Forecast Discussions mentioning any of "HRRR" "RR" "RUC13" "RUC" received at GSD on 11/25/11


AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS LITTLE ROCK AR
1131 PM CST TUE NOV 22 2011 .AVIATION... EXPECT LOW CLOUDS IN N AR TO BEGIN BREAKING UP BY MID MORNING. WILL HAVE TO WATCH FOR BR DEVELOPMENT WHERE CLOUDS HAVE CLEARED OUT. OTHERWISE...MOSTLY CLEAR SKIES FOR THIS FORECAST PERIOD. && .PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 855 PM CST TUE NOV 22 2011/ DISCUSSION... OVERALL FORECAST ON TRACK. WILL FINE TUNE CLOUDS AND TEMPS IN OVERNIGHT PERIOD BASED ON LATEST TRENDS. STRATUS DECK CONTINUES TO ROTATE AROUND THE SURFACE LOW BACK TO AR AND DO EXPECT SOME CONTINUED CLOUDS OVER NORTHERN TO NE AR. WILL FINE TUNE NORTH AR THE MOST. BACK EDGE IS SLOWLY MOVING EAST BUT WILL BE SLOW...WHILE DOWN SLOP OFF THE OZARKS AND OUACHITAS TO HELP DISPERSE CLOUDS. WINDS WILL REMAIN UP A BIT TONIGHT AND SHOULD HELP MIX SOME OF THE MOISTURE OUT. 00Z KLZK SOUNDING SHOWED MOISTURE TRAPPED AROUND 1K FT TO 5K FT. PARTLY CLOUDY TO CLEARING IS EXPECTED MAINLY CENTRAL AND ESPECIALLY SOUTH. SURFACE RIDGE IS BUILDING SE AND BRINGING COOLER AND DRIER AIR. (59) PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 549 PM CST TUE NOV 22 2011/ AVIATION... MVFR CLOUDS STILL PREVALENT ACROSS THE STATE...WITH THE MOST WIDESPREAD AREA OF MVFR CIGS IN THE HIGHER TERRAIN OF WESTERN AND NORTHERN ARKANSAS. MOS GUIDANCE NOT VERY KEEN ON CHANCES FOR LINGERING CIGS...BUT RUC DATA AS WELL AS A FAIRLY EXPANSIVE STRATUS FIELD UPSTREAM OF ARKANSAS SEEN ON SATELLITE IMAGERY WOULD SUGGEST OTHERWISE. HAVE GONE WITH MVFR/IFR CIGS FOR KHRO AND KBPK THROUGH THE NIGHT THEN CLEARING OUT A FEW HOURS AFTER DAYBREAK TOMORROW. ALSO INCLUDED MVFR CIGS AT KHOT AS IT IS CLOSE ENOUGH TO THE HIGH TERRAIN OF THE OUACHITAS TO LIKELY HOLD ON TO CIGS. FOR KLIT AND KPBF...VFR CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED OVERNIGHT AS DRYING DOWNSLOPE FLOW OFF THE OUACHITAS AND OZARKS HOLDS CLOUDS AT BAY. FINALLY...KLLQ SHOULD SEE IMPROVEMENT TO VFR CONDITIONS BY 04Z AND THEN HOLD AT VFR LEVELS THE REST OF THE TAF PERIOD. WINDS WILL BE LIGHT NORTHWEST THROUGH THE PERIOD. PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 308 PM CST TUE NOV 22 2011/ SHORT TERM...TONIGHT THROUGH FRIDAY NIGHT A COLD FRONT PUSHED TO THE EAST TODAY...TAKING WIDESPREAD HEAVY RAIN OUT OF ARKANSAS. HIGH PRESSURE WILL BUILD INTO THE REGION FROM THE WEST OVERNIGHT/WEDNESDAY. THERE WERE ALREADY SOME BREAKS IN THE CLOUDS THIS AFTERNOON...WITH CLOUDS CONTINUING TO DECREASE TONIGHT. DRY CONDITIONS WILL BE NOTED THROUGH FRIDAY. TEMPERATURES WILL BE CLOSE TO NORMAL INITIALLY. READINGS WILL CLIMB ABOVE NORMAL AS HIGH PRESSURE MOVES AWAY AS THE WEEK PROGRESSES AND SOUTHERLY WINDS KICK IN. LATE FRIDAY/FRIDAY NIGHT...A STORM SYSTEM AND COLD FRONT WILL APPROACH FROM THE WEST. CLOUDS WILL INCREASE...WITH GOOD CHANCES FOR SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS SPREADING INTO ARKANSAS. LONG TERM...SATURDAY THROUGH TUESDAY THE LONG TERM PD WILL BEGIN WITH A COLD FRONT SWEEPING THROUGH THE STATE AND USHERING IN MUCH COLDER AIR FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE HOLIDAY WEEKEND. HAVE GONE WITH LIKELY POPS ON SAT AND MENTIONED THUNDERSTORMS THOUGH DO NOT EXPECT MUCH IN THE WAY OF SVR WX AS MSTR RETURN REMAINS LIMITED. DUE TO ITS QUICK MOTION...THIS SYSTEM SHOULD NOT DROP AS MUCH RAIN AS THE SYSTEM THAT JUST DEPARTED THE STATE THOUGH 1 TO 2 INCH AMOUNTS CANNOT BE RULED OUT. SUNDAY THROUGH TUESDAY WILL FEATURE BELOW NORMAL TEMPS AND STILL THAT OUTSIDE SHOT OF A SNOW FLURRY OR TWO...MAINLY IN NORTHEASTERN AR SUN NIGHT AND MON. THIS STILL LOOKS LIKE A VERY LOW PROBABILITY EVENT...SO HAVE NOT YET INTRODUCED ANY OF THE WINTRY STUFF TO THE GRIDS. && .PRELIMINARY POINT TEMPS/POPS... BATESVILLE AR 58 42 59 39 / 10 10 0 0 CAMDEN AR 59 45 64 42 / 10 10 0 0 HARRISON AR 50 40 59 38 / 0 10 0 0 HOT SPRINGS AR 63 43 62 41 / 10 10 0 0 LITTLE ROCK AR 62 43 61 41 / 10 10 0 0 MONTICELLO AR 66 46 64 42 / 10 10 0 0 MOUNT IDA AR 62 41 63 41 / 10 10 0 0 MOUNTAIN HOME AR 52 41 59 38 / 10 10 0 0 NEWPORT AR 61 42 60 40 / 10 10 0 0 PINE BLUFF AR 64 45 63 41 / 10 10 0 0 RUSSELLVILLE AR 58 40 61 40 / 10 10 0 0 SEARCY AR 63 42 60 40 / 10 10 0 0 STUTTGART AR 65 44 62 41 / 10 10 0 0 && .LZK WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...NONE. && $$ AVIATION...28
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS ALBANY NY
1018 PM EST THU NOV 24 2011 .SYNOPSIS... THE WEATHER PATTERN WILL BE TRANQUIL FOR THIS HOLIDAY WEEKEND WITH HIGH PRESSURE REMAINING IN CONTROL ALONG THE EASTERN SEABOARD. TEMPERATURES WILL SLOWLY MODERATE TO ABOVE NORMAL AS SOUTHERLY WINDS INCREASE. THE NEXT CHANCE FOR SHOWERS ARRIVES LATE SUNDAY INTO MONDAY. && .NEAR TERM /THROUGH FRIDAY/... AS OF 1000 PM EST...THE IR SATELLITE PICTURE SHOWS SOME THIN CIRRUS MOVING ACROSS ERN NY. NORTH AND WEST OF THE CAPITAL REGION... SOME STRATUS IS STILL LINGERING OVER THE ADIRONDACKS. THE MOSTLY CLEAR SKIES AND LIGHT TO CALM WINDS HAVE ALLOWED SOME PATCHY RADIATIONAL FOG FORMATION OVER MUCH OF THE FCST AREA. THE SFC SOILS ARE STILL A BIT WET FROM THE HVY RAINFALL ON TUESDAY NIGHT-WED. THE FOG IS MOST ROBUST OVER THE LAKE GEORGE REGION...AND EAST OF THE SRN GREEN MTNS. WE HAVE ADDED PATCHY FOG OVERNIGHT FOR LOCATIONS LESS THAN 1000 FEET ACROSS ERN NY AND WRN NEW ENGLAND. TEMPS VARY WIDELY ACROSS THE REGION WITH MINS REACHED OR EXCEEDED OVER THE LAKE GEORGE REGION...AND THE BERKSHIRES. WE HAVE BROUGHT MINS DOWN A FEW DEGREES WHERE IT RADIATED QUICKLY OVER THE LAKE GEORGE REGION...NRN AND CNTRL TACONICS...AND THE BERKSHIRES. EXPECT LOWS TO RANGE FROM THE M20S TO M30S ACROSS THE REGION. A WEAK THERMAL TROUGH WILL MOVE THROUGH THE REGION OVERNIGHT...AND WE ARE SEEING WINDS INCREASE FROM THE S/SW OVER W-CNTRL NY. TEMPS MAY ACTUALLY CREEP UP A FEW DEGREES TOWARD SUNRISE. PREVIOUS NEAR TERMS... AS OF 630 PM EST...HAPPY THANKSGIVING TO ALL ! HIGH PRESSURE AT THE SFC CONTINUES TO RIDGE IN FROM THE TN VALLEY AND THE MID ATLANTIC REGION. A WEAK IMPULSE IN THE H500 W/NW FLOW ALOFT CONTINUES TO MOVE ACROSS THE ERN GREAT LAKES REGION...AND UPSTATE NY. THE STRATUS IS HANGING TOUGH ON THE 11-3.9 MICRON SATELLITE LOOP NORTH AND WEST OF THE CAPITAL REGION. WE INCREASED THE CLOUD COVER THROUGH MIDNIGHT OVER THE SRN AND WRN DACKS. THE NAM12 MODEL SOUNDINGS...AND RH PROFILES INDICATE THIS STRATUS WILL HANG ON. THE OTHER ISSUE TO DEAL WITH IS THE SKIES CLEARING...AND THE WINDS GOING LIGHT TO CALM FROM THE HUDSON RIVER VALLEY EASTWARD. KGFL HAS DROPPED TO ABOUT 30F WITH SOME PATCHY FOG FORMING. WE ADDED SOME PATCHY FOG TO THE KGFL GENERAL AREA...AND TO THE CT RIVER VALLEY EAST OF THE SRN GREEN MTNS. HOURLY TRENDS WERE REDONE BASED ON OBSERVATIONS FOR T/TD/RH/APPARENT TEMPS. ASIDE FOR A FEW CIRRUS FROM THE CAPITAL REGION SOUTH AND EAST OVERNIGHT...EXPECT TEMPS TO COOL INTO THE U20S TO M30S. PREVIOUS NEAR TERM... STRATUS DECK WAS ALONG THE I90 CORRIDOR AS OF 19Z. THIS CLOUD DECK CONTINUES TO SLOWLY ERODE AND MIGRATE NORTHWARD THIS AFTERNOON. NCEP MODEL SUITE AND HOURLY RUC13 LOW LEVEL RH FIELDS SUGGEST THIS STRATUS DECK SHOULD CONTINUE TO LIFT NORTHWARD AND ERODE FURTHER. MEANWHILE...WARM ADVECTION ALOFT AND ITS ASSOCIATED HIGH AND SOME MID LEVEL CLOUDS ARE QUICKLY MOVING ACROSS NEW ENGLAND AND PORTIONS OF UPSTATE NEW YORK. THIS TOO IS EXPECTED TO SLIDE OFFSHORE TONIGHT LEAVING BEHIND A PTCLOUDY-MOCLEAR SKIES. BASED ON CURRENT DEWPOINTS...MOS TEMPERATURES LOOK A BIT COOL AND HAVE FOLLOWED WARMER OVERNIGHT TRENDS WITHIN THE LAV/LAMP GUIDANCE. LARGE AREA OF HIGH PRESSURE...CENTERED OVER THE SOUTHEAST CONUS...WILL BE THE DOMINANT PLAYER FOR THIS NEAR TERM AND INTO THE SHORT TERM. && .SHORT TERM /FRIDAY NIGHT THROUGH SATURDAY NIGHT/... THIS LARGE AREA OF HIGH PRESSURE WILL KEEP THE WEATHER QUIET EAST OF THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER THROUGH THIS SHORT TERM PERIOD. IN FACT...RATHER PRONOUNCED WEST-SOUTHWEST FLOW ALONG WITH MILD MID LEVEL TEMPS WILL RESULT IN TEMPERATURES CLIMBING TOWARD OR EXCEEDING 10 DEGREES ABOVE CLIMATOLOGY /IN ADDITION...DOWNSLOPING MAY ENHANCE THESE TEMPS INTO THE VALLEY LOCATIONS/. THE ONLY COMPLICATION COULD BE SOME OVERNIGHT SHALLOW BR/FG AND A POTENTIAL FOR SOME LOW LEVEL STRATUS DEVELOPMENT. IN ADDITION...WITH THE ONGOING WARM ADVECTION...SOME HIGH AND MID LEVEL CLOUD COVER MAY MOVE ACROSS THE SKY THOUGH THIS PERIOD. EITHER WAY...THE WEATHER SHOULD HAVE MINIMAL IMPACT TO HOLIDAY WEEKEND TRAVELS. && .LONG TERM /SUNDAY THROUGH THURSDAY/... ACTIVE WEATHER PATTERN EXPECTED THROUGH THE LONG TERM...BUT MODEL GUIDANCE HAS DIFFERING SOLUTIONS...SO CONFIDENCE IS LOW. WENT WITH HPC GUIDANCE. SFC LOW APPROACHING FROM THE GREAT LAKES REGION SUNDAY MORNING. 12Z GFS...ECMWF AND GFSENSEMBLE MEMBERS HAVE NOT AGREED UPON A TRACK...SPEED...OR QPF AMOUNTS. ECMWF HAS THE MORE PROGRESSIVE AND NORTHERLY TRACK OF SFC LOW...WITH THE COLD FRONT AND PRECIP ASSOCIATED WITH THE LOW MOVING THROUGH THE FA LATE SUNDAY THROUGH LATE MONDAY...WITH QPF AMOUNTS AROUND HALF AN INCH OR LESS. ASSOCIATED UPPER LEVEL POSITIVELY TILTED TROUGH REMAINS OPEN IN ECMWF. MEANWHILE...GFS DEVELOPS A CLOSE LOW WITHIN THE UPPER LEVEL TROUGH. AS THIS TROUGH APPEARS TO HAVE A NEUTRAL TILT...GFS KEEPS IT SLOW MOVING OVER THE GREAT LAKES REGION...WHERE THE UPPER LEVEL LOW PRESSURE CENTER REFORMS FURTHER NORTH SUNDAY NIGHT. THE TROUGH BECOMES NEGATIVELY TILTED BEFORE A PIECE OF SOUTHERLY ENERGY BREAKS OFF...TRAVELING TOWARDS THE OBX AHEAD OF THE MAIN TROUGH...BY TUESDAY NIGHT. QPF AMOUNTS UP TO 2 INCHES WITH THE GFS. CHANCE FOR PRECIP POSSIBLE THROUGH TUESDAY NIGHT/WEDNESDAY WITH GFS ENSEMBLE MEMBERS SLOWLY MOVE SFC LOW NORTHWARD TOWARDS JAMES BAY. ALL GUIDANCE SHOW HIGH PRESSURE BUILDING IN JUST SOUTH OF THE REGION...BUT NO AGREEMENT ON WHEN OR FOR HOW LONG. HPC HAS HIGH PRESSURE WEDNESDAY INTO THURSDAY. TEMPS ABOUT 10 DEGREES ABOVE NORMAL TO START THE PERIOD...TRENDING COOLER TO ABOUT NORMAL BY THE END OF THE PERIOD. && .AVIATION /03Z FRIDAY THROUGH TUESDAY/... HIGH PRESSURE WILL CONTINUE TO RIDGE IN FROM THE MID ATLANTIC REGION OVERNIGHT INTO TOMORROW. MVFR CONDITIONS WILL PREVAIL FROM KALB SOUTH OVERNIGHT WITH SOME PATCHY MIST...BUT SOME IFR/MVFR MIST/STRATUS WILL LIKELY BE AN ISSUE AT KGFL OVERNIGHT. THE SKIES HAVE CLEARED...WITH LIGHT TO CALM WINDS AND SOME PATCHY MVFR MIST HAS ALREADY DEVELOPED AT KGFL. WE WILL CONTINUE THIS TREND OF MVFR/IFR MIST...AND POSSIBLY SOME MVFR STRATUS PRIOR TO 12Z/FRI THERE. KALB SOUTH TO KPOU SHOULD RISE QUICKLY TO VFR LEVELS BY 12Z. THE SKIES WILL BE MOSTLY CLEAR IN THE LATE MORNING THROUGH THE AFTERNOON WITH VFR CONDITIONS PREVAILING DUE TO THE STRONG SUBSIDENCE FROM THE ANTICYCLONE. THE WINDS WILL BE LIGHT TO CALM OVERNIGHT. THEY WILL INCREASE FROM THE S/SW AT 5-10 KTS DURING THE LATE MORNING AND AFTERNOON. OUTLOOK... FRIDAY NIGHT-SAT NIGHT...VFR. NO SIG WX. SUN...MAINLY VFR. INCREASING CLDS. CHC PM -SHRAS. SUN NIGHT-TUE...MVFR/IFR WITH CHC -SHRAS. && .HYDROLOGY... DRY WEATHER IS EXPECTED THROUGH MOST OF THE LONG HOLIDAY WEEKEND AS HIGH PRESSURE DOMINATES. OUR NEXT CHANCES FOR WET WEATHER WILL RETURN LATE IN THE WEEKEND INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK AS A LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM APPROACHES AND MOVES ACROSS THE REGION. THERE IS MUCH UNCERTAINTY WITH REGARDS TO THE SYSTEM AS THERE IS A LARGE SPREAD IN THE MODEL GUIDANCE. FOR DETAILS ON SPECIFIC AREA RIVERS AND LAKES...INCLUDING OBSERVED AND FORECAST RIVER STAGES AND LAKE ELEVATIONS...PLEASE VISIT THE ADVANCED HYDROLOGIC PREDICTION SERVICE /AHPS/ GRAPHS ON OUR WEBSITE. && .CLIMATE... 2011 HAS MOVED UP INTO FIFTH PLACE FOR WETTEST YEARS ON RECORD FOR ALBANY NEW YORK. WETTEST YEARS - ALBANY NY - SINCE 1820 1) 55.78 INCHES 1871 2) 55.81 INCHES 1870 3) 51.83 INCHES 1850 4) 49.80 INCHES 1827 5) 49.75 INCHES THROUGH NOVEMBER 23ND 6) 49.37 INCHES 1878 7) 48.35 INCHES 1843 8) 48.22 INCHES 1848 9) 47.79 INCHES 2008 10) 47.72 INCHES 2005 && .ALY WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... CT...NONE. NY...NONE. MA...NONE. VT...NONE. && $$ SYNOPSIS...BGM/WASULA NEAR TERM...BGM/WASULA SHORT TERM...BGM LONG TERM...KGM AVIATION...WASULA HYDROLOGY...BGM CLIMATE...IAA
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION...CORRECTED
NWS ALBANY NY
646 PM EST THU NOV 24 2011 .SYNOPSIS... THE WEATHER PATTERN WILL BE TRANQUIL FOR THIS HOLIDAY WEEKEND WITH HIGH PRESSURE REMAINING IN CONTROL ALONG THE EASTERN SEABOARD. TEMPERATURES WILL SLOWLY MODERATE TO ABOVE NORMAL AS SOUTHERLY WINDS INCREASE. THE NEXT CHANCE FOR SHOWERS ARRIVES LATE SUNDAY INTO MONDAY. && .NEAR TERM /THROUGH FRIDAY/... AS OF 630 PM EST...HAPPY THANKSGIVING TO ALL ! HIGH PRESSURE AT THE SFC CONTINUES TO RIDGE IN FROM THE TN VALLEY AND THE MID ATLANTIC REGION. A WEAK IMPULSE IN THE H500 W/NW FLOW ALOFT CONTINUES TO MOVE ACROSS THE ERN GREAT LAKES REGION...AND UPSTATE NY. THE STRATUS IS HANGING TOUGH ON THE 11-3.9 MICRON SATELLITE LOOP NORTH AND WEST OF THE CAPITAL REGION. WE INCREASED THE CLOUD COVER THROUGH MIDNIGHT OVER THE SRN AND WRN DACKS. THE NAM12 MODEL SOUNDINGS...AND RH PROFILES INDICATE THIS STRATUS WILL HANG ON. THE OTHER ISSUE TO DEAL WITH IS THE SKIES CLEARING...AND THE WINDS GOING LIGHT TO CALM FROM THE HUDSON RIVER VALLEY EASTWARD. KGFL HAS DROPPED TO ABOUT 30F WITH SOME PATCHY FOG FORMING. WE ADDED SOME PATCHY FOG TO THE KGFL GENERAL AREA...AND TO THE CT RIVER VALLEY EAST OF THE SRN GREEN MTNS. HOURLY TRENDS WERE REDONE BASED ON OBSERVATIONS FOR T/TD/RH/APPARENT TEMPS. ASIDE FOR A FEW CIRRUS FROM THE CAPITAL REGION SOUTH AND EAST OVERNIGHT...EXPECT TEMPS TO COOL INTO THE U20S TO M30S. PREVIOUS NEAR TERM... STRATUS DECK WAS ALONG THE I90 CORRIDOR AS OF 19Z. THIS CLOUD DECK CONTINUES TO SLOWLY ERODE AND MIGRATE NORTHWARD THIS AFTERNOON. NCEP MODEL SUITE AND HOURLY RUC13 LOW LEVEL RH FIELDS SUGGEST THIS STRATUS DECK SHOULD CONTINUE TO LIFT NORTHWARD AND ERODE FURTHER. MEANWHILE...WARM ADVECTION ALOFT AND ITS ASSOCIATED HIGH AND SOME MID LEVEL CLOUDS ARE QUICKLY MOVING ACROSS NEW ENGLAND AND PORTIONS OF UPSTATE NEW YORK. THIS TOO IS EXPECTED TO SLIDE OFFSHORE TONIGHT LEAVING BEHIND A PTCLOUDY-MOCLEAR SKIES. BASED ON CURRENT DEWPOINTS...MOS TEMPERATURES LOOK A BIT COOL AND HAVE FOLLOWED WARMER OVERNIGHT TRENDS WITHIN THE LAV/LAMP GUIDANCE. LARGE AREA OF HIGH PRESSURE...CENTERED OVER THE SOUTHEAST CONUS...WILL BE THE DOMINANT PLAYER FOR THIS NEAR TERM AND INTO THE SHORT TERM. && .SHORT TERM /FRIDAY NIGHT THROUGH SATURDAY NIGHT/... THIS LARGE AREA OF HIGH PRESSURE WILL KEEP THE WEATHER QUIET EAST OF THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER THROUGH THIS SHORT TERM PERIOD. IN FACT...RATHER PRONOUNCED WEST-SOUTHWEST FLOW ALONG WITH MILD MID LEVEL TEMPS WILL RESULT IN TEMPERATURES CLIMBING TOWARD OR EXCEEDING 10 DEGREES ABOVE CLIMATOLOGY /IN ADDITION...DOWNSLOPING MAY ENHANCE THESE TEMPS INTO THE VALLEY LOCATIONS/. THE ONLY COMPLICATION COULD BE SOME OVERNIGHT SHALLOW BR/FG AND A POTENTIAL FOR SOME LOW LEVEL STRATUS DEVELOPMENT. IN ADDITION...WITH THE ONGOING WARM ADVECTION...SOME HIGH AND MID LEVEL CLOUD COVER MAY MOVE ACROSS THE SKY THOUGH THIS PERIOD. EITHER WAY...THE WEATHER SHOULD HAVE MINIMAL IMPACT TO HOLIDAY WEEKEND TRAVELS. && .LONG TERM /SUNDAY THROUGH THURSDAY/... ACTIVE WEATHER PATTERN EXPECTED THROUGH THE LONG TERM...BUT MODEL GUIDANCE HAS DIFFERING SOLUTIONS...SO CONFIDENCE IS LOW. WENT WITH HPC GUIDANCE. SFC LOW APPROACHING FROM THE GREAT LAKES REGION SUNDAY MORNING. 12Z GFS...ECMWF AND GFSENSEMBLE MEMBERS HAVE NOT AGREED UPON A TRACK...SPEED...OR QPF AMOUNTS. ECMWF HAS THE MORE PROGRESSIVE AND NORTHERLY TRACK OF SFC LOW...WITH THE COLD FRONT AND PRECIP ASSOCIATED WITH THE LOW MOVING THROUGH THE FA LATE SUNDAY THROUGH LATE MONDAY...WITH QPF AMOUNTS AROUND HALF AN INCH OR LESS. ASSOCIATED UPPER LEVEL POSITIVELY TILTED TROUGH REMAINS OPEN IN ECMWF. MEANWHILE...GFS DEVELOPS A CLOSE LOW WITHIN THE UPPER LEVEL TROUGH. AS THIS TROUGH APPEARS TO HAVE A NEUTRAL TILT...GFS KEEPS IT SLOW MOVING OVER THE GREAT LAKES REGION...WHERE THE UPPER LEVEL LOW PRESSURE CENTER REFORMS FURTHER NORTH SUNDAY NIGHT. THE TROUGH BECOMES NEGATIVELY TILTED BEFORE A PIECE OF SOUTHERLY ENERGY BREAKS OFF...TRAVELING TOWARDS THE OBX AHEAD OF THE MAIN TROUGH...BY TUESDAY NIGHT. QPF AMOUNTS UP TO 2 INCHES WITH THE GFS. CHANCE FOR PRECIP POSSIBLE THROUGH TUESDAY NIGHT/WEDNESDAY WITH GFS ENSEMBLE MEMBERS SLOWLY MOVE SFC LOW NORTHWARD TOWARDS JAMES BAY. ALL GUIDANCE SHOW HIGH PRESSURE BUILDING IN JUST SOUTH OF THE REGION...BUT NO AGREEMENT ON WHEN OR FOR HOW LONG. HPC HAS HIGH PRESSURE WEDNESDAY INTO THURSDAY. TEMPS ABOUT 10 DEGREES ABOVE NORMAL TO START THE PERIOD...TRENDING COOLER TO ABOUT NORMAL BY THE END OF THE PERIOD. && .AVIATION /00Z FRIDAY THROUGH TUESDAY/... HIGH PRESSURE WILL CONTINUE TO RIDGE IN FROM THE MID ATLANTIC REGION OVERNIGHT INTO TOMORROW. VFR CONDITIONS WILL PREVAIL FROM KALB SOUTH OVERNIGHT...BUT SOME IFR/MVFR MIST/STRATUS WILL LIKELY BE AN ISSUE AT KGFL OVERNIGHT. THE SKIES HAVE CLEARED...WITH LIGHT TO CALM WINDS AND SOME PATCHY MVFR MIST HAS ALREADY DEVELOPED AT KGFL. WE WILL CONTINUE THIS TREND OF MVFR/IFR MIST...AND POSSIBLY SOME MVFR STRATUS PRIOR TO 12Z/FRI. THE SKIES WILL BE MOSTLY CLEAR IN THE LATE MORNING THROUGH THE AFTERNOON WITH VFR CONDITIONS PREVAILING DUE TO THE STRONG SUBSIDENCE FROM THE ANTICYCLONE. THE WINDS WILL BE LIGHT TO CALM OVERNIGHT. THEY WILL INCREASE FROM THE S/SW AT 5-10 KTS DURING THE LATE MORNING AND AFTERNOON. OUTLOOK... FRIDAY NIGHT-SAT NIGHT...VFR. NO SIG WX. SUN...MAINLY VFR. INCREASING CLDS. CHC PM -SHRAS. SUN NIGHT-TUE...MVFR/IFR WITH CHC -SHRAS. && .HYDROLOGY... DRY WEATHER IS EXPECTED THROUGH MOST OF THE LONG HOLIDAY WEEKEND AS HIGH PRESSURE DOMINATES. OUR NEXT CHANCES FOR WET WEATHER WILL RETURN LATE IN THE WEEKEND INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK AS A LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM APPROACHES AND MOVES ACROSS THE REGION. THERE IS MUCH UNCERTAINTY WITH REGARDS TO THE SYSTEM AS THERE IS A LARGE SPREAD IN THE MODEL GUIDANCE. FOR DETAILS ON SPECIFIC AREA RIVERS AND LAKES...INCLUDING OBSERVED AND FORECAST RIVER STAGES AND LAKE ELEVATIONS...PLEASE VISIT THE ADVANCED HYDROLOGIC PREDICTION SERVICE /AHPS/ GRAPHS ON OUR WEBSITE. && .CLIMATE... 2011 HAS MOVED UP INTO FIFTH PLACE FOR WETTEST YEARS ON RECORD FOR ALBANY NEW YORK. WETTEST YEARS - ALBANY NY - SINCE 1820 1) 55.78 INCHES 1871 2) 55.81 INCHES 1870 3) 51.83 INCHES 1850 4) 49.80 INCHES 1827 5) 49.75 INCHES THROUGH NOVEMBER 23ND 6) 49.37 INCHES 1878 7) 48.35 INCHES 1843 8) 48.22 INCHES 1848 9) 47.79 INCHES 2008 10) 47.72 INCHES 2005 && .ALY WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... CT...NONE. NY...NONE. MA...NONE. VT...NONE. && $$ SYNOPSIS...BGM/WASULA NEAR TERM...BGM/WASULA SHORT TERM...BGM LONG TERM...KGM AVIATION...WASULA HYDROLOGY...BGM CLIMATE...IAA
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS ALBANY NY
639 PM EST THU NOV 24 2011 .SYNOPSIS... THE WEATHER PATTERN WILL BE TRANQUIL FOR THIS HOLIDAY WEEKEND WITH HIGH PRESSURE REMAINING IN CONTROL ALONG THE EASTERN SEABOARD. TEMPERATURES WILL SLOWLY MODERATE TO ABOVE NORMAL AS SOUTHERLY WINDS INCREASE. THE NEXT CHANCE FOR SHOWERS ARRIVES LATE SUNDAY INTO MONDAY. && .NEAR TERM /THROUGH FRIDAY/... AS OF 630 PM EDT...HAPPY THANKSGIVING TO ALL ! HIGH PRESSURE AT THE SFC CONTINUES TO RIDGE IN FROM THE TN VALLEY AND THE MID ATLANTIC REGION. A WEAK IMPULSE IN THE H500 W/NW FLOW ALOFT CONTINUES TO MOVE ACROSS THE ERN GREAT LAKES REGION...AND UPSTATE NY. THE STRATUS IS HANGING TOUGH ON THE 11-3.9 MICRON SATELLITE LOOP NORTH AND WEST OF THE CAPITAL REGION. WE INCREASED THE CLOUD COVER THROUGH MIDNIGHT OVER THE SRN AND WRN DACKS. THE NAM12 MODEL SOUNDINGS...AND RH PROFILES INDICATE THIS STRATUS WILL HANG ON. THE OTHER ISSUE TO DEAL WITH IS THE SKIES CLEARING...AND THE WINDS GOING LIGHT TO CALM FROM THE HUDSON RIVER VALLEY EASTWARD. KGFL HAS DROPPED TO ABOUT 30F WITH SOME PATCHY FOG FORMING. WE ADDED SOME PATCHY FOG TO THE KGFL GENERAL AREA...AND TO THE CT RIVER VALLEY EAST OF THE SRN GREEN MTNS. HOURLY TRENDS WERE REDONE BASED ON OBSERVATIONS FOR T/TD/RH/APPARENT TEMPS. ASIDE FOR A FEW CIRRUS FROM THE CAPITAL REGION SOUTH AND EAST OVERNIGHT...EXPECT TEMPS TO COOL INTO THE U20S TO M30S. PREVIOUS NEAR TERM... STRATUS DECK WAS ALONG THE I90 CORRIDOR AS OF 19Z. THIS CLOUD DECK CONTINUES TO SLOWLY ERODE AND MIGRATE NORTHWARD THIS AFTERNOON. NCEP MODEL SUITE AND HOURLY RUC13 LOW LEVEL RH FIELDS SUGGEST THIS STRATUS DECK SHOULD CONTINUE TO LIFT NORTHWARD AND ERODE FURTHER. MEANWHILE...WARM ADVECTION ALOFT AND ITS ASSOCIATED HIGH AND SOME MID LEVEL CLOUDS ARE QUICKLY MOVING ACROSS NEW ENGLAND AND PORTIONS OF UPSTATE NEW YORK. THIS TOO IS EXPECTED TO SLIDE OFFSHORE TONIGHT LEAVING BEHIND A PTCLOUDY-MOCLEAR SKIES. BASED ON CURRENT DEWPOINTS...MOS TEMPERATURES LOOK A BIT COOL AND HAVE FOLLOWED WARMER OVERNIGHT TRENDS WITHIN THE LAV/LAMP GUIDANCE. LARGE AREA OF HIGH PRESSURE...CENTERED OVER THE SOUTHEAST CONUS...WILL BE THE DOMINANT PLAYER FOR THIS NEAR TERM AND INTO THE SHORT TERM. && .SHORT TERM /FRIDAY NIGHT THROUGH SATURDAY NIGHT/... THIS LARGE AREA OF HIGH PRESSURE WILL KEEP THE WEATHER QUIET EAST OF THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER THROUGH THIS SHORT TERM PERIOD. IN FACT...RATHER PRONOUNCED WEST-SOUTHWEST FLOW ALONG WITH MILD MID LEVEL TEMPS WILL RESULT IN TEMPERATURES CLIMBING TOWARD OR EXCEEDING 10 DEGREES ABOVE CLIMATOLOGY /IN ADDITION...DOWNSLOPING MAY ENHANCE THESE TEMPS INTO THE VALLEY LOCATIONS/. THE ONLY COMPLICATION COULD BE SOME OVERNIGHT SHALLOW BR/FG AND A POTENTIAL FOR SOME LOW LEVEL STRATUS DEVELOPMENT. IN ADDITION...WITH THE ONGOING WARM ADVECTION...SOME HIGH AND MID LEVEL CLOUD COVER MAY MOVE ACROSS THE SKY THOUGH THIS PERIOD. EITHER WAY...THE WEATHER SHOULD HAVE MINIMAL IMPACT TO HOLIDAY WEEKEND TRAVELS. && .LONG TERM /SUNDAY THROUGH THURSDAY/... ACTIVE WEATHER PATTERN EXPECTED THROUGH THE LONG TERM...BUT MODEL GUIDANCE HAS DIFFERING SOLUTIONS...SO CONFIDENCE IS LOW. WENT WITH HPC GUIDANCE. SFC LOW APPROACHING FROM THE GREAT LAKES REGION SUNDAY MORNING. 12Z GFS...ECMWF AND GFSENSEMBLE MEMBERS HAVE NOT AGREED UPON A TRACK...SPEED...OR QPF AMOUNTS. ECMWF HAS THE MORE PROGRESSIVE AND NORTHERLY TRACK OF SFC LOW...WITH THE COLD FRONT AND PRECIP ASSOCIATED WITH THE LOW MOVING THROUGH THE FA LATE SUNDAY THROUGH LATE MONDAY...WITH QPF AMOUNTS AROUND HALF AN INCH OR LESS. ASSOCIATED UPPER LEVEL POSITIVELY TILTED TROUGH REMAINS OPEN IN ECMWF. MEANWHILE...GFS DEVELOPS A CLOSE LOW WITHIN THE UPPER LEVEL TROUGH. AS THIS TROUGH APPEARS TO HAVE A NEUTRAL TILT...GFS KEEPS IT SLOW MOVING OVER THE GREAT LAKES REGION...WHERE THE UPPER LEVEL LOW PRESSURE CENTER REFORMS FURTHER NORTH SUNDAY NIGHT. THE TROUGH BECOMES NEGATIVELY TILTED BEFORE A PIECE OF SOUTHERLY ENERGY BREAKS OFF...TRAVELING TOWARDS THE OBX AHEAD OF THE MAIN TROUGH...BY TUESDAY NIGHT. QPF AMOUNTS UP TO 2 INCHES WITH THE GFS. CHANCE FOR PRECIP POSSIBLE THROUGH TUESDAY NIGHT/WEDNESDAY WITH GFS ENSEMBLE MEMBERS SLOWLY MOVE SFC LOW NORTHWARD TOWARDS JAMES BAY. ALL GUIDANCE SHOW HIGH PRESSURE BUILDING IN JUST SOUTH OF THE REGION...BUT NO AGREEMENT ON WHEN OR FOR HOW LONG. HPC HAS HIGH PRESSURE WEDNESDAY INTO THURSDAY. TEMPS ABOUT 10 DEGREES ABOVE NORMAL TO START THE PERIOD...TRENDING COOLER TO ABOUT NORMAL BY THE END OF THE PERIOD. && .AVIATION /00Z FRIDAY THROUGH TUESDAY/... HIGH PRESSURE WILL CONTINUE TO RIDGE IN FROM THE MID ATLANTIC REGION OVERNIGHT INTO TOMORROW. VFR CONDITIONS WILL PREVAIL FROM KALB SOUTH OVERNIGHT...BUT SOME IFR/MVFR MIST/STRATUS WILL LIKELY BE AN ISSUE AT KGFL OVERNIGHT. THE SKIES HAVE CLEARED...WITH LIGHT TO CALM WINDS AND SOME PATCHY MVFR MIST HAS ALREADY DEVELOPED AT KGFL. WE WILL CONTINUE THIS TREND OF MVFR/IFR MIST...AND POSSIBLY SOME MVFR STRATUS PRIOR TO 12Z/FRI. THE SKIES WILL BE MOSTLY CLEAR IN THE LATE MORNING THROUGH THE AFTERNOON WITH VFR CONDITIONS PREVAILING DUE TO THE STRONG SUBSIDENCE FROM THE ANTICYCLONE. THE WINDS WILL BE LIGHT TO CALM OVERNIGHT. THEY WILL INCREASE FROM THE S/SW AT 5-10 KTS DURING THE LATE MORNING AND AFTERNOON. OUTLOOK... FRIDAY NIGHT-SAT NIGHT...VFR. NO SIG WX. SUN...MAINLY VFR. INCREASING CLDS. CHC PM -SHRAS. SUN NIGHT-TUE...MVFR/IFR WITH CHC -SHRAS. && .HYDROLOGY... DRY WEATHER IS EXPECTED THROUGH MOST OF THE LONG HOLIDAY WEEKEND AS HIGH PRESSURE DOMINATES. OUR NEXT CHANCES FOR WET WEATHER WILL RETURN LATE IN THE WEEKEND INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK AS A LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM APPROACHES AND MOVES ACROSS THE REGION. THERE IS MUCH UNCERTAINTY WITH REGARDS TO THE SYSTEM AS THERE IS A LARGE SPREAD IN THE MODEL GUIDANCE. FOR DETAILS ON SPECIFIC AREA RIVERS AND LAKES...INCLUDING OBSERVED AND FORECAST RIVER STAGES AND LAKE ELEVATIONS...PLEASE VISIT THE ADVANCED HYDROLOGIC PREDICTION SERVICE /AHPS/ GRAPHS ON OUR WEBSITE. && .CLIMATE... 2011 HAS MOVED UP INTO FIFTH PLACE FOR WETTEST YEARS ON RECORD FOR ALBANY NEW YORK. WETTEST YEARS - ALBANY NY - SINCE 1820 1) 55.78 INCHES 1871 2) 55.81 INCHES 1870 3) 51.83 INCHES 1850 4) 49.80 INCHES 1827 5) 49.75 INCHES THROUGH NOVEMBER 23ND 6) 49.37 INCHES 1878 7) 48.35 INCHES 1843 8) 48.22 INCHES 1848 9) 47.79 INCHES 2008 10) 47.72 INCHES 2005 && .ALY WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... CT...NONE. NY...NONE. MA...NONE. VT...NONE. && $$ SYNOPSIS...BGM/WASULA NEAR TERM...BGM/WASULA SHORT TERM...BGM LONG TERM...KGM AVIATION...WASULA HYDROLOGY...BGM CLIMATE...IAA
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NWS MOUNT HOLLY NJ
918 AM EST WED NOV 23 2011 .SYNOPSIS... INTENSIFYING LOW PRESSURE MOVING EASTWARD THROUGH PENNSYLVANIA EARLY THIS MORNING...WITH A WARM FRONT EXTENDING EASTWARD INTO OUR AREA...WILL PASS THROUGH OUR REGION LATER THIS MORNING AND EARLY THIS AFTERNOON. THE TRAILING COLD FRONT WILL MOVE SOUTHEAST OF OUR AREA BY EVENING. HIGH PRESSURE WILL BUILD INTO THE MID ATLANTIC STATES THURSDAY AND FRIDAY AND SAG SOUTHWARD INTO THE CAROLINAS THIS WEEKEND. A COLD FRONT MAY MOVE EASTWARD THROUGH OUR AREA SUNDAY NIGHT INTO EARLY MONDAY. LOW PRESSURE DEVELOPING OVER THE GREAT LAKES AND OHIO VALLEY AND EXTENDING INTO THE SOUTHEASTERN STATES BY TUESDAY MAY AFFECT OUR AREA INTO THE MIDDLE OF NEXT WEEK. && .NEAR TERM /UNTIL 6 PM THIS EVENING/... THE FIRST SHOT OR PRECIPITATION HAS MOVED OUT...WITH THE NEXT SHOT MOVING ACROSS AREAS NORTHWEST OF PHILADELPHIA. ALSO SEEING A LINE OF SHOWERS WITH A WIND SHIFT MOVING INTO THE LEHIGH VALLEY. FINALLY...A WARM FRONT CUTS ACROSS NORTHEAST MARYLAND...NORTHERN DELAWARE AND SOUTHERN NEW JERSEY. NORTH OF THE FRONT...THE AREA IS MOSTLY RAIN FREE AND WINDS HAVE SHIFTED TO THE SOUTH. THIS IS ALLOWING HIGHER DEW POINTS TO ADVECT INTO THAT AREA. THE MAIN WEATHER PROBLEM FOR TODAY WILL BE TIED TO A SURFACE COLD FRONT. AHEAD OF THE FRONT...MOISTURE RICH AIR IS RIDING NORTHEAST ON A 55 KNOT LOW LEVEL JET. FOR THE MOST PART...THE AIRMASS IS STABLE EVEN SOUTH OF THE WARM FRONT. THERE IS INSTABILITY ACROSS SOUTHEAST VIRGINIA...AND THIS COULD BE ADVECTED INTO SOUTHERN AREAS THIS MORNING. THE BEST CHANCE OF THUNDER WILL BE TIED TO THE INSTABILITY IN SOUTHEAST VIRGINIA. THE HRRR ADVECTS THIS INSTABILITY INTO NORTHEAST MARYLAND...DELAWARE AND SOUTHERN NEW JERSEY THROUGH ABOUT 1500 UTC. BASED ON THIS...WILL HOLD ONTO THE MENTION OF THUNDER IN THESE AREAS. THE BULK SHEAR VALUES WILL BE HIGH...BUT FOR NOW WILL HOLD OFF ON ENHANCED WORDING FOR GUSTY WINDS. THE HEAVIEST RAIN WILL FALL ACROSS EASTERN PENNSYLVANIA AND NORTHERN NE JERSEY THIS MORNING. AN ADDITIONAL ONE TO ONE AND ONE-HALF INCHES OF RAIN COULD FALL IN THE AIRMASS JUST AHEAD OF THE FRONT. THE ADDITIONAL RAIN SHOULD RESULT IN FLOODING. MORE ON THE FLOODING ISSUES IS INCLUDED IN THE HYDROLOGY SECTION BELOW. AFTER THE FRONT PASSES...THE MAIN MOISTURE SHOULD BE SCOURED BY THE FRONT AND EXITING LOW LEVEL JET. HOWEVER...THE MID LEVEL LONG WAVE TROUGH STILL REMAINS TO THE WEST. WHILE WINDS SHIFTING TO THE WEST BEHIND THE FRONT SHOULD DRY OUT OUT THE LOWER LEVELS...COLD MID LEVEL TEMPERATURES AND SYNOPTIC SCALE LIFT AHEAD OF THE LONG WAVE TROUGH COULD RESULT IN SHOWERS THIS AFTERNOON. DESPITE THE LOW LEVEL DRYING BEHIND THE FRONT...ANY MEANINGFUL CLEARING WILL HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THE PASSAGE OF THE MID LEVEL TROUGH. WITH THIS IN MIND...WILL REMAIN PESSIMISTIC WITH REGARD TO SKY COVER FOR ALL AREAS. HIGHS SHOULD OCCUR BEFORE THE FRONT PASSES THIS MORNING. TEMPERATURES ARE IN THE MID 60S ACROSS MUCH OF EASTERN VIRGINIA...AND THIS SHOULD ADVECT INTO SOUTHERN AREAS. THIS IS MORE OR LESS IN LINE WITH MOS VALUES...AND ARE ACCEPTED. ELSEWHERE...HIGHS WERE MAINLY BASED ON THE MOS BLEND. IT IS POSSIBLE THAT PORTIONS OF THE LEHIGH VALLEY AND SOUTHERN POCONOS MAY HAVE TEMPERATURES BECOME STEADY OR SLOWLY FALL BEHIND THE MAIN FRONT LATER THIS MORNING. THIS WAS ACCOUNTED FOR IN THE HOURLY TEMPERATURE FORECAST. FINALLY...THE GRADIENT STARTS TO TIGHTEN LATE THIS AFTERNOON AS SURFACE LOW PRESSURE DEEPENS TO THE NORTHEAST. THE GRADIENT SUPPORTS GUSTY WINDS IN JUST ABOUT ALL AREAS FROM MID AFTERNOON ON. MODEL SOUNDINGS SUGGEST GUSTS TO 35 MPH ARE POSSIBLE TOWARD DARK...AS WINDS SHIFT TO THE NORTH. && .SHORT TERM /6 PM THIS EVENING THROUGH 6 AM THURSDAY/... THE BIGGEST ISSUE THIS EVENING WILL BE THE WIND. AS THE SURFACE LOW DEEPENS TO THE NORTHEAST THIS EVENING...THE GRADIENT TIGHTENS CONSIDERABLY. THE GRADIENT ITSELF WOULD SUPPORT WIND GUSTS TO 25 MPH FOR JUST ABOUT ALL AREAS. HOWEVER...MODEL SOUNDINGS NEAR THE COAST SUGGEST A THREE HOUR WIND CENTERED AROUND 0000 UTC WHEN 43 KNOTS OF WIND MAY BE AVAILABLE AT THE TOP OF THE MIXED LAYER. THIS IS ABOUT THE TIME OF THE BEST COLD AIR ADVECTION...WHEN PRESSURE RISES OF 6 TO 7 MB IN 3 HOURS ARE FORECAST. THIS COULD RESULT IN A SHORT PERIOD OF NEAR WIND ADVISORY TYPE WINDS... ESPECIALLY FOR PORTION OF MARYLAND...DELAWARE AND SOUTHERN NEW JERSEY. RIGHT NOW...THE CONFIDENCE DOES NOT EXIST FOR THE ISSUANCE OF A WIND ADVISORY. THE MID LEVEL LONG WAVE TROUGH SHOULD EXIT THE COAST DURING THE EVENING (PROBABLY BEFORE 0300 UTC THURSDAY). WITH COLD MID LEVEL TEMPERATURES AND SOME SYNOPTIC SCALE LIFT WITH THE TROUGH ITSELF...A MENTION OF SHOWERS WAS LEFT IN PLACE FOR THE EVENING HOURS. IN THE WAKE OF THE TROUGH...SKIES SHOULD CLEAR FAIRLY QUICKLY. THE BEST GRADIENT OCCURS DURING THE EVENING...AND WEAKENS DURING THE LATE PART OF THE OVERNIGHT. THE WEAKENING GRADIENT AND COOLING OF THE LOWEST LEVELS COULD ALLOW SOME PROTECTED AREAS TO DECOUPLE LATER TONIGHT. THIS COULD RESULT IN SOME OF THESE LOCATIONS DROPPING BELOW MOS VALUES...BUT OVERALL...WITH A MIXED ENVIRONMENT MOST OF THE NIGHT...LOWS WERE BASED ON THE MOS BLEND. && .LONG TERM /THURSDAY THROUGH TUESDAY/... THE MODELS ARE A SOMEWHAT CONFIDENT ON INDICATING A COLD FRONT MOVING INTO OR THROUGH OUR AREA SUNDAY NIGHT INTO EARLY MONDAY. IT SEEMS TO BE AN ANAFRONT...SO HIGH CHANCE TO LOW LIKELY PRECIPITATION CHANCES WERE USED SUNDAY NIGHT MAINLY WEST AND CENTRAL. THEN...LOW PRESSURE FORMING SURFACE AND ALOFT ARE HANDLED SLIGHTLY DIFFERENTLY BY THE 00Z GFS AND 00Z ECMWF...WITH THE LATTER A LITTLE FURTHER SOUTH AND EAST WITH THE SURFACE LOW AS COMPARED WITH THE GFS. HOWEVER...THE GENERAL EVOLUTION OF THE AMPLIFYING UPPER PATTERN ON EACH IS SIMILAR. BUT, THIS MEANS A GOOD DEAL OF UNCERTAINTY IN LOCATION AND TIMING OF FEATURES. SO...AFTER SUNDAY NIGHT...A RATHER BROAD BRUSH WAS USED WITH HIGH CHANCE PROBABILITIES GENERALLY EMPLOYED. AT THIS POINT, IT LOOKS LIKE TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY WILL FEATURE AT LEAST SOME PRECIPITATION, AND IT COULD BE A SIGNIFICANT EVENT. TEMPERATURES IN THE GRIDS WERE NOT TOO DIFFERENT FROM HPC GUIDANCE PRODUCTS. && .AVIATION /14Z WEDNESDAY THROUGH SUNDAY/... THE FOLLOWING DISCUSSION IS FOR KPHL, KPNE, KTTN, KABE, KRDG, KILG, KMIV, KACY AND SURROUNDING AREAS. MVFR/IFR CONDITIONS CONTINUE EARLY THIS MORNING ACROSS THE REGION. THE FIRST SHOT OF STEADIER RANI HAS EXITED THE AREA...WITH SCATTERED SHOWERS IN BETWEEN. THE NEXT SHOT OF RAIN IS WAITING ACROSS WESTERN MARYLAND AND CENTRAL PENNSYLVANIA. AS THIS SHOT OF RAIN MOVES INTO THE AREA...IFR CEILINGS ARE EXPECTED IN ALL AREAS. LOW LEVEL WIND SHEAR IS NOW PRESENT IN THE KDIX VWP AND AMDAR SOUNDINGS OUT OF KPHL...WITH 45 KNOTS AT 2000 FEET. THE GREATEST EFFECTS OF THE OW LEVEL WIND SHEAR ARE BEING FELT FROM KPHL SOUTH AND WEST. THIS IS IN RESPONSE TO A LOW LEVEL JET APPROACHING FROM THE SOUTH SOUTHWEST. THE LOW LEVEL JET IS PUSHING THE NEXT SHOT OF PRECIPITATION...AND LOW LEVEL WIND SHEAR IS EXPECTED THROUGH A COLD FRONTAL PASSAGE LATE THIS MORNING. A WEAK COLD FRONT WILL CROSS THE REGION BETWEEN 1100 UTC AND 1400 UTC. THIS FRONT WILL ONLY SERVE AS A WIND SHIFT...WITH LITTLE NI THE WAY OF DRYING BEHIND. CEILINGS WILL REMAIN IFR THROUGH THE INITIAL COLD FRONTAL PASSAGE. A MORE SIGNIFICANT FRONT WILL CROSS THE REGION FROM WEST TO EAST BETWEEN 1600 UTC WEST AND 1900 UTC EAST. DRYING IN THE LOWER LEVELS SHOULD HELP CEILINGS JUMP TO MVFR...WITH A FEW SHOWERS POSSIBLE WITH THE FRONT. LOOKS FOR CEILINGS TO FINALLY GET TO VFR BETWEEN 1900 UTC AND 2200 UTC...FROM WEST TO EAST. WINDS WILL SHIFT TO THE WEST NORTHWEST BEHIND THE SECOND FRONT...AND AS THE SURFACE GRADIENT INCREASES...SHOULD GUST TO 25 KNOTS FOR THE MUCH OF THE REST OF THE AFTERNOON. AS LOW PRESSURE DEEPENS TO THE NORTHEAST LATE THIS AFTERNOON AND TONIGHT...WINDS WILL SHIFT TO THE NORTH. MODEL SOUNDINGS SUGGEST GUSTS BETWEEN 29 AND 35 KNOTS ARE POSSIBLE FOR A TIME BETWEEN 0100 UTC AND 0600 UTC...WITH THE HIGHEST GUSTS SOUTH AND EAST OF KPHL. ALL TERMINALS SHOULD BE VFR BY 0000 UTC...AND SKIES WILL CLEAR DURING THE EVENING HOURS. OUTLOOK... VFR CONDITIONS WILL OCCUR THURSDAY AND INTO MOST OF THE WEEKEND... AS HIGH PRESSURE BUILDING INTO OUR AREA WILL LIKELY HANG ON INTO SUNDAY. THURSDAY MAY START WITH SOMEWHAT GUSTY WINDS IN THE WAKE OF WEDNESDAYS FRONT, AS THE GRADIENT IS STILL A LITTLE STRONG. HOWEVER...ANY GUSTY MORNING WINDS SHOULD SETTLE DOWN IN THE AFTERNOON. A FRONT MOVING IN FROM THE WEST MAY BRING SOME LOWER CONDITIONS SUNDAY NIGHT INTO MONDAY. THEN...THE WEATHER BECOMES MORE COMPLICATED AND UNCERTAIN, AS EXTENSIVE LOW PRESSURE WELL TO OUR WEST OVER THE GREAT LAKES AND OHIO VALLEY AND INTO THE SOUTHEAST IS LIKELY TO BE A WEATHER-MAKER FOR OUR AREA IN THE EARLY AND MID PORTION OF NEXT WEEK. AVIATION CONDITIONS COULD BE LOW THROUGH THIS PERIOD. && .MARINE... THE SURFACE WARM FRONT EXTENDS ACROSS NORTHERN DELAWARE AND THE SOUTHERN THIRD OF NEW JERSEY EARLY THIS MORNING. NORTH OF THE FRONT...EAST TO NORTHEAST WINDS REMAIN CLOSE TO SMALL CRAFT LEVELS...WITH THE HIGHEST WINDS CLOSE TO SANDY HOOK. THE EASTERLY FETCH HAS ALSO RESULTED IN SMALL CRAFT SEAS. SOUTH OF THE FRONT...WINDS HAVE SHIFTED TO THE SOUTH...AND REMAIN JUST BELOW SMALL CRAFT LEVELS. THE DEPTH OF THE MIXED LAYER PROBABLY DOES NOT ALLOW THE MOMENTUM FROM THE PASSING LOW LEVEL JET TO MIX TO THE SURFACE...SO WINDS PROBABLY STAY NEAR SMALL CRAFT LEVELS AHEAD OF AN APPROACHING COLD FRONT. SEAS HERE ARE ALSO ABOVE 5 FEET...AS A RESULT OF THE PREVIOUS EASTERLY SWELL.. THE WARM FRONT MAY NOT CLEAR THE ENTIRE COAST THIS MORNING BEFORE THE COLD CROSSES. WINDS SHOULD REMAIN NEAR SMALL CRAFT LEVELS...BUT AS MENTIONED EARLIER...THE MOMENTUM AHEAD OF THE FRONT PROBABLY DOES NOT ALLOW ENOUGH MIXING FOR GALE FORCE WINDS FROM THE SOUTH. AFTER THE FRONT PASSES...MODEL SOUNDINGS A PERIOD OF WEST WINDS WHICH MAY NOT PRODUCE SMALL CRAFT WINDS IN ALL AREAS. HOWEVER...SEAS WILL REMAIN NEAR 6 FEET ON THE OCEAN...AND PERHAPS 5 FEET ON THE LOWER DELAWARE BAY. AS LOW PRESSURE DEEPENS ON ITS WAY SOUTH OF NOVA SCOTIA THIS EVENING...THE PRESSURE GRADIENT TIGHTENS CONSIDERABLY. THE GRADIENT ITSELF IS BORDERLINE FOR GALES...BUT MODEL SOUNDINGS SHOW THE DEPTH OF THE MIXED LAYER IN THE BEST COLD AIR ADVECTION INCREASING TO ALLOW ACCESS TO 35 TO 40 KNOTS OF WIND. THE SOUTHERN OCEAN WATERS AND THE LOWER DELAWARE BAY HAVE THE BEST CHANCE OF SEEING WIND GUSTS NEAR 40 KNOTS DURING A TIME WINDOW OF 0100 UTC TO 0600 UTC THURSDAY. FURTHER NORTH...THE GRADIENT IS ABOUT AS STRONG...BUT MODEL SOUNDINGS ARE LESS BULLISH WITH THE MIXING. BOTTOM LINE...THE GALE WARNING REMAINS IN PLACE...WITH THE STRONGEST WINDS ACROSS SOUTHERN AREAS. THE GRADIENT STARTS TO RELAX TOWARD 0900 UTC...AND ALL WATERS SHOULD BE BELOW GALE FORCE WINDS AT THAT TIME. OUTLOOK... CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED TO DROP TO SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY LEVELS BY THURSDAY MORNING...AND WINDS AND WAVES WILL SUBSIDE FURTHER THURSDAY MORNING AS HIGH PRESSURE BUILDS INTO THE AREA FROM THE WEST. THEN...SUB-ADVISORY CONDITIONS ARE FORECAST THURSDAY NIGHT INTO SUNDAY. A FRONT MOVING IN FROM THE WEST SUNDAY NIGHT COULD PRECEDE A PERIOD OF UNSETTLED WEATHER EARLY NEXT WEEK. && .HYDROLOGY... THE SECOND SLUG OF MOISTURE IS MOVING NORTHEAST WITH THE LOW LEVEL JET...AND THE HEAVIEST RAIN HAS MOVED OUT OF THE WATCH AREA. SINCE MOST PLACES THAT HAVE A THREAT ARE IN WARNINGS NOW...THE FLASH FLOOD WATCH HAS BEEN CANCELLED. THERE COULD BE SOME MORE RIVER FORECAST POINT WARNINGS...BUT THESE WOULD NOT BE COVERED BY A FLASH FLOOD WARNING. && .TIDES/COASTAL FLOODING... SOME LOCALIZED MINOR TIDAL FLOODING WAS REPORTED THIS MORNING AT THE TIME OF HIGH TIDE ALONG THE NJ/DE OCEAN FRONT, ON THE BACK BAYS, AND ON DELAWARE BAY. HIGH TIDE HAS PASSED, WATER LEVELS ARE NOW ON THE WAY DOWN, AND THE ADVISORY HAS EXPIRED. THE COASTAL FLOOD ADVISORY CONTINUES FOR THE TIDAL PORTION OF THE DELAWARE RIVER. HIGH TIDE WORKS ITS WAY UP THE TIDAL DELAWARE RIVER AND ITS TIDAL TRIBUTARIES BETWEEN ABOUT 800 AM AND 12:30 PM. THE LATE AFTERNOON AND EVENING TIDE IS ABOUT THREE-QUARTERS TO ONE FOOT LOWER THAN THIS MORNING. WINDS SHOULD SHIFT TO THE NORTH...AND INCREASE. THIS COULD RESULT IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF AN EKMAN SPIRAL MASS TRANSPORT (BUT IT MAY NOT BE IN PLACE LONG ENOUGH TO MATTER) TOWARD THE BEACH. RIGHT NOW...THIS TIDE DOES NOT APPEAR TO PRESENT A PROBLEM. THE NEXT TIDE OF INTEREST WOULD BE THE EARLY MORNING HIGH TIDE CYCLE THURSDAY. DESPITE THE OFFSHORE WIND...THE MDL EXTRATROPICAL SURGE MODEL IS SUGGESTING THAT THE OCEAN FRONT WILL SEE MINOR TIDAL FLOODING. THIS IS MORE THAN 24 HOURS OUT...WITH PLENTY OF TIME TO MONITOR TRENDS. && .PHI WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... PA...COASTAL FLOOD ADVISORY UNTIL 1 PM EST THIS AFTERNOON FOR PAZ070-071. NJ...COASTAL FLOOD ADVISORY UNTIL 1 PM EST THIS AFTERNOON FOR NJZ016>019. DE...COASTAL FLOOD ADVISORY UNTIL 1 PM EST THIS AFTERNOON FOR DEZ001. MD...NONE. MARINE...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY UNTIL 6 PM EST THIS EVENING FOR ANZ430- 431-450>455. GALE WARNING FROM 6 PM THIS EVENING TO 4 AM EST THURSDAY FOR ANZ430-431-450>455. && $$ SYNOPSIS... NEAR TERM...HAYES SHORT TERM...HAYES LONG TERM... AVIATION...HAYES MARINE...HAYES HYDROLOGY...HAYES TIDES/COASTAL FLOODING...HAYES/RPW
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NWS MOUNT HOLLY NJ
643 AM EST WED NOV 23 2011 .SYNOPSIS... INTENSIFYING LOW PRESSURE MOVING EASTWARD THROUGH PENNSYLVANIA EARLY THIS MORNING...WITH A WARM FRONT EXTENDING EASTWARD INTO OUR AREA...WILL PASS THROUGH OUR REGION LATER THIS MORNING AND EARLY THIS AFTERNOON. THE TRAILING COLD FRONT WILL MOVE SOUTHEAST OF OUR AREA BY EVENING. HIGH PRESSURE WILL BUILD INTO THE MID ATLANTIC STATES THURSDAY AND FRIDAY AND SAG SOUTHWARD INTO THE CAROLINAS THIS WEEKEND. A COLD FRONT MAY MOVE EASTWARD THROUGH OUR AREA SUNDAY NIGHT INTO EARLY MONDAY. LOW PRESSURE DEVELOPING OVER THE GREAT LAKES AND OHIO VALLEY AND EXTENDING INTO THE SOUTHEASTERN STATES BY TUESDAY MAY AFFECT OUR AREA INTO THE MIDDLE OF NEXT WEEK. && .NEAR TERM /UNTIL 6 PM THIS EVENING/... THE FIRST SHOT OR PRECIPITATION HAS MOVED OUT...WITH THE NEXT SHOT MOVING ACROSS AREAS NORTHWEST OF PHILADELPHIA. ALSO SEEING A LINE OF SHOWERS WITH A WIND SHIFT MOVING INTO THE LEHIGH VALLEY. FINALLY...A WARM FRONT CUTS ACROSS NORTHEAST MARYLAND...NORTHERN DELAWARE AND SOUTHERN NEW JERSEY. NORTH OF THE FRONT...THE AREA IS MOSTLY RAIN FREE AND WINDS HAVE SHIFTED TO THE SOUTH. THIS IS ALLOWING HIGHER DEW POINTS TO ADVECT INTO THAT AREA. THE MAIN WEATHER PROBLEM FOR TODAY WILL BE TIED TO A SURFACE COLD FRONT. AHEAD OF THE FRONT...MOISTURE RICH AIR IS RIDING NORTHEAST ON A 55 KNOT LOW LEVEL JET. FOR THE MOST PART...THE AIRMASS IS STABLE EVEN SOUTH OF THE WARM FRONT. THERE IS INSTABILITY ACROSS SOUTHEAST VIRGINIA...AND THIS COULD BE ADVECTED INTO SOUTHERN AREAS THIS MORNING. THE BEST CHANCE OF THUNDER WILL BE TIED TO THE INSTABILITY IN SOUTHEAST VIRGINIA. THE HRRR ADVECTS THIS INSTABILITY INTO NORTHEAST MARYLAND...DELAWARE AND SOUTHERN NEW JERSEY THROUGH ABOUT 1500 UTC. BASED ON THIS...WILL HOLD ONTO THE MENTION OF THUNDER IN THESE AREAS. THE BULK SHEAR VALUES WILL BE HIGH...BUT FOR NOW WILL HOLD OFF ON ENHANCED WORDING FOR GUSTY WINDS. THE HEAVIEST RAIN WILL FALL ACROSS EASTERN PENNSYLVANIA AND NORTHERN NE JERSEY THIS MORNING. AN ADDITIONAL ONE TO ONE AND ONE-HALF INCHES OF RAIN COULD FALL IN THE AIRMASS JUST AHEAD OF THE FRONT. THE ADDITIONAL RAIN SHOULD RESULT IN FLOODING. MORE ON THE FLOODING ISSUES IS INCLUDED IN THE HYDROLOGY SECTION BELOW. AFTER THE FRONT PASSES...THE MAIN MOISTURE SHOULD BE SCOURED BY THE FRONT AND EXITING LOW LEVEL JET. HOWEVER...THE MID LEVEL LONG WAVE TROUGH STILL REMAINS TO THE WEST. WHILE WINDS SHIFTING TO THE WEST BEHIND THE FRONT SHOULD DRY OUT OUT THE LOWER LEVELS...COLD MID LEVEL TEMPERATURES AND SYNOPTIC SCALE LIFT AHEAD OF THE LONG WAVE TROUGH COULD RESULT IN SHOWERS THIS AFTERNOON. DESPITE THE LOW LEVEL DRYING BEHIND THE FRONT...ANY MEANINGFUL CLEARING WILL HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THE PASSAGE OF THE MID LEVEL TROUGH. WITH THIS IN MIND...WILL REMAIN PESSIMISTIC WITH REGARD TO SKY COVER FOR ALL AREAS. HIGHS SHOULD OCCUR BEFORE THE FRONT PASSES THIS MORNING. TEMPERATURES ARE IN THE MID 60S ACROSS MUCH OF EASTERN VIRGINIA...AND THIS SHOULD ADVECT INTO SOUTHERN AREAS. THIS IS MORE OR LESS IN LINE WITH MOS VALUES...AND ARE ACCEPTED. ELSEWHERE...HIGHS WERE MAINLY BASED ON THE MOS BLEND. IT IS POSSIBLE THAT PORTIONS OF THE LEHIGH VALLEY AND SOUTHERN POCONOS MAY HAVE TEMPERATURES BECOME STEADY OR SLOWLY FALL BEHIND THE MAIN FRONT LATER THIS MORNING. THIS WAS ACCOUNTED FOR IN THE HOURLY TEMPERATURE FORECAST. FINALLY...THE GRADIENT STARTS TO TIGHTEN LATE THIS AFTERNOON AS SURFACE LOW PRESSURE DEEPENS TO THE NORTHEAST. THE GRADIENT SUPPORTS GUSTY WINDS IN JUST ABOUT ALL AREAS FROM MID AFTERNOON ON. MODEL SOUNDINGS SUGGEST GUSTS TO 35 MPH ARE POSSIBLE TOWARD DARK...AS WINDS SHIFT TO THE NORTH. && .SHORT TERM /6 PM THIS EVENING THROUGH 6 AM THURSDAY/... THE BIGGEST ISSUE THIS EVENING WILL BE THE WIND. AS THE SURFACE LOW DEEPENS TO THE NORTHEAST THIS EVENING...THE GRADIENT TIGHTENS CONSIDERABLY. THE GRADIENT ITSELF WOULD SUPPORT WIND GUSTS TO 25 MPH FOR JUST ABOUT ALL AREAS. HOWEVER...MODEL SOUNDINGS NEAR THE COAST SUGGEST A THREE HOUR WIND CENTERED AROUND 0000 UTC WHEN 43 KNOTS OF WIND MAY BE AVAILABLE AT THE TOP OF THE MIXED LAYER. THIS IS ABOUT THE TIME OF THE BEST COLD AIR ADVECTION...WHEN PRESSURE RISES OF 6 TO 7 MB IN 3 HOURS ARE FORECAST. THIS COULD RESULT IN A SHORT PERIOD OF NEAR WIND ADVISORY TYPE WINDS... ESPECIALLY FOR PORTION OF MARYLAND...DELAWARE AND SOUTHERN NEW JERSEY. RIGHT NOW...THE CONFIDENCE DOES NOT EXIST FOR THE ISSUANCE OF A WIND ADVISORY. THE MID LEVEL LONG WAVE TROUGH SHOULD EXIT THE COAST DURING THE EVENING (PROBABLY BEFORE 0300 UTC THURSDAY). WITH COLD MID LEVEL TEMPERATURES AND SOME SYNOPTIC SCALE LIFT WITH THE TROUGH ITSELF...A MENTION OF SHOWERS WAS LEFT IN PLACE FOR THE EVENING HOURS. IN THE WAKE OF THE TROUGH...SKIES SHOULD CLEAR FAIRLY QUICKLY. THE BEST GRADIENT OCCURS DURING THE EVENING...AND WEAKENS DURING THE LATE PART OF THE OVERNIGHT. THE WEAKENING GRADIENT AND COOLING OF THE LOWEST LEVELS COULD ALLOW SOME PROTECTED AREAS TO DECOUPLE LATER TONIGHT. THIS COULD RESULT IN SOME OF THESE LOCATIONS DROPPING BELOW MOS VALUES...BUT OVERALL...WITH A MIXED ENVIRONMENT MOST OF THE NIGHT...LOWS WERE BASED ON THE MOS BLEND. && .LONG TERM /THURSDAY THROUGH TUESDAY/... THE MODELS ARE A SOMEWHAT CONFIDENT ON INDICATING A COLD FRONT MOVING INTO OR THROUGH OUR AREA SUNDAY NIGHT INTO EARLY MONDAY. IT SEEMS TO BE AN ANAFRONT...SO HIGH CHANCE TO LOW LIKELY PRECIPITATION CHANCES WERE USED SUNDAY NIGHT MAINLY WEST AND CENTRAL. THEN...LOW PRESSURE FORMING SURFACE AND ALOFT ARE HANDLED SLIGHTLY DIFFERENTLY BY THE 00Z GFS AND 00Z ECMWF...WITH THE LATTER A LITTLE FURTHER SOUTH AND EAST WITH THE SURFACE LOW AS COMPARED WITH THE GFS. HOWEVER...THE GENERAL EVOLUTION OF THE AMPLIFYING UPPER PATTERN ON EACH IS SIMILAR. BUT, THIS MEANS A GOOD DEAL OF UNCERTAINTY IN LOCATION AND TIMING OF FEATURES. SO...AFTER SUNDAY NIGHT...A RATHER BROAD BRUSH WAS USED WITH HIGH CHANCE PROBABILITIES GENERALLY EMPLOYED. AT THIS POINT, IT LOOKS LIKE TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY WILL FEATURE AT LEAST SOME PRECIPITATION, AND IT COULD BE A SIGNIFICANT EVENT. TEMPERATURES IN THE GRIDS WERE NOT TOO DIFFERENT FROM HPC GUIDANCE PRODUCTS. && .AVIATION /12Z WEDNESDAY THROUGH SUNDAY/... THE FOLLOWING DISCUSSION IS FOR KPHL, KPNE, KTTN, KABE, KRDG, KILG, KMIV, KACY AND SURROUNDING AREAS. MVFR/IFR CONDITIONS CONTINUE EARLY THIS MORNING ACROSS THE REGION. THE FIRST SHOT OF STEADIER RANI HAS EXITED THE AREA...WITH SCATTERED SHOWERS IN BETWEEN. THE NEXT SHOT OF RAIN IS WAITING ACROSS WESTERN MARYLAND AND CENTRAL PENNSYLVANIA. AS THIS SHOT OF RAIN MOVES INTO THE AREA...IFR CEILINGS ARE EXPECTED IN ALL AREAS. LOW LEVEL WIND SHEAR IS NOW PRESENT IN THE KDIX VWP AND AMDAR SOUNDINGS OUT OF KPHL...WITH 45 KNOTS AT 2000 FEET. THE GREATEST EFFECTS OF THE OW LEVEL WIND SHEAR ARE BEING FELT FROM KPHL SOUTH AND WEST. THIS IS IN RESPONSE TO A LOW LEVEL JET APPROACHING FROM THE SOUTH SOUTHWEST. THE LOW LEVEL JET IS PUSHING THE NEXT SHOT OF PRECIPITATION...AND LOW LEVEL WIND SHEAR IS EXPECTED THROUGH A COLD FRONTAL PASSAGE LATE THIS MORNING. A WEAK COLD FRONT WILL CROSS THE REGION BETWEEN 1100 UTC AND 1400 UTC. THIS FRONT WILL ONLY SERVE AS A WIND SHIFT...WITH LITTLE NI THE WAY OF DRYING BEHIND. CEILINGS WILL REMAIN IFR THROUGH THE INITIAL COLD FRONTAL PASSAGE. A MORE SIGNIFICANT FRONT WILL CROSS THE REGION FROM WEST TO EAST BETWEEN 1600 UTC WEST AND 1900 UTC EAST. DRYING IN THE LOWER LEVELS SHOULD HELP CEILINGS JUMP TO MVFR...WITH A FEW SHOWERS POSSIBLE WITH THE FRONT. LOOKS FOR CEILINGS TO FINALLY GET TO VFR BETWEEN 1900 UTC AND 2200 UTC...FROM WEST TO EAST. WINDS WILL SHIFT TO THE WEST NORTHWEST BEHIND THE SECOND FRONT...AND AS THE SURFACE GRADIENT INCREASES...SHOULD GUST TO 25 KNOTS FOR THE MUCH OF THE REST OF THE AFTERNOON. AS LOW PRESSURE DEEPENS TO THE NORTHEAST LATE THIS AFTERNOON AND TONIGHT...WINDS WILL SHIFT TO THE NORTH. MODEL SOUNDINGS SUGGEST GUSTS BETWEEN 29 AND 35 KNOTS ARE POSSIBLE FOR A TIME BETWEEN 0100 UTC AND 0600 UTC...WITH THE HIGHEST GUSTS SOUTH AND EAST OF KPHL. ALL TERMINALS SHOULD BE VFR BY 0000 UTC...AND SKIES WILL CLEAR DURING THE EVENING HOURS. OUTLOOK... VFR CONDITIONS WILL OCCUR THURSDAY AND INTO MOST OF THE WEEKEND... AS HIGH PRESSURE BUILDING INTO OUR AREA WILL LIKELY HANG ON INTO SUNDAY. THURSDAY MAY START WITH SOMEWHAT GUSTY WINDS IN THE WAKE OF WEDNESDAYS FRONT, AS THE GRADIENT IS STILL A LITTLE STRONG. HOWEVER...ANY GUSTY MORNING WINDS SHOULD SETTLE DOWN IN THE AFTERNOON. A FRONT MOVING IN FROM THE WEST MAY BRING SOME LOWER CONDITIONS SUNDAY NIGHT INTO MONDAY. THEN...THE WEATHER BECOMES MORE COMPLICATED AND UNCERTAIN, AS EXTENSIVE LOW PRESSURE WELL TO OUR WEST OVER THE GREAT LAKES AND OHIO VALLEY AND INTO THE SOUTHEAST IS LIKELY TO BE A WEATHER-MAKER FOR OUR AREA IN THE EARLY AND MID PORTION OF NEXT WEEK. AVIATION CONDITIONS COULD BE LOW THROUGH THIS PERIOD. && .MARINE... THE SURFACE WARM FRONT EXTENDS ACROSS NORTHERN DELAWARE AND THE SOUTHERN THIRD OF NEW JERSEY EARLY THIS MORNING. NORTH OF THE FRONT...EAST TO NORTHEAST WINDS REMAIN CLOSE TO SMALL CRAFT LEVELS...WITH THE HIGHEST WINDS CLOSE TO SANDY HOOK. THE EASTERLY FETCH HAS ALSO RESULTED IN SMALL CRAFT SEAS. SOUTH OF THE FRONT...WINDS HAVE SHIFTED TO THE SOUTH...AND REMAIN JUST BELOW SMALL CRAFT LEVELS. THE DEPTH OF THE MIXED LAYER PROBABLY DOES NOT ALLOW THE MOMENTUM FROM THE PASSING LOW LEVEL JET TO MIX TO THE SURFACE...SO WINDS PROBABLY STAY NEAR SMALL CRAFT LEVELS AHEAD OF AN APPROACHING COLD FRONT. SEAS HERE ARE ALSO ABOVE 5 FEET...AS A RESULT OF THE PREVIOUS EASTERLY SWELL.. THE WARM FRONT MAY NOT CLEAR THE ENTIRE COAST THIS MORNING BEFORE THE COLD CROSSES. WINDS SHOULD REMAIN NEAR SMALL CRAFT LEVELS...BUT AS MENTIONED EARLIER...THE MOMENTUM AHEAD OF THE FRONT PROBABLY DOES NOT ALLOW ENOUGH MIXING FOR GALE FORCE WINDS FROM THE SOUTH. AFTER THE FRONT PASSES...MODEL SOUNDINGS A PERIOD OF WEST WINDS WHICH MAY NOT PRODUCE SMALL CRAFT WINDS IN ALL AREAS. HOWEVER...SEAS WILL REMAIN NEAR 6 FEET ON THE OCEAN...AND PERHAPS 5 FEET ON THE LOWER DELAWARE BAY. AS LOW PRESSURE DEEPENS ON ITS WAY SOUTH OF NOVA SCOTIA THIS EVENING...THE PRESSURE GRADIENT TIGHTENS CONSIDERABLY. THE GRADIENT ITSELF IS BORDERLINE FOR GALES...BUT MODEL SOUNDINGS SHOW THE DEPTH OF THE MIXED LAYER IN THE BEST COLD AIR ADVECTION INCREASING TO ALLOW ACCESS TO 35 TO 40 KNOTS OF WIND. THE SOUTHERN OCEAN WATERS AND THE LOWER DELAWARE BAY HAVE THE BEST CHANCE OF SEEING WIND GUSTS NEAR 40 KNOTS DURING A TIME WINDOW OF 0100 UTC TO 0600 UTC THURSDAY. FURTHER NORTH...THE GRADIENT IS ABOUT AS STRONG...BUT MODEL SOUNDINGS ARE LESS BULLISH WITH THE MIXING. BOTTOM LINE...THE GALE WARNING REMAINS IN PLACE...WITH THE STRONGEST WINDS ACROSS SOUTHERN AREAS. THE GRADIENT STARTS TO RELAX TOWARD 0900 UTC...AND ALL WATERS SHOULD BE BELOW GALE FORCE WINDS AT THAT TIME. OUTLOOK... CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED TO DROP TO SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY LEVELS BY THURSDAY MORNING...AND WINDS AND WAVES WILL SUBSIDE FURTHER THURSDAY MORNING AS HIGH PRESSURE BUILDS INTO THE AREA FROM THE WEST. THEN...SUB-ADVISORY CONDITIONS ARE FORECAST THURSDAY NIGHT INTO SUNDAY. A FRONT MOVING IN FROM THE WEST SUNDAY NIGHT COULD PRECEDE A PERIOD OF UNSETTLED WEATHER EARLY NEXT WEEK. && .HYDROLOGY... THE SECOND SLUG OF MOISTURE IS MOVING NORTHEAST WITH THE LOW LEVEL JET...AND THE HEAVIEST RAIN HAS MOVED OUT OF THE WATCH AREA. SINCE MOST PLACES THAT HAVE A THREAT ARE IN WARNINGS NOW...THE FLASH FLOOD WATCH HAS BEEN CANCELLED. THERE COULD BE SOME MORE RIVER FORECAST POINT WARNINGS...BUT THESE WOULD NOT BE COVERED BY A FLASH FLOOD WARNING. && .TIDES/COASTAL FLOODING... TIDE DEPARTURES EARLY THIS MORNING WERE GENERALLY RUNNING BETWEEN THREE-QUARTERS OF A FOOT AND ONE AND ONE-HALF FEET ABOVE PREDICTED. THE LARGEST DEPARTURES WERE SEEN ALONG THE CENTRAL NEW JERSEY COAST AND THE UPPER DELAWARE BAY. THE HIGH TIDE ALONG THE OCEAN FRONT OCCURS BETWEEN 500 AM AND 630 AM...AND LATER ON THE BACK BAYS. THE ONSHORE FLOW SHOULD WEAKEN AS A WARM FRONT MOVES NORTH...AND CROSSES MUCH OF THE AREA THIS MORNING. HOWEVER...THE PILING OF WATER BY THE ONSHORE FLOW WILL BE MORE THAN ENOUGH TO BRING MOST OCEAN LOCATIONS ABOVE THE MINOR TIDAL FLOODING BENCHMARK. SHOULD THE TIDAL DEPARTURES STAY THIS HIGH THROUGH THE MORNING HIGH TIDE CYCLE...A FEW PLACES COULD GET CLOSE TO MODERATE (SUCH AS SANDY HOOK...WHICH STAYS IN THE ONSHORE FLOW THE LONGEST). HOWEVER...THIS IS NOT EXPECTED...AND ALL TIDE MODELS SUGGEST THAT THE DEPARTURES START DROPPING AFTER THE PASSAGE OF THE WARM FRONT. THE HIGH TIDE IN THE DELAWARE BAY OCCURS A BIT LATER (850 AM AT REEDY POINT...FOR EXAMPLE). THE TIDE DEPARTURES THERE WOULD SUPPORT MINOR TIDAL FLOODING...DESPITE THE FACT THAT ALL TIDE MODELS REVIEWED FOR THE AREA SUGGEST TIDES WILL FALL SHORT OF THE BENCHMARK. RIGHT NOW...IT APPEARS AS THOUGH THE HIGH TIDE FOR THE DELAWARE RIVER WILL COME IN UNDER THE BENCHMARK. THIS WILL BE MONITORED...AS THE DEPARTURE NOW WOULD SUPPORT REACHING THAT LEVEL. THE LATE AFTERNOON AND EVENING TIDE IS ABOUT THREE-QUARTERS TO ONE FOOT LOWER THAN THIS MORNING. WINDS SHOULD SHIFT TO THE NORTH...AND INCREASE. THIS COULD RESULT IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF AN EKMAN SPIRAL MASS TRANSPORT (BUT IT MAY NOT BE IN PLACE LONG ENOUGH TO MATTER) TOWARD THE BEACH. RIGHT NOW...THIS TIDE DOES NOT APPEAR TO PRESENT A PROBLEM. THE NEXT TIDE OF INTEREST WOULD BE THE EARLY MORNING HIGH TIDE CYCLE THURSDAY. DESPITE THE OFFSHORE WIND...THE MDL EXTRATROPICAL SURGE MODEL IS SUGGESTING THAT THE OCEAN FRONT WILL SEE MINOR TIDAL FLOODING. THIS IS MORE THAN 24 HOURS OUT...WITH PLENTY OF TIME TO MONITOR TRENDS. && .PHI WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... PA...COASTAL FLOOD ADVISORY UNTIL 1 PM EST THIS AFTERNOON FOR PAZ070-071. NJ...COASTAL FLOOD ADVISORY UNTIL 9 AM EST THIS MORNING FOR NJZ012>014-020>027. COASTAL FLOOD ADVISORY UNTIL 1 PM EST THIS AFTERNOON FOR NJZ016>019. DE...COASTAL FLOOD ADVISORY UNTIL 9 AM EST THIS MORNING FOR DEZ002>004. COASTAL FLOOD ADVISORY UNTIL 1 PM EST THIS AFTERNOON FOR DEZ001. MD...NONE. MARINE...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY UNTIL 6 PM EST THIS EVENING FOR ANZ430- 431-450>455. GALE WARNING FROM 6 PM THIS EVENING TO 4 AM EST THURSDAY FOR ANZ430-431-450>455. && $$ SYNOPSIS... NEAR TERM...HAYES SHORT TERM...HAYES LONG TERM... AVIATION...HAYES MARINE...HAYES HYDROLOGY...HAYES TIDES/COASTAL FLOODING...HAYES
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS MOUNT HOLLY NJ
316 AM EST WED NOV 23 2011 .SYNOPSIS... INTENSIFYING LOW PRESSURE MOVING EASTWARD THROUGH PENNSYLVANIA EARLY THIS MORNING...WITH A WARM FRONT EXTENDING EASTWARD INTO OUR AREA...WILL PASS THROUGH OUR REGION LATER THIS MORNING AND EARLY THIS AFTERNOON. THE TRAILING COLD FRONT WILL MOVE SOUTHEAST OF OUR AREA BY EVENING. HIGH PRESSURE WILL BUILD INTO THE MID ATLANTIC STATES THURSDAY AND FRIDAY AND SAG SOUTHWARD INTO THE CAROLINAS THIS WEEKEND. A COLD FRONT MAY MOVE EASTWARD THROUGH OUR AREA SUNDAY NIGHT INTO EARLY MONDAY. LOW PRESSURE DEVELOPING OVER THE GREAT LAKES AND OHIO VALLEY AND EXTENDING INTO THE SOUTHEASTERN STATES BY TUESDAY MAY AFFECT OUR AREA INTO THE MIDDLE OF NEXT WEEK. && .NEAR TERM /UNTIL 6 PM THIS EVENING/... THE FIRST SHOT OR PRECIPITATION HAS MOVED OUT...WITH THE NEXT SHOT MOVING ACROSS AREAS NORTHWEST OF PHILADELPHIA. ALSO SEEING A LINE OF SHOWERS WITH A WIND SHIFT MOVING INTO THE LEHIGH VALLEY. FINALLY...A WARM FRONT CUTS ACROSS NORTHEAST MARYLAND...NORTHERN DELAWARE AND SOUTHERN NEW JERSEY. NORTH OF THE FRONT...THE AREA IS MOSTLY RAIN FREE AND WINDS HAVE SHIFTED TO THE SOUTH. THIS IS ALLOWING HIGHER DEW POINTS TO ADVECT INTO THAT AREA. THE MAIN WEATHER PROBLEM FOR TODAY WILL BE TIED TO A SURFACE COLD FRONT. AHEAD OF THE FRONT...MOISTURE RICH AIR IS RIDING NORTHEAST ON A 55 KNOT LOW LEVEL JET. FOR THE MOST PART...THE AIRMASS IS STABLE EVEN SOUTH OF THE WARM FRONT. THERE IS INSTABILITY ACROSS SOUTHEAST VIRGINIA...AND THIS COULD BE ADVECTED INTO SOUTHERN AREAS THIS MORNING. THE BEST CHANCE OF THUNDER WILL BE TIED TO THE INSTABILITY IN SOUTHEAST VIRGINIA. THE HRRR ADVECTS THIS INSTABILITY INTO NORTHEAST MARYLAND...DELAWARE AND SOUTHERN NEW JERSEY THROUGH ABOUT 1500 UTC. BASED ON THIS...WILL HOLD ONTO THE MENTION OF THUNDER IN THESE AREAS. THE BULK SHEAR VALUES WILL BE HIGH...BUT FOR NOW WILL HOLD OFF ON ENHANCED WORDING FOR GUSTY WINDS. THE HEAVIEST RAIN WILL FALL ACROSS EASTERN PENNSYLVANIA AND NORTHERN NE JERSEY THIS MORNING. AN ADDITIONAL ONE TO ONE AND ONE-HALF INCHES OF RAIN COULD FALL IN THE AIRMASS JUST AHEAD OF THE FRONT. THE ADDITIONAL RAIN SHOULD RESULT IN FLOODING. MORE ON THE FLOODING ISSUES IS INCLUDED IN THE HYDROLOGY SECTION BELOW. AFTER THE FRONT PASSES...THE MAIN MOISTURE SHOULD BE SCOURED BY THE FRONT AND EXITING LOW LEVEL JET. HOWEVER...THE MID LEVEL LONG WAVE TROUGH STILL REMAINS TO THE WEST. WHILE WINDS SHIFTING TO THE WEST BEHIND THE FRONT SHOULD DRY OUT OUT THE LOWER LEVELS...COLD MID LEVEL TEMPERATURES AND SYNOPTIC SCALE LIFT AHEAD OF THE LONG WAVE TROUGH COULD RESULT IN SHOWERS THIS AFTERNOON. DESPITE THE LOW LEVEL DRYING BEHIND THE FRONT...ANY MEANINGFUL CLEARING WILL HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THE PASSAGE OF THE MID LEVEL TROUGH. WITH THIS IN MIND...WILL REMAIN PESSIMISTIC WITH REGARD TO SKY COVER FOR ALL AREAS. HIGHS SHOULD OCCUR BEFORE THE FRONT PASSES THIS MORNING. TEMPERATURES ARE IN THE MID 60S ACROSS MUCH OF EASTERN VIRGINIA...AND THIS SHOULD ADVECT INTO SOUTHERN AREAS. THIS IS MORE OR LESS IN LINE WITH MOS VALUES...AND ARE ACCEPTED. ELSEWHERE...HIGHS WERE MAINLY BASED ON THE MOS BLEND. IT IS POSSIBLE THAT PORTIONS OF THE LEHIGH VALLEY AND SOUTHERN POCONOS MAY HAVE TEMPERATURES BECOME STEADY OR SLOWLY FALL BEHIND THE MAIN FRONT LATER THIS MORNING. THIS WAS ACCOUNTED FOR IN THE HOURLY TEMPERATURE FORECAST. FINALLY...THE GRADIENT STARTS TO TIGHTEN LATE THIS AFTERNOON AS SURFACE LOW PRESSURE DEEPENS TO THE NORTHEAST. THE GRADIENT SUPPORTS GUSTY WINDS IN JUST ABOUT ALL AREAS FROM MID AFTERNOON ON. MODEL SOUNDINGS SUGGEST GUSTS TO 35 MPH ARE POSSIBLE TOWARD DARK...AS WINDS SHIFT TO THE NORTH. && .SHORT TERM /6 PM THIS EVENING THROUGH 6 AM THURSDAY/... THE BIGGEST ISSUE THIS EVENING WILL BE THE WIND. AS THE SURFACE LOW DEEPENS TO THE NORTHEAST THIS EVENING...THE GRADIENT TIGHTENS CONSIDERABLY. THE GRADIENT ITSELF WOULD SUPPORT WIND GUSTS TO 25 MPH FOR JUST ABOUT ALL AREAS. HOWEVER...MODEL SOUNDINGS NEAR THE COAST SUGGEST A THREE HOUR WIND CENTERED AROUND 0000 UTC WHEN 43 KNOTS OF WIND MAY BE AVAILABLE AT THE TOP OF THE MIXED LAYER. THIS IS ABOUT THE TIME OF THE BEST COLD AIR ADVECTION...WHEN PRESSURE RISES OF 6 TO 7 MB IN 3 HOURS ARE FORECAST. THIS COULD RESULT IN A SHORT PERIOD OF NEAR WIND ADVISORY TYPE WINDS... ESPECIALLY FOR PORTION OF MARYLAND...DELAWARE AND SOUTHERN NEW JERSEY. RIGHT NOW...THE CONFIDENCE DOES NOT EXIST FOR THE ISSUANCE OF A WIND ADVISORY. THE MID LEVEL LONG WAVE TROUGH SHOULD EXIT THE COAST DURING THE EVENING (PROBABLY BEFORE 0300 UTC THURSDAY). WITH COLD MID LEVEL TEMPERATURES AND SOME SYNOPTIC SCALE LIFT WITH THE TROUGH ITSELF...A MENTION OF SHOWERS WAS LEFT IN PLACE FOR THE EVENING HOURS. IN THE WAKE OF THE TROUGH...SKIES SHOULD CLEAR FAIRLY QUICKLY. THE BEST GRADIENT OCCURS DURING THE EVENING...AND WEAKENS DURING THE LATE PART OF THE OVERNIGHT. THE WEAKENING GRADIENT AND COOLING OF THE LOWEST LEVELS COULD ALLOW SOME PROTECTED AREAS TO DECOUPLE LATER TONIGHT. THIS COULD RESULT IN SOME OF THESE LOCATIONS DROPPING BELOW MOS VALUES...BUT OVERALL...WITH A MIXED ENVIRONMENT MOST OF THE NIGHT...LOWS WERE BASED ON THE MOS BLEND. && .LONG TERM /THURSDAY THROUGH TUESDAY/... THE MODELS ARE A SOMEWHAT CONFIDENT ON INDICATING A COLD FRONT MOVING INTO OR THROUGH OUR AREA SUNDAY NIGHT INTO EARLY MONDAY. IT SEEMS TO BE AN ANAFRONT...SO HIGH CHANCE TO LOW LIKELY PRECIPITATION CHANCES WERE USED SUNDAY NIGHT MAINLY WEST AND CENTRAL. THEN...LOW PRESSURE FORMING SURFACE AND ALOFT ARE HANDLED SLIGHTLY DIFFERENTLY BY THE 00Z GFS AND 00Z ECMWF...WITH THE LATTER A LITTLE FURTHER SOUTH AND EAST WITH THE SURFACE LOW AS COMPARED WITH THE GFS. HOWEVER...THE GENERAL EVOLUTION OF THE AMPLIFYING UPPER PATTERN ON EACH IS SIMILAR. BUT, THIS MEANS A GOOD DEAL OF UNCERTAINTY IN LOCATION AND TIMING OF FEATURES. SO...AFTER SUNDAY NIGHT...A RATHER BROAD BRUSH WAS USED WITH HIGH CHANCE PROBABILITIES GENERALLY EMPLOYED. AT THIS POINT, IT LOOKS LIKE TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY WILL FEATURE AT LEAST SOME PRECIPITATION, AND IT COULD BE A SIGNIFICANT EVENT. TEMPERATURES IN THE GRIDS WERE NOT TOO DIFFERENT FROM HPC GUIDANCE PRODUCTS. && .AVIATION /08Z WEDNESDAY THROUGH SUNDAY/... THE FOLLOWING DISCUSSION IS FOR KPHL, KPNE, KTTN, KABE, KRDG, KILG, KMIV, KACY AND SURROUNDING AREAS. MVFR/IFR CONDITIONS CONTINUE EARLY THIS MORNING ACROSS THE REGION. THE FIRST SHOT OF STEADIER RANI HAS EXITED THE AREA...WITH SCATTERED SHOWERS IN BETWEEN. THE NEXT SHOT OF RAIN IS WAITING ACROSS WESTERN MARYLAND AND CENTRAL PENNSYLVANIA. AS THIS SHOT OF RAIN MOVES INTO THE AREA...IFR CEILINGS ARE EXPECTED IN ALL AREAS. LOW LEVEL WIND SHEAR IS NOW PRESENT IN THE KDIX VWP AND AMDAR SOUNDINGS OUT OF KPHL...WITH 45 KNOTS AT 2000 FEET. THE GREATEST EFFECTS OF THE OW LEVEL WIND SHEAR ARE BEING FELT FROM KPHL SOUTH AND WEST. THIS IS IN RESPONSE TO A LOW LEVEL JET APPROACHING FROM THE SOUTH SOUTHWEST. THE LOW LEVEL JET IS PUSHING THE NEXT SHOT OF PRECIPITATION...AND LOW LEVEL WIND SHEAR IS EXPECTED THROUGH A COLD FRONTAL PASSAGE LATE THIS MORNING. A WEAK COLD FRONT WILL CROSS THE REGION BETWEEN 1100 UTC AND 1400 UTC. THIS FRONT WILL ONLY SERVE AS A WIND SHIFT...WITH LITTLE NI THE WAY OF DRYING BEHIND. CEILINGS WILL REMAIN IFR THROUGH THE INITIAL COLD FRONTAL PASSAGE. A MORE SIGNIFICANT FRONT WILL CROSS THE REGION FROM WEST TO EAST BETWEEN 1600 UTC WEST AND 1900 UTC EAST. DRYING IN THE LOWER LEVELS SHOULD HELP CEILINGS JUMP TO MVFR...WITH A FEW SHOWERS POSSIBLE WITH THE FRONT. LOOKS FOR CEILINGS TO FINALLY GET TO VFR BETWEEN 1900 UTC AND 2200 UTC...FROM WEST TO EAST. WINDS WILL SHIFT TO THE WEST NORTHWEST BEHIND THE SECOND FRONT...AND AS THE SURFACE GRADIENT INCREASES...SHOULD GUST TO 25 KNOTS FOR THE MUCH OF THE REST OF THE AFTERNOON. AS LOW PRESSURE DEEPENS TO THE NORTHEAST LATE THIS AFTERNOON AND TONIGHT...WINDS WILL SHIFT TO THE NORTH. MODEL SOUNDINGS SUGGEST GUSTS BETWEEN 29 AND 35 KNOTS ARE POSSIBLE FOR A TIME BETWEEN 0100 UTC AND 0600 UTC...WITH THE HIGHEST GUSTS SOUTH AND EAST OF KPHL. ALL TERMINALS SHOULD BE VFR BY 0000 UTC...AND SKIES WILL CLEAR DURING THE EVENING HOURS. OUTLOOK... VFR CONDITIONS WILL OCCUR THURSDAY AND INTO MOST OF THE WEEKEND... AS HIGH PRESSURE BUILDING INTO OUR AREA WILL LIKELY HANG ON INTO SUNDAY. THURSDAY MAY START WITH SOMEWHAT GUSTY WINDS IN THE WAKE OF WEDNESDAYS FRONT, AS THE GRADIENT IS STILL A LITTLE STRONG. HOWEVER...ANY GUSTY MORNING WINDS SHOULD SETTLE DOWN IN THE AFTERNOON. A FRONT MOVING IN FROM THE WEST MAY BRING SOME LOWER CONDITIONS SUNDAY NIGHT INTO MONDAY. THEN...THE WEATHER BECOMES MORE COMPLICATED AND UNCERTAIN, AS EXTENSIVE LOW PRESSURE WELL TO OUR WEST OVER THE GREAT LAKES AND OHIO VALLEY AND INTO THE SOUTHEAST IS LIKELY TO BE A WEATHER-MAKER FOR OUR AREA IN THE EARLY AND MID PORTION OF NEXT WEEK. AVIATION CONDITIONS COULD BE LOW THROUGH THIS PERIOD. && .MARINE... THE SURFACE WARM FRONT EXTENDS ACROSS NORTHERN DELAWARE AND THE SOUTHERN THIRD OF NEW JERSEY EARLY THIS MORNING. NORTH OF THE FRONT...EAST TO NORTHEAST WINDS REMAIN CLOSE TO SMALL CRAFT LEVELS...WITH THE HIGHEST WINDS CLOSE TO SANDY HOOK. THE EASTERLY FETCH HAS ALSO RESULTED IN SMALL CRAFT SEAS. SOUTH OF THE FRONT...WINDS HAVE SHIFTED TO THE SOUTH...AND REMAIN JUST BELOW SMALL CRAFT LEVELS. THE DEPTH OF THE MIXED LAYER PROBABLY DOES NOT ALLOW THE MOMENTUM FROM THE PASSING LOW LEVEL JET TO MIX TO THE SURFACE...SO WINDS PROBABLY STAY NEAR SMALL CRAFT LEVELS AHEAD OF AN APPROACHING COLD FRONT. SEAS HERE ARE ALSO ABOVE 5 FEET...AS A RESULT OF THE PREVIOUS EASTERLY SWELL.. THE WARM FRONT MAY NOT CLEAR THE ENTIRE COAST THIS MORNING BEFORE THE COLD CROSSES. WINDS SHOULD REMAIN NEAR SMALL CRAFT LEVELS...BUT AS MENTIONED EARLIER...THE MOMENTUM AHEAD OF THE FRONT PROBABLY DOES NOT ALLOW ENOUGH MIXING FOR GALE FORCE WINDS FROM THE SOUTH. AFTER THE FRONT PASSES...MODEL SOUNDINGS A PERIOD OF WEST WINDS WHICH MAY NOT PRODUCE SMALL CRAFT WINDS IN ALL AREAS. HOWEVER...SEAS WILL REMAIN NEAR 6 FEET ON THE OCEAN...AND PERHAPS 5 FEET ON THE LOWER DELAWARE BAY. AS LOW PRESSURE DEEPENS ON ITS WAY SOUTH OF NOVA SCOTIA THIS EVENING...THE PRESSURE GRADIENT TIGHTENS CONSIDERABLY. THE GRADIENT ITSELF IS BORDERLINE FOR GALES...BUT MODEL SOUNDINGS SHOW THE DEPTH OF THE MIXED LAYER IN THE BEST COLD AIR ADVECTION INCREASING TO ALLOW ACCESS TO 35 TO 40 KNOTS OF WIND. THE SOUTHERN OCEAN WATERS AND THE LOWER DELAWARE BAY HAVE THE BEST CHANCE OF SEEING WIND GUSTS NEAR 40 KNOTS DURING A TIME WINDOW OF 0100 UTC TO 0600 UTC THURSDAY. FURTHER NORTH...THE GRADIENT IS ABOUT AS STRONG...BUT MODEL SOUNDINGS ARE LESS BULLISH WITH THE MIXING. BOTTOM LINE...THE GALE WARNING REMAINS IN PLACE...WITH THE STRONGEST WINDS ACROSS SOUTHERN AREAS. THE GRADIENT STARTS TO RELAX TOWARD 0900 UTC...AND ALL WATERS SHOULD BE BELOW GALE FORCE WINDS AT THAT TIME. OUTLOOK... CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED TO DROP TO SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY LEVELS BY THURSDAY MORNING...AND WINDS AND WAVES WILL SUBSIDE FURTHER THURSDAY MORNING AS HIGH PRESSURE BUILDS INTO THE AREA FROM THE WEST. THEN...SUB-ADVISORY CONDITIONS ARE FORECAST THURSDAY NIGHT INTO SUNDAY. A FRONT MOVING IN FROM THE WEST SUNDAY NIGHT COULD PRECEDE A PERIOD OF UNSETTLED WEATHER EARLY NEXT WEEK. && .HYDROLOGY... THE FIRST SLUG OF MOISTURE ASSOCIATED WITH STRONG WARM AIR ADVECTION OVER THE SURFACE WARM FRONT PRODUCED 1 TO 2 INCHES OF RAIN ACROSS EASTERN PENNSYLVANIA AND MUCH OF NEW JERSEY. SMALL STREAMS HAVE RESPONDED AND FLOOD WARNINGS HAVE BEEN ISSUED. THE NEXT SLUG IS AFFECTING THE LEHIGH VALLEY AND SOUTHERN POCONOS...AND IS MOVING INTO NORTHWEST NEW JERSEY. THIS SLUG OF MOISTURE IS BEING DRIVEN BY A 55 KNOT LOW LEVEL JET. THE AIRMASS HAS PRECIPITABLE WATER VALUES REACHING NEAR 1.50 INCHES...AND IS STARTING TO PRESENT SOME CONVECTIVE CHARACTERISTICS. THIS NEXT SLUG COULD PUSH SOME OF THE CREEKS AND STREAMS RUNNING HIGH ACROSS EASTERN PENNSYLVANIA AND NORTH CENTRAL NEW JERSEY ABOVE FLOOD...SO THE FLASH FLOOD WATCH REMAINS IN PLACE. BASED ON THE TIMING OF THE COLD FRONT...MUCH OF THE HEAVY RAIN SHOULD BE EAST OF THE WATCH AREA LATER THIS MORNING. HOWEVER...RUNOFF MAY PRESENT PROBLEMS AFTER THIS...SO THE TIMING OF THE WATCH REMAINS THE SAME. THE SOUTHERN POCONOS WERE ADDED TO THE WATCH EARLIER...AS UPSTREAM HEAVY RAIN COULD BECOME A PROBLEM FOR STREAMS AND CREEKS THERE. && .TIDES/COASTAL FLOODING... TIDE DEPARTURES EARLY THIS MORNING WERE GENERALLY RUNNING BETWEEN THREE-QUARTERS OF A FOOT AND ONE AND ONE-HALF FEET ABOVE PREDICTED. THE LARGEST DEPARTURES WERE SEEN ALONG THE CENTRAL NEW JERSEY COAST AND THE UPPER DELAWARE BAY. THE HIGH TIDE ALONG THE OCEAN FRONT OCCURS BETWEEN 500 AM AND 630 AM...AND LATER ON THE BACK BAYS. THE ONSHORE FLOW SHOULD WEAKEN AS A WARM FRONT MOVES NORTH...AND CROSSES MUCH OF THE AREA THIS MORNING. HOWEVER...THE PILING OF WATER BY THE ONSHORE FLOW WILL BE MORE THAN ENOUGH TO BRING MOST OCEAN LOCATIONS ABOVE THE MINOR TIDAL FLOODING BENCHMARK. SHOULD THE TIDAL DEPARTURES STAY THIS HIGH THROUGH THE MORNING HIGH TIDE CYCLE...A FEW PLACES COULD GET CLOSE TO MODERATE (SUCH AS SANDY HOOK...WHICH STAYS IN THE ONSHORE FLOW THE LONGEST). HOWEVER...THIS IS NOT EXPECTED...AND ALL TIDE MODELS SUGGEST THAT THE DEPARTURES START DROPPING AFTER THE PASSAGE OF THE WARM FRONT. THE HIGH TIDE IN THE DELAWARE BAY OCCURS A BIT LATER (850 AM AT REEDY POINT...FOR EXAMPLE). THE TIDE DEPARTURES THERE WOULD SUPPORT MINOR TIDAL FLOODING...DESPITE THE FACT THAT ALL TIDE MODELS REVIEWED FOR THE AREA SUGGEST TIDES WILL FALL SHORT OF THE BENCHMARK. RIGHT NOW...IT APPEARS AS THOUGH THE HIGH TIDE FOR THE DELAWARE RIVER WILL COME IN UNDER THE BENCHMARK. THIS WILL BE MONITORED...AS THE DEPARTURE NOW WOULD SUPPORT REACHING THAT LEVEL. THE LATE AFTERNOON AND EVENING TIDE IS ABOUT THREE-QUARTERS TO ONE FOOT LOWER THAN THIS MORNING. WINDS SHOULD SHIFT TO THE NORTH...AND INCREASE. THIS COULD RESULT IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF AN EKMAN SPIRAL MASS TRANSPORT (BUT IT MAY NOT BE IN PLACE LONG ENOUGH TO MATTER) TOWARD THE BEACH. RIGHT NOW...THIS TIDE DOES NOT APPEAR TO PRESENT A PROBLEM. THE NEXT TIDE OF INTEREST WOULD BE THE EARLY MORNING HIGH TIDE CYCLE THURSDAY. DESPITE THE OFFSHORE WIND...THE MDL EXTRATROPICAL SURGE MODEL IS SUGGESTING THAT THE OCEAN FRONT WILL SEE MINOR TIDAL FLOODING. THIS IS MORE THAN 24 HOURS OUT...WITH PLENTY OF TIME TO MONITOR TRENDS. && .PHI WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... PA...FLASH FLOOD WATCH UNTIL 1 PM EST THIS AFTERNOON FOR PAZ054-055- 060>062-067>071. COASTAL FLOOD ADVISORY FROM 8 AM THIS MORNING TO 1 PM EST THIS AFTERNOON FOR PAZ070-071. NJ...FLASH FLOOD WATCH UNTIL 1 PM EST THIS AFTERNOON FOR NJZ001- 007>010-012-015. COASTAL FLOOD ADVISORY UNTIL 9 AM EST THIS MORNING FOR NJZ012>014-020>027. COASTAL FLOOD ADVISORY FROM 8 AM THIS MORNING TO 1 PM EST THIS AFTERNOON FOR NJZ016>019. DE...FLASH FLOOD WATCH UNTIL 1 PM EST THIS AFTERNOON FOR DEZ001. COASTAL FLOOD ADVISORY UNTIL 9 AM EST THIS MORNING FOR DEZ002>004. COASTAL FLOOD ADVISORY FROM 8 AM THIS MORNING TO 1 PM EST THIS AFTERNOON FOR DEZ001. MD...NONE. MARINE...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY UNTIL 6 PM EST THIS EVENING FOR ANZ430- 431-450>455. GALE WARNING FROM 6 PM THIS EVENING TO 4 AM EST THURSDAY FOR ANZ430-431-450>455. && $$ SYNOPSIS... NEAR TERM...HAYES SHORT TERM...HAYES LONG TERM... AVIATION...HAYES MARINE...HAYES HYDROLOGY... TIDES/COASTAL FLOODING...
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS LINCOLN IL
852 PM CST THU NOV 24 2011 .DISCUSSION... ISSUED 852 PM CST THU NOV 24 2011 LOW STRATUS IS COMING BACK NORTH...AIDED BY STRONG SOUTHERLY WINDS. THIS AREA OF CLOUDS IS NOT VERY WIDE SO SOME AREAS IN THE SOUTHEAST COULD SEE SOME CLEARING OVERNIGHT...WHILE OTHER AREAS BECOME CLOUDY AGAIN. CURRENT FORECAST SEEMS TO HAVE A GOOD HANDLE ON THE GOING TRENDS SO NO UPDATE REQUIRED AT THIS TIME. HOWEVER...HAVE BEEN MAKING ADJUSTMENTS TO THE GRIDS TO BETTER REFLECT THE CLOUD COVER TRENDS. AUTEN && .AVIATION... ISSUED 545 PM CST THU NOV 24 2011 LOW CLOUDS HAVE FINALLY DISSIPATED OR MOVED EAST OF THE TAF SITES THIS AFTERNOON. HOWEVER...SATELLITE LOOP OF LOWER CLOUDS SHOWS THEM ADVECTING BACK TO THE NORTHWEST THIS EVENING AND SPREADING OVER THE SITES THIS EVENING AND INTO OVERNIGHT. THESE LOWER CLOUDS WILL DISSIPATE TOMORROW AFTERNOON...BUT CIRRUS WILL REMAIN. WINDS WILL REMAIN SOUTHERLY OVERNIGHT WITH LOW LEVEL WINDS INCREASING AFTER MIDNIGHT TO AROUND 40KTS AT 1.5KFT. SO WILL KEEP WS IN FORECAST FOR ALL SITES. ONCE CLOUDS DISSIPATE THEN SFC WINDS WILL INCREASE OUT OF THE SSE WITH GUSTS TO AROUND 25-57KTS. AUTEN && .PREV DISCUSSION... ISSUED 300 PM CST THU NOV 24 2011 INITIAL CONCERN WILL BE POSSIBLE REDEVELOPMENT OF LOW STRATUS CLOUDS TONIGHT INTO FRIDAY MORNING. THEN ATTENTION TURNS TO THE ONSET OF RAIN LATE FRIDAY NIGHT THROUGH SATURDAY AND THE ARRIVAL OF COLDER AIR FOR MUCH OF THE EXTENDED FORECAST. SHORT TERM...TONIGHT THROUGH SATURDAY NIGHT. CHALLENGING FORECAST FOR TONIGHT IN TERMS OF CLOUDS AND RESULTANT LOW TEMPS. THE ONLY MODELS THAT SEEM TO HAVE A DECENT HANDLE ON THE LOW LEVEL MOISTURE ARE THE HRRR AND SPC 4KM WRF. BOTH OF THEM ARE INDICATING CLOUD REDEVELOPMENT ACROSS CENTRAL IL AND EVEN SURROUNDING PORTIONS OF IL. THE NAM AND GFS SOUNDINGS SHOW A LOW LEVEL SATURATION AS WELL...BUT SHALLOW. FORECAST WIND TRAJECTORY FLOWS INDICATE WE SHOULD SEE THE SW RETURN FLOW ORIGINATING WHERE STRATUS CLOUDS ARE LINGERING THIS AFTERNOON IN MO/AR. A TIGHTER PRESSURE GRADIENT WOULD TYPICALLY KEEP WINDS UP AT NIGHT...BUT THE LOW LEVEL INVERSION LOOKS TO BE PLENTY STRONG ENOUGH TO PREVENT MIXING OVERNIGHT. WILL FORECAST CLOUDS TO REFORM...AND KEEP LOW TEMPS A COUPLE DEGREES WARMER THAN GUIDANCE. CLEARING SHOULD COME QUICKER ON FRIDAY AS MORE PROMINENT MIXING WILL OCCUR UNDER A MUCH STRONGER SFC PRESSURE GRADIENT. PLENTY OF DRY AIR ALOFT WILL AID IN CLOUD EROSION. WINDY CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED WITH SSW GUSTS OVER 30 MPH. TEMPS WILL RESPOND IN KIND AS WAA FLOWS PUSH 850 MB TEMPS UP NEAR 12C. THAT COUPLED WITH ADDITIONAL SUNSHINE SHOULD PUT HIGHS INTO THE L-M 60S. BROAD SCALE ISENTROPIC LIFT AHEAD OF THE NEXT COLD FRONT WILL HELP PRIME THE ATMOSPHERE FOR RAIN TO DEVELOP W OF THE IL RIVER AFTER MIDNIGHT FRIDAY NIGHT. HOWEVER...BASED ON FORECAST CONDENSATION PRESSURE DEFICITS /CPD/...IT STILL APPEARS WE WILL HAVE A 5-7 HOUR WINDOW OF STEADY RAINS AS THE FRONT PROGRESSES EASTWARD DURING THE DAY ON SATURDAY. WE WILL CONTINUE WITH CATEGORICAL POPS WEST IN THE MORNING AND EAST IN THE AFTERNOON. SOME SHOWERS MAY LINGER IN THE EVENING ACROSS THE EAST...SO WILL CONTINUE WITH CHANCE POPS AS SUBSIDENT FLOWS BEGIN TO SHUT DOWN MEASURABLE PRECIP. COLD AIR WILL RETURN ON BRISK NW WINDS SAT NIGHT. MOST OF THE PRECIP SHOULD COME TO AN END BEFORE THE AIR COLUMN GETS COLD ENOUGH FOR SNOW. HOWEVER...WE CAN NOT RULE OUT SOME FLURRIES POSSIBLE AFTER MIDNIGHT SAT NIGHT. BY 12Z SUNDAY...ANOTHER WAVE OF ISENTROPIC LIFT AND LOW CPD/S IS INDICATED AS THE UPPER TROUGH MOVES ACROSS IL. ENOUGH RESIDUAL MOISTURE MAY BE PRESENT FOR A FEW LIGHT RAIN/SNOW SHOWERS AFTER MIDNIGHT...AND FLURRIES NORTH/SPRINKLES SOUTH ON SUNDAY. BY SUNDAY NIGHT...ALL PRECIP SHOULD COME TO AN END FROM THIS SYSTEM...AS THE UPPER TROUGH AXIS FINALLY SLIDES EAST. LONG TERM...MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY. THE EXTENDED FORECAST SHOWS PERSISTENT COLD CONDITIONS AS A CUT OFF LOW POSSIBLY DEVELOPS ACROSS THE SOUTHERN OHIO RIVER VALLEY. THERE HAS BEEN A WIDE VARIETY OF SOLUTIONS FROM THE MODELS ON THIS CUT OFF FEATURE...WITH THE ECMWF AND THE CANADIAN THE MAIN ONES SHOWING THIS FEATURE. THE ECMWF BEING A BIT MORE PRONOUNCED AND SLOWER THAN THE CANADIAN. THE GFS KEEPS A PROGRESSIVE PATTERN WITH NORTHWEST FLOW AND A DRY FRONTAL PASSAGE ON MONDAY NIGHT/TUESDAY ACROSS IL. DESPITE THE DIFFERING SOLUTIONS...THE OVERALL SENSIBLE WEATHER LOOKS TO BE ON THE CHILLY SIDE WITH PERIODICALLY BREEZY CONDITIONS. SHIMON && .ILX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... NONE. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS LINCOLN IL
545 PM CST THU NOV 24 2011 .DISCUSSION... ISSUED 300 PM CST THU NOV 24 2011 INITIAL CONCERN WILL BE POSSIBLE REDEVELOPMENT OF LOW STRATUS CLOUDS TONIGHT INTO FRIDAY MORNING. THEN ATTENTION TURNS TO THE ONSET OF RAIN LATE FRIDAY NIGHT THROUGH SATURDAY AND THE ARRIVAL OF COLDER AIR FOR MUCH OF THE EXTENDED FORECAST. SHORT TERM...TONIGHT THROUGH SATURDAY NIGHT. CHALLENGING FORECAST FOR TONIGHT IN TERMS OF CLOUDS AND RESULTANT LOW TEMPS. THE ONLY MODELS THAT SEEM TO HAVE A DECENT HANDLE ON THE LOW LEVEL MOISTURE ARE THE HRRR AND SPC 4KM WRF. BOTH OF THEM ARE INDICATING CLOUD REDEVELOPMENT ACROSS CENTRAL IL AND EVEN SURROUNDING PORTIONS OF IL. THE NAM AND GFS SOUNDINGS SHOW A LOW LEVEL SATURATION AS WELL...BUT SHALLOW. FORECAST WIND TRAJECTORY FLOWS INDICATE WE SHOULD SEE THE SW RETURN FLOW ORIGINATING WHERE STRATUS CLOUDS ARE LINGERING THIS AFTERNOON IN MO/AR. A TIGHTER PRESSURE GRADIENT WOULD TYPICALLY KEEP WINDS UP AT NIGHT...BUT THE LOW LEVEL INVERSION LOOKS TO BE PLENTY STRONG ENOUGH TO PREVENT MIXING OVERNIGHT. WILL FORECAST CLOUDS TO REFORM...AND KEEP LOW TEMPS A COUPLE DEGREES WARMER THAN GUIDANCE. CLEARING SHOULD COME QUICKER ON FRIDAY AS MORE PROMINENT MIXING WILL OCCUR UNDER A MUCH STRONGER SFC PRESSURE GRADIENT. PLENTY OF DRY AIR ALOFT WILL AID IN CLOUD EROSION. WINDY CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED WITH SSW GUSTS OVER 30 MPH. TEMPS WILL RESPOND IN KIND AS WAA FLOWS PUSH 850 MB TEMPS UP NEAR 12C. THAT COUPLED WITH ADDITIONAL SUNSHINE SHOULD PUT HIGHS INTO THE L-M 60S. BROAD SCALE ISENTROPIC LIFT AHEAD OF THE NEXT COLD FRONT WILL HELP PRIME THE ATMOSPHERE FOR RAIN TO DEVELOP W OF THE IL RIVER AFTER MIDNIGHT FRIDAY NIGHT. HOWEVER...BASED ON FORECAST CONDENSATION PRESSURE DEFICITS /CPD/...IT STILL APPEARS WE WILL HAVE A 5-7 HOUR WINDOW OF STEADY RAINS AS THE FRONT PROGRESSES EASTWARD DURING THE DAY ON SATURDAY. WE WILL CONTINUE WITH CATEGORICAL POPS WEST IN THE MORNING AND EAST IN THE AFTERNOON. SOME SHOWERS MAY LINGER IN THE EVENING ACROSS THE EAST...SO WILL CONTINUE WITH CHANCE POPS AS SUBSIDENT FLOWS BEGIN TO SHUT DOWN MEASURABLE PRECIP. COLD AIR WILL RETURN ON BRISK NW WINDS SAT NIGHT. MOST OF THE PRECIP SHOULD COME TO AN END BEFORE THE AIR COLUMN GETS COLD ENOUGH FOR SNOW. HOWEVER...WE CAN NOT RULE OUT SOME FLURRIES POSSIBLE AFTER MIDNIGHT SAT NIGHT. BY 12Z SUNDAY...ANOTHER WAVE OF ISENTROPIC LIFT AND LOW CPD/S IS INDICATED AS THE UPPER TROUGH MOVES ACROSS IL. ENOUGH RESIDUAL MOISTURE MAY BE PRESENT FOR A FEW LIGHT RAIN/SNOW SHOWERS AFTER MIDNIGHT...AND FLURRIES NORTH/SPRINKLES SOUTH ON SUNDAY. BY SUNDAY NIGHT...ALL PRECIP SHOULD COME TO AN END FROM THIS SYSTEM...AS THE UPPER TROUGH AXIS FINALLY SLIDES EAST. LONG TERM...MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY. THE EXTENDED FORECAST SHOWS PERSISTENT COLD CONDITIONS AS A CUT OFF LOW POSSIBLY DEVELOPS ACROSS THE SOUTHERN OHIO RIVER VALLEY. THERE HAS BEEN A WIDE VARIETY OF SOLUTIONS FROM THE MODELS ON THIS CUT OFF FEATURE...WITH THE ECMWF AND THE CANADIAN THE MAIN ONES SHOWING THIS FEATURE. THE ECMWF BEING A BIT MORE PRONOUNCED AND SLOWER THAN THE CANADIAN. THE GFS KEEPS A PROGRESSIVE PATTERN WITH NORTHWEST FLOW AND A DRY FRONTAL PASSAGE ON MONDAY NIGHT/TUESDAY ACROSS IL. DESPITE THE DIFFERING SOLUTIONS...THE OVERALL SENSIBLE WEATHER LOOKS TO BE ON THE CHILLY SIDE WITH PERIODICALLY BREEZY CONDITIONS. SHIMON && .AVIATION... ISSUED 545 PM CST THU NOV 24 2011 LOW CLOUDS HAVE FINALLY DISSIPATED OR MOVED EAST OF THE TAF SITES THIS AFTERNOON. HOWEVER...SATELLITE LOOP OF LOWER CLOUDS SHOWS THEM ADVECTING BACK TO THE NORTHWEST THIS EVENING AND SPREADING OVER THE SITES THIS EVENING AND INTO OVERNIGHT. THESE LOWER CLOUDS WILL DISSIPATE TOMORROW AFTERNOON...BUT CIRRUS WILL REMAIN. WINDS WILL REMAIN SOUTHERLY OVERNIGHT WITH LOW LEVEL WINDS INCREASING AFTER MIDNIGHT TO AROUND 40KTS AT 1.5KFT. SO WILL KEEP WS IN FORECAST FOR ALL SITES. ONCE CLOUDS DISSIPATE THEN SFC WINDS WILL INCREASE OUT OF THE SSE WITH GUSTS TO AROUND 25-57KTS. AUTEN && .ILX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... NONE. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS CHICAGO/ROMEOVILLE IL
248 PM CST WED NOV 23 2011 .DISCUSSION... 340 AM CST AFTER A GLOOMY TUESDAY...GENERALLY TRANQUIL WEATHER WILL BE SEEN FOR MUCH OF THE NEXT 60 HOURS TO THE JOY OF HOLIDAY TRAVELERS AND SHOPPERS. THE CHALLENGES IN THE FORECAST FOR THE NEXT THREE DAYS ARE STRATUS/FOG EARLY THIS MORNING AND AGAIN FOR THANKSGIVING MORNING AND ITS ASSOCIATED IMPACTS ON TEMPERATURES. THEN THE FOCUS TURNS TO THIS WEEKEND INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK WITH COOLER AIR AND SNOW CHANCES. SYNOPSIS...THE SYSTEM THAT BROUGHT THE RAIN YESTERDAY IS NOW EXITING THE PICTURE ACROSS THE NORTHEAST. THE BACK END OF THE PRIMARY CLOUD SHIELD WILL MOVE OUT OF THE CWA BY MID-MORNING. LINGERING LOW-LEVEL MOISTURE UNDER A SUBSIDENCE INVERSION AND INCOMING SURFACE RIDGING HAS ALLOWED FOR EXPANSIVE STRATUS FROM MN/WESTERN WI SOUTH THROUGH THE LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY. IN ADDITION...SOME STRATUS/FOG IS OOZING ITS WAY SOUTH ALONG THE WEST SHORE OF LAKE MI. SIMILAR STRATUS MAY TRY TO DEVELOP UNTIL MID- MORNING AS THE PRIMARY SYNOPTIC CLOUD SHIELD EXITS ACROSS NORTHWEST IN. LIGHT FOG IS SEEN IN THE CLEAR AREAS...PRESUMABLY NOT HAVING BECOME MUCH WORSE DUE TO A LIGHT WIND COMPONENT. TODAY AND TONIGHT...THE STRATUS CREEPING INTO THE NORTHERN CHICAGO METRO IS NOT HANDLED WELL BY MOST OF THE MODELS...WHICH CAN BE EXPECTED WITH SUCH A SMALL SCALE FEATURE. THE RUC AND NAM PROFILES FOR ORD...WHILE NOT FULLY SATURATING IN THE LOW LAYERS...SHOW THE INVERSION VERY SLOW TO LIFT THIS MORNING. HAVE KEPT THOSE CLOUDS THROUGH MUCH OF THE MORNING WITHIN THE FORECAST...AS WELL AS ACCOUNTED FOR SOME SCATTERED/BROKEN CLOUDS ACROSS NORTHWEST IN. OUTSIDE OF THESE AREAS...A MOSTLY SUNNY SKY IS EXPECTED WITH THE MAIN STRATUS/STRATOCU REMAINING WEST AND SOUTH OF THE AREA. HIGHS ARE EXPECTED AROUND FIVE TO SEVEN DEGREES WARMER THAN YESTERDAY. THE CLOUDS...AS WELL AS SOME FOG...BECOME A CONCERN FOR TONIGHT AS RETURN FLOW JUST ABOVE THE INVERSION WILL HELP TO ADVECT WHAT IS LEFT OF THE CLOUDS TO OUR WEST. EVEN IF NONE IS LEFT...THE NAM 925/950MB SURFACES POINT TOWARDS SATURATION...AS DOES THE SPC 4KM WRF COLUMN CONDENSATE PRODUCT...WHICH HAS HANDLED THE LOW CLOUDS THIS MORNING THE BEST OF ANY SHORT TERM MODEL. SO HAVE INCREASED SKY COVER SOME TONIGHT AS WELL AS ADD PATCHY FOG WHERE THE WINDS WILL BE THE LIGHTEST...GENERALLY SOUTH AND SOUTHEAST OF CHICAGO. THANKSGIVING AND FRIDAY...THE POSSIBILITY OF CLOUDS AND AT LEAST THE INFERENCE OF MORE LIMITED MIXING HAS LED TO FORECAST HIGHS ON THE HOLIDAY TO BE INCHED DOWN A COUPLE DEGREES. SEVERAL MODELS HAVE SHOWN THAT TREND AS WELL. MIX DOWN FROM 950 MB /WHICH MAY EVEN BE A LITTLE DEEP/ SUPPORTS TEMPERATURES IN THE MID 50S. THE WINDS WILL STAY UP THU NIGHT KEEPING TEMPERATURES ABOUT TEN DEGREES WARMER THAN TONIGHT. FRIDAY WILL BE BREEZY WITH THE LOW- LEVEL THERMAL RIDGE OF 10C AT 925 MB OVERRIDING THE AREA. WHILE NO LOWER CLOUDS ARE EXPECTED DURING THE DAY...CIRRUS IS PROBABLE ESPECIALLY ACROSS FAR NORTHERN IL AS SHOWN BY SIMULATED WATER VAPOR AND UPPER LEVEL RH FIELDS ON THE NAM. HAVE BLENDED MIXING TO 940 MB FROM THE NAM WITH THE GOING FORECAST AS WELL AS THE BIAS CORRECTED GUIDANCE WHICH HAS DONE WELL DURING THE WARMER DAYS. FOR SOME MORE THOUGHTS ON FRIDAY TEMPERATURES...SEE THE CLIMATE DISCUSSION BELOW. THIS WEEKEND AND EARLY NEXT WEEK...THE MODEL GUIDANCE CONTINUES TO SHOW LARGE DIFFERENCES IN THE LONG RANGE...ESPECIALLY FROM RUN TO RUN OF EACH OF THE MODELS. LOW PRESSURE IS EXPECTED TO MOVE EAST NORTHEAST ACROSS THE GREAT LAKES DURING SATURDAY...DRAGGING A CANADIAN AIR MASS SOUTH SOUTHEAST INTO THE MIDDLE OF THE COUNTRY FLOODING OUR AREA SATURDAY NIGHT. CONVERGENCE ALONG THE FRONT IS STRONG AND THE MOISTURE RETURN AHEAD OF IT IS NARROW BUT FOCUSED DURING SATURDAY. CAN ENVISION WITH SUCH A FEATURE AND ORIENTATION THAT AREAS OF SHOWERS WILL BE STREAMING NORTH NORTHEAST ALONG AND IMMEDIATELY AHEAD OF THE FRONTAL BOUNDARY. MUCH OF FRIDAY NIGHT MAY NOT ACTUALLY SEE MUCH FOR RAIN HERE GIVEN STILL WELL AHEAD OF THE FRONT...AND THE 23.00 EC CONTINUED THAT TREND. SO REALLY BACKED OFF ON POPS PRIOR TO MIDNIGHT IN CHICAGO AND AREAS SOUTH. HAVE HIGHEST POPS DURING THE DAY SATURDAY STILL. THE UPPER TROUGH IS EXPECTED TO PROGRESS SOUTHEAST WITH THE UPPER JET...AND FOR MOST OF THE PAST MODEL RUNS OF THE GFS/EC A CUTOFF IS EXPECTED. THE TREND HAS BEEN FOR THIS TO HAPPEN IN THE OHIO/TN RIVER VALLEY AREA EARLY NEXT WEEK...WITH SOME RETROGRADING/PROGRESSION TO THE NNW. A CONTINUED ACTIVE NORTHERN STREAM JET MAY ALSO PROVIDE ENERGY TO ENHANCE CLOUDS AND SHOWER CHANCES THROUGH THIS PERIOD. HAVE CONTINUED TO PREFER A MODEL BLEND WITH THE GOING FORECAST FOR MOST SENSIBLE WEATHER ELEMENTS...AND IN GENERAL THAT SOLUTION LOOKS FINE. PROFILES BEGIN TO FAVOR A MIX OR JUST MORE SNOW SHOWERS BY SUNDAY...AND THEN AGAIN TUESDAY. THERE ALSO IS SUPPORT IN THE LOW-LEVEL LAPSE RATES/MOISTURE/CONVERGENCE FOR LAKE ENHANCED SHOWERS INTO NORTHWEST IN ON SUNDAY AND SUNDAY EVENING AND HAVE GONE ABOVE BLENDED POPS FOR THAT AREA. AT THIS TIME...IT LOOKS TO BE MORE OF RAIN SHOWER/MIX IN NORTHWEST IN. && .CLIMATE... 238 AM CST WHILE THE GOING FORECAST IS COOLER FOR THANKSGIVING DAY...THE HIGH TEMPERATURE FORECAST OF 55 FOR CHICAGO /ORD/ AND ROCKFORD WOULD PLACE THIS AS THE NINTH WARMEST THANKSGIVING ON RECORD FOR BOTH SITES. THOUGH FRIDAY IS BECOMING INCREASINGLY LIKELY TO SEE 60 REACHED IN THE FORECAST AREA /ESPECIALLY SOUTH OF I-80/...RECORD HIGHS FOR LONG TERM CLIMATE SITES LOOK OUT OF REACH. THOSE RECORDS FOR NOVEMBER 25TH ARE 65 IN 2008 FOR ORD...AND 64 IN 1915 FOR RFD. INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH...LOOKING BACK AT THE TOP FOUR MATCHING LOW- LEVEL ANALOGS FROM THE CIPS ANALOG PAGE COMPARED TO THE 60 HOUR FORECAST FROM THE 23.00 GFS...THE HIGHS AT ORD AVERAGED 59 DEGREES WHICH IS RIGHT AT THE GOING FORECAST. THAT IS 15 DEGREES ABOVE NORMAL. MTF && .AVIATION... //ORD AND MDW CONCERNS...UPDATED 20Z... * NO SHORT TERM CONCERNS. * POTENTIAL FOR RETURN TO MVFR CONDITIONS DURING OVERNIGHT AND EARLY THU MORNING. TRS //DISCUSSION...UPDATED 18Z... AREA OF LOW STRATUS AND BR OVER NE IL HAS BEEN ERODING AWAY WITH CONTINUED SURFACE HEATING...WITH SUNSHINE UNIMPEDED BY ANY HIGHER CLOUDS. AFTERNOON INTO EVENING EXPECTED TO BE SKC ACROSS THE LOCAL TERMINALS WITH LIGHT LOW LEVEL FLOW GRADUALLY BACKING TO WSW AND SW AS THE SURFACE RIDGE CURRENTLY JUST ABOUT OVERHEAD SLIPS OFF TO THE E. A LARGE AREA OF STRATUS OVER MUCH OF WI...IA...MO AND THE S HALF OF IL HAS BEEN GRADUALLY DIMINISHING WITH TIME THIS MORNING AND EARLY AFTERNOON BUT FEEL THAT A PORTION OF IT WILL SURVIVE THROUGH THE REST OF THE DAY GIVEN HOW SOON THE SUN GETS LOW ON THE HORIZON THIS TIME OF YEAR. WITH SW FLOW GRADUALLY INCREASING DURING THE NIGHT AND EARLY THU MORNING EXPECT TO SEE SOME OF THIS STRATUS SPREADING INTO NORTHERN IL AND EVENTUALLY TO THE LOCAL TERMINALS. SOMEWHAT CONFIDENT THIS WILL OCCUR BASED ON NAM LOW LEVEL RH PROGS AS THIS MODEL HAD THE BEST DEPICTION OF THIS LARGE ARC OF STRATUS IN THE SHORT TERM. BASED ON THESE PROGS...EXPECT TO SEE THE STRATUS OVERSPREAD THE LOCAL TERMINALS SW TO NE BETWEEN 09Z AND 11Z WED. TRS //ORD AND MDW CONFIDENCE...UPDATED 20Z... * HIGH CONFIDENCE LIGHT W-SW WINDS GRADUALLY BECOMING SW DURING THE REST OF THE DAY...THEN INCREASING SLIGHTLY THIS EVENING. * MODERATE CONFIDENCE IFR...POSSIBLY LIFR...CIGS RETURNING DURING LATE NIGHT AND PREDAWN THU. * LOW CONFIDENCE IN TIMING OF ARRIVAL OF STRATUS CLOUDS OVERNIGHT WITH 09Z-11Z TIME FRAME +/- A COUPLE HRS BEST ESTIMATE ATTM. TRS //OUTLOOK FOR ORD/MDW FOR 00Z FRIDAY-12Z WEDNESDAY...UPDATED 12Z... THURSDAY NIGHT...VFR. FRIDAY...VFR. BREEZY WITH SOUTH WINDS GUSTING 20-25KTS. SATURDAY...RAIN LIKELY. MVFR LIKELY WITH IFR POSSIBLE. SUNDAY THROUGH TUESDAY...MVFR POSSIBLE WITH SCATTERED SHRA AND POSSIBLY A FEW SHSN. CMS && .MARINE... 244 PM CST ACTIVE WEATHER WILL BE RETURNING TO LAKE MICHIGAN OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL DAYS AS A SERIES OF LOW PRESSURE SYSTEMS CROSS THE REGION. LOW PRESSURE ACROSS NORTHERN ONTARIO THIS AFTERNOON WILL CONTINUE ACROSS JAMES BAY THIS EVENING WHILE HIGH PRESSURE MOVES EASTWARD ACROSS THE LOWER MISSISSIPPI RIVER VALLEY. THE PRESSURE GRADIENT WILL TIGHTEN ACROSS THE NORTHERN PART OF THE LAKE INTO THE EVENING ALLOWING SOUTHWESTERLY WINDS TO INCREASE WITH GUSTS PUSHING 30 KT THIS EVENING. THERE IS AN OUTSIDE CHANCE THERE MAY BE A FEW GALE FORCE GUSTS TO 35 KT FOR A SHORT TIME THIS EVENING FROM THE MANITOU ISLANDS NORTH TOWARDS THE STRAITS OF MACKINAC. WINDS WILL INCREASE MORE MODESTLY ACROSS THE SOUTH HALF OF THE LAKE. WINDS MAY DIMINISH SLIGHTLY EARLY THURSDAY BUT WILL PICK UP AGAIN THURSDAY MORNING AND ESPECIALLY THURSDAY AFTERNOON AND EVENING AS LOW PRESSURE CURRENTLY OVER SOUTHERN ALBERTA TRACKS EASTWARD ACROSS NORTHERN ONTARIO REACHING JAMES BY BY THURSDAY EVENING. EXPECT THAT WINDS TO 30 KT WILL OCCUR ACROSS THE LAKE AND THAT 35 KT GALES MAY OCCUR NORTH THURSDAY EVENING BUT THIS CHANCE FOR THIS WILL BE SOMEWHAT MARGINAL SO WILL MENTION WINDS TO 30 AND POSSIBLE GALE FORCE GUSTS DURING THIS TIME. WEAK HIGH PRESSURE WILL FILL IN BEHIND THE LOW LATER FRIDAY BRINGING A DECREASE IN WIND SPEEDS...ESPECIALLY NORTH...BUT ANOTHER LOW WILL DEVELOP ACROSS THE CENTRAL PLAINS AND MOVE NORTHEASTWARD TOWARD NORTHERN LAKE MICHIGAN FRIDAY NIGHT AND SATURDAY. TIMING THE PASSAGE OF THIS LOW HAS BEEN A BIT TRICKY BUT HAVE DECENT CONFIDENCE IN IT REACHING THE UPPER PENINSULA/NORTHERN LAKE MICHIGAN BY SATURDAY EVENING WITH THE ASSOCIATED COLD FRONT CROSSING THE LAKE AROUND THAT TIME. SHOULD SEE AN INCREASE IN SOUTH/SOUTHWEST WINDS DURING THE DAY SATURDAY AHEAD OF THE FRONT WITH A BIT OF A LULL WITH THE FRONTAL PASSAGE FOLLOWED BY AN INCREASE FROM THE WEST THEN NORTHWEST SATURDAY NIGHT AS THE LOW PASSES AND THE PRESSURE GRADIENT TIGHTENS. HIGH PRESSURE THEN RETURNS SUNDAY NIGHT WITH MUCH LIGHTER WINDS SETTING UP BUT ANOTHER LOW WILL BE MOVING ACROSS THE CANADIAN PRAIRIES LATER MONDAY AND HEADING FOR THE AREA FOR TUESDAY. FORECAST MODELS SHOW GOOD AGREEMENT ON THE PRESENCE OF A LOW BUT VARY WITH MAGNITUDE. WILL HOLD WINDS AT 30 KT FROM LATE TUESDAY AFTERNOON AND TUESDAY NIGHT BUT WILL NEED TO KEEP AN EYE ON THE POTENTIAL FOR GALES. MDB && .LOT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... IL...NONE. IN...NONE. LM...NONE. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS CHICAGO/ROMEOVILLE IL
233 PM CST WED NOV 23 2011 .DISCUSSION... 340 AM CST AFTER A GLOOMY TUESDAY...GENERALLY TRANQUIL WEATHER WILL BE SEEN FOR MUCH OF THE NEXT 60 HOURS TO THE JOY OF HOLIDAY TRAVELERS AND SHOPPERS. THE CHALLENGES IN THE FORECAST FOR THE NEXT THREE DAYS ARE STRATUS/FOG EARLY THIS MORNING AND AGAIN FOR THANKSGIVING MORNING AND ITS ASSOCIATED IMPACTS ON TEMPERATURES. THEN THE FOCUS TURNS TO THIS WEEKEND INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK WITH COOLER AIR AND SNOW CHANCES. SYNOPSIS...THE SYSTEM THAT BROUGHT THE RAIN YESTERDAY IS NOW EXITING THE PICTURE ACROSS THE NORTHEAST. THE BACK END OF THE PRIMARY CLOUD SHIELD WILL MOVE OUT OF THE CWA BY MID-MORNING. LINGERING LOW-LEVEL MOISTURE UNDER A SUBSIDENCE INVERSION AND INCOMING SURFACE RIDGING HAS ALLOWED FOR EXPANSIVE STRATUS FROM MN/WESTERN WI SOUTH THROUGH THE LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY. IN ADDITION...SOME STRATUS/FOG IS OOZING ITS WAY SOUTH ALONG THE WEST SHORE OF LAKE MI. SIMILAR STRATUS MAY TRY TO DEVELOP UNTIL MID- MORNING AS THE PRIMARY SYNOPTIC CLOUD SHIELD EXITS ACROSS NORTHWEST IN. LIGHT FOG IS SEEN IN THE CLEAR AREAS...PRESUMABLY NOT HAVING BECOME MUCH WORSE DUE TO A LIGHT WIND COMPONENT. TODAY AND TONIGHT...THE STRATUS CREEPING INTO THE NORTHERN CHICAGO METRO IS NOT HANDLED WELL BY MOST OF THE MODELS...WHICH CAN BE EXPECTED WITH SUCH A SMALL SCALE FEATURE. THE RUC AND NAM PROFILES FOR ORD...WHILE NOT FULLY SATURATING IN THE LOW LAYERS...SHOW THE INVERSION VERY SLOW TO LIFT THIS MORNING. HAVE KEPT THOSE CLOUDS THROUGH MUCH OF THE MORNING WITHIN THE FORECAST...AS WELL AS ACCOUNTED FOR SOME SCATTERED/BROKEN CLOUDS ACROSS NORTHWEST IN. OUTSIDE OF THESE AREAS...A MOSTLY SUNNY SKY IS EXPECTED WITH THE MAIN STRATUS/STRATOCU REMAINING WEST AND SOUTH OF THE AREA. HIGHS ARE EXPECTED AROUND FIVE TO SEVEN DEGREES WARMER THAN YESTERDAY. THE CLOUDS...AS WELL AS SOME FOG...BECOME A CONCERN FOR TONIGHT AS RETURN FLOW JUST ABOVE THE INVERSION WILL HELP TO ADVECT WHAT IS LEFT OF THE CLOUDS TO OUR WEST. EVEN IF NONE IS LEFT...THE NAM 925/950MB SURFACES POINT TOWARDS SATURATION...AS DOES THE SPC 4KM WRF COLUMN CONDENSATE PRODUCT...WHICH HAS HANDLED THE LOW CLOUDS THIS MORNING THE BEST OF ANY SHORT TERM MODEL. SO HAVE INCREASED SKY COVER SOME TONIGHT AS WELL AS ADD PATCHY FOG WHERE THE WINDS WILL BE THE LIGHTEST...GENERALLY SOUTH AND SOUTHEAST OF CHICAGO. THANKSGIVING AND FRIDAY...THE POSSIBILITY OF CLOUDS AND AT LEAST THE INFERENCE OF MORE LIMITED MIXING HAS LED TO FORECAST HIGHS ON THE HOLIDAY TO BE INCHED DOWN A COUPLE DEGREES. SEVERAL MODELS HAVE SHOWN THAT TREND AS WELL. MIX DOWN FROM 950 MB /WHICH MAY EVEN BE A LITTLE DEEP/ SUPPORTS TEMPERATURES IN THE MID 50S. THE WINDS WILL STAY UP THU NIGHT KEEPING TEMPERATURES ABOUT TEN DEGREES WARMER THAN TONIGHT. FRIDAY WILL BE BREEZY WITH THE LOW- LEVEL THERMAL RIDGE OF 10C AT 925 MB OVERRIDING THE AREA. WHILE NO LOWER CLOUDS ARE EXPECTED DURING THE DAY...CIRRUS IS PROBABLE ESPECIALLY ACROSS FAR NORTHERN IL AS SHOWN BY SIMULATED WATER VAPOR AND UPPER LEVEL RH FIELDS ON THE NAM. HAVE BLENDED MIXING TO 940 MB FROM THE NAM WITH THE GOING FORECAST AS WELL AS THE BIAS CORRECTED GUIDANCE WHICH HAS DONE WELL DURING THE WARMER DAYS. FOR SOME MORE THOUGHTS ON FRIDAY TEMPERATURES...SEE THE CLIMATE DISCUSSION BELOW. THIS WEEKEND AND EARLY NEXT WEEK...THE MODEL GUIDANCE CONTINUES TO SHOW LARGE DIFFERENCES IN THE LONG RANGE...ESPECIALLY FROM RUN TO RUN OF EACH OF THE MODELS. LOW PRESSURE IS EXPECTED TO MOVE EAST NORTHEAST ACROSS THE GREAT LAKES DURING SATURDAY...DRAGGING A CANADIAN AIR MASS SOUTH SOUTHEAST INTO THE MIDDLE OF THE COUNTRY FLOODING OUR AREA SATURDAY NIGHT. CONVERGENCE ALONG THE FRONT IS STRONG AND THE MOISTURE RETURN AHEAD OF IT IS NARROW BUT FOCUSED DURING SATURDAY. CAN ENVISION WITH SUCH A FEATURE AND ORIENTATION THAT AREAS OF SHOWERS WILL BE STREAMING NORTH NORTHEAST ALONG AND IMMEDIATELY AHEAD OF THE FRONTAL BOUNDARY. MUCH OF FRIDAY NIGHT MAY NOT ACTUALLY SEE MUCH FOR RAIN HERE GIVEN STILL WELL AHEAD OF THE FRONT...AND THE 23.00 EC CONTINUED THAT TREND. SO REALLY BACKED OFF ON POPS PRIOR TO MIDNIGHT IN CHICAGO AND AREAS SOUTH. HAVE HIGHEST POPS DURING THE DAY SATURDAY STILL. THE UPPER TROUGH IS EXPECTED TO PROGRESS SOUTHEAST WITH THE UPPER JET...AND FOR MOST OF THE PAST MODEL RUNS OF THE GFS/EC A CUTOFF IS EXPECTED. THE TREND HAS BEEN FOR THIS TO HAPPEN IN THE OHIO/TN RIVER VALLEY AREA EARLY NEXT WEEK...WITH SOME RETROGRADING/PROGRESSION TO THE NNW. A CONTINUED ACTIVE NORTHERN STREAM JET MAY ALSO PROVIDE ENERGY TO ENHANCE CLOUDS AND SHOWER CHANCES THROUGH THIS PERIOD. HAVE CONTINUED TO PREFER A MODEL BLEND WITH THE GOING FORECAST FOR MOST SENSIBLE WEATHER ELEMENTS...AND IN GENERAL THAT SOLUTION LOOKS FINE. PROFILES BEGIN TO FAVOR A MIX OR JUST MORE SNOW SHOWERS BY SUNDAY...AND THEN AGAIN TUESDAY. THERE ALSO IS SUPPORT IN THE LOW-LEVEL LAPSE RATES/MOISTURE/CONVERGENCE FOR LAKE ENHANCED SHOWERS INTO NORTHWEST IN ON SUNDAY AND SUNDAY EVENING AND HAVE GONE ABOVE BLENDED POPS FOR THAT AREA. AT THIS TIME...IT LOOKS TO BE MORE OF RAIN SHOWER/MIX IN NORTHWEST IN. && .CLIMATE... 238 AM CST WHILE THE GOING FORECAST IS COOLER FOR THANKSGIVING DAY...THE HIGH TEMPERATURE FORECAST OF 55 FOR CHICAGO /ORD/ AND ROCKFORD WOULD PLACE THIS AS THE NINTH WARMEST THANKSGIVING ON RECORD FOR BOTH SITES. THOUGH FRIDAY IS BECOMING INCREASINGLY LIKELY TO SEE 60 REACHED IN THE FORECAST AREA /ESPECIALLY SOUTH OF I-80/...RECORD HIGHS FOR LONG TERM CLIMATE SITES LOOK OUT OF REACH. THOSE RECORDS FOR NOVEMBER 25TH ARE 65 IN 2008 FOR ORD...AND 64 IN 1915 FOR RFD. INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH...LOOKING BACK AT THE TOP FOUR MATCHING LOW- LEVEL ANALOGS FROM THE CIPS ANALOG PAGE COMPARED TO THE 60 HOUR FORECAST FROM THE 23.00 GFS...THE HIGHS AT ORD AVERAGED 59 DEGREES WHICH IS RIGHT AT THE GOING FORECAST. THAT IS 15 DEGREES ABOVE NORMAL. MTF && .AVIATION... //ORD AND MDW CONCERNS...UPDATED 20Z... * NO SHORT TERM CONCERNS. * POTENTIAL FOR RETURN TO MVFR CONDITIONS DURING OVERNIGHT AND EARLY THU MORNING. TRS //DISCUSSION...UPDATED 18Z... AREA OF LOW STRATUS AND BR OVER NE IL HAS BEEN ERODING AWAY WITH CONTINUED SURFACE HEATING...WITH SUNSHINE UNIMPEDED BY ANY HIGHER CLOUDS. AFTERNOON INTO EVENING EXPECTED TO BE SKC ACROSS THE LOCAL TERMINALS WITH LIGHT LOW LEVEL FLOW GRADUALLY BACKING TO WSW AND SW AS THE SURFACE RIDGE CURRENTLY JUST ABOUT OVERHEAD SLIPS OFF TO THE E. A LARGE AREA OF STRATUS OVER MUCH OF WI...IA...MO AND THE S HALF OF IL HAS BEEN GRADUALLY DIMINISHING WITH TIME THIS MORNING AND EARLY AFTERNOON BUT FEEL THAT A PORTION OF IT WILL SURVIVE THROUGH THE REST OF THE DAY GIVEN HOW SOON THE SUN GETS LOW ON THE HORIZON THIS TIME OF YEAR. WITH SW FLOW GRADUALLY INCREASING DURING THE NIGHT AND EARLY THU MORNING EXPECT TO SEE SOME OF THIS STRATUS SPREADING INTO NORTHERN IL AND EVENTUALLY TO THE LOCAL TERMINALS. SOMEWHAT CONFIDENT THIS WILL OCCUR BASED ON NAM LOW LEVEL RH PROGS AS THIS MODEL HAD THE BEST DEPICTION OF THIS LARGE ARC OF STRATUS IN THE SHORT TERM. BASED ON THESE PROGS...EXPECT TO SEE THE STRATUS OVERSPREAD THE LOCAL TERMINALS SW TO NE BETWEEN 09Z AND 11Z WED. TRS //ORD AND MDW CONFIDENCE...UPDATED 20Z... * HIGH CONFIDENCE LIGHT W-SW WINDS GRADUALLY BECOMING SW DURING THE REST OF THE DAY...THEN INCREASING SLIGHTLY THIS EVENING. * MODERATE CONFIDENCE IFR...POSSIBLY LIFR...CIGS RETURNING DURING LATE NIGHT AND PREDAWN THU. * LOW CONFIDENCE IN TIMING OF ARRIVAL OF STRATUS CLOUDS OVERNIGHT WITH 09Z-11Z TIME FRAME +/- A COUPLE HRS BEST ESTIMATE ATTM. TRS //OUTLOOK FOR ORD/MDW FOR 00Z FRIDAY-12Z WEDNESDAY...UPDATED 12Z... THURSDAY NIGHT...VFR. FRIDAY...VFR. BREEZY WITH SOUTH WINDS GUSTING 20-25KTS. SATURDAY...RAIN LIKELY. MVFR LIKELY WITH IFR POSSIBLE. SUNDAY THROUGH TUESDAY...MVFR POSSIBLE WITH SCATTERED SHRA AND POSSIBLY A FEW SHSN. CMS && .MARINE... 300 AM CST WITH LOW PRESSURE QUICKLY SHIFTING EAST OF THE LAKE THIS MORNING AND HIGH PRESSURE SLOWLY BUILDING EAST THROUGH THE UPPER MIDWEST...WINDS HAVE BEEN DIMINISHING ACROSS THE LAKE. WINDS WILL CONTINUE TO DIMINISH AS THIS HIGH SHIFTS EAST TODAY WITH A BRIEF PERIOD OF LIGHTER FLOW. ALTHOUGH WITH THIS HIGH CONTINUING TO THE EAST TONIGHT...A FAIRLY ACTIVE SURFACE PATTERN WILL BE IN PLACE TO THE NORTHWEST OF THE GREAT LAKES. THIS WILL PROVIDE A STRENGTHENING PRESSURE GRADIENT OVER THE LAKE WITH WINDS INCREASING ONCE AGAIN. THIS INCREASE IN WINDS WILL INITIALLY OCCUR OVER THE NORTHERN HALF OF THE LAKE BUT WITH WINDS EVENTUALLY INCREASING OVER THE SOUTHERN HALF LAKE TONIGHT INTO THURSDAY. WITH THIS HIGH REMAINING TO THE SOUTHEAST OF THE LAKE AND THIS ACTIVE SURFACE PATTERN TO THE NORTHWEST...A PERIOD OF STRONG SOUTHERLY FLOW WILL BE IN PLACE THROUGH THE END OF THE WORK WEEK. ALTHOUGH THIS WEATHER PATTERN WILL SUPPORT STRENGTHENING WINDS INTO FRIDAY...A WARMER AIR MASS WILL MOVE ACROSS THE LAKE. THIS COULD PROVIDE MORE STABLE CONDITIONS AND THUS LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF STRONGER WINDS ALOFT TO REACH THE SURFACE OF THE LAKE. HAVE KEPT WINDS JUST BELOW GALES THURSDAY NIGHT INTO FRIDAY DUE TO THIS WARMER AIR...BUT WILL HAVE TO CONTINUE TO MONITOR LATER GUIDANCE TO ASSESS THE POSSIBILITY OF THESE STRONGER WINDS ALOFT TO REACH THE SURFACE OF THE LAKE. RODRIGUEZ && .LOT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... IL...NONE. IN...NONE. LM...NONE. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS CHICAGO/ROMEOVILLE IL
1157 AM CST WED NOV 23 2011 .DISCUSSION... 340 AM CST AFTER A GLOOMY TUESDAY...GENERALLY TRANQUIL WEATHER WILL BE SEEN FOR MUCH OF THE NEXT 60 HOURS TO THE JOY OF HOLIDAY TRAVELERS AND SHOPPERS. THE CHALLENGES IN THE FORECAST FOR THE NEXT THREE DAYS ARE STRATUS/FOG EARLY THIS MORNING AND AGAIN FOR THANKSGIVING MORNING AND ITS ASSOCIATED IMPACTS ON TEMPERATURES. THEN THE FOCUS TURNS TO THIS WEEKEND INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK WITH COOLER AIR AND SNOW CHANCES. SYNOPSIS...THE SYSTEM THAT BROUGHT THE RAIN YESTERDAY IS NOW EXITING THE PICTURE ACROSS THE NORTHEAST. THE BACK END OF THE PRIMARY CLOUD SHIELD WILL MOVE OUT OF THE CWA BY MID-MORNING. LINGERING LOW-LEVEL MOISTURE UNDER A SUBSIDENCE INVERSION AND INCOMING SURFACE RIDGING HAS ALLOWED FOR EXPANSIVE STRATUS FROM MN/WESTERN WI SOUTH THROUGH THE LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY. IN ADDITION...SOME STRATUS/FOG IS OOZING ITS WAY SOUTH ALONG THE WEST SHORE OF LAKE MI. SIMILAR STRATUS MAY TRY TO DEVELOP UNTIL MID- MORNING AS THE PRIMARY SYNOPTIC CLOUD SHIELD EXITS ACROSS NORTHWEST IN. LIGHT FOG IS SEEN IN THE CLEAR AREAS...PRESUMABLY NOT HAVING BECOME MUCH WORSE DUE TO A LIGHT WIND COMPONENT. TODAY AND TONIGHT...THE STRATUS CREEPING INTO THE NORTHERN CHICAGO METRO IS NOT HANDLED WELL BY MOST OF THE MODELS...WHICH CAN BE EXPECTED WITH SUCH A SMALL SCALE FEATURE. THE RUC AND NAM PROFILES FOR ORD...WHILE NOT FULLY SATURATING IN THE LOW LAYERS...SHOW THE INVERSION VERY SLOW TO LIFT THIS MORNING. HAVE KEPT THOSE CLOUDS THROUGH MUCH OF THE MORNING WITHIN THE FORECAST...AS WELL AS ACCOUNTED FOR SOME SCATTERED/BROKEN CLOUDS ACROSS NORTHWEST IN. OUTSIDE OF THESE AREAS...A MOSTLY SUNNY SKY IS EXPECTED WITH THE MAIN STRATUS/STRATOCU REMAINING WEST AND SOUTH OF THE AREA. HIGHS ARE EXPECTED AROUND FIVE TO SEVEN DEGREES WARMER THAN YESTERDAY. THE CLOUDS...AS WELL AS SOME FOG...BECOME A CONCERN FOR TONIGHT AS RETURN FLOW JUST ABOVE THE INVERSION WILL HELP TO ADVECT WHAT IS LEFT OF THE CLOUDS TO OUR WEST. EVEN IF NONE IS LEFT...THE NAM 925/950MB SURFACES POINT TOWARDS SATURATION...AS DOES THE SPC 4KM WRF COLUMN CONDENSATE PRODUCT...WHICH HAS HANDLED THE LOW CLOUDS THIS MORNING THE BEST OF ANY SHORT TERM MODEL. SO HAVE INCREASED SKY COVER SOME TONIGHT AS WELL AS ADD PATCHY FOG WHERE THE WINDS WILL BE THE LIGHTEST...GENERALLY SOUTH AND SOUTHEAST OF CHICAGO. THANKSGIVING AND FRIDAY...THE POSSIBILITY OF CLOUDS AND AT LEAST THE INFERENCE OF MORE LIMITED MIXING HAS LED TO FORECAST HIGHS ON THE HOLIDAY TO BE INCHED DOWN A COUPLE DEGREES. SEVERAL MODELS HAVE SHOWN THAT TREND AS WELL. MIX DOWN FROM 950 MB /WHICH MAY EVEN BE A LITTLE DEEP/ SUPPORTS TEMPERATURES IN THE MID 50S. THE WINDS WILL STAY UP THU NIGHT KEEPING TEMPERATURES ABOUT TEN DEGREES WARMER THAN TONIGHT. FRIDAY WILL BE BREEZY WITH THE LOW- LEVEL THERMAL RIDGE OF 10C AT 925 MB OVERRIDING THE AREA. WHILE NO LOWER CLOUDS ARE EXPECTED DURING THE DAY...CIRRUS IS PROBABLE ESPECIALLY ACROSS FAR NORTHERN IL AS SHOWN BY SIMULATED WATER VAPOR AND UPPER LEVEL RH FIELDS ON THE NAM. HAVE BLENDED MIXING TO 940 MB FROM THE NAM WITH THE GOING FORECAST AS WELL AS THE BIAS CORRECTED GUIDANCE WHICH HAS DONE WELL DURING THE WARMER DAYS. FOR SOME MORE THOUGHTS ON FRIDAY TEMPERATURES...SEE THE CLIMATE DISCUSSION BELOW. THIS WEEKEND AND EARLY NEXT WEEK...THE MODEL GUIDANCE CONTINUES TO SHOW LARGE DIFFERENCES IN THE LONG RANGE...ESPECIALLY FROM RUN TO RUN OF EACH OF THE MODELS. LOW PRESSURE IS EXPECTED TO MOVE EAST NORTHEAST ACROSS THE GREAT LAKES DURING SATURDAY...DRAGGING A CANADIAN AIR MASS SOUTH SOUTHEAST INTO THE MIDDLE OF THE COUNTRY FLOODING OUR AREA SATURDAY NIGHT. CONVERGENCE ALONG THE FRONT IS STRONG AND THE MOISTURE RETURN AHEAD OF IT IS NARROW BUT FOCUSED DURING SATURDAY. CAN ENVISION WITH SUCH A FEATURE AND ORIENTATION THAT AREAS OF SHOWERS WILL BE STREAMING NORTH NORTHEAST ALONG AND IMMEDIATELY AHEAD OF THE FRONTAL BOUNDARY. MUCH OF FRIDAY NIGHT MAY NOT ACTUALLY SEE MUCH FOR RAIN HERE GIVEN STILL WELL AHEAD OF THE FRONT...AND THE 23.00 EC CONTINUED THAT TREND. SO REALLY BACKED OFF ON POPS PRIOR TO MIDNIGHT IN CHICAGO AND AREAS SOUTH. HAVE HIGHEST POPS DURING THE DAY SATURDAY STILL. THE UPPER TROUGH IS EXPECTED TO PROGRESS SOUTHEAST WITH THE UPPER JET...AND FOR MOST OF THE PAST MODEL RUNS OF THE GFS/EC A CUTOFF IS EXPECTED. THE TREND HAS BEEN FOR THIS TO HAPPEN IN THE OHIO/TN RIVER VALLEY AREA EARLY NEXT WEEK...WITH SOME RETROGRADING/PROGRESSION TO THE NNW. A CONTINUED ACTIVE NORTHERN STREAM JET MAY ALSO PROVIDE ENERGY TO ENHANCE CLOUDS AND SHOWER CHANCES THROUGH THIS PERIOD. HAVE CONTINUED TO PREFER A MODEL BLEND WITH THE GOING FORECAST FOR MOST SENSIBLE WEATHER ELEMENTS...AND IN GENERAL THAT SOLUTION LOOKS FINE. PROFILES BEGIN TO FAVOR A MIX OR JUST MORE SNOW SHOWERS BY SUNDAY...AND THEN AGAIN TUESDAY. THERE ALSO IS SUPPORT IN THE LOW-LEVEL LAPSE RATES/MOISTURE/CONVERGENCE FOR LAKE ENHANCED SHOWERS INTO NORTHWEST IN ON SUNDAY AND SUNDAY EVENING AND HAVE GONE ABOVE BLENDED POPS FOR THAT AREA. AT THIS TIME...IT LOOKS TO BE MORE OF RAIN SHOWER/MIX IN NORTHWEST IN. && .CLIMATE... 238 AM CST WHILE THE GOING FORECAST IS COOLER FOR THANKSGIVING DAY...THE HIGH TEMPERATURE FORECAST OF 55 FOR CHICAGO /ORD/ AND ROCKFORD WOULD PLACE THIS AS THE NINTH WARMEST THANKSGIVING ON RECORD FOR BOTH SITES. THOUGH FRIDAY IS BECOMING INCREASINGLY LIKELY TO SEE 60 REACHED IN THE FORECAST AREA /ESPECIALLY SOUTH OF I-80/...RECORD HIGHS FOR LONG TERM CLIMATE SITES LOOK OUT OF REACH. THOSE RECORDS FOR NOVEMBER 25TH ARE 65 IN 2008 FOR ORD...AND 64 IN 1915 FOR RFD. INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH...LOOKING BACK AT THE TOP FOUR MATCHING LOW- LEVEL ANALOGS FROM THE CIPS ANALOG PAGE COMPARED TO THE 60 HOUR FORECAST FROM THE 23.00 GFS...THE HIGHS AT ORD AVERAGED 59 DEGREES WHICH IS RIGHT AT THE GOING FORECAST. THAT IS 15 DEGREES ABOVE NORMAL. MTF && .AVIATION... //ORD AND MDW CONCERNS...UPDATED 18Z... * POTENTIAL FOR RETURN TO MVFR CONDITIONS DURING OVERNIGHT AND EARLY THU MORNING. TRS //DISCUSSION...UPDATED 18Z... AREA OF LOW STRATUS AND BR OVER NE IL HAS BEEN ERODING AWAY WITH CONTINUED SURFACE HEATING WITH SUNSHINE UNIMPEDED BY ANY HIGHER CLOUDS. AFTERNOON INTO EVENING EXPECTED TO BY SKC ACROSS THE LOCAL TERMINALS WITH LIGHT LOW LEVEL FLOW GRADUALLY BACKING TO WSW AND SW AS THE SURFACE RIDGE CURRENTLY JUST ABOUT OVERHEAD SLIPS OFF TO THE E. A LARGE AREA OF STRATUS OVER MUCH OF WI...IA...MO AND THE S HALF OF IL HAS BEEN GRADUALLY DIMINISHING WITH TIME THIS MORNING BUT FEE THAT IT A PORTION OF IT WILL SURVIVE THROUGH THE REST OF THE DAY GIVEN HOW SOON THE SUN GETS LOW ON THE HORIZON. WITH SW FLOW GRADUALLY INCREASING DURING THE NIGHT AND EARLY THU MORNING EXPECT TO SEE SOME OF THIS STRATUS SPREADING INTO NORTHERN IL AND EVENTUALLY TO THE LOCAL TERMINALS. SOMEWHAT CONFIDENT THIS WILL OCCUR BASED ON NAM LOW LEVEL RH PROGS AS THIS MODEL HAD THE BEST DEPICTION OF THIS LARGE ARC OF STRATUS IN SHORT TERM. BASED ON THESE PROGS EXPECT TO SEE THE STRATUS OVERSPREAD THE LOCAL TERMINALS SW TO NE BETWEEN 09Z AND 11Z WED. TRS //ORD AND MDW CONFIDENCE...UPDATED 16Z... * HIGH CONFIDENCE LIGHT NW-W WINDS GRADUALLY BECOMING W-SW DURING THE REST OF THE DAY...THEN INCREASING OUT OF THE SW AFTER SUNRISE WED. * MODERATE CONFIDENCE IFR...POSSIBLY LIFR...CIGS RETURNING DURING LATE NIGHT AND PREDAWN HOURS. * LOW CONFIDENCE IN TIMING OF ARRIVAL OF STRATUS CLOUDS OVERNIGHT WITH 09Z-11Z TIME FRAME +/- A COUPLE HRS BEST ESTIMATE ATTM. TRS //OUTLOOK FOR ORD/MDW FOR 00Z FRIDAY-12Z WEDNESDAY...UPDATED 12Z... THURSDAY NIGHT...VFR. FRIDAY...VFR. BREEZY WITH SOUTH WINDS GUSTING 20-25KTS. SATURDAY...RAIN LIKELY. MVFR LIKELY WITH IFR POSSIBLE. SUNDAY THROUGH TUESDAY...MVFR POSSIBLE WITH SCATTERED SHRA AND POSSIBLY A FEW SHSN. CMS && .MARINE... 300 AM CST WITH LOW PRESSURE QUICKLY SHIFTING EAST OF THE LAKE THIS MORNING AND HIGH PRESSURE SLOWLY BUILDING EAST THROUGH THE UPPER MIDWEST...WINDS HAVE BEEN DIMINISHING ACROSS THE LAKE. WINDS WILL CONTINUE TO DIMINISH AS THIS HIGH SHIFTS EAST TODAY WITH A BRIEF PERIOD OF LIGHTER FLOW. ALTHOUGH WITH THIS HIGH CONTINUING TO THE EAST TONIGHT...A FAIRLY ACTIVE SURFACE PATTERN WILL BE IN PLACE TO THE NORTHWEST OF THE GREAT LAKES. THIS WILL PROVIDE A STRENGTHENING PRESSURE GRADIENT OVER THE LAKE WITH WINDS INCREASING ONCE AGAIN. THIS INCREASE IN WINDS WILL INITIALLY OCCUR OVER THE NORTHERN HALF OF THE LAKE BUT WITH WINDS EVENTUALLY INCREASING OVER THE SOUTHERN HALF LAKE TONIGHT INTO THURSDAY. WITH THIS HIGH REMAINING TO THE SOUTHEAST OF THE LAKE AND THIS ACTIVE SURFACE PATTERN TO THE NORTHWEST...A PERIOD OF STRONG SOUTHERLY FLOW WILL BE IN PLACE THROUGH THE END OF THE WORK WEEK. ALTHOUGH THIS WEATHER PATTERN WILL SUPPORT STRENGTHENING WINDS INTO FRIDAY...A WARMER AIR MASS WILL MOVE ACROSS THE LAKE. THIS COULD PROVIDE MORE STABLE CONDITIONS AND THUS LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF STRONGER WINDS ALOFT TO REACH THE SURFACE OF THE LAKE. HAVE KEPT WINDS JUST BELOW GALES THURSDAY NIGHT INTO FRIDAY DUE TO THIS WARMER AIR...BUT WILL HAVE TO CONTINUE TO MONITOR LATER GUIDANCE TO ASSESS THE POSSIBILITY OF THESE STRONGER WINDS ALOFT TO REACH THE SURFACE OF THE LAKE. RODRIGUEZ && .LOT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... IL...NONE. IN...NONE. LM...NONE. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS LINCOLN IL
1155 AM CST WED NOV 23 2011 .DISCUSSION... ISSUED 950 AM CST WED NOV 23 2011 WILL UPDATE THE FORECAST LATE THIS MORNING AS THE FOG LIFTS INTO MIDDAY WITH SKIES BECOMING MOSTLY SUNNY THIS AFTERNOON. OTHERWISE REST OF FORECAST LOOKS ON TRACK WITH HIGHS IN THE LOWER 50S AND LIGHTER W/NW WINDS LESS THAN 10 MPH...TURNING SW DURING THE AFTERNOON. LATEST SURFACE MAP SHOWS 1027 MB HIGH PRESSURE SPRAWLED FROM NORTHERN MEXICO AND TEXAS AND RIDGING INTO WESTERN IL. MEANWHILE ELONGATED 1001 MB LOW PRESSURE WAS ALONG THE NJ AND SOUTHERN NEW ENGLAND COAST. UPPER LEVEL RIDGE OVER THE HIGH PLAINS WITH 500 MB HEIGHTS RISING OVER IL TO 567 DM WHILE SHARP UPPER LEVEL TROF WAS OVER THE ATLANTIC STATES. BROKEN TO OVERCAST STRATUS CLOUDS REMAIN OVER MUCH OF CENTRAL AND SE IL THOUGH LARGE BREAKS FROM LINCOLN NORTH AND AROUND DANVILLE. PILOT REPORT OVER CHAMPAIGN SHOULD CLOUD DESK FAIRLY SHALLOW WITH BASE 1K FT AND TOP 1.8K FT SO 800 FEET THICK STRATUS DECK. STILL SOME LINGERING FOG OVER PARTS OF CENTRAL IL MAINLY NORTH OF I-70 WITH VSBYS 1-3 MILES AND A FEW SPOTS LIKE RANTOUL... GALESBURG AND MACOMB HAVING DENSE FOG. STRATUS AND FOG IS FAIRLY SHALLOW BUT ALSO HAVE LOW SUN ANGLE FOR LATE NOVEMBER. EXPECT STRATUS CLOUDS AND FOG TO DISSIPATE INTO MIDDAY AS SKIES BECOME MOSTLY SUNNY DURING THIS AFTERNOON. 1027 MB HIGH PRESSURE TO BE CENTERED OVER THE MID MS VALLEY OF WESTERN KY/TN BY 00Z/6 PM WHILE 500 MB HEIGHTS RISE TO NEAR 570 DM OVER CENTRAL IL EARLY THIS EVENING. THIS SHOULD HELP TO INCREASE AMOUNT OF SUNSHINE DURING THE AFTERNOON AND BRING HIGHS IN THE LOWER 50S. THIS IS CLOSE TO NORMAL HIGHS IN THE UPPER 40S CENTRAL IL AND LOWER 50S IN SE IL FOR THIS DATE. NEARBY SURFACE HIGH PRESSURE WILL ALSO KEEP LIGHTER WINDS TODAY WITH W/NW WINDS LESS THAN 10 MPH SHIFTING SW DURING THE AFTERNOON. HUETTL && .AVIATION... ISSUED 1155 AM CST WED NOV 23 2011 STRATUS CLOUD DECKS AROUND 1K FT ALONG I-72 THAT WAS TRAPPED IN AN INVERSION FROM NEARBY SURFACE HIGH PRESSURE WILL SCATTERED OUT DURING EARLY AFTERNOON...WHILE LINGERING FOG GIVING MVFR VISIBILITIES WILL LIFT TO VFR VSBYS DURING NEXT HOUR OR TWO. STRATUS CLOUDS HAVE ALREADY SCATTERED OUT AT PIA AND BMI LATE THIS MORNING. VFR CONDITIONS THEN EXPECTED FROM MID AFTERNOON THROUGH THURSDAY...THOUGH LIGHT FOG POSSIBLE WITH MVFR VSBYS OF 4-5 MILES FROM 08Z-14Z...POSSIBLY TIL 15Z/9 AM IN EASTERN IL AT CMI. SCATTERED THIN CIRRUS CLOUDS TO ARRIVE LATER TONIGHT AND FRIDAY FROM THE WEST. WESTERLY WINDS AROUND 5 KTS TO TURN SW DURING THE AFTERNOON AND SSW TONIGHT. EXPECT SSW WINDS TO INCREASE BETWEEN 10-15 KTS AFTER 14Z/8 AM THU AND BE STRONGEST NEAR 15 KTS AT BMI. 1027 MB HIGH PRESSURE ELONGATED FROM TX TO WESTERN IL TO SETTLE OVER THE MID MS VALLEY BY SUNSET AND BE OVER THE SOUTHEAST STATES FRIDAY. MEANWHILE UPPER LEVEL RIDGE OVER THE HIGH PLAINS WILL DRIFT EAST INTO IL BY SUNSET THU. INCREASING PRESSURE GRADIENT DURING THURSDAY WILL CAUSE THE BREEZY SSW WINDS TO DEVELOP. HUETTL && .PREV DISCUSSION... ISSUED 245 AM CST WED NOV 23 2011 LAST OF THE SHOWERS WITH THE RECENT SYSTEM MOVED OUT OF THE NORTHEAST CWA A COUPLE HOURS AGO. LOW STRATUS DECK CONTINUES OVER MUCH OF THE AREA...BUT A LARGE CLEAR AREA HAS BEEN MOVING SOUTHEAST...AND IS CREEPING INTO THE FAR NORTHWEST. THE PRIMARY CONCERN IN THE SHORT TERM IS WITH THE TIMING OF THIS CLEARING AREA. IN THE LONGER TERM...THE COLD FRONT PASSAGE THIS WEEKEND...AND THE POTENTIAL FOR LINGERING PRECIPITATION EARLY NEXT WEEK...IS THE MAIN FOCUS. SHORT TERM...TODAY THROUGH FRIDAY... CURRENT EXTENT OF STRATUS DECK SEEMS TO LINE UP REASONABLY WELL WITH THE RUC 950 MB HUMIDITY AND CONDENSATION PRESSURE DEFICIT ANALYSES. THIS WOULD INDICATE ANY CLEARING ACROSS THE FAR WEST WOULD BE SOMEWHAT TEMPORARY EARLY THIS MORNING...WITH THE CORE OF THE STEADIER CLEARING TREND OVERSPREADING THE CENTRAL AND NORTHEAST CWA. WILL KEEP THE WESTERN CWA FAIRLY CLOUDY UNTIL ABOUT MID AFTERNOON...WHERE LOW LEVEL INVERSION DOES NOT REALLY BREAK UNTIL AFTER MIDDAY...AND THUS HIGH TEMPERATURES IN THIS AREA WILL LIKELY STRUGGLE TO REACH 50 DEGREES TODAY. HIGH PRESSURE AXIS...CURRENTLY EXTENDING FROM TEXAS NORTHEAST TO NEAR MINNEAPOLIS...WILL SHIFT EASTWARD THROUGH TONIGHT AND BE JUST EAST OF OUR AREA THURSDAY MORNING. ONCE THE CURRENT CLOUDS FINALLY LEAVE...MOSTLY CLEAR SKIES SHOULD PREVAIL THROUGH FRIDAY. WENT A FEW DEGREES ABOVE MOS GUIDANCE FOR BOTH THANKSGIVING DAY AND FRIDAY. FRIDAY SHOULD BE THE WARMEST DAY...AS GUSTY SOUTHWEST WINDS AND PLENTY OF MIXING ALLOW TEMPERATURES TO RISE WELL INTO THE 60S OVER THE ENTIRE AREA. LONG TERM...SATURDAY THROUGH TUESDAY... TIMING OF INCOMING COLD FRONT ON SATURDAY CONTINUES TO SLOW A BIT. HAVE LIMITED POPS TO THE WESTERN CWA AFTER MIDNIGHT FRIDAY NIGHT...BUT CONTINUED WITH LIKELIES EVERYWHERE ON SATURDAY. LATEST INDICATIONS GENERALLY HAVE THE FRONT ITSELF EAST OF THE CWA BY LATE SATURDAY EVENING. MEDIUM RANGE MODELS STILL STRUGGLING SOME WITH THE DEEPENING OF THE UPPER TROUGH LATER THIS WEEKEND. THE GFS AND ECMWF ARE FAIRLY SIMILAR WITH CUTTING OFF A LOW IN THE TENNESSEE VALLEY SUNDAY NIGHT...WHILE THE GEM FEATURES A MUCH MORE PROGRESSIVE FLOW AND CUTS OFF A LOW OVER SOUTHERN TEXAS. THE CONSISTENCY AMONG THE MODELS THE LAST FEW DAYS...ESPECIALLY THE ECMWF...HAS BEEN UNDERWHELMING...SO AM NOT QUITE READY TO DRY THINGS OUT EARLY NEXT WEEK. WILL LARGELY KEEP THINGS IN THE SLIGHT CHANCE CATEGORY...EXCEPT ACROSS THE EASTERN CWA WHERE MORE OF THE CUTOFF LOW EFFECT IS POSSIBLE. TEMPERATURES WILL BE COLD ENOUGH THAT RAIN OR SNOW WILL BE POSSIBLE WITH ANY PRECIPITATION THAT DOES OCCUR. GEELHART && .ILX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... NONE. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS CHICAGO/ROMEOVILLE IL
1005 AM CST WED NOV 23 2011 .DISCUSSION... 340 AM CST AFTER A GLOOMY TUESDAY...GENERALLY TRANQUIL WEATHER WILL BE SEEN FOR MUCH OF THE NEXT 60 HOURS TO THE JOY OF HOLIDAY TRAVELERS AND SHOPPERS. THE CHALLENGES IN THE FORECAST FOR THE NEXT THREE DAYS ARE STRATUS/FOG EARLY THIS MORNING AND AGAIN FOR THANKSGIVING MORNING AND ITS ASSOCIATED IMPACTS ON TEMPERATURES. THEN THE FOCUS TURNS TO THIS WEEKEND INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK WITH COOLER AIR AND SNOW CHANCES. SYNOPSIS...THE SYSTEM THAT BROUGHT THE RAIN YESTERDAY IS NOW EXITING THE PICTURE ACROSS THE NORTHEAST. THE BACK END OF THE PRIMARY CLOUD SHIELD WILL MOVE OUT OF THE CWA BY MID-MORNING. LINGERING LOW-LEVEL MOISTURE UNDER A SUBSIDENCE INVERSION AND INCOMING SURFACE RIDGING HAS ALLOWED FOR EXPANSIVE STRATUS FROM MN/WESTERN WI SOUTH THROUGH THE LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY. IN ADDITION...SOME STRATUS/FOG IS OOZING ITS WAY SOUTH ALONG THE WEST SHORE OF LAKE MI. SIMILAR STRATUS MAY TRY TO DEVELOP UNTIL MID- MORNING AS THE PRIMARY SYNOPTIC CLOUD SHIELD EXITS ACROSS NORTHWEST IN. LIGHT FOG IS SEEN IN THE CLEAR AREAS...PRESUMABLY NOT HAVING BECOME MUCH WORSE DUE TO A LIGHT WIND COMPONENT. TODAY AND TONIGHT...THE STRATUS CREEPING INTO THE NORTHERN CHICAGO METRO IS NOT HANDLED WELL BY MOST OF THE MODELS...WHICH CAN BE EXPECTED WITH SUCH A SMALL SCALE FEATURE. THE RUC AND NAM PROFILES FOR ORD...WHILE NOT FULLY SATURATING IN THE LOW LAYERS...SHOW THE INVERSION VERY SLOW TO LIFT THIS MORNING. HAVE KEPT THOSE CLOUDS THROUGH MUCH OF THE MORNING WITHIN THE FORECAST...AS WELL AS ACCOUNTED FOR SOME SCATTERED/BROKEN CLOUDS ACROSS NORTHWEST IN. OUTSIDE OF THESE AREAS...A MOSTLY SUNNY SKY IS EXPECTED WITH THE MAIN STRATUS/STRATOCU REMAINING WEST AND SOUTH OF THE AREA. HIGHS ARE EXPECTED AROUND FIVE TO SEVEN DEGREES WARMER THAN YESTERDAY. THE CLOUDS...AS WELL AS SOME FOG...BECOME A CONCERN FOR TONIGHT AS RETURN FLOW JUST ABOVE THE INVERSION WILL HELP TO ADVECT WHAT IS LEFT OF THE CLOUDS TO OUR WEST. EVEN IF NONE IS LEFT...THE NAM 925/950MB SURFACES POINT TOWARDS SATURATION...AS DOES THE SPC 4KM WRF COLUMN CONDENSATE PRODUCT...WHICH HAS HANDLED THE LOW CLOUDS THIS MORNING THE BEST OF ANY SHORT TERM MODEL. SO HAVE INCREASED SKY COVER SOME TONIGHT AS WELL AS ADD PATCHY FOG WHERE THE WINDS WILL BE THE LIGHTEST...GENERALLY SOUTH AND SOUTHEAST OF CHICAGO. THANKSGIVING AND FRIDAY...THE POSSIBILITY OF CLOUDS AND AT LEAST THE INFERENCE OF MORE LIMITED MIXING HAS LED TO FORECAST HIGHS ON THE HOLIDAY TO BE INCHED DOWN A COUPLE DEGREES. SEVERAL MODELS HAVE SHOWN THAT TREND AS WELL. MIX DOWN FROM 950 MB /WHICH MAY EVEN BE A LITTLE DEEP/ SUPPORTS TEMPERATURES IN THE MID 50S. THE WINDS WILL STAY UP THU NIGHT KEEPING TEMPERATURES ABOUT TEN DEGREES WARMER THAN TONIGHT. FRIDAY WILL BE BREEZY WITH THE LOW- LEVEL THERMAL RIDGE OF 10C AT 925 MB OVERRIDING THE AREA. WHILE NO LOWER CLOUDS ARE EXPECTED DURING THE DAY...CIRRUS IS PROBABLE ESPECIALLY ACROSS FAR NORTHERN IL AS SHOWN BY SIMULATED WATER VAPOR AND UPPER LEVEL RH FIELDS ON THE NAM. HAVE BLENDED MIXING TO 940 MB FROM THE NAM WITH THE GOING FORECAST AS WELL AS THE BIAS CORRECTED GUIDANCE WHICH HAS DONE WELL DURING THE WARMER DAYS. FOR SOME MORE THOUGHTS ON FRIDAY TEMPERATURES...SEE THE CLIMATE DISCUSSION BELOW. THIS WEEKEND AND EARLY NEXT WEEK...THE MODEL GUIDANCE CONTINUES TO SHOW LARGE DIFFERENCES IN THE LONG RANGE...ESPECIALLY FROM RUN TO RUN OF EACH OF THE MODELS. LOW PRESSURE IS EXPECTED TO MOVE EAST NORTHEAST ACROSS THE GREAT LAKES DURING SATURDAY...DRAGGING A CANADIAN AIR MASS SOUTH SOUTHEAST INTO THE MIDDLE OF THE COUNTRY FLOODING OUR AREA SATURDAY NIGHT. CONVERGENCE ALONG THE FRONT IS STRONG AND THE MOISTURE RETURN AHEAD OF IT IS NARROW BUT FOCUSED DURING SATURDAY. CAN ENVISION WITH SUCH A FEATURE AND ORIENTATION THAT AREAS OF SHOWERS WILL BE STREAMING NORTH NORTHEAST ALONG AND IMMEDIATELY AHEAD OF THE FRONTAL BOUNDARY. MUCH OF FRIDAY NIGHT MAY NOT ACTUALLY SEE MUCH FOR RAIN HERE GIVEN STILL WELL AHEAD OF THE FRONT...AND THE 23.00 EC CONTINUED THAT TREND. SO REALLY BACKED OFF ON POPS PRIOR TO MIDNIGHT IN CHICAGO AND AREAS SOUTH. HAVE HIGHEST POPS DURING THE DAY SATURDAY STILL. THE UPPER TROUGH IS EXPECTED TO PROGRESS SOUTHEAST WITH THE UPPER JET...AND FOR MOST OF THE PAST MODEL RUNS OF THE GFS/EC A CUTOFF IS EXPECTED. THE TREND HAS BEEN FOR THIS TO HAPPEN IN THE OHIO/TN RIVER VALLEY AREA EARLY NEXT WEEK...WITH SOME RETROGRADING/PROGRESSION TO THE NNW. A CONTINUED ACTIVE NORTHERN STREAM JET MAY ALSO PROVIDE ENERGY TO ENHANCE CLOUDS AND SHOWER CHANCES THROUGH THIS PERIOD. HAVE CONTINUED TO PREFER A MODEL BLEND WITH THE GOING FORECAST FOR MOST SENSIBLE WEATHER ELEMENTS...AND IN GENERAL THAT SOLUTION LOOKS FINE. PROFILES BEGIN TO FAVOR A MIX OR JUST MORE SNOW SHOWERS BY SUNDAY...AND THEN AGAIN TUESDAY. THERE ALSO IS SUPPORT IN THE LOW-LEVEL LAPSE RATES/MOISTURE/CONVERGENCE FOR LAKE ENHANCED SHOWERS INTO NORTHWEST IN ON SUNDAY AND SUNDAY EVENING AND HAVE GONE ABOVE BLENDED POPS FOR THAT AREA. AT THIS TIME...IT LOOKS TO BE MORE OF RAIN SHOWER/MIX IN NORTHWEST IN. && .CLIMATE... 238 AM CST WHILE THE GOING FORECAST IS COOLER FOR THANKSGIVING DAY...THE HIGH TEMPERATURE FORECAST OF 55 FOR CHICAGO /ORD/ AND ROCKFORD WOULD PLACE THIS AS THE NINTH WARMEST THANKSGIVING ON RECORD FOR BOTH SITES. THOUGH FRIDAY IS BECOMING INCREASINGLY LIKELY TO SEE 60 REACHED IN THE FORECAST AREA /ESPECIALLY SOUTH OF I-80/...RECORD HIGHS FOR LONG TERM CLIMATE SITES LOOK OUT OF REACH. THOSE RECORDS FOR NOVEMBER 25TH ARE 65 IN 2008 FOR ORD...AND 64 IN 1915 FOR RFD. INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH...LOOKING BACK AT THE TOP FOUR MATCHING LOW- LEVEL ANALOGS FROM THE CIPS ANALOG PAGE COMPARED TO THE 60 HOUR FORECAST FROM THE 23.00 GFS...THE HIGHS AT ORD AVERAGED 59 DEGREES WHICH IS RIGHT AT THE GOING FORECAST. THAT IS 15 DEGREES ABOVE NORMAL. MTF && .AVIATION... //ORD AND MDW CONCERNS...UPDATED 16Z... * AREAS IFR/LIFR CIGS THIS MORNING. * POTENTIAL FOR RETURN TO MVFR CONDITIONS AS LARGE AREA OF ST/STRATOCU FM N TO NW TO W OF NORTHERN IL SLOWLY ADVECTS EASTWARD. TRS //DISCUSSION...UPDATED 14Z... AREA OF LOW STRATUS AND BR THAT HAD BEEN ADVECTING S FM FAR SE WI TO FAR NE IL JUST N OF ORD AIRFIELD AT 14Z AND CONTINUING TO SPREAD S TOWARD MDW. WITH BRIGHT SUNSHINE BEYOND THE ST AREAS EXPECT EDGES TO START TO MIX OUT. MODEL FCST TEMP AND MOISTURE PROFILES ALSO SHOW A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN DEW POINT DEPRESSIONS AT THE BASE OF THE LOWERING SUBSIDENCE INVERSION WHICH IS VERIFIED BY 12Z DVN RAOB WHICH SHOWED A SHALLOW BUT SIGNIFICANT DRY LATER 950-875 HPA WHICH WILL BE ADVECTED E ACROSS NORTHERN IL SO DO NOT ANTICIPATE THE IFR/LIFR TO PERSIST TO MUCH BEYOND MID MORNING. TRS PREVIOUS DISCUSSION...UPDATED 12Z... MAIN CONCERN THIS MORNING REMAINS LOW CLOUD/VIS POTENTIAL. AREA OF 200-500 FT CIGS...ALONG WITH LOW VISIBILITIES...CONTINUES TO SLOWLY EXPAND SOUTH INTO NORTHEAST IL WHILE AN AREA OF LOW MVFR CIGS EXPANDS OVER LAKE MICHIGAN AND SOUTH INTO NORTHWEST INDIANA. FORECAST SOUNDINGS AND MOISTURE FIELDS ALL SHOW DRYING OF THE LOW LEVELS BY LATE MORNING/EARLY AFTERNOON. BEFORE THEN...TRENDS ARE NOT THAT CLEAR AND HAVE ONCE AGAIN OPTED TO MAINTAIN THE TEMPO FOR LOWER CIGS/VIS FOR A FEW HRS THIS MORNING AND IF THESE LOWER CIGS DO MAKE IT INTO THE TERMINALS...THERE IS THE POSSIBILITY THAT THEY COULD PERSIST LONGER THAN 16Z THOUGH THEY WOULD LIKELY BE LIFTING INTO AT LEAST IFR BY THAT TIME. OVERALL CONFIDENCE REMAINS QUITE LOW. A RIDGE OF HIGH PRESSURE WILL MOVE ACROSS THE AREA LATER TODAY INTO THIS EVENING WITH ADDITIONAL MVFR CIGS ACROSS WISCONSIN AND IOWA...ON THE BACK SIDE OF THIS RIDGE...POTENTIALLY MOVING ACROSS NORTHWEST IL LATER TONIGHT INTO THURSDAY MORNING AND FOR NOW HAVE JUST MENTIONED SCATTERED LOW MVFR CLOUDS AS THESE TRENDS WILL NEED TO BE MONITORED THROUGH THE DAY. WITH THE RIDGE MOVING EAST OF THE AREA TONIGHT...FOG POTENTIAL LOOKS SOMEWHAT LIMITED AT THE TERMINALS...BETTER CHANCES SOUTHEAST OF THE TERMINALS AND HAVE ONLY INCLUDED LIGHT FOG/MIST AT RFD/DPA FOR NOW. CMS //ORD AND MDW CONFIDENCE...UPDATED 16Z... * MODERATE CONFIDENCE IN IFR/LIFR CIGS AT/VC ORD AND MDW MIXING OUT BY LATE MORNING. *HIGH CONFIDENCE LIGHT NW-W WINDS GRADUALLY BECOMING W-SW DURING THE REST OF THE DAY. TRS //OUTLOOK FOR ORD/MDW FOR 00Z FRIDAY-12Z WEDNESDAY...UPDATED 12Z... THURSDAY NIGHT...VFR. FRIDAY...VFR. BREEZY WITH SOUTH WINDS GUSTING 20-25KTS. SATURDAY...RAIN LIKELY. MVFR LIKELY WITH IFR POSSIBLE. SUNDAY THROUGH TUESDAY...MVFR POSSIBLE WITH SCATTERED SHRA AND POSSIBLY A FEW SHSN. CMS && .MARINE... 300 AM CST WITH LOW PRESSURE QUICKLY SHIFTING EAST OF THE LAKE THIS MORNING AND HIGH PRESSURE SLOWLY BUILDING EAST THROUGH THE UPPER MIDWEST...WINDS HAVE BEEN DIMINISHING ACROSS THE LAKE. WINDS WILL CONTINUE TO DIMINISH AS THIS HIGH SHIFTS EAST TODAY WITH A BRIEF PERIOD OF LIGHTER FLOW. ALTHOUGH WITH THIS HIGH CONTINUING TO THE EAST TONIGHT...A FAIRLY ACTIVE SURFACE PATTERN WILL BE IN PLACE TO THE NORTHWEST OF THE GREAT LAKES. THIS WILL PROVIDE A STRENGTHENING PRESSURE GRADIENT OVER THE LAKE WITH WINDS INCREASING ONCE AGAIN. THIS INCREASE IN WINDS WILL INITIALLY OCCUR OVER THE NORTHERN HALF OF THE LAKE BUT WITH WINDS EVENTUALLY INCREASING OVER THE SOUTHERN HALF LAKE TONIGHT INTO THURSDAY. WITH THIS HIGH REMAINING TO THE SOUTHEAST OF THE LAKE AND THIS ACTIVE SURFACE PATTERN TO THE NORTHWEST...A PERIOD OF STRONG SOUTHERLY FLOW WILL BE IN PLACE THROUGH THE END OF THE WORK WEEK. ALTHOUGH THIS WEATHER PATTERN WILL SUPPORT STRENGTHENING WINDS INTO FRIDAY...A WARMER AIR MASS WILL MOVE ACROSS THE LAKE. THIS COULD PROVIDE MORE STABLE CONDITIONS AND THUS LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF STRONGER WINDS ALOFT TO REACH THE SURFACE OF THE LAKE. HAVE KEPT WINDS JUST BELOW GALES THURSDAY NIGHT INTO FRIDAY DUE TO THIS WARMER AIR...BUT WILL HAVE TO CONTINUE TO MONITOR LATER GUIDANCE TO ASSESS THE POSSIBILITY OF THESE STRONGER WINDS ALOFT TO REACH THE SURFACE OF THE LAKE. RODRIGUEZ && .LOT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... IL...NONE. IN...NONE. LM...NONE. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS LINCOLN IL
951 AM CST WED NOV 23 2011 .DISCUSSION... ISSUED 950 AM CST WED NOV 23 2011 WILL UPDATE THE FORECAST LATE THIS MORNING AS THE FOG LIFTS INTO MIDDAY WITH SKIES BECOMING MOSTLY SUNNY THIS AFTERNOON. OTHERWISE REST OF FORECAST LOOKS ON TRACK WITH HIGHS IN THE LOWER 50S AND LIGHTER W/NW WINDS LESS THAN 10 MPH...TURNING SW DURING THE AFTERNOON. LATEST SURFACE MAP SHOWS 1027 MB HIGH PRESSURE SPRAWLED FROM NORTHERN MEXICO AND TEXAS AND RIDGING INTO WESTERN IL. MEANWHILE ELONGATED 1001 MB LOW PRESSURE WAS ALONG THE NJ AND SOUTHERN NEW ENGLAND COAST. UPPER LEVEL RIDGE OVER THE HIGH PLAINS WITH 500 MB HEIGHTS RISING OVER IL TO 567 DM WHILE SHARP UPPER LEVEL TROF WAS OVER THE ATLANTIC STATES. BROKEN TO OVERCAST STRATUS CLOUDS REMAIN OVER MUCH OF CENTRAL AND SE IL THOUGH LARGE BREAKS FROM LINCOLN NORTH AND AROUND DANVILLE. PILOT REPORT OVER CHAMPAIGN SHOULD CLOUD DESK FAIRLY SHALLOW WITH BASE 1K FT AND TOP 1.8K FT SO 800 FEET THICK STRATUS DECK. STILL SOME LINGERING FOG OVER PARTS OF CENTRAL IL MAINLY NORTH OF I-70 WITH VSBYS 1-3 MILES AND A FEW SPOTS LIKE RANTOUL... GALESBURG AND MACOMB HAVING DENSE FOG. STRATUS AND FOG IS FAIRLY SHALLOW BUT ALSO HAVE LOW SUN ANGLE FOR LATE NOVEMBER. EXPECT STRATUS CLOUDS AND FOG TO DISSIPATE INTO MIDDAY AS SKIES BECOME MOSTLY SUNNY DURING THIS AFTERNOON. 1027 MB HIGH PRESSURE TO BE CENTERED OVER THE MID MS VALLEY OF WESTERN KY/TN BY 00Z/6 PM WHILE 500 MB HEIGHTS RISE TO NEAR 570 DM OVER CENTRAL IL EARLY THIS EVENING. THIS SHOULD HELP TO INCREASE AMOUNT OF SUNSHINE DURING THE AFTERNOON AND BRING HIGHS IN THE LOWER 50S. THIS IS CLOSE TO NORMAL HIGHS IN THE UPPER 40S CENTRAL IL AND LOWER 50S IN SE IL FOR THIS DATE. NEARBY SURFACE HIGH PRESSURE WILL ALSO KEEP LIGHTER WINDS TODAY WITH W/NW WINDS LESS THAN 10 MPH SHIFTING SW DURING THE AFTERNOON. HUETTL && .AVIATION... ISSUED 515 AM CST WED NOV 23 2011 MAIN FORECAST ISSUE WILL BE LOW CLOUDS AND FOG THIS MORNING. SATELLITE IMAGES INDICATE BREAKS IN THE LOW CLOUD DECK...BUT THESE ARE FILLING IN WITH FOG AND EVEN LOWER STRATUS/OBSCURATIONS DUE TO RADIATIONAL COOLING. THIS WARRANTS A BROAD BRUSH APPROACH WITH IFR TEMPO LIFR THROUGH 15Z...FOLLOWED BY SOME MVFR FOG FOR A COUPLE OF HOURS. VFR CONDITIONS WILL THEN PREVAIL THROUGH THE DAY. HIGH PRESSURE RIDGE JUST WEST OF IL WILL MOVE THROUGH THE AREA TODAY... WITH LIGHT WINDS BECOMING SOUTHERLY 12Z THU. SOME CONCERN FOR FOG REDEVELOPMENT AFTER 06Z THU...SO FOR NOW WILL INDICATE SOME TEMPO 5SM BR 08Z-12Z THU. 04 && .PREV DISCUSSION... ISSUED 245 AM CST WED NOV 23 2011 LAST OF THE SHOWERS WITH THE RECENT SYSTEM MOVED OUT OF THE NORTHEAST CWA A COUPLE HOURS AGO. LOW STRATUS DECK CONTINUES OVER MUCH OF THE AREA...BUT A LARGE CLEAR AREA HAS BEEN MOVING SOUTHEAST...AND IS CREEPING INTO THE FAR NORTHWEST. THE PRIMARY CONCERN IN THE SHORT TERM IS WITH THE TIMING OF THIS CLEARING AREA. IN THE LONGER TERM...THE COLD FRONT PASSAGE THIS WEEKEND...AND THE POTENTIAL FOR LINGERING PRECIPITATION EARLY NEXT WEEK...IS THE MAIN FOCUS. SHORT TERM...TODAY THROUGH FRIDAY... CURRENT EXTENT OF STRATUS DECK SEEMS TO LINE UP REASONABLY WELL WITH THE RUC 950 MB HUMIDITY AND CONDENSATION PRESSURE DEFICIT ANALYSES. THIS WOULD INDICATE ANY CLEARING ACROSS THE FAR WEST WOULD BE SOMEWHAT TEMPORARY EARLY THIS MORNING...WITH THE CORE OF THE STEADIER CLEARING TREND OVERSPREADING THE CENTRAL AND NORTHEAST CWA. WILL KEEP THE WESTERN CWA FAIRLY CLOUDY UNTIL ABOUT MID AFTERNOON...WHERE LOW LEVEL INVERSION DOES NOT REALLY BREAK UNTIL AFTER MIDDAY...AND THUS HIGH TEMPERATURES IN THIS AREA WILL LIKELY STRUGGLE TO REACH 50 DEGREES TODAY. HIGH PRESSURE AXIS...CURRENTLY EXTENDING FROM TEXAS NORTHEAST TO NEAR MINNEAPOLIS...WILL SHIFT EASTWARD THROUGH TONIGHT AND BE JUST EAST OF OUR AREA THURSDAY MORNING. ONCE THE CURRENT CLOUDS FINALLY LEAVE...MOSTLY CLEAR SKIES SHOULD PREVAIL THROUGH FRIDAY. WENT A FEW DEGREES ABOVE MOS GUIDANCE FOR BOTH THANKSGIVING DAY AND FRIDAY. FRIDAY SHOULD BE THE WARMEST DAY...AS GUSTY SOUTHWEST WINDS AND PLENTY OF MIXING ALLOW TEMPERATURES TO RISE WELL INTO THE 60S OVER THE ENTIRE AREA. LONG TERM...SATURDAY THROUGH TUESDAY... TIMING OF INCOMING COLD FRONT ON SATURDAY CONTINUES TO SLOW A BIT. HAVE LIMITED POPS TO THE WESTERN CWA AFTER MIDNIGHT FRIDAY NIGHT...BUT CONTINUED WITH LIKELIES EVERYWHERE ON SATURDAY. LATEST INDICATIONS GENERALLY HAVE THE FRONT ITSELF EAST OF THE CWA BY LATE SATURDAY EVENING. MEDIUM RANGE MODELS STILL STRUGGLING SOME WITH THE DEEPENING OF THE UPPER TROUGH LATER THIS WEEKEND. THE GFS AND ECMWF ARE FAIRLY SIMILAR WITH CUTTING OFF A LOW IN THE TENNESSEE VALLEY SUNDAY NIGHT...WHILE THE GEM FEATURES A MUCH MORE PROGRESSIVE FLOW AND CUTS OFF A LOW OVER SOUTHERN TEXAS. THE CONSISTENCY AMONG THE MODELS THE LAST FEW DAYS...ESPECIALLY THE ECMWF...HAS BEEN UNDERWHELMING...SO AM NOT QUITE READY TO DRY THINGS OUT EARLY NEXT WEEK. WILL LARGELY KEEP THINGS IN THE SLIGHT CHANCE CATEGORY...EXCEPT ACROSS THE EASTERN CWA WHERE MORE OF THE CUTOFF LOW EFFECT IS POSSIBLE. TEMPERATURES WILL BE COLD ENOUGH THAT RAIN OR SNOW WILL BE POSSIBLE WITH ANY PRECIPITATION THAT DOES OCCUR. GEELHART && .ILX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... NONE. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS CHICAGO/ROMEOVILLE IL
824 AM CST WED NOV 23 2011 .DISCUSSION... 340 AM CST AFTER A GLOOMY TUESDAY...GENERALLY TRANQUIL WEATHER WILL BE SEEN FOR MUCH OF THE NEXT 60 HOURS TO THE JOY OF HOLIDAY TRAVELERS AND SHOPPERS. THE CHALLENGES IN THE FORECAST FOR THE NEXT THREE DAYS ARE STRATUS/FOG EARLY THIS MORNING AND AGAIN FOR THANKSGIVING MORNING AND ITS ASSOCIATED IMPACTS ON TEMPERATURES. THEN THE FOCUS TURNS TO THIS WEEKEND INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK WITH COOLER AIR AND SNOW CHANCES. SYNOPSIS...THE SYSTEM THAT BROUGHT THE RAIN YESTERDAY IS NOW EXITING THE PICTURE ACROSS THE NORTHEAST. THE BACK END OF THE PRIMARY CLOUD SHIELD WILL MOVE OUT OF THE CWA BY MID-MORNING. LINGERING LOW-LEVEL MOISTURE UNDER A SUBSIDENCE INVERSION AND INCOMING SURFACE RIDGING HAS ALLOWED FOR EXPANSIVE STRATUS FROM MN/WESTERN WI SOUTH THROUGH THE LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY. IN ADDITION...SOME STRATUS/FOG IS OOZING ITS WAY SOUTH ALONG THE WEST SHORE OF LAKE MI. SIMILAR STRATUS MAY TRY TO DEVELOP UNTIL MID- MORNING AS THE PRIMARY SYNOPTIC CLOUD SHIELD EXITS ACROSS NORTHWEST IN. LIGHT FOG IS SEEN IN THE CLEAR AREAS...PRESUMABLY NOT HAVING BECOME MUCH WORSE DUE TO A LIGHT WIND COMPONENT. TODAY AND TONIGHT...THE STRATUS CREEPING INTO THE NORTHERN CHICAGO METRO IS NOT HANDLED WELL BY MOST OF THE MODELS...WHICH CAN BE EXPECTED WITH SUCH A SMALL SCALE FEATURE. THE RUC AND NAM PROFILES FOR ORD...WHILE NOT FULLY SATURATING IN THE LOW LAYERS...SHOW THE INVERSION VERY SLOW TO LIFT THIS MORNING. HAVE KEPT THOSE CLOUDS THROUGH MUCH OF THE MORNING WITHIN THE FORECAST...AS WELL AS ACCOUNTED FOR SOME SCATTERED/BROKEN CLOUDS ACROSS NORTHWEST IN. OUTSIDE OF THESE AREAS...A MOSTLY SUNNY SKY IS EXPECTED WITH THE MAIN STRATUS/STRATOCU REMAINING WEST AND SOUTH OF THE AREA. HIGHS ARE EXPECTED AROUND FIVE TO SEVEN DEGREES WARMER THAN YESTERDAY. THE CLOUDS...AS WELL AS SOME FOG...BECOME A CONCERN FOR TONIGHT AS RETURN FLOW JUST ABOVE THE INVERSION WILL HELP TO ADVECT WHAT IS LEFT OF THE CLOUDS TO OUR WEST. EVEN IF NONE IS LEFT...THE NAM 925/950MB SURFACES POINT TOWARDS SATURATION...AS DOES THE SPC 4KM WRF COLUMN CONDENSATE PRODUCT...WHICH HAS HANDLED THE LOW CLOUDS THIS MORNING THE BEST OF ANY SHORT TERM MODEL. SO HAVE INCREASED SKY COVER SOME TONIGHT AS WELL AS ADD PATCHY FOG WHERE THE WINDS WILL BE THE LIGHTEST...GENERALLY SOUTH AND SOUTHEAST OF CHICAGO. THANKSGIVING AND FRIDAY...THE POSSIBILITY OF CLOUDS AND AT LEAST THE INFERENCE OF MORE LIMITED MIXING HAS LED TO FORECAST HIGHS ON THE HOLIDAY TO BE INCHED DOWN A COUPLE DEGREES. SEVERAL MODELS HAVE SHOWN THAT TREND AS WELL. MIX DOWN FROM 950 MB /WHICH MAY EVEN BE A LITTLE DEEP/ SUPPORTS TEMPERATURES IN THE MID 50S. THE WINDS WILL STAY UP THU NIGHT KEEPING TEMPERATURES ABOUT TEN DEGREES WARMER THAN TONIGHT. FRIDAY WILL BE BREEZY WITH THE LOW- LEVEL THERMAL RIDGE OF 10C AT 925 MB OVERRIDING THE AREA. WHILE NO LOWER CLOUDS ARE EXPECTED DURING THE DAY...CIRRUS IS PROBABLE ESPECIALLY ACROSS FAR NORTHERN IL AS SHOWN BY SIMULATED WATER VAPOR AND UPPER LEVEL RH FIELDS ON THE NAM. HAVE BLENDED MIXING TO 940 MB FROM THE NAM WITH THE GOING FORECAST AS WELL AS THE BIAS CORRECTED GUIDANCE WHICH HAS DONE WELL DURING THE WARMER DAYS. FOR SOME MORE THOUGHTS ON FRIDAY TEMPERATURES...SEE THE CLIMATE DISCUSSION BELOW. THIS WEEKEND AND EARLY NEXT WEEK...THE MODEL GUIDANCE CONTINUES TO SHOW LARGE DIFFERENCES IN THE LONG RANGE...ESPECIALLY FROM RUN TO RUN OF EACH OF THE MODELS. LOW PRESSURE IS EXPECTED TO MOVE EAST NORTHEAST ACROSS THE GREAT LAKES DURING SATURDAY...DRAGGING A CANADIAN AIR MASS SOUTH SOUTHEAST INTO THE MIDDLE OF THE COUNTRY FLOODING OUR AREA SATURDAY NIGHT. CONVERGENCE ALONG THE FRONT IS STRONG AND THE MOISTURE RETURN AHEAD OF IT IS NARROW BUT FOCUSED DURING SATURDAY. CAN ENVISION WITH SUCH A FEATURE AND ORIENTATION THAT AREAS OF SHOWERS WILL BE STREAMING NORTH NORTHEAST ALONG AND IMMEDIATELY AHEAD OF THE FRONTAL BOUNDARY. MUCH OF FRIDAY NIGHT MAY NOT ACTUALLY SEE MUCH FOR RAIN HERE GIVEN STILL WELL AHEAD OF THE FRONT...AND THE 23.00 EC CONTINUED THAT TREND. SO REALLY BACKED OFF ON POPS PRIOR TO MIDNIGHT IN CHICAGO AND AREAS SOUTH. HAVE HIGHEST POPS DURING THE DAY SATURDAY STILL. THE UPPER TROUGH IS EXPECTED TO PROGRESS SOUTHEAST WITH THE UPPER JET...AND FOR MOST OF THE PAST MODEL RUNS OF THE GFS/EC A CUTOFF IS EXPECTED. THE TREND HAS BEEN FOR THIS TO HAPPEN IN THE OHIO/TN RIVER VALLEY AREA EARLY NEXT WEEK...WITH SOME RETROGRADING/PROGRESSION TO THE NNW. A CONTINUED ACTIVE NORTHERN STREAM JET MAY ALSO PROVIDE ENERGY TO ENHANCE CLOUDS AND SHOWER CHANCES THROUGH THIS PERIOD. HAVE CONTINUED TO PREFER A MODEL BLEND WITH THE GOING FORECAST FOR MOST SENSIBLE WEATHER ELEMENTS...AND IN GENERAL THAT SOLUTION LOOKS FINE. PROFILES BEGIN TO FAVOR A MIX OR JUST MORE SNOW SHOWERS BY SUNDAY...AND THEN AGAIN TUESDAY. THERE ALSO IS SUPPORT IN THE LOW-LEVEL LAPSE RATES/MOISTURE/CONVERGENCE FOR LAKE ENHANCED SHOWERS INTO NORTHWEST IN ON SUNDAY AND SUNDAY EVENING AND HAVE GONE ABOVE BLENDED POPS FOR THAT AREA. AT THIS TIME...IT LOOKS TO BE MORE OF RAIN SHOWER/MIX IN NORTHWEST IN. && .CLIMATE... 238 AM CST WHILE THE GOING FORECAST IS COOLER FOR THANKSGIVING DAY...THE HIGH TEMPERATURE FORECAST OF 55 FOR CHICAGO /ORD/ AND ROCKFORD WOULD PLACE THIS AS THE NINTH WARMEST THANKSGIVING ON RECORD FOR BOTH SITES. THOUGH FRIDAY IS BECOMING INCREASINGLY LIKELY TO SEE 60 REACHED IN THE FORECAST AREA /ESPECIALLY SOUTH OF I-80/...RECORD HIGHS FOR LONG TERM CLIMATE SITES LOOK OUT OF REACH. THOSE RECORDS FOR NOVEMBER 25TH ARE 65 IN 2008 FOR ORD...AND 64 IN 1915 FOR RFD. INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH...LOOKING BACK AT THE TOP FOUR MATCHING LOW- LEVEL ANALOGS FROM THE CIPS ANALOG PAGE COMPARED TO THE 60 HOUR FORECAST FROM THE 23.00 GFS...THE HIGHS AT ORD AVERAGED 59 DEGREES WHICH IS RIGHT AT THE GOING FORECAST. THAT IS 15 DEGREES ABOVE NORMAL. MTF && .AVIATION... //ORD AND MDW CONCERNS...UPDATED 14Z... * AREAS IFR/LIFR CIGS AND VSBYS THIS MORNING. * POTENTIAL FOR RETURN TO MVFR CONDITIONS AS LARGE AREA OF ST/STRATOCU FM N TO NW TO W OF NORTHERN IL SLOWLY ADVECTS EASTWARD. TRS //DISCUSSION...UPDATED 14Z... AREA OF LOW STRATUS AND BR THAT HAD BEEN ADVECTING S FM FAR SE WI TO FAR NE IL JUST N OF ORD AIRFIELD AT 14Z AND CONTINUING TO SPREAD S TOWARD MDW. WITH BRIGHT SUNSHINE BEYOND THE ST AREAS EXPECT EDGES TO START TO MIX OUT. MODEL FCST TEMP AND MOISTURE PROFILES ALSO SHOW A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN DEW POINT DEPRESSIONS AT THE BASE OF THE LOWERING SUBSIDENCE INVERSION WHICH IS VERIFIED BY 12Z DVN RAOB WHICH SHOWED A SHALLOW BUT SIGNIFICANT DRY LATER 950-875 HPA WHICH WILL BE ADVECTED E ACROSS NORTHERN IL SO DO NOT ANTICIPATE THE IFR/LIFR TO PERSIST TO MUCH BEYOND MID MORNING. TRS PREVIOUS DISCUSSION...UPDATED 12Z... MAIN CONCERN THIS MORNING REMAINS LOW CLOUD/VIS POTENTIAL. AREA OF 200-500 FT CIGS...ALONG WITH LOW VISIBILITIES...CONTINUES TO SLOWLY EXPAND SOUTH INTO NORTHEAST IL WHILE AN AREA OF LOW MVFR CIGS EXPANDS OVER LAKE MICHIGAN AND SOUTH INTO NORTHWEST INDIANA. FORECAST SOUNDINGS AND MOISTURE FIELDS ALL SHOW DRYING OF THE LOW LEVELS BY LATE MORNING/EARLY AFTERNOON. BEFORE THEN...TRENDS ARE NOT THAT CLEAR AND HAVE ONCE AGAIN OPTED TO MAINTAIN THE TEMPO FOR LOWER CIGS/VIS FOR A FEW HRS THIS MORNING AND IF THESE LOWER CIGS DO MAKE IT INTO THE TERMINALS...THERE IS THE POSSIBILITY THAT THEY COULD PERSIST LONGER THAN 16Z THOUGH THEY WOULD LIKELY BE LIFTING INTO AT LEAST IFR BY THAT TIME. OVERALL CONFIDENCE REMAINS QUITE LOW. A RIDGE OF HIGH PRESSURE WILL MOVE ACROSS THE AREA LATER TODAY INTO THIS EVENING WITH ADDITIONAL MVFR CIGS ACROSS WISCONSIN AND IOWA...ON THE BACK SIDE OF THIS RIDGE...POTENTIALLY MOVING ACROSS NORTHWEST IL LATER TONIGHT INTO THURSDAY MORNING AND FOR NOW HAVE JUST MENTIONED SCATTERED LOW MVFR CLOUDS AS THESE TRENDS WILL NEED TO BE MONITORED THROUGH THE DAY. WITH THE RIDGE MOVING EAST OF THE AREA TONIGHT...FOG POTENTIAL LOOKS SOMEWHAT LIMITED AT THE TERMINALS...BETTER CHANCES SOUTHEAST OF THE TERMINALS AND HAVE ONLY INCLUDED LIGHT FOG/MIST AT RFD/DPA FOR NOW. CMS //ORD AND MDW CONFIDENCE...UPDATED 12Z... * MODERATE CONFIDENCE IN IFR/LIFR CIGS VS ORD AND MDW THRU MID MORNING THOUGH LOW CONFIDENCE IN ACTUALLY BECOMING PREVAILING OVER THESE SITES. TRS //OUTLOOK FOR ORD/MDW FOR 00Z FRIDAY-12Z WEDNESDAY...UPDATED 12Z... THURSDAY NIGHT...VFR. FRIDAY...VFR. BREEZY WITH SOUTH WINDS GUSTING 20-25KTS. SATURDAY...RAIN LIKELY. MVFR LIKELY WITH IFR POSSIBLE. SUNDAY THROUGH TUESDAY...MVFR POSSIBLE WITH SCATTERED SHRA AND POSSIBLY A FEW SHSN. CMS && .MARINE... 300 AM CST WITH LOW PRESSURE QUICKLY SHIFTING EAST OF THE LAKE THIS MORNING AND HIGH PRESSURE SLOWLY BUILDING EAST THROUGH THE UPPER MIDWEST...WINDS HAVE BEEN DIMINISHING ACROSS THE LAKE. WINDS WILL CONTINUE TO DIMINISH AS THIS HIGH SHIFTS EAST TODAY WITH A BRIEF PERIOD OF LIGHTER FLOW. ALTHOUGH WITH THIS HIGH CONTINUING TO THE EAST TONIGHT...A FAIRLY ACTIVE SURFACE PATTERN WILL BE IN PLACE TO THE NORTHWEST OF THE GREAT LAKES. THIS WILL PROVIDE A STRENGTHENING PRESSURE GRADIENT OVER THE LAKE WITH WINDS INCREASING ONCE AGAIN. THIS INCREASE IN WINDS WILL INITIALLY OCCUR OVER THE NORTHERN HALF OF THE LAKE BUT WITH WINDS EVENTUALLY INCREASING OVER THE SOUTHERN HALF LAKE TONIGHT INTO THURSDAY. WITH THIS HIGH REMAINING TO THE SOUTHEAST OF THE LAKE AND THIS ACTIVE SURFACE PATTERN TO THE NORTHWEST...A PERIOD OF STRONG SOUTHERLY FLOW WILL BE IN PLACE THROUGH THE END OF THE WORK WEEK. ALTHOUGH THIS WEATHER PATTERN WILL SUPPORT STRENGTHENING WINDS INTO FRIDAY...A WARMER AIR MASS WILL MOVE ACROSS THE LAKE. THIS COULD PROVIDE MORE STABLE CONDITIONS AND THUS LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF STRONGER WINDS ALOFT TO REACH THE SURFACE OF THE LAKE. HAVE KEPT WINDS JUST BELOW GALES THURSDAY NIGHT INTO FRIDAY DUE TO THIS WARMER AIR...BUT WILL HAVE TO CONTINUE TO MONITOR LATER GUIDANCE TO ASSESS THE POSSIBILITY OF THESE STRONGER WINDS ALOFT TO REACH THE SURFACE OF THE LAKE. RODRIGUEZ && .LOT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... IL...NONE. IN...NONE. LM...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY...NEARSHORE WILMETTE HARBOR TO MICHIGAN CITY IN UNTIL 9 AM WEDNESDAY. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS CHICAGO/ROMEOVILLE IL
608 AM CST WED NOV 23 2011 .DISCUSSION... 340 AM CST AFTER A GLOOMY TUESDAY...GENERALLY TRANQUIL WEATHER WILL BE SEEN FOR MUCH OF THE NEXT 60 HOURS TO THE JOY OF HOLIDAY TRAVELERS AND SHOPPERS. THE CHALLENGES IN THE FORECAST FOR THE NEXT THREE DAYS ARE STRATUS/FOG EARLY THIS MORNING AND AGAIN FOR THANKSGIVING MORNING AND ITS ASSOCIATED IMPACTS ON TEMPERATURES. THEN THE FOCUS TURNS TO THIS WEEKEND INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK WITH COOLER AIR AND SNOW CHANCES. SYNOPSIS...THE SYSTEM THAT BROUGHT THE RAIN YESTERDAY IS NOW EXITING THE PICTURE ACROSS THE NORTHEAST. THE BACK END OF THE PRIMARY CLOUD SHIELD WILL MOVE OUT OF THE CWA BY MID-MORNING. LINGERING LOW-LEVEL MOISTURE UNDER A SUBSIDENCE INVERSION AND INCOMING SURFACE RIDGING HAS ALLOWED FOR EXPANSIVE STRATUS FROM MN/WESTERN WI SOUTH THROUGH THE LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY. IN ADDITION...SOME STRATUS/FOG IS OOZING ITS WAY SOUTH ALONG THE WEST SHORE OF LAKE MI. SIMILAR STRATUS MAY TRY TO DEVELOP UNTIL MID- MORNING AS THE PRIMARY SYNOPTIC CLOUD SHIELD EXITS ACROSS NORTHWEST IN. LIGHT FOG IS SEEN IN THE CLEAR AREAS...PRESUMABLY NOT HAVING BECOME MUCH WORSE DUE TO A LIGHT WIND COMPONENT. TODAY AND TONIGHT...THE STRATUS CREEPING INTO THE NORTHERN CHICAGO METRO IS NOT HANDLED WELL BY MOST OF THE MODELS...WHICH CAN BE EXPECTED WITH SUCH A SMALL SCALE FEATURE. THE RUC AND NAM PROFILES FOR ORD...WHILE NOT FULLY SATURATING IN THE LOW LAYERS...SHOW THE INVERSION VERY SLOW TO LIFT THIS MORNING. HAVE KEPT THOSE CLOUDS THROUGH MUCH OF THE MORNING WITHIN THE FORECAST...AS WELL AS ACCOUNTED FOR SOME SCATTERED/BROKEN CLOUDS ACROSS NORTHWEST IN. OUTSIDE OF THESE AREAS...A MOSTLY SUNNY SKY IS EXPECTED WITH THE MAIN STRATUS/STRATOCU REMAINING WEST AND SOUTH OF THE AREA. HIGHS ARE EXPECTED AROUND FIVE TO SEVEN DEGREES WARMER THAN YESTERDAY. THE CLOUDS...AS WELL AS SOME FOG...BECOME A CONCERN FOR TONIGHT AS RETURN FLOW JUST ABOVE THE INVERSION WILL HELP TO ADVECT WHAT IS LEFT OF THE CLOUDS TO OUR WEST. EVEN IF NONE IS LEFT...THE NAM 925/950MB SURFACES POINT TOWARDS SATURATION...AS DOES THE SPC 4KM WRF COLUMN CONDENSATE PRODUCT...WHICH HAS HANDLED THE LOW CLOUDS THIS MORNING THE BEST OF ANY SHORT TERM MODEL. SO HAVE INCREASED SKY COVER SOME TONIGHT AS WELL AS ADD PATCHY FOG WHERE THE WINDS WILL BE THE LIGHTEST...GENERALLY SOUTH AND SOUTHEAST OF CHICAGO. THANKSGIVING AND FRIDAY...THE POSSIBILITY OF CLOUDS AND AT LEAST THE INFERENCE OF MORE LIMITED MIXING HAS LED TO FORECAST HIGHS ON THE HOLIDAY TO BE INCHED DOWN A COUPLE DEGREES. SEVERAL MODELS HAVE SHOWN THAT TREND AS WELL. MIX DOWN FROM 950 MB /WHICH MAY EVEN BE A LITTLE DEEP/ SUPPORTS TEMPERATURES IN THE MID 50S. THE WINDS WILL STAY UP THU NIGHT KEEPING TEMPERATURES ABOUT TEN DEGREES WARMER THAN TONIGHT. FRIDAY WILL BE BREEZY WITH THE LOW- LEVEL THERMAL RIDGE OF 10C AT 925 MB OVERRIDING THE AREA. WHILE NO LOWER CLOUDS ARE EXPECTED DURING THE DAY...CIRRUS IS PROBABLE ESPECIALLY ACROSS FAR NORTHERN IL AS SHOWN BY SIMULATED WATER VAPOR AND UPPER LEVEL RH FIELDS ON THE NAM. HAVE BLENDED MIXING TO 940 MB FROM THE NAM WITH THE GOING FORECAST AS WELL AS THE BIAS CORRECTED GUIDANCE WHICH HAS DONE WELL DURING THE WARMER DAYS. FOR SOME MORE THOUGHTS ON FRIDAY TEMPERATURES...SEE THE CLIMATE DISCUSSION BELOW. THIS WEEKEND AND EARLY NEXT WEEK...THE MODEL GUIDANCE CONTINUES TO SHOW LARGE DIFFERENCES IN THE LONG RANGE...ESPECIALLY FROM RUN TO RUN OF EACH OF THE MODELS. LOW PRESSURE IS EXPECTED TO MOVE EAST NORTHEAST ACROSS THE GREAT LAKES DURING SATURDAY...DRAGGING A CANADIAN AIR MASS SOUTH SOUTHEAST INTO THE MIDDLE OF THE COUNTRY FLOODING OUR AREA SATURDAY NIGHT. CONVERGENCE ALONG THE FRONT IS STRONG AND THE MOISTURE RETURN AHEAD OF IT IS NARROW BUT FOCUSED DURING SATURDAY. CAN ENVISION WITH SUCH A FEATURE AND ORIENTATION THAT AREAS OF SHOWERS WILL BE STREAMING NORTH NORTHEAST ALONG AND IMMEDIATELY AHEAD OF THE FRONTAL BOUNDARY. MUCH OF FRIDAY NIGHT MAY NOT ACTUALLY SEE MUCH FOR RAIN HERE GIVEN STILL WELL AHEAD OF THE FRONT...AND THE 23.00 EC CONTINUED THAT TREND. SO REALLY BACKED OFF ON POPS PRIOR TO MIDNIGHT IN CHICAGO AND AREAS SOUTH. HAVE HIGHEST POPS DURING THE DAY SATURDAY STILL. THE UPPER TROUGH IS EXPECTED TO PROGRESS SOUTHEAST WITH THE UPPER JET...AND FOR MOST OF THE PAST MODEL RUNS OF THE GFS/EC A CUTOFF IS EXPECTED. THE TREND HAS BEEN FOR THIS TO HAPPEN IN THE OHIO/TN RIVER VALLEY AREA EARLY NEXT WEEK...WITH SOME RETROGRADING/PROGRESSION TO THE NNW. A CONTINUED ACTIVE NORTHERN STREAM JET MAY ALSO PROVIDE ENERGY TO ENHANCE CLOUDS AND SHOWER CHANCES THROUGH THIS PERIOD. HAVE CONTINUED TO PREFER A MODEL BLEND WITH THE GOING FORECAST FOR MOST SENSIBLE WEATHER ELEMENTS...AND IN GENERAL THAT SOLUTION LOOKS FINE. PROFILES BEGIN TO FAVOR A MIX OR JUST MORE SNOW SHOWERS BY SUNDAY...AND THEN AGAIN TUESDAY. THERE ALSO IS SUPPORT IN THE LOW-LEVEL LAPSE RATES/MOISTURE/CONVERGENCE FOR LAKE ENHANCED SHOWERS INTO NORTHWEST IN ON SUNDAY AND SUNDAY EVENING AND HAVE GONE ABOVE BLENDED POPS FOR THAT AREA. AT THIS TIME...IT LOOKS TO BE MORE OF RAIN SHOWER/MIX IN NORTHWEST IN. && .CLIMATE... 238 AM CST WHILE THE GOING FORECAST IS COOLER FOR THANKSGIVING DAY...THE HIGH TEMPERATURE FORECAST OF 55 FOR CHICAGO /ORD/ AND ROCKFORD WOULD PLACE THIS AS THE NINTH WARMEST THANKSGIVING ON RECORD FOR BOTH SITES. THOUGH FRIDAY IS BECOMING INCREASINGLY LIKELY TO SEE 60 REACHED IN THE FORECAST AREA /ESPECIALLY SOUTH OF I-80/...RECORD HIGHS FOR LONG TERM CLIMATE SITES LOOK OUT OF REACH. THOSE RECORDS FOR NOVEMBER 25TH ARE 65 IN 2008 FOR ORD...AND 64 IN 1915 FOR RFD. INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH...LOOKING BACK AT THE TOP FOUR MATCHING LOW- LEVEL ANALOGS FROM THE CIPS ANALOG PAGE COMPARED TO THE 60 HOUR FORECAST FROM THE 23.00 GFS...THE HIGHS AT ORD AVERAGED 59 DEGREES WHICH IS RIGHT AT THE GOING FORECAST. THAT IS 15 DEGREES ABOVE NORMAL. MTF && .AVIATION... //ORD AND MDW CONCERNS...UPDATED 12Z... * LIFR/VLIFR CIGS/VIS THIS MORNING. CMS //DISCUSSION...UPDATED 12Z... MAIN CONCERN THIS MORNING REMAINS LOW CLOUD/VIS POTENTIAL. AREA OF 200-500 FT CIGS...ALONG WITH LOW VISIBILITIES...CONTINUES TO SLOWLY EXPAND SOUTH INTO NORTHEAST IL WHILE AN AREA OF LOW MVFR CIGS EXPANDS OVER LAKE MICHIGAN AND SOUTH INTO NORTHWEST INDIANA. FORECAST SOUNDINGS AND MOISTURE FIELDS ALL SHOW DRYING OF THE LOW LEVELS BY LATE MORNING/EARLY AFTERNOON. BEFORE THEN...TRENDS ARE NOT THAT CLEAR AND HAVE ONCE AGAIN OPTED TO MAINTAIN THE TEMPO FOR LOWER CIGS/VIS FOR A FEW HRS THIS MORNING AND IF THESE LOWER CIGS DO MAKE IT INTO THE TERMINALS...THERE IS THE POSSIBILITY THAT THEY COULD PERSIST LONGER THAN 16Z THOUGH THEY WOULD LIKELY BE LIFTING INTO AT LEAST IFR BY THAT TIME. OVERALL CONFIDENCE REMAINS QUITE LOW. A RIDGE OF HIGH PRESSURE WILL MOVE ACROSS THE AREA LATER TODAY INTO THIS EVENING WITH ADDITIONAL MVFR CIGS ACROSS WISCONSIN AND IOWA...ON THE BACK SIDE OF THIS RIDGE...POTENTIALLY MOVING ACROSS NORTHWEST IL LATER TONIGHT INTO THURSDAY MORNING AND FOR NOW HAVE JUST MENTIONED SCATTERED LOW MVFR CLOUDS AS THESE TRENDS WILL NEED TO BE MONITORED THROUGH THE DAY. WITH THE RIDGE MOVING EAST OF THE AREA TONIGHT...FOG POTENTIAL LOOKS SOMEWHAT LIMITED AT THE TERMINALS...BETTER CHANCES SOUTHEAST OF THE TERMINALS AND HAVE ONLY INCLUDED LIGHT FOG/MIST AT RFD/DPA FOR NOW. CMS //ORD AND MDW CONFIDENCE...UPDATED 12Z... * LOW CONFIDENCE REGARDING CIGS/VIS AND TIMING. CMS //OUTLOOK FOR ORD/MDW FOR 00Z FRIDAY-12Z WEDNESDAY...UPDATED 12Z... THURSDAY NIGHT...VFR. FRIDAY...VFR. BREEZY WITH SOUTH WINDS GUSTING 20-25KTS. SATURDAY...RAIN LIKELY. MVFR LIKELY WITH IFR POSSIBLE. SUNDAY THROUGH TUESDAY...MVFR POSSIBLE WITH SCATTERED SHRA AND POSSIBLY A FEW SHSN. CMS && .MARINE... 300 AM CST WITH LOW PRESSURE QUICKLY SHIFTING EAST OF THE LAKE THIS MORNING AND HIGH PRESSURE SLOWLY BUILDING EAST THROUGH THE UPPER MIDWEST...WINDS HAVE BEEN DIMINISHING ACROSS THE LAKE. WINDS WILL CONTINUE TO DIMINISH AS THIS HIGH SHIFTS EAST TODAY WITH A BRIEF PERIOD OF LIGHTER FLOW. ALTHOUGH WITH THIS HIGH CONTINUING TO THE EAST TONIGHT...A FAIRLY ACTIVE SURFACE PATTERN WILL BE IN PLACE TO THE NORTHWEST OF THE GREAT LAKES. THIS WILL PROVIDE A STRENGTHENING PRESSURE GRADIENT OVER THE LAKE WITH WINDS INCREASING ONCE AGAIN. THIS INCREASE IN WINDS WILL INITIALLY OCCUR OVER THE NORTHERN HALF OF THE LAKE BUT WITH WINDS EVENTUALLY INCREASING OVER THE SOUTHERN HALF LAKE TONIGHT INTO THURSDAY. WITH THIS HIGH REMAINING TO THE SOUTHEAST OF THE LAKE AND THIS ACTIVE SURFACE PATTERN TO THE NORTHWEST...A PERIOD OF STRONG SOUTHERLY FLOW WILL BE IN PLACE THROUGH THE END OF THE WORK WEEK. ALTHOUGH THIS WEATHER PATTERN WILL SUPPORT STRENGTHENING WINDS INTO FRIDAY...A WARMER AIR MASS WILL MOVE ACROSS THE LAKE. THIS COULD PROVIDE MORE STABLE CONDITIONS AND THUS LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF STRONGER WINDS ALOFT TO REACH THE SURFACE OF THE LAKE. HAVE KEPT WINDS JUST BELOW GALES THURSDAY NIGHT INTO FRIDAY DUE TO THIS WARMER AIR...BUT WILL HAVE TO CONTINUE TO MONITOR LATER GUIDANCE TO ASSESS THE POSSIBILITY OF THESE STRONGER WINDS ALOFT TO REACH THE SURFACE OF THE LAKE. RODRIGUEZ && .LOT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... IL...NONE. IN...NONE. LM...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY...NEARSHORE WILMETTE HARBOR TO MICHIGAN CITY IN UNTIL 9 AM WEDNESDAY. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS LINCOLN IL
515 AM CST WED NOV 23 2011 .DISCUSSION... ISSUED 245 AM CST WED NOV 23 2011 LAST OF THE SHOWERS WITH THE RECENT SYSTEM MOVED OUT OF THE NORTHEAST CWA A COUPLE HOURS AGO. LOW STRATUS DECK CONTINUES OVER MUCH OF THE AREA...BUT A LARGE CLEAR AREA HAS BEEN MOVING SOUTHEAST...AND IS CREEPING INTO THE FAR NORTHWEST. THE PRIMARY CONCERN IN THE SHORT TERM IS WITH THE TIMING OF THIS CLEARING AREA. IN THE LONGER TERM...THE COLD FRONT PASSAGE THIS WEEKEND...AND THE POTENTIAL FOR LINGERING PRECIPITATION EARLY NEXT WEEK...IS THE MAIN FOCUS. SHORT TERM...TODAY THROUGH FRIDAY... CURRENT EXTENT OF STRATUS DECK SEEMS TO LINE UP REASONABLY WELL WITH THE RUC 950 MB HUMIDITY AND CONDENSATION PRESSURE DEFICIT ANALYSES. THIS WOULD INDICATE ANY CLEARING ACROSS THE FAR WEST WOULD BE SOMEWHAT TEMPORARY EARLY THIS MORNING...WITH THE CORE OF THE STEADIER CLEARING TREND OVERSPREADING THE CENTRAL AND NORTHEAST CWA. WILL KEEP THE WESTERN CWA FAIRLY CLOUDY UNTIL ABOUT MID AFTERNOON...WHERE LOW LEVEL INVERSION DOES NOT REALLY BREAK UNTIL AFTER MIDDAY...AND THUS HIGH TEMPERATURES IN THIS AREA WILL LIKELY STRUGGLE TO REACH 50 DEGREES TODAY. HIGH PRESSURE AXIS...CURRENTLY EXTENDING FROM TEXAS NORTHEAST TO NEAR MINNEAPOLIS...WILL SHIFT EASTWARD THROUGH TONIGHT AND BE JUST EAST OF OUR AREA THURSDAY MORNING. ONCE THE CURRENT CLOUDS FINALLY LEAVE...MOSTLY CLEAR SKIES SHOULD PREVAIL THROUGH FRIDAY. WENT A FEW DEGREES ABOVE MOS GUIDANCE FOR BOTH THANKSGIVING DAY AND FRIDAY. FRIDAY SHOULD BE THE WARMEST DAY...AS GUSTY SOUTHWEST WINDS AND PLENTY OF MIXING ALLOW TEMPERATURES TO RISE WELL INTO THE 60S OVER THE ENTIRE AREA. LONG TERM...SATURDAY THROUGH TUESDAY... TIMING OF INCOMING COLD FRONT ON SATURDAY CONTINUES TO SLOW A BIT. HAVE LIMITED POPS TO THE WESTERN CWA AFTER MIDNIGHT FRIDAY NIGHT...BUT CONTINUED WITH LIKELIES EVERYWHERE ON SATURDAY. LATEST INDICATIONS GENERALLY HAVE THE FRONT ITSELF EAST OF THE CWA BY LATE SATURDAY EVENING. MEDIUM RANGE MODELS STILL STRUGGLING SOME WITH THE DEEPENING OF THE UPPER TROUGH LATER THIS WEEKEND. THE GFS AND ECMWF ARE FAIRLY SIMILAR WITH CUTTING OFF A LOW IN THE TENNESSEE VALLEY SUNDAY NIGHT...WHILE THE GEM FEATURES A MUCH MORE PROGRESSIVE FLOW AND CUTS OFF A LOW OVER SOUTHERN TEXAS. THE CONSISTENCY AMONG THE MODELS THE LAST FEW DAYS...ESPECIALLY THE ECMWF...HAS BEEN UNDERWHELMING...SO AM NOT QUITE READY TO DRY THINGS OUT EARLY NEXT WEEK. WILL LARGELY KEEP THINGS IN THE SLIGHT CHANCE CATEGORY...EXCEPT ACROSS THE EASTERN CWA WHERE MORE OF THE CUTOFF LOW EFFECT IS POSSIBLE. TEMPERATURES WILL BE COLD ENOUGH THAT RAIN OR SNOW WILL BE POSSIBLE WITH ANY PRECIPITATION THAT DOES OCCUR. GEELHART && .AVIATION... ISSUED 515 AM CST WED NOV 23 2011 MAIN FORECAST ISSUE WILL BE LOW CLOUDS AND FOG THIS MORNING. SATELLITE IMAGES INDICATE BREAKS IN THE LOW CLOUD DECK...BUT THESE ARE FILLING IN WITH FOG AND EVEN LOWER STRATUS/OBSCURATIONS DUE TO RADIATIONAL COOLING. THIS WARRANTS A BROAD BRUSH APPROACH WITH IFR TEMPO LIFR THROUGH 15Z...FOLLOWED BY SOME MVFR FOG FOR A COUPLE OF HOURS. VFR CONDITIONS WILL THEN PREVAIL THROUGH THE DAY. HIGH PRESSURE RIDGE JUST WEST OF IL WILL MOVE THROUGH THE AREA TODAY... WITH LIGHT WINDS BECOMING SOUTHERLY 12Z THU. SOME CONCERN FOR FOG REDEVELOPMENT AFTER 06Z THU...SO FOR NOW WILL INDICATE SOME TEMPO 5SM BR 08Z-12Z THU. 04 && .ILX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... NONE. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS CHICAGO/ROMEOVILLE IL
406 AM CST WED NOV 23 2011 .DISCUSSION... 340 AM CST AFTER A GLOOMY TUESDAY...GENERALLY TRANQUIL WEATHER WILL BE SEEN FOR MUCH OF THE NEXT 60 HOURS TO THE JOY OF HOLIDAY TRAVELERS AND SHOPPERS. THE CHALLENGES IN THE FORECAST FOR THE NEXT THREE DAYS ARE STRATUS/FOG EARLY THIS MORNING AND AGAIN FOR THANKSGIVING MORNING AND ITS ASSOCIATED IMPACTS ON TEMPERATURES. THEN THE FOCUS TURNS TO THIS WEEKEND INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK WITH COOLER AIR AND SNOW CHANCES. SYNOPSIS...THE SYSTEM THAT BROUGHT THE RAIN YESTERDAY IS NOW EXITING THE PICTURE ACROSS THE NORTHEAST. THE BACK END OF THE PRIMARY CLOUD SHIELD WILL MOVE OUT OF THE CWA BY MID-MORNING. LINGERING LOW-LEVEL MOISTURE UNDER A SUBSIDENCE INVERSION AND INCOMING SURFACE RIDGING HAS ALLOWED FOR EXPANSIVE STRATUS FROM MN/WESTERN WI SOUTH THROUGH THE LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY. IN ADDITION...SOME STRATUS/FOG IS OOZING ITS WAY SOUTH ALONG THE WEST SHORE OF LAKE MI. SIMILAR STRATUS MAY TRY TO DEVELOP UNTIL MID- MORNING AS THE PRIMARY SYNOPTIC CLOUD SHIELD EXITS ACROSS NORTHWEST IN. LIGHT FOG IS SEEN IN THE CLEAR AREAS...PRESUMABLY NOT HAVING BECOME MUCH WORSE DUE TO A LIGHT WIND COMPONENT. TODAY AND TONIGHT...THE STRATUS CREEPING INTO THE NORTHERN CHICAGO METRO IS NOT HANDLED WELL BY MOST OF THE MODELS...WHICH CAN BE EXPECTED WITH SUCH A SMALL SCALE FEATURE. THE RUC AND NAM PROFILES FOR ORD...WHILE NOT FULLY SATURATING IN THE LOW LAYERS...SHOW THE INVERSION VERY SLOW TO LIFT THIS MORNING. HAVE KEPT THOSE CLOUDS THROUGH MUCH OF THE MORNING WITHIN THE FORECAST...AS WELL AS ACCOUNTED FOR SOME SCATTERED/BROKEN CLOUDS ACROSS NORTHWEST IN. OUTSIDE OF THESE AREAS...A MOSTLY SUNNY SKY IS EXPECTED WITH THE MAIN STRATUS/STRATOCU REMAINING WEST AND SOUTH OF THE AREA. HIGHS ARE EXPECTED AROUND FIVE TO SEVEN DEGREES WARMER THAN YESTERDAY. THE CLOUDS...AS WELL AS SOME FOG...BECOME A CONCERN FOR TONIGHT AS RETURN FLOW JUST ABOVE THE INVERSION WILL HELP TO ADVECT WHAT IS LEFT OF THE CLOUDS TO OUR WEST. EVEN IF NONE IS LEFT...THE NAM 925/950MB SURFACES POINT TOWARDS SATURATION...AS DOES THE SPC 4KM WRF COLUMN CONDENSATE PRODUCT...WHICH HAS HANDLED THE LOW CLOUDS THIS MORNING THE BEST OF ANY SHORT TERM MODEL. SO HAVE INCREASED SKY COVER SOME TONIGHT AS WELL AS ADD PATCHY FOG WHERE THE WINDS WILL BE THE LIGHTEST...GENERALLY SOUTH AND SOUTHEAST OF CHICAGO. THANKSGIVING AND FRIDAY...THE POSSIBILITY OF CLOUDS AND AT LEAST THE INFERENCE OF MORE LIMITED MIXING HAS LED TO FORECAST HIGHS ON THE HOLIDAY TO BE INCHED DOWN A COUPLE DEGREES. SEVERAL MODELS HAVE SHOWN THAT TREND AS WELL. MIX DOWN FROM 950 MB /WHICH MAY EVEN BE A LITTLE DEEP/ SUPPORTS TEMPERATURES IN THE MID 50S. THE WINDS WILL STAY UP THU NIGHT KEEPING TEMPERATURES ABOUT TEN DEGREES WARMER THAN TONIGHT. FRIDAY WILL BE BREEZY WITH THE LOW- LEVEL THERMAL RIDGE OF 10C AT 925 MB OVERRIDING THE AREA. WHILE NO LOWER CLOUDS ARE EXPECTED DURING THE DAY...CIRRUS IS PROBABLE ESPECIALLY ACROSS FAR NORTHERN IL AS SHOWN BY SIMULATED WATER VAPOR AND UPPER LEVEL RH FIELDS ON THE NAM. HAVE BLENDED MIXING TO 940 MB FROM THE NAM WITH THE GOING FORECAST AS WELL AS THE BIAS CORRECTED GUIDANCE WHICH HAS DONE WELL DURING THE WARMER DAYS. FOR SOME MORE THOUGHTS ON FRIDAY TEMPERATURES...SEE THE CLIMATE DISCUSSION BELOW. THIS WEEKEND AND EARLY NEXT WEEK...THE MODEL GUIDANCE CONTINUES TO SHOW LARGE DIFFERENCES IN THE LONG RANGE...ESPECIALLY FROM RUN TO RUN OF EACH OF THE MODELS. LOW PRESSURE IS EXPECTED TO MOVE EAST NORTHEAST ACROSS THE GREAT LAKES DURING SATURDAY...DRAGGING A CANADIAN AIR MASS SOUTH SOUTHEAST INTO THE MIDDLE OF THE COUNTRY FLOODING OUR AREA SATURDAY NIGHT. CONVERGENCE ALONG THE FRONT IS STRONG AND THE MOISTURE RETURN AHEAD OF IT IS NARROW BUT FOCUSED DURING SATURDAY. CAN ENVISION WITH SUCH A FEATURE AND ORIENTATION THAT AREAS OF SHOWERS WILL BE STREAMING NORTH NORTHEAST ALONG AND IMMEDIATELY AHEAD OF THE FRONTAL BOUNDARY. MUCH OF FRIDAY NIGHT MAY NOT ACTUALLY SEE MUCH FOR RAIN HERE GIVEN STILL WELL AHEAD OF THE FRONT...AND THE 23.00 EC CONTINUED THAT TREND. SO REALLY BACKED OFF ON POPS PRIOR TO MIDNIGHT IN CHICAGO AND AREAS SOUTH. HAVE HIGHEST POPS DURING THE DAY SATURDAY STILL. THE UPPER TROUGH IS EXPECTED TO PROGRESS SOUTHEAST WITH THE UPPER JET...AND FOR MOST OF THE PAST MODEL RUNS OF THE GFS/EC A CUTOFF IS EXPECTED. THE TREND HAS BEEN FOR THIS TO HAPPEN IN THE OHIO/TN RIVER VALLEY AREA EARLY NEXT WEEK...WITH SOME RETROGRADING/PROGRESSION TO THE NNW. A CONTINUED ACTIVE NORTHERN STREAM JET MAY ALSO PROVIDE ENERGY TO ENHANCE CLOUDS AND SHOWER CHANCES THROUGH THIS PERIOD. HAVE CONTINUED TO PREFER A MODEL BLEND WITH THE GOING FORECAST FOR MOST SENSIBLE WEATHER ELEMENTS...AND IN GENERAL THAT SOLUTION LOOKS FINE. PROFILES BEGIN TO FAVOR A MIX OR JUST MORE SNOW SHOWERS BY SUNDAY...AND THEN AGAIN TUESDAY. THERE ALSO IS SUPPORT IN THE LOW-LEVEL LAPSE RATES/MOISTURE/CONVERGENCE FOR LAKE ENHANCED SHOWERS INTO NORTHWEST IN ON SUNDAY AND SUNDAY EVENING AND HAVE GONE ABOVE BLENDED POPS FOR THAT AREA. AT THIS TIME...IT LOOKS TO BE MORE OF RAIN SHOWER/MIX IN NORTHWEST IN. && .CLIMATE... 238 AM CST WHILE THE GOING FORECAST IS COOLER FOR THANKSGIVING DAY...THE HIGH TEMPERATURE FORECAST OF 55 FOR CHICAGO /ORD/ AND ROCKFORD WOULD PLACE THIS AS THE NINTH WARMEST THANKSGIVING ON RECORD FOR BOTH SITES. THOUGH FRIDAY IS BECOMING INCREASINGLY LIKELY TO SEE 60 REACHED IN THE FORECAST AREA /ESPECIALLY SOUTH OF I-80/...RECORD HIGHS FOR LONG TERM CLIMATE SITES LOOK OUT OF REACH. THOSE RECORDS FOR NOVEMBER 25TH ARE 65 IN 2008 FOR ORD...AND 64 IN 1915 FOR RFD. INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH...LOOKING BACK AT THE TOP FOUR MATCHING LOW- LEVEL ANALOGS FROM THE CIPS ANALOG PAGE COMPARED TO THE 60 HOUR FORECAST FROM THE 23.00 GFS...THE HIGHS AT ORD AVERAGED 59 DEGREES WHICH IS RIGHT AT THE GOING FORECAST. THAT IS 15 DEGREES ABOVE NORMAL. MTF && .AVIATION... //ORD AND MDW CONCERNS...UPDATED 10Z... * FOG/LOW CLOUD POTENTIAL THROUGH MID MORNING WITH LIFR/VLIFR VIS/CIGS POSSIBLE. CMS //DISCUSSION...UPDATED 10Z... LOW CLOUDS AND FOG OVER EASTERN WI HAVE SLOWED THEIR PUSH SOUTH BUT ARE NEARING THE WI/IL BORDER. WHAT APPEARS TO BE LOW CLOUDS HAVE ALSO EXPANDED OVER THE WESTERN HALF OF LAKE MICHIGAN AND ARE PUSHING SOUTH INTO NORTHWEST INDIANA. CONFIDENCE REGARDING TRENDS/ EXPECTATIONS THROUGH THE MORNING HRS IS RATHER LOW AND WITH THIS UPDATE...OPTED TO JUST TWEAK TIMING AS THESE LOWER CONDITIONS MAY STILL IMPACT SOME OF THE TERMINALS THIS MORNING. WITH DIMINISHING WINDS AND VERY MOIST LOW LEVELS...COULD SEE ADDITIONAL LOW CIGS AND LOWER VIS IN FOG DEVELOP ELSEWHERE. CMS PREVIOUS 06Z DISCUSSION... MAIN CONCERNS TONIGHT CONTINUE TO FOCUS ON POSSIBLE FOG DEVELOPMENT ACROSS THE REGION. A SURFACE RIDGE OF HIGH PRESSURE CURRENTLY BUILDING EAST ACROSS IOWA...IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE BUILDING EASTWARD ACROSS PORTIONS OF NORTHERN ILLINOIS LATER TONIGHT. THE LATEST SATELLITE IMAGERY SHOWS TONG OF CLEARING SKIES ACROSS EASTERN IOWA AND FAR NORTHWESTERN ILLINOIS. VISIBILITIES ARE ALREADY BEGINNING TO TANK ACROSS THESE AREAS AS FOG DEVELOPS. I AM EXPECTING THIS CLEARING LINE TO PROGRESS EASTWARD OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL HOURS. A SIMPLE TIME OF ARRIVAL TOOL IN AWIPS INDICATES THAT THIS CLEARING LINE SHOULD BE APPROACHING KRFD AROUND 06 UTC AND THE NORTHEASTERN ILLINOIS TERMINALS AROUND 08 TO 09 UTC. THIS SHOULD HELP THE FOG DEVELOPMENT TO CONTINUE EASTWARD ACROSS PORTIONS OF NORTHERN ILLINOIS AND SOUTHERN WISCONSIN. THE BIG QUESTION MARK THAT REMAINS IS WILL THIS FOG MAKE IT ALL THE WAY TO EAST TO KORD AND KMDW BY EARLY MORNING. UNCERTAINTIES REMAIN REGARDING THE EASTWARD EXTENT OF THE FOG. HOWEVER...I WILL CONTINUE TO MENTION THE POTENTIAL OF SOME IFR VISIBILITIES EARLY WEDNESDAY MORNING ACROSS THE NORTHEASTERN ILLINOIS TERMINALS. THE AREA JUST EXPERIENCED SOME RAINFALL AND DEW POINT DEPRESSIONS REMAIN LOW...SO IT SHOULD NOT TAKE TO MUCH TO GET VISIBILITIES TO DROP. ANY FOG THAT DOES DEVELOP MAY BE SLOW TO BURN OFF WEDNESDAY MORNING WITH LIMITED ATMOSPHERIC MIXING. THEREFORE...SOME LOWER VISIBILITIES MAY PERSIST THROUGH MID MORNING. CONDITIONS WILL IMPROVE DURING THE AFTERNOON WITH LIGHT SOUTHWESTERLY FLOW AND VFR CONDITIONS EXPECTED. HOWEVER...IT APPEARS THAT MORE FOG DEVELOPMENT MAY OCCUR AGAIN LATER WEDNESDAY NIGHT AS WIND REMAIN LIGHT AND LOW LEVEL MOISTURE REMAINS ELEVATED. THIS WILL HAVE TO BE WATCHED FOR POSSIBLE INCLUSION IN FUTURE TAF FORECASTS. KJB //ORD AND MDW CONFIDENCE...UPDATED 10Z... * LOW CONFIDENCE REGARDING FOG/LOW CIGS DEVELOPING ACROSS ORD/MDW THIS MORNING AND LOW CONFIDENCE ON TIMING AND SPECIFIC CIG/VIS VALUES. CMS //OUTLOOK FOR ORD/MDW FOR 12Z THURSDAY-12Z TUESDAY...UPDATED 00Z... THURSDAY...VFR. FRIDAY...VFR. BREEZY WITH SOUTH WINDS GUSTING 20-25KTS. SATURDAY...RAIN LIKELY. MVFR LIKELY WITH IFR POSSIBLE. SUNDAY AND MONDAY...MVFR POSSIBLE WITH SCATTERED SHRA AND POSSIBLY SHSN. KJB && .MARINE... 300 AM CST WITH LOW PRESSURE QUICKLY SHIFTING EAST OF THE LAKE THIS MORNING AND HIGH PRESSURE SLOWLY BUILDING EAST THROUGH THE UPPER MIDWEST...WINDS HAVE BEEN DIMINISHING ACROSS THE LAKE. WINDS WILL CONTINUE TO DIMINISH AS THIS HIGH SHIFTS EAST TODAY WITH A BRIEF PERIOD OF LIGHTER FLOW. ALTHOUGH WITH THIS HIGH CONTINUING TO THE EAST TONIGHT...A FAIRLY ACTIVE SURFACE PATTERN WILL BE IN PLACE TO THE NORTHWEST OF THE GREAT LAKES. THIS WILL PROVIDE A STRENGTHENING PRESSURE GRADIENT OVER THE LAKE WITH WINDS INCREASING ONCE AGAIN. THIS INCREASE IN WINDS WILL INITIALLY OCCUR OVER THE NORTHERN HALF OF THE LAKE BUT WITH WINDS EVENTUALLY INCREASING OVER THE SOUTHERN HALF LAKE TONIGHT INTO THURSDAY. WITH THIS HIGH REMAINING TO THE SOUTHEAST OF THE LAKE AND THIS ACTIVE SURFACE PATTERN TO THE NORTHWEST...A PERIOD OF STRONG SOUTHERLY FLOW WILL BE IN PLACE THROUGH THE END OF THE WORK WEEK. ALTHOUGH THIS WEATHER PATTERN WILL SUPPORT STRENGTHENING WINDS INTO FRIDAY...A WARMER AIR MASS WILL MOVE ACROSS THE LAKE. THIS COULD PROVIDE MORE STABLE CONDITIONS AND THUS LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF STRONGER WINDS ALOFT TO REACH THE SURFACE OF THE LAKE. HAVE KEPT WINDS JUST BELOW GALES THURSDAY NIGHT INTO FRIDAY DUE TO THIS WARMER AIR...BUT WILL HAVE TO CONTINUE TO MONITOR LATER GUIDANCE TO ASSESS THE POSSIBILITY OF THESE STRONGER WINDS ALOFT TO REACH THE SURFACE OF THE LAKE. RODRIGUEZ && .LOT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... IL...NONE. IN...NONE. LM...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY...NEARSHORE WILMETTE HARBOR TO MICHIGAN CITY IN UNTIL 9 AM WEDNESDAY. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS CHICAGO/ROMEOVILLE IL
341 AM CST WED NOV 23 2011 .DISCUSSION... 340 AM CST AFTER A GLOOMY TUESDAY...GENERALLY TRANQUIL WEATHER WILL BE SEEN FOR MUCH OF THE NEXT 60 HOURS TO THE JOY OF HOLIDAY TRAVELERS AND SHOPPERS. THE CHALLENGES IN THE FORECAST FOR THE NEXT THREE DAYS ARE STRATUS/FOG EARLY THIS MORNING AND AGAIN FOR THANKSGIVING MORNING AND ITS ASSOCIATED IMPACTS ON TEMPERATURES. THEN THE FOCUS TURNS TO THIS WEEKEND INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK WITH COOLER AIR AND SNOW CHANCES. SYNOPSIS...THE SYSTEM THAT BROUGHT THE RAIN YESTERDAY IS NOW EXITING THE PICTURE ACROSS THE NORTHEAST. THE BACK END OF THE PRIMARY CLOUD SHIELD WILL MOVE OUT OF THE CWA BY MID-MORNING. LINGERING LOW-LEVEL MOISTURE UNDER A SUBSIDENCE INVERSION AND INCOMING SURFACE RIDGING HAS ALLOWED FOR EXPANSIVE STRATUS FROM MN/WESTERN WI SOUTH THROUGH THE LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY. IN ADDITION...SOME STRATUS/FOG IS OOZING ITS WAY SOUTH ALONG THE WEST SHORE OF LAKE MI. SIMILAR STRATUS MAY TRY TO DEVELOP UNTIL MID- MORNING AS THE PRIMARY SYNOPTIC CLOUD SHIELD EXITS ACROSS NORTHWEST IN. LIGHT FOG IS SEEN IN THE CLEAR AREAS...PRESUMABLY NOT HAVING BECOME MUCH WORSE DUE TO A LIGHT WIND COMPONENT. TODAY AND TONIGHT...THE STRATUS CREEPING INTO THE NORTHERN CHICAGO METRO IS NOT HANDLED WELL BY MOST OF THE MODELS...WHICH CAN BE EXPECTED WITH SUCH A SMALL SCALE FEATURE. THE RUC AND NAM PROFILES FOR ORD...WHILE NOT FULLY SATURATING IN THE LOW LAYERS...SHOW THE INVERSION VERY SLOW TO LIFT THIS MORNING. HAVE KEPT THOSE CLOUDS THROUGH MUCH OF THE MORNING WITHIN THE FORECAST...AS WELL AS ACCOUNTED FOR SOME SCATTERED/BROKEN CLOUDS ACROSS NORTHWEST IN. OUTSIDE OF THESE AREAS...A MOSTLY SUNNY SKY IS EXPECTED WITH THE MAIN STRATUS/STRATOCU REMAINING WEST AND SOUTH OF THE AREA. HIGHS ARE EXPECTED AROUND FIVE TO SEVEN DEGREES WARMER THAN YESTERDAY. THE CLOUDS...AS WELL AS SOME FOG...BECOME A CONCERN FOR TONIGHT AS RETURN FLOW JUST ABOVE THE INVERSION WILL HELP TO ADVECT WHAT IS LEFT OF THE CLOUDS TO OUR WEST. EVEN IF NONE IS LEFT...THE NAM 925/950MB SURFACES POINT TOWARDS SATURATION...AS DOES THE SPC 4KM WRF COLUMN CONDENSATE PRODUCT...WHICH HAS HANDLED THE LOW CLOUDS THIS MORNING THE BEST OF ANY SHORT TERM MODEL. SO HAVE INCREASED SKY COVER SOME TONIGHT AS WELL AS ADD PATCHY FOG WHERE THE WINDS WILL BE THE LIGHTEST...GENERALLY SOUTH AND SOUTHEAST OF CHICAGO. THANKSGIVING AND FRIDAY...THE POSSIBILITY OF CLOUDS AND AT LEAST THE INFERENCE OF MORE LIMITED MIXING HAS LED TO FORECAST HIGHS ON THE HOLIDAY TO BE INCHED DOWN A COUPLE DEGREES. SEVERAL MODELS HAVE SHOWN THAT TREND AS WELL. MIX DOWN FROM 950 MB /WHICH MAY EVEN BE A LITTLE DEEP/ SUPPORTS TEMPERATURES IN THE MID 50S. THE WINDS WILL STAY UP THU NIGHT KEEPING TEMPERATURES ABOUT TEN DEGREES WARMER THAN TONIGHT. FRIDAY WILL BE BREEZY WITH THE LOW- LEVEL THERMAL RIDGE OF 10C AT 925 MB OVERRIDING THE AREA. WHILE NO LOWER CLOUDS ARE EXPECTED DURING THE DAY...CIRRUS IS PROBABLE ESPECIALLY ACROSS FAR NORTHERN IL AS SHOWN BY SIMULATED WATER VAPOR AND UPPER LEVEL RH FIELDS ON THE NAM. HAVE BLENDED MIXING TO 940 MB FROM THE NAM WITH THE GOING FORECAST AS WELL AS THE BIAS CORRECTED GUIDANCE WHICH HAS DONE WELL DURING THE WARMER DAYS. FOR SOME MORE THOUGHTS ON FRIDAY TEMPERATURES...SEE THE CLIMATE DISCUSSION BELOW. THIS WEEKEND AND EARLY NEXT WEEK...THE MODEL GUIDANCE CONTINUES TO SHOW LARGE DIFFERENCES IN THE LONG RANGE...ESPECIALLY FROM RUN TO RUN OF EACH OF THE MODELS. LOW PRESSURE IS EXPECTED TO MOVE EAST NORTHEAST ACROSS THE GREAT LAKES DURING SATURDAY...DRAGGING A CANADIAN AIR MASS SOUTH SOUTHEAST INTO THE MIDDLE OF THE COUNTRY FLOODING OUR AREA SATURDAY NIGHT. CONVERGENCE ALONG THE FRONT IS STRONG AND THE MOISTURE RETURN AHEAD OF IT IS NARROW BUT FOCUSED DURING SATURDAY. CAN ENVISION WITH SUCH A FEATURE AND ORIENTATION THAT AREAS OF SHOWERS WILL BE STREAMING NORTH NORTHEAST ALONG AND IMMEDIATELY AHEAD OF THE FRONTAL BOUNDARY. MUCH OF FRIDAY NIGHT MAY NOT ACTUALLY SEE MUCH FOR RAIN HERE GIVEN STILL WELL AHEAD OF THE FRONT...AND THE 23.00 EC CONTINUED THAT TREND. SO REALLY BACKED OFF ON POPS PRIOR TO MIDNIGHT IN CHICAGO AND AREAS SOUTH. HAVE HIGHEST POPS DURING THE DAY SATURDAY STILL. THE UPPER TROUGH IS EXPECTED TO PROGRESS SOUTHEAST WITH THE UPPER JET...AND FOR MOST OF THE PAST MODEL RUNS OF THE GFS/EC A CUTOFF IS EXPECTED. THE TREND HAS BEEN FOR THIS TO HAPPEN IN THE OHIO/TN RIVER VALLEY AREA EARLY NEXT WEEK...WITH SOME RETROGRADING/PROGRESSION TO THE NNW. A CONTINUED ACTIVE NORTHERN STREAM JET MAY ALSO PROVIDE ENERGY TO ENHANCE CLOUDS AND SHOWER CHANCES THROUGH THIS PERIOD. HAVE CONTINUED TO PREFER A MODEL BLEND WITH THE GOING FORECAST FOR MOST SENSIBLE WEATHER ELEMENTS...AND IN GENERAL THAT SOLUTION LOOKS FINE. PROFILES BEGIN TO FAVOR A MIX OR JUST MORE SNOW SHOWERS BY SUNDAY...AND THEN AGAIN TUESDAY. THERE ALSO IS SUPPORT IN THE LOW-LEVEL LAPSE RATES/MOISTURE/CONVERGENCE FOR LAKE ENHANCED SHOWERS INTO NORTHWEST IN ON SUNDAY AND SUNDAY EVENING AND HAVE GONE ABOVE BLENDED POPS FOR THAT AREA. AT THIS TIME...IT LOOKS TO BE MORE OF RAIN SHOWER/MIX IN NORTHWEST IN. && .CLIMATE... 238 AM CST WHILE THE GOING FORECAST IS COOLER FOR THANKSGIVING DAY...THE HIGH TEMPERATURE FORECAST OF 55 FOR CHICAGO /ORD/ AND ROCKFORD WOULD PLACE THIS AS THE NINTH WARMEST THANKSGIVING ON RECORD FOR BOTH SITES. THOUGH FRIDAY IS BECOMING INCREASINGLY LIKELY TO SEE 60 REACHED IN THE FORECAST AREA /ESPECIALLY SOUTH OF I-80/...RECORD HIGHS FOR LONG TERM CLIMATE SITES LOOK OUT OF REACH. THOSE RECORDS FOR NOVEMBER 25TH ARE 65 IN 2008 FOR ORD...AND 64 IN 1915 FOR RFD. INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH...LOOKING BACK AT THE TOP FOUR MATCHING LOW- LEVEL ANALOGS FROM THE CIPS ANALOG PAGE COMPARED TO THE 60 HOUR FORECAST FROM THE 23.00 GFS...THE HIGHS AT ORD AVERAGED 59 DEGREES WHICH IS RIGHT AT THE GOING FORECAST. THAT IS 15 DEGREES ABOVE NORMAL. MTF && .AVIATION... //ORD AND MDW CONCERNS...UPDATED 08Z... * FOG POTENTIAL THROUGH MID MORNING WITH LIFR/VLIFR VIS/CIGS. CMS //DISCUSSION...UPDATED 08Z... NO SIGNIFICANT CHANGES TO THE TAFS WITH THIS UPDATE. ATTENTION IS ON AN AREA OF EXPANDING CIGS BETWEEN 200-500 FT ACROSS MUCH OF EASTERN WI...WHICH IS SLOWLY EXPANDING AND MOVING SOUTH. IF IT MAINTAINS ITS CURRENT SPEED...IT WOULD ARRIVE AFTER THE CURRENT 11Z START TIME IN THE TEMPO BUT IT COULD CONTINUE TO EXPAND. A LATER ARRIVAL WOULD LIKELY LEAD TO ADDITIONAL LIFR/IFR CONDITIONS FURTHER INTO THE MORNING HRS BUT NOT ENOUGH CONFIDENCE TO MAKE LARGE CHANGES JUST YET. VISIBILITIES ALSO IN THE 1/2SM TO 2SM RANGE. CMS PREVIOUS 06Z DISCUSSION... MAIN CONCERNS TONIGHT CONTINUE TO FOCUS ON POSSIBLE FOG DEVELOPMENT ACROSS THE REGION. A SURFACE RIDGE OF HIGH PRESSURE CURRENTLY BUILDING EAST ACROSS IOWA...IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE BUILDING EASTWARD ACROSS PORTIONS OF NORTHERN ILLINOIS LATER TONIGHT. THE LATEST SATELLITE IMAGERY SHOWS TONG OF CLEARING SKIES ACROSS EASTERN IOWA AND FAR NORTHWESTERN ILLINOIS. VISIBILITIES ARE ALREADY BEGINNING TO TANK ACROSS THESE AREAS AS FOG DEVELOPS. I AM EXPECTING THIS CLEARING LINE TO PROGRESS EASTWARD OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL HOURS. A SIMPLE TIME OF ARRIVAL TOOL IN AWIPS INDICATES THAT THIS CLEARING LINE SHOULD BE APPROACHING KRFD AROUND 06 UTC AND THE NORTHEASTERN ILLINOIS TERMINALS AROUND 08 TO 09 UTC. THIS SHOULD HELP THE FOG DEVELOPMENT TO CONTINUE EASTWARD ACROSS PORTIONS OF NORTHERN ILLINOIS AND SOUTHERN WISCONSIN. THE BIG QUESTION MARK THAT REMAINS IS WILL THIS FOG MAKE IT ALL THE WAY TO EAST TO KORD AND KMDW BY EARLY MORNING. UNCERTAINTIES REMAIN REGARDING THE EASTWARD EXTENT OF THE FOG. HOWEVER...I WILL CONTINUE TO MENTION THE POTENTIAL OF SOME IFR VISIBILITIES EARLY WEDNESDAY MORNING ACROSS THE NORTHEASTERN ILLINOIS TERMINALS. THE AREA JUST EXPERIENCED SOME RAINFALL AND DEW POINT DEPRESSIONS REMAIN LOW...SO IT SHOULD NOT TAKE TO MUCH TO GET VISIBILITIES TO DROP. ANY FOG THAT DOES DEVELOP MAY BE SLOW TO BURN OFF WEDNESDAY MORNING WITH LIMITED ATMOSPHERIC MIXING. THEREFORE...SOME LOWER VISIBILITIES MAY PERSIST THROUGH MID MORNING. CONDITIONS WILL IMPROVE DURING THE AFTERNOON WITH LIGHT SOUTHWESTERLY FLOW AND VFR CONDITIONS EXPECTED. HOWEVER...IT APPEARS THAT MORE FOG DEVELOPMENT MAY OCCUR AGAIN LATER WEDNESDAY NIGHT AS WIND REMAIN LIGHT AND LOW LEVEL MOISTURE REMAINS ELEVATED. THIS WILL HAVE TO BE WATCHED FOR POSSIBLE INCLUSION IN FUTURE TAF FORECASTS. KJB //ORD AND MDW CONFIDENCE...UPDATED 08Z... * MEDIUM CONFIDENCE REGARDING FOG/LOW CIGS DEVELOPING ACROSS ORD/MDW THIS MORNING...LOW CONFIDENCE ON TIMING AND SPECIFIC CIG/VIS VALUES. CMS //OUTLOOK FOR ORD/MDW FOR 12Z THURSDAY-12Z TUESDAY...UPDATED 00Z... THURSDAY...VFR. FRIDAY...VFR. BREEZY WITH SOUTH WINDS GUSTING 20-25KTS. SATURDAY...RAIN LIKELY. MVFR LIKELY WITH IFR POSSIBLE. SUNDAY AND MONDAY...MVFR POSSIBLE WITH SCATTERED SHRA AND POSSIBLY SHSN. KJB && .MARINE... 300 AM CST WITH LOW PRESSURE QUICKLY SHIFTING EAST OF THE LAKE THIS MORNING AND HIGH PRESSURE SLOWLY BUILDING EAST THROUGH THE UPPER MIDWEST...WINDS HAVE BEEN DIMINISHING ACROSS THE LAKE. WINDS WILL CONTINUE TO DIMINISH AS THIS HIGH SHIFTS EAST TODAY WITH A BRIEF PERIOD OF LIGHTER FLOW. ALTHOUGH WITH THIS HIGH CONTINUING TO THE EAST TONIGHT...A FAIRLY ACTIVE SURFACE PATTERN WILL BE IN PLACE TO THE NORTHWEST OF THE GREAT LAKES. THIS WILL PROVIDE A STRENGTHENING PRESSURE GRADIENT OVER THE LAKE WITH WINDS INCREASING ONCE AGAIN. THIS INCREASE IN WINDS WILL INITIALLY OCCUR OVER THE NORTHERN HALF OF THE LAKE BUT WITH WINDS EVENTUALLY INCREASING OVER THE SOUTHERN HALF LAKE TONIGHT INTO THURSDAY. WITH THIS HIGH REMAINING TO THE SOUTHEAST OF THE LAKE AND THIS ACTIVE SURFACE PATTERN TO THE NORTHWEST...A PERIOD OF STRONG SOUTHERLY FLOW WILL BE IN PLACE THROUGH THE END OF THE WORK WEEK. ALTHOUGH THIS WEATHER PATTERN WILL SUPPORT STRENGTHENING WINDS INTO FRIDAY...A WARMER AIR MASS WILL MOVE ACROSS THE LAKE. THIS COULD PROVIDE MORE STABLE CONDITIONS AND THUS LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF STRONGER WINDS ALOFT TO REACH THE SURFACE OF THE LAKE. HAVE KEPT WINDS JUST BELOW GALES THURSDAY NIGHT INTO FRIDAY DUE TO THIS WARMER AIR...BUT WILL HAVE TO CONTINUE TO MONITOR LATER GUIDANCE TO ASSESS THE POSSIBILITY OF THESE STRONGER WINDS ALOFT TO REACH THE SURFACE OF THE LAKE. RODRIGUEZ && .LOT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... IL...NONE. IN...NONE. LM...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY...NEARSHORE WATERS UNTIL 9 AM WEDNESDAY. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS LINCOLN IL
245 AM CST WED NOV 23 2011 .DISCUSSION... ISSUED 245 AM CST WED NOV 23 2011 LAST OF THE SHOWERS WITH THE RECENT SYSTEM MOVED OUT OF THE NORTHEAST CWA A COUPLE HOURS AGO. LOW STRATUS DECK CONTINUES OVER MUCH OF THE AREA...BUT A LARGE CLEAR AREA HAS BEEN MOVING SOUTHEAST...AND IS CREEPING INTO THE FAR NORTHWEST. THE PRIMARY CONCERN IN THE SHORT TERM IS WITH THE TIMING OF THIS CLEARING AREA. IN THE LONGER TERM...THE COLD FRONT PASSAGE THIS WEEKEND...AND THE POTENTIAL FOR LINGERING PRECIPITATION EARLY NEXT WEEK...IS THE MAIN FOCUS. SHORT TERM...TODAY THROUGH FRIDAY... CURRENT EXTENT OF STRATUS DECK SEEMS TO LINE UP REASONABLY WELL WITH THE RUC 950 MB HUMIDITY AND CONDENSATION PRESSURE DEFICIT ANALYSES. THIS WOULD INDICATE ANY CLEARING ACROSS THE FAR WEST WOULD BE SOMEWHAT TEMPORARY EARLY THIS MORNING...WITH THE CORE OF THE STEADIER CLEARING TREND OVERSPREADING THE CENTRAL AND NORTHEAST CWA. WILL KEEP THE WESTERN CWA FAIRLY CLOUDY UNTIL ABOUT MID AFTERNOON...WHERE LOW LEVEL INVERSION DOES NOT REALLY BREAK UNTIL AFTER MIDDAY...AND THUS HIGH TEMPERATURES IN THIS AREA WILL LIKELY STRUGGLE TO REACH 50 DEGREES TODAY. HIGH PRESSURE AXIS...CURRENTLY EXTENDING FROM TEXAS NORTHEAST TO NEAR MINNEAPOLIS...WILL SHIFT EASTWARD THROUGH TONIGHT AND BE JUST EAST OF OUR AREA THURSDAY MORNING. ONCE THE CURRENT CLOUDS FINALLY LEAVE...MOSTLY CLEAR SKIES SHOULD PREVAIL THROUGH FRIDAY. WENT A FEW DEGREES ABOVE MOS GUIDANCE FOR BOTH THANKSGIVING DAY AND FRIDAY. FRIDAY SHOULD BE THE WARMEST DAY...AS GUSTY SOUTHWEST WINDS AND PLENTY OF MIXING ALLOW TEMPERATURES TO RISE WELL INTO THE 60S OVER THE ENTIRE AREA. LONG TERM...SATURDAY THROUGH TUESDAY... TIMING OF INCOMING COLD FRONT ON SATURDAY CONTINUES TO SLOW A BIT. HAVE LIMITED POPS TO THE WESTERN CWA AFTER MIDNIGHT FRIDAY NIGHT...BUT CONTINUED WITH LIKELIES EVERYWHERE ON SATURDAY. LATEST INDICATIONS GENERALLY HAVE THE FRONT ITSELF EAST OF THE CWA BY LATE SATURDAY EVENING. MEDIUM RANGE MODELS STILL STRUGGLING SOME WITH THE DEEPENING OF THE UPPER TROUGH LATER THIS WEEKEND. THE GFS AND ECMWF ARE FAIRLY SIMILAR WITH CUTTING OFF A LOW IN THE TENNESSEE VALLEY SUNDAY NIGHT...WHILE THE GEM FEATURES A MUCH MORE PROGRESSIVE FLOW AND CUTS OFF A LOW OVER SOUTHERN TEXAS. THE CONSISTENCY AMONG THE MODELS THE LAST FEW DAYS...ESPECIALLY THE ECMWF...HAS BEEN UNDERWHELMING...SO AM NOT QUITE READY TO DRY THINGS OUT EARLY NEXT WEEK. WILL LARGELY KEEP THINGS IN THE SLIGHT CHANCE CATEGORY... EXCEPT ACROSS THE EASTERN CWA WHERE MORE OF THE CUTOFF LOW EFFECT IS POSSIBLE. TEMPERATURES WILL BE COLD ENOUGH THAT RAIN OR SNOW WILL BE POSSIBLE WITH ANY PRECIPITATION THAT DOES OCCUR. GEELHART && .AVIATION... ISSUED 1120 PM CST TUE NOV 22 2011 STILL TRACKING THE CLEARING LINE SLOWLY MOVING SOUTHEAST INTO NORTHWEST ILLINOIS FROM IOWA THIS EVENING. BASED ON SATELLITE LOOP...THIS CLEARING LINE SHOULD REACH PIA AROUND 0915Z...SPI AND BMI AROUND 1130Z...AND DEC AND CMI AFTER SUNRISE. SO THINKING IS THAT PIA IS ONLY SITE THAT WILL SEE SIGNIFICANT FOG IN MORNING...THOUGH NOT DENSE. SPI AND BMI WILL HAVE SOME FOG IN MORNING...BUT NOT AS LOW AS PIA. DEC AND CMI WILL LIKELY NOT HAVE ANY FOG IN MORNING. BELIEVE REST OF TAF PERIOD AT ALL SITES WILL SEE SOME HIGH CIRRUS TO CLEAR TOMORROW NIGHT. SO IFR CIGS TO START AT MOST LOCATIONS...EXCEPT FOR PIA...WHICH IS ALREADY MVFR. THEN BECOMING VFR TOMORROW MORNING AND CONTINUING THROUGH TOMORROW NIGHT. NORTHWEST WINDS WILL CONTINUE OVERNIGHT AND DECREASE IN SPEED TIL MORNING. THEN LIGHT WEST DURING THE AFTERNOON AND BECOMING LIGHT SOUTHWEST TOMORROW EVENING. AUTEN && .ILX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... NONE. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS NORTHERN INDIANA
756 PM EST THU NOV 24 2011 .UPDATE... EVENING UPDATE SENT MAINLY TO ACCOUNT FOR SOME MINOR TWEAKS TO SKY COVER. DIMINISHING LOW CLOUD TREND HAS REACHED NORTHERN SECTIONS OF THE FORECAST AREA...ALTHOUGH CONFIDENCE IN DURATION OF THIS CLEARING IS LOW. ALREADY BEGINNING TO SEE SOME SIGNS IN SATELLITE IMAGERY OF NORTHWARD EXPANDING/ADVECTING STRATUS DECK FROM SOUTHERN ILLINOIS INTO SOUTH CENTRAL INDIANA. LITTLE OVERALL CHANGE NOTED IN THERMAL/MOISTURE PROFILES FROM THIS MORNING WITH MAIN DIFFERENCE LATER TONIGHT BEING STRENGTHENING LOW LEVEL WARM ADVECTION WITH INCREASING SOUTHWESTERLY FLOW TONIGHT. DIFFICULTY IN FORECAST TONIGHT IS TRYING TO WEIGH COMPETING FACTORS FOR STRATUS REDEVELOPMENT. LOW LEVEL WARM ADVECTION WILL LIKELY SERVE TO ONLY SHARPEN AN ALREADY STRONG LOW LEVEL INVERSION THAT HAS BEEN ABLE TO TRAP A THIN LAYER OF MOISTURE IN OVER THE PAST 24 HOURS. HOWEVER...THIS WARM ADVECTION MAY MAKE LOW LEVEL SATURATION INCREASINGLY HARD TO COME BY LATER TONIGHT. BASED ON CURRENT SATELLITE TRENDS TO THE SOUTH...WILL CONTINUE TO HEDGE THIS FORECAST MORE TOWARD THE SIDE OF LOW CLOUD REDEVELOPMENT OVERNIGHT. THIS IDEA ALSO GENERALLY SUPPORTED IN LOW LEVEL RH PROGS FROM RUC/NAM. ONLY TWEAK TO FORECAST WAS TO DIMINISH SKY COVER THIS EVENING...AND TO INDICATE INCREASING CLOUD TREND LATE EVENING AND OVERNIGHT. IT STILL APPEARS AS THOUGH ANY LINGERING LOW CLOUDS SHOULD FINALLY MIX OUT AND ERODE BY MID MORNING FRIDAY. TEMPERATURES STILL LOOK TO BE ON TRACK WITH LIMITED DIURNAL RANGE BASED ON EXPECTATION OF LOW CLOUD REDEVELOPMENT...WARM ADVECTION...AND A MODEST SFC PRESSURE GRADIENT BEING MAINTAINED OVERNIGHT. && .PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 627 PM EST THU NOV 24 2011/ AVIATION... 00Z TAFS...MAIN AVIATION FORECAST QUESTION WILL CONTINUE TO CENTER ON POTENTIAL OF IFR/MVFR CIGS TO REDEVELOP TONIGHT. CLEARING TREND FROM SOUTH TO NORTH PER SATELLITE IMAGERY/SFC OBS NOTED LATE AFTERNOON INTO EARLY EVENING...WITH RECENT KSBN OBSERVATIONS EVEN SCATTERING MVFR DECK. DIURNAL COOLING AND PERSISTENCE OF AN EXTREMELY STRONG LOW LEVEL INVERSION WILL ONCE AGAIN POSE THE CONCERN OF STRATUS REDEVELOPMENT TONIGHT. ALREADY BEGINNING TO SEE AREA OF STRATUS FROM SOUTHERN ILLINOIS INTO SOUTH CENTRAL INDIANA SLOWLY BEGINNING TO CREEP BACK NORTHWARD AND WOULD SUSPECT THIS TREND WILL CONTINUE THROUGH THE REMAINDER OF THE EVENING. AFTER VFR CONDITIONS FOR SEVERAL HOURS THIS EVENING...DID MAINTAIN TREND BACK TO HIGHER END IFR OR LOWER END MVFR CIGS FOR THE LATE EVENING AND OVERNIGHT HOURS. MORE IMPRESSIVE LOW LEVEL FLOW AND WARM ADVECTION ANTICIPATED BY MORNING WHICH SHOULD ALLOW FOR MORE EFFICIENT MIXING OF THIS VERY THIN MOISTURE LAYER. FORECAST CONFIDENCE IN THE ABOVE SCENARIO REGARDING STRATUS REDEVELOPMENT REMAINS RELATIVELY LOW...BUT WITH LITTLE CHANGE IN THERMAL/MOISTURE PROFILES...SEE NO REASON TO DEVIATE FROM PESSIMISTIC TREND AT THIS TIME. WITH LOW CLOUDS ERODING...MIXING SHOULD BE MORE EFFICIENT FRIDAY WITH SOUTH GUSTS TO 20 TO 25 KNOTS IN THE LATE MORNING AND AFTERNOON. && PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 352 PM EST THU NOV 24 2011/ SHORT TERM... TONIGHT THROUGH FRIDAY NIGHT BROAD SW UPPER FLOW REMAINS IN PLACE OVER THE REGION WITH SFC PRESSURE FALLS CONTINUING OVER THE UPPER MIDWEST IN RESPONSE TO A PROGRESSING NORTHERN STREAM TROUGH. A STAUNCH INVERSION REMAINS IN PLACE PER A SIG WAA REGIME...WITH TRAPPED MOISTURE IN THE BL. INSOLATION AND ENSUED MIXING PROCESSES ARE WORKING TO BREAK THE PERSISTENT CLOUD DECK UP...AND SOME SUN WILL BE POSSIBLE IN AREAS THIS AFTERNOON. HOWEVER...DIURNAL BL COOLING WILL LIKELY SUPPORT RE-SATURATION WITH THE CLOUD LAYER FILLING BACK IN...THIS BEING THE MAIN FORECAST CHALLENGE. TEMPS HAVE STRUGGLED TO RISE ACROSS THE FA GIVEN CLOUD COVER...BUT POSITIVE THERMAL ADVECTION HAS ALLOWED FOR SOME RECOVERY AS LL WIND INCREASES PER HIGHER LATITUDE PRESSURE FALLS. SYNOPTIC EVOLUTION IN THE PERIOD WILL FEATURE CENTRAL PLAINS PHASING OF THE PAC NW AND SW CONUS UPPER TROUGHS...WITH A WAA REGIME CONTINUING THROUGH THE PERIOD AHEAD OF THE LL TROUGH REFLECTION. HEIGHT RISES COMBINED WITH A DIRTY TYPE RIDGE RIDDLED WITH LOW AMPLITUDE IMPULSES WILL SUPPORT INCREASING CIRRUS ON FRIDAY. MUCH WARMER WEATHER IS IN STORE FRIDAY GIVEN A TREND TO MOSTLY SUNNY CONDITIONS AND WARM THERMAL FIELDS IN THE SFC TO H925 LAYER. RAOB AND TAMDAR ANALYSIS CONFIRM A SATURATED LAYER IN THE H975-H95 LAYER...WITH LOCAL CLOUD LAYER SOURCE BACK TRAJECTORY SAMPLING A LARGE PORTION OF THE STRATUS LAYER IN PLACE OVER THE LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY. BULK OF DRY AIR PUSH ASSOCIATED WITH REFLECTED LL FLOW WILL REMAIN NORTH OF THE REGION...WITH H975-H95 FLOW REMAINING SOUTHERLY OVERNIGHT. RUC13 AND NAM12 BOTH SUGGEST RE-SATURATION OF THIS LAYER...WHICH IS VERY REASONABLE GIVEN CLOUD LAYER TRAJECTORIES/A SHARP BL TOP INVERSION/AND AMPLE LL MOISTURE IN THE BL. HENCE...EXPECTING CLOUDS TO FILL BACK IN THIS EVENING. INCREASING NOCTURNAL LLJ AND ASSOCIATED TURBULENT MIX DOWN MAY SUPPORT SOME CLOUD BREAK UP LATE IN THE NIGHT...ESP ACROSS THE NORTHWEST WHERE H95 GEOSTROPHIC FLOW INCREASES TO OVER 35 KNOTS. CLOUD LAYER FLOW WILL VEER SW TOWARD DAWN AND HELP SUPPORT THE ADVECTION OF HIGH PLAINS SOURCE DRIER AIR...WITH CLEARING OF CIGS THROUGH LATE MORNING. PHASING UPPER TROUGH WITH SLOW EAST ADVECTION WILL DELAY ANY PRECIP CHANCES UNTIL SATURDAY GIVEN CONTINUED DRY DEEP LAYER FLOW WITH THE BULK OF ALL SYSTEM GENERATED ASCENT REMAINING WELL NORTH AND WEST OF THE REGION. NO SIG CHANGE TO TEMPS. CLOUDS AND MIXED LL FLOW WILL SUPPORT A RELATIVELY MILD NIGHT TONIGHT AND FRIDAY...WITH LOWS IN THE 40S...COOLEST READINGS TONIGHT. CLEARING LL STRATUS/WARM THERMAL FIELDS/AND GENEROUS MIXING WILL SUPPORT HIGHS INTO THE 50S...WITH SOME LOWER 60S POSSIBLE ACROSS THE SW THIRD FRIDAY. && LONG TERM... SATURDAY THROUGH THURSDAY. PRIMARY FOCUS ON DY3 PRECIP TIMING AND INTRO RASN MIX LATE SAT NIGHT TO PRIMARY FZN PTYPE ON SUN...IN LES REGN. LARGE DISCREPANCIES IN MID RANGE...HOWEVER FAVOR NAM/GFS/SREF DVLPG GRTLKS CUTOFF DY3 AS OPPOSED TO ECMWF/GEM TAKING FAR SRN DIXIE/GOMEX CUTOFF. GIVEN RAMPED NRN STREAM FLOW ACRS ENTIRE PACIFIC TO JAPAN GTE 150 KTS PER SAT DERIVED WINDS...AIDED BY COMPLEX BC TO ALEUTIANS VORTEX. STRONG/DEEP CAA IN MERIDONAL FLOW AS UL RIDGE FM SOCAL BUILDS TOWARD SRN CANADA 12 UTC SUN. ADNLY NO ENSEMBLE GFS MEMBERS TAKE STRONG SRN CUTOFF APPROACH. NAM/GFS BUFKIT WET BULB PROFILES WOULD SUGGEST THAT PTYPE CHANGEOVER MAY BE COMPLETE TO FZN ACRS NRN/NWRN CWA LATE SAT NIGHT...BUT GIVEN ALL LIQUID PRIOR FCST WL ATTEMPT TO START TREND. SOME ACCUM PSBL IN LES REGN SUN...THOUGH EXTRM DISCREPANCIES IN CBL FLOW AS EXPECTED AT F72-84. ATTENDENT SFC LOW SHOULD BEGIN LIFTOUT MON WITH CONTINUATION OF PROGRESSIVE NRN STREAM FLOW AND IN COLLAB WITH MI NEIGHBORS HAVE AXED PRIOR LOW CHC MENTION MON-TUE NIGHT. FEW CHANGES OTHERWISE...APPEARS NEXT NRN STREAM TROF DIGS INTO WRN GRTLKS/UPR MSVLY PER GEFS ON DY7 WITH POTNL CHC SHSN THEREAFTER. && .IWX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... IN...NONE. MI...NONE. OH...NONE. LM...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY UNTIL 11 AM EST SATURDAY FOR LMZ043-046. && $$ SHORT TERM...JC LONG TERM...MURPHY AVIATION...MARSILI UPDATE...MARSILI
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS NORTHERN INDIANA
627 PM EST THU NOV 24 2011 .AVIATION... 00Z TAFS...MAIN AVIATION FORECAST QUESTION WILL CONTINUE TO CENTER ON POTENTIAL OF IFR/MVFR CIGS TO REDEVELOP TONIGHT. CLEARING TREND FROM SOUTH TO NORTH PER SATELLITE IMAGERY/SFC OBS NOTED LATE AFTERNOON INTO EARLY EVENING...WITH RECENT KSBN OBSERVATIONS EVEN SCATTERING MVFR DECK. DIURNAL COOLING AND PRESISTENCE OF AN EXTREMELY STRONG LOW LEVEL INVERSION WILL ONCE AGAIN POSE THE CONCERN OF STRATUS REDEVELOPMENT TONIGHT. ALREADY BEGINNING TO SEE AREA OF STRATUS FROM SOUTHERN ILLINOIS INTO SOUTH CENTRAL INDIANA SLOWLY BEGINNING TO CREEP BACK NORTHWARD AND WOULD SUSPECT THIS TREND WILL CONTINUE THROUGH THE REMAINDER OF THE EVENING. AFTER VFR CONDITIONS FOR SEVERAL HOURS THIS EVENING...DID MAINTAIN TREND BACK TO HIGHER END IFR OR LOWER END MVFR CIGS FOR THE LATE EVENIGN AND OVERNIGHT HOURS. MORE IMPRESSIVE LOW LEVEL FLOW AND WARM ADVECTION ANTICIPATED BY MORNING WHICH SHOULD ALLOW FOR MORE EFFICIENT MIXING OF THIS VERY THIN MOISTURE LAYER. FORECAST CONFIDENCE IN THE ABOVE SCENARIO REGARDING STRATUS REDEVELOPMENT REMAINS RELATIVELY LOW...BUT WITH LITTLE CHANGE IN THERMAL/MOISTURE PROFILES...SEE NO REASON TO DEVIATE FROM PESSIMISSTIC TREND AT THIS TIME. WITH LOW CLOUDS ERODING...MIXING SHOULD BE MORE EFFICIENT WEDNESDAY WITH SOUTH GUSTS TO 20 TO 25 KNOTS IN THE LATE MORNING AND AFTERNOON. && .PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 352 PM EST THU NOV 24 2011/ SHORT TERM... TONIGHT THROUGH FRIDAY NIGHT BROAD SW UPPER FLOW REMAINS IN PLACE OVER THE REGION WITH SFC PRESSURE FALLS CONTINUING OVER THE UPPER MIDWEST IN RESPONSE TO A PROGRESSING NORTHERN STREAM TROUGH. A STAUNCH INVERSION REMAINS IN PLACE PER A SIG WAA REGIME...WITH TRAPPED MOISTURE IN THE BL. INSOLATION AND ENSUED MIXING PROCESSES ARE WORKING TO BREAK THE PERSISTENT CLOUD DECK UP...AND SOME SUN WILL BE POSSIBLE IN AREAS THIS AFTERNOON. HOWEVER...DIURNAL BL COOLING WILL LIKELY SUPPORT RE-SATURATION WITH THE CLOUD LAYER FILLING BACK IN...THIS BEING THE MAIN FORECAST CHALLENGE. TEMPS HAVE STRUGGLED TO RISE ACROSS THE FA GIVEN CLOUD COVER...BUT POSITIVE THERMAL ADVECTION HAS ALLOWED FOR SOME RECOVERY AS LL WIND INCREASES PER HIGHER LATITUDE PRESSURE FALLS. SYNOPTIC EVOLUTION IN THE PERIOD WILL FEATURE CENTRAL PLAINS PHASING OF THE PAC NW AND SW CONUS UPPER TROUGHS...WITH A WAA REGIME CONTINUING THROUGH THE PERIOD AHEAD OF THE LL TROUGH REFLECTION. HEIGHT RISES COMBINED WITH A DIRTY TYPE RIDGE RIDDLED WITH LOW AMPLITUDE IMPULSES WILL SUPPORT INCREASING CIRRUS ON FRIDAY. MUCH WARMER WEATHER IS IN STORE FRIDAY GIVEN A TREND TO MOSTLY SUNNY CONDITIONS AND WARM THERMAL FIELDS IN THE SFC TO H925 LAYER. RAOB AND TAMDAR ANALYSIS CONFIRM A SATURATED LAYER IN THE H975-H95 LAYER...WITH LOCAL CLOUD LAYER SOURCE BACK TRAJECTORY SAMPLING A LARGE PORTION OF THE STRATUS LAYER IN PLACE OVER THE LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY. BULK OF DRY AIR PUSH ASSOCIATED WITH REFLECTED LL FLOW WILL REMAIN NORTH OF THE REGION...WITH H975-H95 FLOW REMAINING SOUTHERLY OVERNIGHT. RUC13 AND NAM12 BOTH SUGGEST RE-SATURATION OF THIS LAYER...WHICH IS VERY REASONABLE GIVEN CLOUD LAYER TRAJECTORIES/A SHARP BL TOP INVERSION/AND AMPLE LL MOISTURE IN THE BL. HENCE...EXPECTING CLOUDS TO FILL BACK IN THIS EVENING. INCREASING NOCTURNAL LLJ AND ASSOCIATED TURBULENT MIX DOWN MAY SUPPORT SOME CLOUD BREAK UP LATE IN THE NIGHT...ESP ACROSS THE NORTHWEST WHERE H95 GEOSTROPHIC FLOW INCREASES TO OVER 35 KNOTS. CLOUD LAYER FLOW WILL VEER SW TOWARD DAWN AND HELP SUPPORT THE ADVECTION OF HIGH PLAINS SOURCE DRIER AIR...WITH CLEARING OF CIGS THROUGH LATE MORNING. PHASING UPPER TROUGH WITH SLOW EAST ADVECTION WILL DELAY ANY PRECIP CHANCES UNTIL SATURDAY GIVEN CONTINUED DRY DEEP LAYER FLOW WITH THE BULK OF ALL SYSTEM GENERATED ASCENT REMAINING WELL NORTH AND WEST OF THE REGION. NO SIG CHANGE TO TEMPS. CLOUDS AND MIXED LL FLOW WILL SUPPORT A RELATIVELY MILD NIGHT TONIGHT AND FRIDAY...WITH LOWS IN THE 40S...COOLEST READINGS TONIGHT. CLEARING LL STRATUS/WARM THERMAL FIELDS/AND GENEROUS MIXING WILL SUPPORT HIGHS INTO THE 50S...WITH SOME LOWER 60S POSSIBLE ACROSS THE SW THIRD FRIDAY. && LONG TERM... SATURDAY THROUGH THURSDAY. PRIMARY FOCUS ON DY3 PRECIP TIMING AND INTRO RASN MIX LATE SAT NIGHT TO PRIMARY FZN PTYPE ON SUN...IN LES REGN. LARGE DISCREPANCIES IN MID RANGE...HOWEVER FAVOR NAM/GFS/SREF DVLPG GRTLKS CUTOFF DY3 AS OPPOSED TO ECMWF/GEM TAKING FAR SRN DIXIE/GOMEX CUTOFF. GIVEN RAMPED NRN STREAM FLOW ACRS ENTIRE PACIFIC TO JAPAN GTE 150 KTS PER SAT DERIVED WINDS...AIDED BY COMPLEX BC TO ALEUTIANS VORTEX. STRONG/DEEP CAA IN MERIDONAL FLOW AS UL RIDGE FM SOCAL BUILDS TOWARD SRN CANADA 12 UTC SUN. ADNLY NO ENSEMBLE GFS MEMBERS TAKE STRONG SRN CUTOFF APPROACH. NAM/GFS BUFKIT WET BULB PROFILES WOULD SUGGEST THAT PTYPE CHANGEOVER MAY BE COMPLETE TO FZN ACRS NRN/NWRN CWA LATE SAT NIGHT...BUT GIVEN ALL LIQUID PRIOR FCST WL ATTEMPT TO START TREND. SOME ACCUM PSBL IN LES REGN SUN...THOUGH EXTRM DISCREPANCIES IN CBL FLOW AS EXPECTED AT F72-84. ATTENDENT SFC LOW SHOULD BEGIN LIFTOUT MON WITH CONTINUATION OF PROGRESSIVE NRN STREAM FLOW AND IN COLLAB WITH MI NEIGHBORS HAVE AXED PRIOR LOW CHC MENTION MON-TUE NIGHT. FEW CHANGES OTHERWISE...APPEARS NEXT NRN STREAM TROF DIGS INTO WRN GRTLKS/UPR MSVLY PER GEFS ON DY7 WITH POTNL CHC SHSN THEREAFTER. && .IWX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... IN...NONE. MI...NONE. OH...NONE. LM...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY UNTIL 11 AM EST SATURDAY FOR LMZ043-046. && $$ SHORT TERM...JC LONG TERM...MURPHY AVIATION...MARSILI
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS INDIANAPOLIS IN
336 PM EST WED NOV 23 2011 .UPDATE... THE AVIATION SECTION HAS BEEN UPDATED BELOW. && .SYNOPSIS... HIGH PRESSURE WILL PROVIDE DRY AND MILD CONDITIONS FOR THE FIRST PART OF THE LONG HOLIDAY WEEKEND...BEFORE A COLD FRONT BRINGS RAIN AND COLDER TEMPERATURES FOR THE LATTER HALF. ANOTHER COLD FRONT WILL MOVE THROUGH EARLY NEXT WEEK...REINFORCING THE COLDER AIR. && .NEAR TERM /LATE THIS AFTERNOON AND TONIGHT/... FOCUS IS ON SKY AND POTENTIAL FOG. MODELS ARE SIMILAR SO A BLEND IS OK. VERY STUBBORN STRATUS DECK IS BEGINNING TO ERODE FROM THE WEST AND THE EAST OF CENTRAL INDIANA THIS AFTERNOON...LEAVING MUCH OF CENTRAL INDIANA CLOUDY. THIS SLOW CLEARING TREND WILL CONTINUE INTO EARLY THIS EVENING...WITH CLOUDS REMAINING LONGEST ACROSS SOUTHERN SECTIONS OF THE AREA. THE PASSAGE OF THE 850MB RIDGE SHOULD HELP CLEAR THINGS OUT THIS EVENING...BUT THEN CLEAR SKIES AND LIGHT WINDS WILL ALLOW PATCHY FOG TO FORM...ESPECIALLY ACROSS THE SOUTH WHERE LITTLE IF ANY SUN WAS SEEN TODAY. THUS HAVE ADDED PATCHY FOG ALL AREAS OVERNIGHT. BUFKIT SUGGESTS THAT A STRATUS DECK MAY ALSO FORM...BUT NOT CONFIDENT ABOUT THAT. GENERALLY STUCK CLOSE TO A BLEND OF MOS FOR LOWS. && .SHORT TERM /THANKSGIVING THROUGH SATURDAY/... FOCUS IS ON CHANCES FOR RAIN SATURDAY. MODELS ARE IN DECENT AGREEMENT SO CONTINUED WITH A BLEND. ANY FOG OR STRATUS SHOULD BURN OFF EARLY THANKSGIVING AS HIGH PRESSURE MOVES OFF TO THE EAST AND SOUTHWEST WINDS PICK UP. THE SUNSHINE AND SOME WARM ADVECTION WILL ALLOW TEMPERATURES TO GET ABOVE NORMAL IN THE MID AND UPPER 50S. THE HIGH WILL KEEP MOSTLY CLEAR SKIES THURSDAY NIGHT AND FRIDAY WITH WARM ADVECTION KEEPING READINGS ABOVE NORMAL. CLOUDS WILL INCREASE FRIDAY NIGHT AHEAD OF AN APPROACHING COLD FRONT. ALL MODELS HAVE SPED UP THE FRONT. THE RELATIVELY STRONG FRONT ALONG WITH THE SHARP UPPER TROUGH SHOULD PROVIDE ENOUGH FORCING FOR LIKELY POPS ACROSS THE WEST HALF OF THE AREA AND HIGH CHANCE POPS EAST...MAINLY DURING SATURDAY AFTERNOON. INSTABILITY IS LACKING SO LEFT OUT THUNDER MENTION. && .LONG TERM /SATURDAY NIGHT THROUGH WEDNESDAY/... GFS DEPICTS A WET AND COLDER PATTERN TAKING SHAPE THROUGH EARLY NEXT WEEK AS SEVERAL SYSTEMS LOOK TO IMPACT THE REGION DURING THIS TIME FRAME. ONLY VEERS FROM ALL BLEND WERE TO INCREASE CLOUD COVER WHEN STRONG SYSTEMS WERE MOVING THROUGH. A STRONG COLD FRONT LOOKS TO PUSH THROUGH THE REGION ON SATURDAY NIGHT AND PUSH AN AREA OF SHRA ACROSS THE FORECAST AREA/ 850MB TEMPERATURES FALL TO LESS THAN -4C ON SUNDAY AS MUCH OF THE FORECAST SOUNDINGS FALL BELOW 0C. THUS A FEW SHSN WILL BE ABLE TO MIX IN. HOWEVER WITH THE WARM AND WET GROUND...LITTLE TO NO ACCUMULATION IS EXPECTED. COLD AIR REMAINS IN PLACE ACROSS THE AREA ON MONDAY AHEAD OF RIDGE BUILDING ACROSS THE AREA. SOME INSTABILITY SHRA/SHSN WILL BE POSSIBLE GIVEN THE DOME OF COLD AIR ACROSS THE REGION. ANOTHER UPPER LOW DROPS OUT OF THE GREAT LAKES INTO OHIO ON TUESDAY NIGHT AND WEDNESDAY...ONCE AGAIN BRINGING CHANCES FOR PRECIP ALONG WITH ANOTHER SHOT OF COLD AS 850MB TEMPERATURES FALL TO -8C BY 12Z WED. && .AVIATION /DISCUSSION FOR THE 23/21Z IND TAF UPDATE/... NO CHANGES NECESSARY. PREVIOUS DISCUSSION FOLLOWS. MVFR CONDITIONS EXPECTED TO LINGER ACROSS THE TAF SITES THROUGH THE AFTERNOON. SATELLITE IMAGES CONTINUE TO SHOW PESKY SC LINGERING ACROSS MUCH OF THE STATE. RUC SEEMS TO REPRESENT THE ONGOING SITUATION BEST...KEEPING LOWER LEVEL RH/S GREATER THAN 80% ACROSS THE AREA THROUGH MUCH OF THE AFTERNOON. FURTHERMORE...A LAKE MICHIGAN ENHANCED BAND OF CLOUDS SEEMS TO BE IN PLACE STREAMING SOUTHEAST ACROSS LAF AND IND. THUS WILL KEEP THE MVFR CIGS IN THE FORECAST UNTIL LATER TONIGHT WHEN THE UPPER RIDGE IS FINALLY EXPECTED TO SLIDE EAST OF CENTRAL INDIANA. ANY CLEARING MAY RESULT IN QUICK LOWER LEVEL SATURATION AS A GOOD RADIATION COOLING SITUATION SETS UP. HAVE INCLUDED MVFR FOG AT THE MORE RURAL TAF SITES LATE TONIGHT. HIGH PRESSURE RIDGE AND DRY AIR WILL REMAIN ACROSS THE AREA ON THURSDAY. THUS AFTER ANY MORNING FOG MIXES OUT...A RETURN TO VFR IS EXPECTED AT ALL TAF SITES. && .IND WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...NONE. && $$ SYNOPSIS...50 NEAR TERM...50 SHORT TERM...50 LONG TERM....PUMA AVIATION...JP/NIELD
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS INDIANAPOLIS IN
232 PM EST WED NOV 23 2011 .UPDATE... THE SYNOPSIS...NEAR TERM AND SHORT TERM SECTIONS HAVE BEEN UPDATED BELOW && .SYNOPSIS... HIGH PRESSURE WILL PROVIDE DRY AND MILD CONDITIONS FOR THE FIRST PART OF THE LONG HOLIDAY WEEKEND...BEFORE A COLD FRONT BRINGS RAIN AND COLDER TEMPERATURES FOR THE LATTER HALF. ANOTHER COLD FRONT WILL MOVE THROUGH EARLY NEXT WEEK...REINFORCING THE COLDER AIR. && .NEAR TERM /LATE THIS AFTERNOON AND TONIGHT/... FOCUS IS ON SKY AND POTENTIAL FOG. MODELS ARE SIMILAR SO A BLEND IS OK. VERY STUBBORN STRATUS DECK IS BEGINNING TO ERODE FROM THE WEST AND THE EAST OF CENTRAL INDIANA THIS AFTERNOON...LEAVING MUCH OF CENTRAL INDIANA CLOUDY. THIS SLOW CLEARING TREND WILL CONTINUE INTO EARLY THIS EVENING...WITH CLOUDS REMAINING LONGEST ACROSS SOUTHERN SECTIONS OF THE AREA. THE PASSAGE OF THE 850MB RIDGE SHOULD HELP CLEAR THINGS OUT THIS EVENING...BUT THEN CLEAR SKIES AND LIGHT WINDS WILL ALLOW PATCHY FOG TO FORM...ESPECIALLY ACROSS THE SOUTH WHERE LITTLE IF ANY SUN WAS SEEN TODAY. THUS HAVE ADDED PATCHY FOG ALL AREAS OVERNIGHT. BUFKIT SUGGESTS THAT A STRATUS DECK MAY ALSO FORM...BUT NOT CONFIDENT ABOUT THAT. GENERALLY STUCK CLOSE TO A BLEND OF MOS FOR LOWS. && .SHORT TERM /THANKSGIVING THROUGH SATURDAY/... FOCUS IS ON CHANCES FOR RAIN SATURDAY. MODELS ARE IN DECENT AGREEMENT SO CONTINUED WITH A BLEND. ANY FOG OR STRATUS SHOULD BURN OFF EARLY THANKSGIVING AS HIGH PRESSURE MOVES OFF TO THE EAST AND SOUTHWEST WINDS PICK UP. THE SUNSHINE AND SOME WARM ADVECTION WILL ALLOW TEMPERATURES TO GET ABOVE NORMAL IN THE MID AND UPPER 50S. THE HIGH WILL KEEP MOSTLY CLEAR SKIES THURSDAY NIGHT AND FRIDAY WITH WARM ADVECTION KEEPING READINGS ABOVE NORMAL. CLOUDS WILL INCREASE FRIDAY NIGHT AHEAD OF AN APPROACHING COLD FRONT. ALL MODELS HAVE SPED UP THE FRONT. THE RELATIVELY STRONG FRONT ALONG WITH THE SHARP UPPER TROUGH SHOULD PROVIDE ENOUGH FORCING FOR LIKELY POPS ACROSS THE WEST HALF OF THE AREA AND HIGH CHANCE POPS EAST...MAINLY DURING SATURDAY AFTERNOON. INSTABILITY IS LACKING SO LEFT OUT THUNDER MENTION. && .LONG TERM /SATURDAY NIGHT THROUGH WEDNESDAY/... GFS DEPICTS A WET AND COLDER PATTERN TAKING SHAPE THROUGH EARLY NEXT WEEK AS SEVERAL SYSTEMS LOOK TO IMPACT THE REGION DURING THIS TIME FRAME. ONLY VEERS FROM ALL BLEND WERE TO INCREASE CLOUD COVER WHEN STRONG SYSTEMS WERE MOVING THROUGH. A STRONG COLD FRONT LOOKS TO PUSH THROUGH THE REGION ON SATURDAY NIGHT AND PUSH AN AREA OF SHRA ACROSS THE FORECAST AREA/ 850MB TEMPERATURES FALL TO LESS THAN -4C ON SUNDAY AS MUCH OF THE FORECAST SOUNDINGS FALL BELOW 0C. THUS A FEW SHSN WILL BE ABLE TO MIX IN. HOWEVER WITH THE WARM AND WET GROUND...LITTLE TO NO ACCUMULATION IS EXPECTED. COLD AIR REMAINS IN PLACE ACROSS THE AREA ON MONDAY AHEAD OF RIDGE BUILDING ACROSS THE AREA. SOME INSTABILITY SHRA/SHSN WILL BE POSSIBLE GIVEN THE DOME OF COLD AIR ACROSS THE REGION. ANOTHER UPPER LOW DROPS OUT OF THE GREAT LAKES INTO OHIO ON TUESDAY NIGHT AND WEDNESDAY...ONCE AGAIN BRINGING CHANCES FOR PRECIP ALONG WITH ANOTHER SHOT OF COLD AS 850MB TEMPERATURES FALL TO -8C BY 12Z WED. && .AVIATION /DISCUSSION FOR THE 18Z TAFS/... MVFR CONDITIONS EXPECTED TO LINGER ACROSS THE TAF SITES THROUGH THE AFTERNOON. SATELLITE IMAGES CONTINUE TO SHOW PESKY SC LINGERING ACROSS MUCH OF THE STATE. RUC SEEMS TO REPRESENT THE ONGOING SITUATION BEST...KEEPING LOWER LEVEL RH/S GREATER THAN 80% ACROSS THE AREA THROUGH MUCH OF THE AFTERNOON. FURTHERMORE...A LAKE MICHIGAN ENHANCED BAND OF CLOUDS SEEMS TO BE IN PLACE STREAMING SOUTHEAST ACROSS LAF AND IND. THUS WILL KEEP THE MVFR CIGS IN THE FORECAST UNTIL LATER TONIGHT WHEN THE UPPER RIDGE IS FINALLY EXPECTED TO SLIDE EAST OF CENTRAL INDIANA. ANY CLEARING MAY RESULT IN QUICK LOWER LEVEL SATURATION AS A GOOD RADIATION COOLING SITUATION SETS UP. HAVE INCLUDED MVFR FOG AT THE MORE RURAL TAF SITES LATE TONIGHT. HIGH PRESSURE RIDGE AND DRY AIR WILL REMAIN ACROSS THE AREA ON THURSDAY. THUS AFTER ANY MORNING FOG MIXES OUT...A RETURN TO VFR IS EXPECTED AT ALL TAF SITES. && .IND WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... NONE. && $$ SYNOPSIS...50 NEAR TERM...50 SHORT TERM...50 LONG TERM....PUMA AVIATION...JP
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS INDIANAPOLIS IN
202 PM EST WED NOV 23 2011 .UPDATE... THE LONG TERM SECTION HAS BEEN UPDATED BELOW && .SYNOPSIS... HIGH PRESSURE WILL BUILD IN ACROSS THE OHIO VALLEY TODAY AND TONIGHT RESULTING IN DRY CONDITIONS AND MODERATING TEMPERATURES THROUGH THE FRIDAY NIGHT. AFTERNOON HIGHS IN THE LOWER 50S TODAY WILL WARM TO NEAR 60 DEGREES ON THANKSGIVING AND THE LOWER AND MID 60S BY BLACK FRIDAY. THEN...A COLD FRONT WILL MOVE THROUGH SATURDAY NIGHT FOLLOWED BY A SLOW MOVING UPPER LEVEL LOW. THIS WILL RESULT IN COLDER TEMPERATURES ALONG WITH SIGNIFICANT CLOUD COVER AND RAIN CHANCES THROUGH TUESDAY. THERE COULD EVEN BE SOME WET SNOW MIXED IN WITH ANY RAIN SHOWER MONDAY NIGHT AND TUESDAY. HIGHS IN THE UPPER 50S TO AROUND 60 SATURDAY WILL ONLY BE IN THE 40S SUNDAY THROUGH TUESDAY. && .NEAR TERM /REST OF TODAY/... STUBBORN STRATUS LOOKS TO LINGER THROUGH MUCH OF THE AFTERNOON OR EVEN INTO THE EVENING ACROSS PARTS OF THE AREA. THUS HAVE UPDATED TO INCREASE CLOUD COVER AND TWEAK DOWN TEMPERATURES...WHICH MAY BE STILL TOO HIGH IF NO SUNSHINE CAN BREAK THROUGH THIS AFTERNOON. && .SHORT TERM /TONIGHT THROUGH FRIDAY/... IT WILL BE A BENIGN SHORT TERM PERIOD WITH HIGH PRESSURE ANCHORED OVER CENTRAL INDIANA. THE ONLY FOCUS REALLY WILL BE TEMPS AND BREEZY SOUTHWEST WINDS ON FRIDAY. MODELS ARE CONSISTENT WITH TONIGHT/S LOW TEMPS...BUT STILL HAVING A TOUGH TIME BELIEVING THEY/RE ONLY GOING TO BOTTOM OUT IN THE MID TO UPPER 30S WITH THE CLEAR SKIES. SO...TRENDED MUCH LOWER WITH READINGS IN THE LOW TO MID 30S. TOMORROW...MODELS DIFFER QUITE A BIT WITH THE GFS FAVORING WARM AIR...AND THE NAM GOING MUCH COOLER. CURRENT THINKING IS THAT THE GFS IS HANDLING THE PATTERN BETTER. WINDS WILL COME AROUND TO THE SOUTHWEST...ADVECTING SOME WARMER AIR...AND SKIES WILL BE SUNNY. SO LEANED ON THE HIGH SIDE WITH UPPER 50S/LOW 60S. TOMORROW NIGHT...SOUTHWESTERLY FLOW SHOULD KEEP TEMPS FROM DROPPING DRASTICALLY...AND MODELS ARE IN GOOD AGREEMENT WITH LOWS IN THE LOW 40S. BUT AGAIN...SOME CONCERN WITH THEM FALLING BELOW THOSE NUMBERS WITH RADIATIONAL COOLING. FRIDAY...NAM COMES INTO LINE WITH GFS AND STARTS PICKING UP ON WARM SOUTHWEST FLOW. SO...WENT WITH A BLEND AND TOPPED HIGHS OFF IN THE LOW 60S. PLUS...PRESSURE GRADIENT TIGHTENS AHEAD OF THE NEXT SYSTEM...SO IT WILL BE BREEZY ON FRIDAY WITH SUSTAINED SOUTHWEST WINDS OF 10 TO 20 MPH...ALSO AIDING IN WARM ADVECTION. FRIDAY NIGHT...STUCK CLOSE TO GUIDANCE WITH LOWS GENERALLY IN THE MID 40S. SOUTHWEST WINDS SHOULD PREVENT TEMPS FROM FALLING TOO MUCH. && .LONG TERM /SATURDAY NIGHT THROUGH WEDNESDAY/... GFS DEPICTS A WET AND COLDER PATTERN TAKING SHAPE THROUGH EARLY NEXT WEEK AS SEVERAL SYSTEMS LOOK TO IMPACT THE REGION DURING THIS TIME FRAME. ONLY VEERS FROM ALL BLEND WERE TO INCREASE CLOUD COVER WHEN STRONG SYSTEMS WERE MOVING THROUGH. A STRONG COLD FRONT LOOKS TO PUSH THROUGH THE REGION ON SATURDAY NIGHT AND PUSH AN AREA OF SHRA ACROSS THE FORECAST AREA/ 850MB TEMPERATURES FALL TO LESS THAN -4C ON SUNDAY AS MUCH OF THE FORECAST SOUNDINGS FALL BELOW 0C. THUS A FEW SHSN WILL BE ABLE TO MIX IN. HOWEVER WITH THE WARM AND WET GROUND...LITTLE TO NO ACCUMULATION IS EXPECTED. COLD AIR REMAINS IN PLACE ACROSS THE AREA ON MONDAY AHEAD OF RIDGE BUILDING ACROSS THE AREA. SOME INSTABILITY SHRA/SHSN WILL BE POSSIBLE GIVEN THE DOME OF COLD AIR ACROSS THE REGION. ANOTHER UPPER LOW DROPS OUT OF THE GREAT LAKES INTO OHIO ON TUESDAY NIGHT AND WEDNESDAY...ONCE AGAIN BRINGING CHANCES FOR PRECIP ALONG WITH ANOTHER SHOT OF COLD AS 850MB TEMPERATURES FALL TO -8C BY 12Z WED. && .AVIATION /DISCUSSION FOR THE 18Z TAFS/... MVFR CONDITIONS EXPECTED TO LINGER ACROSS THE TAF SITES THROUGH THE AFTERNOON. SATELLITE IMAGES CONTINUE TO SHOW PESKY SC LINGERING ACROSS MUCH OF THE STATE. RUC SEEMS TO REPRESENT THE ONGOING SITUATION BEST...KEEPING LOWER LEVEL RH/S GREATER THAN 80% ACROSS THE AREA THROUGH MUCH OF THE AFTERNOON. FURTHERMORE...A LAKE MICHIGAN ENHANCED BAND OF CLOUDS SEEMS TO BE IN PLACE STREAMING SOUTHEAST ACROSS LAF AND IND. THUS WILL KEEP THE MVFR CIGS IN THE FORECAST UNTIL LATER TONIGHT WHEN THE UPPER RIDGE IS FINALLY EXPECTED TO SLIDE EAST OF CENTRAL INDIANA. ANY CLEARING MAY RESULT IN QUICK LOWER LEVEL SATURATION AS A GOOD RADIATION COOLING SITUATION SETS UP. HAVE INCLUDED MVFR FOG AT THE MORE RURAL TAF SITES LATE TONIGHT. HIGH PRESSURE RIDGE AND DRY AIR WILL REMAIN ACROSS THE AREA ON THURSDAY. THUS AFTER ANY MORNING FOG MIXES OUT...A RETURN TO VFR IS EXPECTED AT ALL TAF SITES. && .IND WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... NONE. && $$ SYNOPSIS...MK NEAR TERM...50 SHORT TERM...TDUD LONG TERM....PUMA AVIATION...JP
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS INDIANAPOLIS IN
1229 PM EST WED NOV 23 2011 .UPDATE... THE NEAR TERM SECTION HAS BEEN UPDATED BELOW && .SYNOPSIS... HIGH PRESSURE WILL BUILD IN ACROSS THE OHIO VALLEY TODAY AND TONIGHT RESULTING IN DRY CONDITIONS AND MODERATING TEMPERATURES THROUGH THE FRIDAY NIGHT. AFTERNOON HIGHS IN THE LOWER 50S TODAY WILL WARM TO NEAR 60 DEGREES ON THANKSGIVING AND THE LOWER AND MID 60S BY BLACK FRIDAY. THEN...A COLD FRONT WILL MOVE THROUGH SATURDAY NIGHT FOLLOWED BY A SLOW MOVING UPPER LEVEL LOW. THIS WILL RESULT IN COLDER TEMPERATURES ALONG WITH SIGNIFICANT CLOUD COVER AND RAIN CHANCES THROUGH TUESDAY. THERE COULD EVEN BE SOME WET SNOW MIXED IN WITH ANY RAIN SHOWER MONDAY NIGHT AND TUESDAY. HIGHS IN THE UPPER 50S TO AROUND 60 SATURDAY WILL ONLY BE IN THE 40S SUNDAY THROUGH TUESDAY. && .NEAR TERM /REST OF TODAY/... STUBBORN STRATUS LOOKS TO LINGER THROUGH MUCH OF THE AFTERNOON OR EVEN INTO THE EVENING ACROSS PARTS OF THE AREA. THUS HAVE UPDATED TO INCREASE CLOUD COVER AND TWEAK DOWN TEMPERATURES...WHICH MAY BE STILL TOO HIGH IF NO SUNSHINE CAN BREAK THROUGH THIS AFTERNOON. && .SHORT TERM /TONIGHT THROUGH FRIDAY/... IT WILL BE A BENIGN SHORT TERM PERIOD WITH HIGH PRESSURE ANCHORED OVER CENTRAL INDIANA. THE ONLY FOCUS REALLY WILL BE TEMPS AND BREEZY SOUTHWEST WINDS ON FRIDAY. MODELS ARE CONSISTENT WITH TONIGHT/S LOW TEMPS...BUT STILL HAVING A TOUGH TIME BELIEVING THEY/RE ONLY GOING TO BOTTOM OUT IN THE MID TO UPPER 30S WITH THE CLEAR SKIES. SO...TRENDED MUCH LOWER WITH READINGS IN THE LOW TO MID 30S. TOMORROW...MODELS DIFFER QUITE A BIT WITH THE GFS FAVORING WARM AIR...AND THE NAM GOING MUCH COOLER. CURRENT THINKING IS THAT THE GFS IS HANDLING THE PATTERN BETTER. WINDS WILL COME AROUND TO THE SOUTHWEST...ADVECTING SOME WARMER AIR...AND SKIES WILL BE SUNNY. SO LEANED ON THE HIGH SIDE WITH UPPER 50S/LOW 60S. TOMORROW NIGHT...SOUTHWESTERLY FLOW SHOULD KEEP TEMPS FROM DROPPING DRASTICALLY...AND MODELS ARE IN GOOD AGREEMENT WITH LOWS IN THE LOW 40S. BUT AGAIN...SOME CONCERN WITH THEM FALLING BELOW THOSE NUMBERS WITH RADIATIONAL COOLING. FRIDAY...NAM COMES INTO LINE WITH GFS AND STARTS PICKING UP ON WARM SOUTHWEST FLOW. SO...WENT WITH A BLEND AND TOPPED HIGHS OFF IN THE LOW 60S. PLUS...PRESSURE GRADIENT TIGHTENS AHEAD OF THE NEXT SYSTEM...SO IT WILL BE BREEZY ON FRIDAY WITH SUSTAINED SOUTHWEST WINDS OF 10 TO 20 MPH...ALSO AIDING IN WARM ADVECTION. FRIDAY NIGHT...STUCK CLOSE TO GUIDANCE WITH LOWS GENERALLY IN THE MID 40S. SOUTHWEST WINDS SHOULD PREVENT TEMPS FROM FALLING TOO MUCH. && .LONG TERM /SATURDAY THROUGH TUESDAY/... EXPECT A WET PERIOD TO THE BULK OF THE EXTENDED. EXTENDED MODELS CONTINUE TO COME TO A CONSENSUS WITH THE SPEED OF A COLD FRONT WITH A GENERAL SLOWING TREND WHICH WOULD SEEM TO FAVOR THE SLOWER ECMWF WHICH WOULD SUGGEST HIGH POPS ACROSS OUR WEST AND LOW CHANCE TO NO POPS EAST WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH THE CENTRAL REGION INITIALIZATION...SO DID NOT MAKE ANY CHANGES THERE. RETURN FLOW AHEAD OF THE FRONT SHOULD ALLOW TEMPERATURES TO BE WELL ABOVE NORMAL ON SATURDAY WITH HIGHS 55 TO 60 PER INITIALIZATION LOOKING OK. THE FRONT SHOULD BE THROUGH SHORTLY AFTER 12Z SUNDAY AT THE LATEST WITH DECENT COLD AIR ADVECTION BEHIND IT. IN ADDITION...TRAILING UPPER TROUGH AND ITS EVOLUTION RESULTING FROM A MERGER OF NORTHWESTERN ENERGY ALONG WITH A SOUTHWESTERN TROUGH SHOULD KEEP PLENTY OF CLOUDS AROUND AND PRECIPITATION CHANCES IN THROUGH TUESDAY. THUS...NORMAL TO BELOW NORMAL TEMPERATURES WITH AFTERNOON HIGHS MOSTLY IN THE 40S LOOK OK. ANY RAIN SHOWERS COULD MIX WITH SNOW SHOWERS MONDAY NIGHT AND TUESDAY ESPECIALLY IF THE SLOWER ECMWF TROUGH ALONG WITH ITS FURTHER NORTHWEST UPPER LOW VERIFY. OVER AN INCH OF RAINFALL TOTAL LOOKS LIKE A GOOD BET OVER THE WEEKEND AND EARLY NEXT WEEK. OVERALL...WITH LARGE MODEL DIFFERENCES...CONFIDENCE IS NOT STRONG ENOUGH TO MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THE INITIALIZATION. && .AVIATION /DISCUSSION FOR THE 18Z TAFS/... MVFR CONDITIONS EXPECTED TO LINGER ACROSS THE TAF SITES THROUGH THE AFTERNOON. SATELLITE IMAGES CONTINUE TO SHOW PESKY SC LINGERING ACROSS MUCH OF THE STATE. RUC SEEMS TO REPRESENT THE ONGOING SITUATION BEST...KEEPING LOWER LEVEL RH/S GREATER THAN 80% ACROSS THE AREA THROUGH MUCH OF THE AFTERNOON. FURTHERMORE...A LAKE MICHIGAN ENHANCED BAND OF CLOUDS SEEMS TO BE IN PLACE STREAMING SOUTHEAST ACROSS LAF AND IND. THUS WILL KEEP THE MVFR CIGS IN THE FORECAST UNTIL LATER TONIGHT WHEN THE UPPER RIDGE IS FINALLY EXPECTED TO SLIDE EAST OF CENTRAL INDIANA. ANY CLEARING MAY RESULT IN QUICK LOWER LEVEL SATURATION AS A GOOD RADIATION COOLING SITUATION SETS UP. HAVE INCLUDED MVFR FOG AT THE MORE RURAL TAF SITES LATE TONIGHT. HIGH PRESSURE RIDGE AND DRY AIR WILL REMAIN ACROSS THE AREA ON THURSDAY. THUS AFTER ANY MORNING FOG MIXES OUT...A RETURN TO VFR IS EXPECTED AT ALL TAF SITES. && .IND WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... NONE. && $$ SYNOPSIS...MK NEAR TERM...50 SHORT TERM...TDUD LONG TERM....MK AVIATION...JP
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS INDIANAPOLIS IN
1204 PM EST WED NOV 23 2011 .UPDATE... THE AVIATION SECTION HAS BEEN UPDATED BELOW && .SYNOPSIS... HIGH PRESSURE WILL BUILD IN ACROSS THE OHIO VALLEY TODAY AND TONIGHT RESULTING IN DRY CONDITIONS AND MODERATING TEMPERATURES THROUGH THE FRIDAY NIGHT. AFTERNOON HIGHS IN THE LOWER 50S TODAY WILL WARM TO NEAR 60 DEGREES ON THANKSGIVING AND THE LOWER AND MID 60S BY BLACK FRIDAY. THEN...A COLD FRONT WILL MOVE THROUGH SATURDAY NIGHT FOLLOWED BY A SLOW MOVING UPPER LEVEL LOW. THIS WILL RESULT IN COLDER TEMPERATURES ALONG WITH SIGNIFICANT CLOUD COVER AND RAIN CHANCES THROUGH TUESDAY. THERE COULD EVEN BE SOME WET SNOW MIXED IN WITH ANY RAIN SHOWER MONDAY NIGHT AND TUESDAY. HIGHS IN THE UPPER 50S TO AROUND 60 SATURDAY WILL ONLY BE IN THE 40S SUNDAY THROUGH TUESDAY. && .NEAR TERM /REST OF TODAY/... STRATUS IS BEING STUBBORN AND STICKING AROUND LONGER ACROSS MUCH OF THE AREA THAN PREVIOUSLY THOUGHT. PART OF THIS IS DUE TO ENHANCEMENT FROM LAKE MICHIGAN. DRIER AIR WILL STILL WORK INTO THE AREA TODAY SO STILL BELIEVE THAT STRATUS WILL EVENTUALLY BREAK UP...BUT HAVE SLOWED DOWN CLEARING BY A FEW HOURS MOST AREAS. THUS HAVE ALSO SLOWED DOWN THE TEMPERATURE RISE TODAY. HOWEVER WITH SUNSHINE STILL EXPECTED THIS AFTERNOON...ONLY BUMPED DOWN HIGHS A LITTLE FOR NOW. WILL KEEP AN EYE ON EVOLUTION OF THE CLOUD DECK AND UPDATE AGAIN AS NECESSARY TODAY. && .SHORT TERM /TONIGHT THROUGH FRIDAY/... IT WILL BE A BENIGN SHORT TERM PERIOD WITH HIGH PRESSURE ANCHORED OVER CENTRAL INDIANA. THE ONLY FOCUS REALLY WILL BE TEMPS AND BREEZY SOUTHWEST WINDS ON FRIDAY. MODELS ARE CONSISTENT WITH TONIGHT/S LOW TEMPS...BUT STILL HAVING A TOUGH TIME BELIEVING THEY/RE ONLY GOING TO BOTTOM OUT IN THE MID TO UPPER 30S WITH THE CLEAR SKIES. SO...TRENDED MUCH LOWER WITH READINGS IN THE LOW TO MID 30S. TOMORROW...MODELS DIFFER QUITE A BIT WITH THE GFS FAVORING WARM AIR...AND THE NAM GOING MUCH COOLER. CURRENT THINKING IS THAT THE GFS IS HANDLING THE PATTERN BETTER. WINDS WILL COME AROUND TO THE SOUTHWEST...ADVECTING SOME WARMER AIR...AND SKIES WILL BE SUNNY. SO LEANED ON THE HIGH SIDE WITH UPPER 50S/LOW 60S. TOMORROW NIGHT...SOUTHWESTERLY FLOW SHOULD KEEP TEMPS FROM DROPPING DRASTICALLY...AND MODELS ARE IN GOOD AGREEMENT WITH LOWS IN THE LOW 40S. BUT AGAIN...SOME CONCERN WITH THEM FALLING BELOW THOSE NUMBERS WITH RADIATIONAL COOLING. FRIDAY...NAM COMES INTO LINE WITH GFS AND STARTS PICKING UP ON WARM SOUTHWEST FLOW. SO...WENT WITH A BLEND AND TOPPED HIGHS OFF IN THE LOW 60S. PLUS...PRESSURE GRADIENT TIGHTENS AHEAD OF THE NEXT SYSTEM...SO IT WILL BE BREEZY ON FRIDAY WITH SUSTAINED SOUTHWEST WINDS OF 10 TO 20 MPH...ALSO AIDING IN WARM ADVECTION. FRIDAY NIGHT...STUCK CLOSE TO GUIDANCE WITH LOWS GENERALLY IN THE MID 40S. SOUTHWEST WINDS SHOULD PREVENT TEMPS FROM FALLING TOO MUCH. && .LONG TERM /SATURDAY THROUGH TUESDAY/... EXPECT A WET PERIOD TO THE BULK OF THE EXTENDED. EXTENDED MODELS CONTINUE TO COME TO A CONSENSUS WITH THE SPEED OF A COLD FRONT WITH A GENERAL SLOWING TREND WHICH WOULD SEEM TO FAVOR THE SLOWER ECMWF WHICH WOULD SUGGEST HIGH POPS ACROSS OUR WEST AND LOW CHANCE TO NO POPS EAST WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH THE CENTRAL REGION INITIALIZATION...SO DID NOT MAKE ANY CHANGES THERE. RETURN FLOW AHEAD OF THE FRONT SHOULD ALLOW TEMPERATURES TO BE WELL ABOVE NORMAL ON SATURDAY WITH HIGHS 55 TO 60 PER INITIALIZATION LOOKING OK. THE FRONT SHOULD BE THROUGH SHORTLY AFTER 12Z SUNDAY AT THE LATEST WITH DECENT COLD AIR ADVECTION BEHIND IT. IN ADDITION...TRAILING UPPER TROUGH AND ITS EVOLUTION RESULTING FROM A MERGER OF NORTHWESTERN ENERGY ALONG WITH A SOUTHWESTERN TROUGH SHOULD KEEP PLENTY OF CLOUDS AROUND AND PRECIPITATION CHANCES IN THROUGH TUESDAY. THUS...NORMAL TO BELOW NORMAL TEMPERATURES WITH AFTERNOON HIGHS MOSTLY IN THE 40S LOOK OK. ANY RAIN SHOWERS COULD MIX WITH SNOW SHOWERS MONDAY NIGHT AND TUESDAY ESPECIALLY IF THE SLOWER ECMWF TROUGH ALONG WITH ITS FURTHER NORTHWEST UPPER LOW VERIFY. OVER AN INCH OF RAINFALL TOTAL LOOKS LIKE A GOOD BET OVER THE WEEKEND AND EARLY NEXT WEEK. OVERALL...WITH LARGE MODEL DIFFERENCES...CONFIDENCE IS NOT STRONG ENOUGH TO MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THE INITIALIZATION. && .AVIATION /DISCUSSION FOR THE 18Z TAFS/... MVFR CONDITIONS EXPECTED TO LINGER ACROSS THE TAF SITES THROUGH THE AFTERNOON. SATELLITE IMAGES CONTINUE TO SHOW PESKY SC LINGERING ACROSS MUCH OF THE STATE. RUC SEEMS TO REPRESENT THE ONGOING SITUATION BEST...KEEPING LOWER LEVEL RH/S GREATER THAN 80% ACROSS THE AREA THROUGH MUCH OF THE AFTERNOON. FURTHERMORE...A LAKE MICHIGAN ENHANCED BAND OF CLOUDS SEEMS TO BE IN PLACE STREAMING SOUTHEAST ACROSS LAF AND IND. THUS WILL KEEP THE MVFR CIGS IN THE FORECAST UNTIL LATER TONIGHT WHEN THE UPPER RIDGE IS FINALLY EXPECTED TO SLIDE EAST OF CENTRAL INDIANA. ANY CLEARING MAY RESULT IN QUICK LOWER LEVEL SATURATION AS A GOOD RADIATION COOLING SITUATION SETS UP. HAVE INCLUDED MVFR FOG AT THE MORE RURAL TAF SITES LATE TONIGHT. HIGH PRESSURE RIDGE AND DRY AIR WILL REMAIN ACROSS THE AREA ON THURSDAY. THUS AFTER ANY MORNING FOG MIXES OUT...A RETURN TO VFR IS EXPECTED AT ALL TAF SITES. && .IND WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... NONE. && $$ SYNOPSIS...MK NEAR TERM...50 SHORT TERM...TDUD LONG TERM....MK AVIATION...JP
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS NORTHERN INDIANA
1233 AM EST WED NOV 23 2011 .AVIATION... PCPN COMING TO AN END ACROSS THE AREA WITH KIWX 88D SHOWING BACK EDGE THROUGH KSBN AT ISSUANCE. TIMING SUGGEST ENDING AT KFWA BY 08Z. CIGS QUICKLY RISE WITH ENDING PCPN GOING FROM IFR TO VFR. KSBN ALREADY VFR AND EXPECT KFWA TO TREND THAT WAY AS WELL AS RAIN ENDS. SATELLITE SHOWS CLEARING MAKING STEADY PROGRESS EAST AND TIMING SUGGEST CLEARING AT KSBN POSSIBLE BY 10Z WHICH WOULD YIELD A SHORT PERIOD OF PRE-DAWN CLEAR SKIES WITH LIGHT WINDS. INTRODUCED MVFR VIS FOR THIS GIVEN UPSTREAM DEVELOPMENT IN THIS CLEARING ALREADY. DRY AIRMASS AND MIXING SHOULD ALLOW FOR QUICK DISSIPATION OF ANY FOG AFTER SUNRISE. VFR REMAINDER OF DAY. CONCERN FOR ADDITIONAL FOG DEVELOPMENT THURSDAY MORNING BUT THIS LOOKS TO BE JUST AFTER VALID PERIOD OF CURRENT TAFS AND WILL BE LOOKED AT IN MORE DETAIL WITH NEXT ISSUANCE. && .UPDATE... A STRONG LEAD VORT MAX TRACKING THROUGH FAR EASTERN PORTIONS OF THE AREA LATE THIS EVENING SHOULD TAKE THE HEAVIER RAINFALL RATES EAST OF THE AREA OVER THE NEXT HOUR. FOCUS THEN SHIFTS BACK ACROSS NORTH CENTRAL PARTS OF THE FORECAST AREA WHERE STRONGER DEFORMATION FORCING WILL SPREAD EASTWARD FROM FAR NORTHWEST INDIANA. GIVEN GENERALLY OPEN AND PROGRESSIVE NATURE TO THE UPPER WAVE...THIS DEFORMATION FORCING SHOULD MOVE STEADILY WEST TO EAST ACROSS THE AREA THROUGH 06Z. DID MAKE SOME MINOR TWEAKS TO POP GRIDS...BUT OVERALL NATURE OF PREVIOUS GRIDS WERE MAINTAINED WITH WEST TO EAST DIMINISHMENT OF PRECIP AFTER 06Z. ONLY OTHER TWEAKS TO FORECAST WERE WITH HOURLY TEMPS AS SOME BETTER MIXING ACROSS EXTREME SOUTHEAST PORTIONS OF THE AREA ALLOWED FOR SOME BRIEF MILDER TEMPS LATE THIS EVENING. DID ALSO ADD A MENTION OF PATCHY FOG ACROSS EXTREME WRN PORTIONS OF THE AREA WERE SKIES ARE EXPECTED TO CLEAR OUT TOWARD MORNING. && .PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 322 PM EST TUE NOV 22 2011/ SHORT TERM... TONIGHT THROUGH WEDNESDAY NIGHT... KIWX RADAR SHOWING LARGE EXPANSE OF MODERATE RAIN...WITH EMBEDDED HEAVIER BANDS...COVERING THE ENTIRE CWA THIS AFTERNOON. SFC ANALYSIS INDICATING LOW PRESSURE CENTER HAS MOVED INTO SW INDIANA...WITH PRESSURE FALL ANALYSIS TAKING LOW ON NE TRACK BETWEEN DAYTON AND LIMA THIS EVENING. THIS TRACK WOULD BRING 700MB LOW AND ASSOCIATED DEFORMATION AXIS ACROSS THE AREA AND RESULT IN CONTINUED MODERATE TO HEAVY RAIN OVER THE EASTERN HALF OF THE CWA THROUGH EARLY THIS EVENING. WATER VAPOR IMAGERY AND LATEST RUC ANALYSIS HAS UPPER TROUGH OVER SE MO/W IL THIS AFTERNOON AND IS EXPECTED TO MAKES ITS WAY EASTWARD TO IN/OH LINE BY 06Z AND BRING AN END TO THE PRECIP BY LATE TONIGHT TO THE EASTERN CWA. SFC HIGH PRESSURE TO BUILD INTO THE REGION ON WEDNESDAY AND BRING A QUIET WEATHER PATTERN TO THE REGION HEADING TOWARD THE THANKSGIVING HOLIDAY ALONG WITH SEASONABLE TEMPS WITH HIGHS WEDNESDAY NEAR 50 AND L30S FOR LOWS. && LONG TERM.../THURSDAY THROUGH TUESDAY/ MODELS IN GOOD AGREEMENT LATE THIS WEEK THAT A GRADUALLY STRENGTHENING LONG WAVE TROF WILL PROGRESS EASTWARD ACROSS THE WRN U.S. WHILE AHEAD OF IT A STRONG UPR LEVEL RIDGE WILL MOVE EAST ACROSS ERN PORTIONS OF THE COUNTRY. THIS SHOULD RESULT IN A WARM DRY AIRMASS IMPACTING OUR CWA THU-FRI. LITTLE CLOUDINESS AND DECENT MIXING FOR THIS TIME OF YEAR...ESPECIALLY FRIDAY... SHOULD ALLOW HIGHS TO REACH THE M50S THU AND THE L60S FRI OVER MOST OF THE CWA. TEMPS SHOULD REMAIN ABOVE NORMAL SATURDAY... BUT WITH UPR RIDGE MOVG TO THE EAST COAST AND INCRSG CLOUDS AND PRBLY EVENTUALLY SHOWERS ASSOCIATED WITH THE APCHG TROF SPREADING INTO THE CWA DURING THE DAY... HIGHS SHOULD BE A BIT LOWER THAN FRIDAY... IN THE M50S. THE LONG WAVE IS FCST BY ALL OPERATIONAL MEDIUM RANGE MODELS TO CLOSE/CUT OFF OVER THE CENTRAL U.S. SUNDAY... BUT LARGE DIFFERENCES REMAIN ON WHERE THIS WILL OCCUR BOTH AMONG LATEST GUIDANCE AND AMONG THEIR RESPECTIVE RECENT RUNS. GFS ENSEMBLES ALSO SUGGESTING CUT OFF LOW WILL DEVELOP BUT SPREAD IS VERY LARGE. THUS, CONFIDENCE IN LONG RANGE FCST GOOD THROUGH SAT... THEN GOES DOWNHILL SUNDAY THROUGH TUE... THOUGH DOES APPEAR THAT TEMPS WILL BE CONSIDERABLY COOLER...CLOSER TO IF NOT BLO NORMAL EARLY NEXT WEEK. ALSO HARD ATTM TO LEAVE OUT A CHC OF PRECIP IN EACH 12HR PERIOD SUN-TUE GIVEN POTENTIAL FOR LOW CLOSING/CUTTING OFF OVER CENTRAL U.S. SUNDAY AND THEN SLOWLY LIFTING OUT TO THE NE MON-TUE. && .IWX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... IN...NONE. MI...NONE. OH...NONE. LM...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY UNTIL 11 AM EST WEDNESDAY FOR LMZ043-046. && $$ SHORT TERM...LOGSDON LONG TERM...JT AVIATION...LASHLEY UPDATE...MARSILI
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS TOPEKA KS
1138 PM CST TUE NOV 22 2011 ...UPDATE TO AVIATION... .DISCUSSION... SHORT RANGE FORECAST (TODAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY) 20Z WATER VAPOR SHOWS THE UPPER WAVE THAT BROUGHT THE RAIN THIS MORNING CONTINUES TO MOVE EAST WITH A SHORTWAVE RIDGE BUILDING INTO THE CENTRAL PLAINS. AT THE SFC THERE WAS A BROAD AND WEAK RIDGE OVER MUCH OF THE CENTRAL U.S. FOR TONIGHT AND WEDNESDAY...THE MAIN CONCERN IS THE LOW CLOUDS AND POTENTIAL FOR DENSE FOG FORMING. INCREASING SUBSIDENCE FROM THE SHORTWAVE RIDGE SHOULD PREVENT ANY PRECIPITATION FROM OCCURRING. HOWEVER THE LOW STRATUS HAS PREVENTED THE BOUNDARY LAYER FROM MIXING OUT THIS AFTERNOON AND DEWPOINTS REMAIN IN THE 30S AND LOW 40S. BOTH THE NAM AND RUC INSIST ON THE STRATUS DECK MOVING EAST EARLY THIS EVENING. IF THIS IN FACT OCCURS...THE SETUP FOR RADIATIONAL FOG LOOKS GOOD WITH CLEAR SKIES AND VERY LIGHT WINDS ANTICIPATED OVERNIGHT. RIGHT NOW THE FORECAST HAS MIN TEMPS FORECAST TO BE ANYWHERE BETWEEN 5 AND 10 DEGREES COOLER THAN THE CURRENT OBSERVED DEWPOINTS. SINCE THERE CONTINUES TO BE UNCERTAINTY IN THE STRATUS MOVING EAST...THE LOW TEMP FORECAST COULD BE TO COOL AND RADIATIONAL COOLING MAY NOT DEVELOP. OTHERWISE I WOULD CONSIDER A DENSE FOG ADVISORY THROUGH WEDNESDAY MORNING. THE EVENING SHIFT SHOULD BE ABLE TO MONITOR CLOUD COVER AND SEE IF DENSE FOG WILL FORM AND THE MOST LIKELY LOCATION FOR ITS FORMATION. OTHERWISE MODELS SHOW WARM AIR ADVECTING IN FROM THE SOUTH FOR WEDNESDAY WITH THE BOUNDARY LAYER MIXING TO AROUND 925MB. THIS SHOULD LEAD TO HIGHS IN THE LOWER AND MIDDLE 60S TOMORROW AFTERNOON. WOLTERS MID RANGE FORECAST (WEDNESDAY NIGHT THROUGH FRIDAY) MODEL CONTINUE TO SHOW WARM ADVECTION INCREASING WEDNESDAY NIGHT AS WELL AS AN INCREASE IN MIXING. AS A RESULT...EXPECT LOWS TO BE 8 TO 10 DEGREES ABOVE TONIGHTS LOWS...ALTHOUGH SKIES WILL BE CLEAR. ALTHOUGH SOME HIGH CLOUDS WILL MOVE INTO THE COUNTY WARNING AREA (CWA) ON THANKSGIVING...THEY SHOULD NOT BE THICK ENOUGH TO OFFSET THE PERSISTENT WARM AIR ADVECTION. AXIS OF WARMER AIR AND WARMEST HIGH TEMPS STILL APPEARS WILL SET UP FROM NEAR SALINA INTO THE MANHATTAN AREA WHERE TEMPS SHOULD APPROACH 70 BY MID AFTERNOON...ALTHOUGH THE MIDDLE TO UPPER 60S LOOK IN STORE FOR MOST LOCATIONS IN THE CWA. LATE THURSDAY NIGHT AND ESPECIALLY DURING THE DAY FRIDAY...SOME LOW LEVEL MOISTURE WILL BEGIN TO ADVECT NORTHWARD INTO THE CWA...ALTHOUGH IT WILL PRIMARILY OCCUR IN THE LATTER HALF OF THE DAY AS THE ATMOSPHERE IN THE 700-850MB LAYER WILL BE SLOW TO MOISTEN. WILL KEEP CHANCE POPS ALL AREAS EXCEPT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE CWA. ALSO...ELEVATED CAPE REMAINS VERY LIMITED AT BEST...SO WILL KEEP WEATHER GRIDS AS SHOWERS FOR NOW. ALTHOUGH FRIDAY WILL START OUT A GOOD 15 DEGREES ABOVE NORMAL... THE AXIS OF WARMER LLVL TEMPS WILL STEADILY SHIFT SOUTHEAST OF THE CWA AS CLOUDS THICKEN THROUGH THE DAY. THE SOUTHEAST HALF OF THE CWA SHOULD RISE INTO THE LOWER 60S TO MIDDLE 60S....BUT THE NORTHWEST COUNTIES SHOULD ONLY MAKE IT INTO THE MIDDLE TO UPPER 50S. 63 EXTENDED FORECAST (FRIDAY NIGHT THROUGH TUESDAY) FRIDAY NIGHT A HIGHLY AMPLIFIED SHORTWAVE TROUGH WILL MOVE OUT OF THE DESERT SOUTHWEST INTO THE CENTRAL PLAINS. A COLD FRONT WILL MOVE EAST ACROSS THE STATE OF KANSAS ON FRIDAY AND GRADUALLY CLEAR THE CWA EARLY SATURDAY MORNING. BUMPED UP PRECIPITATION CHANCES ON FRIDAY NIGHT INTO SATURDAY MORNING WITH GOOD AGREEMENT IN THE MEDIUM TO LONG RANGE MODELS...GOOD UPPER LEVEL SUPPORT FOR PRECIPITATION AND MODEL SOUNDINGS INDICATING A DEEP SATURATED LAYER DURING THIS TIME-FRAME. MODELS THEN CLOSE THE UPPER LEVEL LOW OFF TO THE EAST OF THE CWA BUT DIFFER ON WHERE THE LOW WILL CUT OFF AND VARY FROM THE GREAT LAKES REGION TO THE SOUTHEAST U.S. THIS IS HIGHLY DEPENDENT UPON THE STRENGTH AND AMPLIFICATION OF THE UPPER LEVEL WAVE. HOWEVER...THE CENTRAL U.S. WILL REMAIN ON THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE CUT OFF LOW WHICH WILL KEEP NORTHWESTERLY FLOW AND COLD AIR ADVECTION OVER THE REGION FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE EXTENDED FORECAST WITH COOLER AND DRY CONDITIONS EXPECTED FOR LATE NEXT WEEKEND INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK. ANDERSON && .AVIATION... WESTERN EDGE OF STRATUS OVER EASTERN KS HAS STOPPED ITS EASTWARD PROGRESS AND MAY BE HANGING AROUND AWHILE IN EASTERN COUPLE TIERS OF COUNTIES. MOIST AIR AND MOSTLY CLEAR SKIES IN MHK TONIGHT SHOULD LEAD TO DENSE FOG DEVELOPMENT WITH BECOMING VFR AFTER 15 OR 16Z. AT TOP AND FOE...WHEN STRATUS CLEARS OUT...ALSO EXPECT DEVELOPMENT OF DENSE FOG WITH LIFR VISIBILITIES...ALSO BREAKING UP BY MID MORNING. VFR AT ALL SITES EXPECTED FROM LATE MORNING ON. && .TOP WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... NONE. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS LOUISVILLE KY
1100 AM EST WED NOV 23 2011 .Short-Term Update (This Afternoon - Tonight)... Low clouds are very persistent this morning over central Kentucky and southern Indiana, within moist low-level northwest flow. ILN 12 UTC sounding shows rather deep moist layer to about 700 mb, with OHX sounding moist to about 800mb. 12z model soundings thin the moist layer and still allow clearing to occur this afternoon. In addition, a few AMDAR ascent/descent aircraft soundings suggest the moist layer has thinned a bit from 12z RAOB soundings. As a result, will still indicate gradual clearing in forecast this afternoon, but have delayed onset, keeping low clouds locked in place a little longer than earlier forecast. In response, have lowered max temps a degree or two in some areas, but if sunshine does break through, temps will only have to rise a few degrees to reach originally projected values. Otherwise, forecast is on track with no other significant changes needed at this time. && .Short Term (This Afternoon - Tonight)... Low clouds are very persistent this morning over central Kentucky and southern Indiana, within moist low-level northwest flow. ILN 12 UTC sounding shows rather deep moist layer to about 700 mb, with OHX sounding moist to about 800mb. 12z model soundings thin the moist layer and still allow clearing to occur this afternoon. In addition, a few AMDAR ascent/descent aircraft soundings suggest the moist layer has thinned a bit from 12z RAOB soundings. As a result, will still indicate gradual clearing in forecast this afternoon, but have delayed onset, keeping low clouds locked in place a little longer than earlier forecast. In response, have lowered max temps a degree or two in some areas, but if sunshine does break through, temps will only have to rise a few degrees to reach originally projected values. Otherwise, forecast is on track with no other significant changes needed at this time. .Long term (Thursday - Tuesday)... Well, many areas could be greeted on Thanksgiving morning with patchy dense fog, especially over the eastern CWA. This may take some time to burn off in the morning with ridging sliding in overhead, but with winds starting to pick up a tad from the south, sunny skies and mixing should burn that off by mid-morning. It will be a very pleasant day to enjoy your turkey, with afternoon highs in the upper 50s to the very low 60s. To round out the work week, surface high pressure will slide to the east as upper level ridging continues our mostly clear skies and warming conditions. After Thanksgiving night lows in the upper 30s and low 40s, shoppers can expect highs Friday in the low-mid 60s, with more mild lows Friday night in the 40s. By Saturday, the ridge will shift eastward as troughing from the Pacific NW and the southwest CONUS join on the lee of the Rockies to produce elongated low pressure over the Plains. Both the 00z Euro and GFS show the northern stream trough taking over and developing a stronger surface low over the Great Lakes and pushing its cold front towards our western CWA on Saturday. Kept high chance POPs over the far west and slight chance POPs towards our central CWA. The front should swing through late Saturday night into Sunday, with ample rainfall and embedded thunderstorms expected along it. Have likely and categorical POPs Saturday night, but these could easily push into Sunday. Although the Euro lags the GFS a bit, they both indicate the upper trough over the Mid-Mississippi Valley region Sunday night wrapping up into a closed low, which will then, in turn, create another surface low pressure by Monday. By Monday night and into Tuesday, the upper low sinks as far south as the Gulf States with the surface low developing just downstream and wrapping back up to the north under the large upper-level divergent region. Although the details are going to change from now until then, this solution with the cut-off low overhead would keep chance showers across the region through much of the extended and possibly beyond. Although the models have come in a bit warmer than yesterday`s 00z runs, there still appears to be a chance of some rain/snow mix Sunday night and especially Monday night. By Tuesday night, the lower Ohio Valley will be on the back side of this system, which could result in just plain snow showers across our region. Much uncertainty still remains with the timing and placement of these features, but it does appear to bring about an active period for several days. Highs in the coolish 50s for Sunday should drop into the 40s for highs for early next week given the amount of cloud cover and cold air aloft expected with this potential cut-off low. && .Aviation (12Z TAF Issuance)... A large field of low level stratocu extends all the way back into the upper Mississippi Valley and Great Lakes. It normally takes quite a while for these sorts of post-frontal cloud fields to clear out, and indeed the NAM12, GFS40, and HRRR hold the clouds in until early to mid afternoon. Cloud bases are fairly uniform across the region, mostly low end MVFR with some patchy high-end IFR. Winds today will be much lighter than yesterday as Tuesday`s storm system pulls off to the northeast and is replaced by high pressure coming in from the southern Plains. By late this afternoon into tonight skies will be clear with light and variable winds. Fog is expected to form after midnight tonight with the clear skies, light winds, and soaked ground. BWG should be most affected, followed by LEX and SDF in order of severity and persistence. && .LMK WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... IN...NONE. KY...NONE. $$ Update...........TWF Short Term.......13 Long Term........AL Aviation.........13
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS LOUISVILLE KY
551 AM EST WED NOV 23 2011 ...Updated Aviation Discussion... .Short Term (Today - Tonight)... Other than perhaps a stray patch of drizzle early this morning, today and tonight will be dry as yesterday`s storm system pulls off to the northeast and high pressure comes in from the west. Today`s main challenge is the low cloud deck, and when it will scour out. RH profiles on the NAM, GFS, and HRRR all agree that the low clouds will stick around into this afternoon, especially over Kentucky. Also, the tendency of the models is to clear out clouds too quickly, especially during the cool season. For these reasons we will be somewhat pessimistic with sky cover for this morning into early this afternoon. One possible game-changer is an area of clearing currently stretching from Wisconsin into Illinois and Iowa. It is trying to dive to the south, but really is only making slow forward progress so far and the models keep the bulk of this clearing just to our north today. So, bottom line, we will go with cloudy skies this morning and gradual clearing this afternoon. As for temperatures today, will go on the low side of guidance given the pessimistic cloud forecast. Temperatures will start the day in the middle 40s at best, so with clouds and a northwest breeze in late November it`s hard to imagine temperatures would rise very much. Also, highs upstream yesterday were only in the 40s, and diurnal ranges were on the order of just a few degrees. Will go with highs generally in the lower 50s, but the max temp today will be highly dependent on cloud cover. Tonight that high to our west will move into the Tennessee Valley, giving us clear skies and little wind. However, those conditions plus the copious rainfall we have received lately will result in fog. Right now will have the most widespread fog across the southeast half of the LMK CWA with just valley fog in the northwest where dew point depressions look to be a bit larger, but the fog area may need to be expanded in future forecasts. Low temperatures tonight will be in the lower to middle 30s. .Long term (Thursday - Tuesday)... Well, many areas could be greeted on Thanksgiving morning with patchy dense fog, especially over the eastern CWA. This may take some time to burn off in the morning with ridging sliding in overhead, but with winds starting to pick up a tad from the south, sunny skies and mixing should burn that off by mid-morning. It will be a very pleasant day to enjoy your turkey, with afternoon highs in the upper 50s to the very low 60s. To round out the work week, surface high pressure will slide to the east as upper level ridging continues our mostly clear skies and warming conditions. After Thanksgiving night lows in the upper 30s and low 40s, shoppers can expect highs Friday in the low-mid 60s, with more mild lows Friday night in the 40s. By Saturday, the ridge will shift eastward as troughing from the Pacific NW and the southwest CONUS join on the lee of the Rockies to produce elongated low pressure over the Plains. Both the 00z Euro and GFS show the northern stream trough taking over and developing a stronger surface low over the Great Lakes and pushing its cold front towards our western CWA on Saturday. Kept high chance POPs over the far west and slight chance POPs towards our central CWA. The front should swing through late Saturday night into Sunday, with ample rainfall and embedded thunderstorms expected along it. Have likely and categorical POPs Saturday night, but these could easily push into Sunday. Although the Euro lags the GFS a bit, they both indicate the upper trough over the Mid-Mississippi Valley region Sunday night wrapping up into a closed low, which will then, in turn, create another surface low pressure by Monday. By Monday night and into Tuesday, the upper low sinks as far south as the Gulf States with the surface low developing just downstream and wrapping back up to the north under the large upper-level divergent region. Although the details are going to change from now until then, this solution with the cut-off low overhead would keep chance showers across the region through much of the extended and possibly beyond. Although the models have come in a bit warmer than yesterday`s 00z runs, there still appears to be a chance of some rain/snow mix Sunday night and especially Monday night. By Tuesday night, the lower Ohio Valley will be on the back side of this system, which could result in just plain snow showers across our region. Much uncertainty still remains with the timing and placement of these features, but it does appear to bring about an active period for several days. Highs in the coolish 50s for Sunday should drop into the 40s for highs for early next week given the amount of cloud cover and cold air aloft expected with this potential cut-off low. && .Aviation (12Z TAF Issuance)... A large field of low level stratocu extends all the way back into the upper Mississippi Valley and Great Lakes. It normally takes quite a while for these sorts of post-frontal cloud fields to clear out, and indeed the NAM12, GFS40, and HRRR hold the clouds in until early to mid afternoon. Cloud bases are fairly uniform across the region, mostly low end MVFR with some patchy high-end IFR. Winds today will be much lighter than yesterday as Tuesday`s storm system pulls off to the northeast and is replaced by high pressure coming in from the southern Plains. By late this afternoon into tonight skies will be clear with light and variable winds. Fog is expected to form after midnight tonight with the clear skies, light winds, and soaked ground. BWG should be most affected, followed by LEX and SDF in order of severity and persistence. && .LMK WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... IN...NONE. KY...NONE. $$ Short Term.......13 Long Term........AL Aviation.........13
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS LOUISVILLE KY
307 AM EST WED NOV 23 2011 .Short Term (Today - Tonight)... Other than perhaps a stray patch of drizzle early this morning, today and tonight will be dry as yesterday`s storm system pulls off to the northeast and high pressure comes in from the west. Today`s main challenge is the low cloud deck, and when it will scour out. RH profiles on the NAM, GFS, and HRRR all agree that the low clouds will stick around into this afternoon, especially over Kentucky. Also, the tendency of the models is to clear out clouds too quickly, especially during the cool season. For these reasons we will be somewhat pessimistic with sky cover for this morning into early this afternoon. One possible game-changer is an area of clearing currently stretching from Wisconsin into Illinois and Iowa. It is trying to dive to the south, but really is only making slow forward progress so far and the models keep the bulk of this clearing just to our north today. So, bottom line, we will go with cloudy skies this morning and gradual clearing this afternoon. As for temperatures today, will go on the low side of guidance given the pessimistic cloud forecast. Temperatures will start the day in the middle 40s at best, so with clouds and a northwest breeze in late November it`s hard to imagine temperatures would rise very much. Also, highs upstream yesterday were only in the 40s, and diurnal ranges were on the order of just a few degrees. Will go with highs generally in the lower 50s, but the max temp today will be highly dependent on cloud cover. Tonight that high to our west will move into the Tennessee Valley, giving us clear skies and little wind. However, those conditions plus the copious rainfall we have received lately will result in fog. Right now will have the most widespread fog across the southeast half of the LMK CWA with just valley fog in the northwest where dew point depressions look to be a bit larger, but the fog area may need to be expanded in future forecasts. Low temperatures tonight will be in the lower to middle 30s. .Long term (Thursday - Tuesday)... Well, many areas could be greeted on Thanksgiving morning with patchy dense fog, especially over the eastern CWA. This may take some time to burn off in the morning with ridging sliding in overhead, but with winds starting to pick up a tad from the south, sunny skies and mixing should burn that off by mid-morning. It will be a very pleasant day to enjoy your turkey, with afternoon highs in the upper 50s to the very low 60s. To round out the work week, surface high pressure will slide to the east as upper level ridging continues our mostly clear skies and warming conditions. After Thanksgiving night lows in the upper 30s and low 40s, shoppers can expect highs Friday in the low-mid 60s, with more mild lows Friday night in the 40s. By Saturday, the ridge will shift eastward as troughing from the Pacific NW and the southwest CONUS join on the lee of the Rockies to produce elongated low pressure over the Plains. Both the 00z Euro and GFS show the northern stream trough taking over and developing a stronger surface low over the Great Lakes and pushing its cold front towards our western CWA on Saturday. Kept high chance POPs over the far west and slight chance POPs towards our central CWA. The front should swing through late Saturday night into Sunday, with ample rainfall and embedded thunderstorms expected along it. Have likely and categorical POPs Saturday night, but these could easily push into Sunday. Although the Euro lags the GFS a bit, they both indicate the upper trough over the Mid-Mississippi Valley region Sunday night wrapping up into a closed low, which will then, in turn, create another surface low pressure by Monday. By Monday night and into Tuesday, the upper low sinks as far south as the Gulf States with the surface low developing just downstream and wrapping back up to the north under the large upper-level divergent region. Although the details are going to change from now until then, this solution with the cut-off low overhead would keep chance showers across the region through much of the extended and possibly beyond. Although the models have come in a bit warmer than yesterday`s 00z runs, there still appears to be a chance of some rain/snow mix Sunday night and especially Monday night. By Tuesday night, the lower Ohio Valley will be on the back side of this system, which could result in just plain snow showers across our region. Much uncertainty still remains with the timing and placement of these features, but it does appear to bring about an active period for several days. Highs in the coolish 50s for Sunday should drop into the 40s for highs for early next week given the amount of cloud cover and cold air aloft expected with this potential cut-off low. && .Aviation (06Z TAF Issuance)... A large field of low level stratocu extends all the way back into the upper Mississippi Valley and Great Lakes. It normally takes quite a while for these sorts of post-frontal cloud fields to clear out, and indeed the NAM12, GFS40, and HRRR hold the clouds in until mid afternoon. Cloud bases are fairly uniform across the region, mostly low end MVFR with some patchy high-end IFR. Winds will gradually settle down overnight as Tuesday`s storm system pulls off to the northeast and is replaced by high pressure coming in from the southern Plains. By late this afternoon into tonight skies will be clear with light and variable winds. && .LMK WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... IN...NONE. KY...NONE. $$ Short Term.......13 Long Term........AL Aviation.........13
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS LOUISVILLE KY
1204 AM EST WED NOV 23 2011 ...Updated Aviation Discussion... .Short Term (Tonight - Wednesday)... Cold front will move through our area this evening, switching gusty south-to-southwest winds to west and then northwest overnight. It will be a cloudy night as temperatures fall into the lower to mid 40s by Wednesday morning. During the day Wednesday, low clouds will clear out from northwest to southeast starting in the morning, with clearing in the afternoon over eastern areas. High temperatures will be in the 50s. .Long term (Wednesday Night - Tuesday)... High pressure at the surface will be centered over the region Wednesday night and Thursday with ridging building in aloft. The high pressure will shift east on Friday, though it still will be in control. This will lead to a quite pleasant Thanksgiving and Black Friday. Skies will be mostly clear with temperatures on Thanksgiving topping out in the upper 50s to around 60. Friday will be even warmer, starting out around 40 and rising into the lower to mid 60s. The next system will begin to approach from the west on Saturday. A low pressure system will cross the Great Lakes into Canada through the weekend. The cold front associated with this system looks to now move into the area Saturday night. Rain and thunderstorms will approach the western border of the forecast area late Saturday afternoon or early evening. Moderate to heavy rain with embedded thunderstorms should overspread the area overnight Saturday through Sunday. Sunday afternoon into early next week is still a bit of a question mark. The latest run of the ECMWF is now in agreement with the GFS in spinning up a second low in the southern stream as an upper level low becomes cutoff over the lower Ohio Valley. This would keep chances for precipitation in the forecast through mid week. Additionally, the upper level low will pull in much colder air. With lows bottoming out in the mid 30s Sunday night and low 30s Monday night, there will be a chance for some snow to mix in with the light rain. As always this far out, there is the potential for the details of this system to change quite a bit over the next few days, so be sure to monitor future forecasts. && .Aviation (06Z TAF Issuance)... A large field of low level stratocu extends all the way back into the upper Mississippi Valley and Great Lakes. It normally takes quite a while for these sorts of post-frontal cloud fields to clear out, and indeed the NAM12, GFS40, and HRRR hold the clouds in until mid afternoon. Cloud bases are fairly uniform across the region, mostly low end MVFR with some patchy high-end IFR. Winds will gradually settle down overnight as Tuesday`s storm system pulls off to the northeast and is replaced by high pressure coming in from the southern Plains. By late this afternoon into tonight skies will be clear with light and variable winds. && .LMK WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... IN...NONE. KY...NONE. $$ Short Term.......TWF Long Term........EER Aviation.........13
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS PITTSBURGH PA
937 PM EST THU NOV 24 2011 .SYNOPSIS... LOW CLOUDS WILL REDEVELOP TONIGHT...ALTHOUGH HIGH PRESSURE WILL PROVIDE SUNSHINE ON FRIDAY ALONG WITH MILDER TEMPERATURES. A FRONTAL SYSTEM WILL AFFECT THE AREA LATE SATURDAY NIGHT INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK WITH PERIODS OF SHOWERS. && .NEAR TERM /THROUGH FRIDAY/... FORECAST REMAINS DIFFICULT. INSTEAD OF AREA OF LOW CLOUDS EXPANDING ACROSS THE REGION...THE CLOUD DECK HAS SIMPLY MOVED TO THE NORTHEAST SLOWLY DURING THE EVENING HOURS. IN ITS WAKE...VISIBILITIES ARE BEGINNING TO FALL...WITH PARKERSBURG ALREADY DOWN TO 1/2 HALF MILE VISIBILITY AND LOW CLOUDS. WITH 03Z UPDATE...HAVE USED THE LATEST RUN OF THE HRRR TO SHOW MOVEMENT OF CLOUDS TO THE NORTHEAST...WHICH SHOULD EXIT BY SUNRISE. HAVE ALSO DEPICTED PATCHY FOG DEVELOPING IN ALL LOCATIONS AS CLOUDS DEPART...WITH AREAS OF FOG IN VALLEYS. HAVE SLIGHTLY MORE CONFIDENCE IN THIS FORECAST THAN PREVIOUS FORECAST...BUT OVERALL CONFIDENCE STILL REMAINS LOW. LOW LEVEL MOISTURE MAY BEGIN TO ERODE TOMORROW...ALLOWING FOR CLEAR SKIES IN ALL LOCATIONS BY THE AFTERNOON. LOW TEMPERATURES WILL BE IN THE LOWER TO MID 30S...WITH UPPER 20S IN THE NORTHERN WV MOUNTAINS. FRIDAY AFTERNOON TEMPERATURES SHOULD REBOUND INTO THE UPPER 50S AND LOWER 60S. && .SHORT TERM /FRIDAY NIGHT THROUGH SUNDAY/... AREA OF HIGH PRESSURE CENTERED OVER THE SOUTHEASTERN STATES WILL DRIFT OFF THE ATLANTIC COAST BY SATURDAY. THIS WILL PROVIDE DRY CONDITIONS AND MILD TEMPERATURES THROUGH SATURDAY EVENING. CLOUDS WILL BE ON THE INCREASE LATE SATURDAY AHEAD OF A COLD FRONT MOVING ACROSS THE MIDWEST. THIS SYSTEM WILL SLOWLY CROSS THE FORECAST AREA ON SUNDAY. SHOWERS WILL SPREAD EASTWARD INTO EAST CENTRAL OH LATE SATURDAY NIGHT AND ACROSS THE ENTIRE AREA SUNDAY. PRECIPITATION AND CLOUD COVER WILL LIMIT TEMPERATURES TO THE UPPER 40S AND LOWER 50S SUNDAY. && .LONG TERM /SUNDAY NIGHT THROUGH THURSDAY/... EXTENDED FORECAST WILL FOLLOW NEW GFS AND HPC PROGS WITH COLD ADVECTION AND SNOW SHOWERS MONDAY AS UPPER TROUGH MOVES EAST OF GREAT LAKES AND STRONG SURFACE LOW MOVES OFFSHORE NEW ENGLAND. NEXT COLD FRONT APPROACHES REGION TUESDAY WITH CHANCE POPS AND A REINFORCING SHOT OF COLD AIR FOR WEDNESDAY INTO THURSDAY. TEMPERATURES WILL AVERAGE BELOW NORMAL THROUGH PERIOD AS A LARGE UPPER LEVEL TROUGH IS EXPECTED TO BE ESTABLISHED ACROSS THE NATIONS MID SECTION. && .AVIATION /03Z FRIDAY THROUGH TUESDAY/... WITH LOW LEVEL MOISTURE SET IN PLACE, LOW CLOUDS HAVE LINGERED IN THE REGION AND WILL REMAIN AND WILL LOWER OVERNIGHT WITH IFR CEILINGS PREVAILING. LATE NIGHT FOG WILL DEVELOP ACROSS THE REGION REDUCING VISIBILITY. HAVE LOW CONFIDENCE AS TO HOW LOW VISIBILITY WILL BE BUT HAVE TEMPO GROUPS FOR IFR VISIBILITY BEFORE SUNRISE. EXPECT A RETURN TO VFR CONDITIONS FOLLOWING THE SLOW DIMINISH OF FOG/STRATUS FOR FRIDAY. OUTLOOK... FRIDAY NIGHT THROUGH TUESDAY... VFR INTO SATURDAY EVENING. PREFRONTAL SHOWERS WITH RESTRICTIONS POSSIBLE STARTING LATE SATURDAY NIGHT INTO SUNDAY AFTERNOON. RAIN AND SNOW SHOWERS WITH RESTRICTIONS MAY BE POSSIBLE MONDAY THROUGH TUESDAY. && .PBZ WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... MD...NONE. OH...NONE. PA...NONE. WV...NONE. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS PITTSBURGH PA
720 PM EST THU NOV 24 2011 .SYNOPSIS... LOW CLOUDS WILL REDEVELOP TONIGHT...ALTHOUGH HIGH PRESSURE WILL PROVIDE SUNSHINE ON FRIDAY ALONG WITH MILDER TEMPERATURES. A FRONTAL SYSTEM WILL AFFECT THE AREA LATE SATURDAY NIGHT INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK WITH PERIODS OF SHOWERS. && .NEAR TERM /THROUGH FRIDAY/... CONSIDERING NO PRECIPITATION IS EXPECTED...A SURPRISINGLY DIFFICULT FORECAST. MODELS HAVE BEEN DOING A POOR JOB INDICATING WHERE CLOUD COVER IS EXPECTED OVER THE LAST 12-18 HOURS. ALTHOUGH LOW STRATUS BEGAN TO DISSIPATE IN SOME LOCATIONS BY EARLY AFTERNOON...A LARGE AREA NEVER DISSIPATED AND IS CURRENTLY OVER THE WESTERN HALF OF THE REGION. WITH LOSS OF DAYTIME HEATING...EXPECT THAT THIS CLOUD DECK WILL ONLY EXPAND IN AREAL COVERAGE. HAVE FOLLOWED THE HRRR TO TRY AND DEPICT HOW THE CLOUDS WILL EXPAND OVER TIME TONIGHT. IN A CHANGE FROM NORMAL...IT APPEARS THAT THE WV/MD RIDGES MAY END UP BEING THE ONLY AREA THAT DOES NOT HAVE CLOUD COVER. CONSIDERING FOG DEVELOPED IN SOME LOCATIONS LAST NIGHT UNDERNEATH STRATUS...HAVE NOT REMOVED FOG FROM LOCATIONS THAT WERE EXPECTED TO REMAIN CLEAR IN PREVIOUS FORECAST. HAVE ALMOST NO CONFIDENCE IN WHERE FOG WILL DEVELOP UNDER CLOUDS TONIGHT. EXTENSIVE CLOUD COVER SHOULD KEEP TEMPERATURES WARMER THAN LAST NIGHT. LOW LEVEL MOISTURE MAY BEGIN TO ERODE TOMORROW...ALLOWING FOR CLEAR SKIES IN ALL LOCATIONS BY THE AFTERNOON. LOW TEMPERATURES WILL BE IN THE LOWER TO MID 30S...WITH UPPER 20S IN THE NORTHERN WV MOUNTAINS. FRIDAY AFTERNOON TEMPERATURES SHOULD REBOUND INTO THE UPPER 50S AND LOWER 60S. && .SHORT TERM /FRIDAY NIGHT THROUGH SUNDAY/... AREA OF HIGH PRESSURE CENTERED OVER THE SOUTHEASTERN STATES WILL DRIFT OFF THE ATLANTIC COAST BY SATURDAY. THIS WILL PROVIDE DRY CONDITIONS AND MILD TEMPERATURES THROUGH SATURDAY EVENING. CLOUDS WILL BE ON THE INCREASE LATE SATURDAY AHEAD OF A COLD FRONT MOVING ACROSS THE MIDWEST. THIS SYSTEM WILL SLOWLY CROSS THE FORECAST AREA ON SUNDAY. SHOWERS WILL SPREAD EASTWARD INTO EAST CENTRAL OH LATE SATURDAY NIGHT AND ACROSS THE ENTIRE AREA SUNDAY. PRECIPITATION AND CLOUD COVER WILL LIMIT TEMPERATURES TO THE UPPER 40S AND LOWER 50S SUNDAY. && .LONG TERM /SUNDAY NIGHT THROUGH THURSDAY/... EXTENDED FORECAST WILL FOLLOW NEW GFS AND HPC PROGS WITH COLD ADVECTION AND SNOW SHOWERS MONDAY AS UPPER TROUGH MOVES EAST OF GREAT LAKES AND STRONG SURFACE LOW MOVES OFFSHORE NEW ENGLAND. NEXT COLD FRONT APPROACHES REGION TUESDAY WITH CHANCE POPS AND A REINFORCING SHOT OF COLD AIR FOR WEDNESDAY INTO THURSDAY. TEMPERATURES WILL AVERAGE BELOW NORMAL THROUGH PERIOD AS A LARGE UPPER LEVEL TROUGH IS EXPECTED TO BE ESTABLISHED ACROSS THE NATIONS MID SECTION. && .AVIATION /00Z FRIDAY THROUGH TUESDAY/... WITH LOW LEVEL MOISTURE SET IN PLACE, LOW CLOUDS HAVE LINGERED IN THE REGION AND WILL REMAIN AND WILL LOWER OVERNIGHT WITH IFR CEILINGS PREVAILING. LATE NIGHT FOG WILL DEVELOP ACROSS THE REGION REDUCING VISIBILITY. HAVE LOW CONFIDENCE AS TO HOW LOW VISIBILITY WILL BE BUT HAVE TEMPO GROUPS FOR IFR VISIBILITY BEFORE SUNRISE. EXPECT A RETURN TO VFR CONDITIONS FOLLOWING THE SLOW DIMINISH OF FOG/STRATUS FOR FRIDAY. OUTLOOK... FRIDAY NIGHT THROUGH TUESDAY... VFR INTO SATURDAY EVENING. PREFRONTAL SHOWERS WITH RESTRICTIONS POSSIBLE STARTING LATE SATURDAY NIGHT INTO SUNDAY AFTERNOON. RAIN AND SNOW SHOWERS WITH RESTRICTIONS MAY BE POSSIBLE MONDAY THROUGH TUESDAY. && .PBZ WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... MD...NONE. OH...NONE. PA...NONE. WV...NONE. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS MARQUETTE MI
1133 AM EST WED NOV 23 2011 UPDATED AVIATION DISCUSSION FOR 18Z TAFS .SYNOPSIS... WV IMAGERY AND RUC ANALYSIS INDICATED A BROAD MID/UPPER LEVEL RIDGE OVER THE WRN CONUS GRADUALLY EXPANDING TOWARD THE WRN GREAT LAKES. A SHRTWV ATOP THE RIDGE WAS MOVING THROUGH CNTRL MANITOBA. AT THE SFC...A RIDGE PERSITED OVER THE WRN LAKES BTWN A 997 MB LOW NEAR LAKE WINNIPEG AND A 1001 MB LOW OVER NW PA. WRLY 925-900 MB WINDS WERE HELPING TO PUSH A STRATUS DECK EASTWARD THROUGH CENTRL UPPER MI. && .DISCUSSION TODAY...EXPECT THAT AS THE MANITOBA LOW PRES SLIDS OFF TO THE EAST THROUGH NRN ONTARIO...THE INCREASING WRLY LOW LEVEL FLOW WILL BRING THE BACK EDGE OF THE CLOUD DECK(CURRENTLY OVER NW MN) THROUGH THE CWA BY EARLY THIS AFTERNOON...PER RUC 925 MB RH PROG. LIMITED DIURNAL HEATING SHOULD ALSO HELP TO DISSIPATE THE LOWER CLOUDS. HOWEVER...GIVEN THE TRENDS FROM THE LAST SEVERAL DAYS...CONFIDENCE WITH THE TIMING OF CLEARING IS LOW AND CLEARING MAY BE DELAYED. WAA AND SOME SUNSHINE SHOULD HELP BOOST TEMPS INTO THE LOWER 40S. TONIGHT...WITH UPSTREAM DEWPOINTS INTO THE LOWER 30S AND MOISTURE FROM MELTING SNOW OVER THE WEST...RADIATIONAL COOLING WILL LEAD TO AREAS OF FOG OVER INLAND LOCATIONS AS MIN TEMPS ALSO FALL INTO THE LOWER 30S. THURSDAY INTO FRIDAY...UNSEASONABLY MILD CONDITIONS WILL DEVELOP AS SW WINDS BRING IN MUCH WARMER AIR. WITH 925 MB TEMPS CLIMBING TO AROUND 10C...A VERY STRONG INVERSION WILL DEVELOP. MAX TEMPS WILL DEPEND ON HOW QUICKLY ANY MORNING FOG/STRATUS BURNS OFF AND THE MIXING DEPTH. EVEN WITH LATE NOV SUN ANGLE AND A VERY STABLE SFC-900 MB LAYER...EXPECT ENOUGH MIXING FOR TEMPS ABOVE CONS GUIDANCE VALUES...CLIMBING TO AROUND 50. AREAS WITH DOWNSLOPE SW WINDS SHOULD SEE READINGS INTO AT LEAST THE MID 50S. THIS MAY END UP JUST A BIT SHORT OF THE 55 DEGREE RECORD FROM 1984 AT NWS MQT. MIN TEMPS WILL ALSO REMAIN WELL ABOVE NORMAL THU NIGHT WITH READINGS INT THE UPPER 30S TO AROUND 40. INCREASING CLOUDS AS WEAK TROUGH/FRONT SAGS INTO THE AREA WILL KEEP MAX TEMPS IN THE 40S. SATURDAY...THE GFS/ECMWF WERE IN REASONABLE AGREEMENT WITH THE PROGRESSIVE MID LEVEL TROUGH AND THE SFC LOW DEVELOPING OVER THE PLAINS AND MOVING INTO WRN WI BY 12Z SAT. STRONG MOISTURE INFLOW WITH PWAT VALUES TO 0.75-1.00 AND 295K-300K ISENTROPIC LIFT AHEAD OF THE LOW SUPPORT LIKELY RAIN CHANCES OVER THE AREA. MODELS SUGGEST THAT CAA IN THE WAKE OF THE LOW WILL BE STRONG ENOUGH FOR A CHANGEOVER TO SNOW AND POSSIBLY LAKE ENHANCED SNOW LATE SAT NIGHT INTO SUN MORNING. SUN-TUE...GFS/ECWMF AND RESPECTIVE ENSEMBLES SOLUTIONS SPREAD BECOMES VERY LARGE AS MODELS HAVE DIFFICULTY DETERMING WHETHER A CUTOFF SRN STREAM LOW WILL DEVELOP AND WHERE IT WILL MOVE. WITH LOW CONFIDENCE IN ANY PARTICULAR SCENARIO...FCST INCLUDES CHANCE RAIN/SNOW POPS FOR POSSIBITILITY THAT THE CUTOFF LOW MAY MOVE BACK CLOSE ENOUGH TO SPREAD PCPN (DETERMINISTIC FCSTS EVEN HAVE AMOUNTS AOA AN INCH) BACK INTO THE WRN LAKES...PER 00Z/23 GFS AND 12Z/22 ECMWF. OTHER SOLUTION CLUSTERS THAT FAVOR A MORE PROGRESSIVE TROUGH OR A CUTOFF MUCH FARTHER SOUTH WOULD BRING DRY AND CONTINUED MILD WEATHER TO THE AREA. && .AVIATION /FOR THE 18Z TAF ISSUANCE/... AS HAS BEEN THE CASE OVER THE LAST COUPLE DAYS...MVFR/IFR CLOUDS CONTINUE TO BE THE CONCERN FOR THE TAF FORECASTS. CONFIDENCE IN FORECAST CONTINUES TO BE LOW AS WELL AS DOWNSLOPING POCKETS HAVE OPENED HOLES IN THE CLOUDS. THINKING INCREASED DAYTIME MIXING AND DRIER AIR OVER WRN MN WILL SCATTER THE CLOUDS OUT THIS AFTERNOON BEFORE REDEVELOPMENT WITH THE LOW CLOUDS AND FOG OCCURS AFTER SUNSET. WILL CONTINUE TO GO WITH PERSISTENCE FOR THE FORECAST AND HAVE CONDITIONS IMPROVING TO VFR THIS AFTERNOON...AND THEN QUICKLY DETERIORATE TO IFR THIS EVENING WITH REDEVELOPMENT OCCURING. LOOKS LIKE ON THU MORNING...DRY ENOUGH AIR ARRIVES TO SCOUT THE LOW CLOUDS AND FOG OUT ONCE AND FOR ALL WITH STRONGER WINDS ARRIVING. DID PUT LLWS IN ALL SITES AS STRONG WINDS DEVELOP TONIGHT ABOVE INVERSION. && .MARINE /FOR THE 4AM LAKE SUPERIOR FORECAST ISSUANCE/... HIGH PRESSURE RIDGE CURRENTLY OVER LAKE SUPERIOR WILL SHIFT EAST TODAY AS A LOW MOVES THROUGH SOUTHERN CANADA. THIS WILL LEAD TO INCREASING SOUTHWESTERLY WINDS TODAY...INCLUDING A FEW GALE FORCE GUSTS TO 35 KNOTS THIS AFTN NEAR ISLE ROYALE BEFORE THE INVERSION INTENSIFIES TONIGHT. WITH THE HIGH OVER THE SERN U.S. AND A SECOND LOW MOVING THROUGH SOUTHERN CANADA TONIGHT INTO THURSDAY NIGHT...EXPECT SOUTHWEST WINDS OF 15-25KTS TO CONTINUE. A SURFACE TROUGH WILL SLIDE OVER LAKE SUPERIOR ON FRIDAY...DIMINISHING THE SOUTHEASTERLY WINDS BELOW 15KTS. THIS TROUGH WILL LAY THE FOUNDATION FOR A LOW DEVELOPING OVER THE CENTRAL PLAINS ON FRIDAY AND MOVING INTO THE UPPER GREAT LAKES BY SATURDAY NIGHT. THIS COULD PRODUCE A FEW NORTH-NORTHWEST GALES TO 35KTS SAT NIGHT INTO SUN MORNING. && .MQT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... UPPER MICHIGAN... NONE. LAKE SUPERIOR... NONE. LAKE MICHIGAN... NONE. && $$ SYNOPSIS...JLB DISCUSSION...JLB AVIATION...07 MARINE...SRF
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS MARQUETTE MI
631 AM EST WED NOV 23 2011 UPDATED AVIATION DISCUSSION FOR 12Z TAFS .SYNOPSIS... WV IMAGERY AND RUC ANALYSIS INDICATED A BROAD MID/UPPER LEVEL RIDGE OVER THE WRN CONUS GRADUALLY EXPANDING TOWARD THE WRN GREAT LAKES. A SHRTWV ATOP THE RIDGE WAS MOVING THROUGH CNTRL MANITOBA. AT THE SFC...A RIDGE PERSITED OVER THE WRN LAKES BTWN A 997 MB LOW NEAR LAKE WINNIPEG AND A 1001 MB LOW OVER NW PA. WRLY 925-900 MB WINDS WERE HELPING TO PUSH A STRATUS DECK EASTWARD THROUGH CENTRL UPPER MI. && .DISCUSSION TODAY...EXPECT THAT AS THE MANITOBA LOW PRES SLIDS OFF TO THE EAST THROUGH NRN ONTARIO...THE INCREASING WRLY LOW LEVEL FLOW WILL BRING THE BACK EDGE OF THE CLOUD DECK(CURRENTLY OVER NW MN) THROUGH THE CWA BY EARLY THIS AFTERNOON...PER RUC 925 MB RH PROG. LIMITED DIURNAL HEATING SHOULD ALSO HELP TO DISSIPATE THE LOWER CLOUDS. HOWEVER...GIVEN THE TRENDS FROM THE LAST SEVERAL DAYS...CONFIDENCE WITH THE TIMING OF CLEARING IS LOW AND CLEARING MAY BE DELAYED. WAA AND SOME SUNSHINE SHOULD HELP BOOST TEMPS INTO THE LOWER 40S. TONIGHT...WITH UPSTREAM DEWPOINTS INTO THE LOWER 30S AND MOISTURE FROM MELTING SNOW OVER THE WEST...RADIATIONAL COOLING WILL LEAD TO AREAS OF FOG OVER INLAND LOCATIONS AS MIN TEMPS ALSO FALL INTO THE LOWER 30S. THURSDAY INTO FRIDAY...UNSEASONABLY MILD CONDITIONS WILL DEVELOP AS SW WINDS BRING IN MUCH WARMER AIR. WITH 925 MB TEMPS CLIMBING TO AROUND 10C...A VERY STRONG INVERSION WILL DEVELOP. MAX TEMPS WILL DEPEND ON HOW QUICKLY ANY MORNING FOG/STRATUS BURNS OFF AND THE MIXING DEPTH. EVEN WITH LATE NOV SUN ANGLE AND A VERY STABLE SFC-900 MB LAYER...EXPECT ENOUGH MIXING FOR TEMPS ABOVE CONS GUIDANCE VALUES...CLIMBING TO AROUND 50. AREAS WITH DOWNSLOPE SW WINDS SHOULD SEE READINGS INTO AT LEAST THE MID 50S. THIS MAY END UP JUST A BIT SHORT OF THE 55 DEGREE RECORD FROM 1984 AT NWS MQT. MIN TEMPS WILL ALSO REMAIN WELL ABOVE NORMAL THU NIGHT WITH READINGS INT THE UPPER 30S TO AROUND 40. INCREASING CLOUDS AS WEAK TROUGH/FRONT SAGS INTO THE AREA WILL KEEP MAX TEMPS IN THE 40S. SATURDAY...THE GFS/ECMWF WERE IN REASONABLE AGREEMENT WITH THE PROGRESSIVE MID LEVEL TROUGH AND THE SFC LOW DEVELOPING OVER THE PLAINS AND MOVING INTO WRN WI BY 12Z SAT. STRONG MOISTURE INFLOW WITH PWAT VALUES TO 0.75-1.00 AND 295K-300K ISENTROPIC LIFT AHEAD OF THE LOW SUPPORT LIKELY RAIN CHANCES OVER THE AREA. MODELS SUGGEST THAT CAA IN THE WAKE OF THE LOW WILL BE STRONG ENOUGH FOR A CHANGEOVER TO SNOW AND POSSIBLY LAKE ENHANCED SNOW LATE SAT NIGHT INTO SUN MORNING. SUN-TUE...GFS/ECWMF AND RESPECTIVE ENSEMBLES SOLUTIONS SPREAD BECOMES VERY LARGE AS MODELS HAVE DIFFICULTY DETERMING WHETHER A CUTOFF SRN STREAM LOW WILL DEVELOP AND WHERE IT WILL MOVE. WITH LOW CONFIDENCE IN ANY PARTICULAR SCENARIO...FCST INCLUDES CHANCE RAIN/SNOW POPS FOR POSSIBITILITY THAT THE CUTOFF LOW MAY MOVE BACK CLOSE ENOUGH TO SPREAD PCPN (DETERMINISTIC FCSTS EVEN HAVE AMOUNTS AOA AN INCH) BACK INTO THE WRN LAKES...PER 00Z/23 GFS AND 12Z/22 ECMWF. OTHER SOLUTION CLUSTERS THAT FAVOR A MORE PROGRESSIVE TROUGH OR A CUTOFF MUCH FARTHER SOUTH WOULD BRING DRY AND CONTINUED MILD WEATHER TO THE AREA. && .AVIATION /FOR THE 12Z TAF ISSUANCE/... AS HAS BEEN THE CASE OVER THE LAST COUPLE DAYS...MVFR/IFR CLOUDS CONTINUE TO BE THE CONCERN FOR THE TAF FORECASTS. BROAD AREA OF CLOUDS SLID BACK OVER THE AREA THIS EVENING AND SHOULD CONTINUE INTO THE FIRST PART OF THE AFTN. THINKING INCREASED DAYTIME MIXING AND DRIER AIR OVER WRN MN WILL SCATTER THE CLOUDS OUT. IF THEY DON/T CLEAR OUT HEADING INTO TONIGHT...WOULD LIKELY SEE THEM SETTLE IN THROUGH THE PERIOD. IF SKIES CLEAR OUT...COULD SEE SOME FOG OVER KSAW. KIWD/KCMX WILL BE LESS LIKELY WITH STRONGER WINDS AS HIGH PRESSURE RIDGE SHIFTS EAST. && .MARINE /FOR THE 4AM LAKE SUPERIOR FORECAST ISSUANCE/... HIGH PRESSURE RIDGE CURRENTLY OVER LAKE SUPERIOR WILL SHIFT EAST TODAY AS A LOW MOVES THROUGH SOUTHERN CANADA. THIS WILL LEAD TO INCREASING SOUTHWESTERLY WINDS TODAY...INCLUDING A FEW GALE FORCE GUSTS TO 35 KNOTS THIS AFTN NEAR ISLE ROYALE BEFORE THE INVERSION INTENSIFIES TONIGHT. WITH THE HIGH OVER THE SERN U.S. AND A SECOND LOW MOVING THROUGH SOUTHERN CANADA TONIGHT INTO THURSDAY NIGHT...EXPECT SOUTHWEST WINDS OF 15-25KTS TO CONTINUE. A SURFACE TROUGH WILL SLIDE OVER LAKE SUPERIOR ON FRIDAY...DIMINISHING THE SOUTHEASTERLY WINDS BELOW 15KTS. THIS TROUGH WILL LAY THE FOUNDATION FOR A LOW DEVELOPING OVER THE CENTRAL PLAINS ON FRIDAY AND MOVING INTO THE UPPER GREAT LAKES BY SATURDAY NIGHT. THIS COULD PRODUCE A FEW NORTH-NORTHWEST GALES TO 35KTS SAT NIGHT INTO SUN MORNING. && .MQT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... UPPER MICHIGAN... NONE. LAKE SUPERIOR... NONE. LAKE MICHIGAN... NONE. && $$ SYNOPSIS...JLB DISCUSSION...JLB AVIATION...SRF MARINE...SRF
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS MARQUETTE MI
546 AM EST WED NOV 23 2011 .SYNOPSIS... WV IMAGERY AND RUC ANALYSIS INDICATED A BROAD MID/UPPER LEVEL RIDGE OVER THE WRN CONUS GRADUALLY EXPANDING TOWARD THE WRN GREAT LAKES. A SHRTWV ATOP THE RIDGE WAS MOVING THROUGH CNTRL MANITOBA. AT THE SFC...A RIDGE PERSITED OVER THE WRN LAKES BTWN A 997 MB LOW NEAR LAKE WINNIPEG AND A 1001 MB LOW OVER NW PA. WRLY 925-900 MB WINDS WERE HELPING TO PUSH A STRATUS DECK EASTWARD THROUGH CENTRL UPPER MI. && .DISCUSSION TODAY...EXPECT THAT AS THE MANITOBA LOW PRES SLIDS OFF TO THE EAST THROUGH NRN ONTARIO...THE INCREASING WRLY LOW LEVEL FLOW WILL BRING THE BACK EDGE OF THE CLOUD DECK(CURRENTLY OVER NW MN) THROUGH THE CWA BY EARLY THIS AFTERNOON...PER RUC 925 MB RH PROG. LIMITED DIURNAL HEATING SHOULD ALSO HELP TO DISSIPATE THE LOWER CLOUDS. HOWEVER...GIVEN THE TRENDS FROM THE LAST SEVERAL DAYS...CONFIDENCE WITH THE TIMING OF CLEARING IS LOW AND CLEARING MAY BE DELAYED. WAA AND SOME SUNSHINE SHOULD HELP BOOST TEMPS INTO THE LOWER 40S. TONIGHT...WITH UPSTREAM DEWPOINTS INTO THE LOWER 30S AND MOISTURE FROM MELTING SNOW OVER THE WEST...RADIATIONAL COOLING WILL LEAD TO AREAS OF FOG OVER INLAND LOCATIONS AS MIN TEMPS ALSO FALL INTO THE LOWER 30S. THURSDAY INTO FRIDAY...UNSEASONABLY MILD CONDITIONS WILL DEVELOP AS SW WINDS BRING IN MUCH WARMER AIR. WITH 925 MB TEMPS CLIMBING TO AROUND 10C...A VERY STRONG INVERSION WILL DEVELOP. MAX TEMPS WILL DEPEND ON HOW QUICKLY ANY MORNING FOG/STRATUS BURNS OFF AND THE MIXING DEPTH. EVEN WITH LATE NOV SUN ANGLE AND A VERY STABLE SFC-900 MB LAYER...EXPECT ENOUGH MIXING FOR TEMPS ABOVE CONS GUIDANCE VALUES...CLIMBING TO AROUND 50. AREAS WITH DOWNSLOPE SW WINDS SHOULD SEE READINGS INTO AT LEAST THE MID 50S. THIS MAY END UP JUST A BIT SHORT OF THE 55 DEGREE RECORD FROM 1984 AT NWS MQT. MIN TEMPS WILL ALSO REMAIN WELL ABOVE NORMAL THU NIGHT WITH READINGS INT THE UPPER 30S TO AROUND 40. INCREASING CLOUDS AS WEAK TROUGH/FRONT SAGS INTO THE AREA WILL KEEP MAX TEMPS IN THE 40S. SATURDAY...THE GFS/ECMWF WERE IN REASONABLE AGREEMENT WITH THE PROGRESSIVE MID LEVEL TROUGH AND THE SFC LOW DEVELOPING OVER THE PLAINS AND MOVING INTO WRN WI BY 12Z SAT. STRONG MOISTURE INFLOW WITH PWAT VALUES TO 0.75-1.00 AND 295K-300K ISENTROPIC LIFT AHEAD OF THE LOW SUPPORT LIKELY RAIN CHANCES OVER THE AREA. MODELS SUGGEST THAT CAA IN THE WAKE OF THE LOW WILL BE STRONG ENOUGH FOR A CHANGEOVER TO SNOW AND POSSIBLY LAKE ENHANCED SNOW LATE SAT NIGHT INTO SUN MORNING. SUN-TUE...GFS/ECWMF AND RESPECTIVE ENSEMBLES SOLUTIONS SPREAD BECOMES VERY LARGE AS MODELS HAVE DIFFICULTY DETERMING WHETHER A CUTOFF SRN STREAM LOW WILL DEVELOP AND WHERE IT WILL MOVE. WITH LOW CONFIDENCE IN ANY PARTICULAR SCENARIO...FCST INCLUDES CHANCE RAIN/SNOW POPS FOR POSSIBITILITY THAT THE CUTOFF LOW MAY MOVE BACK CLOSE ENOUGH TO SPREAD PCPN (DETERMINISTIC FCSTS EVEN HAVE AMOUNTS AOA AN INCH) BACK INTO THE WRN LAKES...PER 00Z/23 GFS AND 12Z/22 ECMWF. OTHER SOLUTION CLUSTERS THAT FAVOR A MORE PROGRESSIVE TROUGH OR A CUTOFF MUCH FARTHER SOUTH WOULD BRING DRY AND CONTINUED MILD WEATHER TO THE AREA. && .AVIATION /FOR THE 12Z TAF ISSUANCE/... CHALLENGING FCST SHAPING FOR AT LEAST THE FIRST HALF OF THIS FCST PERIOD. SHALLOW MOISTURE TRAPPED UNDER INVERSION CONTINUES TO RESULT IN MVFR CIGS ACROSS THE UPPER LAKES. HOWEVER...THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT HOLES...WITH LOCAL DOWNSLOPING CONTRIBUTING. CIGS AT KCMX MAY SCATTER OUT IF DOWNSLOPING OFF THE HURON MTNS IN LIGHT SSE FLOW STRENGTHENS SUFFICIENTLY. AT KSAW...WOULD EXPECT MVFR CIGS TO PREVAIL INTO AT LEAST THE MORNING HRS AS LIGHT SSE UPSLOPE FLOW DEVELOPS. && .MARINE /FOR THE 4AM LAKE SUPERIOR FORECAST ISSUANCE/... HIGH PRESSURE RIDGE CURRENTLY OVER LAKE SUPERIOR WILL SHIFT EAST TODAY AS A LOW MOVES THROUGH SOUTHERN CANADA. THIS WILL LEAD TO INCREASING SOUTHWESTERLY WINDS TODAY...INCLUDING A FEW GALE FORCE GUSTS TO 35 KNOTS THIS AFTN NEAR ISLE ROYALE BEFORE THE INVERSION INTENSIFIES TONIGHT. WITH THE HIGH OVER THE SERN U.S. AND A SECOND LOW MOVING THROUGH SOUTHERN CANADA TONIGHT INTO THURSDAY NIGHT...EXPECT SOUTHWEST WINDS OF 15-25KTS TO CONTINUE. A SURFACE TROUGH WILL SLIDE OVER LAKE SUPERIOR ON FRIDAY...DIMINISHING THE SOUTHESTERLY WINDS BELOW 15KTS. THIS TROUGH WILL LAY THE FOUNDATION FOR A LOW DEVELOPING OVER THE CENTRAL PLAINS ON FRIDAY AND MOVING INTO THE UPPER GREAT LAKES BY SATURDAY NIGHT. THIS COULD PRODUCE A FEW NORTH-NORTHWEST GALES TO 35KTS SAT NIGHT INTO SUN MORNING. && .MQT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... UPPER MICHIGAN... NONE. LAKE SUPERIOR... NONE. LAKE MICHIGAN... NONE. && $$ SYNOPSIS...JLB DISCUSSION...JLB AVIATION...ROLFSON MARINE...SRF
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS NEWPORT/MOREHEAD CITY NC
715 AM EST WED NOV 23 2011 .SYNOPSIS... A STRONG COLD FRONT WILL MOVE ACROSS THE AREA FROM THE WEST THIS AFTERNOON...FOLLOWED BY A SECONDARY TROUGH FROM THE NORTH TONIGHT. STRONG COOL HIGH PRES WILL BUILD OVER THE REGION THU INTO THE WEEKEND. && .NEAR TERM /UNTIL 6 PM THIS EVENING/... AS OF 645 AM WEDNESDAY...SHOWERS AND ISOLD TSTMS MOVING ACROSS AREA WILL HOLD TOGETHER FOR ERN HALF OF AREA NEXT FEW HOURS...AND RAISED POPS TO CATEGORICAL E OF HWY 17. ISOLD SVR THREAT WILL PERSIST WITH 50 KT WINDS INDICATED AT 2K FEET BUT CELLS HAVE NOT BEEN DEEP ENOUGH TO MIX DOWN STRONGER WINDS. KEPT LIKELY POPS ALONG COAST EARLY AFTN UNTIL FRONT PASSES BUT 06Z NAM12 IS INDICATING PCPN ALL OFFSHORE BY 18Z. NO CHANGES TO TEMPS. /PREVIOUS DISCUSSION/ AS OF 300 AM WEDNESDAY...LEADING EDGE OF PRE-FRONTAL BAND OF SHOWERS JUST W OF COASTAL PLAINS WHILE SCT ACTIVITY JUST OFFSHORE TO S. INITIAL ACTIVITY WILL PRODUCE DECENT PCPN COVERAGE 4 AM-7 AM AND HAVE RAISED POPS ACCORDINGLY FOR WRN AND SRN SECTIONS. NO LIGHTNING OBSERVED UPSTREAM PAST HOUR OR SO AND WILL KEEP TSTM MENTION AS ISOLATED. SVR THREAT LOOKS MARGINAL AS WIND FIELDS ARE IMPRESSIVE BUT INSTABILITY WEAK. WILL GO WITH SOME CATEGORICAL POPS EARLY THIS MORNING BUT CAP AT LIKELY AFTER 7 AM DUE TO RECENT MODEL TRENDS SUPPORTED BY RADAR. LATEST NAM12 AND RUC13 ARE INDICATING ACTIVITY DEVELOPING JUST OFFSHORE 7 AM-10 AM WITH ACTIVITY OVER LAND DIMINISHING...WHICH IS FREQUENTLY SEEN AS OFFSHORE ACTION LIMITS INFLOW OVER LAND. ALSO REDUCED POPS REST OF DAY AS FRONT MOVING A LITTLE FASTER. RAISED MAX TEMPS A FEW DEGS IN LINE WITH LATEST MOS GDNC. && .SHORT TERM /6 PM THIS EVENING THROUGH 6 AM THURSDAY/... AS OF 300 AM WEDNESDAY...MAIN CHANGE TO PREVIOUS FCST WAS TO GO WITH MORE CLOUDS OVERNIGHT WITH MODELS INDICATING COLD AIR SCU WITH SECONDARY SHRT WV. KEPT 20-30 POPS FOR NE HALF OF AREA FOR PSBL LIGHT SHOWERS WITH THIS ACTIVITY. MOS BLEND FOR MIN TEMPS. && .LONG TERM /THURSDAY THROUGH TUESDAY/... AS OF 250 AM WED...VERY QUIET START TO THE PERIOD AND THROUGH THE WEEKEND AS SFC HIGH PRESSURE AND UPPER RIDGE BUILD OVER THE EAST COAST. LOW LEVEL THICKNESS VALUES AND NORTHERLY FLOW SUPPORT HIGHS THU IN THE UPPER 50S TO LOWER 60S. GOOD RADIATIONAL COOLING SETUP EXPECTED FOR THU NIGHT WITH CLEAR SKIES AND LIGHT WINDS...RESULTING IN OVERNIGHT LOWS IN THE 30S INLAND AND LOWER/MID 40S FOR THE OUTER BANKS. GRADUAL WARM UP EXPECTED FOR FRI INTO THE WEEKEND AS UPPER HEIGHTS BUILD...WITH HIGHS LIKELY IN THE MID/UPPER 60S. HIGH PRESSURE WILL MOVE OFFSHORE LATE SAT NIGHT INTO SUN AHEAD OF NEXT APPROACHING SYSTEM. MODELS COMING INTO BETTER AGREEMENT THAT THE TROUGH WILL BECOME CUT-OFF INVOF THE MID MISSISSIPPI RIVER VALLEY LATE SUN INTO MON BUT TIMING AND DETAIL OF THE MOVEMENT OF CUT-OFF LOWS IS ALWAYS TOUGH TO PREDICT BRINGING HIGHER THAN NORMAL UNCERTAINTY WITH THIS NEXT SYSTEM. WILL CONTINUE TO FOLLOW CLOSE TO HPC GUIDANCE WITH BEST CHANCE OF SHOWERS ARRIVING MON AND LINGERING INTO TUE. && .AVIATION /12Z WEDNESDAY THROUGH SUNDAY/... /SHORT TERM TODAY AND TONIGHT/... AS OF 630 AM WEDNESDAY...SHOWERS AND ISOLD TSTMS CURRENTLY AFFECTING AREA WITH MVFR AND LCL IFR WILL CONTINUE MOVING E THIS MORNING...WITH LINGERING SCT THREAT INTO EARLY AFTN. VFR EXPECTED LATE MORNING THROUGH AFTN BUT GUSTY WINDS WILL PERSIST INTO EVENING...WITH SW BECOMING W THIS AFTN AND SHIFTING TO NW LATE. SOME COLD AIR SCU LIKELY OVERNIGHT WITH SECONDARY SHRT WV...AND EXPECT A PERIOD OF CIGS NEAR 3K FT...THEN CLEARING LATE. /LONG TERM WEDNESDAY NIGHT THROUGH SUNDAY/... AS OF 250 AM WED...PREDOMINATE VFR CONDITIONS EXPECTED THROUGH THE PERIOD...THOUGH COULD SEE EACH MORNING WITH CLEAR SKIES AND LIGHT WINDS...BEST CHANCES WILL LIKELY BE SAT AND SUN MORNINGS AS RETURN FLOW AROUND THE SFC HIGH DEVELOPS. && .MARINE... /SHORT TERM TODAY AND TONIGHT/.. AS OF 700 AM WEDNESDAY...STRONGER SW WINDS HAVE DEVELOPED AS EXPECTED AHEAD OF FRONT AND SEAS ARE BUILDING AS WELL WITH 8 FT OBSERVED AT 41036. FCST ON TRACK WITH SCA ALL AREAS THROUGH TONIGHT WITH GALES EXPECTED WITH CAA SURGE N OF OCRACOKE INLET TONIGHT. /LONG TERM WEDNESDAY NIGHT THROUGH SUNDAY/... AS OF 250 AM WED...FREQUENT WIND GUSTS TO GALE FORCE WILL LIKELY CONTINUE THROUGH MID MORNING THU NORTH OF OCRACOKE. WINDS WILL GRADUALLY DIMINISH LATE THURSDAY MORNING AND CONTINUE THROUGH THE DAY AS HIGH PRESSURE BUILDS EASTWARD. AT THIS TIME HAVE SEAS PEAKING THURSDAY MORNING AT 8-11FT NORTH OF OCRACOKE AND 5-8FT SOUTH. NORTH OF CAPE HATTERAS COULD SEE A BRIEF PERIOD OF HIGH SURF CONDITIONS THURSDAY MORNING WITH POTENTIAL FOR MINOR OCEAN OVERWASH...THOUGH WILL BE CLOSE AND WILL LET LATER SHIFTS RE-EVALUATE. TWEAKED SCA END TIMES SLIGHTLY BASED ON LATEST SWAN/WAVEWATCH RUNS. SEAS WILL CONTINUE TO SUBSIDE LATE THU NIGHT INTO FRI. HIGH PRESSURE WILL CONTINUE TO BUILD E OVER THE REGION FRI THROUGH THE WEEKEND RESULTING IN BENIGN BOATING CONDITIONS. WINDS GENERALLY 15KT OR LESS AND SEAS 2-4FT. HIGH WILL MOVE OFFSHORE LATE SAT NIGHT INTO SUN RESULTING IN FLOW BECOMING PREDOMINATELY S/SE. && .MHX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... NC...NONE. MARINE...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY UNTIL 7 PM EST THURSDAY FOR AMZ135. SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY UNTIL 3 PM EST THURSDAY FOR AMZ130. GALE WARNING FROM 11 PM THIS EVENING TO 10 AM EST THURSDAY FOR AMZ150-152-154. SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY UNTIL 1 AM EST FRIDAY FOR AMZ156-158. && $$ SYNOPSIS...JBM NEAR TERM...JBM SHORT TERM...JBM LONG TERM...SK/CQD AVIATION...JBM/CQD MARINE...JBM/CQD
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS WILMINGTON NC
645 AM EST WED NOV 23 2011 .SYNOPSIS... RAIN SHOWERS AND A FEW THUNDERSTORMS CAN BE EXPECTED TODAY AS A COLD FRONT MOVES ACROSS THE AREA...FOLLOWED BY CLEARING AND COOLER CONDITIONS INTO THANKSGIVING DAY. TEMPERATURES WILL WARM INTO THE WEEKEND AS HIGH PRESSURE MOVES OFFSHORE. AN APPROACHING UPPER LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM WILL BRING UNSETTLED WEATHER TO THE REGION SUNDAY AND MONDAY. A COLD FRONT MAY IMPACT THE EASTERN CAROLINAS MID WEEK. && .NEAR TERM /THROUGH TONIGHT/... AS OF 645 AM WEDNESDAY...BACK EDGE OF THE AREA OF CONVECTION... RATHER THAN A LINE...IS NOW TRACKING ACROSS THE WESTERN PORTIONS OF THE ILM CWA. THE INDIVIDUAL ELEMENTS WITHIN THIS AREA CONTINUE TO RACE TO THE NE AT 35 TO 45 MPH. BY 10AM...THE MAIN AREA OF CONVECTION SHOULD BE OFF THE CAROLINA COASTS WITH ONLY RESIDUAL AND ISOLATED -SHRA TO CONTEND WITH OVER LAND UNTIL THE PASSAGE OF THE COLD FRONT ITSELF BY NOON-1 PM. LATEST HRRR MODEL WAS A BIG HELP IN DETERMINING THE COLD FRONTAL POSITIONING/MOVEMENT. SFC BASED INSTABILITY IS OF LITTLE HELP TO THIS CONVECTION ESPECIALLY WITH LACK OF INSOLATION. DIMINISHING THREAT FROM THE LOW LEVEL JET KINEMATICS FROM A 50+ KNOT LOW LEVEL JET...BEST SEEN USING 925MB PROGS. WILL CONTINUE THE THREAT FOR STRONG WIND GUSTS IN THE HWO...IE. 30-45 MPH FROM ANY OF THE ISOLATED STRONG STORMS. THE LATEST NAM AND HRRR INDICATE S WINDS BECOMING SW AFTER THE PASSAGE OF THIS CONVECTION...IE. SIMILAR TO THAT OF A PRE-FRONTAL TROF. THE COLD FRONTAL PASSAGE TO OCCUR DURING THE EARLY AFTERNOON TIME FRAME. FOLLOWED BY COLD AIR ADVECTION DELIVERED WITH GUSTY NW WINDS THROUGH TONIGHT. PARTIAL CLEARING WILL OCCUR THIS AFTERNOON... WITH COMPLETELY CLEAR SKIES OCCURRING OVERNIGHT ONCE THE PASSAGE OF THE 5H VORT OFF THE DELMARVA COAST. GIVEN LATEST TRENDS...MAX TEMPS TO OCCUR BEFORE OR AROUND NOON...WITH TEMPS FALLING THROUGH THE AFTERNOON. AS FOR MINS...CAA TO OCCUR ALL NIGHT WITH WINDS STAYING ACTIVE PREVENTING ANY RADIATIONAL COOLING EFFECTS. HAVE LEANED TOWARD THE HIGHER SIDE OF GUIDANCE FOR MINS TONIGHT. && .SHORT TERM /THURSDAY THROUGH FRIDAY NIGHT/... AS OF 345 PM WEDNESDAY...BY DAYBREAK THANKSGIVING BRISK COLD AIR ADVECTION IS ALREADY UNDERWAY AS A COLD FRONT CONTINUES TO SWEEP OFFSHORE. HENCE A BRIGHT AND COOL DAY ANTICIPATED THURSDAY WITH MAXIMUM TEMPERATURES HOLDING PRIMARILY IN THE MIDDLE 60S. IDEAL RADIATIONAL COOLING INTO PRE-DAWN FRIDAY MORNING AS HIGH PRESSURE SETTLES OVERHEAD...AND SOME INTERIOR LOCATIONS TO SEE FREEZING TEMPERATURES AT DAYBREAK FRIDAY. FRIDAY FAIR AND DRY...COMPARED TO THANKSGIVING 4-6 DEGREES F MILDER...AND LOWER 70S ANTICIPATED. IT APPEARS RADIATIONAL COOLING WILL REMAIN EFFICIENT FRIDAY NIGHT AS HIGH PRESSURE CENTERED OFFSHORE EXTENDED INTO THE AREA...AND MINS BY DAYBREAK SATURDAY SHOULD SEE WIDESPREAD LOW/MIDDLE 30S. && .LONG TERM /SATURDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY/... AS OF 345 AM WEDNESDAY...TEMPERATURE MODERATION THE MAIN STORY OVER THE WEEKEND. PROGRESSIVE RETURN FLOW AND THE APPROACH OF A CUTOFF LOW OVER THE GULF STATES...MAY BRING SCATTERED CONVECTIVE RAIN AND A FEW TSTMS SUNDAY AND MONDAY. THE UPPER LOW IS PROGGED BY BOTH THE ECMWF/GFS TO LIFT NORTH AND WEST OF OUR WARNING AREA BY TUESDAY ALLOWING DRY AIR TO WRAP AROUND THE SOUTHERN PORTIONS OF THE EXITING UPPER LOW. THUS POP VALUES WERE REDUCED THROUGH TUESDAY. APPEARS A COLD FRONT MAY IMPACT THE ARE NEXT WEDNESDAY. HAVE NOT INTRODUCED POP VALUES OF MENTION SINCE MODEL DIVERGENCE BECOME SIGNIFICANT BY DAY 7. && .AVIATION /12Z WEDNESDAY THROUGH SUNDAY/... AS OF 12Z...SHOWERS AND ISOLATED THUNDERSTORMS WILL CONTINUE TO CREATE MVFR AND BRIEF IFR. AROUND MIDDAY...CONDITIONS WILL SLOWLY IMPROVE WEST TO EAST TO VFR...CONTINUING THROUGH THE VALID PERIOD. CURRENT RADAR DEPICTS SCATTERED SHOWERS AND ISOLATED THUNDERSTORMS ACROSS THE ENTIRE CWA THIS MORNING AHEAD OF AN APPROACHING COLD FRONT. THIS ACTIVITY WILL TO CONTINUE TO PROPAGATE EASTWARD...WITH A BACK END OF THE SHRA/TSRA APPROACHING KFLO ATTM. BY MIDDAY...CONDITIONS WILL IMPROVE WEST TO EAST...AS GUSTY WINDS CONTINUE TO SWEEP ACROSS THE COASTAL PLAINS. SOUTHWEST WINDS WITH GUSTS UP TO AROUND 30KTS ARE ANTICIPATED OVER THE NEXT FEW HOURS...DECREASING SLIGHTLY BY THIS AFTERNOON. EXPECT A WINDSHIFT AS WELL WITH THE FROPA...FROM SOUTHWEST THIS MORNING TO NORTH-NORTHWEST THIS AFTERNOON THROUGH THE VALID PERIOD WITH WIND GUSTS SUBSIDING THIS EVENING. EXTENDED OUTLOOK...EXPECT VFR THROUGH PERIOD. && .MARINE... NEAR TERM /THROUGH TONIGHT/... AS OF 645 AM WEDNESDAY...COOL STABLE AIR OVER THE NEARSHORE WATERS HAS PREVENTING THE HIGHER WINDS JUST OFF THE DECK FROM MIXING TO THE SFC. HOWEVER...THE SFC PG HAS TIGHTENED AHEAD OF THE APPROACHING COLD FRONT ALLOWING SOUTH WINDS TO FINALLY INCREASE. THE HIGHER SEAS ACROSS THE WATERS EARLY THIS MORNING ARE FROM HIGHER WAVES LEACHING INTO THE ILM WATERS FROM OFFSHORE WHERE WINDS ALOFT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO MIX DOWN TO THE OCEAN SFC DUE TO SSTS IN THE 70S. PRE-FRONTAL TROF WILL ACCOMPANY THE PASSAGE OF THE CONVECTION THIS MORNING...VEERING WINDS FROM SOUTH TO SOUTHWEST. SFC PG WILL FURTHER TIGHTEN...WITH WINDS INCREASING TO 15-25 KT...WITH GUSTS UP TO 30 KT. THE COLD FRONTAL PASSAGE VIA NAM/HRRR TO OCCUR THIS AFTERNOON...FURTHER VEERING WINDS TO WEST DURING THE AFTERNOON...AND TO NORTHWEST TONIGHT. SFC PG REMAINS TIGHTENED AFTER FROPA BUT IS NOW ACCOMPANIED BY COLD AIR ADVECTION. THIS WILL FURTHER INCREASE WINDS TO 20 TO 30 KT...WITH FEW HIGHER GUSTS. THE GRADIENT WILL RELAX SOME LATE TONIGHT BUT CAA WILL CONTINUE...WITH WIND SPEEDS ONLY DROPPING TO 15-25 KT OVERNIGHT. SEAS WILL BE DOMINATED BY WIND WAVES...WITH THE TEMPORARILY LONGER FETCH THIS MORNING FROM S-SW WINDS AIDING SEA HEIGHTS IN THE 4 TO 8 FT RANGE...HIGHEST ACROSS THE SHOALS OFF CAPE FEAR. AVERAGE PERIODS IN THE 5 TO 7 SECOND RANGE. THE MUCH SHORTER FETCH TONIGHT UNDER OFFSHORE NW WINDS WILL DROP SEAS BACK TO THE 3 TO 6 FT RANGE...WITH AVERAGE PERIODS IN THE 4 TO 6 SECOND RANGE. SHORT TERM /THURSDAY THROUGH FRIDAY NIGHT/... AS OF 345 AM WEDNESDAY...DAYBREAK THANKSGIVING WILL LIKELY BE GREETED WITH SMALL CRAFT ADVISORIES IN BLUSTERY NW WIND FLOW MUCH OF THE DAY AS A COLD FRONT BOLTS FARTHER OFFSHORE. NW-N WIND GUSTS TO 25 KNOTS CAN BE EXPECTED MOST OF THE DAY...WITH ADVISORIES LIKELY DROPPING LATE THURSDAY SOMETIME. SIGNIFICANTLY LIGHTER WINDS FRIDAY AS HIGH PRESSURE AT THE SURFACE NEARS. THIS SHOULD RESULT IN NEARLY FLAT SEAS FRIDAY WITH LITTLE LONGER PERIOD SWELL IN THE MIX AND VERY MANAGEABLE BOATING WEATHER/CONDITIONS. LONG TERM /SATURDAY THROUGH MONDAY/... AS OF 345 AM WEDNESDAY...THIS PERIOD BEGINS IDEAL...BUT ENDS QUITE TURBULENT LATE IN THE PERIOD. NEAR CALM WIND CONDITIONS DAYBREAK SATURDAY WITH HIGH PRESSURE SETTLED OVERHEAD OF THE 0-20NM COASTAL WATERS...THUS DOCILE SEAS ANTICIPATED. RETURN WIND FLOW SAT NIGHT WILL BRING INCREASING SOUTHERLY WINDS INTO SUNDAY...PARTICULARLY DURING THE DAY SUNDAY AS A SURFACE LOW MOVES ACROSS GEORGIA INTO THE WESTERN CAROLINAS. THIS WILL BRING ADVISORY OR NEAR ADVISORY SOUTH WINDS TO OUR WATERS BY SUNDAY AFTERNOON OR NIGHT. STRONG WINDS ARE EXPECTED INTO MONDAY AS THE SFC LOW PASSES WEST OF THE WATERS TRACKING NORTHWARD. .ILM WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... SC...NONE. NC...NONE. MARINE...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY FROM 4 AM EARLY THIS MORNING TO 6 PM EST THURSDAY FOR AMZ250-252-254-256. && $$ NEAR TERM...DCH SHORT TERM...MJC LONG TERM...MJC AVIATION...SGL
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION...CORRECTED
NWS NEWPORT/MOREHEAD CITY NC
434 AM EST WED NOV 23 2011 .SYNOPSIS... A STRONG COLD FRONT WILL MOVE ACROSS THE AREA FROM THE WEST THIS AFTERNOON...FOLLOWED BY A SECONDARY TROUGH FROM THE NORTH TONIGHT. STRONG COOL HIGH PRES WILL BUILD OVER THE REGION THU INTO THE WEEKEND. && .NEAR TERM /UNTIL 6 PM THIS EVENING/... AS OF 300 AM WEDNESDAY...LEADING EDGE OF PRE-FRONTAL BAND OF SHOWERS JUST W OF COASTAL PLAINS WHILE SCT ACTIVITY JUST OFFSHORE TO S. INITIAL ACTIVITY WILL PRODUCE DECENT PCPN COVERAGE 4 AM-7 AM AND HAVE RAISED POPS ACCORDINGLY FOR WRN AND SRN SECTIONS. NO LIGHTNING OBSERVED UPSTREAM PAST HOUR OR SO AND WILL KEEP TSTM MENTION AS ISOLATED. SVR THREAT LOOKS MARGINAL AS WIND FIELDS ARE IMPRESSIVE BUT INSTABILITY WEAK. WILL GO WITH SOME CATEGORICAL POPS EARLY THIS MORNING BUT CAP AT LIKELY AFTER 7 AM DUE TO RECENT MODEL TRENDS SUPPORTED BY RADAR. LATEST NAM12 AND RUC13 ARE INDICATING ACTIVITY DEVELOPING JUST OFFSHORE 7 AM-10 AM WITH ACTIVITY OVER LAND DIMINISHING...WHICH IS FREQUENTLY SEEN AS OFFSHORE ACTION LIMITS INFLOW OVER LAND. ALSO REDUCED POPS REST OF DAY AS FRONT MOVING A LITTLE FASTER. RAISED MAX TEMPS A FEW DEGS IN LINE WITH LATEST MOS GDNC. && .SHORT TERM /6 PM THIS EVENING THROUGH 6 AM THURSDAY/... AS OF 300 AM WEDNESDAY...MAIN CHANGE TO PREVIOUS FCST WAS TO GO WITH MORE CLOUDS OVERNIGHT WITH MODELS INDICATING COLD AIR SCU WITH SECONDARY SHRT WV. KEPT 20-30 POPS FOR NE HALF OF AREA FOR PSBL LIGHT SHOWERS WITH THIS ACTIVITY. MOS BLEND FOR MIN TEMPS. && .LONG TERM /THURSDAY THROUGH TUESDAY/... AS OF 250 AM WED...VERY QUIET START TO THE PERIOD AND THROUGH THE WEEKEND AS SFC HIGH PRESSURE AND UPPER RIDGE BUILD OVER THE EAST COAST. LOW LEVEL THICKNESS VALUES AND NORTHERLY FLOW SUPPORT HIGHS THU IN THE UPPER 50S TO LOWER 60S. GOOD RADIATIONAL COOLING SETUP EXPECTED FOR THU NIGHT WITH CLEAR SKIES AND LIGHT WINDS...RESULTING IN OVERNIGHT LOWS IN THE 30S INLAND AND LOWER/MID 40S FOR THE OUTER BANKS. GRADUAL WARM UP EXPECTED FOR FRI INTO THE WEEKEND AS UPPER HEIGHTS BUILD...WITH HIGHS LIKELY IN THE MID/UPPER 60S. HIGH PRESSURE WILL MOVE OFFSHORE LATE SAT NIGHT INTO SUN AHEAD OF NEXT APPROACHING SYSTEM. MODELS COMING INTO BETTER AGREEMENT THAT THE TROUGH WILL BECOME CUT-OFF INVOF THE MID MISSISSIPPI RIVER VALLEY LATE SUN INTO MON BUT TIMING AND DETAIL OF THE MOVEMENT OF CUT-OFF LOWS IS ALWAYS TOUGH TO PREDICT BRINGING HIGHER THAN NORMAL UNCERTAINTY WITH THIS NEXT SYSTEM. WILL CONTINUE TO FOLLOW CLOSE TO HPC GUIDANCE WITH BEST CHANCE OF SHOWERS ARRIVING MON AND LINGERING INTO TUE. && .AVIATION /08Z WEDNESDAY THROUGH SUNDAY/... /SHORT TERM TONIGHT AND WEDNESDAY/... AS OF 100 AM WEDNESDAY...LATEST OBS INDICATE SOME SCU 2K-4K FT STARTING TO DEVELOPE WITH INCREASING SRLY FLOW...AND EXPECT PERIOD OF MVFR CIGS IN PRE-FRONTAL ENVIRONMENT...WHILE WINDS WILL LIMIT THREAT OF REDUCED VSBYS. SHWRS AND A FEW TSTMS MAY BEGIN TO AFFECT AREA 08Z-10Z BUT WILL MAINLY MOVE ACROSS REGION 11Z-16Z WITH PERIOD OF IFR VSBYS AND GUSTS TO 30 KT LIKELY WITH HEAVIEST ACTIVITY. WIND SHIFT TO NW AND DECREASING CLOUDS DURING AFTN WITH FRONTAL PASSAGE. SOME COLD AIR SCU LIKELY DURING EVENING WITH SECONDARY SHRT WV...AND COULD SEE A PERIOD OF CIGS NEAR 3K FT INTO OVERNIGHT. /LONG TERM WEDNESDAY NIGHT THROUGH SUNDAY/... AS OF 250 AM WED...PREDOMINATE VFR CONDITIONS EXPECTED THROUGH THE PERIOD...THOUGH COULD SEE EACH MORNING WITH CLEAR SKIES AND LIGHT WINDS...BEST CHANCES WILL LIKELY BE SAT AND SUN MORNINGS AS RETURN FLOW AROUND THE SFC HIGH DEVELOPS. && .MARINE... /SHORT TERM TODAY AND TONIGHT/.. AS OF 300 AM WEDNESDAY...WINDS ON TRACK FOR SCA CONDITIONS ALL AREAS BY MORNING AND ONLY MINOR CHANGES TO PREVIOUS FCST WINDS BASED ON MODEL BLEND. STRONG CAA SURGE TONIGHT WILL LIKELY LEAD TO AT LEAST FREQUENT GUSTS TO 35 KT NRN WATERS AND POSTED GALES. LATEST WW3 IN GENERAL AGREEMENT WITH PREVIOUS FCST SEAS. /LONG TERM WEDNESDAY NIGHT THROUGH SUNDAY/... AS OF 250 AM WED...FREQUENT WIND GUSTS TO GALE FORCE WILL LIKELY CONTINUE THROUGH MID MORNING THU NORTH OF OCRACOKE. WINDS WILL GRADUALLY DIMINISH LATE THURSDAY MORNING AND CONTINUE THROUGH THE DAY AS HIGH PRESSURE BUILDS EASTWARD. AT THIS TIME HAVE SEAS PEAKING THURSDAY MORNING AT 8-11FT NORTH OF OCRACOKE AND 5-8FT SOUTH. NORTH OF CAPE HATTERAS COULD SEE A BRIEF PERIOD OF HIGH SURF CONDITIONS THURSDAY MORNING WITH POTENTIAL FOR MINOR OCEAN OVERWASH...THOUGH WILL BE CLOSE AND WILL LET LATER SHIFTS RE-EVALUATE. TWEAKED SCA END TIMES SLIGHTLY BASED ON LATEST SWAN/WAVEWATCH RUNS. SEAS WILL CONTINUE TO SUBSIDE LATE THU NIGHT INTO FRI. HIGH PRESSURE WILL CONTINUE TO BUILD E OVER THE REGION FRI THROUGH THE WEEKEND RESULTING IN BENIGN BOATING CONDITIONS. WINDS GENERALLY 15KT OR LESS AND SEAS 2-4FT. HIGH WILL MOVE OFFSHORE LATE SAT NIGHT INTO SUN RESULTING IN FLOW BECOMING PREDOMINATELY S/SE. && .MHX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... NC...NONE. MARINE...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY UNTIL 7 PM EST THURSDAY FOR AMZ135. SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY UNTIL 3 PM EST THURSDAY FOR AMZ130. GALE WARNING FROM 11 PM THIS EVENING TO 10 AM EST THURSDAY FOR AMZ150-152-154. SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY UNTIL 1 AM EST FRIDAY FOR AMZ156-158. && $$ SYNOPSIS...JBM NEAR TERM...JBM SHORT TERM...JBM LONG TERM...SK/CQD AVIATION...JBM/CQD MARINE...JBM/CQD CORRECTED FOR SYNOPSIS
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS WILMINGTON NC
345 AM EST WED NOV 23 2011 .SYNOPSIS... RAIN SHOWERS AND A FEW THUNDERSTORMS CAN BE EXPECTED TODAY AS A COLD FRONT MOVES ACROSS THE AREA...FOLLOWED BY CLEARING AND COOLER CONDITIONS INTO THANKSGIVING DAY. TEMPERATURES WILL WARM INTO THE WEEKEND AS HIGH PRESSURE MOVES OFFSHORE. AN APPROACHING UPPER LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM WILL BRING UNSETTLED WEATHER TO THE REGION SUNDAY AND MONDAY. A COLD FRONT MAY IMPACT THE EASTERN CAROLINAS MID WEEK. && .NEAR TERM /THROUGH TONIGHT/... AS OF 345 AM WEDNESDAY...CONVECTION WELL AHEAD OF A COLD FRONT BEGINNING TO TRACK ACROSS THE WESTERN PORTIONS OF THE ILM CWA. THE BROKEN LINE OF CONVECTION IS MOVING EAST AT AROUND 25 MPH...WITH THE INDIVIDUAL CELLS WITHIN THE LINE MOVING NORTHEAST AT 30 TO 45 MPH. SFC BASED INSTABILITY IS OF LITTLE AID TO THIS CONVECTION ESPECIALLY WITH LACK OF INSOLATION. THE LOW LEVEL JET KINEMATICS FROM A 50+ KNOT LOW LEVEL JET...BEST SEEN AT 925MB PROGS...WILL CONTINUE THE THREAT FOR STRONG WIND GUSTS. ANY OF THE STRONGER UPDRAFT/DOWNDRAFT COUPLETS COULD BRIEFLY TAP THOSE LOW LEVEL WINDS AND BRING THEM BRIEFLY TO THE SFC. HOWEVER...THESE COUPLETS HAVE BEEN DIFFICULT TO COME BY AT THE MOMENT...AND LIKELY WILL CONTINUE FOR THE REMAINDER OF THIS ACTIVITY AS IT PUSHES OFF THE CAROLINA COASTS BY MIDDAY. WILL HIGHLIGHT IN THE HWO FOR POSSIBLE STRONG WIND GUSTS OF 30-45 MPH FROM ANY OF THE ISOLATED STRONG STORMS. THE LATEST NAM AND HRRR INDICATE S WINDS BECOMING SW AFTER THE PASSAGE OF THIS CONVECTION...IE. SIMILAR TO WHAT OCCURS DURING A PRE-FRONTAL TROF. THE COLD FRONTAL PASSAGE OCCURS DURING THE EARLY TO MID AFTERNOON TIME FRAME. FOLLOWED BY COLD AIR ADVECTION DELIVERED WITH GUSTY NW WINDS THROUGH TONIGHT. PARTIAL CLEARING WILL OCCUR THIS AFTERNOON...WITH COMPLETELY CLEAR SKIES OCCURRING OVERNIGHT ONCE THE PASSAGE OF THE 5H VORT OFF THE DELMARVA COAST. GIVEN LATEST TRENDS...MAX TEMPS TO OCCUR BEFORE OR AROUND NOON...WITH TEMPS FALLING THROUGH THE AFTERNOON. AS FOR MINS... CAA TO OCCUR ALL NIGHT WITH WINDS STAYING ACTIVE PREVENTING ANY RADIATIONAL COOLING EFFECTS. HAVE LEANED TOWARD THE HIGHER SIDE OF GUIDANCE FOR MINS TONIGHT. && .SHORT TERM /THURSDAY THROUGH FRIDAY NIGHT/... AS OF 345 PM WEDNESDAY...BY DAYBREAK THANKSGIVING BRISK COLD AIR ADVECTION IS ALREADY UNDERWAY AS A COLD FRONT CONTINUES TO SWEEP OFFSHORE. HENCE A BRIGHT AND COOL DAY ANTICIPATED THURSDAY WITH MAXIMUM TEMPERATURES HOLDING PRIMARILY IN THE MIDDLE 60S. IDEAL RADIATIONAL COOLING INTO PRE-DAWN FRIDAY MORNING AS HIGH PRESSURE SETTLES OVERHEAD...AND SOME INTERIOR LOCATIONS TO SEE FREEZING TEMPERATURES AT DAYBREAK FRIDAY. FRIDAY FAIR AND DRY...COMPARED TO THANKSGIVING 4-6 DEGREES F MILDER...AND LOWER 70S ANTICIPATED. IT APPEARS RADIATIONAL COOLING WILL REMAIN EFFICIENT FRIDAY NIGHT AS HIGH PRESSURE CENTERED OFFSHORE EXTENDED INTO THE AREA...AND MINS BY DAYBREAK SATURDAY SHOULD SEE WIDESPREAD LOW/MIDDLE 30S. && .LONG TERM /SATURDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY/... AS OF 345 AM WEDNESDAY...TEMPERATURE MODERATION THE MAIN STORY OVER THE WEEKEND. PROGRESSIVE RETURN FLOW AND THE APPROACH OF A CUTOFF LOW OVER THE GULF STATES...MAY BRING SCATTERED CONVECTIVE RAIN AND A FEW TSTMS SUNDAY AND MONDAY. THE UPPER LOW IS PROGGED BY BOTH THE ECMWF/GFS TO LIFT NORTH AND WEST OF OUR WARNING AREA BY TUESDAY ALLOWING DRY AIR TO WRAP AROUND THE SOUTHERN PORTIONS OF THE EXITING UPPER LOW. THUS POP VALUES WERE REDUCED THROUGH TUESDAY. APPEARS A COLD FRONT MAY IMPACT THE ARE NEXT WEDNESDAY. HAVE NOT INTRODUCED POP VALUES OF MENTION SINCE MODEL DIVERGENCE BECOME SIGNIFICANT BY DAY 7. && .AVIATION /06Z WEDNESDAY THROUGH SUNDAY/... AS OF 08Z...ACTUAL COLD FRONTAL PASSAGE SLATED FOR MIDDAY TODAY. PRE-FRONTAL TSRA/SHRA WILL RESULT IN A BRIEF IFR/LIFR CEILING/VSBY...WITH POSSIBLE WIND GUSTS UP TO 25 TO 40 KT FROM THE CONVECTION. WINDS TO VEER FROM S TO SW-W AFTER THE TROFS PASSAGE...AND INCREASE TO 15KT WITH GUSTS UP TO 25 KT. LOOK FOR CONVECTION TO EXIT THE COAST BY 14Z. THE COLD FRONTAL PASSAGE FROM WEST TO EAST...IS SLATED FOR MIDDAY TODAY. COULD SEE A STRAY SHRA ALONG THE ACTUAL FRONT WITH POSSIBLE IFR CEILINGS PRIOR TO ITS PASSAGE. FOR POST FRONTAL CONDITIONS...EXPECT A QUICK IMPROVEMENT TO VFR CEILINGS...WITH SKC COMMON BY SUNSET. GUSTY W TO NW WINDS WITH 10-20KT SUSTAINED...WITH GUSTS UP TO 25 TO 30 KT DURING THE AFTERNOON. WINDS TO DROP TO 10-15 KT AFTER SUNSET WITH GUSTS STILL UP TO 20 KT DURING THE EVENING. EXTENDED OUTLOOK...EXPECT VFR THROUGH PERIOD. && .MARINE... NEAR TERM /THROUGH TONIGHT/... AS OF 345 AM WEDNESDAY...COOL STABLE AIR OVER THE NEARSHORE WATERS HAS PREVENTING THE HIGHER WINDS JUST OFF THE DECK FROM MIXING TO THE SFC. HOWEVER...THE SFC PG HAS TIGHTENED AHEAD OF THE APPROACHING COLD FRONT ALLOWING SOUTH WINDS TO FINALLY INCREASE. THE HIGHER SEAS ACROSS THE WATERS EARLY THIS MORNING ARE FROM HIGHER WAVES LEACHING INTO THE ILM WATERS FROM OFFSHORE WHERE WINDS ALOFT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO MIX DOWN TO THE OCEAN SFC DUE TO SSTS IN THE 70S. PRE-FRONTAL TROF WILL ACCOMPANY THE PASSAGE OF THE CONVECTION THIS MORNING...VEERING WINDS FROM SOUTH TO SOUTHWEST. SFC PG WILL FURTHER TIGHTEN...WITH WINDS INCREASING TO 15-25 KT...WITH GUSTS UP TO 30 KT. THE COLD FRONTAL PASSAGE VIA NAM/HRRR TO OCCUR THIS AFTERNOON...FURTHER VEERING WINDS TO WEST DURING THE AFTERNOON...AND TO NORTHWEST TONIGHT. SFC PG REMAINS TIGHTENED AFTER FROPA BUT IS NOW ACCOMPANIED BY COLD AIR ADVECTION. THIS WILL FURTHER INCREASE WINDS TO 20 TO 30 KT...WITH FEW HIGHER GUSTS. THE GRADIENT WILL RELAX SOME LATE TONIGHT BUT CAA WILL CONTINUE...WITH WIND SPEEDS ONLY DROPPING TO 15-25 KT OVERNIGHT. SEAS WILL BE DOMINATED BY WIND WAVES...WITH THE TEMPORARILY LONGER FETCH THIS MORNING FROM S-SW WINDS AIDING SEA HEIGHTS IN THE 4 TO 8 FT RANGE...HIGHEST ACROSS THE SHOALS OFF CAPE FEAR. AVERAGE PERIODS IN THE 5 TO 7 SECOND RANGE. THE MUCH SHORTER FETCH TONIGHT UNDER OFFSHORE NW WINDS WILL DROP SEAS BACK TO THE 3 TO 6 FT RANGE...WITH AVERAGE PERIODS IN THE 4 TO 6 SECOND RANGE. SHORT TERM /THURSDAY THROUGH FRIDAY NIGHT/... AS OF 345 AM WEDNESDAY...DAYBREAK THANKSGIVING WILL LIKELY BE GREETED WITH SMALL CRAFT ADVISORIES IN BLUSTERY NW WIND FLOW MUCH OF THE DAY AS A COLD FRONT BOLTS FARTHER OFFSHORE. NW-N WIND GUSTS TO 25 KNOTS CAN BE EXPECTED MOST OF THE DAY...WITH ADVISORIES LIKELY DROPPING LATE THURSDAY SOMETIME. SIGNIFICANTLY LIGHTER WINDS FRIDAY AS HIGH PRESSURE AT THE SURFACE NEARS. THIS SHOULD RESULT IN NEARLY FLAT SEAS FRIDAY WITH LITTLE LONGER PERIOD SWELL IN THE MIX AND VERY MANAGEABLE BOATING WEATHER/CONDITIONS. LONG TERM /SATURDAY THROUGH MONDAY/... AS OF 345 AM WEDNESDAY...THIS PERIOD BEGINS IDEAL...BUT ENDS QUITE TURBULENT LATE IN THE PERIOD. NEAR CALM WIND CONDITIONS DAYBREAK SATURDAY WITH HIGH PRESSURE SETTLED OVERHEAD OF THE 0-20NM COASTAL WATERS...THUS DOCILE SEAS ANTICIPATED. RETURN WIND FLOW SAT NIGHT WILL BRING INCREASING SOUTHERLY WINDS INTO SUNDAY...PARTICULARLY DURING THE DAY SUNDAY AS A SURFACE LOW MOVES ACROSS GEORGIA INTO THE WESTERN CAROLINAS. THIS WILL BRING ADVISORY OR NEAR ADVISORY SOUTH WINDS TO OUR WATERS BY SUNDAY AFTERNOON OR NIGHT. STRONG WINDS ARE EXPECTED INTO MONDAY AS THE SFC LOW PASSES WEST OF THE WATERS TRACKING NORTHWARD. .ILM WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... SC...NONE. NC...NONE. MARINE...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY FROM 4 AM EARLY THIS MORNING TO 6 PM EST THURSDAY FOR AMZ250-252-254-256. && $$ NEAR TERM...DCH SHORT TERM...MJC LONG TERM...MJC AVIATION...DL/DCH
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS NEWPORT/MOREHEAD CITY NC
330 AM EST WED NOV 23 2011 .SYNOPSIS... A WARM FRONT WILL LIFT NORTH OF THE REGION TONIGHT AS A STRONG COLD FRONT SWEEPS EAST INTO EASTERN NORTH CAROLINA BY EARLY WEDNESDAY AND OFFSHORE BY WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON. STRONG COOL HIGH PRESSURE WILL BUILD ACROSS THE AREA THROUGH THE WEEKEND. ANOTHER COLD FRONT WILL CROSS THE REGION MONDAY. && .NEAR TERM /UNTIL 6 PM THIS EVENING/... AS OF 300 AM WEDNESDAY...LEADING EDGE OF PRE-FRONTAL BAND OF SHOWERS JUST W OF COASTAL PLAINS WHILE SCT ACTIVITY JUST OFFSHORE TO S. INITIAL ACTIVITY WILL PRODUCE DECENT PCPN COVERAGE 4 AM-7 AM AND HAVE RAISED POPS ACCORDINGLY FOR WRN AND SRN SECTIONS. NO LIGHTNING OBSERVED UPSTREAM PAST HOUR OR SO AND WILL KEEP TSTM MENTION AS ISOLATED. SVR THREAT LOOKS MARGINAL AS WIND FIELDS ARE IMPRESSIVE BUT INSTABILITY WEAK. WILL GO WITH SOME CATEGORICAL POPS EARLY THIS MORNING BUT CAP AT LIKELY AFTER 7 AM DUE TO RECENT MODEL TRENDS SUPPORTED BY RADAR. LATEST NAM12 AND RUC13 ARE INDICATING ACTIVITY DEVELOPING JUST OFFSHORE 7 AM-10 AM WITH ACTIVITY OVER LAND DIMINISHING...WHICH IS FREQUENTLY SEEN AS OFFSHORE ACTION LIMITS INFLOW OVER LAND. ALSO REDUCED POPS REST OF DAY AS FRONT MOVING A LITTLE FASTER. RAISED MAX TEMPS A FEW DEGS IN LINE WITH LATEST MOS GDNC. && .SHORT TERM /6 PM THIS EVENING THROUGH 6 AM THURSDAY/... AS OF 300 AM WEDNESDAY...MAIN CHANGE TO PREVIOUS FCST WAS TO GO WITH MORE CLOUDS OVERNIGHT WITH MODELS INDICATING COLD AIR SCU WITH SECONDARY SHRT WV. KEPT 20-30 POPS FOR NE HALF OF AREA FOR PSBL LIGHT SHOWERS WITH THIS ACTIVITY. MOS BLEND FOR MIN TEMPS. && .LONG TERM /THURSDAY THROUGH TUESDAY/... AS OF 250 AM WED...VERY QUIET START TO THE PERIOD AND THROUGH THE WEEKEND AS SFC HIGH PRESSURE AND UPPER RIDGE BUILD OVER THE EAST COAST. LOW LEVEL THICKNESS VALUES AND NORTHERLY FLOW SUPPORT HIGHS THU IN THE UPPER 50S TO LOWER 60S. GOOD RADIATIONAL COOLING SETUP EXPECTED FOR THU NIGHT WITH CLEAR SKIES AND LIGHT WINDS...RESULTING IN OVERNIGHT LOWS IN THE 30S INLAND AND LOWER/MID 40S FOR THE OUTER BANKS. GRADUAL WARM UP EXPECTED FOR FRI INTO THE WEEKEND AS UPPER HEIGHTS BUILD...WITH HIGHS LIKELY IN THE MID/UPPER 60S. HIGH PRESSURE WILL MOVE OFFSHORE LATE SAT NIGHT INTO SUN AHEAD OF NEXT APPROACHING SYSTEM. MODELS COMING INTO BETTER AGREEMENT THAT THE TROUGH WILL BECOME CUT-OFF INVOF THE MID MISSISSIPPI RIVER VALLEY LATE SUN INTO MON BUT TIMING AND DETAIL OF THE MOVEMENT OF CUT-OFF LOWS IS ALWAYS TOUGH TO PREDICT BRINGING HIGHER THAN NORMAL UNCERTAINTY WITH THIS NEXT SYSTEM. WILL CONTINUE TO FOLLOW CLOSE TO HPC GUIDANCE WITH BEST CHANCE OF SHOWERS ARRIVING MON AND LINGERING INTO TUE. && .AVIATION /08Z WEDNESDAY THROUGH SUNDAY/... /SHORT TERM TONIGHT AND WEDNESDAY/... AS OF 100 AM WEDNESDAY...LATEST OBS INDICATE SOME SCU 2K-4K FT STARTING TO DEVELOPE WITH INCREASING SRLY FLOW...AND EXPECT PERIOD OF MVFR CIGS IN PRE-FRONTAL ENVIRONMENT...WHILE WINDS WILL LIMIT THREAT OF REDUCED VSBYS. SHWRS AND A FEW TSTMS MAY BEGIN TO AFFECT AREA 08Z-10Z BUT WILL MAINLY MOVE ACROSS REGION 11Z-16Z WITH PERIOD OF IFR VSBYS AND GUSTS TO 30 KT LIKELY WITH HEAVIEST ACTIVITY. WIND SHIFT TO NW AND DECREASING CLOUDS DURING AFTN WITH FRONTAL PASSAGE. SOME COLD AIR SCU LIKELY DURING EVENING WITH SECONDARY SHRT WV...AND COULD SEE A PERIOD OF CIGS NEAR 3K FT INTO OVERNIGHT. /LONG TERM WEDNESDAY NIGHT THROUGH SUNDAY/... AS OF 250 AM WED...PREDOMINATE VFR CONDITIONS EXPECTED THROUGH THE PERIOD...THOUGH COULD SEE EACH MORNING WITH CLEAR SKIES AND LIGHT WINDS...BEST CHANCES WILL LIKELY BE SAT AND SUN MORNINGS AS RETURN FLOW AROUND THE SFC HIGH DEVELOPS. && .MARINE... /SHORT TERM TODAY AND TONIGHT/.. AS OF 300 AM WEDNESDAY...WINDS ON TRACK FOR SCA CONDITIONS ALL AREAS BY MORNING AND ONLY MINOR CHANGES TO PREVIOUS FCST WINDS BASED ON MODEL BLEND. STRONG CAA SURGE TONIGHT WILL LIKELY LEAD TO AT LEAST FREQUENT GUSTS TO 35 KT NRN WATERS AND POSTED GALES. LATEST WW3 IN GENERAL AGREEMENT WITH PREVIOUS FCST SEAS. /LONG TERM WEDNESDAY NIGHT THROUGH SUNDAY/... AS OF 250 AM WED...FREQUENT WIND GUSTS TO GALE FORCE WILL LIKELY CONTINUE THROUGH MID MORNING THU NORTH OF OCRACOKE. WINDS WILL GRADUALLY DIMINISH LATE THURSDAY MORNING AND CONTINUE THROUGH THE DAY AS HIGH PRESSURE BUILDS EASTWARD. AT THIS TIME HAVE SEAS PEAKING THURSDAY MORNING AT 8-11FT NORTH OF OCRACOKE AND 5-8FT SOUTH. NORTH OF CAPE HATTERAS COULD SEE A BRIEF PERIOD OF HIGH SURF CONDITIONS THURSDAY MORNING WITH POTENTIAL FOR MINOR OCEAN OVERWASH...THOUGH WILL BE CLOSE AND WILL LET LATER SHIFTS RE-EVALUATE. TWEAKED SCA END TIMES SLIGHTLY BASED ON LATEST SWAN/WAVEWATCH RUNS. SEAS WILL CONTINUE TO SUBSIDE LATE THU NIGHT INTO FRI. HIGH PRESSURE WILL CONTINUE TO BUILD E OVER THE REGION FRI THROUGH THE WEEKEND RESULTING IN BENIGN BOATING CONDITIONS. WINDS GENERALLY 15KT OR LESS AND SEAS 2-4FT. HIGH WILL MOVE OFFSHORE LATE SAT NIGHT INTO SUN RESULTING IN FLOW BECOMING PREDOMINATELY S/SE. && .MHX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... NC...NONE. MARINE...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY UNTIL 7 PM EST THURSDAY FOR AMZ135. SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY UNTIL 3 PM EST THURSDAY FOR AMZ130. GALE WARNING FROM 11 PM THIS EVENING TO 10 AM EST THURSDAY FOR AMZ150-152-154. SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY UNTIL 1 AM EST FRIDAY FOR AMZ156-158. && $$ SYNOPSIS...JBM NEAR TERM...JBM SHORT TERM...JBM LONG TERM...SK/CQD AVIATION...JBM/CQD MARINE...JBM/CQD
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS WILMINGTON NC
1244 AM EST WED NOV 23 2011 .SYNOPSIS... SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS ARE EXPECTED AHEAD OF A STRONG COLD FRONT LATE TONIGHT INTO WEDNESDAY MORNING. HIGH PRESSURE WILL BUILD IN FOR THANKSGIVING INTO THE WEEKEND. COOL TEMPERATURES WILL BEGIN TO MODERATE EARLY NEXT WEEK. ANOTHER STORM SYSTEM WILL AFFECT THE AREA LATE SUNDAY BRINGING ANOTHER CHANCE OF RAIN WITH BELOW NORMAL TEMPERATURES EARLY NEXT WEEK. && .NEAR TERM /THROUGH TONIGHT/... AS OF 11 PM TUESDAY...NO SIGNIFICANT UPDATES HAVE BEEN MADE TO THE FORECAST THIS EVENING. THE SQUALL LINE IS PROGRESSING EAST IN CLOSE AGREEMENT WITH THE 23Z/00Z HRRR...PERHAPS A LITTLE FASTER THAN SHOWN ON THE 01Z HRRR. THROUGH DAYBREAK POPS RANGE FROM NEAR 100 PERCENT WEST OF I-95 TO AROUND 40 PERCENT ON THE COAST. PREVIOUS DISCUSSION FROM 9 PM FOLLOWS... WE ARE CLOSELY WATCHING RADAR LOOPS OF THE SQUALL LINE ACROSS NORTHERN GEORGIA AS IT CONTINUES SLIDING EAST TOWARD THE CAROLINAS. SURFACE-BASED PARCELS ARE BECOMING CONVECTIVELY CAPPED AS SURFACE TEMPERATURES FALL IN THE 60S OR NEAR 70 DEGREES...BUT FORECAST SOUNDINGS OFF THE GFS AND NAM SHOW CAPE 600-900 J/KG AND ONLY SMALL INHIBITION WHEN PARCELS AROUND 950 MB ARE LIFTED. THE LAST SEVERAL RUNS OF THE HRRR ARE HELPING US PIN DOWN THE TIMING OF THIS FEATURE AS IT PUSHES TOWARD THE COAST LATE TONIGHT. THE MAIN LINE OF STORMS SHOULD REACH THE FLORENCE AND DARLINGTON VICINITY AROUND 09Z/4 AM EST...THE SOUTH CAROLINA COAST FROM 11-12Z/6-7 AM EST...AND THE NORTH CAROLINA COAST BETWEEN 12-13Z/7-8 AM EST. OF CONCERN IS ALSO A SMALL AREA OF CONVECTION NOTED ALONG THE GEORGIA COAST THIS EVENING. THE LAST SEVERAL HRRR RUNS LATCH ONTO THIS AND DEVELOP IT INTO A LARGER CONVECTIVE CLUSTER THAT RIDES UP THE SC AND NC COASTAL STRIP BETWEEN MIDNIGHT AND 4 AM. GIVEN THE MEAGER APPEARANCE ON RADAR WE ARE NOT JUMPING ON THIS SOLUTION YET...AND PREFER TO HOLD THE HIGHEST POPS UNTIL THE MAIN AREA OF STORMS ARRIVE TOWARD MORNING. IN TERMS OF SEVERE WEATHER POTENTIAL WE CAN CONTRAST THIS SITUATION TO THE WEATHER SYSTEM LAST WEEK THAT PRODUCED TORNADOES ACROSS THE PIEDMONT REGION AND WIND DAMAGE ACROSS THE COASTAL PLAIN. LAST WEEK`S SYSTEM HAD A VERY FAVORABLY POSITIONED UPPER JET WHICH PROVIDED EFFICIENT VENTILATION FOR STORMS AND AIDED SYNOPTIC LIFT. LAPSE RATES FROM 800 THROUGH 300 MB WERE ALSO QUITE STEEP WHICH HELPED ACCELERATE PARCELS AND PRODUCED VERY DEEP CONVECTION FOR THE SEASON. NEITHER OF THESE TWO FACTORS ARE PRESENT TONIGHT OR IN THE MORNING WHICH LEADS US TO BELIEVE SEVERE WEATHER POTENTIAL IS LESS. THE ONLY FACTOR THAT CONCERNS US ABOUT POTENTIAL SEVERE WEATHER IS VERY STRONG WIND FIELDS...50 KNOTS AS LOW AS 2300 FT AGL...WHICH COULD BE TRANSPORTED DOWN TO THE GROUND IN CONVECTIVE DOWNDRAFTS. LOWS TONIGHT ARE PROBABLY OCCURRING IN MOST AREAS AS I TYPE...MID 60S FOR MOST AREAS. INCREASING LOW-LEVEL WINDS AND CLOUD COVERAGE SHOULD ALLOW TEMPERATURES TO RISE A COUPLE OF DEGREES BEFORE THE STORMS ARRIVE. WEST OF I-95 LOWS MAY OCCUR LATE TONIGHT AS THE CONVECTIVE BAND PUSHES THROUGH. && .SHORT TERM /WEDNESDAY THROUGH THURSDAY NIGHT/... AS OF 3 PM TUESDAY...A PRE-FRONTAL TROUGH SHOULD BE MAKING ITS WAY ACROSS THE FORECAST AREA BY/DURING WED MORNING WITH THE PASSAGE OF A STRONG COLD FRONT LATE MORNING AND EARLY AFTERNOON. SURFACE BASED INSTABILITY WILL BE VERY MODEST...WHICH SHOULD AID IN KEEPING 60 KT JET FROM MIXING TO THE SURFACE WED MORNING. HIGH AND DEEP MOISTURE CONTENT WILL BE IN PLACE AND WITH FRONTAL LIFT...WILL KEEP POPS IN THE HIGH LIKELY TO CATEGORICAL RANGE. SHOWERS ARE EXPECTED WITH SOME OF THE STRONGEST CONVECTION CONTAINING THUNDER AND PERHAPS SOME GUSTY WINDS. STRONG COLD AND DRY AIR ADVECTION WILL NOT ENSUE UNTIL AFTER FRONTAL PASSAGE. UNLIKE THE LAST STRONG COLD FRONT...TEMPS ARE NOT EXPECTED TO FALL SIGNIFICANTLY THROUGH THE DAYLIGHT HOURS. STRONG GUSTY SW WINDS ON WED WILL SHIFT TO NW WITH FRONTAL PASSAGE AND THESE GUSTY WINDS WILL PERSIST INTO WED NIGHT. TEMPS ON WED...IN THE LOWER 70S WILL BE ABOUT 10 DEG COLDER ON THU. LOWS WED NIGHT AROUND 40 WILL BE IN THE 30S THU NIGHT WITH SOME BELOW FREEZING TEMPS IN A FEW PLACES AS STRONG RADIATIONAL COOLING DEVELOPS DURING THE EVE. && .LONG TERM /FRIDAY THROUGH TUESDAY/... AS OF 3 PM TUESDAY...THE LONG TERM STARTS OUT VERY QUIET BUT MAY END ON A RATHER TUMULTUOUS NOTE. SURFACE HIGH PRESSURE SPREAD ACROSS THE SOUTHEAST ON FRIDAY WILL MIGRATE EASTWARD ON SATURDAY. RIDGING ALOFT WILL FOLLOW CLOSELY IN PHASE WITH THE SURFACE ANTICYCLONE. TWO UPPER SYSTEMS PHASE FRIDAY NIGHT INTO SATURDAY JUST EAST OF THE ROCKIES AND THE RESULTING FULL LATITUDE TROUGH WILL SHARPEN FURTHER ON SUNDAY...SLOWING ITS EASTWARD PROGRESSION. FRIDAY THROUGH SUNDAY WILL THUS BRING ABOVE CLIMO TEMPS THAT WILL SHOW A SLIGHT WARMING TREND EACH DAY. THE DOWNSTREAM RIDGING AT THE SURFACE AND ALOFT WILL HOLD ITS GROUND ACROSS THE CAROLINAS AND MOISTURE FLUX AHEAD OF THIS SYSTEM WILL BE DELAYED UNTIL A FEW HOURS PRIOR TO ITS ARRIVAL ALTHOUGH IT WILL BE VIGOROUS ONCE IT ARRIVES. CURRENTLY THIS APPEARS TO BE EITHER SUNDAY EVENING OR OVERNIGHT...WITH SOME VARIOUS SENSES OF TIMING OFFERED BY DIFFERENT MODELS. GIVEN THE STRENGTH OF THE AFOREMENTIONED DOWNSTREAM UPPER RIDGE THE SLOWER TIMING SEEMS TO HAVE SOME MERIT. THE HIGH AMPLITUDE OF THE FLOW ALOFT WILL DIMINISH THE LIKELIHOOD OF PRECIP ASSOCIATED WITH A PRE-FRONTAL SFC TROUGH AS SEEN WITH RECENT FROPAS ON ACCOUNT OF THE HIGH COMPONENT OF MERIDIONAL FLOW. A SHARPLY COLDER AIRMASS WILL MOVE IN ON MONDAY...WHICH HAS MADE THAT AFTERNOONS FORECAST HIGH TEMPERATURE DIFFICULT SINCE THERE MAY VERY WELL BE FALLING TEMPERATURES THAT AFTERNOON. TUESDAY WILL ALSO BE RATHER COOL WITH SOME SELF- DESTRUCT SUNSHINE AND INSTABILITY SHOWERS POSSIBLE DUE TO VERY COLD AIR ALOFT. && .AVIATION /06Z WEDNESDAY THROUGH SUNDAY/... AS OF 06Z...CURRENT FORECAST IS BASICALLY ON TRACK. HAVE MOVED UP THE ONSET OF PRECIP AN HOUR OR SO TO ACCOMMODATE CURRENT TRENDS...AS WELL AS THE LATEST HRRR MODEL RUNS. FAIRLY POTENT PRE-FRONTAL TROF WILL PASS THROUGH ACROSS THE FA TOWARD DAYBREAK...WITH THE ACTUAL COLD FRONTAL PASSAGE SLATED FOR MIDDAY TODAY. PRE-FRONTAL TSRA/SHRA WILL RESULT IN A BRIEF IFR/LIFR CEILING/VSBY...WITH POSSIBLE WIND GUSTS UP TO 25 TO 40 KT FROM THE CONVECTION. WINDS TO VEER FROM S TO SW-W AFTER THE TROFS PASSAGE...AND INCREASE TO 15KT WITH GUSTS UP TO 25 KT. LOOK FOR CONVECTION TO EXIT THE COAST BY 14Z. THE COLD FRONTAL PASSAGE FROM WEST TO EAST...IS SLATED FOR MIDDAY TODAY. COULD SEE A STRAY SHRA ALONG THE ACTUAL FRONT WITH POSSIBLE IFR CEILINGS PRIOR TO ITS PASSAGE. FOR POST FRONTAL CONDITIONS...EXPECT A QUICK IMPROVEMENT TO VFR CEILINGS...WITH SKC COMMON BY SUNSET. GUSTY W TO NW WINDS WITH 10-20KT SUSTAINED...WITH GUSTS UP TO 25 TO 30 KT DURING THE AFTERNOON. WINDS TO DROP TO 10-15 KT AFTER SUNSET WITH GUSTS STILL UP TO 20 KT DURING THE EVENING. EXTENDED OUTLOOK...EXPECT VFR THROUGH PERIOD. && .MARINE... NEAR TERM /THROUGH TONIGHT/... AS OF 11 PM TUESDAY...COOL STABLE AIR OVER THE NEARSHORE WATERS IS NOT ALLOWING WIND SPEEDS TO INCREASE AS THE PRESSURE GRADIENT BECOMES TIGHTER OUT AHEAD OF THE COLD FRONT. WIND SPEEDS OUT AT THE FRYING PAN SHOALS BUOY HAVE INCREASED TO AROUND 20 KNOTS...WHILE NEARSHORE SPEEDS ARE BARELY 10 KNOTS. THE DIFFERENCE IS DUE TO AN 8-DEGREE AIR AND WATER TEMPERATURE DIFFERENCE AND WHAT THAT IS DOING TO THE STABILITY OF THE LOWEST FEW HUNDRED FEET OF THE ATMOSPHERE. BESIDES THESE EDITS TO WIND SPEED FORECASTS THROUGH DAYBREAK...NO OTHER SIGNIFICANT CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE TO THE FORECAST THIS EVENING. SHORT TERM /WEDNESDAY THROUGH THURSDAY NIGHT/... AS OF 3 PM TUESDAY...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY CONDITIONS WILL PERSIST THROUGH THU. SW WINDS WILL SHIFT TO NW IN THE WAKE OF A STRONG COLD FRONT WED AFTERNOON AND THESE WINDS WILL STRENGTHEN WED NIGHT AS THEY VEER TO N. N WINDS WILL GRADUALLY DIMINISH DURING THU...BECOMING NE THU NIGHT. SEAS SHOULD PEAK ON WED AND THEN STABILIZE OR SUBSIDE ON STRONG NW WINDS WED NIGHT AND THU... ESPECIALLY ACROSS THE NEAR SHORE WATERS DUE TO THE STRONG OFFSHORE FLOW. IN FACT...WE WILL BE NEARING LOW WATER ADVISORY CRITERIA AROUND THE TIME OF LOW TIDE LATE WED NIGHT. LONG TERM /FRIDAY THROUGH SUNDAY/... AS OF 3 PM TUESDAY...HIGH PRESSURE WILL BE SETTLED ACROSS THE SOUTHEASTERN U.S. ON FRIDAY. HOWEVER A MODERATELY STRONG PRESSURE GRADIENT WILL STILL BE FOUND ON THE EASTERN PERIPHERY OF THIS AIRMASS ESPECIALLY EARLY ON. THIS MAY GIVE RISE TO CAUTIONARY HEADLINES OUT NEAR FRYING PAN SHOALS TO START THE PERIOD BUT A DOWNWARD TREND WILL BE OBSERVED IN BOTH WINDS AND SEAS AS THE DAY WEARS ON AND THE HIGH PROGRESSES EAST. THE REMAINDER OF THE WEEKEND WILL SEE HIGH PRESSURE ACROSS THE COASTAL WATERS KEEPING WINDS LIGHT AND SEAS DIMINUTIVE. && .ILM WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... SC...NONE. NC...NONE. MARINE...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY FROM 4 AM WEDNESDAY TO 6 PM EST THURSDAY FOR AMZ250-252-254-256. && $$ NEAR TERM...TRA SHORT TERM...RJD LONG TERM...MBB AVIATION...DCH/HDL
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS CHARLESTON WV
948 PM EST THU NOV 24 2011 .SYNOPSIS... HIGH PRESSURE WITH DRY WEATHER CONTINUES SATURDAY. MORE RAIN SUNDAY WITH THE NEXT LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM. TURNING COLDER WITH RAIN AND SNOW SHOWERS EARLY NEXT WEEK. && .NEAR TERM /THROUGH FRIDAY/... UPDATE... HAVE MADE SOME SIGNIFICANT ADJUSTMENTS TO THE OVERNIGHT LOW TEMPERATURES WITH THIS UPDATE. COOL SPOTS/VALLEYS HAVE DROPPED QUICKLY...WHILE ELEVATED SITES IN THE WARMER BOUNDARY LAYER AIR STILL REMAIN IN THE 40S IN SOME LOCATIONS. THIS INCLUDES SNOWSHOE. LOCAL COOP MOS GUIDANCE IS BULLISH ON SOME OF THE LOWS GETTING DOWN INTO THE MID 20S TONIGHT FOR PLACES LIKE NORTHEAST KENTUCKY AND NORTHEAST OF PKB. SAME GUIDANCE ALSO SUGGESTS TEENS IN THE GREENBRIER VALLEY OF POCAHONTAS COUNTY. STILL ON BOARD WITH THE RUC AND THE LOW LEVEL STRATUS DECK REDEVELOPING NEAR THE OHIO RIVER VALLEY INTO SOUTHEAST OHIO. EXTENT OF THE OVERALL CLEARING CURRENTLY TAKING PLACE IS DECREASING CONFIDENCE AT THE TIME OF THIS ISSUANCE. PREVIOUS DISCUSSION... NO SMELL OF TURKEY HERE. EVEN UNDER THE HIGH PRESSURE...THERE ARE ISSUES. STRATUS UNDER THE TEMPERATURE INVERSION CONTINUES TO ERODE FROM THE SOUTH. BY 22Z SUNSET...FIGURING THE STRATUS ONLY LEFT IN OHIO. WILL TRY TO REFORM...OR ADVECT...SOME OF THAT STRATUS 06Z TO 12Z FRIDAY BACK IN SOUTHEAST OHIO AND MAYBE REACHING INTO NORTHWESTERN WEST VIRGINIA INCLUDING THE PKB VCNTY. WITH WARMER BOUNDARY LAYER TEMPERATURES...DO NOT THINK THE STRATUS WILL REFORM IN SOUTHERN WEST VIRGINIA. SO CAN NOT RULE OUT SOME LOCAL VALLEY FOG IN THE DEEPER VALLEYS THERE...UNDER THE CLEAR SKY 06Z TO 13Z. HAVE NOT REEVALUATED TEMPERATURES...BUT DO NOT FORESEE ANY MAJOR CHANGES THROUGH FRIDAY. && .SHORT TERM /FRIDAY NIGHT THROUGH SUNDAY/... HIGH PRESSURE RIDGE ALOFT...AND A SURFACE HIGH PRESSURE WILL PROVIDE CLEAR SKIES...AND DRY WEATHER CONDITIONS INTO THE DAY SATURDAY. THIS SCENARIO MEANS WARM AFTERNOON DUE TO HEATING...AND CHILLY NIGHTS DUE TO RADIATIONAL COOLING AND STRONG SUBSIDENCE. A LARGE DIURNAL RANGE IN TEMPERATURES WITH NEAR NORMAL LOWS BUT ABOVE NORMAL HIGHS INTO THE 60S IS EXPECTED. A COLD FRONT CROSS THE AREA EARLY SUNDAY. MODEL CONSENSUS SUGGEST TEMPERATURES AT H850 REACHING MINUS 3 BY 12Z SUNDAY. THEREFORE...EXPECT LIQUID PRECIPITATION WITH THE COLD FRONT ON SUNDAY...PERHAPS MIXING WITH SNOW LATE OVER THE NORTHEAST MOUNTAINS. PEOPLE COMING BACK FROM THANKSGIVING WEEKEND COULD ENCOUNTER WET ROADS ON SUNDAY. && .LONG TERM /SUNDAY NIGHT THROUGH THURSDAY/... LOW CONFIDENCE CONTINUES IN THE LONG TERM PERIOD AS MODELS CONTINUE TO DIFFER WITH THE HANDLING OF NEXT STORM SYSTEM...PROGGED TO MOVE INTO THE REGION ON SUNDAY. 12Z RUN OF THE GFS INDICATES BULK OF PRECIPITATION AND COLD FRONTAL BOUNDARY WILL BE ON THE WAY OUT OF THE CWA BY THE START OF THE PERIOD...WITH COLDER AIR FILTERING IN OVERNIGHT AS UPPER TROUGH CONTINUES TO PUSH EAST...WITH CAA PATTERN FOR MONDAY. GFS THEN INDICATES A CLOSED LOW FORMING OVER THE CAROLINAS...BEFORE TREKKING OFF TO THE EAST OVER THE ATLANTIC AS SHORTWAVE RIDGING BUILDS INTO THE REGION. ECMWF CONTINUES TO INDICATE A CLOSED LOW FORMING NEAR GULF STATES...BEFORE TREKKING NORTHEAST TOWARDS THE REGION. THIS SCENARIO WOULD CREATE A PROLONGED PERIOD OF WET WEATHER...AND WARMER TEMPERATURES THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR THE BULK OF PRECIPITATION TO BE IN THE FORM OF RAIN. FOLLOWED HPC THINKING...WHICH IS MORE PROGRESSIVE...AND FOLLOWS GFS MEAN SOLUN. VERY TRICKY FORECAST IN TERMS OF PRECIPITATION TYPE ON SUNDAY NIGHT/EARLY MONDAY. TEMPERATURES ARE EXPECTED TO BE COLD ENOUGH FOR MUCH OF THE PRECIPITATION TO CHANGE OVER TO ALL SNOW...OR A RAIN/SNOW MIX SUNDAY NIGHT...HOWEVER...DRIER AIR WILL ALSO BE WORKING ITS WAY INTO UPPER AND MID LEVELS. AS A RESULT...REALLY NO MOISTURE EXPECTED IN THE CRYSTAL GROWTH ZONE...AND IT IS POSSIBLE...SOME OF THE PRECIPITATION MAY BE IN THE FORM OF A FREEZING DRIZZLE...PARTICULARLY OVER THE LOWLAND COUNTIES. WITH THE WARM GROUND TEMPERATURES HOWEVER...THIS WILL LIKELY MITIGATE ANY MAJOR ISSUES TRAVEL WISE. FOR NOW...TO KEEP IN LINE WITH NEIGHBORS AND DUE TO THE FACT THAT THE EVENT IS SEVERAL DAYS AWAY...KEPT PRECIPITATION MAINLY AS SNOW OR A RAIN/SNOW MIX IN THE GRIDS. BEST PLACE FOR ANY SNOWFALL ACCUMULATIONS SUNDAY NIGHT/MONDAY WILL BE OVER THE NORTHERN MOUNTAIN ZONES...WHERE MODELS INDICATE AROUND 4 INCHES OR SO POSSIBLE. KEPT AMOUNTS GENERALLY LESS THAN THAT FOR NOW...BUT WILL CONTINUE TO MONITOR FOR FUTURE FORECASTS. PATTERN CONTINUES TO REMAIN PROGRESSIVE FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE EXTENDED PERIOD WITH LOW FORECAST CONFIDENCE. && .AVIATION /03Z FRIDAY THROUGH TUESDAY/... LOW STRATUS HAS DEPARTED PKB...BUT FEEL A RETURN IS POSSIBLE AFTER 06Z. USING THE RUC AND ITS LOW LEVEL MOISTURE PROGS WHICH HAS THE BEST HANDLE ON IT OVERALL. WILL HOVER AROUND THE 1KFT LEVEL...AND GO CONSERVATIVE AND USE MVFR IN THE PKB TAF. ELSEWHERE...IFR VISIBILITIES IN THE VALLEYS AWAY FROM THE LOW CLOUDS...MORE ADJACENT TO THE MOUNTAINS POSSIBLE...ESPECIALLY AT EKN. AGAIN...PREDOMINANT VISIBILITY WILL BE MVFR IN THESE AREAS AS GUIDANCE CONTINUES TO STRUGGLE WITH THE FOG POTENTIAL. VFR WITH CEILINGS AND VISIBILITIES UNLIMITED FRIDAY AS LOW LEVEL CLOUDS DISSOLVE. FORECAST CONFIDENCE AND ALTERNATE SCENARIOS THROUGH 00Z SATURDAY... FORECAST CONFIDENCE: MEDIUM. ALTERNATE SCENARIOS: THE EXTENT OF THE OVERNIGHT STRATUS AND HOW FAR EAST DEVELOPS INTO NORTHWESTERN WEST VIRGINIA MAY VARY. ALSO TIMING ANY VALLEY FOG FORMATION MAY VARY IN THE DEEP VALLEYS IN WEST VIRGINIA. EXPERIMENTAL TABLE OF FLIGHT CATEGORY OBJECTIVELY SHOWS CONSISTENCY OF WFO FORECAST TO AVAILABLE MODEL INFORMATION: H = HIGH: TAF CONSISTENT WITH ALL MODELS OR ALL BUT ONE MODEL. M = MEDIUM: TAF HAS VARYING LEVEL OF CONSISTENCY WITH MODELS. L = LOW: TAF INCONSISTENT WITH ALL MODELS OR ALL BUT ONE MODEL. DATE FRI 11/25/11 UTC 1HRLY 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 EST 1HRLY 21 22 23 00 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 CRW CONSISTENCY H H H H M M M M M M M M HTS CONSISTENCY H H H H H H M M H H H H BKW CONSISTENCY H H H H H H H H H H H H EKN CONSISTENCY H H H H H H L L L L L L PKB CONSISTENCY H L M M L L L L M M M M CKB CONSISTENCY M M L L M M H H H H H H AFTER 00Z SATURDAY... IFR POSSIBLE IN RAIN AND SNOW SUNDAY INTO MONDAY. && .RLX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... WV...NONE. OH...NONE. KY...NONE. VA...NONE. && $$ SYNOPSIS...KTB/ARJ/SL NEAR TERM...KTB/26 SHORT TERM...ARJ LONG TERM...SL AVIATION...26
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS CHARLESTON WV
632 PM EST THU NOV 24 2011 .SYNOPSIS... HIGH PRESSURE WITH DRY WEATHER CONTINUES SATURDAY. MORE RAIN SUNDAY WITH THE NEXT LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM. TURNING COLDER WITH RAIN AND SNOW SHOWERS EARLY NEXT WEEK. && .NEAR TERM /THROUGH FRIDAY/... UPDATE... LOW LEVEL STRATUS CONTINUES TO BE A PROBLEM...AND COULD ADVECT TOWARDS THE OHIO RIVER AGAIN TONIGHT. CURRENTLY...IT IS RETREATING INTO CENTRAL OHIO...AND ALLOWED PKB TO COME INTO A CLEAR SKY. RUC IS THE MODEL OF CHOICE REGARDING THIS...AS IT WAS LAST NIGHT...AND HAVE TAKEN STOCK IN IT FOR THIS UPDATE. STILL...THE EASTWARD EXTEND OF THE LOW STRATUS WILL BE PROBLEMATIC. DO NOT SEE IT REACHING HTS-CRW-CKB LINE...BUT FEEL PKB COULD BE BACK INTO IT IN A FEW HOURS. OTHERWISE...NO MAJOR CHANGES. TEMPERATURES LOOK GOOD...AND NO PRECIPITATION EXPECTED. PREVIOUS DISCUSSION... NO SMELL OF TURKEY HERE. EVEN UNDER THE HIGH PRESSURE...THERE ARE ISSUES. STRATUS UNDER THE TEMPERATURE INVERSION CONTINUES TO ERODE FROM THE SOUTH. BY 22Z SUNSET...FIGURING THE STRATUS ONLY LEFT IN OHIO. WILL TRY TO REFORM...OR ADVECT...SOME OF THAT STRATUS 06Z TO 12Z FRIDAY BACK IN SOUTHEAST OHIO AND MAYBE REACHING INTO NORTHWESTERN WEST VIRGINIA INCLUDING THE PKB VCNTY. WITH WARMER BOUNDARY LAYER TEMPERATURES...DO NOT THINK THE STRATUS WILL REFORM IN SOUTHERN WEST VIRGINIA. SO CAN NOT RULE OUT SOME LOCAL VALLEY FOG IN THE DEEPER VALLEYS THERE...UNDER THE CLEAR SKY 06Z TO 13Z. HAVE NOT REEVALUATED TEMPERATURES...BUT DO NOT FORESEE ANY MAJOR CHANGES THROUGH FRIDAY. && .SHORT TERM /FRIDAY NIGHT THROUGH SUNDAY/... HIGH PRESSURE RIDGE ALOFT...AND A SURFACE HIGH PRESSURE WILL PROVIDE CLEAR SKIES...AND DRY WEATHER CONDITIONS INTO THE DAY SATURDAY. THIS SCENARIO MEANS WARM AFTERNOON DUE TO HEATING...AND CHILLY NIGHTS DUE TO RADIATIONAL COOLING AND STRONG SUBSIDENCE. A LARGE DIURNAL RANGE IN TEMPERATURES WITH NEAR NORMAL LOWS BUT ABOVE NORMAL HIGHS INTO THE 60S IS EXPECTED. A COLD FRONT CROSS THE AREA EARLY SUNDAY. MODEL CONSENSUS SUGGEST TEMPERATURES AT H850 REACHING MINUS 3 BY 12Z SUNDAY. THEREFORE...EXPECT LIQUID PRECIPITATION WITH THE COLD FRONT ON SUNDAY...PERHAPS MIXING WITH SNOW LATE OVER THE NORTHEAST MOUNTAINS. PEOPLE COMING BACK FROM THANKSGIVING WEEKEND COULD ENCOUNTER WET ROADS ON SUNDAY. && .LONG TERM /SUNDAY NIGHT THROUGH THURSDAY/... LOW CONFIDENCE CONTINUES IN THE LONG TERM PERIOD AS MODELS CONTINUE TO DIFFER WITH THE HANDLING OF NEXT STORM SYSTEM...PROGGED TO MOVE INTO THE REGION ON SUNDAY. 12Z RUN OF THE GFS INDICATES BULK OF PRECIPITATION AND COLD FRONTAL BOUNDARY WILL BE ON THE WAY OUT OF THE CWA BY THE START OF THE PERIOD...WITH COLDER AIR FILTERING IN OVERNIGHT AS UPPER TROUGH CONTINUES TO PUSH EAST...WITH CAA PATTERN FOR MONDAY. GFS THEN INDICATES A CLOSED LOW FORMING OVER THE CAROLINAS...BEFORE TREKKING OFF TO THE EAST OVER THE ATLANTIC AS SHORTWAVE RIDGING BUILDS INTO THE REGION. ECMWF CONTINUES TO INDICATE A CLOSED LOW FORMING NEAR GULF STATES...BEFORE TREKKING NORTHEAST TOWARDS THE REGION. THIS SCENARIO WOULD CREATE A PROLONGED PERIOD OF WET WEATHER...AND WARMER TEMPERATURES THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR THE BULK OF PRECIPITATION TO BE IN THE FORM OF RAIN. FOLLOWED HPC THINKING...WHICH IS MORE PROGRESSIVE...AND FOLLOWS GFS MEAN SOLUN. VERY TRICKY FORECAST IN TERMS OF PRECIPITATION TYPE ON SUNDAY NIGHT/EARLY MONDAY. TEMPERATURES ARE EXPECTED TO BE COLD ENOUGH FOR MUCH OF THE PRECIPITATION TO CHANGE OVER TO ALL SNOW...OR A RAIN/SNOW MIX SUNDAY NIGHT...HOWEVER...DRIER AIR WILL ALSO BE WORKING ITS WAY INTO UPPER AND MID LEVELS. AS A RESULT...REALLY NO MOISTURE EXPECTED IN THE CRYSTAL GROWTH ZONE...AND IT IS POSSIBLE...SOME OF THE PRECIPITATION MAY BE IN THE FORM OF A FREEZING DRIZZLE...PARTICULARLY OVER THE LOWLAND COUNTIES. WITH THE WARM GROUND TEMPERATURES HOWEVER...THIS WILL LIKELY MITIGATE ANY MAJOR ISSUES TRAVEL WISE. FOR NOW...TO KEEP IN LINE WITH NEIGHBORS AND DUE TO THE FACT THAT THE EVENT IS SEVERAL DAYS AWAY...KEPT PRECIPITATION MAINLY AS SNOW OR A RAIN/SNOW MIX IN THE GRIDS. BEST PLACE FOR ANY SNOWFALL ACCUMULATIONS SUNDAY NIGHT/MONDAY WILL BE OVER THE NORTHERN MOUNTAIN ZONES...WHERE MODELS INDICATE AROUND 4 INCHES OR SO POSSIBLE. KEPT AMOUNTS GENERALLY LESS THAN THAT FOR NOW...BUT WILL CONTINUE TO MONITOR FOR FUTURE FORECASTS. PATTERN CONTINUES TO REMAIN PROGRESSIVE FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE EXTENDED PERIOD WITH LOW FORECAST CONFIDENCE. && .AVIATION /23Z THURSDAY THROUGH TUESDAY/... LOW STRATUS HAS DEPARTED PKB...BUT FEEL A RETURN IS POSSIBLE AFTER 06Z. USING THE RUC AND ITS LOW LEVEL MOISTURE PROGS WHICH HAS THE BEST HANDLE ON IT OVERALL. WILL HOVER AROUND THE 1KFT LEVEL...AND GO CONSERVATIVE AND USE MVFR IN THE PKB TAF. ELSEWHERE...IFR VISIBILITIES IN THE VALLEYS AWAY FROM THE LOW CLOUDS...MORE ADJACENT TO THE MOUNTAINS POSSIBLE...ESPECIALLY AT EKN. AGAIN...PREDOMINANT VISIBILITY WILL BE MVFR IN THESE AREAS AS GUIDANCE CONTINUES TO STRUGGLE WITH THE FOG POTENTIAL. VFR WITH CEILINGS AND VISIBILITIES UNLIMITED FRIDAY AS LOW LEVEL CLOUDS DISSOLVE. FORECAST CONFIDENCE AND ALTERNATE SCENARIOS THROUGH 00Z SATURDAY... FORECAST CONFIDENCE: MEDIUM. ALTERNATE SCENARIOS: THE EXTENT OF THE OVERNIGHT STRATUS AND HOW FAR EAST DEVELOPS INTO NORTHWESTERN WEST VIRGINIA MAY VARY. ALSO TIMING ANY VALLEY FOG FORMATION MAY VARY IN THE DEEP VALLEYS IN WEST VIRGINIA. EXPERIMENTAL TABLE OF FLIGHT CATEGORY OBJECTIVELY SHOWS CONSISTENCY OF WFO FORECAST TO AVAILABLE MODEL INFORMATION: H = HIGH: TAF CONSISTENT WITH ALL MODELS OR ALL BUT ONE MODEL. M = MEDIUM: TAF HAS VARYING LEVEL OF CONSISTENCY WITH MODELS. L = LOW: TAF INCONSISTENT WITH ALL MODELS OR ALL BUT ONE MODEL. DATE FRI UTC 1HRLY 00 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 EST 1HRLY 19 20 21 22 23 00 01 02 03 04 05 06 CRW CONSISTENCY H H H H M M M H M M M M HTS CONSISTENCY H H H H H H M H H H H H BKW CONSISTENCY H H H H H H H H H H H H EKN CONSISTENCY H H H H H H H H L L L L PKB CONSISTENCY M M L L M M L M M M M M CKB CONSISTENCY M M L L L L M M H H H H AFTER 00Z SATURDAY... IFR POSSIBLE IN RAIN AND SNOW SUNDAY INTO MONDAY. && .RLX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... WV...NONE. OH...NONE. KY...NONE. VA...NONE. && $$ SYNOPSIS...KTB/ARJ/SL NEAR TERM...KTB/26 SHORT TERM...ARJ LONG TERM...SL AVIATION...26
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS NORMAN OK
816 PM CST THU NOV 24 2011 .UPDATE... STRATUS HAS SPREAD NORTH/NORTHWEST QUICKLY THIS EVENING AND HRRR SUGGESTS THAT THIS TREND WILL CONTINUE THROUGH THE NIGHT WITH BROKEN TO OVERCAST SKIES LIKELY ENVELOPING THE EASTERN TWO-THIRDS OR SO OF THE FORECAST AREA BY SUNRISE. HAVE MADE A MAJOR OVERHAUL TO THE SKY GRIDS. ALTHOUGH THERE MAY BE SOME LOCATIONS WITH RESTRICTED VISIBILITY... EXPECT WINDS TO REMAIN STRONG ENOUGH THAT DO NOT EXPECT VERY MUCH DENSE FOG... ALTHOUGH THE HRRR DISAGREES WITH THIS AND WILL CONTINUE TO WATCH TRENDS OVERNIGHT. HAVE ALSO MADE BIG CHANGES TO THE HOURLY TEMPERATURE GRIDS DUE TO THE QUICK DROP OF TEMPERATURES THIS EVENING AND USED THE RUC AS THE PRIMARY SOURCE FOR THE TEMPERATURES. THIS ALSO REQUIRED SOME ADJUSTMENT TO THE OVERNIGHT MINIMUM TEMPERATURE FORECAST ALTHOUGH IT APPEARS THAT THESE CHANGES ARE MINOR IN MOST LOCATIONS. && .PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 600 PM CST THU NOV 24 2011/ AVIATION... /00Z TAFS/ MAIN AVIATION ISSUE WILL OCCUR TONIGHT IN REGARDS TO THE EVOLUTION AND MOVEMENT OF THE STRATUS DECK CURRENTLY IN SE OK. BELIEVE IT WILL MOVE INTO PORTIONS OF CENTRAL AND SW OK... AND WESTERN N-TX LATER TONIGHT... AND GIVEN MOST RECENT SATELLITE TRENDS... IT MAY SPREAD FASTER THAN PREVIOUSLY EXPECTED. ALSO MENTIONED LIKELIHOOD OF LLWS LATER TONIGHT IN SEVERAL LOCATIONS AS THE LOW LEVEL JET STRENGTHENS. LOW CLOUDS EXPECTED TO SCATTER OUT THURSDAY MORNING. MEANWHILE... A FEW SHOWERS MAY BEGIN TO SPREAD INTO NW OK BY LATE IN THE DAY. PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 156 PM CST THU NOV 24 2011/ DISCUSSION... CLOUDS CONTINUE TO ERODE IN SE PORTIONS OF THE FA THIS AFTERNOON. HOWEVER... THEY ARE SLOW TO DO SO WHICH MEANS CLOUDS COULD LINGER INTO THE EVENING. OTHERWISE... QUIET NIGHT TONIGHT WITH ONLY SOME HIGH CLOUDS STREAMING INTO THE REGION AS UPPER TROUGH MOVING ACROSS THE SW U.S. APPROACHES THE AREA. SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS WILL BE POSSIBLE FRIDAY AS THE STORM SYSTEM APPROACHES WITH CHANCES EXPANDING EAST AND RAIN BECOMING MORE WIDESPREAD FRIDAY NIGHT. HEAVY RAIN IS NOT EXPECTED WITH THIS SYSTEM. THE UPPER SYSTEM WILL EXIT THE REGION SATURDAY WITH RAIN CHANCES ENDING FOR THE FA BY AROUND THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY SATURDAY. A COLD FRONT WILL ALSO MOVE ACROSS THE REGION FRIDAY NIGHT INTO SATURDAY. STRONG NORTH WINDS ARE EXPECTED BEHIND THE FRONT SATURDAY MAKING CONDITIONS FEEL MUCH COOLER THAN THEY ARE. TEMPERATURES WILL WARM SUNDAY INTO MONDAY BEFORE ANOTHER COLD FRONT MOVES ACROSS THE REGION LATE MONDAY INTO TUESDAY. THIS FRONTAL PASSAGE IS EXPECTED TO BE DRY BUT WILL BRING A COOLER AIRMASS TO THE REGION. MODELS SHOW ANOTHER UPPER SYSTEM AND COLD FRONT AFFECTING THE REGION TOWARDS THE END OF NEXT WEEK. && .PRELIMINARY POINT TEMPS/POPS... OKLAHOMA CITY OK 46 64 45 51 / 0 20 70 10 HOBART OK 50 64 40 50 / 0 30 50 10 WICHITA FALLS TX 51 65 46 55 / 0 20 70 10 GAGE OK 47 65 36 45 / 0 40 40 0 PONCA CITY OK 46 65 43 49 / 0 20 70 10 DURANT OK 47 65 51 56 / 0 10 70 40 && .OUN WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... OK...NONE. TX...NONE. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION...UPDATED
NWS MORRISTOWN TN
956 AM EST WED NOV 23 2011 .DISCUSSION... THE UPPER TROUGH AXIS IS SWINGING THROUGH THE AREA THIS MORNING. UPSTREAM SOUNDINGS INDICATE THAT DRIER AIR ALOFT WILL CONTINUE TO ADVECT IN THROUGH THE AFTERNOON BEHIND THE TROUGH. 12Z OHX SOUNDING SHOWS MOISTURE CONFINED BELOW 850 MB...AND MOISTURE DEPTH WILL ONLY DECREASE THROUGH THE DAY. AS A RESULT...WILL REMOVE THE SLIGHT CHANCE POP IN NORTHERN AREAS AND THE MOUNTAINS. CLOUDS WILL EVENTUALLY THIN OUT AS BOTH THE RUC AND NAM SHOW CLEARING LATE IN THE AFTERNOON...BUT EXPECT THIS TO OCCUR A BIT MORE SLOWLY THAN THE MODELS SUGGEST. THUS WILL LOWER TEMPERATURES SLIGHTLY IN ALL LOCATIONS. THE NEED FOR A WIND ADVISORY WAS CONSIDERED IN SW VA AND THE TN MOUNTAINS...HOWEVER THERE HAVE BEEN NO OBSERVATIONS IN THE AREA CLOSE TO ADVISORY CRITERIA...AND MODELS INDICATE DECREASING WINDS THROUGH THE DAY AS THE SURFACE LOW MOVES FARTHER OFF THE NEW ENGLAND COAST. NO WIND ADVISORY WILL BE NEEDED. && .MRX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... NC...NONE. TN...NONE. VA...NONE. && $$ DGS
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION...UPDATED
NWS FORT WORTH TX
1132 PM CST TUE NOV 22 2011 .AVIATION... CONCERNS...IFR TO MVFR FOG LATE TONIGHT. T-TD SPREADS ARE CLOSING AND WINDS ARE LIGHT...THUS FEEL MVFR FOG WILL FORM AFTER 08Z AND BURN OFF AROUND 15Z WEDNESDAY MORNING. THERE IS A POTENTIAL FOR 1/2-2SM AND VV001 OR OVC002 TO FORM AS WELL AND DECIDED TO USE TEMPO 11-14Z TO INDICATE THIS. CONFIDENCE FOR THIS EVENT IS MODERATE TO HIGH...BUT NOT 100 PERCENT. OTHERWISE...LIGHT NORTHWEST WINDS WILL VEER SOUTHEASTERLY WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON/EVENING AS THE SURFACE HIGH MOVES EAST OF THE TAF SITES. SPEEDS WILL REMAIN 6KT OR LESS. 75 && .UPDATE... SCATTERED TO BROKEN STRATUS THAT HAS LINGERED SINCE THIS AFTERNOON IS FINALLY SHOWING SIGNS OF ERODING NOW THAT A DRIER AIRMASS AND LOWER DEW POINTS OVER OKLAHOMA ARE FILTERING ACROSS THE RED RIVER VALLEY. PER LOOK AT THE RUC/NAM/NAMM/AND SREF FAMILIES ON BUFKIT AND AT THE CROSS-OVER TEMPERATURE METHOD...INDICATIONS ARE THAT CURRENT TRENDS AND LOW TEMPERATURES FALLING TO...OR JUST BELOW AFTERNOON DEW POINT TEMPERATURES WILL RESULT IN SOME FOG DEVELOPMENT OVERNIGHT AND EARLY WEDNESDAY MORNING. FOG FORMATION SHOULD BECOME MORE EXPANSIVE BY DAYBREAK AND THROUGH A BULK OF THE MORNING WEDNESDAY. A MAJORITY OF NORTH TEXAS SAW RAINFALL THE PAST 24 HOURS...WITH A FEW STRIPES OF HEAVIER RAINS BOTH ALONG AND JUST SOUTH OF THE RED RIVER VALLEY AND ACROSS AREAS SOUTHEAST OF THE DALLAS-FORT WORTH METROPLEX. THESE AREAS MAY SEE THE HIGHEST RISK OF FOG DEVELOPMENT OVERNIGHT DUE TO HIGHER SATURATION. FOR NOW...WE WILL MAINTAIN PATCHY FOG WORDING THROUGH 3 AM FOR ALL OF NORTH TEXAS...THEN GO TO MORE AREAS OF FOG WITH PATCHY DENSE FOG FROM THE PREDAWN HOURS THROUGH LATE MORNING WEDNESDAY...BEING THAT IT IS GETTING INTO THE CRUX OF THE COOL SEASON. THE FORECAST WILL BE A COMPROMISE BETWEEN THE MORE PESSIMISTIC RUC MODEL...AND THE MORE OPTIMISTIC NAM/NAMM/SREF MODELS WHICH ONLY HAVE FOG POTENTIAL THROUGH MID MORNING. IT IS POSSIBLE A DENSE FOG ADVISORY MAY BE ISSUED EARLY WEDNESDAY MORNING FOR PARTS OF NORTH TEXAS...BUT COVERAGE OF ANY DENSE FOG IS UNCERTAIN AT THIS TIME AND WILL NOT ISSUE ANY ADVISORIES ON THIS UPDATE. 05/ && .PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 317 PM CST TUE NOV 22 2011/ ISENTROPIC DOWNGLIDE IS SLOWLY WORKING TO ERODE LOW LEVEL CLOUD COVER AND THIS PROCESS SHOULD CONTINUE THROUGH THE EVENING HOURS. CLOUDS SHOULD BE GONE FROM THE CWA BY MIDNIGHT...AND WITH DECREASING WINDS...ABUNDANT SHALLOW MOISTURE FROM RECENT RAIN...AND VERY DRY AIR ALOFT...CONDITIONS LOOK FAVORABLE FOR PATCHY FOG. THE ONLY THING HOLDING BACK FOG DEVELOPMENT MAY BE THAT THE WINDS ARE JUST A BIT TOO STRONG...SO FOG IN VALLEYS IS PROBABLY MORE LIKELY. ASIDE FROM ANY MORNING FOG...EXPECT A VERY NICE WEDNESDAY WITH PLEASANT TEMPERATURES...LIGHT WINDS AND LOTS OF SUNSHINE. RADIATIONAL COOLING LOOKS IDEAL ON WEDNESDAY NIGHT AND TEMPS SHOULD MEET DEWPOINTS AGAIN. HOWEVER LOW LEVEL MOISTURE LOOKS A BIT TOO SHALLOW FOR FOG WEDNESDAY NIGHT. THANKSGIVING DAY WILL ALSO BE PLEASANT...BUT SOUTH WINDS WILL INCREASE TO 10 TO 15 MPH IN THE AFTERNOON AS THE NEXT UPPER LEVEL TROUGH APPROACHES FROM THE WEST. THESE INCREASING SOUTH WINDS WILL BRING GULF MOISTURE/CLOUDS RAPIDLY BACK INTO THE AREA ON FRIDAY. MODELS HAVE SLOWED DOWN THE PASSAGE OF THIS SYSTEM A BIT...BUT AM CONCERNED THEY ARE STILL TOO FAST. THE ENERGY AT THE BASE OF THIS TROUGH MAY CLOSE OFF AND TEMPORARILY STALL OFF THE BAJA COAST ON THURSDAY...AS THERE IS QUITE A BIT OF DISTANCE BETWEEN THIS SYSTEM AND WHAT WOULD BE THE KICKER TROUGH IN THE CENTRAL PACIFIC. WILL PUSH BACK THE TIMING OF THIS SYSTEM 6-12 HOURS...AND THIS SUGGESTS RAIN CHANCES WILL HOLD OFF UNTIL AFTER SUNSET FRIDAY BUT CONTINUE INTO SATURDAY MORNING. WITH THE SLOWER TIMING...WE SHOULD GET BETTER THETA-E AIR INTO THE REGION...ESPECIALLY IN THE EASTERN ZONES. LAPSE RATES ARE NOT VERY IMPRESSIVE...SO ANY SEVERE WEATHER THREAT SHOULD BE LIMITED BY WEAK INSTABILITY. COLD FRONT WILL BLAST THROUGH DURING THE DAY SATURDAY WITH VERY WINDY AND COOLER CONDITIONS IN ITS WAKE. AFOREMENTIONED UPPER TROUGH SHOULD DEEPEN AND LUMBER ACROSS THE EASTERN US EARLY NEXT WEEK. THIS WILL ENSURE A DRY NORTHERLY FLOW THROUGH MID WEEK. LOOKS LIKE A BRIEF WARMUP ON MONDAY AFTERNOON DUE TO WESTERLY WINDS...BUT ANOTHER FRONT SHOULD COOL US DOWN TO SLIGHTLY BELOW NORMAL TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY. TR.92 && .PRELIMINARY POINT TEMPS/POPS... DALLAS-FT. WORTH, TX 46 69 46 71 51 / 0 0 0 0 0 WACO, TX 46 71 41 71 49 / 0 0 0 0 0 PARIS, TX 44 69 43 69 47 / 0 0 0 0 0 DENTON, TX 42 69 41 71 50 / 0 0 0 0 0 MCKINNEY, TX 42 69 38 70 48 / 0 0 0 0 0 DALLAS, TX 47 69 46 71 51 / 0 0 0 0 0 TERRELL, TX 45 70 41 70 49 / 0 0 0 0 0 CORSICANA, TX 47 72 43 71 50 / 0 0 0 0 0 TEMPLE, TX 45 71 41 72 50 / 0 0 0 0 0 MINERAL WELLS, TX 41 71 40 71 47 / 0 0 0 0 0 && .FWD WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... NONE. && $$ 75/
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION...UPDATED
NWS FORT WORTH TX
1003 PM CST TUE NOV 22 2011 .UPDATE... SCATTERED TO BROKEN STRATUS THAT HAS LINGERED SINCE THIS AFTERNOON IS FINALLY SHOWING SIGNS OF ERODING NOW THAT A DRIER AIRMASS AND LOWER DEW POINTS OVER OKLAHOMA ARE FILTERING ACROSS THE RED RIVER VALLEY. PER LOOK AT THE RUC/NAM/NAMM/AND SREF FAMILIES ON BUFKIT AND AT THE CROSS-OVER TEMPERATURE METHOD...INDICATIONS ARE THAT CURRENT TRENDS AND LOW TEMPERATURES FALLING TO...OR JUST BELOW AFTERNOON DEW POINT TEMPERATURES WILL RESULT IN SOME FOG DEVELOPMENT OVERNIGHT AND EARLY WEDNESDAY MORNING. FOG FORMATION SHOULD BECOME MORE EXPANSIVE BY DAYBREAK AND THROUGH A BULK OF THE MORNING WEDNESDAY. A MAJORITY OF NORTH TEXAS SAW RAINFALL THE PAST 24 HOURS...WITH A FEW STRIPES OF HEAVIER RAINS BOTH ALONG AND JUST SOUTH OF THE RED RIVER VALLEY AND ACROSS AREAS SOUTHEAST OF THE DALLAS-FORT WORTH METROPLEX. THESE AREAS MAY SEE THE HIGHEST RISK OF FOG DEVELOPMENT OVERNIGHT DUE TO HIGHER SATURATION. FOR NOW...WE WILL MAINTAIN PATCHY FOG WORDING THROUGH 3 AM FOR ALL OF NORTH TEXAS...THEN GO TO MORE AREAS OF FOG WITH PATCHY DENSE FOG FROM THE PREDAWN HOURS THROUGH LATE MORNING WEDNESDAY...BEING THAT IT IS GETTING INTO THE CRUX OF THE COOL SEASON. THE FORECAST WILL BE A COMPROMISE BETWEEN THE MORE PESSIMISTIC RUC MODEL...AND THE MORE OPTIMISTIC NAM/NAMM/SREF MODELS WHICH ONLY HAVE FOG POTENTIAL THROUGH MID MORNING. IT IS POSSIBLE A DENSE FOG ADVISORY MAY BE ISSUED EARLY WEDNESDAY MORNING FOR PARTS OF NORTH TEXAS...BUT COVERAGE OF ANY DENSE FOG IS UNCERTAIN AT THIS TIME AND WILL NOT ISSUE ANY ADVISORIES ON THIS UPDATE. 05/ && .AVIATION... CONCERNS...DURATION OF MVFR CIGS THIS EVENING AND POTENTIAL FOR MVFR OR IFR FOG EARLY WEDNESDAY. A LAYER OF BKN-OVC020 OFF TO THE NORTHWEST SHOULD CONTINUE TO ADVECT SOUTHEASTWARD ACROSS THE METROPLEX TAF SITES THIS EVENING. SUBSIDENCE WILL START ERODING THIS LAYER AFTER SUNSET...BUT POTENTIAL EXISTS FOR IT TO LINGER THROUGH 03Z. AFTERWARD...EXPECT SKIES TO GO SKC REST OF THE TAF FORECAST. AS FOR MVFR OR IFR VIS AROUND DAYBREAK...CLEARING SKIES...LIGHT WINDS...RECENT RAINS AND A SMALL T/TD SPREAD MAKES FOR A GOOD SET-UP FOR FOG FORMING. THE BEST AREA FOR THIS TO HAPPEN WILL BE JUST WEST OF THE METROPLEX...CLOSER TO THE CENTER OF THE SURFACE HIGH. HAVE DECIDED TO ADD MVFR BR TO ALL TAF SITES AND CONTINUE TO EVALUATE THIS POTENTIAL WHEN THE 00Z RUC/NAM ARE COMPLETE. 75 && .PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 317 PM CST TUE NOV 22 2011/ ISENTROPIC DOWNGLIDE IS SLOWLY WORKING TO ERODE LOW LEVEL CLOUD COVER AND THIS PROCESS SHOULD CONTINUE THROUGH THE EVENING HOURS. CLOUDS SHOULD BE GONE FROM THE CWA BY MIDNIGHT...AND WITH DECREASING WINDS...ABUNDANT SHALLOW MOISTURE FROM RECENT RAIN...AND VERY DRY AIR ALOFT...CONDITIONS LOOK FAVORABLE FOR PATCHY FOG. THE ONLY THING HOLDING BACK FOG DEVELOPMENT MAY BE THAT THE WINDS ARE JUST A BIT TOO STRONG...SO FOG IN VALLEYS IS PROBABLY MORE LIKELY. ASIDE FROM ANY MORNING FOG...EXPECT A VERY NICE WEDNESDAY WITH PLEASANT TEMPERATURES...LIGHT WINDS AND LOTS OF SUNSHINE. RADIATIONAL COOLING LOOKS IDEAL ON WEDNESDAY NIGHT AND TEMPS SHOULD MEET DEWPOINTS AGAIN. HOWEVER LOW LEVEL MOISTURE LOOKS A BIT TOO SHALLOW FOR FOG WEDNESDAY NIGHT. THANKSGIVING DAY WILL ALSO BE PLEASANT...BUT SOUTH WINDS WILL INCREASE TO 10 TO 15 MPH IN THE AFTERNOON AS THE NEXT UPPER LEVEL TROUGH APPROACHES FROM THE WEST. THESE INCREASING SOUTH WINDS WILL BRING GULF MOISTURE/CLOUDS RAPIDLY BACK INTO THE AREA ON FRIDAY. MODELS HAVE SLOWED DOWN THE PASSAGE OF THIS SYSTEM A BIT...BUT AM CONCERNED THEY ARE STILL TOO FAST. THE ENERGY AT THE BASE OF THIS TROUGH MAY CLOSE OFF AND TEMPORARILY STALL OFF THE BAJA COAST ON THURSDAY...AS THERE IS QUITE A BIT OF DISTANCE BETWEEN THIS SYSTEM AND WHAT WOULD BE THE KICKER TROUGH IN THE CENTRAL PACIFIC. WILL PUSH BACK THE TIMING OF THIS SYSTEM 6-12 HOURS...AND THIS SUGGESTS RAIN CHANCES WILL HOLD OFF UNTIL AFTER SUNSET FRIDAY BUT CONTINUE INTO SATURDAY MORNING. WITH THE SLOWER TIMING...WE SHOULD GET BETTER THETA-E AIR INTO THE REGION...ESPECIALLY IN THE EASTERN ZONES. LAPSE RATES ARE NOT VERY IMPRESSIVE...SO ANY SEVERE WEATHER THREAT SHOULD BE LIMITED BY WEAK INSTABILITY. COLD FRONT WILL BLAST THROUGH DURING THE DAY SATURDAY WITH VERY WINDY AND COOLER CONDITIONS IN ITS WAKE. AFOREMENTIONED UPPER TROUGH SHOULD DEEPEN AND LUMBER ACROSS THE EASTERN US EARLY NEXT WEEK. THIS WILL ENSURE A DRY NORTHERLY FLOW THROUGH MID WEEK. LOOKS LIKE A BRIEF WARMUP ON MONDAY AFTERNOON DUE TO WESTERLY WINDS...BUT ANOTHER FRONT SHOULD COOL US DOWN TO SLIGHTLY BELOW NORMAL TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY. TR.92 && .PRELIMINARY POINT TEMPS/POPS... DALLAS-FT. WORTH, TX 46 69 46 71 51 / 0 0 0 0 0 WACO, TX 46 71 41 71 49 / 0 0 0 0 0 PARIS, TX 44 69 43 69 47 / 0 0 0 0 0 DENTON, TX 42 69 41 71 50 / 0 0 0 0 0 MCKINNEY, TX 42 69 38 70 48 / 0 0 0 0 0 DALLAS, TX 47 69 46 71 51 / 0 0 0 0 0 TERRELL, TX 45 70 41 70 49 / 0 0 0 0 0 CORSICANA, TX 47 72 43 71 50 / 0 0 0 0 0 TEMPLE, TX 45 71 41 72 50 / 0 0 0 0 0 MINERAL WELLS, TX 41 71 40 71 47 / 0 0 0 0 0 && .FWD WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... NONE. && $$ 75/05
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NWS BLACKSBURG VA
1222 PM EST WED NOV 23 2011 .SYNOPSIS... DRY HIGH PRESSURE QUICKLY BUILDS IN FROM THE WEST TONIGHT...RESULTING IN BY WARM AFTERNOONS AND CHILLY MORNINGS INTO THE HOLIDAY WEEKEND. && .NEAR TERM /THROUGH TONIGHT/... AS OF 950 AM EST WEDNESDAY... LATEST HRRR AND 4KN NAM GUIDANCE SHOWING 850 MB WINDS INCREASING TO THE 55-65 KNOT RANGE AT THE HIGHER ELEVATIONS BY 21Z/4PM WITH THE STRONGEST WINDS ALONG THE BLUE RIDGE SOUTH OF ROANOKE. EVEN THE 10 METER WIND GUSTS ARE FORECAST TO BE IN THE 50 TO 60 KNOT RANGE ALONG THIS CORRIDOR. WIND DIRECTION WILL BE 330-340 DEGREES BY THAT TIME WHICH IS ALSO FAVORABLE TO GET INCREASED WIND SPEEDS FROM CHANNELING AT FANCY GAP. WILL BE EXPANDING HIGH WIND WARNING TO INCLUDE ALL BLUE RIDGE COUNTIES AND THROUGH BATH COUNTY VIRGINIA. HAVE ALSO EXPANDED WIND ADVISORY FOR THE REST OF THE COUNTIES WEST OF THE BLUE RIDGE. SHOWERS AND CLOUDS HAVE CLEARED OUT OF THE EASTERN COUNTY WARNING AREA. HAVE UPDATED TO REMOVE CHANCE OF RAIN IN THE EAST. NO CHANGES TO TEMPERATURES NEEDED TO THIS TIME. SURFACE HIGH BUILDS IN FROM THE WEST TONIGHT WITH WINDS FINALLY DIMINISHING AFTER MIDNIGHT UNDER CLEARING SKIES. ALTHO COLD AIR QUITE LIMITED WITH THIS SYSTEM...WILL BE TRICKY AS TO THE DEGREE OF DECOUPLING LATE WITH THE RIDGE STILL JUST TO THE WEST BY MORNING. CERTAINLY LOOKS LIKE THE DEEPER VALLEYS COULD CHASE DOWN CLOSE TO FREEZING BUT EXPECT RIDGES AND EASTERN SPOTS TO STAY ABOVE MOS AS LIGHT MIXING PERSISTS SO BASICALLY KEPT THEM IN THE MID TO UPPER 30S. && .SHORT TERM /THURSDAY THROUGH FRIDAY/... AS OF 255 AM EST WEDNESDAY... NICE WEATHER RETURNS WITH ANOTHER GOOD WARMUP THRU FRIDAY AS HIGH PRESSURE BUILDS OVERHEAD FOR THANKSGIVING AND THEN SINKS TO THE SOUTH FRIDAY ALLOWING FOR ANOTHER ROUND OF WARM ADVECTION. MAY SEE SOME HIGH CLOUDS CUT THRU THE RIDGE BY FRIDAY BUT GIVEN THE STRENGTH OF THE S/W RIDGING EXPECTING MAINLY SUNNY SKIES AND RATHER LIGHT WINDS. DID LOWER HIGHS BACK JUST A LITTLE ON THU PER ONLY LIGHT MIXING UNDER THE RIDGE DESPITE WARMING ALOFT. OTRW KEPT IT QUITE WARM FRIDAY WITH TEMPS MOSTLY IN THE 60S. LOOKS LIKE QUITE A RANGE OF LOWS THU NIGHT AS WARMING/BREEZES ALOFT DEVELOP ON THE RIDGES WHILE THE VALLEYS FALL TO BELOW FREEZING GIVEN DRY AIR IN PLACE. && .LONG TERM /FRIDAY NIGHT THROUGH TUESDAY/... AS OF 230 PM EST TUESDAY... SURFACE HIGH PRESSURE WILL REMAIN ALONG THE EAST COAST FRIDAY NIGHT THEN SLOWLY DRIFT OUT TO SEA OVER THE WEEKEND. AN UPPER LEVEL RIDGE WILL ACCOMPANY THE SURFACE HIGH ALLOWING TEMPERATURES TO WARM TO AROUND 10F ABOVE NORMAL SATURDAY AND POSSIBLY SUNDAY. TEMPERATURES DROP BELOW NORMAL MONDAY AND TUESDAY WITH HIGHS MAINLY IN THE 40S. MODELS HAVE BEEN PERSISTENT WITH DEVELOPING A CUTOFF SOUTHERN STREAM LOW EITHER SUNDAY OR MONDAY. THIS CUTOFF LOW WILL TAP BOTH GULF AND ATLANTIC MOISTURE. WAVES AHEAD OF THIS LOW WILL TRACK NORTHWARD AND PARALLEL IF NOT DIRECTLY OVER THE SOUTHERN APPALACHIANS. THIS WILL BRING PERIODS OF RAIN...HEAVY AT TIMES...TO THE AREA LATE THIS WEEKEND AND/OR EARLY NEXT WEEK. IF THIS UPPER LOW IS IN THE VICINITY OF THE AREA MONDAY INTO TUESDAY...A MIXTURE OF RAIN/SNOW/SLEET IS POSSIBLE ALONG AND WEST OF THE BLUE RIDGE. && .AVIATION /17Z WEDNESDAY THROUGH SUNDAY/... AS OF 1220 PM EST WEDNESDAY... MVFR CEILINGS REMAINED OVER THE MOUNTAINS WEST OF THE BLUE RIDGE THIS AFTERNOON. A FEW POCKETS OF IFR CEILINGS AS ISOLATED SHOWERS WERE ALSO OBSERVED. MODELS GRADUALLY ERODE LOW LEVEL MOISTURE DURING THE NEXT 12 TO 24 HOURS. EXPECT VFR CONDITIONS EVEN AT BLF AND LWB BY 00Z TONIGHT. STRONG GUSTY NORTHWEST TO NORTH WINDS WILL CONTINUE THROUGH THE EVENING. WIND GUSTS AT HIGHER ELEVATIONS MAY BE AS HIGH AS 50 KNOTS. AS HIGH PRESSURE BUILDS INTO THE REGION TONIGHT AND THURSDAY WINDS WILL DIMINISH. HIGH PRESSURE AND DRY CONDITIONS WILL COVER THE REGION THROUGH SATURDAY WITH NEXT THREAT OF SUB VFR CONDITIONS A POSSIBILITY ON SUNDAY. && .RNK WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... VA...WIND ADVISORY UNTIL MIDNIGHT EST TONIGHT FOR VAZ007-009>014- 018. HIGH WIND WARNING UNTIL MIDNIGHT EST TONIGHT FOR VAZ015>017- 019-020-022>024-032>035. NC...HIGH WIND WARNING UNTIL MIDNIGHT EST TONIGHT FOR NCZ001>003- 018-019. WV...WIND ADVISORY UNTIL MIDNIGHT EST TONIGHT FOR WVZ042>045. && $$ SYNOPSIS...AMS NEAR TERM...AMS/JH SHORT TERM...JH LONG TERM...RCS AVIATION...AMS/JH
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS BLACKSBURG VA
1002 AM EST WED NOV 23 2011 .SYNOPSIS... DRY HIGH PRESSURE QUICKLY BUILDS IN FROM THE WEST TONIGHT...RESULTING IN BY WARM AFTERNOONS AND CHILLY MORNINGS INTO THE HOLIDAY WEEKEND. && .NEAR TERM /THROUGH TONIGHT/... AS OF 950 AM EST WEDNESDAY... LATEST HRRR AND 4KN NAM GUIDANCE SHOWING 850 MB WINDS INCREASING TO THE 55-65 KNOT RANGE AT THE HIGHER ELEVATIONS BY 21Z/4PM WITH THE STRONGEST WINDS ALONG THE BLUE RIDGE SOUTH OF ROANOKE. EVEN THE 10 METER WIND GUSTS ARE FORECAST TO BE IN THE 50 TO 60 KNOT RANGE ALONG THIS CORRIDOR. WIND DIRECTION WILL BE 330-340 DEGREES BY THAT TIME WHICH IS ALSO FAVORABLE TO GET INCREASED WIND SPEEDS FROM CHANNELING AT FANCY GAP. WILL BE EXPANDING HIGH WIND WARNING TO INCLUDE ALL BLUE RIDGE COUNTIES AND THROUGH BATH COUNTY VIRGINIA. HAVE ALSO EXPANDED WIND ADVISORY FOR THE REST OF THE COUNTIES WEST OF THE BLUE RIDGE. SHOWERS AND CLOUDS HAVE CLEARED OUT OF THE EASTERN COUNTY WARNING AREA. HAVE UPDATED TO REMOVE CHANCE OF RAIN IN THE EAST. NO CHANGES TO TEMPERATURES NEEDED TO THIS TIME. SURFACE HIGH BUILDS IN FROM THE WEST TONIGHT WITH WINDS FINALLY DIMINISHING AFTER MIDNIGHT UNDER CLEARING SKIES. ALTHO COLD AIR QUITE LIMITED WITH THIS SYSTEM...WILL BE TRICKY AS TO THE DEGREE OF DECOUPLING LATE WITH THE RIDGE STILL JUST TO THE WEST BY MORNING. CERTAINLY LOOKS LIKE THE DEEPER VALLEYS COULD CHASE DOWN CLOSE TO FREEZING BUT EXPECT RIDGES AND EASTERN SPOTS TO STAY ABOVE MOS AS LIGHT MIXING PERSISTS SO BASICALLY KEPT THEM IN THE MID TO UPPER 30S. && .SHORT TERM /THURSDAY THROUGH FRIDAY/... AS OF 255 AM EST WEDNESDAY... NICE WEATHER RETURNS WITH ANOTHER GOOD WARMUP THRU FRIDAY AS HIGH PRESSURE BUILDS OVERHEAD FOR THANKSGIVING AND THEN SINKS TO THE SOUTH FRIDAY ALLOWING FOR ANOTHER ROUND OF WARM ADVECTION. MAY SEE SOME HIGH CLOUDS CUT THRU THE RIDGE BY FRIDAY BUT GIVEN THE STRENGTH OF THE S/W RIDGING EXPECTING MAINLY SUNNY SKIES AND RATHER LIGHT WINDS. DID LOWER HIGHS BACK JUST A LITTLE ON THU PER ONLY LIGHT MIXING UNDER THE RIDGE DESPITE WARMING ALOFT. OTRW KEPT IT QUITE WARM FRIDAY WITH TEMPS MOSTLY IN THE 60S. LOOKS LIKE QUITE A RANGE OF LOWS THU NIGHT AS WARMING/BREEZES ALOFT DEVELOP ON THE RIDGES WHILE THE VALLEYS FALL TO BELOW FREEZING GIVEN DRY AIR IN PLACE. && .LONG TERM /FRIDAY NIGHT THROUGH TUESDAY/... AS OF 230 PM EST TUESDAY... SURFACE HIGH PRESSURE WILL REMAIN ALONG THE EAST COAST FRIDAY NIGHT THEN SLOWLY DRIFT OUT TO SEA OVER THE WEEKEND. AN UPPER LEVEL RIDGE WILL ACCOMPANY THE SURFACE HIGH ALLOWING TEMPERATURES TO WARM TO AROUND 10F ABOVE NORMAL SATURDAY AND POSSIBLY SUNDAY. TEMPERATURES DROP BELOW NORMAL MONDAY AND TUESDAY WITH HIGHS MAINLY IN THE 40S. MODELS HAVE BEEN PERSISTENT WITH DEVELOPING A CUTOFF SOUTHERN STREAM LOW EITHER SUNDAY OR MONDAY. THIS CUTOFF LOW WILL TAP BOTH GULF AND ATLANTIC MOISTURE. WAVES AHEAD OF THIS LOW WILL TRACK NORTHWARD AND PARALLEL IF NOT DIRECTLY OVER THE SOUTHERN APPALACHIANS. THIS WILL BRING PERIODS OF RAIN...HEAVY AT TIMES...TO THE AREA LATE THIS WEEKEND AND/OR EARLY NEXT WEEK. IF THIS UPPER LOW IS IN THE VICINITY OF THE AREA MONDAY INTO TUESDAY...A MIXTURE OF RAIN/SNOW/SLEET IS POSSIBLE ALONG AND WEST OF THE BLUE RIDGE. && .AVIATION /15Z WEDNESDAY THROUGH SUNDAY/... AS OF 600 AM EST WEDNESDAY... ANOTHER BROKEN BAND OF SHOWERS MOVING ACROSS THE MOUNTAINS ATTM JUST AHEAD OF THE ACTUAL COLD FRONT NOW CROSSING THE WESTERN SLOPES. EXPECT MOST OF THESE SHOWERS TO DRY UP CROSSING THE BLUE RIDGE GIVEN WESTERLY FLOW BUT STILL ENOUGH TO CAUSE SOME BRIEF REDUCTIONS TO MVFR VSBYS AND IFR CIGS FROM KBCB WEST EARLY ON. MAY INCLUDE A VCSH AT BOTH KROA AND KLYH AS WELL FOR SOME OF THIS TO SPILLOVER OTRW LEAVING OUT ADDED SHRA MENTION OUT EAST THRU THE PERIOD. CIGS WILL BE GOING DOWN TO IFR OR LOWER BEHIND THE FRONT WITH STRONG UPSLOPE LATER THIS MORNING AT KBLF...WHILE KBCB/KLWB STAY MVFR. SOME ADDITIONAL -RA OR DRIZZLE ALSO POSSIBLE...MAINLY AT KBLF THRU EARLY AFTERNOON OTRW EXPECT DECREASING SHRA AS THE FRONT PUSHES TO THE EAST. THE AVIATION CONDITIONS BY AFTERNOON WILL NOT BE IDEAL AS WE ARE LOOKING AT A STRONG LOW LVL JET COMING IN WITH STRONG PRESSURE RISES. THIS WILL LEAD TO GUSTS UP TO 30 TO 40 KNOTS BY MIDDAY INTO THE AFTN...ESPECIALLY AT KBCB/KROA. DOWNSLOPE DRYING WILL BRING VFR CONDITIONS TO THE TAF SITES EXCEPT KBLF/KLWB BY EARLY AFTN...WITH VFR RETURNING TO THE BLF/KLWB CORRIDOR IN THE EVENING WHEN WINDS START TO SUBSIDE SOME. HIGH PRESSURE AND DRY CONDITIONS WILL COVER THE REGION THROUGH SATURDAY WITH NEXT THREAT OF SUB VFR CONDITIONS A POSSIBILITY SUNDAY. && .RNK WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... VA...WIND ADVISORY UNTIL MIDNIGHT EST TONIGHT FOR VAZ007-009>014- 018. HIGH WIND WARNING UNTIL MIDNIGHT EST TONIGHT FOR VAZ015>017- 019-020-022>024-032>035. NC...HIGH WIND WARNING UNTIL MIDNIGHT EST TONIGHT FOR NCZ001>003- 018-019. WV...WIND ADVISORY UNTIL MIDNIGHT EST TONIGHT FOR WVZ042>045. && $$ SYNOPSIS...AMS NEAR TERM...AMS/JH SHORT TERM...JH LONG TERM...RCS AVIATION...AMS/JH/WP
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS LA CROSSE WI
537 PM CST THU NOV 24 2011 .SHORT TERM...TONIGHT THROUGH SUNDAY NIGHT 236 PM CST THU NOV 24 2011 MAIN FORECAST CONCERNS THIS PACKAGE...RAIN CHANCES FRI NIGHT/SAT... WINDS SAT...RAIN/SNOW CHANCES SAT NIGHT...TEMPERATURES THRU THE PERIOD. DATA ANALYSIS AT 18Z HAD TIGHTER PRESSURE GRADIENT BETWEEN HIGH PRESSURE OVER THE SOUTHEAST CONUS AND LOW PRESSURE EAST OF LK WINNIPEG OVER THE AREA. BRISK SOUTH WINDS ACROSS MUCH OF MN/IA/WI AT MID-DAY. THESE WINDS...COMBINED WITH DIURNAL WARMING AND SOUTHWEST- WEST FLOW IN THE 925-700MB LAYERS HELPING TO ERODE/ADVECT THE LOW STRATUS CLOUDS EAST AND OUT OF THE FCST AREA. TEMPS RESPONDING TO THE WARM ADVECTION/MOSTLY SUNNY SKIES WITH NOONTIME READINGS IN THE MID 40S TO MID 60S FROM NORTHEAST WI TO SOUTHWEST IA...SOME 10-20F ABOVE NORMAL AND NEAR RECORD HIGHS AT SOME LOCATIONS ON THIS THANKSGIVING DAY. 24.12Z MODELS LOOK TO HAVE INITIALIZED WELL AND OFFER RATHER SIMILAR SOLUTIONS FOR TONIGHT INTO SAT. MODELS GRADUALLY CONVERGING ON A COMMON/TIGHTER CONSENSUS SOLUTION WITH THE TROUGH/LOW TO MOVE ACROSS THE REGION FRI NIGHT THRU SAT NIGHT. DPROG/DT OF 500MB HGTS AT 24.12Z SHOWED MODEL RUNS OF 22.12Z AND 23.12Z VERIFIED QUITE WELL ACROSS NOAM/EASTERN PAC WITH BETTER RUN-TO-RUN CONSISTENCY BY ECMWF. TREND IS TOWARD A COMPROMISE OF THE EARLIER RUNS. MODELS CONTINUE TO CONVERGE TOWARD A COMMON SOLUTION TONIGHT THRU SAT AS THE TROUGH/ ENERGY MOVES FROM NEAR THE WEST COAST TO THE WESTERN PLAINS BY 00Z SAT THEN TO THE MID/UPPER MS VALLEY BY 00Z SUN. TREND GENERALLY FAVORS THE SLOWER OF THE EARLIER RUNS WITH A COMPROMISE ON THE STRENGTH OF THE TROUGH. DIFFERENCES REMAIN BETWEEN THE MODELS FOR SAT NIGHT INTO SUN NIGHT WITH A MORE CONSOLIDATED LOW/TROUGH OVER THE CENTRAL GREAT LAKES /GFS/NAM/ VS. A MORE NORTHERN/SOUTHERN STREAM...OPEN TROUGH SPLIT OF THE ENERGY /ECMWF/GEM/UKMET/. GFS ENSEMBLE MEAN SPLITS THE DIFFERENCE OF THE 2 GROUPS SAT NIGHT/SUN. ECMWF LOOKS TO HAVE SLIGHTLY BETTER RUN-TO-RUN CONSISTENCY IN THE LATER PART OF THE SHORT-TERM PERIOD. CHECK OF OBS VS. MODEL DATA AT 18Z SHOWED MODELS ALL REASONABLE WITH THE SFC MASS FIELDS OVER THE CENTRAL CONUS. PER WV IMAGERY...ALL APPEARED REASONABLE WITH THE SHORTWAVE DETAILS OVER NOAM/EASTERN PAC. THUS AGAIN NO CLEAR DETERMINISTIC MODEL FAVORITE. WITH THE TRENDS TOWARD A COMPROMISE SOLUTION...AT LEAST THRU 60HRS...FAVORED THE MODEL/ENSEMBLE COMPROMISE SOLUTION. GIVEN THE CONTINUED DETAIL DIFFERENCES...SHORT- TERM FCST CONFIDENCE AVERAGE AT BEST THIS CYCLE. IN THE SHORT TERM...FIRST CONCERN IS RETURN OF MOISTURE IN 950-900MB LAYER TONIGHT AND IF IT WILL MANIFEST AS ANOTHER LOW STRATUS DECK OR NOT. SEE AVIATION DISCUSSION BELOW FOR MORE DETAILS ON POTENTIAL LOW CLOUDS/BR TONIGHT AS THE LOWER LEVEL MOISTURE RETURNS. DID SHOW INCREASING CLOUDS IN THE GRIDS LATER TONIGHT AS MOISTURE/BROAD LIFT ABOVE 500MB AHEAD OF THE TROUGH ADVANCING THRU THE ROCKIES INCREASE OVER THE AREA. BRISK WINDS TONIGHT AND THESE CLOUDS TO MAKE FOR A SEASONABLY MILD NIGHT ACROSS THE AREA TONIGHT...WITH LOWS ABOVE THE NORMAL HIGHS FOR THE DATE. MOISTURE/LIFT CONTINUE TO INCREASE OVER THE AREA FRI WITH THICKENING CLOUDS. QUESTION REMAINS WILL A SMALL -RA CHANCE BE NEEDED ACROSS THE SOUTH END OF THE FCST AREA LATE IN THE AFTERNOON. MODELS MAINTAIN A DRY LAYER BETWEEN 850-650MB OVER THE SOUTH END OF THE FCST AREA FRI AFTERNOON...WITH MODEST LIFT AT BEST AT OR ABOVE 500MB. WILL MAINTAIN THE DRY FRI AFTERNOON FCST FOR NOW. MOISTURE/850-500MB THERMO-DYNAMIC FORCING/LIFT INCREASE QUICKLY FRI EVENING...MAXIMIZING OVER THE FCST AREA LATE FRI NIGHT INTO EARLY SAT MORNING. THIS WITH INCREASING 500-300MB PV ADVECTION AND 300MB AGEOSTROPHIC FLOW/DIVERGENCE IN RIGHT ENTRANCE REGION OF A 110KT JET AHEAD OF THE TROUGH AXIS. PW VALUES INCREASE INTO THE 0.75 TO 1 INCH RANGE OVER THE SOUTHEAST 3/4 OF THE FCST AREA AS WELL BY 12Z SAT. THUS RAISED RAIN CHANCE THRU FRI NIGHT...INTO THE 60-85 PERCENT RANGE AFTER MIDNIGHT. RAISED RAIN CHANCES SAT MORNING INTO THE 60-80 PERCENT RANGE OVER THE EAST HALF OF THE FCST AREA. LEFT RAIN CHANCES IN THE 30-50 PERCENT RANGE OVER THE WEST THIRD OF THE FCST AREA SAT MORNING AS BETTER CONSENSUS FOR THE COLD FRONT AND 925-850MB TROUGH AXIS TO BE MOVING EAST OF THE MS RIVER DURING THE MORNING. DRIER AIR AND COLD ADVECTION/SUBSIDENCE TO BE SPREADING INTO THE AREA BEHIND THE SFC-850MB FRONT. QUESTION FOR SAT AFTERNOON BECOMES HOW QUICKLY WILL THE COLUMN COOL ENOUGH FOR ANY PRECIP TO MIX WITH/CHANGE TO SNOW. NAM MOST ROBUST BRINGING IN THE COLD AIR. TEMPS DO FALL DURING THE DAY SAT IN THE STRONG POST FRONTAL COLD ADVECTION BUT MODEL CONSENSUS KEEPS THE BOUNDARY LAYER TEMPS DURING THE AFTERNOON IN THE UPPER 30S/AROUND 40. THIS A BIT WARM FOR A COMPLETE CHANGE TO -SN OR ACCUMULATIONS...GIVEN BULK OF FORCING/LIFT IS NORTH/EAST OF THE AREA AND PRECIP RATES EXPECTED TO BE ON THE LIGHT SIDE BY SAT AFTERNOON. CONTINUED A -RA/-SN MIX FOR MUCH OF THE AREA SAT AFTERNOON. STRONGEST OF SFC-850MB COLD ADVECTION MOVES ACROSS THE AREA SAT MORNING WHILE STRONGEST OF SFC- 925MB GRADIENT WINDS MOVE ACROSS THE AREA CENTERED ON SAT NIGHT. STRONG/GUSTY NORTHWEST WINDS TO SPREAD ACROSS THE AREA SAT/SAT NIGHT BUT AT THIS TIME LOOK TO REMAIN BELOW ADVISORY CRITERIA. DID INCREASE WINDS SAT NIGHT INTO SUN WITH GRADIENT REMAINING TIGHT AND CONTINUING LOW LEVEL COLD ADVECTION OVER THE AREA. BOUNDARY LAYER COOLS ENOUGH FOR ALL SNOW SAT EVENING. NAM/GFS SHOWING MORE WRAP AROUND/DEFORMATION BAND PRECIP ON THE BACK SIDE OF THE SYSTEM WITH A 500MB LOW OVER EASTERN WI/LK MI WHILE MORE OPEN/POSITIVE TILT WAVE SOLUTION OF ECMWF/GEM/UKMET MUCH WEAKER WITH FORCING/LIFT/PRECIP PRODUCTION BEHIND THE TROUGH AXIS SAT NIGHT/SUN MORNING. LEFT BULK OF -SN/-RA CHANCES SAT NIGHT IN THE 20-50 PERCENT RANGE FOR NOW... ONLY CARRYING LIKELY ALONG/NORTH OF HIGHWAY 29 ACROSS CENTRAL WI. DID LINGER A 20 PERCENT -SN CHANCE OVER THE EAST HALF OF THE FCST AREA SUN MORNING TO HONOR NAM/GFS SOLUTIONS. HIGH PRESSURE/SHORTWAVE RIDGING ALOFT BUILD IN FOR LATER SUN/SUN NIGHT. FAVORED A BLEND OF THE NUMERICAL TEMP GUIDANCE FOR MOST LOWS/HIGHS TONIGHT THRU SUN NIGHT. DID FAVOR WARMER OF GUIDANCE LOWS TONIGHT WITH BRISK SOUTH WINDS AND INCREASE OF HIGH CLOUDS AFTER MIDNIGHT. CONTINUED THE TREND OF HIGHS SAT AROUND 15Z THEN FALLING TEMPS BEHIND THE COLD FRONT THE REST OF THE DAY. WITH SFC RIDGE AXIS OVER THE AREA SUN NIGHT FAVORED COOLER OF GUIDANCE LOWS. .LONG TERM...MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY 236 PM CST THU NOV 24 2011 24.00Z MEDIUM RANGE MODELS SHOW QUITE A BIT OF VARIABILITY ALREADY MONDAY WITH THE PROGRESSIVENESS OF THE TROUGHING OVER THE EASTERN CONUS. RUN-TO-RUN CONSISTENCY LEAVES QUITE A BIT TO BE DESIRED TOO. MODELS BETTER/MORE CONSISTENT WITH THE NEXT TROUGH DROPPING INTO THE NORTHERN PLAINS BUT TREND IS A BIT FLATTER/FASTER WITH THIS FEATURE. MODELS REMAIN FASTER/FLATTER WITH THIS FEATURE TUE WITH A TREND TOWARD MORE ZONAL FLOW OVER THE NORTH-CENTRAL AND NORTHWEST CONUS. STILL PLENTY OF DIFFERENCES WITH EAST/SOUTHEAST CONUS LOW. GFS/ECMWF SOLUTIONS DIVERGE FOR WED WITH TIMING ISSUES OF A STRONGER SHORTWAVE THRU BROAD NORTHWEST FLOW OVER WESTERN NOAM. SOLUTIONS TREND MORE SIMILAR WITH A SHORTWAVE TROUGH MOVING ACROSS THE WESTERN GREAT LAKES THU. RUN-TO-RUN CONSISTENCY REMAINS BELOW AVERAGE WED/THU...TIED TO GLOBAL FLOW FORCING MECHANISMS AS DISCUSSED BY MID SHIFT FORECASTER. UNTIL THIS SETTLES DOWN...RUN-TO- RUN CONSISTENCY BEYOND ABOUT DAY 5 CAN BE EXPECTED TO REMAIN BELOW AVERAGE. LONG-TERM FCST CONFIDENCE AGAIN BELOW AVERAGE WITH ALL THE BETWEEN MODEL AND RUN-TO-RUN VARIABILITY...THUS WILL LEAVE DAY 4-7 GRIDS CLOSE TO A THE MODEL/ENSEMBLE CONSENSUS. WITH A DRIER WEST TO NORTHWEST FLOW ALOFT AND MAIN SHORTWAVE ENERGY LOOKING TO PASS NORTH OF THE AREA...DAYS 4-7 TRENDING TO BE A MOSTLY DRY PERIOD. REASONABLE MODEL CONSENSUS FOR A FRONT TO PUSH ACROSS THE AREA MON BUT MOISTURE LIMITED AND SFC FRONT PASSES WELL AHEAD OF THE MID LEVEL TROUGH. CONSENSUS FOR SFC HIGH PRESSURE TO BUILD OVER THE REGION FOR TUE. MAIN SHORTWAVE ENERGY WED OR THU /DEPENDS ON WHICH MODEL WOULD BE MORE CORRECT WITH TIMING/ PASSES NORTH OF THE AREA WITH ANOTHER FRONT TO PUSH ACROSS THE UPPER MIDWEST ONE OF THE DAYS. 24.12Z GFS/ECMWF PUSH A STRONGER TROUGH/FRONT TOWARD/ACROSS THE REGION THU...WITH A SMALL -RA/-SN CHANCE THAT DAY REASONABLE FOR NOW. TEMPERATURES FOR DAYS 4-7 LOOKING TO BE NEAR/A BIT ABOVE NORMAL AND THIS WELL TRENDED WITH THE MODEL CONSENSUS GRIDS. && .AVIATION...TONIGHT AND FRIDAY 537 PM CST THU NOV 24 2011 BIGGEST CONCERN REMAINS ON THE POTENTIAL FOR MORE STRATUS DEVELOPMENT TONIGHT AND LOW LEVEL WIND SHEAR. SATELLITE SHOWING JUST HIGH CLOUDS ACROSS THE AREA...BUT PRESSURE GRADIENT RATHER TIGHT. KARX VAD WIND PROFILE SHOWS 45 KNOT WINDS AT 2K FEET AND MODELS CONTINUE TO SHOW STRONG LOW LEVEL JET OF 45 TO 55 KNOTS THROUGH THE EVENING HOURS. DO EXPECT WINDS TO SETTLE DOWN IN THE VALLEY LOCATION AT KLSE TO AROUND 11 KNOTS AND THUS HAVE CONTINUED THE LOW LEVEL WIND SHEAR. AT KRST...QUESTION WILL BE IF SURFACE WINDS CONTINUE TO GUST THIS EVENING AND WITH THE TIGHT PRESSURE GRADIENT SO FEEL THERE WILL SOME GUSTS AND THUS DID NOT MENTION THE LLWS. BOTH THE 24.12Z NAM/GFS AND THE 24.21Z RUC DO SHOW A BAND OF 925 MB MOISTURE SURGING NORTHWARD OUT OF THE PLAINS LATE TONIGHT. QUESTION WILL BE IF IT MANIFESTS ITSELF IN THE FORM OF STRATUS. WITH THE STRONG LOW LEVEL JET...EXPECTATIONS ARE THIS MOISTURE WILL ONLY RESULT IN VISIBILITIES OF 4SM-6SM. HOWEVER...WILL HAVE TO MONITOR THROUGHOUT THE EVENING. FOR NOW KEPT THE SCT005-010 DECK AFTER 09Z. && .ARX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... 236 PM CST THU NOV 24 2011 WI...NONE. MN...NONE. IA...NONE. && $$ SHORT TERM...RRS LONG TERM....RRS AVIATION...RABERDING
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS LA CROSSE WI
250 PM CST WED NOV 23 2011 .SHORT TERM...TONIGHT THROUGH SATURDAY NIGHT 250 PM CST WED NOV 23 2011 MAIN FORECAST CONCERNS THIS PACKAGE...RAIN CHANCES CENTERED ON FRI NIGHT/SAT...WINDS SAT...TEMPERATURES THRU THE PERIOD. 18Z DATA ANALYSIS HAD LOW PRESSURE MOVING EAST ACROSS CENTRAL CANADA AND HIGH PRESSURE OVER MO TO EAST TX. VIS IMAGERY/SFC OBS SHOWED LOW STRATUS REMAINED TRAPPED UNDER AN INVERSION NEAR 925MB ACROSS MUCH OF WI/IA AND SOUTHEAST MN. LAPS SOUNDINGS AND PILOT REPORTS INDICATING THE MOISTURE/CLOUDS RATHER SHALLOW UNDER THE INVERSION. MOST MODELS...EXCEPT FOR GFS...DOING A DECENT JOB DEPICTING THE LOW LEVEL MOISTURE/CLOUDS THIS MORNING. INCREASING PRESSURE GRADIENT OVER THE AREA AND WESTERLY FLOW IN THE 925-700MB LAYER FINALLY STARTING TO ERODE/ADVECT THE LOW LEVEL MOISTURE/CLOUDS EAST AT MID-DAY...WITH CLEARING WORKING INTO THE WEST END OF THE FCST AREA. 23.12Z MODELS LOOK TO HAVE INITIALIZED WITHOUT SIGNIFICANT ERRORS AND OFFER RATHER SIMILAR SOLUTIONS FOR TONIGHT THRU FRI. SOLUTIONS DIVERGE WITH STRENGTH/TIMING OF THE TROUGH FRI NIGHT INTO SAT NIGHT. OVERALL TREND LOOKS TO DEVELOP A STRONGER SFC LOW NORTH OF THE AREA FRI NIGHT/SAT...AND SHUNTS THE DEEPER MOISTURE/PRECIP AHEAD OF IT A BIT FURTHER EAST. STRONGER LOW RESULTS IN A STRONGER GRADIENT/LOW LEVEL COLD ADVECTION BEHIND IT ON SAT. DPROG/DT OF 500MB HGTS AT 23.12Z SHOWED MODEL RUNS OF 21.12Z AND 22.12Z VERIFIED QUITE WELL ACROSS NOAM/EASTERN PAC...BUT ALL WERE A BIT WEAK WITH THE TROUGH OVER THE OH VALLEY. THRU THU MODEL TRENDS FAVOR THE MORE PROGRESSIVE OF EARLIER SOLUTIONS WITH A TROUGH EXITING OFF THE EAST COAST. TREND IS A BIT SLOWER/STRONGER WITH A FEATURE OVER THE CA BAJA AT 00Z FRI. FOR THU NIGHT/FRI MODELS TRENDING TOWARD A SOLUTION OF MORE NORTHERN-SOUTHERN STREAM SEPARATION AS THE SHORTWAVE ENERGY COMES EAST INTO MT TO WEST TX. TREND AT 00Z SAT IS ALSO A BIT SLOWER WITH THIS ENERGY. BY 00Z SUN MODELS IN TWO CAMPS WITH THE TROUGHING OVER THE MID/UPPER MS VALLEY...NAM/GFS FASTER...ECMWF/GEM SLOWER. ALL BUT GEM FASTER THAN THEIR EARLIER RUNS BY SAT NIGHT...AND LOOK TO KEEP THE NORTHERN/SOUTHERN STREAM PIECES OF ENERGY MORE SEPARATE UNTIL THE TOUGH AXIS PASSES EAST OF THE AREA. SOMEWHAT BETTER RUN-TO-RUN CONSISTENCY TONIGHT THRU SAT TO ECMWF. CHECK OF OBS VS. MODEL DATA AT 18Z SHOWED MODELS ALL REASONABLE WITH THE SFC MASS FIELDS OVER THE NORTH-CENTRAL CONUS. MOST...BUT FOR GFS...REMAINED GOOD WITH THE TRAPPED LOW LEVEL MOISTURE/CLOUDS OVER THE REGION. PER WV IMAGERY... ALL MODELS LOOKED REASONABLE WITH THE SHORTWAVE DETAILS OVER NOAM/ EASTERN PAC. NO CLEAR MODEL FAVORITE THIS CYCLE...BUT WITH ECMWF OFFERING SOMEWHAT BETTER RUN-TO-RUN CONSISTENCY FAVORED A MODEL/ ENSEMBLE BLEND WEIGHTED TOWARD THE ECMWF. HOWEVER GIVEN THE DETAIL DIFFERENCES...SHORT-TERM FCST CONFIDENCE AVERAGE THIS CYCLE. FOR THE SHORT TERM...SFC-850MB GRADIENT CONTINUES TO INCREASE OVER THE AREA TONIGHT...WITH A DRY WESTERLY COMPONENT OF THE FLOW. LOW CLOUDS WILL FINALLY CLEAR THE AREA LATE THIS AFTERNOON/EARLY THIS EVENING. MODEL SOUNDINGS/X-SECTIONS THEN INDICATE A RATHER DEEP... DRY AIRMASS OVER THE AREA FOR LATER THIS EVENING INTO THU NIGHT AS MID LEVEL SHORTWAVE RIDGING BUILDS OVER THE AREA. MODERATE PRESSURE GRADIENT REMAINS OVER THE AREA FOR TONIGHT INTO THU NIGHT...TO LIMIT ANY FOG POTENTIAL TONIGHT AND FOR SOME LOW LEVEL MIXING ON THU. 925MB TEMPS ON THU PROGGED TO BE IN THE +8 TO +13C RANGE. QUESTION IS DEPTH OF MIXING. MODEL SOUNDINGS ONLY INDICATE MIXING TO ABOUT 950MB. EVEN SO...WITH PLENTY OF SUNSHINE ON THU HIGHS EXPECTED TO BE IN THE 50S...SOME 15-20 DEGREES ABOVE NORMAL. SOUTHWEST GRADIENT WINDS CONTINUE THU NIGHT...FOR LOWS REMAINING MUCH ABOVE NORMAL UNDER INCREASING HIGH CLOUDS. TEMPS REMAIN MILD FRI WITH THE WARM START AND SOUTHWEST FLOW AHEAD OF THE APROACHING LOW/TOUGH. GFS NOW THE LONE MODEL PRODUCING SOME -RA OVER THE SOUTHEAST PARTS OF THE FCST AREA FRI AFTERNOON. GFS MODEL SOUNDINGS AND X-SECTIONS INDICATE INITIAL FORCING/LIFT IS ABOVE 500MB WHILE COLUMN BELOW 500MB IS QUITE DRY THRU 00Z SAT. REMOVED SMALL FRI AFTERNOON -RA CHANCE FROM THE SOUTH END OF THE FCST AREA. DEEPER MOISTURE/LIFT AHEAD OF THE TROUGH ARRIVE FRI NIGHT...BUT PLENTY OF DETAIL DIFFERENCES WITH THE DEPTH/STRENGTH/TIMING OF THIS MOISTURE/FORCING/LIFT. GIVEN THESE DETAIL DIFFERENCES...ESPECIALLY WITH DEPTH OF MOISTURE/SATURATION OF THE COLUMN AHEAD OF THE SFC-MID LEVEL TROUGH AXIS...NOT MUCH FOR CONFIDENCE TO MAKE CHANGES TO PRECIP CHANCES IN THE FRI NIGHT/SAT FCST GRIDS. ECMWF WOULD IMPLY RAIN CHANCES NEED TO BE RAISED FRI NIGHT/SAT. MANY OF THE OTHER MODELS WOULD INDICATE THE CHANCES NEED TO BE LOWERED WITH THE DEEPER MOISTURE/SATURATION REMAINING EAST/ SOUTH OF THE FCST AREA. THUS LEFT MOST RAIN CHANCES FOR FRI NIGHT/ SAT AS IS FOR THIS CYCLE. TIGHTER SFC-850MB GRADIENT ON BACK SIDE OF THE SFC-850MB LOW IS OVER THE AREA SAT. THIS WITH MDT TO STRONG LOW LEVEL COLD ADVECTION AND 925MB WINDS INCREASING TO THE 35-40KT RANGE. DEPENDING ON TIMING/ARRIVAL OF THE STRONGER GRADIENT/COLD ADVECTION MAY YET NEED A WIND ADVISORY FOR PARTS OF THE AREA SAT. HIGHS SAT LIKELY TO BE IN THE MORNING WITH STEADY/SLOWLY FALLING TEMPS IN THE AFTERNOON. SOME INDICATIONS FOR SECONDARY SHORTWAVES TO ROTATE SOUTH IN THE BACK SIDE OF THE TROUGH LATE SAT/SAT NIGHT... ALONG WITH MOISTURE WRAPPING AROUND THE SFC-700MB LOW. WITH COLDER AIR IN PLACE...PRECIP CHANCES IN THE 20-40 PERCENT RANGE FOR RAIN/SNOW CHANGING TO SNOW SAT NIGHT REASONABLE FOR NOW. FAVORING A MODEL/ENSEMBLE CONSENSUS...GENERALLY TRENDED LOWS/HIGHS FOR TONIGHT THRU SAT NIGHT TOWARD A BLEND OF THE NUMERICAL GUIDANCE. .LONG TERM...SUNDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY 250 PM CST WED NOV 23 2011 23.00Z MEDIUM RANGE MODELS IN MODEST AGREEMENT WITH EACH OTHER AND THEIR PREVIOUS RUNS SUN...BUT STILL PLENTY OF DETAIL DIFFERENCES IN THE TROUGHING OVER THE EAST HALF OF THE CONUS. MODEST AGREEMENT CONTINUES MON THE NEXT STRONGER SHORTWAVE TROUGH/ENERGY DROPS INTO THE NORTHERN PLAINS. TREND IS SLOWER/FURTHER SOUTH WITH AN UPPER LOW IN THE SOUTHEAST CONUS. MODELS DIVERGE CONSIDERABLY WITH THE DETAILS BY TUE AND FOR WED...BUT A GENERAL CONSENSUS FOR LONGWAVE TROUGHING OVER EASTERN NOAM AND LONGWAVE RIDGING ALONG THE WEST COAST. NONE OF THE MODEL DISPLAYING CLEARLY BETTER RUN-TO-RUN CONSISTENCY THAN THE OTHERS IN THE SUN-WED PERIOD. OF NOTE THOUGH 23.06Z GFS TRENDED CLOSER TO 23.00Z ECMWF THRU MUCH OF THE DAY 4-7 PERIOD WHILE 23.12Z GFS TRENDED MUCH MORE PROGRESSIVE WITH THE SOUTHEAST CONUS SYSTEM MON/TUE. NEEDLESS TO SAY...LONG-TERM FCST CONFIDENCE BELOW AVERAGE THIS CYCLE. WITH NO CLEAR MODEL FAVORITE OR NO ONE MODEL SHOWING BETTER RUN-TO-RUN CONSISTENCY...PREFER THE PMDEPD IDEA OF FAVORING A MODEL/ENSEMBLE BLEND FOR NOW. SOME CONSENSUS FOR SHORTWAVE RIDGING AND HIGH PRESSURE TO BUILD OVER THE AREA FOR SUN IN THE WAKE OF THE DEPARTING SAT SYSTEM...FOR A COOL/DRY DAY SUNDAY. NEXT TROUGH/SHORT-WAVE MOVES ACROSS THE NORTHERN PLAINS MON...BUT DIFFERENCES OF SPEED/STRENGTH APPEAR. THESE DIFFERENCES...ESPECIALLY AT THE LOWER LEVELS...INCREASE FOR TUE INTO WED. GFS WITH A SLOWER/ STRONGER SYSTEM ACROSS THE UPPER MIDWEST/GREAT LAKES LATE MON-WED WITH ECMWF WEAKER/MORE PROGRESSIVE SYSTEM. AGAIN LIKE PMDEPD IDEA...FCST GRIDS FOR MON-WED INCORPORATED A STRONG MODEL/ENSEMBLE CONSENSUS/BLEND UNTIL CLEARER DETAILS/ SIGNALS ARE SEEN. OVERALL LONGWAVE TROUGHING IN THE EASTERN CONUS AND RIDGING OVER WESTERN NOAM RESULTS IN NORTHWEST FLOW ALOFT OVER THE NORTH-CENTRAL CONUS. TEMPERATURES FOR THE SUN-WED PERIOD LOOKING TO BE CLOSER TO NORMAL. && .AVIATION...TODAY AND TONIGHT 1115 AM CST WED NOV 23 2011 MVFR/IFR STRATUS DECK PERSISTS ACROSS THE REGION...PER LATEST SATELLITE IMAGERY AND SFC OBS. RUC RH FIELDS AND BUFKIT SOUNDINGS SUGGEST THIS MAY HOLD THROUGH THE EARLY/MID AFTERNOON HOURS...WITH EROSION/LIFTING AS THE CLOUD DECK TRANSITIONS EAST LATER THIS AFTERNOON. NAM12/RUC13 SOUNDINGS THEN SUGGEST THAT THIS NEAR SFC SATURATION WOULD REESTABLISH ITSELF UNDER THE LOW LEVEL INVERSION TONIGHT. MORE LOW STRATUS COULD DEVELOP AS A RESULT. HOWEVER...THE SFC RIDGE AXIS SHIFTS EAST OVERNIGHT...ALLOWING FOR MORE STIRRING IN THE VERTICAL AND SFC WINDS...UNLIKE THE LIGHTER WIND REGIME OF THIS MORNING. SO...WILL LEAN TOWARD SKC-SCT FOR NOW. THIS POTENTIAL FOR LOW STRATUS WILL HAVE TO BE MONITORED...HOWEVER...THROUGH THE NIGHTTIME HOURS. && .ARX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... 250 PM CST WED NOV 23 2011 WI...NONE. MN...NONE. IA...NONE. && $$ SHORT TERM...RRS LONG TERM....RRS AVIATION.....RIECK
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS GREEN BAY WI
222 PM CST WED NOV 23 2011 .SHORT TERM...FORECASTING CLOUD COVER IS THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE OF TONIGHT AND TOMORROWS FORECAST...AS IT HAS BEEN FOR THE LAST FEW DAYS. IT IS USUALLY WISE TO KEEP CLOUDS AROUND IN NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER AND WILL KEEP MORE CLOUDS IN THE FORECAST THAN THE GUIDANCE WOULD INDICATE. THE RUC HAD THE BEST FORECAST OF THE CLOUD COVER THIS AFTERNOON WITH CLEARING OCCURING IN THE DOWNSLOPE AREA OF NORTHEAST WISCONSIN. IT WOULD KEEP THE CURRENT CLOUDS IN THE WESTERN PART OF THE FORECAST AREA FOR MOST OF THE NIGHT WITH CLOUDS REFORMING GENERALLY NORTH OF GREEN BAY IN THE EAST. DIFFICULT TO SAY FOR SURE. WE HAVE TRIED JUST ABOUT EVERY MODEL FIELD (1000MB TO 925MB, 925MB, 925 TO 950MB RELATIVE HUMIDITY, MOISTURE TRANSPORT VECTORS, AND HRR CEILING HEIGHTS) BUT NONE DEPICT THE CURRENT CLOUDS THAT WELL. LOWS TONIGHT SHOULD BE ABOVE NORMAL ONCE AGAIN DUE TO MILD BOUNDARY LAYER TEMPERATURES, A STEADY BREEZE AND CLOUDS. THE COOLEST TEMPERATURES SHOULD BE IN VALLEYS WITH CLEAR SKIES AND IN AREAS WITH SNOW ON THE GROUND. THANKSGIVING MAY NOT BE QUITE AS MILD AS IT LOOKED LIKE A FEW DAYS AGO AS THERE IS A POSSIBILITY THAT THE DAY COULD START OUT WITH CLOUDS LIKE MOST OF THE LAST FEW DAYS. 925MB TEMPERATURES ARE VERY MILD THOUGH, AND EVEN WITH CLOUDS IT WILL BE 10 TO 15 DEGREES ABOVE NORMAL AND THERE SHOULD AT LEAST BE SOME SUNSHINE BY AFTERNOON IN MOST PLACES. .LONG TERM...THURSDAY NIGHT TO WEDNESDAY. SOUTHERLY FLOW AHEAD OF A WEAK COLD FRONT EXPECTED THURSDAY EVENING. GRADIENT EXPECTED TO SLACKEN DURING THE NIGHT...ESPECIALLY ACROSS THE NORTH. DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH SNOW PACK IS LEFT...ENOUGH EVIDENCE TO ADD FOG AFTER MIDNIGHT OVER THE FAR NORTH. MODELS TODAY ARE SHOWING LOW LEVEL MOISTURE TRAPPED BELOW AN INVERSION LATER THURSDAY NIGHT INTO FRIDAY. QUESTION IS HOW QUICK THIS LAYER WILL SATURATE. DO THINK BEST SATURATION WILL OCCUR ACROSS THE NORTH. CONFIDENCE IS NOT THAT GREAT ACROSS THE SOUTH DUE TO DIFFERING NUMERICAL GUIDANCE VALUES FOR CLOUD HEIGHT. WITH EXPECTED LOW CLOUDS TO DEVELOP ACROSS THE NORTH AND WEAK UPWARD VERTICAL MOTIONS...THOUGHTS TURNED TO THE POTENTIAL FOR DRIZZLE LATE THURSDAY NIGHT INTO FRIDAY. DO THINK MOISTURE WILL BE TOO SHALLOW THURSDAY NIGHT INTO FRIDAY MORNING... BUT CLOUD LAYER MAY BE DEEP ENOUGH TO SUPPORT DRIZZLE FRIDAY AFTERNOON. DID NOT ADD DRIZZLE TO THE FORECAST ACROSS THE NORTH ON FRIDAY AND WILL PASS ON MY CONCERNS TO MIDNIGHT SHIFT. FOR FRIDAY NIGHT...MOIST SOUTHERLY FLOW EXPECTED ACROSS THE AREA. THINK PRECIPITATION WILL START OUT AS DRIZZLE WITH A MORE STEADIER RAIN LATE FRIDAY NIGHT INTO SATURDAY AS FRONT APPROACHES. PRECIPITATION WILL CONTINUE INTO SATURDAY. MORE QUESTIONS APPEAR ON SATURDAY AS SEVERAL MODELS SHOW A DRY SLOT MOVING ACROSS THE REGION SATURDAY AFTERNOON INTO SATURDAY NIGHT. DESPITE A FEW MODELS DRYING US OUT FOR AWHILE... WILL CONTINUE A CHANCE OF RAIN SATURDAY AFTERNOON AND RAIN OR SNOW SATURDAY NIGHT. MANY QUESTIONS LINGER SATURDAY NIGHT ON HOW FAST THE COLD AIR WILL ARRIVE. LATER SHIFTS WILL PROBABLY NEED TO ALTER TIMING THE CHANGEOVER TO ALL SNOW ACROSS SOME PORTION OF THE FORECAST AREA. OTHERWISE...ANOTHER SYSTEM WILL MOVE ACROSS THE AREA MONDAY NIGHT AND TUESDAY AND WILL BRING ANOTHER SMALL CHANCE FOR RAIN OR SNOW TO THE AREA. && .AVIATION...IFR/MVFR CIGS EXPECTED FOR MUCH OF THE NIGHT AT ISW/CWA/STE/AIG/RRL/RRL/ARV/EGV. CLOUDS MAY CLEAR TO SOME EXTENT AT GRB/ATW/OSH/SUE/PCZ/Y50/MTW THIS EVENING AND THEN REFORM LATE TONIGHT. VERY TRICKY CLOUD FORECAST. WHERE SKIES ARE CLEAR THERE WILL LIKELY BE FROST ON AIRCRAFT PARKED ON THE RAMP. LOW LEVEL WIND SHEAR POSSIBLE TONIGHT WITH SOUTHWEST WINDS AROUND 35 KNOTS AT 1000` AGL AND SURFACE WINDS FROM THE SOUTH AT 5 TO 10 KNOTS. && .MARINE...HAZARDOUS CONDITIONS WITH GALE FORCE ARE POSSIBLE OVER THE UPCOMING WEEKEND. MODEL DIFFERENCES IN STRENGTH AND TIMING OF THIS SYSTEM THIS WEEKEND ARE MITIGATING FACTORS IN INTRODUCING GALES IN THE HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK. IT APPEARS THAT THE STRONGEST WINDS WILL BE SATURDAY NIGHT INTO SUNDAY...BUT COULD START SATURDAY AFTERNOON IF THE QUICKER MODEL SOLUTION IS CORRECT. && .GRB WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... NONE. && $$ RDM/ECKBERG
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS LA CROSSE WI
1115 AM CST WED NOV 23 2011 .SHORT TERM...TODAY THROUGH FRIDAY 346 AM CST WED NOV 23 2011 AT 3 AM...WE ARE CONTINUING TO WATCH A BAND OF LOW CLOUDS MOVING EAST ACROSS THE FORECAST AREA. THIS HAS BEEN SHOWING UP WELL IN THE FOG /11-3.9 MICRON/ CHANNEL OF THE SATELLITE LOOP. HOWEVER DURING THE PAST TWO HOURS...THE WESTERN EXTENT OF THESE LOW CLOUDS HAS BEEN BECOMING LESS DISCERNIBLE AS HIGHER CLOUDS ASSOCIATED WITH THE 700-500 MB TROUGH MOVES OVER THEM. THE 23.00Z NAM/WRF AND 23.05Z RUC CONTINUE TO SHOW THAT THESE CLOUDS WILL LINGER ACROSS MUCH OF THE FORECAST AREA THIS MORNING...AND THEN GRADUALLY MOVE EAST OUT OF THE AREA THIS AFTERNOON. AS A RESULT...WENT WITH A MOSTLY CLOUDY MORNING...AND DECREASING CLOUDS FOR THIS AFTERNOON. AS A VERY WARM AIR MASS MOVES INTO THE REGION FROM THIS AFTERNOON INTO THANKSGIVING...BUFKIT SOUNDINGS CONTINUE TO SUGGEST THAT MUCH OF THIS WARMING WILL TAKE PLACE ALOFT. THIS WILL END UP SETTING UP A VERY STRONG INVERSION WHICH WILL GREATLY LIMIT HOW DEEP THAT THE AREA WILL BE ABLE TO MIX FOR BOTH THANKSGIVING AND FRIDAY. AT THIS TIME...IT LOOKS LIKE MIXING WILL ONLY EXTEND UP TO 950 MB AT BEST. MIXING THESE TEMPERATURES DOWN TO THE SURFACE...ONLY RESULTS IN AFTERNOON HIGH TEMPERATURES RANGING FROM THE MID 40S TO MID 50S. THEREFORE WE MAY HAVE TO RELY ON WARM SURFACE AIR BEING ADVECTED INTO THE REGION TO REACH ANYWHERE NEAR 60 DEGREES. THEREFORE CONCERNED THAT THE MODELS MAYBE OVERDOING SOME OF THE HIGH TEMPERATURES. THIS IS ESPECIALLY THE CASE ON THANKSGIVING DUE TO THE LIGHTER WINDS. ON THURSDAY NIGHT...THE ECMWF CONTINUES TO BE ABOUT 5 DEGREES WARMER THAN THE ALL BLEND. THE ECMWF IS A BIT MORE BELIEVABLE IN THIS SYNOPTIC REGIME /SOUTHERLY WINDS AHEAD OF AN APPROACHING TROUGH/. AS A RESULT...RAISED THE MINIMUM TEMPERATURES A FEW MORE DEGREES. THIS WAS ALSO DONE TO FRIDAY NIGHT TOO. .LONG TERM...FRIDAY NIGHT THROUGH TUESDAY 346 AM CST WED NOV 23 2011 THE 23.00Z MODELS CONTINUE TO BE IN FRAILLY GOOD AGREEMENT THAT A LONG WAVE TROUGH WILL MOVE EAST ACROSS THE FORECAST AREA ON SATURDAY NIGHT. THERE CONTINUES TO BE TWO STRONG SHORT WAVE TROUGHS EMBEDDED IN THIS TROUGH. THE FIRST OF THESE SYSTEMS IS EXPECTED TO MOVE EAST ACROSS THE NORTHERN PORTIONS OF PRAIRIE PROVIDENCES OF CANADA /SASKATCHEWAN AND MANITOBA/. MEANWHILE THE OTHER SHORT WAVE TROUGH WILL BE MOVING EAST ACROSS CENTRAL PLAINS...AND THE MID AND UPPER MISSISSIPPI RIVER VALLEYS. A SURFACE COLD FRONT ASSOCIATED WITH THE LATTER OF THE TWO SHORT WAVE TROUGHS WILL MOVE THROUGH THE AREA ON SATURDAY. AT THIS TIME...THE BEST MOISTURE TRANSPORT AND ISENTROPIC LIFT WILL AFFECT THE AREA ON FRIDAY NIGHT AND EARLY SATURDAY MORNING. WITH THIS SAID...THERE ARE STILL SOME SUBTLE DIFFERENCES ON WHEN AND WHERE THE PRECIPITATION WILL DEVELOP ACROSS THE AREA. AS RESULT...JUST KEPT THE PRECIPITATION CHANCES IN THE LIKELY /55 TO 64 PERCENT/ RANGE FOR FRIDAY NIGHT. THE PRECIPITATION CHANCES THEN GRADUALLY LOWER FROM SATURDAY THROUGH SUNDAY AS THE SYSTEM MOVES EAST OUT OF THE AREA. IN THE WAKE OF THIS FRONT...TEMPERATURES WILL COOL ENOUGH ALOFT FOR THE PRECIPITATION TO GRADUALLY CHANGE OVER TO LIGHT SNOW ON SATURDAY NIGHT /MAYBE LATE SATURDAY AFTERNOON ACROSS NORTHEAST IOWA AND SOUTHEAST MINNESOTA/...AND THEN POSSIBLY BACK TO RAIN ON SUNDAY AS THE BOUNDARY LAYER WARMS. WITH THE PRECIPITATION SO LIGHT AND THE GROUND STILL WARM...NOT EXPECTING TOO MUCH SNOW ACCUMULATIONS WITH THIS SYSTEM. FOR EARLY NEXT WEEK...THE MODELS CONTINUE TO STRUGGLE AS THE OPERATIONAL RUNS OF BOTH THE GFS AND ECMWF HAVE BEEN GOING BACK AND FORTH ON WHETHER A CLOSED LOW WILL DEVELOP SOMEWHERE IN THE EASTERN CONUS. MUCH OF THIS IS A RESULT OF THE MODELS TRYING TO DEVELOP A BLOCKING RIDGE OVER THE WESTERN ATLANTIC. LOOKING AT THE PROGRESSIVE AND RATHER ACTIVE WAVE PATTERN THAT EXISTS FROM NORTHERN AFRICA EAST INTO THE EASTERN PACIFIC...IT DOES NOT MAKE THAT MUCH SENSE THAT THERE WOULD BE SO MUCH BLOCKINESS ACROSS THE WESTERN ATLANTIC. IN THIS TYPE OF FLOW PATTERN...SYSTEMS ARE USUALLY RATHER TRANSITORY. WONDERING IF THE FLOW PATTERN IS SO ACTIVE THAT THE MODELS ARE HAVING A HARD TIME DEALING WITH SO MANY WAVES IN THE FLOW PATTERN...AND THIS IS LEADING TO PART OF THE RUN-TO-RUN INCONSISTENCIES IN THE MODELS DURING THE PAST WEEK. IF THIS WAS NOT ENOUGH OF A PROBLEM...WE MAY IN STORE EVEN LESS CERTAINTY IN THE EXTENDED MODELS IN THE 8 TO 14 DAY TIME PERIOD. THE REASON FOR THIS IS THERE CONTINUES TO BE VERY GOOD CONSENSUS IN THE GLOBAL /BRAZILIAN...CANADIAN...ECMWF... JAPANESE...AND U.S./ MODELS THAT THE MADDEN JULIAN OSCILLATION /MJO/ WHICH IS LOCATED IN THE INDIAN OCEAN WILL RAPIDLY INTENSIFY DURING THIS TIME PERIOD. SINCE THE MODELS USUALLY STRUGGLE INITIALLY IN THESE PATTERNS...MODEL RUN-TO-RUN CONSISTENCY MAY BE FAR LESS THAN DESIRED. IT IS INTERESTING TO NOTE THAT CATEGORY 2 HURRICANE KENNETH IN THE EASTERN PACIFIC IS LOCATED IN AN AREA OF FAVORED DEVELOPMENT WHEN THE MJO IS LOCATED IN ITS CURRENT POSITION. && .AVIATION... 1115 AM CST WED NOV 23 2011 MVFR/IFR STRATUS DECK PERSISTS ACROSS THE REGION...PER LATEST SATELLITE IMAGERY AND SFC OBS. RUC RH FIELDS AND BUFKIT SOUNDINGS SUGGEST THIS MAY HOLD THROUGH THE EARLY/MID AFTERNOON HOURS...WITH EROSION/LIFTING AS THE CLOUD DECK TRANSITIONS EAST LATER THIS AFTERNOON. NAM12/RUC13 SOUNDINGS THEN SUGGEST THAT THIS NEAR SFC SATURATION WOULD REESTABLISH ITSELF UNDER THE LOW LEVEL INVERSION TONIGHT. MORE LOW STRATUS COULD DEVELOP AS A RESULT. HOWEVER...THE SFC RIDGE AXIS SHIFTS EAST OVERNIGHT...ALLOWING FOR MORE STIRRING IN THE VERTICAL AND SFC WINDS...UNLIKE THE LIGHTER WIND REGIME OF THIS MORNING. SO...WILL LEAN TOWARD SKC-SCT FOR NOW. THIS POTENTIAL FOR LOW STRATUS WILL HAVE TO BE MONITORED...HOWEVER...THROUGH THE NIGHTTIME HOURS. && .ARX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... 242 AM CST WED NOV 23 2011 WI...NONE. MN...NONE. IA...NONE. && $$ SHORT TERM... BOYNE LONG TERM.... BOYNE AVIATION..... RIECK
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS LA CROSSE WI
535 AM CST WED NOV 23 2011 .SHORT TERM...TODAY THROUGH FRIDAY 346 AM CST WED NOV 23 2011 AT 3 AM...WE ARE CONTINUING TO WATCH A BAND OF LOW CLOUDS MOVING EAST ACROSS THE FORECAST AREA. THIS HAS BEEN SHOWING UP WELL IN THE FOG /11-3.9 MICRON/ CHANNEL OF THE SATELLITE LOOP. HOWEVER DURING THE PAST TWO HOURS...THE WESTERN EXTENT OF THESE LOW CLOUDS HAS BEEN BECOMING LESS DISCERNIBLE AS HIGHER CLOUDS ASSOCIATED WITH THE 700-500 MB TROUGH MOVES OVER THEM. THE 23.00Z NAM/WRF AND 23.05Z RUC CONTINUE TO SHOW THAT THESE CLOUDS WILL LINGER ACROSS MUCH OF THE FORECAST AREA THIS MORNING...AND THEN GRADUALLY MOVE EAST OUT OF THE AREA THIS AFTERNOON. AS A RESULT...WENT WITH A MOSTLY CLOUDY MORNING...AND DECREASING CLOUDS FOR THIS AFTERNOON. AS A VERY WARM AIR MASS MOVES INTO THE REGION FROM THIS AFTERNOON INTO THANKSGIVING...BUFKIT SOUNDINGS CONTINUE TO SUGGEST THAT MUCH OF THIS WARMING WILL TAKE PLACE ALOFT. THIS WILL END UP SETTING UP A VERY STRONG INVERSION WHICH WILL GREATLY LIMIT HOW DEEP THAT THE AREA WILL BE ABLE TO MIX FOR BOTH THANKSGIVING AND FRIDAY. AT THIS TIME...IT LOOKS LIKE MIXING WILL ONLY EXTEND UP TO 950 MB AT BEST. MIXING THESE TEMPERATURES DOWN TO THE SURFACE...ONLY RESULTS IN AFTERNOON HIGH TEMPERATURES RANGING FROM THE MID 40S TO MID 50S. THEREFORE WE MAY HAVE TO RELY ON WARM SURFACE AIR BEING ADVECTED INTO THE REGION TO REACH ANYWHERE NEAR 60 DEGREES. THEREFORE CONCERNED THAT THE MODELS MAYBE OVERDOING SOME OF THE HIGH TEMPERATURES. THIS IS ESPECIALLY THE CASE ON THANKSGIVING DUE TO THE LIGHTER WINDS. ON THURSDAY NIGHT...THE ECMWF CONTINUES TO BE ABOUT 5 DEGREES WARMER THAN THE ALL BLEND. THE ECMWF IS A BIT MORE BELIEVABLE IN THIS SYNOPTIC REGIME /SOUTHERLY WINDS AHEAD OF AN APPROACHING TROUGH/. AS A RESULT...RAISED THE MINIMUM TEMPERATURES A FEW MORE DEGREES. THIS WAS ALSO DONE TO FRIDAY NIGHT TOO. .LONG TERM...FRIDAY NIGHT THROUGH TUESDAY 346 AM CST WED NOV 23 2011 THE 23.00Z MODELS CONTINUE TO BE IN FRAILLY GOOD AGREEMENT THAT A LONG WAVE TROUGH WILL MOVE EAST ACROSS THE FORECAST AREA ON SATURDAY NIGHT. THERE CONTINUES TO BE TWO STRONG SHORT WAVE TROUGHS EMBEDDED IN THIS TROUGH. THE FIRST OF THESE SYSTEMS IS EXPECTED TO MOVE EAST ACROSS THE NORTHERN PORTIONS OF PRAIRIE PROVIDENCES OF CANADA /SASKATCHEWAN AND MANITOBA/. MEANWHILE THE OTHER SHORT WAVE TROUGH WILL BE MOVING EAST ACROSS CENTRAL PLAINS...AND THE MID AND UPPER MISSISSIPPI RIVER VALLEYS. A SURFACE COLD FRONT ASSOCIATED WITH THE LATTER OF THE TWO SHORT WAVE TROUGHS WILL MOVE THROUGH THE AREA ON SATURDAY. AT THIS TIME...THE BEST MOISTURE TRANSPORT AND ISENTROPIC LIFT WILL AFFECT THE AREA ON FRIDAY NIGHT AND EARLY SATURDAY MORNING. WITH THIS SAID...THERE ARE STILL SOME SUBTLE DIFFERENCES ON WHEN AND WHERE THE PRECIPITATION WILL DEVELOP ACROSS THE AREA. AS RESULT...JUST KEPT THE PRECIPITATION CHANCES IN THE LIKELY /55 TO 64 PERCENT/ RANGE FOR FRIDAY NIGHT. THE PRECIPITATION CHANCES THEN GRADUALLY LOWER FROM SATURDAY THROUGH SUNDAY AS THE SYSTEM MOVES EAST OUT OF THE AREA. IN THE WAKE OF THIS FRONT...TEMPERATURES WILL COOL ENOUGH ALOFT FOR THE PRECIPITATION TO GRADUALLY CHANGE OVER TO LIGHT SNOW ON SATURDAY NIGHT /MAYBE LATE SATURDAY AFTERNOON ACROSS NORTHEAST IOWA AND SOUTHEAST MINNESOTA/...AND THEN POSSIBLY BACK TO RAIN ON SUNDAY AS THE BOUNDARY LAYER WARMS. WITH THE PRECIPITATION SO LIGHT AND THE GROUND STILL WARM...NOT EXPECTING TOO MUCH SNOW ACCUMULATIONS WITH THIS SYSTEM. FOR EARLY NEXT WEEK...THE MODELS CONTINUE TO STRUGGLE AS THE OPERATIONAL RUNS OF BOTH THE GFS AND ECMWF HAVE BEEN GOING BACK AND FORTH ON WHETHER A CLOSED LOW WILL DEVELOP SOMEWHERE IN THE EASTERN CONUS. MUCH OF THIS IS A RESULT OF THE MODELS TRYING TO DEVELOP A BLOCKING RIDGE OVER THE WESTERN ATLANTIC. LOOKING AT THE PROGRESSIVE AND RATHER ACTIVE WAVE PATTERN THAT EXISTS FROM NORTHERN AFRICA EAST INTO THE EASTERN PACIFIC...IT DOES NOT MAKE THAT MUCH SENSE THAT THERE WOULD BE SO MUCH BLOCKINESS ACROSS THE WESTERN ATLANTIC. IN THIS TYPE OF FLOW PATTERN...SYSTEMS ARE USUALLY RATHER TRANSITORY. WONDERING IF THE FLOW PATTERN IS SO ACTIVE THAT THE MODELS ARE HAVING A HARD TIME DEALING WITH SO MANY WAVES IN THE FLOW PATTERN...AND THIS IS LEADING TO PART OF THE RUN-TO-RUN INCONSISTENCIES IN THE MODELS DURING THE PAST WEEK. IF THIS WAS NOT ENOUGH OF A PROBLEM...WE MAY IN STORE EVEN LESS CERTAINTY IN THE EXTENDED MODELS IN THE 8 TO 14 DAY TIME PERIOD. THE REASON FOR THIS IS THERE CONTINUES TO BE VERY GOOD CONSENSUS IN THE GLOBAL /BRAZILIAN...CANADIAN...ECMWF... JAPANESE...AND U.S./ MODELS THAT THE MADDEN JULIAN OSCILLATION /MJO/ WHICH IS LOCATED IN THE INDIAN OCEAN WILL RAPIDLY INTENSIFY DURING THIS TIME PERIOD. SINCE THE MODELS USUALLY STRUGGLE INITIALLY IN THESE PATTERNS...MODEL RUN-TO-RUN CONSISTENCY MAY BE FAR LESS THAN DESIRED. IT IS INTERESTING TO NOTE THAT CATEGORY 2 HURRICANE KENNETH IN THE EASTERN PACIFIC IS LOCATED IN AN AREA OF FAVORED DEVELOPMENT WHEN THE MJO IS LOCATED IN ITS CURRENT POSITION. && .AVIATION...TODAY AND TONIGHT 535 AM CST WED NOV 23 2011 IR SATELLITE THIS MORNING SHOWS A LARGE AREA OF STRATUS CLOUDS FROM NORTHEAST MINNESOTA/NORTHWEST WISCONSIN SOUTH INTO MISSOURI. CEILINGS IN THIS DECK ARE PRIMARILY MVFR WITH SOME OCCASIONAL MVFR VISIBILITIES IN FOG AS WELL. THE 23.06Z NAM AND 23.09Z RUC SEEM TO HAVE A DECENT HANDLE ON THE LOW LEVEL MOISTURE FIELD AND SUGGEST THESE CLOUDS WILL HANG ON THROUGH THE MORNING HOURS. BOTH MODELS SUGGEST KRST SHOULD BREAK OUT FIRST AND WILL GIVE A TIMING OF THIS OCCURRING AROUND 18Z. KLSE WILL BE A LITTLE SLOWER AND WILL SHOW THIS HAPPENING AT 20Z. THE RELATIVE HUMIDITY PROGS FROM THE NAM SUGGEST GOOD DRYING WILL OCCUR THEN THROUGH THE REMAINDER OF THE DAY INTO THE EVENING BUT LOOKING AT THE BUFKIT SOUNDINGS...THE TEMP/DEW POINT PROFILE STAY WITHIN A COUPLE DEGREES OF EACH OTHER WHERE THE MOISTURE IS CURRENTLY PRESENT. AS TEMPERATURES COOL THIS EVENING...BOTH THE NAM AND RUC SUGGEST SATURATION WILL OCCUR AGAIN WITH ANOTHER STRATUS DECK UNDER THE INVERSION. NOT SEEING ANY INDICATIONS OF THIS OCCURRING TONIGHT OUT ACROSS WESTERN MINNESOTA WHERE THE STRATUS DECK WAS LAST NIGHT...SO FOR NOW...WILL NOT INCLUDE THIS IN THE FORECASTS. && .ARX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... 242 AM CST WED NOV 23 2011 WI...NONE. MN...NONE. IA...NONE. && $$ SHORT TERM...BOYNE LONG TERM...BOYNE AVIATION...04
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS LA CROSSE WI
347 AM CST WED NOV 23 2011 .SHORT TERM...TODAY THROUGH FRIDAY 346 AM CST WED NOV 23 2011 AT 3 AM...WE ARE CONTINUING TO WATCH A BAND OF LOW CLOUDS MOVING EAST ACROSS THE FORECAST AREA. THIS HAS BEEN SHOWING UP WELL IN THE FOG /11-3.9 MICRON/ CHANNEL OF THE SATELLITE LOOP. HOWEVER DURING THE PAST TWO HOURS...THE WESTERN EXTENT OF THESE LOW CLOUDS HAS BEEN BECOMING LESS DISCERNIBLE AS HIGHER CLOUDS ASSOCIATED WITH THE 700-500 MB TROUGH MOVES OVER THEM. THE 23.00Z NAM/WRF AND 23.05Z RUC CONTINUE TO SHOW THAT THESE CLOUDS WILL LINGER ACROSS MUCH OF THE FORECAST AREA THIS MORNING...AND THEN GRADUALLY MOVE EAST OUT OF THE AREA THIS AFTERNOON. AS A RESULT...WENT WITH A MOSTLY CLOUDY MORNING...AND DECREASING CLOUDS FOR THIS AFTERNOON. AS A VERY WARM AIR MASS MOVES INTO THE REGION FROM THIS AFTERNOON INTO THANKSGIVING...BUFKIT SOUNDINGS CONTINUE TO SUGGEST THAT MUCH OF THIS WARMING WILL TAKE PLACE ALOFT. THIS WILL END UP SETTING UP A VERY STRONG INVERSION WHICH WILL GREATLY LIMIT HOW DEEP THAT THE AREA WILL BE ABLE TO MIX FOR BOTH THANKSGIVING AND FRIDAY. AT THIS TIME...IT LOOKS LIKE MIXING WILL ONLY EXTEND UP TO 950 MB AT BEST. MIXING THESE TEMPERATURES DOWN TO THE SURFACE...ONLY RESULTS IN AFTERNOON HIGH TEMPERATURES RANGING FROM THE MID 40S TO MID 50S. THEREFORE WE MAY HAVE TO RELY ON WARM SURFACE AIR BEING ADVECTED INTO THE REGION TO REACH ANYWHERE NEAR 60 DEGREES. THEREFORE CONCERNED THAT THE MODELS MAYBE OVERDOING SOME OF THE HIGH TEMPERATURES. THIS IS ESPECIALLY THE CASE ON THANKSGIVING DUE TO THE LIGHTER WINDS. ON THURSDAY NIGHT...THE ECMWF CONTINUES TO BE ABOUT 5 DEGREES WARMER THAN THE ALL BLEND. THE ECMWF IS A BIT MORE BELIEVABLE IN THIS SYNOPTIC REGIME /SOUTHERLY WINDS AHEAD OF AN APPROACHING TROUGH/. AS A RESULT...RAISED THE MINIMUM TEMPERATURES A FEW MORE DEGREES. THIS WAS ALSO DONE TO FRIDAY NIGHT TOO. .LONG TERM...FRIDAY NIGHT THROUGH TUESDAY 346 AM CST WED NOV 23 2011 THE 23.00Z MODELS CONTINUE TO BE IN FRAILLY GOOD AGREEMENT THAT A LONG WAVE TROUGH WILL MOVE EAST ACROSS THE FORECAST AREA ON SATURDAY NIGHT. THERE CONTINUES TO BE TWO STRONG SHORT WAVE TROUGHS EMBEDDED IN THIS TROUGH. THE FIRST OF THESE SYSTEMS IS EXPECTED TO MOVE EAST ACROSS THE NORTHERN PORTIONS OF PRAIRIE PROVIDENCES OF CANADA /SASKATCHEWAN AND MANITOBA/. MEANWHILE THE OTHER SHORT WAVE TROUGH WILL BE MOVING EAST ACROSS CENTRAL PLAINS...AND THE MID AND UPPER MISSISSIPPI RIVER VALLEYS. A SURFACE COLD FRONT ASSOCIATED WITH THE LATTER OF THE TWO SHORT WAVE TROUGHS WILL MOVE THROUGH THE AREA ON SATURDAY. AT THIS TIME...THE BEST MOISTURE TRANSPORT AND ISENTROPIC LIFT WILL AFFECT THE AREA ON FRIDAY NIGHT AND EARLY SATURDAY MORNING. WITH THIS SAID...THERE ARE STILL SOME SUBTLE DIFFERENCES ON WHEN AND WHERE THE PRECIPITATION WILL DEVELOP ACROSS THE AREA. AS RESULT...JUST KEPT THE PRECIPITATION CHANCES IN THE LIKELY /55 TO 64 PERCENT/ RANGE FOR FRIDAY NIGHT. THE PRECIPITATION CHANCES THEN GRADUALLY LOWER FROM SATURDAY THROUGH SUNDAY AS THE SYSTEM MOVES EAST OUT OF THE AREA. IN THE WAKE OF THIS FRONT...TEMPERATURES WILL COOL ENOUGH ALOFT FOR THE PRECIPITATION TO GRADUALLY CHANGE OVER TO LIGHT SNOW ON SATURDAY NIGHT /MAYBE LATE SATURDAY AFTERNOON ACROSS NORTHEAST IOWA AND SOUTHEAST MINNESOTA/...AND THEN POSSIBLY BACK TO RAIN ON SUNDAY AS THE BOUNDARY LAYER WARMS. WITH THE PRECIPITATION SO LIGHT AND THE GROUND STILL WARM...NOT EXPECTING TOO MUCH SNOW ACCUMULATIONS WITH THIS SYSTEM. FOR EARLY NEXT WEEK...THE MODELS CONTINUE TO STRUGGLE AS THE OPERATIONAL RUNS OF BOTH THE GFS AND ECMWF HAVE BEEN GOING BACK AND FORTH ON WHETHER A CLOSED LOW WILL DEVELOP SOMEWHERE IN THE EASTERN CONUS. MUCH OF THIS IS A RESULT OF THE MODELS TRYING TO DEVELOP A BLOCKING RIDGE OVER THE WESTERN ATLANTIC. LOOKING AT THE PROGRESSIVE AND RATHER ACTIVE WAVE PATTERN THAT EXISTS FROM NORTHERN AFRICA EAST INTO THE EASTERN PACIFIC...IT DOES NOT MAKE THAT MUCH SENSE THAT THERE WOULD BE SO MUCH BLOCKINESS ACROSS THE WESTERN ATLANTIC. IN THIS TYPE OF FLOW PATTERN...SYSTEMS ARE USUALLY RATHER TRANSITORY. WONDERING IF THE FLOW PATTERN IS SO ACTIVE THAT THE MODELS ARE HAVING A HARD TIME DEALING WITH SO MANY WAVES IN THE FLOW PATTERN...AND THIS IS LEADING TO PART OF THE RUN-TO-RUN INCONSISTENCIES IN THE MODELS DURING THE PAST WEEK. IF THIS WAS NOT ENOUGH OF A PROBLEM...WE MAY IN STORE EVEN LESS CERTAINTY IN THE EXTENDED MODELS IN THE 8 TO 14 DAY TIME PERIOD. THE REASON FOR THIS IS THERE CONTINUES TO BE VERY GOOD CONSENSUS IN THE GLOBAL /BRAZILIAN...CANADIAN...ECMWF... JAPANESE...AND U.S./ MODELS THAT THE MADDEN JULIAN OSCILLATION /MJO/ WHICH IS LOCATED IN THE INDIAN OCEAN WILL RAPIDLY INTENSIFY DURING THIS TIME PERIOD. SINCE THE MODELS USUALLY STRUGGLE INITIALLY IN THESE PATTERNS...MODEL RUN-TO-RUN CONSISTENCY MAY BE FAR LESS THAN DESIRED. IT IS INTERESTING TO NOTE THAT CATEGORY 2 HURRICANE KENNETH IN THE EASTERN PACIFIC IS LOCATED IN AN AREA OF FAVORED DEVELOPMENT WHEN THE MJO IS LOCATED IN ITS CURRENT POSITION. && .AVIATION...THROUGH 06Z THURSDAY 1135 PM CST TUE NOV 22 2011 BIGGEST QUESTION CONTINUES TO BE CEILING HEIGHTS AND VISIBILITIES THROUGH 18Z WEDNESDAY. STRATUS HAD MOVED BACK OVER THE TAF SITES THIS EVENING. MODEL TRENDS IN BOTH THE 23.00Z NAM AND 23.02Z RUC SHOW LOW LEVEL SATURATION TO CONTINUE WITH A STEADY DECREASE IN CEILING HEIGHTS THROUGHOUT THE NIGHT. SOUNDINGS SUGGEST CEILINGS TO LOWER INTO THE IFR CATEGORY AT KRST...BUT REMAIN IN THE LOWER MVFR CATEGORY AT KLSE. LOWEST CEILINGS LOOK TO BE FROM 06Z-15Z WEDNESDAY. WITH THE STRATUS FILLING BACK IN...VISIBILITIES SHOULD REMAIN IN THE 2SM-4SM RANGE AT BOTH SITES. LATEST MODELS DO INDICATE THE LOW LEVEL MOISTURE TO REMAIN TRAPPED UNDER THE INVERSION ON WEDNESDAY. HOWEVER...THIS MOISTURE DOES THIN OUT AS 925MB WINDS BECOME MORE SOUTHWESTERLY. DID BACK UP THE CLEARING TREND IN THE 06Z TAFS WITH CLOUDS SCATTERING OUT AROUND 17Z AT KRST AND 20Z AT KLSE. && .ARX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... 242 AM CST WED NOV 23 2011 WI...NONE. MN...NONE. IA...NONE. && $$ SHORT TERM...BOYNE LONG TERM...BOYNE AVIATION...RABERDING
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS LA CROSSE WI
1135 PM CST TUE NOV 22 2011 .SHORT TERM...TONIGHT THROUGH FRIDAY 219 PM CST TUE NOV 22 2011 MUCH OF THE FOCUS OVER THE SHORT TERM IS ON WHEN THE CLOUDS WILL GO AWAY AND THE CONDITIONS FOR THANKSGIVING AND THE TRAVEL DAYS AROUND IT. A DEPARTING POSITIVELY TILTED MID LEVEL TROUGH EXTENDING FROM THE SOUTHWESTERN GREAT LAKES DOWN TO THE LOWER MISSISSIPPI RIVER VALLEY WILL QUICKLY MOVE TO THE EAST TONIGHT WITH BROAD RIDGING ALOFT MOVING IN BEHIND THIS FEATURE. A WEAK MID LEVEL SHORT WAVE TROUGH WILL PROPAGATE AROUND THE NORTHERN PERIPHERY OF THE RIDGE TONIGHT INTO TOMORROW MORNING BUT SHOULD NOT HAVE MUCH OF AN IMPACT OUTSIDE OF ADDING SOME HIGH LEVEL CLOUDS INTO THE MIX. DOWN AT THE SURFACE...A LOW CENTERED OVER THE OHIO RIVER VALLEY WILL TRACK NORTHEAST THROUGH THE EASTERN GREAT LAKES AS A RIDGE OF HIGH PRESSURE EXTENDS FROM SOUTHERN ONTARIO THROUGH THE UPPER MISSISSIPPI RIVER VALLEY REGION. CLOUD COVER WILL REMAIN PROBLEMATIC THROUGH TOMORROW WITH A THIN LAYER OF MOISTURE TRAPPED UNDER A SHALLOW INVERSION PER 22.12Z REGIONAL RAOBS AND RUC SOUNDINGS. THIS THIN LATER OF STRATUS EXTENDS FROM THE GREAT LAKES BACK INTO EASTERN NORTH DAKOTA AND NEBRASKA...BUT HAS DEVELOPED AN ELONGATED HOLE THAT RUNS FROM NORTHEAST WISCONSIN WEST SOUTHWEST THROUGH LA CROSSE TOWARD CENTRAL IOWA. THE 22.18Z RUC...ALONG WITH PREVIOUS RUNS...HAVE PICKED UP ON THIS DRY SLOT AND BASICALLY KEEPS IT IN PLACE THROUGH TONIGHT. THE BACK EDGE TO THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE STRATUS APPEARS TIED TO THE LOW LEVEL WARM FRONT WHICH IS EXPECTED TO COME THROUGH THE REGION TOMORROW MORNING. EVEN IF THE CLEAR SLOT REMAINS IN PLACE TONIGHT...THIS AREA MAY FOG UP QUICKLY GIVEN IDEAL RADIATIONAL COOLING CONDITIONS WITH LIGHT WINDS AND THE RIDGE OVERHEAD. SO...CONFIDENCE IS NOT HIGH ON WHEN THE CLOUDS WILL COMPLETELY CLEAR OUT...BUT THE BETTER CHANCES APPEAR TO BE AROUND LUNCHTIME TOMORROW WITH THE DRIER AND WARMER WESTERLIES COMING IN. BEYOND THIS...EVERYTHING STILL LOOKS ON TAP FOR A WARM UP GOING INTO THANKSGIVING WITH NEARLY IDEAL TRAVEL CONDITIONS OUTSIDE OF SOME GUSTY WINDS ON THURSDAY. THE SURFACE PRESSURE GRADIENT TIGHTENS UP ON THANKSGIVING AHEAD OF THE NEXT SYSTEM TRACKING THROUGH THE ROCKIES WITH 22.12Z NAM AND GFS BUFKIT SOUNDINGS SHOWING A SHALLOW MIXED LAYER UNDER THE STEEP 900MB INVERSION. MOMENTUM TRANSFER FROM THESE SOUNDINGS SHOW THAT GUSTS WILL LIKELY GO UP TO AROUND 20-25KT LATE THURSDAY MORNING INTO THE EARLY AFTERNOON. TEMPERATURES ARE EXPECTED TO CLIMB INTO THE UPPER 50S TO NEAR 60 IN SOME SPOTS WITH 22.12Z NAM AND GFS 850MB TEMPERATURE ANOMALIES BETWEEN 1 TO 2 STANDARD DEVIATIONS. WHILE RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURES ARE NOT EXPECTED...IT WILL DEFINITELY BE WELL ABOVE NORMAL. AS THE FRONT AND SURFACE LOW APPROACH ON FRIDAY...LOW LEVEL MOISTURE TRANSPORT WILL BE ON THE INCREASE THOUGH DEEP MOISTURE WILL BE SOMEWHAT LACKING INTO THE AFTERNOON. 22.12Z NAM AND GFS SOUNDINGS SHOW A DEEP DRY LAYER THAT THE MOISTURE AND FORCING WILL HAVE TO OVERCOME...WHICH MAY BE TOUGH DURING THE DAY FRIDAY. HAVE LEFT SOME SLIGHT CHANCE PROBABILITIES FOR NOW FRIDAY AFTERNOON...BUT HAVE TRIMMED THEM BACK TO MAINLY BEING IN NORTHEAST IOWA. .LONG TERM...FRIDAY NIGHT THROUGH TUESDAY 219 PM CST TUE NOV 22 2011 AFTER A QUIET WEEK INTO FRIDAY...THE WEATHER PATTERN BECOMES MORE ACTIVE THIS WEEKEND INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK. RAIN WILL BECOME MORE WIDESPREAD ALONG THE AFOREMENTIONED FRONT FRIDAY NIGHT INTO SATURDAY AS A NORTHERN STREAM TROUGH BRIEFLY PHASES WITH A SOUTHERN STREAM TROUGH. PLENTY OF QG FORCING WILL BE PROVIDED FROM THIS FEATURE WHILE LOW LEVEL MOISTURE TRANSPORT CONTINUES TO PUMP MOISTURE NORTHWARD FROM THE GULF. THE TREND HAS BEEN TO GO A BIT FURTHER TO THE SOUTHEAST WITH THE BEST CHANCES FOR GETTING THIS RAIN FRIDAY NIGHT INTO SATURDAY WITH THE MAIN BAND SETTING UP ACROSS EASTERN IOWA INTO CENTRAL WISCONSIN. AS THIS SYSTEM MOVES OFF TO THE EAST THE NORTHERN STREAM TROUGH WILL PROPAGATE OFF TO THE NORTHEAST THROUGH CANADA WHILE THE SOUTHERN STREAM TROUGH GETS CUT OFF AND LINGERS AROUND THE GREAT LAKES INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK. CONFIDENCE IS RATHER LOW IN WHERE THIS LOW WILL TRACK AS THE 22.12Z GFS IS FURTHER EAST WITH THE CORE OF THE LOW AND PULLS SOME SIGNIFICANTLY COLDER AIR DOWN INTO THE REGION ON TUESDAY WITH 850MB TEMPERATURES DROPPING TO AROUND -15C. COMPARE THAT TO THE 22.12Z ECMWF WHICH IS FURTHER WEST WITH THE LOW AND KEEPS PRECIPITATION ACROSS THE REGION LONGER INTO TUESDAY. SOME SNOW WILL BE POSSIBLE ON THE BACK SIDE OF THE SYSTEM...BUT WHEN AND WHERE IT WILL FALL IS STILL UP IN THE AIR AND THIS POINT. && .AVIATION...THROUGH 06Z THURSDAY 1135 PM CST TUE NOV 22 2011 BIGGEST QUESTION CONTINUES TO BE CEILING HEIGHTS AND VISIBILITIES THROUGH 18Z WEDNESDAY. STRATUS HAD MOVED BACK OVER THE TAF SITES THIS EVENING. MODEL TRENDS IN BOTH THE 23.00Z NAM AND 23.02Z RUC SHOW LOW LEVEL SATURATION TO CONTINUE WITH A STEADY DECREASE IN CEILING HEIGHTS THROUGHOUT THE NIGHT. SOUNDINGS SUGGEST CEILINGS TO LOWER INTO THE IFR CATEGORY AT KRST...BUT REMAIN IN THE LOWER MVFR CATEGORY AT KLSE. LOWEST CEILINGS LOOK TO BE FROM 06Z-15Z WEDNESDAY. WITH THE STRATUS FILLING BACK IN...VISIBILITIES SHOULD REMAIN IN THE 2SM-4SM RANGE AT BOTH SITES. LATEST MODELS DO INDICATE THE LOW LEVEL MOISTURE TO REMAIN TRAPPED UNDER THE INVERSION ON WEDNESDAY. HOWEVER...THIS MOISTURE DOES THIN OUT AS 925MB WINDS BECOME MORE SOUTHWESTERLY. DID BACK UP THE CLEARING TREND IN THE 06Z TAFS WITH CLOUDS SCATTERING OUT AROUND 17Z AT KRST AND 20Z AT KLSE. && .ARX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... 219 PM CST TUE NOV 22 2011 WI...NONE. MN...NONE. IA...NONE. && $$ SHORT TERM...HALBACH LONG TERM...HALBACH AVIATION...RABERDING
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS ALBANY NY
133 AM EST FRI NOV 25 2011 .SYNOPSIS... THE WEATHER PATTERN WILL BE TRANQUIL FOR THIS HOLIDAY WEEKEND WITH HIGH PRESSURE REMAINING IN CONTROL ALONG THE EASTERN SEABOARD. TEMPERATURES WILL SLOWLY MODERATE TO ABOVE NORMAL AS SOUTHERLY WINDS INCREASE. THE NEXT CHANCE FOR SHOWERS ARRIVES LATE SUNDAY INTO MONDAY. && .NEAR TERM /THROUGH TODAY/... AS OF 1 AM...ONLY SOME MINOR ADJUSTMENTS BASED ON OBSERVATIONAL DATA...FORECAST ON TRACK. AS OF 1000 PM EST...THE IR SATELLITE PICTURE SHOWS SOME THIN CIRRUS MOVING ACROSS ERN NY. NORTH AND WEST OF THE CAPITAL REGION... SOME STRATUS IS STILL LINGERING OVER THE ADIRONDACKS. THE MOSTLY CLEAR SKIES AND LIGHT TO CALM WINDS HAVE ALLOWED SOME PATCHY RADIATIONAL FOG FORMATION OVER MUCH OF THE FCST AREA. THE SFC SOILS ARE STILL A BIT WET FROM THE HVY RAINFALL ON TUESDAY NIGHT-WED. THE FOG IS MOST ROBUST OVER THE LAKE GEORGE REGION...AND EAST OF THE SRN GREEN MTNS. WE HAVE ADDED PATCHY FOG OVERNIGHT FOR LOCATIONS LESS THAN 1000 FEET ACROSS ERN NY AND WRN NEW ENGLAND. TEMPS VARY WIDELY ACROSS THE REGION WITH MINS REACHED OR EXCEEDED OVER THE LAKE GEORGE REGION...AND THE BERKSHIRES. WE HAVE BROUGHT MINS DOWN A FEW DEGREES WHERE IT RADIATED QUICKLY OVER THE LAKE GEORGE REGION...NRN AND CNTRL TACONICS...AND THE BERKSHIRES. EXPECT LOWS TO RANGE FROM THE M20S TO M30S ACROSS THE REGION. A WEAK THERMAL TROUGH WILL MOVE THROUGH THE REGION OVERNIGHT...AND WE ARE SEEING WINDS INCREASE FROM THE S/SW OVER W-CNTRL NY. TEMPS MAY ACTUALLY CREEP UP A FEW DEGREES TOWARD SUNRISE. PREVIOUS NEAR TERMS... AS OF 630 PM EST...HAPPY THANKSGIVING TO ALL ! HIGH PRESSURE AT THE SFC CONTINUES TO RIDGE IN FROM THE TN VALLEY AND THE MID ATLANTIC REGION. A WEAK IMPULSE IN THE H500 W/NW FLOW ALOFT CONTINUES TO MOVE ACROSS THE ERN GREAT LAKES REGION...AND UPSTATE NY. THE STRATUS IS HANGING TOUGH ON THE 11-3.9 MICRON SATELLITE LOOP NORTH AND WEST OF THE CAPITAL REGION. WE INCREASED THE CLOUD COVER THROUGH MIDNIGHT OVER THE SRN AND WRN DACKS. THE NAM12 MODEL SOUNDINGS...AND RH PROFILES INDICATE THIS STRATUS WILL HANG ON. THE OTHER ISSUE TO DEAL WITH IS THE SKIES CLEARING...AND THE WINDS GOING LIGHT TO CALM FROM THE HUDSON RIVER VALLEY EASTWARD. KGFL HAS DROPPED TO ABOUT 30F WITH SOME PATCHY FOG FORMING. WE ADDED SOME PATCHY FOG TO THE KGFL GENERAL AREA...AND TO THE CT RIVER VALLEY EAST OF THE SRN GREEN MTNS. HOURLY TRENDS WERE REDONE BASED ON OBSERVATIONS FOR T/TD/RH/APPARENT TEMPS. ASIDE FOR A FEW CIRRUS FROM THE CAPITAL REGION SOUTH AND EAST OVERNIGHT...EXPECT TEMPS TO COOL INTO THE U20S TO M30S. PREVIOUS NEAR TERM... STRATUS DECK WAS ALONG THE I90 CORRIDOR AS OF 19Z. THIS CLOUD DECK CONTINUES TO SLOWLY ERODE AND MIGRATE NORTHWARD THIS AFTERNOON. NCEP MODEL SUITE AND HOURLY RUC13 LOW LEVEL RH FIELDS SUGGEST THIS STRATUS DECK SHOULD CONTINUE TO LIFT NORTHWARD AND ERODE FURTHER. MEANWHILE...WARM ADVECTION ALOFT AND ITS ASSOCIATED HIGH AND SOME MID LEVEL CLOUDS ARE QUICKLY MOVING ACROSS NEW ENGLAND AND PORTIONS OF UPSTATE NEW YORK. THIS TOO IS EXPECTED TO SLIDE OFFSHORE TONIGHT LEAVING BEHIND A PTCLOUDY-MOCLEAR SKIES. BASED ON CURRENT DEWPOINTS...MOS TEMPERATURES LOOK A BIT COOL AND HAVE FOLLOWED WARMER OVERNIGHT TRENDS WITHIN THE LAV/LAMP GUIDANCE. LARGE AREA OF HIGH PRESSURE...CENTERED OVER THE SOUTHEAST CONUS...WILL BE THE DOMINANT PLAYER FOR THIS NEAR TERM AND INTO THE SHORT TERM. && .SHORT TERM /TONIGHT THROUGH SATURDAY NIGHT/... THIS LARGE AREA OF HIGH PRESSURE WILL KEEP THE WEATHER QUIET EAST OF THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER THROUGH THIS SHORT TERM PERIOD. IN FACT...RATHER PRONOUNCED WEST-SOUTHWEST FLOW ALONG WITH MILD MID LEVEL TEMPS WILL RESULT IN TEMPERATURES CLIMBING TOWARD OR EXCEEDING 10 DEGREES ABOVE CLIMATOLOGY /IN ADDITION...DOWNSLOPING MAY ENHANCE THESE TEMPS INTO THE VALLEY LOCATIONS/. THE ONLY COMPLICATION COULD BE SOME OVERNIGHT SHALLOW BR/FG AND A POTENTIAL FOR SOME LOW LEVEL STRATUS DEVELOPMENT. IN ADDITION...WITH THE ONGOING WARM ADVECTION...SOME HIGH AND MID LEVEL CLOUD COVER MAY MOVE ACROSS THE SKY THOUGH THIS PERIOD. EITHER WAY...THE WEATHER SHOULD HAVE MINIMAL IMPACT TO HOLIDAY WEEKEND TRAVELS. && .LONG TERM /SUNDAY THROUGH THURSDAY/... ACTIVE WEATHER PATTERN EXPECTED THROUGH THE LONG TERM...BUT MODEL GUIDANCE HAS DIFFERING SOLUTIONS...SO CONFIDENCE IS LOW. WENT WITH HPC GUIDANCE. SFC LOW APPROACHING FROM THE GREAT LAKES REGION SUNDAY MORNING. 12Z GFS...ECMWF AND GFSENSEMBLE MEMBERS HAVE NOT AGREED UPON A TRACK...SPEED...OR QPF AMOUNTS. ECMWF HAS THE MORE PROGRESSIVE AND NORTHERLY TRACK OF SFC LOW...WITH THE COLD FRONT AND PRECIP ASSOCIATED WITH THE LOW MOVING THROUGH THE FA LATE SUNDAY THROUGH LATE MONDAY...WITH QPF AMOUNTS AROUND HALF AN INCH OR LESS. ASSOCIATED UPPER LEVEL POSITIVELY TILTED TROUGH REMAINS OPEN IN ECMWF. MEANWHILE...GFS DEVELOPS A CLOSE LOW WITHIN THE UPPER LEVEL TROUGH. AS THIS TROUGH APPEARS TO HAVE A NEUTRAL TILT...GFS KEEPS IT SLOW MOVING OVER THE GREAT LAKES REGION...WHERE THE UPPER LEVEL LOW PRESSURE CENTER REFORMS FURTHER NORTH SUNDAY NIGHT. THE TROUGH BECOMES NEGATIVELY TILTED BEFORE A PIECE OF SOUTHERLY ENERGY BREAKS OFF...TRAVELING TOWARDS THE OBX AHEAD OF THE MAIN TROUGH...BY TUESDAY NIGHT. QPF AMOUNTS UP TO 2 INCHES WITH THE GFS. CHANCE FOR PRECIP POSSIBLE THROUGH TUESDAY NIGHT/WEDNESDAY WITH GFS ENSEMBLE MEMBERS SLOWLY MOVE SFC LOW NORTHWARD TOWARDS JAMES BAY. ALL GUIDANCE SHOW HIGH PRESSURE BUILDING IN JUST SOUTH OF THE REGION...BUT NO AGREEMENT ON WHEN OR FOR HOW LONG. HPC HAS HIGH PRESSURE WEDNESDAY INTO THURSDAY. TEMPS ABOUT 10 DEGREES ABOVE NORMAL TO START THE PERIOD...TRENDING COOLER TO ABOUT NORMAL BY THE END OF THE PERIOD. && .AVIATION /07Z FRIDAY THROUGH TUESDAY/... IFR/LIFR CONDITIONS OCCURRING AT KGFL...KAQW...KDDH...KPOU... AND KRME AT PRESENT...MVFR AT KPSF...AND VFR AT KALB. LOW STRATUS DECK CONTINUES ACROSS MUCH OF THE ADIRONDACK REGION INCLUDING SOME OF THE UPPER MOHAWK VALLEY WHILE FARTHER SOUTH SKIES WERE MOSTLY CLEAR WITH SOME SCTD CIRRIFORM CLOUDS. RADIATIONAL COOLING AND CALM WINDS WAS CAUSING FOG TO FORM IN MANY LOCATIONS ACROSS THE REGION. LOOKS LIKE KGFL WILL BE SOCKED IN FOR THE REST OF THE PREDAWN PERIOD...DEAD CALM WITH IFR/LIFR CIG AND VSBY FOR THE LAST TWO HOURS. KALB...GOOD BET TO DETERIORATE TO MVFR BY 06Z...AND AT THIS POINT CANNOT RULE OUT IFR DUE TO FOG OR STRATUS. WINDS DEAD CALM...AND TEMP/DEWPT SPREAD ONLY 1 TO 2 DEGREES...THUS WILL TEMPO TO IFR BETWEEN 07Z AND 11Z. KPOU...SKY CURRENTLY CLEAR ASIDE FROM CIRRIFORM CLOUDS...AGAIN DEAD CALM WINDS AND A 2 DEGREE TEMP/DEWPT SPREAD...SO LOOKING AT MVFR A GOOD BET AND AGAIN A POSSIBILITY OF IFR DURING THE PREDAWN PERIOD. THE GOOD NEWS...SKIES SHOULD BE MOSTLY CLEAR ABOVE THE FOG AND LOW STRATUS ASIDE FROM SOME STRANDS OF CIRRUS BY SUNRISE. THUS THE FOG AND LOW STRATUS SHOULD MIX OUT BY 13Z-14Z. A FINE DAY FOR VFR FLIGHT FOLLOWS WITH STRANDS OF CIRRUS STREAMING IN FROM A FRONTAL SYSTEM IN THE MISSISSIPPI VALLEY AROUND THE NORTH SIDE OF A HIGH PRESSURE SYSTEM CENTERED IN THE DEEP SOUTH. WINDS WILL BE CALM...OR NEARLY SO...DURING THE PREDAWN PERIOD. THEY WILL BECOME SOUTHERLY 3 TO 6 KNOTS SHORTLY AFTER SUNRISE AND INCREASE TO AROUND 8 TO 12 KNOTS DURING THE MIDDAY PERIOD. WINDS WILL THEN SLACKEN THIS EVENING TO LESS THAN 5 KNOTS. OUTLOOK... TONIGHT...MOSTLY VFR...SOME MVFR DUE TO LIGHT FOG POSSIBLE LATE. SAT-SAT NIGHT...VFR. NO SIG WX. SUN...MAINLY VFR. INCREASING CLDS. CHC PM -SHRAS. SUN NIGHT-TUE...MVFR/IFR WITH CHC -SHRAS. && .HYDROLOGY... DRY WEATHER IS EXPECTED THROUGH MOST OF THE LONG HOLIDAY WEEKEND AS HIGH PRESSURE DOMINATES. OUR NEXT CHANCES FOR WET WEATHER WILL RETURN LATE IN THE WEEKEND INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK AS A LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM APPROACHES AND MOVES ACROSS THE REGION. THERE IS A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY DUE TO DIFFERENCES IN THE MODELS...BUT THERE IS A POTENTIAL FOR SIGNIFICANT RAINFALL STARTING SUNDAY NIGHT...WITH ONE TO TWO INCH AMOUNTS NOT OUT OF THE QUESTION. THE LATEST MMEFS INDICATES SIGNIFICANT WITHIN-BANK RISES ON THE RIVERS BUT STOPPING SHORT OF REACHING FLOOD. FOR DETAILS ON SPECIFIC AREA RIVERS AND LAKES...INCLUDING OBSERVED AND FORECAST RIVER STAGES AND LAKE ELEVATIONS...PLEASE VISIT THE ADVANCED HYDROLOGIC PREDICTION SERVICE /AHPS/ GRAPHS ON OUR WEBSITE. && .CLIMATE... 2011 HAS MOVED UP INTO FIFTH PLACE FOR WETTEST YEARS ON RECORD FOR ALBANY NEW YORK. WETTEST YEARS - ALBANY NY - SINCE 1820 1) 55.78 INCHES 1871 2) 55.81 INCHES 1870 3) 51.83 INCHES 1850 4) 49.80 INCHES 1827 5) 49.75 INCHES THROUGH NOVEMBER 23ND 6) 49.37 INCHES 1878 7) 48.35 INCHES 1843 8) 48.22 INCHES 1848 9) 47.79 INCHES 2008 10) 47.72 INCHES 2005 && .ALY WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... CT...NONE. NY...NONE. MA...NONE. VT...NONE. && $$ SYNOPSIS...BGM/WASULA NEAR TERM...IAA/BGM/WASULA SHORT TERM...BGM LONG TERM...KGM AVIATION...RCK HYDROLOGY...RCK/BGM CLIMATE...IAA
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS ALBANY NY
1245 AM EST FRI NOV 25 2011 .SYNOPSIS... THE WEATHER PATTERN WILL BE TRANQUIL FOR THIS HOLIDAY WEEKEND WITH HIGH PRESSURE REMAINING IN CONTROL ALONG THE EASTERN SEABOARD. TEMPERATURES WILL SLOWLY MODERATE TO ABOVE NORMAL AS SOUTHERLY WINDS INCREASE. THE NEXT CHANCE FOR SHOWERS ARRIVES LATE SUNDAY INTO MONDAY. && .NEAR TERM /THROUGH TODAY/... AS OF 1000 PM EST...THE IR SATELLITE PICTURE SHOWS SOME THIN CIRRUS MOVING ACROSS ERN NY. NORTH AND WEST OF THE CAPITAL REGION... SOME STRATUS IS STILL LINGERING OVER THE ADIRONDACKS. THE MOSTLY CLEAR SKIES AND LIGHT TO CALM WINDS HAVE ALLOWED SOME PATCHY RADIATIONAL FOG FORMATION OVER MUCH OF THE FCST AREA. THE SFC SOILS ARE STILL A BIT WET FROM THE HVY RAINFALL ON TUESDAY NIGHT-WED. THE FOG IS MOST ROBUST OVER THE LAKE GEORGE REGION...AND EAST OF THE SRN GREEN MTNS. WE HAVE ADDED PATCHY FOG OVERNIGHT FOR LOCATIONS LESS THAN 1000 FEET ACROSS ERN NY AND WRN NEW ENGLAND. TEMPS VARY WIDELY ACROSS THE REGION WITH MINS REACHED OR EXCEEDED OVER THE LAKE GEORGE REGION...AND THE BERKSHIRES. WE HAVE BROUGHT MINS DOWN A FEW DEGREES WHERE IT RADIATED QUICKLY OVER THE LAKE GEORGE REGION...NRN AND CNTRL TACONICS...AND THE BERKSHIRES. EXPECT LOWS TO RANGE FROM THE M20S TO M30S ACROSS THE REGION. A WEAK THERMAL TROUGH WILL MOVE THROUGH THE REGION OVERNIGHT...AND WE ARE SEEING WINDS INCREASE FROM THE S/SW OVER W-CNTRL NY. TEMPS MAY ACTUALLY CREEP UP A FEW DEGREES TOWARD SUNRISE. PREVIOUS NEAR TERMS... AS OF 630 PM EST...HAPPY THANKSGIVING TO ALL ! HIGH PRESSURE AT THE SFC CONTINUES TO RIDGE IN FROM THE TN VALLEY AND THE MID ATLANTIC REGION. A WEAK IMPULSE IN THE H500 W/NW FLOW ALOFT CONTINUES TO MOVE ACROSS THE ERN GREAT LAKES REGION...AND UPSTATE NY. THE STRATUS IS HANGING TOUGH ON THE 11-3.9 MICRON SATELLITE LOOP NORTH AND WEST OF THE CAPITAL REGION. WE INCREASED THE CLOUD COVER THROUGH MIDNIGHT OVER THE SRN AND WRN DACKS. THE NAM12 MODEL SOUNDINGS...AND RH PROFILES INDICATE THIS STRATUS WILL HANG ON. THE OTHER ISSUE TO DEAL WITH IS THE SKIES CLEARING...AND THE WINDS GOING LIGHT TO CALM FROM THE HUDSON RIVER VALLEY EASTWARD. KGFL HAS DROPPED TO ABOUT 30F WITH SOME PATCHY FOG FORMING. WE ADDED SOME PATCHY FOG TO THE KGFL GENERAL AREA...AND TO THE CT RIVER VALLEY EAST OF THE SRN GREEN MTNS. HOURLY TRENDS WERE REDONE BASED ON OBSERVATIONS FOR T/TD/RH/APPARENT TEMPS. ASIDE FOR A FEW CIRRUS FROM THE CAPITAL REGION SOUTH AND EAST OVERNIGHT...EXPECT TEMPS TO COOL INTO THE U20S TO M30S. PREVIOUS NEAR TERM... STRATUS DECK WAS ALONG THE I90 CORRIDOR AS OF 19Z. THIS CLOUD DECK CONTINUES TO SLOWLY ERODE AND MIGRATE NORTHWARD THIS AFTERNOON. NCEP MODEL SUITE AND HOURLY RUC13 LOW LEVEL RH FIELDS SUGGEST THIS STRATUS DECK SHOULD CONTINUE TO LIFT NORTHWARD AND ERODE FURTHER. MEANWHILE...WARM ADVECTION ALOFT AND ITS ASSOCIATED HIGH AND SOME MID LEVEL CLOUDS ARE QUICKLY MOVING ACROSS NEW ENGLAND AND PORTIONS OF UPSTATE NEW YORK. THIS TOO IS EXPECTED TO SLIDE OFFSHORE TONIGHT LEAVING BEHIND A PTCLOUDY-MOCLEAR SKIES. BASED ON CURRENT DEWPOINTS...MOS TEMPERATURES LOOK A BIT COOL AND HAVE FOLLOWED WARMER OVERNIGHT TRENDS WITHIN THE LAV/LAMP GUIDANCE. LARGE AREA OF HIGH PRESSURE...CENTERED OVER THE SOUTHEAST CONUS...WILL BE THE DOMINANT PLAYER FOR THIS NEAR TERM AND INTO THE SHORT TERM. && .SHORT TERM /TONIGHT THROUGH SATURDAY NIGHT/... THIS LARGE AREA OF HIGH PRESSURE WILL KEEP THE WEATHER QUIET EAST OF THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER THROUGH THIS SHORT TERM PERIOD. IN FACT...RATHER PRONOUNCED WEST-SOUTHWEST FLOW ALONG WITH MILD MID LEVEL TEMPS WILL RESULT IN TEMPERATURES CLIMBING TOWARD OR EXCEEDING 10 DEGREES ABOVE CLIMATOLOGY /IN ADDITION...DOWNSLOPING MAY ENHANCE THESE TEMPS INTO THE VALLEY LOCATIONS/. THE ONLY COMPLICATION COULD BE SOME OVERNIGHT SHALLOW BR/FG AND A POTENTIAL FOR SOME LOW LEVEL STRATUS DEVELOPMENT. IN ADDITION...WITH THE ONGOING WARM ADVECTION...SOME HIGH AND MID LEVEL CLOUD COVER MAY MOVE ACROSS THE SKY THOUGH THIS PERIOD. EITHER WAY...THE WEATHER SHOULD HAVE MINIMAL IMPACT TO HOLIDAY WEEKEND TRAVELS. && .LONG TERM /SUNDAY THROUGH THURSDAY/... ACTIVE WEATHER PATTERN EXPECTED THROUGH THE LONG TERM...BUT MODEL GUIDANCE HAS DIFFERING SOLUTIONS...SO CONFIDENCE IS LOW. WENT WITH HPC GUIDANCE. SFC LOW APPROACHING FROM THE GREAT LAKES REGION SUNDAY MORNING. 12Z GFS...ECMWF AND GFSENSEMBLE MEMBERS HAVE NOT AGREED UPON A TRACK...SPEED...OR QPF AMOUNTS. ECMWF HAS THE MORE PROGRESSIVE AND NORTHERLY TRACK OF SFC LOW...WITH THE COLD FRONT AND PRECIP ASSOCIATED WITH THE LOW MOVING THROUGH THE FA LATE SUNDAY THROUGH LATE MONDAY...WITH QPF AMOUNTS AROUND HALF AN INCH OR LESS. ASSOCIATED UPPER LEVEL POSITIVELY TILTED TROUGH REMAINS OPEN IN ECMWF. MEANWHILE...GFS DEVELOPS A CLOSE LOW WITHIN THE UPPER LEVEL TROUGH. AS THIS TROUGH APPEARS TO HAVE A NEUTRAL TILT...GFS KEEPS IT SLOW MOVING OVER THE GREAT LAKES REGION...WHERE THE UPPER LEVEL LOW PRESSURE CENTER REFORMS FURTHER NORTH SUNDAY NIGHT. THE TROUGH BECOMES NEGATIVELY TILTED BEFORE A PIECE OF SOUTHERLY ENERGY BREAKS OFF...TRAVELING TOWARDS THE OBX AHEAD OF THE MAIN TROUGH...BY TUESDAY NIGHT. QPF AMOUNTS UP TO 2 INCHES WITH THE GFS. CHANCE FOR PRECIP POSSIBLE THROUGH TUESDAY NIGHT/WEDNESDAY WITH GFS ENSEMBLE MEMBERS SLOWLY MOVE SFC LOW NORTHWARD TOWARDS JAMES BAY. ALL GUIDANCE SHOW HIGH PRESSURE BUILDING IN JUST SOUTH OF THE REGION...BUT NO AGREEMENT ON WHEN OR FOR HOW LONG. HPC HAS HIGH PRESSURE WEDNESDAY INTO THURSDAY. TEMPS ABOUT 10 DEGREES ABOVE NORMAL TO START THE PERIOD...TRENDING COOLER TO ABOUT NORMAL BY THE END OF THE PERIOD. && .AVIATION /06Z FRIDAY THROUGH TUESDAY/... IFR/LIFR CONDITIONS OCCURRING AT KGFL...KAQW...KDDH...KPOU... AND KRME AT PRESENT...MVFR AT KPSF...AND VFR AT KALB. LOW STRATUS DECK CONTINUES ACROSS MUCH OF THE ADIRONDACK REGION INCLUDING SOME OF THE UPPER MOHAWK VALLEY WHILE FARTHER SOUTH SKIES WERE MOSTLY CLEAR WITH SOME SCTD CIRRIFORM CLOUDS. RADIATIONAL COOLING AND CALM WINDS WAS CAUSING FOG TO FORM IN MANY LOCATIONS ACROSS THE REGION. LOOKS LIKE KGFL WILL BE SOCKED IN FOR THE REST OF THE PREDAWN PERIOD...DEAD CALM WITH IFR/LIFR CIG AND VISBY FOR THE LAST TWO HOURS. KALB...GOOD BET TO DETERIORATE TO MVFR BY 06Z...AND AT THIS POINT CANNOT RULE OUT IFR DUE TO FOG OR STRATUS. WINDS DEAD CALM...AND TEMP/DEWPT SPREAD ONLY 1 TO 2 DEGREES...THUS WILL TEMPO TO IFR BETWEEN 07Z AND 11Z. KPOU...SKY CURRENTLY CLEAR ASIDE FROM CIRRIFORM CLOUDS...AGAIN DEAD CALM WINDS AND A 2 DEGREE TEMP/DEWPT SPREAD...SO LOOKING AT MVFR A GOOD BET AND AGAIN A POSSIBILITY OF IFR DURING THE PREDAWN PERIOD. THE GOOD NEWS...SKIES SHOULD BE MOSTLY CLEAR ABOVE THE FOG AND LOW STRATUS ASIDE FROM SOME STRANDS OF CIRRUS BY SUNRISE. THUS THE FOG AND LOW STRATUS SHOULD MIX OUT BY 13Z-14Z. A FINE DAY FOR VFR FLIGHT FOLLOWS WITH STRANDS OF CIRRUS STREAMING IN FROM A FRONTAL SYSTEM IN THE MISSISSIPPI VALLEY AROUND THE NORTH SIDE OF A HIGH PRESSURE SYSTEM CENTERED IN THE DEEP SOUTH. WINDS WILL BE CALM...OR NEARLY SO...DURING THE PREDAWN PERIOD. THEY WILL BECOME SOUTHERLY 3 TO 6 KNOTS SHORTLY AFTER SUNRISE AND INCREASE TO AROUND 8 TO 12 KNOTS DURING THE MIDDAY PERIOD. WINDS WILL THEN SLACKEN THIS EVENING TO LESS THAN 5 KNOTS. OUTLOOK... TONIGHT...MOSTLY VFR...SOME MVFR DUE TO LIGHT FOG POSSIBLE LATE. SAT-SAT NIGHT...VFR. NO SIG WX. SUN...MAINLY VFR. INCREASING CLDS. CHC PM -SHRAS. SUN NIGHT-TUE...MVFR/IFR WITH CHC -SHRAS. && .HYDROLOGY... DRY WEATHER IS EXPECTED THROUGH MOST OF THE LONG HOLIDAY WEEKEND AS HIGH PRESSURE DOMINATES. OUR NEXT CHANCES FOR WET WEATHER WILL RETURN LATE IN THE WEEKEND INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK AS A LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM APPROACHES AND MOVES ACROSS THE REGION. THERE IS A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY DUE TO DIFFERENCES IN THE MODELS...BUT THERE IS A POTENTIAL FOR SIGNIFICANT RAINFALL STARTING SUNDAY NIGHT...WITH ONE TO TWO INCH AMOUNTS NOT OUT OF THE QUESTION. THE LATEST MMEFS INDICATES SIGNIFICANT WITHIN-BANK RISES ON THE RIVERS BUT STOPPING SHORT OF REACHING FLOOD. FOR DETAILS ON SPECIFIC AREA RIVERS AND LAKES...INCLUDING OBSERVED AND FORECAST RIVER STAGES AND LAKE ELEVATIONS...PLEASE VISIT THE ADVANCED HYDROLOGIC PREDICTION SERVICE /AHPS/ GRAPHS ON OUR WEBSITE. && .CLIMATE... 2011 HAS MOVED UP INTO FIFTH PLACE FOR WETTEST YEARS ON RECORD FOR ALBANY NEW YORK. WETTEST YEARS - ALBANY NY - SINCE 1820 1) 55.78 INCHES 1871 2) 55.81 INCHES 1870 3) 51.83 INCHES 1850 4) 49.80 INCHES 1827 5) 49.75 INCHES THROUGH NOVEMBER 23ND 6) 49.37 INCHES 1878 7) 48.35 INCHES 1843 8) 48.22 INCHES 1848 9) 47.79 INCHES 2008 10) 47.72 INCHES 2005 && .ALY WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... CT...NONE. NY...NONE. MA...NONE. VT...NONE. && $$ SYNOPSIS...BGM/WASULA NEAR TERM...BGM/WASULA SHORT TERM...BGM LONG TERM...KGM AVIATION...RCK HYDROLOGY...RCK/BGM CLIMATE...IAA
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS LINCOLN IL
1110 PM CST THU NOV 24 2011 .DISCUSSION... ISSUED 852 PM CST THU NOV 24 2011 LOW STRATUS IS COMING BACK NORTH...AIDED BY STRONG SOUTHERLY WINDS. THIS AREA OF CLOUDS IS NOT VERY WIDE SO SOME AREAS IN THE SOUTHEAST COULD SEE SOME CLEARING OVERNIGHT...WHILE OTHER AREAS BECOME CLOUDY AGAIN. CURRENT FORECAST SEEMS TO HAVE A GOOD HANDLE ON THE GOING TRENDS SO NO UPDATE REQUIRED AT THIS TIME. HOWEVER...HAVE BEEN MAKING ADJUSTMENTS TO THE GRIDS TO BETTER REFLECT THE CLOUD COVER TRENDS. AUTEN && .AVIATION... ISSUED 1110 PM CST THU NOV 24 2011 IFR CIGS/VIS ARE ONCE AGAIN ADVECTING NORTHWARD OVER THE TAF SITES. DEC/CMI ALREADY DOWN AND EXPECT SPI AND BMI TO BE IFR AROUND ISSUANCE TIME. UNSURE IF PIA WILL SEE IT GIVEN THE FACT THAT THE SATELLITE LOOP SEEMS TO INDICATE A SLOWING TREND IN THE MOVEMENT NORTH. SATELLITE ALSO SHOWS SOME HOLES IN THE STRATUS. ONCE STRATUS DISSIPATES TOMORROW MORNING VFR CONDITIONS WILL PREVAIL FOR REMAINDER OF TAF PERIOD. SCATTERED CIRRUS BECOMING BROKEN AROUND 18Z IS ALL THAT IS EXPECTED. MODELS AND BUFKIT SOUNDING CONTINUE TO INDICATE LOW LEVEL WIND SHEAR AROUND 1.5KFT TONIGHT SO WILL KEEP MENTION. ONCE STRATUS CLEARS...EXPECTING SOUTHERLY WINDS TO INCREASE AND BE GUSTY DURING THE AFTERNOON...THEN DECREASING AROUND SUNSET. SOUTHERLY WINDS WILL PREVAIL THROUGH THE PERIOD. AUTEN && .PREV DISCUSSION... ISSUED 300 PM CST THU NOV 24 2011 INITIAL CONCERN WILL BE POSSIBLE REDEVELOPMENT OF LOW STRATUS CLOUDS TONIGHT INTO FRIDAY MORNING. THEN ATTENTION TURNS TO THE ONSET OF RAIN LATE FRIDAY NIGHT THROUGH SATURDAY AND THE ARRIVAL OF COLDER AIR FOR MUCH OF THE EXTENDED FORECAST. SHORT TERM...TONIGHT THROUGH SATURDAY NIGHT. CHALLENGING FORECAST FOR TONIGHT IN TERMS OF CLOUDS AND RESULTANT LOW TEMPS. THE ONLY MODELS THAT SEEM TO HAVE A DECENT HANDLE ON THE LOW LEVEL MOISTURE ARE THE HRRR AND SPC 4KM WRF. BOTH OF THEM ARE INDICATING CLOUD REDEVELOPMENT ACROSS CENTRAL IL AND EVEN SURROUNDING PORTIONS OF IL. THE NAM AND GFS SOUNDINGS SHOW A LOW LEVEL SATURATION AS WELL...BUT SHALLOW. FORECAST WIND TRAJECTORY FLOWS INDICATE WE SHOULD SEE THE SW RETURN FLOW ORIGINATING WHERE STRATUS CLOUDS ARE LINGERING THIS AFTERNOON IN MO/AR. A TIGHTER PRESSURE GRADIENT WOULD TYPICALLY KEEP WINDS UP AT NIGHT...BUT THE LOW LEVEL INVERSION LOOKS TO BE PLENTY STRONG ENOUGH TO PREVENT MIXING OVERNIGHT. WILL FORECAST CLOUDS TO REFORM...AND KEEP LOW TEMPS A COUPLE DEGREES WARMER THAN GUIDANCE. CLEARING SHOULD COME QUICKER ON FRIDAY AS MORE PROMINENT MIXING WILL OCCUR UNDER A MUCH STRONGER SFC PRESSURE GRADIENT. PLENTY OF DRY AIR ALOFT WILL AID IN CLOUD EROSION. WINDY CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED WITH SSW GUSTS OVER 30 MPH. TEMPS WILL RESPOND IN KIND AS WAA FLOWS PUSH 850 MB TEMPS UP NEAR 12C. THAT COUPLED WITH ADDITIONAL SUNSHINE SHOULD PUT HIGHS INTO THE L-M 60S. BROAD SCALE ISENTROPIC LIFT AHEAD OF THE NEXT COLD FRONT WILL HELP PRIME THE ATMOSPHERE FOR RAIN TO DEVELOP W OF THE IL RIVER AFTER MIDNIGHT FRIDAY NIGHT. HOWEVER...BASED ON FORECAST CONDENSATION PRESSURE DEFICITS /CPD/...IT STILL APPEARS WE WILL HAVE A 5-7 HOUR WINDOW OF STEADY RAINS AS THE FRONT PROGRESSES EASTWARD DURING THE DAY ON SATURDAY. WE WILL CONTINUE WITH CATEGORICAL POPS WEST IN THE MORNING AND EAST IN THE AFTERNOON. SOME SHOWERS MAY LINGER IN THE EVENING ACROSS THE EAST...SO WILL CONTINUE WITH CHANCE POPS AS SUBSIDENT FLOWS BEGIN TO SHUT DOWN MEASURABLE PRECIP. COLD AIR WILL RETURN ON BRISK NW WINDS SAT NIGHT. MOST OF THE PRECIP SHOULD COME TO AN END BEFORE THE AIR COLUMN GETS COLD ENOUGH FOR SNOW. HOWEVER...WE CAN NOT RULE OUT SOME FLURRIES POSSIBLE AFTER MIDNIGHT SAT NIGHT. BY 12Z SUNDAY...ANOTHER WAVE OF ISENTROPIC LIFT AND LOW CPD/S IS INDICATED AS THE UPPER TROUGH MOVES ACROSS IL. ENOUGH RESIDUAL MOISTURE MAY BE PRESENT FOR A FEW LIGHT RAIN/SNOW SHOWERS AFTER MIDNIGHT...AND FLURRIES NORTH/SPRINKLES SOUTH ON SUNDAY. BY SUNDAY NIGHT...ALL PRECIP SHOULD COME TO AN END FROM THIS SYSTEM...AS THE UPPER TROUGH AXIS FINALLY SLIDES EAST. LONG TERM...MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY. THE EXTENDED FORECAST SHOWS PERSISTENT COLD CONDITIONS AS A CUT OFF LOW POSSIBLY DEVELOPS ACROSS THE SOUTHERN OHIO RIVER VALLEY. THERE HAS BEEN A WIDE VARIETY OF SOLUTIONS FROM THE MODELS ON THIS CUT OFF FEATURE...WITH THE ECMWF AND THE CANADIAN THE MAIN ONES SHOWING THIS FEATURE. THE ECMWF BEING A BIT MORE PRONOUNCED AND SLOWER THAN THE CANADIAN. THE GFS KEEPS A PROGRESSIVE PATTERN WITH NORTHWEST FLOW AND A DRY FRONTAL PASSAGE ON MONDAY NIGHT/TUESDAY ACROSS IL. DESPITE THE DIFFERING SOLUTIONS...THE OVERALL SENSIBLE WEATHER LOOKS TO BE ON THE CHILLY SIDE WITH PERIODICALLY BREEZY CONDITIONS. SHIMON && .ILX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... NONE. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS DES MOINES IA
315 AM CST FRI NOV 25 2011 ...UPDATED FOR 06Z AVIATION DISCUSSION... .SHORT TERM /TODAY/... STRATUS FIELD IS LIFTING THROUGH EASTERN KS AS LOW LEVEL MOISTURE CONTINUES TO ADVECT NORTHWARD TOWARD IOWA. THE MOISTURE IS CENTERED NEAR 950 MB. THE LATEST RUC 950 MB CONDENSATION PRESSURE DEFICITS ARE HANDLING THE STRATUS PLACEMENT WELL AND SUGGESTS IT WILL SPREAD NORTHEAST OVER MUCH OF CNTRL IA THIS MORNING. CIRRUS WILL ALSO BE THICKENING OVER THE STATE TODAY AND IN COMBINATION WITH THE STRATUS...WILL RESULT IN MOSTLY CLOUDY CONDITIONS. THIS WILL HAVE AN IMPACT ON HIGH TEMPERATURES. READINGS AT 3 AM REMAIN QUITE MILD IN THE MID TO UPPER 40S. ANY SUNSHINE THIS MORNING COULD QUICKLY PUSH READINGS WELL INTO THE 50S. EXPECT CLOUDS TO BECOME PREVALENT BY MID MORNING AND WILL LIMIT TEMPERATURES...THEREFORE HAVE TEMPERED HIGHS FOR TODAY BACK A FEW DEGREES AND MORE INTO THE MID TO UPPER 50S. THIS WILL BE TOO WARM IF THE STRATUS LINGERS ALL DAY. THE INITIAL SHORT WAVE WILL REACH WESTERN IA BY THIS AFTERNOON WITH INCREASING QG FORCING AND THE MID LEVEL DRY AIR SLOWLY ERODING AS EVAPORATING PRECIPITATION FALLS INTO THIS LAYER. POSSIBLE BY VERY LATE AFTERNOON THAT A FEW SPRINKLES OR LIGHT RAIN COULD REACH THE SFC OVER THE FAR WEST CENTRAL AND SOUTHWEST. THEREFORE HAVE ADDED LOW POPS. .LONG TERM /FRIDAY THROUGH THURSDAY/... FORECAST PROBLEM IN THE LONG TERM CONTINUES TO BE THE UPPER TROUGH MOVING THROUGH THE UPPER MIDWEST THIS WEEKEND. A NORTHERN STREAM SHORTWAVE WAS MOVING EAST THROUGH THE NORTHERN ROCKIES THIS MORNING WHILE A WEAKER SOUTHERN STREAM WAVE WAS MOVING THROUGH THE DESERT SOUTHWEST. THE NORTHERN SYSTEM IS FORECAST TO MOVE SOUTHEAST INTO THE CENTRAL UNITED STATES AND DEEPEN BY SATURDAY. THE 00Z GFS/NAM PHASE THE TWO WAVES IN THE CENTRAL STATE AND SIGNIFICANTLY DEEPEN THE TROUGH INTO A CLOSED 500 MB LOW. THE 00Z ECMWF REMAINS CONSISTENT WITH IT/S PREVIOUS RUN KEEPING THE SHORT WAVE ENERGY SEPARATE. AS A RESULT...THE NORTHERN SHORTWAVE REMAINS A POSITIVE TILTED OPEN WAVE. THE GFS/NAM SOLUTIONS HAVE A MUCH DEEPER SURFACE LOW WHICH DEVELOPS NORTHEAST OF CENTRAL IOWA. WITH THE DEEPER SYSTEM...THE WIND FIELDS ARE STRONG. IF THE GFS/NAM SOLUTIONS VERIFY...AT A MINIMUM CENTRAL IOWA SHOULD HAVE A DECENT WIND EVENT AND SOME LIGHT SNOW DUE TO THE STRONGER FORCING. IF THE WEAKER LOOKING ECMWF VERIFIES...IT WOULD BE WINDY...BUT PROBABLY BELOW ADVISORY CRITERIA AND LESS SNOW CHANCES. BASED THE FORECAST ON A COMPROMISE BETWEEN THESE VARIED SOLUTIONS. NO HEADLINES FOR WIND AT THIS POINT...BUT WILL MENTION WINDY CONDITIONS IN THE HWO. WILL ALSO MENTION THE POSSIBILITY OF LIGHT SNOW...ESPECIALLY NORTH...BUT ACCUMULATIONS SHOULD BE LIGHT. MOISTURE STEAMING NORTHEAST AHEAD OF THE FRONT TONIGHT ALONG WITH A LARGE AREA OF UPWARD FORCING AHEAD OF THE UPPER TROUGH SUPPORTS HIGH POPS FOR RAIN TONIGHT. ANOTHER COLD FRONT SHOULD MOVE THROUGH THE STATE LATE MONDAY. LACK OF SIGNIFICANT FORCING AND MOISTURE SHOULD KEEP IT DRY. THE 00Z ECMWF IS ADVERTISING A STRONGER COLD FRONT LATE NEXT WEEK. CONFIDENCE ON THE TIMING OF THE FRONTS IS LOW DUE TO MODEL DIFFERENCES NEXT WEEK BETWEEN THE ECMWF AND THE OPERATIONAL GFS. && .AVIATION...25/06Z STRONG SOUTHERLY FLOW WILL CONTINUE OVERNIGHT INTO FRIDAY AHEAD OF APPROACHING SYSTEM. MOISTURE ADVECTING NORTHWARD IN LOW LEVEL JET WILL ARRIVE IN IOWA TOWARD DAYBREAK WITH 950-900MB CDEFS DROPPING QUICKLY. HAVE INCLUDED BROKEN STRATUS IN MOST TAFS BETWEEN 11Z AND 13Z WITH THE RAPID NORTHWARD EXPANSION. THE STATUS SHOULD PERSIST FOR MUCH OF THE MORNING BUT MAY SEE SOME BREAKUP TOWARD AFTERNOON WITH SOME HEATING...ALTHOUGH THE MAY BE OPTIMISTIC GIVEN THE CLIMO THIS TIME OF YEAR. NEXT CONCERN WOULD BE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF RAINFALL FRIDAY EVENING AS FRONT ENTERS THE STATE AND LARGE SCALE ASCENT INCREASES. && .DMX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...NONE. && $$ SHORT TERM...DONAVON LONG TERM...JOHNSON AVIATION...COGIL
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS MARQUETTE MI
405 AM EST FRI NOV 25 2011 .SYNOPSIS... 00Z RAOBS/LATEST WV IMAGERY AND RUC ANALYSIS SHOW PERSISTENT UPR RDGING IN PLACE OVER NAMERICA DOWNSTREAM OF TROFFING OVER THE PAC NW AND WRN CAN. CLOSER TO THE SFC...THE UPR GRT LKS ARE DOMINATED BY A STRONG SW FLOW BTWN HI PRES IN THE MID ATLANTIC STATES AND LO PRES OVER NRN ONTARIO. GRAND MARAIS IN ALGER COUNTY REPORTED SW WIND GUSTS UP TO 37 MPH AT 0330Z. THE 00Z INL AND MPX RAOBS ARE QUITE DRY /IN FACT...THE 00Z H7 DEWPT DEPRESSION AT ABERDEEN SDAKOTA WAS 42C/...SO NOTHING BUT HI CLDS ARE PRESENT ALONG AND AHEAD OF ATTENDANT COLD FNT EXTENDING FM THE ONTARIO LO THRU NW MN INTO NDAKOTA. MORE EXTENSIVE LO CLDS FOLLOW THE FROPA OVER NW NDAKOTA AND SCNTRL CAN WITH SHALLOW COLD AIR INFUSION. OVER THE E HALF OF THE CWA...LLVL MSTR DEPICTED ON THE 00Z GRB RAOB BLO SHARP INVRN BASE NEAR H95 HAS RESULTED IN EXTENSIVE LO CLD. OTRW TEMPS ARE WELL ABV NORMAL FOR THE SEASON...WITH 00Z H85 TEMPS RANGING FM 13C AT GRB AND INL TO 15C AT MPX. SFC TEPS ARE STILL WELL INTO THE 40S AT MANY PLACES EARLY THIS MRNG...10 TO 15 DEGREES ABV THE NORMAL HI TEMPS FOR THE DATE. WELL TO THE W... WV IMAGERY INDICATES A STRONGER SHRTWV IS APRCHG THE PAC NW...WHERE 12Z-24Z H3 FALLS UP TO 100M OCCURRED. && .DISCUSSION... MAIN FCST CONCERNS SHIFT FM LO CLDS/WELL ABV NORMAL TEMPS TDAY TO PCPN CHCS TNGT THRU THE WEEKEND. TDAY...SFC HI PRES OVER THE MID ATLANTIC IS PROGGED TO DRIFT OFF THE SE COAST WHILE LO PRES NOW OVER NRN ONTARIO WL DRIFT ACRS QUEBEC... DRAGGING ATTENDANT COLD FNT INTO THE CWA DURING THE AFTN. ALTHOUGH SFC TEMPS WL BE HELD DOWN ESPECIALLY OVER THE NW WITH THE ARRIVAL OF LLVL COLDER AIR/ARRIVAL OF MORE LO CLDS BEHIND THE FROPA...READINGS WL STILL BE WELL ABV NORMAL...ESPECIALLY OVER THE SCNTRL WHERE THE LO CLDS ARE MORE LIKELY TO BREAK UP. THE SW FLOW OFF LK MI THRU THE DAY AND LO SUN ANGLE WL LIKELY RESULT IN A PERSISTENCE OF THE LO CLD OVER THE E EVEN THOUGH THE STRONGER SW WINDS OBSVD EARLY THIS MRNG WL DIMINISH QUICKLY AS THE PRES GRADIENT SLACKENS. ALTHOUGH SOME MODELS GENERATE LGT PCPN OVER THE CWA WITH THE COLD FROPA...PREFER THE DRY NAM GIVEN THE EXCESSIVE MID LVL DRYNESS OBSVD UPSTREAM. TNGT...STRONGER SHRTWV NOW MOVING INTO THE PAC NW IS FCST TO DEEPEN UPR TROF IN THE PLAINS...WITH SFC LO PRES DVLPG OVER NW WI ON STALLED FNT THAT WL REMAIN ACRS THE CWA. ALTHOUGH LINGERING MID LVL DRY AIR WL LIMIT PCPN CHCS IN THE EVNG...EXPANDING DEEP LYR QVECTOR CNVGC/UPR DVGC/SHARPENING H85-7 FGEN ASSOCIATED WITH APRCHG SHRTWV/ EXIT REGION OF ACCOMPANYING 120KT H3 JET MAX WL INCRS RA CHCS ESPECIALLY OVER THE SW HALF LATER. TENDED TOWARD THE SOMEWHAT WETTER 00Z GFS/12Z ECMWF GIVEN APPARENT STRENGTH OF SHRTWV NOW APRCHG THE PAC NW. SAT...MODEL DISCREPANCIES BECOME MORE PRONOUNCED WITH THE HANDLING OF THE DVLPG LO...SO CONFIDENCE IN THE FCST WL DIMINISH. GIVEN APPARENT STRENGHT OF INCOMING SHRTWV AS MENTIONED ABOVE...TENDED TOWARD THE DEEPER 00Z NAM/GFS SCENARIOS THAT SHOW CUTOFF H5 LO FORMING SOMEWHERE OVER THE UPR MS RIVER VALLEY/UPR MIDWEST. HOWEVER...NCEP PREFERENCE FOR THE WEAKER SOLNS SHOWN BY THE 12Z ECMWF AND 00Z CNDN LOWER CONFIDENCE FURTHER. FORTUNATELY...THERE IS RELATIVELY LTL DIFFERENCE IN THE SFC LO PLACEMENT AMONG THE VARIOUS MODELS DESPITE THE DIFFERENCES IN INTENSITY. MODELS SHOW SFC LO MOVING TO NEAR MQT BY 00Z SUN. ALTHOUGH DRY SLOTTING TO THE E OF THE H5 LO WL LIKELY RESULT IN A DIMINISHING TREND OF THE PCPN OVER MAINLY THE CNTRL AND E...EXPECT HEAVIER PCPN TO LINGER OVER THE W FM IWD-CMX THRU THE DAY CLOSER TO THE TRACK OF THE ACCOMPANYING H85 LO. PER GFS FCST WBLB ZERO HGT FCST TO FALL NEAR 1K FT AGL BY 00Z SUN...EXPECT ENUF COLD AIR TO ARRIVE LATE IN THE DAY TO RESULT IN AT LEAST A MIX OF RA/SN NEAR IWD UNDER THE SHARPER CYC NLY FLOW. SAT NGT THRU SUN...VARIOUS MODELS SHOW SFC LO DRIFTING SLOWLY TO THE NE TO SSE OF JAMES BAY BY LATE IN THE DAY SUN. THE NAM BECOMES A PARTICULAR OUTLIER SHOWING THE LO LINGERING NEAR UPR MI...SO REJECTED THIS FCST. THE OTHER PREFERRED MODELS SUG PCPN WITHIN COMMA HEAD MSTR UNDER SHARPER NNW CYC FLOW/H85 THERMAL TROFFING WL IMPACT MAINLY THE NW HALF AND SLOWLY CHG TO SN AS COLDER AIR MOVES OVHD... WITH BOTH THE 00Z GFS/12Z ECMWF INDICATING H85 TEMPS FALLING TO ARND -9C...LO ENUF FOR LK EFFECT PCPN CONSIDERING LK SUP TEMPS ARND 5C. HOWEVER...EVEN THE DEEPER GFS SUGS SN GROWTH MICROPHYSICS WL NOT BE VERY FVRBL GIVEN FCST WEAK UVV IN THE DENDRITIC SN GROWTH ZN. EVEN SO...SOME LO END ADVY SN AMNTS MAY BE PSBL OVER THE W WITH LK ENHANCEMENT AS THE SN SHOULD BE WET AND HEAVY. THE NEW 00Z ECMWF INDICATES GOOD CONTINUITY WITH THE 12Z RUN...BUT SHOWS QUICKER DRYING ON SUN WITH A WEAKER CYC FLOW/FASTER EXIT THAN INDICATED BY THE DEEPER GFS. TENDED TOWARD HIER POPS OVER THE W TO THE HURON MTNS WHERE THE UPSLOPE NNW FLOW WOULD HAVE A MORE SGNFT IMPACT AS HINTED BY THE 00Z CNDN MODEL. EXPECT A DRYING TREND W-E ON SUN NGT WITH THE ARRIVAL OF A HI PRES RDG. EXTENDED RANGE...EXPECT A MORE SEASONABLY CHILLY PATTERN WITH NW FLOW ALF ALLOWING FOR FREQUENT SHRTWV PASSAGES/POTENTIAL LES EPISODES. MADE FEW CHGS TO ALL BLEND FCST NUMBERS. && .AVIATION /FOR THE 06Z TAF ISSUANCE/... IR SATELLITE IMAGERY SHOWS STRATUS/FOG EXPANDING FROM ERN UPR MI INTO CENTRAL UPR MI THIS EVENING AS LOW-LVL MOISTURE BCMS TRAPPED UNDER STRENGTHENING INVERSION. KSAW HAS ALREADY GOTTEN INTO STRATUS AND PATCHY FOG AND WOULD EXPECT THIS TO LINGER INTO THE LATE MORNING AS SOUTHWEST WINDS PUSH MOISTURE BACK INTO THE REGION TONIGHT AND INVERSION STRENGTHENS...EXPECT LOW CLOUDS TO REDEVELOP AND PUSH INTO THE TAF SITES. GREATEST CHANCE OF LOW CLOUDS FORMING TONIGHT WILL BE AT KSAW...BUT THERE SHOULD BE IFR/LOWER MVFR CLOUDS AT ALL SITES BY MID MORNING ON FRIDAY. LLWS IS EXPECTED AGAIN TONIGHT AHEAD OF AN APPROACHING SURFACE TROUGH THAT MOVES THROUGH ON FRIDAY. && .MARINE /FOR THE 4AM LAKE SUPERIOR FORECAST ISSUANCE/... A SURFACE TROUGH STALLING OVER LAKE SUPERIOR TODAY WILL BRING A DIMINISHING TREND TO THE WINDS THROUGH MUCH OF THE DAY. A LOW DEVELOPING ALONG THE SURFACE TROUGH IN THE CENTRAL PLAINS TODAY...WILL BEGIN TO MOVE NORTHEAST TONIGHT AND OVER CENTRAL UPPER MICHIGAN ON SATURDAY. EXPECT INCREASING EAST TO NORTHEAST WINDS LATE THIS AFTERNOON OVER THE WEST AND THE REST OVER THE AREA TONIGHT...WITH GUSTS UP TO 30KTS OVER THE NORTH HALF OF THE LAKE TONIGHT. AS THE LOW MOVES EAST ON SATURDAY NIGHT...NORTH GALES OF 35KTS ARE EXPECTED OVER WEST CENTRAL LAKE SUPERIOR. THE GALES SHOULD SPREAD EAST ON SUNDAY AS WINDS SHIFT TO THE NORTHWEST...BEFORE DIMINISHING BELOW 20KTS ON SUNDAY NIGHT AS HIGH PRESSURE MOVES OVER LAKE SUPERIOR. A SURFACE TROUGH MOVING ACROSS LAKE SUPERIOR ON MONDAY AFTERNOON AND EVENING WILL PROVIDE ANOTHER PERIOD OF STRONG SOUTHWEST WINDS...WITH THE POTENTIAL OF NORTHWEST GALES TO 35KTS BEHIND THE TROUGH MONDAY NIGHT AND TUESDAY MORNING. && .MQT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... UPPER MICHIGAN... NONE. LAKE SUPERIOR... GALE WATCH FROM SATURDAY EVENING THROUGH SUNDAY AFTERNOON FOR LSZ263-264. LAKE MICHIGAN... NONE. && $$ SYNOPSIS...KC DISCUSSION...KC AVIATION...VOSS MARINE...SRF
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NWS CHARLESTON WV
1230 AM EST FRI NOV 25 2011 .SYNOPSIS... HIGH PRESSURE WITH DRY WEATHER CONTINUES THROUGH SATURDAY. MORE RAIN SUNDAY WITH THE NEXT LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM. TURNING COLDER WITH RAIN AND SNOW SHOWERS EARLY NEXT WEEK. && .NEAR TERM /THROUGH TODAY/... UPDATE... HAVE MADE SOME SIGNIFICANT ADJUSTMENTS TO THE OVERNIGHT LOW TEMPERATURES WITH THIS UPDATE. COOL SPOTS/VALLEYS HAVE DROPPED QUICKLY...WHILE ELEVATED SITES IN THE WARMER BOUNDARY LAYER AIR STILL REMAIN IN THE 40S IN SOME LOCATIONS. THIS INCLUDES SNOWSHOE. LOCAL COOP MOS GUIDANCE IS BULLISH ON SOME OF THE LOWS GETTING DOWN INTO THE MID 20S TONIGHT FOR PLACES LIKE NORTHEAST KENTUCKY AND NORTHEAST OF PKB. SAME GUIDANCE ALSO SUGGESTS TEENS IN THE GREENBRIER VALLEY OF POCAHONTAS COUNTY. STILL ON BOARD WITH THE RUC AND THE LOW LEVEL STRATUS DECK REDEVELOPING NEAR THE OHIO RIVER VALLEY INTO SOUTHEAST OHIO. EXTENT OF THE OVERALL CLEARING CURRENTLY TAKING PLACE IS DECREASING CONFIDENCE AT THE TIME OF THIS ISSUANCE. PREVIOUS DISCUSSION... NO SMELL OF TURKEY HERE. EVEN UNDER THE HIGH PRESSURE...THERE ARE ISSUES. STRATUS UNDER THE TEMPERATURE INVERSION CONTINUES TO ERODE FROM THE SOUTH. BY 22Z SUNSET...FIGURING THE STRATUS ONLY LEFT IN OHIO. WILL TRY TO REFORM...OR ADVECT...SOME OF THAT STRATUS 06Z TO 12Z FRIDAY BACK IN SOUTHEAST OHIO AND MAYBE REACHING INTO NORTHWESTERN WEST VIRGINIA INCLUDING THE PKB VCNTY. WITH WARMER BOUNDARY LAYER TEMPERATURES...DO NOT THINK THE STRATUS WILL REFORM IN SOUTHERN WEST VIRGINIA. SO CAN NOT RULE OUT SOME LOCAL VALLEY FOG IN THE DEEPER VALLEYS THERE...UNDER THE CLEAR SKY 06Z TO 13Z. HAVE NOT REEVALUATED TEMPERATURES...BUT DO NOT FORESEE ANY MAJOR CHANGES THROUGH FRIDAY. && .SHORT TERM /TONIGHT THROUGH SUNDAY/... HIGH PRESSURE RIDGE ALOFT...AND A SURFACE HIGH PRESSURE WILL PROVIDE CLEAR SKIES...AND DRY WEATHER CONDITIONS INTO THE DAY SATURDAY. THIS SCENARIO MEANS WARM AFTERNOON DUE TO HEATING...AND CHILLY NIGHTS DUE TO RADIATIONAL COOLING AND STRONG SUBSIDENCE. A LARGE DIURNAL RANGE IN TEMPERATURES WITH NEAR NORMAL LOWS BUT ABOVE NORMAL HIGHS INTO THE 60S IS EXPECTED. A COLD FRONT CROSS THE AREA EARLY SUNDAY. MODEL CONSENSUS SUGGEST TEMPERATURES AT H850 REACHING MINUS 3 BY 12Z SUNDAY. THEREFORE...EXPECT LIQUID PRECIPITATION WITH THE COLD FRONT ON SUNDAY...PERHAPS MIXING WITH SNOW LATE OVER THE NORTHEAST MOUNTAINS. PEOPLE COMING BACK FROM THANKSGIVING WEEKEND COULD ENCOUNTER WET ROADS ON SUNDAY. && .LONG TERM /SUNDAY NIGHT THROUGH THURSDAY/... LOW CONFIDENCE CONTINUES IN THE LONG TERM PERIOD AS MODELS CONTINUE TO DIFFER WITH THE HANDLING OF NEXT STORM SYSTEM...PROGGED TO MOVE INTO THE REGION ON SUNDAY. 12Z RUN OF THE GFS INDICATES BULK OF PRECIPITATION AND COLD FRONTAL BOUNDARY WILL BE ON THE WAY OUT OF THE CWA BY THE START OF THE PERIOD...WITH COLDER AIR FILTERING IN OVERNIGHT AS UPPER TROUGH CONTINUES TO PUSH EAST...WITH CAA PATTERN FOR MONDAY. GFS THEN INDICATES A CLOSED LOW FORMING OVER THE CAROLINAS...BEFORE TREKKING OFF TO THE EAST OVER THE ATLANTIC AS SHORTWAVE RIDGING BUILDS INTO THE REGION. ECMWF CONTINUES TO INDICATE A CLOSED LOW FORMING NEAR GULF STATES...BEFORE TREKKING NORTHEAST TOWARDS THE REGION. THIS SCENARIO WOULD CREATE A PROLONGED PERIOD OF WET WEATHER...AND WARMER TEMPERATURES THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR THE BULK OF PRECIPITATION TO BE IN THE FORM OF RAIN. FOLLOWED HPC THINKING...WHICH IS MORE PROGRESSIVE...AND FOLLOWS GFS MEAN SOLUN. VERY TRICKY FORECAST IN TERMS OF PRECIPITATION TYPE ON SUNDAY NIGHT/EARLY MONDAY. TEMPERATURES ARE EXPECTED TO BE COLD ENOUGH FOR MUCH OF THE PRECIPITATION TO CHANGE OVER TO ALL SNOW...OR A RAIN/SNOW MIX SUNDAY NIGHT...HOWEVER...DRIER AIR WILL ALSO BE WORKING ITS WAY INTO UPPER AND MID LEVELS. AS A RESULT...REALLY NO MOISTURE EXPECTED IN THE CRYSTAL GROWTH ZONE...AND IT IS POSSIBLE...SOME OF THE PRECIPITATION MAY BE IN THE FORM OF A FREEZING DRIZZLE...PARTICULARLY OVER THE LOWLAND COUNTIES. WITH THE WARM GROUND TEMPERATURES HOWEVER...THIS WILL LIKELY MITIGATE ANY MAJOR ISSUES TRAVEL WISE. FOR NOW...TO KEEP IN LINE WITH NEIGHBORS AND DUE TO THE FACT THAT THE EVENT IS SEVERAL DAYS AWAY...KEPT PRECIPITATION MAINLY AS SNOW OR A RAIN/SNOW MIX IN THE GRIDS. BEST PLACE FOR ANY SNOWFALL ACCUMULATIONS SUNDAY NIGHT/MONDAY WILL BE OVER THE NORTHERN MOUNTAIN ZONES...WHERE MODELS INDICATE AROUND 4 INCHES OR SO POSSIBLE. KEPT AMOUNTS GENERALLY LESS THAN THAT FOR NOW...BUT WILL CONTINUE TO MONITOR FOR FUTURE FORECASTS. PATTERN CONTINUES TO REMAIN PROGRESSIVE FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE EXTENDED PERIOD WITH LOW FORECAST CONFIDENCE. && .AVIATION /06Z FRIDAY THROUGH TUESDAY/... DENSE RIVER VALLEY FOG FORMING ACROSS THE REGION. AFTER THE FOG LIFTS THIS MORNING...EXPECT VFR CONDITIONS FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE PERIOD. FORECAST CONFIDENCE AND ALTERNATE SCENARIOS THROUGH 06Z SATURDAY... FORECAST CONFIDENCE: HIGH. ALTERNATE SCENARIOS: TIMING OF FOG FORMING AND DISSIPATING COULD VARY. EXPERIMENTAL TABLE OF FLIGHT CATEGORY OBJECTIVELY SHOWS CONSISTENCY OF WFO FORECAST TO AVAILABLE MODEL INFORMATION: H = HIGH: TAF CONSISTENT WITH ALL MODELS OR ALL BUT ONE MODEL. M = MEDIUM: TAF HAS VARYING LEVEL OF CONSISTENCY WITH MODELS. L = LOW: TAF INCONSISTENT WITH ALL MODELS OR ALL BUT ONE MODEL. DATE FRI 11/25/11 UTC 1HRLY 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 EST 1HRLY 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 CRW CONSISTENCY M L L L L L L L M H H H HTS CONSISTENCY M L L L L L L L M H H H BKW CONSISTENCY H H H H H H H H H H H H EKN CONSISTENCY L L L L L L L L M H H H PKB CONSISTENCY M M M L L M M L H H H H CKB CONSISTENCY L L L L L L M L M H H H AFTER 06Z SATURDAY... IFR POSSIBLE IN RAIN AND SNOW SUNDAY INTO MONDAY. && .RLX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... WV...NONE. OH...NONE. KY...NONE. VA...NONE. && $$ SYNOPSIS...KTB/ARJ/SL NEAR TERM...KTB/26 SHORT TERM...ARJ LONG TERM...SL AVIATION...RPY
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NWS NORMAN OK
1053 PM CST THU NOV 24 2011 .AVIATION... /06Z TAFS/ IFR STRATUS DECK THAT HAS OVERSPREAD CENTRAL AND PARTS OF SW OK WILL CONTINUE TO ADVANCE NORTH AND WEST OVERNIGHT AFFECTING ALL TERMINALS WITH THE POSSIBLE EXCEPTION OF KGAG AND KWWR. AREAS OF LIGHT FOG WILL ALSO OCCUR. LLWS EXPECTED DURING THE NIGHT AS THE LOW LEVEL JET INCREASES. LOW CLOUDS SHOULD GRADUALLY BREAK UP DURING THE MORNING. A COLD FRONT MOVING INTO NW OK FRIDAY EVENING WILL BRING A CHANCE OF SHOWERS TO THE AREA... WITH GREATEST COVERAGE BEING ACROSS NORTH CENTRAL OK. && .PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 816 PM CST THU NOV 24 2011/ UPDATE... STRATUS HAS SPREAD NORTH/NORTHWEST QUICKLY THIS EVENING AND HRRR SUGGESTS THAT THIS TREND WILL CONTINUE THROUGH THE NIGHT WITH BROKEN TO OVERCAST SKIES LIKELY ENVELOPING THE EASTERN TWO-THIRDS OR SO OF THE FORECAST AREA BY SUNRISE. HAVE MADE A MAJOR OVERHAUL TO THE SKY GRIDS. ALTHOUGH THERE MAY BE SOME LOCATIONS WITH RESTRICTED VISIBILITY... EXPECT WINDS TO REMAIN STRONG ENOUGH THAT DO NOT EXPECT VERY MUCH DENSE FOG... ALTHOUGH THE HRRR DISAGREES WITH THIS AND WILL CONTINUE TO WATCH TRENDS OVERNIGHT. HAVE ALSO MADE BIG CHANGES TO THE HOURLY TEMPERATURE GRIDS DUE TO THE QUICK DROP OF TEMPERATURES THIS EVENING AND USED THE RUC AS THE PRIMARY SOURCE FOR THE TEMPERATURES. THIS ALSO REQUIRED SOME ADJUSTMENT TO THE OVERNIGHT MINIMUM TEMPERATURE FORECAST ALTHOUGH IT APPEARS THAT THESE CHANGES ARE MINOR IN MOST LOCATIONS. PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 600 PM CST THU NOV 24 2011/ AVIATION... /00Z TAFS/ MAIN AVIATION ISSUE WILL OCCUR TONIGHT IN REGARDS TO THE EVOLUTION AND MOVEMENT OF THE STRATUS DECK CURRENTLY IN SE OK. BELIEVE IT WILL MOVE INTO PORTIONS OF CENTRAL AND SW OK... AND WESTERN N-TX LATER TONIGHT... AND GIVEN MOST RECENT SATELLITE TRENDS... IT MAY SPREAD FASTER THAN PREVIOUSLY EXPECTED. ALSO MENTIONED LIKELIHOOD OF LLWS LATER TONIGHT IN SEVERAL LOCATIONS AS THE LOW LEVEL JET STRENGTHENS. LOW CLOUDS EXPECTED TO SCATTER OUT THURSDAY MORNING. MEANWHILE... A FEW SHOWERS MAY BEGIN TO SPREAD INTO NW OK BY LATE IN THE DAY. PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 156 PM CST THU NOV 24 2011/ DISCUSSION... CLOUDS CONTINUE TO ERODE IN SE PORTIONS OF THE FA THIS AFTERNOON. HOWEVER... THEY ARE SLOW TO DO SO WHICH MEANS CLOUDS COULD LINGER INTO THE EVENING. OTHERWISE... QUIET NIGHT TONIGHT WITH ONLY SOME HIGH CLOUDS STREAMING INTO THE REGION AS UPPER TROUGH MOVING ACROSS THE SW U.S. APPROACHES THE AREA. SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS WILL BE POSSIBLE FRIDAY AS THE STORM SYSTEM APPROACHES WITH CHANCES EXPANDING EAST AND RAIN BECOMING MORE WIDESPREAD FRIDAY NIGHT. HEAVY RAIN IS NOT EXPECTED WITH THIS SYSTEM. THE UPPER SYSTEM WILL EXIT THE REGION SATURDAY WITH RAIN CHANCES ENDING FOR THE FA BY AROUND THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY SATURDAY. A COLD FRONT WILL ALSO MOVE ACROSS THE REGION FRIDAY NIGHT INTO SATURDAY. STRONG NORTH WINDS ARE EXPECTED BEHIND THE FRONT SATURDAY MAKING CONDITIONS FEEL MUCH COOLER THAN THEY ARE. TEMPERATURES WILL WARM SUNDAY INTO MONDAY BEFORE ANOTHER COLD FRONT MOVES ACROSS THE REGION LATE MONDAY INTO TUESDAY. THIS FRONTAL PASSAGE IS EXPECTED TO BE DRY BUT WILL BRING A COOLER AIRMASS TO THE REGION. MODELS SHOW ANOTHER UPPER SYSTEM AND COLD FRONT AFFECTING THE REGION TOWARDS THE END OF NEXT WEEK. && .PRELIMINARY POINT TEMPS/POPS... OKLAHOMA CITY OK 46 64 45 51 / 0 20 70 10 HOBART OK 50 64 40 50 / 0 30 50 10 WICHITA FALLS TX 51 65 46 55 / 0 20 70 10 GAGE OK 47 65 36 45 / 0 40 40 0 PONCA CITY OK 46 65 43 49 / 0 20 70 10 DURANT OK 47 65 51 56 / 0 10 70 40 && .OUN WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... OK...NONE. TX...NONE. && $$ 26/25/32
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NWS LA CROSSE WI
301 AM CST FRI NOV 25 2011 .SHORT TERM...TODAY THROUGH MONDAY 301 AM CST FRI NOV 25 2011 BIG CHANGES COMING OVER THE NEXT FEW DAYS AS RAIN STARTS UP TONIGHT AHEAD OF A COLD FRONT WHICH WILL KNOCK TEMPERATURES DOWN ON SATURDAY. BEYOND THIS...THERE IS MUCH UNCERTAINTY FOR SATURDAY NIGHT INTO SUNDAY WITH WHETHER AN ACCUMULATING SNOW WILL OCCUR. CURRENTLY...MILD CONDITIONS WERE OBSERVED ACROSS THE REGION DUE TO GUSTY SOUTH TO SOUTHWEST WINDS AT THE SURFACE AHEAD OF A COLD FRONT THAT EXTENDS FROM SOUTHWEST ONTARIO THROUGH NORTHERN MINNESOTA ON INTO CENTRAL SOUTH DAKOTA. FURTHER ALOFT...GENERAL SOUTHWEST FLOW AHEAD OF TROUGHING DUE TO A NORTHERN AND SOUTHERN STREAM LOW WAS HELPING TO ADVECT MID TO HIGH LEVEL CLOUDS INTO THE REGION. AS THE SOUTHERN STREAM TROUGH PROPAGATES EAST INTO THE SOUTHERN PLAINS THIS MORNING...LOW LEVEL MOISTURE ADVECTION WILL BE ON THE INCREASE AS A SURFACE LOW DEEPENS ACROSS THE NORTHERN PLAINS. AS A RESULT...ANOTHER LOW LEVEL STRATUS DECK IS EXPECTED TO DEVELOP NORTHWARD THIS MORNING FROM THE SOUTHERN PLAINS. THE LATEST IR SCANS AT 8Z SHOWS THE LEADING EDGE OF THIS STRATUS NEAR EMPORIA KANSAS...WHICH CORRELATES WELL TO THE 25.07Z RUC 950-900MB LAYER RH. THIS RUN OF THE RUC SHOWS THE HIGHER RH VALUES INCREASING RAPIDLY THIS MORNING ACROSS THE SOUTHEASTERN HALF OF IOWA TOWARD THE NORTHERN HALF OF LAKE MICHIGAN BY 18Z TODAY. 25.07Z RUC AND 25.00Z NAM/GFS SOUNDINGS FROM ACROSS THE REGION SHOW THIS HIGHER RH BEING TRAPPED UNDER A STOUT 900-850MB INVERSION AND THEREFORE HAVE GONE WITH A MORE PESSIMISTIC CLOUD FORECAST TODAY. THIS CLOUD COVER WILL LIMIT HOW MUCH WARMING CAN OCCUR INTO THE AFTERNOON WITH THE HIGHS LIKELY COMING THIS MORNING. AFTER THE STRATUS FILLS IN...THE NEXT QUESTION IS WHEN WILL THE RAIN START UP TONIGHT. 25.00Z NAM AND GFS SOUNDINGS SHOW A DECENT DRY LAYER CENTERED ON 800MB THAT WILL NEED TO BE OVERCOME FOR ANY PRECIPITATION TO MAKE IT DOWN TO THE GROUND. BASED ON THESE SOUNDINGS AND MID LEVEL QG FORCING FIELDS...IT APPEARS THAT THE DEEP MOISTURE AND FORCING COMES TOGETHER LATER TONIGHT AHEAD OF THE SURFACE COLD FRONT AND MID LEVEL TROUGH. THE THERMAL PROFILE WILL BE WARM ENOUGH FOR THIS PRECIPITATION TO BE IN ALL LIQUID FORM THROUGH SATURDAY MORNING BEFORE THE FRONT COMES THROUGH. AFTER THE FRONT COMES THROUGH THE REGION SATURDAY MORNING INTO EARLY SATURDAY AFTERNOON...UNCERTAINTY TAKES OVER WITH WHAT WILL OCCUR SATURDAY NIGHT INTO SUNDAY. THE ONE THING THAT APPEARS TO BE CERTAIN IS THAT COLDER AIR WILL ADVECT INTO THE REGION IN THE LOW LEVELS BRINGING MUCH OF THE THERMAL PROFILE TO BELOW FREEZING AND SUPPORTIVE OF SNOW BEING THE PRECIPITATION TYPE. THE MAIN UNCERTAINTY LIES WITH THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE US AND NON-US MODEL SOLUTIONS WITH THE STRENGTH AND TRACK OF THE TROUGH. BASED ON INPUT FROM HPC/S MODEL DIAGNOSTICS DESK...THE UNFAVORED SOLUTION IS THE 25.00Z NAM/GFS AND 24.21Z SREF MEAN WHICH PRODUCE A DEEPER...CLOSED OFF MID LEVEL LOW WHICH BRINGS THE DEFORMATION AXIS THROUGH THE HEART OF THE FORECAST AREA. THESE SOLUTIONS WOULD LIKELY LEAD TO AN ACCUMULATING SNOW ACROSS MUCH OF THE REGION. THESE MODELS ALSO DEVELOPS A VERY TIGHT PRESSURE GRADIENT IN THE LOW LEVEL COLD AIR ADVECTION POCKET ON THE SOUTHWEST SIDE OF THE SURFACE LOW WHICH WOULD BRING GUSTS UP NEAR ADVISORY CRITERIA. HOWEVER...AT THIS POINT THE FAVORED SOLUTION FOR SATURDAY NIGHT INTO SUNDAY IS WITH THE 25.00Z ECMWF/UKMET/CANADIAN MODELS. THESE FORMS OF GUIDANCE ALL SHOW A MUCH LESS AMPLIFIED...OPEN MID LEVEL WAVE WITH HARDLY ANY SNOW COMING THROUGH SATURDAY NIGHT. BASED ON THIS INPUT FROM HPC ...HAVE BACKED OFF ON THE PROBABILITY FOR PRECIPITATION AND THE WIND GUSTS JUST A TAD ON SATURDAY NIGHT. FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THIS FAVORED TREND...PLEASE SEE THE LATEST PMDHMD FROM HPC. COLD AIR WILL REMAIN IN PLACE UNTIL MONDAY WHEN A BRIEF SHOT OF LOW LEVEL WARM AIR ADVECTION COMES THROUGH THE REGION. .LONG TERM...MONDAY NIGHT THROUGH THURSDAY NIGHT 301 AM CST FRI NOV 25 2011 NOT A WHOLE LOT OF CONFIDENCE GOING INTO THE EXTENDED PERIOD DUE TO THE ISSUES THIS WEEKEND...BUT HAVE TRENDED TOWARD THE 25.00Z ECMWF/GEM/UKMET FORECAST WHICH CUT OFF A MID LEVEL LOW ALONG THE GULF COAST EARLY NEXT WEEK AND SLOWLY BRINGS IT TOWARD THE NORTHEASTERN US INTO MID WEEK. THIS SETUP WILL KEEP THE REGION IN A COOL NORTHWESTERLY FLOW ALOFT AND LIMIT ANY KIND OF WARMING TRENDS. NOT MUCH IN THE WAY OF PRECIPITATION CHANCES EXCEPT FOR AN OPEN MID LEVEL TROUGH THAT DIVES SOUTHEAST TOWARD THE GREAT LAKES ON THURSDAY WHICH COULD BRING SOME PRECIPITATION WITH IT. && .AVIATION...THROUGH 06Z SATURDAY 1135 PM CST THU NOV 24 2011 CONCERNS CONTINUE TO BE CENTERED ON LOW LEVEL WIND SHEAR IN THE NEAR TERM AND THEN STRATUS AFTER 12Z FRIDAY. LOW LEVEL JET CONTINUES QUITE STRONG WITH THE KARX VAD WIND PROFILE SHOWING 40 TO 50 KNOTS BETWEEN 2K-3K FEET. WITH SURFACE WINDS ONLY AROUND 10 KNOTS AT KLSE HAVE KEPT THE LOW LEVEL WIND SHEAR IN THE FORECAST THROUGH 15Z FRIDAY AS THE JET THEN DIMINISHES. WINDS CONTINUE TO GUST TO 25 KNOTS AT KRST AND EXPECT THESE TO CONTINUE THROUGH MUCH OF THE NIGHT...BUT GRADIENT DOES RELAX AFTER 12Z AND DID DROP THE GUSTS...BUT SUSTAINED WINDS WILL REMAIN ABOVE 12 KNOTS. AS FOR THE STRATUS AND CEILINGS HEIGHTS. STRATUS WAS CURRENTLY OVER OKLAHOMA ADVECTING NORTHWARD. 25.04Z RUC 1000MB-900MB RELATIVE HUMIDITY PROG HAS A DECENT HANDLE ON THIS MOISTURE...BUT IS A LITTLE TO FAR NORTH WITH IT INITIALLY. BOTH THE RUC AND THE 25.00Z NAM BOTH SHOW THIS MOISTURE ADVECTING NORTHWARD...BUT NOT ARRIVING UNTIL THE 13Z-15Z TIME FRAME. WITH CONSISTENT SIGNAL DID INCLUDE A BROKEN CEILING AT BOTH TAF SITES...BUT FOR NOW KEPT THEM IN THE 010K-015K FOOT RANGE. NEXT SHIFT SHOULD HAVE A BETTER HANDLE ON TIMING AND EXTENT OF THESE CLOUDS. WITH THE COLD FRONT PUSHING CLOSER TO THE AREA BETWEEN 00Z-06Z SATURDAY...DID MENTION VCSH AT BOTH SITES AFTER 03Z WITH A CONTINUATION OF THE MVFR CEILINGS. && .CLIMATE...FOR TODAY 301 AM CST FRI NOV 25 2011 RECORD HIGHEST LOWS MAY BE BROKEN TODAY AT BOTH ROCHESTER AND LA CROSSE WITH TEMPERATURES THIS MORNING FAIRLY MILD IN THE UPPER 40S TO AROUND 50. THE RECORD HIGHEST LOW TEMPERATURE FOR ROCHESTER TODAY IS 37 FROM 1915. THE RECORD HIGHEST LOW TEMPERATURE FOR LA CROSSE TODAY IS 42 IN 1998. FORECAST TEMPERATURES AT MIDNIGHT TONIGHT ARE EXPECTED TO BE ABOVE THESE VALUES. && .ARX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... 301 AM CST FRI NOV 25 2011 WI...NONE. MN...NONE. IA...NONE. && $$ SHORT TERM...HALBACH LONG TERM...HALBACH AVIATION...RABERDING CLIMATE...HALBACH
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS LA CROSSE WI
1136 PM CST THU NOV 24 2011 .SHORT TERM...TONIGHT THROUGH SUNDAY NIGHT 236 PM CST THU NOV 24 2011 MAIN FORECAST CONCERNS THIS PACKAGE...RAIN CHANCES FRI NIGHT/SAT... WINDS SAT...RAIN/SNOW CHANCES SAT NIGHT...TEMPERATURES THRU THE PERIOD. DATA ANALYSIS AT 18Z HAD TIGHTER PRESSURE GRADIENT BETWEEN HIGH PRESSURE OVER THE SOUTHEAST CONUS AND LOW PRESSURE EAST OF LK WINNIPEG OVER THE AREA. BRISK SOUTH WINDS ACROSS MUCH OF MN/IA/WI AT MID-DAY. THESE WINDS...COMBINED WITH DIURNAL WARMING AND SOUTHWEST- WEST FLOW IN THE 925-700MB LAYERS HELPING TO ERODE/ADVECT THE LOW STRATUS CLOUDS EAST AND OUT OF THE FCST AREA. TEMPS RESPONDING TO THE WARM ADVECTION/MOSTLY SUNNY SKIES WITH NOONTIME READINGS IN THE MID 40S TO MID 60S FROM NORTHEAST WI TO SOUTHWEST IA...SOME 10-20F ABOVE NORMAL AND NEAR RECORD HIGHS AT SOME LOCATIONS ON THIS THANKSGIVING DAY. 24.12Z MODELS LOOK TO HAVE INITIALIZED WELL AND OFFER RATHER SIMILAR SOLUTIONS FOR TONIGHT INTO SAT. MODELS GRADUALLY CONVERGING ON A COMMON/TIGHTER CONSENSUS SOLUTION WITH THE TROUGH/LOW TO MOVE ACROSS THE REGION FRI NIGHT THRU SAT NIGHT. DPROG/DT OF 500MB HGTS AT 24.12Z SHOWED MODEL RUNS OF 22.12Z AND 23.12Z VERIFIED QUITE WELL ACROSS NOAM/EASTERN PAC WITH BETTER RUN-TO-RUN CONSISTENCY BY ECMWF. TREND IS TOWARD A COMPROMISE OF THE EARLIER RUNS. MODELS CONTINUE TO CONVERGE TOWARD A COMMON SOLUTION TONIGHT THRU SAT AS THE TROUGH/ ENERGY MOVES FROM NEAR THE WEST COAST TO THE WESTERN PLAINS BY 00Z SAT THEN TO THE MID/UPPER MS VALLEY BY 00Z SUN. TREND GENERALLY FAVORS THE SLOWER OF THE EARLIER RUNS WITH A COMPROMISE ON THE STRENGTH OF THE TROUGH. DIFFERENCES REMAIN BETWEEN THE MODELS FOR SAT NIGHT INTO SUN NIGHT WITH A MORE CONSOLIDATED LOW/TROUGH OVER THE CENTRAL GREAT LAKES /GFS/NAM/ VS. A MORE NORTHERN/SOUTHERN STREAM...OPEN TROUGH SPLIT OF THE ENERGY /ECMWF/GEM/UKMET/. GFS ENSEMBLE MEAN SPLITS THE DIFFERENCE OF THE 2 GROUPS SAT NIGHT/SUN. ECMWF LOOKS TO HAVE SLIGHTLY BETTER RUN-TO-RUN CONSISTENCY IN THE LATER PART OF THE SHORT-TERM PERIOD. CHECK OF OBS VS. MODEL DATA AT 18Z SHOWED MODELS ALL REASONABLE WITH THE SFC MASS FIELDS OVER THE CENTRAL CONUS. PER WV IMAGERY...ALL APPEARED REASONABLE WITH THE SHORTWAVE DETAILS OVER NOAM/EASTERN PAC. THUS AGAIN NO CLEAR DETERMINISTIC MODEL FAVORITE. WITH THE TRENDS TOWARD A COMPROMISE SOLUTION...AT LEAST THRU 60HRS...FAVORED THE MODEL/ENSEMBLE COMPROMISE SOLUTION. GIVEN THE CONTINUED DETAIL DIFFERENCES...SHORT- TERM FCST CONFIDENCE AVERAGE AT BEST THIS CYCLE. IN THE SHORT TERM...FIRST CONCERN IS RETURN OF MOISTURE IN 950-900MB LAYER TONIGHT AND IF IT WILL MANIFEST AS ANOTHER LOW STRATUS DECK OR NOT. SEE AVIATION DISCUSSION BELOW FOR MORE DETAILS ON POTENTIAL LOW CLOUDS/BR TONIGHT AS THE LOWER LEVEL MOISTURE RETURNS. DID SHOW INCREASING CLOUDS IN THE GRIDS LATER TONIGHT AS MOISTURE/BROAD LIFT ABOVE 500MB AHEAD OF THE TROUGH ADVANCING THRU THE ROCKIES INCREASE OVER THE AREA. BRISK WINDS TONIGHT AND THESE CLOUDS TO MAKE FOR A SEASONABLY MILD NIGHT ACROSS THE AREA TONIGHT...WITH LOWS ABOVE THE NORMAL HIGHS FOR THE DATE. MOISTURE/LIFT CONTINUE TO INCREASE OVER THE AREA FRI WITH THICKENING CLOUDS. QUESTION REMAINS WILL A SMALL -RA CHANCE BE NEEDED ACROSS THE SOUTH END OF THE FCST AREA LATE IN THE AFTERNOON. MODELS MAINTAIN A DRY LAYER BETWEEN 850-650MB OVER THE SOUTH END OF THE FCST AREA FRI AFTERNOON...WITH MODEST LIFT AT BEST AT OR ABOVE 500MB. WILL MAINTAIN THE DRY FRI AFTERNOON FCST FOR NOW. MOISTURE/850-500MB THERMO-DYNAMIC FORCING/LIFT INCREASE QUICKLY FRI EVENING...MAXIMIZING OVER THE FCST AREA LATE FRI NIGHT INTO EARLY SAT MORNING. THIS WITH INCREASING 500-300MB PV ADVECTION AND 300MB AGEOSTROPHIC FLOW/DIVERGENCE IN RIGHT ENTRANCE REGION OF A 110KT JET AHEAD OF THE TROUGH AXIS. PW VALUES INCREASE INTO THE 0.75 TO 1 INCH RANGE OVER THE SOUTHEAST 3/4 OF THE FCST AREA AS WELL BY 12Z SAT. THUS RAISED RAIN CHANCE THRU FRI NIGHT...INTO THE 60-85 PERCENT RANGE AFTER MIDNIGHT. RAISED RAIN CHANCES SAT MORNING INTO THE 60-80 PERCENT RANGE OVER THE EAST HALF OF THE FCST AREA. LEFT RAIN CHANCES IN THE 30-50 PERCENT RANGE OVER THE WEST THIRD OF THE FCST AREA SAT MORNING AS BETTER CONSENSUS FOR THE COLD FRONT AND 925-850MB TROUGH AXIS TO BE MOVING EAST OF THE MS RIVER DURING THE MORNING. DRIER AIR AND COLD ADVECTION/SUBSIDENCE TO BE SPREADING INTO THE AREA BEHIND THE SFC-850MB FRONT. QUESTION FOR SAT AFTERNOON BECOMES HOW QUICKLY WILL THE COLUMN COOL ENOUGH FOR ANY PRECIP TO MIX WITH/CHANGE TO SNOW. NAM MOST ROBUST BRINGING IN THE COLD AIR. TEMPS DO FALL DURING THE DAY SAT IN THE STRONG POST FRONTAL COLD ADVECTION BUT MODEL CONSENSUS KEEPS THE BOUNDARY LAYER TEMPS DURING THE AFTERNOON IN THE UPPER 30S/AROUND 40. THIS A BIT WARM FOR A COMPLETE CHANGE TO -SN OR ACCUMULATIONS...GIVEN BULK OF FORCING/LIFT IS NORTH/EAST OF THE AREA AND PRECIP RATES EXPECTED TO BE ON THE LIGHT SIDE BY SAT AFTERNOON. CONTINUED A -RA/-SN MIX FOR MUCH OF THE AREA SAT AFTERNOON. STRONGEST OF SFC-850MB COLD ADVECTION MOVES ACROSS THE AREA SAT MORNING WHILE STRONGEST OF SFC- 925MB GRADIENT WINDS MOVE ACROSS THE AREA CENTERED ON SAT NIGHT. STRONG/GUSTY NORTHWEST WINDS TO SPREAD ACROSS THE AREA SAT/SAT NIGHT BUT AT THIS TIME LOOK TO REMAIN BELOW ADVISORY CRITERIA. DID INCREASE WINDS SAT NIGHT INTO SUN WITH GRADIENT REMAINING TIGHT AND CONTINUING LOW LEVEL COLD ADVECTION OVER THE AREA. BOUNDARY LAYER COOLS ENOUGH FOR ALL SNOW SAT EVENING. NAM/GFS SHOWING MORE WRAP AROUND/DEFORMATION BAND PRECIP ON THE BACK SIDE OF THE SYSTEM WITH A 500MB LOW OVER EASTERN WI/LK MI WHILE MORE OPEN/POSITIVE TILT WAVE SOLUTION OF ECMWF/GEM/UKMET MUCH WEAKER WITH FORCING/LIFT/PRECIP PRODUCTION BEHIND THE TROUGH AXIS SAT NIGHT/SUN MORNING. LEFT BULK OF -SN/-RA CHANCES SAT NIGHT IN THE 20-50 PERCENT RANGE FOR NOW... ONLY CARRYING LIKELY ALONG/NORTH OF HIGHWAY 29 ACROSS CENTRAL WI. DID LINGER A 20 PERCENT -SN CHANCE OVER THE EAST HALF OF THE FCST AREA SUN MORNING TO HONOR NAM/GFS SOLUTIONS. HIGH PRESSURE/SHORTWAVE RIDGING ALOFT BUILD IN FOR LATER SUN/SUN NIGHT. FAVORED A BLEND OF THE NUMERICAL TEMP GUIDANCE FOR MOST LOWS/HIGHS TONIGHT THRU SUN NIGHT. DID FAVOR WARMER OF GUIDANCE LOWS TONIGHT WITH BRISK SOUTH WINDS AND INCREASE OF HIGH CLOUDS AFTER MIDNIGHT. CONTINUED THE TREND OF HIGHS SAT AROUND 15Z THEN FALLING TEMPS BEHIND THE COLD FRONT THE REST OF THE DAY. WITH SFC RIDGE AXIS OVER THE AREA SUN NIGHT FAVORED COOLER OF GUIDANCE LOWS. .LONG TERM...MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY 236 PM CST THU NOV 24 2011 24.00Z MEDIUM RANGE MODELS SHOW QUITE A BIT OF VARIABILITY ALREADY MONDAY WITH THE PROGRESSIVENESS OF THE TROUGHING OVER THE EASTERN CONUS. RUN-TO-RUN CONSISTENCY LEAVES QUITE A BIT TO BE DESIRED TOO. MODELS BETTER/MORE CONSISTENT WITH THE NEXT TROUGH DROPPING INTO THE NORTHERN PLAINS BUT TREND IS A BIT FLATTER/FASTER WITH THIS FEATURE. MODELS REMAIN FASTER/FLATTER WITH THIS FEATURE TUE WITH A TREND TOWARD MORE ZONAL FLOW OVER THE NORTH-CENTRAL AND NORTHWEST CONUS. STILL PLENTY OF DIFFERENCES WITH EAST/SOUTHEAST CONUS LOW. GFS/ECMWF SOLUTIONS DIVERGE FOR WED WITH TIMING ISSUES OF A STRONGER SHORTWAVE THRU BROAD NORTHWEST FLOW OVER WESTERN NOAM. SOLUTIONS TREND MORE SIMILAR WITH A SHORTWAVE TROUGH MOVING ACROSS THE WESTERN GREAT LAKES THU. RUN-TO-RUN CONSISTENCY REMAINS BELOW AVERAGE WED/THU...TIED TO GLOBAL FLOW FORCING MECHANISMS AS DISCUSSED BY MID SHIFT FORECASTER. UNTIL THIS SETTLES DOWN...RUN-TO- RUN CONSISTENCY BEYOND ABOUT DAY 5 CAN BE EXPECTED TO REMAIN BELOW AVERAGE. LONG-TERM FCST CONFIDENCE AGAIN BELOW AVERAGE WITH ALL THE BETWEEN MODEL AND RUN-TO-RUN VARIABILITY...THUS WILL LEAVE DAY 4-7 GRIDS CLOSE TO A THE MODEL/ENSEMBLE CONSENSUS. WITH A DRIER WEST TO NORTHWEST FLOW ALOFT AND MAIN SHORTWAVE ENERGY LOOKING TO PASS NORTH OF THE AREA...DAYS 4-7 TRENDING TO BE A MOSTLY DRY PERIOD. REASONABLE MODEL CONSENSUS FOR A FRONT TO PUSH ACROSS THE AREA MON BUT MOISTURE LIMITED AND SFC FRONT PASSES WELL AHEAD OF THE MID LEVEL TROUGH. CONSENSUS FOR SFC HIGH PRESSURE TO BUILD OVER THE REGION FOR TUE. MAIN SHORTWAVE ENERGY WED OR THU /DEPENDS ON WHICH MODEL WOULD BE MORE CORRECT WITH TIMING/ PASSES NORTH OF THE AREA WITH ANOTHER FRONT TO PUSH ACROSS THE UPPER MIDWEST ONE OF THE DAYS. 24.12Z GFS/ECMWF PUSH A STRONGER TROUGH/FRONT TOWARD/ACROSS THE REGION THU...WITH A SMALL -RA/-SN CHANCE THAT DAY REASONABLE FOR NOW. TEMPERATURES FOR DAYS 4-7 LOOKING TO BE NEAR/A BIT ABOVE NORMAL AND THIS WELL TRENDED WITH THE MODEL CONSENSUS GRIDS. && .AVIATION...THROUGH 06Z SATURDAY 1135 PM CST THU NOV 24 2011 CONCERNS CONTINUE TO BE CENTERED ON LOW LEVEL WIND SHEAR IN THE NEAR TERM AND THEN STRATUS AFTER 12Z FRIDAY. LOW LEVEL JET CONTINUES QUITE STRONG WITH THE KARX VAD WIND PROFILE SHOWING 40 TO 50 KNOTS BETWEEN 2K-3K FEET. WITH SURFACE WINDS ONLY AROUND 10 KNOTS AT KLSE HAVE KEPT THE LOW LEVEL WIND SHEAR IN THE FORECAST THROUGH 15Z FRIDAY AS THE JET THEN DIMINISHES. WINDS CONTINUE TO GUST TO 25 KNOTS AT KRST AND EXPECT THESE TO CONTINUE THROUGH MUCH OF THE NIGHT...BUT GRADIENT DOES RELAX AFTER 12Z AND DID DROP THE GUSTS...BUT SUSTAINED WINDS WILL REMAIN ABOVE 12 KNOTS. AS FOR THE STRATUS AND CEILINGS HEIGHTS. STRATUS WAS CURRENTLY OVER OKLAHOMA ADVECTING NORTHWARD. 25.04Z RUC 1000MB-900MB RELATIVE HUMIDITY PROG HAS A DECENT HANDLE ON THIS MOISTURE...BUT IS A LITTLE TO FAR NORTH WITH IT INITIALLY. BOTH THE RUC AND THE 25.00Z NAM BOTH SHOW THIS MOISTURE ADVECTING NORTHWARD...BUT NOT ARRIVING UNTIL THE 13Z-15Z TIME FRAME. WITH CONSISTENT SIGNAL DID INCLUDE A BROKEN CEILING AT BOTH TAF SITES...BUT FOR NOW KEPT THEM IN THE 010K-015K FOOT RANGE. NEXT SHIFT SHOULD HAVE A BETTER HANDLE ON TIMING AND EXTENT OF THESE CLOUDS. WITH THE COLD FRONT PUSHING CLOSER TO THE AREA BETWEEN 00Z-06Z SATURDAY...DID MENTION VCSH AT BOTH SITES AFTER 03Z WITH A CONTINUATION OF THE MVFR CEILINGS. && .ARX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... 236 PM CST THU NOV 24 2011 WI...NONE. MN...NONE. IA...NONE. && $$ SHORT TERM...RRS LONG TERM....RRS AVIATION...RABERDING
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS DES MOINES IA
552 AM CST FRI NOV 25 2011 ...UPDATED FOR 12Z AVIATION DISCUSSION... .SHORT TERM /TODAY/... STRATUS FIELD IS LIFTING THROUGH EASTERN KS AS LOW LEVEL MOISTURE CONTINUES TO ADVECT NORTHWARD TOWARD IOWA. THE MOISTURE IS CENTERED NEAR 950 MB. THE LATEST RUC 950 MB CONDENSATION PRESSURE DEFICITS ARE HANDLING THE STRATUS PLACEMENT WELL AND SUGGESTS IT WILL SPREAD NORTHEAST OVER MUCH OF CNTRL IA THIS MORNING. CIRRUS WILL ALSO BE THICKENING OVER THE STATE TODAY AND IN COMBINATION WITH THE STRATUS...WILL RESULT IN MOSTLY CLOUDY CONDITIONS. THIS WILL HAVE AN IMPACT ON HIGH TEMPERATURES. READINGS AT 3 AM REMAIN QUITE MILD IN THE MID TO UPPER 40S. ANY SUNSHINE THIS MORNING COULD QUICKLY PUSH READINGS WELL INTO THE 50S. EXPECT CLOUDS TO BECOME PREVALENT BY MID MORNING AND WILL LIMIT TEMPERATURES...THEREFORE HAVE TEMPERED HIGHS FOR TODAY BACK A FEW DEGREES AND MORE INTO THE MID TO UPPER 50S. THIS WILL BE TOO WARM IF THE STRATUS LINGERS ALL DAY. THE INITIAL SHORT WAVE WILL REACH WESTERN IA BY THIS AFTERNOON WITH INCREASING QG FORCING AND THE MID LEVEL DRY AIR SLOWLY ERODING AS EVAPORATING PRECIPITATION FALLS INTO THIS LAYER. POSSIBLE BY VERY LATE AFTERNOON THAT A FEW SPRINKLES OR LIGHT RAIN COULD REACH THE SFC OVER THE FAR WEST CENTRAL AND SOUTHWEST. THEREFORE HAVE ADDED LOW POPS. .LONG TERM /FRIDAY THROUGH THURSDAY/... FORECAST PROBLEM IN THE LONG TERM CONTINUES TO BE THE UPPER TROUGH MOVING THROUGH THE UPPER MIDWEST THIS WEEKEND. A NORTHERN STREAM SHORTWAVE WAS MOVING EAST THROUGH THE NORTHERN ROCKIES THIS MORNING WHILE A WEAKER SOUTHERN STREAM WAVE WAS MOVING THROUGH THE DESERT SOUTHWEST. THE NORTHERN SYSTEM IS FORECAST TO MOVE SOUTHEAST INTO THE CENTRAL UNITED STATES AND DEEPEN BY SATURDAY. THE 00Z GFS/NAM PHASE THE TWO WAVES IN THE CENTRAL STATE AND SIGNIFICANTLY DEEPEN THE TROUGH INTO A CLOSED 500 MB LOW. THE 00Z ECMWF REMAINS CONSISTENT WITH IT/S PREVIOUS RUN KEEPING THE SHORT WAVE ENERGY SEPARATE. AS A RESULT...THE NORTHERN SHORTWAVE REMAINS A POSITIVE TILTED OPEN WAVE. THE GFS/NAM SOLUTIONS HAVE A MUCH DEEPER SURFACE LOW WHICH DEVELOPS NORTHEAST OF CENTRAL IOWA. WITH THE DEEPER SYSTEM...THE WIND FIELDS ARE STRONG. IF THE GFS/NAM SOLUTIONS VERIFY...AT A MINIMUM CENTRAL IOWA SHOULD HAVE A DECENT WIND EVENT AND SOME LIGHT SNOW DUE TO THE STRONGER FORCING. IF THE WEAKER LOOKING ECMWF VERIFIES...IT WOULD BE WINDY...BUT PROBABLY BELOW ADVISORY CRITERIA AND LESS SNOW CHANCES. BASED THE FORECAST ON A COMPROMISE BETWEEN THESE VARIED SOLUTIONS. NO HEADLINES FOR WIND AT THIS POINT...BUT WILL MENTION WINDY CONDITIONS IN THE HWO. WILL ALSO MENTION THE POSSIBILITY OF LIGHT SNOW...ESPECIALLY NORTH...BUT ACCUMULATIONS SHOULD BE LIGHT. MOISTURE STEAMING NORTHEAST AHEAD OF THE FRONT TONIGHT ALONG WITH A LARGE AREA OF UPWARD FORCING AHEAD OF THE UPPER TROUGH SUPPORTS HIGH POPS FOR RAIN TONIGHT. ANOTHER COLD FRONT SHOULD MOVE THROUGH THE STATE LATE MONDAY. LACK OF SIGNIFICANT FORCING AND MOISTURE SHOULD KEEP IT DRY. THE 00Z ECMWF IS ADVERTISING A STRONGER COLD FRONT LATE NEXT WEEK. CONFIDENCE ON THE TIMING OF THE FRONTS IS LOW DUE TO MODEL DIFFERENCES NEXT WEEK BETWEEN THE ECMWF AND THE OPERATIONAL GFS. && .AVIATION...25/12Z MVFR TO IFR STRATUS HAS BEEN RAPIDLY ADVANCING NORTHEAST THROUGH EASTERN KANSAS OVERNIGHT. THIS BAND SHOULD OVERSPREAD ALL SITES THROUGH 15Z. SOME UNCERTAINTY IF THE STRATUS WILL MAINTAIN THROUGH THE AFTERNOON ESPECIALLY OVER THE WRN AND SRN SITES. HAVE OPTED TO HOLD IT THROUGH THE DAY. EVEN IF IT BREAKS...THE STRATUS SHOULD REDEVELOP EARLY THIS EVENING. RAIN SHOULD DEVELOP OVERNIGHT AS WELL. A COLD FRONT WILL ARRIVE THROUGH THE WESTERN SITES AFTER 09Z BRINGING GUSTY NORTHWEST WINDS. && .DMX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...NONE. && $$ SHORT TERM...DONAVON LONG TERM...JOHNSON AVIATION...DONAVON
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS MARQUETTE MI
652 AM EST FRI NOV 25 2011 UPDATED AVIATION DISCUSSION FOR 12Z TAFS .SYNOPSIS... 00Z RAOBS/LATEST WV IMAGERY AND RUC ANALYSIS SHOW PERSISTENT UPR RDGING IN PLACE OVER NAMERICA DOWNSTREAM OF TROFFING OVER THE PAC NW AND WRN CAN. CLOSER TO THE SFC...THE UPR GRT LKS ARE DOMINATED BY A STRONG SW FLOW BTWN HI PRES IN THE MID ATLANTIC STATES AND LO PRES OVER NRN ONTARIO. GRAND MARAIS IN ALGER COUNTY REPORTED SW WIND GUSTS UP TO 37 MPH AT 0330Z. THE 00Z INL AND MPX RAOBS ARE QUITE DRY /IN FACT...THE 00Z H7 DEWPT DEPRESSION AT ABERDEEN SDAKOTA WAS 42C/...SO NOTHING BUT HI CLDS ARE PRESENT ALONG AND AHEAD OF ATTENDANT COLD FNT EXTENDING FM THE ONTARIO LO THRU NW MN INTO NDAKOTA. MORE EXTENSIVE LO CLDS FOLLOW THE FROPA OVER NW NDAKOTA AND SCNTRL CAN WITH SHALLOW COLD AIR INFUSION. OVER THE E HALF OF THE CWA...LLVL MSTR DEPICTED ON THE 00Z GRB RAOB BLO SHARP INVRN BASE NEAR H95 HAS RESULTED IN EXTENSIVE LO CLD. OTRW TEMPS ARE WELL ABV NORMAL FOR THE SEASON...WITH 00Z H85 TEMPS RANGING FM 13C AT GRB AND INL TO 15C AT MPX. SFC TEPS ARE STILL WELL INTO THE 40S AT MANY PLACES EARLY THIS MRNG...10 TO 15 DEGREES ABV THE NORMAL HI TEMPS FOR THE DATE. WELL TO THE W... WV IMAGERY INDICATES A STRONGER SHRTWV IS APRCHG THE PAC NW...WHERE 12Z-24Z H3 FALLS UP TO 100M OCCURRED. && .DISCUSSION... MAIN FCST CONCERNS SHIFT FM LO CLDS/WELL ABV NORMAL TEMPS TDAY TO PCPN CHCS TNGT THRU THE WEEKEND. TDAY...SFC HI PRES OVER THE MID ATLANTIC IS PROGGED TO DRIFT OFF THE SE COAST WHILE LO PRES NOW OVER NRN ONTARIO WL DRIFT ACRS QUEBEC... DRAGGING ATTENDANT COLD FNT INTO THE CWA DURING THE AFTN. ALTHOUGH SFC TEMPS WL BE HELD DOWN ESPECIALLY OVER THE NW WITH THE ARRIVAL OF LLVL COLDER AIR/ARRIVAL OF MORE LO CLDS BEHIND THE FROPA...READINGS WL STILL BE WELL ABV NORMAL...ESPECIALLY OVER THE SCNTRL WHERE THE LO CLDS ARE MORE LIKELY TO BREAK UP. THE SW FLOW OFF LK MI THRU THE DAY AND LO SUN ANGLE WL LIKELY RESULT IN A PERSISTENCE OF THE LO CLD OVER THE E EVEN THOUGH THE STRONGER SW WINDS OBSVD EARLY THIS MRNG WL DIMINISH QUICKLY AS THE PRES GRADIENT SLACKENS. ALTHOUGH SOME MODELS GENERATE LGT PCPN OVER THE CWA WITH THE COLD FROPA...PREFER THE DRY NAM GIVEN THE EXCESSIVE MID LVL DRYNESS OBSVD UPSTREAM. TNGT...STRONGER SHRTWV NOW MOVING INTO THE PAC NW IS FCST TO DEEPEN UPR TROF IN THE PLAINS...WITH SFC LO PRES DVLPG OVER NW WI ON STALLED FNT THAT WL REMAIN ACRS THE CWA. ALTHOUGH LINGERING MID LVL DRY AIR WL LIMIT PCPN CHCS IN THE EVNG...EXPANDING DEEP LYR QVECTOR CNVGC/UPR DVGC/SHARPENING H85-7 FGEN ASSOCIATED WITH APRCHG SHRTWV/ EXIT REGION OF ACCOMPANYING 120KT H3 JET MAX WL INCRS RA CHCS ESPECIALLY OVER THE SW HALF LATER. TENDED TOWARD THE SOMEWHAT WETTER 00Z GFS/12Z ECMWF GIVEN APPARENT STRENGTH OF SHRTWV NOW APRCHG THE PAC NW. SAT...MODEL DISCREPANCIES BECOME MORE PRONOUNCED WITH THE HANDLING OF THE DVLPG LO...SO CONFIDENCE IN THE FCST WL DIMINISH. GIVEN APPARENT STRENGHT OF INCOMING SHRTWV AS MENTIONED ABOVE...TENDED TOWARD THE DEEPER 00Z NAM/GFS SCENARIOS THAT SHOW CUTOFF H5 LO FORMING SOMEWHERE OVER THE UPR MS RIVER VALLEY/UPR MIDWEST. HOWEVER...NCEP PREFERENCE FOR THE WEAKER SOLNS SHOWN BY THE 12Z ECMWF AND 00Z CNDN LOWER CONFIDENCE FURTHER. FORTUNATELY...THERE IS RELATIVELY LTL DIFFERENCE IN THE SFC LO PLACEMENT AMONG THE VARIOUS MODELS DESPITE THE DIFFERENCES IN INTENSITY. MODELS SHOW SFC LO MOVING TO NEAR MQT BY 00Z SUN. ALTHOUGH DRY SLOTTING TO THE E OF THE H5 LO WL LIKELY RESULT IN A DIMINISHING TREND OF THE PCPN OVER MAINLY THE CNTRL AND E...EXPECT HEAVIER PCPN TO LINGER OVER THE W FM IWD-CMX THRU THE DAY CLOSER TO THE TRACK OF THE ACCOMPANYING H85 LO. PER GFS FCST WBLB ZERO HGT FCST TO FALL NEAR 1K FT AGL BY 00Z SUN...EXPECT ENUF COLD AIR TO ARRIVE LATE IN THE DAY TO RESULT IN AT LEAST A MIX OF RA/SN NEAR IWD UNDER THE SHARPER CYC NLY FLOW. SAT NGT THRU SUN...VARIOUS MODELS SHOW SFC LO DRIFTING SLOWLY TO THE NE TO SSE OF JAMES BAY BY LATE IN THE DAY SUN. THE NAM BECOMES A PARTICULAR OUTLIER SHOWING THE LO LINGERING NEAR UPR MI...SO REJECTED THIS FCST. THE OTHER PREFERRED MODELS SUG PCPN WITHIN COMMA HEAD MSTR UNDER SHARPER NNW CYC FLOW/H85 THERMAL TROFFING WL IMPACT MAINLY THE NW HALF AND SLOWLY CHG TO SN AS COLDER AIR MOVES OVHD... WITH BOTH THE 00Z GFS/12Z ECMWF INDICATING H85 TEMPS FALLING TO ARND -9C...LO ENUF FOR LK EFFECT PCPN CONSIDERING LK SUP TEMPS ARND 5C. HOWEVER...EVEN THE DEEPER GFS SUGS SN GROWTH MICROPHYSICS WL NOT BE VERY FVRBL GIVEN FCST WEAK UVV IN THE DENDRITIC SN GROWTH ZN. EVEN SO...SOME LO END ADVY SN AMNTS MAY BE PSBL OVER THE W WITH LK ENHANCEMENT AS THE SN SHOULD BE WET AND HEAVY. THE NEW 00Z ECMWF INDICATES GOOD CONTINUITY WITH THE 12Z RUN...BUT SHOWS QUICKER DRYING ON SUN WITH A WEAKER CYC FLOW/FASTER EXIT THAN INDICATED BY THE DEEPER GFS. TENDED TOWARD HIER POPS OVER THE W TO THE HURON MTNS WHERE THE UPSLOPE NNW FLOW WOULD HAVE A MORE SGNFT IMPACT AS HINTED BY THE 00Z CNDN MODEL. EXPECT A DRYING TREND W-E ON SUN NGT WITH THE ARRIVAL OF A HI PRES RDG. EXTENDED RANGE...EXPECT A MORE SEASONABLY CHILLY PATTERN WITH NW FLOW ALF ALLOWING FOR FREQUENT SHRTWV PASSAGES/POTENTIAL LES EPISODES. MADE FEW CHGS TO ALL BLEND FCST NUMBERS. && .AVIATION /FOR THE 12Z TAF ISSUANCE/... ANOTHER DIFFICULT TAF FORECAST...AS LOW CLOUDS HAVE SPREAD OVER CENTRAL AND EASTERN UPPER MICHIGAN. WITH THE LIGHT UPSLOPE FLOW AT KSAW...EXPECT THE VLIFR CIGS/VSBYS TO CONTINUE THROUGH THE MORNING. DIURNAL TRENDS WILL TRY TO RAISE CIGS...BUT WITH WINDS WEAKENING THROUGH THE DAY...HAVE A TOUGH TIME BELIEVING THEY WILL EXIT LIKE YESTERDAY. AS FOR KIWD/KCMX...EXPECT JUST HIGH CLOUDS TO AFFECT BOTH SITES THIS MORNING. LIMITED CONFIDENCE ON MVFR CIGS MOVING IN...BUT THINK IT WILL BE IN THE AFTN WITH SFC TROUGH PUSHING THROUGH. ALL SITES SHOULD SEE LOWERING CIGS/VSBYS DURING THE NIGHT...WITH -RA AT KIWD/KCMX...AS A LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM APPROACHES. && .MARINE /FOR THE 4AM LAKE SUPERIOR FORECAST ISSUANCE/... A SURFACE TROUGH STALLING OVER LAKE SUPERIOR TODAY WILL BRING A DIMINISHING TREND TO THE WINDS THROUGH MUCH OF THE DAY. A LOW DEVELOPING ALONG THE SURFACE TROUGH IN THE CENTRAL PLAINS TODAY...WILL BEGIN TO MOVE NORTHEAST TONIGHT AND OVER CENTRAL UPPER MICHIGAN ON SATURDAY. EXPECT INCREASING EAST TO NORTHEAST WINDS LATE THIS AFTERNOON OVER THE WEST AND THE REST OVER THE AREA TONIGHT...WITH GUSTS UP TO 30KTS OVER THE NORTH HALF OF THE LAKE TONIGHT. AS THE LOW MOVES EAST ON SATURDAY NIGHT...NORTH GALES OF 35KTS ARE EXPECTED OVER WEST CENTRAL LAKE SUPERIOR. THE GALES SHOULD SPREAD EAST ON SUNDAY AS WINDS SHIFT TO THE NORTHWEST...BEFORE DIMINISHING BELOW 20KTS ON SUNDAY NIGHT AS HIGH PRESSURE MOVES OVER LAKE SUPERIOR. A SURFACE TROUGH MOVING ACROSS LAKE SUPERIOR ON MONDAY AFTERNOON AND EVENING WILL PROVIDE ANOTHER PERIOD OF STRONG SOUTHWEST WINDS...WITH THE POTENTIAL OF NORTHWEST GALES TO 35KTS BEHIND THE TROUGH MONDAY NIGHT AND TUESDAY MORNING. && .MQT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... UPPER MICHIGAN... NONE. LAKE SUPERIOR... GALE WATCH FROM SATURDAY EVENING THROUGH SUNDAY AFTERNOON FOR LSZ263-264. LAKE MICHIGAN... NONE. && $$ SYNOPSIS...KC DISCUSSION...KC AVIATION...SRF MARINE...SRF
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NWS LA CROSSE WI
551 AM CST FRI NOV 25 2011 .SHORT TERM...TODAY THROUGH MONDAY 301 AM CST FRI NOV 25 2011 BIG CHANGES COMING OVER THE NEXT FEW DAYS AS RAIN STARTS UP TONIGHT AHEAD OF A COLD FRONT WHICH WILL KNOCK TEMPERATURES DOWN ON SATURDAY. BEYOND THIS...THERE IS MUCH UNCERTAINTY FOR SATURDAY NIGHT INTO SUNDAY WITH WHETHER AN ACCUMULATING SNOW WILL OCCUR. CURRENTLY...MILD CONDITIONS WERE OBSERVED ACROSS THE REGION DUE TO GUSTY SOUTH TO SOUTHWEST WINDS AT THE SURFACE AHEAD OF A COLD FRONT THAT EXTENDS FROM SOUTHWEST ONTARIO THROUGH NORTHERN MINNESOTA ON INTO CENTRAL SOUTH DAKOTA. FURTHER ALOFT...GENERAL SOUTHWEST FLOW AHEAD OF TROUGHING DUE TO A NORTHERN AND SOUTHERN STREAM LOW WAS HELPING TO ADVECT MID TO HIGH LEVEL CLOUDS INTO THE REGION. AS THE SOUTHERN STREAM TROUGH PROPAGATES EAST INTO THE SOUTHERN PLAINS THIS MORNING...LOW LEVEL MOISTURE ADVECTION WILL BE ON THE INCREASE AS A SURFACE LOW DEEPENS ACROSS THE NORTHERN PLAINS. AS A RESULT...ANOTHER LOW LEVEL STRATUS DECK IS EXPECTED TO DEVELOP NORTHWARD THIS MORNING FROM THE SOUTHERN PLAINS. THE LATEST IR SCANS AT 8Z SHOWS THE LEADING EDGE OF THIS STRATUS NEAR EMPORIA KANSAS...WHICH CORRELATES WELL TO THE 25.07Z RUC 950-900MB LAYER RH. THIS RUN OF THE RUC SHOWS THE HIGHER RH VALUES INCREASING RAPIDLY THIS MORNING ACROSS THE SOUTHEASTERN HALF OF IOWA TOWARD THE NORTHERN HALF OF LAKE MICHIGAN BY 18Z TODAY. 25.07Z RUC AND 25.00Z NAM/GFS SOUNDINGS FROM ACROSS THE REGION SHOW THIS HIGHER RH BEING TRAPPED UNDER A STOUT 900-850MB INVERSION AND THEREFORE HAVE GONE WITH A MORE PESSIMISTIC CLOUD FORECAST TODAY. THIS CLOUD COVER WILL LIMIT HOW MUCH WARMING CAN OCCUR INTO THE AFTERNOON WITH THE HIGHS LIKELY COMING THIS MORNING. AFTER THE STRATUS FILLS IN...THE NEXT QUESTION IS WHEN WILL THE RAIN START UP TONIGHT. 25.00Z NAM AND GFS SOUNDINGS SHOW A DECENT DRY LAYER CENTERED ON 800MB THAT WILL NEED TO BE OVERCOME FOR ANY PRECIPITATION TO MAKE IT DOWN TO THE GROUND. BASED ON THESE SOUNDINGS AND MID LEVEL QG FORCING FIELDS...IT APPEARS THAT THE DEEP MOISTURE AND FORCING COMES TOGETHER LATER TONIGHT AHEAD OF THE SURFACE COLD FRONT AND MID LEVEL TROUGH. THE THERMAL PROFILE WILL BE WARM ENOUGH FOR THIS PRECIPITATION TO BE IN ALL LIQUID FORM THROUGH SATURDAY MORNING BEFORE THE FRONT COMES THROUGH. AFTER THE FRONT COMES THROUGH THE REGION SATURDAY MORNING INTO EARLY SATURDAY AFTERNOON...UNCERTAINTY TAKES OVER WITH WHAT WILL OCCUR SATURDAY NIGHT INTO SUNDAY. THE ONE THING THAT APPEARS TO BE CERTAIN IS THAT COLDER AIR WILL ADVECT INTO THE REGION IN THE LOW LEVELS BRINGING MUCH OF THE THERMAL PROFILE TO BELOW FREEZING AND SUPPORTIVE OF SNOW BEING THE PRECIPITATION TYPE. THE MAIN UNCERTAINTY LIES WITH THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE US AND NON-US MODEL SOLUTIONS WITH THE STRENGTH AND TRACK OF THE TROUGH. BASED ON INPUT FROM HPC/S MODEL DIAGNOSTICS DESK...THE UNFAVORED SOLUTION IS THE 25.00Z NAM/GFS AND 24.21Z SREF MEAN WHICH PRODUCE A DEEPER...CLOSED OFF MID LEVEL LOW WHICH BRINGS THE DEFORMATION AXIS THROUGH THE HEART OF THE FORECAST AREA. THESE SOLUTIONS WOULD LIKELY LEAD TO AN ACCUMULATING SNOW ACROSS MUCH OF THE REGION. THESE MODELS ALSO DEVELOPS A VERY TIGHT PRESSURE GRADIENT IN THE LOW LEVEL COLD AIR ADVECTION POCKET ON THE SOUTHWEST SIDE OF THE SURFACE LOW WHICH WOULD BRING GUSTS UP NEAR ADVISORY CRITERIA. HOWEVER...AT THIS POINT THE FAVORED SOLUTION FOR SATURDAY NIGHT INTO SUNDAY IS WITH THE 25.00Z ECMWF/UKMET/CANADIAN MODELS. THESE FORMS OF GUIDANCE ALL SHOW A MUCH LESS AMPLIFIED...OPEN MID LEVEL WAVE WITH HARDLY ANY SNOW COMING THROUGH SATURDAY NIGHT. BASED ON THIS INPUT FROM HPC ...HAVE BACKED OFF ON THE PROBABILITY FOR PRECIPITATION AND THE WIND GUSTS JUST A TAD ON SATURDAY NIGHT. FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THIS FAVORED TREND...PLEASE SEE THE LATEST PMDHMD FROM HPC. COLD AIR WILL REMAIN IN PLACE UNTIL MONDAY WHEN A BRIEF SHOT OF LOW LEVEL WARM AIR ADVECTION COMES THROUGH THE REGION. .LONG TERM...MONDAY NIGHT THROUGH THURSDAY NIGHT 301 AM CST FRI NOV 25 2011 NOT A WHOLE LOT OF CONFIDENCE GOING INTO THE EXTENDED PERIOD DUE TO THE ISSUES THIS WEEKEND...BUT HAVE TRENDED TOWARD THE 25.00Z ECMWF/GEM/UKMET FORECAST WHICH CUT OFF A MID LEVEL LOW ALONG THE GULF COAST EARLY NEXT WEEK AND SLOWLY BRINGS IT TOWARD THE NORTHEASTERN US INTO MID WEEK. THIS SETUP WILL KEEP THE REGION IN A COOL NORTHWESTERLY FLOW ALOFT AND LIMIT ANY KIND OF WARMING TRENDS. NOT MUCH IN THE WAY OF PRECIPITATION CHANCES EXCEPT FOR AN OPEN MID LEVEL TROUGH THAT DIVES SOUTHEAST TOWARD THE GREAT LAKES ON THURSDAY WHICH COULD BRING SOME PRECIPITATION WITH IT. && .AVIATION...THROUGH 12Z SATURDAY 551 AM CST FRI NOV 25 2011 IMMEDIATE CONCERN THIS MORNING DEALS WITH LLWS AT KLSE WITH WINDS AROUND 35-45KT AROUND 2000FT AGL AND WINDS BELOW 5KT AT THE SURFACE AS OF 12Z. LOW LEVEL JET AND THUS LLWS EXPECTED TO SLACKEN THIS MORNING BY 14Z. CONCERN THEN SHIFTS TO SOUTHERLY FLOW ADVECTING MVFR/IFR STRATUS INTO THE AREA LATER THIS MORNING FROM THE CENTRAL PLAINS. HAVE CIGS GOING BKN AROUND 800 FEET AT KRST BY 16Z AND AROUND 1200 FEET AT KLSE AT THE SAME TIME. FOR TONIGHT...WILL BE WATCHING A LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM AND COLD FRONT PUSHING EASTWARD INTO THE AREA...SPREADING SCATTERED SHOWERS IN THIS EVENING...AND MORE WIDESPREAD RAIN/AREAS OF FOG IN AFTER MIDNIGHT. IFR CONDITIONS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE AT KRST WHILE MVFR CONDITIONS AT KLSE EXPECTED TO DETERIORATE INTO IFR AFTER 08Z. && .CLIMATE...FOR TODAY 301 AM CST FRI NOV 25 2011 RECORD HIGHEST LOWS MAY BE BROKEN TODAY AT BOTH ROCHESTER AND LA CROSSE WITH TEMPERATURES THIS MORNING FAIRLY MILD IN THE UPPER 40S TO AROUND 50. THE RECORD HIGHEST LOW TEMPERATURE FOR ROCHESTER TODAY IS 37 FROM 1915. THE RECORD HIGHEST LOW TEMPERATURE FOR LA CROSSE TODAY IS 42 IN 1998. FORECAST TEMPERATURES AT MIDNIGHT TONIGHT ARE EXPECTED TO BE ABOVE THESE VALUES. && .ARX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... 301 AM CST FRI NOV 25 2011 WI...NONE. MN...NONE. IA...NONE. && $$ SHORT TERM...HALBACH LONG TERM...HALBACH AVIATION...RABERDING CLIMATE...HALBACH
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NWS SAN FRANCISCO BAY AREA
241 PM PST FRI NOV 25 2011 .DISCUSSION...AS OF 2:35 PM PST FRIDAY...RATHER MUNDANE WEATHER PATTERN SETTING UP OVER THE REGION THROUGH NEXT WEEK WITH A WARMING TREND. DESPITE A SOMEWHAT DAMP START THIS MORNING WITH LIGHT RAIN...PRECIP ENDED BY MORNING WITH SOME SCATTERED OF CLOUDS. HOWEVER...SAN FRANCISCO BAY NORTHWARD CONTINUES TO STRUGGLE FOR SUNSHINE. AS A RESULT...MANY LOCATIONS ARE REMAINING RATHER COOL. DO EXPECT SOME THINNING OF THE CLOUD COVER OVER THE NEXT FEW HOURS WITH AN UPTICK IN TEMPERATURE. MOUNTAIN VIEW SOUTHWARD ON THE THE OTHER HAND IS CURRENTLY EXPERIENCING WALL TO WALL SUNSHINE WITH TEMPERATURES IN THE 60S. SHORT TERM(TONIGHT-MONDAY)... THE FRONTAL BOUNDARY FROM THIS MORNING WILL CONTINUE TO DISSIPATE THIS EVENING. THE MAIN WEATHER CONCERN FOR TONIGHT WILL BE RESIDUAL BOUNDARY LAYER MOISTURE AIDING IN FOG DEVELOPMENT. FOR NOW...WILL KEEP PATCHY DENSE FOG POSS FOR PORTIONS OF THE EAST BAY AND INTO THE DELTA AS A RESULT OF POSS CENTRAL VALLEY FOG. NORTH BAY WILL HAVE A CHANCE FOR PATCHY FOG AS WELL...BUT PROBABLY NOT AS DENSE. IF THE CLOUD COVER CURRENTLY OVER THE NORTH BAY DOES NOT DISSIPATE FOG DEVELOPMENT MAY BE HAMPERED. LOCATIONS OVER THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE CWA ARE LESS LIKELY TO SEE VALLEY FOG. FLOW OVER THIS REGION APPEARS TO BE SLIGHTLY OFFSHORE AT 925 MB AND BOUNDARY LAYER MOISTURE IS LESS. OTHERWISE...LITTLE CHANGE WAS MADE TO THE SHORT TERM FORECAST. THE LONG WAVE PATTERN CONTINUES TO SHOW A DECENT RIDGE OF HIGH PRESSURE BUILDING OVER THE REGION. A GRADUAL WARMING AND DRYING TREND CAN BE EXPECTED. BY SUNDAY AND MONDAY...MODEL GUIDANCE EVEN INDICATES 850 TEMPS 16.5-18 C. THEREFORE HAVE RAISED TEMPERATURES SLIGHT FOR MAX TEMPS. HOWEVER...DO NOT EXPECT FULL POTENTIAL OF 18C TO REALIZED GIVEN THE REDUCE AMOUNT OF INSOLATION THIS TIME OF YEAR. LONG TERM(TUESDAY-FRIDAY)... THE MILD WEATHER HOLDS ON FOR TUESDAY AND PART OF WEDNESDAY AS HIGH PRESSURE REMAIN. MEDIUM RANGE MODELS BREAK DOWN THE RIDGE AS A LOW BEGINS TO DROP S OVER THE PAC NW. THERE ARE DIFFERENCE AMONGST THE MODELS...BUT ALL SUGGEST COOLER WEATHER. THE REAL QUESTION WILL BE IF THERE IS ANY PRECIP WITH THE PASSING UPPER LOW FROM THE N OR THE CUT OFF LOW OFF THE COAST? CURRENT FORECAST WILL REMAIN DRY BUT THE ECMWF DOES INDICATE A FEW HUNDREDTHS POSS NEXT THURSDAY. && .AVIATION...AS OF 9:35 AM PST FRIDAY...A LARGE AREA OF STRATUS WILL CONTINUE TO IMPACT KSJC NORTHWARD THROUGH AT LEAST 19Z. THE NAM...WRF...AND HRRR INDICATE CLEARING AT THE AIRPORTS ANYWHERE FROM 19Z TO 21Z...SO THERE IS AN INCREASED CONFIDENCE THAT THERE WILL BE SUNNY SKIES THIS AFTERNOON. OTHERWISE...NEARLY STAGNANT FLOW OVER THE REGION WILL BRING LIGHT AND VARIABLE WINDS. A FEW OF THE SHORT TERM MODELS ARE HINTING AT GROUND FOG FORMING OVERNIGHT...LOW CONFIDENCE. VICINITY OF KSFO...MVFR CIGS AROUND 1500 FEET WILL PREVAIL THROUGH AT LEAST 19Z. MODERATE CONFIDENCE. LIGHT AND VARIABLE WINDS THIS AFTERNOON. POSSIBLE LOW CLOUDS OR GROUND FOG OVERNIGHT AT BOTH TERMINALS. LOW CONFIDENCE. KSFO BRIDGE APPROACH...MVFR CIGS THROUGH 20Z. OTHERWISE...SIMILAR TO KSFO. MONTEREY BAY AREA TERMINALS...VFR CONDITIONS WILL PREVAIL THROUGH AT LEAST 01Z. SHORT TERM MODELS INDICATE PATCHY GROUND FOG WILL DEVELOP LATE THIS EVENING INTO THE OVERNIGHT HOURS. LOW CONFIDENCE. && .MTR WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... .TDAY...SCA...PT ARENA TO PIGEON PT 10-60 NM SCA...PIGEON PT TO PT PIEDRAS BLANCAS 10-60 NM SCA...ROUGH BAR ADVISORY FOR SF BAR && $$ PUBLIC FORECAST: MM AVIATION/MARINE: RILEY
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NWS SAN FRANCISCO BAY AREA
939 AM PST FRI NOV 25 2011 .DISCUSSION...AS OF 8:33 AM PST FRIDAY...THE MAIN WEATHER FEATURE OF NOTE THIS MORNING IS A WEAK DISSIPATING COLD FRONT CURRENTLY DRAPED OVER THE BAY AREA. AS NOTED EARLIER THIS MORNING...THERE IS LITTLE FANFARE ASSOCIATED WITH THE COLD FRONT OTHER THAN VERY LIGHT RAIN. IN FACT...THE PRECIP IS VERY SHALLOW WITH NO RADAR RETURNS. HOWEVER...AUTOMATED GAUGES INDICATE A FEW HUNDREDTHS OVER THE LAST SIX HOURS AND A HUNDREDTH OR TWO OVER THE LAST HOUR. ALL RAINFALL HAS BE OBSERVED NORTH OF GILROY. THE COLD FRONT ALSO HELPED TO INCREASE THE BOUNDARY LAYER RH WHICH HAS RESULTED IN SOME PATCHY FOG AROUND SF BAY AND THE N BAY VALLEYS. WILL DO A MORNING UPDATE TO FRESHEN UP THE WORDING WITH VALLEY FOG AND TO REMOVE IT IN THE SALINAS VALLEY. OTHERWISE...THE COLD FRONT WILL CONTINUE TO WASH OUT OVER THE CWA WITH A GRADUAL CLEARING THROUGH THE AFTERNOON. TEMPERATURES WILL REMAIN SEASONABLE COOL AND IN THE LOWER 60S. THERE AFTER...A RATHER BENIGN WEATHER PATTERN WILL BE ESTABLISHED ACROSS MUCH OF CALIFORNIA AS STRONG HIGH PRESSURE BUILDS IN THROUGH NEXT WEEK. A GRADUAL WARMING TREND CAN BE EXPECT THROUGH WEEKEND WITH NIGHT AND MORNING VALLEY FOG. && .AVIATION...AS OF 9:35 AM PST FRIDAY...A LARGE AREA OF STRATUS WILL CONTINUE TO IMPACT KSJC NORTHWARD THROUGH AT LEAST 19Z. THE NAM...WRF...AND HRRR INDICATE CLEARING AT THE AIRPORTS ANYWHERE FROM 19Z TO 21Z...SO THERE IS AN INCREASED CONFIDENCE THAT THERE WILL BE SUNNY SKIES THIS AFTERNOON. OTHERWISE...NEARLY STAGNANT FLOW OVER THE REGION WILL BRING LIGHT AND VARIABLE WINDS. A FEW OF THE SHORT TERM MODELS ARE HINTING AT GROUND FOG FORMING OVERNIGHT...LOW CONFIDENCE. VICINITY OF KSFO...MVFR CIGS AROUND 1500 FEET WILL PREVAIL THROUGH AT LEAST 19Z. MODERATE CONFIDENCE. LIGHT AND VARIABLE WINDS THIS AFTERNOON. POSSIBLE LOW CLOUDS OR GROUND FOG OVERNIGHT AT BOTH TERMINALS. LOW CONFIDENCE. KSFO BRIDGE APPROACH...MVFR CIGS THROUGH 20Z. OTHERWISE...SIMILAR TO KSFO. MONTEREY BAY AREA TERMINALS...VFR CONDITIONS WILL PREVAIL THROUGH AT LEAST 01Z. SHORT TERM MODELS INDICATE PATCHY GROUND FOG WILL DEVELOP LATE THIS EVENING INTO THE OVERNIGHT HOURS. LOW CONFIDENCE. && .MTR WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... .TDAY...SCA...PT ARENA TO PIGEON PT 10-60 NM SCA...PIGEON PT TO PT PIEDRAS BLANCAS 10-60 NM SCA...ROUGH BAR ADVISORY FOR SF BAR UNTIL 3 PM && $$ PUBLIC FORECAST: MM AVIATION/MARINE: RILEY
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NWS DES MOINES IA
1145 AM CST FRI NOV 25 2011 ...UPDATED FOR 18Z AVIATION DISCUSSION... .SHORT TERM /TODAY/... STRATUS FIELD IS LIFTING THROUGH EASTERN KS AS LOW LEVEL MOISTURE CONTINUES TO ADVECT NORTHWARD TOWARD IOWA. THE MOISTURE IS CENTERED NEAR 950 MB. THE LATEST RUC 950 MB CONDENSATION PRESSURE DEFICITS ARE HANDLING THE STRATUS PLACEMENT WELL AND SUGGESTS IT WILL SPREAD NORTHEAST OVER MUCH OF CNTRL IA THIS MORNING. CIRRUS WILL ALSO BE THICKENING OVER THE STATE TODAY AND IN COMBINATION WITH THE STRATUS...WILL RESULT IN MOSTLY CLOUDY CONDITIONS. THIS WILL HAVE AN IMPACT ON HIGH TEMPERATURES. READINGS AT 3 AM REMAIN QUITE MILD IN THE MID TO UPPER 40S. ANY SUNSHINE THIS MORNING COULD QUICKLY PUSH READINGS WELL INTO THE 50S. EXPECT CLOUDS TO BECOME PREVALENT BY MID MORNING AND WILL LIMIT TEMPERATURES...THEREFORE HAVE TEMPERED HIGHS FOR TODAY BACK A FEW DEGREES AND MORE INTO THE MID TO UPPER 50S. THIS WILL BE TOO WARM IF THE STRATUS LINGERS ALL DAY. THE INITIAL SHORT WAVE WILL REACH WESTERN IA BY THIS AFTERNOON WITH INCREASING QG FORCING AND THE MID LEVEL DRY AIR SLOWLY ERODING AS EVAPORATING PRECIPITATION FALLS INTO THIS LAYER. POSSIBLE BY VERY LATE AFTERNOON THAT A FEW SPRINKLES OR LIGHT RAIN COULD REACH THE SFC OVER THE FAR WEST CENTRAL AND SOUTHWEST. THEREFORE HAVE ADDED LOW POPS. .LONG TERM /TONIGHT THROUGH THURSDAY/... FORECAST PROBLEM IN THE LONG TERM CONTINUES TO BE THE UPPER TROUGH MOVING THROUGH THE UPPER MIDWEST THIS WEEKEND. A NORTHERN STREAM SHORTWAVE WAS MOVING EAST THROUGH THE NORTHERN ROCKIES THIS MORNING WHILE A WEAKER SOUTHERN STREAM WAVE WAS MOVING THROUGH THE DESERT SOUTHWEST. THE NORTHERN SYSTEM IS FORECAST TO MOVE SOUTHEAST INTO THE CENTRAL UNITED STATES AND DEEPEN BY SATURDAY. THE 00Z GFS/NAM PHASE THE TWO WAVES IN THE CENTRAL STATE AND SIGNIFICANTLY DEEPEN THE TROUGH INTO A CLOSED 500 MB LOW. THE 00Z ECMWF REMAINS CONSISTENT WITH IT/S PREVIOUS RUN KEEPING THE SHORT WAVE ENERGY SEPARATE. AS A RESULT...THE NORTHERN SHORTWAVE REMAINS A POSITIVE TILTED OPEN WAVE. THE GFS/NAM SOLUTIONS HAVE A MUCH DEEPER SURFACE LOW WHICH DEVELOPS NORTHEAST OF CENTRAL IOWA. WITH THE DEEPER SYSTEM...THE WIND FIELDS ARE STRONG. IF THE GFS/NAM SOLUTIONS VERIFY...AT A MINIMUM CENTRAL IOWA SHOULD HAVE A DECENT WIND EVENT AND SOME LIGHT SNOW DUE TO THE STRONGER FORCING. IF THE WEAKER LOOKING ECMWF VERIFIES...IT WOULD BE WINDY...BUT PROBABLY BELOW ADVISORY CRITERIA AND LESS SNOW CHANCES. BASED THE FORECAST ON A COMPROMISE BETWEEN THESE VARIED SOLUTIONS. NO HEADLINES FOR WIND AT THIS POINT...BUT WILL MENTION WINDY CONDITIONS IN THE HWO. WILL ALSO MENTION THE POSSIBILITY OF LIGHT SNOW...ESPECIALLY NORTH...BUT ACCUMULATIONS SHOULD BE LIGHT. MOISTURE STEAMING NORTHEAST AHEAD OF THE FRONT TONIGHT ALONG WITH A LARGE AREA OF UPWARD FORCING AHEAD OF THE UPPER TROUGH SUPPORTS HIGH POPS FOR RAIN TONIGHT. ANOTHER COLD FRONT SHOULD MOVE THROUGH THE STATE LATE MONDAY. LACK OF SIGNIFICANT FORCING AND MOISTURE SHOULD KEEP IT DRY. THE 00Z ECMWF IS ADVERTISING A STRONGER COLD FRONT LATE NEXT WEEK. CONFIDENCE ON THE TIMING OF THE FRONTS IS LOW DUE TO MODEL DIFFERENCES NEXT WEEK BETWEEN THE ECMWF AND THE OPERATIONAL GFS. && .AVIATION...25/18Z STRATUS SHIELD HAS ADVANCED TO EVERYWHERE ACROSS THE TAF FORECAST AREA AND WILL REMAIN IN PLACE THROUGH THE FORECAST PERIOD. CIGS MAY VACILLATE BETWEEN 008 AND 015 THROUGH 00Z BUT NO PCPN EXPECTED. AFT 00Z UPPER LEVEL LOW PRESSURE ACROSS THE HIGH PLAINS WILL ADVANCE EAST WHILE A COLD FRONT AT THE SURFACE ENTERS FROM THE WEST. RAIN WILL BEGIN BETWEEN 03Z AND 06Z THEN ADVANCE EAST OVERNIGHT. THE COLD FRONT WILL BE EAST OF THE TAF LOCATIONS BY 15Z SAT AND WE WILL LIKELY SEE FALLING TEMPS AFTER THAT TIME BUT TEMPS SHOULD REMAIN WARM ENOUGH THROUGH 18Z FOR REMAINING PRECIP TO STAY AS RAIN. BEYOND THE FCST PD...PRECIP WILL CHANGE OVER TO A MIX AND THEN LIGHT SNOW AFT 18Z. A NORTHWEST WIND WILL ALSO BE ON THE INCREASE AFT 12Z AS THE COLD AIR MOVING IN DEEPENS. && .DMX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...NONE. && $$ SHORT TERM...DONAVON LONG TERM...JOHNSON AVIATION...FAB
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS MARQUETTE MI
1251 PM EST FRI NOV 25 2011 UPDATED AVIATION DISCUSSION FOR 18Z TAFS .SYNOPSIS... 00Z RAOBS/LATEST WV IMAGERY AND RUC ANALYSIS SHOW PERSISTENT UPR RDGING IN PLACE OVER NAMERICA DOWNSTREAM OF TROFFING OVER THE PAC NW AND WRN CAN. CLOSER TO THE SFC...THE UPR GRT LKS ARE DOMINATED BY A STRONG SW FLOW BTWN HI PRES IN THE MID ATLANTIC STATES AND LO PRES OVER NRN ONTARIO. GRAND MARAIS IN ALGER COUNTY REPORTED SW WIND GUSTS UP TO 37 MPH AT 0330Z. THE 00Z INL AND MPX RAOBS ARE QUITE DRY /IN FACT...THE 00Z H7 DEWPT DEPRESSION AT ABERDEEN SDAKOTA WAS 42C/...SO NOTHING BUT HI CLDS ARE PRESENT ALONG AND AHEAD OF ATTENDANT COLD FNT EXTENDING FM THE ONTARIO LO THRU NW MN INTO NDAKOTA. MORE EXTENSIVE LO CLDS FOLLOW THE FROPA OVER NW NDAKOTA AND SCNTRL CAN WITH SHALLOW COLD AIR INFUSION. OVER THE E HALF OF THE CWA...LLVL MSTR DEPICTED ON THE 00Z GRB RAOB BLO SHARP INVRN BASE NEAR H95 HAS RESULTED IN EXTENSIVE LO CLD. OTRW TEMPS ARE WELL ABV NORMAL FOR THE SEASON...WITH 00Z H85 TEMPS RANGING FM 13C AT GRB AND INL TO 15C AT MPX. SFC TEPS ARE STILL WELL INTO THE 40S AT MANY PLACES EARLY THIS MRNG...10 TO 15 DEGREES ABV THE NORMAL HI TEMPS FOR THE DATE. WELL TO THE W... WV IMAGERY INDICATES A STRONGER SHRTWV IS APRCHG THE PAC NW...WHERE 12Z-24Z H3 FALLS UP TO 100M OCCURRED. && .DISCUSSION... MAIN FCST CONCERNS SHIFT FM LO CLDS/WELL ABV NORMAL TEMPS TDAY TO PCPN CHCS TNGT THRU THE WEEKEND. TDAY...SFC HI PRES OVER THE MID ATLANTIC IS PROGGED TO DRIFT OFF THE SE COAST WHILE LO PRES NOW OVER NRN ONTARIO WL DRIFT ACRS QUEBEC... DRAGGING ATTENDANT COLD FNT INTO THE CWA DURING THE AFTN. ALTHOUGH SFC TEMPS WL BE HELD DOWN ESPECIALLY OVER THE NW WITH THE ARRIVAL OF LLVL COLDER AIR/ARRIVAL OF MORE LO CLDS BEHIND THE FROPA...READINGS WL STILL BE WELL ABV NORMAL...ESPECIALLY OVER THE SCNTRL WHERE THE LO CLDS ARE MORE LIKELY TO BREAK UP. THE SW FLOW OFF LK MI THRU THE DAY AND LO SUN ANGLE WL LIKELY RESULT IN A PERSISTENCE OF THE LO CLD OVER THE E EVEN THOUGH THE STRONGER SW WINDS OBSVD EARLY THIS MRNG WL DIMINISH QUICKLY AS THE PRES GRADIENT SLACKENS. ALTHOUGH SOME MODELS GENERATE LGT PCPN OVER THE CWA WITH THE COLD FROPA...PREFER THE DRY NAM GIVEN THE EXCESSIVE MID LVL DRYNESS OBSVD UPSTREAM. TNGT...STRONGER SHRTWV NOW MOVING INTO THE PAC NW IS FCST TO DEEPEN UPR TROF IN THE PLAINS...WITH SFC LO PRES DVLPG OVER NW WI ON STALLED FNT THAT WL REMAIN ACRS THE CWA. ALTHOUGH LINGERING MID LVL DRY AIR WL LIMIT PCPN CHCS IN THE EVNG...EXPANDING DEEP LYR QVECTOR CNVGC/UPR DVGC/SHARPENING H85-7 FGEN ASSOCIATED WITH APRCHG SHRTWV/ EXIT REGION OF ACCOMPANYING 120KT H3 JET MAX WL INCRS RA CHCS ESPECIALLY OVER THE SW HALF LATER. TENDED TOWARD THE SOMEWHAT WETTER 00Z GFS/12Z ECMWF GIVEN APPARENT STRENGTH OF SHRTWV NOW APRCHG THE PAC NW. SAT...MODEL DISCREPANCIES BECOME MORE PRONOUNCED WITH THE HANDLING OF THE DVLPG LO...SO CONFIDENCE IN THE FCST WL DIMINISH. GIVEN APPARENT STRENGHT OF INCOMING SHRTWV AS MENTIONED ABOVE...TENDED TOWARD THE DEEPER 00Z NAM/GFS SCENARIOS THAT SHOW CUTOFF H5 LO FORMING SOMEWHERE OVER THE UPR MS RIVER VALLEY/UPR MIDWEST. HOWEVER...NCEP PREFERENCE FOR THE WEAKER SOLNS SHOWN BY THE 12Z ECMWF AND 00Z CNDN LOWER CONFIDENCE FURTHER. FORTUNATELY...THERE IS RELATIVELY LTL DIFFERENCE IN THE SFC LO PLACEMENT AMONG THE VARIOUS MODELS DESPITE THE DIFFERENCES IN INTENSITY. MODELS SHOW SFC LO MOVING TO NEAR MQT BY 00Z SUN. ALTHOUGH DRY SLOTTING TO THE E OF THE H5 LO WL LIKELY RESULT IN A DIMINISHING TREND OF THE PCPN OVER MAINLY THE CNTRL AND E...EXPECT HEAVIER PCPN TO LINGER OVER THE W FM IWD-CMX THRU THE DAY CLOSER TO THE TRACK OF THE ACCOMPANYING H85 LO. PER GFS FCST WBLB ZERO HGT FCST TO FALL NEAR 1K FT AGL BY 00Z SUN...EXPECT ENUF COLD AIR TO ARRIVE LATE IN THE DAY TO RESULT IN AT LEAST A MIX OF RA/SN NEAR IWD UNDER THE SHARPER CYC NLY FLOW. SAT NGT THRU SUN...VARIOUS MODELS SHOW SFC LO DRIFTING SLOWLY TO THE NE TO SSE OF JAMES BAY BY LATE IN THE DAY SUN. THE NAM BECOMES A PARTICULAR OUTLIER SHOWING THE LO LINGERING NEAR UPR MI...SO REJECTED THIS FCST. THE OTHER PREFERRED MODELS SUG PCPN WITHIN COMMA HEAD MSTR UNDER SHARPER NNW CYC FLOW/H85 THERMAL TROFFING WL IMPACT MAINLY THE NW HALF AND SLOWLY CHG TO SN AS COLDER AIR MOVES OVHD... WITH BOTH THE 00Z GFS/12Z ECMWF INDICATING H85 TEMPS FALLING TO ARND -9C...LO ENUF FOR LK EFFECT PCPN CONSIDERING LK SUP TEMPS ARND 5C. HOWEVER...EVEN THE DEEPER GFS SUGS SN GROWTH MICROPHYSICS WL NOT BE VERY FVRBL GIVEN FCST WEAK UVV IN THE DENDRITIC SN GROWTH ZN. EVEN SO...SOME LO END ADVY SN AMNTS MAY BE PSBL OVER THE W WITH LK ENHANCEMENT AS THE SN SHOULD BE WET AND HEAVY. THE NEW 00Z ECMWF INDICATES GOOD CONTINUITY WITH THE 12Z RUN...BUT SHOWS QUICKER DRYING ON SUN WITH A WEAKER CYC FLOW/FASTER EXIT THAN INDICATED BY THE DEEPER GFS. TENDED TOWARD HIER POPS OVER THE W TO THE HURON MTNS WHERE THE UPSLOPE NNW FLOW WOULD HAVE A MORE SGNFT IMPACT AS HINTED BY THE 00Z CNDN MODEL. EXPECT A DRYING TREND W-E ON SUN NGT WITH THE ARRIVAL OF A HI PRES RDG. EXTENDED RANGE...EXPECT A MORE SEASONABLY CHILLY PATTERN WITH NW FLOW ALF ALLOWING FOR FREQUENT SHRTWV PASSAGES/POTENTIAL LES EPISODES. MADE FEW CHGS TO ALL BLEND FCST NUMBERS. && .AVIATION /FOR THE 18Z TAF ISSUANCE/... ANOTHER DIFFICULT TAF FCST. LOW CLOUDS/VSBY HAVE EXITED KSAW BUT SHOULD RETURN BY LATE AFTN AS LOW CLOUDS OVR WI STREAM NORTHWARD. MAY SEE YET ANOTHER NIGHT OF CONDITIONS NEAR AIRFIELD MINS BUT SINCE ESE WINDS ARE NOT AS FAVORABLE FOR LOWER CONDITIONS...KEPT CIGS/VSBY LIFR. AT KCMX...LOW CLOUDS HAVE JUST RECENTLY DEVELOPED AS MOISTURE FM ONTARIO DROPS IN ON DEVELOPING N/NE WINDS. CLOUDS MAY BE MORE VARIABLE THIS AFTN...BUT OVERALL THE PREVAILING TREND WILL BE FOR THE LOW CLOUDS TO STICK AROUND THROUGH TONIGHT. ONCE WINDS BECOME MORE EASTERLY...HAVE LOWERED CIGS/VSBY TO IFR OVERNIGHT TONIGHT...BUT THIS MAY NOT BE LOW ENOUGH GIVEN FAVORABLE EAST WIND DIRECTION. AS FOR KIWD...JUST MID-HIGH CLOUDS THUS FAR...BUT EXPECT LOWER CIGS TO DEVELOP LATE TODAY AS THE LOW-CLOUDS IN WESTERN AND CNTRL WI PUSH NORTHWARD. EXPECT RAIN TO DEVELOP LATE TONIGHT AT ALL THREE SITES AS LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM LIFTS TOWARD AREA. MAINLY LIFR CONDITIONS EXPECTED FOR ALL SITES SATURDAY MORNING...WITH ONLY SLOW IMPROVEMENT SATURDAY AFTN. && .MARINE /FOR THE 4AM LAKE SUPERIOR FORECAST ISSUANCE/... A SURFACE TROUGH STALLING OVER LAKE SUPERIOR TODAY WILL BRING A DIMINISHING TREND TO THE WINDS THROUGH MUCH OF THE DAY. A LOW DEVELOPING ALONG THE SURFACE TROUGH IN THE CENTRAL PLAINS TODAY...WILL BEGIN TO MOVE NORTHEAST TONIGHT AND OVER CENTRAL UPPER MICHIGAN ON SATURDAY. EXPECT INCREASING EAST TO NORTHEAST WINDS LATE THIS AFTERNOON OVER THE WEST AND THE REST OVER THE AREA TONIGHT...WITH GUSTS UP TO 30KTS OVER THE NORTH HALF OF THE LAKE TONIGHT. AS THE LOW MOVES EAST ON SATURDAY NIGHT...NORTH GALES OF 35KTS ARE EXPECTED OVER WEST CENTRAL LAKE SUPERIOR. THE GALES SHOULD SPREAD EAST ON SUNDAY AS WINDS SHIFT TO THE NORTHWEST...BEFORE DIMINISHING BELOW 20KTS ON SUNDAY NIGHT AS HIGH PRESSURE MOVES OVER LAKE SUPERIOR. A SURFACE TROUGH MOVING ACROSS LAKE SUPERIOR ON MONDAY AFTERNOON AND EVENING WILL PROVIDE ANOTHER PERIOD OF STRONG SOUTHWEST WINDS...WITH THE POTENTIAL OF NORTHWEST GALES TO 35KTS BEHIND THE TROUGH MONDAY NIGHT AND TUESDAY MORNING. && .MQT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... UPPER MICHIGAN... NONE. LAKE SUPERIOR... GALE WATCH FROM SATURDAY EVENING THROUGH SUNDAY AFTERNOON FOR LSZ263-264. LAKE MICHIGAN... NONE. && $$ SYNOPSIS...KC DISCUSSION...KC AVIATION...JLA MARINE...SRF
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS ALBUQUERQUE NM
254 PM MST FRI NOV 25 2011 .DISCUSSION... VERY DRY COLD AIR ADVECTION IS TAKING HOLD OF THE REGION LATE THIS AFTERNOON BEHIND OUR THANKSGIVING STORM SYSTEM. A THIN BAND OF RAIN AND STORMS IS LINGERING ALONG THE PACIFIC FRONTAL BNDRY OVER THE EAST CENTRAL PLAINS. ANOTHER AREA OF RAIN/SNOW IS SLIDING EAST ACROSS THE NE PLAINS ALONG AND BEHIND THE HIGH PLAINS COLD FRONT. REMOVED POPS FROM ALL AREAS EXCEPT THE NE PLAINS WHERE THE GFS...EURO AND RUC HOLD ON TO SOME QPF THROUGH 11PM. OTHERWISE... WINDS WILL BE ON THE BREEZY SIDE THROUGH THE EVENING ACROSS THE STATE AS LAMINAR NW FLOW REMAINS FIRMLY IN PLACE. THE MEDIUM RANGE FORECAST THROUGH MONDAY WILL BE TRANQUIL AND COOL WITH LIGHT WINDS AND MOSTLY CLEAR SKIES. THE 12Z GFS/NAM SOLUTIONS PUSH THE UPPER TROUGH AXIS WELL EAST INTO THE OHIO RIVER VALLEY AND DEEPEN IT TO A CLOSED LOW THROUGH MONDAY...WHILE THEIR ENSEMBLE COUNTERPARTS ARE MUCH SLOWER AND DEVELOP THE CLOSED LOW OVER THE LOWER MS RIVER VALLEY. THE ECMWF AND CANADIAN SOLUTIONS ARE CLOSER TO THE GFS AND SREF ENSEMBLES SO THIS FORECAST IS MUCH CLOSER TO THE ECMWF...WHICH IS COOLER FOR THE EASTERN HALF OF NM THROUGH EARLY NEXT WEEK. A 587DM H5 UPPER HIGH WILL STILL DEVELOP OVER SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA IN THE MEANTIME...HOWEVER ITS MAIN ROLE WILL BE TO DEVELOP SURFACE HIGH PRESSURE OVER THE CENTRAL ROCKIES AND ALLOW FOR A DECENT COLD FRONT TO MOVE SOUTH DOWN THE PLAINS TUESDAY. SKIES WILL REMAIN MOSTLY SUNNY WITH THIN HIGH CLOUDS TRAVERSING SE OVER THE EASTERN PERIPHERY OF THE RIDGE. DESPITE MODEL DIFFERENCES IN THE MEDIUM RANGE...THE EXTENDED GFS... ECMWF AND CANADIAN GUIDANCE COME INTO EXCEPTIONALLY GOOD AGREEMENT FOR LATE NEXT WEEK. THE 587DM H5 RIDGE SLIDES WEST OFF THE CALIFORNIA COAST THEN SHARPENS TO THE NORTHWEST INTO THE GULF OF ALASKA THROUGH THURSDAY. THIS ALLOWS A POWERFUL 1050MB SURFACE HIGH TO SLIDE DOWN THE FRONT RANGE WHILE AN UPPER WAVE BEGINS TO DIG INTO THE GREAT BASIN. THE COLDEST AIR OF THE SEASON IS POSSIBLE WITH THIS SYSTEM BY THE END OF THE WEEK. THE UPPER WAVE THEN DEEPENS AND SLIDES EAST ACROSS NM WITH ABUNDANT MOIST ADVECTION AND THE POTENTIAL FOR OUR FIRST BIG WINTER STORM. GUYER && .AVIATION... UPPER TROUGH AXIS STRETCHED NORTH TO SOUTH ALONG THE EAST SLOPES OF THE CENTRAL MOUNTAIN CHAIN AT 20Z WILL CONTINUE TO TRACK EASTWARD AND EXIT NEW MEXICO BY 26/06Z. ISOLD TSRA WILL BE FOUND ALONG THE AXIS...WITH -SHRA AND MOUNTAIN -SHRASN ELSEWHERE. CONVECTION WILL OCCASIONALLY OBSCURE HIGHER TERRAIN WITH MAINLY MVFR VSBYS/CIGS. SURFACE WIND SHIFT TO NW/N OVER ERN HALF OF STATE BEFORE 26/00Z WITH OCCASIONAL GUSTS TO AROUND 35KT. DRYING EXPECTED IN THE WAKE OF THE TROUGH FROM THE FAR NW AND WEST CENTRAL SPREADING EASTWARD THROUGH 26/12Z BUT SOME LINGERING LOW LEVEL MOISTURE MAY RESULT IN ISOLD IFR CIGS/VSBYS MAINLY IN VALLEYS OF THE NORTHERN MOUNTAINS. AT LEAST ONE SHORT WAVE IN THE NORTHWEST FLOW ALOFT WILL PLUNGE INTO EASTERN NEW MEXICO LATE TONIGHT/SATURDAY TO KEEP A STRONG GRADIENT BOTH ALOFT AND AT THE SURFACE...LEADING TO GUSTY WINDS PERSISTING IN THAT REGION. NEXT AVIATION DISCUSSION SCHEDULED FOR 10Z. && .FIRE WEATHER... WETTING PRECIPITATION WILL CONTINUE TO TAPER OFF FOR THE REST OF THE AFTERNOON AS THE UPPER TROUGH AXIS TRACKS EAST AND OUT OF NEW MEXICO. HOWEVER...A FEW THUNDERSTORMS WILL BE FOUND OVER THE EASTERN PLAINS IMMEDIATELY ALONG THE TROUGH AXIS THIS AFTERNOON. IN ADDITION...GUSTY NORTHWEST TO NORTH WINDS WILL RAKE A GOOD PART OF NORTHERN AND CENTRAL NEW MEXICO. THESE WINDS WILL HELP DRY THE BOUNDARY LAYER TONIGHT FROM NORTHWEST TO SOUTHEAST...BUT SOME LINGERING LOW LEVEL MOISTURE MAY RESULT IN PATCHY LOW CLOUDS IN SOME NORTHERN AND/OR SOUTHWEST MOUNTAIN VALLEYS. THEREFORE...HUMIDITY RECOVERIES SHOULD BE AT LEAST GOOD. GUSTY NORTHWEST TO NORTH WINDS WILL PERSIST SATURDAY MAINLY OVER THE EASTERN PLAINS AS THE UPPER RIDGE BUILDS FROM THE WEST AND AT LEAST ONE MORE SHORT WAVE DIVES SOUTH OUT OF COLORADO. IT SHOULD BE DRY AREA WIDE WITH TEMPERATURES SLOW TO WARM...ESPECIALLY IN THE NORTHEAST. VENTILATION WILL BE FAIR TO POOR OVER ALL BUT THE NORTHEAST PLAINS AND ALONG THE TEXAS BORDER. NOT MUCH CHANGE IN THE UPPER AIR PATTERN IS ANTICIPATED ON SUNDAY AS THE RIDGE BUILDS SHARPLY OVER ARIZONA AND WESTERN NEW MEXICO. THE GRADIENT RELAXES...RESULTING IN LESS WIND OVERALL AND POOR VENTILATION AREA WIDE. DAYTIME TEMPERATURES SHOULD REBOUND TO WITHIN A FEW DEGREES OF NORMAL. THE UPPER RIDGE FLATTENS SLIGHTLY ON MONDAY...ALLOWING A SURFACE FRONT TO APPROACH THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF NEW MEXICO IN THE AFTERNOON. CONSEQUENTLY...VENTILATION IMPROVES SOMEWHAT IN THE EAST BUT REMAINS POOR IN THE WEST. THE FRONT MOVES THROUGH THE PLAINS MONDAY NIGHT BUT SHOULD BE DRY. IT SHOULD BE A LITTLE COOLER IN THE EAST TUESDAY...BUT VENTILATION WILL REMAIN POOR TO FAIR AREA WIDE. EXTENDED FORECAST MODELS ARE INDICATING AN IMPRESSIVE WINTER STORM SYSTEM COULD DEVELOP IN SPLIT FLOW OVER THE WESTERN U.S. SOMETIME MID TO LATE NEXT WEEK. THIS COULD IMPACT NEW MEXICO NEXT THURSDAY THROUGH SATURDAY...BUT THAT COULD CHANGE. && .PRELIMINARY POINT TEMPS/POPS... FARMINGTON...................... 26 49 22 53 / 0 0 0 0 DULCE........................... 19 46 15 52 / 0 0 0 0 CUBA............................ 21 48 19 54 / 0 0 0 0 GALLUP.......................... 20 48 14 55 / 0 0 0 0 EL MORRO........................ 19 45 14 52 / 0 0 0 0 GRANTS.......................... 18 48 13 55 / 0 0 0 0 QUEMADO......................... 19 49 16 56 / 0 0 0 0 GLENWOOD........................ 30 61 28 61 / 0 0 0 0 CHAMA........................... 20 42 19 48 / 0 0 0 0 LOS ALAMOS...................... 31 43 29 50 / 0 0 0 0 PECOS........................... 27 42 26 49 / 0 0 0 0 CERRO/QUESTA.................... 21 39 16 48 / 0 0 0 0 RED RIVER....................... 17 33 4 44 / 5 0 0 0 ANGEL FIRE...................... 19 37 5 46 / 5 0 0 0 TAOS............................ 19 43 14 52 / 0 0 0 0 MORA............................ 25 41 23 50 / 0 0 0 0 ESPANOLA........................ 23 49 20 55 / 0 0 0 0 SANTA FE........................ 26 44 24 52 / 0 0 0 0 SANTA FE AIRPORT................ 25 47 21 53 / 0 0 0 0 ALBUQUERQUE FOOTHILLS........... 29 48 30 53 / 0 0 0 0 ALBUQUERQUE HEIGHTS............. 33 50 29 53 / 0 0 0 0 ALBUQUERQUE VALLEY.............. 31 52 24 54 / 0 0 0 0 ALBUQUERQUE WEST MESA........... 28 52 24 54 / 0 0 0 0 LOS LUNAS....................... 27 52 20 55 / 0 0 0 0 RIO RANCHO...................... 26 51 25 54 / 0 0 0 0 SOCORRO......................... 31 54 28 58 / 0 0 0 0 SANDIA PARK/CEDAR CREST......... 27 47 26 51 / 0 0 0 0 TIJERAS......................... 27 48 24 52 / 0 0 0 0 MORIARTY/ESTANCIA............... 23 43 18 49 / 0 0 0 0 CLINES CORNERS.................. 26 43 25 48 / 5 0 0 0 GRAN QUIVIRA.................... 28 48 26 52 / 0 0 0 0 CARRIZOZO....................... 30 51 26 53 / 0 0 0 0 RUIDOSO......................... 26 46 24 48 / 5 0 0 0 CAPULIN......................... 24 38 20 51 / 20 0 0 0 RATON........................... 25 45 19 61 / 5 0 0 0 SPRINGER........................ 24 43 20 59 / 5 0 0 0 LAS VEGAS....................... 26 42 23 54 / 5 0 0 0 CLAYTON......................... 28 42 28 58 / 30 0 0 0 ROY............................. 27 42 24 55 / 10 0 0 0 CONCHAS......................... 32 48 25 60 / 5 0 0 0 SANTA ROSA...................... 31 47 27 60 / 0 0 0 0 TUCUMCARI....................... 32 46 26 58 / 10 0 0 0 CLOVIS.......................... 32 46 27 54 / 0 0 0 0 PORTALES........................ 32 47 25 56 / 5 0 0 0 FORT SUMNER..................... 34 49 26 59 / 0 0 0 0 ROSWELL......................... 36 51 25 59 / 0 0 0 0 PICACHO......................... 33 48 25 57 / 0 0 0 0 ELK............................. 30 47 24 52 / 0 0 0 0 && .ABQ WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... NONE. && $$ GUYER
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS LA CROSSE WI
1147 AM CST FRI NOV 25 2011 .SHORT TERM...TODAY THROUGH MONDAY 301 AM CST FRI NOV 25 2011 BIG CHANGES COMING OVER THE NEXT FEW DAYS AS RAIN STARTS UP TONIGHT AHEAD OF A COLD FRONT WHICH WILL KNOCK TEMPERATURES DOWN ON SATURDAY. BEYOND THIS...THERE IS MUCH UNCERTAINTY FOR SATURDAY NIGHT INTO SUNDAY WITH WHETHER AN ACCUMULATING SNOW WILL OCCUR. CURRENTLY...MILD CONDITIONS WERE OBSERVED ACROSS THE REGION DUE TO GUSTY SOUTH TO SOUTHWEST WINDS AT THE SURFACE AHEAD OF A COLD FRONT THAT EXTENDS FROM SOUTHWEST ONTARIO THROUGH NORTHERN MINNESOTA ON INTO CENTRAL SOUTH DAKOTA. FURTHER ALOFT...GENERAL SOUTHWEST FLOW AHEAD OF TROUGHING DUE TO A NORTHERN AND SOUTHERN STREAM LOW WAS HELPING TO ADVECT MID TO HIGH LEVEL CLOUDS INTO THE REGION. AS THE SOUTHERN STREAM TROUGH PROPAGATES EAST INTO THE SOUTHERN PLAINS THIS MORNING...LOW LEVEL MOISTURE ADVECTION WILL BE ON THE INCREASE AS A SURFACE LOW DEEPENS ACROSS THE NORTHERN PLAINS. AS A RESULT...ANOTHER LOW LEVEL STRATUS DECK IS EXPECTED TO DEVELOP NORTHWARD THIS MORNING FROM THE SOUTHERN PLAINS. THE LATEST IR SCANS AT 8Z SHOWS THE LEADING EDGE OF THIS STRATUS NEAR EMPORIA KANSAS...WHICH CORRELATES WELL TO THE 25.07Z RUC 950-900MB LAYER RH. THIS RUN OF THE RUC SHOWS THE HIGHER RH VALUES INCREASING RAPIDLY THIS MORNING ACROSS THE SOUTHEASTERN HALF OF IOWA TOWARD THE NORTHERN HALF OF LAKE MICHIGAN BY 18Z TODAY. 25.07Z RUC AND 25.00Z NAM/GFS SOUNDINGS FROM ACROSS THE REGION SHOW THIS HIGHER RH BEING TRAPPED UNDER A STOUT 900-850MB INVERSION AND THEREFORE HAVE GONE WITH A MORE PESSIMISTIC CLOUD FORECAST TODAY. THIS CLOUD COVER WILL LIMIT HOW MUCH WARMING CAN OCCUR INTO THE AFTERNOON WITH THE HIGHS LIKELY COMING THIS MORNING. AFTER THE STRATUS FILLS IN...THE NEXT QUESTION IS WHEN WILL THE RAIN START UP TONIGHT. 25.00Z NAM AND GFS SOUNDINGS SHOW A DECENT DRY LAYER CENTERED ON 800MB THAT WILL NEED TO BE OVERCOME FOR ANY PRECIPITATION TO MAKE IT DOWN TO THE GROUND. BASED ON THESE SOUNDINGS AND MID LEVEL QG FORCING FIELDS...IT APPEARS THAT THE DEEP MOISTURE AND FORCING COMES TOGETHER LATER TONIGHT AHEAD OF THE SURFACE COLD FRONT AND MID LEVEL TROUGH. THE THERMAL PROFILE WILL BE WARM ENOUGH FOR THIS PRECIPITATION TO BE IN ALL LIQUID FORM THROUGH SATURDAY MORNING BEFORE THE FRONT COMES THROUGH. AFTER THE FRONT COMES THROUGH THE REGION SATURDAY MORNING INTO EARLY SATURDAY AFTERNOON...UNCERTAINTY TAKES OVER WITH WHAT WILL OCCUR SATURDAY NIGHT INTO SUNDAY. THE ONE THING THAT APPEARS TO BE CERTAIN IS THAT COLDER AIR WILL ADVECT INTO THE REGION IN THE LOW LEVELS BRINGING MUCH OF THE THERMAL PROFILE TO BELOW FREEZING AND SUPPORTIVE OF SNOW BEING THE PRECIPITATION TYPE. THE MAIN UNCERTAINTY LIES WITH THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE US AND NON-US MODEL SOLUTIONS WITH THE STRENGTH AND TRACK OF THE TROUGH. BASED ON INPUT FROM HPC/S MODEL DIAGNOSTICS DESK...THE UNFAVORED SOLUTION IS THE 25.00Z NAM/GFS AND 24.21Z SREF MEAN WHICH PRODUCE A DEEPER...CLOSED OFF MID LEVEL LOW WHICH BRINGS THE DEFORMATION AXIS THROUGH THE HEART OF THE FORECAST AREA. THESE SOLUTIONS WOULD LIKELY LEAD TO AN ACCUMULATING SNOW ACROSS MUCH OF THE REGION. THESE MODELS ALSO DEVELOPS A VERY TIGHT PRESSURE GRADIENT IN THE LOW LEVEL COLD AIR ADVECTION POCKET ON THE SOUTHWEST SIDE OF THE SURFACE LOW WHICH WOULD BRING GUSTS UP NEAR ADVISORY CRITERIA. HOWEVER...AT THIS POINT THE FAVORED SOLUTION FOR SATURDAY NIGHT INTO SUNDAY IS WITH THE 25.00Z ECMWF/UKMET/CANADIAN MODELS. THESE FORMS OF GUIDANCE ALL SHOW A MUCH LESS AMPLIFIED...OPEN MID LEVEL WAVE WITH HARDLY ANY SNOW COMING THROUGH SATURDAY NIGHT. BASED ON THIS INPUT FROM HPC ...HAVE BACKED OFF ON THE PROBABILITY FOR PRECIPITATION AND THE WIND GUSTS JUST A TAD ON SATURDAY NIGHT. FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THIS FAVORED TREND...PLEASE SEE THE LATEST PMDHMD FROM HPC. COLD AIR WILL REMAIN IN PLACE UNTIL MONDAY WHEN A BRIEF SHOT OF LOW LEVEL WARM AIR ADVECTION COMES THROUGH THE REGION. .LONG TERM...MONDAY NIGHT THROUGH THURSDAY NIGHT 301 AM CST FRI NOV 25 2011 NOT A WHOLE LOT OF CONFIDENCE GOING INTO THE EXTENDED PERIOD DUE TO THE ISSUES THIS WEEKEND...BUT HAVE TRENDED TOWARD THE 25.00Z ECMWF/GEM/UKMET FORECAST WHICH CUT OFF A MID LEVEL LOW ALONG THE GULF COAST EARLY NEXT WEEK AND SLOWLY BRINGS IT TOWARD THE NORTHEASTERN US INTO MID WEEK. THIS SETUP WILL KEEP THE REGION IN A COOL NORTHWESTERLY FLOW ALOFT AND LIMIT ANY KIND OF WARMING TRENDS. NOT MUCH IN THE WAY OF PRECIPITATION CHANCES EXCEPT FOR AN OPEN MID LEVEL TROUGH THAT DIVES SOUTHEAST TOWARD THE GREAT LAKES ON THURSDAY WHICH COULD BRING SOME PRECIPITATION WITH IT. && .AVIATION...THROUGH 18Z SATURDAY 1147 AM CST FRI NOV 25 2011 STRATUS HAS MOVED IN FROM THE SOUTHWEST INTO BOTH TAF SITES...WITH MVFR CEILINGS AT KLSE AND IFR CEILINGS AT KRST. THESE CEILINGS ARE LIKELY TO PERSIST INTO EARLY THIS EVENING...AND THEN GRADUALLY START FALLING WITH NOCTURNAL COOLING AND MORESO AFTER MIDNIGHT WHEN RAIN IS FORECAST TO OCCUR. ANTICIPATING BOTH SITES AT IFR AT 08Z WITH LIFR CONDITIONS LIKELY AS WELL. VFR VISIBILITIES SHOULD REMAIN THE RULE THROUGH THE EVENING...THOUGH CANNOT RULE OUT BRIEF TIMES OF KRST DROPPING TO MVFR BEFORE THEN GIVEN THE 6SM VISIBILITY AT 17Z. BETTER SHOT OF MVFR VISIBILITIES COMES AFTER 06Z TONIGHT AND EVEN IFR VISIBILITIES TOWARDS 12Z WITH THE RAIN. THE RAIN THAT IS FORECAST IS DUE TO A TROUGH OF LOW PRESSURE MOVING INTO THE TAF SITES. PLAN ON THIS TROUGH TO MOVE THROUGH THE TAF SITES BETWEEN 12-15Z SATURDAY. IN ITS WAKE...PRECIPITATION WILL END ALLOWING VISIBILITIES AND CEILINGS TO CLIMB. STILL HAVE CEILINGS ONLY CLIMBING TO IFR AT BOTH TAF SITES LEADING UP TO 18Z...BUT IT CERTAINLY POSSIBLE THAT THEY COULD REACH MVFR AROUND 18Z. IN ADDITION...LOOK FOR WINDS TO TURN FROM SOUTHERLY TO WEST BEHIND THE TROUGH. GUSTS TO 20 KT OR SO ARE POSSIBLE AT KRST AFTER 15Z AND SHOULD INCREASE FURTHER AFTER 18Z WHEN COLD AIR FLOWS IN. && .CLIMATE...FOR TODAY 301 AM CST FRI NOV 25 2011 RECORD HIGHEST LOWS MAY BE BROKEN TODAY AT BOTH ROCHESTER AND LA CROSSE WITH TEMPERATURES THIS MORNING FAIRLY MILD IN THE UPPER 40S TO AROUND 50. THE RECORD HIGHEST LOW TEMPERATURE FOR ROCHESTER TODAY IS 37 FROM 1915. THE RECORD HIGHEST LOW TEMPERATURE FOR LA CROSSE TODAY IS 42 IN 1998. FORECAST TEMPERATURES AT MIDNIGHT TONIGHT ARE EXPECTED TO BE ABOVE THESE VALUES. && .ARX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... 301 AM CST FRI NOV 25 2011 WI...NONE. MN...NONE. IA...NONE. && $$ SHORT TERM...HALBACH LONG TERM...HALBACH AVIATION...AJ CLIMATE...HALBACH