 .SHORT TERM...THROUGH THURSDAY NIGHT. ANOTHER NIGHT...AND ANOTHER SET OF SEVERAL TRICKY FORECAST ELEMENTS DURING THE NEXT 72 HOURS...NAMELY HIGH TEMPS AND PRECIP/FOG TRENDS...AND WHETHER ANY STORMS WED NIGHT MIGHT GO SEVERE. 09Z OBJECTIVE SURFACE ANALYSIS CONFIRMS THAT THE ENTIRE CWA LIES NORTH OF A QUASI-STATIONARY BOUNDARY SNAKING EAST-NORTHEAST ACROSS SOUTHERN/EASTERN KANSAS AND EXTENDING FROM A WEAK 1003MB LOW IN SOUTHEAST CO. BREEZES ACROSS THE CWA RANGE FROM LIGHT/VARIABLE TO LIGHT EASTERLY...WITH LITTLE IF ANY TEMP/DEWPOINT DEPRESSION WITH VALUES RANGING GENERALLY 47-53 ALL AREAS. AS EXPECTED 24 HOURS AGO...VARYING DEGREES OF FOG HAVE SETTLED IN OVERNIGHT...WITH THE ENTIRE CWA SEEING NO BETTER THAN 2-3 MILE VISIBILITY...AND THE MOST CONCENTRATED ZONE OF DENSE FOG 1/4 MILE OR LOWER VSBY FOCUSED FROM I-80 SOUTHWARD INTO KANSAS PER AUTOMATED OBS AND WEBCAMS. LIGHT DRIZZLE HAS SEEMINGLY BEEN OFF AND ON OVERNIGHT...BUT IS LIKELY STILL PRESENT IN MUCH OF THE CWA. ALOFT...WATER VAPOR SATELLITE IMAGERY AND LATEST MODEL DATA CONFIRM BROAD WEST- SOUTHWEST FLOW OVER THE CENTRAL PLAINS...WHICH IS POSITIONED DOWNSTREAM FROM A LARGE SCALE TROUGH ANCHORED ACROSS THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST WITH A CLOSED 500MB LOW OFF THE WASHINGTON STATE COAST. CLOSER TO HOME...A SMALL SCALE SHORTWAVE TROUGH IS CURRENTLY DEPARTING EASTWARD ACROSS MO...PROMOTING CONSIDERABLE ELEVATED THUNDERSTORM ACTIVITY IN THAT AREA. STARTING OFF EARLY THIS MORNING...THE MOST IMMEDIATE ISSUE IS THE ONGOING CWA-WIDE DENSE FOG ADVISORY VALID THROUGH 15Z...AND WILL LET IT RIDE AS-IS FOR NOW. TECHNICALLY SPEAKING...AUTOMATED OBS SUGGEST THAT SO FAR THE MAJORITY OF ANY LOCALLY DENSE FOG HAS BEEN CONFINED TO AREAS SOUTH OF THE I-80 CORRIDOR...BUT VARIOUS SHORT TERM VISIBILITY GUIDANCE FROM THE HRRR/SREF SUGGEST THAT A NORTHWARD EXPANSION OF DENSE FOG IS QUITE POSSIBLE YET THIS MORNING...AND AM NOT ABOUT TO CANCEL ANY OF THIS ADVISORY UNTIL TRENDS CAN BE MONITORED FOR AT LEAST A FEW MORE HOURS. IN FACT...AM STARTING TO EVEN WONDER IF THE 15Z EXPIRATION TIME WILL BE LONG ENOUGH...WITH BOTH THE HRRR AND HOURLY GFS LAMP GUIDANCE SUGGESTING THAT SOME AREAS COULD REMAIN RATHER SOCKED IN UNTIL AT LEAST 16Z-17Z. DAY SHIFT WILL HAVE TO KEEP AN EYE ON THE POSSIBLE NEED FOR AN EXTENSION. AS FOR THE OFF AND ON LIGHT DRIZZLE SUCH AS OBSERVED HERE AT THE WFO TONIGHT...HAVE IT MENTIONED CWA-WIDE THROUGH 12Z...BUT HAVE THEN ATTEMPTED TO CONFINE IT TO ONLY A HANDFUL OF COUNTIES EAST OF HWY 281 POST-SUNRISE...WHERE NAM SOUNDINGS INDICATED THAT THE SATURATED LAYER WOULD REMAIN DEEPER...GENERALLY NEAR/IN EXCESS OF 2500 FT. THAT BEING SAID...CANNOT COMPLETELY RULE OUT POST-SUNRISE LIGHT DRIZZLE EVEN IN THE TRI-CITIES AREA WESTWARD GIVEN SUCH A MOIST LOW LEVEL PROFILE. AS FOR SKY COVER...CONFIDENCE IS CONSIDERABLY HIGHER TODAY THAT MUCH OF THE CWA WILL SEE AT LEAST A FEW HOURS OF PARTLY TO MOSTLY SUNNY SKIES AT SOME POINT...BUT EXACTLY WHEN IS STILL IN QUESTION. HAVE GENERALLY FOLLOWED THE 00Z/06Z NAM SOLUTION OF KEEPING NEARLY ALL AREAS SOCKED IN WITH STRATUS AND AT LEAST LIGHT FOG THROUGH THE MORNING HOURS...BUT THEN ERODING FROM WEST-EAST THROUGH THE AFTERNOON WEARS ON AS EVIDENCED BY THE 900MB RELATIVE HUMIDITY FIELD. THIS MEANS THAT FAR EASTERN COUNTIES ALONG THE HWY 81 WOULD BE LAST TO SEE ANY CLEARING. AFTER BUSTING HIGH TEMPS BY 10+ DEGREES YESTERDAY DUE TO WIDESPREAD LOW STRATUS...AM IN NO HURRY TO GO WITH THE WARM END OF AVAILABLE GUIDANCE/MODEL SOLUTIONS TODAY ESPECIALLY IN EASTERN ZONES. AFTER TRYING VARIOUS SOLUTIONS ON FOR SIZE...ENDED UP GOING WITH THE 00Z NAM ALMOST EXACTLY...AS ITS TEMP FIELD SEEMED TO BEST-CAPTURE THE GRADUAL WEST-EAST CLEARING. THIS RESULTS IN A DECENT RANGE FROM NEAR 80 FAR WEST ...LOW-MID 70S CENTRAL AND UPPER 60S EAST. PLEASE NOTE THESE VALUES ARE AT LEAST A FEW DEGREES COOLER THAN PREVIOUS FORECAST ALL AREAS...AND AS MUCH AS 5-8 DEGREES COOLER IN THE EAST. LIKE YESTERDAY...COULD EASILY FORESEE HIGHS BEING OFF BY 5+ DEGREES DEPENDING ON STRATUS/FOG TRENDS. TONIGHT...KEPT OUT ALL MENTION OF PRECIP CWA-WIDE...AND AM NOT EXPECTING A DENSE FOG REPEAT SUCH AS THE ONGOING ONE...BUT DID INSERT A PATCHY FOG MENTION INTO SEVERAL COUNTIES NORTH OF I-80 AFTER MIDNIGHT IN CLOSEST PROXIMITY TO THE HIGHEST BOUNDARY LAYER RELATIVE HUMIDITY POOLING IN THE VICINITY OF THE LEADING EDGES OF THE INVADING COLD FRONT. CLOUD TRENDS TONIGHT ARE CERTAINLY A CHALLENGE...WITH THE POTENTIAL FOR QUITE AN INCREASE IN STRATUS TOWARD SUNRISE NEAR THIS BOUNDARY...FOLLOWING WHAT SHOULD BE A FAIRLY CLEAR EVENING FOR MOST AREAS. ALOFT...THE BIG PICTURE INVOLVES A LEAD SHORTWAVE TRACKING ACROSS FAR SOUTH CENTRAL CANADA...WHICH HELPS DRIVE THE SURFACE FRONT INTO THE NORTHERN CWA...WHILE A TROUGH AXIS SETS UP FROM SOUTHWEST-NORTHEAST ACROSS KS. KEPT LOWS SIMILAR TO PREVIOUS FORECAST AND A GUIDANCE BLEND...RANGING FROM LOW-MID 40S NORTHWEST TO UPPER 50S/NEAR 60 SOUTHEAST WHERE DEWPOINTS WILL BE ON THE INCREASE. WEDNESDAY...OTHER THAN THE LINGERING PATCHY FOG MENTION NORTH IN THE MORNING...HAVE KEPT OUT ANY OTHER WEATHER MENTION THROUGH SUNSET...AS THE GENERAL MODEL CONSENSUS IS TO KEEP ANY LIGHT DAYTIME DRIZZLY PRECIP NORTHEAST OF THE CWA...AND ANY LATE-DAY CONVECTION ALONG/NEAR THE INVADING COLD FRONT JUST SOUTHEAST OF THE CWA. THAT BEING SAID...SKY COVER AND TEMP TRENDS ARE AGAIN QUITE A CHALLENGE...AS QUITE A BIT OF STRATUS SHOULD DOMINATE MUCH OF THE NORTHWEST CWA WITH MORE SUNSHINE SOUTHEAST. FORTUNATELY...THE LATEST MODEL RUNS ARE IN REASONABLY GOOD AGREEMENT REGARDING WHAT WILL CERTAINLY BE A SHARP TEMP GRADIENT...AND ONLY MADE MINOR ADJUSTMENTS TO PREVIOUS FORECAST...AIMING FOR A RANGE FROM UPPER 50S FAR NORTH...MID 60S TO LOW 70S TRI CITIES AREA...AND LOW 80S FAR SOUTHEAST IN THE HEBRON-BELOIT CORRIDOR. AGAIN THOUGH...5+ DEGREE DEVIATIONS FROM CURRENT FORECAST ARE VERY POSSIBLE IF NOT LIKELY. PONDERED GOING WITH A NON-DIURNAL TEMP TREND BEHIND THE FRONT...BUT MODELS ARE NOT REALLY SHOWING MUCH OF AN AFTERNOON DROP SO STUCK WITH TRADITIONAL MID-LATE AFTERNOON HIGHS ALL AREAS FOR NOW. THIS COLD FRONT WILL NOT EXACTLY BLAST THROUGH THE AREA...AND BY SUNSET WILL JUST BE REACHING FAR SOUTHEAST ZONES...WHILE MOST OF THE CWA WILL ALREADY BE IN SUSTAINED NORTH WINDS 15-20 MPH. WEDNESDAY NIGHT IS CLEARLY STILL THE MAIN 12-HOUR WINDOW FOR POTENTIALLY DECENT RAIN AMOUNTS...AND ACTUALLY RAISED POPS INTO THE 60-70 PERCENT RANGE ACROSS MUCH OF THE EASTERN CWA...WHILE LEAVING SOUTHWEST AREAS IN THE 40-50 PERCENT RANGE. IN SHORT...LARGE SCALE FORCING/MID LEVEL FRONTOGENESIS RAMPS UP AS A POTENT OPEN WAVE OVER THE CENTRAL ROCKIES MOVES INTO THE CENTRAL PLAINS...FEATURING A 110+KT 300MB JET STREAK. LEFT THE POP/WEATHER GRIDS AS ONE 12-HOUR BLOCK FOR NOW...BUT GENERAL THINKING IS THAT MOST WIDESPREAD COVERAGE OF SHOWERS/STORMS WILL HOLD OFF UNTIL NEAR/AFTER MIDNIGHT...UNLESS SOME EVENING ACTIVITY FLARES UP IN THE FAR SOUTH/SOUTHEAST NEAR THE MAIN SURFACE FRONT. LATEST NAM CONTINUES TO SHOW A HEALTHY CORRIDOR OF MUCAPE 1500+ J/KG IN THE 850-700MB LAYER MAINLY ACROSS THE SOUTHEAST 1/2 OF THE CWA...DROPPING OFF SHORTLY TO THE NORTHWEST. HOWEVER...WILL KEEP ISOLATED THUNDER EVEN IN THIS NORTHWEST AREAS. WITH VERY STRONG DEEP-LAYER SHEAR OF 60+ KNOTS MOVING IN...HAVE INCREASING CONCERNS THAT AT LEAST MARGINALLY SEVERE HAIL COULD OCCUR IN SOUTHEAST COUNTIES...AND DESPITE SPC KEEPING THE OFFICIAL DAY2 SLIGHT RISK OUTLOOK JUST EAST OF THE CWA...AT LEAST FOR NOW...WILL GO AHEAD AND ADD THIS MENTION TO THE HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK AS THESE STRONG DYNAMICS ARE HARD TO IGNORE. DEPENDING ON HOW WIDESPREAD STORMS ARE...COULD FORESEE SOME FORTUNATE AREAS RECEIVING IN EXCESS OF ONE-HALF INCH OF RAIN BUT THIS WILL PROBABLY BE THE EXCEPTION. ALTHOUGH SOME SNOW OR RAIN/SNOW MIX COULD TRY DEVELOPING IN WESTERN NEBRASKA IN THE COLDER AIR WELL BEHIND THE FRONT...LATEST CONSENSUS IS THAT WINTRY PRECIP WED NIGHT SHOULD FOCUS AT LEAST 50 MILES WEST OF THE CWA...AND THUS WILL KEEP ANY SNOW MENTION OUT FOR NOW. THURSDAY...SPLIT THE DAY INTO 6-HOUR BLOCKS...WITH ALL PRECIP GONE BY THE AFTERNOON HOURS...AND POTENTIALLY EVEN GONE BY MID-MORNING IN MOST AREAS PER SOME OF THE LATEST TRENDS INCLUDING THE 00Z ECMWF...WHICH QUICKLY SHUTS OFF THE MID LEVEL LIFT/SATURATION FROM NORTHWEST-SOUTHEAST. LATER ADJUSTMENTS WILL BE NEEDED...BUT FOR NOW KEPT 20-40 POPS ACROSS MOST OF THE CWA IN THE MORNING FOR GENERAL LIGHT RAIN...WITH NO THUNDER MENTION AND STILL NO SNOW MENTION...ALTHOUGH SUPPOSE A FEW FLURRIES COULD SNEAK INTO FAR NORTHWEST ZONES JUST BEFORE PRECIP SHUTS OFF FOR GOOD GIVEN SURFACE TEMPS FORECAST TO DROP INTO THE MID 30S EARLY THURSDAY MORNING. OTHERWISE...EXPECT INCREASING SUNSHINE AS THE DAY WEARS ON...ALTHOUGH IT WILL REMAIN QUITE BREEZY WITH SUSTAINED NORTH WINDS AROUND 20 MPH WITH GUSTS TO AROUND 30 MPH. FOR HIGH TEMPS...RAW NAM VALUES ARE WELL INTO THE MID 50S ALL AREAS...BUT WAS NOT WILLING TO GO QUITE THIS WARM YET...AND THUS ONLY MADE MINOR ADJUSTMENTS TO PREVIOUS FORECAST WITH MOST NEB ZONES TOPPING OUT UPPER 40S AND KS LOWER 50S. THURS NIGHT...THIS LOOKS TO BE THE MOST UNEVENTFUL PERIOD OF THE NEXT 72 HOURS...AS AN EXPANSIVE SURFACE RIDGE AXIS SETTLES INTO THE REGION FROM THE NORTH...AND ANY LIGHT SNOW ACCUMULATIONS ASSOCIATED WITH TRAILING MID LEVEL SHORTWAVE ENERGY AND LOW LEVEL UPSLOPE FLOW SHOULD REMAIN NO CLOSER THAN THE NEB/CO/KS BORDER AREA. DESPITE A POTENTIAL INCREASE IN MID LEVEL CLOUDS...OPTED TO LOWER LOW TEMPS 2-3 DEGREES FROM PREVIOUS FCST AND POSSIBLY NOT ENOUGH...BUT AT LEAST GETTING ALL AREAS INTO THE SUB-FREEZING 26-32 RANGE. .LONG TERM...STARTING 12Z FRIDAY...THE LONGWAVE TROUGH ACROSS THE WEST COAST THIS MORNING WILL BE CENTERED OVER THE PLAINS ON FRIDAY...WITH SEVERAL EMBEDDED WEAK DISTURBANCES EXPECTED TO HAVE LITTLE IMPACT IN THE WAY OF CHANCES FOR PRECIP ACROSS THE LOCAL AREA. SOME DISCREPANCIES EVIDENT WITH THE HANDLING OF THIS TROUGH AS IT PUSHES EAST LATE IN THE WEEKEND...WITH THE EC QUICKLY BUILDING A RIDGE OVER THE INTERMOUNTAIN WEST RESULTING IN RISING HEIGHTS ACROSS THE PLAINS...IN RESPONSE TO THE LONGWAVE TROUGH INTERACTS WITH A TROPICAL DISTURBANCE OFF THE EASTERN SEABOARD...AND THE LATEST GFS DEPICTING A MORE ZONAL WEST TO NORTHWEST FLOW ACROSS THE REGION BY EARLY NEXT WEEK...AS THE AFOREMENTIONED TROPICAL DISTURBANCE INSTEAD TRACKS OUT INTO THE OPEN ATLANTIC. EITHER WAY...THIS APPEARS TO BE A DRY PATTERN FOR THE LOCAL AREA AS THERE ARE NO SIGNIFICANT FEATURES FORECAST TO IMPACT THE AREA IN THE DIVERGENT UPPER LEVEL FLOW PATTERNS DEPICTED AMONGST THE LONG TERM MODELS. THEREFORE...EXPECT DRY CONDITIONS...WITH CONTINUED UNSEASONABLY COOL TEMPERATURES...TO AT LEAST START THE EXTENDED PERIODS...WITH TEMPERATURES POSSIBLY WARMING CLOSER TO CLIMATOLOGY...WHILE REMAINING DRY...EARLY NEXT WEEK IF THE EC SOLUTION ENDS UP BEING CORRECT. HOWEVER...DUE TO THE UNCERTAINTY OF THE SYNOPTIC SCALE PATTERN EARLY NEXT WEEK...STUCK WITH ALLBLEND MODEL SOLUTION THIS MORNING...WITH NO NOTABLE TWEAKS TO SPEAK OF. && .PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 1243 AM CDT TUE OCT 23 2012/ AVIATION...06Z TAF. STRATUS CONTINUES TO ENCOMPASS A GOOD PORTION OF THE CENTRAL PLAINS AND CIGS ARE EXPECTED TO REMAIN LIFR THROUGH THE EARLY MORNING HOURS TUESDAY. IN PRESENCE OF LLVL MOISTURE AND MIXING ABOVE THE MOISTURE/CLOUD DECK...LOOK FOR INTERMITTENT DRIZZLE FOR AT LEAST THE FIRST PART OF THE NIGHT WITH VSBYS IN THE LIFR CATEGORY IN AREAS OF FG/BR. THE LIFR/IFR CONDITIONS WILL PERSIST INTO THE FIRST HALF OF THE DAY TUESDAY...WITH IMPROVEMENT BY MIDDAY...AS CLOUDS BEGIN TO SCATTER AND DRY AIR BEGINS TO ADVECT IN ACROSS THE REGION. WINDS OVERNIGHT WILL CONTINUE TO BE LIGHT AND VARIABLE...EVENTUALLY REACHING ABOUT 10 KTS OUT OF THE SOUTH TUESDAY AFTERNOON. && .GID WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... NE...DENSE FOG ADVISORY UNTIL 10 AM CDT THIS MORNING FOR NEZ039>041- 046>049-060>064-072>077-082>087. KS...DENSE FOG ADVISORY UNTIL 10 AM CDT THIS MORNING FOR KSZ005>007- 017>019. && $$ SHORT TERM...PFANNKUCH LONG TERM/AVIATION...ROSSI
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NWS NORTH PLATTE NE
410 AM CDT TUE OCT 23 2012 .DISCUSSION... PRIMARY FOCUS THROUGH THIS FORECAST PERIOD IS FOG AND TEMPERATURES TODAY...THEN RAIN/SNOW CHANCES FOCUSED ON WEDNESDAY NIGHT AND THURSDAY. BEYOND THAT...COLDER TEMPERATURES FOR THE LATTER HALF OF THE WEEK. WATER VAPOR IMAGERY THIS MORNING SHOWS A LONGWAVE TROUGH OVER THE EASTERN PACIFIC INTO THE WESTERN CONUS...WITH RIDGING ACROSS THE GREAT LAKES. A WEAK SHORTWAVE TROUGH WAS OBSERVED ACROSS THE NORTHERN PLAINS...WITH SUBSIDENCE ALOFT ACROSS NEBRASKA HELPING TO KEEP THE MID-LEVELS DRY THIS MORNING. SEVERAL OTHER SHORTWAVES OF NOTE WITHIN THE LONGWAVE TROUGH WERE ONE OVER NEVADA...WITH ANOTHER STILL OVER THE OCEAN. AT THE SURFACE...SOUTH TO SOUTHEAST FLOW WAS BRINGING IN LOW LEVEL MOISTURE AND WITH THE DRY AIR ALOFT...FOG HAS DEVELOPED ACROSS ALMOST ALL OF NEBRASKA BY 08Z. THIS HAS KEPT TEMPERATURES UP...WITH READINGS IN THE MID 40S TO LOW 50S. THE OTHER FEATURE TO NOTE IS LOW PRESSURE ON THE LEE SIDE OF THE ROCKIES. .SHORT TERM...TODAY THROUGH THURSDAY NIGHT ACCORDING TO THE RUC AND THE NAM...FOG SHOULD SLOWLY DISSIPATE FROM THE WEST...BUT PLACES OVER THE EASTERN PART OF THE FORECAST AREA...EAST OF HIGHWAY 83 COULD SEE THE FOG LINGER INTO THE EARLY AFTERNOON HOURS. THE FOG WILL HAVE A BIG IMPACT ON HIGH TEMPERATURES TODAY SO IF IT FAILS TO DISSIPATE BY 18Z OR 19Z...TEMPERATURES COULD BE UP TO 10 DEGREES TO WARM IN PLACES. DAY SHIFT WILL NEED TO MONITOR TRENDS IN CASE TEMPERATURE FORECAST NEEDS TO BE MODIFIED. 850MB TEMPERATURES WILL INCREASE TODAY /BETWEEN 15C AND 23C/ DUE TO WARM AIR ADVECTION AHEAD OF THE AREA OF LOW PRESSURE TO THE WEST. ASSUMING SKIES CLEAR...TEMPERATURES SHOULD WARM CONSIDERABLY...WITH LOW 80S POSSIBLE ACROSS SOUTHWEST NEBRASKA. THE SHORTWAVE TROUGH OVER NEVADA WILL LIFT INTO MONTANA TODAY...WHICH WILL GIVE THE FRONT TO THE WEST A BIT OF A PUSH EASTWARD. THE NAM PUSHES A DRYLINE ACROSS THE SANDHILLS THIS AFTERNOON...WHICH COULD DROP DEWPOINTS INTO THE LOW 30S. GOING SOUTH...DEWPOINTS WILL DROP INTO THE 30S AS WELL AS THE DRYLINE PROGRESSES EAST. THIS WILL PROMOTE DEEP MIXING TO NEAR 700MB. WINDS THROUGH THE MIXED LAYER WILL BE STRONGEST ACROSS NORTHWEST NEBRASKA...WHERE GUSTS TO 30 MPH LOOK POSSIBLE THIS AFTERNOON. GOING SOUTH...WINDS ALOFT DECREASE SO WINDY CONDITIONS ARE NOT EXPECTED. WITH THE TEMPERATURES EXPECTED TODAY...LOWEST RELATIVE HUMIDITY WILL BE ACROSS SOUTHWEST NEBRASKA...WITH VALUES DROPPING TO THE MID 20S WHERE WINDS WILL BE STRONG. AS IS FORECAST...CRITICAL FIRE WEATHER CONDITIONS WILL NOT BE MET...ALTHOUGH MARGINAL CONDITIONS WILL BE LIKELY IN A FEW LOCATIONS FOR AT LEAST A FEW HOURS TODAY. AGAIN...CLOUD COVER COULD HAMPER THIS FROM OCCURRING...SO WILL NEED TO MONITOR TRENDS FOR POTENTIAL FIRE WEATHER ISSUES TODAY. THE MONTANA WAVE LIFTS INTO CANADA TONIGHT...WITH A COLD FRONT TO THE WEST PROGRESSING SOUTHEAST ACROSS NEBRASKA TONIGHT. BY MID MORNING WEDNESDAY SHOULD BE THROUGH MOST OF THE FORECAST AREA. COULD AGAIN SEE SOME FOG WEDNESDAY MORNING...BUT THIS SHOULD BE CONFINED TO AREAS RIGHT ALONG AND BEHIND THE FRONT WHERE LOW LEVEL MOISTURE POOLS. A THE SHORTWAVE TROUGH WILL ALSO MOVE ONLAND TONIGHT...WHICH WILL THEN PROGRESS ACROSS UTAH AND INTO COLORADO ON WEDNESDAY. AS THIS IS ONGOING...A 700MB TROUGH WILL PASS ACROSS THE NORTHERN AND CENTRAL PLAINS WEDNESDAY AND WEDNESDAY NIGHT. MODELS ARE SHOWING GOOD FRONTOGENETICAL FORCING...WHILE THE LOCATION OF THE UPPER LEVEL JET STREAK PUTS NORTHWEST NEBRASKA IN AN AREA OF GOOD LARGE-SCALE LIFT. THE SIGNAL HAS BEEN QUITE CONSISTENT IN TIMING AND LOCATION OF THE BEST FORCING FROM THE DIFFERENT MODELS OVER THE PAST FEW DAYS SO CONFIDENCE HAS INCREASED IN GETTING PRECIPITATION ACROSS THE FORECAST AREA. IT MAY TAKE A BIT OF TIME TO SATURATE THE LOW LEVELS...SO ONLY BEGAN CHANCES FOR RAIN IN THE FAR NORTHERN PARTS OF SHERIDAN AND CHERRY COUNTIES WEDNESDAY MORNING AND SLOWLY EXPANDING SOUTH THROUGH THE AFTERNOON. WEDNESDAY EVENING LOOKS TO SEE THE BEST CHANCES FOR PRECIPITATION IN AREAS NORTHWEST OF AN IMPERIAL TO VALENTINE LINE...AND THOUGH DO HAVE RAIN CHANCES TO THE EAST...LOWERED CHANCES BEFORE MIDNIGHT AS TOO MUCH DRY AIR LOOKS TO EXIST IN THESE AREAS. THE PRECIPITATION AREA DOES SHIFT TO THE SOUTH AND EAST AFTER MIDNIGHT...BUT AS THE PRIMARY SHORTWAVE TROUGH EXITS THE AREA BY 12Z THURSDAY MORNING...LARGE-SCALE FORCING WILL DETERIORATE SO CHANCES HAVE LOWERED FOR THURSDAY. BY LATE AFTERNOON THURSDAY...EXPECT THE FORECAST AREA TO SEE PRIMARILY DRY CONDITIONS. THERE IS ANOTHER SHORTWAVE THAT WILL ROUND THE LONGWAVE TROUGH LATER THURSDAY AND THURSDAY NIGHT...BUT THE TREND CONTINUES TO GO SOUTH SO PRECIPITATION CHANCES LOOK TO STAY TO THE SOUTH. TEMPERATURE PROFILES CONTINUE TO SHOW THE PRECIPITATION TYPE BEGIN AS RAIN...BUT CHANGE OVER TO A RAIN/SNOW MIX WITH SNOW BECOMING THE DOMINANT TYPE ACROSS THE NORTHWEST AREAS AFTER MIDNIGHT WEDNESDAY NIGHT. HAVE RAIN OR SNOW IN THE FORECAST ACROSS THE ENTIRE AREA FOR THURSDAY MORNING AS THE PROFILES HUG 0C IN THE LOWEST LEVELS ABOVE THE SURFACE. DON/T EXPECT MUCH ACCUMULATION OF SNOW...WITH PRECIPITATION ACCUMULATIONS UP TO A THIRD OF AN INCH MAINLY NORTH OF INTERSTATE 80. .LONG TERM...FRIDAY THROUGH MONDAY COLD TEMPERATURES WILL BE THE HIGHLIGHT FOR THE WEEKEND AS HIGHS WILL BE HARD PRESSED TO MAKE IT OUT OF THE 30S AND 40S FOR FRIDAY AND SATURDAY. LOWS ALSO WILL BE QUITE COLD...ALTHOUGH THE 23.00Z MODEL SOLUTIONS ARE A BIT WARMER FOR BOTH FRIDAY AND SATURDAY NIGHTS WITH THE SURFACE HIGH NOW LOOKING TO STAY OFF TO THE EAST OF THE FORECAST AREA. LOWS SHOULD STILL EASILY DROP INTO THE 20S...WITH TEENS POSSIBLE FRIDAY NIGHT. THE TREND NOW LOOKS FOR WARMER CONDITIONS GOING INTO NEXT WEEK AS RIDGING BUILDS OVER THE WESTERN HALF OF THE COUNTRY. THIS WILL BRING MILD TEMPERATURES BACK INTO THE CENTRAL PLAINS WITH 850MB TEMPERATURES WARMING INTO THE TEENS AGAIN BY MONDAY...COMPARED TO READINGS BELOW 0C WHICH WILL BE EXPERIENCED FRIDAY AND SATURDAY. THE FORECAST IS DRY THROUGH THIS PERIOD AS THE LONGWAVE TROUGH WILL PUSH THE MOISTURE ACROSS THE PLAINS WELL TO THE SOUTHEAST. && .AVIATION... LIFR/IFR CIGS AND VSBY IMPROVE TO VFR FROM WEST TO EAST BETWEEN 15Z AND 18Z ALONG AND WEST OF HIGHWAY 83. EAST OF HIGHWAY 83...LIFR/IFR CIGS AND VIS IMPROVE TO IFR/MVFR CIGS AROUND 18Z AND THEN VFR BY 21Z. A COLD FRONT WILL DROP INTO THE FCST AREA TONIGHT WITH MVFR/IFR CIGS POSSIBLE AFTER 06Z TUESDAY NIGHT. && .FIRE WEATHER... POTENTIAL RED FLAG CONDITIONS WILL BE MONITORED ACROSS WRN NEB THIS AFTERNOON DEPENDING ON THE PROGRESS OF A CLEARING LINE FCST TO DEVELOP ACROSS THE PANHANDLE THIS MORNING. && .LBF WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...NONE. && $$ DISCUSSION...BROOKS AVIATION/FIRE WEATHER...CDC
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NWS BISMARCK ND
318 AM CDT TUE OCT 23 2012 .SHORT TERM...TODAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY... LATEST WATER VAPOR IMAGERY SHOWS A LONG FETCH OF MOIST SOUTHWEST FLOW WITH SEVERAL DISTURBANCES EJECTING OUT FROM AN UPPER LOW/LONG WAVE TROUGH ANCHORED ALONG THE WEST COAST. THE NEXT PLUME OF MOISTURE IS NOW EXPANDING OVER SOUTHEAST MONTANA AND THIS WILL CONTINUE MOVING NORTHEAST THROUGH THE DAY. LATEST REGIONAL RADAR SHOWS PERSISTENT RAIN IN THE NORTH CENTRAL UP TO THE NORTHERN BORDER WITH SNOW IN THE FAR NORTHWEST. FURTHER SOUTH THE PRECIPITATION WAS MORE RAGGED AND SCATTERED. A SURFACE LOW PRESSURE WILL MOVE FROM NORTHEAST WYOMING ACROSS NORTHERN SOUTH DAKOTA TODAY WITH AN INVERTED TROUGH REACHING INTO CENTRAL NORTH DAKOTA THIS AFTERNOON. THE NAM/GFS ARE IN GOOD AGREEMENT WITH FRONTOGENESIS INITIATING IN THE H85-H7 LAYER FROM AROUND GARRISON TO RUGBY AND INTO BOTTINEAU TODAY. THIS AREA COINCIDES NICELY WITH A MAXIMUM IN THE OMEGA/LIFT SIGNATURE PER GFS...BUT A LITTLE LESS ROBUST IN THE NAM. HOWEVER BOTH MODELS ALONG WITH THE LATEST HRRR AGREE THAT THIS WILL BE THE TARGET FOR HIGHEST POPS AND QPF. THUS WILL TAILOR THE NORTH CENTRAL WITH NUMEROUS SHOWERS AND THEN TAPER THE WORDING FURTHER SOUTH FROM SCATTERED TO ISOLATED. SOUTH CENTRAL NORTH DAKOTA WILL BE IN THE WARM SECTOR PORTION OF THE LOW TODAY WITH HIGHS REACHING THE MID 50S...AND MID 60S IN THE FAR SOUTHEAST. IT WILL REMAIN COOL IN THE NORTH AND WEST WITH HIGHS IN THE MID TO UPPER 40S. FOR TONIGHT INTO WEDNESDAY...WITH THE AFOREMENTIONED SURFACE LOW EXITING THE AREA THIS EVENING...OUR ATTENTION TURNS TO THE NEXT JET STREAK EJECTING INTO NORTH DAKOTA AFTER 06Z WEDNESDAY. THE NAM/GFS BOTH SHOW FRONTOGENESIS IN THE ANOTHER H85-H65 LAYER BEING INITIATED IN THE FAR SOUTH AND SOUTHEAST AFTER 06Z. THIS BECOMES THE FOCUS FOR MORE PRECIPITATION AFTER 06Z WEDNESDAY AND CONTINUING THROUGH THE DAY WEDNESDAY...WITH LIKELY POPS IN THE FAR SOUTHEAST AND ISOLATED TO SCATTERED IN THE SOUTH. THE ONLY THREAT FOR SNOW APPEARS DURING THE EARLY MORNING IN THE FAR SOUTHWEST WHERE ISOLATED SNOW SHOWERS MAY DEVELOP WITH COLDER AIR ALREADY IN PLACE. SOUNDINGS SUPPORT RAIN ELSEWHERE...ESPECIALLY WHERE THE POPS ARE IN THE LIKELY CATEGORY IN THE FAR SOUTHEAST. .LONG TERM...WEDNESDAY NIGHT THROUGH MONDAY. MODELS IN GOOD AGREEMENT WITH BROAD TROUGH OVER CENTRAL NORTH AMERICA THROUGH MOST OF THE PERIOD. CLOSED UPPER LOW CENTER MOVES TO HUDSON BAY BY 00Z SATURDAY WITH NORTHWEST FLOW SETTING UP OVER NORTHERN PLAINS AS MAIN TROUGH AXIS SHIFTS EAST. MAIN IMPACT ON OUR AREA WILL BE BELOW NORMAL TEMPERATURES WITH HIGHS GENERALLY IN THE 30S TO NEAR 40 ALONG SD BORDER AND LOWS IN THE 20S. OTHER THEN A LOW CHANCE OF PRECIP WEDNESDAY NIGHT ACROSS THE SOUTH AS UPPER WAVE ROTATES ACROSS THE REGION...MOSTLY DRY CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED UNTIL MONDAY WHEN A SYSTEM APPROACHES. && .AVIATION...AS OF 08Z TAF LOCATIONS GENERALLY IN IFR TO LIFR CATEGORY DUE TO LOW CEILINGS WITH EXCEPTION OF KJMS WHICH WAS STILL MVFR. EXPECT SHOWERS CONTINUING INTO THE AFTERNOON...ENDING FROM SOUTHWEST TO NORTHEAST. EXACT TIMING OF TRANSITION TO MVFR AND VFR APPEARS TO BE AROUND 18Z FOR KDIK AND AFTER 21Z FOR KISN...KMOT...KBIS AND KJMS. && .BIS WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... NONE. && $$ SHORT TERM...KS LONG TERM/AVIATION....JNS
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS CLEVELAND OH
720 AM EDT TUE OCT 23 2012 .SYNOPSIS... A FRONT WILL LINGER ACROSS LAKE ERIE THROUGH MID WEEK. NEXT COLD FRONT WILL PUSH THROUGH LATE FRIDAY. && .NEAR TERM /UNTIL 6 PM THIS EVENING/... TWEAKED THE TIMING OF THE SHOWERS THIS MORNING. ORIGINAL DISCUSSION... FRONTAL BOUNDARY LINGERING ACROSS THE CENTRAL AND LOWER GREAT LAKES. TWO SEPARATE WAVES WILL MOVE ALONG THE BOUNDARY TODAY. THE FIRST WAVE IS WITH THE CONVECTION THIS MORNING. EXPECT A BREAK BY LATE MORNING THEN A SECOND WAVE LATER THIS AFTERNOON. WHERE WILL THE SHOWERS SET UP. STILL DOUBTS IN MY MIND...BEST CHANCES WOULD BE THE LAKESHORE COUNTIES WITH DECREASING CHANCES THE FURTHER SOUTH YOU GO. EXPECT TEMPS TO REMAIN WELL ABOVE NORMAL WITH TEMPS IN THE LOWER TO MID 70S. IF GET SOME CLOUD BREAKS EARLY THIS AFTERNOON BEFORE SECOND WAVE COULD EVEN BE A LITTLE WARMER. && .SHORT TERM /6 PM THIS EVENING THROUGH FRIDAY NIGHT/... SECOND WAVE WILL EXIT AREA OVERNIGHT WITH A CHANCE OF A FEW LINGERING SHOWERS INTO WEDNESDAY MORNING. UPPER RIDGE BUILDS QUICKLY OVER THE AREA WEDNESDAY AND REMAINS IN PLACE TO THE END OF THE WORK WEEK. AS A RESULT MUCH ABOVE NORMAL TEMPERATURES WILL CONTINUE THROUGH THURSDAY. BUT ALL GOOD THINGS COME TO AN END. THE ECMWF IS COMING MORE IN LINE WITH THE GFS TIMING OF THE NEXT SYSTEM. MODELS PUSH FRONT INTO NW OH FRIDAY AND ACROSS MOST OF AREA FRIDAY NIGHT. && .LONG TERM /SATURDAY THROUGH MONDAY/... THIS PERIOD IS BECOMING A LITTLE MORE CLEAR BUT IT STILL HAS SOME DIFFERENCES. THE FRONT IS EAST OF THE AREA BY SATURDAY MORNING WITH COLD AIR FLOWING IN FROM MICHIGAN. BY SATURDAY EVENING THE LAKE AND 850 MB TEMPERATURE DIFFERENCE WILL BE NEAR 14C. THE THREAT OF SHOWERS WILL BE DECREASING FROM WEST TO EAST SATURDAY. HIGH PRESSURE WILL BE BUILDING IN SLOWLY FROM THE NORTHWEST SATURDAY INTO SUNDAY AND THAT WILL DECREASE ANY LAKE ENHANCED SHOWERS THAT TRY TO MOVE INTO NORTHWEST OHIO FROM LAKE MICHIGAN. HOWEVER...LAKE EFFECT SHOWERS WILL CONTINUE OVER THE EASTERN COUNTIES. ON MONDAY THE 00Z ECMWF HAS A MORE PRONOUNCED TROF OVER THE EASTERN LAKES. IF THIS OCCURS IT MAY KEEP THE THREAT OF PRECIPITATION GOING LONGER AND IT WILL BRING IN A LITTLE COLDER AIR...SO WE WILL HAVE TO CONTINUE TO MONITOR THE PRECIPITATION TYPE. AT THIS TIME STILL JUST FORECASTING RAIN. DIDN`T MAKE MUCH IN THE WAY OF CHANGES TO THE EXTENDED FOR TEMPERATURES...THEY WILL BE BELOW NORMAL. && .AVIATION /11Z TUESDAY THROUGH SATURDAY/... ONE SHORT WAVE WAS MOVING THROUGH THE AREA THIS MORNING AND CAUSING SOME SHOWERS. ANOTHER SHORT WAVE WILL MOVE THROUGH FOR THE AFTERNOON. SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS ARE OVER CENTRAL IL AND WEST CENTRAL INDIANA. THEY SEEM TO BE MOVING FASTER THAN ONE WOULD THINK BASED ON THE LOCATION OF THE SHORT WAVE. THE HRRR MODEL SEEMS TO HAVE A GOOD HANDLE ON THIS SO WENT WITH THAT TIMING. CONFIDENCE IS MODERATE ON HOW IT WILL ALL PLAY OUT WITH THE BEST CHANCES OVER NORTHWEST OHIO AND ALONG THE LAKESHORE. A STATIONARY FRONT JUST TO THE NORTH OF LAKE ERIE WILL HELP FOCUS THE PRECIPITATION. CONDITIONS WILL BE MAINLY VFR EXCEPT BRIEFLY MVFR OR LESS IN THE HEAVIER SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS. HOWEVER...SOME MVFR CEILINGS COULD DEVELOP IN THE HIGH MOISTURE NEAR LAKE ERIE. CONFIDENCE IS LOW. .OUTLOOK...NON VFR POSSIBLE IN SHOWERS AT TIMES FRIDAY EVENING THROUGH SATURDAY. && .MARINE... A BOUNDARY MAY TRY TO DRIFT INTO THE EASTERN PORTION OF LAKE ERIE LATER TODAY INTO WEDNESDAY. OTHER THAN THAT MAINLY A SOUTH TO SOUTHWEST FLOW THROUGH FRIDAY. CONDITIONS SHOULD NOT MEET SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY CRITERIA. THE ONLY THREAT ON THE LAKE THROUGH WEDNESDAY WILL BE A NEED FOR A SPECIAL MARINE WARNING BECAUSE OF THUNDERSTORMS AND THAT IS A SMALL CHANCE. A COLD FRONT WILL MOVE THROUGH FRIDAY INTO FRIDAY NIGHT AND NORTHERLY WINDS BEHIND IT MAY PROMPT A NEED FOR A SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY. && .CLE WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... OH...NONE. PA...NONE. MARINE...NONE. && $$ SYNOPSIS...DJB NEAR TERM...DJB SHORT TERM...DJB LONG TERM...KIELTYKA AVIATION...KIELTYKA MARINE...KIELTYKA
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION FOR SOUTHEAST SD/SOUTHWEST MN/NORTHWEST IA
NWS SIOUX FALLS SD
1254 PM CDT TUE OCT 23 2012 .DISCUSSION.../ISSUED AT 920 AM CDT/ DENSE FOG PERSISTING ACROSS NORTHEAST QUARTER OF THE FORECAST AREA LONGER THAN EARLIER ANTICIPATED. FOR NOW...HAVE EXTENDED DENSE FOG ADVISORY FOR SOUTHWEST MINNESOTA AND I-29 CORRIDOR FROM SIOUX FALLS NORTHWARD UNTIL 10 AM...THOUGH HRRR SUGGESTS LOW VISIBILITY MAY LAST EVEN LONGER THAN THAT...ESPECIALLY ALONG AND WEST/UPSLOPE OF BUFFALO RIDGE. WILL CONTINUE TO EVALUATE THAT OVER THE NEXT HOUR AND ADJUST AGAIN IF NECESSARY PRIOR TO 15Z. FOG/STRATUS WILL HOLD TEMPERATURES DOWN ACCORDINGLY...AND HAVE BEGUN TO TREND AFTERNOON READINGS LOWER ACROSS THE NORTHEAST CWA...THOUGH AGAIN...FURTHER ADJUSTMENTS MAY BE NECESSARY IF FOG PERSISTS LATER INTO THE MORNING. LEFT HIGHS IN THE 70S ALONE ACROSS THE SOUTHWEST CWA...AS MODELS STILL SHOW BOUNDARY AND ASSOCIATED SHIFT TO SOUTHWEST LOW LEVEL FLOW PUSHING INTO THAT AREA DURING THE AFTERNOON. THIS SHOULD ALLOW DECENT DRYING/MIXING IN AREAS WEST OF THE JAMES VALLEY. && .AVIATION.../FOR THE 18Z TAF ISSUANCE/ TOUGHEST CALL FOR THE 18Z TAF ISSUANCE IS SHORT TERM DISSIPATION OF THE WIDESPREAD IFR/MVFR STRATUS FIELD. STRONG INVERSION ON KOAX AND KABR MORNING RAOBS DO NOT LEND CONFIDENCE TO THE ABILITY TO MIX OUT THE LOWER CEILINGS THIS AFTERNOON...AND LIKELY WILL DEPEND GREATLY ON ADVECTION/MIXING ON EDGE TO RESULT IN CLEARING...WHICH IS DELAYED ON CURRENT SET BY SEVERAL HOURS OVER PREVIOUS FORECAST FOR KSUX/KFSD. IN FACT...CEILINGS MAY RETURN LOWER FOR A COUPLE HOURS EARLY THIS AFTERNOON AROUND KFSD WITH ADVECTION FROM SOUTH...BACK INTO IFR LEVELS. FRONTAL ZONE OUT ACROSS WESTERN SOUTH DAKOTA WILL PROGRESS EASTWARD WILL HAVE BEST DRYING SURGE JUST AHEAD...IMPACTING KHON BY MID AFTERNOON. FOLLOWING FRONTAL PASSAGE...LIKELY THAT SOME AREAS OF MVFR OR IFR CEILINGS WILL SPREAD BACK SOUTHWARD INTO KHON...AND ALSO DEVELOP FARTHER SOUTHEAST TOWARD KFSD/KSUX ALONG WITH INCREASED MOISTURE LEVELS. FOR NOW...HAVE NOT MENTIONED ANY PRECIPITATION... BUT POTENTIAL FOR SOME LIGHT DRIZZLE ONCE AGAIN TOMORROW MORNING FOR KFSD/KSUX AREAS. /CHAPMAN && .PREV DISCUSSION.../ISSUED AT 420 AM CDT/ BROAD SWATH OF STRATUS BLANKETING MUCH OF THE NORTHERN AND CENTRAL PLAINS REMAINS THE PRIMARY CONCERN FOR TODAY. MODELS HOLD ONTO THE LOW LEVEL MOISTURE THROUGH MUCH OF THE MORNING RESULTING IN THE WIDESPREAD LOW CLOUDS AND PATCHY DRIZZLE AND FOG WILL LIKELY STICK AROUND THROUGH MID TO LATE MORNING. SOUTHWESTERLY FLOW WILL BEGIN TO INCREASE ACROSS THE WEST LATER THIS MORNING WHICH SHOULD BEGIN MIXING DRIER AIR INTO THE LOW LEVELS WHICH SHOULD SCOUR OUT THE CLOUDS BY AFTERNOON. THE BIG QUESTION IS HOW QUICKLY THE CLEARING WILL WORK INTO OUR EASTERN HALF AND WHETHER OUR FAR NORTHEAST WILL SEE SIGNIFICANT CLEARING BY LATE AFTERNOON. THIS WILL LARGE IMPLICATIONS ON TEMPERATURE TRENDS...AS HEFTY WARM AIR ADVECTION WILL EASILY PLACE HIGH TEMPERATURES IN THE MID TO UPPER 70S IN THE WEST. DID KNOCK BACK HIGHS SLIGHTLY TO THE UPPER 60S IN OUR NORTHEAST GIVEN THE POTENTIAL TO BE CLOUDY FOR THE BETTER PART OF THE DAYLIGHT HOURS. THE MILDER TEMPERATURES WILL BE SHORT LIVED AS A LARGE UPPER LEVEL LOW TRACKS INTO THE SOUTHERN CANADIAN PRAIRIE PROVINCES BY WEDNESDAY AND DROPS A COLD FRONT THROUGH THE NORTHERN PLAINS. THE SURFACE FRONT DIGS THROUGH THE FORECAST AREA TUESDAY AFTERNOON AND TUESDAY NIGHT THEN STALLS JUST SOUTH OF THE FORECAST AREA WITH LITTLE IMPACT OUTSIDE OF SOME INCREASED CLOUD COVERAGE. ON WEDNESDAY...SURFACE LOW PRESSURE DEVELOPS IN EASTERN KANSAS AND PUSHES NORTHEAST INTO WESTERN IOWA LATE IN THE DAY. THE PRECISE TIMING OF THIS FEATURE AND THE POTENTIAL LIFTING OF THE WARM FRONT INTO OUR SOUTHEASTERN COUNTIES ARE STILL A BIT UNCERTAIN. HOWEVER...WITH INCREASED SHEAR AND NAM MUCAPE APPROACHING 2000 J/KG NEAR THE BOUNDARY...COULD SEE SOME THUNDERSTORM ACTIVITY IN ADDITION TO SHOWERS. A LARGE DETERRENT TO ANY SURFACED BASED/SEVERE CONVECTION WILL BE THE STRONG CAPPING IN PLACE IN THIS AREA. A SECOND AREA TO WATCH FOR POTENTIAL PRECIPITATION ON WEDNESDAY WILL BE ACROSS THE FAR WESTERN CWA...WITH STRONG 850 MB FRONTOGENESIS SETTING UP ACROSS CENTRAL AND NORTHEASTERN SOUTH DAKOTA. WILL KEEP CHANCEY POPS IN PLACE FOR THE DAY WITH LARGE UNCERTAINTY WITH THE BOUNDARY PLACEMENTS AND CONDITIONAL CONVECTIVE POTENTIAL. THE MID LEVEL TROUGH STARTS KICKING EASTWARD WEDNESDAY NIGHT WITH THE MID LEVEL FRONTOGENESIS SHIFTING INTO OUR CENTRAL CWA BY DAYBREAK THURSDAY. IT LOOKS LIKE A VERY STRONG POTENTIAL FOR SOME DECENT RAINFALL WEDNESDAY NIGHT AND EARLY THURSDAY AND HAVE BOOSTED POPS TO CATEGORICAL FOR THE CENTRAL AND EASTERN CWA. RAINFALL AMOUNTS OF AROUND A QUARTER TO HALF INCH LOOK REASONABLE AT THIS POINT. MUCH COOLER TEMPERATURES WILL ARRIVE DURING THIS TIME...WITH TEMPERATURES ON THURSDAY SHOWING LITTLE TO NO DIURNAL CHANGE OR EVEN SOME FALLING TEMPERATURES. HIGHS WILL BE IN THE 40S. IN THE EXTENDED...BROAD UPPER LEVEL TROUGHING SETTLES OVER THE CENTRAL STATES AND WILL KEEP COOL AND DRY CONDITIONS IN PLACE INTO THE END OF THE WEEK. MODELS ARE IN DECENT AGREEMENT WITH THIS DRY AND COLD PATTERN WHICH PLACE WITH HIGHS ONLY IN THE UPPER 30S TO MID 40S AND LOWS IN THE 20S. MODELS DO DIVERGE A BIT FOR THE WEEKEND WITH A MORE ZONAL MID LEVEL PATTERN IN THE GFS BRINGING A WAVE THROUGH THE MISSOURI VALLEY ON SUNDAY. MEANWHILE THE ECMWF ALSO HINTS AT A WAVE...BUT DROPS IT THROUGH SOUTHWEST MINNESOTA. DID ADD A SLIGHT CHANCE POP IN OUR NORTHEAST FOR SUNDAY. && .FSD WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... IA...NONE. MN...NONE. NE...NONE. SD...NONE. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION FOR SOUTHEAST SD/SOUTHWEST MN/NORTHWEST IA
NWS SIOUX FALLS SD
920 AM CDT TUE OCT 23 2012 .DISCUSSION.../ISSUED AT 920 AM CDT/ DENSE FOG PERSISTING ACROSS NORTHEAST QUARTER OF THE FORECAST AREA LONGER THAN EARLIER ANTICIPATED. FOR NOW...HAVE EXTENDED DENSE FOG ADVISORY FOR SOUTHWEST MINNESOTA AND I-29 CORRIDOR FROM SIOUX FALLS NORTHWARD UNTIL 10 AM...THOUGH HRRR SUGGESTS LOW VISIBILITY MAY LAST EVEN LONGER THAN THAT...ESPECIALLY ALONG AND WEST/UPSLOPE OF BUFFALO RIDGE. WILL CONTINUE TO EVALUATE THAT OVER THE NEXT HOUR AND ADJUST AGAIN IF NECESSARY PRIOR TO 15Z. FOG/STRATUS WILL HOLD TEMPERATURES DOWN ACCORDINGLY...AND HAVE BEGUN TO TREND AFTERNOON READINGS LOWER ACROSS THE NORTHEAST CWA...THOUGH AGAIN...FURTHER ADJUSTMENTS MAY BE NECESSARY IF FOG PERSISTS LATER INTO THE MORNING. LEFT HIGHS IN THE 70S ALONE ACROSS THE SOUTHWEST CWA...AS MODELS STILL SHOW BOUNDARY AND ASSOCIATED SHIFT TO SOUTHWEST LOW LEVEL FLOW PUSHING INTO THAT AREA DURING THE AFTERNOON. THIS SHOULD ALLOW DECENT DRYING/MIXING IN AREAS WEST OF THE JAMES VALLEY. && .AVIATION.../FOR THE 12Z TAF ISSUANCE/ AVIATION FORECAST FOR THE TAF SITES CONTINUE TO SHOW BELOW NORMAL CONFIDENCE IN THE DETAILS. OBSERVATION HAS DROPPED OUT AT KHON AND WEB CAMS DO NOT SHOW FOG HAS SET IN THERE. SATELLITE INDICATES LOWER CLOUDS HAVE WORKED INTO THE AREA...BUT NOT SURE AT WHAT HEIGHT. AS SUCH...HAVE ADDED NO AMENDMENT NOTE TO KHON TAF UNTIL OBSERVATION EQUIPMENT IS FIXED. WIDESPREAD DENSE FOG HAS SET IN EAST OF THE JAMES RIVER VALLEY IN EASTERN SOUTH DAKOTA INTO SOUTHWEST MINNESOTA AND NORTHWEST IOWA. FOG AND LOW CEILINGS WILL BE STUBBORN TO LEAVE AHEAD OF AN APPROACHING COLD FRONT...AND MOST LIKELY WILL NOT MIX OUT AT KSUX. KFSD WAS A TOUGH CALL BUT FOR NOW HAVE THEM BREAKING OUT IMMEDIATELY AHEAD OF THE FRONT. IF TRENDS CONTINUES...THE BREAK IN MVFR TO IFR CONDITIONS MAY NOT COME TILL AFTER 24/03Z WHEN THE COLD FRONT MOVES THROUGH. LIGHT NORTH FLOW TRANSITIONING TO NORTHEAST IS EXPECTED BEHIND THE FRONT. && .PREV DISCUSSION.../ISSUED AT 420 AM CDT/ BROAD SWATH OF STRATUS BLANKETING MUCH OF THE NORTHERN AND CENTRAL PLAINS REMAINS THE PRIMARY CONCERN FOR TODAY. MODELS HOLD ONTO THE LOW LEVEL MOISTURE THROUGH MUCH OF THE MORNING RESULTING IN THE WIDESPREAD LOW CLOUDS AND PATCHY DRIZZLE AND FOG WILL LIKELY STICK AROUND THROUGH MID TO LATE MORNING. SOUTHWESTERLY FLOW WILL BEGIN TO INCREASE ACROSS THE WEST LATER THIS MORNING WHICH SHOULD BEGIN MIXING DRIER AIR INTO THE LOW LEVELS WHICH SHOULD SCOUR OUT THE CLOUDS BY AFTERNOON. THE BIG QUESTION IS HOW QUICKLY THE CLEARING WILL WORK INTO OUR EASTERN HALF AND WHETHER OUR FAR NORTHEAST WILL SEE SIGNIFICANT CLEARING BY LATE AFTERNOON. THIS WILL LARGE IMPLICATIONS ON TEMPERATURE TRENDS...AS HEFTY WARM AIR ADVECTION WILL EASILY PLACE HIGH TEMPERATURES IN THE MID TO UPPER 70S IN THE WEST. DID KNOCK BACK HIGHS SLIGHTLY TO THE UPPER 60S IN OUR NORTHEAST GIVEN THE POTENTIAL TO BE CLOUDY FOR THE BETTER PART OF THE DAYLIGHT HOURS. THE MILDER TEMPERATURES WILL BE SHORT LIVED AS A LARGE UPPER LEVEL LOW TRACKS INTO THE SOUTHERN CANADIAN PRAIRIE PROVINCES BY WEDNESDAY AND DROPS A COLD FRONT THROUGH THE NORTHERN PLAINS. THE SURFACE FRONT DIGS THROUGH THE FORECAST AREA TUESDAY AFTERNOON AND TUESDAY NIGHT THEN STALLS JUST SOUTH OF THE FORECAST AREA WITH LITTLE IMPACT OUTSIDE OF SOME INCREASED CLOUD COVERAGE. ON WEDNESDAY...SURFACE LOW PRESSURE DEVELOPS IN EASTERN KANSAS AND PUSHES NORTHEAST INTO WESTERN IOWA LATE IN THE DAY. THE PRECISE TIMING OF THIS FEATURE AND THE POTENTIAL LIFTING OF THE WARM FRONT INTO OUR SOUTHEASTERN COUNTIES ARE STILL A BIT UNCERTAIN. HOWEVER...WITH INCREASED SHEAR AND NAM MUCAPE APPROACHING 2000 J/KG NEAR THE BOUNDARY...COULD SEE SOME THUNDERSTORM ACTIVITY IN ADDITION TO SHOWERS. A LARGE DETERRENT TO ANY SURFACED BASED/SEVERE CONVECTION WILL BE THE STRONG CAPPING IN PLACE IN THIS AREA. A SECOND AREA TO WATCH FOR POTENTIAL PRECIPITATION ON WEDNESDAY WILL BE ACROSS THE FAR WESTERN CWA...WITH STRONG 850 MB FRONTOGENESIS SETTING UP ACROSS CENTRAL AND NORTHEASTERN SOUTH DAKOTA. WILL KEEP CHANCEY POPS IN PLACE FOR THE DAY WITH LARGE UNCERTAINTY WITH THE BOUNDARY PLACEMENTS AND CONDITIONAL CONVECTIVE POTENTIAL. THE MID LEVEL TROUGH STARTS KICKING EASTWARD WEDNESDAY NIGHT WITH THE MID LEVEL FRONTOGENESIS SHIFTING INTO OUR CENTRAL CWA BY DAYBREAK THURSDAY. IT LOOKS LIKE A VERY STRONG POTENTIAL FOR SOME DECENT RAINFALL WEDNESDAY NIGHT AND EARLY THURSDAY AND HAVE BOOSTED POPS TO CATEGORICAL FOR THE CENTRAL AND EASTERN CWA. RAINFALL AMOUNTS OF AROUND A QUARTER TO HALF INCH LOOK REASONABLE AT THIS POINT. MUCH COOLER TEMPERATURES WILL ARRIVE DURING THIS TIME...WITH TEMPERATURES ON THURSDAY SHOWING LITTLE TO NO DIURNAL CHANGE OR EVEN SOME FALLING TEMPERATURES. HIGHS WILL BE IN THE 40S. IN THE EXTENDED...BROAD UPPER LEVEL TROUGHING SETTLES OVER THE CENTRAL STATES AND WILL KEEP COOL AND DRY CONDITIONS IN PLACE INTO THE END OF THE WEEK. MODELS ARE IN DECENT AGREEMENT WITH THIS DRY AND COLD PATTERN WHICH PLACE WITH HIGHS ONLY IN THE UPPER 30S TO MID 40S AND LOWS IN THE 20S. MODELS DO DIVERGE A BIT FOR THE WEEKEND WITH A MORE ZONAL MID LEVEL PATTERN IN THE GFS BRINGING A WAVE THROUGH THE MISSOURI VALLEY ON SUNDAY. MEANWHILE THE ECMWF ALSO HINTS AT A WAVE...BUT DROPS IT THROUGH SOUTHWEST MINNESOTA. DID ADD A SLIGHT CHANCE POP IN OUR NORTHEAST FOR SUNDAY. && .FSD WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... IA...NONE. MN...DENSE FOG ADVISORY UNTIL 10 AM CDT THIS MORNING FOR MNZ071-072- 080-081-089-090-097-098. NE...NONE. SD...DENSE FOG ADVISORY UNTIL 10 AM CDT THIS MORNING FOR SDZ040-056- 062. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION FOR SOUTHEAST SD/SOUTHWEST MN/NORTHWEST IA
NWS SIOUX FALLS SD
1110 PM CDT MON OCT 22 2012 .DISCUSSION.../ISSUED AT 1018 PM CDT/ FORECAST GENERALLY LOOKS IN GOOD SHAPE TONIGHT. EXPECT CLOUDY SKIES TO PERSIST THROUGH THE NIGHT...WITH THE CLOUD DECK LOWERING BY MORNING. AREAS OF DRIZZLE AND FOG SHOULD EXPAND LATER TONIGHT AS WELL. TRICKY FORECAST FOR TUESDAY. SOME OF THE NEWER GUIDANCE IS SUGGESTING CLOUDS WILL BE SLOWER TO ERODE THAN PREVIOUSLY FORECAST. THUS DELAYED CLEARING SOME AND EXTENDED THE DRIZZLE AND FOG INTO MID MORNING. WILL EVENTUALLY SEE CLEARING FROM WEST TO EAST THROUGH THE AFTERNOON...WITH EXACT TIMING HAVING BIG IMPLICATIONS ON HIGH TEMPERATURES. DECIDED TO LEAVE HIGH TEMPERATURE FORECAST AS IS FOR NOW. BUT LATEST NAM AND RAP WOULD SUGGEST THE SLOWER EROSION OF CLOUDS COULD KEEP HIGHS FIVE TO TEN DEGREES COOLER THAN CURRENT FORECAST ALONG AND EAST OF INTERSTATE 29. MEANWHILE MOST SREF MEMBERS ARE LESS AGGRESSIVE WITH THE COOLER TEMPERATURES. THUS WILL LET MIDNIGHT SHIFT EVALUATE FURTHER AND MAKE NECESSARY ADJUSTMENTS. /CHENARD && .AVIATION.../FOR THE 06Z TAF ISSUANCE/ AVIATION FORECAST FOR THE TAF SITES CONTINUE TO SHOW BELOW NORMAL CONFIDENCE IN THE DETAILS. CURRENTLY...CEILINGS ARE ALL OVER THE MAP IN REGARDS TO CATEGORY...RANGING ANYWHERE FROM VFR TO IFR. MOST OF THE IFR CEILINGS ARE BOTTLED UP IN PARTS OF SOUTHWEST MN. BUT ALONG THE I 29 CORRIDOR...MANY OF THE LOWER CLOUDS HAVE SCATTERED OUT CREATING VFR CONDITIONS...ONLY TO GO BACK TO MVFR IN THE JAMES RIVER VALLEY AND POINTS WESTWARD. IN GENERAL...A WEAK WIND SHIFT TO THE SOUTH WILL LIKELY EDGE NORTHWARD TO THE I 90 CORRIDOR BY DAYBREAK TUESDAY. PLENTY OF IFR AND LIFR CONDITIONS EXIST IN EASTERN NEBRASKA. THEREFORE CONTINUE TO BE WORRIED THAT A LOWERING OF CEILINGS AND VISIBILITIES WILL BE IN STORE FOR OUR AREA LATE TONIGHT AND EARLY TUESDAY WITH SOME LOCATIONS INTO THE IFR CATEGORY. ON TUESDAY...THERE WILL BE CLEARING BUT WITH WIND SPEEDS NOT OVERLY STRONG OUT OF THE SOUTH...THE CLEARING WILL LIKELY BE DELAYED UNTIL THE AFTERNOON FOR MANY AREAS. IN ADDITION...THE NEXT COLD FRONT ALSO LOOKS SLOWER SO BACKED OFF ON THE WIND SHIFT TO THE NORTHWEST SEVERAL HOURS. /MJF && .PREVIOUS DISCUSSION... PRIMARY FORECAST CONCERNS ARE DRIZZLE/FOG SCENARIO TONIGHT...PRECIP CHANCES MIDWEEK...THEN BELOW NORMAL TEMPERATURES INTO THE WEEKEND. TONIGHT...FORECASTER CONFIDENCE: MODERATE. A BROAD AREA OF LOW PRESSURE WILL DEVELOP OVER THE NRN PLAINS AHEAD OF A SEASONABLY STRONG UPPER LEVEL TROUGH MOVING THROUGH THE INTERMOUNTAIN WEST. ALTHOUGH LARGE SCALE ASCENT WILL BE RATHER WEAK OVERNIGHT...THE COMBINATION OF PLENTIFUL BOUNDARY LAYER MOISTURE /SPEC HUMIDITY AOA 8 G/KG/ AND WEAK LOW LEVEL LIFT IS EXPECTED TO PRODUCE AREAS OF FOG/DRIZZLE OVER PORTIONS OF THE AREA. NOT EXPECTING MUCH IN THE WAY OF QPF /MAYBE A COUPLE HUNDREDTHS/ HOWEVER DO BELIEVE A FEW AREAS ALONG AND EAST OF THE JAMES VALLEY WILL SEE MEASURABLE RAINFALL. FOG MAY ALSO BE A CONCERN...BUT DIFFICULT TO PINPOINT HOW DENSE IT MAY GET. FUTURE SHIFTS WILL HAVE MONITOR VSBY TRENDS. TUESDAY AND TUESDAY NIGHT...FORECAST CONFIDENCE: LOW TO MODERATE. RESIDUAL STRATUS/FOG/DRIZZLE IS LIKELY EARLY TUESDAY MORNING...BEFORE AN INCREASING S/SWLY LOW LEVEL FLOW GRADUALLY NUDGES THE STRATUS DECK NORTH/EAST OF THE FORECAST AREA. MODELS CAN STRUGGLE WITH THE EROSION/MOVEMENT OF STRATUS SO THERE IS SOME UNCERTAINTY HOW QUICKLY CLOUDS MAY ERODE. ATTM...MODEL CONSENSUS PUSHES HIGHER LOW LEVEL RH VALUES OUT BETWEEN 15-18Z TUE AND THIS SEEMS REASONABLE. WILL CONTINUE TO BANK ON SEEING AT LEAST PARTLY CLOUDY SKIES TUESDAY...WHICH WHEN COMBINED WITH H8 TEMPS +13 TO +18C RANGE SHOULD ALLOW FOR VERY MILD TEMPS IN THE 70S TO NEAR 80F. INCREASING CLOUDS ARE LIKELY TUESDAY NIGHT...BUT WILL MAINTAIN DRY CONDITIONS FOR NOW. WEDNESDAY THROUGH THURSDAY...FORECASTER CONFIDENCE: MODERATE TO HIGH. UPPER TROUGH WILL MOVE SLOWLY ACROSS THE REGION BEGINNING ON WEDNESDAY. STRONGEST UPPER LEVEL FORCING /Q-VECTOR CONVERGENCE AND FGEN/ LOOKS TO REMAIN PRIMARILY NORTH OF THE AREA DURING THE DAY ON WEDNESDAY...ALTHOUGH WILL MAINTAIN LOW POPS AS THERE IS SOME UNCERTAINTY REGARDING TIMING OF PRECIPITATION. THE BRUNT OF FORCING/SATURATION WILL AFFECT THE AREA ON WEDNESDAY NIGHT AND EARLY THURSDAY DUE TO A COMBINATION OF UPPER LEVEL DIVERGENCE AND A MODERATE MID-LEVEL FRONTOGENETIC ZONE. QPF AMOUNTS STILL A BIT TRICKY TO PIN DOWN AT THIS TIMEFRAME...BUT MODEL CONSENSUS INDICATES THAT 0.25"-0.50" IS POSSIBLE...WITH LOCALLY HIGHER AMOUNTS. FROPA IS PROGGED TO BE A BIT QUICKER IN 12Z SUITE OF MODELS...SO BEGAN TO TAPER PRECIP CHANCES SIGNIFICANTLY AFTER 18Z THURSDAY. TEMPS SHOULD BE NEAR NORMAL WED...COOLING ON THURSDAY BEHIND THE FRONT. .LONG TERM...THURSDAY NIGHT THROUGH MONDAY... SURFACE HIGH PRESSURE AND A COLD ARCTIC AIR AIRMASS WILL FILTER INTO THE REGION LATE IN THE WEEK...RESULTING IN BELOW NORMAL TEMPERATURES THROUGH THE REMAINDER OF THE LONG TERM PERIOD. ONLY REAL CHANCES FOR PRECIPITATION WILL BE ASSOCIATED WITH ANOTHER SERIES OF UPPER LEVEL DISTURBANCES WHICH WILL MOVE ACROSS THE REGION OVER LATE THIS WEEKEND. MF/KS && .FSD WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... IA...NONE. MN...NONE. NE...NONE. SD...NONE. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS SPOKANE WA
653 PM PDT Wed Oct 24 2012 .SYNOPSIS...A band of rain and mountain snow will move through the area today and tonight. The weather will generally be quiet on Thursday before the next weather system arrives Friday with additional storms for the weekend. More precipitation is expected into early next week. && .DISCUSSION... Evening update: The wave of moisture and associated stratiform precipitation has moved into the northern mountains and arcs back into the Idaho Panhandle and Palouse. There is a distinct mesoscale circulation beginning to bring a weak comma head to the stratiform band over northern Lincoln County/Southern Ferry/Stevens. This was well modeled per previous runs of the HRRR and should help to enhance an area of QPF over the Nrn mtns arnd 6z. As such, I have incr QPF amts slightly. In addition, we have made some changes to the winter weather advisory which includes removing the area south of Lake Chelan and starting the highlights for the northern and eastern mountains now. Satellite and CAMS confirms that pcpn has become more showery and very light in the southern Cascades with the passage of the shortwave trough axis but snow is beginning to accumulate on Loup Loup Pass. Radar is slowly filling in on the central Idaho Panhandle Mtns and CAMS frm Sherman Pass already show accumulating snows so went ahead and started the highlights now. Behind the stratiform pcpn, the upper-level cold is moving back in with several upstream vorticity maximums. While most guidance is dry, this is a low confidence fcst based on how steep lapse rates will become and potential for any of these features to stir things up. At this time, we will be watching one tracking through the Nrn Blues and lower ID Panhandle bringing the next round of showers arnd 3AM or slightly after. /sb && .AVIATION... 00Z TAFS: Another round of rain and mtn snow is currently moving through the region and will continue to moisten an already juicy boundary layer. Consequently, expect widespread mtn obscurations along the northern mtns this evening and overnight. All terminals are expected to lower to MVFR/IFR levels either with the onset of pcpn or after the rain ends and skies briefly clear. Confidence on a whole is low for all sites given a wide array of MOS solutions per each TAF site. /sb && .PRELIMINARY POINT TEMPS/POPS... Spokane 31 42 34 41 32 45 / 100 20 10 50 40 40 Coeur d`Alene 31 43 33 41 32 44 / 90 50 10 50 40 40 Pullman 29 41 32 40 33 48 / 70 40 10 60 40 40 Lewiston 34 47 35 45 37 52 / 80 30 10 60 30 30 Colville 33 45 29 44 31 47 / 100 50 10 50 40 40 Sandpoint 30 41 30 41 32 44 / 100 60 10 40 40 50 Kellogg 32 38 26 38 31 43 / 90 60 20 50 60 50 Moses Lake 28 47 34 45 33 49 / 0 10 10 40 20 30 Wenatchee 31 47 35 44 35 47 / 10 10 10 40 20 30 Omak 31 46 33 46 34 48 / 90 10 10 50 30 40 && .OTX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... ID...Winter Weather Advisory until 11 AM PDT Thursday for Central Panhandle Mountains-Northern Panhandle. WA...Winter Weather Advisory until 11 AM PDT Thursday for Northeast Mountains-Okanogan Highlands. Winter Weather Advisory until 11 PM PDT this evening for East Slopes Northern Cascades. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS LA CROSSE WI
1227 PM CDT TUE OCT 23 2012 .SHORT TERM...TODAY THROUGH THURSDAY 350 AM CDT TUE OCT 23 2012 AT 3 AM...A WARM FRONT EXTENDED FROM SIOUX CITY IOWA /KSUX/ TO MUSCATINE IOWA /KMUT/. THERE IS LITTLE WEATHER ASSOCIATED WITH THIS FRONT. MEANWHILE FURTHER NORTH SCATTERED SHOWERS AND ISOLATED THUNDERSTORMS WERE DEVELOPING ALONG A BAND OF 900 TO 800 MB FRONTOGENESIS ACROSS SOUTHEAST MINNESOTA. THE RUC SHOWS THAT THIS BAND OF FRONTOGENESIS LIFTS QUICKLY NORTHEAST OF THE INTERSTATE 90 CORRIDOR AND BY LATE MORNING IT EXTENDS FROM HUDSON WISCONSIN TO MILWAUKEE. THE MESO MODELS SEEM TO HAVE A FAIRLY GOOD HANDLE ON THIS...SO FOLLOWED THEM. FURTHER SOUTHEAST...A SHORT WAVE TROUGH WILL BE LIFTING NORTHEAST THROUGH THE MID MISSISSIPPI RIVER VALLEY INTO THE LOWER GREAT LAKES. THERE IS MODERATE 850 MB MOISTURE INTO PARTS OF OF NORTHEAST IOWA AND SOUTHWEST WISCONSIN THROUGHOUT THIS MORNING...SO KEPT A CHANCE OF SHOWERS AND ISOLATED THUNDERSTORMS IN THESE AREAS THROUGHOUT THIS MORNING. FOR THIS AFTERNOON...WEAK 300K ISENTROPIC LIFT CONTINUES NORTH OF THE WARM FRONT NORTH OF THE INTERSTATE 94 CORRIDOR. AS A RESULT...KEPT ISOLATED SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS IN THE FORECAST FOR THIS AREA. FOR TONIGHT...THE 23.00Z MODELS ARE IN GENERAL AGREEMENT THAT THERE WILL BE WEAK TO MODERATE 850 MOISTURE TRANSPORT INTO THE REGION. THE MESO MODELS /ARW...NMM...AND SPC WRF/ SUGGEST THAT THERE WILL BE SOME ISOLATED SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS...SO KEPT THE 20 PERCENT PROBABILITY OF RAIN ACROSS THE ENTIRE AREA. ON WEDNESDAY...THE MODELS ARE IN GENERAL AGREEMENT THAT A WARM AIR MASS BETWEEN 850 MB AND 675 MB WILL ADVECT NORTHWARD IN ADVANCE OF AN APPROACHING COLD FRONT. THIS CAP SHOULD GREATLY INHIBIT THE DEVELOPMENT OF PRECIPITATION AHEAD OF THE APPROACHING COLD FRONT FOR MUCH OF THE DAY...THUS WENT DRY IN THE MORNING...AND SLOWLY INCREASED THE PRECIPITATION CHANCES ACROSS NORTHEAST IOWA...SOUTHEAST MINNESOTA...AND WEST-CENTRAL AND NORTH-CENTRAL WISCONSIN. THINKING THAT THE STRONG CAP WILL LIMIT ANY SHOWER AND THUNDERSTORM DEVELOPMENT TO ALONG AND JUST AHEAD OF THE COLD FRONT. THE 0-6 KM BULK SHEAR IS FAVORABLE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF SUPERCELL THUNDERSTORM DEVELOPMENT. THE GFS GENERATES SOME LIGHT SHOWERS AHEAD OF THIS FRONT...THUS...ITS MLCAPES ARE RUNNING BETWEEN 1000 AND 1500 J/KG. MEANWHILE THE NAM/WRF IS DRY AND ALLOWS TEMPERATURES TO CLIMB TO AROUND 80. THE COMBINATION OF THESE TEMPERATURES AND MID 60 DEW POINTS /HIGHEST THIS LATE IN THE YEAR SINCE OCTOBER 26 2010/ WILL RESULT IN THE ML CAPES AROUND 2500 J/KG. INITIALLY THINKING THAT THE CONVECTION WILL START TO DEVELOP ALONG THE FRONT BETWEEN 24.19 AND 24.21Z AS ELEVATED CELLS AND THEN BECOME SURFACE BASED BETWEEN 24.21Z AND 25.00Z. THE NAM HAS A WEAK LOW ALONG THIS FRONT WHICH HELPS INCREASE THE 0-1KM BULK SHEAR WHICH MAY POSSIBLY RESULT IN ISOLATED TORNADOES ACROSS NORTH-CENTRAL IOWA AND SOUTH-CENTRAL AND SOUTHEAST MINNESOTA. OTHERWISE...THE MAIN SEVERE WEATHER THREATS WILL BE LARGE HAIL AND DAMAGING WIND DURING THE LATE AFTERNOON AND EARLY EVENING ACROSS NORTHEAST IOWA...SOUTHEAST MINNESOTA...AND WEST-CENTRAL WISCONSIN. ON THURSDAY...THE MODELS STILL DIFFER ON THE TIMING OF THE FRONT. THE GFS IS THE SLOWEST AND LINGER PRECIPITATION ACROSS THE ENTIRE AREA THROUGH THE DAY. MEANWHILE THE GEM IS THE FASTEST AND HAS THE AFTERNOON DRY. DUE TO THESE DIFFERENCES...DID NOT GET TOO FANCY WITH TRYING TO TIME THE PRECIPITATION OUT OF THE AREA. REGARDLESS...THE MOST NOTICEABLE FEATURE WILL BE THE RAPIDLY FALLING TEMPERATURES IN THE WAKE OF THE FRONT. .LONG TERM...THURSDAY NIGHT THROUGH MONDAY 350 AM CDT TUE OCT 23 2012 ON THURSDAY NIGHT...THE MODELS WERE IN GOOD CONSENSUS THAT THE PRECIPITATION WOULD BE ENDING ACROSS WESTERN WISCONSIN DURING THE EVENING. AS A RESULT...CONFINED THE PRECIPITATION CHANCES TO THAT TIME PERIOD. ON MONDAY...THE 23.00Z GFS WAS VERY SIMILAR WITH ITS 22.18Z RUN AT GENERATING SOME WARM AIR ADVECTION PRECIPITATION ACROSS THE AREA. MEANWHILE THE ECMWF CONTINUE TO SHOW THAT THIS PRECIPITATION WILL DRY UP AS IT HEADS INTO THE AREA. DUE TO THESE DIFFERENCES MENTIONED A SLIGHT CHANCE OF PRECIPITATION NORTH OF AN OELWEIN IOWA TO MEDFORD WISCONSIN LINE. THE PRECIPITATION HAS THE POTENTIAL OF BEING A MIX OF RAIN AND SNOW IN THE EARLY MORNING. HOWEVER SINCE IT WAS VERY UNCLEAR IT WAS EVEN GOING TO OCCUR...JUST OPTED TO GO WITH RAIN FOR NOW. && .AVIATION...THIS AFTERNOON THRU WEDNESDAY MORNING 1227 PM CDT TUE OCT 23 2012 IFR CLOUDS/BR/FG ASSOCIATED WITH A WARM AND VERY MOIST AIRMASS...AND A WARM FRONT...MOVING NORTH ACROSS THE UPPER MIDWEST LOOK TO PREVAIL ACROSS THE AREA THIS PERIOD. CIGS/VSBYS STRUGGLING TO IMPROVE ACROSS THE AREA AT MID-DAY AS THE WARM FRONT LIFTS SLOWLY NORTH INTO THE AREA AND SFC-850MB MOISTURE CONTINUES TO INCREASE. SOME IMPROVEMENT TO MVFR CIGS ACROSS NORTHERN IA BEHIND THE FRONT AT MID DAY. DID SPREAD SOME MVFR CIGS INTO BOTH KRST/KLSE LATER THIS AFTERNOON WITH THE FRONT EXPECTED TO LIFT NORTH OF I-90. HOWEVER...MORE LOWER END MVFR AND IFR CLOUD DECKS BEHIND THE FRONT OVER CENTRAL/SOUTHERN IA TO ADVECT NORTH TONIGHT...AND LOWER WITH DIURNAL COOLING. WITH FG/BR FAILING TO CLEAR THIS AFTERNOON...STAGE IS SET FOR IFR/LIFR VSBYS IN FOG TONIGHT AS THE LOW LEVEL MOISTURE CONTINUES TO INCREASE AND THE AIRMASS COOLS. CARRIED IFR/LIFR CIGS/VSBYS AT BOTH KRST/KLSE IN THE 05Z-15Z TIME-FRAME TONIGHT. AREA MAY END UP COVERED WITH A DENSE FOG ADVISORY FOR THIS TIME PERIOD. CONDITIONS LOOK SLOW TO IMPROVE WED WITH LITTLE CHANGE OF THE AIRMASS AND BROAD LOW LEVEL WARM ADVECTION/ASCENT OVER THE AREA...AHEAD OF A STRONG COLD FRONT TO MOVE INTO THE AREA WED NIGHT. && .ARX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... 350 AM CDT TUE OCT 23 2012 WI...NONE. MN...NONE. IA...NONE. && $$ SHORT TERM...BOYNE LONG TERM....BOYNE AVIATION.....RRS
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS LA CROSSE WI
631 AM CDT TUE OCT 23 2012 .SHORT TERM...TODAY THROUGH THURSDAY 350 AM CDT TUE OCT 23 2012 AT 3 AM...A WARM FRONT EXTENDED FROM SIOUX CITY IOWA /KSUX/ TO MUSCATINE IOWA /KMUT/. THERE IS LITTLE WEATHER ASSOCIATED WITH THIS FRONT. MEANWHILE FURTHER NORTH SCATTERED SHOWERS AND ISOLATED THUNDERSTORMS WERE DEVELOPING ALONG A BAND OF 900 TO 800 MB FRONTOGENESIS ACROSS SOUTHEAST MINNESOTA. THE RUC SHOWS THAT THIS BAND OF FRONTOGENESIS LIFTS QUICKLY NORTHEAST OF THE INTERSTATE 90 CORRIDOR AND BY LATE MORNING IT EXTENDS FROM HUDSON WISCONSIN TO MILWAUKEE. THE MESO MODELS SEEM TO HAVE A FAIRLY GOOD HANDLE ON THIS...SO FOLLOWED THEM. FURTHER SOUTHEAST...A SHORT WAVE TROUGH WILL BE LIFTING NORTHEAST THROUGH THE MID MISSISSIPPI RIVER VALLEY INTO THE LOWER GREAT LAKES. THERE IS MODERATE 850 MB MOISTURE INTO PARTS OF OF NORTHEAST IOWA AND SOUTHWEST WISCONSIN THROUGHOUT THIS MORNING...SO KEPT A CHANCE OF SHOWERS AND ISOLATED THUNDERSTORMS IN THESE AREAS THROUGHOUT THIS MORNING. FOR THIS AFTERNOON...WEAK 300K ISENTROPIC LIFT CONTINUES NORTH OF THE WARM FRONT NORTH OF THE INTERSTATE 94 CORRIDOR. AS A RESULT...KEPT ISOLATED SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS IN THE FORECAST FOR THIS AREA. FOR TONIGHT...THE 23.00Z MODELS ARE IN GENERAL AGREEMENT THAT THERE WILL BE WEAK TO MODERATE 850 MOISTURE TRANSPORT INTO THE REGION. THE MESO MODELS /ARW...NMM...AND SPC WRF/ SUGGEST THAT THERE WILL BE SOME ISOLATED SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS...SO KEPT THE 20 PERCENT PROBABILITY OF RAIN ACROSS THE ENTIRE AREA. ON WEDNESDAY...THE MODELS ARE IN GENERAL AGREEMENT THAT A WARM AIR MASS BETWEEN 850 MB AND 675 MB WILL ADVECT NORTHWARD IN ADVANCE OF AN APPROACHING COLD FRONT. THIS CAP SHOULD GREATLY INHIBIT THE DEVELOPMENT OF PRECIPITATION AHEAD OF THE APPROACHING COLD FRONT FOR MUCH OF THE DAY...THUS WENT DRY IN THE MORNING...AND SLOWLY INCREASED THE PRECIPITATION CHANCES ACROSS NORTHEAST IOWA...SOUTHEAST MINNESOTA...AND WEST-CENTRAL AND NORTH-CENTRAL WISCONSIN. THINKING THAT THE STRONG CAP WILL LIMIT ANY SHOWER AND THUNDERSTORM DEVELOPMENT TO ALONG AND JUST AHEAD OF THE COLD FRONT. THE 0-6 KM BULK SHEAR IS FAVORABLE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF SUPERCELL THUNDERSTORM DEVELOPMENT. THE GFS GENERATES SOME LIGHT SHOWERS AHEAD OF THIS FRONT...THUS...ITS MLCAPES ARE RUNNING BETWEEN 1000 AND 1500 J/KG. MEANWHILE THE NAM/WRF IS DRY AND ALLOWS TEMPERATURES TO CLIMB TO AROUND 80. THE COMBINATION OF THESE TEMPERATURES AND MID 60 DEW POINTS /HIGHEST THIS LATE IN THE YEAR SINCE OCTOBER 26 2010/ WILL RESULT IN THE ML CAPES AROUND 2500 J/KG. INITIALLY THINKING THAT THE CONVECTION WILL START TO DEVELOP ALONG THE FRONT BETWEEN 24.19 AND 24.21Z AS ELEVATED CELLS AND THEN BECOME SURFACE BASED BETWEEN 24.21Z AND 25.00Z. THE NAM HAS A WEAK LOW ALONG THIS FRONT WHICH HELPS INCREASE THE 0-1KM BULK SHEAR WHICH MAY POSSIBLY RESULT IN ISOLATED TORNADOES ACROSS NORTH-CENTRAL IOWA AND SOUTH-CENTRAL AND SOUTHEAST MINNESOTA. OTHERWISE...THE MAIN SEVERE WEATHER THREATS WILL BE LARGE HAIL AND DAMAGING WIND DURING THE LATE AFTERNOON AND EARLY EVENING ACROSS NORTHEAST IOWA...SOUTHEAST MINNESOTA...AND WEST-CENTRAL WISCONSIN. ON THURSDAY...THE MODELS STILL DIFFER ON THE TIMING OF THE FRONT. THE GFS IS THE SLOWEST AND LINGER PRECIPITATION ACROSS THE ENTIRE AREA THROUGH THE DAY. MEANWHILE THE GEM IS THE FASTEST AND HAS THE AFTERNOON DRY. DUE TO THESE DIFFERENCES...DID NOT GET TOO FANCY WITH TRYING TO TIME THE PRECIPITATION OUT OF THE AREA. REGARDLESS...THE MOST NOTICEABLE FEATURE WILL BE THE RAPIDLY FALLING TEMPERATURES IN THE WAKE OF THE FRONT. .LONG TERM...THURSDAY NIGHT THROUGH MONDAY 350 AM CDT TUE OCT 23 2012 ON THURSDAY NIGHT...THE MODELS WERE IN GOOD CONSENSUS THAT THE PRECIPITATION WOULD BE ENDING ACROSS WESTERN WISCONSIN DURING THE EVENING. AS A RESULT...CONFINED THE PRECIPITATION CHANCES TO THAT TIME PERIOD. ON MONDAY...THE 23.00Z GFS WAS VERY SIMILAR WITH ITS 22.18Z RUN AT GENERATING SOME WARM AIR ADVECTION PRECIPITATION ACROSS THE AREA. MEANWHILE THE ECMWF CONTINUE TO SHOW THAT THIS PRECIPITATION WILL DRY UP AS IT HEADS INTO THE AREA. DUE TO THESE DIFFERENCES MENTIONED A SLIGHT CHANCE OF PRECIPITATION NORTH OF AN OELWEIN IOWA TO MEDFORD WISCONSIN LINE. THE PRECIPITATION HAS THE POTENTIAL OF BEING A MIX OF RAIN AND SNOW IN THE EARLY MORNING. HOWEVER SINCE IT WAS VERY UNCLEAR IT WAS EVEN GOING TO OCCUR...JUST OPTED TO GO WITH RAIN FOR NOW. && .AVIATION...TODAY AND TONIGHT 630 AM CDT TUE OCT 23 2012 A WARM FRONT CURRENTLY DRAPED ACROSS CENTRAL IOWA WILL LIFT NORTHWARD TODAY. IFR CEILINGS/VISIBILITIES COMMON TO THE NORTH OF THE FRONT AT BOTH TAF SITES. EXPECT THESE CONDITIONS TO CONTINUE THROUGH MID MORNING...BEFORE CEILINGS AND VISIBILITIES IMPROVE. CEILING HEIGHTS ARE EXPECTED TO RISE INTO THE MVFER CATEGORY BETWEEN 14Z-16Z AND REMAIN THERE THROUGH THE REMAINDER OF THE TAF PERIOD. && .ARX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... 350 AM CDT TUE OCT 23 2012 WI...NONE. MN...NONE. IA...NONE. && $$ SHORT TERM...BOYNE LONG TERM...BOYNE AVIATION...RABERDING
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS LA CROSSE WI
351 AM CDT TUE OCT 23 2012 .SHORT TERM...TODAY THROUGH THURSDAY 350 AM CDT TUE OCT 23 2012 AT 3 AM...A WARM FRONT EXTENDED FROM SIOUX CITY IOWA /KSUX/ TO MUSCATINE IOWA /KMUT/. THERE IS LITTLE WEATHER ASSOCIATED WITH THIS FRONT. MEANWHILE FURTHER NORTH SCATTERED SHOWERS AND ISOLATED THUNDERSTORMS WERE DEVELOPING ALONG A BAND OF 900 TO 800 MB FRONTOGENESIS ACROSS SOUTHEAST MINNESOTA. THE RUC SHOWS THAT THIS BAND OF FRONTOGENESIS LIFTS QUICKLY NORTHEAST OF THE INTERSTATE 90 CORRIDOR AND BY LATE MORNING IT EXTENDS FROM HUDSON WISCONSIN TO MILWAUKEE. THE MESO MODELS SEEM TO HAVE A FAIRLY GOOD HANDLE ON THIS...SO FOLLOWED THEM. FURTHER SOUTHEAST...A SHORT WAVE TROUGH WILL BE LIFTING NORTHEAST THROUGH THE MID MISSISSIPPI RIVER VALLEY INTO THE LOWER GREAT LAKES. THERE IS MODERATE 850 MB MOISTURE INTO PARTS OF OF NORTHEAST IOWA AND SOUTHWEST WISCONSIN THROUGHOUT THIS MORNING...SO KEPT A CHANCE OF SHOWERS AND ISOLATED THUNDERSTORMS IN THESE AREAS THROUGHOUT THIS MORNING. FOR THIS AFTERNOON...WEAK 300K ISENTROPIC LIFT CONTINUES NORTH OF THE WARM FRONT NORTH OF THE INTERSTATE 94 CORRIDOR. AS A RESULT...KEPT ISOLATED SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS IN THE FORECAST FOR THIS AREA. FOR TONIGHT...THE 23.00Z MODELS ARE IN GENERAL AGREEMENT THAT THERE WILL BE WEAK TO MODERATE 850 MOISTURE TRANSPORT INTO THE REGION. THE MESO MODELS /ARW...NMM...AND SPC WRF/ SUGGEST THAT THERE WILL BE SOME ISOLATED SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS...SO KEPT THE 20 PERCENT PROBABILITY OF RAIN ACROSS THE ENTIRE AREA. ON WEDNESDAY...THE MODELS ARE IN GENERAL AGREEMENT THAT A WARM AIR MASS BETWEEN 850 MB AND 675 MB WILL ADVECT NORTHWARD IN ADVANCE OF AN APPROACHING COLD FRONT. THIS CAP SHOULD GREATLY INHIBIT THE DEVELOPMENT OF PRECIPITATION AHEAD OF THE APPROACHING COLD FRONT FOR MUCH OF THE DAY...THUS WENT DRY IN THE MORNING...AND SLOWLY INCREASED THE PRECIPITATION CHANCES ACROSS NORTHEAST IOWA...SOUTHEAST MINNESOTA...AND WEST-CENTRAL AND NORTH-CENTRAL WISCONSIN. THINKING THAT THE STRONG CAP WILL LIMIT ANY SHOWER AND THUNDERSTORM DEVELOPMENT TO ALONG AND JUST AHEAD OF THE COLD FRONT. THE 0-6 KM BULK SHEAR IS FAVORABLE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF SUPERCELL THUNDERSTORM DEVELOPMENT. THE GFS GENERATES SOME LIGHT SHOWERS AHEAD OF THIS FRONT...THUS...ITS MLCAPES ARE RUNNING BETWEEN 1000 AND 1500 J/KG. MEANWHILE THE NAM/WRF IS DRY AND ALLOWS TEMPERATURES TO CLIMB TO AROUND 80. THE COMBINATION OF THESE TEMPERATURES AND MID 60 DEW POINTS /HIGHEST THIS LATE IN THE YEAR SINCE OCTOBER 26 2010/ WILL RESULT IN THE ML CAPES AROUND 2500 J/KG. INITIALLY THINKING THAT THE CONVECTION WILL START TO DEVELOP ALONG THE FRONT BETWEEN 24.19 AND 24.21Z AS ELEVATED CELLS AND THEN BECOME SURFACE BASED BETWEEN 24.21Z AND 25.00Z. THE NAM HAS A WEAK LOW ALONG THIS FRONT WHICH HELPS INCREASE THE 0-1KM BULK SHEAR WHICH MAY POSSIBLY RESULT IN ISOLATED TORNADOES ACROSS NORTH-CENTRAL IOWA AND SOUTH-CENTRAL AND SOUTHEAST MINNESOTA. OTHERWISE...THE MAIN SEVERE WEATHER THREATS WILL BE LARGE HAIL AND DAMAGING WIND DURING THE LATE AFTERNOON AND EARLY EVENING ACROSS NORTHEAST IOWA...SOUTHEAST MINNESOTA...AND WEST-CENTRAL WISCONSIN. ON THURSDAY...THE MODELS STILL DIFFER ON THE TIMING OF THE FRONT. THE GFS IS THE SLOWEST AND LINGER PRECIPITATION ACROSS THE ENTIRE AREA THROUGH THE DAY. MEANWHILE THE GEM IS THE FASTEST AND HAS THE AFTERNOON DRY. DUE TO THESE DIFFERENCES...DID NOT GET TOO FANCY WITH TRYING TO TIME THE PRECIPITATION OUT OF THE AREA. REGARDLESS...THE MOST NOTICEABLE FEATURE WILL BE THE RAPIDLY FALLING TEMPERATURES IN THE WAKE OF THE FRONT. .LONG TERM...THURSDAY NIGHT THROUGH MONDAY 350 AM CDT TUE OCT 23 2012 ON THURSDAY NIGHT...THE MODELS WERE IN GOOD CONSENSUS THAT THE PRECIPITATION WOULD BE ENDING ACROSS WESTERN WISCONSIN DURING THE EVENING. AS A RESULT...CONFINED THE PRECIPITATION CHANCES TO THAT TIME PERIOD. ON MONDAY...THE 23.00Z GFS WAS VERY SIMILAR WITH ITS 22.18Z RUN AT GENERATING SOME WARM AIR ADVECTION PRECIPITATION ACROSS THE AREA. MEANWHILE THE ECMWF CONTINUE TO SHOW THAT THIS PRECIPITATION WILL DRY UP AS IT HEADS INTO THE AREA. DUE TO THESE DIFFERENCES MENTIONED A SLIGHT CHANCE OF PRECIPITATION NORTH OF AN OELWEIN IOWA TO MEDFORD WISCONSIN LINE. THE PRECIPITATION HAS THE POTENTIAL OF BEING A MIX OF RAIN AND SNOW IN THE EARLY MORNING. HOWEVER SINCE IT WAS VERY UNCLEAR IT WAS EVEN GOING TO OCCUR...JUST OPTED TO GO WITH RAIN FOR NOW. && .AVIATION...THROUGH 06Z WEDNESDAY 1139 PM CDT MON OCT 22 2012 THE SURFACE LOW HAS MOVE NORTH INTO WESTERN IOWA THIS EVENING AND THE TWO WARM FRONTS HAVE CONSOLIDATED INTO ONE AND IT EXTENDS FROM THE LOW ALONG THE I80 CORRIDOR. ISENTROPIC UP GLIDE OVER THE FRONT HAS SLOWLY BEEN BRINGING THE CEILINGS DOWN ACROSS THE AREA WITH IFR CONDITIONS ALREADY IN PLACE AT KRST. AS THE FRONT MOVES NORTH OVERNIGHT...EXPECT TO SEE THE IFR CONDITIONS MOVE SLOWLY NORTH AS WELL AND SPREAD INTO KLSE. SOME DRIZZLE OCCURRING NORTH OF THE WARM FRONT ALONG WITH SOME FOG AND EXPECT THESE WILL IMPACT THE TAF SITES AS WELL. WITH THE HIGHER ELEVATION AT KRST...EXPECT THAT THEY WILL GO DOWN TO LIFR CONDITIONS UNTIL THE WARM FRONT GOES THROUGH. THE VALLEY LOCATION AT KLSE SHOULD PROTECT IT A LITTLE MORE AND WHILE THE CEILINGS WILL GO IFR EXPECTING THE VISIBILITY TO STAY MVFR. ONCE THE WARM FRONT GOES THROUGH TUESDAY MORNING THE WINDS WILL SWING AROUND TO THE SOUTHEAST OR SOUTH AND INCREASE THE MIXING. THE DRIZZLE WILL END WITH THE PASSAGE OF THE FRONT AND EXPECT TO SEE IMPROVEMENTS IN BOTH THE VISIBILITY AND CEILINGS. THE VISIBILITY SHOULD GO UP TO VFR BY EARLY AFTERNOON BUT THE 23.00Z NAM HOLDS ON THE LOW LEVEL MOISTURE BEHIND THE FRONT. SO SIMILAR TO THE PREVIOUS FORECASTS...WILL TREND TOWARD A MORE PESSIMISTIC FORECAST BY KEEPING THE CEILINGS MVFR. && .ARX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... 350 AM CDT TUE OCT 23 2012 WI...NONE. MN...NONE. IA...NONE. && $$ SHORT TERM...BOYNE LONG TERM...BOYNE AVIATION...04
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS CHEYENNE WY
1212 PM MDT TUE OCT 23 2012 .UPDATE... AVIATION...18Z TAF ISSUANCE...FOG AND LOW CIGS HAVE LIFTED THIS MORNING...WITH GUSTY WEST TO SOUTHWEST WINDS THE MAIN CONCERN FOR TODAY. SE WYOMING TERMINALS WILL SEE GUSTS OF 30 OR 40 KNOTS WITH 20 TO 30 KTS ACROSS THE PANHANDLE AHEAD OF A COLD FRONT THAT WILL DROP SOUTH ACROSS THE AREA AFTER 21Z. WINDS WILL SHIFT TO THE NORTH AND THEN NORTHEAST BEHIND THE FRONT...AND SNOW WILL DEVELOP AT KRWL...UP THROUGH KDGW AND TO THE NORTHEAST AFTER 03Z OR SO AS THE NEXT STORM SYSTEM BEGINS TO IMPACT THE REGION. RJM && .PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 920 AM MDT TUE OCT 23 2012/ UPDATE... WENT AHEAD AND LET THE HIGH WIND WARNING EXPIRE THIS MORNING AS OBSERVED WINDS HAVE STAYED DOWN BELOW WARNING CRITERIA. THERE IS STILL A CHANCE FOR WINDS TO BECOME STRONG AS WE MIX OUT...BUT DO NOT THINK WE WILL HIT HIGH WIND WARNING CRITERIA ANY MORE TODAY. STILL FAIRLY DENSE FOG OUT IN THE PANHANDLE AND WILL CONTINUE THE SPS WE HAVE GOING THROUGH NOON. FOG MAY BURN OFF EARLIER THAN THAT...BUT FOR NOW...WILL GO FOR NOON. DEFINITELY SOME QUESTIONS ON THE UPCOMING WINTER EVENT THAT WE WILL NEED TO WORK OUT FOR THE AFTERNOON PACKAGE. WAITING FOR THE 12Z MODEL RUNS TO MAKE ANY DECISIONS ON HIGHLIGHTS. CLAYCOMB PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 623 AM MDT TUE OCT 23 2012/ SHORT TERM...TODAY THROUGH THURSDAY... LOTS OF FORECAST CONCERNS OVER THE SHORT TERM. WINDS HAVE BEEN APPROACHING HIGH WIND CRITERIA IN THE ARLINGTON AREA OVER THE PAST FEW HOURS...BUT HAVE GENERALLY REMAINED BELOW 50MPH. THE GFS SHOWS 700MB 50-60 KTS TO THE WEST OF THE LARAMIE RANGE THROUGH 12Z BEFORE DECREASING TO 45 KTS BY 18Z. BELIEVE THAT THE LACK OF MIXING IS KEEPING WIND GUSTS BELOW 50 KTS DESPITE THE FAVORABLE SFC PRESSURE PATTERN AND STRONG WINDS JUST OFF THE SFC. WILL KEEP THE HIGH WIND WARNING GOING THROUGH THE MORNING BUT CONDITIONS ARE CURRENTLY LOOKING MARGINAL FOR WIDESPREAD HIGH WINDS OUTSIDE OF ARLINGTON. THE SFC LOW CURRENTLY OVER NORTHERN WYOMING IS PROGGED TO SHIFT EASTWARD INTO WESTERN SOUTH DAKOTA BY MIDDAY. THIS WILL CAUSE LLVL FLOW TO GO MORE WESTERLY...BUT STILL EXPECT BREEZY- TO-WINDY CONDITIONS TO CONTINUE ALONG AND WEST OF THE LARAMIE RANGE WITH 700MB FLOW AT THE AFOREMENTIONED 30-40 KTS. LOW CLOUDS AND FOG HAVE DEVELOPED OVER THE WESTERN NEBRASKA PANHANDLE EARLY THIS MORNING. THE HRRR MODEL SHOWS LIFR CONDITIONS PERSISTING THROUGH AROUND 15Z. SOME LOCATIONS ACROSS THE SOUTHERN PANHANDLE HAVE REPORTED DENSE FOG. CURRENTLY HAVE AN SPS OUT TO COVER THE DENSE FOG THREAT BUT MAY NEED TO CONSIDER AN ADVISORY IF THE CONDITIONS PERSIST. WATER VAPOR IMAGERY SHOWS THE STRONG UPPER LEVEL TROUGH CURRENTLY OVER THE WEST COAST WITH THE MOISTURE STREAMING ACROSS WESTERN WY. THIS TROUGH WILL PROGRESS EASTWARD OVER THE COURSE OF THE DAY WITH THE MOISTURE AND LIFT PRODUCING A SLIGHT CHANCE OF SHOWERS OVER THE WESTERN ZONES BY AFTERNOON. THE MAIN FORECAST CHALLENGE OVER THE SHORT TERM INVOLVES THE POTENTIAL MAJOR WINTER STORM EVENT BEGINNING ON WEDNESDAY. THE MODELS ARE IN AGREEMENT IN SHOWING THE LARGE SCALE TROUGH AXIS BEING LOCATED OVER UTAH AND IDAHO ON WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON. A 125 KT UPPER LEVEL JET IS SITUATED OVER WYOMING ON WEDNESDAY. A SW-NE ORIENTED MIDLEVEL FRONTOGENESIS LINE DEVELOPS FROM RAWLINS TO DOUGLAS BY MIDDAY WEDNESDAY. SNOW BECOMES LIKELY TO THE WEST OF THE LARAMIE RANGE ON WEDNESDAY MORNING WITH 700MB TEMPS AROUND -4C. A STRONG SHORTWAVE IN THE TROUGH IS FORECASTED TO MOVE OVER COLORADO ON WEDNESDAY NIGHT. INCREASING LARGE SCALE LIFT AND UPPER LEVEL DIVERGENCE WILL CAUSE WIDESPREAD SNOW TO DEVELOP MAINLY AFTER 00Z THURS OVER THE PLAINS. IT IS THE 00Z-12Z PERIOD THAT SNOWFALL RATES WILL BE HIGHEST IN SOUTHEAST WYOMING WITH EXCELLENT LARGE SCALE UPWARD MOTION AND DEEP LAYERED SATURATION. THE SHORTWAVE QUICKLY PROGRESSES EASTWARD INTO THE CENTRAL PLAINS ON THURS MORNING WITH SNOWFALL RATES COMING DOWN SUBSTANTIALLY. THURS WILL BE QUITE COLD FOR LATE OCTOBER WITH LLVL UPSLOPE AND 700MB TEMPS AROUND -10C. WITH A LACK OF LARGE SCALE FORCING ON THURS...LIGHT SNOW SHOWERS WILL LIKELY BE CONFINED TO THE MTNS AND FAVORED UPSLOPE AREAS ALONG THE LARAMIE RANGE. WITH REGARD TO WINTER WEATHER HIGHLIGHTS...DECIDED TO ISSUE A WINTER STORM WATCH FOR AREAS ALONG THE LARAMIE RANGE AND THE SIERRA MADRE AND SNOWY RANGES. HAVE THE WATCH CONTINUING THROUGH THE 00Z FRI AS LIGHT SNOW WILL LIKELY CONTINUE THROUGH THURS AFTN OVER THE HIGHER ELEVATIONS. FUTURE SHIFTS CAN DECIDE IF THE HIGHLIGHTS SHOULD BE ENDED OVER LOWER ELEVATIONS AFTER THE SNOWFALL RATES COME DOWN ON THURS MORNING AS THE MODELS ARE SHOWING. SNOWFALL ACCUMULATIONS WILL LIKELY BE ON THE LOW END OF WARNING CRITERIA WITH THIS EVENT. WINDS WILL NOT BE MUCH OF A CONCERN WITH THIS SYSTEM...HOWEVER OCCASIONAL GUSTS TO 35 MPH WILL BE POSSIBLE AS THE COLD FRONT MOVES ACROSS THE PLAINS ON WED EVENING. MUCH WEAKER WINDS CWA-WIDE ON THURS AS THE SFC HIGH PRESSURE SETTLES OVER THE PLAINS. LONG TERM...THURSDAY NIGHT THROUGH TUESDAY... LATEST MEDIUM RANGE MODEL OUTPUT OFFER FAIRLY SIMILAR SOLUTIONS THROUGH THE WEEKEND WITH SOME DIVERGENCE NOTED EARLY NEXT WEEK. INITIALLY...A TRAILING SHORTWAVE WILL ROUND THE BASE OF THE BROAD TROUGH FROM NRN UTAH INTO COLORADO THURSDAY NIGHT. MEANWHILE...UPSLOPE FLOW WILL PERSIST IN THE LLVLS PARTICULARLY FOR LOCATIONS NEAREST THE LARAMIE RANGE. SO...WOULD EXPECT ANOTHER BOUT OF LIGHT SNOW ON THURSDAY NIGHT ADDING ANOTHER INCH OR TWO TO THE THE SNOWFALL TOTALS. THE SHORTWAVE WILL ACCELERATE EAST OUT ONTO THE PLAINS FOR FRIDAY...LEAVING NORTHWEST FLOW TO PREVAIL ACROSS THE CWFA. THERE MAY BE SOME LIGHT SNOW OR FLURRIES CONTINUING MAINLY FOR OROGRAPHIC AREAS ON FRIDAY MORNING...WITH A GRADUAL DRYING TREND DURING THE AFTERNOON. TEMPERATURES WILL CONTINUE TO BE COLD ON FRIDAY WITH H7 TEMPERATURES REMAINING AROUND -10C. THIS WILL KEEP HIGH TEMPERATURES IN THE 30S ACROSS THE AREA. FRANKLY WITH SNOW ON THE GROUND WOULD NOT BE AT ALL SURPRISED TO ONLY SEE 20S AT SOME AREAS ON FRIDAY. ON SATURDAY...THE LATEST GFS TRACKING ANOTHER SHORTWAVE INTO THE AREA IN NORTHWEST FLOW. THE ECMWF/UKMET/GEM/GFES DO NOT SUPPORT SUCH A SOLUTION...SO HAVE CONSIDER IT TO BE THE OUTLIER AND HAVE DISCOUNTED. AS SUCH A DRY DAY IS IN STORE ON SATURDAY WITH TEMPERATURES THAT WILL CLIMB INTO THE 30S AND 40S. WINDS WILL INCREASE FOR AREAS ALONG AND WEST OF THE LARAMIE RANGE AS LLVL GRADIENT TIGHTENS. SO EVEN THOUGH TEMPERATURES WILL BE SLIGHTLY WARMER...THE WINDS WILL MAKE IT FEEL MUCH COOLER IN THESE AREAS. NORTHWEST FLOW WILL CONTINUE ON SUNDAY. BUT THE ECMWF IS SHOWING THE EARLY SIGNS OF ANTICYCLONIC FLOW DEVELOPING OVER THE AREA BY LATE SUNDAY. COMPARATIVELY THE GFS MAINTAINS NORTHWEST FLOW OVR THE AREA AS A RESULT OF A STRONGER TROUGH OVER WRN CANADA. THE GEM/UKMET SOLUTIONS OVER A REASONABLE COMPROMISE BETWEEN THE GFS/ECMWF. IN ANY CASE...EXPECT CONDITIONS TO REMAIN DRY WITH TEMPERATURES MODERATING BACK INTO THE 50S AND 60S FOR THE SUNDAY THROUGH TUESDAY TIMEFRAME. FIRE WEATHER... A WINDY START TO THE DAY FOR AREAS WEST ALONG AND WEST OF THE LARAMIE RANGE TODAY...AS GUSTS OF 40 TO 50 MPH HAVE BEEN COMMON. THESE WINDS WILL CONTINUE THROUGH MUCH OF THE DAY BEFORE RELAXING THIS EVENING AND OVERNIGHT. MEANWHILE...FOGGY CONDITIONS ACROSS THE WESTERN PANHANDLE WILL PERSIST THROUGH MID/LATE MORNING BEFORE LIFTING. ONE MORE WARM DAY IS IN STORE TODAY WITH HIGH TEMPERATURES THAT WILL REACH THE 50S WEST OF THE LARAMIE RANGE AND 60S AND 70S OUT ON THE EASTERN PLAINS. BIG CHANGES ARE ON THE WAY TOMORROW HOWEVER...AS A COLD FRONT BEGINS TO PUSH THROUGH THE AREA. PRECIPITATION WILL TRANSITION FROM RAIN TO SNOW THROUGH THE DAY AS THE FRONT PROGRESSES SOUTH. PRECIPITATION WILL TURN TO ALL SNOW FOR WEDNESDAY NIGHT AND THURSDAY. SIGNIFICANT ACCUMULATING SNOW IS LOOKING INCREASINGLY POSSIBLE. MUCH COLDER AIR WILL FILTER IN FOR THURSDAY AND FRIDAY AS WELL...WITH HIGHS ONLY CLIMBING INTO THE 20S AND 30S. && .CYS WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... WY...WINTER STORM WATCH FROM 6 AM WEDNESDAY TO 6 PM THURSDAY FOR WYZ103-WYZ105-WYZ110-WYZ112-WYZ114. WINTER STORM WATCH FROM 6 PM WEDNESDAY TO 6 PM THURSDAY FOR WYZ106-WYZ115-WYZ116-WYZ117-WYZ118. NE...NONE. && $$ SHORT TERM/FIRE WEATHER...FINCH LONG TERM...HAHN
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS CHEYENNE WY
920 AM MDT TUE OCT 23 2012 .UPDATE... WENT AHEAD AND LET THE HIGH WIND WARNING EXPIRE THIS MORNING AS OBSERVED WINDS HAVE STAYED DOWN BELOW WARNING CRITERIA. THERE IS STILL A CHANCE FOR WINDS TO BECOME STRONG AS WE MIX OUT...BUT DO NOT THINK WE WILL HIT HIGH WIND WARNING CRITERIA ANY MORE TODAY. STILL FAIRLY DENSE FOG OUT IN THE PANHANDLE AND WILL CONTINUE THE SPS WE HAVE GOING THROUGH NOON. FOG MAY BURN OFF EARLIER THAN THAT...BUT FOR NOW...WILL GO FOR NOON. DEFINITELY SOME QUESTIONS ON THE UPCOMING WINTER EVENT THAT WE WILL NEED TO WORK OUT FOR THE AFTERNOON PACKAGE. WAITING FOR THE 12Z MODEL RUNS TO MAKE ANY DECISIONS ON HIGHLIGHTS. CLAYCOMB && .PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 623 AM MDT TUE OCT 23 2012/ SHORT TERM...TODAY THROUGH THURSDAY... LOTS OF FORECAST CONCERNS OVER THE SHORT TERM. WINDS HAVE BEEN APPROACHING HIGH WIND CRITERIA IN THE ARLINGTON AREA OVER THE PAST FEW HOURS...BUT HAVE GENERALLY REMAINED BELOW 50MPH. THE GFS SHOWS 700MB 50-60 KTS TO THE WEST OF THE LARAMIE RANGE THROUGH 12Z BEFORE DECREASING TO 45 KTS BY 18Z. BELIEVE THAT THE LACK OF MIXING IS KEEPING WIND GUSTS BELOW 50 KTS DESPITE THE FAVORABLE SFC PRESSURE PATTERN AND STRONG WINDS JUST OFF THE SFC. WILL KEEP THE HIGH WIND WARNING GOING THROUGH THE MORNING BUT CONDITIONS ARE CURRENTLY LOOKING MARGINAL FOR WIDESPREAD HIGH WINDS OUTSIDE OF ARLINGTON. THE SFC LOW CURRENTLY OVER NORTHERN WYOMING IS PROGGED TO SHIFT EASTWARD INTO WESTERN SOUTH DAKOTA BY MIDDAY. THIS WILL CAUSE LLVL FLOW TO GO MORE WESTERLY...BUT STILL EXPECT BREEZY- TO-WINDY CONDITIONS TO CONTINUE ALONG AND WEST OF THE LARAMIE RANGE WITH 700MB FLOW AT THE AFOREMENTIONED 30-40 KTS. LOW CLOUDS AND FOG HAVE DEVELOPED OVER THE WESTERN NEBRASKA PANHANDLE EARLY THIS MORNING. THE HRRR MODEL SHOWS LIFR CONDITIONS PERSISTING THROUGH AROUND 15Z. SOME LOCATIONS ACROSS THE SOUTHERN PANHANDLE HAVE REPORTED DENSE FOG. CURRENTLY HAVE AN SPS OUT TO COVER THE DENSE FOG THREAT BUT MAY NEED TO CONSIDER AN ADVISORY IF THE CONDITIONS PERSIST. WATER VAPOR IMAGERY SHOWS THE STRONG UPPER LEVEL TROUGH CURRENTLY OVER THE WEST COAST WITH THE MOISTURE STREAMING ACROSS WESTERN WY. THIS TROUGH WILL PROGRESS EASTWARD OVER THE COURSE OF THE DAY WITH THE MOISTURE AND LIFT PRODUCING A SLIGHT CHANCE OF SHOWERS OVER THE WESTERN ZONES BY AFTERNOON. THE MAIN FORECAST CHALLENGE OVER THE SHORT TERM INVOLVES THE POTENTIAL MAJOR WINTER STORM EVENT BEGINNING ON WEDNESDAY. THE MODELS ARE IN AGREEMENT IN SHOWING THE LARGE SCALE TROUGH AXIS BEING LOCATED OVER UTAH AND IDAHO ON WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON. A 125 KT UPPER LEVEL JET IS SITUATED OVER WYOMING ON WEDNESDAY. A SW-NE ORIENTED MIDLEVEL FRONTOGENESIS LINE DEVELOPS FROM RAWLINS TO DOUGLAS BY MIDDAY WEDNESDAY. SNOW BECOMES LIKELY TO THE WEST OF THE LARAMIE RANGE ON WEDNESDAY MORNING WITH 700MB TEMPS AROUND -4C. A STRONG SHORTWAVE IN THE TROUGH IS FORECASTED TO MOVE OVER COLORADO ON WEDNESDAY NIGHT. INCREASING LARGE SCALE LIFT AND UPPER LEVEL DIVERGENCE WILL CAUSE WIDESPREAD SNOW TO DEVELOP MAINLY AFTER 00Z THURS OVER THE PLAINS. IT IS THE 00Z-12Z PERIOD THAT SNOWFALL RATES WILL BE HIGHEST IN SOUTHEAST WYOMING WITH EXCELLENT LARGE SCALE UPWARD MOTION AND DEEP LAYERED SATURATION. THE SHORTWAVE QUICKLY PROGRESSES EASTWARD INTO THE CENTRAL PLAINS ON THURS MORNING WITH SNOWFALL RATES COMING DOWN SUBSTANTIALLY. THURS WILL BE QUITE COLD FOR LATE OCTOBER WITH LLVL UPSLOPE AND 700MB TEMPS AROUND -10C. WITH A LACK OF LARGE SCALE FORCING ON THURS...LIGHT SNOW SHOWERS WILL LIKELY BE CONFINED TO THE MTNS AND FAVORED UPSLOPE AREAS ALONG THE LARAMIE RANGE. WITH REGARD TO WINTER WEATHER HIGHLIGHTS...DECIDED TO ISSUE A WINTER STORM WATCH FOR AREAS ALONG THE LARAMIE RANGE AND THE SIERRA MADRE AND SNOWY RANGES. HAVE THE WATCH CONTINUING THROUGH THE 00Z FRI AS LIGHT SNOW WILL LIKELY CONTINUE THROUGH THURS AFTN OVER THE HIGHER ELEVATIONS. FUTURE SHIFTS CAN DECIDE IF THE HIGHLIGHTS SHOULD BE ENDED OVER LOWER ELEVATIONS AFTER THE SNOWFALL RATES COME DOWN ON THURS MORNING AS THE MODELS ARE SHOWING. SNOWFALL ACCUMULATIONS WILL LIKELY BE ON THE LOW END OF WARNING CRITERIA WITH THIS EVENT. WINDS WILL NOT BE MUCH OF A CONCERN WITH THIS SYSTEM...HOWEVER OCCASIONAL GUSTS TO 35 MPH WILL BE POSSIBLE AS THE COLD FRONT MOVES ACROSS THE PLAINS ON WED EVENING. MUCH WEAKER WINDS CWA-WIDE ON THURS AS THE SFC HIGH PRESSURE SETTLES OVER THE PLAINS. LONG TERM...THURSDAY NIGHT THROUGH TUESDAY... LATEST MEDIUM RANGE MODEL OUTPUT OFFER FAIRLY SIMILAR SOLUTIONS THROUGH THE WEEKEND WITH SOME DIVERGENCE NOTED EARLY NEXT WEEK. INITIALLY...A TRAILING SHORTWAVE WILL ROUND THE BASE OF THE BROAD TROUGH FROM NRN UTAH INTO COLORADO THURSDAY NIGHT. MEANWHILE...UPSLOPE FLOW WILL PERSIST IN THE LLVLS PARTICULARLY FOR LOCATIONS NEAREST THE LARAMIE RANGE. SO...WOULD EXPECT ANOTHER BOUT OF LIGHT SNOW ON THURSDAY NIGHT ADDING ANOTHER INCH OR TWO TO THE THE SNOWFALL TOTALS. THE SHORTWAVE WILL ACCELERATE EAST OUT ONTO THE PLAINS FOR FRIDAY...LEAVING NORTHWEST FLOW TO PREVAIL ACROSS THE CWFA. THERE MAY BE SOME LIGHT SNOW OR FLURRIES CONTINUING MAINLY FOR OROGRAPHIC AREAS ON FRIDAY MORNING...WITH A GRADUAL DRYING TREND DURING THE AFTERNOON. TEMPERATURES WILL CONTINUE TO BE COLD ON FRIDAY WITH H7 TEMPERATURES REMAINING AROUND -10C. THIS WILL KEEP HIGH TEMPERATURES IN THE 30S ACROSS THE AREA. FRANKLY WITH SNOW ON THE GROUND WOULD NOT BE AT ALL SURPRISED TO ONLY SEE 20S AT SOME AREAS ON FRIDAY. ON SATURDAY...THE LATEST GFS TRACKING ANOTHER SHORTWAVE INTO THE AREA IN NORTHWEST FLOW. THE ECMWF/UKMET/GEM/GFES DO NOT SUPPORT SUCH A SOLUTION...SO HAVE CONSIDER IT TO BE THE OUTLIER AND HAVE DISCOUNTED. AS SUCH A DRY DAY IS IN STORE ON SATURDAY WITH TEMPERATURES THAT WILL CLIMB INTO THE 30S AND 40S. WINDS WILL INCREASE FOR AREAS ALONG AND WEST OF THE LARAMIE RANGE AS LLVL GRADIENT TIGHTENS. SO EVEN THOUGH TEMPERATURES WILL BE SLIGHTLY WARMER...THE WINDS WILL MAKE IT FEEL MUCH COOLER IN THESE AREAS. NORTHWEST FLOW WILL CONTINUE ON SUNDAY. BUT THE ECMWF IS SHOWING THE EARLY SIGNS OF ANTICYLONIC FLOW DEVELOPING OVER THE AREA BY LATE SUNDAY. COMPARATIVELY THE GFS MAINTAINS NORTHWEST FLOW OVR THE AREA AS A RESULT OF A STRONGER TROUGH OVER WRN CANADA. THE GEM/UKMET SOLUTIONS OVER A REASONABLE COMPROMISE BETWEEN THE GFS/ECMWF. IN ANY CASE...EXPECT CONDITIONS TO REMAIN DRY WITH TEMPERATURES MODERATING BACK INTO THE 50S AND 60S FOR THE SUNDAY THROUGH TUESDAY TIMEFRAME. AVIATION...12Z TAF ISSUANCE... MAIN AVIATION CONCERN WILL BE THE FOG...SOME OF WHICH HAS BEEN LOCALLY DENSE THAT HAS DEVELOPED ACROSS THE WESTERN NEBRASKA AIRFIELDS THIS MORNING. THESE LOW CIGS WILL HANG ON UNTIL AROUND 15 OR 16Z BEFORE LIFTING. SE WYOMING TERMINALS WILL HAVE GUSTY WINDS TO CONTEND WITH BY LATE THIS MORNING AND MORE SO DURING THE AFTERNOON TIMEFRAME. EXPECT TO SEE THESE GUSTS APPROACH 30 OR 40 KNOTS THROUGH THIS PERIOD. SNOW WILL DEVELOP AT KRWL AFTER 03Z OR SO...AS THE NEXT STORM SYSTEM BEGINS TO IMPACT THE REGION. FIRE WEATHER... A WINDY START TO THE DAY FOR AREAS WEST ALONG AND WEST OF THE LARAMIE RANGE TODAY...AS GUSTS OF 40 TO 50 MPH HAVE BEEN COMMON. THESE WINDS WILL CONTINUE THROUGH MUCH OF THE DAY BEFORE RELAXING THIS EVENING AND OVERNIGHT. MEANWHILE...FOGGY CONDITIONS ACROSS THE WESTERN PANHANDLE WILL PERSIST THROUGH MID/LATE MORNING BEFORE LIFTING. ONE MORE WARM DAY IS IN STORE TODAY WITH HIGH TEMPERATURES THAT WILL REACH THE 50S WEST OF THE LARAMIE RANGE AND 60S AND 70S OUT ON THE EASTERN PLAINS. BIG CHANGES ARE ON THE WAY TOMORROW HOWEVER...AS A COLD FRONT BEGINS TO PUSH THROUGH THE AREA. PRECIPITATION WILL TRANSITION FROM RAIN TO SNOW THROUGH THE DAY AS THE FRONT PROGRESSES SOUTH. PRECIPITATION WILL TURN TO ALL SNOW FOR WEDNESDAY NIGHT AND THURSDAY. SIGNIFICANT ACCUMULATING SNOW IS LOOKING INCREASINGLY POSSIBLE. MUCH COLDER AIR WILL FILTER IN FOR THURSDAY AND FRIDAY AS WELL...WITH HIGHS ONLY CLIMBING INTO THE 20S AND 30S. && .CYS WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... WY...WINTER STORM WATCH FROM 6 AM WEDNESDAY TO 6 PM THURSDAY FOR WYZ103-WYZ105-WYZ110-WYZ112-WYZ114. WINTER STORM WATCH FROM 6 PM WEDNESDAY TO 6 PM THURSDAY FOR WYZ106-WYZ115-WYZ116-WYZ117-WYZ118. NE...NONE. && $$ SHORT TERM/FIRE WEATHER...FINCH LONG TERM/AVIATION...HAHN
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS CHEYENNE WY
623 AM MDT TUE OCT 23 2012 .SHORT TERM...TODAY THROUGH THURSDAY... LOTS OF FORECAST CONCERNS OVER THE SHORT TERM. WINDS HAVE BEEN APPROACHING HIGH WIND CRITERIA IN THE ARLINGTON AREA OVER THE PAST FEW HOURS...BUT HAVE GENERALLY REMAINED BELOW 50MPH. THE GFS SHOWS 700MB 50-60 KTS TO THE WEST OF THE LARAMIE RANGE THROUGH 12Z BEFORE DECREASING TO 45 KTS BY 18Z. BELIEVE THAT THE LACK OF MIXING IS KEEPING WIND GUSTS BELOW 50 KTS DESPITE THE FAVORABLE SFC PRESSURE PATTERN AND STRONG WINDS JUST OFF THE SFC. WILL KEEP THE HIGH WIND WARNING GOING THROUGH THE MORNING BUT CONDITIONS ARE CURRENTLY LOOKING MARGINAL FOR WIDESPREAD HIGH WINDS OUTSIDE OF ARLINGTON. THE SFC LOW CURRENTLY OVER NORTHERN WYOMING IS PROGGED TO SHIFT EASTWARD INTO WESTERN SOUTH DAKOTA BY MIDDAY. THIS WILL CAUSE LLVL FLOW TO GO MORE WESTERLY...BUT STILL EXPECT BREEZY- TO-WINDY CONDITIONS TO CONTINUE ALONG AND WEST OF THE LARAMIE RANGE WITH 700MB FLOW AT THE AFOREMENTIONED 30-40 KTS. LOW CLOUDS AND FOG HAVE DEVELOPED OVER THE WESTERN NEBRASKA PANHANDLE EARLY THIS MORNING. THE HRRR MODEL SHOWS LIFR CONDITIONS PERSISTING THROUGH AROUND 15Z. SOME LOCATIONS ACROSS THE SOUTHERN PANHANDLE HAVE REPORTED DENSE FOG. CURRENTLY HAVE AN SPS OUT TO COVER THE DENSE FOG THREAT BUT MAY NEED TO CONSIDER AN ADVISORY IF THE CONDITIONS PERSIST. WATER VAPOR IMAGERY SHOWS THE STRONG UPPER LEVEL TROUGH CURRENTLY OVER THE WEST COAST WITH THE MOISTURE STREAMING ACROSS WESTERN WY. THIS TROUGH WILL PROGRESS EASTWARD OVER THE COURSE OF THE DAY WITH THE MOISTURE AND LIFT PRODUCING A SLIGHT CHANCE OF SHOWERS OVER THE WESTERN ZONES BY AFTERNOON. THE MAIN FORECAST CHALLENGE OVER THE SHORT TERM INVOLVES THE POTENTIAL MAJOR WINTER STORM EVENT BEGINNING ON WEDNESDAY. THE MODELS ARE IN AGREEMENT IN SHOWING THE LARGE SCALE TROUGH AXIS BEING LOCATED OVER UTAH AND IDAHO ON WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON. A 125 KT UPPER LEVEL JET IS SITUATED OVER WYOMING ON WEDNESDAY. A SW-NE ORIENTED MIDLEVEL FRONTOGENESIS LINE DEVELOPS FROM RAWLINS TO DOUGLAS BY MIDDAY WEDNESDAY. SNOW BECOMES LIKELY TO THE WEST OF THE LARAMIE RANGE ON WEDNESDAY MORNING WITH 700MB TEMPS AROUND -4C. A STRONG SHORTWAVE IN THE TROUGH IS FORECASTED TO MOVE OVER COLORADO ON WEDNESDAY NIGHT. INCREASING LARGE SCALE LIFT AND UPPER LEVEL DIVERGENCE WILL CAUSE WIDESPREAD SNOW TO DEVELOP MAINLY AFTER 00Z THURS OVER THE PLAINS. IT IS THE 00Z-12Z PERIOD THAT SNOWFALL RATES WILL BE HIGHEST IN SOUTHEAST WYOMING WITH EXCELLENT LARGE SCALE UPWARD MOTION AND DEEP LAYERED SATURATION. THE SHORTWAVE QUICKLY PROGRESSES EASTWARD INTO THE CENTRAL PLAINS ON THURS MORNING WITH SNOWFALL RATES COMING DOWN SUBSTANTIALLY. THURS WILL BE QUITE COLD FOR LATE OCTOBER WITH LLVL UPSLOPE AND 700MB TEMPS AROUND -10C. WITH A LACK OF LARGE SCALE FORCING ON THURS...LIGHT SNOW SHOWERS WILL LIKELY BE CONFINED TO THE MTNS AND FAVORED UPSLOPE AREAS ALONG THE LARAMIE RANGE. WITH REGARD TO WINTER WEATHER HIGHLIGHTS...DECIDED TO ISSUE A WINTER STORM WATCH FOR AREAS ALONG THE LARAMIE RANGE AND THE SIERRA MADRE AND SNOWY RANGES. HAVE THE WATCH CONTINUING THROUGH THE 00Z FRI AS LIGHT SNOW WILL LIKELY CONTINUE THROUGH THURS AFTN OVER THE HIGHER ELEVATIONS. FUTURE SHIFTS CAN DECIDE IF THE HIGHLIGHTS SHOULD BE ENDED OVER LOWER ELEVATIONS AFTER THE SNOWFALL RATES COME DOWN ON THURS MORNING AS THE MODELS ARE SHOWING. SNOWFALL ACCUMULATIONS WILL LIKELY BE ON THE LOW END OF WARNING CRITERIA WITH THIS EVENT. WINDS WILL NOT BE MUCH OF A CONCERN WITH THIS SYSTEM...HOWEVER OCCASIONAL GUSTS TO 35 MPH WILL BE POSSIBLE AS THE COLD FRONT MOVES ACROSS THE PLAINS ON WED EVENING. MUCH WEAKER WINDS CWA-WIDE ON THURS AS THE SFC HIGH PRESSURE SETTLES OVER THE PLAINS. .LONG TERM...THURSDAY NIGHT THROUGH TUESDAY... LATEST MEDIUM RANGE MODEL OUTPUT OFFER FAIRLY SIMILAR SOLUTIONS THROUGH THE WEEKEND WITH SOME DIVERGENCE NOTED EARLY NEXT WEEK. INITIALLY...A TRAILING SHORTWAVE WILL ROUND THE BASE OF THE BROAD TROUGH FROM NRN UTAH INTO COLORADO THURSDAY NIGHT. MEANWHILE...UPSLOPE FLOW WILL PERSIST IN THE LLVLS PARTICULARLY FOR LOCATIONS NEAREST THE LARAMIE RANGE. SO...WOULD EXPECT ANOTHER BOUT OF LIGHT SNOW ON THURSDAY NIGHT ADDING ANOTHER INCH OR TWO TO THE THE SNOWFALL TOTALS. THE SHORTWAVE WILL ACCELERATE EAST OUT ONTO THE PLAINS FOR FRIDAY...LEAVING NORTHWEST FLOW TO PREVAIL ACROSS THE CWFA. THERE MAY BE SOME LIGHT SNOW OR FLURRIES CONTINUING MAINLY FOR OROGRAPHIC AREAS ON FRIDAY MORNING...WITH A GRADUAL DRYING TREND DURING THE AFTERNOON. TEMPERATURES WILL CONTINUE TO BE COLD ON FRIDAY WITH H7 TEMPERATURES REMAINING AROUND -10C. THIS WILL KEEP HIGH TEMPERATURES IN THE 30S ACROSS THE AREA. FRANKLY WITH SNOW ON THE GROUND WOULD NOT BE AT ALL SURPRISED TO ONLY SEE 20S AT SOME AREAS ON FRIDAY. ON SATURDAY...THE LATEST GFS TRACKING ANOTHER SHORTWAVE INTO THE AREA IN NORTHWEST FLOW. THE ECMWF/UKMET/GEM/GFES DO NOT SUPPORT SUCH A SOLUTION...SO HAVE CONSIDER IT TO BE THE OUTLIER AND HAVE DISCOUNTED. AS SUCH A DRY DAY IS IN STORE ON SATURDAY WITH TEMPERATURES THAT WILL CLIMB INTO THE 30S AND 40S. WINDS WILL INCREASE FOR AREAS ALONG AND WEST OF THE LARAMIE RANGE AS LLVL GRADIENT TIGHTENS. SO EVEN THOUGH TEMPERATURES WILL BE SLIGHTLY WARMER...THE WINDS WILL MAKE IT FEEL MUCH COOLER IN THESE AREAS. NORTHWEST FLOW WILL CONTINUE ON SUNDAY. BUT THE ECMWF IS SHOWING THE EARLY SIGNS OF ANTICYLONIC FLOW DEVELOPING OVER THE AREA BY LATE SUNDAY. COMPARATIVELY THE GFS MAINTAINS NORTHWEST FLOW OVR THE AREA AS A RESULT OF A STRONGER TROUGH OVER WRN CANADA. THE GEM/UKMET SOLUTIONS OVER A REASONABLE COMPROMISE BETWEEN THE GFS/ECMWF. IN ANY CASE...EXPECT CONDITIONS TO REMAIN DRY WITH TEMPERATURES MODERATING BACK INTO THE 50S AND 60S FOR THE SUNDAY THROUGH TUESDAY TIMEFRAME. && .AVIATION...12Z TAF ISSUANCE... MAIN AVIATION CONCERN WILL BE THE FOG...SOME OF WHICH HAS BEEN LOCALLY DENSE THAT HAS DEVELOPED ACROSS THE WESTERN NEBRASKA AIRFIELDS THIS MORNING. THESE LOW CIGS WILL HANG ON UNTIL AROUND 15 OR 16Z BEFORE LIFTING. SE WYOMING TERMINALS WILL HAVE GUSTY WINDS TO CONTEND WITH BY LATE THIS MORNING AND MORE SO DURING THE AFTERNOON TIMEFRAME. EXPECT TO SEE THESE GUSTS APPROACH 30 OR 40 KNOTS THROUGH THIS PERIOD. SNOW WILL DEVELOP AT KRWL AFTER 03Z OR SO...AS THE NEXT STORM SYSTEM BEGINS TO IMPACT THE REGION. && .FIRE WEATHER... A WINDY START TO THE DAY FOR AREAS WEST ALONG AND WEST OF THE LARAMIE RANGE TODAY...AS GUSTS OF 40 TO 50 MPH HAVE BEEN COMMON. THESE WINDS WILL CONTINUE THROUGH MUCH OF THE DAY BEFORE RELAXING THIS EVENING AND OVERNIGHT. MEANWHILE...FOGGY CONDITIONS ACROSS THE WESTERN PANHANDLE WILL PERSIST THROUGH MID/LATE MORNING BEFORE LIFTING. ONE MORE WARM DAY IS IN STORE TODAY WITH HIGH TEMPERATURES THAT WILL REACH THE 50S WEST OF THE LARAMIE RANGE AND 60S AND 70S OUT ON THE EASTERN PLAINS. BIG CHANGES ARE ON THE WAY TOMORROW HOWEVER...AS A COLD FRONT BEGINS TO PUSH THROUGH THE AREA. PRECIPITATION WILL TRANSITION FROM RAIN TO SNOW THROUGH THE DAY AS THE FRONT PROGRESSES SOUTH. PRECIPITATION WILL TURN TO ALL SNOW FOR WEDNESDAY NIGHT AND THURSDAY. SIGNIFICANT ACCUMULATING SNOW IS LOOKING INCREASINGLY POSSIBLE. MUCH COLDER AIR WILL FILTER IN FOR THURSDAY AND FRIDAY AS WELL...WITH HIGHS ONLY CLIMBING INTO THE 20S AND 30S. && .CYS WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... WY...HIGH WIND WARNING UNTIL 9 AM TUESDAY FOR WYZ104-WYZ105-WYZ106- WYZ109-WYZ110. WINTER STORM WATCH FROM 6 AM WEDNESDAY TO 6 PM THURSDAY FOR WYZ103-WYZ105-WYZ110-WYZ112-WYZ114. WINTER STORM WATCH FROM 6 PM WEDNESDAY TO 6 PM THURSDAY FOR WYZ106-WYZ115-WYZ116-WYZ117-WYZ118. NE...NONE. && $$ SHORT TERM...FINCH LONG TERM/AVIATION/FIRE WEATHER...HAHN
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS COLUMBIA SC
228 AM EDT THU OCT 25 2012 .SYNOPSIS... DRY HIGH PRESSURE WILL REMAIN THE DOMINANT WEATHER FEATURE THROUGH FRIDAY. TROPICAL SYSTEM SANDY IS FORECAST TO MOVE NORTHWARD AND REMAIN OFF THE SOUTHEAST COAST THIS WEEKEND. SEE THE LATEST ADVISORY FROM THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER. A COLD FRONT APPROACHING FROM THE WEST WILL MOVE THOUGH THE AREA SUNDAY. THE COOLEST AIR OF THE SEASON SO FAR WILL FOLLOW THIS FRONT FOR EARLY NEXT WEEK. && .NEAR TERM /THROUGH TODAY/... LOW-LEVEL MOISTURE HAS INCREASED IN THE EASTERLY FLOW SOUTH OF THE PRESSURE RIDGE. THIS MOISTURE COMBINED WITH STRONG RADIATIONAL COOLING HAS RESULTED IN AREAS OF FOG. THE FOG MAY BECOME DENSE AND A DENSE FOG ADVISORY MAY BE NEEDED ESPECIALLY IN THE EAST PART WHERE DEW POINT TEMPERATURE ARE HIGHER. HEATING AND MIXING SHOULD HELP DISSIPATE THE FOG BY 1000 AM. THE TEMPERATURE GUIDANCE IS CLOSE. EXPECT HIGHS MAINLY IN THE LOWER 80S. && .SHORT TERM /TONIGHT THROUGH FRIDAY NIGHT/... SURFACE HIGH PRESSURE WILL REMAIN ENTRENCHED OVER THE REGION THROUGH THURSDAY NIGHT. THE RIDGE WILL WEAKEN FRIDAY AHEAD OF THE COLD FRONT APPROACHING FROM THE WEST AND TROPICAL SYSTEM SANDY PUSHING NORTHWARD OFF THE SOUTHEAST COAST. MOISTURE SHOULD REMAIN SHALLOW THROUGH FRIDAY. MOISTURE MAY BECOME DEEP ENOUGH TO SUPPORT SHOWERS FRIDAY NIGHT IN THE EASTERLY FLOW BETWEEN SANDY OFF THE SOUTHEAST COAST AND THE PRESSURE RIDGE TO THE NORTH. THE GFS IS MORE PRONOUNCED WITH THIS MOISTURE COMPARED TO THE NAM. FORECASTED CHANCE POPS IN THE EAST PART. USED THE GUIDANCE CONSENSUS FOR THE TEMPERATURE FORECAST. && .LONG TERM /SATURDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY/... THE MEDIUM RANGE MODELS SHOW TROPICAL CYCLONE SANDY MOVING NORTHWARD AHEAD OF THE UPPER-LEVEL TROUGH MOVING INTO THE EASTERN PART OF THE NATION. THE ECMWF HAS BEEN PERSISTENT IN ITS PATH WHICH IS MORE WEST THAN THE OTHER MODELS BUT STILL KEEPS THE CENTER WELL EAST OF THE FORECAST AREA. THE COLD FRONT APPROACHING THE FORECAST AREA WILL BECOME DIFFUSE BECAUSE OF THE NORTHERLY FLOW ASSOCIATED WITH THE CIRCULATION OF SANDY. THE LACK OF CONVERGENCE INTO THE FRONT PLUS THE MODEL FORECAST OF DEEPER MOISTURE ASSOCIATED WITH SANDY STAYING EAST OF THE AREA SUPPORTS JUST LOW POPS. BREEZY NORTHERLY WINDS ARE EXPECTED SATURDAY...ESPECIALLY ACROSS THE EASTERN MIDLANDS. THE COOLEST AIR OF THE SEASON SO FAR WILL CIRCULATE INTO THE AREA BEHIND THE COLD FRONT FOR EARLY NEXT WEEK. THE GFS ENSEMBLE MEANS SUPPORT LOWS IN THE MIDDLE AND UPPER 30S. && .AVIATION /06Z THURSDAY THROUGH MONDAY/... NEAR SURFACE MOISTURE HAS CONTINUED TO INCREASE WITH DEWPOINTS IN THE MID TO UPPER 50S. PATCHY FOG ALREADY DEVELOPING AGS/OGB WITH IFR VSBYS. HI-RES HRRR AND SREF INDICATE REDUCED VSBYS SO HIGHER THAN NORMAL CONFIDENCE IN RESTRICTIONS AT TERMINALS THROUGH THE PREDAWN HOURS. IFR VSBYS TO DROP TO LIFR AFTER 08Z-09Z OGB/AGS WHILE CAE/CUB START VFR AND DROP TO IFR AFTER 10Z WITH POSSIBLE LIFR VSBYS AT TIMES BUT LOWER CONFIDENCE IN LIFR AT THIS TIME. FOG SHOULD DISPERSE AFTER 15Z AS NORTHEAST-EASTERLY WINDS PICK UP TO AROUND 10 MPH AND MIXING TAKES PLACE. SOME AFTERNOON CUMULUS BUT NO RESTRICTIONS TO CIGS. EXTENDED AVIATION OUTLOOK...INCREASING CONFIDENCE IN RESTRICTIONS FRIDAY MORNING IN FOG AND STRATUS. INCREASING WINDS AND GUSTS EXPECTED THIS WEEKEND ASSOCIATED WITH INCREASED PRESSURE GRADIENT AS SANDY LIFTS NORTHWARD IN THE ATLANTIC. && .CAE WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... SC...NONE. GA...NONE. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS MARQUETTE MI
139 AM EDT THU OCT 25 2012 .SHORT TERM...(THIS EVENING THROUGH THURSDAY) ISSUED AT 416 PM EDT WED OCT 24 2012 12Z RAOBS/LATEST WV IMAGERY AND RUC ANALYSIS SHOW SW FLOW ALF OVER THE PLAINS BTWN DEEP TROF OFF THE PACIFIC COAST AND AN UPR RDG AXIS ALIGNED FM HUDSON BAY THRU THE CENTRAL GRT LKS INTO THE SE CONUS. DESPITE THE PRESENCE OF AN UNSEASONABLY WARM...MOIST LLVL AIRMASS /PWATS UP TO 250 PCT OF NORMAL/ OVER THE UPR GRT LKS...THERE ARE ONLY A FEW -SHRA NOTED ON THE MQT RADAR DUE TO STRONG CAPPING INVRN BTWN H75-8 AS NOTED ON THE LOCAL 12Z RAOBS EVEN THOUGH A SHALLOW... WEAK COLD FNT ATTENDANT TO CLOSED LO OVER SASKATCHEWAN HAS LIMPED INTO THE FAR WRN CWA. A DISTURBANCE WITH 70KT H5 WINDS LIFTING NEWD THRU THE DAKOTAS IS CAUSING AN AREA OF -SHRA UNDER SHARP H7 TEMP GRADIENT OVER THE NRN PLAINS INTO NW MN WELL WELL W OF THE SFC COLD FNT AND THE AREA INFLUENCED BY THE SHARP MID LVL CAP. THE SHRTWV IN THE NRN PLAINS AND ANOTHER MORE VIGOROUS DISTURBANCE MOVING THRU THE CNTRL ROCKIES HAVE CONSPIRED TO CAUSE A LO PRES TO DVLP FARTHER S ON THE COLD FNT IN KANSAS. OVER UPR MI... AREAS OF FOG LINGER ESPECIALLY OVER THE CENTRAL ZNS WHERE LLVL SSE FLOW IS UPSLOPING. THE LOWERING SUN ANGLE AND PERSISTENT FOG AND LO CLDS HAVE LIMITED SFC WARMING. FARTHER TO THE S...MORE BREAKS IN THE LO CLDS HAVE ALLOWED FOR MORE SFC WARMING OVER ERN IOWA AND SRN WI. TNGT...MAIN FCST CONCERNS ARE SHRA/TS CHCS AND POTENTIAL FOR SVR WX AS DISTURBANCES LIFT TO THE NE OUT OF MEAN WRN TROF. SPC HAS PLACED WRN UPR MI IN A SLGT RISK FOR SVR STORMS TNGT. GIVEN ABSENCE OF ANY SGNFT SFC WARMING OVER UPR MI THIS AFTN AND SHARP INVRN...ANY CONVECTION SHUD BE ELEVATED AND DEPENDENT ON WHETHER/HOW QUICKLY THE SHARP H8-75 INVRN WEAKENS. 12Z GFS/NAM HAVE TRENDED TO SHIFT FOCUS FOR MOST SGNFT DEEP LYR QVECTOR CNVGC ASSOCIATED WITH DISTURBANCE NOW IN THE NRN PLAINS INTO MN AT 00Z...A LOGICAL SHIFT GIVEN HI AMPLITUDE PATTERN IN PLACE AND SHIFT OF SECOND SHRTWV FARTHER W INTO THE UPR TROF AXIS. HIER RES NAM RUN SHOWS THE SHARPEST/SLOPED H85-7 FGEN/UVV IMPACTING WRN LK SUP AT 00Z BEFORE SHIFTING TO THE NE AS THE DEEP LYR QVECTOR CNVGC ASSOCIATED WITH THE FIRST SHRTWV FADES AS THE UPR TROF DEEPENS FARTHER W WITH CLOSER APRCH OF 2ND SHRTWV. GIVEN THE STRENTH OF THE CAPPING ILLUSTRATED BY THE 12Z RAOBS... SUSPECT MOST WDSPRD AND INTENSE SHRA/TS THIS EVNG WL MISS THE LAND CWA TO THE W...WITH ALL BUT THE FAR W SEEING NOTHING MORE THAN ISOLD-SCT -SHRA/TS OR -DZ IN THIS SCENARIO AS WEAKER FORCING HERE LIMITS THE WEAKENING OF THE CAP. EVEN THE NAM DOES SHOW A SECOND AREA OF HIER QPF OVER THE SE ZNS...AND THIS MIGHT DEPEND ON IF SOME SHRA DVLP WITH THE CLRG OVER SE WI AND MOVE TO THE N. ALTHOUGH THE GFS SHOWS SIMILAR UPR FORCING...THIS MODEL...WITH THE SUPPORT OF THE 12Z CNDN GEM MODEL...SHOWS AXIS OF HIER QPF OVER WRN UPR MI NEAR THE SFC COLD FNT. GIVEN THE PLACEMENT OF THE SHARPER DYNAMICS AND PATTERN RECOGNITION... THINK THE NAM FCST IS THE BEST BET. GIVEN IMPRESSIVE DEEP LYR SHEAR ABV THE MORE STABLE LYR NEAR THE SFC...ANY TS THAT MIGHT IMPACT THE WRN ZNS COULD TURN SVR WITH HAIL THE MAIN THREAT GIVEN SFC BASED STABILITY. WITH THE UNSEASONABLY WARM...MOIST AIRMASS IN PLACE AND HI FRZG LVL...ANY SHRA COULD DUMP HEAVY RA EVEN IF THEY ARE FAST MOVING UNDER THE STEADY FLOW ALF. AS THE SECOND SHRTWV RIDES NEWD LATER TNGT...ANOTHER AREA OF VIGOROUS H85-5 QVECTOR CNVGC/UPR DVGC IS PROGGED TO IMPACT MAINLY MN TOWARD 12Z. SO AFT INITIAL ROUND OF HIER POPS LIFTS TO THE NE...SUSPECT ANOTHER ROUND OF HEAVIER SHRA/SOME TS WL INVADE THE WRN CWA LATER. WITH ONLY MODEST DIURNAL COOLING...EXPECT FOG TO REDVLP... ESPECIALLY IN AREAS OVER THE ECNTRL EXPERIENCING UPSLOPE SSE WINDS. THU...AS DISTURBANCE/ACCOMPANYING H3 JET MAX AND DEEP LYR QVECTOR CNVGC/UPR DVGC RIDE TO THE NNE WITH ASSOCIATED SFC LO MOVING UP THE STALLED COLD FNT OVER THE W...EXPECT AN AREA OF SHRA/EMBEDDED TS TO IMPACT MAINLY THE W HALF IN THE MRNG BEFORE THE SHRTWV MOVES FAR ENUF TO THE N AND DEEP LYR QVECTOR DVGC DVLPS WITH DNVA/STRONG CAD IN THE WAKE OF COLD FROPA AS SFC LO MOVES INTO ONTARIO IN THE AFTN. THINK CATEGORICAL POPS ARE APPROPRIATE OVER THE W IN THE MRNG...WITH THE HIER POPS FOLLOWING THE COLD FROPA TO THE E. ALTHOUGH SFC BASED STABILITY WL LIMIT THE INCRS IN WIND SPEED BLO ADVY LVL...S WINDS NEAR LK MI MAY BECOME QUITE GUSTY IN ADVANCE OF THE COLD FROPA UNDER H925 WINDS UP TO 50 KTS AND WITH SHARP PRES FALL CENTER MOVING INTO ONTARIO AHEAD OF THE SFC LO PROVIDING ENHANCEMENT TO THE S GRADIENT FLOW. COMBINATION OF STRONG CAD AND W H925 WINDS INCRSG UP TO 35-40 KT IN THE WAKE OF THE FROPA MIGHT CAUSE WIND GUSTS OVER THE EXPOSED KEWEENAW TO AT LEAST APRCH ADVY LVL IN THE AFTN. ENUF COLD AIR MAY ARRIVE TO AT LEAST MIX LINGERING USPLOPE LK ENHANCED -SHRA WITH SN OVER THE FAR W IF THE COLDER NAM SHOWING H85 TEMPS FALLING TOWARD -5C AT 00Z FRI VERIFIES. THE SHARP COLD FROPA WARRANTS A NON DIURNAL TEMP TREND...WITH TEMPS FALLING BEHIND THE FROPA ESPECIALLY OVER THE W. .LONG TERM...(THURSDAY NIGHT THROUGH WEDNESDAY) ISSUED AT 416 PM EDT WED OCT 24 2012 BY EARLY THURSDAY EVENING...THE MAIN SFC LOW SHOULD BE OVER NE ONTARIO...WITH THE COLD FRONT JUST E OF UPPER MI...AND A SECONDARY TROUGH SET UP E-W FROM THE LOW ACROSS LAKE WINNIPEG. THE 500MB LOW OVER LAKE WINNIPEG WILL SLIDE NNE OUT OF THE AREA. W FLOW AND 850MB TEMPS AROUND -8C SHOULD HELP KEEP SOME LAKE ENHANCED SHOWER ACTIVITY GOING ACROSS W UPPER MI. HOWEVER...THE LOW LEVEL MOISTURE WILL BE QUITE A BIT LESS DURING THAT TIME...WITH PLENTY OF CLOUDS BUT JUST LIGHT SNOW SHOWERS OR FLURRIES POSSIBLE. EXPECT THE SECONDARY TROUGH TO PUSH ACROSS THE KEWEENAW PENINSULA FRIDAY EVENING...BUT HAVE LITTLE WITH IT AS MUCH OF THE ENERGY REMAINS CLOSER TO THE SFC LOW ITSELT OVER N HUDSON BAY BY THAT TIME. ANOTHER ROUND OF CLOUDS AND LIGHT SNOW SHOWERS. NO SIGNIFICANT ACCUMULATION IS EXPECTED...AS THE BEST SNOW GROWTH REGION /AOA 800MB/ REMAINS WELL ABOVE THE MOISTURE. THE LARGE SCALE TROUGH WILL DOMINATE MUCH OF THE NATION FRIDAY NIGHT THROUGH AT LEAST SATURDAY. AN ELONGATED AREA OF HIGH PRESSURE STRETCHING FROM THE MAIN HIGH OVER CENTRAL CANADA TO THE CENTRAL PLAINS FRIDAY NIGHT WILL SLOWLY BUILD ACROSS THE UPPER GREAT LAKES...THROUGH AT LEAST SUNDAY. HIGH PRESSURE WILL REMAIN STRONG OVER ONTARIO THROUGH THE MID MS VALLEY...EVEN AS THE STRONG SYSTEM PUSHES TOWARDS THE EAST COAST. AS A RESULT OF THE NEARING STORM SYSTEM...THE SFC HIGH SHOULD MAINTAIN ITS INFLUENCE OVER THE W HALF OF UPPER MI. HOWEVER...N FLOW WILL LIKELY DOMINATE FAR E UPPER MI FROM SUNDAY NIGHT THROUGH THE END OF THE FCST PERIOD /WEDNESDAY/ AS THE LOW RETROGRADES . UNLIKE THE ECMWF WHICH CONTINUES TO SHOW GOOD RUN TO RUN CONSISTANCY ON THE POTENTIAL STORM SYSTEM SLIDING TOWARDS THE E COAST...THE GFS IS A BIT MORE JUMPY. THE MODEL IS SPLIT ON WHETHER TO BRING THE LOW OFF TO SEE...OR EVEM MORE ONSHORE BY WEDNESDAY MORNING /NEAR LAKE HURON/ IF THE 24/06Z RUN IS CORRECT. THE 24/12Z GFS SHIFTED THE 500MB LOW APPROX 300-350MI W OF ITS PREVIOUS MORE OUT TO SEA LOCATION MONDAY MORNING. WILL CONTINUE TO HEDGE THE FCST A BIT CLOSER TO THE MORE STABLE ECMWF SOLUTION. && .AVIATION...(FOR THE 06Z TAFS THROUGH 06Z THURSDAY NIGHT) ISSUED AT 138 AM EDT THU OCT 25 2012 QUITE A PESSIMISTIC FORECAST IN THE MAKING AS ABUNDANT MOISTURE AND AN OVERALL STAGNANT AIRMASS ALONG A SURFACE BOUNDARY WILL KEEP CIGS AND VIS QUITE LOW AT ALL SITES THROUGH MUCH OF THE TAF PERIOD. GIVEN GENERAL FLOW FROM THE N...HAVE KEPT CIGS IN THE VLIFR/LIFR RANGE OVERNIGHT. DO NOT EXPECT MUCH IMPROVEMENT AT IWD WITH FLOW OUT OF THE NORTH TO NE THROUGH EARLY THURSDAY MORNING. DRIER AIR WILL MOVE IN BY LATE AFTERNOON AND EVENING WHICH SHOULD BRING IMPROVING CONDITIONS INTO THE MVFR RANGE. A PERIOD OF MVFR CIGS VSBY FOLLOWING AN ARES OF SHRA/TSRA MAY LOWER AGAIN INTO THE IFR RANGE WITH ABUNDANT LOW LEVEL MOISTURE REMAINING OVER THE AREA. A STRONG COLD FRONT SHOULD REACH CMX BY 18Z THURSDAY...WITH A QUICK WIND SHIFT TO THE WNW AND WIND SPEED INCREASE TO AROUND 20KT. SSE UPSLOPE FLOW AT SAW HAD REMAINED BELOW LANDING MINS MOST OF THIS EVENING BUT HAVE LIFTED SLIGHTLY AFTER SOME LIGHT RAIN MOVED THROUGH. EXPECT THAT THE FOG AND LOW CIGS WILL CONTINUE UNTIL MORE PERSISTENT RAIN MOVES IN LATE TONIGHT AND THU WHEN WINDS SHIFT MORE TO THE SSW AND REDUCE UPSLOPE FLOW AHEAD OF THE APPROACHING COLD FRONT. LASTLY...MARGINAL LLWS OF ABOUT 30-40KTS OVER THE LOWEST 1.5KFT IS POSSIBLE AS WINDS ALOFT INCREASE AHEAD OF THE FRONT. && .MARINE...(FOR THE 4 PM LAKE SUPERIOR FORECAST ISSUANCE) ISSUED AT 416 PM EDT WED OCT 24 2012 EXPECT DENSE FOG OVER THE W HALF OF LAKE SUPERIOR TO LINGER THRU THIS EVENING BEFORE THE ARRIVAL OF SOMEWHAT DRIER LOW LEVEL AIR IS ABLE TO DISSIPATE THE FOG. THE DENSER FOG WILL LINGER LONGEST NEAR THE W SHORE OF UPPER MI. OTHERWISE...EXPECT S WINDS TO INCREASE TO 30 KTS OVER THE E HALF OF THE LAKE ON THU AS A STRONG COLD FRONT APPROACHES. RELATIVELY LIGHT WINDS OVER THE W AND CENTRAL WILL SHIFT TO THE W FOLLOWING THE COLD FROPA ON THU AND INCREASE UP TO 30 KTS IN THE AFTERNOON...WITH HIGH PRESSURE DEVELOPING OVER THE NORTHERN AND CENTRAL PLAINS. THERE MAY BE SOME GALE FORCE WINDS NEAR THE KEWEENAW LATE IN THE DAY. THESE MARGINAL GALES WILL LIKELY IMPACT PORTIONS OF THE CENTRAL LAKE ON THU EVENING...SO HOISTED A GALE WATCH FOR NOW IN THIS AREA. LIGHTER WINDS WITH HIGH PRESSURE WILL SLOWLY PUSH OVER THE UPPER GREAT LAKES THROUGH MONDAY...WITH THE STRONGEST WINDS OVER E LAKE SUPERIOR. && .MQT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... UPPER MICHIGAN... NONE. LAKE SUPERIOR... GALE WATCH FROM THIS EVENING THROUGH LATE TONIGHT FOR LSZ265-266. LAKE MICHIGAN... NONE. && $$ SHORT TERM...KC LONG TERM...KF AVIATION...JLB MARINE...KC/KF
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NWS TWIN CITIES/CHANHASSEN MN
348 AM CDT THU OCT 25 2012 .DISCUSSION... PRIMARY FORECAST CONCERNS THIS MORNING ARE PRECIP TYPE AND AMOUNTS ASSOCIATED WITH A SHORTWAVE TROUGH EJECTING OUT OF THE ROCKIES. AT THE LOWER LEVELS...MOISTURE TRANSPORT OVERRUNNING THE SURFACE BOUNDARY CONTINUES TO SPAWN CONVECTION FROM SOUTHERN MINNESOTA INTO WEST CENTRAL WI. EMBEDDED THUNDER WILL CONTINUE TO BE POSSIBLE ACROSS THE EASTERN HALF OF THE FORECAST AREA THIS MORNING WHERE ELEVATED INSTABILITY EXISTS. MEANWHILE...THE ATTENDANT DEFORMATION SNOW BAND HAS ENTERED WEST CENTRAL MN...AND WILL GRADUALLY EXPAND EASTWARD ACROSS THE AREA OVER THE NEXT 12 HOURS AS THE TROUGH SHIFTS EAST. HAVE SPED UP THE TRANSITION OF RAIN TO SNOW...PER CURRENT TRENDS AND NAM/GFS/RAP/SREF/ARW BUFKIT PROFILES...WHICH INDICATE SNOW MIXING IN WITH THE RAIN OVER THE REMAINDER OF CENTRAL MN BETWEEN 15Z AND 18Z...AND IN WEST CENTRAL WI BETWEEN 18Z AND 21Z. THE HRRR AND HI-RESW-NMMEAST SIMULATED PRECIP TYPE PROGS COMPLEMENT THIS THINKING AS WELL. SNOWFALL AMOUNTS STILL APPEAR TO TOP OUT FROM 1 TO 2 INCHES OVER WEST CENTRAL MN...WITH NOT MORE THAN A TRACE EXPECTED TO THE EAST DUE TO THE EXPECTATION THAT PRECIP WILL BE SHUTTING OFF AROUND OR SHORTLY AFTER SNOW DEVELOPS. SURFACE TEMPERATURES WILL REMAIN STEADY OR GRADUALLY FALL THIS AFTERNOON AS STRONG COLD ADVECTION ENSUES IN THE WAKE OF THE TROUGH. ACCOMPANYING NORTHWEST WINDS OF 15 TO 25 MPH WILL CREATE QUITE BRISK CONDITIONS THIS AFTERNOON...AS WIND CHILLS DECREASE INTO THE 20S. PRECIPITATION SHOULD COME TO AN END BY THIS EVENING...WITH MOSTLY CLEAR SKIES EXPECTED FOR TONIGHT. TEMPERATURES WILL FALL INTO THE 25 TO 30 DEGREE RANGE FOR THE MOST PART. CONTINUED COLD TEMPERATURES WILL PERSIST FOR FRIDAY...WITH HIGHS ONLY REACHING THE UPPER 30S AND LOWER 40S. BROAD SURFACE HIGH PRESSURE AND MID LEVEL TROUGHING WILL TRANSLATE TO CONTINUED BELOW NORMAL TEMPERATURES THROUGH THE WEEKEND. HIGHS WILL MAINLY RANGE FROM AROUND 40 TO 45 DEGREES ON SATURDAY AND SUNDAY...WITH SUB-FREEZING LOWS. FRIDAY NIGHT APPEARS TO BE THE COLDEST NIGHT OF THE WEEKEND...WHEN READINGS ARE EXPECTED TO DIP TO BETWEEN 20 AND 25 DEGREES. MORE CLOUD COVER AND EVEN LIGHT SNOW WILL BE POSSIBLE FOR SATURDAY NIGHT ACROSS WEST CENTRAL AND SOUTH CENTRAL MN...AS A WEAK MID LEVEL WAVE CLIPS THE SOUTHERN HALF OF THE STATE. TEMPERATURES WILL SLOWLY MODERATE AT THE START OF THE UPCOMING WEEK...WITH HIGHS IN THE MID 40S TO LOWER 50S BY WEDNESDAY. && .AVIATION.../06Z TAF ISSUANCE/ THUNDERSTORMS HAVE DEVELOPED...BUT REMAIN PRIMARILY ALONG AND AHEAD OF THE FRONT FROM NRN IA TO SWRN WI. A FEW MORE HAVE ALSO FORMED NEAR THE TWIN CITIES AND NEW RICHMOND...BUT SHOULD NOT PERSIST IN THOSE LOCATIONS FOR TOO LONG. THESE STORMS WILL CONTINUE ON A SCATTERED BASIS FOR MUCH OF THE OVERNIGHT HOURS AND AFFECT MAINLY EAU. FARTHER WEST...EXPECT WIDESPREAD RAIN TO DEVELOP FROM SOUTHWEST TO NORTHEAST DURING THE OVERNIGHT HOURS AS AN IMPULSE OVER THE PLAINS PUSHES NORTHEAST. STILL EXPECTING THE RAIN TO TURN TO SNOW AT AXN...RWF...AND STC BETWEEN 09Z-12Z AS COLDER AIR PUSHES SOUTHEAST. SOME SNOW MAY MIX WITH RAIN TOWARD LATE MORNING AT MSP...EARLY AFTERNOON AT RNH...AND MID AFTERNOON NEAR EAU. OTHERWISE...CONDITIONS WILL DETERIORATE TO IFR OR LIFR CONDITIONS WITH THE RAIN AND SNOW BEFORE IMPROVING MARKEDLY BY THURSDAY EVENING. KMSP...A FEW STORMS HAVE FORMED SOUTHEAST OF THE TERMINAL...BUT CONFIDENCE IS NOT HIGH ENOUGH WITH REGARDS TO PROXIMITY TO INCLUDE THEM AS A VCTS IN THE TAF ATTM. STEADY RAIN WILL DEVELOP LATE TONIGHT WITH IFR CONDITIONS PERSISTING THROUGH LATE MORNING...THEN GRADUALLY IMPROVE THROUGH THE DAY AS DRIER AIR MOVES IN. COULD SEE A FEW SNOWFLAKES MIX WITH THE RAIN BY EARLY AFTERNOON. /OUTLOOK FOR KMSP/ FRI...VFR. WINDS WNW 10G20KTS. SAT...VFR. WINDS LGT AND VRB. SUN...VFR. SLIGHT CHANCE -RASH. WINDS SE AT 5 KTS. && .MPX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... MN...NONE. WI...NONE. && $$ LS/BORGHOFF
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NWS KANSAS CITY/PLEASANT HILL MO
1207 AM CDT Thu Oct 25 2012 ...UPDATED AVIATION DISCUSSION... .DISCUSSION... Today through Saturday... In the short term, the primary focus will be precipitation chances with a dynamic cold front approaching from the northwest. Although most model solutions continue to indicate light, warm sector precipitation across northwest Missouri this afternoon and evening, and low level moisture is evident in the scattered to broken MVFR deck, the weak forcing resulting from slight isentropic lift has not been enough to produce rain showers ahead of the surface cold front. Short range hi-res models have caught onto the lack of precipitation this afternoon, and keep rainfall out of Missouri prior to 06z. Have hedged a bit earlier than the latest HRRR forecasts in bringing a chance of precipitation into far northwestern portions of the CWA for the potential that storms could develop on the boundary and move into the far northwest before 06z; however, the better chances for showers and thunderstorms will be Thursday as the main trough axis dips into southeast Nebraska and begins driving the surface front more quickly to the southeast. Both the NAM and GFS produce convective precipitation along the low level boundary tonight as frontogenesis increases and midlevel cooling supports temporarily higher lapse rates, mainly above 925mb. The best chance for any robust storms to develop will likely be confined to the period between 06z-09z when storms can be rooted more closely to the surface; afterward, the low-level inversion will be compounded by surface frontal passage, and the focus for precipitation will shift a bit closer to the 850mb front. Most precipitation during the daylight hours on Thursday should occur mainly along the 850 front, with a small chance for some isolated development along the surface front in far eastern portions of the forecast area early Thursday afternoon. Rain chances will linger a bit across the southeast as midlevel forcing broadens early Friday evening, with any remaining showers expected to move out shortly between 00z-06z Friday. Temperatures will drop significantly behind the cold front, and in general, highs will be reached just prior to frontal passage on Thursday. Highs for Friday and Saturday will be well below average as cold surface high pressure settles into the region, and lows Friday night could drop a few degrees below freezing across areas that have not previously received a hard freeze. Laflin Medium Range (Saturday Night through Wednesday)... As the Canadian surface ridge remains settled over the area this weekend...temperatures will dip to around 30 degrees Sunday morning. The northern zones have experienced a hard freeze so will have to make some decisions tomorrow about headlines for the southern three quarters of the area for Sunday and possibly Monday mornings. The 500-1000mb thicknesses are around 537-540DM by Sunday morning with very light winds and clear skies. Lows on Monday morning may be a few degrees warmer as the surface ridge slides further east. Not much in the way of advection at this time though and the dry conditions with light winds...may require a downward tweak of the lows for Monday morning. By Tuesday...we will see the winds finally swing around to the south as the ridge moves further east so there will be an increase in the thicknesses and 850 mb temps...therefore we should see above freezing temperatures on Tuesday and Wednesday mornings. Daytime highs through the extended will show a gradual warming trend as well from the 40s on Sunday to the around 60 degrees F by Tuesday and Wednesday. Storm track remains well to the north so no precipitation is expected through the period. Adolphson && .AVIATION... For the 06Z TAFs...strong cold front over southeast Nebraska and far northwest MO will make very little southward push until later tonight, and may not clear STJ until 10Z despite being just a few miles away. Front will then accelerate through the remainder of western and central MO through Thursday morning. Widespread IFR cigs behind the front are likely to overspread all terminals through the morning, and may be slow to lift and scatter through the afternoon. Post-frontal convection is currently organizing and growing widespread over KS/NE, but is forecast to weaken and decrease in coverage by the time it reaches the KC terminals. Will therefore continue to include only a VCTS for now, and will watch for amendments to add thunder as needed. Hawblitzel && .EAX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... MO...NONE. KS...NONE. && $$ WFO EAX
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NWS BISMARCK ND
1148 PM CDT WED OCT 24 2012 .DISCUSSION...LATEST FOG/STRATUS IMAGERY LOOP ALONG WITH SURFACE OBSERVATIONS SHOW A SWATH OF STRATUS ACROSS NORTHERN NORTH DAKOTA. THE RUC 925MB RH FIELD SEEMED TO HAVE THIS HANDLED WELL...MOVING THIS AREA SOUTHEAST OVERNIGHT. CONCUR WITH THIS...ESPECIALLY AS THE UPPER TROUGH/MAXIMUM CYCLONIC CURVATURE NOW CENTERED IN THE WEST MOVES INTO CENTRAL NORTH DAKOTA BY 12Z THURSDAY. FOR THE REST OF TONIGHT...DUE TO WIDESPREAD STRATUS HAVE WARMED MINIMUM TEMPERATURES INTO THE UPPER 20S IN THE FAR WEST AND MID 20S SOUTHWEST. ALSO WITH UPSTREAM CANADIAN SURFACE OBS SHOWING FLURRIES...HAVE ADDED THAT INTO THE NORTH CENTRAL OVERNIGHT. A COLD H85 POCKET OF AIR AS DENOTED BY THE -8C IN SOUTHERN SASKATCHEWAN AND EASTERN MONTANA WILL GRADUALLY SHIFT SOUTHEAST LATER TONIGHT INTO EARLY THURSDAY. THIS WILL PROMOTE MORE INSTABILITY THURSDAY WITH POSSIBLE FLURRIES IN THE NORTH. WILL MAINTAIN THIS IN THE FORECAST. OTHERWISE DRY AND COLD ELSEWHERE. && .AVIATION...LOW PRESSURE ACROSS MANITOBA WILL MOVE EAST AND MAINTAIN A COOL/BRISK TO WINDY NORTHWEST FLOW THROUGH THURSDAY. WIDESPREAD MVFR CIGS ACROSS THE NORTHERN AERODROMES WILL CONTINUE TO MOVE SOUTH THROUGH 12Z THURSDAY. EXPECT A GRADUAL LIFTING AND DETERIORATION OF THE MVFR CIGS THURSDAY MORNING INTO THE EARLY AFTERNOON. NORTHWEST WINDS WILL INCREASE WITH SUSTAINED WINDS BETWEEN 20 AND 25 MPH...AND GUSTS TO 35 MPH THURSDAY AFTERNOON. && .BIS WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... NONE. && $$ DISCUSSION...KS AVIATION...WAA
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS SPOKANE WA
1052 PM PDT Wed Oct 24 2012 .SYNOPSIS...A band of rain and mountain snow will move through the area today and tonight. The weather will generally be quiet on Thursday before the next weather system arrives Friday with additional storms for the weekend. More precipitation is expected into early next week. && .DISCUSSION... Update to account for expiration of snow advisory in the East Slopes. Western edge of the deformation band is weakening with cloud tops quickly warming and HRRR all in good agreement that additional QPF amounts will be 0.02" or less. As such, we will allow the advisory to run its course and expire at 11PM. Still be aware of slick driving conditions during the morning hours due to re-freezing and/or any isolated light snow accumulations from convective snow showers moving through overnight. Previous discussion: We have made some slight adjustments to the winter weather advisory for the remainder of the night. A band of light to moderate precipitation continues to impact the northern mountains from the Pasayten Wilderness...eastward to the Sandpoint, ID. Satellite reveals warming cloud tops suggesting this band is weakening and is most concentrated over the Okanogan Highlands...NE WA Mtns...and Nrn ID Panhandle. A tour of observation networks across the region suggest snow levels have dropped some with levels across the Okanogan Highlands, NE WA Mtns, and Nrn ID Panhandle sitting around 3K ft. As such, we have made adjustments to the winter wx advisory to bring light acccumulations down to these levels. In IDZ004, the Central Panhandle Mtns, pcpn is struggling to materialize and this will equate to the lower snow totals. The NAM...EC...and HRRR have captured this better then the GFS and were referenced for the remainder of the night. Despite the lack of pcpn over this region from the stable deformation band, cellular cloud structure in conjuction with the model 500mb temperatures suggest the atmosphere is going to become increasingly unstable once again. Winds behind this evening`s wave should become SW/W before swinging to the W/NW Thursday morning. In addition, another midlevel circulation is currently crossing the Blue Mtns and should incr the shower activity across lower Shoshone County overnight. All it will take is a few heavy convective showers to get going and localized accumulations of 1-3 inches will be possible with the convective showers. On another note, the lack of pcpn has allowed pockets of cooler temperatures across the Idaho Panhandle with Wallace currently sitting at 35F with a 32F dewpoint. Bonners Ferry is also 36F over 32F and as pcpn reaches into these locations, I would not be surprised to see snow reach these valley floors. If the pcpn remains light, the above freezing temperatures should neglect any impacts but if any heavier showers were to come through, light accumulations will be possible on roadways including I-90 between Wallace and 4th of July Pass. All things considered, we have lowered the snow advisory for the Central Panhandle Mtns down to 2500 feet. If the 00z GFS was to verify...1-3 inches of snow will be easily achievable in locations like Deary, Wallace, and Lookout Pass which has come in with 0.25" liquid along a elongated convergence zone or pressure trough at the surface. /sb && .AVIATION... 06Z TAFS: The steady band of rain and snow has pushed north of all terminals however steepening lapse rates and smaller midlevel disturbances will keep a threat for showers of rain and snow in the fcst through early Thursday. Meanwhile, the BL remains very moist with widespread stratus and fog expected throughout the Columbia Basin...West Plains...and L-C Valley. All VIS/CIG restrictions associated with low clouds and fog should lift btwn 18-21z and weak high pressure aloft should promote a relative quiet wx day across the Inland NW. /sb && .PRELIMINARY POINT TEMPS/POPS... Spokane 31 42 34 41 32 45 / 50 20 10 50 40 40 Coeur d`Alene 31 43 33 41 32 44 / 60 50 10 50 40 40 Pullman 29 41 32 40 33 48 / 40 40 10 60 40 40 Lewiston 34 47 35 45 37 52 / 50 30 10 60 30 30 Colville 33 45 29 44 31 47 / 70 50 10 50 40 40 Sandpoint 30 41 30 41 32 44 / 80 60 10 40 40 50 Kellogg 32 38 26 38 31 43 / 80 60 20 50 60 50 Moses Lake 28 47 34 45 33 49 / 10 10 10 40 20 30 Wenatchee 31 47 35 44 35 47 / 20 10 10 40 20 30 Omak 31 46 33 46 34 48 / 50 10 10 50 30 40 && .OTX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... ID...Winter Weather Advisory until 11 AM PDT Thursday for Northern Panhandle. Winter Weather Advisory until 11 AM PDT Thursday for Central Panhandle Mountains. WA...Winter Weather Advisory until 11 AM PDT Thursday for Northeast Mountains-Okanogan Highlands. Winter Weather Advisory until 11 PM PDT this evening for East Slopes Northern Cascades. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS SPOKANE WA
1015 PM PDT Wed Oct 24 2012 .SYNOPSIS...A band of rain and mountain snow will move through the area today and tonight. The weather will generally be quiet on Thursday before the next weather system arrives Friday with additional storms for the weekend. More precipitation is expected into early next week. && .DISCUSSION... We have made some slight adjustments to the winter weather advisory for the remainder of the night. A band of light to moderate precipitation continues to impact the northern mountains from the Pasayten Wilderness...eastward to the Sandpoint, ID. A tour of observation networks across the region suggest snow levels have dropped some with levels across the Okanogan Highlands, NE WA Mtns, and Nrn ID Panhandle sitting around 3K ft. As such, we have made adjustments to the winter wx advisory to bring light acccumulations down to these levels. In IDZ004, the Central Panhandle Mtns, pcpn is struggling to materialize and this will equate to the lower snow totals. The NAM...EC...and HRRR have captured this better then the GFS and were referenced for the remainder of the night. Despite the lack of pcpn over this region from the stable deformation band, cellular cloud structure in conjuction with the model 500mb temperatures suggest the atmosphere is going to become increasingly unstable once again. Winds behind this evening`s wave should become SW/W before swinging to the W/NW Thursday morning. In addition, another midlevel circulation is currently crossing the Blue Mtns and should incr the shower activity across lower Shoshone County overnight. All it will take is a few heavy convective showers to get going and localized accumulations of 1-3 inches will be possible with the convective showers. On another note, the lack of pcpn has allowed pockets of cooler temperatures across the Idaho Panhandle with Wallace currently sitting at 35F with a 32F dewpoint. Bonners Ferry is also 36F over 32F and as pcpn reaches into these locations, I would not be surprised to see snow reach these valley floors. If the pcpn remains light, the above freezing temperatures should neglect any impacts but if any heavier showers were to come through, light accumulations will be possible on roadways and we will likely handle any updates with short term forecasts based on the isolated nature. All things considered, we have lowered the snow advisory for the Central Panhandle Mtns down to 2500 based on latest observations and if the 00z GFS was to verify...1-3 inches of snow will be easily achievable in locations like Deary, Wallace, and Lookout Pass. The threat for steady snow has ended for the East Slopes of the Cascades. Isolated to scattered showers will continue. Some locations may receive the first burst of snow accumulation so far this fall as showers become increasingly convective and temperatures cool in between cloud shields. At the current hour, a few heavier showers reside over southwestern Chelan county near the Crest. Expect this unorganized activity to continue through the night and extend into the Basin. AS such, we have included a slight chance for showers for all locations through the remainder of the night. /sb && .AVIATION... 00Z TAFS: Another round of rain and mtn snow is currently moving through the region and will continue to moisten an already juicy boundary layer. Consequently, expect widespread mtn obscurations along the northern mtns this evening and overnight. All terminals are expected to lower to MVFR/IFR levels either with the onset of pcpn or after the rain ends and skies briefly clear. Confidence on a whole is low for all sites given a wide array of MOS solutions per each TAF site. /sb && .PRELIMINARY POINT TEMPS/POPS... Spokane 31 42 34 41 32 45 / 50 20 10 50 40 40 Coeur d`Alene 31 43 33 41 32 44 / 80 50 10 50 40 40 Pullman 29 41 32 40 33 48 / 50 40 10 60 40 40 Lewiston 34 47 35 45 37 52 / 80 30 10 60 30 30 Colville 33 45 29 44 31 47 / 100 50 10 50 40 40 Sandpoint 30 41 30 41 32 44 / 100 60 10 40 40 50 Kellogg 32 38 26 38 31 43 / 90 60 20 50 60 50 Moses Lake 28 47 34 45 33 49 / 0 10 10 40 20 30 Wenatchee 31 47 35 44 35 47 / 10 10 10 40 20 30 Omak 31 46 33 46 34 48 / 80 10 10 50 30 40 && .OTX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... ID...Winter Weather Advisory until 11 AM PDT Thursday for Central Panhandle Mountains. Winter Weather Advisory until 11 AM PDT Thursday for Northern Panhandle. WA...Winter Weather Advisory until 11 AM PDT Thursday for Northeast Mountains-Okanogan Highlands. Winter Weather Advisory until 11 PM PDT this evening for East Slopes Northern Cascades. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS COLUMBIA SC
612 AM EDT THU OCT 25 2012 .SYNOPSIS... DRY HIGH PRESSURE WILL REMAIN THE DOMINANT WEATHER FEATURE THROUGH FRIDAY. TROPICAL SYSTEM SANDY IS FORECAST TO MOVE NORTHWARD AND REMAIN OFF THE SOUTHEAST COAST THIS WEEKEND. SEE THE LATEST ADVISORY FROM THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER. A COLD FRONT APPROACHING FROM THE WEST WILL MOVE THOUGH THE AREA SUNDAY. THE COOLEST AIR OF THE SEASON SO FAR WILL FOLLOW THIS FRONT FOR EARLY NEXT WEEK. && .NEAR TERM /THROUGH TONIGHT/... LOW-LEVEL MOISTURE HAS INCREASED IN THE EASTERLY FLOW SOUTH OF THE PRESSURE RIDGE. THIS MOISTURE COMBINED WITH STRONG RADIATIONAL COOLING HAS RESULTED IN AREAS OF FOG. THE FOG MAY BECOME DENSE AND A DENSE FOG ADVISORY MAY BE NEEDED ESPECIALLY IN THE EAST PART WHERE DEW POINT TEMPERATURE ARE HIGHER. HEATING AND MIXING SHOULD HELP DISSIPATE THE FOG BY 1000 AM. THE TEMPERATURE GUIDANCE IS CLOSE. EXPECT HIGHS MAINLY IN THE LOWER 80S. && .SHORT TERM /FRIDAY THROUGH FRIDAY NIGHT/... SURFACE HIGH PRESSURE WILL REMAIN ENTRENCHED OVER THE REGION THROUGH THURSDAY NIGHT. THE RIDGE WILL WEAKEN FRIDAY AHEAD OF THE COLD FRONT APPROACHING FROM THE WEST AND TROPICAL SYSTEM SANDY PUSHING NORTHWARD OFF THE SOUTHEAST COAST. MOISTURE SHOULD REMAIN SHALLOW THROUGH FRIDAY. MOISTURE MAY BECOME DEEP ENOUGH TO SUPPORT SHOWERS FRIDAY NIGHT IN THE EASTERLY FLOW BETWEEN SANDY OFF THE SOUTHEAST COAST AND THE PRESSURE RIDGE TO THE NORTH. THE GFS IS MORE PRONOUNCED WITH THIS MOISTURE COMPARED TO THE NAM. FORECASTED CHANCE POPS IN THE EAST PART. USED THE GUIDANCE CONSENSUS FOR THE TEMPERATURE FORECAST. && .LONG TERM /SATURDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY/... THE MEDIUM RANGE MODELS SHOW TROPICAL CYCLONE SANDY MOVING NORTHWARD AHEAD OF THE UPPER-LEVEL TROUGH MOVING INTO THE EASTERN PART OF THE NATION. THE ECMWF HAS BEEN PERSISTENT IN ITS PATH WHICH IS MORE WEST THAN THE OTHER MODELS BUT STILL KEEPS THE CENTER WELL EAST OF THE FORECAST AREA. THE COLD FRONT APPROACHING THE FORECAST AREA WILL BECOME DIFFUSE BECAUSE OF THE NORTHERLY FLOW ASSOCIATED WITH THE CIRCULATION OF SANDY. THE LACK OF CONVERGENCE INTO THE FRONT PLUS THE MODEL FORECAST OF DEEPER MOISTURE ASSOCIATED WITH SANDY STAYING EAST OF THE AREA SUPPORTS JUST LOW POPS. BREEZY NORTHERLY WINDS ARE EXPECTED SATURDAY...ESPECIALLY ACROSS THE EASTERN MIDLANDS. THE COOLEST AIR OF THE SEASON SO FAR WILL CIRCULATE INTO THE AREA BEHIND THE COLD FRONT FOR EARLY NEXT WEEK. THE GFS ENSEMBLE MEANS SUPPORT LOWS IN THE MIDDLE AND UPPER 30S. && .AVIATION /10Z THURSDAY THROUGH MONDAY/... NEAR SURFACE MOISTURE HAS CONTINUED TO INCREASE WITH DEWPOINTS IN THE MID TO UPPER 50S. PATCHY FOG ALREADY DEVELOPING AGS/OGB WITH IFR VSBYS. HI-RES HRRR AND SREF INDICATE REDUCED VSBYS SO HIGHER THAN NORMAL CONFIDENCE IN RESTRICTIONS AT TERMINALS THROUGH THE PREDAWN HOURS. IFR VSBYS TO DROP TO LIFR AFTER 08Z-09Z OGB/AGS WHILE CAE/CUB START VFR AND DROP TO IFR AFTER 10Z WITH POSSIBLE LIFR VSBYS AT TIMES BUT LOWER CONFIDENCE IN LIFR AT THIS TIME. FOG SHOULD DISPERSE AFTER 15Z AS NORTHEAST-EASTERLY WINDS PICK UP TO AROUND 10 MPH AND MIXING TAKES PLACE. SOME AFTERNOON CUMULUS BUT NO RESTRICTIONS TO CIGS. EXTENDED AVIATION OUTLOOK...INCREASING CONFIDENCE IN RESTRICTIONS FRIDAY MORNING IN FOG AND STRATUS. INCREASING WINDS AND GUSTS EXPECTED THIS WEEKEND ASSOCIATED WITH INCREASED PRESSURE GRADIENT AS SANDY LIFTS NORTHWARD IN THE ATLANTIC. && .CAE WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... SC...NONE. GA...NONE. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS NORTHERN INDIANA
1132 AM EDT THU OCT 25 2012 .UPDATE... ONLY TWEAK TO PREVIOUS GRIDS WAS TO ADJUST HOURLY TEMPERATURE TRENDS MAINLY FOR THIS EVENING BASED ON UPSTREAM OBSERVATIONS IN ASSOCIATION THE COLD FRONT PASSAGE. TRIED TO INCORPORATE A NAM12/PREVIOUS FORECAST BLEND TO SHOW A BIT SHARPER OF A TEMP/DEW POINT DROP OFF WITH FRONT. OTHERWISE...OTHER FORECAST ELEMENTS FOR PERIOD ONE STILL APPEAR TO BE ON TRACK WITH HIGHS IN THE MID TO UPPER 70S. HRRR HINTING AT SOME CONVECTIVE DEVELOPMENT ALONG THE COLD FRONT ACROSS NORTHWEST INDIANA THIS EVENING...BUT STILL SOMEWHAT SUSPICIOUS OF THIS SOLUTION WITH INSTABILITY EXPECTED TO BE FAIRLY LIMITED UNTIL BECOMING MORE ELEVATED IN NATURE BEHIND THE FRONT. && .MARINE... SOUTH WINDS WILL CONTINUE TO INCREASE THIS AFTERNOON WITH LATEST MICHIGAN CITY OBSERVATIONS ALREADY INDICATING SOUTH GUSTS INTO THE 25 TO 30 KNOT RANGE. CANNOT COMPLETELY RULE OUT A FEW GUSTS TO NEAR GALES THIS AFTERNOON. OF GREATER CONCERN IS EARLY THIS EVENING IN ASSOCIATION WITH THE FRONTAL PASSAGE. A NARROW BUT STRONG CORRIDOR OF SURFACE PRESSURE RISES BEHIND THE FRONT SHOULD INDUCE A PERIOD OF WEST GUSTS TO NEAR GALES THIS EVENING...ESPECIALLY IN THE 00Z TO 04Z TIMEFRAME. HAVE HELD OFF ON ANY UPGRADED HEADLINES AT THIS TIME...BUT WILL NEED TO CONSIDER AT LEAST MENTION OF A FEW GUSTS TO GALE FORCE IN POSSIBLE NEARSHORE FORECAST AMENDMENTS THIS AFTERNOON. && .PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 703 AM EDT THU OCT 25 2012/ AVIATION.../12Z TAFS/ DVLPG SFC LOW ALONG STNRY FRONT OVER NE IA THIS MORNING WILL DEEPEN/INTENSIFY AS IT LIFTS NE TODAY CAUSING STNRY FRONT TO SURGE EASTWARD AS A CDFNT. STRONG SWLY WIND FIELD IN PLACE OVER THE AREA ATTM WITH KIWX VWP INDICATING 40KT IN LOWEST GATE AT 2KFT. THESE STRONG WINDS WILL MIX DOWN DURING THE DAY WITH SFC GUSTS 27-32KT EXPECTED... HIGHEST AT SBN. OTRWS... VFR CONDITIONS THROUGH THE DAY WITH JUST SCT CU. CDFNT EXPECTED TO MOVE THROUGH SBN BY 04Z AND FWA BY 08Z FOLLOWED BY A PERIOD OF SHOWERS WITH AVIATION CONDITIONS LOWERING AT LEAST TO MVFR AND PSBLY IFR. INSTABILITY WILL BE LIMITED BUT PRBLY SUFFICIENT FOR A FEW TSTMS AS FAR EAST AS NWRN INDIANA SO INCLUDED VCTS IN SBN TAF. WNDSHFT ON CDFNT WILL BE ABRUPT FROM SW-NW WITH STRONG LOW LEVEL CAA PROMOTING POST FRONTAL GUSTS THROUGH THE NIGHT. PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 410 AM EDT THU OCT 25 2012/ SHORT TERM... TODAY THROUGH FRIDAY NIGHT... THE FORECAST CHALLENGES THIS PERIOD INCLUDE THE CHANCES FOR A RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE AT SOUTH BEND TODAY AND THE TIMING OF A STRONG COLD FRONT THURSDAY NIGHT ALONG WITH ASSOCIATED PRECIPITATION. HIGHS WEDNESDAY WERE RATHER UNIFORM AROUND 78F DEGREES. ALTHOUGH A WARM AND MOIST FLOW SHOULD CONTINUE FROM THE SOUTH AND SOUTHWEST TODAY... SOMEWHAT COOLER AIR UNDER 925 MB SHOULD SPREAD INTO THE REGION IN THE LOW LEVELS. HAVE KEPT HIGHS A LITTLE LOWER THAN YESTERDAY... GENERALLY 75 TO 77 DEGREES...WHICH SHOULD KEEP THE TEMPERATURE BELOW THE RECORD HIGH OF 80 DEGREES AT SOUTH BEND. A STRONG COLD FRONT WILL MOVE ACROSS THE FORECAST AREA THURSDAY NIGHT. SOME QUESTION WHETHER EARLY STORMS WILL BE SURFACE BASED...INCREASING THE RISK FOR SEVERE STORMS WITH HIGH WINDS GIVEN MOMENTUM TRANSFER OF 50 TO 55 KNOTS IN THE 925/850 MB LEVEL. HOWEVER..THE SUBSIDENCE INVERSION AND MID LEVEL WARMING HAS INCREASED SIGNIFICANTLY UPSTREAM AS INDICATED ON THE LINCOLN RAOB. CURRENT THINKING IS THAT ANY STORMS WILL BE ELEVATED AND WILL BE POST FRONTAL...LIMITING GREATLY SEVERE WEATHER POTENTIAL. GIVEN THE STRENGTH OF THE FRONT WHICH INCLUDES ABOUT A 25 DEGREE TEMPERATURE DROP IN THE FIRST 100 MILES...TEMPERATURES WILL DROP TO BETWEEN 41F AND 43F OVER FAR SW AND WEST AREA. LASTLY...KEPT LAKE EFFECT/LAKE ENHANCED SHOWERS OUT. WINDS VEER TOO FAR TO THE NORTHEAST FRI NGT. LONG TERM.../SAT-WED/ UPR LEVEL TROF OVER THE ROCKIES THIS MORNING WILL MOVE EAST TO THE MS VALLEY AND DEEPEN A BIT BY SAT AS A SERIES OF MID LEVEL SHRTWVS MOVE THROUGH THE BASE OF THE TROF. MODELS HAVE TRENDED A LITTLE FASTER WITH SHRTWV EXPECTED TO MOVE THROUGH OUR AREA SAT... THUS HAVE LOWERED POPS IN THIS PERIOD...ESPECIALLY IN THE AFTN. MEDIUM RANGE MODELS HANDLING OF THE TROF MOVG INTO THE GRTLKS AND ITS INTERACTION WITH WRN ATLANTIC HURRICANE SANDY HAS BEEN ERRATIC... BUT THERE IS FAIR AGREEMENT ON 00Z RUNS THAT A RATHER DEEP CLOSED/STACKED LOW WILL FORM OR MOVE INTO THE LWR GRTLKS EARLY NEXT WEEK WITH IMPLICATION THAT WRN FRINGE OF ITS PRECIP SHIELD AND/OR LAKE EFFECT OFF LAKE MICHIGAN WITH N-NW LOW LEVEL FLOW WOULD IMPACT OUR AREA. STILL PLENTY OF UNCERTAINTY GIVEN POOR RUN-RUN MODEL CONTINUITY AND CONSIDERABLE DIFFERENCES AMONG VARIOUS MODELS ON DETAILS/EVOLUTION OF THE LOW... THUS BLEND OF MODELS AND PREVIOUS FCST YIELDING JUST SLIGHT CHC POPS WAS FOLLOWED WITH ONLY COSMETIC ADJUSTMENTS FOR DAYS6-7. WITH LITTLE MOVEMENT AND GRADUAL DEEPENING OF UPR TROF OVER THE GRTLKS THROUGH THE LONG TERM PERIOD... TEMPS SHOULD BE BLO NORMAL WITH LITTLE DAILY CHANGE IN HIGHS/LOWS. FCST HIGHS GENERALLY IN THE M-U40S AND LOWS IN THE L-M30S EACH DAY. && .IWX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... IN...NONE. MI...NONE. OH...NONE. LM...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY UNTIL 6 AM EDT SATURDAY FOR LMZ043-046. && $$ SHORT TERM...SKIPPER LONG TERM...JT AVIATION...JT UPDATE...MARSILI MARINE...MARSILI
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION...UPDATED
NWS BALTIMORE MD/WASHINGTON DC
754 AM EDT THU OCT 25 2012 .SYNOPSIS... HIGH PRESSURE WILL PERSIST ALONG THE NORTHEASTERN SEABOARD INTO THE WEEKEND. A COLD FRONT WILL APPROACH THE MID ATLANTIC FROM THE WEST FRIDAY NIGHT. THIS COLD FRONT WILL STALL THROUGH THE WEEKEND AS WHAT IS CURRENTLY HURRICANE SANDY TRACKS NORTH OFF THE EASTERN SEABOARD. && .NEAR TERM /THROUGH TONIGHT/... UPPER RIDGE POLEWARD OF HURRICANE SANDY WILL CONTINUE TO AMPLIFY OVER THE ERN CONUS TDA. AT THE SFC...HIPRES OVER COASTAL NEW ENGLAND WILL BUILD SWWD ALONG THE MID-ATLANTIC COAST. LLVL ELY SURGE ASSOCIATED WITH THE SWD-BUILDING HIGH HAS ADVECTED MARINE AIR/LOW CLOUDS INLAND OVNGT. OVC STRATUS DECK...WHICH HAS REACHED WEST OF BALTIMORE AND ANNAPOLIS /AS CAPTURED BY THE 07Z 11-3.9U SAT IMAGERY/ WILL EXPAND WWD TOWARD THE BLUE RIDGE THRU DAYBREAK. GIVEN LOWER SUN ANGLE PRESENT IN LATE OCT...IT MAY TAKE THE ENTIRE MRNG FOR STRATUS DECK TO ERODE...POSSIBLY LONGER INTO THE AFTN TOWARD THE CHSPK BAY. WEST OF THE STRATUS...MSTLY SUNNY SKIES WILL YIELD MAX TEMPS IN UPPER 70S TO NEAR 80F ACROSS CENTRAL VA AND POTOMAC HIGHLANDS...WHILE TEMPS MAY STRUGGLE TO REACH 70F IN NORTH-CENTRAL MD. SFC HIPRES WILL CONTINUE TO RIDGE SWD TOWARD THE MID-ATLANTIC COAST TNGT. WITH PERSISTENT ELY FLOW...MARINE LAYER WILL BE WEDGED IN EAST OF THE MTS. SATURATED BOUNDARY LAYER AND SHALLOW ISENTROPIC LIFT BENEATH SUBSIDENCE INVERSION SHOULD SUPPORT DEVELOPMENT OF STRATUS...DRIZZLE AND FOG OVNGT EAST OF THE BLUE RIDGE AND IN THE SHENANDOAH VLY. && .SHORT TERM /FRIDAY THROUGH SATURDAY/... COMBINATION OF SFC HIGH CENTERED OVER NEW ENGLAND COAST AND HURRICANE SANDY MOVING NORTH FROM THE BAHAMAS WILL PRODUCE AN ONSHORE FLOW FRIDAY AND SATURDAY. FRIDAY...LOW CLOUDS AND DRIZZLE/LIGHT RAIN WILL PERSIST INTO THE MORNING...THEN MIX OUT MIDDAY THROUGH THE AFTERNOON. LATE OCT ONSHORE FLOW OF 5 TO 10 MPH WOULD PROBABLY NORMALLY RESULT IN LOW CLOUDS/DRIZZLE ALL DAY. HOWEVER...IT LOOKS LIKE THE FETCH AROUND THE HIGH IS PLENTY DRY DESPITE COMING OFF THE ATLANTIC...SO EROSION OF THE CLOUDS SHOULD OCCUR. MAX TEMPS LOW 70S. FRIDAY NIGHT AND SATURDAY...GOOD CONSENSUS ON COLD FRONT APPROACHING THE CENTRAL APPALACHIANS AND SANDY EXPANDING IN SIZE. ONSHORE FLOW INCREASES TO 10 TO 15 MPH. LITTLE IN THE WAY OF PRECIP...PERHAPS SOME RAIN BLUE RIDGE AND WEST. && .LONG TERM /SATURDAY NIGHT THROUGH WEDNESDAY/... MUCH UNCERTAINTY EXISTS IN THE INTERPLAY OF THE COLD FRONT/TROUGH DIGGING THROUGH THE MIDWEST AND SANDY FOR THIS WEEKEND AND WELL INTO NEXT WEEK. NHC FORECAST IS STILL FOR A POST-TROPICAL TRANSITION AS IT MOVES INTO COOLER WATER NORTH OF HATTERAS. WHETHER THE HYBRID SYSTEM THEN PHASES WITH THE UPR TROUGH AND IMPACTS THE MID ATLANTIC /PER 00Z ECMWF/ OR IMPACTS NEW ENGLAND /PER 00Z GFS/ OR SOMETHING IN BETWEEN REMAINS THE BIG QUESTION. EITHER WAY COLD CANADIAN AIR WILL BE SPILLING IN WITH THE TROUGH TO THE WEST AND THERE IS A CHANCE FOR SNOW /WITH POSSIBLE ACCUMULATIONS/ OVER THE ALLEGHENY HIGHLANDS STARTING SUNDAY NIGHT. THERE IS STILL A WIDE RANGE OF POSSIBLE IMPACTS TO THE LWX CWA SUNDAY INTO THE MIDDLE PART OF NEXT WEEK. PLEASE SEE FUTURE FORECASTS FOR FURTHER DETAILS. && .AVIATION /08Z THURSDAY THROUGH MONDAY/... AS OF 1145Z...EASTERLY LOW-LEVEL FLOW HAS PRODUCED A SHALLOW STRATUS DECK WITH IFR CIGS. THIS DECK HAS MADE ITS WAY WESTWARD...COVERING ALL OF THE TERMINALS EAST OF THE BLUE RIDGE. AND MRB IS EXPECTED TO GO DOWN SHORTLY...BY 1230Z...BUT CHO SHOULD REMAIN VFR. THE BEST MODEL THAT IS HANDLING THE LOW CIGS THIS MORNING IS THE 3KM HRRR. QUICK PEEK AT THE LATEST 09Z HRRR SHOWS LOW CIGS LOCKED IN THROUGH AT LEAST 18Z...ALTHO THERE SHOULD BE SOME LIFTING IN CIG BASE AS THE MORNING PROGRESSES. BUT SHALLOW NATURE VS WEAK OCT SUN SUGGESTS THE HRRR MIGHT BE RIGHT. FOR NOW...WILL KEEP SOME IMPROVEMENT FOR VFR IN TAFS AFTER 17Z AT IAD/DCA...AND 18Z AT BWI/MTN. MVFR VSBYS WILL PERSIST THIS MORNING AS WELL ASSOCIATED WITH THE STRATUS. PREVIOUS DISCUSSION CONTINUES... WITH ELY FLOW PERSISTING INTO TNGT...STRATUS SHOULD REDEVELOP DURING THE LATE EVE/OVNGT. CONFIDENCE FOR IFR CIGS AND DZ AT ALL TERMINALS RELATIVELY HIGH FOR 24 HOURS OUT. ONSHORE FLOW 5 TO 10 KT AND IFR CIGS ERODE FRIDAY MIDDAY AND AFTERNOON. FLOW INCREASES FRIDAY NIGHT AND SATURDAY WITH GUSTS PERHAPS TO 15 KT. MUCH UNCERTAINTY THIS WEEKEND INTO NEXT WEEK WITH THE TRACK OF WHAT IS CURRENTLY HURRICANE SANDY. && .MARINE... ELY FLOW 5-10 KT TDA AND TNGT. EXPECT AREAS OF DZ TO DEVELOP LATE THIS EVE AND OVNGT. EASTERLY FLOW WILL PERSIST THROUGH FRIDAY BEFORE TURNING NORTHEASTERLY. SCA MAY BE WARRANTED SATURDAY NIGHT AS FLOW INCREASES. SANDY WILL BE MOVING NORTHWARD EAST OF THE COASTLINE SUNDAY AND MONDAY. THERE ARE MANY UNCERTAINTIES WITH THE TRACK BUT GALE WRNGS MAY BE WARRANTED SUNDAY NIGHT AND MONDAY. && .TIDES/COASTAL FLOODING... WATER LEVELS WILL CONTINUE TO SLOWLY TO RISE AS EASTERLY FLOW SLOWLY INCREASES THROUGH SATURDAY. WAXING MOON WILL BE FULL SUNDAY... MAXIMIZING THE IMPACTS. MINOR THRESHOLDS MAY BE REACHED BY FRIDAY AFTERNOON. POTENTIAL FOR MORE SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS SUNDAY AND MONDAY AS WHAT IS NOW HURRICANE SANDY IS FCST TO BECOME POST TROPICAL WHILE TRACKING NORTH. PLEASE MONITOR NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER PRODUCTS AND OUR HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK FOR UPDATES ON THIS SITUATION. && .CLIMATE... THE HIGH TEMPERATURE OF 84F YDA...24 OCT...AT DCA TIED THE DAILY RECORD HIGH SET IN 2001. IT WAS ALSO THE LATEST DAY IN THE CALENDAR YEAR TO REACH 84F SINCE 24 OCT 2001. && .EQUIPMENT... STARTING 18Z TDA...UPPER AIR OBSERVATIONS WILL BE CONDUCTED EVERY 6-H AT ALL NWS CONUS RAOB SITES...INCLUDING HERE AT WFO LWX...TO SUPPORT FCST OPERATIONS FOR SANDY. && .LWX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... DC...NONE. MD...NONE. VA...NONE. WV...NONE. MARINE...NONE. && $$ UPDATE...SMZ FOR AVIATION PREV DISC...KLEIN/BAJ
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS TWIN CITIES/CHANHASSEN MN
622 AM CDT THU OCT 25 2012 .DISCUSSION... PRIMARY FORECAST CONCERNS THIS MORNING ARE PRECIP TYPE AND AMOUNTS ASSOCIATED WITH A SHORTWAVE TROUGH EJECTING OUT OF THE ROCKIES. AT THE LOWER LEVELS...MOISTURE TRANSPORT OVERRUNNING THE SURFACE BOUNDARY CONTINUES TO SPAWN CONVECTION FROM SOUTHERN MINNESOTA INTO WEST CENTRAL WI. EMBEDDED THUNDER WILL CONTINUE TO BE POSSIBLE ACROSS THE EASTERN HALF OF THE FORECAST AREA THIS MORNING WHERE ELEVATED INSTABILITY EXISTS. MEANWHILE...THE ATTENDANT DEFORMATION SNOW BAND HAS ENTERED WEST CENTRAL MN...AND WILL GRADUALLY EXPAND EASTWARD ACROSS THE AREA OVER THE NEXT 12 HOURS AS THE TROUGH SHIFTS EAST. HAVE SPED UP THE TRANSITION OF RAIN TO SNOW...PER CURRENT TRENDS AND NAM/GFS/RAP/SREF/ARW BUFKIT PROFILES...WHICH INDICATE SNOW MIXING IN WITH THE RAIN OVER THE REMAINDER OF CENTRAL MN BETWEEN 15Z AND 18Z...AND IN WEST CENTRAL WI BETWEEN 18Z AND 21Z. THE HRRR AND HI-RESW-NMMEAST SIMULATED PRECIP TYPE PROGS COMPLEMENT THIS THINKING AS WELL. SNOWFALL AMOUNTS STILL APPEAR TO TOP OUT FROM 1 TO 2 INCHES OVER WEST CENTRAL MN...WITH NOT MORE THAN A TRACE EXPECTED TO THE EAST DUE TO THE EXPECTATION THAT PRECIP WILL BE SHUTTING OFF AROUND OR SHORTLY AFTER SNOW DEVELOPS. SURFACE TEMPERATURES WILL REMAIN STEADY OR GRADUALLY FALL THIS AFTERNOON AS STRONG COLD ADVECTION ENSUES IN THE WAKE OF THE TROUGH. ACCOMPANYING NORTHWEST WINDS OF 15 TO 25 MPH WILL CREATE QUITE BRISK CONDITIONS THIS AFTERNOON...AS WIND CHILLS DECREASE INTO THE 20S. PRECIPITATION SHOULD COME TO AN END BY THIS EVENING...WITH MOSTLY CLEAR SKIES EXPECTED FOR TONIGHT. TEMPERATURES WILL FALL INTO THE 25 TO 30 DEGREE RANGE FOR THE MOST PART. CONTINUED COLD TEMPERATURES WILL PERSIST FOR FRIDAY...WITH HIGHS ONLY REACHING THE UPPER 30S AND LOWER 40S. BROAD SURFACE HIGH PRESSURE AND MID LEVEL TROUGHING WILL TRANSLATE TO CONTINUED BELOW NORMAL TEMPERATURES THROUGH THE WEEKEND. HIGHS WILL MAINLY RANGE FROM AROUND 40 TO 45 DEGREES ON SATURDAY AND SUNDAY...WITH SUB-FREEZING LOWS. FRIDAY NIGHT APPEARS TO BE THE COLDEST NIGHT OF THE WEEKEND...WHEN READINGS ARE EXPECTED TO DIP TO BETWEEN 20 AND 25 DEGREES. MORE CLOUD COVER AND EVEN LIGHT SNOW WILL BE POSSIBLE FOR SATURDAY NIGHT ACROSS WEST CENTRAL AND SOUTH CENTRAL MN...AS A WEAK MID LEVEL WAVE CLIPS THE SOUTHERN HALF OF THE STATE. TEMPERATURES WILL SLOWLY MODERATE AT THE START OF THE UPCOMING WEEK...WITH HIGHS IN THE MID 40S TO LOWER 50S BY WEDNESDAY. && .AVIATION.../12Z TAF ISSUANCE/ THE MAIN AVIATION CONCERNS ARE WHEN THE TRANSITION OF -RA TO -SN OCCURS ACROSS EASTERN MN OVER THE NEXT FEW HRS...AND HOW LONG IT WILL STAY -SN...OR HAVE A MIXTURE OF RAIN/SNOW BY 18Z. A LARGE CONVECTIVE BAND OF SHRA/TSRA HAS MOVED OFF TO THE EAST OF THE FA...WITH ONLY EAU HAVING A SMALL CHC OF CONTINUING VCTS BETWEEN 12-13Z. THE ZONE WHERE -RA CHG OVER TO SNOW IS NEAR RWF TO STC...AND THE LOCAL DUAL-POL CC INDICATED THAT THE FREEZING LEVEL HAS FALLEN OVER THE PAST HR OR TWO. STARTED OUT WITH ONLY SNOW AT STC/RWF...WITH RNH/MSP CHG OVER BETWEEN 15-16Z...AND EAU ARND 18-20Z. MODEL SOUNDINGS INDICATED THAT WHEN THE ATMOSPHERIC COLUMN SATURATED BELOW ZERO...IT REMAINS BELOW ZERO THRU THE AFTN AT AXN/RWF/RHN/MSP. THIS WOULD MEAN THAT ONCE THE LT SNOW BEGAN IT WOULD CONTINUE AND NOT CHG OVER. HOWEVER...SFC TEMPS WILL RANGE FROM 34 TO 38 DEGREES BY 18Z...MAKING FOR A MIXTURE MORE LIKELY. THEREFORE...CONTINUED WITH A MIXTURE OF BOTH -SN/-RA AT RHN/MSP WHERE THE PRECIPITATION WILL LINGER INTO THE EARLY AFTN. RWF/STC WILL LIKELY SEE THE PRECIPITATION END BEFORE THE SWITCH OVER BACK TO -SN/-RA DEVELOPS. WINDS WILL BE FROM THE NNW/NW DURING THE DAY...WITH GUSTS OVER 22-26 KTS. EXPECT SOME DECREASE IN THE OVERALL SPEED DURING THE EVENING...ALONG WITH THE GUSTY WINDS ENDING. KMSP... HIGH END IFR/LOW END MVFR CIGS WILL CONTINUE THRU 18Z...WITH A PERIOD OF MAINLY -RA THRU 15Z...THEN CHG OVER TO -SN...OR A MIXTURE OF -SN/-RA BETWEEN 15-16Z. MOST OF THE PRECIPITATION SHOULD TAPER OFF AFT 18Z...WITH CIGS RISING TO VFR AFT 21Z. GUSTY WINDS WILL CONTINUE DURING THE DAYTIME HRS...WITH A FEW GUSTS OVER 24 KTS. WINDS WILL REMAIN FROM THE WNW OVERNIGHT. /OUTLOOK FOR KMSP/ FRI AFTN...VFR. WINDS WNW 10 G 20KTS. SAT...VFR. WINDS LGT AND VRB. SUN...MVFR/VFR. CHC -RASN. WINDS SE AT 5 KTS. ..JLT.. && .MPX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... MN...NONE. WI...NONE. && $$ LS/JLT
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NWS BURLINGTON VT
1000 AM EDT THU OCT 25 2012 .SYNOPSIS... A BUILDING RIDGE OF HIGH PRESSURE BOTH ALOFT AND AT THE SURFACE WILL RESULT IN DRY CONDITIONS AND MUCH ABOVE NORMAL TEMPERATURES FOR THE REMINDER OF THIS WEEK. BY THE WEEKEND...AN APPROACHING COLD FRONT WILL INCREASE THE CHANCES FOR PRECIPITATION...ALONG WITH COOLER TEMPERATURES. THE REMNANTS OF TROPICAL SYSTEM SANDY COULD IMPACT THE NORTH COUNTRY WITH RAIN AND WIND EARLY NEXT WEEK. && .NEAR TERM /UNTIL 6 PM THIS EVENING/... AS OF 1000 AM EDT THURSDAY...MINOR UPDATE TO SKY COVER THROUGH TODAY TO ACCT FOR CURRENT OBSERVATIONAL DATA AND LATEST MID-LVL RH PROGS....WHICH WOULD OFFER PTLY SUNNY ERN VT/SLV...AND MOSTLY CLOUDY DACKS/CHVLY TODAY. ALSO OPTED TO CARRY AN OUTSIDE CHC OF A SPRINKLE OR VERY LIGHT SHOWER ACROSS THE FAR NORTH...MAINLY NRN SLV TODAY PER HRRR DATA AND RADAR SHOWING SOME LIGHT RETURNS NORTH OF LAKE ONTARIO AS OF 14Z. PCPN AMNTS NEGLIGIBLE. REST OF FCST IN GOOD SHAPE WITH HIGHS 50S TO AROUND 60 EAST...AND TO NEAR 70 SLV. && .SHORT TERM /6 PM THIS EVENING THROUGH SATURDAY/... AS OF 400 AM EDT THURSDAY...TONIGHT...SOUNDINGS SHOW RH DECREASING ACRS OUR FA...AS LARGE SCALE SUBSIDENCE DEVELOPS FROM BUILDING RIDGE. IN ADDITION...SOUTH TO SOUTHWEST FLOW WL DEVELOP...WHICH WL HELP PUSH DEEPER RH/MOISTURE NORTH OF OUR CWA. IN ADDITION...SOUNDINGS SHOW GOOD BL MIXING TONIGHT AS GRADIENT INCREASES FROM APPROACHING COLD FRONT...ESPECIALLY CV/SLV. THIS WL HELP KEEP TEMPS IN THE U40S TO L50S AT BTV...WITH MUCH COOLER TEMPS IN DEEPER MTN VALLEYS...WHERE WINDS WL DECOUPLE AND SKIES WL CLR. THINKING M/U30S PARTS OF THE NECK AND L/M 40S DACKS/CENTRAL VT. MID/UPPER LVL RIDGE CONTS TO BUILD ACRS OUR CWA ON FRIDAY AND SHIFTS TO OUR EAST BY SATURDAY...AS TROF/COLD FRONT APPROACH OUR FA. THE COMBINATION OF WARM SOUTHERLY WINDS AND PROGGED 85H TEMPS NEAR 12C AN 925MB TEMPS OF 15C....SUPPORT HIGHS IN THE M60S NECK/MTNS TO M70S CV/SLV ON FRIDAY. NEAR RECORD HIGH TEMPS WL BE POSSIBLE ON FRIDAY ACRS THE NORTH COUNTRY. PLEASE SEE CLIMO SECTION BLW FOR RECORDS. SOUNDINGS SHOW DEEP DRY LAYER...WHICH WL RESULT IN PLENTY OF SUNSHINE ACRS OUR FA ON FRIDAY. NAM CONTS TO SHOW LLVL RH INCREASE ACRS OUR CWA ON SOUTH TO SOUTHEAST FLW EARLY SATURDAY MORNING...WITH THE POTENTIAL FOR A LOW STRATUS DECK DEVELOPING. MEANWHILE...GFS IS MUCH DRIER WITH RH PROFILES...AND KEEPS BEST RH ASSOCIATED WITH APPROACHING COLD FRONT. NAM/GFS IN GOOD AGREEMENT WITH POSITION OF SFC BOUNDARY ACRS NORTHERN NY BY 18Z SAT AND ENTERING THE CV BY 00Z SUNDAY. GIVEN...RIBBON OF BETTER 850 TO 500MB RH AND SOME AREAS OF ENHANCED UVVS...WL MENTION LIKELY POPS WESTERN CWA AND CHC ELSEWHERE. LLVL THERMAL GRADIENT TIGHTENS ACRS OUR FA ON SATURDAY...WITH TEMPS RANGING FROM THE 60S EAST TO 50S WEST. && .LONG TERM /SATURDAY NIGHT THROUGH WEDNESDAY/... AS OF 400 AM EDT THURSDAY...BLOCKING PATTERN OVER THE CENTRAL ATLANTIC TO HAVE AN IMPACT ON OUR WEATHER IN THE EXTENDED PERIOD FROM SATURDAY NIGHT THROUGH THURSDAY. AT THIS TIME IT APPEARS THE UPPER FLOW WILL BE BLOCKED THROUGH MUCH OF THE EXTENDED PERIOD AND THIS MEANS IT WILL BE HARD TO HAVE WEATHER SYSTEMS PUSH EASTWARD. THIS WILL HAVE PARTICULAR INTEREST FOR OUR AREA AS THIS MAY DRIVE WHERE HURRICANE SANDY GOES. WHILE THERE ARE STILL DIFFERING SCENARIOS AS TO HURRICANE SANDY`S PATH...ONE THING FOR SURE IS THAT IT WILL MOVE NORTHWARD AND PHASE IN SOME WAY SHAPE OR FORM WITH UPSTREAM UPPER LEVEL TROUGH. IT LOOKS LIKE THE MAIN TIME PERIOD THE IMPACTS OF THIS SYSTEM WILL STILL BE MONDAY AND TUESDAY. THUS THE IDEA OF RAIN LIKELY IN THE GOING FORECAST FOR MONDAY AND TUESDAY LOOKS GOOD AND WILL NOT STRAY FROM THAT AT THIS POINT. GIVEN THE LONGER DURATION OF RAIN AND THE MOISTURE BEING TROPICAL IN NATURE...SYSTEM WILL HAVE TO BE WATCHED FOR ITS HEAVY RAIN POTENTIAL. IN ADDITION...SYSTEM IS STRONG ENOUGH THAT GUSTY WINDS WILL ALSO EXIST AND ATTENTION WILL BE PAID TO THE WEST SLOPES OF THE GREEN MOUNTAINS AS THE EXPECTED TRACK OF THIS SYSTEM WOULD ENHANCE THE POTENTIAL FOR DOWNSLOPE WINDS IN THIS AREA. WILL UPDATE THE HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK TO INDICATE THE POTENTIAL REMAINS FOR HEAVY RAIN AND GUSTY WINDS EARLY NEXT WEEK. SYSTEM WILL BE SLOW TO CLEAR THE AREA...SO GOING FORECAST OF A CHANCE OF SHOWERS FOR WEDNESDAY LOOKS GOOD. COULD EASILY SEE THAT THREAT OF PRECIPITATION CONTINUING RIGHT THROUGH THE END OF NEXT WEEK. && .AVIATION /14Z THURSDAY THROUGH MONDAY/... THROUGH 12Z FRIDAY...VFR CONDITIONS GENERALLY EXPECTED THROUGH THE PERIOD. THE ONLY EXCEPTION TO THIS WILL BE AT KRUT WHERE MVFR CEILINGS WILL EXIST DURING THE MORNING HOURS...OTHERWISE ANY CEILINGS WILL GENERALLY BE AROUND 5000 FEET TODAY. SKIES SHOULD GENERALLY BE CLEAR TONIGHT WITH SOME CLOUDS AROUND 1000 FEET...BUT SHOULD NOT BE ENOUGH TO CALL A CEILING. WINDS WILL INCREASE OUT OF THE SOUTH THIS MORNING...BUT SPEEDS WILL GENERALLY BE UNDER 15 KNOTS. OUTLOOK 12Z FRIDAY THROUGH MONDAY...VFR CONDITIONS WL PREVAIL THRU 00Z SUNDAY...BEFORE APPROACHING SFC BOUNDARY INCREASES THE CLOUDS AND CHCS FOR SHOWERS SAT NIGHT INTO SUNDAY. IN ADDITION...SOUTHEAST FLOW AROUND HIGH PRESSURE...MAY PRODUCE SOME LOW CLOUDS AND MVFR CONDITIONS AT MPV SATURDAY NIGHT/SUNDAY MORNING. THE HEAVIER SHOWERS ON SUNDAY WL BE CAPABLE OF PRODUCING BRIEF PERIODS OF MVFR IN LOW CIGS/VIS. COASTAL LOW MAY BRING MVFR/IFR COND WITH STRONG WIND COND...WITH POSSIBLE LLWS. && .CLIMATE... BELOW ARE RECORD HIGH TEMPS FOR FRIDAY 10/26/12: BTV 75 1963 MSS 72 1963 MPV 74 1991 && .BTV WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... VT...NONE. NY...NONE. && $$ SYNOPSIS...TABER NEAR TERM...JMG/TABER SHORT TERM...TABER LONG TERM...EVENSON AVIATION...EVENSON/LOCONTO CLIMATE...WFO BTV
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NWS SAN JOAQUIN VALLEY - HANFORD CA
200 PM PDT THU OCT 25 2012 .SYNOPSIS... WEAK HIGH PRESSURE HAS BEGUN TO MOVE OVER THE REGION. GENERALLY MOSTLY CLEAR SKIES ARE EXPECTED THROUGH THE WEEKEND...EXCEPT PATCHY VALLEY FOG IS POSSIBLE TONIGHT AND INTO FRIDAY MORNING. TEMPERATURES WILL GRADUALLY WARM TO A FEW DEGREES ABOVE AVERAGE BY THE WEEKEND. && .DISCUSSION... VISIBLE SATELLITE IMAGERY IS SHOWING LOW LEVEL CIRCULATION OFF THE MONTEREY BAY COAST AND SLOWLY DRIFTING SOUTHWARD. HIGH-RES RAPID REFRESH(HRRR) IS SHOWING DECREASING CLOUD COVER OVER THE VALLEY AS THE LOW LEVEL CIRCULATION TRAVELS DUE SOUTH AND FURTHER OFFSHORE. CURRENT TIMING HAS THE VALLEY CLEARING OUT JUST BEFORE SUNSET BASED ON BOTH HRRR AND SREF SOLUTIONS. AT THIS POINT...THE BROAD CYCLONIC CIRCULATION OVER THE WEST COAST CONTINUES TO SHIFT EAST WITH A HIGH PRESSURE RIDGE AXIS MOVING CLOSER TO THE WEST COAST ON FRIDAY. YET...SHORT RANGE MODELS DO NOT RELAX THE NORTHWESTERLY FLOW ALOFT UNTIL AFTER FRIDAY AFTERNOON. THEREFORE...WITH LOCALLY BREEZY WINDS ALOFT...FOG AND EXTREMELY COLD SURFACE TEMPERATURES WILL NOT BE FAVORED OVER THE SAN JOAQUIN VALLEY FRIDAY MORNING. HOWEVER...WILL KEEP A MENTION OF PATCHY FOG OVER THE SAN JOAQUIN VALLEY FOR MORE RURAL AREAS THAT HAVE LESS OF A THRESHOLD TO FOG- UP. IN ADDITION...TEMPERATURES WILL DROP OVERNIGHT...LOWER THEN THURSDAY MORNING BUT NOT BY MUCH AS LOCAL WINDS WILL CONTINUE TO BLOW FOR ONE MORE NIGHT. AFTER FRIDAY...THE GENERAL TREND IS FOR CLEAR CONDITIONS WITH WARMING TEMPERATURES THROUGH SUNDAY. GFS/ECMWF/UKMET/NOGAPS ALL IN GOOD AGREEMENT WITH PLACING THE RIDGE AXIS OVER CALIFORNIA BY SUNDAY AS THEY ALL FORM A REX BLOCKING PATTERN OVER THE NORTH- CENTRAL PACIFIC. BY SUNDAY...GUIDANCE PLACES VALLEY MAX TEMP/S SOME 3 TO 5 DEG-F ABOVE NORMAL BEFORE THE START OF ANOTHER COOLING TREND. TOWARD NEXT WEEK...ALL LONGER RANGE MODELS ATTEMPT TO BREAKDOWN THE REX BLOCK AND EJECT A TROF TOWARD THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST/NOR- CAL BY TUESDAY NIGHT/WEDNESDAY. FEEL THAT MODELS MAY BE PREMATURELY BREAKING DOWN THE REX BLOCK TOO SOON...WHICH COULD LAST FOR A WEEK. DUE TO ALL MODELS DOING THIS BREAK DOWN... CERTAINTY IS UP SLIGHTLY ON THE SOLUTION FOR EARLY NEXT WEEK. IF THE TROF APPROACHES THE WEST COAST NEXT WEEK...IT WILL HAVE THE DEAL WITH SANDY ALONG THE EAST COAST. EVEN WITH MODEL UNCERTAINTY ON THE TROPICAL SYSTEM...SANDY...IT WILL EXIST OVER THE EAST COAST EARLY NEXT WEEK. THEREFORE...THE RIDGE OVER THE MID-WEST WILL HAVE TO AMPLIFY AS IT ADJUSTS TO THE APPROACHING TROF. MODELS DO INDICATE THAT THE PRECIP BAND PUSHING ONTO CALIFORNIA WILL BE FORCED TO SHIFT NORTHEAST AND POSSIBLY MISS CENTRAL CALIFORNIA. THEREFORE...WILL ONLY MENTION A SLIGHT CHANCE OF PRECIP...STARTING TUESDAY NIGHT...OVER THE NORTHERN THIRD OF THE DISTRICT FOR AREAS FROM FRESNO COUNTY NORTHWARD. && .AVIATION... VFR CONDITIONS WILL PREVAIL THRU 00Z SATURDAY...EXCEPT LOCAL MVFR IN MIST IN THE SAN JOAQUIN VALLEY 12Z TO 17Z FRIDAY. && .AIR QUALITY ISSUES... NONE. && .CERTAINTY... THE LEVEL OF CERTAINTY FOR DAYS 1 AND 2 IS HIGH. THE LEVEL OF CERTAINTY FOR DAYS 3 THROUGH 7 IS MEDIUM. THIS INFORMATION IS PROVIDED AS PART OF A TRIAL PROJECT CONDUCTED BY THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SAN JOAQUIN VALLEY - HANFORD. CERTAINTY LEVELS INCLUDE LOW...MEDIUM...AND HIGH. PLEASE VISIT WWW.WEATHER.GOV/HNX/CERTAINTY.PHP /ALL LOWER CASE/ FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AND/OR TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK. && .CLIMATE... RECORDS SITE DATE HI_MAX:YEAR LO_MAX:YEAR HI_MIN:YEAR LO_MIN:YEAR KFAT 10-25 91:1966 61:1998 62:1982 36:1971 KFAT 10-26 89:2003 57:2004 58:1927 35:1939 KFAT 10-27 89:2003 58:1896 61:1987 35:1970 KBFL 10-25 94:1917 62:1939 66:1982 35:1899 KBFL 10-26 92:2003 58:1996 61:1959 35:1939 KBFL 10-27 99:1906 56:2004 64:1987 34:1919 && .HNX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... NONE. && $$ PUBLIC...MOLINA AVN/FW...BEAN SYNOPSIS...BSO WEATHER.GOV/HANFORD
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NWS JACKSONVILLE FL
252 PM EDT THU OCT 25 2012 .SHORT TERM...HURRICANE SANDY CONTINUES TO PLOW THROUGH THE BAHAMAS STILL AT CATEGORY 2 WITH 105 MPH MAX SUSTAINED WINDS. BROAD E TO NE FLOW CONTINUES TO PROVIDE A FEED OF MOSTLY LOW LEVEL MOISTURE INTO THE AREA WITH A FEW SHOWERS BEGINNING TO IMPACT FLAGLER COUNTY. PWATS ARE ABOUT 1.2 TO 1.3 INCHES PER RAP MODEL AND BLENDED TOTAL PRECIP WATER...AND WATER VAPOR IMAGERY STILL SHOWS DRIER AIR IN THE MID AND UPPER LEVELS. FOR TONIGHT...SIMILAR TO LAST NIGHT BREEZY/WINDY E TO NE WINDS CAN BE EXPECTED IN THE EVENING AND TAPER OFF OVERNIGHT. WILL ALLOW THE LAKE WIND ADVISORY FOR THE GA COAST TO END THIS EVENING. ELSEWHERE...T.S. WATCH WILL BE CONTD AT THIS TIME. ISOLD TO POSSIBLY BRIEFLY SCT SHOWER ACTIVITY CAN BE EXPECTED MAINLY FOR ERN ZONES. CURRENT MOS GUIDANCE CONTINUES TO LOOK A BIT LOW PER RADAR IMAGERY. LOWS IN THE LOWER TO MID 60S EXPECTED WITH NEAR 70 TEMPS NEAR THE COAST. GUIDANCE SUGGESTS PATCHY FOG FOR WELL INLAND SE GA WHICH LOOKS PLAUSIBLE GIVEN THE HIGHER DEWPOINT AIR AND DRY CONDITIONS ALOFT AND WINDS MAY RELAX TO ABOUT 3-5 MPH UP THERE. FRIDAY...STRONG NELY WINDS EXPECTED AS SANDY TRANSLATES NWD TO THE NRN BAHAMAS AND STRENGTHENS THE PRES GRADIENT. WINDS OF 25-35 MPH POSSIBLE WITH GUSTS NEAR 40-45 MPH POSSIBLE. THESE WINDS WILL BE MORE POSSIBLE NEARER TO THE COAST. SOME BANDS OF COASTAL SHOWERS ARE ANTICIPATED EARLY AND INCREASING RAIN CHANCES ARE EXPECTED FROM SE TO NW AS MOISTURE INCREASES FROM THAT DIRECTION. ISOLD EMBEDDED TSTMS ARE ANTICIPATED OVER THE SE ZONES AND COASTAL WATERS AND MAY PRODUCE STRONGER WIND GUSTS IN PERIODS OF RAIN. FRI NIGHT...SANDY WILL BE AT POINT OF CLOSEST APPROACH AS THE NHC JOGS THE SYSTEM A BIT NNW. THE SYSTEM IS THEN PROJECTED TO LIFT N AND THEN NNE LATE. WINDY CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED ALONG THE COASTAL COUNTIES. ELEVATED RAIN CHANCES EXPECTED BUT MAINLY IN THE CHANCE CATEGORY OVER THE SE 1/3RD OF THE CWA. SOME TSTM POTENTIAL STILL POSSIBLE E ZONES/MARINE ZONES. SUSTAINED WINDS NEAR 25-35 MPH POSSIBLE ALONG THE COASTAL AREAS FROM FERNANDINA TO FLAGLER BEACH. LOWS IN THE 60S EXPECTED. SATURDAY...SANDY IS EXPECTED TO LIFT NEWD AT A FASTER CLIP BUT BANDS OF SHOWERS ARE STILL ANTICIPATED AT THIS TIME OVER THE ERN ZONES WITH WINDY CONDITIONS PREVAILING. SOME GLARING DIFFERENCES IN MODEL WINDS AT 850 MB AND GFS IS THE MODEL OF CHOICE HERE. RAIN CHANCES ARE EXPECTED TO DIMINISH THROUGH THE AFTN AND EARLY EVENING AS DEEP MOISTURE AROUND THE SYSTEM MOVES OUT TO SEA. TSTM POTENTIAL LOOKS TOO LOW TO MENTION AT THIS TIME. HIGHS IN THE 70S TO NEAR 80. SAT NIGHT TO SUNDAY...COOLER AND DRIER CONDITIONS EXPECTED AS THE SYSTEM PULLS AWAY WITH DEEP NW FLOW ANTICIPATED. LOWS IN THE 50S EXPECTED AREA WIDE. HIGHS IN THE 70S ON SUNDAY. .LONG TERM...MONDAY-THURSDAY. MUCH COOLER AND DRIER NW FLOW EXPECTED FOR MOST OF THE TIME PERIOD AS WEAK SFC HIGH PRESSURE BUILDS INTO THE REGION. SOME TROUGHING WILL BE POSSIBLE BY MID WEEK AND MAY SUPPORT LOW END RAIN CHANCES NEAR 20%. TEMPERATURES WILL BE AT OR BELOW NORMAL DURING THE EXTENDED FORECAST. && .AVIATION...MAINLY VFR CONDS WITH OCNL CIGS 3500-5000 FT. ISOLATED COASTAL SHOWERS WILL CONTINUE TO MOVE INLAND AND HAVE VCSH AT ALL TERMINALS. && .MARINE...WILL CONTINUE WITH THE TROPICAL STORM WARNING FOR THE COASTAL WATERS. WINDS AND SEAS WILL CONTINUE TO INCREASE AS THE GRADIENT TIGHTENS BETWEEN HURRICANE SANDY AND HIGH PRESSURE TO THE NORTH. EXPECTING TROPICAL STORM CONDITIONS BY LATE TONIGHT INTO SATURDAY NIGHT WITH CONDITIONS BEGINNING TO IMPROVE SUNDAY. RIP CURRENTS/SURF: HIGH RISK OF DANGEROUS RIP CURRENTS WILL CONTINUE INTO THE WEEKEND. BREAKER HEIGHTS WILL INCREASE TO 8 TO 12 FEET FRIDAY INTO THE WEEKEND. HAVE ISSUED A HIGH SURF ADVISORY BEGINNING TONIGHT INTO SUNDAY MORNING. MINOR TO MODERATE COASTAL FLOODING IS POSSIBLE DURING HIGH TIDES ON FRIDAY AND SATURDAY AND A COASTAL FLOOD ADVISORY MAY BE NEEDED. && .PRELIMINARY POINT TEMPS/POPS... AMG 62 82 61 77 / 10 10 10 10 SSI 69 78 67 75 / 20 20 50 50 JAX 68 81 64 76 / 20 20 40 40 SGJ 74 83 70 76 / 20 40 60 50 GNV 65 82 64 78 / 10 10 30 20 OCF 68 83 65 79 / 10 20 30 30 && .JAX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... FL...LAKE WIND ADVISORY UNTIL 6 PM EDT THIS EVENING FOR CLAY-MARION- PUTNAM. TROPICAL STORM WATCH FOR DUVAL-FLAGLER-NASSAU-ST JOHNS. GA...HIGH RIP CURRENT RISK THROUGH SUNDAY EVENING FOR COASTAL CAMDEN- COASTAL GLYNN. LAKE WIND ADVISORY UNTIL 6 AM EDT FRIDAY FOR COASTAL CAMDEN- COASTAL GLYNN. HIGH SURF ADVISORY FROM 2 AM FRIDAY TO 6 AM EDT SUNDAY FOR COASTAL CAMDEN-COASTAL GLYNN. AM...TROPICAL STORM WARNING FOR ALTAMAHA SOUND GA TO FERNANDINA BEACH FL 20 NM TO 60 NM OFFSHORE-ALTAMAHA SOUND GA TO FERNANDINA BEACH FL OUT 20 NM-FERNANDINA BEACH TO ST AUGUSTINE FL 20 NM TO 60 NM OFFSHORE-FERNANDINA BEACH TO ST AUGUSTINE FL OUT 20 NM-ST AUGUSTINE TO FLAGLER BEACH FL 20 NM TO 60 NM OFFSHORE-ST AUGUSTINE TO FLAGLER BEACH FL OUT 20 NM. && $$ SHASHY/PETERSON/WALKER
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS CHICAGO/ROMEOVILLE IL
521 PM CDT THU OCT 25 2012 .DISCUSSION... 336 PM CDT PREVIOUS DISCUSSION... 1251 PM CDT THIS UPDATE STILL VALID FOR REST OF AFTERNOON AND EARLY EVENING... NO BIG CHANGES IN OVERALL FORECAST THINKING THIS AFTERNOON. WE DID SLOW FRONTAL TIMING SLIGHTLY...NOW EXPECT FRONT THROUGH THE ROCKFORD AREA AROUND 4PM CDT AND ACROSS THE CHICAGO METRO BETWEEN 6PM AND 8PM DEPENDING ON YOUR LOCATION. LATEST RAP GUIDANCE SUGGESTS 300-500 J/KG MUCAPE IMMEDIATELY ALONG THE FRONT WITH 50-60KT DEEP LAYER SHEAR. EXPECT CONVECTIVE COVERAGE TO INCREASE ALONG THE FRONT OVER NEXT FEW HOURS AS A SHORTWAVE TROUGH BEGINS TO LIFT NORTHEAST ACROSS IOWA EARLY THIS AFTERNOON. WITH INTENSE SHEAR NOTED IMMEDIATELY ALONG AND JUST BEHIND THE FRONT...WILL HAVE TO MONITOR FOR A MARGINAL SEVERE WEATHER THREAT THROUGH THE AFTERNOON AND EARLY EVENING AS FAST MOVING THUNDERSTORMS ARE EXPECTED TO DEVELOP. BMD DISCUSSION...LATE TONIGHT AND BEYOND... 300 PM CDT SHARP COLD FRONT TO HAVE MOVED TO NORTH CENTRAL AND WEST CENTRAL IN BY MIDNIGHT...WITH ONLY SOME LINGERING POST FRONTAL LIGHT SHOWERS INTO THE OVERNIGHT HOURS FROM NORTHWEST IN TO E CENTRAL IL. WITH THE FRONT AND THE POST FRONTAL SHOWERS HAVING MOVED EAST OF THE LOCAL FORECAST AREA DURING THE PREDAWN HOURS THE CLEARING SEEN UPSTREAM OVER SOUTHERN NE AND MUCH OF KS IS EXPECTED TO SPREAD INTO NORTHWEST AND WEST CENTRAL IL BY LATE EVENING...CONTINUING EASTWARD TO FAR NORTHEASTERN IL BY DAWN FRIDAY. THIS MORNING/S 12Z RAOBS SHOWED THAT BEHIND THE FRONT THAT COLD AIR HAD PENETRATED AS FAR SOUTH AS SOUTHERN NE WITH KLBF MEASURING AN 850 HPA TEMPERATURE OF -5C. THIS IS IN CONTRAST TO +15C REPORTED AT BOTH KTOP AND KDVN. THIS AIR WAS COLD ENOUGH TO SUPPORT SNOW THIS MORNING IN PARTS OF MN...IA AND NE. WHILE THE FRONTAL PASSAGE SHIFTS LOW LEVEL WINDS TO OUT OF THE NORTH-NORTHWEST AND NORTHWEST AND DROPS SURFACE TEMPERATURES SIGNIFICANTLY TONIGHT...THE FLOW LOCALLY 850 AND 800 HPA IS EXPECTED TO BACK TO WEST AND THE SOUTHWEST AT INCREASING HEIGHTS. THIS IS IN RESPONSE TO THERE ONLY VERY SLIGHT MID AND UPPER VEERING OF THE FLOW INDICATED DUE TO ANOTHER STRONG JET MAX AND SHORT WAVE TROUGH TO ROTATE NORTHEASTWARD FROM THEE CENTRAL PLAINS TO THE UPPER MIDWEST DURING THE NIGHT. THIS WEST TO SOUTHWEST FLOW ABOVE THE BOUNDARY LAYER KEEPS THE COOL AIR OVER THE LOCAL AREA RATHER SHALLOW AND ANY PRECIPITATION LINGERING INTO THE NIGHT IS EXPECTED TO REMAIN LIQUID...ENDING BEFORE THE COLD AIR DEEPENS WITH THE PASSAGE OF THE UPSTREAM SHORT WAVE. WITH 850 HPA TEMPERATURE PROGS AVERAGING ABOUT +1 TO -2C OVER THE FORECAST AREA DURING THE DAY FRIDAY AFTERNOON TEMPERATURES SHOULD ONLY RECOVER TO UPPER 40S AND LOWER 50S IN THE AFTERNOON. ANOTHER SHORT WAVE TO MOVE ACROSS THE REGION LATE FRIDAY NIGHT AND EARLY SATURDAY REINFORCES THE LOW LEVEL COLD AIR...WHICH IS EXPECTED TO LIMIT MAX TEMPS FOR SATURDAY TO GENERALLY THE 45-50 DEG F RANGE...WITH SIMILAR HIGHS FOR SUNDAY AND MONDAY. NORTHWEST WINDS GRADUALLY VEER TO NORTH FRIDAY NIGHT AND NORTH-NORTHEAST SATURDAY BEFORE BACKING A BIT TO NORTH DURING SUNDAY AND INTO MONDAY. WHILE TEMPERATURE DIFFERENTIAL BETWEEN THE LAKE AND THE COLD LOW LEVEL AIR IS SUFFICIENT FOR LAKE EFFECT INITIATION PER MODEL FORECAST TEMPERATURE PROFILES ANY SIGNIFICANTLY VERTICAL GROWTH IS TO BE CAPPED BY AN OVERLYING INVERSION. THUS...ONLY EXPECT SOME LAKE EFFECT CLOUDS SATURDAY NIGHT AND SUNDAY NEAR THE LAKE AND INLAND TO THE KANKAKEE RIVER VALLEY OF NORTHWEST IN AND FAR NORTHEAST IL...ALONG AND NEAR THE IL-IN STATE LINE. BY SUNDAY NIGHT THIS INVERSION LESSENED AND EVENTUALLY ELIMINATED ALLOWING A SMALL CHANCE OF LAKE EFFECT SNOW AND RAIN SHOWERS SUNDAY NIGHT INTO MONDAY NIGHT. HOW LONG THE REGION REMAINS UNDER DEEP NORTH TO NORTHWEST FLOW AND THE VERY COOL AIR MASS DEPENDS ON HOW THE HURRICANE SANDY INTERACTS WITH THE UPPER TROUGH TO BE LOCATED FROM WESTERN HUDSON BAY ACROSS ONTARIO AND THE UPPER GREAT LAKES MONDAY. MODELS IN PRETTY GOOD AGREEMENT IN TURNING SANDY NORTH-NORTHWESTWARD TO OVER THE MID ATLANTIC AND SOUTHERN NEW ENGLAND COASTS LATE TUESDAY AND TUESDAY NIGHT. MODELS THEN CONTINUE TO MOVE THE EXTRA- TROPICAL SYSTEM NORTH-NORTHWEST OVER THE LOWER GREAT LAKES DURING LATER TUESDAY AND TUESDAY NIGHT...AND TO FAR SOUTHERN QUEBEC BY THURSDAY MORNING. THIS SUGGESTS THAT THE VERY COOL AIR MASS WILL BE LOCKED IN PLACE OVER THE REGION UNTIL AT LEAST LATE INTO NEXT WEEK KEEPING THE STRING OF BELOW NORMAL TEMPERATURE CONDITIONS GOING. SOME INDICATION THAT AS THE SYSTEM MOVES TO THE LOWER GREAT LAKES AND SOUTHERN QUEBEC THAT MOISTURE WILL BE WRAPPED WEST AND SOUTHWESTWARD TO THE UPPER GREAT LAKES FOR LATER TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY WHICH BRINGS A SLIGHT CHANCE RAIN OR RAIN AND SNOW ALMOST TO THE WESTERN SHORE OF LAKE MI. HAVE SLIGHT CHANCES INTO NORTHWEST IN WHILE HAVE KEPT NORTHEAST IL BELOW THE SLIGHT CHANCE POP THRESHOLD AS WAY TOO MUCH UNCERTAINTY AT THIS POINT. TRS && .AVIATION... //ORD AND MDW CONCERNS...UPDATED 22Z... * WIND SHIFT TO WEST IMMINENT * SHOWERS ALONG AND MAINLY BEHIND A COLD FRONT...WITH SCATTERED THUNDERSTORMS ALSO POSSIBLE. * MVFR/IFR CIGS IMMEDIATELY BEHIND THE COLD FRONT. IZZI //DISCUSSION...UPDATED 18Z... A STRONG COLD FRONT IS BEGINNING TO PUSH INTO NORTHWESTERN ILLINOIS EARLY THIS AFTERNOON. AHEAD OF THE FRONT...BKN STRATUS DECK AROUND 040 HAS OVERSPREAD MOST OF THE NORTHERN ILLINOIS TERMINALS WITH SSW WINDS GUSTING AROUND 30KT. EXPECT LITTLE TO CHANGE OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL HOURS AHEAD OF THE FRONT EXCEPT FOR SOME LOWING OF CIGS TO 020-025. BASED ON FAIRLY GOOD AGREEMENT BETWEEN VARIOUS HOURLY MODELS AND A RADAR FIX ON THE COLD FRONT...HAVE FAIRLY HIGH CONFIDENCE IN FRONTAL TIMING LATE THIS AFTERNOON AND EARLY EVENING. DID BUMP BACK TIMING SLIGHTLY WITH THE 18Z ISSUANCE TO MATCH LATEST THINKING. A LITTLE LESS CERTAIN ARE THE CONVECTIVE CHANCES WITH THIS SYSTEM. THERE IS MODEST INSTABILITY ALONG THE FRONT WITH STRONG FORCING AND SUSPECT THAT SCT/BKN LINE TSRA WILL CONTINUE TO DEVELOP ALONG THE FRONT THIS AFTERNOON. NOT SURE AT THIS POINT HOW EXTENSIVE THE COVERAGE MAY BECOME SO WILL STICK WITH VCTS FOR NOW. IMMEDIATELY BEHIND THE FRONT...EXPECT CONDITIONS TO RAPIDLY DETERIORATE. RAIN WILL OVERSPREAD THE AREA WITH THE THREAT FOR SOME EMBEDDED THUNDERSTORMS CONTINUING FOR AN HOUR OR SO AFTER FROPA. EXPECT CIGS TO QUICKLY FALL INTO LOW END MVFR AND IFR CATEGORY...AND STILL CANNOT RULE OUT LIFR...THOUGH ONLY NAM SOUNDINGS ARE STRONGLY IN FAVOR OF THIS. WINDS WILL SHIFT TO THE NORTHWEST AND THERE MAY BE A SHORT PERIOD WHERE WIND GUSTS IN EXCESS OF 30 KT ARE POSSIBLE AS A STRONG AIR OF PRESSURE RISES MOVES ACROSS THE TERMINALS. OVERNIGHT...EXPECT CONDITIONS TO GRADUALLY IMPROVE BACK TO MVFR...THEN VFR WITH WINDS DIMINISHING AS HIGH PRESSURE BUILDS IN FROM THE WEST. VFR CONDITIONS SHOULD CONTINUE WITH MODERATE NORTHWEST WINDS AROUND 12 KT AND OCCASIONAL GUSTS ON FRIDAY. BMD //ORD AND MDW CONFIDENCE...UPDATED 22Z... * HIGH CONFIDENCE IN WIND DIRECTION/SPEEDS THROUGH THIS EVENING. MEDIUM CONFIDENCE IN SPEEDS OVERNIGHT AND FRIDAY. * HIGH CONFIDENCE IN FROPA/PRECIP TIMING. * HIGH CONFIDENCE IN CIGS DROPPING BELOW 015...MEDIUM CONFIDENCE IN DROPPING BELOW 010. IZZI //OUTLOOK FOR ORD/MDW FOR 00Z SATURDAY-12Z THURSDAY...UPDATED 12Z... * FRIDAY NIGHT THROUGH MONDAY...PREDOMINANTLY VFR. SMALL THREAT OF LOCALIZED LAKE EFFECT MVFR CIGS AND SLIGHT CHANCE OF SHRA. * TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY...VFR. && .MARINE... 347 AM...THE GRADIENT WILL CONTINUE TO TIGHTEN THIS MORNING AS LOW LEVEL WINDS STRENGTHEN AHEAD OF AN APPROACHING COLD FRONT. ALREADY HAD A SHIP WEST OF BEAVER ISLAND OF 32 KTS AT 07Z. CONTINUED THE OCCASIONAL GALE GUST WORDING BUT DESPITE A VERY STRONG MARINE LAYER/INVERSION...ITS POSSIBLE THAT MORE PREVAILING GALES MAY DEVELOP LATER THIS MORNING AND CONTINUE THIS AFTERNOON...MAINLY OVER THE NORTHERN THIRD/HALF OF THE LAKE. THIS WILL NEED TO BE MONITORED FOR A POSSIBLE GALE WARNING. THE COLD FRONT WILL MOVE ACROSS THE LAKE LATE THIS AFTERNOON INTO EARLY THIS EVENING... SHIFTING WINDS TO THE NORTHWEST AND STRONG GUSTS MAY ACCOMPANY THE PASSAGE OF THE FRONT. NORTHWEST WINDS WILL SLOWLY DIMINISH TO 15-25 KTS FRIDAY AS HIGH PRESSURE BUILDS ACROSS THE PLAINS. THIS HIGH WILL SPREAD EAST ACROSS THE WESTERN LAKES FRIDAY NIGHT INTO SATURDAY WITH WINDS DIMINISHING FURTHER BUT THE HIGH THEN BECOMES STATIONARY ACROSS THE WESTERN LAKES AS THE STRONG REMNANTS OF SANDY MOVE NORTH ALONG THE EAST COAST SUNDAY AND MONDAY. THERE REMAINS QUITE A BIT OF UNCERTAINTY EARLY/MID NEXT WEEK BUT IF CURRENT TRENDS CONTINUE...THERE COULD BE A PROLONGED PERIOD OF NORTHERLY WINDS. CMS && .LOT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... IL...NONE. IN...NONE. LM...GALE WARNING...LMZ261-LMZ362-LMZ364-LMZ366-LMZ563-LMZ565-LMZ567- LMZ669-LMZ868-LMZ870 UNTIL 10 PM THURSDAY SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY...NEARSHORE WATERS UNTIL 10 PM SATURDAY. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS CHICAGO/ROMEOVILLE IL
339 PM CDT THU OCT 25 2012 .DISCUSSION... 336 PM CDT PREVIOUS DISCUSSION... 1251 PM CDT THIS UPDATE STILL VALID FOR REST OF AFTERNOON AND EARLY EVENING... NO BIG CHANGES IN OVERALL FORECAST THINKING THIS AFTERNOON. WE DID SLOW FRONTAL TIMING SLIGHTLY...NOW EXPECT FRONT THROUGH THE ROCKFORD AREA AROUND 4PM CDT AND ACROSS THE CHICAGO METRO BETWEEN 6PM AND 8PM DEPENDING ON YOUR LOCATION. LATEST RAP GUIDANCE SUGGESTS 300-500 J/KG MUCAPE IMMEDIATELY ALONG THE FRONT WITH 50-60KT DEEP LAYER SHEAR. EXPECT CONVECTIVE COVERAGE TO INCREASE ALONG THE FRONT OVER NEXT FEW HOURS AS A SHORTWAVE TROUGH BEGINS TO LIFT NORTHEAST ACROSS IOWA EARLY THIS AFTERNOON. WITH INTENSE SHEAR NOTED IMMEDIATELY ALONG AND JUST BEHIND THE FRONT...WILL HAVE TO MONITOR FOR A MARGINAL SEVERE WEATHER THREAT THROUGH THE AFTERNOON AND EARLY EVENING AS FAST MOVING THUNDERSTORMS ARE EXPECTED TO DEVELOP. BMD DISCUSSION...LATE TONIGHT AND BEYOND... 300 PM CDT SHARP COLD FRONT TO HAVE MOVED TO NORTH CENTRAL AND WEST CENTRAL IN BY MIDNIGHT...WITH ONLY SOME LINGERING POST FRONTAL LIGHT SHOWERS INTO THE OVERNIGHT HOURS FROM NORTHWEST IN TO E CENTRAL IL. WITH THE FRONT AND THE POST FRONTAL SHOWERS HAVING MOVED EAST OF THE LOCAL FORECAST AREA DURING THE PREDAWN HOURS THE CLEARING SEEN UPSTREAM OVER SOUTHERN NE AND MUCH OF KS IS EXPECTED TO SPREAD INTO NORTHWEST AND WEST CENTRAL IL BY LATE EVENING...CONTINUING EASTWARD TO FAR NORTHEASTERN IL BY DAWN FRIDAY. THIS MORNING/S 12Z RAOBS SHOWED THAT BEHIND THE FRONT THAT COLD AIR HAD PENETRATED AS FAR SOUTH AS SOUTHERN NE WITH KLBF MEASURING AN 850 HPA TEMPERATURE OF -5C. THIS IS IN CONTRAST TO +15C REPORTED AT BOTH KTOP AND KDVN. THIS AIR WAS COLD ENOUGH TO SUPPORT SNOW THIS MORNING IN PARTS OF MN...IA AND NE. WHILE THE FRONTAL PASSAGE SHIFTS LOW LEVEL WINDS TO OUT OF THE NORTH-NORTHWEST AND NORTHWEST AND DROPS SURFACE TEMPERATURES SIGNIFICANTLY TONIGHT...THE FLOW LOCALLY 850 AND 800 HPA IS EXPECTED TO BACK TO WEST AND THE SOUTHWEST AT INCREASING HEIGHTS. THIS IS IN RESPONSE TO THERE ONLY VERY SLIGHT MID AND UPPER VEERING OF THE FLOW INDICATED DUE TO ANOTHER STRONG JET MAX AND SHORT WAVE TROUGH TO ROTATE NORTHEASTWARD FROM THEE CENTRAL PLAINS TO THE UPPER MIDWEST DURING THE NIGHT. THIS WEST TO SOUTHWEST FLOW ABOVE THE BOUNDARY LAYER KEEPS THE COOL AIR OVER THE LOCAL AREA RATHER SHALLOW AND ANY PRECIPITATION LINGERING INTO THE NIGHT IS EXPECTED TO REMAIN LIQUID...ENDING BEFORE THE COLD AIR DEEPENS WITH THE PASSAGE OF THE UPSTREAM SHORT WAVE. WITH 850 HPA TEMPERATURE PROGS AVERAGING ABOUT +1 TO -2C OVER THE FORECAST AREA DURING THE DAY FRIDAY AFTERNOON TEMPERATURES SHOULD ONLY RECOVER TO UPPER 40S AND LOWER 50S IN THE AFTERNOON. ANOTHER SHORT WAVE TO MOVE ACROSS THE REGION LATE FRIDAY NIGHT AND EARLY SATURDAY REINFORCES THE LOW LEVEL COLD AIR...WHICH IS EXPECTED TO LIMIT MAX TEMPS FOR SATURDAY TO GENERALLY THE 45-50 DEG F RANGE...WITH SIMILAR HIGHS FOR SUNDAY AND MONDAY. NORTHWEST WINDS GRADUALLY VEER TO NORTH FRIDAY NIGHT AND NORTH-NORTHEAST SATURDAY BEFORE BACKING A BIT TO NORTH DURING SUNDAY AND INTO MONDAY. WHILE TEMPERATURE DIFFERENTIAL BETWEEN THE LAKE AND THE COLD LOW LEVEL AIR IS SUFFICIENT FOR LAKE EFFECT INITIATION PER MODEL FORECAST TEMPERATURE PROFILES ANY SIGNIFICANTLY VERTICAL GROWTH IS TO BE CAPPED BY AN OVERLYING INVERSION. THUS...ONLY EXPECT SOME LAKE EFFECT CLOUDS SATURDAY NIGHT AND SUNDAY NEAR THE LAKE AND INLAND TO THE KANKAKEE RIVER VALLEY OF NORTHWEST IN AND FAR NORTHEAST IL...ALONG AND NEAR THE IL-IN STATE LINE. BY SUNDAY NIGHT THIS INVERSION LESSENED AND EVENTUALLY ELIMINATED ALLOWING A SMALL CHANCE OF LAKE EFFECT SNOW AND RAIN SHOWERS SUNDAY NIGHT INTO MONDAY NIGHT. HOW LONG THE REGION REMAINS UNDER DEEP NORTH TO NORTHWEST FLOW AND THE VERY COOL AIR MASS DEPENDS ON HOW THE HURRICANE SANDY INTERACTS WITH THE UPPER TROUGH TO BE LOCATED FROM WESTERN HUDSON BAY ACROSS ONTARIO AND THE UPPER GREAT LAKES MONDAY. MODELS IN PRETTY GOOD AGREEMENT IN TURNING SANDY NORTH-NORTHWESTWARD TO OVER THE MID ATLANTIC AND SOUTHERN NEW ENGLAND COASTS LATE TUESDAY AND TUESDAY NIGHT. MODELS THEN CONTINUE TO MOVE THE EXTRA- TROPICAL SYSTEM NORTH-NORTHWEST OVER THE LOWER GREAT LAKES DURING LATER TUESDAY AND TUESDAY NIGHT...AND TO FAR SOUTHERN QUEBEC BY THURSDAY MORNING. THIS SUGGESTS THAT THE VERY COOL AIR MASS WILL BE LOCKED IN PLACE OVER THE REGION UNTIL AT LEAST LATE INTO NEXT WEEK KEEPING THE STRING OF BELOW NORMAL TEMPERATURE CONDITIONS GOING. SOME INDICATION THAT AS THE SYSTEM MOVES TO THE LOWER GREAT LAKES AND SOUTHERN QUEBEC THAT MOISTURE WILL BE WRAPPED WEST AND SOUTHWESTWARD TO THE UPPER GREAT LAKES FOR LATER TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY WHICH BRINGS A SLIGHT CHANCE RAIN OR RAIN AND SNOW ALMOST TO THE WESTERN SHORE OF LAKE MI. HAVE SLIGHT CHANCES INTO NORTHWEST IN WHILE HAVE KEPT NORTHEAST IL BELOW THE SLIGHT CHANCE POP THRESHOLD AS WAY TOO MUCH UNCERTAINTY AT THIS POINT. TRS && .AVIATION... //ORD AND MDW CONCERNS...UPDATED 20Z... * SOUTH WINDS GUSTING TO NEAR 30 KT BECOMING NORTHWEST LATE THIS AFTERNOON. A BRIEF PERIOD OF STRONGER THAN 30KT NW WINDS ARE POSSIBLE IMMEDIATELY BEHIND THE FRONT...BUT THEN SUBSIDING THEREAFTER. * SHOWERS ALONG AND MAINLY BEHIND A COLD FRONT...WITH SCATTERED THUNDERSTORMS ALSO POSSIBLE. * MVFR/IFR CIGS IMMEDIATELY BEHIND THE COLD FRONT. BMD //DISCUSSION...UPDATED 18Z... A STRONG COLD FRONT IS BEGINNING TO PUSH INTO NORTHWESTERN ILLINOIS EARLY THIS AFTERNOON. AHEAD OF THE FRONT...BKN STRATUS DECK AROUND 040 HAS OVERSPREAD MOST OF THE NORTHERN ILLINOIS TERMINALS WITH SSW WINDS GUSTING AROUND 30KT. EXPECT LITTLE TO CHANGE OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL HOURS AHEAD OF THE FRONT EXCEPT FOR SOME LOWING OF CIGS TO 020-025. BASED ON FAIRLY GOOD AGREEMENT BETWEEN VARIOUS HOURLY MODELS AND A RADAR FIX ON THE COLD FRONT...HAVE FAIRLY HIGH CONFIDENCE IN FRONTAL TIMING LATE THIS AFTERNOON AND EARLY EVENING. DID BUMP BACK TIMING SLIGHTLY WITH THE 18Z ISSUANCE TO MATCH LATEST THINKING. A LITTLE LESS CERTAIN ARE THE CONVECTIVE CHANCES WITH THIS SYSTEM. THERE IS MODEST INSTABILITY ALONG THE FRONT WITH STRONG FORCING AND SUSPECT THAT SCT/BKN LINE TSRA WILL CONTINUE TO DEVELOP ALONG THE FRONT THIS AFTERNOON. NOT SURE AT THIS POINT HOW EXTENSIVE THE COVERAGE MAY BECOME SO WILL STICK WITH VCTS FOR NOW. IMMEDIATELY BEHIND THE FRONT...EXPECT CONDITIONS TO RAPIDLY DETERIORATE. RAIN WILL OVERSPREAD THE AREA WITH THE THREAT FOR SOME EMBEDDED THUNDERSTORMS CONTINUING FOR AN HOUR OR SO AFTER FROPA. EXPECT CIGS TO QUICKLY FALL INTO LOW END MVFR AND IFR CATEGORY...AND STILL CANNOT RULE OUT LIFR...THOUGH ONLY NAM SOUNDINGS ARE STRONGLY IN FAVOR OF THIS. WINDS WILL SHIFT TO THE NORTHWEST AND THERE MAY BE A SHORT PERIOD WHERE WIND GUSTS IN EXCESS OF 30 KT ARE POSSIBLE AS A STRONG AIR OF PRESSURE RISES MOVES ACROSS THE TERMINALS. OVERNIGHT...EXPECT CONDITIONS TO GRADUALLY IMPROVE BACK TO MVFR...THEN VFR WITH WINDS DIMINISHING AS HIGH PRESSURE BUILDS IN FROM THE WEST. VFR CONDITIONS SHOULD CONTINUE WITH MODERATE NORTHWEST WINDS AROUND 12 KT AND OCCASIONAL GUSTS ON FRIDAY. BMD //ORD AND MDW CONFIDENCE...UPDATED 20Z... * HIGH CONFIDENCE IN WIND DIRECTION/SPEEDS THROUGH THIS EVENING. MEDIUM CONFIDENCE IN SPEEDS OVERNIGHT AND FRIDAY. * HIGH CONFIDENCE IN FROPA/PRECIP TIMING. * HIGH CONFIDENCE IN CIGS DROPPING BELOW 015...MEDIUM CONFIDENCE IN DROPPING BELOW 010. BMD //OUTLOOK FOR ORD/MDW FOR 00Z SATURDAY-12Z THURSDAY...UPDATED 12Z... * FRIDAY NIGHT THROUGH MONDAY...PREDOMINANTLY VFR. SMALL THREAT OF LOCALIZED LAKE EFFECT MVFR CIGS AND SLIGHT CHANCE OF SHRA. * TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY...VFR. && .MARINE... 347 AM...THE GRADIENT WILL CONTINUE TO TIGHTEN THIS MORNING AS LOW LEVEL WINDS STRENGTHEN AHEAD OF AN APPROACHING COLD FRONT. ALREADY HAD A SHIP WEST OF BEAVER ISLAND OF 32 KTS AT 07Z. CONTINUED THE OCCASIONAL GALE GUST WORDING BUT DESPITE A VERY STRONG MARINE LAYER/INVERSION...ITS POSSIBLE THAT MORE PREVAILING GALES MAY DEVELOP LATER THIS MORNING AND CONTINUE THIS AFTERNOON...MAINLY OVER THE NORTHERN THIRD/HALF OF THE LAKE. THIS WILL NEED TO BE MONITORED FOR A POSSIBLE GALE WARNING. THE COLD FRONT WILL MOVE ACROSS THE LAKE LATE THIS AFTERNOON INTO EARLY THIS EVENING... SHIFTING WINDS TO THE NORTHWEST AND STRONG GUSTS MAY ACCOMPANY THE PASSAGE OF THE FRONT. NORTHWEST WINDS WILL SLOWLY DIMINISH TO 15-25 KTS FRIDAY AS HIGH PRESSURE BUILDS ACROSS THE PLAINS. THIS HIGH WILL SPREAD EAST ACROSS THE WESTERN LAKES FRIDAY NIGHT INTO SATURDAY WITH WINDS DIMINISHING FURTHER BUT THE HIGH THEN BECOMES STATIONARY ACROSS THE WESTERN LAKES AS THE STRONG REMNANTS OF SANDY MOVE NORTH ALONG THE EAST COAST SUNDAY AND MONDAY. THERE REMAINS QUITE A BIT OF UNCERTAINTY EARLY/MID NEXT WEEK BUT IF CURRENT TRENDS CONTINUE...THERE COULD BE A PROLONGED PERIOD OF NORTHERLY WINDS. CMS && .LOT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... IL...NONE. IN...NONE. LM...GALE WARNING...LMZ261-LMZ362-LMZ364-LMZ366-LMZ563-LMZ565-LMZ567- LMZ669-LMZ868-LMZ870 UNTIL 10 PM THURSDAY. SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY...NEARSHORE WATERS UNTIL 10 PM SATURDAY. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS CHICAGO/ROMEOVILLE IL
232 PM CDT THU OCT 25 2012 .DISCUSSION... 1251 PM CDT NO BIG CHANGES IN OVERALL FORECAST THINKING THIS AFTERNOON. WE DID SLOW FRONTAL TIMING SLIGHTLY...NOW EXPECT FRONT THROUGH THE ROCKFORD AREA AROUND 4PM CDT AND ACROSS THE CHICAGO METRO BETWEEN 6PM AND 8PM DEPENDING ON YOUR LOCATION. LATEST RAP GUIDANCE SUGGESTS 300-500 J/KG MUCAPE IMMEDIATELY ALONG THE FRONT WITH 50-60KT DEEP LAYER SHEAR. EXPECT CONVECTIVE COVERAGE TO INCREASE ALONG THE FRONT OVER NEXT FEW HOURS AS A SHORTWAVE TROUGH BEGINS TO LIFT NORTHEAST ACROSS IOWA EARLY THIS AFTERNOON. WITH INTENSE SHEAR NOTED IMMEDIATELY ALONG AND JUST BEHIND THE FRONT...WILL HAVE TO MONITOR FOR A MARGINAL SEVERE WEATHER THREAT THROUGH THE AFTERNOON AND EARLY EVENING AS FAST MOVING THUNDERSTORMS ARE EXPECTED TO DEVELOP. BMD //PREV DISCUSSION... 333 AM CDT EARLY THIS MORNING AN ACTIVE ATMOSPHERIC RIVER WAS RIDING ALONG THE FRONTAL BOUNDARY FROM CENTRAL KANSAS NORTHEAST THROUGH LAKE SUPERIOR. A SERIES OF CONVECTIVE COMPLEXES DEVELOPED LATE LAST NIGHT AND CONTINUE EARLY THIS MORNING. ACROSS NORTHERN IL/NORTHWEST IN FLOW REMAINS SOUTHERLY WITH VERY MILD AND MOIST CONDS. DEW PTS HAVE REMAINED IN THE LOW 60S OVERNIGHT...WHICH BASED ON CLIMATOLOGY IS A FEW DEGREES WARMER THAN THE NORMAL HIGH TEMPS ON THIS DATE. IT APPEARS THE DAY WILL START OFF WITH JUST SOME HIGH BASED CLOUDS OVERHEAD...WHICH WILL ALLOW THE SFC TO WARM-UP EFFICIENTLY. WITH SOME POTENTIAL FOR COMPRESSIONAL WARMING TO TAKE PLACE...TEMPS ACROSS THE CWFA COULD EASILY PUSH BACK INTO THE UPR 70S TDY...AND COULD SEE A FEW 80 DEG READINGS SOUTH OF A PONTIAC TO KANKAKEE LINE. THEN THE LARGER FOCUS WILL BE ON THE PRECIP ARRIVAL...CONVECTION CHANCES...AND FRONTAL PASSAGE. MINIMAL ADJUSTMENTS TO THE PREVIOUS FORECAST...AS IT APPEARS THE FRONT SHUD ARRIVE ACROSS THE FAR WESTERN CWFA ARND 18-21Z. LAPSE RATES STEEPEN...AND MUCAPE VALUES ARE PROGGED TO APPROACH 1000J/KG THIS AFTN. THE BEST SHEAR SHUD PASS WELL NORTH OF THE REGION...HOWEVER THE ENVIRONMENT OVERHEAD WILL BECOME FAVORABLE FOR CONVECTION EARLY THIS AFTERNOON THROUGH EARLY THIS EVENING FROM WEST TO EAST. HI-RES GUIDANCE WAS SUGGESTING THAT PRECIP MAY BE MORE PLENTIFUL IMMEDIATELY BEHIND THE BNDRY. HAVE MAINTAINED MENTION OF CONVECTION...HOWEVER HAVE TRIMMED BACK FROM THE DEFINITE MENTION TO LIKELY. COULD EVEN SEE THIS BEING TRIMMED BACK TO CHC THUNDER. THEN THE BDNRY STEADILY MARCHES EAST ACROSS THE CWFA WITH WINDS TURNING WEST/NORTHWEST BY 00Z...AND EXPECT THE FRONT TO HAVE PUSHED EAST OF NORTHWEST IN AROUND 3Z FRI. THE CONVECTIVE THREAT WILL RAPIDLY DIMINISH AS WELL AS THE DRY AIR STEADILY ARRIVES LATE THIS AFTN. TEMPS WILL ALSO QUICKLY FALL POST FRONTAL...AND EXPECT BY 00Z LOCATIONS WEST OF A PONTIAC TO CRYSTAL LAKE LINE WILL HAVE TEMPS ALREADY IN THE UPR 40S. THEN THEY WILL CONTINUE TO RADIATE WITH LOWS IN THE MID 30S ACROSS THE FAR NORTHWEST...AND LOW 40S FOR NORTHWEST IN. FRIDAY THROUGH SUNDAY... 500MB TROUGH AXIS WILL PUSH EAST ACROSS THE GREAT LAKES REGION FRI...THEN BEGIN TO WEAKEN THROUGH THE SECOND HALF OF THE WEEKEND. HOWEVER...DESPITE THE WEAKENING THE GENERAL THEME WILL FEATURE A NORTHWEST FLOW. STRONG 500MB RIDGE WILL REMAIN IN PLACE ACROSS THE CANADIAN MARITIME THROUGH THE WEEKEND...WHICH COULD SLOW THE WEAKENING OF THE TROUGH OVER THE GREAT LAKES. ENSEMBLES ARE DEMONSTRATING MINIMAL SPREAD AMONGST EACH MEMBER...THUS EXHIBITING A HIGH CONFIDENCE. SFC ANTI-CYCLONIC FLOW RAPIDLY PUSHES IN BEHIND THE COLD FRONT FRI...AND SHUD AID IN A QUICK EROSION TO THE CLOUDS/PRECIP. 850MB THERMAL TROUGH WILL STEADILY BUILD OVERHEAD FRI...WITH TEMPS MIDDAY OF 0 TO -2 DEG C. AT THIS TIME IT APPEARS THE BULK OF FRI WILL REMAIN DRY...HOWEVER CONDITIONS WILL BE STEADILY DEVELOPING FOR LAKE EFFECT PRECIP GENERATION FRI EVE. LAKE EFFECT PRECIP LOOKS PROBABLE FOR FRI NGT THRU SUN...AS FLOW WILL GENERALLY BE NORTH. AT TIMES THE WINDS MAY VEER MORE TO THE NORTHEAST...WHICH WOULD FAVOR A BUCKLE IN THE EXPECTED LAKE EFFECT PRECIP COVERAGE AND PUSH IT OVER CHICAGO/WAUKEGAN. TEMPS DURING THE DAY SHUD WARM ENOUGH TO KEEP PRECIP IN A LIQUID STATE OR SHRA. THEN OVERNIGHT TEMPS ARE EXPECTED TO RADIATE INTO THE LOW/MID 30S...WHICH MAY ALLOW FOR SOME WET SNOW TO BECOME MIXED WITH THE LGT RA. OTHERWISE AREAS AWAY FROM LAKE MICHIGAN OR WEST OF I-355...SHOULD SEE DRY WEATHER THRU THE FRI-SUN PERIODS AND PSBLY SUNNY SKIES. AFTERNOON TEMPS SAT/SUN WILL STRUGGLE TO WARM WITH THE CONTINUED FEED OF COLD AIR ADVECTION INTO THE AREA. BASED OFF OF THE PLUMES AND GUIDANCE FOR THIS TIMEFRAME...MANY LOCATIONS MAY STRUGGLE TO WARM BEYOND THE LOW/MID 40S. IT IS CONCEIVABLE THAT A FEW AREAS NORTH OF I-88 COULD SEE TEMPS HOLD IN THE UPR 30S SAT. MONDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY... THE FINAL FEW PERIODS OF THE EXTENDED BECOME VERY CHALLENGING. THE AFOREMENTIONED HIGH LATITUDE RIDGING OVER THE CANADIAN MARITIME IS PROGGED TO MAINTAIN ITSELF...AND GUIDANCE IS INDICATING THAT THE TROUGH OVER THE GREAT LAKES WILL INITIALLY WEAKEN. THEN THIS TROUGH WILL UNDERGO SOME ENHANCEMENT TUE/WED. THE OTHER CHALLENGE IS THE TROPICAL SYSTEM IN THE WESTERN ATLANTIC...WHICH GUIDANCE HAS BEEN SUGGESTING WILL SKIRT THE EAST COAST. ONCE THE TROPICAL SYSTEM...SANDY...APPROACHES THE NEW ENGLAND AREA GUIDANCE IS SUGGESTING IT WILL MERGE WITH THE TROUGH AND AMPLIFY. THIS COULD RESULT IN A SLUG OF PRECIP PIVOTING WEST/SOUTHWEST ACROSS LOWER MICHIGAN TUE AND ARRIVE ACROSS NORTHERN IL/NORTHWEST IN TUE NGT/WED. OVERALL THE TEMP OUTLOOK FOR THE EXTENDED PERIODS WILL REMAIN COOL...WITH TEMPS GENERALLY IN THE MID/UPR 40S TO PSBLY LOW 50S TUE/WED. OVERNIGHT LOWS WILL HINGE UPON CLOUD COVER...HOWEVER AT THIS TIME ANTICIPATE TEMPS IN THE UPR 20S TO LOW 30S. BEACHLER && .AVIATION... //ORD AND MDW CONCERNS...UPDATED 20Z... * SOUTH WINDS GUSTING TO NEAR 30 KT BECOMING NORTHWEST LATE THIS AFTERNOON. A BRIEF PERIOD OF STRONGER THAN 30KT NW WINDS ARE POSSIBLE IMMEDIATELY BEHIND THE FRONT...BUT THEN SUBSIDING THEREAFTER. * SHOWERS ALONG AND MAINLY BEHIND A COLD FRONT...WITH SCATTERED THUNDERSTORMS ALSO POSSIBLE. * MVFR/IFR CIGS IMMEDIATELY BEHIND THE COLD FRONT. BMD //DISCUSSION...UPDATED 18Z... A STRONG COLD FRONT IS BEGINNING TO PUSH INTO NORTHWESTERN ILLINOIS EARLY THIS AFTERNOON. AHEAD OF THE FRONT...BKN STRATUS DECK AROUND 040 HAS OVERSPREAD MOST OF THE NORTHERN ILLINOIS TERMINALS WITH SSW WINDS GUSTING AROUND 30KT. EXPECT LITTLE TO CHANGE OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL HOURS AHEAD OF THE FRONT EXCEPT FOR SOME LOWING OF CIGS TO 020-025. BASED ON FAIRLY GOOD AGREEMENT BETWEEN VARIOUS HOURLY MODELS AND A RADAR FIX ON THE COLD FRONT...HAVE FAIRLY HIGH CONFIDENCE IN FRONTAL TIMING LATE THIS AFTERNOON AND EARLY EVENING. DID BUMP BACK TIMING SLIGHTLY WITH THE 18Z ISSUANCE TO MATCH LATEST THINKING. A LITTLE LESS CERTAIN ARE THE CONVECTIVE CHANCES WITH THIS SYSTEM. THERE IS MODEST INSTABILITY ALONG THE FRONT WITH STRONG FORCING AND SUSPECT THAT SCT/BKN LINE TSRA WILL CONTINUE TO DEVELOP ALONG THE FRONT THIS AFTERNOON. NOT SURE AT THIS POINT HOW EXTENSIVE THE COVERAGE MAY BECOME SO WILL STICK WITH VCTS FOR NOW. IMMEDIATELY BEHIND THE FRONT...EXPECT CONDITIONS TO RAPIDLY DETERIORATE. RAIN WILL OVERSPREAD THE AREA WITH THE THREAT FOR SOME EMBEDDED THUNDERSTORMS CONTINUING FOR AN HOUR OR SO AFTER FROPA. EXPECT CIGS TO QUICKLY FALL INTO LOW END MVFR AND IFR CATEGORY...AND STILL CANNOT RULE OUT LIFR...THOUGH ONLY NAM SOUNDINGS ARE STRONGLY IN FAVOR OF THIS. WINDS WILL SHIFT TO THE NORTHWEST AND THERE MAY BE A SHORT PERIOD WHERE WIND GUSTS IN EXCESS OF 30 KT ARE POSSIBLE AS A STRONG AIR OF PRESSURE RISES MOVES ACROSS THE TERMINALS. OVERNIGHT...EXPECT CONDITIONS TO GRADUALLY IMPROVE BACK TO MVFR...THEN VFR WITH WINDS DIMINISHING AS HIGH PRESSURE BUILDS IN FROM THE WEST. VFR CONDITIONS SHOULD CONTINUE WITH MODERATE NORTHWEST WINDS AROUND 12 KT AND OCCASIONAL GUSTS ON FRIDAY. BMD //ORD AND MDW CONFIDENCE...UPDATED 20Z... * HIGH CONFIDENCE IN WIND DIRECTION/SPEEDS THROUGH THIS EVENING. MEDIUM CONFIDENCE IN SPEEDS OVERNIGHT AND FRIDAY. * HIGH CONFIDENCE IN FROPA/PRECIP TIMING. * HIGH CONFIDENCE IN CIGS DROPPING BELOW 015...MEDIUM CONFIDENCE IN DROPPING BELOW 010. BMD //OUTLOOK FOR ORD/MDW FOR 00Z SATURDAY-12Z THURSDAY...UPDATED 12Z... * FRIDAY NIGHT THROUGH MONDAY...PREDOMINANTLY VFR. SMALL THREAT OF LOCALIZED LAKE EFFECT MVFR CIGS AND SLIGHT CHANCE OF SHRA. * TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY...VFR. && .MARINE... 347 AM...THE GRADIENT WILL CONTINUE TO TIGHTEN THIS MORNING AS LOW LEVEL WINDS STRENGTHEN AHEAD OF AN APPROACHING COLD FRONT. ALREADY HAD A SHIP WEST OF BEAVER ISLAND OF 32 KTS AT 07Z. CONTINUED THE OCCASIONAL GALE GUST WORDING BUT DESPITE A VERY STRONG MARINE LAYER/INVERSION...ITS POSSIBLE THAT MORE PREVAILING GALES MAY DEVELOP LATER THIS MORNING AND CONTINUE THIS AFTERNOON...MAINLY OVER THE NORTHERN THIRD/HALF OF THE LAKE. THIS WILL NEED TO BE MONITORED FOR A POSSIBLE GALE WARNING. THE COLD FRONT WILL MOVE ACROSS THE LAKE LATE THIS AFTERNOON INTO EARLY THIS EVENING... SHIFTING WINDS TO THE NORTHWEST AND STRONG GUSTS MAY ACCOMPANY THE PASSAGE OF THE FRONT. NORTHWEST WINDS WILL SLOWLY DIMINISH TO 15-25 KTS FRIDAY AS HIGH PRESSURE BUILDS ACROSS THE PLAINS. THIS HIGH WILL SPREAD EAST ACROSS THE WESTERN LAKES FRIDAY NIGHT INTO SATURDAY WITH WINDS DIMINISHING FURTHER BUT THE HIGH THEN BECOMES STATIONARY ACROSS THE WESTERN LAKES AS THE STRONG REMNANTS OF SANDY MOVE NORTH ALONG THE EAST COAST SUNDAY AND MONDAY. THERE REMAINS QUITE A BIT OF UNCERTAINTY EARLY/MID NEXT WEEK BUT IF CURRENT TRENDS CONTINUE...THERE COULD BE A PROLONGED PERIOD OF NORTHERLY WINDS. CMS && .LOT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... IL...NONE. IN...NONE. LM...GALE WARNING...LMZ261-LMZ362-LMZ364-LMZ366-LMZ563-LMZ565-LMZ567- LMZ669-LMZ868-LMZ870 UNTIL 10 PM THURSDAY. SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY...NEARSHORE WATERS UNTIL 10 PM SATURDAY. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION...UPDATED
NWS CHICAGO/ROMEOVILLE IL
1252 PM CDT THU OCT 25 2012 .DISCUSSION... 1251 PM CDT NO BIG CHANGES IN OVERALL FORECAST THINKING THIS AFTERNOON. WE DID SLOW FRONTAL TIMING SLIGHTLY...NOW EXPECT FRONT THROUGH THE ROCKFORD AREA AROUND 4PM CDT AND ACROSS THE CHICAGO METRO BETWEEN 6PM AND 8PM DEPENDING ON YOUR LOCATION. LATEST RAP GUIDANCE SUGGESTS 300-500 J/KG MUCAPE IMMEDIATELY ALONG THE FRONT WITH 50-60KT DEEP LAYER SHEAR. EXPECT CONVECTIVE COVERAGE TO INCREASE ALONG THE FRONT OVER NEXT FEW HOURS AS A SHORTWAVE TROUGH BEGINS TO LIFT NORTHEAST ACROSS IOWA EARLY THIS AFTERNOON. WITH INTENSE SHEAR NOTED IMMEDIATELY ALONG AND JUST BEHIND THE FRONT...WILL HAVE TO MONITOR FOR A MARGINAL SEVERE WEATHER THREAT THROUGH THE AFTERNOON AND EARLY EVENING AS FAST MOVING THUNDERSTORMS ARE EXPECTED TO DEVELOP. BMD && .PREV DISCUSSION... 333 AM CDT EARLY THIS MORNING AN ACTIVE ATMOSPHERIC RIVER WAS RIDING ALONG THE FRONTAL BOUNDARY FROM CENTRAL KANSAS NORTHEAST THROUGH LAKE SUPERIOR. A SERIES OF CONVECTIVE COMPLEXES DEVELOPED LATE LAST NIGHT AND CONTINUE EARLY THIS MORNING. ACROSS NORTHERN IL/NORTHWEST IN FLOW REMAINS SOUTHERLY WITH VERY MILD AND MOIST CONDS. DEW PTS HAVE REMAINED IN THE LOW 60S OVERNIGHT...WHICH BASED ON CLIMATOLOGY IS A FEW DEGREES WARMER THAN THE NORMAL HIGH TEMPS ON THIS DATE. IT APPEARS THE DAY WILL START OFF WITH JUST SOME HIGH BASED CLOUDS OVERHEAD...WHICH WILL ALLOW THE SFC TO WARM-UP EFFICIENTLY. WITH SOME POTENTIAL FOR COMPRESSIONAL WARMING TO TAKE PLACE...TEMPS ACROSS THE CWFA COULD EASILY PUSH BACK INTO THE UPR 70S TDY...AND COULD SEE A FEW 80 DEG READINGS SOUTH OF A PONTIAC TO KANKAKEE LINE. THEN THE LARGER FOCUS WILL BE ON THE PRECIP ARRIVAL...CONVECTION CHANCES...AND FRONTAL PASSAGE. MINIMAL ADJUSTMENTS TO THE PREVIOUS FORECAST...AS IT APPEARS THE FRONT SHUD ARRIVE ACROSS THE FAR WESTERN CWFA ARND 18-21Z. LAPSE RATES STEEPEN...AND MUCAPE VALUES ARE PROGGED TO APPROACH 1000J/KG THIS AFTN. THE BEST SHEAR SHUD PASS WELL NORTH OF THE REGION...HOWEVER THE ENVIRONMENT OVERHEAD WILL BECOME FAVORABLE FOR CONVECTION EARLY THIS AFTERNOON THROUGH EARLY THIS EVENING FROM WEST TO EAST. HI-RES GUIDANCE WAS SUGGESTING THAT PRECIP MAY BE MORE PLENTIFUL IMMEDIATELY BEHIND THE BNDRY. HAVE MAINTAINED MENTION OF CONVECTION...HOWEVER HAVE TRIMMED BACK FROM THE DEFINITE MENTION TO LIKELY. COULD EVEN SEE THIS BEING TRIMMED BACK TO CHC THUNDER. THEN THE BDNRY STEADILY MARCHES EAST ACROSS THE CWFA WITH WINDS TURNING WEST/NORTHWEST BY 00Z...AND EXPECT THE FRONT TO HAVE PUSHED EAST OF NORTHWEST IN AROUND 3Z FRI. THE CONVECTIVE THREAT WILL RAPIDLY DIMINISH AS WELL AS THE DRY AIR STEADILY ARRIVES LATE THIS AFTN. TEMPS WILL ALSO QUICKLY FALL POST FRONTAL...AND EXPECT BY 00Z LOCATIONS WEST OF A PONTIAC TO CRYSTAL LAKE LINE WILL HAVE TEMPS ALREADY IN THE UPR 40S. THEN THEY WILL CONTINUE TO RADIATE WITH LOWS IN THE MID 30S ACROSS THE FAR NORTHWEST...AND LOW 40S FOR NORTHWEST IN. FRIDAY THROUGH SUNDAY... 500MB TROUGH AXIS WILL PUSH EAST ACROSS THE GREAT LAKES REGION FRI...THEN BEGIN TO WEAKEN THROUGH THE SECOND HALF OF THE WEEKEND. HOWEVER...DESPITE THE WEAKENING THE GENERAL THEME WILL FEATURE A NORTHWEST FLOW. STRONG 500MB RIDGE WILL REMAIN IN PLACE ACROSS THE CANADIAN MARITIME THROUGH THE WEEKEND...WHICH COULD SLOW THE WEAKENING OF THE TROUGH OVER THE GREAT LAKES. ENSEMBLES ARE DEMONSTRATING MINIMAL SPREAD AMONGST EACH MEMBER...THUS EXHIBITING A HIGH CONFIDENCE. SFC ANTI-CYCLONIC FLOW RAPIDLY PUSHES IN BEHIND THE COLD FRONT FRI...AND SHUD AID IN A QUICK EROSION TO THE CLOUDS/PRECIP. 850MB THERMAL TROUGH WILL STEADILY BUILD OVERHEAD FRI...WITH TEMPS MIDDAY OF 0 TO -2 DEG C. AT THIS TIME IT APPEARS THE BULK OF FRI WILL REMAIN DRY...HOWEVER CONDITIONS WILL BE STEADILY DEVELOPING FOR LAKE EFFECT PRECIP GENERATION FRI EVE. LAKE EFFECT PRECIP LOOKS PROBABLE FOR FRI NGT THRU SUN...AS FLOW WILL GENERALLY BE NORTH. AT TIMES THE WINDS MAY VEER MORE TO THE NORTHEAST...WHICH WOULD FAVOR A BUCKLE IN THE EXPECTED LAKE EFFECT PRECIP COVERAGE AND PUSH IT OVER CHICAGO/WAUKEGAN. TEMPS DURING THE DAY SHUD WARM ENOUGH TO KEEP PRECIP IN A LIQUID STATE OR SHRA. THEN OVERNIGHT TEMPS ARE EXPECTED TO RADIATE INTO THE LOW/MID 30S...WHICH MAY ALLOW FOR SOME WET SNOW TO BECOME MIXED WITH THE LGT RA. OTHERWISE AREAS AWAY FROM LAKE MICHIGAN OR WEST OF I-355...SHOULD SEE DRY WEATHER THRU THE FRI-SUN PERIODS AND PSBLY SUNNY SKIES. AFTERNOON TEMPS SAT/SUN WILL STRUGGLE TO WARM WITH THE CONTINUED FEED OF COLD AIR ADVECTION INTO THE AREA. BASED OFF OF THE PLUMES AND GUIDANCE FOR THIS TIMEFRAME...MANY LOCATIONS MAY STRUGGLE TO WARM BEYOND THE LOW/MID 40S. IT IS CONCEIVABLE THAT A FEW AREAS NORTH OF I-88 COULD SEE TEMPS HOLD IN THE UPR 30S SAT. MONDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY... THE FINAL FEW PERIODS OF THE EXTENDED BECOME VERY CHALLENGING. THE AFOREMENTIONED HIGH LATITUDE RIDGING OVER THE CANADIAN MARITIME IS PROGGED TO MAINTAIN ITSELF...AND GUIDANCE IS INDICATING THAT THE TROUGH OVER THE GREAT LAKES WILL INITIALLY WEAKEN. THEN THIS TROUGH WILL UNDERGO SOME ENHANCEMENT TUE/WED. THE OTHER CHALLENGE IS THE TROPICAL SYSTEM IN THE WESTERN ATLANTIC...WHICH GUIDANCE HAS BEEN SUGGESTING WILL SKIRT THE EAST COAST. ONCE THE TROPICAL SYSTEM...SANDY...APPROACHES THE NEW ENGLAND AREA GUIDANCE IS SUGGESTING IT WILL MERGE WITH THE TROUGH AND AMPLIFY. THIS COULD RESULT IN A SLUG OF PRECIP PIVOTING WEST/SOUTHWEST ACROSS LOWER MICHIGAN TUE AND ARRIVE ACROSS NORTHERN IL/NORTHWEST IN TUE NGT/WED. OVERALL THE TEMP OUTLOOK FOR THE EXTENDED PERIODS WILL REMAIN COOL...WITH TEMPS GENERALLY IN THE MID/UPR 40S TO PSBLY LOW 50S TUE/WED. OVERNIGHT LOWS WILL HINGE UPON CLOUD COVER...HOWEVER AT THIS TIME ANTICIPATE TEMPS IN THE UPR 20S TO LOW 30S. BEACHLER && .AVIATION... //ORD AND MDW CONCERNS...UPDATED 18Z... * SOUTH WINDS GUSTING TO NEAR 30 KT BECOMING NORTHWEST LATE THIS AFTERNOON. A BRIEF PERIOD OF STRONGER THAN 30KT NW WINDS ARE POSSIBLE IMMEDIATELY BEHIND THE FRONT...BUT THEN SUBSIDING THEREAFTER. * SHOWERS ALONG AND MAINLY BEHIND A COLD FRONT...WITH SCATTERED THUNDERSTORMS ALSO POSSIBLE. * MVFR/IFR CIGS IMMEDIATELY BEHIND THE COLD FRONT...POSSIBLY BRIEF LIFR. BMD //DISCUSSION...UPDATED 18Z... A STRONG COLD FRONT IS BEGINNING TO PUSH INTO NORTHWESTERN ILLINOIS EARLY THIS AFTERNOON. AHEAD OF THE FRONT...BKN STRATUS DECK AROUND 040 HAS OVERSPREAD MOST OF THE NORTHERN ILLINOIS TERMINALS WITH SSW WINDS GUSTING AROUND 30KT. EXPECT LITTLE TO CHANGE OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL HOURS AHEAD OF THE FRONT EXCEPT FOR SOME LOWING OF CIGS TO 020-025. BASED ON FAIRLY GOOD AGREEMENT BETWEEN VARIOUS HOURLY MODELS AND A RADAR FIX ON THE COLD FRONT...HAVE FAIRLY HIGH CONFIDENCE IN FRONTAL TIMING LATE THIS AFTERNOON AND EARLY EVENING. DID BUMP BACK TIMING SLIGHTLY WITH THE 18Z ISSUANCE TO MATCH LATEST THINKING. A LITTLE LESS CERTAIN ARE THE CONVECTIVE CHANCES WITH THIS SYSTEM. THERE IS MODEST INSTABILITY ALONG THE FRONT WITH STRONG FORCING AND SUSPECT THAT SCT/BKN LINE TSRA WILL CONTINUE TO DEVELOP ALONG THE FRONT THIS AFTERNOON. NOT SURE AT THIS POINT HOW EXTENSIVE THE COVERAGE MAY BECOME SO WILL STICK WITH VCTS FOR NOW. IMMEDIATELY BEHIND THE FRONT...EXPECT CONDITIONS TO RAPIDLY DETERIORATE. RAIN WILL OVERSPREAD THE AREA WITH THE THREAT FOR SOME EMBEDDED THUNDERSTORMS CONTINUING FOR AN HOUR OR SO AFTER FROPA. EXPECT CIGS TO QUICKLY FALL INTO LOW END MVFR AND IFR CATEGORY...AND STILL CANNOT RULE OUT LIFR...THOUGH ONLY NAM SOUNDINGS ARE STRONGLY IN FAVOR OF THIS. WINDS WILL SHIFT TO THE NORTHWEST AND THERE MAY BE A SHORT PERIOD WHERE WIND GUSTS IN EXCESS OF 30 KT ARE POSSIBLE AS A STRONG AIR OF PRESSURE RISES MOVES ACROSS THE TERMINALS. OVERNIGHT...EXPECT CONDITIONS TO GRADUALLY IMPROVE BACK TO MVFR...THEN VFR WITH WINDS DIMINISHING AS HIGH PRESSURE BUILDS IN FROM THE WEST. VFR CONDITIONS SHOULD CONTINUE WITH MODERATE NORTHWEST WINDS AROUND 12 KT AND OCCASIONAL GUSTS ON FRIDAY. BMD //ORD AND MDW CONFIDENCE...UPDATED 18Z... * HIGH CONFIDENCE IN WIND DIRECTION/SPEEDS THROUGH THIS EVENING. MEDIUM CONFIDENCE IN SPEEDS OVERNIGHT AND FRIDAY. * HIGH CONFIDENCE IN FROPA/PRECIP TIMING. * HIGH CONFIDENCE IN CIGS DROPPING BELOW 015 AND LIKELY 010...LOW TO MEDIUM CONFIDENCE IN LESS THAN 005. BMD //OUTLOOK FOR ORD/MDW FOR 00Z SATURDAY-12Z THURSDAY...UPDATED 12Z... * FRIDAY NIGHT THROUGH MONDAY...PREDOMINANTLY VFR. SMALL THREAT OF LOCALIZED LAKE EFFECT MVFR CIGS AND SLIGHT CHANCE OF SHRA. * TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY...VFR. && .MARINE... 347 AM...THE GRADIENT WILL CONTINUE TO TIGHTEN THIS MORNING AS LOW LEVEL WINDS STRENGTHEN AHEAD OF AN APPROACHING COLD FRONT. ALREADY HAD A SHIP WEST OF BEAVER ISLAND OF 32 KTS AT 07Z. CONTINUED THE OCCASIONAL GALE GUST WORDING BUT DESPITE A VERY STRONG MARINE LAYER/INVERSION...ITS POSSIBLE THAT MORE PREVAILING GALES MAY DEVELOP LATER THIS MORNING AND CONTINUE THIS AFTERNOON...MAINLY OVER THE NORTHERN THIRD/HALF OF THE LAKE. THIS WILL NEED TO BE MONITORED FOR A POSSIBLE GALE WARNING. THE COLD FRONT WILL MOVE ACROSS THE LAKE LATE THIS AFTERNOON INTO EARLY THIS EVENING... SHIFTING WINDS TO THE NORTHWEST AND STRONG GUSTS MAY ACCOMPANY THE PASSAGE OF THE FRONT. NORTHWEST WINDS WILL SLOWLY DIMINISH TO 15-25 KTS FRIDAY AS HIGH PRESSURE BUILDS ACROSS THE PLAINS. THIS HIGH WILL SPREAD EAST ACROSS THE WESTERN LAKES FRIDAY NIGHT INTO SATURDAY WITH WINDS DIMINISHING FURTHER BUT THE HIGH THEN BECOMES STATIONARY ACROSS THE WESTERN LAKES AS THE STRONG REMNANTS OF SANDY MOVE NORTH ALONG THE EAST COAST SUNDAY AND MONDAY. THERE REMAINS QUITE A BIT OF UNCERTAINTY EARLY/MID NEXT WEEK BUT IF CURRENT TRENDS CONTINUE...THERE COULD BE A PROLONGED PERIOD OF NORTHERLY WINDS. CMS && .LOT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... IL...NONE. IN...NONE. LM...GALE WARNING...LMZ261-LMZ362-LMZ364-LMZ366-LMZ563-LMZ565-LMZ567- LMZ669-LMZ868-LMZ870 UNTIL 10 PM THURSDAY. SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY...NEARSHORE WATERS UNTIL 10 PM SATURDAY. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS NORTHERN INDIANA
201 PM EDT THU OCT 25 2012 .AVIATION... 18Z TAFS...SOUTH WINDS OF 15 TO 25 KNOTS WITH GUSTS TO 30 KNOTS WILL CONTINUE THROUGH THE REMAINDER OF THE AFTERNOON WITH PEAK MIXING. SOME DIMINISHMENT IN GUSTS INTO THE 20 TO 25 KNOT RANGE IS EXPECTED THIS EVENING WITH LOSS OF DEEPER MIXING. SOME DRIER LOW LEVEL AIR WHICH HAS ADVECTED IN FROM THE SOUTH WILL CAP ANY CONVECTIVE ACTIVITY THIS AFTERNOON. TOWARD EVENING...LOW LEVEL MOISTURE IS EXPECTED TO INCREASE AGAIN IN ADVANCE OF A COLD FRONT ACROSS NORTHWEST ILLINOIS. A FEW ISOLATED SHOWERS OR STORMS ARE POSSIBLE ALONG THE COLD FRONT...WITH A BETTER CHANCE OF MORE WIDESPREAD RAIN SHOWERS DEVELOPING BEHIND THE FRONT LATE THIS EVENING AT KSBN...AND FOR THE OVERNIGHT HOURS AT KFWA. BEST ELEVATED INSTABILITY IS EXPECTED AT KSBN IN THE 03Z TO 06Z TIMEFRAME...WHEN HAVE MAINTAINED VCTS MENTION. WINDS TO SHIFT NORTHWEST BEHIND THE FRONT TONIGHT...WITH A PERIOD OF LOWER END MVFR CONDITIONS EXPECTED BEHIND THE FRONT TONIGHT BEFORE CIGS MVFR CIGS ARE EXPECTED TO IMPROVE ABOVE 2K FT FRIDAY MORNING AS DRIER LOW LEVEL AIR ADVECTS IN. RAIN SHOWERS TO PERSIST AT KFWA THROUGH LATE MORNING AS MID LEVEL FRONTAL ZONE IS SLOW TO PUSH OFF TO THE EAST. && .PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 1132 AM EDT THU OCT 25 2012/ UPDATE... ONLY TWEAK TO PREVIOUS GRIDS WAS TO ADJUST HOURLY TEMPERATURE TRENDS MAINLY FOR THIS EVENING BASED ON UPSTREAM OBSERVATIONS IN ASSOCIATION THE COLD FRONT PASSAGE. TRIED TO INCORPORATE A NAM12/PREVIOUS FORECAST BLEND TO SHOW A BIT SHARPER OF A TEMP/DEW POINT DROP OFF WITH FRONT. OTHERWISE...OTHER FORECAST ELEMENTS FOR PERIOD ONE STILL APPEAR TO BE ON TRACK WITH HIGHS IN THE MID TO UPPER 70S. HRRR HINTING AT SOME CONVECTIVE DEVELOPMENT ALONG THE COLD FRONT ACROSS NORTHWEST INDIANA THIS EVENING...BUT STILL SOMEWHAT SUSPICIOUS OF THIS SOLUTION WITH INSTABILITY EXPECTED TO BE FAIRLY LIMITED UNTIL BECOMING MORE ELEVATED IN NATURE BEHIND THE FRONT. MARINE... SOUTH WINDS WILL CONTINUE TO INCREASE THIS AFTERNOON WITH LATEST MICHIGAN CITY OBSERVATIONS ALREADY INDICATING SOUTH GUSTS INTO THE 25 TO 30 KNOT RANGE. CANNOT COMPLETELY RULE OUT A FEW GUSTS TO NEAR GALES THIS AFTERNOON. OF GREATER CONCERN IS EARLY THIS EVENING IN ASSOCIATION WITH THE FRONTAL PASSAGE. A NARROW BUT STRONG CORRIDOR OF SURFACE PRESSURE RISES BEHIND THE FRONT SHOULD INDUCE A PERIOD OF WEST GUSTS TO NEAR GALES THIS EVENING...ESPECIALLY IN THE 00Z TO 04Z TIMEFRAME. HAVE HELD OFF ON ANY UPGRADED HEADLINES AT THIS TIME...BUT WILL NEED TO CONSIDER AT LEAST MENTION OF A FEW GUSTS TO GALE FORCE IN POSSIBLE NEARSHORE FORECAST AMENDMENTS THIS AFTERNOON. PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 703 AM EDT THU OCT 25 2012/ AVIATION.../12Z TAFS/ DVLPG SFC LOW ALONG STNRY FRONT OVER NE IA THIS MORNING WILL DEEPEN/INTENSIFY AS IT LIFTS NE TODAY CAUSING STNRY FRONT TO SURGE EASTWARD AS A CDFNT. STRONG SWLY WIND FIELD IN PLACE OVER THE AREA ATTM WITH KIWX VWP INDICATING 40KT IN LOWEST GATE AT 2KFT. THESE STRONG WINDS WILL MIX DOWN DURING THE DAY WITH SFC GUSTS 27-32KT EXPECTED... HIGHEST AT SBN. OTRWS... VFR CONDITIONS THROUGH THE DAY WITH JUST SCT CU. CDFNT EXPECTED TO MOVE THROUGH SBN BY 04Z AND FWA BY 08Z FOLLOWED BY A PERIOD OF SHOWERS WITH AVIATION CONDITIONS LOWERING AT LEAST TO MVFR AND PSBLY IFR. INSTABILITY WILL BE LIMITED BUT PRBLY SUFFICIENT FOR A FEW TSTMS AS FAR EAST AS NWRN INDIANA SO INCLUDED VCTS IN SBN TAF. WNDSHFT ON CDFNT WILL BE ABRUPT FROM SW-NW WITH STRONG LOW LEVEL CAA PROMOTING POST FRONTAL GUSTS THROUGH THE NIGHT. PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 410 AM EDT THU OCT 25 2012/ SHORT TERM... TODAY THROUGH FRIDAY NIGHT... THE FORECAST CHALLENGES THIS PERIOD INCLUDE THE CHANCES FOR A RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE AT SOUTH BEND TODAY AND THE TIMING OF A STRONG COLD FRONT THURSDAY NIGHT ALONG WITH ASSOCIATED PRECIPITATION. HIGHS WEDNESDAY WERE RATHER UNIFORM AROUND 78F DEGREES. ALTHOUGH A WARM AND MOIST FLOW SHOULD CONTINUE FROM THE SOUTH AND SOUTHWEST TODAY... SOMEWHAT COOLER AIR UNDER 925 MB SHOULD SPREAD INTO THE REGION IN THE LOW LEVELS. HAVE KEPT HIGHS A LITTLE LOWER THAN YESTERDAY... GENERALLY 75 TO 77 DEGREES...WHICH SHOULD KEEP THE TEMPERATURE BELOW THE RECORD HIGH OF 80 DEGREES AT SOUTH BEND. A STRONG COLD FRONT WILL MOVE ACROSS THE FORECAST AREA THURSDAY NIGHT. SOME QUESTION WHETHER EARLY STORMS WILL BE SURFACE BASED...INCREASING THE RISK FOR SEVERE STORMS WITH HIGH WINDS GIVEN MOMENTUM TRANSFER OF 50 TO 55 KNOTS IN THE 925/850 MB LEVEL. HOWEVER..THE SUBSIDENCE INVERSION AND MID LEVEL WARMING HAS INCREASED SIGNIFICANTLY UPSTREAM AS INDICATED ON THE LINCOLN RAOB. CURRENT THINKING IS THAT ANY STORMS WILL BE ELEVATED AND WILL BE POST FRONTAL...LIMITING GREATLY SEVERE WEATHER POTENTIAL. GIVEN THE STRENGTH OF THE FRONT WHICH INCLUDES ABOUT A 25 DEGREE TEMPERATURE DROP IN THE FIRST 100 MILES...TEMPERATURES WILL DROP TO BETWEEN 41F AND 43F OVER FAR SW AND WEST AREA. LASTLY...KEPT LAKE EFFECT/LAKE ENHANCED SHOWERS OUT. WINDS VEER TOO FAR TO THE NORTHEAST FRI NGT. LONG TERM.../SAT-WED/ UPR LEVEL TROF OVER THE ROCKIES THIS MORNING WILL MOVE EAST TO THE MS VALLEY AND DEEPEN A BIT BY SAT AS A SERIES OF MID LEVEL SHRTWVS MOVE THROUGH THE BASE OF THE TROF. MODELS HAVE TRENDED A LITTLE FASTER WITH SHRTWV EXPECTED TO MOVE THROUGH OUR AREA SAT... THUS HAVE LOWERED POPS IN THIS PERIOD...ESPECIALLY IN THE AFTN. MEDIUM RANGE MODELS HANDLING OF THE TROF MOVG INTO THE GRTLKS AND ITS INTERACTION WITH WRN ATLANTIC HURRICANE SANDY HAS BEEN ERRATIC... BUT THERE IS FAIR AGREEMENT ON 00Z RUNS THAT A RATHER DEEP CLOSED/STACKED LOW WILL FORM OR MOVE INTO THE LWR GRTLKS EARLY NEXT WEEK WITH IMPLICATION THAT WRN FRINGE OF ITS PRECIP SHIELD AND/OR LAKE EFFECT OFF LAKE MICHIGAN WITH N-NW LOW LEVEL FLOW WOULD IMPACT OUR AREA. STILL PLENTY OF UNCERTAINTY GIVEN POOR RUN-RUN MODEL CONTINUITY AND CONSIDERABLE DIFFERENCES AMONG VARIOUS MODELS ON DETAILS/EVOLUTION OF THE LOW... THUS BLEND OF MODELS AND PREVIOUS FCST YIELDING JUST SLIGHT CHC POPS WAS FOLLOWED WITH ONLY COSMETIC ADJUSTMENTS FOR DAYS6-7. WITH LITTLE MOVEMENT AND GRADUAL DEEPENING OF UPR TROF OVER THE GRTLKS THROUGH THE LONG TERM PERIOD... TEMPS SHOULD BE BLO NORMAL WITH LITTLE DAILY CHANGE IN HIGHS/LOWS. FCST HIGHS GENERALLY IN THE M-U40S AND LOWS IN THE L-M30S EACH DAY. && .IWX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... IN...NONE. MI...NONE. OH...NONE. LM...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY UNTIL 6 AM EDT SATURDAY FOR LMZ043-046. && $$ SHORT TERM...SKIPPER LONG TERM...JT AVIATION...MARSILI UPDATE...MARSILI MARINE...MARSILI
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS TWIN CITIES/CHANHASSEN MN
1215 PM CDT THU OCT 25 2012 .UPDATED FOR 18Z AVIATION DISCUSSION... .DISCUSSION... PRIMARY FORECAST CONCERNS THIS MORNING ARE PRECIP TYPE AND AMOUNTS ASSOCIATED WITH A SHORTWAVE TROUGH EJECTING OUT OF THE ROCKIES. AT THE LOWER LEVELS...MOISTURE TRANSPORT OVERRUNNING THE SURFACE BOUNDARY CONTINUES TO SPAWN CONVECTION FROM SOUTHERN MINNESOTA INTO WEST CENTRAL WI. EMBEDDED THUNDER WILL CONTINUE TO BE POSSIBLE ACROSS THE EASTERN HALF OF THE FORECAST AREA THIS MORNING WHERE ELEVATED INSTABILITY EXISTS. MEANWHILE...THE ATTENDANT DEFORMATION SNOW BAND HAS ENTERED WEST CENTRAL MN...AND WILL GRADUALLY EXPAND EASTWARD ACROSS THE AREA OVER THE NEXT 12 HOURS AS THE TROUGH SHIFTS EAST. HAVE SPED UP THE TRANSITION OF RAIN TO SNOW...PER CURRENT TRENDS AND NAM/GFS/RAP/SREF/ARW BUFKIT PROFILES...WHICH INDICATE SNOW MIXING IN WITH THE RAIN OVER THE REMAINDER OF CENTRAL MN BETWEEN 15Z AND 18Z...AND IN WEST CENTRAL WI BETWEEN 18Z AND 21Z. THE HRRR AND HI-RESW-NMMEAST SIMULATED PRECIP TYPE PROGS COMPLEMENT THIS THINKING AS WELL. SNOWFALL AMOUNTS STILL APPEAR TO TOP OUT FROM 1 TO 2 INCHES OVER WEST CENTRAL MN...WITH NOT MORE THAN A TRACE EXPECTED TO THE EAST DUE TO THE EXPECTATION THAT PRECIP WILL BE SHUTTING OFF AROUND OR SHORTLY AFTER SNOW DEVELOPS. SURFACE TEMPERATURES WILL REMAIN STEADY OR GRADUALLY FALL THIS AFTERNOON AS STRONG COLD ADVECTION ENSUES IN THE WAKE OF THE TROUGH. ACCOMPANYING NORTHWEST WINDS OF 15 TO 25 MPH WILL CREATE QUITE BRISK CONDITIONS THIS AFTERNOON...AS WIND CHILLS DECREASE INTO THE 20S. PRECIPITATION SHOULD COME TO AN END BY THIS EVENING...WITH MOSTLY CLEAR SKIES EXPECTED FOR TONIGHT. TEMPERATURES WILL FALL INTO THE 25 TO 30 DEGREE RANGE FOR THE MOST PART. CONTINUED COLD TEMPERATURES WILL PERSIST FOR FRIDAY...WITH HIGHS ONLY REACHING THE UPPER 30S AND LOWER 40S. BROAD SURFACE HIGH PRESSURE AND MID LEVEL TROUGHING WILL TRANSLATE TO CONTINUED BELOW NORMAL TEMPERATURES THROUGH THE WEEKEND. HIGHS WILL MAINLY RANGE FROM AROUND 40 TO 45 DEGREES ON SATURDAY AND SUNDAY...WITH SUB-FREEZING LOWS. FRIDAY NIGHT APPEARS TO BE THE COLDEST NIGHT OF THE WEEKEND...WHEN READINGS ARE EXPECTED TO DIP TO BETWEEN 20 AND 25 DEGREES. MORE CLOUD COVER AND EVEN LIGHT SNOW WILL BE POSSIBLE FOR SATURDAY NIGHT ACROSS WEST CENTRAL AND SOUTH CENTRAL MN...AS A WEAK MID LEVEL WAVE CLIPS THE SOUTHERN HALF OF THE STATE. TEMPERATURES WILL SLOWLY MODERATE AT THE START OF THE UPCOMING WEEK...WITH HIGHS IN THE MID 40S TO LOWER 50S BY WEDNESDAY. && .AVIATION.../18Z TAF ISSUANCE/ COUPLE OF SNOW BANDS MOVING ACROSS MN PORTION OF THE AREA...WITH LIGHT RAIN AFFECTING WESTERN WISCONSIN. INITIAL SNOW BAND OVER EAST CENTRAL MN WILL MOVE EAST INTO WISCONSIN FOR THE AFTERNOON. WILL SEE RAIN/SNOW MIX POSSIBLE CHANGING OVER TO ALL SNOW LATE AFTERNOON BEFORE ENDING AT KEAU. SECOND PERSISTENT SNOW BAND MATCHES WELL WITH HE MINUS 15C OMEGA FIELD AND THIS WILL LIFT NORTHEAST AND WEAKEN THROUGH 20Z. SNOW WILL HAVE ENDED OVER THE FAR WESTERN AREA AND SOON AT KSTC...WHERE SOME SLUSHY ACCUMULATION ON GRASSY AREAS LIKELY OCCURRED. LESS THAN AN INCH THOUGH. CEILING IMPROVING A BIT DIRECTLY BEHIND TROUGH...BUT SOME CONCERN OF MVFR CEILINGS DEVELOPING BEHIND TROUGH LATER TONIGHT. SUBSIDENCE WILL BE STRONG INITIALLY OR DIRECTLY BEHIND TROUGH...SO WILL CONTINUE TREND OF REMAINING SCT OVERNIGHT. NORTHWEST WINDS WILL DIMINISH THIS EVENING AND COULD BECOME GUSTY AGAIN OVER EASTERN AREAS AT LEAST INTO EARLY AFTERNOON...BEFORE RIDGE BUILD IN ENOUGH. MAY SEE SOME BKN VFR CEILINGS AGAIN...ESPECIALLY EAST IN THE LATE MORNING/AFTERNOON WITH RESIDUAL MOISTURE AND SOME NEGATIVE CU RULES INDICATED. KMSP... IFR CONDITIONS FOR A FEW HOURS YET AS A COUPLE OF SNOW BANDS MOVE THROUGH. MAY MIX WITH RAIN BETWEEN STRONGER VERTICAL MOTION. SHOULD END BY 22Z WITH VFR CONDITIONS THEREAFTER. SOME CONCERN OF LOWER CEILINGS MOVING IN AGAIN LATER TONIGHT FROM THE WEST...BUT WILL REMAIN SCT FOR NOW. STRONG NORTHWEST WINDS WILL DIMINISH THIS EVENING AND MAY BECOME GUSTY AGAIN INTO FRI AFTERNOON. /OUTLOOK FOR KMSP/ FRI AFTN...VFR. WINDS WNW 10 G 20KTS. SAT...VFR. WINDS LGT AND VRB. SUN...MVFR/VFR. CHC -RASN. WINDS SE AT 5 KTS. && .MPX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... MN...NONE. WI...NONE. && $$ LS/DE
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS KANSAS CITY/PLEASANT HILL MO
341 PM CDT Thu Oct 25 2012 .DISCUSSION... Tonight through Saturday... As precipitation exits the forecast area this afternoon, the main focus for the short term will be temperatures, particularly tonight and Friday night lows. Models don`t seem to have a good handle on the widespread stratus building southward across portions of eastern Nebraska and Iowa, which has the potential to strongly impact the low temperature forecast tonight. Current water vapor imagery shows some signs of developing subsidence behind the departing upper-level jet streak in the eastern Dakotas; however, it is yet to be seen whether this will translate to erosion of the low-level cloud field this evening. Both the NAM and RAP do dry out first the midlevels and eventually the low levels by 06z across southeast Nebraska and into the forecast area, so have still continued a decreasing trend in cloudiness tonight, leading to a cooler low temperature forecast across the area. However, with some near-surface moisture remaining and a more rapid temperature fall after 06z, do not think that a freeze will be likely across the region even if clouds clear out completely. The setup on Friday night looks much more prototypical for a hard freeze, with a 1032 mb surface high filtering into the central Plains, pushing the surface ridge axis over northwest Missouri shortly after midnight. Temperatures could easily drop into the mid to upper 20`s across the majority of the region Saturday morning, and would likely remain below freezing for several hours. If the forecast remains on track, a freeze warning will be needed for areas that have not already experienced a hard freeze this fall. The ridge axis will remain over the region through early afternoon on Saturday, keeping daytime temperatures 10 to 15 degrees below normal in the upper 40s to lower 50s. Laflin Medium Range (Sunday through Thursday): High forecast confidence this period as upper level flow remains stagnant in the wake of a large downstream block formed by the merging of an eastern trough and Hurricane Sandy into a potential superstorm. This will maintain a steady northwest upper flow regime over the regime which further amplify late in the period as additional troughing builds into the Pacific Northwest. All in all, precipitation chances are near zero through the period and the effects of negative thermal advection vs. insolation will generally offset each other. This will keep temperatures steady through much of the week with highs in the low-mid 50s and lows in the low-mid 30s. Bookbinder && .AVIATION... For the 18Z TAFs, low level lift should shift eastward over the next hour, ending the drizzle at the Kansas City terminals. Otherwise, blustery conditions will continue with northwest winds gusting to around 25 knots with widespread IFR ceilings through mid afternoon. For ground crews, temps will hold steady in the mid 40s. Large scale subsidence should overspread the terminals between 22 and 00Z, allowing ceilings to lift to VFR and then scatter out. Wind gusts should end by 01Z, with a northwest direction persisting overnight as speeds decrease to 8-10 knots. Mainly clear skies expected overnight into Friday morning. Bookbinder && .EAX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... MO...NONE. KS...NONE. && $$ WFO EAX
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS OMAHA/VALLEY NE
559 PM CDT THU OCT 25 2012 .AVIATION... 00Z TAF FOR KOMA...KOFK...KLNK MODELS ARE HAVING A VERY DIFFICULT TIME WITH THE CLOUD FORECAST OVERNIGHT. MOST MODELS WOULD INDC GENERALLY CLEAR SKIES WITH DECREASING WINDS...BUT THIS APPEARS UNLIKELY GIVEN THE LARGE SC DECK ACROSS...AND UPSTREAM FM THE AREA CURRENTLY. THUS WE WILL GO WITH A PERSISTENCE FORECAST AT THIS TIME UNTIL MODEL FORECASTS IMPROVE...OR CLEAR TRENDS IN OBSERVATION DATA DEVELOP. THUS WE WILL HAVE MVFR CIGS AT ALL SITES THROUGH THE NIGHT. NORTHWEST WINDS WILL BE DIMINISHING THROUGH THE NIGHT THOUGH AS THE PRESSURE GRADIENT DECREASES. BOUSTEAD && .PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 313 PM CDT THU OCT 25 2012/ SHORT TERM...TONIGHT THROUGH SUNDAY. MAIN FORECAST PROBLEM IN THE VERY NEAR TERM IS AN EXPANDING DECK OF STRATUS THAT NO MODEL EXCEPT THE RAP SEEMS TO BE HANDLING ALL THAT WELL. THUS...HAVE TRENDED CLOUD GRIDS UPWARD TONIGHT...BUT AM STILL THINKING THAT SOME OF THIS MAY DISSIPATE THIS EVENING AS MORE ANTICYCLONIC FLOW CONTINUES TO TAKE HOLD ACROSS THE REGION. IT WILL PROBABLY BE A COLD NIGHT WITH LOWS IN THE 20S AS SKIES SCATTER OUT. GIVEN THE RECENT RAINS...THERE COULD BE PATCHY FOG OVERNIGHT...BUT PROBABLY NOT A BIG ENOUGH OF CONCERN TO ADD TO THE GRIDS. HIGH PRESSURE CONTINUES TO MOVE OFF THE HIGH PLAINS ON FRIDAY WITH NORTHWESTERLY FLOW AND SOME MID AND HIGH CLOUDS. HIGH PRESSURE DRIFTS OVER THE FORECAST AREA FRIDAY EVENING WITH A RETURN FLOW SETTING UP ON SATURDAY. A NEW AREA OF LOW PRESSURE DEVELOPS ACROSS SOUTHWEST SOUTH DAKOTA THROUGH THE DAY SATURDAY WHILE AN UPPER WAVE MOVES THROUGH THE NORTHERN PLAINS. WARM AIR ADVECTION COULD RESULT IN A FEW SHOWERS NEAR THE SD/NE BORDER SATURDAY AFTERNOON...THEN SLIDING EAST SOUTHEAST DOWN THE MISSOURI RIVER VALLEY SATURDAY NIGHT. THE NAM IS CONSIDERABLY WARMER...WHICH IS PROBABLY TOO WARM. BUT...THERE COULD BE A FEW RAIN SHOWER OR EVEN A SNOW FLAKE MIXED IN MAINLY NORTH OF OMAHA SATURDAY NIGHT. DRY WEATHER IS EXPECTED ON SUNDAY. LONG TERM...SUNDAY NIGHT THROUGH THURSDAY. MEDIUM RANGE MODELS NOT SHOWING MUCH POTENTIAL FOR ANY PCPN THRU MOST OF NEXT WEEK. OTHERWISE...LATEST GFS BLOCKING INDICES ADVERTISING UPSTREAM BLOCKAGE DEVELOPING THRU DAY 7...ALLOWING FOR AMPLIFIED RIDGING OVER THE ROCKIES/WRN HIGH PLAINS WITH 2 TROFS FLANKING THE CONUS. THIS THEN LEADING TO THRUST OF COLD AIR DOWN THRU THE UPPER MIDWEST/GREAT LAKES REGION REACHING ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE SERN STATES. AT THIS POINT THEN THE MAIN INTEREST IS HOW FAR WILL THE WRN PERIPHERY OF CAA PUSH IT INTO THE CWA BEFORE AFOREMENTIONED ROCKIES/WRN HIGH PLAINS RIDGE BUILDS IN. COMPARISON OF 1000-500MB THKNS DAYS 5-7...ECM DETERMINIST PROGS CLEARLY SHOW IT TO BE THE WARMER OF THE TWO. THIS ALSO REFLECTED THRU WARMER ECM MOS MAX/MIN TEMPS RELATIVE TO THE MEX. GOING FCST APPEAR TO BE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE WARMER ECM SOLUTION...THUS SEE NO REASON TO MAKE ANY CHANGE DEPICTING WARMING TREND IN THE EXTEND PDS. DEE && .OAX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... NE...NONE. IA...NONE. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS OMAHA/VALLEY NE
313 PM CDT THU OCT 25 2012 .SHORT TERM...TONIGHT THROUGH SUNDAY. MAIN FORECAST PROBLEM IN THE VERY NEAR TERM IS AN EXPANDING DECK OF STRATUS THAT NO MODEL EXCEPT THE RAP SEEMS TO BE HANDLING ALL THAT WELL. THUS...HAVE TRENDED CLOUD GRIDS UPWARD TONIGHT...BUT AM STILL THINKING THAT SOME OF THIS MAY DISSIPATE THIS EVENING AS MORE ANTICYCLONIC FLOW CONTINUES TO TAKE HOLD ACROSS THE REGION. IT WILL PROBABLY BE A COLD NIGHT WITH LOWS IN THE 20S AS SKIES SCATTER OUT. GIVEN THE RECENT RAINS...THERE COULD BE PATCHY FOG OVERNIGHT...BUT PROBABLY NOT A BIG ENOUGH OF CONCERN TO ADD TO THE GRIDS. HIGH PRESSURE CONTINUES TO MOVE OFF THE HIGH PLAINS ON FRIDAY WITH NORTHWESTERLY FLOW AND SOME MID AND HIGH CLOUDS. HIGH PRESSURE DRIFTS OVER THE FORECAST AREA FRIDAY EVENING WITH A RETURN FLOW SETTING UP ON SATURDAY. A NEW AREA OF LOW PRESSURE DEVELOPS ACROSS SOUTHWEST SOUTH DAKOTA THROUGH THE DAY SATURDAY WHILE AN UPPER WAVE MOVES THROUGH THE NORTHERN PLAINS. WARM AIR ADVECTION COULD RESULT IN A FEW SHOWERS NEAR THE SD/NE BORDER SATURDAY AFTERNOON...THEN SLIDING EAST SOUTHEAST DOWN THE MISSOURI RIVER VALLEY SATURDAY NIGHT. THE NAM IS CONSIDERABLY WARMER...WHICH IS PROBABLY TOO WARM. BUT...THERE COULD BE A FEW RAIN SHOWER OR EVEN A SNOW FLAKE MIXED IN MAINLY NORTH OF OMAHA SATURDAY NIGHT. DRY WEATHER IS EXPECTED ON SUNDAY. .LONG TERM...SUNDAY NIGHT THROUGH THURSDAY. MEDIUM RANGE MODELS NOT SHOWING MUCH POTENTIAL FOR ANY PCPN THRU MOST OF NEXT WEEK. OTHERWISE...LATEST GFS BLOCKING INDICES ADVERTISING UPSTREAM BLOCKAGE DEVELOPING THRU DAY 7...ALLOWING FOR AMPLIFIED RIDGING OVER THE ROCKIES/WRN HIGH PLAINS WITH 2 TROFS FLANKING THE CONUS. THIS THEN LEADING TO THRUST OF COLD AIR DOWN THRU THE UPPER MIDWEST/GREAT LAKES REGION REACHING ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE SERN STATES. AT THIS POINT THEN THE MAIN INTEREST IS HOW FAR WILL THE WRN PERIPHERY OF CAA PUSH IT INTO THE CWA BEFORE AFOREMENTIONED ROCKIES/WRN HIGH PLAINS RIDGE BUILDS IN. COMPARISON OF 1000-500MB THKNS DAYS 5-7...ECM DETERMINIST PROGS CLEARLY SHOW IT TO BE THE WARMER OF THE TWO. THIS ALSO REFLECTED THRU WARMER ECM MOS MAX/MIN TEMPS RELATIVE TO THE MEX. GOING FCST APPEAR TO BE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE WARMER ECM SOLUTION...THUS SEE NO REASON TO MAKE ANY CHANGE DEPICTING WARMING TREND IN THE EXTEND PDS. DEE && .AVIATION...18Z TAFS FOR KOMA...KLNK...AND KOFK. EXTENSIVE STRATUS DECK CONTINUES TO SPILL SOUTHEAST FROM THE DAKOTAS. WILL GO WITH MVFR CONDITIONS THROUGH THE ENTIRE TAF PERIOD. NO MODEL DATA HAS A GOOD HANDLE ON CURRENT CLOUDS AND SO HAVE BASED THE TAF FORECAST ON CURRENT TRENDS. KERN && .OAX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... NE...NONE. IA...NONE. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION FOR SOUTHEAST SD/SOUTHWEST MN/NORTHWEST IA
NWS SIOUX FALLS SD
257 PM CDT THU OCT 25 2012 .DISCUSSION.../ISSUED AT 257 PM CDT/ PRECIPITATION HAS ENDED ACROSS THE ENTIRE CWA LATE THIS AFTERNOON...LEAVING BEHIND A BROAD AREA OF STRATUS OVER THE REGION. THESE CLOUDS WILL BE THE MAIN CHALLENGE FOR THE SHORTER TERM PERIOD...WITH MODELS NOT HANDLING THE LOW CLOUDS WELL. RUC LOOKS TO BE THE BEST WITH THE LOW LEVEL RH FIELD...AND KEEPS THE STRATUS OVER OUR AREA THROUGH AT LEAST THE EARLY EVENING. AS HIGH PRESSURE BUILDS INTO THE REGION FROM THE WEST OVERNIGHT...A LESSENING SURFACE GRADIENT WILL ALLOW WINDS TO COME DOWN BY EARLY EVENING. WENT ON THE LOW SIDE OF GUIDANCE WITH REGARD TO LOWS TONIGHT...GENERALLY UPPER TEENS TO LOWER 20S...WITH RELATIVELY LIGHT WINDS...SOME POSSIBLE SNOW COVER IN SOME AREAS...AND BANKING ON CLOUDS BEGINNING TO BREAK UP OVERNIGHT. IF CLOUDS PERSIST...IT MAY NOT GET AS COLD AS CURRENTLY IN THE FORECAST. ANOTHER CHALLENGE WILL BE WHETHER ANY FOG IS ABLE TO DEVELOP TOWARD FRIDAY MORNING. WHILE NOT AN IDEAL SET UP WITH LIGHT NORTHWESTERLY WINDS...THINKING IS IF CLOUDS CLEAR OUT AND WINDS DROP OFF...IN CONJUNCTION WITH ABUNDANT NEAR SURFACE MOISTURE FROM RECENT RAINFALL/SNOW MELT...FOG WILL DEVELOP IN SOME AREAS. DID NOT INCLUDE IN THE FORECAST AT THIS POINT...HOWEVER EVENING SHIFT MAY UPDATE IF IT LOOKS MORE LIKELY. FRIDAY LOOKS TO BE ANOTHER COOL DAY WITH THE CENTER OF THE HIGH PRESSURE SLIDING OVERHEAD BY AFTERNOON. THERMAL PROFILES ACTUALLY COOL A BIT OVER TODAY...THOUGH MODELS HINT AT SOME MID CLOUDS STREAMING INTO OUR WEST...THERE WILL GENERALLY BE MORE SUN THAN TODAY WITH HIGHS REACHING INTO UPPER 30S TO LOWER 40S. /JM FRIDAY NIGHT WILL SEE A WEAK RIDGE OF HIGH PRESSURE MOVE ACROSS THE AREA...LOCATED NEAR NORTHWEST IOWA BY 12Z SATURDAY. TO THE WEST SOUTHERLY FLOW AS WELL AS CLOUD COVER WILL INCREASE AS A SHORTWAVE MOVES INTO THE NORTHERN AND CENTRAL ROCKIES. THIS WILL MAKE FOR TRICKY LOW TEMPERATURES FORECASTING. WILL LEAN A LITTLE MORE TOWARD THE CONSMOS IN NORTHWEST IA WHERE WINDS WILL BE LIGHTEST AND CLOSER TO THE CONSRAW IN CENTRAL SD WHERE WINDS AND CLOUDS WILL LIKELY KEEP TEMPERATURES A LITTLE MILDER. LATE SATURDAY AFTERNOON AND SATURDAY NIGHT WILL PROVE TO BE THE NEXT CHANCE FOR PRECIPITATION. THERE ARE SOME DIFFERENCES AMONGST THE MODELS LEADING TOWARDS LOWER CONFIDENCE IN A SOLUTION. THE GFS IS THE MOST BOISTEROUS LEAVING COLDER AIR IN PLACE AND BRINGING HEAVIER QPF AMOUNTS TO THE NORTHERN CWA. THE NAM IS MUCH WARMER IN THE LOWER LEVELS THAN THE GFS WHILE THE ECMWF IS A LITTLE BIT WARMER. BOTH MODELS WOULD LIKELY SUPPORT SNOW HOWEVER AS THE LOW LEVELS ARE FAIRLY DRY AND WOULD EASILY SWITCH TO SNOW. SREF SOUNDINGS ALL OVER THE PLACE DURING THIS TIME FRAME AS WELL. DYNAMICALLY THERE IS SUPPORT FOR SOME PRECIPITATION WITH ICE PROCESSES LIKELY AS THE -12 TO -18 DEGREE C LAYER IS FROM ABOUT 9000 TO 15000 FEET AND THERE WOULD LIKELY BE A LITTLE BIT OF FRONTAL FORCING AROUND THIS LAYER. HOWEVER...FRONTAL FORCING WEAK AND WAVE NOT VERY WELL DEFINED SO BELIEVE THAT THE NAM AND GFS OVERDOING QPF AMOUNTS IN THE THIRD TO HALF AN INCH RANGE. THE MUCH STRONGER AND BETTER DEFINED SYSTEM THAT JUST MOVED THROUGH TODAY BARELY PRODUCED AMOUNTS THIS HIGH SO WILL LOWER BY ABOUT TWO THIRDS. WILL INCREASE POPS INTO THE LIKELY CATEGORY SATURDAY NIGHT ALONG THE HIGHWAY 14 CORRIDOR HOWEVER AS SOME MEASURABLE SNOWFALL LOOKS POSSIBLE. WILL KEEP HIGHS THE COOLEST OVER THE NORTHERN CWA WHERE A MIX OF POTENTIALLY THICKER CLOUD COVER AND COOLER LOW LEVEL THERMAL FIELD WHILE THE SOUTH COULD MIX JUST A BIT WITH A SOUTHERLY COMPONENT. LOOKING AT LOWER 40S NORTH TO NEAR 50 SOUTH. MOST OF THE SNOWFALL WILL BE EAST OF THE AREA ON SUNDAY MORNING WITH GRADUALLY CLEARING SKIES THROUGH THE DAY. WINDS WILL NOT BE VERY STRONG SO COOL HIGH TEMPERATURES IN THE MID 40S TO AROUND 50 WILL NOT FEEL TOO BAD. IN THE LATTER PERIODS(MON/THU)...NOT MUCH CHANGE IN THIS PERIOD AS MODELS CONTINUE TO CONVERGE ON THE ECMWF SOLUTION. WHICH HAS BEEN VERY CONSISTENT THIS WEEK. BASICALLY LOOKING AT A RIDGE OF HIGH PRESSURE AT THE SURFACE VARYING FROM ABOUT THE BIG SIOUX RIVER VALLEY EAST INTO WESTERN MINNESOTA. THIS WILL KEEP COOL CONDITIONS IN PLACE BUT WINDS WILL LIKELY REMAIN FAIRLY CALM. THE WESTERN CWA WILL SEE THE BEST CHANCE FOR ABOVE NORMAL TEMPERATURES WHILE SOUTHWEST MINNESOTA WILL HAVE THE BEST CHANCE AT NORMAL TO A BIT BELOW NORMAL TEMPERATURES. /08 && .AVIATION.../FOR THE 18Z TAF ISSUANCE/ WITH MODEL DIFFERENCES...CONFIDENCE RATHER LOW WITH REGARD TO HOW QUICKLY STRATUS DEPARTS THE REGION...BUT THINK CLOUDS WILL BEGIN TO LIFT A BIT BY LATE THIS AFTERNOON. BY TONIGHT...NORTHWESTERLY WINDS WILL BECOME RELATIVELY LIGHT. DEPENDENT ON ANY REMAINING CLOUD COVER AND HOW LIGHT WINDS BECOME OVERNIGHT...WILL BE THE POSSIBILITY OF FOG FORMATION OVER PORTIONS OF THE AREA VERY LATE TONIGHT INTO FRIDAY MORNING WITH ABUNDANT NEAR SURFACE MOISTURE WITH MELTING SNOW. && .FSD WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... SD...NONE. MN...NONE. IA...NONE. NE...NONE. && $$