Forecast Discussions mentioning any of "HRRR" "RR" "RUC13" "RUC" received at GSD on 11/18/11


AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS DENVER CO
1149 PM MST TUE NOV 15 2011 .UPDATE... && .SHORT TERM...WINDS IN THE DENVER METRO AREA JUST SHIFTED TO A NORTHERLY DIRECTION WITH PASSAGE OF A WEAK FRONTAL BOUNDARY WHICH IS BEING PUSHED SOUTHWARD BY 2-3MB PRESSURE RISE COUPLET ALONG THE COLORADO/WYOMING BORDER. WIND SPEEDS IMMEDIATELY BEHIND THIS BOUNDARY IN THE 10-20KT RANGE. WIND SHIFT/SURGE NOT HANDLED WELL BY THE MODELS EXCEPT FOR THE RUC. ALTHOUGH THE RUC WAS A BIT PREMATURE TO MOVE THIS WIND SHIFT THROUGH THE METRO AREA. AT ANY RATE...UPDATED WIND AND WIND GUST GRIDS OUT TO 18Z USING THE LATEST RUC AND HRRR MODEL RUNS TO ACCOUNT FOR THE CURRENT WIND SHIFT AND TO REFLECT THE NORTHERLY WIND PATTERN EXPECTED ON THE PLAINS DURING THE DAY. .AVIATION...JUST UPDATED DENVER AREA TERMINAL FORECASTS TO REFLECT THE SHIFT THE NORTHERLY WINDS WITH PASSAGE OF A WEAK FRONTAL BOUNDARY. NEXT FEW HOURS SHOULD SEE WINDS IN THE METRO AREA ASSUMING A SOMEWHAT TYPICAL DRAINING PATTERN...ONLY TO SWING AROUND TO A NORTHERLY COMPONENT AROUND MID-MORNING WITH HEATING AND MIXING. && .PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 952 PM MST TUE NOV 15 2011/ UPDATE... SHORT TERM...JET RELATED LIFT HAS RESOLVED INTO TWO SHOWER BANDS. THE MAIN ONE IS NOW FROM SOUTHERN SUMMIT COUNTY OUT TO WASHINGTON COUNTY WHILE A WEAKER ONE HAS DEVELOPED ON THE BACK EDGE OF THE CLOUD DECK FROM NEAR STEAMBOAT SPRINGS INTO LARIMER COUNTY. DOWNSLOPE WINDS ARE STILL ENOUGH TO KILL THE SHOWERS ALONG THE EAST SLOPES...AND LOW LEVELS ARE STILL PRETTY DRY TOO...SO I EXPECT THAT WE ARE SEEING MAINLY FLURRIES ON THE PLAINS AND JUST LIGHT SHOWERS IN THE MOUNTAINS. COULD SEE AN INCH OR TWO WHERE THE SHOWERS ARE TRAINING I SUPPOSE. INCOMING AIR WAS A BIT COLDER/DRIER THAN EXPECTED SO DROPPED TEMPS ABOUT 4 DEGREES TONIGHT. AREAS THAT CLEARED EARLIER WILL HAVE CLOUDS FOR A WHILE...BUT COULD STILL DROP EVEN COLDER IN THE NORTHERN/WESTERN PARTS OF THE AREA IF IT CLEARS AGAIN BEFORE MORNING. AVIATION...VFR CONDITIONS AS WEAK SHOWERS STAY AWAY FROM THE DENVER AREA...NO CHANGES NEEDED. PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 305 PM MST TUE NOV 15 2011/ SHORT TERM...LATEST Q-G ANALYSIS SHOWS DEEP BUT WEAK LIFT OVER THE FORECAST AREA. SOME OF THIS LIFT IS LIKELY ASSOCIATED WITH THE RIGHT REAR ENTRANCE REGION OF THE DEPARTING UPPER LEVEL JET. MEANWHILE...ANOTHER SPEED MAX WAS MOVING TOWARD THE FOUR CORNERS AREA AND THERE IS ALSO A MODEST AMOUNT OF FRONTOGENESIS DEPICTED ACROSS THE EASTERN PLAINS TONIGHT. THIS SHOULD KEEP AT LEAST WEAK LIFT GOING THROUGH THE NIGHT. AT THE SAME TIME...AIRMASS WILL SLOWLY DESTABILIZE WITH COLD ADVECTION ALOFT. WE ARE STILL A LITTLE SKEPTICAL OF THE MOISTURE SHOWN...ESPECIALLY WITH THE GFS WHICH SEEMS TO AGGRESSIVE WITH AVAILABLE MOISTURE AND THUS PRECIPITATION AMOUNTS OVER THE PLAINS. WE WILL LEAN TOWARD THE NAM AND LATEST RUC SOLUTIONS TONIGHT WHICH ARE MORE CONSERVATIVE OVER EAST CENTRAL COLORADO. WE ALSO KEEP THE CHANCE OF PRECIPITATION CONFINED TO THE PALMER DIVIDE AREA EASTWARD TOWARD AKRON AND LIMON TONIGHT BASED ON THIS AREA BEING UNDER THE BEST LIFT...MID LEVEL CONVERGENCE...AND FRONTOGENESIS. IN THE MOUNTAINS...SNOW SHOWERS WILL CONTINUE TONIGHT BUT MOISTURE DEPTH IS QUITE LIMITED. A FEW SPOTS HAVE PICKED UP AN INCH OR TWO TODAY BASED ON THE SNOTEL DATA...AND EXPECT SIMILAR AMOUNTS TONIGHT. BY WEDNESDAY...AIRMASS WILL BE DRYING WITH SNOW SHOWERS COMING TO AN END IN THE MOUNTAINS. MOSTLY SUNNY SKIES SHOULD PREVAIL ON THE PLAINS WITH LARGE SCALE SUBSIDENCE IN PLACE. WINDS WILL ALSO BE LIGHTER IN MOST LOCATIONS. LONG TERM...FAST ZONAL FLOW LOOKS LIKE IT WILL CONTINUE ACROSS THE COUNTRY FOR MOST OF THE UPCOMING WEEK. THE POLAR JET STREAM WILL MIGRATE BACK AND FORTH OVER THE STATE AT TIMES THROUGH THE FORECAST PERIOD AS THE ZONAL FLOW ALOFT CONTINUES. RIPPLES EMBEDDED IN THE ZONAL FLOW WILL BRING PERIODS OF SNOW TO THE MOUNTAINS AND GUSTY WINDS OVER THE CONTINENTAL DIVIDE AND EAST SLOPES. THE FIRST MAIN JET WILL BE PASSING OVERHEAD WEDNESDAY NIGHT...BRINGING THE FIRST EPISODE OF GUSTY WINDS TO THE FOOTHILLS TOMORROW NIGHT. STRONG WINDS ARE EXPECTED TO REMAIN UP OVER THE HIGHER TERRAIN SINCE HIGH PRESSURE OVER KANSAS WILL INITIALLY PRODUCE SOUTHEASTERLY FLOW ACROSS THE NORTHEAST COLORADO PLAINS. SPEEDS ALSO APPEAR TO NOT BE STRONG ENOUGH TO WARRANT ANY HIGHLIGHTS FOR NOW. ON THURSDAY NIGHT...THE RIGHT EXIT REGION OF ANOTHER UPPER JET WILL BE MOVING IN FROM THE WEST. THIS WILL PRODUCE ANOTHER PERIOD OF GUSTY WINDS WHICH MIGHT WORK THEIR WAY DOWN THE EASTERN FOOTHILL SLOPES. BY FRIDAY...THE ECMWF AND GFS SHOW A SHORT WAVE TROUGH APPROACHING COLORADO WHICH WILL SPREAD SNOW INTO THE MOUNTAINS. THIS TROUGH WILL BE ACCOMPANIED BY A COMPLICATED UPPER LEVEL JET STRUCTURE...HELPING TO ENHANCE SNOWFALL OVER THE NORTHWEST PART OF THE STATE. BY SATURDAY MORNING...THE MODELS SHOW THIS TROUGH SHEARING OUT OVER THE CENTRAL PART OF THE STATE BEFORE PRODUCING ANY PRECIPITATION OVER THE NORTHEAST COLORADO PLAINS. THE STATE WILL CONTINUE UNDER STRONG SOUTHWESTERLY FLOW ALOFT THROUGH THE REST OF THE WEEKEND AS AN UPPER LOW CUTS OFF ALONG THE CALIFORNIA COAST. THIS UPPER LOW IS FORECAST TO BE MOVING TOWARDS COLORADO BY TUESDAY...WITH MOST OF ITS PRECIPITATION OCCURRING OVER NEW MEXICO AND SOUTHERN COLORADO. ALL IN ALL...AN ACTIVE WEATHER PATTERN BUT WITHOUT ENOUGH WIND OR PRECIPITATION TO WARRANT ANY HIGHLIGHTS FOR NOW. AVIATION...ANTICYCLONIC LOW LEVEL FLOW IS STILL MAKING FOR A TRICKY WIND FORECAST THIS EVENING...ALTHOUGH WINDS WILL TREND MORE EAST/SOUTHEASTERLY AND EVENTUALLY RETURN TO NORMAL DIURNAL SOUTHERLY FLOW AFT 06Z TONIGHT. THERE IS JUST A SLIGHT RISK OF A PASSING SNOW SHOWER IN THE AREA BUT AT THIS TIME MAIN CHANCE WOULD REMAIN TO THE SOUTH AND EAST OF THE FRONT RANGE AIRPORTS AND AFFECT THE SOUTHEAST APPROACH GATES AROUND LIMON FROM 01Z-10Z. VISUAL LANDING CONDITIONS SHOULD PREVAIL WITH ONLY A SLIGHT RISK OF CEILINGS DROPPING BELOW 6000 FT AGL BETWEEN 00Z AND 06Z. ON WEDNESDAY...LOOK FOR ONLY FEW-SCT CLOUDS ABOVE 7000 FT AND WINDS BECOMING NORTH/NORTHEAST 10-15 KTS AROUND 18Z. && .BOU WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... NONE. && $$ SHORT TERM...BAKER/GIMMESTAD/BARJENBRUCH LONG TERM....DANKERS AVIATION...BAKER/GIMMESTAD/BARJENBRUCH
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS INDIANAPOLIS IN
1202 AM EST WED NOV 16 2011 .UPDATE... THE AVIATION SECTION HAS BEEN UPDATED BELOW. && .SYNOPSIS... WEATHER CONDITIONS WILL BE FLUCTUATING QUITE A BIT OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL DAYS. FIRST...ANOTHER COLD FRONT WILL MOVE ACROSS CENTRAL INDIANA TONIGHT BRINGING MUCH COLDER AIR BEHIND IT. HIGHS WILL ONLY TOP OFF IN THE 40S THE NEXT FEW DAYS DESPITE THE DRY CONDITIONS. THE NEXT CHANCE FOR PRECIP AND ISOLATED THUNDERSTORMS WILL BE LATE IN THE WEEKEND AS A RATHER STRONG SYSTEM MOVES ACROSS CENTRAL INDIANA. FURTHER OUT...HIGH PRESSURE WILL RE-ESTABLISH ITSELF OVER CENTRAL INDIANA LATE MONDAY. && .NEAR TERM /REST OF TONIGHT/... SO FAR CURRENT FORECAST SEEMS TO BE ON TRACK. PRESENTLY RAIN OCCURRING SOUTH OF OHIO RIVER...BUT RADAR LOOPS INDICATE THAT IT HAS PUSHED NORTH INTO MISSOURI BOOTHEEL AS UPPER LEVEL DISTURBANCE MOVING ACROSS ARKANSAS AND TENNESSEE. RUC BRINGS PRECIPITATION ACROSS OUR FAR SOUTH LATE TONIGHT AND EARLY WEDNESDAY...BUT NOTHING MUCH NORTH OF OUR SOUTHERN ROW OF COUNTIES. I HAVE ADJUSTED RAIN AREA SLIGHTLY SOUTH OVERNIGHT...BUT NOT ENOUGH TO UPDATE FORECAST PRODUCTS. ONE MINOR CHANGE IN GRIDS WILL BE TO SLOW DOWN FALL OF TEMPERATURES A LITTLE OVERNIGHT UNTIL SECONDARY COLD FRONT MOVES THROUGH LATE TONIGHT. BUT EVEN THERE THE OVERNIGHT LOWS STILL SEEM TO BE ON TRACK WITH MID TO UPPER 30S ACROSS OUR NORTHWEST AND LOWER TO MID 40S SOUTH. && .SHORT TERM /TOMORROW THROUGH THURSDAY/... THE MAIN FOCUS OF THE SHORT TERM IS TEMPS. MUCH COOLER TEMPS AND DRY CONDITIONS WILL PREVAIL TOMORROW IN THE WAKE OF A COLD FRONT. HIGHS WILL ONLY TOP OFF IN THE UPPER 40S/LOWER 50S ACROSS THE SOUTHERN COUNTIES...AND MID 40S TO THE NORTH. MODELS SEEM TO HAVE A GOOD HANDLE ON THE COLD ADVECTION...SO WENT WITH ALLBLEND. TOMORROW NIGHT...TRENDED ON THE WARMER SIDE OF GUIDANCE AS CLOUDS BUILD INTO THE AREA AHEAD OF A BROAD UPPER LEVEL LOW. GUIDANCE IS SHOWING LOWS IN THE MID TO UPPER 20S...SO WENT WITH UPPER 20S/LOW 30S. HOWEVER...CONFIDENCE IS LOW SINCE 850MB TEMPS ARE HINTING AT A COOLING TREND. THURSDAY...WENT ABOVE GUIDANCE SINCE WINDS WILL BE BACKING TO THE WEST THROUGH THE COURSE OF THE DAY. THIS MAY BE TOO OPTIMISTIC THOUGH...SO CONFIDENCE IS A BIT LOW. FOR NOW...HAVE HIGHS OF LOW TO MID 40S OVER THE NORTH...AND UPPER 40S ACROSS THE SOUTHERN PORTIONS OF CENTRAL INDIANA. THURSDAY NIGHT...JUST WENT WITH A BLEND OF UPPER 20S/LOW 30S. && .LONG TERM /FRIDAY THROUGH TUESDAY/... MODELS ARE HAVING TIMING DIFFICULTIES WITH A STRONG FRONTAL SYSTEM THAT IS EXPECTED TO IMPACT CENTRAL INDIANA THIS WEEKEND INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK. THE 12Z ECMWF AND 12Z GEM ARE BOTH QUITE A BIT FASTER THAN THE 12Z GFS. THE 12Z GFS ESEMBLE MEANS WERE IN BETWEEN...BUT THE ESEMBLES HAD LARGE STANDARD DEVIATIONS. SO...AT THIS POINT...A NON-GFS BLEND LOOKS GOOD. HAD TO MAKE SEVERAL CHANGES TO THE INITIALIZATION EXTENDED REGARDING TIMING OF THE RAIN. DROPPED SLIGHT CHANCE POPS NORTHWEST ON FRIDAY WITH THE FRONTAL SYSTEM WELL TO THE WEST ACROSS THE ROCKIES. OTHERWISE...THE FRONT IS EXPECTED TO SLIDE ACROSS SATURDAY NIGHT. MODELS SUGGEST SYSTEM STRONG ENOUGH TO PRODUCE A FEW THUNDERSTORMS AS WELL AS SHOWERS SATURDAY AND SATURDAY NIGHT. THE 12Z ECMWF ALSO WAS SHOWING A WAVE LIFTING NORTHEAST ALONG THE OSCILLATING FRONT NEAR THE OHIO RIVER ON MONDAY WHICH JUSTIFIES KEEPING POPS IN THROUGH THEN. FINALLY...HIGH PRESSURE WILL BUILD IN BEHIND THE FRONT ON MONDAY NIGHT WHICH SHOULD DRY THINGS OUT BY TUESDAY AND ALLOW FOR MUCH COOLER TEMPERATURES ONLY IN THE 40S FOR AFTERNOON HIGHS IN CONTRAST TO HIGHS IN THE 50S AND POSSIBLY 60S SATURDAY IN THE RETURN FLOW AHEAD OF THE FRONT. AFTER COORDINATING WITH ADJACENT OFFICES...PULLED THE INITIALIZATION EXTENDED POPS. && .AVIATION /DISCUSSION FOR THE 16/06Z TAFS/... CEILINGS AT SOME LOCATIONS /HUF AND BMG ESPECIALLY/ HAVE AT LEAST TEMPORARILY DROPPED INTO IFR CATEGORY...AND MAY REMAIN THERE UNTIL THE SECONDARY FRONT PASSES EARLY THIS MORNING. SREF PROBABILITIES INDICATE MVFR/IFR SHOULD END AT HUF/IND AROUND 09Z...LASTING AT BMG THROUGH MID MORNING. SOME CONCERN ABOUT FOG OR LIFR CEILINGS WITH SLOW MOVING BOUNDARY IN PROXIMITY TO SITES...AND SOME UNSETTLINGLY LOW TEMP/DEWPOINT SPREADS...BUT NO GUIDANCE INDICATES THIS AS A SIGNIFICANT POTENTIAL...AND WITH BOUNDARY MAKING SLOW BUT STEADY PROGRESS...WILL LEAVE OUT. WILL REQUIRE MONITORING...ESPECIALLY NEAR SUNRISE AT ALL SITES. WINDS FROM MID MORNING THROUGH THIS EVENING WILL BE NORTHERLY...AND GUSTY INTO THE MID TO HIGH TEENS. && .IND WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...NONE. && $$ SYNOPSIS...TDUD NEAR TERM...JH SHORT TERM...TDUD LONG TERM....50 AVIATION...NIELD/50
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS GOODLAND KS
1010 AM MST WED NOV 16 2011 .DISCUSSION... 301 AM MST WED NOV 16 2011 FORECAST PROBLEMS WILL BE TODAY...AND THEN HOW FAST IS THE TEMPERATURE RECOVERY INTO FRIDAY. SATELLITE SHOWING SOME AMPLIFICATION TO THE FLOW FROM THE WESTERN PACIFIC INTO CENTRAL NORTH AMERICA. UPPER TROUGH IS STILL HANGING AROUND OVER THE CENTRAL PORTION OF THE COUNTRY WITH NUMEROUS SHORTWAVE TROUGHS MOVING THROUGH IT. COLD FRONT THAT WENT THROUGH EARLIER TODAY EXTENDS FROM THE SOUTHERN PLAINS TO ALONG THE FRONT RANGE OF COLORADO. MODELS INITIALIZED FINE AT JET LEVEL. MODELS INITIALIZED FINE AT MID LEVELS EXCEPT THE GFS WAS TOO MOIST. THE MODELS TENDED TO BE SLIGHTLY TOO FAR EAST AND SOUTH WITH THE SURFACE RIDGE AND THE LEE SURFACE TROUGH. HOWEVER...THE NAM WAS PRETTY CLOSE AND SLIGHTLY BETTER THAN THE ECMWF. ON THE LOW LEVEL THERMAL FIELD OVERALL...THE CANADIAN...GFS AND UKMET WERE ABOUT THE SAME AND A LITTLE BETTER WITH THE NAM NOT TOO FAR BEHIND AND MAYBE BETTER TO THE NORTH OF THE AREA. TODAY/TONIGHT...INITIAL PROBLEM WILL BE COVERAGE AND DURATION OF SNOWFALL THIS MORNING AS A SHORTWAVE TROUGH AND LIFT FROM THE UPPER JET MOVE THROUGH. GOING BY THE DNR 00Z SOUNDING...THE BEST MOISTURE IS ABOVE 700 MB AND REALITY IS SUPPORTING THAT. SO FAR VISIBILITIES/OBSERVATIONS AND CAMERAS SHOW LITTLE IF ANY ACCUMULATION...EVEN UNDER THE MOST INTENSE BAND THAT IS ALONG THE KANSAS AND NEBRASKA BORDER. TEMPERATURE AND DEWPOINT SPREADS ARE LARGE...ESPECIALLY IN THE NORTH WHERE THE RADAR SAYS THE MOST INTENSE PRECIPITATION IS. MOST OF THE MODELS SAY THAT MEASURABLE SHOULD BE OCCURRING AT THIS TIME WITH RUC HAVING THE LEAST MEASURABLE AND LOOKING THE BEST AT THIS TIME. RIGHT REAR QUADRANT SHOULD BE EAST OF THE AREA BY 12Z. 7-5H SHORTWAVE LOOKS TO BE ENTERING THE WESTERN PORTION OF THE FORECAST AREA AT THIS TIME. SOME PV MOVES ACROSS EARLY WITH THE BRUNT OF IT NORTH. DOWNGLIDE ALSO MOVES IN RATHER QUICKLY THIS MORNING. WILL CONTINUE TO WATCH TRENDS FOR CHANGES BUT PLAN ON TAKING THE MEASURABLE OUT AND HAVE FLURRIES OVER MOST OF THE AREA THIS MORNING WITH MAYBE A LITTLE LINGERING IN THE FAR EAST INTO THE EARLY AFTERNOON. QUESTION THEN BECOMES HOW FAST WE CLEAR OUT AND ITS AFFECT ON HIGH TEMPERATURES. STRONG JET ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE UPPER TROUGH DOES NOT GET CLOSE TO THE AREA UNTIL LATE IN THE DAY. BASED ON SATELLITE...WE SHOULD CLEAR OUT RATHER QUICKLY WITH THE MODELS LOOKING LIKE THEY ARE HANGING ONTO CLOUDS A LITTLE TOO LONG. CURRENTLY TEMPERATURES ARE RUNNING A LITTLE WARMER THAN DEPICTED BUT CLEARING AND TEMPERATURES UPSTREAM SUPPORT MINS GETTING NEAR WHAT IS CALLED FOR. MODEL GUIDANCE IS SIMILAR IN ITS DEPICTION AND MADE SLIGHT ADJUSTMENTS BASED ON LATEST TRENDS/GUIDANCE. ANOTHER CONCERN WILL BE WINDS ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE SYSTEM AS IT EXITS. LOOKS LIKE WILL HAVE GOOD SUBSIDENCE AND ADIABATIC LAPSE RATES. SO IT LOOKS LIKE WE WILL SEE A BRIEF PERIOD OF AT LEAST BREEZY AND GUSTY WINDS THIS AFTERNOON BUT DO NOT SEE ANYTHING GETTING OUT OF HAND. JET AXIS MOVES ACROSS THE AREA DURING THE NIGHT...AND AFFECTS THE NORTHEAST HALF OF THE AREA BY 12Z. THAT AND ANOTHER SHORTWAVE WILL INCREASE THE CLOUDS AFTER 06Z. NEXT QUESTION WILL BE HOW FAST THE SURFACE MOVES THROUGH AND HOW FAST DO THE WINDS INCREASE. LIKE THE SLIGHTLY SLOWER EVOLUTION AND THINK THE GFS IS TOO FAST. AT THIS TIME...IT LOOKS LIKE TEMPERATURES WILL BOTTOM OUT EARLY... ESPECIALLY IN THE WEST AND THEN REMAIN STEADY AFTER THAT. THURSDAY/THURSDAY NIGHT...RIGHT REAR QUADRANT OF THE JET REMAINS NEAR OR OVER THE AREA THROUGH THE DAY. SOME DIFFERENCE IN THE AMOUNT OF CLOUD COVER WITH MOST OF THE MODELS SHOWING A MOSTLY SUNNY TO A PARTLY SUNNY DAY. AS HAS BEEN THE CASE IN THIS FLOW...CLOUDS MAY BE A LITTLE MORE THAN CURRENTLY THINK. SHOULD START OFF WITH DOWNSLOPE WINDS BUT THEN THEY SHIFT TO THE SOUTH AS LEE TROUGH STRENGTHENS. MODELS DO NOT LOOK AS STRONG ON THE WINDS AS YESTERDAY AS MIXING AND GRADIENT ARE NOT AS STRONG AS PREVIOUSLY DEPICTED. STRONGEST WINDS WILL BE IN THE EAST. SOME DIFFERENCES IN THE DEPICTED MAXES. THE 06Z NAM HAS COOLED THINGS OFF A LITTLE FROM 00Z. AT THIS TIME...WILL TREND TOWARD THE WARMER SIDE OF THE GUIDANCE. FRIDAY/FRIDAY NIGHT...COMPLEX JET SETUP BEGINS DURING THE DAY. NORTHERN STREAM REMAINS WELL NORTHWEST OF THE AREA THROUGH THE DAY. HOWEVER...LEFT FRONT QUADRANT OF A SOUTHERN JET DEVELOPS OR STRENGTHENS OVER THE AREA THROUGH THE DAY...ESPECIALLY IN THE AFTERNOON. THERE LOOKS TO BE SOME INCREASING HIGH CLOUDS IN THE AFTERNOON. CONSIDERING WHAT THE JET IS DOING AND THE STRONG SOUTHWESTERLY FLOW...LIKE WHAT THE NAM AND ECMWF ARE SHOWING WITH A STRENGTHENING AND FURTHER WEST LEE TROUGH. THIS MEANS LESS OF A DOWNSLOPE COMPONENT AND IF MODELS ARE CORRECT MORE OF AN EASTERLY COMPONENT AS THE DAY WHERES ON. SO WILL TREND TOWARD THE COOLER SIDE OF GUIDANCE. AS A SIDE NOTE...DUE TO A MORE EASTERLY WIND AND HIGHER DEWPOINTS... BELIEVE SHOULD NOT SEE ANY FIRE WEATHER CONCERNS DESPITE THE WARMER TEMPERATURES. BULLER FOR THE PERIOD SATURDAY THROUGH TUESDAY...SHORTWAVE WILL EJECT ACROSS THE CENTRAL PLAINS SATURDAY FROM BASE OF WEST COAST MEAN TROUGH. TRACK OF THE UPPER SYSTEM AND MOISTURE PROFILES SUGGEST FROPA WILL BE DRY. THERE MAY BE A PERIOD OF GUSTY NORTH WINDS BEHIND THE FRONT SOMETIME ON SATURDAY. COLDER TEMPERATURES WILL FOLLOW ON SUNDAY...LOW TO MIDDLE 40S FOR HIGHS...WHICH IS AROUND 10 DEGREES BELOW NORMAL. RETURN FLOW GETS UNDER WAY FOR MONDAY UNDER SHORTWAVE RIDGING ALOFT WITH TEMPERATURES WARMING TO NEAR NORMAL AND CONTINUED DRY. REMNANTS OF WEST COAST SYSTEM COMES ACROSS SOUTHERN ROCKIES ON TUESDAY BRINGING A CHANCE OF MAINLY RAIN...BEST CHANCES WILL BE SOUTH. 024 THANKS TO ALL THAT COLLABORATED. && .AVIATION... 1010 AM MST WED NOV 16 2011 FOR THE 18Z TAFS...VFR CONDITIONS EXPECTED TO PREVAIL THROUGH THE EFFECTIVE TAF PERIOD AT BOTH KGLD AND KMCK. MVFR CIGS/VIS ASSOCIATED WITH LINGERING LIGHT SNOW OVER KMCK CURRENTLY EXPECTED TO IMPROVE TO VFR BY 18Z BASED ON CURRENT RADAR/SATELLITE TRENDS. WILL CONTINUE TO MONITOR TRENDS UP TO TAF ISSUANCE IN THE EVENT SNOW IS SLOWER TO MOVE EAST OF THE TERMINAL. GUSTY NORTHWEST WINDS STILL EXPECTED TO DEVELOP THIS AFTERNOON BEHIND DEPARTING SHORTWAVE TROUGH...BEFORE DECREASING AROUND 00Z AS SURFACE HIGH PRESSURE SETTLES IN OVER THE REGION AND DAYTIME MIXING COMES TO AN END. WINDS WILL INCREASE TO 12-14KT FROM THE WEST TO THE EAST 09-12Z THU IN RESPONSE TO LEE TROUGH DEVELOPMENT OVER EASTERN COLORADO. DR && .GLD WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... KS...NONE. NE...NONE. CO...NONE. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS GOODLAND KS
604 AM MST WED NOV 16 2011 .UPDATE... 601 AM MST WED NOV 16 2011 JUST COMPLETED AN UPDATE. PERSISTENT BANDS CONTINUE OVER NORTHERN AND EASTERN SECTIONS...AND ARE PRODUCING MORE THAN FLURRIES. MOST INTENSE BAND IS OVER NORTHERN SECTIONS AT THIS TIME. SO INCREASED POPS IN THOSE AREAS. ALSO INCREASED CLOUD COVER PER LATEST SATELLITE AND UPDATED HOURLY TEMPERATURE...DEWPOINT...AND WIND GRIDS FOR THIS MORNING. BULLER && .DISCUSSION... 301 AM MST WED NOV 16 2011 FORECAST PROBLEMS WILL BE TODAY...AND THEN HOW FAST IS THE TEMPERATURE RECOVERY INTO FRIDAY. SATELLITE SHOWING SOME AMPLIFICATION TO THE FLOW FROM THE WESTERN PACIFIC INTO CENTRAL NORTH AMERICA. UPPER TROUGH IS STILL HANGING AROUND OVER THE CENTRAL PORTION OF THE COUNTRY WITH NUMEROUS SHORTWAVE TROUGHS MOVING THROUGH IT. COLD FRONT THAT WENT THROUGH EARLIER TODAY EXTENDS FROM THE SOUTHERN PLAINS TO ALONG THE FRONT RANGE OF COLORADO. MODELS INITIALIZED FINE AT JET LEVEL. MODELS INITIALIZED FINE AT MID LEVELS EXCEPT THE GFS WAS TOO MOIST. THE MODELS TENDED TO BE SLIGHTLY TOO FAR EAST AND SOUTH WITH THE SURFACE RIDGE AND THE LEE SURFACE TROUGH. HOWEVER...THE NAM WAS PRETTY CLOSE AND SLIGHTLY BETTER THAN THE ECMWF. ON THE LOW LEVEL THERMAL FIELD OVERALL...THE CANADIAN...GFS AND UKMET WERE ABOUT THE SAME AND A LITTLE BETTER WITH THE NAM NOT TOO FAR BEHIND AND MAYBE BETTER TO THE NORTH OF THE AREA. TODAY/TONIGHT...INITIAL PROBLEM WILL BE COVERAGE AND DURATION OF SNOWFALL THIS MORNING AS A SHORTWAVE TROUGH AND LIFT FROM THE UPPER JET MOVE THROUGH. GOING BY THE DNR 00Z SOUNDING...THE BEST MOISTURE IS ABOVE 700 MB AND REALITY IS SUPPORTING THAT. SO FAR VISIBILITIES/OBSERVATIONS AND CAMERAS SHOW LITTLE IF ANY ACCUMULATION...EVEN UNDER THE MOST INTENSE BAND THAT IS ALONG THE KANSAS AND NEBRASKA BORDER. TEMPERATURE AND DEWPOINT SPREADS ARE LARGE...ESPECIALLY IN THE NORTH WHERE THE RADAR SAYS THE MOST INTENSE PRECIPITATION IS. MOST OF THE MODELS SAY THAT MEASURABLE SHOULD BE OCCURRING AT THIS TIME WITH RUC HAVING THE LEAST MEASURABLE AND LOOKING THE BEST AT THIS TIME. RIGHT REAR QUADRANT SHOULD BE EAST OF THE AREA BY 12Z. 7-5H SHORTWAVE LOOKS TO BE ENTERING THE WESTERN PORTION OF THE FORECAST AREA AT THIS TIME. SOME PV MOVES ACROSS EARLY WITH THE BRUNT OF IT NORTH. DOWNGLIDE ALSO MOVES IN RATHER QUICKLY THIS MORNING. WILL CONTINUE TO WATCH TRENDS FOR CHANGES BUT PLAN ON TAKING THE MEASURABLE OUT AND HAVE FLURRIES OVER MOST OF THE AREA THIS MORNING WITH MAYBE A LITTLE LINGERING IN THE FAR EAST INTO THE EARLY AFTERNOON. QUESTION THEN BECOMES HOW FAST WE CLEAR OUT AND ITS AFFECT ON HIGH TEMPERATURES. STRONG JET ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE UPPER TROUGH DOES NOT GET CLOSE TO THE AREA UNTIL LATE IN THE DAY. BASED ON SATELLITE...WE SHOULD CLEAR OUT RATHER QUICKLY WITH THE MODELS LOOKING LIKE THEY ARE HANGING ONTO CLOUDS A LITTLE TOO LONG. CURRENTLY TEMPERATURES ARE RUNNING A LITTLE WARMER THAN DEPICTED BUT CLEARING AND TEMPERATURES UPSTREAM SUPPORT MINS GETTING NEAR WHAT IS CALLED FOR. MODEL GUIDANCE IS SIMILAR IN ITS DEPICTION AND MADE SLIGHT ADJUSTMENTS BASED ON LATEST TRENDS/GUIDANCE. ANOTHER CONCERN WILL BE WINDS ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE SYSTEM AS IT EXITS. LOOKS LIKE WILL HAVE GOOD SUBSIDENCE AND ADIABATIC LAPSE RATES. SO IT LOOKS LIKE WE WILL SEE A BRIEF PERIOD OF AT LEAST BREEZY AND GUSTY WINDS THIS AFTERNOON BUT DO NOT SEE ANYTHING GETTING OUT OF HAND. JET AXIS MOVES ACROSS THE AREA DURING THE NIGHT...AND AFFECTS THE NORTHEAST HALF OF THE AREA BY 12Z. THAT AND ANOTHER SHORTWAVE WILL INCREASE THE CLOUDS AFTER 06Z. NEXT QUESTION WILL BE HOW FAST THE SURFACE MOVES THROUGH AND HOW FAST DO THE WINDS INCREASE. LIKE THE SLIGHTLY SLOWER EVOLUTION AND THINK THE GFS IS TOO FAST. AT THIS TIME...IT LOOKS LIKE TEMPERATURES WILL BOTTOM OUT EARLY... ESPECIALLY IN THE WEST AND THEN REMAIN STEADY AFTER THAT. THURSDAY/THURSDAY NIGHT...RIGHT REAR QUADRANT OF THE JET REMAINS NEAR OR OVER THE AREA THROUGH THE DAY. SOME DIFFERENCE IN THE AMOUNT OF CLOUD COVER WITH MOST OF THE MODELS SHOWING A MOSTLY SUNNY TO A PARTLY SUNNY DAY. AS HAS BEEN THE CASE IN THIS FLOW...CLOUDS MAY BE A LITTLE MORE THAN CURRENTLY THINK. SHOULD START OFF WITH DOWNSLOPE WINDS BUT THEN THEY SHIFT TO THE SOUTH AS LEE TROUGH STRENGTHENS. MODELS DO NOT LOOK AS STRONG ON THE WINDS AS YESTERDAY AS MIXING AND GRADIENT ARE NOT AS STRONG AS PREVIOUSLY DEPICTED. STRONGEST WINDS WILL BE IN THE EAST. SOME DIFFERENCES IN THE DEPICTED MAXES. THE 06Z NAM HAS COOLED THINGS OFF A LITTLE FROM 00Z. AT THIS TIME...WILL TREND TOWARD THE WARMER SIDE OF THE GUIDANCE. FRIDAY/FRIDAY NIGHT...COMPLEX JET SETUP BEGINS DURING THE DAY. NORTHERN STREAM REMAINS WELL NORTHWEST OF THE AREA THROUGH THE DAY. HOWEVER...LEFT FRONT QUADRANT OF A SOUTHERN JET DEVELOPS OR STRENGTHENS OVER THE AREA THROUGH THE DAY...ESPECIALLY IN THE AFTERNOON. THERE LOOKS TO BE SOME INCREASING HIGH CLOUDS IN THE AFTERNOON. CONSIDERING WHAT THE JET IS DOING AND THE STRONG SOUTHWESTERLY FLOW...LIKE WHAT THE NAM AND ECMWF ARE SHOWING WITH A STRENGTHENING AND FURTHER WEST LEE TROUGH. THIS MEANS LESS OF A DOWNSLOPE COMPONENT AND IF MODELS ARE CORRECT MORE OF AN EASTERLY COMPONENT AS THE DAY WHERES ON. SO WILL TREND TOWARD THE COOLER SIDE OF GUIDANCE. AS A SIDE NOTE...DUE TO A MORE EASTERLY WIND AND HIGHER DEWPOINTS... BELIEVE SHOULD NOT SEE ANY FIRE WEATHER CONCERNS DESPITE THE WARMER TEMPERATURES. BULLER FOR THE PERIOD SATURDAY THROUGH TUESDAY...SHORTWAVE WILL EJECT ACROSS THE CENTRAL PLAINS SATURDAY FROM BASE OF WEST COAST MEAN TROUGH. TRACK OF THE UPPER SYSTEM AND MOISTURE PROFILES SUGGEST FROPA WILL BE DRY. THERE MAY BE A PERIOD OF GUSTY NORTH WINDS BEHIND THE FRONT SOMETIME ON SATURDAY. COLDER TEMPERATURES WILL FOLLOW ON SUNDAY...LOW TO MIDDLE 40S FOR HIGHS...WHICH IS AROUND 10 DEGREES BELOW NORMAL. RETURN FLOW GETS UNDER WAY FOR MONDAY UNDER SHORTWAVE RIDGING ALOFT WITH TEMPERATURES WARMING TO NEAR NORMAL AND CONTINUED DRY. REMNANTS OF WEST COAST SYSTEM COMES ACROSS SOUTHERN ROCKIES ON TUESDAY BRINGING A CHANCE OF MAINLY RAIN...BEST CHANCES WILL BE SOUTH. 024 THANKS TO ALL THAT COLLABORATED. && .AVIATION... 427 AM MST WED NOV 16 2011 FLURRIES WILL MOVE THROUGH THE REGION THIS MORNING BUT NOT EXPECTED TO IMPACT FLIGHT CATEGORIES AT EITHER KGLD OR KMCK. NORTHWEST WINDS WILL INCREASE BY THE AFTERNOON BEHIND DEPARTING SYSTEM WITH A FEW GUSTS TO 25KTS BEFORE DIMINISHING AT SUNSET. 024 && .GLD WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... KS...NONE. NE...NONE. CO...NONE. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS GOODLAND KS
427 AM MST WED NOV 16 2011 .DISCUSSION... 301 AM MST WED NOV 16 2011 FORECAST PROBLEMS WILL BE TODAY...AND THEN HOW FAST IS THE TEMPERATURE RECOVERY INTO FRIDAY. SATELLITE SHOWING SOME AMPLIFICATION TO THE FLOW FROM THE WESTERN PACIFIC INTO CENTRAL NORTH AMERICA. UPPER TROUGH IS STILL HANGING AROUND OVER THE CENTRAL PORTION OF THE COUNTRY WITH NUMEROUS SHORTWAVE TROUGHS MOVING THROUGH IT. COLD FRONT THAT WENT THROUGH EARLIER TODAY EXTENDS FROM THE SOUTHERN PLAINS TO ALONG THE FRONT RANGE OF COLORADO. MODELS INITIALIZED FINE AT JET LEVEL. MODELS INITIALIZED FINE AT MID LEVELS EXCEPT THE GFS WAS TOO MOIST. THE MODELS TENDED TO BE SLIGHTLY TOO FAR EAST AND SOUTH WITH THE SURFACE RIDGE AND THE LEE SURFACE TROUGH. HOWEVER...THE NAM WAS PRETTY CLOSE AND SLIGHTLY BETTER THAN THE ECMWF. ON THE LOW LEVEL THERMAL FIELD OVERALL...THE CANADIAN...GFS AND UKMET WERE ABOUT THE SAME AND A LITTLE BETTER WITH THE NAM NOT TOO FAR BEHIND AND MAYBE BETTER TO THE NORTH OF THE AREA. TODAY/TONIGHT...INITIAL PROBLEM WILL BE COVERAGE AND DURATION OF SNOWFALL THIS MORNING AS A SHORTWAVE TROUGH AND LIFT FROM THE UPPER JET MOVE THROUGH. GOING BY THE DNR 00Z SOUNDING...THE BEST MOISTURE IS ABOVE 700 MB AND REALITY IS SUPPORTING THAT. SO FAR VISIBILITIES/OBSERVATIONS AND CAMERAS SHOW LITTLE IF ANY ACCUMULATION...EVEN UNDER THE MOST INTENSE BAND THAT IS ALONG THE KANSAS AND NEBRASKA BORDER. TEMPERATURE AND DEWPOINT SPREADS ARE LARGE...ESPECIALLY IN THE NORTH WHERE THE RADAR SAYS THE MOST INTENSE PRECIPITATION IS. MOST OF THE MODELS SAY THAT MEASURABLE SHOULD BE OCCURRING AT THIS TIME WITH RUC HAVING THE LEAST MEASURABLE AND LOOKING THE BEST AT THIS TIME. RIGHT REAR QUADRANT SHOULD BE EAST OF THE AREA BY 12Z. 7-5H SHORTWAVE LOOKS TO BE ENTERING THE WESTERN PORTION OF THE FORECAST AREA AT THIS TIME. SOME PV MOVES ACROSS EARLY WITH THE BRUNT OF IT NORTH. DOWNGLIDE ALSO MOVES IN RATHER QUICKLY THIS MORNING. WILL CONTINUE TO WATCH TRENDS FOR CHANGES BUT PLAN ON TAKING THE MEASURABLE OUT AND HAVE FLURRIES OVER MOST OF THE AREA THIS MORNING WITH MAYBE A LITTLE LINGERING IN THE FAR EAST INTO THE EARLY AFTERNOON. QUESTION THEN BECOMES HOW FAST WE CLEAR OUT AND ITS AFFECT ON HIGH TEMPERATURES. STRONG JET ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE UPPER TROUGH DOES NOT GET CLOSE TO THE AREA UNTIL LATE IN THE DAY. BASED ON SATELLITE...WE SHOULD CLEAR OUT RATHER QUICKLY WITH THE MODELS LOOKING LIKE THEY ARE HANGING ONTO CLOUDS A LITTLE TOO LONG. CURRENTLY TEMPERATURES ARE RUNNING A LITTLE WARMER THAN DEPICTED BUT CLEARING AND TEMPERATURES UPSTREAM SUPPORT MINS GETTING NEAR WHAT IS CALLED FOR. MODEL GUIDANCE IS SIMILAR IN ITS DEPICTION AND MADE SLIGHT ADJUSTMENTS BASED ON LATEST TRENDS/GUIDANCE. ANOTHER CONCERN WILL BE WINDS ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE SYSTEM AS IT EXITS. LOOKS LIKE WILL HAVE GOOD SUBSIDENCE AND ADIABATIC LAPSE RATES. SO IT LOOKS LIKE WE WILL SEE A BRIEF PERIOD OF AT LEAST BREEZY AND GUSTY WINDS THIS AFTERNOON BUT DO NOT SEE ANYTHING GETTING OUT OF HAND. JET AXIS MOVES ACROSS THE AREA DURING THE NIGHT...AND AFFECTS THE NORTHEAST HALF OF THE AREA BY 12Z. THAT AND ANOTHER SHORTWAVE WILL INCREASE THE CLOUDS AFTER 06Z. NEXT QUESTION WILL BE HOW FAST THE SURFACE MOVES THROUGH AND HOW FAST DO THE WINDS INCREASE. LIKE THE SLIGHTLY SLOWER EVOLUTION AND THINK THE GFS IS TOO FAST. AT THIS TIME...IT LOOKS LIKE TEMPERATURES WILL BOTTOM OUT EARLY... ESPECIALLY IN THE WEST AND THEN REMAIN STEADY AFTER THAT. THURSDAY/THURSDAY NIGHT...RIGHT REAR QUADRANT OF THE JET REMAINS NEAR OR OVER THE AREA THROUGH THE DAY. SOME DIFFERENCE IN THE AMOUNT OF CLOUD COVER WITH MOST OF THE MODELS SHOWING A MOSTLY SUNNY TO A PARTLY SUNNY DAY. AS HAS BEEN THE CASE IN THIS FLOW...CLOUDS MAY BE A LITTLE MORE THAN CURRENTLY THINK. SHOULD START OFF WITH DOWNSLOPE WINDS BUT THEN THEY SHIFT TO THE SOUTH AS LEE TROUGH STRENGTHENS. MODELS DO NOT LOOK AS STRONG ON THE WINDS AS YESTERDAY AS MIXING AND GRADIENT ARE NOT AS STRONG AS PREVIOUSLY DEPICTED. STRONGEST WINDS WILL BE IN THE EAST. SOME DIFFERENCES IN THE DEPICTED MAXES. THE 06Z NAM HAS COOLED THINGS OFF A LITTLE FROM 00Z. AT THIS TIME...WILL TREND TOWARD THE WARMER SIDE OF THE GUIDANCE. FRIDAY/FRIDAY NIGHT...COMPLEX JET SETUP BEGINS DURING THE DAY. NORTHERN STREAM REMAINS WELL NORTHWEST OF THE AREA THROUGH THE DAY. HOWEVER...LEFT FRONT QUADRANT OF A SOUTHERN JET DEVELOPS OR STRENGTHENS OVER THE AREA THROUGH THE DAY...ESPECIALLY IN THE AFTERNOON. THERE LOOKS TO BE SOME INCREASING HIGH CLOUDS IN THE AFTERNOON. CONSIDERING WHAT THE JET IS DOING AND THE STRONG SOUTHWESTERLY FLOW...LIKE WHAT THE NAM AND ECMWF ARE SHOWING WITH A STRENGTHENING AND FURTHER WEST LEE TROUGH. THIS MEANS LESS OF A DOWNSLOPE COMPONENT AND IF MODELS ARE CORRECT MORE OF AN EASTERLY COMPONENT AS THE DAY WHERES ON. SO WILL TREND TOWARD THE COOLER SIDE OF GUIDANCE. AS A SIDE NOTE...DUE TO A MORE EASTERLY WIND AND HIGHER DEWPOINTS... BELIEVE SHOULD NOT SEE ANY FIRE WEATHER CONCERNS DESPITE THE WARMER TEMPERATURES. BULLER FOR THE PERIOD SATURDAY THROUGH TUESDAY...SHORTWAVE WILL EJECT ACROSS THE CENTRAL PLAINS SATURDAY FROM BASE OF WEST COAST MEAN TROUGH. TRACK OF THE UPPER SYSTEM AND MOISTURE PROFILES SUGGEST FROPA WILL BE DRY. THERE MAY BE A PERIOD OF GUSTY NORTH WINDS BEHIND THE FRONT SOMETIME ON SATURDAY. COLDER TEMPERATURES WILL FOLLOW ON SUNDAY...LOW TO MIDDLE 40S FOR HIGHS...WHICH IS AROUND 10 DEGREES BELOW NORMAL. RETURN FLOW GETS UNDER WAY FOR MONDAY UNDER SHORTWAVE RIDGING ALOFT WITH TEMPERATURES WARMING TO NEAR NORMAL AND CONTINUED DRY. REMNANTS OF WEST COAST SYSTEM COMES ACROSS SOUTHERN ROCKIES ON TUESDAY BRINGING A CHANCE OF MAINLY RAIN...BEST CHANCES WILL BE SOUTH. 024 THANKS TO ALL THAT COLLABORATED. && .AVIATION... 427 AM MST WED NOV 16 2011 FLURRIES WILL MOVE THROUGH THE REGION THIS MORNING BUT NOT EXPECTED TO IMPACT FLIGHT CATEGORIES AT EITHER KGLD OR KMCK. NORTHWEST WINDS WILL INCREASE BY THE AFTERNOON BEHIND DEPARTING SYSTEM WITH A FEW GUSTS TO 25KTS BEFORE DIMINISHING AT SUNSET. 024 && .GLD WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... KS...NONE. NE...NONE. CO...NONE. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS GOODLAND KS
301 AM MST WED NOV 16 2011 .DISCUSSION... 301 AM MST WED NOV 16 2011 FORECAST PROBLEMS WILL BE TODAY...AND THEN HOW FAST IS THE TEMPERATURE RECOVERY INTO FRIDAY. SATELLITE SHOWING SOME AMPLIFICATION TO THE FLOW FROM THE WESTERN PACIFIC INTO CENTRAL NORTH AMERICA. UPPER TROUGH IS STILL HANGING AROUND OVER THE CENTRAL PORTION OF THE COUNTRY WITH NUMEROUS SHORTWAVE TROUGHS MOVING THROUGH IT. COLD FRONT THAT WENT THROUGH EARLIER TODAY EXTENDS FROM THE SOUTHERN PLAINS TO ALONG THE FRONT RANGE OF COLORADO. MODELS INITIALIZED FINE AT JET LEVEL. MODELS INITIALIZED FINE AT MID LEVELS EXCEPT THE GFS WAS TOO MOIST. THE MODELS TENDED TO BE SLIGHTLY TOO FAR EAST AND SOUTH WITH THE SURFACE RIDGE AND THE LEE SURFACE TROUGH. HOWEVER...THE NAM WAS PRETTY CLOSE AND SLIGHTLY BETTER THAN THE ECMWF. ON THE LOW LEVEL THERMAL FIELD OVERALL...THE CANADIAN...GFS AND UKMET WERE ABOUT THE SAME AND A LITTLE BETTER WITH THE NAM NOT TOO FAR BEHIND AND MAYBE BETTER TO THE NORTH OF THE AREA. TODAY/TONIGHT...INITIAL PROBLEM WILL BE COVERAGE AND DURATION OF SNOWFALL THIS MORNING AS A SHORTWAVE TROUGH AND LIFT FROM THE UPPER JET MOVE THROUGH. GOING BY THE DNR 00Z SOUNDING...THE BEST MOISTURE IS ABOVE 700 MB AND REALITY IS SUPPORTING THAT. SO FAR VISIBILITIES/OBSERVATIONS AND CAMERAS SHOW LITTLE IF ANY ACCUMULATION...EVEN UNDER THE MOST INTENSE BAND THAT IS ALONG THE KANSAS AND NEBRASKA BORDER. TEMPERATURE AND DEWPOINT SPREADS ARE LARGE...ESPECIALLY IN THE NORTH WHERE THE RADAR SAYS THE MOST INTENSE PRECIPITATION IS. MOST OF THE MODELS SAY THAT MEASURABLE SHOULD BE OCCURRING AT THIS TIME WITH RUC HAVING THE LEAST MEASURABLE AND LOOKING THE BEST AT THIS TIME. RIGHT REAR QUADRANT SHOULD BE EAST OF THE AREA BY 12Z. 7-5H SHORTWAVE LOOKS TO BE ENTERING THE WESTERN PORTION OF THE FORECAST AREA AT THIS TIME. SOME PV MOVES ACROSS EARLY WITH THE BRUNT OF IT NORTH. DOWNGLIDE ALSO MOVES IN RATHER QUICKLY THIS MORNING. WILL CONTINUE TO WATCH TRENDS FOR CHANGES BUT PLAN ON TAKING THE MEASURABLE OUT AND HAVE FLURRIES OVER MOST OF THE AREA THIS MORNING WITH MAYBE A LITTLE LINGERING IN THE FAR EAST INTO THE EARLY AFTERNOON. QUESTION THEN BECOMES HOW FAST WE CLEAR OUT AND ITS AFFECT ON HIGH TEMPERATURES. STRONG JET ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE UPPER TROUGH DOES NOT GET CLOSE TO THE AREA UNTIL LATE IN THE DAY. BASED ON SATELLITE...WE SHOULD CLEAR OUT RATHER QUICKLY WITH THE MODELS LOOKING LIKE THEY ARE HANGING ONTO CLOUDS A LITTLE TOO LONG. CURRENTLY TEMPERATURES ARE RUNNING A LITTLE WARMER THAN DEPICTED BUT CLEARING AND TEMPERATURES UPSTREAM SUPPORT MINS GETTING NEAR WHAT IS CALLED FOR. MODEL GUIDANCE IS SIMILAR IN ITS DEPICTION AND MADE SLIGHT ADJUSTMENTS BASED ON LATEST TRENDS/GUIDANCE. ANOTHER CONCERN WILL BE WINDS ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE SYSTEM AS IT EXITS. LOOKS LIKE WILL HAVE GOOD SUBSIDENCE AND ADIABATIC LAPSE RATES. SO IT LOOKS LIKE WE WILL SEE A BRIEF PERIOD OF AT LEAST BREEZY AND GUSTY WINDS THIS AFTERNOON BUT DO NOT SEE ANYTHING GETTING OUT OF HAND. JET AXIS MOVES ACROSS THE AREA DURING THE NIGHT...AND AFFECTS THE NORTHEAST HALF OF THE AREA BY 12Z. THAT AND ANOTHER SHORTWAVE WILL INCREASE THE CLOUDS AFTER 06Z. NEXT QUESTION WILL BE HOW FAST THE SURFACE MOVES THROUGH AND HOW FAST DO THE WINDS INCREASE. LIKE THE SLIGHTLY SLOWER EVOLUTION AND THINK THE GFS IS TOO FAST. AT THIS TIME...IT LOOKS LIKE TEMPERATURES WILL BOTTOM OUT EARLY... ESPECIALLY IN THE WEST AND THEN REMAIN STEADY AFTER THAT. THURSDAY/THURSDAY NIGHT...RIGHT REAR QUADRANT OF THE JET REMAINS NEAR OR OVER THE AREA THROUGH THE DAY. SOME DIFFERENCE IN THE AMOUNT OF CLOUD COVER WITH MOST OF THE MODELS SHOWING A MOSTLY SUNNY TO A PARTLY SUNNY DAY. AS HAS BEEN THE CASE IN THIS FLOW...CLOUDS MAY BE A LITTLE MORE THAN CURRENTLY THINK. SHOULD START OFF WITH DOWNSLOPE WINDS BUT THEN THEY SHIFT TO THE SOUTH AS LEE TROUGH STRENGTHENS. MODELS DO NOT LOOK AS STRONG ON THE WINDS AS YESTERDAY AS MIXING AND GRADIENT ARE NOT AS STRONG AS PREVIOUSLY DEPICTED. STRONGEST WINDS WILL BE IN THE EAST. SOME DIFFERENCES IN THE DEPICTED MAXES. THE 06Z NAM HAS COOLED THINGS OFF A LITTLE FROM 00Z. AT THIS TIME...WILL TREND TOWARD THE WARMER SIDE OF THE GUIDANCE. FRIDAY/FRIDAY NIGHT...COMPLEX JET SETUP BEGINS DURING THE DAY. NORTHERN STREAM REMAINS WELL NORTHWEST OF THE AREA THROUGH THE DAY. HOWEVER...LEFT FRONT QUADRANT OF A SOUTHERN JET DEVELOPS OR STRENGTHENS OVER THE AREA THROUGH THE DAY...ESPECIALLY IN THE AFTERNOON. THERE LOOKS TO BE SOME INCREASING HIGH CLOUDS IN THE AFTERNOON. CONSIDERING WHAT THE JET IS DOING AND THE STRONG SOUTHWESTERLY FLOW...LIKE WHAT THE NAM AND ECMWF ARE SHOWING WITH A STRENGTHENING AND FURTHER WEST LEE TROUGH. THIS MEANS LESS OF A DOWNSLOPE COMPONENT AND IF MODELS ARE CORRECT MORE OF AN EASTERLY COMPONENT AS THE DAY WHERES ON. SO WILL TREND TOWARD THE COOLER SIDE OF GUIDANCE. AS A SIDE NOTE...DUE TO A MORE EASTERLY WIND AND HIGHER DEWPOINTS... BELIEVE SHOULD NOT SEE ANY FIRE WEATHER CONCERNS DESPITE THE WARMER TEMPERATURES. BULLER FOR THE PERIOD SATURDAY THROUGH TUESDAY...SHORTWAVE WILL EJECT ACROSS THE CENTRAL PLAINS SATURDAY FROM BASE OF WEST COAST MEAN TROUGH. TRACK OF THE UPPER SYSTEM AND MOISTURE PROFILES SUGGEST FROPA WILL BE DRY. THERE MAY BE A PERIOD OF GUSTY NORTH WINDS BEHIND THE FRONT SOMETIME ON SATURDAY. COLDER TEMPERATURES WILL FOLLOW ON SUNDAY...LOW TO MIDDLE 40S FOR HIGHS...WHICH IS AROUND 10 DEGREES BELOW NORMAL. RETURN FLOW GETS UNDER WAY FOR MONDAY UNDER SHORTWAVE RIDGING ALOFT WITH TEMPERATURES WARMING TO NEAR NORMAL AND CONTINUED DRY. REMNANTS OF WEST COAST SYSTEM COMES ACROSS SOUTHERN ROCKIES ON TUESDAY BRINGING A CHANCE OF MAINLY RAIN...BEST CHANCES WILL BE SOUTH. JK THANKS TO ALL THAT COLLABORATED. && .AVIATION... 1047 PM MST TUE NOV 15 2011 CLOUD COVER WILL INCREASE WITH CEILINGS BECOMING LOWER AS A FAST MOVING DISTURBANCE MOVES ACROSS THE CENTRAL HIGH PLAINS OVERNIGHT. CONDITIONS WILL START OUT VFR TONIGHT...BUT WILL LIKELY SEE A DROP TO MVFR AS CEILINGS LOWER BETWEEN 09 AND 17Z AT KGLD. THERE WILL ALSO BE THE POSSIBILITY OF LIGHT SNOW MAINLY BETWEEN 09 AND 14 Z AT KGLD. KMCK WILL SEE A DROP TO MVFR AFTER 11Z THAT CONTINUES THROUGH 19Z. LIGHT SNOW IS POSSIBLE AT KMCK, BUT IT SEEMS SLIGHTLY LESS LIKELY THAN KGLD AND LEFT IT OUT. CEILINGS WILL RISE AGAIN WITH A RETURN TO VFR CONDITIONS AS WINDS TURN NORTHWESTERLY AND BECOME GUSTY AFTER ABOUT 19Z AS THE SYSTEM BEGINS TO MOVE OUT OF THE AREA. WINDS WILL DIMINISH AND TURN SOUTHWESTERLY AFTER 00Z ALONG WITH SKIES CLEARING OUT. LOCKHART && .GLD WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... KS...NONE. NE...NONE. CO...NONE. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS WAKEFIELD VA
149 PM EST WED NOV 16 2011 .SYNOPSIS... A WEAK STATIONARY FRONT WILL REMAIN OVER THE NORTHERN MID ATLANTIC REGION THIS AFTERNOON AS A COLD FRONT APPROACHES FROM THE WEST. THE COLD FRONT PASSES THROUGH TONIGHT...WITH HIGH PRESSURE RETURNING LATE THURSDAY AND INTO THE WEEKEND. ANOTHER COLD FRONT APPROACHES SUNDAY NIGHT INTO MONDAY. && .NEAR TERM /UNTIL 6 PM THIS EVENING/... WEAK STATIONARY FRONT IS SITUATED WSW TO ENE ACRS THE CWA...FROM ABOUT FARMVILLE TO ASHLAND INTO THE MD EASTERN SHORE. STRONG TEMPERATURE GRADIENT IN PLACE...AS WELL AS PRECIPITATION CHANCES OVER THE NEXT FEW HRS. WILL CARRY CAT POPS N/NW ZONES THIS AFTN...TAPERED TO JUST 20% OVER FAR SE VA/ NE NC. HAVE ADJUSTED HIGHS A BIT TO SHARPEN THE GRADIENT AS IT WILL TEND TO STAY IN THE 60S OVER THE MD EASTERN SHORE AND TO THE NW OF RICHMOND...WHILE HIGHS AROUND 80 CAN BE EXPECTED IN A FEW SPOTS IN THE SE. WHILE A CHANCE OF THUNDERSTORMS REMAINS IN THE FORECAST FOR THIS AFTN...THINK THAT BEST CHANCE FOR SEVERE WX WILL NOT ARRIVE UNTIL THE EVENING HRS...PRIMARILY ACRS SE VA/NE NC. DOWN THAT WAY IS WHERE BEST COMBINATION OF MODEST SFC-BASED INSTABILITY (~500 J/KG) WILL CO- EXIST WITH HIGH SHEAR (0-6 KM BULK SHEAR 60 KT+) . MAIN THREAT WOULD BE DAMAGING WINDS (>40 KT OF 0-3 KM SHEAR AND DCAPE>1000 J/KG). ALSO...SOME STORMS MAY EXHIBIT ROTATION AS RUC AND NAM BOTH PROG 0-1 KM HELICITIES>300 M2/S2 AS THE BOUNDARY DROPS THROUGH BETWEEN 02-06Z. MAIN LIMITING FACTOR MAY BE LACK OF INSTABILITY DUE TO THE TIMEFRAME BEING AFTER SUNSET ALTHOUGH SFC TEMPS WILL LIKELY BE AROUND 70 F...WITH DEW PTS IN THE 60S. && .SHORT TERM /6 PM THIS EVENING THROUGH FRIDAY/... BEST PROBABILITY FOR RAIN (CATEGORICAL POPS) COMES TONIGHT DUE TO A COMBO OF ISENTROPIC LIFT AND STRONG LOW/MID LEVEL CONVERGENCE ASSOCIATED W/ COLD FRONT. RAIN WILL BE HEAVY AT TIMES AND SOME AREAS MAY RECEIVE OVER AN INCH TOTAL W/ THIS SYSTEM (ESP N PART OF FA). NO SIGNIFICANT FLOODING IS ANTICIPATED ATTM DUE TO FLASH FLOOD GUIDANCE BEING HIGH. THU...BOTH THE NAM AND THE GFS CONTINUE TO SHOW THE MID/UPPER LEVEL TROUGH NOT CROSSING THE REGION UNTIL AFTER 18Z. COMBINED WITH A NNE FLOW IN THE LOW LEVELS AND THE RRQ OF THE UPPER JET...RAIN WILL BE SLOW TO TAPER OFF AND HAVE BUMPED POPS TO CATEGORICAL FOR ALL ZONES THROUGH THE MORNING/EARLY AFTN HRS. SHARPLY COLDER AIRMASS WILL BE IN PLACE AS WELL...MAKING FOR A RAW AND CHILLY DAY WITH TEMPERATURES MAINLY IN THE 40S (AFTER EARLY AM HIGHS IN THE 50S). DECREASING CLOUDS FROM W TO E LATE (SO THAT COASTAL ZONES MAY STAY CLOUDY ALL DAY). DIMINISHING WINDS AND CLEARING SKIES WILL ALLOW FOR MINS INTO THE UPPER 20S WEST OF I-95 THU NIGHT...30-35 FARTHER EAST. STRONG HIGH PRESSURE BUILDS OVER THE MID ATLANTIC FRI LEADING TO DRY WX AND SUNNY SKIES. TEMPS WILL ONLY MAX OUT IN THE U40S-L50S. && .LONG TERM /FRIDAY NIGHT THROUGH WEDNESDAY/... LONG RANGE MODELS ARE IN GOOD AGREEMENT WITH SHOWING A SOUTHWEST UPPER LEVEL FLOW DEVELOPING SATURDAY AS HIGH PRESSURE BECOMES ANCHORED OVER THE MID ATLANTIC STATES THROUGH SUNDAY. SOME CLOUDINESS IS POSSIBLE IN NORTHEAST NC AND EXTREME SOUTHEAST VA ON SATURDAY AS TROPICAL MOISTURE ROTATES AROUND A MID-LEVEL HIGH OFF THE SOUTHEAST U.S. COAST AND MOVES NEAR THIS AREA. OTHERWISE...A DRYING AND WARMING TREND IS ANTICIPATED UNDER THIS FLOW REGIME...WITH HIGH TEMPS REBOUNDING BACK INTO THE 60S BY SUNDAY. LOWS SHOULD BE NEAR FREEZING SATURDAY MORNING DUE TO PRIME COOLING CONDITIONS UNDER MOSTLY CLEAR SKIES WITH VERY LIGHT WINDS...THEN REBOUND TOWARD THE LOW 50S BY EARLY NEXT WEEK AS CLOUDS INCREASE AHEAD OF THE NEXT WEATHER DISTURBANCE. BY LATE SUNDAY...A WEAK COLD FRONT IS EXPECTED TO SAG SOUTHWARD AND STALL OVER THE MID ATLANTIC REGION THROUGH TUESDAY. 12Z MODEL RUNS TODAY ARE HINTING AT SLOWING THE SOUTHERN MOVEMENT OF THIS BOUNDARY UNTIL LATE MONDAY...WHICH WOULD DELAY THE ONSET OF PRECIPITATION UNTIL THAT TIMEFRAME. HAVE TRENDED THE ONGOING FORECAST TOWARD SLOWING THE PASSAGE OF THE FRONT UNTIL LATE MONDAY...WITH PRECIPITATION BEING INTRODUCED LATE SUNDAY/EARLY MONDAY. && .AVIATION /19Z WEDNESDAY THROUGH MONDAY/... WEAK SFC BOUNDARY LYING ACROSS THE REGION WITH SHORT WAVE ENERGY MOVG FROM SOUTHWEST TO NORTHEAST ACROSS THE FORECAST AREA. MOST OF THE RAIN HAS MOVED ACROSS CENTRAL VA AND THE EASTERN SHORE THIS MORNING BUT WILL OVERSPREAD SE VA AND NC INTO TONIGHT. RADAR SHOWING SOME EMBEDDED CONVECTION IN THE RAIN WHICH WILL BRING BRIEF PERIODS OF HEAVY RAIN AND GUSTY WINDS. CEILINGS HAVE BEEN MOSTLY MVFR/IFR THIS MORNING AND THIS WILL GENERALLY PERSIST THRU THE AFTERNOON AND INTO THE EVENING. ANOTHER BOUNDARY (COLD FRONT) WILL MOVE THRU THE FORECAST AREA BEGINNING EARLY TONIGHT AND SHOULD BE PUSHED OFF THE COAST BY THU MORNING. MODELS SUGGEST THAT AREAS OF LOW PRESSURE WILL FORM ALONG THE FRONT AS IT MOVES THRU THE REGION AND THIS WILL HELP TO ENHANCE CHANCE OF HEAVY RAIN OR ISOLD TSTMS FOR THE OVERNIGHT PERIOD. EXPECT MOSTLY MVFR CONDITIONS WITH TEMPO IFR THRU THE OVERNIGHT. HIGH PRESSURE WILL BUILD IN LATE THU AND WILL SETTLE OVER THE AREA THU NIGHT INTO FRI. VFR AND DRY CONDITIONS WILL PREVAIL THRU THE WEEKEND. && .MARINE... HAVE EXTENDED THE SCA HEADLINE FOR ALL THE WTRS THRU LATE THU NGT...AS NNW WNDS (CAA) WILL CONTINUE AT 15 TO 25 KT AND WAVES/SEAS WILL STAY UP. SE OR S WNDS 10 KT OR LESS ERLY THIS MORNG...WILL BECOME SW AND INCRS TO 15 TO 20 KT THIS AFTN IN ADVANCE OF COLD FRNT. CUD BE GUSTS TO 25 KT. WNDS WILL SHIFT TO THE NW OR N THIS EVENG INTO ERLY THU MORNG BEHIND THE FRNT. THIS CAA SURGE WILL THEN CONTINUE FOR THE REMAINDER OF THU AND THU NGT. MORE BENIGN MARINE CONDITIONS THEN EXPECTED FRI INTO SUN...AS HI PRES BLDS OVR THE WTRS FM THE W. && .CLIMATE... RECORD HIGH TEMPS FOR NOV 16TH (WED): RIC...85 IN 1955 ORF...83 IN 1955 SBY...78 IN 1928 ECG...85 IN 1993 && .AKQ WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... MD...NONE. NC...NONE. VA...NONE. MARINE...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY UNTIL 6 AM EST FRIDAY FOR ANZ630>634-650- 652-654-656-658. && $$ SYNOPSIS...MAS NEAR TERM...LKB SHORT TERM...LKB/MAS LONG TERM...BMD AVIATION...JEF MARINE...TMG CLIMATE...
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS WAKEFIELD VA
1145 AM EST WED NOV 16 2011 .SYNOPSIS... A WEAK STATIONARY FRONT WILL REMAIN OVER THE NORTHERN MID ATLANTIC REGION THIS AFTERNOON AS A COLD FRONT APPROACHES FROM THE WEST. THE COLD FRONT PASSES THROUGH TONIGHT...WITH HIGH PRESSURE RETURNING LATE THURSDAY AND INTO THE WEEKEND. ANOTHER COLD FRONT APPROACHES SUNDAY NIGHT INTO MONDAY. && .NEAR TERM /UNTIL MIDNIGHT/... WEAK STATIONARY FRONT IS SITUATED WSW TO ENE ACRS THE CWA...FROM ABOUT FARMVILLE TO ASHLAND INTO THE MD EASTERN SHORE. STRONG TEMPERATURE GRADIENT IN PLACE...AS WELL AS PRECIPITATION CHANCES OVER THE NEXT FEW HRS. WILL CARRY CAT POPS N/NW ZONES THIS AFTN...TAPERED TO JUST 20% OVER FAR SE VA/ NE NC. HAVE ADJUSTED HIGHS A BIT TO SHARPEN THE GRADIENT AS IT WILL TEND TO STAY IN THE 60S OVER THE MD EASTERN SHORE AND TO THE NW OF RICHMOND...WHILE HIGHS AROUND 80 CAN BE EXPECTED IN A FEW SPOTS IN THE SE. WHILE A CHANCE OF THUNDERSTORMS REMAINS IN THE FORECAST FOR THIS AFTN...THINK THAT BEST CHANCE FOR SEVERE WX WILL NOT ARRIVE UNTIL THE EVENING HRS...PRIMARILY ACRS SE VA/NE NC. DOWN THAT WAY IS WHERE BEST COMBINATION OF MODEST SFC-BASED INSTABILITY (~500 J/KG) WILL CO- EXIST WITH HIGH SHEAR (0-6 KM BULK SHEAR 60 KT+) . MAIN THREAT WOULD BE DAMAGING WINDS (>40 KT OF 0-3 KM SHEAR AND DCAPE>1000 J/KG). ALSO...SOME STORMS MAY EXHIBIT ROTATION AS RUC AND NAM BOTH PROG 0-1 KM HELICITIES>300 M2/S2 AS THE BOUNDARY DROPS THROUGH BETWEEN 02-06Z. MAIN LIMITING FACTOR MAY BE LACK OF INSTABILITY DUE TO THE TIMEFRAME BEING AFTER SUNSET ALTHOUGH SFC TEMPS WILL LIKELY BE AROUND 70 F...WITH DEW PTS IN THE 60S. && .SHORT TERM /MIDNIGHT THROUGH FRIDAY/... BEST PROBABILITY FOR RAIN (CATEGORICAL POPS) COMES TONIGHT DUE TO A COMBO OF ISENTROPIC LIFT AND STRONG LOW/MID LEVEL CONVERGENCE ASSOCIATED W/ COLD FRONT. RAIN WILL BE HEAVY AT TIMES AND SOME AREAS MAY RECEIVE OVER AN INCH TOTAL W/ THIS SYSTEM (ESP N PART OF FA). NO SIGNIFICANT FLOODING IS ANTICIPATED ATTM DUE TO FLASH FLOOD GUIDANCE BEING HIGH. THU...BOTH THE NAM AND THE GFS CONTINUE TO SHOW THE MID/UPPER LEVEL TROUGH NOT CROSSING THE REGION UNTIL AFTER 18Z. COMBINED WITH A NNE FLOW IN THE LOW LEVELS AND THE RRQ OF THE UPPER JET...RAIN WILL BE SLOW TO TAPER OFF AND HAVE BUMPED POPS TO CATEGORICAL FOR ALL ZONES THROUGH THE MORNING/EARLY AFTN HRS. SHARPLY COLDER AIRMASS WILL BE IN PLACE AS WELL...MAKING FOR A RAW AND CHILLY DAY WITH TEMPERATURES MAINLY IN THE 40S (AFTER EARLY AM HIGHS IN THE 50S). DECREASING CLOUDS FROM W TO E LATE (SO THAT COASTAL ZONES MAY STAY CLOUDY ALL DAY). DIMINISHING WINDS AND CLEARING SKIES WILL ALLOW FOR MINS INTO THE UPPER 20S WEST OF I-95 THU NIGHT...30-35 FARTHER EAST. STRONG HIGH PRESSURE BUILDS OVER THE MID ATLANTIC FRI LEADING TO DRY WX AND SUNNY SKIES. TEMPS WILL ONLY MAX OUT IN THE U40S-L50S. && .LONG TERM /FRIDAY NIGHT THROUGH TUESDAY/... LONG RANGE MODELS ARE IN GOOD AGREEMENT WITH SHOWING A SOUTHWEST UPPER LEVEL FLOW DEVELOPING SATURDAY AS HIGH PRESSURE BECOMES ANCHORED OVER THE MID ATLANTIC STATES THROUGH SUNDAY. SOME CLOUDINESS IS POSSIBLE IN NORTHEAST NC AND EXTREME SOUTHEAST VA ON SATURDAY AS TROPICAL MOISTURE ROTATES AROUND A MID-LEVEL HIGH OFF THE SOUTHEAST U.S. COAST AND MOVES NEAR THIS AREA. OTHERWISE...A DRYING AND WARMING TREND IS ANTICIPATED UNDER THIS FLOW REGIME...WITH HIGH TEMPS REBOUNDING BACK INTO THE 60S BY SUNDAY. LOWS SHOULD BE NEAR FREEZING SATURDAY MORNING DUE TO PRIME COOLING CONDITIONS UNDER MOSTLY CLEAR SKIES WITH VERY LIGHT WINDS...THEN REBOUND TOWARD THE LOW 50S BY EARLY NEXT WEEK AS CLOUDS INCREASE AHEAD OF THE NEXT WEATHER DISTURBANCE. BY LATE SUNDAY...A WEAK COLD FRONT IS EXPECTED TO SAG SOUTHWARD AND STALL OVER THE MID ATLANTIC REGION THROUGH TUESDAY. 12Z MODEL RUNS TODAY ARE HINTING AT SLOWING THE SOUTHERN MOVEMENT OF THIS BOUNDARY UNTIL LATE MONDAY...WHICH WOULD DELAY THE ONSET OF PRECIPITATION UNTIL THAT TIMEFRAME. HAVE TRENDED THE ONGOING FORECAST TOWARD SLOWING THE PASSAGE OF THE FRONT UNTIL LATE MONDAY...WITH PRECIPITATION BEING INTRODUCED LATE SUNDAY/EARLY MONDAY. && .AVIATION /18Z WEDNESDAY THROUGH MONDAY/... COLD FRNT WILL APPROACH THE AREA THRU THIS MORNG...THEN DROP ACRS THE REGION THIS AFTN THRU TNGT. CIGS/VSBYS WILL QUICKLY LWR TO MVFR THEN IFR (LIFR?) DURING THIS MORNG WITH -DZ OR SCTD -SHRAS MOVNG INTO NRN AND WRN AREAS. CIGS/VSBYS WILL LIKELY LIFT TO MVFR AND VFR CONDITIONS LATER THIS MORNG AND AFTN...AS SW WNDS INCRS IN ADVANCE OF FRNT...WITH ISLTD TO SCTD SHRAS AHEAD OF AND ALNG THE FRNTL BNDRY INTO THIS EVENG. DURING THIS EVENG INTO THU MORNG...IFR (LIFR?) CONDITIONS WITH -RA EXPECTED BEHIND THE FRNT. VFR AND DRY CONDITIONS WILL RETURN THU AFTN THRU SUN. && .MARINE... HAVE EXTENDED THE SCA HEADLINE FOR ALL THE WTRS THRU LATE THU NGT...AS NNW WNDS (CAA) WILL CONTINUE AT 15 TO 25 KT AND WAVES/SEAS WILL STAY UP. SE OR S WNDS 10 KT OR LESS ERLY THIS MORNG...WILL BECOME SW AND INCRS TO 15 TO 20 KT THIS AFTN IN ADVANCE OF COLD FRNT. CUD BE GUSTS TO 25 KT. WNDS WILL SHIFT TO THE NW OR N THIS EVENG INTO ERLY THU MORNG BEHIND THE FRNT. THIS CAA SURGE WILL THEN CONTINUE FOR THE REMAINDER OF THU AND THU NGT. MORE BENIGN MARINE CONDITIONS THEN EXPECTED FRI INTO SUN...AS HI PRES BLDS OVR THE WTRS FM THE W. && .CLIMATE... RECORD HIGH TEMPS FOR NOV 16TH (WED): RIC...85 IN 1955 ORF...83 IN 1955 SBY...78 IN 1928 ECG...85 IN 1993 && .AKQ WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... MD...NONE. NC...NONE. VA...NONE. MARINE...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY UNTIL 6 AM EST FRIDAY FOR ANZ630>634-650- 652-654-656-658. && $$ SYNOPSIS...MAS NEAR TERM...LKB SHORT TERM...LKB/MAS LONG TERM...BMD AVIATION...TMG MARINE...TMG CLIMATE...AKQ
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS WAKEFIELD VA
646 AM EST WED NOV 16 2011 .SYNOPSIS... A WEAK STATIONARY FRONT WILL REMAIN OVER THE MID ATLANTIC REGION EARLY TODAY AS A COLD FRONT APPROACHES FROM THE WEST. THE COLD FRONT PASSES THROUGH TONIGHT...WITH HIGH PRESSURE RETURNING LATE THURSDAY AND INTO THE WEEKEND. ANOTHER COLD FRONT APPROACHES SUNDAY NIGHT INTO MONDAY. && .NEAR TERM /UNTIL 6 PM THIS EVENING/... WEAK STATIONARY FRONT OVER THE MID ATLANTIC IS EXPECTED TO SLOWLY NUDGE NORTH THIS MORNING...ALLOWING FOR SW WARM AND MOIST FLOW TO CONTINUE OVER THE LOCAL AREA. CYCLONIC FLOW ALOFT AND DECENT MID-LEVEL MOISTURE ADVECTION WILL LEAD TO MOSTLY CLOUDY SKIES...WITH SOME BREAKS POSSIBLE ESP TO THE S. PRECIP CURRENTLY OVER WESTERN VIRGINIA IS EXPECTED TO CLIP NORTHERN PORTIONS OF THE FA LATER THIS MORNING. LOWER CHANCES FOR RAIN FURTHER S WHERE THE BEST FORCING AND DEEP MOISTURE WILL HOLD OFF UNTIL LATER TODAY AND TONIGHT. A COLD FRONT APPROACHING FROM THE OHIO VALLEY AND A DEVELOPING SFC WAVE (IN RESPONSE TO A POTENT S/W OVER THE TN VALLEY EMBEDDED WITHIN THE SW UPPER FLOW) WILL ALSO INCREASE THE RAIN POTENTIAL STARTING LATE THIS AFTERNOON. CHANCE OF THUNDERSTORMS REMAINS IN THE FORECAST...W/ STRONG LOW-TOPPED CONVECTION (LOW CAPE AND HIGH SHEAR) POSSIBLE...ESP FOR NE NORTH CAROLINA AND EXTREME SE VIRGINIA (SPC HAS A SLIGHT RISK) WHERE INSTABILITY WILL BE GREATEST. MAIN THREAT WOULD BE DAMAGING WINDS (>40 KT OF 0-3 KM SHEAR AND DCAPE>1000 J/KG). ALSO...SOME STORMS MAY EXHIBIT ROTATION AS RUC AND NAM BOTH PROG 0-1 KM HELICITIES>300 M2/S2. MAIN LIMITING FACTOR MAY BE LACK OF INSTABILITY DUE TO MOSTLY CLOUDY SKIES. EXPECT ABOVE NORMAL HIGHS AGAIN TODAY SINCE COLD FROPA HOLDS OFF UNTIL EVENING...HIGHS IN THE L-M70S OVER THE NW AND M-U70S OVER THE SE. && .SHORT TERM /6 PM THIS EVENING THROUGH FRIDAY/... BEST PROBABILITY FOR RAIN (CATEGORICAL POPS) COMES TONIGHT DUE TO A COMBO OF ISENTROPIC LIFT AND STRONG LOW/MID LEVEL CONVERGENCE ASSOCIATED W/ COLD FRONT. RAIN WILL BE HEAVY AT TIMES AND SOME AREAS MAY RECEIVE OVER AN INCH TOTAL W/ THIS SYSTEM (ESP N PART OF FA). NO SIGNIFICANT FLOODING IS ANTICIPATED ATTM DUE TO FLASH FLOOD GUIDANCE BEING HIGH. THE RAIN TAPERS OFF FROM W TO E THUR MIDDAY/AFTERNOON. DECREASING CLOUDS FOR THE REST OF THE DAY AND NIGHT. COOL N FLOW AT THE SFC WILL ONLY YIELD HIGHS IN THE L-M50S THUR. STRONG HIGH PRESSURE BUILDS OVER THE MID ATLANTIC FRI LEADING TO DRY WX AND SUNNY SKIES. TEMPS WILL ONLY MAX OUT IN THE U40S-L50S AFTER A CHILLY START IN THE U20S-M30S. && .LONG TERM /FRIDAY NIGHT THROUGH TUESDAY/... LONG RANGE MODELS ARE IN GOOD AGREEMENT WITH SHOWING A SOUTHWEST UPPER LEVEL FLOW DEVELOPING SATURDAY AS HIGH PRESSURE BECOMES ANCHORED OVER THE MID ATLANTIC STATES THROUGH SUNDAY. SOME CLOUDINESS IS POSSIBLE IN NORTHEAST NC AND EXTREME SOUTHEAST VA ON SATURDAY AS TROPICAL MOISTURE ROTATES AROUND A MID-LEVEL HIGH OFF THE SOUTHEAST U.S. COAST AND MOVES NEAR THIS AREA. OTHERWISE...A DRYING AND WARMING TREND IS ANTICIPATED UNDER THIS FLOW REGIME...WITH HIGH TEMPS REBOUNDING BACK INTO THE 60S BY SUNDAY. LOWS SHOULD BE NEAR FREEZING SATURDAY MORNING DUE TO PRIME COOLING CONDITIONS UNDER MOSTLY CLEAR SKIES WITH VERY LIGHT WINDS...THEN REBOUND TOWARD THE LOW 50S BY EARLY NEXT WEEK AS CLOUDS INCREASE AHEAD OF THE NEXT WEATHER DISTURBANCE. BY LATE SUNDAY...A WEAK COLD FRONT IS EXPECTED TO SAG SOUTHWARD AND STALL OVER THE MID ATLANTIC REGION THROUGH TUESDAY. 12Z MODEL RUNS TODAY ARE HINTING AT SLOWING THE SOUTHERN MOVEMENT OF THIS BOUNDARY UNTIL LATE MONDAY...WHICH WOULD DELAY THE ONSET OF PRECIPITATION UNTIL THAT TIMEFRAME. HAVE TRENDED THE ONGOING FORECAST TOWARD SLOWING THE PASSAGE OF THE FRONT UNTIL LATE MONDAY...WITH PRECIPITATION BEING INTRODUCED LATE SUNDAY/EARLY MONDAY. && .AVIATION /12Z WEDNESDAY THROUGH SUNDAY/... COLD FRNT WILL APPROACH THE AREA THRU THIS MORNG...THEN DROP ACRS THE REGION THIS AFTN THRU TNGT. CIGS/VSBYS WILL QUICKLY LWR TO MVFR THEN IFR (LIFR?) DURING THIS MORNG WITH -DZ OR SCTD -SHRAS MOVNG INTO NRN AND WRN AREAS. CIGS/VSBYS WILL LIKELY LIFT TO MVFR AND VFR CONDITIONS LATER THIS MORNG AND AFTN...AS SW WNDS INCRS IN ADVANCE OF FRNT...WITH ISLTD TO SCTD SHRAS AHEAD OF AND ALNG THE FRNTL BNDRY INTO THIS EVENG. DURING THIS EVENG INTO THU MORNG...IFR (LIFR?) CONDITIONS WITH -RA EXPECTED BEHIND THE FRNT. VFR AND DRY CONDITIONS WILL RETURN THU AFTN THRU SUN. && .MARINE... HAVE EXTENDED THE SCA HEADLINE FOR ALL THE WTRS THRU LATE THU NGT...AS NNW WNDS (CAA) WILL CONTINUE AT 15 TO 25 KT AND WAVES/SEAS WILL STAY UP. SE OR S WNDS 10 KT OR LESS ERLY THIS MORNG...WILL BECOME SW AND INCRS TO 15 TO 20 KT THIS AFTN IN ADVANCE OF COLD FRNT. CUD BE GUSTS TO 25 KT. WNDS WILL SHIFT TO THE NW OR N THIS EVENG INTO ERLY THU MORNG BEHIND THE FRNT. THIS CAA SURGE WILL THEN CONTINUE FOR THE REMAINDER OF THU AND THU NGT. MORE BENIGN MARINE CONDITIONS THEN EXPECTED FRI INTO SUN...AS HI PRES BLDS OVR THE WTRS FM THE W. && .CLIMATE... RECORD HIGH TEMPS FOR NOV 16TH (WED): RIC...85 IN 1955 ORF...83 IN 1955 SBY...78 IN 1928 ECG...85 IN 1993 && .AKQ WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... MD...NONE. NC...NONE. VA...NONE. MARINE...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY FROM NOON TODAY TO 6 AM EST FRIDAY FOR ANZ630>634-650-652-654-656-658. && $$ SYNOPSIS...MAS NEAR TERM...MAS SHORT TERM...MAS LONG TERM...BMD AVIATION...TMG MARINE...TMG CLIMATE...
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS WAKEFIELD VA
632 AM EST WED NOV 16 2011 .SYNOPSIS... A WEAK STATIONARY FRONT WILL REMAIN OVER THE MID ATLANTIC REGION EARLY TODAY AS A COLD FRONT APPROACHES FROM THE WEST. THE COLD FRONT PASSES THROUGH TONIGHT...WITH HIGH PRESSURE RETURNING LATE THURSDAY AND INTO THE WEEKEND. ANOTHER COLD FRONT APPROACHES SUNDAY NIGHT INTO MONDAY. && .NEAR TERM /UNTIL 6 PM THIS EVENING/... WEAK STATIONARY FRONT OVER THE MID ATLANTIC IS EXPECTED TO SLOWLY NUDGE NORTH THIS MORNING...ALLOWING FOR SW WARM AND MOIST FLOW TO CONTINUE OVER THE LOCAL AREA. CYCLONIC FLOW ALOFT AND DECENT MID-LEVEL MOISTURE ADVECTION WILL LEAD TO MOSTLY CLOUDY SKIES...WITH SOME BREAKS POSSIBLE ESP TO THE S. PRECIP CURRENTLY OVER WESTERN VIRGINIA IS EXPECTED TO CLIP NORTHERN PORTIONS OF THE FA LATER THIS MORNING. LOWER CHANCES FOR RAIN FURTHER S WHERE THE BEST FORCING AND DEEP MOISTURE WILL HOLD OFF UNTIL LATER TODAY AND TONIGHT. A COLD FRONT APPROACHING FROM THE OHIO VALLEY AND A DEVELOPING SFC WAVE (IN RESPONSE TO A POTENT S/W OVER THE TN VALLEY EMBEDDED WITHIN THE SW UPPER FLOW) WILL ALSO INCREASE THE RAIN POTENTIAL STARTING LATE THIS AFTERNOON. CHANCE OF THUNDERSTORMS REMAINS IN THE FORECAST...W/ STRONG LOW-TOPPED CONVECTION (LOW CAPE AND HIGH SHEAR) POSSIBLE...ESP FOR NE NORTH CAROLINA AND EXTREME SE VIRGINIA (SPC HAS A SLIGHT RISK) WHERE INSTABILITY WILL BE GREATEST. MAIN THREAT WOULD BE DAMAGING WINDS (>40 KT OF 0-3 KM SHEAR AND DCAPE>1000 J/KG). ALSO...SOME STORMS MAY EXHIBIT ROTATION AS RUC AND NAM BOTH PROG 0-1 KM HELICITIES>300 M2/S2. EXPECT ABOVE NORMAL HIGHS AGAIN TODAY DUE TO THE COLD FROPA BEING DELAYED UNTIL TONIGHT...HIGHS IN THE L-M70S OVER THE NW AND M-U70S OVER THE SE. && .SHORT TERM /6 PM THIS EVENING THROUGH FRIDAY/... BEST PROBABILITY FOR RAIN (CATEGORICAL POPS) COMES TONIGHT DUE TO A COMBO OF ISENTROPIC LIFT AND STRONG LOW/MID LEVEL CONVERGENCE ASSOCIATED W/ COLD FRONT. RAIN WILL BE HEAVY AT TIMES AND SOME AREAS MAY RECEIVE OVER AN INCH TOTAL W/ THIS SYSTEM (ESP N PART OF FA). NO SIGNIFICANT FLOODING IS ANTICIPATED ATTM DUE TO FLASH FLOOD GUIDANCE BEING HIGH. THE RAIN TAPERS OFF FROM W TO E THUR MIDDAY/AFTERNOON. DECREASING CLOUDS FOR THE REST OF THE DAY AND NIGHT. COOL N FLOW AT THE SFC WILL ONLY YIELD HIGHS IN THE L-M50S THUR. STRONG HIGH PRESSURE BUILDS OVER THE MID ATLANTIC FRI LEADING TO DRY WX AND SUNNY SKIES. TEMPS WILL ONLY MAX OUT IN THE U40S-L50S AFTER A CHILLY START IN THE U20S-M30S. && .LONG TERM /FRIDAY NIGHT THROUGH TUESDAY/... LONG RANGE MODELS ARE IN GOOD AGREEMENT WITH SHOWING A SOUTHWEST UPPER LEVEL FLOW DEVELOPING SATURDAY AS HIGH PRESSURE BECOMES ANCHORED OVER THE MID ATLANTIC STATES THROUGH SUNDAY. SOME CLOUDINESS IS POSSIBLE IN NORTHEAST NC AND EXTREME SOUTHEAST VA ON SATURDAY AS TROPICAL MOISTURE ROTATES AROUND A MID-LEVEL HIGH OFF THE SOUTHEAST U.S. COAST AND MOVES NEAR THIS AREA. OTHERWISE...A DRYING AND WARMING TREND IS ANTICIPATED UNDER THIS FLOW REGIME...WITH HIGH TEMPS REBOUNDING BACK INTO THE 60S BY SUNDAY. LOWS SHOULD BE NEAR FREEZING SATURDAY MORNING DUE TO PRIME COOLING CONDITIONS UNDER MOSTLY CLEAR SKIES WITH VERY LIGHT WINDS...THEN REBOUND TOWARD THE LOW 50S BY EARLY NEXT WEEK AS CLOUDS INCREASE AHEAD OF THE NEXT WEATHER DISTURBANCE. BY LATE SUNDAY...A WEAK COLD FRONT IS EXPECTED TO SAG SOUTHWARD AND STALL OVER THE MID ATLANTIC REGION THROUGH TUESDAY. 12Z MODEL RUNS TODAY ARE HINTING AT SLOWING THE SOUTHERN MOVEMENT OF THIS BOUNDARY UNTIL LATE MONDAY...WHICH WOULD DELAY THE ONSET OF PRECIPITATION UNTIL THAT TIMEFRAME. HAVE TRENDED THE ONGOING FORECAST TOWARD SLOWING THE PASSAGE OF THE FRONT UNTIL LATE MONDAY...WITH PRECIPITATION BEING INTRODUCED LATE SUNDAY/EARLY MONDAY. && .AVIATION /12Z WEDNESDAY THROUGH SUNDAY/... COLD FRNT WILL APPROACH THE AREA THRU THIS MORNG...THEN DROP ACRS THE REGION THIS AFTN THRU TNGT. CIGS/VSBYS WILL QUICKLY LWR TO MVFR THEN IFR (LIFR?) DURING THIS MORNG WITH -DZ OR SCTD -SHRAS MOVNG INTO NRN AND WRN AREAS. CIGS/VSBYS WILL LIKELY LIFT TO MVFR AND VFR CONDITIONS LATER THIS MORNG AND AFTN...AS SW WNDS INCRS IN ADVANCE OF FRNT...WITH ISLTD TO SCTD SHRAS AHEAD OF AND ALNG THE FRNTL BNDRY INTO THIS EVENG. DURING THIS EVENG INTO THU MORNG...IFR (LIFR?) CONDITIONS WITH -RA EXPECTED BEHIND THE FRNT. VFR AND DRY CONDITIONS WILL RETURN THU AFTN THRU SUN. && .MARINE... HAVE EXTENDED THE SCA HEADLINE FOR ALL THE WTRS THRU LATE THU NGT...AS NNW WNDS (CAA) WILL CONTINUE AT 15 TO 25 KT AND WAVES/SEAS WILL STAY UP. SE OR S WNDS 10 KT OR LESS ERLY THIS MORNG...WILL BECOME SW AND INCRS TO 15 TO 20 KT THIS AFTN IN ADVANCE OF COLD FRNT. CUD BE GUSTS TO 25 KT. WNDS WILL SHIFT TO THE NW OR N THIS EVENG INTO ERLY THU MORNG BEHIND THE FRNT. THIS CAA SURGE WILL THEN CONTINUE FOR THE REMAINDER OF THU AND THU NGT. MORE BENIGN MARINE CONDITIONS THEN EXPECTED FRI INTO SUN...AS HI PRES BLDS OVR THE WTRS FM THE W. && .CLIMATE... RECORD HIGH TEMPS FOR NOV 16TH (WED): RIC...85 IN 1955 ORF...83 IN 1955 SBY...78 IN 1928 ECG...85 IN 1993 && .AKQ WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... MD...NONE. NC...NONE. VA...NONE. MARINE...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY FROM NOON TODAY TO 6 AM EST FRIDAY FOR ANZ630>634-650-652-654-656-658. && $$ SYNOPSIS...MAS NEAR TERM...MAS SHORT TERM...MAS LONG TERM...BMD AVIATION...TMG MARINE...TMG CLIMATE...
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS WAKEFIELD VA
427 AM EST WED NOV 16 2011 .SYNOPSIS... A WEAK STATIONARY FRONT WILL REMAIN OVER THE MID ATLANTIC REGION EARLY TODAY AS A COLD FRONT APPROACHES FROM THE WEST. THE COLD FRONT PASSES THROUGH TONIGHT...WITH HIGH PRESSURE RETURNING LATE THURSDAY AND INTO THE WEEKEND. ANOTHER COLD FRONT APPROACHES SUNDAY NIGHT INTO MONDAY. && .NEAR TERM /UNTIL 6 PM THIS EVENING/... WEAK STATIONARY FRONT OVER THE MID ATLANTIC IS EXPECTED TO SLOWLY NUDGE NORTH THIS MORNING...ALLOWING FOR SW WARM AND MOIST FLOW TO CONTINUE OVER THE LOCAL AREA. CYCLONIC FLOW ALOFT AND DECENT MID-LEVEL MOISTURE ADVECTION WILL LEAD TO MOSTLY CLOUDY SKIES...WITH SOME BREAKS POSSIBLE ESP TO THE S. PRECIP CURRENTLY OVER WESTERN VIRGINIA IS EXPECTED TO CLIP NORTHERN PORTIONS OF THE FA LATER THIS MORNING. LOWER CHANCES FOR RAIN FURTHER S WHERE THE BEST FORCING AND DEEP MOISTURE WILL HOLD OFF UNTIL LATER TODAY AND TONIGHT. A COLD FRONT APPROACHING FROM THE OHIO VALLEY AND A DEVELOPING SFC WAVE (IN RESPONSE TO A POTENT S/W OVER THE TN VALLEY EMBEDDED WITHIN THE SW UPPER FLOW) WILL ALSO INCREASE THE RAIN POTENTIAL STARTING LATE THIS AFTERNOON. CHANCE OF THUNDERSTORMS REMAINS IN THE FORECAST...W/ STRONG LOW-TOPPED CONVECTION (LOW CAPE AND HIGH SHEAR) POSSIBLE...ESP FOR NE NORTH CAROLINA AND EXTREME SE VIRGINIA (SPC HAS A SLIGHT RISK) WHERE INSTABILITY WILL BE GREATEST. MAIN THREAT WOULD BE DAMAGING WINDS (40 KT OF 0-3 KM SHEAR AND DCAPE>1000 J/KG). ALSO...SOME STORMS MAY EXHIBIT ROTATION AS RUC AND NAM BOTH PROGGING 0-1 KM HELICITIES GREATER THAN 200 M2/S2. EXPECTING ABOVE NORMAL HIGHS AGAIN TODAY DUE TO THE COLD FROPA BEING DELAYED UNTIL TONIGHT...HIGHS IN THE L-M70S OVER THE NW AND M-U70S OVER THE SE. && .SHORT TERM /6 PM THIS EVENING THROUGH FRIDAY/... BEST PROBABILITY FOR RAIN (CATEGORICAL POPS) COMES TONIGHT DUE TO A COMBO OF ISENTROPIC LIFT AND STRONG LOW/MID LEVEL CONVERGENCE ASSOCIATED W/ COLD FRONT. RAIN WILL BE HEAVY AT TIMES AND SOME AREAS MAY RECEIVE OVER AN INCH TOTAL W/ THIS SYSTEM (ESP NORTHERN AREAS). NO SIGNIFICANT FLOODING IS ANTICIPATED ATTM DUE TO FLASH FLOOD GUIDANCE BEING VERY HIGH. THE RAIN TAPERS OFF FROM W TO E THUR MIDDAY/AFTERNOON. DECREASING CLOUDS FOR THE REST OF THE DAY AND NIGHT. COOL N FLOW AT THE SFC WILL ONLY YIELD HIGHS IN THE L-M50S THUR. STRONG HIGH PRESSURE BUILDS OVER THE MID ATLANTIC FRI LEADING TO DRY WX AND SUNNY SKIES. TEMPS WILL ONLY MAX OUT IN THE U40S-L50S AFTER A CHILLY START IN THE U20S-M30S. && .LONG TERM /FRIDAY NIGHT THROUGH TUESDAY/... LONG RANGE MODELS ARE IN GOOD AGREEMENT WITH SHOWING A SOUTHWEST UPPER LEVEL FLOW DEVELOPING SATURDAY AS HIGH PRESSURE BECOMES ANCHORED OVER THE MID ATLANTIC STATES THROUGH SUNDAY. SOME CLOUDINESS IS POSSIBLE IN NORTHEAST NC AND EXTREME SOUTHEAST VA ON SATURDAY AS TROPICAL MOISTURE ROTATES AROUND A MID-LEVEL HIGH OFF THE SOUTHEAST U.S. COAST AND MOVES NEAR THIS AREA. OTHERWISE...A DRYING AND WARMING TREND IS ANTICIPATED UNDER THIS FLOW REGIME...WITH HIGH TEMPS REBOUNDING BACK INTO THE 60S BY SUNDAY. LOWS SHOULD BE NEAR FREEZING SATURDAY MORNING DUE TO PRIME COOLING CONDITIONS UNDER MOSTLY CLEAR SKIES WITH VERY LIGHT WINDS...THEN REBOUND TOWARD THE LOW 50S BY EARLY NEXT WEEK AS CLOUDS INCREASE AHEAD OF THE NEXT WEATHER DISTURBANCE. BY LATE SUNDAY...A WEAK COLD FRONT IS EXPECTED TO SAG SOUTHWARD AND STALL OVER THE MID ATLANTIC REGION THROUGH TUESDAY. 12Z MODEL RUNS TODAY ARE HINTING AT SLOWING THE SOUTHERN MOVEMENT OF THIS BOUNDARY UNTIL LATE MONDAY...WHICH WOULD DELAY THE ONSET OF PRECIPITATION UNTIL THAT TIMEFRAME. HAVE TRENDED THE ONGOING FORECAST TOWARD SLOWING THE PASSAGE OF THE FRONT UNTIL LATE MONDAY...WITH PRECIPITATION BEING INTRODUCED LATE SUNDAY/EARLY MONDAY. && .AVIATION /09Z WEDNESDAY THROUGH SUNDAY/... COLD FRNT WILL APPROACH THE AREA THRU THIS MORNG...THEN DROP ACRS THE REGION THIS AFTN THRU TNGT. CIGS/VSBYS WILL QUICKLY LWR TO MVFR THEN IFR (LIFR?) DURING THIS MORNG WITH -DZ OR SCTD -SHRAS MOVNG INTO NRN AND WRN AREAS. CIGS/VSBYS WILL LIKELY LIFT TO MVFR AND VFR CONDITIONS LATER THIS MORNG AND AFTN...AS SW WNDS INCRS IN ADVANCE OF FRNT...WITH ISLTD TO SCTD SHRAS AHEAD OF AND ALNG THE FRNTL BNDRY INTO THIS EVENG. DURING THIS EVENG INTO THU MORNG...IFR (LIFR?) CONDITIONS WITH -RA EXPECTED BEHIND THE FRNT. VFR AND DRY CONDITIONS WILL RETURN THU AFTN THRU SUN. && .MARINE... HAVE EXTENDED THE SCA HEADLINE FOR ALL THE WTRS THRU LATE THU NGT...AS NNW WNDS (CAA) WILL CONTINUE AT 15 TO 25 KT AND WAVES/SEAS WILL STAY UP. SE OR S WNDS 10 KT OR LESS ERLY THIS MORNG...WILL BECOME SW AND INCRS TO 15 TO 20 KT THIS AFTN IN ADVANCE OF COLD FRNT. CUD BE GUSTS TO 25 KT. WNDS WILL SHIFT TO THE NW OR N THIS EVENG INTO ERLY THU MORNG BEHIND THE FRNT. THIS CAA SURGE WILL THEN CONTINUE FOR THE REMAINDER OF THU AND THU NGT. MORE BENIGN MARINE CONDITIONS THEN EXPECTED FRI INTO SUN...AS HI PRES BLDS OVR THE WTRS FM THE W. && .CLIMATE... RECORD HIGH TEMPS FOR NOV 16TH (WED): RIC...85 IN 1955 ORF...83 IN 1955 SBY...78 IN 1928 ECG...85 IN 1993 && .AKQ WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... MD...NONE. NC...NONE. VA...NONE. MARINE...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY FROM NOON TODAY TO 6 AM EST FRIDAY FOR ANZ630>634-650-652-654-656-658. && $$ SYNOPSIS...MAS NEAR TERM...MAS SHORT TERM...MAS LONG TERM...BMD AVIATION...TMG MARINE...TMG CLIMATE...AKQ
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS WAKEFIELD VA
400 AM EST WED NOV 16 2011 .SYNOPSIS... A WEAK STATIONARY FRONT WILL REMAIN OVER THE MID ATLANTIC REGION EARLY TODAY AS A COLD FRONT APPROACHES FROM THE WEST. THE COLD FRONT PASSES THROUGH TONIGHT...WITH HIGH PRESSURE RETURNING LATE THURSDAY AND INTO THE WEEKEND. ANOTHER COLD FRONT APPROACHES SUNDAY NIGHT INTO MONDAY. && .NEAR TERM /THROUGH TODAY/... WEAK STATIONARY FRONT OVER THE MID ATLANTIC IS EXPECTED TO SLOWLY NUDGE NORTH THIS MORNING...ALLOWING FOR SW WARM AND MOIST FLOW TO CONTINUE OVER THE LOCAL AREA. CYCLONIC FLOW ALOFT AND DECENT MID-LEVEL MOISTURE ADVECTION WILL LEAD TO MOSTLY CLOUDY SKIES...WITH SOME BREAKS POSSIBLE ESP TO THE S. PRECIP CURRENTLY OVER WESTERN VIRGINIA IS EXPECTED TO CLIP NORTHERN PORTIONS OF THE FA LATER THIS MORNING. LOWER CHANCES FOR RAIN FURTHER S WHERE THE BEST FORCING AND DEEP MOISTURE WILL HOLD OFF UNTIL LATER TODAY AND TONIGHT. A COLD FRONT APPROACHING FROM THE OHIO VALLEY AND A DEVELOPING SFC WAVE (IN RESPONSE TO A POTENT S/W OVER THE TN VALLEY EMBEDDED WITHIN THE SW UPPER FLOW) WILL ALSO INCREASE THE RAIN POTENTIAL STARTING LATE THIS AFTERNOON. CHANCE OF THUNDERSTORMS REMAINS IN THE FORECAST...W/ STRONG LOW-TOPPED CONVECTION (LOW CAPE AND HIGH SHEAR) POSSIBLE...ESP FOR NE NORTH CAROLINA AND EXTREME SE VIRGINIA (SPC HAS A SLIGHT RISK) WHERE INSTABILITY WILL BE GREATEST. MAIN THREAT WOULD BE DAMAGING WINDS (40 KT OF 0-3 KM SHEAR AND DCAPE>1000 J/KG). ALSO...SOME STORMS MAY EXHIBIT ROTATION AS RUC AND NAM BOTH PROGGING 0-1 KM HELICITIES GREATER THAN 200 M2/S2. EXPECTING ABOVE NORMAL HIGHS AGAIN TODAY DUE TO THE COLD FROPA BEING DELAYED UNTIL TONIGHT...HIGHS IN THE L-M70S OVER THE NW AND M-U70S OVER THE SE. && .SHORT TERM /TONIGHT THROUGH FRIDAY/... BEST PROBABILITY FOR RAIN (CATEGORICAL POPS) COMES TONIGHT DUE TO A COMBO OF ISENTROPIC LIFT AND STRONG LOW/MID LEVEL CONVERGENCE ASSOCIATED W/ COLD FRONT. RAIN WILL BE HEAVY AT TIMES AND SOME AREAS MAY RECEIVE OVER AN INCH TOTAL W/ THIS SYSTEM (ESP NORTHERN AREAS). NO SIGNIFICANT FLOODING IS ANTICIPATED ATTM DUE TO FLASH FLOOD GUIDANCE BEING VERY HIGH. THE RAIN TAPERS OFF FROM W TO E THUR MIDDAY/AFTERNOON. DECREASING CLOUDS FOR THE REST OF THE DAY AND NIGHT. COOL N FLOW AT THE SFC WILL ONLY YIELD HIGHS IN THE L-M50S THUR. STRONG HIGH PRESSURE BUILDS OVER THE MID ATLANTIC FRI LEADING TO DRY WX AND SUNNY SKIES. TEMPS WILL ONLY MAX OUT IN THE U40S-L50S AFTER A CHILLY START IN THE U20S-M30S. && .LONG TERM /FRIDAY NIGHT THROUGH TUESDAY/... LONG RANGE MODELS ARE IN GOOD AGREEMENT WITH SHOWING A SOUTHWEST UPPER LEVEL FLOW DEVELOPING SATURDAY AS HIGH PRESSURE BECOMES ANCHORED OVER THE MID ATLANTIC STATES THROUGH SUNDAY. SOME CLOUDINESS IS POSSIBLE IN NORTHEAST NC AND EXTREME SOUTHEAST VA ON SATURDAY AS TROPICAL MOISTURE ROTATES AROUND A MID-LEVEL HIGH OFF THE SOUTHEAST U.S. COAST AND MOVES NEAR THIS AREA. OTHERWISE...A DRYING AND WARMING TREND IS ANTICIPATED UNDER THIS FLOW REGIME...WITH HIGH TEMPS REBOUNDING BACK INTO THE 60S BY SUNDAY. LOWS SHOULD BE NEAR FREEZING SATURDAY MORNING DUE TO PRIME COOLING CONDITIONS UNDER MOSTLY CLEAR SKIES WITH VERY LIGHT WINDS...THEN REBOUND TOWARD THE LOW 50S BY EARLY NEXT WEEK AS CLOUDS INCREASE AHEAD OF THE NEXT WEATHER DISTURBANCE. BY LATE SUNDAY...A WEAK COLD FRONT IS EXPECTED TO SAG SOUTHWARD AND STALL OVER THE MID ATLANTIC REGION THROUGH TUESDAY. 12Z MODEL RUNS TODAY ARE HINTING AT SLOWING THE SOUTHERN MOVEMENT OF THIS BOUNDARY UNTIL LATE MONDAY...WHICH WOULD DELAY THE ONSET OF PRECIPITATION UNTIL THAT TIMEFRAME. HAVE TRENDED THE ONGOING FORECAST TOWARD SLOWING THE PASSAGE OF THE FRONT UNTIL LATE MONDAY...WITH PRECIPITATION BEING INTRODUCED LATE SUNDAY/EARLY MONDAY. && .AVIATION /08Z WEDNESDAY THROUGH SUNDAY/... COLD FRNT WILL APPROACH THE AREA THRU THIS MORNG...THEN DROP ACRS THE REGION THIS AFTN THRU TNGT. CIGS/VSBYS WILL QUICKLY LWR TO MVFR THEN IFR (LIFR?) DURING THIS MORNG WITH -DZ OR SCTD -SHRAS MOVNG INTO NRN AND WRN AREAS. CIGS/VSBYS WILL LIKELY LIFT TO MVFR AND VFR CONDITIONS LATER THIS MORNG AND AFTN...AS SW WNDS INCRS IN ADVANCE OF FRNT...WITH ISLTD TO SCTD SHRAS AHEAD OF AND ALNG THE FRNTL BNDRY INTO THIS EVENG. DURING THIS EVENG INTO THU MORNG...IFR (LIFR?) CONDITIONS WITH -RA EXPECTED BEHIND THE FRNT. VFR AND DRY CONDITIONS WILL RETURN THU AFTN THRU SUN. && .MARINE... LATEST OBS REFLECTING TIGHTENING PRESSURE GRADIENT BETWEEN HIGH PRESSURE CENTERED OFF THE SE COAST AND THE COLD FRONT SLOWLY PUSHING SE FROM THE OHIO VALLEY INTO THE MID-ATLANTIC. THIS TIGHTENING GRADIENT HAS RESULTED IN SW WINDS 10-15 KT OVER BAY AND ~15-20KT OVER ATLANTIC COASTAL WATERS. WINDS SHOULD REMAIN SUB- SCA THIS EVENING AND OVERNIGHT INTO EARLY WED WITH THE BUILDING SOUTH FLOW FROM SW TO NE WED MORN AHEAD OF APPROACHING COLD FRONT FROM THE NW...WHICH DROPS ACROSS THE REGION WED EVENING. SCA FLAGS HAVE BEEN HOISTED FOR ENTIRE MARINE AREA W/PRE-FRONTAL SW FLOW WED AFTN...CONTINUING WITH THE POST-FRONTAL CAA SURGE THU MORNING INTO THU AFTN. MORE BENIGN MARINE CONDITIONS EXPECTED BY LATE IN THE WEEK INTO THE WEEKEND AS HIGH PRESSURE BUILDS OVER THE WATERS FROM THE WEST. HOWEVER...SCA`S FOR HAZARDOUS SEAS MAY BE NEEDED INTO THE WEEKEND OVER THE COASTAL WATERS WITH GUIDANCE INDICATING POTENTIAL FOR SEAS TO LINGER IN THE 5-6 FOOT RANGE COURTESY OF ONSHORE FLOW/LINGERING E-SE SWELL. && .CLIMATE... RECORD HIGH TEMPS FOR NOV 16TH (WED): RIC...85 IN 1955 ORF...83 IN 1955 SBY...78 IN 1928 ECG...85 IN 1993 && .AKQ WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... MD...NONE. NC...NONE. VA...NONE. MARINE...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY FROM NOON TODAY TO 6 PM EST THURSDAY FOR ANZ630>634-650-652-654-656-658. && $$ SYNOPSIS...MAS NEAR TERM...MAS SHORT TERM...MAS LONG TERM...BMD AVIATION...TMG MARINE...TMG CLIMATE...
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS GRAND RAPIDS MI
619 PM EST THU NOV 17 2011 LATEST UPDATE...AVIATION... .SYNOPSIS...(315 PM EST THU NOV 17 2011) THE LAKE EFFECT SNOW SHOWERS WILL GRADUALLY DIMINISH THIS EVENING. HIGH PRESSURE OVER THE MIDDLE MISSISSIPPI VALLEY WILL STRENGTHEN AS IT BUILDS EAST INTO THE CENTRAL APPALACHIANS ON FRIDAY. A GUSTY SOUTHWESTERLY FLOW WILL SETUP HERE IN LOWER MICHIGAN DURING THE DAY AND PERSIST INTO SATURDAY. A COLD FRONT WILL SLIP SOUTHEASTWARD THROUGH THE REGION SATURDAY NIGHT PRODUCING SOME RAIN SHOWERS. COOLER AIR WILL THEN FILTER IN FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE WEEKEND. && .SHORT TERM...(315 PM EST THU NOV 17 2011) (TONIGHT THROUGH SATURDAY NIGHT)... THE MAIN CHALLENGE IN THE SHORT TERM DEALS WITH THE WIND GUSTS ON FRIDAY. BUFKIT OVERVIEWS SHOW MIXING HEIGHTS TAPPING INTO THE 40 KNOT WIND RANGE ALONG THE LAKESHORE DURING THE DAY ON FRIDAY. ALSO FSL RUC DATA SUGGESTS WINDS OVER 40 KNOTS MOVING INLAND DURING THE DAY. PROFILER DATA FROM THE LOWER PLAINS SHOWS THE LOW LEVEL JET FORMING AND IT IS ALREADY ABOUT 10 KNOTS STRONGER THAN FORECASTED. WILL ISSUE A WIND ADVISORY FOR FRIDAY FROM 12Z TO 00Z. MIXING HEIGHTS LOWER DURING THE EVENING AND THAT SHOULD ALLOW FOR THE WIND TO DECREASE. THE TIMING OF THE SHOWERS LATER SATURDAY INTO SATURDAY LOOKS GOOD. I DID DELAY THE SHOWERS SLIGHTLY GIVEN THE SOMEWHAT SLOWER TREND OF THE FRONTAL PASSAGE. AS A RESULT I TOOK OUT THE MENTION OF SHOWERS PRIOR TO 18Z SAT. A DECENT WARMUP IS IN STORE FOR THE REGION ON SATURDAY. LOW LEVEL THERMAL PROFILES SUPPORT HIGHS TOPPING 50 DEGREES. && .LONG TERM...(315 PM EST THU NOV 17 2011) (SUNDAY THROUGH THANKSGIVING DAY) THE LONG TERM PORTION OF THE FCST LOOKS RATHER TRANQUIL...ESPECIALLY BY MID-LATE NOVEMBER STANDARDS FOR MICHIGAN. WE WILL HAVE TO WATCH A POSSIBLE SYSTEM THAT COULD STILL IMPACT AT LEAST A PORTION OF THE AREA TUE INTO TUE NIGHT. FRONTAL SYSTEM MOVING THROUGH SAT/SAT NIGHT STILL APPEARS TO JUST CLEAR THE CWFA BY 12Z SUN. DRY NE FLOW AROUND THE INCOMING SFC RIDGE AND NOT SO COLD TEMPS /H850 TEMPS 0 TO -2C/ WILL BRING QUIET AND SEASONABLE TEMPS TO THE AREA. WE ARE EXPECTING THIS HIGH TO RULE ACROSS THE AREA AT LEAST THROUGH MON. FOR NOW...WE ARE DISCOUNTING THE 12Z GFS BRINGING LIGHT PCPN TO THE AREA. IT SEEMS TO BE TRYING TO PHASE SRN STREAM MOISTURE WITH A WEAK NRN STREAM TROUGH. THE SETUP LOOKS OVERDONE WITH MOISTURE THIS FAR NORTH AND NOT FAVORABLE FOR PCPN ON MON FOR NOW. THE TRENDS IN THE MODELS ARE TO HAVE THE SYSTEM FOR TUE/WED A LITTLE FURTHER NORTH THAN WAS EXPECTED 24 HOURS AGO. WE CAN NOT DISCOUNT THIS IDEA EXPECTING IT MAY BE A LITTLE STRONGER THAN WHAT IS BEING SAMPLED NOW. HOWEVER UNLESS THERE IS GOOD PHASING BETWEEN THE TWO STREAMS...IT SHOULD CONTINUE TO MAINLY MISS THE AREA. THE 00Z EURO WAS QUITE THE OUTLIER WITH A CLOSED NRN STREAM LOW PHASING WITH THE SRN STREAM...AND BRINGING A LOT OF PCPN TO THE AREA TUE/WED. THE NEW EURO HAS BACKED AWAY FROM THAT THINKING...AND IS CLOSER TO THE ENSEMBLES. IN COORDINATION WITH SURROUNDING OFFICES...WE HAVE ADDED A SMALL CHC OF PCPN TUE AND TUE NIGHT DOWN SOUTH FOR NOW...AND WILL CONTINUE TO MONITOR THE TRENDS. ALL OF THE MODELS HAVE A FAIRLY GOOD RIDGE THEN BUILDING OVER THE AREA FOR WED AND THANKSGIVING DAY AS ANOTHER STRONG TROUGH TAKES SHAPE ALONG THE WEST COAST. THIS SHOULD ALLOW FOR MORE SEASONABLE TO SLIGHTLY ABOVE AVERAGE TEMPS FOR NOVEMBER ALONG WITH DRY CONDITIONS FOR THE FIRST PART OF THE HOLIDAY TRAVEL PERIOD FOR MICHIGAN. && .AVIATION...(619 PM EST THU NOV 17 2011) VFR CONDITIONS THROUGH FRIDAY AFTERNOON...BUT BECOMING WINDY. LAKE EFFECT SNOW SHOWERS WILL END EARLY THIS EVENING AND CLOUDS WILL BEGIN TO BREAK UP BY 06Z. WINDS WILL GO SOUTHWEST THEN SOUTH ON FRIDAY MORNING AND INCREASE TO NEAR 20 KNOTS WITH GUSTS OVER 30 KNOTS BY 18Z FRIDAY. THESE STRONG WINDS WILL CONTINUE INTO FRIDAY EVENING. && .MARINE...(315 PM EST THU NOV 17 2011) THE ARRIVAL OF A LOW LEVEL JET COUPLED WITH INCREASED MIXING ON FRIDAY SUPPORTS KEEPING THE GALE WARNING FOR FRIDAY. MIXING HEIGHTS SUGGEST THE NEARSHORE ZONES WILL REACH INTO THE 40 KNOT RANGE OF WINDS FRIDAY. THE LOW LEVEL JET AND INCREASED MIXING PERSISTS THROUGH 00Z SAT...THUS I WILL KEEP THE WARNING GOING THROUGH MUCH OF THE NIGHT. && .HYDROLOGY...(315 PM EST WED NOV 16 2011) ANY QPF THROUGH THE PERIOD IS FORECASTED TO BE RELATIVELY LIGHT. AS A RESULT... NO HYDRO ISSUES ANTICIPATED. && .GRR WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... MI...WIND ADVISORY FOR THE LAKESHORE COUNTIES FRIDAY. LM...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY ALL NEARSHORE ZONES THROUGH TONIGHT. GALE WARNING FRIDAY INTO FRIDAY NIGHT ALL NEARSHORE ZONES. && $$ SYNOPSIS: MJS SHORT TERM: MJS LONG TERM: NJJ AVIATION: OSTUNO MARINE: MJS HYDROLOGY: MJS
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS MARQUETTE MI
422 PM EST WED NOV 16 2011 .SHORT TERM /TONIGHT AND THURSDAY/... POTENT SHORTWAVE THAT MOVED THROUGH THE CWA LAST NIGHT WILL CONTINUE NE THROUGH QUEBEC TONIGHT...LEAVING THE AREA UNDER AN UPPER TROUGH FOR MUCH OF THE SHORT TERM PERIOD. LOW/MID LVL MOISTURE BEHIND THE WAVE HAS SETTLED OVER THE NE HALF OF THE CWA TODAY AND IS EXPECTED TO REMAIN THROUGH THE FIRST HALF OF THURS. THIS HAS AIDED SOME SHOWER DEVELOPMENT OVER THE ERN LK THROUGH THE DAY. THESE BANDS HAVE A NW TO SE APPEARANCE DUE TO THE NW WINDS ALOFT...BUT THE LLVL WINDS W TO WNW WINDS HAVE BEEN GRADUALLY PUSHING THEM E. DRIER LLVL AIR OVER WRN LK SUPERIOR HAS TRIED TO LIMIT LES EXTENT OVER THE WRN U.P...BUT AN ADDITIONAL AREA OF LOW/MID LVL MOISTURE OVER NRN MN /PRODUCING SCATTERED SHSN/ SHOULD BEGIN TO MOVE INTO THE AREA THIS EVENING. WITH THE AREA BETWEEN THE HIGH TO THE SW AND THE EXITING LOW IN QUEBEC...EXPECT WNW FLOW TO CONTINUE THROUGH THURS. A LINGERING TROUGH FROM THE EXITING LOW OVER ERN LK SUPERIOR FOR TONIGHT INTO THURSDAY WILL HELP TO FOCUS WINDS A LITTLE MORE OUT OF THE NW OVER NRN LUCE AND FAR ERN ALGER COUNTY AND INCREASE THE LLVL CONVERGENCE IN THAT AREA. RUC ANALYSIS OF H850 TEMPS SHOWS VALUES RANGING FROM -11C OVER WRN LK SUPERIOR TO -8C OVER ERN LK SUPERIOR. THESE TEMPS SHOULD FALL A COUPLE DEGREES BY 12Z THURS WITH THE SECONDARY SURGE OF COLD AIR BEHIND A WEAK H850 TROUGH AND REMAIN THROUGH THE DAY THURS. THIS CREATES DELTA-T VALUES IN THE UPPER TEENS ACROSS THE LK THROUGH THE PERIOD. OVER THE W...PARAMETERS HAVE REALLY COME TOGETHER FOR MODERATE TO POTENTIALLY HEAVY LES TONIGHT INTO TOMORROW MORNING. WITH THE SLIGHTLY COLDER H850 TEMPS THERE...EXPECT MUCH OF THE LK INDUCED FORCING TO BE RIGHT IN THE DGZ. MODELS STILL HINTING AT LLVL DRY AIR OVER THE WRN CWA KEEPING CLOUD BASES NEAR 3KFT THROUGH THIS EVENING...WHICH WILL LIMIT THE DEPTH OF THE CLOUD WITH EQL VALUES FROM 7-10KFT. BUT H925-850 MOISTURE CURRENTLY LOCATED OVER NRN MN SHOULD PUSH OVER WRN LK SUPERIOR AND THE WRN CWA OVERNIGHT TONIGHT AND INTO TOMORROW MORNING. THIS SHOULD PROVIDED ADDITIONAL LLVL MOISTURE TO REALLY ENHANCE THE LES IN THE WNW FAVORED LOCATIONS. LES PARAMETER IS SHOWING THIS WELL...WITH A DIMINISHING TREND LATE THIS AFTN AND INTO THE EVENING...BEFORE GREATLY INCREASING OVERNIGHT AND INTO THURS MORNING. BIGGEST CONCERN IS THE WHAT THE EQL WILL BE. BUFKIT SOUNDINGS DO HAVE SOME VARIABILITY ON IF THE EQL/S WILL RISE TOWARDS 12-15KFT OVERNIGHT INTO THURS MORNING...WHICH DEPENDS ON A DEGREE F OR TWO DIFFERENCE IN THE LK TEMPS. IF THAT OCCURS...COULD SEE SNOW AMOUNTS BEING HIGHER THAN EXPECTED. FELT THE CURRENT FORECAST WAS ON TRACK WITH HIGH END ADVISORY AMOUNTS WHERE THERE WILL LIKELY BE ENHANCED CONVERGENCE OVER NRN ONTONAGON AND CENTRAL HOUGHTON COUNTIES. THE EVENING SHIFT WILL NEED TO MONITOR TRENDS AND IF THE SNOW BECOMES HEAVY EARLIER THAN EXPECTED...MAY NEED TO BUMP UP THE ADVY TO A WARNING. OVER THE E...WITH THE DEEPER MOISTURE AND EQL NEAR 15KFT FROM THE EXITING WAVE...LES PARAMETERS ARE MUCH BETTER IN THIS AREA AND SHOWING POTENTIAL FOR MODERATE TO HEAVY SNOW. THERE POTENTIALLY TWO LIMITING FACTORS ON SNOW AMOUNTS REACHING WARNING CRITERIA. FIRST...PREVIOUS SHIFT MENTIONED THE POTENTIAL FOR SNOW PELLETS OR GRAUPEL AT TIMES TONIGHT...WHICH SEEMS REASONABLE THIS EVENING WITH THE SLIGHTLY WARMER H850 TEMPS KEEPING THE BEST OMEGA BELOW THE DGZ. BUT...AS TEMPS COOL OVERNIGHT BEHIND THE H850 TROUGH...EXPECT A TRANSITION TO MAINLY SNOW. SECOND...THE WIND DIRECTION REMAINS A CONCERN FOR TONIGHT. WITH NW WINDS SHIFTING MORE WRLY THROUGH THE DAY TODAY...THE MAIN PCPN HAS BEEN RUNNING NEARLY PARALLEL TO SHORE THIS AFTN. MODELS SHOW A SLIGHT WNW SHIFT TO THE H925 WINDS THIS EVENING...BUT NOT SURE IF THIS WILL BE ENOUGH TO SLIDE THE DOMINATE BAND ONSHORE FROM GRAND MARAIS EAST ALONG THE LUCE COUNTY SHORELINE. WITH THE GEM/ECMWF/GFS AND LOCAL WRF SHOWING THE LINGERING SFC TROUGH TIGHTENING UP OVER THE FAR ERN LK OVERNIGHT TONIGHT AND DROPPING SE THURS MORNING...EXPECT THIS TO SHIFT THE WINDS NW ENOUGH TO PUSH THE DOMINATE BAND INTO LUCE COUNTY. THUS...WITH MODERATE/HEAVY SNOW...ALONG WITH GUSTY WINDS UP TO 30MPH...HAVE SWITCHED THE LES WATCH OVER TO A WARNING FOR LUCE. WITH THE UNCERTAINTY ON THE EXACT LOCATION OF THE BAND FOR THE GRAND MARAIS AREA OF ALGER...HAVE SWITCHED THAT WATCH OVER TO AN LES ADVY...BUT THERE REMAINS SOME BUST POTENTIAL BOTH WAYS. EXPECT THIS PERIOD OF HEAVY SNOW TO CONTINUE THROUGH THURS MORNING UNDER THE NW WINDS. CURRENT FORECAST HAS SNOWFALL AMOUNTS EXCEEDING A FOOT FOR PORTIONS OF NRN LUCE COUNTY BY 00Z FRI. DRIER MID LVL AIR BEGINS TO MOVE OVER THE SW HALF OF THE CWA THURS AFTN...LOWERING THE EQL/S TOWARDS 5-6KFT BY 00Z FRI. THIS WILL DIMINISH THE INTENSITY OF THE SHOWERS OVER THE W. OVER THE E...THESE LESS FAVORABLE LES CONDITIONS DON/T ARRIVE UNTIL LATE THURS AFTN AND INTO THURS EVENING AND HAVE ENDED THE WARNING AT 00Z. .LONG TERM /THURSDAY NIGHT THROUGH WEDNESDAY/... THE SFC MAP AT 00Z STRONG HIGH PRESSURE ACROSS THE TN VALLEY WILL EXTEND A RIDGE ACROSS WI AND WESTERN LAKE SUPERIOR...WITH A WEAK SFC TROUGH EXTENDING FROM THE MAIN LOW OVER FAR EASTERN CANADA TO JUST EAST OF LAKE SUPERIOR. THIS WILL ALLOW THE FOCUS FOR HEAVIER SNOW TO DIMINISH ACROSS LAKE SUPERIOR...WITH NW WINDS BECOMING MORE AND MORE WESTERLY AS THE EVENING PROGRESSES. THE HIGH AMPLITUDE 500MB RIDGE OVER THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST AND WESTERN CANADA WILL FLATTEN AS IT SLIDES ACROSS THE NORTHERN PLAINS AND SOUTHERN MANITOBA BY 00Z FRIDAY. IT WILL STILL BE ENOUGH TO AT LEAST TEMPORARILY SWEEP THE TROUGHS EAST OF THE AREA THURSDAY NIGHT THROUGH THE START OF THE WEEKEND. HOWEVER...THE MAIN CULPRIT WILL BUDGE LITTLE OVER THE SECOND HALF OF THE WORK WEEK...THAT BEING THE 500MB LOW SPINNING NEAR HUDSON BAY. THE FAST SOUTHWESTERLY FLOW WILL RETURN...WITH THE APEX OF THE RIDGE EXITING THE UPPER GREAT LAKES FRIDAY AFTERNOON/EVENING. ONE TROUGH OVER NORTHERN MANITOBA AT 00Z SATURDAY SHOULD CROSS ONTARIO SATURDAY AFTERNOON/EVENING. BEHIND THIS FEATURE A MORE DISTINCT TROUGH WILL WASH OUT ALONG THE CANADIAN/U.S. BORDER...WITH A BROAD TROUGH EXPECTED ACROSS LAKE SUPERIOR AND UPPER MI SATURDAY EVENING THROUGH NEXT TUESDAY NIGHT. THE RESULT AT THE SFC WILL BE THE WEAKENING OF THE 995MB SFC LOW CENTERED ACROSS SOUTHERN SASKATCHEWAN AT 00Z FRIDAY...TO 1003MB BY 00Z SATURDAY JUST NW OF LAKE SUPERIOR. EVEN WITH THE WEAKENING OF THIS SYSTEM THE TIGHTENING PRESSURE GRADIENT WILL RESULT IN STRONGER SW WINDS AT THE SFC FRIDAY INTO EARLY FRIDAY EVENING...MAINLY ACROSS THE EASTERN HALF OF THE CWA. THE RESULT WILL BE A TROUGH OF LOW PRESSURE AT THE SFC EXTENDING BETWEEN 2 STRONGER LOW OVER HUDSON BAY AND KANSAS AT 12Z SATURDAY OVER THE EAST HALF. LOOK FOR A LOW TO PUSH NORTHEASTWARD ALONG THIS TROUGH FROM THE CENTRAL TO SOUTHERN PLAINS. MODELS CONTINUE TO PLAY THE LOW TRACKING NEAR THE STRAITS AROUND 06Z SUNDAY...WITH THE NAM FARTHEST NORTH...AND THE ECMWF ON THE SOUTHERN END OF THE FORECAST ENVELOP. THE CANADIAN LOOKS TO BE ABOUT 6 HOURS SLOW. MODERATE TO HEAVY SNOW ACCUMULATIONS REMAIN POSSIBLE OVER THE WESTERN HALF OF UPPER MI UNTIL HIGH PRESSURE BUILDS IN FROM THE WEST SUNDAY AFTERNOON. LOOKING A BIT FARTHER OUT...THERE ARE A COUPLE OF 500MB WAVES WITHIN THE BROAD TROUGH /WESTERLY FLOW/ THAT ARE DIFFICULT TO FORECAST. THE FIRST WAVE FOR MONDAY IS MORE DISTINCT OFF THE 16/12Z RUN OF THE GFS...BUT IS SIMILAR TIMING WISE...BUT IS MUCH WEAKER THAN WHAT IS SHOWN OFF THE 16/00Z ECMWF. THE CANADIAN IS OUT OF PHASE WITH THE GFS AND ECMWF STARTING AROUND 12Z MONDAY...OR ABOUT 6 HOURS SLOWER. A SIMILAR TREND WAS NOTED WITH THE TUESDAY AFTERNOON/EVENING WEAK TROUGH...WHERE THE GFS TIGHTENED UP THE TROUGH A BIT MORE THAN THE ECMWF. FORECAST MODELS ARE ABOVE NORMAL CONSISTENCY WISE FOR NEXT WEDNESDAY...WITH A LARGE 500MB RIDGE BUILDING IN FROM THE PLAINS STATES. && .AVIATION /FOR THE 18Z TAF ISSUANCE/... COLD AIR MOVING ACROSS LAKE SUPERIOR WILL PRODUCE CLOUDS AND LAKE EFFECT SNOW FOR THE WEST TO NORTHWEST WIND SNOW BELTS FOR THE TAF PERIOD. THIS WILL LARGELY AFFECT KCMX WITH PERIODS OF MVFR CIGS AND IFR VSBYS. WITH KIWD NOT BEING UNDER FAVORABLE FLOW FOR SNOW...HAVE LEFT OUT MENTION...BUT DID KEEP MVFR CIGS FOR THE OVERNIGHT PERIOD FROM MOISTURE CURRENTLY IN NRN MN. KSAW WILL MAINLY SEE VFR CONDITIONS...BUT COULD SEE SOME BRIEF MVFR CIGS LATE TONIGHT INTO TOMORROW MORNING FROM STRONGER LAKE EFFECT SNOW BANDS OVER NORTHERN ONTONAGON COUNTY. && .MARINE /FOR THE 4 PM LAKE SUPERIOR FORECAST ISSUANCE/... LOW PRESSURE ACROSS CENTRAL ONTARIO WILL KEEP A WEAK TROUGH ACROSS EASTERN LS OVERNIGHT...WHICH WILL ASSIST IN FOCUSING THE STRONGER GALE FORCE WINDS OF 35KTS OVER THE EASTERN HALF OF LS THROUGH THIS EVENING. LOOK FOR A RIDGE OF HIGH PRESSURE TO BUILD IN THURSDAY INTO THURSDAY NIGHT...WITH GUSTS CONTINUING 20 TO 30KTS. LOW PRESSURE ACROSS SOUTHERN SASKATCHEWAN THURSDAY NIGHT WILL FILL SLIGHTLY JUST NORTH OF LS FRIDAY NIGHT. AHEAD OF THIS FEATURE...STRONG SW WINDS FRIDAY INTO FRIDAY NIGHT MAY RESULT IN A FEW GALE FORCE GUSTS ACROSS EASTERN LS. EXPECT A NEARLY STATIONARY TROUGH OVER EASTERN LS ON SATURDAY. LOW PRESSURE OVER THE CENTRAL PLAINS SATURDAY WILL MOVE ALONG THE TROUGH...FILLING SLIGHTLY ACROSS NORTHERN LOWER MICHIGAN BY SATURDAY NIGHT...WITH A BRIEF PERIOD OF NE GALES TO 35KT SATURDAY AFTERNOON THAT MAY TRANSITION ACROSS THE ENTIRE LAKE AS WINDS TURN MORE NORTHWESTERLY AS THE LOW EXITS NE. HIGH PRESSURE SHOULD SLIDE IN FROM THE WEST SUNDAY...BEFORE SLOWLY DIPPING TO THE LOWER GREAT LAKES ON MONDAY. && .MQT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... UPPER MICHIGAN... LAKE EFFECT SNOW ADVISORY UNTIL 5 PM EST THURSDAY FOR MIZ001>003- 084. LAKE EFFECT SNOW WARNING FROM 10 PM THIS EVENING TO 7 PM EST THURSDAY FOR MIZ007. LAKE EFFECT SNOW ADVISORY FROM 10 PM THIS EVENING TO 5 PM EST THURSDAY FOR MIZ006. LAKE SUPERIOR... GALE WARNING UNTIL 10 PM EST THIS EVENING FOR LSZ248>251-265>267. LAKE MICHIGAN... NONE. && $$ SHORT TERM...SRF LONG TERM...KF AVIATION...SRF MARINE...SRF/SF
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS MARQUETTE MI
1233 PM EST WED NOV 16 2011 UPDATED AVIATION DISCUSSION FOR 18Z TAFS .SYNOPSIS... WATER VAPOR IMAGERY AND RUC ANALYSIS SHOW BROAD CYCLONIC FLOW ACROSS MOST OF THE CONUS WITH AXIS ROUGHLY OVER THE WRN PLAINS. A VIGOROUS LOOKING SHORTWAVE IS TRACKING THRU THE UPPER GREAT LAKES ATTM. LIKE ITS PREDECESSOR 24-30HRS AGO...THIS SYSTEM PRODUCED SOME LIGHTNING STRIKES ACROSS LAKE SUPERIOR EARLIER IN THE NIGHT. THE MORE SIGNIFICANT PCPN WITH WAVE HAS PASSED MOSTLY N OF UPPER MI... JUST N OF THE VORT TRACK ACROSS NRN UPPER MI/SRN LAKE SUPERIOR. UPSTREAM...850MB TEMPS RANGE FROM -7C AT KINL TO -10C KBIS AND -12C AT CYQD. WHILE 00Z KBIS SOUNDING SHOWED DRYNESS IN THE BOUNDARY LAYER...KINL AND CQYD SOUNDINGS SHOWED DEEP MOISTURE...ESPECIALLY CYQD. THIS UPSTREAM COMBINATION OF COLD AIR/DEEP MOISTURE SUGGESTS AN ACTIVE LES PERIOD SHOULD BE ON THE WAY OVER THE NEXT 36HRS AS TROF AXIS TO THE W SHIFTS E. && .DISCUSSION... FCST CONCERNS INVOLVE LES LOCATION/INTENSITY AND SNOW ACCUMULATIONS THRU THURSDAY AND THEN POSSIBLE WINTER STORM FOR THE WEEKEND. GIVEN FAVORABLE INSTABILITY/MOISTURE...SOMEWHAT PUZZLED BY THE RELATIVELY LIGHT PCPN INDICATED BY THE NAM/GFS FOR THE LES TODAY THRU THU...BUT THERE MAY BE A REASON. WHILE DEEPER MOISTURE EVIDENT ON CYQD/KINL SOUNDINGS WILL REACH THE AREA...THE FLOW IN THE LOW-LEVELS IS MORE WRLY...WHICH MAY SUPPORT SOMEWHAT DRIER AIR IN THE BOUNDARY LAYER AS SUGGESTED BY THE KBIS SOUNDING. BOTH THE NAM AND GFS HINT AT THAT...BUT THE NAM/GFS SOUNDINGS AREN`T REALLY THAT DRY. WITH DEEP MOISTURE UWPARDS OF 8-10KFT AND DGZ DESCENDING MORE FIRMLY INTO THE CONVECTIVE LAYER UNDER CAA REGIME...HAVE TO BELIEVE LES WILL BE MORE SIGNIFICANT THAN THE NAM/GFS INDICATE. REGIONAL GEM IS MUCH MORE AGGRESSIVE WITH PCPN AMOUNTS. WHILE THE NAM HAS 12Z WED-00Z FRI PCPN AMOUNTS UP TO 0.4 INCHES NW TO 0.5 INCHES ALONG SHORE E OF MUNISING...THE REGIONAL GEM IS UPWARDS OF 0.8 INCHES NW TO OVER 2 INCHES E OF MUNISING. SOMETHING BTWN THE TWO EXTREMES IS PROBABLY REASONABLE...THOUGH THE REGIONAL GEM LOOKS QUITE EXCESSIVE OVER THE E. AT THIS POINT...WILL KEEP 12-24HR SNOW AMOUNTS JUST UNDER LES WARNING THRESHOLDS NW DUE TO UNCERTAINTY IN BOUNDARY LAYER MOISTURE. WITH LOW-LEVEL WINDS ESSENTIALLY W...LES WILL TARGET AREAS FROM ONTONAGON COUNTY THRU THE KEWEENAW. TO THE E...SLIGHT VEERING OF WINDS HIGHER IN THE CONVECTIVE LAYER SHOULD TEND TO FOCUS THE SRN LES BAND ALONG TO JUST INLAND FROM THE SHORE FROM PICTURED ROCKS EASTWARD. TYPICALLY...THE SRN MOST BAND YIELDS HEAVIEST SNOW RATES DUE TO LAND BREEZE CONVERGENCE AND THE OVERALL LONG FETCH ACROSS THE LAKE...ONLY INTERRUPTED BRIEFLY BY THE KEWEENAW. THUS...POTENTIAL EXISTS FOR VERY IMPRESSIVE SNOW ACCUMULATIONS OVER A SMALL AREA OF THE E CLOSE TO LAKE SUPERIOR...PROVIDED LES BAND DOES NOT SHIFT OFFSHORE FREQUENTLY. ALSO...DEEP/VIGOROUS CONVECTION AND RELATIVELY WARM EARLY SEASON WATER/BOUNDARY LAYER MAY LEAD TO MORE GRAUPEL/SNOW PELLET TYPE PCPN RATHER THAN LARGE SNOWFLAKES...WHICH WILL REDUCE SNOW ACCUMULATIONS OVER WHAT COULD BE EXPECTED. HAVE OPTED TO ISSUE A LAKE EFFECT SNOW WATCH FOR ALGER/LUCE...EMPHASIZING THE AREAS FROM AROUND GRAND MARAIS EASTWARD. AWAY FROM LES...DRY WEATHER WILL GENERALLY PREVAIL THRU THU. LES WILL WIND DOWN/END LATER THU/THU NIGHT AS MID/UPPER TROF SHIFTS E OF THE AREA AND FLOW BEGINS TO BACK IN ADVANCE OF TROF AMPLIFICATION OVER THE WRN CONUS. LEAD WAVE AHEAD OF THE WRN TROF AMPLIFICATION COMBINED WITH STRONG WAA COULD LEAD TO SOME LIGHT PCPN LATER THU NIGHT/FRI MORNING. LACK OF MOISTURE MAY RESULT IN PCPN OCCURRING FARTHER N IN THE COLDER AIR WHERE SATURATION THRU THE COLUMN CAN OCCUR. SHORTWAVE WILL LIFT OUT OF THE WRN TROF EARLY IN THE WEEKEND. FOR SEVERAL DAYS...MODELS HAVE SHOWN UNUSUALLY GOOD CONTINUITY ON SFC LOW TRACK DESPITE BEING WAY OUT IN THE FCST CYCLE. THERE HAVE BEEN THE EXPECTED INTENSITY/PLACEMENT ISSUES...BUT THEY WERE MINOR WHEN CONSIDERING THE TIME RANGE INTO THE FCST RUN. FOR 90 TO 108HRS INTO THE MODEL RUN...TODAYS 00Z ROUND OF MEDIUM RANGE GUIDANCE REMAINS WELL CLUSTERED ON A LOW TRACK FROM KS TO THE UPPER GREAT LAKES... SOMEWHERE BTWN CNTRL UPPER MI AND FAR NRN LWR MI/STRAITS AREA. ALL SUGGEST A HEADLINE SNOW EVENT FOR SOME PART OF THE FCST AREA... PROBABLY HIGH END ADVY TYPE. THE WRN MOST LOW TRACK (GFS) WOULD PROVIDE HEAVIEST SNOW OVER NW UPPER MI WHILE THE ERN TRACKS (GLOBAL GEM/ECMWF) WOULD SPREAD HEAVIEST SNOW OVER MOSTLY THE CNTRL PORTION OF UPPER MI. && .AVIATION /FOR THE 18Z TAF ISSUANCE/... COLD AIR MOVING ACROSS LAKE SUPERIOR WILL PRODUCE CLOUDS AND LAKE EFFECT SNOW FOR THE WEST TO NORTHWEST WIND SNOW BELTS FOR THE TAF PERIOD. THIS WILL LARGELY AFFECT KCMX WITH PERIODS OF MVFR CIGS AND IFR VSBYS. WITH KIWD NOT BEING UNDER FAVORABLE FLOW FOR SNOW...HAVE LEFT OUT MENTION...BUT DID KEEP MVFR CIGS FOR THE OVERNIGHT PERIOD FROM MOISTURE CURRENTLY IN NRN MN. KSAW WILL MAINLY SEE VFR CONDITIONS...BUT COULD SEE SOME BRIEF MVFR CIGS LATE TONIGHT INTO TOMORROW MORNING FROM STRONGER LAKE EFFECT SNOW BANDS OVER NORTHERN ONTONAGON COUNTY. && .MARINE /FOR THE 4 AM LAKE SUPERIOR FORECAST ISSUANCE/... EXPECT WESTERLY GALES TO DIMINISH BY THIS EVENING OVR LK SUPERIOR AS SFC LOW JUST EAST OF LK SUPERIOR HEADS INTO QUEBEC. WINDS REMAIN OUT OF THE W/NW UP TO 30 KTS THURSDAY INTO THURSDAY NIGHT...THEN BECOME MORE SOUTHERLY ON FRIDAY AS LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM PASSES TO NORTH OF LK SUPERIOR. COULD BE MARGINAL SRLY GALES OVR FAR EASTERN SECTIONS FRIDAY. ACTIVE PATTERN CONTINUES INTO THE UPCOMING WEEKEND AS ANOTHER LOW OVR THE PLAINS ON SATURDAY TRACKS ACROSS THE LAKE SUPERIOR REGION SATURDAY NIGHT. NE WINDS COULD REACH GALE FORCE OVR WESTERN SECTIONS SATURDAY WITH NW GALES THEN POSSIBLE LATE SATURDAY NIGHT INTO SUNDAY MORNING AS THE LOW PULLS AWAY FM THE REGION. && .MQT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... UPPER MICHIGAN... WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY UNTIL 5 PM EST THURSDAY FOR MIZ001>003- 084. LAKE EFFECT SNOW WATCH FROM 7 PM EST THIS EVENING THROUGH THURSDAY AFTERNOON FOR MIZ006-007. LAKE SUPERIOR... GALE WARNING UNTIL 10 PM EST THIS EVENING FOR LSZ248>251-265>267. GALE WARNING UNTIL 1 PM EST /NOON CST/ THIS AFTERNOON FOR LSZ162- 244-245. GALE WARNING UNTIL 4 PM EST /3 PM CST/ THIS AFTERNOON FOR LSZ241>243-263-264. LAKE MICHIGAN... NONE. && $$ SYNOPSIS...ROLFSON DISCUSSION...ROLFSON AVIATION...SRF MARINE...JLA
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS MARQUETTE MI
651 AM EST WED NOV 16 2011 UPDATED AVIATION DISCUSSION FOR 12Z TAFS .SYNOPSIS... WATER VAPOR IMAGERY AND RUC ANALYSIS SHOW BROAD CYCLONIC FLOW ACROSS MOST OF THE CONUS WITH AXIS ROUGHLY OVER THE WRN PLAINS. A VIGOROUS LOOKING SHORTWAVE IS TRACKING THRU THE UPPER GREAT LAKES ATTM. LIKE ITS PREDECESSOR 24-30HRS AGO...THIS SYSTEM PRODUCED SOME LIGHTNING STRIKES ACROSS LAKE SUPERIOR EARLIER IN THE NIGHT. THE MORE SIGNIFICANT PCPN WITH WAVE HAS PASSED MOSTLY N OF UPPER MI... JUST N OF THE VORT TRACK ACROSS NRN UPPER MI/SRN LAKE SUPERIOR. UPSTREAM...850MB TEMPS RANGE FROM -7C AT KINL TO -10C KBIS AND -12C AT CYQD. WHILE 00Z KBIS SOUNDING SHOWED DRYNESS IN THE BOUNDARY LAYER...KINL AND CQYD SOUNDINGS SHOWED DEEP MOISTURE...ESPECIALLY CYQD. THIS UPSTREAM COMBINATION OF COLD AIR/DEEP MOISTURE SUGGESTS AN ACTIVE LES PERIOD SHOULD BE ON THE WAY OVER THE NEXT 36HRS AS TROF AXIS TO THE W SHIFTS E. && .DISCUSSION... FCST CONCERNS INVOLVE LES LOCATION/INTENSITY AND SNOW ACCUMULATIONS THRU THURSDAY AND THEN POSSIBLE WINTER STORM FOR THE WEEKEND. GIVEN FAVORABLE INSTABILITY/MOISTURE...SOMEWHAT PUZZLED BY THE RELATIVELY LIGHT PCPN INDICATED BY THE NAM/GFS FOR THE LES TODAY THRU THU...BUT THERE MAY BE A REASON. WHILE DEEPER MOISTURE EVIDENT ON CYQD/KINL SOUNDINGS WILL REACH THE AREA...THE FLOW IN THE LOW-LEVELS IS MORE WRLY...WHICH MAY SUPPORT SOMEWHAT DRIER AIR IN THE BOUNDARY LAYER AS SUGGESTED BY THE KBIS SOUNDING. BOTH THE NAM AND GFS HINT AT THAT...BUT THE NAM/GFS SOUNDINGS AREN`T REALLY THAT DRY. WITH DEEP MOISTURE UWPARDS OF 8-10KFT AND DGZ DESCENDING MORE FIRMLY INTO THE CONVECTIVE LAYER UNDER CAA REGIME...HAVE TO BELIEVE LES WILL BE MORE SIGNIFICANT THAN THE NAM/GFS INDICATE. REGIONAL GEM IS MUCH MORE AGGRESSIVE WITH PCPN AMOUNTS. WHILE THE NAM HAS 12Z WED-00Z FRI PCPN AMOUNTS UP TO 0.4 INCHES NW TO 0.5 INCHES ALONG SHORE E OF MUNISING...THE REGIONAL GEM IS UPWARDS OF 0.8 INCHES NW TO OVER 2 INCHES E OF MUNISING. SOMETHING BTWN THE TWO EXTREMES IS PROBABLY REASONABLE...THOUGH THE REGIONAL GEM LOOKS QUITE EXCESSIVE OVER THE E. AT THIS POINT...WILL KEEP 12-24HR SNOW AMOUNTS JUST UNDER LES WARNING THRESHOLDS NW DUE TO UNCERTAINTY IN BOUNDARY LAYER MOISTURE. WITH LOW-LEVEL WINDS ESSENTIALLY W...LES WILL TARGET AREAS FROM ONTONAGON COUNTY THRU THE KEWEENAW. TO THE E...SLIGHT VEERING OF WINDS HIGHER IN THE CONVECTIVE LAYER SHOULD TEND TO FOCUS THE SRN LES BAND ALONG TO JUST INLAND FROM THE SHORE FROM PICTURED ROCKS EASTWARD. TYPICALLY...THE SRN MOST BAND YIELDS HEAVIEST SNOW RATES DUE TO LAND BREEZE CONVERGENCE AND THE OVERALL LONG FETCH ACROSS THE LAKE...ONLY INTERRUPTED BRIEFLY BY THE KEWEENAW. THUS...POTENTIAL EXISTS FOR VERY IMPRESSIVE SNOW ACCUMULATIONS OVER A SMALL AREA OF THE E CLOSE TO LAKE SUPERIOR...PROVIDED LES BAND DOES NOT SHIFT OFFSHORE FREQUENTLY. ALSO...DEEP/VIGOROUS CONVECTION AND RELATIVELY WARM EARLY SEASON WATER/BOUNDARY LAYER MAY LEAD TO MORE GRAUPEL/SNOW PELLET TYPE PCPN RATHER THAN LARGE SNOWFLAKES...WHICH WILL REDUCE SNOW ACCUMULATIONS OVER WHAT COULD BE EXPECTED. HAVE OPTED TO ISSUE A LAKE EFFECT SNOW WATCH FOR ALGER/LUCE...EMPHASIZING THE AREAS FROM AROUND GRAND MARAIS EASTWARD. AWAY FROM LES...DRY WEATHER WILL GENERALLY PREVAIL THRU THU. LES WILL WIND DOWN/END LATER THU/THU NIGHT AS MID/UPPER TROF SHIFTS E OF THE AREA AND FLOW BEGINS TO BACK IN ADVANCE OF TROF AMPLIFICATION OVER THE WRN CONUS. LEAD WAVE AHEAD OF THE WRN TROF AMPLIFICATION COMBINED WITH STRONG WAA COULD LEAD TO SOME LIGHT PCPN LATER THU NIGHT/FRI MORNING. LACK OF MOISTURE MAY RESULT IN PCPN OCCURRING FARTHER N IN THE COLDER AIR WHERE SATURATION THRU THE COLUMN CAN OCCUR. SHORTWAVE WILL LIFT OUT OF THE WRN TROF EARLY IN THE WEEKEND. FOR SEVERAL DAYS...MODELS HAVE SHOWN UNUSUALLY GOOD CONTINUITY ON SFC LOW TRACK DESPITE BEING WAY OUT IN THE FCST CYCLE. THERE HAVE BEEN THE EXPECTED INTENSITY/PLACEMENT ISSUES...BUT THEY WERE MINOR WHEN CONSIDERING THE TIME RANGE INTO THE FCST RUN. FOR 90 TO 108HRS INTO THE MODEL RUN...TODAYS 00Z ROUND OF MEDIUM RANGE GUIDANCE REMAINS WELL CLUSTERED ON A LOW TRACK FROM KS TO THE UPPER GREAT LAKES... SOMEWHERE BTWN CNTRL UPPER MI AND FAR NRN LWR MI/STRAITS AREA. ALL SUGGEST A HEADLINE SNOW EVENT FOR SOME PART OF THE FCST AREA... PROBABLY HIGH END ADVY TYPE. THE WRN MOST LOW TRACK (GFS) WOULD PROVIDE HEAVIEST SNOW OVER NW UPPER MI WHILE THE ERN TRACKS (GLOBAL GEM/ECMWF) WOULD SPREAD HEAVIEST SNOW OVER MOSTLY THE CNTRL PORTION OF UPPER MI. && .AVIATION /FOR THE 12Z TAF ISSUANCE/ COLD AIR MOVING INTO THE REGION ON WEST NORTHWEST WINDS BEHIND A SHORTWAVE TROUGH AND SFC LOW WILL SUPPORT LAKE EFFECT SNOW THROUGH THE PERIOD AT CMX. FOR THE MAJORITY OF THE TIME AT CMX...EXPECT LOWER MVFR CIGS WITH MAINLY IFR VSBY. MEANWHILE AT IWD AND SAW...WESTERLY LOW LEVEL WINDS ARE NOT FAVORABLE FOR LAKE EFFECT SNOW...SO LITTLE IN WAY OF VSBY REDUCTION IS EXPECTED. COULD SEE OCCASIONAL CIGS AT OR NEAR MVFR AT IWD AND SAW THOUGH. && .MARINE /FOR THE 4 AM LAKE SUPERIOR FORECAST ISSUANCE/... EXPECT WESTERLY GALES TO DIMINISH BY THIS EVENING OVR LK SUPERIOR AS SFC LOW JUST EAST OF LK SUPERIOR HEADS INTO QUEBEC. WINDS REMAIN OUT OF THE W/NW UP TO 30 KTS THURSDAY INTO THURSDAY NIGHT...THEN BECOME MORE SOUTHERLY ON FRIDAY AS LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM PASSES TO NORTH OF LK SUPERIOR. COULD BE MARGINAL SRLY GALES OVR FAR EASTERN SECTIONS FRIDAY. ACTIVE PATTERN CONTINUES INTO THE UPCOMING WEEKEND AS ANOTHER LOW OVR THE PLAINS ON SATURDAY TRACKS ACROSS THE LAKE SUPERIOR REGION SATURDAY NIGHT. NE WINDS COULD REACH GALE FORCE OVR WESTERN SECTIONS SATURDAY WITH NW GALES THEN POSSIBLE LATE SATURDAY NIGHT INTO SUNDAY MORNING AS THE LOW PULLS AWAY FM THE REGION. && .MQT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... UPPER MICHIGAN... WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY UNTIL 5 PM EST THURSDAY FOR MIZ001>003- 084. LAKE EFFECT SNOW WATCH FROM THIS EVENING THROUGH THURSDAY AFTERNOON FOR MIZ006-007. LAKE SUPERIOR... GALE WARNING UNTIL 10 PM EST THIS EVENING FOR LSZ248>251-265>267. GALE WARNING UNTIL 4 PM EST /3 PM CST/ THIS AFTERNOON FOR LSZ162- 241>243-263-264. GALE WARNING UNTIL 1 PM EST THIS AFTERNOON FOR LSZ244-245. LAKE MICHIGAN... GALE WARNING UNTIL 10 AM EST THIS MORNING FOR LMZ221-250. && $$ SYNOPSIS...ROLFSON DISCUSSION...ROLFSON AVIATION...JLA MARINE...JLA
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS MARQUETTE MI
549 AM EST WED NOV 16 2011 .SYNOPSIS... WATER VAPOR IMAGERY AND RUC ANALYSIS SHOW BROAD CYCLONIC FLOW ACROSS MOST OF THE CONUS WITH AXIS ROUGHLY OVER THE WRN PLAINS. A VIGOROUS LOOKING SHORTWAVE IS TRACKING THRU THE UPPER GREAT LAKES ATTM. LIKE ITS PREDECESSOR 24-30HRS AGO...THIS SYSTEM PRODUCED SOME LIGHTNING STRIKES ACROSS LAKE SUPERIOR EARLIER IN THE NIGHT. THE MORE SIGNIFICANT PCPN WITH WAVE HAS PASSED MOSTLY N OF UPPER MI... JUST N OF THE VORT TRACK ACROSS NRN UPPER MI/SRN LAKE SUPERIOR. UPSTREAM...850MB TEMPS RANGE FROM -7C AT KINL TO -10C KBIS AND -12C AT CYQD. WHILE 00Z KBIS SOUNDING SHOWED DRYNESS IN THE BOUNDARY LAYER...KINL AND CQYD SOUNDINGS SHOWED DEEP MOISTURE...ESPECIALLY CYQD. THIS UPSTREAM COMBINATION OF COLD AIR/DEEP MOISTURE SUGGESTS AN ACTIVE LES PERIOD SHOULD BE ON THE WAY OVER THE NEXT 36HRS AS TROF AXIS TO THE W SHIFTS E. && .DISCUSSION... FCST CONCERNS INVOLVE LES LOCATION/INTENSITY AND SNOW ACCUMULATIONS THRU THURSDAY AND THEN POSSIBLE WINTER STORM FOR THE WEEKEND. GIVEN FAVORABLE INSTABILITY/MOISTURE...SOMEWHAT PUZZLED BY THE RELATIVELY LIGHT PCPN INDICATED BY THE NAM/GFS FOR THE LES TODAY THRU THU...BUT THERE MAY BE A REASON. WHILE DEEPER MOISTURE EVIDENT ON CYQD/KINL SOUNDINGS WILL REACH THE AREA...THE FLOW IN THE LOW-LEVELS IS MORE WRLY...WHICH MAY SUPPORT SOMEWHAT DRIER AIR IN THE BOUNDARY LAYER AS SUGGESTED BY THE KBIS SOUNDING. BOTH THE NAM AND GFS HINT AT THAT...BUT THE NAM/GFS SOUNDINGS AREN`T REALLY THAT DRY. WITH DEEP MOISTURE UWPARDS OF 8-10KFT AND DGZ DESCENDING MORE FIRMLY INTO THE CONVECTIVE LAYER UNDER CAA REGIME...HAVE TO BELIEVE LES WILL BE MORE SIGNIFICANT THAN THE NAM/GFS INDICATE. REGIONAL GEM IS MUCH MORE AGGRESSIVE WITH PCPN AMOUNTS. WHILE THE NAM HAS 12Z WED-00Z FRI PCPN AMOUNTS UP TO 0.4 INCHES NW TO 0.5 INCHES ALONG SHORE E OF MUNISING...THE REGIONAL GEM IS UPWARDS OF 0.8 INCHES NW TO OVER 2 INCHES E OF MUNISING. SOMETHING BTWN THE TWO EXTREMES IS PROBABLY REASONABLE...THOUGH THE REGIONAL GEM LOOKS QUITE EXCESSIVE OVER THE E. AT THIS POINT...WILL KEEP 12-24HR SNOW AMOUNTS JUST UNDER LES WARNING THRESHOLDS NW DUE TO UNCERTAINTY IN BOUNDARY LAYER MOISTURE. WITH LOW-LEVEL WINDS ESSENTIALLY W...LES WILL TARGET AREAS FROM ONTONAGON COUNTY THRU THE KEWEENAW. TO THE E...SLIGHT VEERING OF WINDS HIGHER IN THE CONVECTIVE LAYER SHOULD TEND TO FOCUS THE SRN LES BAND ALONG TO JUST INLAND FROM THE SHORE FROM PICTURED ROCKS EASTWARD. TYPICALLY...THE SRN MOST BAND YIELDS HEAVIEST SNOW RATES DUE TO LAND BREEZE CONVERGENCE AND THE OVERALL LONG FETCH ACROSS THE LAKE...ONLY INTERRUPTED BRIEFLY BY THE KEWEENAW. THUS...POTENTIAL EXISTS FOR VERY IMPRESSIVE SNOW ACCUMULATIONS OVER A SMALL AREA OF THE E CLOSE TO LAKE SUPERIOR...PROVIDED LES BAND DOES NOT SHIFT OFFSHORE FREQUENTLY. ALSO...DEEP/VIGOROUS CONVECTION AND RELATIVELY WARM EARLY SEASON WATER/BOUNDARY LAYER MAY LEAD TO MORE GRAUPEL/SNOW PELLET TYPE PCPN RATHER THAN LARGE SNOWFLAKES...WHICH WILL REDUCE SNOW ACCUMULATIONS OVER WHAT COULD BE EXPECTED. HAVE OPTED TO ISSUE A LAKE EFFECT SNOW WATCH FOR ALGER/LUCE...EMPHASIZING THE AREAS FROM AROUND GRAND MARAIS EASTWARD. AWAY FROM LES...DRY WEATHER WILL GENERALLY PREVAIL THRU THU. LES WILL WIND DOWN/END LATER THU/THU NIGHT AS MID/UPPER TROF SHIFTS E OF THE AREA AND FLOW BEGINS TO BACK IN ADVANCE OF TROF AMPLIFICATION OVER THE WRN CONUS. LEAD WAVE AHEAD OF THE WRN TROF AMPLIFICATION COMBINED WITH STRONG WAA COULD LEAD TO SOME LIGHT PCPN LATER THU NIGHT/FRI MORNING. LACK OF MOISTURE MAY RESULT IN PCPN OCCURRING FARTHER N IN THE COLDER AIR WHERE SATURATION THRU THE COLUMN CAN OCCUR. SHORTWAVE WILL LIFT OUT OF THE WRN TROF EARLY IN THE WEEKEND. FOR SEVERAL DAYS...MODELS HAVE SHOWN UNUSUALLY GOOD CONTINUITY ON SFC LOW TRACK DESPITE BEING WAY OUT IN THE FCST CYCLE. THERE HAVE BEEN THE EXPECTED INTENSITY/PLACEMENT ISSUES...BUT THEY WERE MINOR WHEN CONSIDERING THE TIME RANGE INTO THE FCST RUN. FOR 90 TO 108HRS INTO THE MODEL RUN...TODAYS 00Z ROUND OF MEDIUM RANGE GUIDANCE REMAINS WELL CLUSTERED ON A LOW TRACK FROM KS TO THE UPPER GREAT LAKES... SOMEWHERE BTWN CNTRL UPPER MI AND FAR NRN LWR MI/STRAITS AREA. ALL SUGGEST A HEADLINE SNOW EVENT FOR SOME PART OF THE FCST AREA... PROBABLY HIGH END ADVY TYPE. THE WRN MOST LOW TRACK (GFS) WOULD PROVIDE HEAVIEST SNOW OVER NW UPPER MI WHILE THE ERN TRACKS (GLOBAL GEM/ECMWF) WOULD SPREAD HEAVIEST SNOW OVER MOSTLY THE CNTRL PORTION OF UPPER MI. && .AVIATION /FOR THE 06Z TAF ISSUANCE/ COLD AIR MOVING INTO THE REGION ON WEST NORTHWEST WINDS BEHIND A SHORTWAVE TROUGH AND LOW WILL SUPPORT LAKE ENHANCED SNOW OVER IWD AND CMX...WITH CIGS DROPPING INTO THE MVFR RANGE AND OCNL IFR VSBY. EXPECT SOME IMPROVEMENT AT IWD TOWARDS MID DAY AS MORE WESTERLY FLOW PUSHES THE BEST SNOW ACTIVITY NORTH OF THE TAF SITE. AT KCMX...MORE PERSISTENT LOWER MVFR OR NEAR IFR CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED AS THE LAKE EFFECT/ENHANCED SNOW CONTINUES. LOW LEVEL WINDS TOWARD KSAW WILL BE LESS FAVORABLE FOR LAKE EFFECT PCPN...BUT MAY SEE CIGS AT OR NEAR MVFR. && .MARINE /FOR THE 4 AM LAKE SUPERIOR FORECAST ISSUANCE/... EXPECT WESTERLY GALES TO DIMINISH BY THIS EVENING OVR LK SUPERIOR AS SFC LOW JUST EAST OF LK SUPERIOR HEADS INTO QUEBEC. WINDS REMAIN OUT OF THE W/NW UP TO 30 KTS THURSDAY INTO THURSDAY NIGHT...THEN BECOME MORE SOUTHERLY ON FRIDAY AS LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM PASSES TO NORTH OF LK SUPERIOR. COULD BE MARGINAL SRLY GALES OVR FAR EASTERN SECTIONS FRIDAY. ACTIVE PATTERN CONTINUES INTO THE UPCOMING WEEKEND AS ANOTHER LOW OVR THE PLAINS ON SATURDAY TRACKS ACROSS THE LAKE SUPERIOR REGION SATURDAY NIGHT. NE WINDS COULD REACH GALE FORCE OVR WESTERN SECTIONS SATURDAY WITH NW GALES THEN POSSIBLE LATE SATURDAY NIGHT INTO SUNDAY MORNING AS THE LOW PULLS AWAY FM THE REGION. && .MQT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... UPPER MICHIGAN... WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY UNTIL 5 PM EST THURSDAY FOR MIZ001>003- 084. LAKE EFFECT SNOW WATCH FROM THIS EVENING THROUGH THURSDAY AFTERNOON FOR MIZ006-007. LAKE SUPERIOR... GALE WARNING UNTIL 10 PM EST THIS EVENING FOR LSZ248>251-265>267. GALE WARNING UNTIL 4 PM EST /3 PM CST/ THIS AFTERNOON FOR LSZ162- 241>243-263-264. GALE WARNING UNTIL 1 PM EST THIS AFTERNOON FOR LSZ244-245. LAKE MICHIGAN... GALE WARNING UNTIL 10 AM EST THIS MORNING FOR LMZ221-250. && $$ SYNOPSIS...ROLFSON DISCUSSION...ROLFSON AVIATION...JLB MARINE...JLA
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS TWIN CITIES/CHANHASSEN MN
303 PM CST WED NOV 16 2011 .DISCUSSION... VERY COLD UPPER TROUGH SWINGING THROUGH THE AREA NOW. H5 TEMPS AROUND -40 THIS MORNING ABR TO GGW. VERY DRY AIR WITH SINGLE DIGIT DEW POINTS CURRENTLY OVER OUR SOUTHERN CWA. WILL NEED TO LOWER MIN TEMPS A BIT TONIGHT. IT DOES LOOK LIKE THERE IS A BACK EDGE TO THE COLD AIR CU/SC OVER EASTERN ND WITH MUCH OF THE CLOUD DECK OVER OUR AREA MAINLY CUFORM. THE TREND TOWARD CLEARING LOOKS GOOD THIS EVENING GIVING A GOOD START TO THE COLD OVERNIGHT MINS. LOOKS LIKE A COLD DAY FOR THURSDAY..BUT UNDER SUNNY SKIES DUE TO VERY DRY AIR OVER THE AREA. ATTENTION THEN TURNS TO THE SYSTEM FOR FRIDAY. SOME DECENT MODERATION AHEAD OF THE NORTHERN STREAM WAVE AND FRONT CROSSING THE AREA THURSDAY NIGHT AND FRIDAY. THIS SHOULD ALLOW RECOVERY TO TEMPS NEAR 50 OVER SOUTHERN MN ON FRIDAY. THE COLD FRONT SHOULD MOVE THROUGH THE AREAS FRIDAY NIGHT AND THEN STALL JUST TO OUR SOUTH. A TIGHT TEMP GRADIENT WILL SET UP ACROSS THE AREA ON SATURDAY. THERE HAS BEEN GENERAL CONSISTENCY IN FOCUSING THE BEST FORCING ACROSS CENTRAL MN INTO THE NORTHERN PART OF OUR WI AREA. THIS TREND CONTINUING AT LEAST WITH THE GFS AND ECMWF. THE NAM SEEMS A LITTLE TOO FAR TO THE NORTHWEST. WITH A SNOW COVER NOW DEVELOPING ACROSS CANADA INTO ND AND PARTS OF N MN...IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE HOW FAR SOUTH THE FRONT ENDS UP LATE FRIDAY AND FRIDAY NIGHT. THE COLD LOW LEVEL TEMP STRUCTURE COULD BE PROBLEMATIC WITH PTYPE..WITH THE OUTSIDE CHANCE OF FZRA IN A FEW AREAS OF THE SOUTH. WILL NOT TRY TO PIN THAT DOWN AT THIS POINT...BUT KEEP THE ZONE OF RASN. HAVE BROUGHT SOME SNOW POTENTIAL A LITTLE FARTHER SOUTH BUT THE NORTH HALF OF THE CWA STILL SEEMS TO HAVE THE BEST CHANCE. THE SREF PROBS OB THE BEST DENDRITIC ZONE IS IN NORTHERN MN BUT THIS IS OUT AT THE LAST FEW TIME STEPS OF THE RUN. IT DOES LOOK LIKE AN FGEN DRIVEN EVENT WITH THE OPEN WAVE...SO THERE WILL BE POTENTIAL FOR A SHARP CUT OFF TO PRECIP. AFTER A COLD PERIOD FOLLOWING THE SYSTEM..IT LOOKS LIKE WE WILL BE BACK TO A MAINLY MILD PATTERN WITH THE DEEP MEAN TROUGH OVER AK. THE LATEST NAEFS IS SHOWING A LARGE AREA OF PROBS OF ABOVE NORMAL TEMPS IN THE EASTERN HALF OF THE COUNTRY..EAST OF THE MO RIVER. && .AVIATION.../18Z TAF ISSUANCE/ MVFR CIGS HAVE DEVELOPED ALONG THE LEADING EDGE OF DEEPER MOISTURE MOVING ACROSS WC MN...AND CENTRAL MN. MOST OF THE CLDS ARE ASSOCIATED WITH A DIURNAL TREND WHICH SHOULD ABATE AFT SUNSET. HOWEVER...THICKER CLD CVR ACROSS SC ND...AND INTO NE SD MAY ALLOW FOR THE CLDS TO LINGER INTO THE EVENING. THIS IS THE MAIN AVIATION CONCERN IN THE SHORT TERM...WITH THE COMMON DIURNAL TREND OF THE GUSTY W/NW WNDS THIS AFTN. BASED ON UPSTREAM OBS IN SD/ND AND ACROSS PORTIONS OF WC/C MN...WILL CONTINUE THE HIGH END MVFR CIGS FOR AXN...AND POSSIBLY STC IF CONDITIONS WARRANT. MOST OF THE OTHER MPX TAF SITES WILL REMAIN VFR OR AT LEAST HAVE CIGS ABV 3K. SOME -SN HAS DEVELOPED IN THE PORTIONS OF SC/SE ND WHERE DEEPER MOISTURE AND ASSOCIATED DENDRITIC ZONE HAS ALLOWED FOR -SN...BUT COVERAGE WILL REMAIN TOO LOW FOR ANY TYPE OF -SN IN THE AFTN TAF. WILL MONITOR IF CONDITIONS BECOME MORE SCATTERED/WIDESPREAD AS THE LATEST RUC IS HINTING ON THIS. WNDS WILL BECOME MORE W/SW OVERNIGHT...THEN SW/S BY THU MORNING. MSP...SCT/BKN CLDS ARND 3-3.5K WILL MOVE ACROSS MSP AIRPORT DURING THE AFTN...BUT WILL CONTINUE WITH VFR CIGS OF 4-5K AT THIS TIME. WNDS CURRENTLY FROM THE SW...BUT IT SHOULD CHG DURING THE AFTN AS MIXING DEVELOPS AND ALLOWS FOR SOME GUSTS UP TO 22 KTS FROM THE WNW. WNDS WILL DECREASE TOWARD SUNSET...THEN BECOME MORE WSW/SW BY MORNING...BUT REMAIN UNDER 8 KTS. OUTLOOK FOR SATURDAY STILL LOOKS FAVORABLE FOR MVFR/IFR CIGS/VSBYS AS A STORM SYSTEM MOVES FROM THE CENTRAL PLAINS/INTO THE UPPER MIDWEST. TIMING AND TRANSITION FROM RA TO SN WILL REMAIN PROBLEMATIC /MAINLY SOUTH OF RWF TO MSP AND RNH/...BUT CURRENT TRENDS INDICATE THAT THE WORSE CONDITIONS WILL BE FROM 18Z/19...TO 06Z/20. OR LATE SATURDAY AFTN...THRU THE EVENING. ..JLT.. && .MPX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... MN...NONE. WI...NONE. && $$ JPR/JLT
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS TWIN CITIES/CHANHASSEN MN
1126 AM CST WED NOV 16 2011 .DISCUSSION... A COLD WEST-NORTHWEST FLOW OF AIR WILL COVER THE REGION INTO THURSDAY. A SHORT WAVE OVER NORTH DAKOTA WILL PROGRESS TO THE WESTERN GREAT LAKES BY TONIGHT. SOME CLOUDINESS OVER CENTRAL MN AND WEST CENTRAL WI EARLY THIS MORNING WILL PART FOR A TIME BEFORE ANOTHER SURGE OF LOW CLOUDINESS ARRIVES FOR THE AFTERNOON AND EVENING HOURS. OUR LOCAL MODEL AND THE RUC PAINT SOME LIGHT ECHOES ACROSS CENTRAL MN AND WEST CENTRAL WI DURING THE AFTERNOON AND EVENING HOURS...SO KEPT THE MENTION OF FLURRIES TO THESE AREAS. THERE SHOULD BE A GOOD DEAL OF SUNSHINE ACROSS SOUTHERN MN TODAY. THE MIX-DOWN TD TOOL POINTS TO DEW POINT LOWERING TO AROUND 5 DEG C DURING THE AFTERNOON. WE ARE CURRENTLY SEEING SOME SINGLE DIGIT DEW POINTS NEAR THE SD/NE EARLY THIS MORNING. THE ARW/NMM WRFS ALSO INDICATE DINGLE DIGIT DEW POINT IN THE SOUTH THIS AFTERNOON. HENCE...BLENDED IN THE MIX DOWN DPS WITH CONSENSUS FOR THE AFTERNOON AND EVENING HOURS. TRENDED A FEW DEGREES HIGHER ON HIGH TEMPERATURES TODAY OVER THE SOUTHERN HALF OF THE CWA VERSUS MET/MAV MOS DUE TO MORE SUNSHINE AND WHAT THE MIX DOWN MAX T WAS SHOWING. FLURRIES/CLOUDS WILL DIMINISH TONIGHT OVER THE NORTHERN AND EASTERN CWA AS HIGH PRESSURE MOVES IN LATE IN THE NIGHT. THE RIDGE WILL MOVE ACROSS THE CWA ON THURSDAY WITH FLOW BECOMING MORE SOUTHERLY. IT WILL STILL BE A COOL DAY WITH HIGHS ONLY IN THE 30S. AS THE RIDGE MOVES EAST THURSDAY NIGHT...A WARM FRONT WILL DEVELOP AND MOVE NORTHEAST ACROSS THE CWA. ONLY SOME CLOUDS EXPECTED WITH THE WARM FRONT. THIS WILL LEAD TO A WARMER FRIDAY WITH HIGHS REACHING WELL INTO THE 40S IN MOST AREAS WITH SOME 50S IN THE SOUTH. THE LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM AND PRECIPITATION EVENT FOR SATURDAY AND SATURDAY NIGHT REMAINS ON TRACK. THE GEM AND ECMWF ARE IN STEP WITH THIS SYSTEM WHILE THE GFS LAGS BY ABOUT 6 HOURS. THE GFS ENSEMBLE IS EVEN SLOWER BY ABOUT ANOTHER 6 HOURS. STILL EXPECT A LOW TO TRACK FROM EASTERN NEBRASKA SATURDAY MORNING TO EASTERN WI BY SATURDAY NIGHT. ALL SOLUTIONS INDICATE THE LOW SLOWLY FILLING DURING THIS PERIOD WHICH IS NOTE GOOD FOR A HEAVY SNOW EVENT. WE ALSO CONTINUE TO SEE AN OPEN WAVE ALOFT WHICH SPEAKS FOR THE QUICKNESS WITH THIS SYSTEM. LOOKING AT SOME OF THE MID/UPPER LEVEL FEATURES SHOWS THE H5 HEIGHT FALL TRACK FROM YELLOW MEDICINE COUNTY TO BURNETT COUNTY. THE -15 DEG C OMEGA IS ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THIS TRACK WITH THE DEPTH OF THE DENDRITIC GROWTH ZONE BEING ABOUT 1100M. THE WARM POCKET AT H2 ALSO TRACKS ALONG THE AFOREMENTIONED AXIS WITH 10 DEG OF WARMING NOTED. THE 295K THETA SURFACE PLACES 700 MB ABOUT IN THIS GENERAL AREA AS WELL WITH PLENTY OF SATURATION AND ADIABATIC OMEGA NOTED TO THE NORTH AND WEST. THE MIX RATIO CONTINUES TO RUN BETWEEN 2 AND 3 G/KG AND IS ALIGNED WITH THE -FN VECTOR DIVERGENCE. THIS ALL POINTS TO A BAND OF 4 TO LOCALLY 6 INCHES FROM WEST CENTRAL MN ON NORTHEAST TO DULUTH AND HAYWARD. THE CARIBOU SNOW TOOL USING THE GFS AGREES PRETTY WELL WITH THIS SCENARIO. ALSO INTERESTING IS THE 16/00Z CIPS DATA...BASED ON THE TOP 15 ANALOGS...WHICH SHOWS MEAN SNOWFALL OF 4 TO 6 FROM WEST CENTRAL MN THROUGH THE ARROWHEAD AND FAR NORTHERN AREAS OF WI WITH 2 TO 3 INCHES FROM SOUTHWEST MN THROUGH THE METRO AND ACROSS MUCH OF WEST CENTRAL WI. IN THE WAKE OF THE LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM...A RATHER SUBSTANTIAL HIGH WILL BUILD OVER THE REGION FROM SUNDAY THROUGH TUESDAY WITH DRY WEATHER AND BELOW NORMAL TEMPERATURES OCCURRING. && .AVIATION.../18Z TAF ISSUANCE/ MVFR CIGS HAVE DEVELOPED ALONG THE LEADING EDGE OF DEEPER MOISTURE MOVING ACROSS WC MN...AND CENTRAL MN. MOST OF THE CLDS ARE ASSOCIATED WITH A DIURNAL TREND WHICH SHOULD ABATE AFT SUNSET. HOWEVER...THICKER CLD CVR ACROSS SC ND...AND INTO NE SD MAY ALLOW FOR THE CLDS TO LINGER INTO THE EVENING. THIS IS THE MAIN AVIATION CONCERN IN THE SHORT TERM...WITH THE COMMON DIURNAL TREND OF THE GUSTY W/NW WNDS THIS AFTN. BASED ON UPSTREAM OBS IN SD/ND AND ACROSS PORTIONS OF WC/C MN...WILL CONTINUE THE HIGH END MVFR CIGS FOR AXN...AND POSSIBLY STC IF CONDITIONS WARRANT. MOST OF THE OTHER MPX TAF SITES WILL REMAIN VFR OR AT LEAST HAVE CIGS ABV 3K. SOME -SN HAS DEVELOPED IN THE PORTIONS OF SC/SE ND WHERE DEEPER MOISTURE AND ASSOCIATED DENDRITIC ZONE HAS ALLOWED FOR -SN...BUT COVERAGE WILL REMAIN TOO LOW FOR ANY TYPE OF -SN IN THE AFTN TAF. WILL MONITOR IF CONDITIONS BECOME MORE SCATTERED/WIDESPREAD AS THE LATEST RUC IS HINTING ON THIS. WNDS WILL BECOME MORE W/SW OVERNIGHT...THEN SW/S BY THU MORNING. MSP...SCT/BKN CLDS ARND 3-3.5K WILL MOVE ACROSS MSP AIRPORT DURING THE AFTN...BUT WILL CONTINUE WITH VFR CIGS OF 4-5K AT THIS TIME. WNDS CURRENTLY FROM THE SW...BUT IT SHOULD CHG DURING THE AFTN AS MIXING DEVELOPS AND ALLOWS FOR SOME GUSTS UP TO 22 KTS FROM THE WNW. WNDS WILL DECREASE TOWARD SUNSET...THEN BECOME MORE WSW/SW BY MORNING...BUT REMAIN UNDER 8 KTS. OUTLOOK FOR SATURDAY STILL LOOKS FAVORABLE FOR MVFR/IFR CIGS/VSBYS AS A STORM SYSTEM MOVES FROM THE CENTRAL PLAINS/INTO THE UPPER MIDWEST. TIMING AND TRANSITION FROM RA TO SN WILL REMAIN PROBLEMATIC /MAINLY SOUTH OF RWF TO MSP AND RNH/...BUT CURRENT TRENDS INDICATE THAT THE WORSE CONDITIONS WILL BE FROM 18Z/19...TO 06Z/20. OR LATE SATURDAY AFTN...THRU THE EVENING. ..JLT.. && .MPX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... MN...NONE. WI...NONE. && $$ RAH/JLT
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION...UPDATED
NWS TWIN CITIES/CHANHASSEN MN
610 AM CST WED NOV 16 2011 .UPDATE... UPDATED FOR THE 12Z AVIATION DISCUSSION BELOW. .DISCUSSION... A COLD WEST-NORTHWEST FLOW OF AIR WILL COVER THE REGION INTO THURSDAY. A SHORT WAVE OVER NORTH DAKOTA WILL PROGRESS TO THE WESTERN GREAT LAKES BY TONIGHT. SOME CLOUDINESS OVER CENTRAL MN AND WEST CENTRAL WI EARLY THIS MORNING WILL PART FOR A TIME BEFORE ANOTHER SURGE OF LOW CLOUDINESS ARRIVES FOR THE AFTERNOON AND EVENING HOURS. OUR LOCAL MODEL AND THE RUC PAINT SOME LIGHT ECHOES ACROSS CENTRAL MN AND WEST CENTRAL WI DURING THE AFTERNOON AND EVENING HOURS...SO KEPT THE MENTION OF FLURRIES TO THESE AREAS. THERE SHOULD BE A GOOD DEAL OF SUNSHINE ACROSS SOUTHERN MN TODAY. THE MIX-DOWN TD TOOL POINTS TO DEW POINT LOWERING TO AROUND 5 DEG C DURING THE AFTERNOON. WE ARE CURRENTLY SEEING SOME SINGLE DIGIT DEW POINTS NEAR THE SD/NE EARLY THIS MORNING. THE ARW/NMM WRFS ALSO INDICATE DINGLE DIGIT DEW POINT IN THE SOUTH THIS AFTERNOON. HENCE...BLENDED IN THE MIX DOWN DPS WITH CONSENSUS FOR THE AFTERNOON AND EVENING HOURS. TRENDED A FEW DEGREES HIGHER ON HIGH TEMPERATURES TODAY OVER THE SOUTHERN HALF OF THE CWA VERSUS MET/MAV MOS DUE TO MORE SUNSHINE AND WHAT THE MIX DOWN MAX T WAS SHOWING. FLURRIES/CLOUDS WILL DIMINISH TONIGHT OVER THE NORTHERN AND EASTERN CWA AS HIGH PRESSURE MOVES IN LATE IN THE NIGHT. THE RIDGE WILL MOVE ACROSS THE CWA ON THURSDAY WITH FLOW BECOMING MORE SOUTHERLY. IT WILL STILL BE A COOL DAY WITH HIGHS ONLY IN THE 30S. AS THE RIDGE MOVES EAST THURSDAY NIGHT...A WARM FRONT WILL DEVELOP AND MOVE NORTHEAST ACROSS THE CWA. ONLY SOME CLOUDS EXPECTED WITH THE WARM FRONT. THIS WILL LEAD TO A WARMER FRIDAY WITH HIGHS REACHING WELL INTO THE 40S IN MOST AREAS WITH SOME 50S IN THE SOUTH. THE LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM AND PRECIPITATION EVENT FOR SATURDAY AND SATURDAY NIGHT REMAINS ON TRACK. THE GEM AND ECMWF ARE IN STEP WITH THIS SYSTEM WHILE THE GFS LAGS BY ABOUT 6 HOURS. THE GFS ENSEMBLE IS EVEN SLOWER BY ABOUT ANOTHER 6 HOURS. STILL EXPECT A LOW TO TRACK FROM EASTERN NEBRASKA SATURDAY MORNING TO EASTERN WI BY SATURDAY NIGHT. ALL SOLUTIONS INDICATE THE LOW SLOWLY FILLING DURING THIS PERIOD WHICH IS NOTE GOOD FOR A HEAVY SNOW EVENT. WE ALSO CONTINUE TO SEE AN OPEN WAVE ALOFT WHICH SPEAKS FOR THE QUICKNESS WITH THIS SYSTEM. LOOKING AT SOME OF THE MID/UPPER LEVEL FEATURES SHOWS THE H5 HEIGHT FALL TRACK FROM YELLOW MEDICINE COUNTY TO BURNETT COUNTY. THE -15 DEG C OMEGA IS ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THIS TRACK WITH THE DEPTH OF THE DENDRITIC GROWTH ZONE BEING ABOUT 1100M. THE WARM POCKET AT H2 ALSO TRACKS ALONG THE AFOREMENTIONED AXIS WITH 10 DEG OF WARMING NOTED. THE 295K THETA SURFACE PLACES 700 MB ABOUT IN THIS GENERAL AREA AS WELL WITH PLENTY OF SATURATION AND ADIABATIC OMEGA NOTED TO THE NORTH AND WEST. THE MIX RATIO CONTINUES TO RUN BETWEEN 2 AND 3 G/KG AND IS ALIGNED WITH THE -FN VECTOR DIVERGENCE. THIS ALL POINTS TO A BAND OF 4 TO LOCALLY 6 INCHES FROM WEST CENTRAL MN ON NORTHEAST TO DULUTH AND HAYWARD. THE CARIBOU SNOW TOOL USING THE GFS AGREES PRETTY WELL WITH THIS SCENARIO. ALSO INTERESTING IS THE 16/00Z CIPS DATA...BASED ON THE TOP 15 ANALOGS...WHICH SHOWS MEAN SNOWFALL OF 4 TO 6 FROM WEST CENTRAL MN THROUGH THE ARROWHEAD AND FAR NORTHERN AREAS OF WI WITH 2 TO 3 INCHES FROM SOUTHWEST MN THROUGH THE METRO AND ACROSS MUCH OF WEST CENTRAL WI. IN THE WAKE OF THE LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM...A RATHER SUBSTANTIAL HIGH WILL BUILD OVER THE REGION FROM SUNDAY THROUGH TUESDAY WITH DRY WEATHER AND BELOW NORMAL TEMPERATURES OCCURRING. && .AVIATION.../12Z TAF ISSUANCE/ CURRENT 3000-4500FT CEILINGS BEING OBSERVED THIS MORNING IN PORTIONS OF NORTHERN WISCONSIN AND CENTRAL WILL LARGEST SLIDE EAST WITH TIME AND BYPASS MOST OF THE TAF SITES. A SECOND WEAKER WAVE WILL PASS THROUGH THE AREA TODAY AND COULD SHAKE OUT A FEW SNOW FLURRIES AS WELL. LIKE THE PAST COUPLE DAYS...THE WIND WILL REMAIN QUITE STRONG OUT OF THE WEST/NORTHWEST AND FINALLY BEGIN TO SUBSIDE THIS EVENING. KMSP...VERY LITTLE RISK FOR ANY WEATHER IMPACTS TO AVIATION OUTSIDE THE WIND...WHICH WILL AGAIN BE QUITE GUSTY BY THIS AFTERNOON. SUSTAINED WINDS NEAR 15KTS WITH GUSTS TO 25KTS ARE EXPECTED ACROSS EASTERN MN. SHOULD SEE MORE SUN THAN CLOUD TODAY AND THE WINDS WILL FINALLY RELAX THIS EVENING AND REMAIN LIGHT THROUGH THURSDAY MORNING. OUTLOOK...FAIRLY QUIET WEATHER OVER THE NEXT COUPLE DAYS. CEILING AND VISIBILITY RESTRICTIONS ARE EXPECTED SATURDAY NIGHT WHEN A SYSTEM BRINGS ACCUMULATING SNOW TO MN/WI. && .MPX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... MN...NONE. WI...NONE. && $$ 99/99
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS TWIN CITIES/CHANHASSEN MN
347 AM CST WED NOV 16 2011 .DISCUSSION... A COLD WEST-NORTHWEST FLOW OF AIR WILL COVER THE REGION INTO THURSDAY. A SHORT WAVE OVER NORTH DAKOTA WILL PROGRESS TO THE WESTERN GREAT LAKES BY TONIGHT. SOME CLOUDINESS OVER CENTRAL MN AND WEST CENTRAL WI EARLY THIS MORNING WILL PART FOR A TIME BEFORE ANOTHER SURGE OF LOW CLOUDINESS ARRIVES FOR THE AFTERNOON AND EVENING HOURS. OUR LOCAL MODEL AND THE RUC PAINT SOME LIGHT ECHOES ACROSS CENTRAL MN AND WEST CENTRAL WI DURING THE AFTERNOON AND EVENING HOURS...SO KEPT THE MENTION OF FLURRIES TO THESE AREAS. THERE SHOULD BE A GOOD DEAL OF SUNSHINE ACROSS SOUTHERN MN TODAY. THE MIX-DOWN TD TOOL POINTS TO DEW POINT LOWERING TO AROUND 5 DEG C DURING THE AFTERNOON. WE ARE CURRENTLY SEEING SOME SINGLE DIGIT DEW POINTS NEAR THE SD/NE EARLY THIS MORNING. THE ARW/NMM WRFS ALSO INDICATE DINGLE DIGIT DEW POINT IN THE SOUTH THIS AFTERNOON. HENCE...BLENDED IN THE MIX DOWN DPS WITH CONSENSUS FOR THE AFTERNOON AND EVENING HOURS. TRENDED A FEW DEGREES HIGHER ON HIGH TEMPERATURES TODAY OVER THE SOUTHERN HALF OF THE CWA VERSUS MET/MAV MOS DUE TO MORE SUNSHINE AND WHAT THE MIX DOWN MAX T WAS SHOWING. FLURRIES/CLOUDS WILL DIMINISH TONIGHT OVER THE NORTHERN AND EASTERN CWA AS HIGH PRESSURE MOVES IN LATE IN THE NIGHT. THE RIDGE WILL MOVE ACROSS THE CWA ON THURSDAY WITH FLOW BECOMING MORE SOUTHERLY. IT WILL STILL BE A COOL DAY WITH HIGHS ONLY IN THE 30S. AS THE RIDGE MOVES EAST THURSDAY NIGHT...A WARM FRONT WILL DEVELOP AND MOVE NORTHEAST ACROSS THE CWA. ONLY SOME CLOUDS EXPECTED WITH THE WARM FRONT. THIS WILL LEAD TO A WARMER FRIDAY WITH HIGHS REACHING WELL INTO THE 40S IN MOST AREAS WITH SOME 50S IN THE SOUTH. THE LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM AND PRECIPITATION EVENT FOR SATURDAY AND SATURDAY NIGHT REMAINS ON TRACK. THE GEM AND ECMWF ARE IN STEP WITH THIS SYSTEM WHILE THE GFS LAGS BY ABOUT 6 HOURS. THE GFS ENSEMBLE IS EVEN SLOWER BY ABOUT ANOTHER 6 HOURS. STILL EXPECT A LOW TO TRACK FROM EASTERN NEBRASKA SATURDAY MORNING TO EASTERN WI BY SATURDAY NIGHT. ALL SOLUTIONS INDICATE THE LOW SLOWLY FILLING DURING THIS PERIOD WHICH IS NOTE GOOD FOR A HEAVY SNOW EVENT. WE ALSO CONTINUE TO SEE AN OPEN WAVE ALOFT WHICH SPEAKS FOR THE QUICKNESS WITH THIS SYSTEM. LOOKING AT SOME OF THE MID/UPPER LEVEL FEATURES SHOWS THE H5 HEIGHT FALL TRACK FROM YELLOW MEDICINE COUNTY TO BURNETT COUNTY. THE -15 DEG C OMEGA IS ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THIS TRACK WITH THE DEPTH OF THE DENDRITIC GROWTH ZONE BEING ABOUT 1100M. THE WARM POCKET AT H2 ALSO TRACKS ALONG THE AFOREMENTIONED AXIS WITH 10 DEG OF WARMING NOTED. THE 295K THETA SURFACE PLACES 700 MB ABOUT IN THIS GENERAL AREA AS WELL WITH PLENTY OF SATURATION AND ADIABATIC OMEGA NOTED TO THE NORTH AND WEST. THE MIX RATIO CONTINUES TO RUN BETWEEN 2 AND 3 G/KG AND IS ALIGNED WITH THE -FN VECTOR DIVERGENCE. THIS ALL POINTS TO A BAND OF 4 TO LOCALLY 6 INCHES FROM WEST CENTRAL MN ON NORTHEAST TO DULUTH AND HAYWARD. THE CARIBOU SNOW TOOL USING THE GFS AGREES PRETTY WELL WITH THIS SCENARIO. ALSO INTERESTING IS THE 16/00Z CIPS DATA...BASED ON THE TOP 15 ANALOGS...WHICH SHOWS MEAN SNOWFALL OF 4 TO 6 FROM WEST CENTRAL MN THROUGH THE ARROWHEAD AND FAR NORTHERN AREAS OF WI WITH 2 TO 3 INCHES FROM SOUTHWEST MN THROUGH THE METRO AND ACROSS MUCH OF WEST CENTRAL WI. IN THE WAKE OF THE LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM...A RATHER SUBSTANTIAL HIGH WILL BUILD OVER THE REGION FROM SUNDAY THROUGH TUESDAY WITH DRY WEATHER AND BELOW NORMAL TEMPERATURES OCCURRING. && .AVIATION... /06Z TAF ISSUANCE/ BKN040 WILL AFFECT MOST TAFS BUT RWF FOR A TIME DURING THE NEXT 4-6 HOURS AS NW FLOW BRINGS DOWN CLOUDS IN WAKE OF STRONG VORT NOW VCNTY OF DULUTH. UPSTREAM VORT IN SASK WILL MOVE ACROSS N MN ON WEDNESDAY SENDING ANOTHER CDFNT ACROSS AREA WITH MORE VFR CLDS. GRADIENT REMAINS FAIRLY STRONG OVERNITE...SO WINDS SHUD REMAIN IN 12 TO 15 KT RANGE. WNW WINDS BECOMING GUSTY AGAIN DURING THE DAY WED WITH GUSTS 20 TO 25 KTS BY AROUND 18Z. KMSP...SHUD SEE A PERIOD OF BKN040 BETWEEN 06Z-10Z AS CLOUDS SKIRT ACROSS CENTRAL MN. GUSTINESS HAS SLOWLY BEEN DIMINISHING LAST COUPLE OF HOURS AND THIS TREND WILL CONTINUE OVERNITE...SUSTAINED WINDS SHUD REMAIN IN THE 12-15 KT RANGE MOST OF NITE. GUSTS 20-25 KT RETURNING BY 18Z WED. && .MPX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... MN...NONE. WI...NONE. && $$ RAH/BAP
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS TWIN CITIES/CHANHASSEN MN
333 AM CST WED NOV 16 2011 .DISCUSSION... A COLD WEST-NORTHWEST FLOW OF AIR WILL COVER THE REGION INTO THURSDAY. A SHORT WAVE OVER NORTH DAKOTA WILL PROGRESS TO THE WESTERN GREAT LAKES BY TONIGHT. SOME CLOUDINESS OVER CENTRAL MN AND WEST CENTRAL WI EARLY THIS MORNING WILL PART FOR A TIME BEFORE ANOTHER SURGE OF LOW CLOUDINESS ARRIVES FOR THE AFTERNOON AND EVENING HOURS. OUR LOCAL MODEL AND THE RUC PAINT SOME LIGHT ECHOES ACROSS CENTRAL MN AND WEST CENTRAL WI DURING THE AFTERNOON AND EVENING HOURS...SO KEPT THE MENTION OF FLURRIES TO THESE AREAS. THERE SHOULD BE A GOOD DEAL OF SUNSHINE ACROSS SOUTHERN MN TODAY. THE MIX-DOWN TD TOOL POINTS TO DEW POINT LOWERING TO AROUND 5 DEG C DURING THE AFTERNOON. WE ARE CURRENTLY SEEING SOME SINGLE DIGIT DEW POINTS NEAR THE SD/NE EARLY THIS MORNING. THE ARW/NMM WRFS ALSO INDICATE DINGLE DIGIT DEW POINT IN THE SOUTH THIS AFTERNOON. HENCE...BLENDED IN THE MIX DOWN DPS WITH CONSENSUS FOR THE AFTERNOON AND EVENING HOURS. TRENDED A FEW DEGREES HIGHER ON HIGH TEMPERATURES TODAY OVER THE SOUTHERN HALF OF THE CWA VERSUS MET/MAV MOS DUE TO MORE SUNSHINE AND WHAT THE MIX DOWN MAX T WAS SHOWING. FLURRIES/CLOUDS WILL DIMINISH TONIGHT OVER THE NORTHERN AND EASTERN CWA AS HIGH PRESSURE MOVES IN LATE IN THE NIGHT. THE RIDGE WILL MOVE ACROSS THE CWA ON THURSDAY WITH FLOW BECOMING MORE SOUTHERLY. IT WILL STILL BE A COOL DAY WITH HIGHS ONLY IN THE 30S. AS THE RIDGE MOVES EAST THURSDAY NIGHT...A WARM FRONT WILL DEVELOP AND MOVE NORTHEAST ACROSS THE CWA. ONLY SOME CLOUDS EXPECTED WITH THE WARM FRONT. THIS WILL LEAD TO A WARMER FRIDAY WITH HIGHS REACHING WELL INTO THE 40S IN MOST AREAS WITH SOME 50S IN THE SOUTH. THE LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM AND PRECIPITATION EVENT FOR SATURDAY AND SATURDAY NIGHT REMAINS ON TRACK. THE GEM AND ECMWF ARE IN STEP WITH THIS SYSTEM WHILE THE GFS LAGS BY ABOUT 6 HOURS. THE GFS ENSEMBLE IS EVEN SLOWER BY ABOUT ANOTHER 6 HOURS. STILL EXPECT A LOW TO TRACK FROM EASTERN NEBRASKA SATURDAY MORNING TO EASTERN WI BY SATURDAY NIGHT. ALL SOLUTIONS INDICATE THE LOW SLOWLY FILLING DURING THIS PERIOD WHICH IS NOTE GOOD FOR A HEAVY SNOW EVENT. WE ALSO CONTINUE TO SEE AN OPEN WAVE ALOFT WHICH SPEAKS FOR THE QUICKNESS WITH THIS SYSTEM. LOOKING AT SOME OF THE MID/UPPER LEVEL FEATURES SHOWS THE H5 HEIGHT FALL TRACK FROM YELLOW MEDICINE COUNTY TO BURNETT COUNTY. THE -15 DEG C OMEGA IS ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THIS TRACK WITH THE DEPTH OF THE DENDRITIC GROWTH ZONE BEING ABOUT 1100M. THE WARM POCKET AT H2 ALSO TRACKS ALONG THE AFOREMENTIONED AXIS WITH 10 DEG OF WARMING NOTED. THE 295K THETA SURFACE PLACES 700 MB ABOUT IN THIS GENERAL AREA AS WELL WITH PLENTY OF SATURATION AND ADIABATIC OMEGA NOTED TO THE NORTH AND WEST. THE MIX RATIO CONTINUES TO RUN BETWEEN 2 AND 3 G/KG AND IS ALIGNED WITH THE -FN VECTOR DIVERGENCE. THIS ALL POINTS TO A BAND OF 4 TO LOCALLY 6 INCHES FROM WEST CENTRAL MN ON NORTHEAST TO DULUTH AND HAYWARD. THE CARIBOU SNOW TOOL USING THE GFS AGREES WITH THIS SCENARIO. SNOW AMOUNTS TO THE SOUTHEAST OF THIS AREA WILL BE MORE IN THE 1 TO 3 INCH RANGE AS IT CURRENTLY STANDS. THE SMALLER TOTALS WOULD BE FROM ALBERT LEA TO EAU CLAIRE WHERE RAIN WILL DOMINATE FOR MUCH OF THE PERIOD. A RATHER SUBSTANTIAL HIGH PRESSURE SYSTEM WILL BUILD OVER THE REGION FROM SUNDAY THROUGH TUESDAY WITH DRY WEATHER AND BELOW NORMAL TEMPERATURES OCCURRING. && .AVIATION... /06Z TAF ISSUANCE/ BKN040 WILL AFFECT MOST TAFS BUT RWF FOR A TIME DURING THE NEXT 4-6 HOURS AS NW FLOW BRINGS DOWN CLOUDS IN WAKE OF STRONG VORT NOW VCNTY OF DULUTH. UPSTREAM VORT IN SASK WILL MOVE ACROSS N MN ON WEDNESDAY SENDING ANOTHER CDFNT ACROSS AREA WITH MORE VFR CLDS. GRADIENT REMAINS FAIRLY STRONG OVERNITE...SO WINDS SHUD REMAIN IN 12 TO 15 KT RANGE. WNW WINDS BECOMING GUSTY AGAIN DURING THE DAY WED WITH GUSTS 20 TO 25 KTS BY AROUND 18Z. KMSP...SHUD SEE A PERIOD OF BKN040 BETWEEN 06Z-10Z AS CLOUDS SKIRT ACROSS CENTRAL MN. GUSTINESS HAS SLOWLY BEEN DIMINISHING LAST COUPLE OF HOURS AND THIS TREND WILL CONTINUE OVERNITE...SUSTAINED WINDS SHUD REMAIN IN THE 12-15 KT RANGE MOST OF NITE. GUSTS 20-25 KT RETURNING BY 18Z WED. && .MPX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... MN...NONE. WI...NONE. && $$ RAH/BAP
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS WILMINGTON NC
318 PM EST WED NOV 16 2011 .SYNOPSIS... A COLD FRONT OVER THE TENNESSEE VALLEY WILL SLIDE EASTWARD BRINGING SHOWERS AND A CHANCE OF THUNDERSTORMS...INCLUDING SEVERE WEATHER...TONIGHT THROUGH THURSDAY MORNING. MUCH COOLER AND DRIER AIR WILL FOLLOW LATE THURSDAY AND FRIDAY. HIGH PRESSURE WILL MOVE OVERHEAD WITH TEMPERATURES MODERATING DURING THE WEEKEND. A SECOND FRONT WILL DROP SOUTH THROUGH THE AREA TUESDAY. && .NEAR TERM /UNTIL 6 AM THURSDAY MORNING/... AS OF 300 PM WEDNESDAY...TROPICAL WARMTH AND HUMIDITY WILL COME TO A CRASHING HALT LATE TONIGHT AS A STRONG COLD FRONT ARRIVES FROM THE WEST. THE TRANSITION FROM A TROPICAL TO AN ARCTIC AIRMASS WILL NOT BE AN EASY ONE...AND SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS APPEAR POSSIBLE ACROSS THE EASTERN CAROLINAS TONIGHT. INSTABILITY PARAMETERS ARE IMPRESSIVE FOR A COOL-SEASON EVENT. ALTHOUGH SURFACE CAPE FALLS AWAY TO A FEW HUNDRED J/KG AFTER DARK WITH 75-100 J/KG OF INHIBITION TO OVERCOME...STARTING TO LIFT A PARCEL FROM AROUND 925 MB YIELDS 600-1500 J/KG OF UNINHIBITED CAPE AIDED BY REASONABLY STEEP MID AND UPPER LEVEL LAPSE RATES. UNLIKE OUR TYPICAL WINTERTIME "SEVERE SHOWER" SCENARIOS THERE COULD ACTUALLY BE DEEP (40+ KFT) CONVECTION TONIGHT. WIND SHEAR PARAMETERS ARE ALSO IMPRESSIVE: 50-60 KT OF 0-6 KM BULK SHEAR...200-300 M^2/S^2 0-3 KM HELICITY...AND 50 KT WIND SPEEDS WITHIN 2500 FEET OF THE GROUND ALL POINT TOWARD ORGANIZED STORMS...PERHAPS EVEN SUPERCELLS...WITH THE POTENTIAL FOR WIND DAMAGE AND TORNADOES. SYNOPTICALLY A 300 MB JET STREAK WILL MOVE EAST THROUGH THE MID-ATLANTIC STATES TONIGHT. THIS WILL PLACE THE EASTERN CAROLINAS WITHIN THE RIGHT-ENTRANCE REGION OF THE JET STREAK AIDING IN DEEP-LAYER LIFT. TIMING-WISE...THE LAST THREE RUNS (15-16-17Z) OF THE HRRR RAPID UPDATE MODEL ALL PLACE THE LEADING EDGE OF THE SQUALL LINE IN WESTERN DARLINGTON COUNTY AT 7 PM...MOVING INTO FLORENCE... DILLON AND LUMBERTON BY 8 PM...AND TO THE COAST BETWEEN 10 PM AND MIDNIGHT. OUR HIGHEST POPS (80-90%) EXTEND FROM FLORENCE...MARION AND MYRTLE BEACH NORTHWARD THROUGH SOUTHEASTERN NORTH CAROLINA. LOWER POPS (50-60%) ARE FORECAST SOUTH INTO THE GEORGETOWN AREA WHERE THIS FIRST BATCH OF CONVECTION MAY BE TOO FAR NORTH FOR IMPACTS. ADDITIONAL SHOWERS AND POSSIBLY THUNDERSTORMS MAY DEVELOP BEHIND THIS FIRST BATCH...ASSOCIATED WITH SUBTLE UPPER DISTURBANCES WORKING ON RESIDUAL ELEVATED INSTABILITY. THIS SECOND BATCH OF CONVECTIVE ACTIVITY COULD CONTINUE UP UNTIL THE TIME OF THE FRONTAL PASSAGE AROUND DAYBREAK THURSDAY. LOW TEMPERATURES TONIGHT WILL BE TRICKY WITH THE SURFACE COLD FRONT LIKELY ARRIVING AROUND 12Z. WE ARE FORECASTING MID 60S ON THE COAST AND 59-63 INLAND...HOWEVER THERE IS SIGNIFICANT BUST POTENTIAL IN EITHER DIRECTION IF THE FRONT IS ONLY A COUPLE HOURS FASTER OR SLOWER THAN IS CURRENTLY FORECAST. && .SHORT TERM /6 AM THURSDAY MORNING THROUGH FRIDAY NIGHT/... AS OF 300 PM WEDNESDAY...CONCERN DURING THE PERIOD REVOLVES AROUND COLD FRONTAL PASSAGE AND ASSOCIATED CONVECTION EARLY THURSDAY...FOLLOWED BY A DRASTIC DROP IN TEMPERATURES WHICH WILL MAKE IT FEEL ONCE AGAIN LIKE EARLY WINTER. STRONG COLD FRONT WILL BE JUST INSIDE WESTERN EDGE OF THE CWA THURSDAY MORNING AND RAPIDLY MOVING EAST. THE UNCERTAINTY WITH STRENGTH OF CONVECTION REVOLVES AROUND THE FACT THAT FROPA IS OCCURRING AT A NON-IDEAL TIME WITH RESPECT TO INSTABILITY. HOWEVER...PARAMETERS DO SUGGEST THAT CONVECTION WILL BE ONGOING AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PERIOD...ESPECIALLY ACROSS THE EASTERN ZONES. RIDGE OF LOW LEVEL THETA-E AIR REMAINS IN PLACE THROUGH THURSDAY MORNING ALONG WITH STEEP MID LEVEL LAPSE RATES AND PWATS NEAR 1.5 INCHES. ADDITIONALLY...SOME PVA NEAR A VORT LOBE TRAILING THROUGH THE EASTERN CAROLINAS...LOCALLY ENHANCED DIFFLUENCE IN THE RIGHT ENTRANCE REGION OF AN EXITING UPPER JET...AND THE COLD FRONT ITSELF WILL HELP FORCE SOME LIFT AND KEEP CONVECTION GOING THROUGH LATE MORNING. 12 HOUR SREF PRECIP PROBS DO NOT DROP BELOW 50 PERCENT UNTIL AFTER 03Z FRIDAY...SO ALTHOUGH THE SEVERE THREAT AFTER SUNRISE THURSDAY APPEARS LIMITED WILL KEEP TSTM MENTION THROUGH LATE MORNING ALONG THE COAST...WITH SOME LIGHT RAIN POSSIBLE UNTIL EARLY AFTN. FROPA OCCURS ACROSS THE ENTIRE CWA BY THE AFTN BRINGING AN END TO PRECIP THROUGH THE REMAINDER OF THE SHORT TERM. DRYING WILL OCCUR BEHIND FRONT AS HIGH PRESSURE BUILDS INTO THE REGION...BUT POST FRONTAL CLOUD COVER/STRATUS WILL EXIST THROUGH MUCH OF THURSDAY BEFORE CLEARING ON FRIDAY. THE HIGHEST TEMPS OF THE PERIOD WILL OCCUR THURSDAY MORNING ALONG AND AHEAD OF THE FRONT...DROPPING RAPIDLY IN THE AFTN AS STRONG CAA DEVELOPS. LARGE BUST POTENTIAL ON MAX TEMPS THURSDAY DEPENDING ON EXACT TIMING OF FROPA...BUT EXPECT TEMPS AROUND 60 INLAND...MID 60S AT THE COAST AT DAYBREAK THURSDAY...THEN FALLING THROUGH THE DAY. MEX/MAV IN AGREEMENT WITH MAX TEMPS FRIDAY IN THE MID 50S...BUT GUIDANCE HAS A TENDENCY TO OVER FORECAST HIGHS THE DAY AFTER A STRONG FROPA. WILL TREND MAXES DOWN TO THE LOW/MID 50S...BUT NOTE THIS MAY STILL BE TOO WARM. MINS EACH NIGHT WILL BE IN THE MID 30S AT THE COAST...AROUND 30 IN THE COLDER SPOTS. && .LONG TERM /SATURDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY/... AS OF 300 PM WEDNESDAY...WEAK RIDGING ALOFT WILL BECOME SUPPRESSED LATE IN THE PERIOD AS 5H FLOW BECOMES MORE ZONAL. MUCH OF THE PERIOD WILL BE DOMINATED BY ELONGATED SURFACE HIGH WITH A WEAK COASTAL TROF DEVELOPING SAT INTO SUN. COASTAL TROF LOOKS PRETTY WEAK SO DO NOT THINK PRECIP WILL NOT BE AN ISSUE. BACKDOOR COLD FRONT STALLED NORTH OF THE AREA MON WILL PUSH SOUTH ACROSS THE AREA TUE. NOT MUCH FORCING ALONG THE FRONT AS IT HEADS SOUTH. FROPA WILL BE MARKED BY AIR MASS CHANGE BUT VERY LITTLE IF ANY PRECIP. WEAK ISENTROPIC LIFT LATE IN THE PERIOD AS MID LEVEL RIDGE SHIFTS EAST WILL PROVIDE THE BEST CHANCE FOR PRECIP DURING THE PERIOD. HOWEVER...GIVEN THE UNCERTAINTY WITH RESPECT TO THE EVENT PLAN TO CARRY SILENT POP FOR NOW. TEMPERATURES WILL START OUT NEAR CLIMO SAT BUT END UP ABOVE CLIMO SAT NIGHT AND FOR THE REST OF THE PERIOD. HIGHS WILL RUN 5 TO 8 DEGREES ABOVE CLIMO WITH LOWS CLOSER TO 10 DEGREES ABOVE. && .AVIATION /20Z WEDNESDAY THROUGH MONDAY/... AS OF 17Z...A LARGE PORTION OF THE CWA HAS SCATTERED OUT...HOWEVER EXPECT AN MVFR CEILING TO RE-EMERGE AS CU SPREADS OUT INTO A CEILING DUE TO A PERSISTENT SUBSIDENCE INVERSION. GUSTY SOUTHWEST WINDS WILL CONTINUE THROUGH THE AFTERNOON HOURS. THIS EVENING...EXPECT IFR CEILINGS TO COME BACK...AS LOW LEVEL MOISTURE GETS TRAPPED. CONVECTION AHEAD OF A FRONTAL BOUNDARY WILL AFFECT THE WESTERN TERMINALS BEFORE MIDNIGHT...WITH THE PRE-FRONTAL TROUGH WITH MODERATE OMEGA REACHING THE COAST BY 07-08Z. LOOK FOR INTERMITTENT IFR VISIBILITIES IN THE HEAVY SHOWERS WITH SOME INCREASE IN WINDS. THE FIRST SET OF CONVECTION WILL MOVE OFFSHORE BEFORE DAYBREAK...MEANWHILE MORE CONVECTION ASSOCIATED WITH THE FRONT WILL MOVE THROUGH THE CWA DURING THE DAY...AGAIN WITH INTERMITTENT HEAVY RAIN WITH MODERATE FRONTAL LIFT. WINDS WILL SHIFT TO THE NORTH AND GUSTY BEHIND THE FRONT. MODELS INDICATE LOW CEILINGS WILL REMAIN BEHIND THE FRONT...BUT WOULD NOT BE SURPRISE TO SEE VFR CONDITIONS BY THE END OF THE FORECAST PERIOD. EXTENDED OUTLOOK...EXPECT VFR FRIDAY AND SATURDAY...WITH LOWERED CONFIDENCE FOR POTENTIAL IFR FOG/STRATUS SUNDAY AND MONDAY MORNINGS. && .MARINE... NEAR TERM /THROUGH TONIGHT/... AS OF 300 PM WEDNESDAY...TROPICAL MOISTURE MOVING ACROSS CHILLY NEARSHORE OCEAN WATERS HAS RESULTED IN AREAS OF DENSE SEA FOG TODAY. THIS SHOULD CONTINUE INTO THE EVENING HOURS WITH VISIBILITIES LESS THAN ONE MILE AT TIMES. THE WORST VISIBILITIES ARE EXPECTED ACROSS THE WATERS WITHIN 5-8 MILES OF SHORE WHERE WATER TEMPERATURES AND AIR TEMPERATURES ARE COOLEST. OTHERWISE...SOUTHWEST WINDS WILL RAMP UP OVERNIGHT IN ADVANCE OF A STRONG COLD FRONT MOVING EAST TOWARD THE CAROLINAS. LATEST HIGH- RESOLUTION MODELS SUGGEST THE FIRST BATCH OF SHOWERS AND STRONG THUNDERSTORMS COULD REACH THE COASTLINE AROUND 10 PM THIS EVENING... WITH ADDITIONAL SHOWERS AND STORMS POSSIBLE OVERNIGHT UP UNTIL THE ACTUAL SURFACE COLD FRONT ARRIVES AFTER DAYBREAK THURSDAY MORNING. SEAS SHOULD GRADUALLY BUILD TONIGHT WITH THE STRONGER SOUTHWEST WINDS ARRIVING AHEAD OF THE FRONT...REACHING AS HIGH AS 6-8 FT NEAR CAPE FEAR LATE TONIGHT. THE STRONGEST WINDS SHOULD REMAIN OUT BEYOND 20 MILES FROM SHORE WHERE WARMER AIR AND WATER TEMPERATURES WILL SUPPORT DEEPER MIXING...BRINGING THESE WINDS DOWN TO THE OCEAN SURFACE. SHORT TERM /THURSDAY THROUGH FRIDAY NIGHT/... AS OF 300 PM WEDNESDAY...PERIOD BEGINS WITH SOLID SCA CONDITIONS ACROSS THE COASTAL WATERS AS PINCHED GRADIENT EXISTS AHEAD OF A COLD FRONT. WINDS THURSDAY WILL QUICKLY VEER FROM SW IN THE MORNING TO NORTHERLY DURING THE AFTN BEHIND THE COLD FRONT. SPEEDS WILL INCREASE AS WELL...BECOMING SUSTAINED AT NEARLY 25 KTS UNTIL THURSDAY NIGHT...HELPING TO GENERATE SEAS OF 5-7 FT. CHALLENGE THEN BECOMES DETERMINING EXACTLY WHEN CONDITIONS WILL DROP BELOW SCA THRESHOLDS. ALTHOUGH GRADIENT WILL REMAIN PINCHED AS HIGH PRESSURE SLIDES TOWARDS THE AREA...EXPECT IT WILL SLACKEN ENOUGH TO DROP WINDS TO 15-20 KTS AND SEAS TO 4-5 FT BY FRIDAY MORNING...SO HAVE LEFT CURRENT SCA AS-IS. WINDS VEER TO THE NE FRIDAY NIGHT AND EASE FURTHER...REDUCING SEAS TO 2-4 FT BY THE END OF THE PERIOD. LONG TERM /SATURDAY THROUGH SUNDAY/... AS OF 300 PM WEDNESDAY...LIGHT NORTHEAST FLOW WILL BE QUICK TO VEER TO SOUTHEASTERLY AS WEAK COASTAL TROUGH DEVELOPS. REMAINS OF THE TROUGH PUSH INLAND SAT NIGHT INTO SUN AND HIGH PRESSURE RETURNS. WEAK GRADIENT WILL REMAIN IN PLACE THROUGH THE END OF THE PERIOD WITH SOUTH TO SOUTHWEST FLOW AROUND 10 KT. COLD FRONT MAY DROP IN FROM THE NORTH AT THE END OF THE PERIOD...THOUGH TIMING IS STILL IN QUESTION. SEAS WILL RUN 2 TO 4 FT SAT DROPPING TO 2 TO 3 FT SUN AND MON. && .ILM WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... SC...NONE. NC...NONE. MARINE...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY UNTIL MIDNIGHT EST THURSDAY NIGHT FOR AMZ250-252-254-256. && $$ SYNOPSIS...TRA/JDW NEAR TERM...TRA SHORT TERM...JDW LONG TERM...III AVIATION...DL MARINE...ALL
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION...CORRECTED
NWS WILMINGTON NC
1149 AM EST WED NOV 16 2011 .SYNOPSIS... A COLD FRONT OVER THE TENNESSEE VALLEY WILL SLIDE EASTWARD BRINGING SHOWERS AND A CHANCE OF THUNDERSTORMS...INCLUDING SEVERE WEATHER...TONIGHT INTO THROUGH THURSDAY MORNING. MUCH COOLER AND DRIER AIR WILL FOLLOW LATE THURSDAY AND FRIDAY. HIGH PRESSURE WILL MOVE OVERHEAD WITH TEMPERATURES MODERATING DURING THE WEEKEND. ANOTHER FRONT WILL SHIFT TOWARD THE AREA EARLY NEXT WEEK. && .NEAR TERM /THROUGH TONIGHT/... AS OF 1030 AM WEDNESDAY...WARM MOIST SOUTHWEST FLOW CONTINUES OVER THE CAROLINAS TODAY IN ADVANCE OF A STRONG COLD FRONT NOW LOCATED IN EASTERN TENNESSEE...NORTHERN ALABAMA...AND MISSISSIPPI. TODAY SHOULD BE THE WARMEST DAY OF THIS ENTIRE STRING OF MILD WEATHER DATING BACK TO SUNDAY...WITH THIS AFTERNOON`S HIGHS REACHING THE LOWER 80S INLAND AWAY FROM MARINE INFLUENCES. 850 MB TEMPS IN THE +15C TO +16C RANGE WOULD BE MORE AT HOME IN JUNE THAN IN NOVEMBER...AND WILL SUPPORT THESE VERY MILD READINGS. RECORD HIGHS FOR TODAY ARE IN THE MID TO UPPER 80S AND SHOULD REMAIN UNTOUCHED. DEWPOINTS IN THE UPPER 60S PLUS A LONG WIND FETCH ACROSS THE COLD NEARSHORE COASTAL WATERS IS PRODUCING AREAS OF FOG AND VERY LOW STRATUS CLOUDS OVER THE OCEAN AND SOME OF THE BEACHES. VISIBILITIES IN THE 0.25 TO 1 MILE RANGE ARE COMMON ON THE BEACHES AND OUT OVER THE COASTAL WATERS. AS LONG AS THE SUN IS SHINING TODAY THIS FOG SHOULD HAVE LITTLE SUCCESS MAKING IT MORE THAN 1 MILE INLAND OR SO...BUT ANY REMAINING FOG THIS EVENING COULD PUSH FARTHER INLAND. FIRST WE HAVE TRIMMED BACK POPS TODAY WITH ALL SHORT-TERM GUIDANCE SUGGESTING WE WILL SEE LITTLE IF ANY SHOWER ACTIVITY OVER OUR FORECAST AREA BEFORE DARK. WE DID LEAVE A SMALL 20 POP WEST OF I-95 LATE THIS AFTERNOON WHERE ONE OF THE PREVIOUS THREE HRRR RUNS SHOWS SOME SHOWERS POSSIBLE. THERE IS INSTABILITY (CAPE AROUND 1000 J/KG) FORECAST TO DEVELOP THIS AFTERNOON BUT TRIGGERS FOR CONVECTION ARE LARGELY ABSENT. THE BIG STORY IS THE POTENTIAL FOR SEVERE WEATHER AHEAD OF THE FRONT TONIGHT. ALTHOUGH SURFACE-BASED CAPE/INSTABILITY IS NOT IMPRESSIVE AFTER SUNSET THERE IS RATHER LARGE ELEVATED CAPE WHEN PARCELS AT 950/925 MB ARE CONSIDERED. RATHER STEEP LAPSE RATES THROUGH ALL THE MID AND UPPER LEVELS OF THE ATMOSPHERE WILL BE SUPPORTIVE OF DEEP CONVECTION. SYNOPTIC FACTORS SUPPORTIVE OF LIFT INCLUDE A FAVORABLY-POSITIONED JET STREAK MOVING THROUGH THE MID-ATLANTIC REGION TONIGHT PLACING THE CAROLINAS SQUARELY IN THE FAVORED RIGHT-ENTRANCE REGION...STRONG AND SLIGHTLY BACKED LOW LEVEL WINDS RELATIVE TO THE MID AND UPPER LEVEL FLOW PRODUCING 0-6 KM BULK SHEAR VALUES ON THE ORDER OF 50-70 KT...AND SEVERAL 500 MB VORTICITY CENTERS PASSING OVER OR JUST NORTH OF OUR FORECAST AREA. THE LATEST SPC CONVECTIVE OUTLOOK INCREASED SEVERE WEATHER PROBABILITIES FOR WIND AND TORNADOES...AND WE WOULD NOT BE AT ALL SURPRISED TO SEE TORNADO WATCHES FOR PORTIONS OF OUR FORECAST AREA THIS EVENING AND OVERNIGHT. && .SHORT TERM /THURSDAY THROUGH FRIDAY NIGHT/... AS OF 3 AM WEDNESDAY...FORECAST MODELS HAVE SLOWED DOWN THE PROGRESSION OF THE COLD FRONT EVER SO SLIGHTLY AND HAVE THEREFORE EXTENDED POPS ACROSS THE BOARD INTO THE LATE MORNING HOURS...ESPECIALLY COASTAL AREAS. OTHERWISE INTERESTING TEMPERATURE FORECAST FOR THURSDAY HIGHS AS THE MAV NUMBERS SHOW NO WARMING IN WILMINGTON WITH LITTLE ELSEWHERE. WITH THE DOWNSLOPE FLOW AND COLD AIR ADVECTION NOT THAT IMPRESSIVE...DID ADD A DEGREE OR TWO TO THE MAV NUMBERS. FOR FRIDAY MORNING WINDS DECOUPLE INLAND WHILE REMAINING UP SLIGHTLY ALONG THE COAST AND ADJUSTED MOS NUMBERS ACCORDINGLY. COOL DAY FRIDAY WITH MOST AREAS REMAINING BELOW 60. && .LONG TERM /SATURDAY THROUGH TUESDAY/... AS OF 3 AM WEDNESDAY...EXTENDED FORECAST IS RATHER UNEVENTFUL AS THE PATTERN QUICKLY EVOLVES FROM ZONAL TO RIDGING ACROSS THE SOUTHEAST...SIMILAR TO THE PATTERN WE HAVE EXPERIENCED THE PAST FEW DAYS. HPC IS FAVORING A BLEND OF THE GFS/ECMWF AND UKMET. REALLY THE ONLY FORECAST CHALLENGES INVOLVE LIGHT COASTAL TROUGH QPF SATURDAY AND A BACKDOOR FRONT TUESDAY. AS FOR THE FORMER...MAINTAINED A DRY FORECAST AS THE MODELS ARE USUALLY OVERDONE WITH THE QPF AND IN REALITY IT IS GENERALLY A STRATUS LAYER. REGARDING THE FRONT...THE LATEST GFS IS MORE BULLISH IN PUSHING THE FRONT SOUTH WITH THE EFFECTS ONLY BEING AN AIRMASS CHANGE. THE 0000 UTC ECMWF HAS BACKED OFF A FURTHER SOUTH SOLUTION. OTHERWISE...AS WE JUST EXPERIENCED...ABOVE NORMAL TO DOWN RIGHT BALMY CONDITIONS FOR LATE IN THE WEEKEND AND EARLY NEXT WEEK. && .AVIATION /17Z WEDNESDAY THROUGH MONDAY/... AS OF 17Z...A LARGE PORTION OF THE CWA HAS SCATTERED OUT...HOWEVER EXPECT AN MVFR CEILING TO RE-EMERGE AS CU SPREADS OUT INTO A CEILING DUE TO A PERSISTENT SUBSIDENCE INVERSION. GUSTY SOUTHWEST WINDS WILL CONTINUE THROUGH THE AFTERNOON HOURS. THIS EVENING...EXPECT IFR CEILINGS TO COME BACK...AS LOW LEVEL MOISTURE GETS TRAPPED. CONVECTION AHEAD OF A FRONTAL BOUNDARY WILL AFFECT THE WESTERN TERMINALS BEFORE MIDNIGHT...WITH THE PRE-FRONTAL TROUGH WITH MODERATE OMEGA REACHING THE COAST BY 07-08Z. LOOK FOR INTERMITTENT IFR VISIBILITIES IN THE HEAVY SHOWERS WITH SOME INCREASE IN WINDS. THE FIRST SET OF CONVECTION WILL MOVE OFFSHORE BEFORE DAYBREAK...MEANWHILE MORE CONVECTION ASSOCIATED WITH THE FRONT WILL MOVE THROUGH THE CWA DURING THE DAY...AGAIN WITH INTERMITTENT HEAVY RAIN WITH MODERATE FRONTAL LIFT. WINDS WILL SHIFT TO THE NORTH AND GUSTY BEHIND THE FRONT. MODELS INDICATE LOW CEILINGS WILL REMAIN BEHIND THE FRONT...BUT WOULD NOT BE SURPRISE TO SEE VFR CONDITIONS BY THE END OF THE FORECAST PERIOD. EXTENDED OUTLOOK...EXPECT VFR FRIDAY AND SATURDAY...WITH LOWERED CONFIDENCE FOR POTENTIAL IFR FOG/STRATUS SUNDAY AND MONDAY MORNINGS. && .MARINE... NEAR TERM /THROUGH TONIGHT/... AS OF 1030 AM WEDNESDAY...SATELLITE IMAGERY...SURF CAMS...AND OBSERVATIONS FROM NORTH MYRTLE BEACH AND SOUTHPORT CONTINUE TO INDICATE EXPANSIVE AREAS OF DENSE SEA FOG THIS MORNING. WE WILL LIKELY HAVE TO EXTEND THE TIME OF THE DENSE FOG ADVISORY LATER THIS MORNING AS THE MOIST SOUTHWESTERLY FLOW IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE THROUGH TODAY AND INTO THIS EVENING. THERE IS QUITE A THERMAL GRADIENT ACROSS THE AREA WITH THE FRYING PAN SHOALS BUOY REPORTING AN AIR TEMP OF 75...WHILE 66-67 DEGREE TEMPS ARE BEING REPORTED ON THE BEACHES NEAR CAPE FEAR. SOUTHWESTERLY WINDS AROUND 15 KT WILL INCREASE FURTHER TONIGHT AS THE GRADIENT TIGHTENS AHEAD OF THE INCOMING STRONG COLD FRONT. SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS WILL ALSO INCREASE IN COVERAGE TONIGHT. THE SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY REMAINS IN PLACE FOR THE ROUGHER CONDITIONS NEAR AND AHEAD OF THE FRONT. SHORT TERM /THURSDAY THROUGH FRIDAY NIGHT/... AS OF 3 AM WEDNESDAY...MAIN FORECAST CHALLENGE WILL BE WHEN TO CONCLUDE THE SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY LATE THURSDAY EVENING. A PERIOD OF STRONG NORTHERLY WINDS WILL FOLLOW THE FRONT THURSDAY INTO THURSDAY EVENING. FOR NOW WITH THE TIMING STILL OUT FOUR PERIODS...WILL NOT TWEAK BUT ISSUE THE DISCLAIMER THE HEADLINE MAY HAVE TO BE EXTENDED A FEW HOURS. WINDS VEER TO NORTHEASTERLY FRIDAY AND DIMINISH SOMEWHAT TO A MANAGEABLE RANGE OF 15-20 KNOTS MAINLY TO THE LOWER END. HIGH SEAS EARLY GET CONFINED TO THE OUTER WATERS WITH THE WIND SHIFT AND REMAIN THERE FOR THE MOST PART. SOME FIVE TO SIX FOOTERS MAY LINGER ACROSS THE OUTER WATERS GIVING THE FRIDAY. LONG TERM /SATURDAY THROUGH SUNDAY/... AS OF 3 AM WEDNESDAY...NORTHEAST FLOW INITIALLY WILL QUICKLY VEER TO SOUTHEAST AS HIGH PRESSURE WEAKENS AND LEAVES THE WIND FIELD TO BE FORCED BY LOCAL EFFECTS IE...THE SEABREEZE. THIS WILL OCCUR LATE SATURDAY AND SUNDAY AS WINDS DROP TO BELOW 10 KNOTS. SEAS FOLLOW A SIMILAR TREND WITH 2-4 FEET INITIALLY DROPPING TO 2-3 FEET. && .ILM WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... SC...NONE. NC...NONE. MARINE...DENSE FOG ADVISORY UNTIL 10 PM TONIGHT FOR AMZ250-252 DENSE FOG ADVISORY UNTIL 5 PM EST TODAY FOR AMZ254-256. SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY FROM NOON TODAY TO MIDNIGHT EST THURSDAY NIGHT FOR AMZ250-252-254-256. && $$ NEAR TERM...TRA SHORT TERM...SHK LONG TERM...SHK AVIATION...43
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS WILMINGTON NC
1135 AM EST WED NOV 16 2011 .SYNOPSIS... A COLD FRONT OVER THE TENNESSEE VALLEY WILL SLIDE EASTWARD BRINGING SHOWERS AND A CHANCE OF THUNDERSTORMS...INCLUDING SEVERE WEATHER...TONIGHT INTO THROUGH THURSDAY MORNING. MUCH COOLER AND DRIER AIR WILL FOLLOW LATE THURSDAY AND FRIDAY. HIGH PRESSURE WILL MOVE OVERHEAD WITH TEMPERATURES MODERATING DURING THE WEEKEND. ANOTHER FRONT WILL SHIFT TOWARD THE AREA EARLY NEXT WEEK. && .NEAR TERM /THROUGH TONIGHT/... AS OF 1030 AM WEDNESDAY...WARM MOIST SOUTHWEST FLOW CONTINUES OVER THE CAROLINAS TODAY IN ADVANCE OF A STRONG COLD FRONT NOW LOCATED IN EASTERN TENNESSEE...NORTHERN ALABAMA...AND MISSISSIPPI. TODAY SHOULD BE THE WARMEST DAY OF THIS ENTIRE STRING OF MILD WEATHER DATING BACK TO SUNDAY...WITH THIS AFTERNOON`S HIGHS REACHING THE LOWER 80S INLAND AWAY FROM MARINE INFLUENCES. 850 MB TEMPS IN THE +15C TO +16C RANGE WOULD BE MORE AT HOME IN JUNE THAN IN NOVEMBER...AND WILL SUPPORT THESE VERY MILD READINGS. RECORD HIGHS FOR TODAY ARE IN THE MID TO UPPER 80S ARE SHOULD REMAIN UNTOUCHED. DEWPOINTS IN THE UPPER 60S PLUS A LONG WIND FETCH ACROSS THE COLD NEARSHORE COASTAL WATERS IS PRODUCING AREAS OF FOG AND VERY LOW STRATUS CLOUDS OVER THE OCEAN AND SOME OF THE BEACHES. VISIBILITIES IN THE 0.25 TO 1 MILE RANGE ARE COMMON ON THE BEACHES AND OUT OVER THE COASTAL WATERS. AS LONG AS THE SUN IS SHINING TODAY THIS FOG SHOULD HAVE LITTLE SUCCESS MAKING IT MORE THAN 1 MILE INLAND OR SO...BUT ANY REMAINING FOG THIS EVENING COULD PUSH FARTHER INLAND. FIRST WE HAVE TRIMMED BACK POPS TODAY WITH ALL SHORT-TERM GUIDANCE SUGGESTING WE WILL SEE LITTLE IF ANY SHOWER ACTIVITY OVER OUR FORECAST AREA BEFORE DARK. WE DID LEAVE A SMALL 20 POP WEST OF I-95 LATE THIS AFTERNOON WHERE ONE OF THE PREVIOUS THREE HRRR RUNS SHOWS SOME SHOWERS POSSIBLE. THERE IS INSTABILITY (CAPE AROUND 1000 J/KG) FORECAST TO DEVELOP THIS AFTERNOON BUT TRIGGERS FOR CONVECTION ARE LARGELY ABSENT. THE BIG STORY IS THE POTENTIAL FOR SEVERE WEATHER AHEAD OF THE FRONT TONIGHT. ALTHOUGH SURFACE-BASED CAPE/INSTABILITY IS NOT IMPRESSIVE AFTER SUNSET THERE IS RATHER LARGE ELEVATED CAPE WHEN PARCELS AT 950/925 MB ARE CONSIDERED. RATHER STEEP LAPSE RATES THROUGH ALL THE MID AND UPPER LEVELS OF THE ATMOSPHERE WILL BE SUPPORTIVE OF DEEP CONVECTION. SYNOPTIC FACTORS SUPPORTIVE OF LIFT INCLUDE A FAVORABLY-POSITIONED JET STREAK MOVING THROUGH THE MID-ATLANTIC REGION TONIGHT PLACING THE CAROLINAS SQUARELY IN THE FAVORED RIGHT-ENTRANCE REGION...STRONG AND SLIGHTLY BACKED LOW LEVEL WINDS RELATIVE TO THE MID AND UPPER LEVEL FLOW PRODUCING 0-6 KM BULK SHEAR VALUES ON THE ORDER OF 50-70 KT...AND SEVERAL 500 MB VORTICITY CENTERS PASSING OVER OR JUST NORTH OF OUR FORECAST AREA. THE LATEST SPC CONVECTIVE OUTLOOK INCREASED SEVERE WEATHER PROBABILITIES FOR WIND AND TORNADOES...AND WE WOULD NOT BE AT ALL SURPRISED TO SEE TORNADO WATCHES FOR PORTIONS OF OUR FORECAST AREA THIS EVENING AND OVERNIGHT. && .SHORT TERM /THURSDAY THROUGH FRIDAY NIGHT/... AS OF 3 AM WEDNESDAY...FORECAST MODELS HAVE SLOWED DOWN THE PROGRESSION OF THE COLD FRONT EVER SO SLIGHTLY AND HAVE THEREFORE EXTENDED POPS ACROSS THE BOARD INTO THE LATE MORNING HOURS...ESPECIALLY COASTAL AREAS. OTHERWISE INTERESTING TEMPERATURE FORECAST FOR THURSDAY HIGHS AS THE MAV NUMBERS SHOW NO WARMING IN WILMINGTON WITH LITTLE ELSEWHERE. WITH THE DOWNSLOPE FLOW AND COLD AIR ADVECTION NOT THAT IMPRESSIVE...DID ADD A DEGREE OR TWO TO THE MAV NUMBERS. FOR FRIDAY MORNING WINDS DECOUPLE INLAND WHILE REMAINING UP SLIGHTLY ALONG THE COAST AND ADJUSTED MOS NUMBERS ACCORDINGLY. COOL DAY FRIDAY WITH MOST AREAS REMAINING BELOW 60. && .LONG TERM /SATURDAY THROUGH TUESDAY/... AS OF 3 AM WEDNESDAY...EXTENDED FORECAST IS RATHER UNEVENTFUL AS THE PATTERN QUICKLY EVOLVES FROM ZONAL TO RIDGING ACROSS THE SOUTHEAST...SIMILAR TO THE PATTERN WE HAVE EXPERIENCED THE PAST FEW DAYS. HPC IS FAVORING A BLEND OF THE GFS/ECMWF AND UKMET. REALLY THE ONLY FORECAST CHALLENGES INVOLVE LIGHT COASTAL TROUGH QPF SATURDAY AND A BACKDOOR FRONT TUESDAY. AS FOR THE FORMER...MAINTAINED A DRY FORECAST AS THE MODELS ARE USUALLY OVERDONE WITH THE QPF AND IN REALITY IT IS GENERALLY A STRATUS LAYER. REGARDING THE FRONT...THE LATEST GFS IS MORE BULLISH IN PUSHING THE FRONT SOUTH WITH THE EFFECTS ONLY BEING AN AIRMASS CHANGE. THE 0000 UTC ECMWF HAS BACKED OFF A FURTHER SOUTH SOLUTION. OTHERWISE...AS WE JUST EXPERIENCED...ABOVE NORMAL TO DOWN RIGHT BALMY CONDITIONS FOR LATE IN THE WEEKEND AND EARLY NEXT WEEK. && .AVIATION /17Z WEDNESDAY THROUGH MONDAY/... AS OF 17Z...A LARGE PORTION OF THE CWA HAS SCATTERED OUT...HOWEVER EXPECT AN MVFR CEILING TO RE-EMERGE AS CU SPREADS OUT INTO A CEILING DUE TO A PERSISTENT SUBSIDENCE INVERSION. GUSTY SOUTHWEST WINDS WILL CONTINUE THROUGH THE AFTERNOON HOURS. THIS EVENING...EXPECT IFR CEILINGS TO COME BACK...AS LOW LEVEL MOISTURE GETS TRAPPED. CONVECTION AHEAD OF A FRONTAL BOUNDARY WILL AFFECT THE WESTERN TERMINALS BEFORE MIDNIGHT...WITH THE PRE-FRONTAL TROUGH WITH MODERATE OMEGA REACHING THE COAST BY 07-08Z. LOOK FOR INTERMITTENT IFR VISIBILITIES IN THE HEAVY SHOWERS WITH SOME INCREASE IN WINDS. THE FIRST SET OF CONVECTION WILL MOVE OFFSHORE BEFORE DAYBREAK...MEANWHILE MORE CONVECTION ASSOCIATED WITH THE FRONT WILL MOVE THROUGH THE CWA DURING THE DAY...AGAIN WITH INTERMITTENT HEAVY RAIN WITH MODERATE FRONTAL LIFT. WINDS WILL SHIFT TO THE NORTH AND GUSTY BEHIND THE FRONT. MODELS INDICATE LOW CEILINGS WILL REMAIN BEHIND THE FRONT...BUT WOULD NOT BE SURPRISE TO SEE VFR CONDITIONS BY THE END OF THE FORECAST PERIOD. EXTENDED OUTLOOK...EXPECT VFR FRIDAY AND SATURDAY...WITH LOWERED CONFIDENCE FOR POTENTIAL IFR FOG/STRATUS SUNDAY AND MONDAY MORNINGS. && .MARINE... NEAR TERM /THROUGH TONIGHT/... AS OF 1030 AM WEDNESDAY...SATELLITE IMAGERY...SURF CAMS...AND OBSERVATIONS FROM NORTH MYRTLE BEACH AND SOUTHPORT CONTINUE TO INDICATE EXPANSIVE AREAS OF DENSE SEA FOG THIS MORNING. WE WILL LIKELY HAVE TO EXTEND THE TIME OF THE DENSE FOG ADVISORY LATER THIS MORNING AS THE MOIST SOUTHWESTERLY FLOW IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE THROUGH TODAY AND INTO THIS EVENING. THERE IS QUITE A THERMAL GRADIENT ACROSS THE AREA WITH THE FRYING PAN SHOALS BUOY REPORTING AN AIR TEMP OF 75...WHILE 66-67 DEGREE TEMPS ARE BEING REPORTED ON THE BEACHES NEAR CAPE FEAR. SOUTHWESTERLY WINDS AROUND 15 KT WILL INCREASE FURTHER TONIGHT AS THE GRADIENT TIGHTENS AHEAD OF THE INCOMING STRONG COLD FRONT. SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS WILL ALSO INCREASE IN COVERAGE TONIGHT. THE SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY REMAINS IN PLACE FOR THE ROUGHER CONDITIONS NEAR AND AHEAD OF THE FRONT. SHORT TERM /THURSDAY THROUGH FRIDAY NIGHT/... AS OF 3 AM WEDNESDAY...MAIN FORECAST CHALLENGE WILL BE WHEN TO CONCLUDE THE SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY LATE THURSDAY EVENING. A PERIOD OF STRONG NORTHERLY WINDS WILL FOLLOW THE FRONT THURSDAY INTO THURSDAY EVENING. FOR NOW WITH THE TIMING STILL OUT FOUR PERIODS...WILL NOT TWEAK BUT ISSUE THE DISCLAIMER THE HEADLINE MAY HAVE TO BE EXTENDED A FEW HOURS. WINDS VEER TO NORTHEASTERLY FRIDAY AND DIMINISH SOMEWHAT TO A MANAGEABLE RANGE OF 15-20 KNOTS MAINLY TO THE LOWER END. HIGH SEAS EARLY GET CONFINED TO THE OUTER WATERS WITH THE WIND SHIFT AND REMAIN THERE FOR THE MOST PART. SOME FIVE TO SIX FOOTERS MAY LINGER ACROSS THE OUTER WATERS GIVING THE FRIDAY. LONG TERM /SATURDAY THROUGH SUNDAY/... AS OF 3 AM WEDNESDAY...NORTHEAST FLOW INITIALLY WILL QUICKLY VEER TO SOUTHEAST AS HIGH PRESSURE WEAKENS AND LEAVES THE WIND FIELD TO BE FORCED BY LOCAL EFFECTS IE...THE SEABREEZE. THIS WILL OCCUR LATE SATURDAY AND SUNDAY AS WINDS DROP TO BELOW 10 KNOTS. SEAS FOLLOW A SIMILAR TREND WITH 2-4 FEET INITIALLY DROPPING TO 2-3 FEET. && .ILM WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... SC...NONE. NC...NONE. MARINE...DENSE FOG ADVISORY UNTIL NOON EST TODAY FOR AMZ250-252- 254-256. SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY FROM NOON TODAY TO MIDNIGHT EST THURSDAY NIGHT FOR AMZ250-252-254-256. && $$ NEAR TERM...TRA SHORT TERM...SHK LONG TERM...SHK AVIATION...43
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION...CORRECTED
NWS WILMINGTON NC
1126 AM EST WED NOV 16 2011 .SYNOPSIS... A COLD FRONT OVER THE TENNESSEE VALLEY WILL SLIDE EASTWARD BRINGING SHOWERS AND A CHANCE OF THUNDERSTORMS...INCLUDING SEVERE WEATHER...TONIGHT INTO THROUGH THURSDAY MORNING. MUCH COOLER AND DRIER AIR WILL FOLLOW LATE THURSDAY AND FRIDAY. HIGH PRESSURE WILL MOVE OVERHEAD WITH TEMPERATURES MODERATING DURING THE WEEKEND. ANOTHER FRONT WILL SHIFT TOWARD THE AREA EARLY NEXT WEEK. && .NEAR TERM /THROUGH TONIGHT/... AS OF 1030 AM WEDNESDAY...WARM MOIST SOUTHWEST FLOW CONTINUES OVER THE CAROLINAS TODAY IN ADVANCE OF A STRONG COLD FRONT NOW LOCATED IN EASTERN TENNESSEE...NORTHERN ALABAMA...AND MISSISSIPPI. TODAY SHOULD BE THE WARMEST DAY OF THIS ENTIRE STRING OF MILD WEATHER DATING BACK TO SUNDAY...WITH THIS AFTERNOON`S HIGHS REACHING THE LOWER 80S INLAND AWAY FROM MARINE INFLUENCES. 850 MB TEMPS IN THE +15C TO +16C RANGE WOULD BE MORE AT HOME IN JUNE THAN IN NOVEMBER...AND WILL SUPPORT THESE VERY MILD READINGS. RECORD HIGHS FOR TODAY ARE IN THE MID TO UPPER 80S AND SHOULD REMAIN UNTOUCHED. DEWPOINTS IN THE UPPER 60S PLUS A LONG WIND FETCH ACROSS THE COLD NEARSHORE COASTAL WATERS IS PRODUCING AREAS OF FOG AND VERY LOW STRATUS CLOUDS OVER THE OCEAN AND SOME OF THE BEACHES. VISIBILITIES IN THE 0.25 TO 1 MILE RANGE ARE COMMON ON THE BEACHES AND OUT OVER THE COASTAL WATERS. AS LONG AS THE SUN IS SHINING TODAY THIS FOG SHOULD HAVE LITTLE SUCCESS MAKING IT MORE THAN 1 MILE INLAND OR SO...BUT ANY REMAINING FOG THIS EVENING COULD PUSH FARTHER INLAND. FIRST WE HAVE TRIMMED BACK POPS TODAY WITH ALL SHORT-TERM GUIDANCE SUGGESTING WE WILL SEE LITTLE IF ANY SHOWER ACTIVITY OVER OUR FORECAST AREA BEFORE DARK. WE DID LEAVE A SMALL 20 POP WEST OF I-95 LATE THIS AFTERNOON WHERE ONE OF THE PREVIOUS THREE HRRR RUNS SHOWS SOME SHOWERS POSSIBLE. THERE IS INSTABILITY (CAPE AROUND 1000 J/KG) FORECAST TO DEVELOP THIS AFTERNOON BUT TRIGGERS FOR CONVECTION ARE LARGELY ABSENT. THE BIG STORY IS THE POTENTIAL FOR SEVERE WEATHER AHEAD OF THE FRONT TONIGHT. ALTHOUGH SURFACE-BASED CAPE/INSTABILITY IS NOT IMPRESSIVE AFTER SUNSET THERE IS RATHER LARGE ELEVATED CAPE WHEN PARCELS AT 950/925 MB ARE CONSIDERED. RATHER STEEP LAPSE RATES THROUGH ALL THE MID AND UPPER LEVELS OF THE ATMOSPHERE WILL BE SUPPORTIVE OF DEEP CONVECTION. SYNOPTIC FACTORS SUPPORTIVE OF LIFT INCLUDE A FAVORABLY-POSITIONED JET STREAK MOVING THROUGH THE MID-ATLANTIC REGION TONIGHT PLACING THE CAROLINAS SQUARELY IN THE FAVORED RIGHT-ENTRANCE REGION...STRONG AND SLIGHTLY BACKED LOW LEVEL WINDS RELATIVE TO THE MID AND UPPER LEVEL FLOW PRODUCING 0-6 KM BULK SHEAR VALUES ON THE ORDER OF 50-70 KT...AND SEVERAL 500 MB VORTICITY CENTERS PASSING OVER OR JUST NORTH OF OUR FORECAST AREA. THE LATEST SPC CONVECTIVE OUTLOOK INCREASED SEVERE WEATHER PROBABILITIES FOR WIND AND TORNADOES...AND WE WOULD NOT BE AT ALL SURPRISED TO SEE TORNADO WATCHES FOR PORTIONS OF OUR FORECAST AREA THIS EVENING AND OVERNIGHT. && .SHORT TERM /THURSDAY THROUGH FRIDAY NIGHT/... AS OF 3 AM WEDNESDAY...FORECAST MODELS HAVE SLOWED DOWN THE PROGRESSION OF THE COLD FRONT EVER SO SLIGHTLY AND HAVE THEREFORE EXTENDED POPS ACROSS THE BOARD INTO THE LATE MORNING HOURS...ESPECIALLY COASTAL AREAS. OTHERWISE INTERESTING TEMPERATURE FORECAST FOR THURSDAY HIGHS AS THE MAV NUMBERS SHOW NO WARMING IN WILMINGTON WITH LITTLE ELSEWHERE. WITH THE DOWNSLOPE FLOW AND COLD AIR ADVECTION NOT THAT IMPRESSIVE...DID ADD A DEGREE OR TWO TO THE MAV NUMBERS. FOR FRIDAY MORNING WINDS DECOUPLE INLAND WHILE REMAINING UP SLIGHTLY ALONG THE COAST AND ADJUSTED MOS NUMBERS ACCORDINGLY. COOL DAY FRIDAY WITH MOST AREAS REMAINING BELOW 60. && .LONG TERM /SATURDAY THROUGH TUESDAY/... AS OF 3 AM WEDNESDAY...EXTENDED FORECAST IS RATHER UNEVENTFUL AS THE PATTERN QUICKLY EVOLVES FROM ZONAL TO RIDGING ACROSS THE SOUTHEAST...SIMILAR TO THE PATTERN WE HAVE EXPERIENCED THE PAST FEW DAYS. HPC IS FAVORING A BLEND OF THE GFS/ECMWF AND UKMET. REALLY THE ONLY FORECAST CHALLENGES INVOLVE LIGHT COASTAL TROUGH QPF SATURDAY AND A BACKDOOR FRONT TUESDAY. AS FOR THE FORMER...MAINTAINED A DRY FORECAST AS THE MODELS ARE USUALLY OVERDONE WITH THE QPF AND IN REALITY IT IS GENERALLY A STRATUS LAYER. REGARDING THE FRONT...THE LATEST GFS IS MORE BULLISH IN PUSHING THE FRONT SOUTH WITH THE EFFECTS ONLY BEING AN AIRMASS CHANGE. THE 0000 UTC ECMWF HAS BACKED OFF A FURTHER SOUTH SOLUTION. OTHERWISE...AS WE JUST EXPERIENCED...ABOVE NORMAL TO DOWN RIGHT BALMY CONDITIONS FOR LATE IN THE WEEKEND AND EARLY NEXT WEEK. && .AVIATION /12Z WEDNESDAY THROUGH SUNDAY/... AS OF 12Z...SATELLITE AND OBSERVATIONS SHOW IFR/LIFR CONDITIONS ENTRENCHED OVER MUCH OF THE CWA...A MIXTURE OF STRATUS AND ADVECTION SEA FOG. EXPECT IFR CONDITIONS TO CONTINUE THROUGH THE MORNING HOURS...LIFTING OR SCATTERING AROUND 16Z...AS SOUTHWEST FLOW INCREASES AHEAD OF A COLD FRONT. EXPECT MVFR/NEAR VFR CONDITIONS FOR THE AFTERNOON HOURS...ONLY TO LOWER TO IFR SHORTLY AFTER 00Z. TONIGHT...DEEP MOISTURE ASSOCIATED WITH THE COLD FRONT WILL CROSS THE CWA...REACHING THE COAST BY 09Z. SHOWERS WILL BE SCATTERED TO NUMEROUS ALONG AND AHEAD OF THE FRONT. LOW PRESSURE ALONG THE COLD FRONT MAY ACTUALLY HAVE A DRY SLOT WITH IT...BUT CONFIDENCE IS LOW. EXTENDED OUTLOOK...SHOWERS LINGERING THURSDAY MORNING WILL LIFT OUT BY LATE MORNING WITH CONDITIONS IMPROVING TO VFR. EXPECT VFR FRIDAY AND SATURDAY...WITH LOWERED CONFIDENCE FOR POTENTIAL IFR FOG/STRATUS SUNDAY MORNING. && .MARINE... NEAR TERM /THROUGH TONIGHT/... AS OF 1030 AM WEDNESDAY...SATELLITE IMAGERY...SURF CAMS...AND OBSERVATIONS FROM NORTH MYRTLE BEACH AND SOUTHPORT CONTINUE TO INDICATE EXPANSIVE AREAS OF DENSE SEA FOG THIS MORNING. WE WILL LIKELY HAVE TO EXTEND THE TIME OF THE DENSE FOG ADVISORY LATER THIS MORNING AS THE MOIST SOUTHWESTERLY FLOW IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE THROUGH TODAY AND INTO THIS EVENING. THERE IS QUITE A THERMAL GRADIENT ACROSS THE AREA WITH THE FRYING PAN SHOALS BUOY REPORTING AN AIR TEMP OF 75...WHILE 66-67 DEGREE TEMPS ARE BEING REPORTED ON THE BEACHES NEAR CAPE FEAR. SOUTHWESTERLY WINDS AROUND 15 KT WILL INCREASE FURTHER TONIGHT AS THE GRADIENT TIGHTENS AHEAD OF THE INCOMING STRONG COLD FRONT. SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS WILL ALSO INCREASE IN COVERAGE TONIGHT. THE SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY REMAINS IN PLACE FOR THE ROUGHER CONDITIONS NEAR AND AHEAD OF THE FRONT. SHORT TERM /THURSDAY THROUGH FRIDAY NIGHT/... AS OF 3 AM WEDNESDAY...MAIN FORECAST CHALLENGE WILL BE WHEN TO CONCLUDE THE SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY LATE THURSDAY EVENING. A PERIOD OF STRONG NORTHERLY WINDS WILL FOLLOW THE FRONT THURSDAY INTO THURSDAY EVENING. FOR NOW WITH THE TIMING STILL OUT FOUR PERIODS...WILL NOT TWEAK BUT ISSUE THE DISCLAIMER THE HEADLINE MAY HAVE TO BE EXTENDED A FEW HOURS. WINDS VEER TO NORTHEASTERLY FRIDAY AND DIMINISH SOMEWHAT TO A MANAGEABLE RANGE OF 15-20 KNOTS MAINLY TO THE LOWER END. HIGH SEAS EARLY GET CONFINED TO THE OUTER WATERS WITH THE WIND SHIFT AND REMAIN THERE FOR THE MOST PART. SOME FIVE TO SIX FOOTERS MAY LINGER ACROSS THE OUTER WATERS GIVING THE FRIDAY. LONG TERM /SATURDAY THROUGH SUNDAY/... AS OF 3 AM WEDNESDAY...NORTHEAST FLOW INITIALLY WILL QUICKLY VEER TO SOUTHEAST AS HIGH PRESSURE WEAKENS AND LEAVES THE WIND FIELD TO BE FORCED BY LOCAL EFFECTS IE...THE SEABREEZE. THIS WILL OCCUR LATE SATURDAY AND SUNDAY AS WINDS DROP TO BELOW 10 KNOTS. SEAS FOLLOW A SIMILAR TREND WITH 2-4 FEET INITIALLY DROPPING TO 2-3 FEET. && .ILM WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... SC...NONE. NC...NONE. MARINE...DENSE FOG ADVISORY UNTIL NOON EST TODAY FOR AMZ250-252- 254-256. SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY FROM NOON TODAY TO MIDNIGHT EST THURSDAY NIGHT FOR AMZ250-252-254-256. && $$ NEAR TERM...TRA SHORT TERM...SHK LONG TERM...SHK AVIATION...43
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS WILMINGTON NC
1052 AM EST WED NOV 16 2011 .SYNOPSIS... A COLD FRONT OVER THE TENNESSEE VALLEY WILL SLIDE EASTWARD BRINGING SHOWERS AND A CHANCE OF THUNDERSTORMS...INCLUDING SEVERE WEATHER...TONIGHT INTO THROUGH THURSDAY MORNING. MUCH COOLER AND DRIER AIR WILL FOLLOW LATE THURSDAY AND FRIDAY. HIGH PRESSURE WILL MOVE OVERHEAD WITH TEMPERATURES MODERATING DURING THE WEEKEND. ANOTHER FRONT WILL SHIFT TOWARD THE AREA EARLY NEXT WEEK. && .NEAR TERM /THROUGH TONIGHT/... AS OF 1030 AM WEDNESDAY...WARM MOIST SOUTHWEST FLOW CONTINUES OVER THE CAROLINAS TODAY IN ADVANCE OF A STRONG COLD FRONT NOW LOCATED IN EASTERN TENNESSEE...NORTHERN ALABAMA...AND MISSISSIPPI. TODAY SHOULD BE THE WARMEST DAY OF THIS ENTIRE STRING OF MILD WEATHER DATING BACK TO SUNDAY...WITH THIS AFTERNOON`S HIGHS REACHING THE LOWER 80S INLAND AWAY FROM MARINE INFLUENCES. 850 MB TEMPS IN THE +15C TO +16C RANGE WOULD BE MORE AT HOME IN JUNE THAN IN NOVEMBER...AND WILL SUPPORT THESE VERY MILD READINGS. RECORD HIGHS FOR TODAY ARE IN THE MID TO UPPER 80S ARE SHOULD REMAIN UNTOUCHED. DEWPOINTS IN THE UPPER 60S PLUS A LONG WIND FETCH ACROSS THE COLD NEARSHORE COASTAL WATERS IS PRODUCING AREAS OF FOG AND VERY LOW STRATUS CLOUDS OVER THE OCEAN AND SOME OF THE BEACHES. VISIBILITIES IN THE 0.25 TO 1 MILE RANGE ARE COMMON ON THE BEACHES AND OUT OVER THE COASTAL WATERS. AS LONG AS THE SUN IS SHINING TODAY THIS FOG SHOULD HAVE LITTLE SUCCESS MAKING IT MORE THAN 1 MILE INLAND OR SO...BUT ANY REMAINING FOG THIS EVENING COULD PUSH FARTHER INLAND. FIRST WE HAVE TRIMMED BACK POPS TODAY WITH ALL SHORT-TERM GUIDANCE SUGGESTING WE WILL SEE LITTLE IF ANY SHOWER ACTIVITY OVER OUR FORECAST AREA BEFORE DARK. WE DID LEAVE A SMALL 20 POP WEST OF I-95 LATE THIS AFTERNOON WHERE ONE OF THE PREVIOUS THREE HRRR RUNS SHOWS SOME SHOWERS POSSIBLE. THERE IS INSTABILITY (CAPE AROUND 1000 J/KG) FORECAST TO DEVELOP THIS AFTERNOON BUT TRIGGERS FOR CONVECTION ARE LARGELY ABSENT. THE BIG STORY IS THE POTENTIAL FOR SEVERE WEATHER AHEAD OF THE FRONT TONIGHT. ALTHOUGH SURFACE-BASED CAPE/INSTABILITY IS NOT IMPRESSIVE AFTER SUNSET THERE IS RATHER LARGE ELEVATED CAPE WHEN PARCELS AT 950/925 MB ARE CONSIDERED. RATHER STEEP LAPSE RATES THROUGH ALL THE MID AND UPPER LEVELS OF THE ATMOSPHERE WILL BE SUPPORTIVE OF DEEP CONVECTION. SYNOPTIC FACTORS SUPPORTIVE OF LIFT INCLUDE A FAVORABLY-POSITIONED JET STREAK MOVING THROUGH THE MID-ATLANTIC REGION TONIGHT PLACING THE CAROLINAS SQUARELY IN THE FAVORED RIGHT-ENTRANCE REGION...STRONG AND SLIGHTLY BACKED LOW LEVEL WINDS RELATIVE TO THE MID AND UPPER LEVEL FLOW PRODUCING 0-6 KM BULK SHEAR VALUES ON THE ORDER OF 50-70 KT...AND SEVERAL 500 MB VORTICITY CENTERS PASSING OVER OR JUST NORTH OF OUR FORECAST AREA. THE LATEST SPC CONVECTIVE OUTLOOK INCREASED SEVERE WEATHER PROBABILITIES FOR WIND AND TORNADOES...AND WE WOULD NOT BE AT ALL SURPRISED TO SEE TORNADO WATCHES FOR PORTIONS OF OUR FORECAST AREA THIS EVENING AND OVERNIGHT. && .SHORT TERM /THURSDAY THROUGH FRIDAY NIGHT/... AS OF 3 AM WEDNESDAY...FORECAST MODELS HAVE SLOWED DOWN THE PROGRESSION OF THE COLD FRONT EVER SO SLIGHTLY AND HAVE THEREFORE EXTENDED POPS ACROSS THE BOARD INTO THE LATE MORNING HOURS...ESPECIALLY COASTAL AREAS. OTHERWISE INTERESTING TEMPERATURE FORECAST FOR THURSDAY HIGHS AS THE MAV NUMBERS SHOW NO WARMING IN WILMINGTON WITH LITTLE ELSEWHERE. WITH THE DOWNSLOPE FLOW AND COLD AIR ADVECTION NOT THAT IMPRESSIVE...DID ADD A DEGREE OR TWO TO THE MAV NUMBERS. FOR FRIDAY MORNING WINDS DECOUPLE INLAND WHILE REMAINING UP SLIGHTLY ALONG THE COAST AND ADJUSTED MOS NUMBERS ACCORDINGLY. COOL DAY FRIDAY WITH MOST AREAS REMAINING BELOW 60. && .LONG TERM /SATURDAY THROUGH TUESDAY/... AS OF 3 AM WEDNESDAY...EXTENDED FORECAST IS RATHER UNEVENTFUL AS THE PATTERN QUICKLY EVOLVES FROM ZONAL TO RIDGING ACROSS THE SOUTHEAST...SIMILAR TO THE PATTERN WE HAVE EXPERIENCED THE PAST FEW DAYS. HPC IS FAVORING A BLEND OF THE GFS/ECMWF AND UKMET. REALLY THE ONLY FORECAST CHALLENGES INVOLVE LIGHT COASTAL TROUGH QPF SATURDAY AND A BACKDOOR FRONT TUESDAY. AS FOR THE FORMER...MAINTAINED A DRY FORECAST AS THE MODELS ARE USUALLY OVERDONE WITH THE QPF AND IN REALITY IT IS GENERALLY A STRATUS LAYER. REGARDING THE FRONT...THE LATEST GFS IS MORE BULLISH IN PUSHING THE FRONT SOUTH WITH THE EFFECTS ONLY BEING AN AIRMASS CHANGE. THE 0000 UTC ECMWF HAS BACKED OFF A FURTHER SOUTH SOLUTION. OTHERWISE...AS WE JUST EXPERIENCED...ABOVE NORMAL TO DOWN RIGHT BALMY CONDITIONS FOR LATE IN THE WEEKEND AND EARLY NEXT WEEK. && .AVIATION /12Z WEDNESDAY THROUGH SUNDAY/... AS OF 12Z...SATELLITE AND OBSERVATIONS SHOW IFR/LIFR CONDITIONS ENTRENCHED OVER MUCH OF THE CWA...A MIXTURE OF STRATUS AND ADVECTION SEA FOG. EXPECT IFR CONDITIONS TO CONTINUE THROUGH THE MORNING HOURS...LIFTING OR SCATTERING AROUND 16Z...AS SOUTHWEST FLOW INCREASES AHEAD OF A COLD FRONT. EXPECT MVFR/NEAR VFR CONDITIONS FOR THE AFTERNOON HOURS...ONLY TO LOWER TO IFR SHORTLY AFTER 00Z. TONIGHT...DEEP MOISTURE ASSOCIATED WITH THE COLD FRONT WILL CROSS THE CWA...REACHING THE COAST BY 09Z. SHOWERS WILL BE SCATTERED TO NUMEROUS ALONG AND AHEAD OF THE FRONT. LOW PRESSURE ALONG THE COLD FRONT MAY ACTUALLY HAVE A DRY SLOT WITH IT...BUT CONFIDENCE IS LOW. EXTENDED OUTLOOK...SHOWERS LINGERING THURSDAY MORNING WILL LIFT OUT BY LATE MORNING WITH CONDITIONS IMPROVING TO VFR. EXPECT VFR FRIDAY AND SATURDAY...WITH LOWERED CONFIDENCE FOR POTENTIAL IFR FOG/STRATUS SUNDAY MORNING. && .MARINE... NEAR TERM /THROUGH TONIGHT/... AS OF 1030 AM WEDNESDAY...SATELLITE IMAGERY...SURF CAMS...AND OBSERVATIONS FROM NORTH MYRTLE BEACH AND SOUTHPORT CONTINUE TO INDICATE EXPANSIVE AREAS OF DENSE SEA FOG THIS MORNING. WE WILL LIKELY HAVE TO EXTEND THE TIME OF THE DENSE FOG ADVISORY LATER THIS MORNING AS THE MOIST SOUTHWESTERLY FLOW IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE THROUGH TODAY AND INTO THIS EVENING. THERE IS QUITE A THERMAL GRADIENT ACROSS THE AREA WITH THE FRYING PAN SHOALS BUOY REPORTING AN AIR TEMP OF 75...WHILE 66-67 DEGREE TEMPS ARE BEING REPORTED ON THE BEACHES NEAR CAPE FEAR. SOUTHWESTERLY WINDS AROUND 15 KT WILL INCREASE FURTHER TONIGHT AS THE GRADIENT TIGHTENS AHEAD OF THE INCOMING STRONG COLD FRONT. SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS WILL ALSO INCREASE IN COVERAGE TONIGHT. THE SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY REMAINS IN PLACE FOR THE ROUGHER CONDITIONS NEAR AND AHEAD OF THE FRONT. SHORT TERM /THURSDAY THROUGH FRIDAY NIGHT/... AS OF 3 AM WEDNESDAY...MAIN FORECAST CHALLENGE WILL BE WHEN TO CONCLUDE THE SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY LATE THURSDAY EVENING. A PERIOD OF STRONG NORTHERLY WINDS WILL FOLLOW THE FRONT THURSDAY INTO THURSDAY EVENING. FOR NOW WITH THE TIMING STILL OUT FOUR PERIODS...WILL NOT TWEAK BUT ISSUE THE DISCLAIMER THE HEADLINE MAY HAVE TO BE EXTENDED A FEW HOURS. WINDS VEER TO NORTHEASTERLY FRIDAY AND DIMINISH SOMEWHAT TO A MANAGEABLE RANGE OF 15-20 KNOTS MAINLY TO THE LOWER END. HIGH SEAS EARLY GET CONFINED TO THE OUTER WATERS WITH THE WIND SHIFT AND REMAIN THERE FOR THE MOST PART. SOME FIVE TO SIX FOOTERS MAY LINGER ACROSS THE OUTER WATERS GIVING THE FRIDAY. LONG TERM /SATURDAY THROUGH SUNDAY/... AS OF 3 AM WEDNESDAY...NORTHEAST FLOW INITIALLY WILL QUICKLY VEER TO SOUTHEAST AS HIGH PRESSURE WEAKENS AND LEAVES THE WIND FIELD TO BE FORCED BY LOCAL EFFECTS IE...THE SEABREEZE. THIS WILL OCCUR LATE SATURDAY AND SUNDAY AS WINDS DROP TO BELOW 10 KNOTS. SEAS FOLLOW A SIMILAR TREND WITH 2-4 FEET INITIALLY DROPPING TO 2-3 FEET. && .ILM WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... SC...NONE. NC...NONE. MARINE...DENSE FOG ADVISORY UNTIL NOON EST TODAY FOR AMZ250-252- 254-256. SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY FROM NOON TODAY TO MIDNIGHT EST THURSDAY NIGHT FOR AMZ250-252-254-256. && $$ NEAR TERM...TRA SHORT TERM...SHK LONG TERM...SHK AVIATION...43
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS WILMINGTON NC
300 AM EST WED NOV 16 2011 .SYNOPSIS... A COLD FRONT OVER THE TENNESSEE VALLEY WILL SLIDE EASTWARD BRINGING SHOWERS AND A CHANCE OF THUNDERSTORMS THROUGH THURSDAY MORNING. MUCH COOLER AND DRIER AIR WILL FOLLOW LATE THURSDAY AND FRIDAY. HIGH PRESSURE WILL MOVE OVERHEAD WITH TEMPERATURES MODERATING DURING THE WEEKEND. ANOTHER FRONT WILL SHIFT TOWARD THE AREA EARLY NEXT WEEK. && .NEAR TERM /UNTIL 6 AM THURSDAY MORNING/... AS OF 3:00 AM WEDNESDAY...MORNING LOW STRATUS WILL BURN OFF DURING THE MID TO LATE MORNING HOURS. PATCHY SEA FOG OFFSHORE MAY ENCROACH ONTO THE BEACHES AND NEARBY ENVIRONS FOR AT LEAST THE FIRST HALF OF THE DAY. VISIBILITIES MAY BE REDUCED TO A MILE OR LESS IN A FEW PLACES. SOME HIGHER CLOUDS WILL BE IN PLACE THROUGH THE DAY. AS WE MIX DRIER AIR TO THE SURFACE...SKIES WILL BECOME AT LEAST PARTLY CLOUDY. WINDS ALOFT WILL BE SW AT 30 TO 40 KT AND AS WE MIX TO A DEPTH OF AROUND 3 KFT...WE WILL EXPERIENCE WIND GUSTS OF NEAR 30 MPH LATE MORNING AND THROUGH THE AFTERNOON AND EVE. A STRONG COLD FRONT WILL BE APPROACHING FROM THE NW TODAY. A SERIES OF SURFACE LOWS WILL TRAVERSE THIS BOUNDARY. THE FRONT IS EXPECTED TO REACH THE I-95 CORRIDOR DURING THE LATE EVE AND THEN MOVE ACROSS THE FORECAST AREA DURING THE EARLY MORNING HOURS OF THU...AND FINALLY OFF THE COAST DURING THU MORNING. DEEP SW FLOW WILL ALLOW PRECIPITABLE WATER VALUES TO RISE TO AROUND ONE AND A HALF INCHES. SUFFICIENT FORCING TO GENERATE PRECIPITATION MAY NOT ARRIVE TO WELL AFTER DARK. LOW LEVEL JET WILL INCREASE TO AROUND 50 KT OVERNIGHT. MODELS ARE INDICATING AN INVERSION AROUND 1400 FT TONIGHT AND THIS WILL MAKE IT DIFFICULT FOR HIGHER WINDS ALOFT TO REACH THE GROUND. HOWEVER...ONE AREA OF LOW PRESSURE WILL LIKELY BE MOVING ALONG AND N OF OUR INLAND ZONES OVERNIGHT. BULK SHEAR VALUES ARE FORECAST TO BE NEAR OR OVER 60 KT DURING THE LATE NIGHT AND EARLY MORNING HOURS...HIGHEST NEAR THE TRACK OF THE SURFACE LOW. LCLS WILL BE DROPPING DURING THIS TIME. THIS SUPPORTS AN ISOLATED RISK FOR TORNADOES. SPC HAS A PORTION OF THE FORECAST AREA IN A SLIGHT RISK FOR SEVERE WEATHER...INCLUDING TORNADOES. CURRENTLY THE RISK AREA IS ACROSS THE PEE DEE REGION OF SOUTH CAROLINA AND FROM NEAR FAIR BLUFF TO BURGAW IN NORTH CAROLINA AND POINTS NORTH. THIS AREA MAY SHIFT THROUGH THE DAY...BUT AT THIS TIME IT IS REASONABLE TO EXPECT SOME RISK OF ISOLATED TORNADOES OR DAMAGING WIND GUSTS ACROSS A MAJORITY OF THE AREA. POPS WILL BE HIGHEST LATE TONIGHT...CATEGORICAL NW ZONES TO LIKELY AS YOU APPROACH THE COAST WITH CONVECTION LINGERING ALONG THE COAST THROUGH THU MORNING. CURRENT PRECIPITATION FORECAST INCLUDES AMOUNTS IN THE ONE-HALF INCH TO ONE-INCH RANGE...BUT AMOUNTS SHOULD BE HIGHLY VARIABLE AS YOU MOVE FROM ONE COMMUNITY TO THE NEXT. FORECAST TEMPS WILL BE WELL ABOVE NORMAL WITH HIGHS IN THE UPPER 70S TO LOWER 80S EXCEPT ALONG THE IMMEDIATE COAST WHERE THE COMPARATIVELY COOL MARINE ENVIRONMENT WILL KEEP READINGS IN THE LOWER TO PERHAPS MID 70S. TEMPS TONIGHT WILL BE IN THE BALMY 70S FOR MOST OF THE EVE WITH MINIMUMS ACROSS MOST OF THE AREA PROJECTED TO FALL ONLY TO THE LOWER TO MID 60S BY SUNRISE THU. && .SHORT TERM /6 AM THURSDAY MORNING THROUGH FRIDAY EVENING/... AS OF 3:00 AM WEDNESDAY...FORECAST MODELS HAVE SLOWED DOWN THE PROGRESSION OF THE COLD FRONT EVER SO SLIGHTLY AND HAVE THEREFORE EXTENDED POPS ACROSS THE BOARD INTO THE LATE MORNING HOURS...ESPECIALLY COASTAL AREAS. OTHERWISE INTERESTING TEMPERATURE FORECAST FOR THURSDAY HIGHS AS THE MAV NUMBERS SHOW NO WARMING IN WILMINGTON WITH LITTLE ELSEWHERE. WITH THE DOWNSLOPE FLOW AND COLD AIR ADVECTION NOT THAT IMPRESSIVE...DID ADD A DEGREE OR TWO TO THE MAV NUMBERS. FOR FRIDAY MORNING WINDS DECOUPLE INLAND WHILE REMAINING UP SLIGHTLY ALONG THE COAST AND ADJUSTED MOS NUMBERS ACCORDINGLY. COOL DAY FRIDAY WITH MOST AREAS REMAINING BELOW 60. && .LONG TERM /SATURDAY THROUGH TUESDAY/... AS OF 3:00 AM WEDNESDAY...EXTENDED FORECAST IS RATHER UNEVENTFUL AS THE PATTERN QUICKLY EVOLVES FROM ZONAL TO RIDGING ACROSS THE SOUTHEAST...SIMILAR TO THE PATTERN WE HAVE EXPERIENCED THE PAST FEW DAYS. HPC IS FAVORING A BLEND OF THE GFS/ECMWF AND UKMET. REALLY THE ONLY FORECAST CHALLENGES INVOLVE LIGHT COASTAL TROUGH QPF SATURDAY AND A BACKDOOR FRONT TUESDAY. AS FOR THE FORMER...MAINTAINED A DRY FORECAST AS THE MODELS ARE USUALLY OVERDONE WITH THE QPF AND IN REALITY IT IS GENERALLY A STRATUS LAYER. REGARDING THE FRONT...THE LATEST GFS IS MORE BULLISH IN PUSHING THE FRONT SOUTH WITH THE EFFECTS ONLY BEING AN AIRMASS CHANGE. THE 0000 UTC ECMWF HAS BACKED OFF A FURTHER SOUTH SOLUTION. OTHERWISE...AS WE JUST EXPERIENCED...ABOVE NORMAL TO DOWN RIGHT BALMY CONDITIONS FOR LATE IN THE WEEKEND AND EARLY NEXT WEEK. && .AVIATION /08Z WEDNESDAY THROUGH SUNDAY/... AS OF 06Z...HIGH CONFIDENCE IFR CEILINGS OR LOWER WILL DOMINATE THROUGH THE FIRST 6 TO 9 HOURS AT ALL THE TERMINALS. VISIBILITY WILL FLUCTUATE FROM MVFR TO IFR OR LOWER IN FOG. EARLIER LIGHT RAIN AT KILM HAS ENDED AS SHOWERS CONTINUE TO PULL AWAY FROM THE CAPE FEAR REGION. PATCHY SEA FOG WILL CONTINUE OFFSHORE AND MAY COME ONTO THE COAST BRINGING BOUTS OF LOWER VISIBILITY TO THE COASTAL TERMINALS BEFORE WINDS VEER MORE SOLIDLY SW BY/AFTER SUNRISE. CONDITIONS WILL SLOWLY IMPROVE TO VFR MID-MORNING THROUGH MIDDAY. TIGHTENING PRESSURE GRADIENT AHEAD OF COLD FRONT WILL CREATE GUSTY SW WINDS...18-22KTS AT ALL TAF SITES LATE MORNING AND THROUGH THE AFTERNOON AND EARLY EVE. TOWARD THE END OF THE VALID PERIOD AND THEREAFTER...CONDITIONS WILL SLOWLY BEGIN TO DETERIORATE AGAIN AS A COLD FRONT BRINGS SHRA AND ISOLATED TSRA LATE TONIGHT AND THU MORNING. EXTENDED OUTLOOK...COLD FRONT MOVING ACROSS THE AREA OVERNIGHT INTO THURSDAY MORNING COULD CREATE ISOLATED IFR IN TSRA. EXPECT VFR FRIDAY AND SATURDAY...WITH LOWERED CONFIDENCE FOR POTENTIAL IFR FOG/STRATUS SUNDAY MORNING. && .MARINE... NEAR TERM /THROUGH TONIGHT/... AS OF 1055 PM TUESDAY...THE SEA FOG THREAT CONTINUES ACROSS THE ILM WATERS. WILL CONTINUE TO INDICATE PATCHY/AREAS OF SEA FOG ACROSS THE ILM WATERS THROUGH OR JUST AFTER DAYBREAK WEDNESDAY. WITH THE LATEST AVAILABLE SST MAP OF THE ILM WATERS USING AVHRR DATA FOR THE 2 DAYS ENDING ON NOV 14TH...2 NOTEWORTHY PATCHES OF COOLER SHELF WATERS IN THE LOW 60S WERE SHOWN. ONE PATCH BETWEEN SURF CITY AND CAPE FEAR...AND OUT TO NEARLY THE FRYING PAN SHOALS BUOY...41013. AND THE 2ND PATCH...LYING ACROSS THE WATERS BETWEEN NORTH MYRTLE BEACH TO SOUTH SANTEE RIVER. THIS 2ND ONE NOT NEARLY AS PRONOUNCED AS THE 1ST. SFC DEWPOINTS IN THE MID 60S TO NEAR 70 WILL CONTINUE TO ADVECT ACROSS THESE COOLER SHELF WATERS OVERNIGHT INTO WED. THIS WILL RESULT WITH AN INCREASED POTENTIAL FOR SEA FOG TO DEVELOP AND AFFECT THE ILM WATERS...PARTICULAR ACROSS THOSE COOL WATERS. A FEW LOCAL SURF CAMS HAVE SHOWCASED THE EXISTENCE OF THE SEA FOG. AS SYNOPTIC WINDS SLOWLY VEER FROM 190-230 OVERNIGHT INTO WED...THE THREAT FOR SEA FOG WILL SLOWLY DIMINISH OR AT LEAST KEEP THE FOG FROM ADVECTING ONSHORE/INLAND. WILL INDICATE VSBY REDUCING TO 1NM OR LESS. IF ANY RECEIVED REPORTS AND/OR OBS INDICATE 1/2 NM OR LESS VSBYS...WILL THEN UPDATE AND ADVERTISE DENSE FOG. A MARINE WEATHER STATEMENT HAS BEEN ISSUED TO HIGHLIGHT THE INCREASED POTENTIAL FOR SEA FOG. HAVE MAINTAINED THE WINDS AND SEAS FORECAST FROM THE PREVIOUS FORECAST...WITH THE LATEST HRRR KEEPING WINDS ON THE LOWER SIDE OF MODEL GUIDANCE. WHICH IN TURN...PRODUCING SLIGHTLY LOWER SEAS THAN ORIGINALLY THOUGHT. SHORT TERM /THURSDAY THROUGH FRIDAY NIGHT/... AS OF 3:00 AM WEDNESDAY...MAIN FORECAST CHALLENGE WILL BE WHEN TO CONCLUDE THE SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY LATE THURSDAY EVENING. A PERIOD OF STRONG NORTHERLY WINDS WILL FOLLOW THE FRONT THURSDAY INTO THURSDAY EVENING. FOR NOW WITH THE TIMING STILL OUT FOUR PERIODS...WILL NOT TWEAK BUT ISSUE THE DISCLAIMER THE HEADLINE MAY HAVE TO BE EXTENDED A FEW HOURS. WINDS VEER TO NORTHEASTERLY FRIDAY AND DIMINISH SOMEWHAT TO A MANAGEABLE RANGE OF 15-20 KNOTS MAINLY TO THE LOWER END. HIGH SEAS EARLY GET CONFINED TO THE OUTER WATERS WITH THE WIND SHIFT AND REMAIN THERE FOR THE MOST PART. SOME FIVE TO SIX FOOTERS MAY LINGER ACROSS THE OUTER WATERS GIVING THE FRIDAY. LONG TERM /SATURDAY THROUGH SUNDAY/... AS OF 3:00 AM WEDNESDAY...NORTHEAST FLOW INITIALLY WILL QUICKLY VEER TO SOUTHEAST AS HIGH PRESSURE WEAKENS AND LEAVES THE WIND FIELD TO BE FORCED BY LOCAL EFFECTS IE...THE SEABREEZE. THIS WILL OCCUR LATE SATURDAY AND SUNDAY AS WINDS DROP TO BELOW 10 KNOTS. SEAS FOLLOW A SIMILAR TREND WITH 2-4 FEET INITIALLY DROPPING TO 2-3 FEET. && .ILM WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... SC...NONE. NC...NONE. MARINE...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY FROM NOON TODAY TO MIDNIGHT EST THURSDAY NIGHT FOR AMZ250-252-254-256. && $$ SYNOPSIS...SHK NEAR TERM...RJD SHORT TERM...SHK LONG TERM...SHK AVIATION...SGL/RJD
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NWS WILMINGTON NC
1222 AM EST WED NOV 16 2011 .SYNOPSIS... HIGH PRESSURE WILL CONTINUE OVER THE REGION THROUGH WEDNESDAY. A COLD FRONT OVER THE MIDWEST WILL SLIDE EASTWARD BRINGING SHOWERS AND A CHANCE OF THUNDERSTORMS OVERNIGHT WEDNESDAY INTO THURSDAY. MUCH COOLER AND DRIER AIR WILL FOLLOW ON THURSDAY AND FRIDAY. HIGH PRESSURE WILL MOVE OVERHEAD WITH TEMPERATURES MODERATING DURING THE WEEKEND. A SECOND FRONT WILL SHIFT TOWARD THE AREA ON TUESDAY. && .NEAR TERM /THROUGH TONIGHT/... AS OF 1045 PM TUESDAY...SPORADIC ONSHORE MOVEMENT OF PATCHY OR AREAS OF SEA FOG WILL CONTINUE OVERNIGHT. THIS A RESULT OF SFC WINDS BOUNCING FROM 180-210 DEGREES. AS WINDS BECOME DOMINANT 210-230 DEGREE DIRECTION AFTER DAYBREAK WEDNESDAY...THE THREAT FOR SEA FOG MOVING ONSHORE WILL DIMINISH GREATLY. SCATTERED -SHRA LATE THIS EVENING AND OVERNIGHT DUE TO A WEAK LOW-MID LEVEL IMPULSE TRACKING NE...AS WELL AS LOW LEVEL WIND SPEED CONVERGENCE FROM 15-25 KT S-SW WINDS OFFSHORE QUICKLY DROPPING TO 10 KT OR LESS OVER THE COOLER SHELF WATERS...AS WELL AS WEAK WIND DIRECTION CONVERGENCE FROM SW INLAND TO S-SSW ALONG THE IMMEDIATE COAST. AS FOR SEA FOG...THE LATEST AVAILABLE SST MAP OF THE WATERS OFF THE SOUTHEAST U.S. COAST USING AVHRR DATA FOR THE 2 DAYS ENDING ON NOV 14TH...INDICATED 2 PATCHES OF NOTEWORTHY COOL SHELF WATERS OFF THE CAROLINAS...WITH 1 PATCH BETWEEN SURF CITY AND CAPE FEAR...TO NEARLY OUT TO THE FRYING PAN SHOALS BUOY...41013. AND THE SECOND PATCH LYING ACROSS THE COASTAL WATERS BETWEEN NORTH MYRTLE BEACH TO SOUTH SANTEE RIVER. THIS 2ND ONE NOT AS PRONOUNCED AS THE 1ST. WITH SFC DEWPOINTS IN THE MID 60S TO NEAR 70 ADVECTING ACROSS THESE COOLER SHELF WATERS OVERNIGHT INTO WED...SEA FOG WILL CONTINUE TO DEVELOP AND AFFECT THE IMMEDIATE COAST BORDERING THE AFOREMENTIONED COLL SHELF WATER AREAS. A FEW LOCAL SURF CAMS HAVE ALSO SHOWCASED THE EXISTENCE OF THE SEA FOG AT TIMES. && .SHORT TERM /WEDNESDAY THROUGH THURSDAY NIGHT/... AS OF 3 PM TUESDAY...A LARGE SCALE UPPER LEVEL TROUGH OVER THE WESTERN UNITED STATES WILL SHIFT EASTWARD BY WEDNESDAY NIGHT AND THIS WILL PROVIDE GOOD SYNOPTIC LIFT FOR THE REGION. AT THE SURFACE A FRONTAL BOUNDARY WILL ACT AS THE LOW LEVEL LIFTING MECHANISM FOR SHOWERS AND ISOLATED THUNDERSTORMS. INSTABILITY IS FORECAST BY THE MODEL TO BE VERY LOW AND THE LOW-LEVEL 0 TO 2.5 KM BULK SHEAR MAGNITUDE REACHES ALMOST 40 KNOTS. THE LOW-LEVEL HELICITY MAXIMUM APPEARS TO BE SHIFTING FARTHER NORTH WITH THIS MODEL RUN AND IS RUNNING AHEAD OF THE MODEL CONVECTION...SO CONFIDENCE ON ISOLATED TORNADOES IS NOT VERY HIGH AT THIS TIME. MAXIMUM TEMPERATURES ARE EXPECTED TO REACH IN THE UPPER 70S INLAND ON WEDNESDAY AND WITH THE FRONTAL BOUNDARY PASSAGE HIGHS ARE EXPECTED TO ONLY REACH IN THE LOWER TO MIDDLE 60S ON THURSDAY. && .LONG TERM /FRIDAY THROUGH TUESDAY/... AS OF 3 PM TUESDAY...COLD SURFACE HIGH BUILDS INTO THE REGION FRI BEFORE QUICKLY SHIFTING NORTHEAST FRI NIGHT INTO SAT. WEAK COASTAL TROUGH DEVELOPS SAT WITH LOW LEVEL EAST TO NORTHEAST FLOW INCREASING MOISTURE IN THE LOWEST 3K FT OR SO. CURRENT FORECAST IS DEVOID OF PRECIP HOWEVER THE INCREASE IN LOW LEVEL MOISTURE COMBINED WITH DEVELOPING RETURN FLOW JUST ABOVE THE SURFACE LATER IN THE DAY SAT COULD PRODUCE SOME LIGHT PATCHY OF RAIN. WOULD NOT EXPECT MUCH QPF SHOULD SOMETHING DEVELOP WITH COASTAL NC THE MOST LIKELY AREA TO SEE SOMETHING. AT THE VERY LEAST ANTICIPATE AN INCREASE IN CLOUD COVER SAT INTO SUN. COASTAL TROUGH DISSIPATES SUN AS SURFACE RIDGE AXIS SHIFTS EAST OF THE AREA. ALTHOUGH DEVELOPING SOUTHERLY FLOW HELPS INCREASE LOW LEVEL MOISTURE SUN AND MON DRY MID LEVELS AND WEAK CAP...A RESULT OF BUILDING WEAK MID LEVEL RIDGE...WILL PREVENT ANY PRECIP. WEAK COLD FRONT STALLED NORTH OF THE AREA TUE WILL TRY AND DROP SOUTH DURING THE DAY. IF FRONT MOVES ACROSS THE AREA DO NOT THINK IT WOULD HAVE MUCH PRECIP ASSOCIATED WITH IT. THE FRONT IS STRETCHED OUT WITH THE DYNAMICS WELL OFF TO THE NORTHEAST. TEMPERATURES WILL RANGE FROM WELL BELOW CLIMO AT THE START OF THE PERIOD TO ABOVE CLIMO EARLY NEXT WEEK. THE TRANSITION FROM BELOW CLIMO TO ABOVE WILL BE QUICK...BY SAT NIGHT TEMPS SHOULD BE ABOVE CLIMO. && .AVIATION /06Z WEDNESDAY THROUGH SUNDAY/... AS OF 06Z...HIGH CONFIDENCE IFR CEILINGS OR LOWER WILL DOMINATE THROUGH THE FIRST 6 TO 9 HOURS AT ALL THE TERMINALS. VISIBILITY WILL FLUCTUATE FROM MVFR TO IFR OR LOWER IN FOG. EARLIER LIGHT RAIN AT KILM HAS ENDED AS SHOWERS CONTINUE TO PULL AWAY FROM THE CAPE FEAR REGION. PATCHY SEA FOG WILL CONTINUE OFFSHORE AND MAY COME ONTO THE COAST BRINGING BOUTS OF LOWER VISIBILITY TO THE COASTAL TERMINALS BEFORE WINDS VEER MORE SOLIDLY SW BY/AFTER SUNRISE. CONDITIONS WILL SLOWLY IMPROVE TO VFR MID-MORNING THROUGH MIDDAY. TIGHTENING PRESSURE GRADIENT AHEAD OF COLD FRONT WILL CREATE GUSTY SW WINDS...18-22KTS AT ALL TAF SITES LATE MORNING AND THROUGH THE AFTERNOON AND EARLY EVE. TOWARD THE END OF THE VALID PERIOD AND THEREAFTER...CONDITIONS WILL SLOWLY BEGIN TO DETERIORATE AGAIN AS A COLD FRONT BRINGS SHRA AND ISOLATED TSRA LATE TONIGHT AND THU MORNING. EXTENDED OUTLOOK...COLD FRONT MOVING ACROSS THE AREA OVERNIGHT INTO THURSDAY MORNING COULD CREATE ISOLATED IFR IN TSRA. EXPECT VFR FRIDAY AND SATURDAY...WITH LOWERED CONFIDENCE FOR POTENTIAL IFR FOG/STRATUS SUNDAY MORNING. && .MARINE... NEAR TERM /THROUGH TONIGHT/... AS OF 1055 PM TUESDAY...THE SEA FOG THREAT CONTINUES ACROSS THE ILM WATERS. WILL CONTINUE TO INDICATE PATCHY/AREAS OF SEA FOG ACROSS THE ILM WATERS THROUGH OR JUST AFTER DAYBREAK WEDNESDAY. WITH THE LATEST AVAILABLE SST MAP OF THE ILM WATERS USING AVHRR DATA FOR THE 2 DAYS ENDING ON NOV 14TH...2 NOTEWORTHY PATCHES OF COOLER SHELF WATERS IN THE LOW 60S WERE SHOWN. ONE PATCH BETWEEN SURF CITY AND CAPE FEAR...AND OUT TO NEARLY THE FRYING PAN SHOALS BUOY...41013. AND THE 2ND PATCH...LYING ACROSS THE WATERS BETWEEN NORTH MYRTLE BEACH TO SOUTH SANTEE RIVER. THIS 2ND ONE NOT NEARLY AS PRONOUNCED AS THE 1ST. SFC DEWPOINTS IN THE MID 60S TO NEAR 70 WILL CONTINUE TO ADVECT ACROSS THESE COOLER SHELF WATERS OVERNIGHT INTO WED. THIS WILL RESULT WITH AN INCREASED POTENTIAL FOR SEA FOG TO DEVELOP AND AFFECT THE ILM WATERS...PARTICULAR ACROSS THOSE COOL WATERS. A FEW LOCAL SURF CAMS HAVE SHOWCASED THE EXISTENCE OF THE SEA FOG. AS SYNOPTIC WINDS SLOWLY VEER FROM 190-230 OVERNIGHT INTO WED...THE THREAT FOR SEA FOG WILL SLOWLY DIMINISH OR ATLEAST KEEP THE FOG FROM ADVECTING ONSHORE/INLAND. WILL INDICATE VSBY REDUCING TO 1NM OR LESS. IF ANY RECEIVED REPORTS AND/OR OBS INDICATE 1/2 NM OR LESS VSBYS...WILL THEN UPDATE AND ADVERTISE DENSE FOG. A MARINE WEATHER STATEMENT HAS BEEN ISSUED TO HIGHLIGHT THE INCREASED POTENTIAL FOR SEA FOG. HAVE MAINTAINED THE WINDS AND SEAS FORECAST FROM THE PREVIOUS FORECAST...WITH THE LATEST HRRR KEEPING WINDS ON THE LOWER SIDE OF MODEL GUIDANCE. WHICH IN TURN...PRODUCING SLIGHTLY LOWER SEAS THAN ORIGINALLY THOUGHT. SHORT TERM /WEDNESDAY THROUGH THURSDAY NIGHT/... AS OF 3 PM TUESDAY...A COLD FRONT WILL BE APPROACHING THE WATERS LATE WEDNESDAY INTO THURSDAY. SOUTHWEST WINDS WILL INCREASE THROUGH OUT THE DAY ON WEDNESDAY AND THE LOCAL SWAN MODEL IS INDICATING THE SEAS WILL REACH SMALL CRAFT CONDITIONS AROUND MIDNIGHT WEDNESDAY NIGHT-THURSDAY MORNING. AS THE FRONT PUSHES THROUGH THE COLD AIR ADVECTION WILL HELP PROVIDE AN ENVIRONMENT FOR 20 TO 25 KNOT OFF SHORE WINDS ON THURSDAY. LONG TERM /FRIDAY THROUGH SUNDAY/... AS OF 3 PM TUESDAY...POST FRONT COLD SURGE IN THE 15 TO 20 KT RANGE FRI WILL DROP CLOSER TO 10 KT BY SAT MORNING AS GRADIENT. WEAK COASTAL TROF TAKING SHAPE WILL INDUCE A MORE EASTERLY COMPONENT TO LOW LEVEL FLOW. GRADIENT REMAINS WEAK THROUGH THE END OF THE PERIOD WITH WINDS BECOMING EAST TO SOUTHEAST LATE SAT NIGHT AND SUN AS ELONGATED RIDGE AXIS SHIFTS OFFSHORE. ADVISORY WORTHY SEAS AT THE START OF THE PERIOD WILL DROP TO 3 TO 4 FT BY FRI NIGHT AND REMAIN IN THE 3 TO 4 FT RANGE THROUGH SUN. && .ILM WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... SC...NONE. NC...NONE. MARINE...NONE. && $$ SYNOPSIS...HAWKINS NEAR TERM...DOUGH SHORT TERM...HAWKINS LONG TERM...III AVIATION...RJD/LACORTE
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NWS WILMINGTON NC
1045 PM EST TUE NOV 15 2011 .SYNOPSIS... HIGH PRESSURE WILL CONTINUE OVER THE REGION THROUGH WEDNESDAY. A COLD FRONT OVER THE MIDWEST WILL SLIDE EASTWARD BRINGING SHOWERS AND A CHANCE OF THUNDERSTORMS OVERNIGHT WEDNESDAY INTO THURSDAY. MUCH COOLER AND DRIER AIR WILL FOLLOW ON THURSDAY AND FRIDAY. HIGH PRESSURE WILL MOVE OVERHEAD WITH TEMPERATURES MODERATING DURING THE WEEKEND. A SECOND FRONT WILL SHIFT TOWARD THE AREA ON TUESDAY. && .NEAR TERM /THROUGH WEDNESDAY/... AS OF 1045 PM TUESDAY...SPORADIC ONSHORE MOVEMENT OF PATCHY OR AREAS OF SEA FOG WILL CONTINUE OVERNIGHT. THIS A RESULT OF SFC WINDS BOUNCING FROM 180-210 DEGREES. AS WINDS BECOME DOMINANT 210-230 DEGREE DIRECTION AFTER DAYBREAK WEDNESDAY...THE THREAT FOR SEA FOG MOVING ONSHORE WILL DIMINISH GREATLY. SCATTERED -SHRA LATE THIS EVENING AND OVERNIGHT DUE TO A WEAK LOW-MID LEVEL IMPULSE TRACKING NE...AS WELL AS LOW LEVEL WINDSPEED CONVERGENCE FROM 15-25 KT S-SW WINDS OFFSHORE QUICKLY DROPPING TO 10 KT OR LESS OVER THE COOLER SHELF WATERS...AS WELL AS WEAK WIND DIRECTION CONVERGENCE FROM SW INLAND TO S-SSW ALONG THE IMMEDIATE COAST. AS FOR SEA FOG...THE LATEST AVAILABLE SST MAP OF THE WATERS OFF THE SOUTHEAST U.S. COAST USING AVHRR DATA FOR THE 2 DAYS ENDING ON NOV 14TH...INDICATED 2 PATCHES OF NOTEWORTHY COOL SHELF WATERS OFF THE CAROLINAS...WITH 1 PATCH BETWEEN SURF CITY AND CAPE FEAR...TO NEARLY OUT TO THE FRYING PAN SHOALS BUOY...41013. AND THE SECOND PATCH LYING ACROSS THE COASTAL WATERS BETWEEN NORTH MYRTLE BEACH TO SOUTH SANTEE RIVER. THIS 2ND ONE NOT AS PRONOUNCED AS THE 1ST. WITH SFC DEWPOINTS IN THE MID 60S TO NEAR 70 ADVECTING ACROSS THESE COOLER SHELF WATERS OVERNIGHT INTO WED...SEA FOG WILL CONTINUE TO DEVELOP AND AFFECT THE IMMEDIATE COAST BORDERING THE AFOREMENTIONED COLL SHELF WATER AREAS. A FEW LOCAL SURF CAMS HAVE ALSO SHOWCASED THE EXISTENCE OF THE SEA FOG AT TIMES. PREVIOUS MIN FORECAST FOR TONIGHT STILL LOOKING AOK WITH ANY TWEAKS NEEDED WOULD BE ON THE ORDER TO INCREASE LOWS CLOSER TO THE IMMEDIATE COAST. && .SHORT TERM /WEDNESDAY NIGHT THROUGH THURSDAY NIGHT/... AS OF 3 PM TUESDAY...A LARGE SCALE UPPER LEVEL TROUGH OVER THE WESTERN UNITED STATES WILL SHIFT EASTWARD BY WEDNESDAY NIGHT AND THIS WILL PROVIDE GOOD SYNOPTIC LIFT FOR THE REGION. AT THE SURFACE A FRONTAL BOUNDARY WILL ACT AS THE LOW LEVEL LIFTING MECHANISM FOR SHOWERS AND ISOLATED THUNDERSTORMS. INSTABILITY IS FORECAST BY THE MODEL TO BE VERY LOW AND THE LOW-LEVEL 0 TO 2.5 KM BULK SHEAR MAGNITUDE REACHES ALMOST 40 KNOTS. THE LOW-LEVEL HELICITY MAXIMUM APPEARS TO BE SHIFTING FARTHER NORTH WITH THIS MODEL RUN AND IS RUNNING AHEAD OF THE MODEL CONVECTION...SO CONFIDENCE ON ISOLATED TORNADOES IS NOT VERY HIGH AT THIS TIME. MAXIMUM TEMPERATURES ARE EXPECTED TO REACH IN THE UPPER 70S INLAND ON WEDNESDAY AND WITH THE FRONTAL BOUNDARY PASSAGE HIGHS ARE EXPECTED TO ONLY REACH IN THE LOWER TO MIDDLE 60S ON THURSDAY. && .LONG TERM /FRIDAY THROUGH TUESDAY/... AS OF 3 PM TUESDAY...COLD SURFACE HIGH BUILDS INTO THE REGION FRI BEFORE QUICKLY SHIFTING NORTHEAST FRI NIGHT INTO SAT. WEAK COASTAL TROUGH DEVELOPS SAT WITH LOW LEVEL EAST TO NORTHEAST FLOW INCREASING MOISTURE IN THE LOWEST 3K FT OR SO. CURRENT FORECAST IS DEVOID OF PRECIP HOWEVER THE INCREASE IN LOW LEVEL MOISTURE COMBINED WITH DEVELOPING RETURN FLOW JUST ABOVE THE SURFACE LATER IN THE DAY SAT COULD PRODUCE SOME LIGHT PATCHY OF RAIN. WOULD NOT EXPECT MUCH QPF SHOULD SOMETHING DEVELOP WITH COASTAL NC THE MOST LIKELY AREA TO SEE SOMETHING. AT THE VERY LEAST ANTICIPATE AN INCREASE IN CLOUD COVER SAT INTO SUN. COASTAL TROUGH DISSIPATES SUN AS SURFACE RIDGE AXIS SHIFTS EAST OF THE AREA. ALTHOUGH DEVELOPING SOUTHERLY FLOW HELPS INCREASE LOW LEVEL MOISTURE SUN AND MON DRY MID LEVELS AND WEAK CAP...A RESULT OF BUILDING WEAK MID LEVEL RIDGE...WILL PREVENT ANY PRECIP. WEAK COLD FRONT STALLED NORTH OF THE AREA TUE WILL TRY AND DROP SOUTH DURING THE DAY. IF FRONT MOVES ACROSS THE AREA DO NOT THINK IT WOULD HAVE MUCH PRECIP ASSOCIATED WITH IT. THE FRONT IS STRETCHED OUT WITH THE DYNAMICS WELL OFF TO THE NORTHEAST. TEMPERATURES WILL RANGE FROM WELL BELOW CLIMO AT THE START OF THE PERIOD TO ABOVE CLIMO EARLY NEXT WEEK. THE TRANSITION FROM BELOW CLIMO TO ABOVE WILL BE QUICK...BY SAT NIGHT TEMPS SHOULD BE ABOVE CLIMO. && .AVIATION /00Z WEDNESDAY THROUGH SUNDAY/... AS OF 00Z...EXPECT CONTINUED AREAS OF PATCHY SEA FOG TO ADVECT ONSHORE AT KCRE/KMYR OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF HOURS...REDUCING VSBYS OFF AND ON TO MVFR BEFORE FLOW FROM VEERING WINDS STEER FOG AWAY FROM TERMINALS AFTER DAYBREAK. FOR KILM...CURRENT RADAR DEPICTS SOME -SHRA OFFSHORE. CANNOT RULE OUT A LIGHT SHOWER TO WRAP AROUND TO TERMINAL...AND POSSIBLY THE TWO OTHER COASTAL SITES...THUS HAVE OPTED TO INCLUDE VCSH FOR A FEW HOURS. ELSEWHERE...VFR WILL PREVAIL THROUGH ROUGHLY 06Z WITH SOUTH- SOUTHWEST WINDS AROUND 5-8KTS. WITH MODELS IN GENERAL AGREEMENT...ANTICIPATE CIGS AND VSBYS AT ALL SITES DETERIORATE AFTER 07Z DUE TO ADVECTION FOG/STRATUS. FOR NOW...ANTICIPATE LIFR/IFR CIGS...AND IFR/MVFR FOG THROUGH WEDNESDAY MORNING. SOON AFTER DAYBREAK...EXPECT CONDITIONS TO SLOWLY IMPROVE TO VFR...WITH TIGHTENED PRESSURE GRADIENT CREATING GUSTY WINDS 18-22KTS ACROSS THE ENTIRE AREA. WINDS THROUGHOUT THE PERIOD WILL REMAIN SOUTH- SOUTHWEST. TOWARDS THE END OF THE VALID PERIOD INTO THE NEXT...CONDITIONS WILL SLOWLY BEGIN TO DETERIORATE AGAIN AS A COLD FRONT BRINGS ANTICIPATED SHRA AND ISOLATED TSRA. EXTENDED OUTLOOK...COLD FRONT MOVING ACROSS THE AREA WEDNESDAY EVENING THROUGH THURSDAY MORNING COULD CREATE ISOLATED TSRA AND IFR. EXPECT VFR FRIDAY AND SATURDAY...WITH LOWERED CONFIDENCE FOR POTENTIAL IFR FOG/STRATUS SUNDAY MORNING. && .MARINE... NEAR TERM /THROUGH TONIGHT/... AS OF 1055 PM TUESDAY...THE SEA FOG THREAT CONTINUES ACROSS THE ILM WATERS. WILL CONTINUE TO INDICATE PATCHY/AREAS OF SEA FOG ACROSS THE ILM WATERS THROUGH OR JUST AFTER DAYBREAK WEDNESDAY. WITH THE LATEST AVAILABLE SST MAP OF THE ILM WATERS USING AVHRR DATA FOR THE 2 DAYS ENDING ON NOV 14TH...2 NOTEWORTHY PATCHES OF COOLER SHELF WATERS IN THE LOW 60S WERE SHOWN. ONE PATCH BETWEEN SURF CITY AND CAPE FEAR...AND OUT TO NEARLY THE FRYING PAN SHOALS BUOY...41013. AND THE 2ND PATCH...LYING ACROSS THE WATERS BETWEEN NORTH MYRTLE BEACH TO SOUTH SANTEE RIVER. THIS 2ND ONE NOT NEARLY AS PRONOUNCED AS THE 1ST. SFC DEWPOINTS IN THE MID 60S TO NEAR 70 WILL CONTINUE TO ADVECT ACROSS THESE COOLER SHELF WATERS OVERNIGHT INTO WED. THIS WILL RESULT WITH AN INCREASED POTENTIAL FOR SEA FOG TO DEVELOP AND AFFECT THE ILM WATERS...PARTICULAR ACROSS THOSE COOL WATERS. A FEW LOCAL SURF CAMS HAVE SHOWCASED THE EXISTENCE OF THE SEA FOG. AS SYNOPTIC WINDS SLOWLY VEER FROM 190-230 OVERNIGHT INTO WED...THE THREAT FOR SEA FOG WILL SLOWLY DIMINISH OR ATLEAST KEEP THE FOG FROM ADVECTING ONSHORE/INLAND. WILL INDICATE VSBY REDUCING TO 1NM OR LESS. IF ANY RECEIVED REPORTS AND/OR OBS INDICATE 1/2 NM OR LESS VSBYS...WILL THEN UPDATE AND ADVERTISE DENSE FOG. A MARINE WEATHER STATEMENT HAS BEEN ISSUED TO HIGHLIGHT THE INCREASED POTENTIAL FOR SEA FOG. HAVE MAINTAINED THE WINDS AND SEAS FORECAST FROM THE PREVIOUS FORECAST...WITH THE LATEST HRRR KEEPING WINDS ON THE LOWER SIDE OF MODEL GUIDANCE. WHICH IN TURN...PRODUCING SLIGHTLY LOWER SEAS THAN ORIGINALLY THOUGHT. SHORT TERM /WEDNESDAY THROUGH THURSDAY NIGHT/... AS OF 3 PM TUESDAY...A COLD FRONT WILL BE APPROACHING THE WATERS LATE WEDNESDAY INTO THURSDAY. SOUTHWEST WINDS WILL INCREASE THROUGH OUT THE DAY ON WEDNESDAY AND THE LOCAL SWAN MODEL IS INDICATING THE SEAS WILL REACH SMALL CRAFT CONDITIONS AROUND MIDNIGHT WEDNESDAY NIGHT-THURSDAY MORNING. AS THE FRONT PUSHES THROUGH THE COLD AIR ADVECTION WILL HELP PROVIDE AN ENVIRONMENT FOR 20 TO 25 KNOT OFF SHORE WINDS ON THURSDAY. LONG TERM /FRIDAY THROUGH SATURDAY/... AS OF 3 PM TUESDAY...POST FRONT COLD SURGE IN THE 15 TO 20 KT RANGE FRI WILL DROP CLOSER TO 10 KT BY SAT MORNING AS GRADIENT. WEAK COASTAL TROF TAKING SHAPE WILL INDUCE A MORE EASTERLY COMPONENT TO LOW LEVEL FLOW. GRADIENT REMAINS WEAK THROUGH THE END OF THE PERIOD WITH WINDS BECOMING EAST TO SOUTHEAST LATE SAT NIGHT AND SUN AS ELONGATED RIDGE AXIS SHIFTS OFFSHORE. ADVISORY WORTHY SEAS AT THE START OF THE PERIOD WILL DROP TO 3 TO 4 FT BY FRI NIGHT AND REMAIN IN THE 3 TO 4 FT RANGE THROUGH SUN. && .ILM WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... SC...NONE. NC...NONE. MARINE...NONE. && $$ SYNOPSIS...HAWKINS NEAR TERM...DOUGH SHORT TERM...HAWKINS LONG TERM...III AVIATION...LACORTE
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NWS STATE COLLEGE PA
1013 PM EST THU NOV 17 2011 .SYNOPSIS... WESTERLY WINDS WILL BRING LAKE EFFECT SNOWS TO THE SNOW BELT OF NORTHWESTERN PENNSYLVANIA TONIGHT...BUT HIGH PRESSURE WILL BUILD IN QUICKLY ON FRIDAY MORNING. THE HIGH WILL SET UP ALONG THE EAST COAST FOR THIS WEEKEND. A WEAK COLD FRONT WILL LIKELY SAG SOUTHWARD THROUGH THE AREA LATE SUNDAY. A DEVELOPING STORM SYSTEM IN THE MISSISSIPPI VALLEY COULD AFFECT CENTRAL PA EITHER TUESDAY OR WEDNESDAY OF NEXT WEEK. && .NEAR TERM /UNTIL 6 AM FRIDAY MORNING/... OOZ HRRR AND 02Z RUC CONFIRMS WHAT WE/RE SEEING ON THE REGIONAL 88D MOSAIC THIS EVENING...WHICH IS A RATHER FRAGMENTED OR CELLUAR PATTERN TO THE LAKE EFFECT AND ORORGAPHIC SNOW SHOWERS THAT WILL AFFECT THE NW MTNS OVERNIGHT...AND TO A MUCH LESSER DEGREE - THE LAUREL HIGHLANDS. COLDEST MID-LEVEL TEMPS /WITHIN THE 700-500 MB LAYER/ WILL BE EXITING TO THE NE OF THE REGION OVERNIGHT...THOUGH THE THERMAL TROUGH AT 850 MB /WITH MIN TEMPS AROUND -10C/ WILL BE CENTERED ACROSS NRN AND WESTERN PENN THROUGH 12Z FRIDAY. A FAIRLY WELL-ALIGNED BUT GRADUALLY VEERING WEST TO NW BOUNDARY LAYER FLOW WILL MAINTAIN NUMEROUS /AND BRIEFLY MDT-HVY/ SNOW SHOWERS ACROSS THE NW MTNS. ACCUMS NEAR...AND TO THE WEST OF KBFD WILL NOT ENOUGH TO WARRANT A LES ADVISORY...AND WILL BE MAINLY BETWEEN 1-2 INCHES OVER A 12-16 HOUR PERIOD. LOCALIZED 3 INCH AMOUNTS ARE POSSIBLE NEAR AND TO THE WEST OF KBFD...MAINLY TO THE NORTH OF ROUTE 6. NARROW BANDS OF LIGHTER SNOW SHOWERS ACROSS THE LAURELS WILL BRING A LIGHT COATING OF SNOW TO MANY LOCATIONS...WITH UP TO ONE INCH POSSIBLE ON A FEW OF THE RIDGES WEST OF RT 219. FOR THE SOUTHEAST TWO THIRDS OF THE REGION...EXPECT A FEW FLURRIES AND PERHAPS A BRIEF 2-5 MINUTE SNOW SHOWER THROUGH THE OVERNIGHT. MIN TEMPS TONIGHT /AROUND 20F ACROSS THE NW MTNS AND LAUREL HIGHLANDS...AND IN THE MID TO UPPER 20S THROUGHOUT THE CENTRAL AND SE VALLEYS/ WILL BE 5-6F BELOW NORMAL. THE WIND STAYS GUSTY FOR MUCH OF THE NIGHT DUE TO TIGHT P-GRAD. GUSTS BETWEEN 25-30 MPH WILL BE COMMON ACROSS THE CENTRAL AND WRN ZONES. A FEW GUSTS NEAR SNOW SHOWERS COULD RANGE UP TO 35 MPH. && .SHORT TERM /6 AM FRIDAY MORNING THROUGH FRIDAY NIGHT/... 8H TEMPS RISE 10C THROUGH THE DAYLIGHT HRS...AND PUSH ANY REMAINING LAKE EFFECT SNOW WELL TO THE NORTH IN THE EARLY MORNING. REST OF THE SHORT TERM SHOULD BE CLEAR. SFC TEMPS MIGHT ONLY REBOUND ABOUT 15F WITH SHALLOW COLD AIR STUBBORN TO GO AWAY...ESP IN THE EASTERN VALLEYS. SFC HIGH PASSES TO OUR SOUTH DURING THE DAY AND SETS UP LIKE A BERMUDA HIGH. CLEAR SKIES AND THE STUBBORN COOLER AIR IN THE EAST WILL HELP THE ERN COLD SPOTS LIKE SEG AND THV DIP INTO THE L20S. M-U20S LOOK GOOD FOR MINS ELSEWHERE ESP THE RIDGES WHERE SRLY WIND WILL KEEP GOING LIGHTLY FOR MUCH OF THE NIGHT. && .LONG TERM /SATURDAY THROUGH THURSDAY/... BROAD SOUTHWESTERLY FLOW ALOFT CONTINUES TO BE FORECAST BY THE LONG TERM MODELS THROUGH AT LEAST THE BEGINNING OF NEXT WEEK. THIS WILL KEEP TEMPERATURES NEAR TO ABOVE NORMAL THROUGH MUCH OF THE PERIOD...WITH NO SIGNIFICANT PERIODS OF ARCTIC CHILL IN SITE AS WE NOW INCLUDE THANKSGIVING DAY IN THIS FORECAST PACKAGE. SHORTWAVE ENERGY IS FORECAST TO MAKE ITS WAY EAST BY THE MIDDLE OF NEXT WEEK COMPLICATING THE UPPER FLOW PATTERN. AS THE UPPER TROUGH BUILDS OVER THE WESTERN U.S. INTO THE WEEKEND...THE SOUTHEASTERN RIDGE SHOULD PUSH WARMER AIR INTO OUR REGION BY SATURDAY. THE 850 HPA TEMPERATURES ARE PREDICTED TO BE 1SD ABOVE NORMAL LATE SATURDAY ACROSS THE NW PART OF THE STATE...AND AREA- WIDE ON SUNDAY. ANOTHER COLD FRONT APPROACHES WITH THE NEXT CHC FOR SHOWERS LATER SUNDAY INTO MONDAY. THIS FRONT IS FORECAST TO STALL OVER THE MID ATLANTIC REGION...WITH THE POTENTIAL FOR A WAVE OF LOW PRESSURE BRINGING MORE PCPN INTO THE REGION NEXT TUE/WED...BUT THE DETAILS AT THIS POINT ARE ANYTHING BUT CLEAR. && .AVIATION /03Z FRIDAY THROUGH TUESDAY/... UPPER LOW MOVES ACROSS STATE TONIGHT WITH HIGH PRESSURE MOVING IN BEHIND FOR FRI. THIS WILL BRING SNOW SHOWERS OFF OF THE LAKES THROUGH SUNRISE TO THE NW MTNS...INCLUDING VARIABLE IFR TO VFR CONDITIONS AT KBFD THROUGH THE OVERNIGHT. ELSEWHERE...THE AIRMASS IS QUITE DRY...SO EXTENT OF THE SNOW SHOWERS AND LOW CIGS WILL BE LIMITED TO THE NORTHWEST PART OF THE STATE WITH VFR ELSEWHERE. WINDS OF 10-15 MPH GUSTING TO 25 MPH WILL GRADUALLY DIMINISH THIS EVENING. PERIOD OF VFR CONDITIONS FRI MORNING THROUGH SAT NIGHT AS A SW FLOW OF MILD AIR DEVELOPS ON THE BACK SIDE OF THE HIGH. OUTLOOK... FRI-SAT...VFR. NO SIG WX. SUN...GENERALLY VFR. MVFR IN SHOWERS POSS LATE. MON-TUE...MVFR TS/SHRA/CIGS POSSIBLE. && .CTP WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... NONE. && $$ SYNOPSIS...DANGELO NEAR TERM...LAMBERT SHORT TERM...DANGELO LONG TERM...FITZGERALD/GARTNER AVIATION...RXR
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NWS STATE COLLEGE PA
412 PM EST WED NOV 16 2011 .SYNOPSIS... A COMPLICATED FRONTAL SYSTEM WILL FINALLY BE MOVING TO THE EAST TONIGHT AND COLD AIR WILL RETURN FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS. MINOR LAKE EFFECT SNOW IS EXPECTED IN THE SNOW BELT...THEN HIGH PRESSURE WILL SETTLE IN FOR THE WEEKEND. THE HIGH WILL SET UP ALONG THE EAST COAST BY EARLY NEXT WEEK. A WET BUT MILD PATTERN WILL THEN RETURN. && .NEAR TERM /UNTIL 6 AM THURSDAY MORNING/... DEW POINT IN KERI ALREADY INTO THE 30S...AND COLDER AIR ON THE WAY. WINDS NOW MAINLY NW OVER WRN PA. HRRR AND CURR RADAR TRENDS INDICATE THAT THERE IS A LIGHTER PATCH IN THE NEARLY CONSTANT RAIN SHIELD HEADING FOR THE LOWER SUSQ. THE DRIER AIR THAT HAS BEEN PULLED IN FROM THE SRN PLAINS AND THE CONSOLIDATION OF THE COLD FRONT AND WARMER/STATIONARY BOUNDARY TO OUR SOUTH IS STARTING TO WRAP THE SYSTEM UP A BIT AS IT PULLS NORTHEAST. PSEUDO DEFORMATION AREA RAIN OVER CENTRAL PA BACK TO ERN KY IS DIMINISHING AT THE SAME TIME...BUT CONTINUES TO SLIDE EASTWARD. WILL KEEP HIGH POPS IN FOR THE EVENING BUT TAPER THEM OFF RATHER QUICKLY AND BY 10 PM...ALL BUT THE FAR SE SHOULD BE DRY. TEMPS DROP BELOW FREEZING IN THE NW JUST AFTER MIDNIGHT. CLOUDS COULD HANG ON A LONG TIME IN THE WEST...THOUGH...AS WRLY UPSLOPE FLOW PRODUCES LIFT. AS IT GETS COLDER A FEW SHSN WILL PROBABLY DEVELOP OVER THE LAURELS/WRN HIGHLANDS. DO NOT EXPECT ANY MORE THAN A DUSTING TONIGHT WITH LITTLE MOISTURE AND SUBSIDENCE BATTLING THE LLVL UPSLOPE. MINS SHOULD HOLD IN THE 40S IN THE SE HALF OF THE AREA. THERE IS A TRICKY PART TO THE FORECAST THAT STARTS TONIGHT...BUT LASTS INTO THE NEXT PD. && .SHORT TERM /6 AM THURSDAY MORNING THROUGH THURSDAY NIGHT/... THE FORECAST PROBLEM IS WHETHER A SECONDARY WAVE ON THE OLD FRONT DEVELOPS SOON ENOUGH AND CLOSE ENOUGH TO THE LOCAL AREA /BUT TO THE SOUTH/ TO PRODUCE LIGHT PCPN BACK INTO THE COOLING AIR OVER THE REGION...ESP THE SE. THE WAVE HAS BEEN HINTED AT FOR A FEW DAYS NOW...SO CONFIDENCE HAS INCREASED SLIGHTLY...BUT THE CUTOFF OF ANY PRECIP LOOKS RATHER SHARP. IT LOOKS LIKE MOST OF THE POSSIBLE PCPN WOULD STAY TO THE S/E OF THE AREA BUT MAKES A CLOSE PASS. BUFKIT SOUNDINGS FROM NAM DO LOOK PLENTY COLD FOR SNOW...BUT IT WOULD BE FALLING INTO UBER-FREEZING AIR AND DURING THE DAYLIGHT HOURS. WILL CALL IT A CHC OF RAIN/SNOW SHOWERS FOR NOW IN THE FAR LWR SUSQ AS IT IS WORTH A MENTION AT THIS POINT. TEMPS HARDLY MOVE ON THURS UNDER COLD ADVECTION. AN EASIER PART TO THE FCST IN THE SHORT TERM IS THAT WE WILL DOUBTLESSLY SEE LAKE EFFECT CLOUDS/FLURRIES IN THE WEST...AND ACCUMS IN THE SNOW BELT OF WARREN CO. POTTER AND MCKEAN COULD ALSO PICK UP AN INCH OR SO THURSDAY INTO THURS NIGHT. THE AXIS OF THE UPPER TROUGH CROSSES LAKE ERIE MID-DAY THURSDAY AND SHOULD DRIVE THE HEAVIEST SNOWS INLAND DURING THE LATE DAY AND INTO THE OVERNIGHT. DURATION OF THE BEST BANDS WOULD PROBABLY BE ONLY UNTIL FRIDAY MORNING...AS 8H THERMAL TROUGH OF -12C AIR PASSES BY 12Z FRI. LOCAL PROGRAM GIVES BAND OF AROUND 80 MI EVEN WITH THE FAVORABLE 280-290 FETCH AND DEEP 10KFT INVERSION. WIND SPEEDS ARE ONLY 30KTS...BUT ARE WELL-ALIGNED VERTICALLY. STORM TOTALS MIGHT GET INTO THE 3-4 INCH RANGE OVER 18-20 HRS. THIS IS NOT QUITE WORTH AN ADVY YET...ESP SINCE IT IS A LATE 2ND/3RD PD EVENT. && .LONG TERM /FRIDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY/... UPPER TROF EXITING THE EASTERN U.S. AT THE START OF THE PERIOD WILL TRANSITION TO BROAD SOUTHWESTERLY FLOW WHICH IS THEN FORECAST TO DOMINATE MUCH OF THE LONG TERM PERIOD. FLOW IS FORECAST TO TURN MORE WESTERLY BY THE END OF THE PERIOD AS ENERGY OVER THE WESTERN U.S. WORKS ITS WAY EAST. AS THE UPPER TROUGH BUILDS OVER THE WESTERN US LATER THIS WEEK...THE SOUTHEASTERN RIDGE SHOULD PUSH WARMER AIR INTO OUR REGION SATURDAY. THE 850 HPA TEMPERATURES ARE PREDICTED TO BE 1SD ABOVE NORMAL LATE SATURDAY ACROSS THE NW PART OF THE STATE...AND AREA- WIDE ON SUNDAY. ANOTHER COLD FRONT APPROACHES WITH THE NEXT CHC FOR SHOWERS LATER SUNDAY INTO MONDAY. THIS FRONT IS FORECAST TO STALL OVER THE MID ATLANTIC REGION...WITH THE POTENTIAL FOR WAVES OF LOW PRESSURE TO BRING MORE PCPN INTO THE REGION NEXT MONDAY INTO TUE...BUT THE DETAILS AT THIS POINT ARE ANYTHING BUT CLEAR. && .AVIATION /21Z WEDNESDAY THROUGH MONDAY/... LOW CIGS STARTING TO LIFT AS THE COLDER AND DRIER AIR UNDERCUTS THE MOISTURE WHICH IS GETTING CUT OFF FROM THE GOMEX ALREADY. IMPROVEMENT MAY BE SLOW IN KJST WITH WINDS WNW IN A GOOD UPSLOPE ORIENTATION. SHSN MAY START IN KJST TONIGHT...BUT WILL KEEP FCST BETTER THAN VFR FOR NOW. RAIN SHIELD SHOULD GRADUALLY SHRINK AND SLIDE TO THE EAST PER TRENDS IN RADAR MOSAIC AND MESO MDLS. SLOW MOVEMENT TO THE SFC TROUGH TO THE SE WILL KEEP LIGHT RAIN GOING FOR MOST OF THE EVENING IN THE SE. LITTLE/NO PRECIP EXPECTED OVERNIGHT...BUT A SECONDARY WAVE MAY DEVELOP TONIGHT TO OUR SOUTH AND THROW SOME COLDER PRECIP BACK IN FROM THE SE. LOW POSS AT THIS POINT...AND AT THE OUTER REACHES OF THIS 18Z 24HR TAF PD...BUT SOMETHING TO WATCH FOR ON THURS. UPSLOPE IN THE WEST AND OFF LAKE ERIE WILL GENERATE LAKE EFFECT THURS AFTN INTO FRI AM VCTY KBFD. OUTLOOK... FRI-SAT...VFR. NO SIG WX. SUN...GENERALLY VFR. MVFR POSS LATE. MON...MVFR TS/SHRA/CIGS. && .CTP WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... NONE. && $$ SYNOPSIS...DANGELO/STEINBUGL NEAR TERM...DANGELO SHORT TERM...DANGELO LONG TERM...DEVOIR/GARTNER AVIATION...DANGELO
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NWS STATE COLLEGE PA
258 PM EST WED NOV 16 2011 .SYNOPSIS... A COMPLICATED FRONTAL SYSTEM WILL FINALLY BE MOVING TO THE EAST TONIGHT AND COLD AIR WILL RETURN FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS. MINOR LAKE EFFECT SNOW IS EXPECTED IN THE SNOW BELT...THEN HIGH PRESSURE WILL SETTLE IN FOR THE WEEKEND. THE HIGH WILL SET UP ALONG THE EAST COAST BY EARLY NEXT WEEK. A WET BUT MILD PATTERN WILL THEN RETURN. && .NEAR TERM /THROUGH TONIGHT/... DEW POINT IN KERI ALREADY INTO THE 30S...AND COLDER AIR ON THE WAY. WINDS NOW MAINLY NW OVER WRN PA. HRRR AND CURR RADAR TRENDS INDICATE THAT THERE IS A LIGHTER PATCH IN THE NEARLY CONSTANT RAIN SHIELD HEADING FOR THE LOWER SUSQ. THE DRIER AIR THAT HAS BEEN PULLED IN FROM THE SRN PLAINS AND THE CONSOLIDATION OF THE COLD FRONT AND WARMER/STATIONARY BOUNDARY TO OUR SOUTH IS STARTING TO WRAP THE SYSTEM UP A BIT AS IT PULLS NORTHEAST. PSEUDO DEFORMATION AREA RAIN OVER CENTRAL PA BACK TO ERN KY IS DIMINISHING AT THE SAME TIME...BUT CONTINUES TO SLIDE EASTWARD. WILL KEEP HIGH POPS IN FOR THE EVENING BUT TAPER THEM OFF RATHER QUICKLY AND BY 10 PM...ALL BUT THE FAR SE SHOULD BE DRY. TEMPS DROP BELOW FREEZING IN THE NW JUST AFTER MIDNIGHT. CLOUDS COULD HANG ON A LONG TIME IN THE WEST...THOUGH...AS WRLY UPSLOPE FLOW PRODUCES LIFT. AS IT GETS COLDER A FEW SHSN WILL PROBABLY DEVELOP OVER THE LAURELS/WRN HIGHLANDS. DO NOT EXPECT ANY MORE THAN A DUSTING TONIGHT WITH LITTLE MOISTURE AND SUBSIDENCE BATTLING THE LLVL UPSLOPE. MINS SHOULD HOLD IN THE 40S IN THE SE HALF OF THE AREA. THERE IS A TRICKY PART TO THE FORECAST THAT STARTS TONIGHT...BUT LASTS INTO THE NEXT PD. && .SHORT TERM /THURSDAY THROUGH THURSDAY NIGHT/... THE FORECAST PROBLEM IS WHETHER A SECONDARY WAVE ON THE OLD FRONT DEVELOPS SOON ENOUGH AND CLOSE ENOUGH TO THE LOCAL AREA /BUT TO THE SOUTH/ TO PRODUCE LIGHT PCPN BACK INTO THE COOLING AIR OVER THE REGION...ESP THE SE. THE WAVE HAS BEEN HINTED AT FOR A FEW DAYS NOW...SO CONFIDENCE HAS INCREASED SLIGHTLY...BUT THE CUTOFF OF ANY PRECIP LOOKS RATHER SHARP. IT LOOKS LIKE MOST OF THE POSSIBLE PCPN WOULD STAY TO THE S/E OF THE AREA BUT MAKES A CLOSE PASS. BUFKIT SOUNDINGS FROM NAM DO LOOK PLENTY COLD FOR SNOW...BUT IT WOULD BE FALLING INTO UBER-FREEZING AIR AND DURING THE DAYLIGHT HOURS. WILL CALL IT A CHC OF RAIN/SNOW SHOWERS FOR NOW IN THE FAR LWR SUSQ AS IT IS WORTH A MENTION AT THIS POINT. TEMPS HARDLY MOVE ON THURS UNDER COLD ADVECTION. AN EASIER PART TO THE FCST IN THE SHORT TERM IS THAT WE WILL DOUBTLESSLY SEE LAKE EFFECT CLOUDS/FLURRIES IN THE WEST...AND ACCUMS IN THE SNOW BELT OF WARREN CO. POTTER AND MCKEAN COULD ALSO PICK UP AN INCH OR SO THURSDAY INTO THURS NIGHT. THE AXIS OF THE UPPER TROUGH CROSSES LAKE ERIE MID-DAY THURSDAY AND SHOULD DRIVE THE HEAVIEST SNOWS INLAND DURING THE LATE DAY AND INTO THE OVERNIGHT. DURATION OF THE BEST BANDS WOULD PROBABLY BE ONLY UNTIL FRIDAY MORNING...AS 8H THERMAL TROUGH OF -12C AIR PASSES BY 12Z FRI. LOCAL PROGRAM GIVES BAND OF AROUND 80 MI EVEN WITH THE FAVORABLE 280-290 FETCH AND DEEP 10KFT INVERSION. WIND SPEEDS ARE ONLY 30KTS...BUT ARE WELL-ALIGNED VERTICALLY. STORM TOTALS MIGHT GET INTO THE 3-4 INCH RANGE OVER 18-20 HRS. THIS IS NOT QUITE WORTH AN ADVY YET...ESP SINCE IT IS A LATE 2ND/3RD PD EVENT. && .LONG TERM /FRIDAY THROUGH TUESDAY/... SOUTHWESTERLY FLOW ALOFT WILL DOMINATE MUCH OF THE LONG TERM PERIOD AS UPPER LOW SETS OVER CENTRAL CANADA AND UPPER RIDGING STRETCHES OVER THE WRN ATLANTIC AND EASTERN CARIBBEAN. ONE UPPER TROF MOVES THROUGH THE NORTHEAST THURSDAY INTO FRIDAY...THEN A SERIES OF WAVE MOVE THROUGH LATE IN THE PERIOD TURNING THE FLOW MORE ZONAL EARLY NEXT WEEK. TEMPERATURES MODERATE BACK TOWARD NORMAL FRIDAY. AS THE UPPER TROUGH BUILDS OVER THE WESTERN US LATER THIS WEEK...THE SOUTHEASTERN RIDGE SHOULD PUSH WARMER AIR INTO OUR REGION SATURDAY. THE 850 HPA TEMPERATURES ARE PREDICTED TO BE 1SD ABOVE NORMAL LATE SATURDAY ACROSS THE NW PART OF THE STATE...AND AREA- WIDE ON SUNDAY. ANOTHER COLD FRONT APPROACHES WITH THE NEXT CHC FOR SHOWERS LATER SUNDAY INTO MONDAY. THIS FRONT IS FORECAST TO STALL OVER THE MID ATLANTIC REGION...WITH THE POTENTIAL FOR WAVES OF LOW PRESSURE TO BRING MORE PCPN INTO THE REGION NEXT MONDAY INTO TUE...BUT THE DETAILS AT THIS POINT ARE ANYTHING BUT CLEAR. && .AVIATION /19Z WEDNESDAY THROUGH MONDAY/... LOW CIGS STRTING TO LIFT AS THE COLDER AND DRIER AIR UNDERCUTS THE MOISTURE WHICH IS GETTING CUT OFF FROM THE GOMEX ALREADY. IMPROVEMENT MAY BE SLOW IN KJST WITH WINDS WNW IN A GOOD UPSLOPE ORIENTATION. SHSN MAY START IN KJST TONIGHT...BUT WILL KEEP FCST BETTER THAN VFR FOR NOW. RAIN SHIELD SHOULD GRADUALLY SHRINK AND SLIDE TO THE EAST PER TRENDS IN RADAR MOSAIC AND MESO MDLS. SLOW MOVEMENT TO THE SFC TROUGH TO THE SE WILL KEEP LIGHT RAIN GOING FOR MOST OF THE EVENING IN THE SE. LITTLE/NO PRECIP EXPECTED OVERNIGHT...BUT A SECONDARY WAVE MAY DEVELOP TONIGHT TO OUR SOUTH AND THROW SOME COLDER PRECIP BACK IN FROM THE SE. LOW POSS AT THIS POINT...AND AT THE OUTER REACHES OF THIS 18Z 24HR TAF PD...BUT SOMETHING TO WATCH FOR ON THURS. UPSLOPE IN THE WEST AND OFF LAKE ERIE WILL GENERATE LAKE EFFECT THURS AFTN INTO FRI AM VCTY KBFD. OUTLOOK... FRI-SAT...VFR. NO SIG WX. SUN...GENERALLY VFR. MVFR POSS LATE. MON...MVFR TS/SHRA/CIGS. && .CTP WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... NONE. && $$ SYNOPSIS...DANGELO/STEINBUGL NEAR TERM...DANGELO SHORT TERM...DANGELO LONG TERM...DEVOIR/GARTNER AVIATION...DANGELO
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS GRAND RAPIDS MI
1150 PM EST THU NOV 17 2011 LATEST UPDATE...AVIATION... .SYNOPSIS...(315 PM EST THU NOV 17 2011) THE LAKE EFFECT SNOW SHOWERS WILL GRADUALLY DIMINISH THIS EVENING. HIGH PRESSURE OVER THE MIDDLE MISSISSIPPI VALLEY WILL STRENGTHEN AS IT BUILDS EAST INTO THE CENTRAL APPALACHIANS ON FRIDAY. A GUSTY SOUTHWESTERLY FLOW WILL SETUP HERE IN LOWER MICHIGAN DURING THE DAY AND PERSIST INTO SATURDAY. A COLD FRONT WILL SLIP SOUTHEASTWARD THROUGH THE REGION SATURDAY NIGHT PRODUCING SOME RAIN SHOWERS. COOLER AIR WILL THEN FILTER IN FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE WEEKEND. && .SHORT TERM...(315 PM EST THU NOV 17 2011) (TONIGHT THROUGH SATURDAY NIGHT)... THE MAIN CHALLENGE IN THE SHORT TERM DEALS WITH THE WIND GUSTS ON FRIDAY. BUFKIT OVERVIEWS SHOW MIXING HEIGHTS TAPPING INTO THE 40 KNOT WIND RANGE ALONG THE LAKESHORE DURING THE DAY ON FRIDAY. ALSO FSL RUC DATA SUGGESTS WINDS OVER 40 KNOTS MOVING INLAND DURING THE DAY. PROFILER DATA FROM THE LOWER PLAINS SHOWS THE LOW LEVEL JET FORMING AND IT IS ALREADY ABOUT 10 KNOTS STRONGER THAN FORECASTED. WILL ISSUE A WIND ADVISORY FOR FRIDAY FROM 12Z TO 00Z. MIXING HEIGHTS LOWER DURING THE EVENING AND THAT SHOULD ALLOW FOR THE WIND TO DECREASE. THE TIMING OF THE SHOWERS LATER SATURDAY INTO SATURDAY LOOKS GOOD. I DID DELAY THE SHOWERS SLIGHTLY GIVEN THE SOMEWHAT SLOWER TREND OF THE FRONTAL PASSAGE. AS A RESULT I TOOK OUT THE MENTION OF SHOWERS PRIOR TO 18Z SAT. A DECENT WARMUP IS IN STORE FOR THE REGION ON SATURDAY. LOW LEVEL THERMAL PROFILES SUPPORT HIGHS TOPPING 50 DEGREES. && .LONG TERM...(315 PM EST THU NOV 17 2011) (SUNDAY THROUGH THANKSGIVING DAY) THE LONG TERM PORTION OF THE FCST LOOKS RATHER TRANQUIL...ESPECIALLY BY MID-LATE NOVEMBER STANDARDS FOR MICHIGAN. WE WILL HAVE TO WATCH A POSSIBLE SYSTEM THAT COULD STILL IMPACT AT LEAST A PORTION OF THE AREA TUE INTO TUE NIGHT. FRONTAL SYSTEM MOVING THROUGH SAT/SAT NIGHT STILL APPEARS TO JUST CLEAR THE CWFA BY 12Z SUN. DRY NE FLOW AROUND THE INCOMING SFC RIDGE AND NOT SO COLD TEMPS /H850 TEMPS 0 TO -2C/ WILL BRING QUIET AND SEASONABLE TEMPS TO THE AREA. WE ARE EXPECTING THIS HIGH TO RULE ACROSS THE AREA AT LEAST THROUGH MON. FOR NOW...WE ARE DISCOUNTING THE 12Z GFS BRINGING LIGHT PCPN TO THE AREA. IT SEEMS TO BE TRYING TO PHASE SRN STREAM MOISTURE WITH A WEAK NRN STREAM TROUGH. THE SETUP LOOKS OVERDONE WITH MOISTURE THIS FAR NORTH AND NOT FAVORABLE FOR PCPN ON MON FOR NOW. THE TRENDS IN THE MODELS ARE TO HAVE THE SYSTEM FOR TUE/WED A LITTLE FURTHER NORTH THAN WAS EXPECTED 24 HOURS AGO. WE CAN NOT DISCOUNT THIS IDEA EXPECTING IT MAY BE A LITTLE STRONGER THAN WHAT IS BEING SAMPLED NOW. HOWEVER UNLESS THERE IS GOOD PHASING BETWEEN THE TWO STREAMS...IT SHOULD CONTINUE TO MAINLY MISS THE AREA. THE 00Z EURO WAS QUITE THE OUTLIER WITH A CLOSED NRN STREAM LOW PHASING WITH THE SRN STREAM...AND BRINGING A LOT OF PCPN TO THE AREA TUE/WED. THE NEW EURO HAS BACKED AWAY FROM THAT THINKING...AND IS CLOSER TO THE ENSEMBLES. IN COORDINATION WITH SURROUNDING OFFICES...WE HAVE ADDED A SMALL CHC OF PCPN TUE AND TUE NIGHT DOWN SOUTH FOR NOW...AND WILL CONTINUE TO MONITOR THE TRENDS. ALL OF THE MODELS HAVE A FAIRLY GOOD RIDGE THEN BUILDING OVER THE AREA FOR WED AND THANKSGIVING DAY AS ANOTHER STRONG TROUGH TAKES SHAPE ALONG THE WEST COAST. THIS SHOULD ALLOW FOR MORE SEASONABLE TO SLIGHTLY ABOVE AVERAGE TEMPS FOR NOVEMBER ALONG WITH DRY CONDITIONS FOR THE FIRST PART OF THE HOLIDAY TRAVEL PERIOD FOR MICHIGAN. && .AVIATION...(1150 PM EST THU NOV 17 2011) VFR CONDITIONS THROUGH FRIDAY EVENING...BUT STRONG WINDS WILL AFFECT AVIATION. WINDS WILL GO SOUTHWEST THEN SOUTH ON FRIDAY MORNING AND INCREASE TO NEAR 20 KNOTS WITH GUSTS OVER 30 KNOTS BY 18Z FRIDAY. SOME GUSTS TO 40 KNOTS ARE POSSIBLE. THESE STRONG WINDS WILL CONTINUE INTO FRIDAY EVENING THEN DIMINISH OVERNIGHT. && .MARINE...(315 PM EST THU NOV 17 2011) THE ARRIVAL OF A LOW LEVEL JET COUPLED WITH INCREASED MIXING ON FRIDAY SUPPORTS KEEPING THE GALE WARNING FOR FRIDAY. MIXING HEIGHTS SUGGEST THE NEARSHORE ZONES WILL REACH INTO THE 40 KNOT RANGE OF WINDS FRIDAY. THE LOW LEVEL JET AND INCREASED MIXING PERSISTS THROUGH 00Z SAT...THUS I WILL KEEP THE WARNING GOING THROUGH MUCH OF THE NIGHT. && .HYDROLOGY...(315 PM EST WED NOV 16 2011) ANY QPF THROUGH THE PERIOD IS FORECASTED TO BE RELATIVELY LIGHT. AS A RESULT... NO HYDRO ISSUES ANTICIPATED. && .GRR WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... MI...WIND ADVISORY FOR THE LAKESHORE COUNTIES FRIDAY. LM...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY ALL NEARSHORE ZONES THROUGH TONIGHT. GALE WARNING FRIDAY INTO FRIDAY NIGHT ALL NEARSHORE ZONES. && $$ SYNOPSIS: MJS SHORT TERM: MJS LONG TERM: NJJ AVIATION: OSTUNO MARINE: MJS HYDROLOGY: MJS
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS BUFFALO NY
348 AM EST FRI NOV 18 2011 .SYNOPSIS... A CHILLY AIRMASS WILL REMAIN IN PLACE TODAY WITH LAKE EFFECT SNOW EAST OF THE LAKES GRADUALLY ENDING. OUTSIDE OF LAKE EFFECT IT WILL BE PARTLY SUNNY AND BREEZY. DRY CONDITIONS WILL LAST INTO SATURDAY WITH HIGH PRESSURE NEARBY OVER THE EASTERN SEABOARD. A SOUTHWEST FLOW OF WARMER AIR WILL BRING A QUICK REBOUND IN TEMPERATURES AS THEY RECOVER TO A LITTLE ABOVE AVERAGE FOR THE WEEKEND. A COLD FRONT WILL BRING A CHANCE OF A FEW LIGHT SHOWERS ON SUNDAY AND WILL USHER IN COOLER AND SEASONABLE TEMPERATURES FOR THE START OF NEXT WEEK. && .NEAR TERM /THROUGH TONIGHT/... MAIN CONCERN THROUGH THIS MORNING CONTINUES TO REVOLVE AROUND LAKE EFFECT. OFF LAKE ERIE...JUST A LARGE AREA OF VERY LIGHT FLURRIES REMAINS EARLY THIS MORNING ACROSS MUCH OF THE WESTERN SOUTHERN TIER. LATEST HIGH RESOLUTION HRRR MODEL RUN SUGGESTS WE MAY SEE A VERY MODEST INCREASE IN SNOW SHOWERS FROM 12Z-15Z ACROSS THE SOUTHERN TIER AND PORTIONS OF SOUTHERN ERIE AND WYOMING COUNTIES. THIS APPEARS TO HAVE SOME VALIDITY WITH IR SATELLITE STILL SHOWING PLENTY OF LAKE EFFECT CLOUDS ALL THE WAY WEST TO CLEVELAND...AND WITH BOUNDARY LAYER FLOW BACKING TO THE WSW THIS MORNING FETCH WILL INCREASE. STILL...EXPECT NOTHING MORE THAN FLURRIES AND SCATTERED SNOW SHOWERS WITH ANY ADDITIONAL ACCUMULATION LESS THAN AN INCH. THIS ACTIVITY SHOULD END COMPLETELY BY LATE MORNING AS INVERSION HEIGHTS CRASH AND DRY AIR BECOMES TOO DIFFICULT TO OVERCOME. OFF LAKE ONTARIO...AN IMPRESSIVE PLUME AT 0830Z EXTENDS INTO MUCH OF OSWEGO COUNTY WITH THE BEST ORGANIZATION WE HAVE SEEN ALL NIGHT. IR SATELLITE TELLS THE STORY WITH THIS BURST OF INTENSITY CORRESPONDING TO THE PASSAGE OF A BLOB OF DEEPER MOISTURE WITH ROOTS ACROSS THE UPPER GREAT LAKES. IR SATELLITE IMAGERY CONTINUES TO SHOW AN UPSTREAM CONNECTION TO GEORGIAN BAY...AND THIS SHOULD PRODUCE SOME NICE SNOWFALL RATES ACROSS OSWEGO COUNTY THROUGH EARLY TO MID MORNING WITH OCCASIONAL 1-2 INCH PER HOUR BURSTS. BY DAYBREAK EXPECT THE MAIN FOCUS OF THIS BAND TO BE ACROSS THE NORTHERN HALF OF OSWEGO COUNTY EXTENDING INTO THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF LEWIS COUNTY NEAR OSCEOLA. THIS LAST GASP HOLDS PROMISE TO GET SNOWFALL AMOUNTS UP TO WARNING CRITERIA...WITH ANOTHER 2-4 INCHES THROUGH LATE MORNING BRINGING STORM TOTALS TO 6-9 INCHES IN THE MOST PERSISTENT BANDS. BY MID TO LATE MORNING THE BOUNDARY LAYER FLOW WILL BEGIN TO BACK MORE WSW...WHICH WILL CARRY THE LAKE BAND NORTH ACROSS THE TUG HILL AND SOUTHERN JEFFERSON COUNTY. AT THE SAME TIME...INVERSION HEIGHTS WILL BE COMING DOWN AND MOISTURE DECREASING...SO EXPECT A RAPID WEAKENING TREND AFTER ABOUT 15Z. THE BAND SHOULD DISSIPATE ALTOGETHER BY EARLY AFTERNOON AS THE CRASHING INVERSION AND DECREASING MOISTURE BECOME TOO MUCH TO OVERCOME. OTHERWISE AREAS OUTSIDE OF LAKE EFFECT WILL SEE PLENTY OF SUNSHINE TODAY...AND EVEN LAKE EFFECT AREAS SHOULD SEE SOME SUNSHINE THIS AFTERNOON AFTER THE LAKE CLOUDS BEGIN TO DISSIPATE. STEADY WARM AIR ADVECTION WILL BEGIN...BUT WILL BE TOO LATE TO BOOST TEMPS MUCH WITH THE LOWER ELEVATIONS REACHING THE LOWER 40S WITH MID TO UPPER 30S ACROSS HIGHER TERRAIN. A BRISK WIND WILL KEEP A WIND CHILL IN THE AIR AS WELL. TONIGHT HIGH PRESSURE WILL BUILD ACROSS THE MID ATLANTIC STATES. THE SOUTHWEST RETURN FLOW WILL INCREASE ACROSS THE LOWER LAKES ON THE WESTERN PERIPHERY OF THIS HIGH...WITH STEADY WARM AIR ADVECTION. ON THE LAKE PLAINS BOUNDARY LAYER WINDS WILL REMAIN MIXED...WHICH WILL ALLOW FOR STEADY OR SLOWLY RISING TEMPS AFTER EVENING LOWS IN THE 30S. SOME OF THE MORE SHELTERED INLAND VALLEYS WILL STILL BE ABLE TO PARTIALLY DECOUPLE AND DROP OFF INTO THE 20S ONCE AGAIN. EXPECT A FEW PERIODS OF MID/HIGH CLOUD COVER WITH MOST AREAS PARTLY CLOUDY OVERNIGHT...EXCEPT FOR THE NORTH COUNTRY WHERE THICKER MID LEVEL CLOUD ALONG THE RETREATING WARM FRONT MAY END UP PRODUCING A MOSTLY CLOUDY NIGHT. && .SHORT TERM /SATURDAY THROUGH SUNDAY NIGHT/... HIGH PRESSURE CENTERED OFF THE ATLANTIC COAST WILL BRING DRY WEATHER ON SATURDAY. WARM AIR ADVECTION ASSOCIATED WITH A POTENT LOW LEVEL JET WILL BRING AN INCREASE IN MID LEVEL CLOUDS DURING THE AFTERNOON...ESPECIALLY FOR AREAS NEAR LAKE ONTARIO. BUT...RELATIVELY DRY AIR IN THE LOWER LEVELS SHOULD PRECLUDE THE DEVELOPMENT OF ANY RAIN SHOWERS. AFTERNOON TEMPERATURES WILL HOVER AROUND 50...BUT A MODEST SOUTHERLY FLOW WILL PUT A CHILL IN THE AIR. THE LATEST BUFKIT TEMPERATURE PROFILES SUGGESTS THAT THE PRESENCE OF A LOW LEVEL INVERSION SHOULD PREVENT THE TRANSFER OF HIGHER WINDS ALOFT (ASSOCIATED WITH THE LOW LEVEL JET) DOWN TO THE SURFACE. LOW PRESSURE THAT WILL BE MOVING OUT OF THE CENTRAL PLAINS SATURDAY AFTERNOON IS FORECAST TO LIFT NORTH OF THE CENTRAL GREAT LAKES SATURDAY NIGHT...THEN TRACK ACROSS SOUTHERN QUEBEC SUNDAY. ANOTHER LOW LEVEL JET ADVANCING AHEAD OF THE SURFACE LOW WILL ADVECT INCREASING LOW LEVEL MOISTURE ACROSS THE CWA SATURDAY NIGHT. THIS WILL ALLOW SCATTERED RAIN SHOWERS TO SPREAD EAST ACROSS THE AREA OVERNIGHT. A COLD FRONT TRAILING SOUTH OF THE SURFACE LOW WILL CROSS WESTERN AND CENTRAL NEW YORK SUNDAY AFTERNOON. A FEW MORE RAIN SHOWERS WILL ACCOMPANY THE FRONTAL PASSAGE...BUT AVAILABLE MOISTURE WILL BE RATHER LIMITED...SO QPF SHOULD REMAIN UNDER A TENTH OF AN INCH. THE PROJECTED PATH OF THE LOW COULD RESULT IN RATHER WINDY CONDITIONS ON SUNDAY...ESPECIALLY IF THE NAM`S TREND OF A LOWER SURFACE PRESSURE VERIFIES. THE NAM AND GFS ALSO SHOWS FAIRLY IMPRESSIVE ISALLOBARIC PRESSURE RISES SETTING UP JUST TO OUR NORTHWEST DURING THE AFTERNOON AS COLDER AIR ADVECTS IN BEHIND THE FRONT. BASED ON THESE TRENDS...WIND GUSTS MAY APPROACH ADVISORY CRITERIA ON SUNDAY ACROSS THE NIAGARA FRONTIER AND LOWER GENESEE VALLEY. HIGH PRESSURE BUILDING IN BEHIND THE DEPARTED COLD FRONT WILL BRING DRY CONDITIONS SUNDAY NIGHT ALONG WITH DIMINISHING WINDS. LAKE EFFECT PCPN BEHIND THE FRONT IS NOT EXPECTED TO BE AN ISSUE AT THIS TIME AS LOW LEVEL MOISTURE WILL BE LIMITED AND THERE WILL BE PLENTY OF DIRECTIONAL SHEAR. && .LONG TERM /MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY/... UNCERTAINTY CREEPS INTO THE FORECAST BY MONDAY AS TIMING BETWEEN THE MAJOR MODELS START TO FALL APART. GFS/GEM SWING A NORTHERN STREAM SHORTWAVE ACROSS THE GREAT LAKES WHILE DEVELOPING A SURFACE TROUGH ACROSS THE SOUTHERN PLAINS TO THE OHIO VALLEY. ECMWF HOLDS THE DOME OF HIGH PRESSURE OVER THE REGION LONGER...ESSENTIALLY DEFLECTING THE ABOVE MENTIONED SYSTEMS AROUND IT/S PERIPHERY AND AWAY FROM WESTERN NEW YORK. THIS PHASE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE MODELS HOLDS INTO THE MID WEEK MAKING ANY EXACT PREDICTIONS VERY DICEY. GIVEN THE LEVEL OF UNCERTAINTY...WILL ELECT TO CONTINUE TRENDING TOWARDS THE GENERIC HPC BLEND THAT KEEPS CHANCE POPS IN FOR MUCH OF THE WEEK NEXT WEEK WHICH TEMPERATURES NEAR NORMAL FOR LATE NOVEMBER WITH HIGHS IN THE 40S AND LOWS IN THE LOW TO MID 30S ACROSS MOST LOCALES. && .AVIATION /09Z FRIDAY THROUGH TUESDAY/... LIGHT LAKE EFFECT SNOW SHOWERS WILL CONTINUE TO BRING SPOTTY MVFR CONDITIONS ACROSS THE WESTERN SOUTHERN TIER THROUGH MID MORNING. EAST OF LAKE ONTARIO A MORE ORGANIZED BAND OF LAKE EFFECT SNOW WILL BRING LOCAL IFR CONDITIONS IN AREAS BETWEEN KART AND KSYR THROUGH LATE MORNING BEFORE DISSIPATING BY EARLY AFTERNOON. OTHERWISE VFR CONDITIONS WILL PREVAIL. OUTLOOK... SATURDAY...MAINLY VFR. SUNDAY...MAINLY VFR WITH A CHANCE OF SHOWERS. MONDAY...MAINLY VFR. TUESDAY...MAINLY VFR WITH CHANCE OF SHOWERS. && .MARINE... A STRONG PRESSURE GRADIENT WILL REMAIN IN PLACE BETWEEN HIGH PRESSURE OVER THE SOUTHEAST STATES AND SEVERAL WAVES OF LOW PRESSURE OVER THE UPPER GREAT LAKES AND SOUTHEAST CANADA. THIS WILL KEEP HIGH END SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY CONDITIONS GOING RIGHT THROUGH THE WEEKEND. MODERATE TO STRONG WESTERLIES WILL CONTINUE TODAY AND GRADUALLY BACK TO THE SOUTHWEST THEN SSW TONIGHT AND CONTINUE AT 20-30 KNOTS. THE MODERATE TO STRONG SOUTHWEST WINDS WILL CONTINUE RIGHT THROUGH SUNDAY BEFORE A COLD FRONT SHIFTS WINDS TO THE NORTHWEST SUNDAY NIGHT. HIGH PRESSURE WILL BUILD OVER THE REGION MONDAY AND FINALLY BRING AN END TO THE GUSTY WINDS. && .BUF WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... NY...LAKE EFFECT SNOW WARNING UNTIL 11 AM EST THIS MORNING FOR NYZ006. LAKE EFFECT SNOW ADVISORY UNTIL 8 AM EST THIS MORNING FOR NYZ005. LAKE EFFECT SNOW ADVISORY UNTIL 11 AM EST THIS MORNING FOR NYZ008. MARINE...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY UNTIL 6 AM EST SUNDAY FOR LEZ020-040-041. SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY UNTIL 6 PM EST SATURDAY FOR LOZ042>045. && $$ SYNOPSIS...HITCHCOCK NEAR TERM...HITCHCOCK SHORT TERM...TJP LONG TERM...TJP AVIATION...HITCHCOCK MARINE...HITCHCOCK
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS STATE COLLEGE PA
100 AM EST FRI NOV 18 2011 .SYNOPSIS... WESTERLY WINDS WILL BRING LAKE EFFECT SNOWS TO THE SNOW BELT OF NORTHWESTERN PENNSYLVANIA TONIGHT...BUT HIGH PRESSURE WILL BUILD IN QUICKLY ON FRIDAY MORNING. THE HIGH WILL SET UP ALONG THE EAST COAST FOR THIS WEEKEND. A WEAK COLD FRONT WILL LIKELY SAG SOUTHWARD THROUGH THE AREA LATE SUNDAY. A DEVELOPING STORM SYSTEM IN THE MISSISSIPPI VALLEY COULD AFFECT CENTRAL PA EITHER TUESDAY OR WEDNESDAY OF NEXT WEEK. && .NEAR TERM /UNTIL 6 AM THIS MORNING/... OOZ HRRR AND 02Z RUC CONFIRMS WHAT WE/RE SEEING ON THE REGIONAL 88D MOSAIC THIS EVENING...WHICH IS A RATHER FRAGMENTED OR CELLUAR PATTERN TO THE LAKE EFFECT AND ORORGAPHIC SNOW SHOWERS THAT WILL AFFECT THE NW MTNS OVERNIGHT...AND TO A MUCH LESSER DEGREE - THE LAUREL HIGHLANDS. COLDEST MID-LEVEL TEMPS /WITHIN THE 700-500 MB LAYER/ WILL BE EXITING TO THE NE OF THE REGION OVERNIGHT...THOUGH THE THERMAL TROUGH AT 850 MB /WITH MIN TEMPS AROUND -10C/ WILL BE CENTERED ACROSS NRN AND WESTERN PENN THROUGH 12Z FRIDAY. A FAIRLY WELL-ALIGNED BUT GRADUALLY VEERING WEST TO NW BOUNDARY LAYER FLOW WILL MAINTAIN NUMEROUS /AND BRIEFLY MDT-HVY/ SNOW SHOWERS ACROSS THE NW MTNS. ACCUMS NEAR...AND TO THE WEST OF KBFD WILL NOT ENOUGH TO WARRANT A LES ADVISORY...AND WILL BE MAINLY BETWEEN 1-2 INCHES OVER A 12-16 HOUR PERIOD. LOCALIZED 3 INCH AMOUNTS ARE POSSIBLE NEAR AND TO THE WEST OF KBFD...MAINLY TO THE NORTH OF ROUTE 6. NARROW BANDS OF LIGHTER SNOW SHOWERS ACROSS THE LAURELS WILL BRING A LIGHT COATING OF SNOW TO MANY LOCATIONS...WITH UP TO ONE INCH POSSIBLE ON A FEW OF THE RIDGES WEST OF RT 219. FOR THE SOUTHEAST TWO THIRDS OF THE REGION...EXPECT A FEW FLURRIES AND PERHAPS A BRIEF 2-5 MINUTE SNOW SHOWER THROUGH THE OVERNIGHT. MIN TEMPS TONIGHT /AROUND 20F ACROSS THE NW MTNS AND LAUREL HIGHLANDS...AND IN THE MID TO UPPER 20S THROUGHOUT THE CENTRAL AND SE VALLEYS/ WILL BE 5-6F BELOW NORMAL. THE WIND STAYS GUSTY FOR MUCH OF THE NIGHT DUE TO TIGHT P-GRAD. GUSTS BETWEEN 25-30 MPH WILL BE COMMON ACROSS THE CENTRAL AND WRN ZONES. A FEW GUSTS NEAR SNOW SHOWERS COULD RANGE UP TO 35 MPH. && .SHORT TERM /6 AM THIS MORNING THROUGH 6 PM SATURDAY/... 8H TEMPS RISE 10C THROUGH THE DAYLIGHT HRS...AND PUSH ANY REMAINING LAKE EFFECT SNOW WELL TO THE NORTH IN THE EARLY MORNING. REST OF THE SHORT TERM SHOULD BE CLEAR. SFC TEMPS MIGHT ONLY REBOUND ABOUT 15F WITH SHALLOW COLD AIR STUBBORN TO GO AWAY...ESP IN THE EASTERN VALLEYS. SFC HIGH PASSES TO OUR SOUTH DURING THE DAY AND SETS UP LIKE A BERMUDA HIGH. CLEAR SKIES AND THE STUBBORN COOLER AIR IN THE EAST WILL HELP THE ERN COLD SPOTS LIKE SEG AND THV DIP INTO THE L20S. M-U20S LOOK GOOD FOR MINS ELSEWHERE ESP THE RIDGES WHERE SRLY WIND WILL KEEP GOING LIGHTLY FOR MUCH OF THE NIGHT. && .LONG TERM /SATURDAY NIGHT THROUGH THURSDAY/... BROAD SOUTHWESTERLY FLOW ALOFT CONTINUES TO BE FORECAST BY THE LONG TERM MODELS THROUGH AT LEAST THE BEGINNING OF NEXT WEEK. THIS WILL KEEP TEMPERATURES NEAR TO ABOVE NORMAL THROUGH MUCH OF THE PERIOD...WITH NO SIGNIFICANT PERIODS OF ARCTIC CHILL IN SITE AS WE NOW INCLUDE THANKSGIVING DAY IN THIS FORECAST PACKAGE. SHORTWAVE ENERGY IS FORECAST TO MAKE ITS WAY EAST BY THE MIDDLE OF NEXT WEEK COMPLICATING THE UPPER FLOW PATTERN. AS THE UPPER TROUGH BUILDS OVER THE WESTERN U.S. INTO THE WEEKEND...THE SOUTHEASTERN RIDGE SHOULD PUSH WARMER AIR INTO OUR REGION BY SATURDAY. THE 850 HPA TEMPERATURES ARE PREDICTED TO BE 1SD ABOVE NORMAL LATE SATURDAY ACROSS THE NW PART OF THE STATE...AND AREA- WIDE ON SUNDAY. ANOTHER COLD FRONT APPROACHES WITH THE NEXT CHC FOR SHOWERS LATER SUNDAY INTO MONDAY. THIS FRONT IS FORECAST TO STALL OVER THE MID ATLANTIC REGION...WITH THE POTENTIAL FOR A WAVE OF LOW PRESSURE BRINGING MORE PCPN INTO THE REGION NEXT TUE/WED...BUT THE DETAILS AT THIS POINT ARE ANYTHING BUT CLEAR. && .AVIATION /06Z FRIDAY THROUGH TUESDAY/... INTENSE BANDS OF SNOW SHOWERS OVER N PA AT 06Z. HEAVIEST BANDS EAST OF BFD...AND ONLY A FEW FLURRIES EXPECTED AT IPT. BANDS NORTH OF IPT EXTEND INTO SULLIVAN COUNTY...AND CLOUD BANDS WELL INTO NJ. THUNDER REPORTED EARLIER ON THE SE SHORE OF LAKE ONT. WILL CONTINUE TO MONITOR. UPPER LOW MOVES ACROSS STATE TONIGHT WITH HIGH PRESSURE MOVING IN BEHIND FOR FRI. THIS WILL BRING SNOW SHOWERS OFF OF THE LAKES THROUGH SUNRISE TO THE NW MTNS...INCLUDING VARIABLE IFR TO VFR CONDITIONS AT KBFD THROUGH THE OVERNIGHT. ELSEWHERE...THE AIRMASS IS QUITE DRY...SO EXTENT OF THE SNOW SHOWERS AND LOW CIGS WILL BE LIMITED TO THE NORTHWEST PART OF THE STATE WITH VFR ELSEWHERE. WINDS OF 10-15 MPH GUSTING TO 25 MPH WILL GRADUALLY DIMINISH LATE. PERIOD OF VFR CONDITIONS FRI MORNING THROUGH SAT NIGHT AS A SW FLOW OF MILD AIR DEVELOPS ON THE BACK SIDE OF THE HIGH. OUTLOOK... FRI-SAT...VFR. NO SIG WX. SUN...GENERALLY VFR. MVFR IN SHOWERS POSS LATE. MON-TUE...MVFR TS/SHRA/CIGS POSSIBLE. && .CTP WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... NONE. && $$ SYNOPSIS...DANGELO NEAR TERM...DANGELO/LAMBERT SHORT TERM...DANGELO LONG TERM...FITZGERALD/GARTNER AVIATION...MARTIN/RXR
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS MARQUETTE MI
655 AM EST FRI NOV 18 2011 UPDATED AVIATION DISCUSSION FOR 12Z TAFS .SYNOPSIS... WV IMAGERY AND RUC ANALYSIS INDICATED A MAINLY ZONAL PATTERN ACROSS THE CONUS. SEVERAL WEAK SHORTWAVES WERE EMBEDDED IN THE WRLY FLOW OVER THE NRN PLAINS AND ADJOINING PORTIONS OF SRN CANADA. A STRONGER UPPER LEVEL JET AND SHORTWAVE TROUGH THAT WILL IMPACT WEATHER SATURDAY WAS MOVING INTO THE PAC NW. RADAR RETURNS OVER NRN WI AND SW UPPER MI WERE INCREASING AS WAA AND ISENTROPIC ASCENT INCREASED AHEAD OF A SFC TROUGH OVER THE PLAINS. SFC OBS INDICATED THAT THE PCPN WAS MAINLY ALOFT. && .DISCUSSION... TODAY AND TONIGHT...THE NAM/GFS SHOW A BAND OF 285-295K ISENTROPIC LIFT MOVING ACROSS UPPER MI. HOWEVER...THE NAM DEPICTION OF SLOWER/LESS SATURATION IN THE LOWER LEVELS (BELOW 850 MB) LOOKS MORE REALISTIC GIVEN UPSTREAM OBS/SOUNDINGS. SO...EXPECT ANY PCPN WILL BE MORE LIGHT/PATCHY AND ONLY SLIGHT CHANCE TO CHANCE POPS WERE INCLUDED. AS ANOTHER WEAK SHORTWAVE AND ASSOCIATED AREA OF 700-600 MB FGEN MOVES INTO WRN LAKE SUPERIOR AND WRN UPPER MI LATE TODAY AND THIS EVENING...SOME PATCHY LIGHT SNOW OR FLURRIES MAY ALSO PERSIST INTO THE FAR WEST. SATURDAY AND SATURDAY NIGHT...A FAST MOVING WAVE IS EXPECTED TO MOVE FROM THE CENTRAL PLAINS SATURDAY MORNING TO NEAR THE STRAITS BY LATE SATURDAY EVENING. THE GFS/NAM/ECMWF WERE IN REASONABLE AGREEMENT WITH THE TRACK OF THE SFC LOW. HOWEVER...SINCE THERE HAS BEEN SIGNIFICANT VARIATION WITH THE POSITION/STRENGTH OF THE STRONGEST 800-600 MB FGEN AND THE STRUCTURE/PLACEMENT OF THE COUPLED UPPER LEVEL JET...CONFIDENCE IN WHERE ANY HEAVY BANDS OF SNOW WILL SET UP IS LIMITED. MODELS CONSENSUS STILL SUGGESTS THE STRONGER DYNAMICS WILL AFFECT THE WEST HALF OF UPPER MI. SYNOPTIC QPF AMOUNTS OF 0.25 TO 0.50 INCH STILL SEEM REASONABLE GIVEN 4 G/KG MOISTURE AVBL AND THE PERIOD OF STRONG FORCING. SNOW/WATER RATIO VALUES ARE LIKELY TO REMAIN NEAR OR EVEN BELOW 10/1 WITH THE STRONGER UPWARD MOTION BELOW THE -12C TO -15C LAYER. ADDITIONAL UPSLOPE AND LAKE ENHANCEMENT IS EXPECTED NEAR IWD AND OVER N CNTRL UPPER MI. HOWEVER...THE WINDOW FOR HEAVIER SNOW DURING THE PERIOD OF SYNOPTIC FORCING IS RELATIVELY SHORT. GIVEN THE AMOUNT OF UNCERTAINTY AND WITH OVERALL SNOWFALL AMOUNTS EXPECTED TO REMAIN MAINLY IN THE 3 TO 7 INCH RANGE BTWN 18Z SAT AND 12Z SUN AN SPS RATHER THAN A WATCH WAS ISSUED. A NAM/GFS BLEND OF LOW LEVEL THICKNESS/WET BULB ZERO HEIGHTS WERE USED FOR PLACEMENT OF THE RAIN SNOW LINE FROM ABOUT KP53 TO JUST SE OF KIMT. SUNDAY....N TO NNW WINDS 850 MB TEMP TO AROUND -11C SHOULD KEEP SOME SCT -SHSN GOING IN THE MORNING. AS THE SFC RIDGE BUILDS INTO THE AREA IN THE AFTERNOON ALONG WITH DRIER AIR AND LOWER INVERSION HEIGHTS...ANY REMAINING LES WILL TAPER OFF. FOR THE EXTENDED...SFC TROUGH SLIDES ACROSS MAINLY LK SUPERIOR ON MONDAY LEADING TO WARM AIR ADVECTION ALOFT AND SOME ISENTROPIC LIFT. GFS/CANADIAN FAVOR A PERIOD OF LGT SNOW MONDAY BUT FOR MOST PART THE ECMWF REMAINS DRY. GFS FCST SOUNDINGS SHOW DEEP MOISTURE AND LIFT ACTING UPON FAVORABLE TEMPS FOR SNOW INITIATION...SO AT LEAST THE GFS QPF IS CONSISTENT WITH ITS OTHER MODEL FIELDS. SHORTWAVE IS FCST TO TRACK MAINLY ACROSS LK SUPERIOR AND WOULD EXPECT GREATEST CHANCE OF SATURATION/PCPN TO OCCUR THERE AS WELL. ONLY HAVE CHANCE POPS ON THE KEWEENAW. EVEN IF GFS IS CORRECT...WOULD ONLY SEE SUB ADVY SNOW AMOUNTS...AND THAT IS PRETTY GENEROUS. AFTER TROUGH EXITS...LOOKS LIKE A QUIET PERIOD OF WEATHER OVR UPR LAKES LEADING INTO THE THANKSGIVING HOLIDAY AS WRLY FLOW KEEPS MAIN STORM TRACK SUPPRESSED TO SOUTH. MAY BE A SYSTEM THAT AFFECTS LOWER MICHIGAN LATER TUESDAY INTO TUESDAY NIGHT...BUT THAT SHOULD BE GONE BY THE BUSY WEDNESDAY TRAVEL DAY WITH HIGH PRESSURE BUILDING OVR UPR LAKES REGION. SEEMS LIKE NICE WARMUP COULD OCCUR ON THANKSGIVING ONCE THE HIGH MOVES EAST LEADING TO RETURN SW FLOW AT SFC. GFS SOUNDINGS SHOW LOWER INVERSION BUT EVEN LIMITED MIXING YIELDS HIGHS WELL INTO THE 40S. GIVEN THE SW WINDS...INCREASED TEMPS FOR DOWNSLOPE AREAS NEAR LK SUPERIOR TOWARD 50 DEGREES...CLOSER TO BIAS CORRECTED CONSENSUS. LOOKS LIKE VERY NICE WEATHER FOR THE THANKSGIVING HOLIDAY...AND LIKELY INTO FRIDAY TOO AS SW WINDS CONTINUE TO PUSH WARM AIR INTO THE UPR LAKES AHEAD OF DEVELOPING TROUGH OVR THE PLAINS. RECORD HIGHS FOR 24-25 NOVEMBER ARE MAINLY IN THE MID TO UPR 50S ACROSS THE CWA. && .AVIATION /FOR THE 12Z TAF ISSUANCE/... EXTENSIVE BKN MID CLOUDS SPREAD OVER UPR MICHIGAN INTO THIS EVENING. WARM FRONT ALOFT MAY TRIGGER FLURRIES AT KCMX THIS MORNING. EVEN SO...VFR CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED THROUGH THIS EVENING AT ALL SITES. BY LATE TONIGHT...PASSAGE OF WEAK LOW PRESSURE TROUGH MAY RESULT IN CIGS BECOMING MVFR AT KIWD AND KCMX. HEADS UP THAT AFTER FAIRLY BENIGN CONDITIONS THROUGH TONIGHT AND SATURDAY MORNING...WIDESPREAD IFR/LIFR CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED BEGINNING SATURDAY AFTN AT ALL THREE TAF SITES AS LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM WITH WIDESPREAD/STEADY WET SNOW WORKS ACROSS MOST OF UPPER MICHIGAN. CONDITIONS WILL NOT IMPROVE UNTIL SUNDAY MORNING AS THE LOW MOVES AWAY FROM THE AREA. && .MARINE /FOR THE 4 AM LAKE SUPERIOR FORECAST ISSUANCE/... WEST-TO-EAST ORIENTED SFC TROUGH PASSES ACROSS LK SUPERIOR TODAY LEADING TO DEVELOPING SE WINDS OVR WESTERN LK AND GUSTY SOUTHERLY WINDS TO 30 KTS OVER EASTERN SECTIONS. WINDS DIMINISH TONIGHT...THEN INCREASE BY LATE SATURDAY WITH ARRIVAL OF LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM FM THE SOUTHERN PLAINS. SFC LOW NOT FCST TO DEEPEN SIGNIFICANTLY BUT THERE IS DECENT COLD AIR RUSHING IN FM THE NORTH IN WAKE OF THE SYSTEM. CANNOT RULE OUT LOW END NORTHERLY GALES SATURDAY NIGHT OVER CNTRL LK SUPERIOR. NOT NEAR ENOUGH CONFIDENCE TO ISSUE GALE WATCH AT THIS POINT THOUGH. SHOULD BE A WIDESPREAD SNOW OVER MOST OF LK SUPERIOR AS THE LOW MOVES THROUGH THE AREA. LOW THEN QUICKLY SLIDES EAST SUNDAY AND WINDS DIMINISH BY SUNDAY AFTN. WINDS SHOULD STAY LESS THAN 25 KTS EARLY NEXT WEEK AS A WEAK TROUGH MOVES ACROSS FOLLOWED BY A LARGE AREA OF HIGH PRESSURE. && .MQT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... UPPER MICHIGAN... NONE. LAKE SUPERIOR... NONE. LAKE MICHIGAN... NONE. && $$ SYNOPSIS...JLB DISCUSSION...JLB EXTENDED...JLA AVIATION...JLA MARINE...JLA
CORRECTED EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION

.SYNOPSIS... WV IMAGERY AND RUC ANALYSIS INDICATED A MAINLY ZONAL PATTERN ACROSS THE CONUS. SEVERAL WEAK SHORTWAVES WERE EMBEDDED IN THE WRLY FLOW OVER THE NRN PLAINS AND ADJOINING PORTIONS OF SRN CANADA. A STRONGER UPPER LEVEL JET AND SHORTWAVE TROUGH THAT WILL IMPACT WEATHER SATURDAY WAS MOVING INTO THE PAC NW. RADAR RETURNS OVER NRN WI AND SW UPPER MI WERE INCREASING AS WAA AND ISENTROPIC ASCENT INCREASED AHEAD OF A SFC TROUGH OVER THE PLAINS. SFC OBS INDICATED THAT THE PCPN WAS MAINLY ALOFT. && .DISCUSSION... TODAY AND TONIGHT...THE NAM/GFS SHOW A BAND OF 285-295K ISENTROPIC LIFT MOVING ACROSS UPPER MI. HOWEVER...THE NAM DEPICTION OF SLOWER/LESS SATURATION IN THE LOWER LEVELS (BELOW 850 MB) LOOKS MORE REALISTIC GIVEN UPSTREAM OBS/SOUNDINGS. SO...EXPECT ANY PCPN WILL BE MORE LIGHT/PATCHY AND ONLY SLIGHT CHANCE TO CHANCE POPS WERE INCLUDED. AS ANOTHER WEAK SHORTWAVE AND ASSOCIATED AREA OF 700-600 MB FGEN MOVES INTO WRN LAKE SUPERIOR AND WRN UPPER MI LATE TODAY AND THIS EVENING...SOME PATCHY LIGHT SNOW OR FLURRIES MAY ALSO PERSIST INTO THE FAR WEST. SATURDAY AND SATURDAY NIGHT...A FAST MOVING WAVE IS EXPECTED TO MOVE FROM THE CENTRAL PLAINS SATURDAY MORNING TO NEAR THE STRAITS BY LATE SATURDAY EVENING. THE GFS/NAM/ECMWF WERE IN REASONABLE AGREEMENT WITH THE TRACK OF THE SFC LOW. HOWEVER...SINCE THERE HAS BEEN SIGNIFICANT VARIATION WITH THE POSITION/STRENGTH OF THE STRONGEST 800-600 MB FGEN AND THE STRUCTURE/PLACEMENT OF THE COUPLED UPPER LEVEL JET...CONFIDENCE IN WHERE ANY HEAVY BANDS OF SNOW WILL SET UP IS LIMITED. MODELS CONSENSUS STILL SUGGESTS THE STRONGER DYNAMICS WILL AFFECT THE WEST HALF OF UPPER MI. SYNOPTIC QPF AMOUNTS OF 0.25 TO 0.50 INCH STILL SEEM REASONABLE GIVEN 4 G/KG MOISTURE AVBL AND THE PERIOD OF STRONG FORCING. SNOW/WATER RATIO VALUES ARE LIKELY TO REMAIN NEAR OR EVEN BELOW 10/1 WITH THE STRONGER UPWARD MOTION BELOW THE -12C TO -15C LAYER. ADDITIONAL UPSLOPE AND LAKE ENHANCEMENT IS EXPECTED NEAR IWD AND OVER N CNTRL UPPER MI. HOWEVER...THE WINDOW FOR HEAVIER SNOW DURING THE PERIOD OF SYNOPTIC FORCING IS RELATIVELY SHORT. GIVEN THE AMOUNT OF UNCERTAINTY AND WITH OVERALL SNOWFALL AMOUNTS EXPECTED TO REMAIN MAINLY IN THE 3 TO 7 INCH RANGE BTWN 18Z SAT AND 12Z SUN AN SPS RATHER THAN A WATCH WAS ISSUED. A NAM/GFS BLEND OF LOW LEVEL THICKNESS/WET BULB ZERO HEIGHTS WERE USED FOR PLACEMENT OF THE RAIN SNOW LINE FROM ABOUT KP53 TO JUST SE OF KIMT. SUNDAY....N TO NNW WINDS 850 MB TEMP TO AROUND -11C SHOULD KEEP SOME SCT -SHSN GOING IN THE MORNING. AS THE SFC RIDGE BUILDS INTO THE AREA IN THE AFTERNOON ALONG WITH DRIER AIR AND LOWER INVERSION HEIGHTS...ANY REMAINING LES WILL TAPER OFF. FOR THE EXTENDED...SFC TROUGH SLIDES ACROSS MAINLY LK SUPERIOR ON MONDAY LEADING TO WARM AIR ADVECTION ALOFT AND SOME ISENTROPIC LIFT. GFS/CANADIAN FAVOR A PERIOD OF LGT SNOW MONDAY BUT FOR MOST PART THE ECMWF REMAINS DRY. GFS FCST SOUNDINGS SHOW DEEP MOISTURE AND LIFT ACTING UPON FAVORABLE TEMPS FOR SNOW INITIATION...SO AT LEAST THE GFS QPF IS CONSISTENT WITH ITS OTHER MODEL FIELDS. SHORTWAVE IS FCST TO TRACK MAINLY ACROSS LK SUPERIOR AND WOULD EXPECT GREATEST CHANCE OF SATURATION/PCPN TO OCCUR THERE AS WELL. ONLY HAVE CHANCE POPS ON THE KEWEENAW. EVEN IF GFS IS CORRECT...WOULD ONLY SEE SUB ADVY SNOW AMOUNTS...AND THAT IS PRETTY GENEROUS. AFTER TROUGH EXITS...LOOKS LIKE A QUIET PERIOD OF WEATHER OVR UPR LAKES LEADING INTO THE THANKSGIVING HOLIDAY AS WRLY FLOW KEEPS MAIN STORM TRACK SUPPRESSED TO SOUTH. MAY BE A SYSTEM THAT AFFECTS LOWER MICHIGAN LATER TUESDAY INTO TUESDAY NIGHT...BUT THAT SHOULD BE GONE BY THE BUSY WEDNESDAY TRAVEL DAY WITH HIGH PRESSURE BUILDING OVR UPR LAKES REGION. SEEMS LIKE NICE WARMUP COULD OCCUR ON THANKSGIVING ONCE THE HIGH MOVES EAST LEADING TO RETURN SW FLOW AT SFC. GFS SOUNDINGS SHOW LOWER INVERSION BUT EVEN LIMITED MIXING YIELDS HIGHS WELL INTO THE 40S. GIVEN THE SW WINDS...INCREASED TEMPS FOR DOWNSLOPE AREAS NEAR LK SUPERIOR TOWARD 50 DEGREES...CLOSER TO BIAS CORRECTED CONSENSUS. LOOKS LIKE VERY NICE WEATHER FOR THE THANKSGIVING HOLIDAY...AND LIKELY INTO FRIDAY TOO AS SW WINDS CONTINUE TO PUSH WARM AIR INTO THE UPR LAKES AHEAD OF DEVELOPING TROUGH OVR THE PLAINS. RECORD HIGHS FOR 24-25 NOVEMBER ARE MAINLY IN THE MID TO UPR 50S ACROSS THE CWA. && .AVIATION /FOR THE 06Z TAF ISSUANCE/... AS WINDS BECOME MORE SOUTHERLY WITH TIME...THE LAKE EFFECT SNOW SHOWERS AND BANDS WILL PUSH OFFSHORE FROM KCMX OVERNIGHT AND MVFR CIGS OR VIS IN THE SNOWBANDS WILL IMPROVE TO VFR AND THIS SHOULD LAST THROUGH THE REST OF THE PERIOD. VFR CONDITIONS AT BOTH KIWD AND KSAW THROUGH THE PERIOD. AS WINDS DECOUPLE LATE TONIGHT...PUT IN SOME LLWS AT KIWD THAT WILL LAST INTO FRIDAY MID MORNING. WINDS WILL GET GUSTY AT KSAW FRIDAY. && .MARINE /FOR THE 4 AM LAKE SUPERIOR FORECAST ISSUANCE/... WEST-TO-EAST ORIENTED SFC TROUGH PASSES ACROSS LK SUPERIOR TODAY LEADING TO DEVELOPING SE WINDS OVR WESTERN LK AND GUSTY SOUTHERLY WINDS TO 30 KTS OVER EASTERN SECTIONS. WINDS DIMINISH TONIGHT...THEN INCREASE BY LATE SATURDAY WITH ARRIVAL OF LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM FM THE SOUTHERN PLAINS. SFC LOW NOT FCST TO DEEPEN SIGNIFICANTLY BUT THERE IS DECENT COLD AIR RUSHING IN FM THE NORTH IN WAKE OF THE SYSTEM. CANNOT RULE OUT LOW END NORTHERLY GALES SATURDAY NIGHT OVER CNTRL LK SUPERIOR. NOT NEAR ENOUGH CONFIDENCE TO ISSUE GALE WATCH AT THIS POINT THOUGH. SHOULD BE A WIDESPREAD SNOW OVER MOST OF LK SUPERIOR AS THE LOW MOVES THROUGH THE AREA. LOW THEN QUICKLY SLIDES EAST SUNDAY AND WINDS DIMINISH BY SUNDAY AFTN. WINDS SHOULD STAY LESS THAN 25 KTS EARLY NEXT WEEK AS A WEAK TROUGH MOVES ACROSS FOLLOWED BY A LARGE AREA OF HIGH PRESSURE. && .MQT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... UPPER MICHIGAN... NONE. LAKE SUPERIOR... NONE. LAKE MICHIGAN... NONE. && $$ SYNOPSIS...JLB DISCUSSION...JLB EXTENDED...JLA AVIATION...JLA MARINE...JLA
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS MARQUETTE MI
559 AM EST FRI NOV 18 2011 .SYNOPSIS... WV IMAGERY AND RUC ANALYSIS INDICATED A MAINLY ZONAL PATTERN ACROSS THE CONUS. SEVERAL WEAK SHORTWAVES WERE EMBEDDED IN THE WRLY FLOW OVER THE NRN PLAINS AND ADJOINING PORTIONS OF SRN CANADA. A STRONGER UPPER LEVEL JET AND SHORTWAVE TROUGH THAT WILL IMPACT WEATHER SATURDAY WAS MOVING INTO THE PAC NW. RADAR RETURNS OVER NRN WI AND SW UPPER MI WERE INCREASING AS WAA AND ISENTROPIC ASCENT INCREASED AHEAD OF A SFC TROUGH OVER THE PLAINS. SFC OBS INDICATED THAT THE PCPN WAS MAINLY ALOFT. && .DISCUSSION... TODAY AND TONIGHT...THE NAM/GFS SHOW A BAND OF 285-295K ISENTROPIC LIFT MOVING ACROSS UPPER MI. HOWEVER...THE NAM DEPICTION OF SLOWER/LESS SATURATION IN THE LOWER LEVELS (BELOW 850 MB) LOOKS MORE REALISTIC GIVEN UPSTREAM OBS/SOUNDINGS. SO...EXPECT ANY PCPN WILL BE MORE LIGHT/PATCHY AND ONLY SLIGHT CHANCE TO CHANCE POPS WERE INCLUDED. AS ANOTHER WEAK SHORTWAVE AND ASSOCIATED AREA OF 700-600 MB FGEN MOVES INTO WRN LAKE SUPERIOR AND WRN UPPER MI LATE TODAY AND THIS EVENING...SOME PATCHY LIGHT SNOW OR FLURRIES MAY ALSO PERSIST INTO THE FAR WEST. SATURDAY AND SATURDAY NIGHT...A FAST MOVING WAVE IS EXPECTED TO MOVE FROM THE CENTRAL PLAINS SATURDAY MORNING TO NEAR THE STRAITS BY LATE SATURDAY EVENING. THE GFS/NAM/ECMWF WERE IN REASONABLE AGREEMENT WITH THE TRACK OF THE SFC LOW. HOWEVER...SINCE THERE HAS BEEN SIGNIFICANT VARIATION WITH THE POSITION/STRENGTH OF THE STRONGEST 800-600 MB FGEN AND THE STRUCTURE/PLACEMENT OF THE COUPLED UPPER LEVEL JET...CONFIDENCE IN WHERE ANY HEAVY BANDS OF SNOW WILL SET UP IS LIMITED. MODELS CONSENSUS STILL SUGGESTS THE STRONGER DYNAMICS WILL AFFECT THE WEST HALF OF UPPER MI. SYNOPTIC QPF AMOUNTS OF 0.25 TO 0.50 INCH STILL SEEM REASONABLE GIVEN 4 G/KG MOISTURE AVBL AND THE PERIOD OF STRONG FORCING. SNOW/WATER RATIO VALUES ARE LIKELY TO REMAIN NEAR OR EVEN BELOW 10/1 WITH THE STRONGER UPWARD MOTION BELOW THE -12C TO -15C LAYER. ADDITIONAL UPSLOPE AND LAKE ENHANCEMENT IS EXPECTED NEAR IWD AND OVER N CNTRL UPPER MI. HOWEVER...THE WINDOW FOR HEAVIER SNOW DURING THE PERIOD OF SYNOPTIC FORCING IS RELATIVELY SHORT. GIVEN THE AMOUNT OF UNCERTAINTY AND WITH OVERALL SNOWFALL AMOUNTS EXPECTED TO REMAIN MAINLY IN THE 3 TO 7 INCH RANGE BTWN 18Z SAT AND 12Z SUN AN SPS RATHER THAN A WATCH WAS ISSUED. A NAM/GFS BLEND OF LOW LEVEL THICKNESS/WET BULB ZERO HEIGHTS WERE USED FOR PLACEMENT OF THE RAIN SNOW LINE FROM ABOUT KP53 TO JUST SE OF KIMT. SUNDAY....N TO NNW WINDS 850 MB TEMP TO AROUND -11C SHOULD KEEP SOME SCT -SHSN GOING IN THE MORNING. AS THE SFC RIDGE BUILDS INTO THE AREA IN THE AFTERNOON ALONG WITH DRIER AIR AND LOWER INVERSION HEIGHTS...ANY REMAINING LES WILL TAPER OFF. FOR THE EXTENDED...PRETTY GOOD AGREEMENT FM GFS/ECMWF/CANADIAN THAT UPR LEVELS SHOW INCREASING TROFFINESS BY LATE WEEKEND. MODELS HAVE LATCHED ONTO A STRONGER SHORTWAVE DROPPING THROUGH SUNDAY INTO SUNDAY NIGHT ALONG WITH A SFC LOW SLIDING ACROSS UPR LAKES. SLIGHT DIFFERENCES WITH TRACK OF SFC LOW...BUT ALL GUIDANCE INDICATES WARM AIR ADVECTION AHEAD OF TROUGH AND DIVERGENCE ALOFT FM JET DIGGING IN ON BACK SIDE OF TROUGH INTO UPR MISSISSIPPI RIVER VALLEY WILL SUPPORT SOME SHRA WORKING THROUGH UPR MI SUNDAY AND SUNDAY NIGHT. MODEL CONSENSUS POINTED TO CHANCE POPS OVR WEST HALF OF CWA ON SUNDAY THEN MOVING INTO EASTERN CWA SUNDAY NIGHT. ABOVE AVERAGE CONFIDENCE IN TIMING/EXTENT OF RAIN CHANCES THROUGH SUNDAY. RIDGE WORKS ACROSS FOR MONDAY WITH MAINLY DRY WX FIGURED. BEYOND MONDAY...ANOTHER TROUGH IS FCST TO COME ACROSS UPR LAKES IN FLATTENING UPR FLOW. THE FLOW BECOMING MORE ZONAL IS LEADING TO TIMING DIFFERENCES IN THE MODELS. GFS IS QUICKEST WITH NEXT SFC TROUGH...PUSHING IT COMPLETELY THROUGH AREA BY WEDNESDAY MORNING. LATEST ECMWF/CANADIAN ARE MUCH SLOWER AND MORE AMPLIFIED...WITH A STRONG SFC LOW FCST TO MEANDER OVR UPR LAKES THROUGH AT LEAST WEDNESDAY. GFS HAS BETTER RUN-TO-RUN CONSISTENCY AND MATCHED CONTINUITY SO DID SIDE WITH THAT IDEA FOR NOW. TOUGH TO BET AGAINST ECMWF IN THE EXTENDED PERIODS THOUGH...SO HAVE LOWER CONFIDENCE IN EXTENDED BEYOND MONDAY DUE TO THE TIMING DIFFERENCES IN MODELS. WHAT IS AGREED UPON BY MODELS IS COOL DOWN BEHIND THIS SYSTEM MID-LATE WEEK WITH POSSIBLE RAIN/SNOW SHOWERS. THE MAIN QUESTION IS JUST HOW QUICK THIS WILL OCCUR. && .AVIATION /FOR THE 06Z TAF ISSUANCE/... AS WINDS BECOME MORE SOUTHERLY WITH TIME...THE LAKE EFFECT SNOW SHOWERS AND BANDS WILL PUSH OFFSHORE FROM KCMX OVERNIGHT AND MVFR CIGS OR VIS IN THE SNOWBANDS WILL IMPROVE TO VFR AND THIS SHOULD LAST THROUGH THE REST OF THE PERIOD. VFR CONDITIONS AT BOTH KIWD AND KSAW THROUGH THE PERIOD. AS WINDS DECOUPLE LATE TONIGHT...PUT IN SOME LLWS AT KIWD THAT WILL LAST INTO FRIDAY MID MORNING. WINDS WILL GET GUSTY AT KSAW FRIDAY. && .MARINE /FOR THE 4 AM LAKE SUPERIOR FORECAST ISSUANCE/... WEST-TO-EAST ORIENTED SFC TROUGH PASSES ACROSS LK SUPERIOR TODAY LEADING TO DEVELOPING SE WINDS OVR WESTERN LK AND GUSTY SOUTHERLY WINDS TO 30 KTS OVER EASTERN SECTIONS. WINDS DIMINISH TONIGHT...THEN INCREASE BY LATE SATURDAY WITH ARRIVAL OF LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM FM THE SOUTHERN PLAINS. SFC LOW NOT FCST TO DEEPEN SIGNIFICANTLY BUT THERE IS DECENT COLD AIR RUSHING IN FM THE NORTH IN WAKE OF THE SYSTEM. CANNOT RULE OUT LOW END NORTHERLY GALES SATURDAY NIGHT OVER CNTRL LK SUPERIOR. NOT NEAR ENOUGH CONFIDENCE TO ISSUE GALE WATCH AT THIS POINT THOUGH. SHOULD BE A WIDESPREAD SNOW OVER MOST OF LK SUPERIOR AS THE LOW MOVES THROUGH THE AREA. LOW THEN QUICKLY SLIDES EAST SUNDAY AND WINDS DIMINISH BY SUNDAY AFTN. WINDS SHOULD STAY LESS THAN 25 KTS EARLY NEXT WEEK AS A WEAK TROUGH MOVES ACROSS FOLLOWED BY A LARGE AREA OF HIGH PRESSURE. && .MQT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... UPPER MICHIGAN... NONE. LAKE SUPERIOR... NONE. LAKE MICHIGAN... NONE. && $$ SYNOPSIS...JLB DISCUSSION...JLB EXTENDED...JLA AVIATION...JLA MARINE...JLA
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS DENVER CO
1010 AM MST FRI NOV 18 2011 .UPDATE...ONGOING FORECASTS STILL ON TRACK. CURRENTLY...WINDS ACROSS MOUNTAINS AND ALONG FOOTHILLS BEGINNING TO DECREASE...IN LINE WITH LATEST MODEL CROSS SECTIONS. WINDS TO INCREASE AGAIN AFTER MIDNIGHT AS MODEL CROSS SECTIONS SHOW CROSS MOUNTAIN FLOW INCREASING TO AROUND 75 KTS ALONG THE FOOTHILLS AFTER 09Z...IN LINE WITH THE GREATEST DOWNWARD MOTION. SO CONCERN STILL EXISTS FOR HIGH WIND POTENTIAL ALONG FOOTHILLS...SOUTH PARK AND PORTIONS OF THE PALMER DIVIDE. THERE IS STILL A BIT OF VERTICAL SHEAR ASSOCIATED WITH THE INCOMING JET WHICH COULD LIMIT THE HIGH WIND POTENTIAL...SO WILL MAINTAIN THE HIGH WIND WATCH FOR NOW AND TAKE A CLOSER LOOK FOR THE AFTERNOON PACKAGE. AS FOR SNOW POTENTIAL TONIGHT...CROSS SECTIONS INDICATE AN INCREASE IN MOISTURE OVER THE MOUNTAINS CLOSER TO MIDNIGHT...WHICH COULD DELAY THE TIMING OF THE SNOW FOR ZONE 31. WILL LEAVE THE SLIGHT CHANCE THERE AFTER 00Z FOR NOW. && .AVIATION...CURRENT TAF TRENDS STILL LOOKING ON TRACK...WITH WIND BEING THE MAIN ISSUE THROUGH TONIGHT. LATEST HRRR AND RUC STILL BRING A WESTERLY PUSH OF WIND ACROSS THE AREA AIRPORTS BETWEEN 17Z AND 21Z. WILL MAINTAIN THIS TREND IN THE 18Z TAFS. NO MAJOR CHANGES NEEDED. LATEST NAM SUGGESTING FROPA AND NORTHERLY SURGE AROUND 18Z AT DIA...THEN EASTERLY BY 21Z. THIS SEEMS REASONABLE...AND WILL FOLLOW THIS TREND. NAM ALSO SUGGESTS A CEILING OF AROUND 6000 FEET AGL AFTER 21Z AND WILL ADD THIS IN A TEMPO GROUP. NO WEATHER ANTICIPATED AT THIS TIME. && .PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 340 AM MST FRI NOV 18 2011/ SHORT TERM...MAIN CONCERN AGAIN FOR THE NEXT 24 HOURS IS THE STRONG WIND POTENTIAL OVER THE MOUNTAINS AND FOOTHILLS AND SNOW SPREADING INTO THE MOUNTAINS LATER TONIGHT. CURRENTLY A STRONG WESTERLY FLOW ALOFT WITH SOME GUSTY WINDS IN THE MOUNTAINS AND FOOTHILLS. MOST OF THE WINDS IN THE 15 TO 25 MPH WITH SOME HIGHER GUSTS IN THE 30-45 MPH RANGE. FOR MOST OF TODAY AND THIS EVENING...WINDS SHOULD REMAIN BELOW HIGH WIND CRITERIA. DEEP LOW PRESSURE WILL REMAIN OFF THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST COAST AND SPIN OUT A WAVE WHICH WILL MOVE INTO COLORADO LATER TONIGHT. CROSS SECTIONS SHOW CROSS BARRIER FLOW INCREASING LATER TONIGHT WITH 60-80KT COMING DOWN THE SLOPE AFTER 09Z. THIS SEEMS TO CORRESPOND WITH STRONGER DOWNWARD VERTICAL VELOCITIES DEVELOPING BELOW 600MB EARLY SAT AM. THIS MAY HELP IN AIDING THE STRONGEST WINDS TO THE SURFACE. THERE IS A FAIRLY DECENT STABILITY THAT ALSO DEVELOPS AT 700MB. ON THE NEGATIVE SIDE FOR HIGH WINDS...THERE IS A FAIR AMOUNT OF VERTICAL SHEAR WITH THE INCOMING JET AND MOISTURE/PRECIP DEVELOPING IN THE MOUNTAINS MAY REDUCE THE AMPLIFICATION OF THE WAVE. APPEARS LIKE THE WINDOW FOR THE STRONGEST WINDS WOULD BE BETWEEN 09Z-15Z ON SATURDAY...AND FAVOR SOUTHERN SECTIONS INCLUDING JEFFERSON...PARK AND WESTERN DOUGLAS COUNTIES AS THE FLOW IS A BIT MORE SOUTHWEST. FOR NOW WITH STILL QUITE A BIT OF UNCERTAINTY... WILL ONLY GO WITH A HIGH WIND WATCH GIVEN THE POTENTIAL FOR HIGH WINDS AND WILL COVER ZONES 35>37 AND 41. MOISTURE WILL SPREAD INTO THE MOUNTAINS LATER TONIGHT WITH SNOW DEVELOPING...MAINLY OVER ZONE 31 AND 33. GIVEN THE STRONG SOUTHWEST FLOW...ZONE 34 INCLUDING SUMMIT COUNTY WILL ONLY SEE SCATTERED SNOW SHOWERS WITH UNPREFERRED OROGRAPHIC DIRECTION. LONG TERM...JET MAX AND TROUGH AXIS WILL BE RIGHT OVER COLORADO EARLY SATURDAY MORNING. CONCERN WILL CONTINUE TO BE HIGH WINDS THROUGH THE MORNING FOR THE FOOTHILLS AND EASTERN SLOPES OF THE NORTHERN AND CENTRAL MOUNTAINS AS WELL AS FOR SOUTH PARK AND SOME AREAS OF THE PALMER DIVIDE. BY NOON...THE JET WILL LIFT NORTH...THE SURFACE PRESSURE GRADIENT WILL RELAX AND THE COLD FRONT WILL MOVE SOUTH ACROSS THE FORECAST AREA. THEREFORE WILL HAVE THE WATCH PERIOD ONLY ENCOMPASS THE MORNING HOURS. WINDS BEHIND THE FRONT WILL BE STRONG OUT OF THE NORTH AS WELL...HOWEVER NOT STRONG ENOUGH FOR ANY HIGHLIGHT. SNOW WILL CONTINUE OVER THE HIGH COUNTRY SATURDAY MORNING WITH ANOTHER FEW INCHES EXPECTED. THE PARK AND NORTHERN GORE RANGES WILL SEE THE HEAVIEST AMOUNTS WITH LESS EXPECTED SOUTH TOWARD THE I70 CORRIDOR. THE STRONG WINDS SATURDAY MORNING WILL CREATE AREAS OF BLOWING SNOW ESPECIALLY OVER PASSES. THE STRONG MOUNTAIN LEVEL WINDS ALONG WITH A LEESIDE SURFACE LOW OVER THE WESTERN PLAINS THROUGH THE EVENING WILL KEEP THE PLAINS DRY AS WELL AS LESS SNOW AMOUNTS FOR THE EASTERN SLOPES OF THE HIGHER MOUNTAINS AS WELL AS THE FOOTHILLS. THIS LEESIDE LOW WILL ALSO KEEP TEMPERATURES WARMER THAN PREVIOUS FORECASTS ESPECIALLY OVER THE WESTERN PLAINS. HAVE INCREASED THE HIGHS INTO THE 50S FOR THE PLAINS. AS HIGH SURFACE PRESSURE FROM THE NORTHERN GREAT PLAINS PUSHES DOWN INTO NORTHEASTERN COLORADO...THE MOISTURE WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE ANYMORE FOR THE SHORT PERIOD OF UPSLOPE FLOW TO PRODUCE ANYTHING. SOUTHWEST FLOW WILL CONTINUE THROUGH MONDAY AS ANOTHER WEATHER DISTURBANCE OUT OF THE DESERT SOUTHWEST TRANSITIONS OVER THE STATE EARLY TUESDAY MORNING. ENOUGH MOISTURE IN THE FLOW WILL KEEP A CHANCE OF SNOW OVER THE MOUNTAINS THROUGH THIS PERIOD. TEMPERATURES SUNDAY AND MONDAY RIGHT AROUND NORMAL FOR THIS TIME WITH TEMPERATURES IN THE UPPER 40S FOR THE PLAINS AND IN THE 30S FOR THE MOUNTAINS. AS THE SECOND SYSTEM PASSES...MODELS ARE IN GOOD AGREEMENT FOR TUESDAY THROUGH THANKSGIVING TO SEE WARMER THAN AVERAGE TEMPERATURES AND DRY CONDITIONS AS AN UPPER RIDGE BUILDS IN. MODELS ALSO AGREEING ON ANOTHER UPPER TROUGH TO PASS OVER THE STATE THE NEXT DAY ON FRIDAY. THIS WILL LIKELY PRODUCE MORE SEASONAL WEATHER INCLUDING MOUNTAIN SNOWS FOR THANKSGIVING WEEKEND. AVIATION...VFR CONDITIONS EXPECTED THROUGH TONIGHT WITH JUST VARYING AMOUNTS OF SCT-BKN HIGH LEVEL CLOUDS. TYPICAL DRAINAGE WINDS FROM THE SOUTH EARLY THIS AM THEN A BIT OF A CHALLENGE THIS AFTERNOON. DESPITE THE CURRENT SOUTHEAST AFTERNOON WINDS IN THE TAF THINK THINGS MAY DEVELOP MORE LIKE YESTERDAY WITH SOME WESTERLY WINDS SPILLING OUT BY MID-LATE AFTERNOON...ESP AT BJC AND DEN. WILL ADJUST 12Z TAFS TO SHOW MORE OF THE SOUTHWEST TO WEST WINDS. THE WEST TO SOUTHWEST WINDS WILL INCREASE AGAIN LATER TNT...ESP AT BJC WITH GUSTS 30 TO 40KTS POSSIBLE. && .BOU WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... HIGH WIND WATCH FROM LATE TONIGHT THROUGH SATURDAY MORNING FOR COZ035>037-041. && $$ SHORT TERM...D-L LONG TERM....KRIEDERMAN AVIATION...D-L
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS COLUMBIA SC
121 PM EST FRI NOV 18 2011 .SYNOPSIS... HIGH PRESSURE WILL DOMINATE THE WEATHER OVER THE AREA THROUGH THE WEEKEND INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK. LOW LEVEL EASTERLY FLOW MAY INCREASE LOW CLOUDS OVER THE AREA OVER THE WEEKEND. && .NEAR TERM /THROUGH TONIGHT/... DRY HIGH PRESSURE CENTERED OVER NORTH CAROLINA WILL DOMINATE TODAY. THE LATEST SATELLITE TRENDS AND THE MODELS INDICATED CONTINUED CLEAR SKIES. THE TEMPERATURE GUIDANCE WAS CONSISTENT. && .SHORT TERM /SATURDAY THROUGH SUNDAY NIGHT/... DRY RIDGING SHOULD CONTINUE TO DOMINATE TONIGHT. PRECIPITABLE WATER VALUES WILL BE EXTREMELY LOW...LESS THAN A QUARTER INCH. EXPECT LOWS IN THE UPPER 20S TO LOWER 30S UNDER STRONG RADIATIONAL COOLING CONDITIONS. ONE POTENTIAL FLY IN THE OINTMENT OVERNIGHT WILL BE THE POSSIBILITY OF STRATOCUMULUS MOVING IN OFF THE COAST AS THE LOW LEVEL FLOW SHIFTS MORE SOUTHERLY ALLOWING ATLANTIC MOISTURE TO OVERSPREAD THE REGION. BY SATURDAY THE AIR MASS BEGINS TO MODIFY AND SURFACE HIGH PRESSURE SHIFTS OFF THE COAST ALLOWING FOR A RETURN SOUTHERLY FLOW. UPPER HEIGHTS WILL ALSO BE RISING IN RESPONSE TO TROUGHING UPSTREAM OVER THE WESTERN PART OF THE COUNTRY. MAX TEMPERATURES SHOULD RISE BACK INTO THE 60S SATURDAY AFTERNOON DESPITE SOME POSSIBLE CLOUD COVER. LOW LEVEL FLOW OFF THE ATLANTIC WILL CONTINUE TO INCREASE ATMOSPHERIC MOISTURE AS PRECIPITABLE WATER VALUES RETURN TO NEAR 1 INCH BY SUNDAY MORNING. PRE-DAWN STRATUS EARLY SUNDAY WILL LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF COOLING AND THEREFORE EXPECT WARMER MIN TEMPERATURES SATURDAY NIGHT. CONTINUED WARMING ON SUNDAY AS HIGHS PUSH INTO THE LOWER 70S WITH WARM ADVECTION. && .LONG TERM /MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY/... WELL ABOVE NORMAL TEMPERATURES ARE EXPECTED MONDAY AND TUESDAY AS UPPER HEIGHTS RISE AND SOUTHERLY FLOW AROUND THE SURFACE HIGH BRINGS WARMER AIR NORTHWARD. TIMING FOR ANOTHER COLD FRONT CROSSING THE AREA LOOKS TO BE TUESDAY NIGHT INTO WEDNESDAY MORNING BRINGING THE NEXT CHANCE OF PRECIPITATION. FOR NOW POPS WILL BE IN THE LOW CHANCE RANGE WITH THE FRONTAL PASSAGE. COLD HIGH PRESSURE BUILDS INTO THE AREA BEHIND THE FRONT THURSDAY PROVIDING DRY WEATHER AND BELOW NORMAL TEMPERATURES. && .AVIATION /18Z FRIDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY/... HIGH PRESSURE WILL MOVE EAST THIS EVENING. THIS WILL ALLOW 2 KFT WINDS TO THE SOUTHEAST AND ADVECT MOISTURE INTO THE REGION LATE TONIGHT AFTER MIDNIGHT. WILL KEEP MAINLY VFR CONDITIONS OVERNIGHT AS AIRMASS REMAINS TO BE DRY. BOTH NAM AND RUC SHOW SOUTHEAST WINDS BRINGING MOISTURE IN THE FORM OF CLOUDS AFTER MIDNIGHT. WILL KEEP CLOUDS SCATTERED NEAR 2 KFT 06Z SOUTH LIKE AGS AND OGB AND 08Z TAF SITES NORTH OF THERE. WITH DRY AIR...THINK CEILINGS WILL BE SLOW TO DEVELOP. SO...DECIDED TO GO JUST SCATTERED UNTIL 12Z-14Z TIME FRAME. WILL HAVE MVFR CEILINGS SOUTH TAF SITES OF OGB AND AGS THEN MOVING NORTH TO REMAINING TAF SITES BY 14Z. THERE SHOULD BE SOME WEAK ISENTROPIC LIFT AS WELL BUT MOIST LAYERS APPEARS TO BE TOO SHALLOW TO GIVE ANY PRECIPITATION SATURDAY. AIRMASS NEAR THE SURFACE APPEARS TO BE TOO DRY FOR ANY FOG SATURDAY MORNING. DEWPOINTS IN THE TEENS EARLY TONIGHT REBOUND TO THE 20S AFTER MIDNIGHT BUT STILL TOO LOW FOR FOG DEVELOPMENT. EXTENDED AVIATION OUTLOOK...MOISTURE ASSOCIATED WITH AN ONSHORE FLOW MAY HELP CAUSE PERIODS OF MVFR CONDITIONS SATURDAY AND IFR TO MVFR CONDITIONS SUNDAY THROUGH TUESDAY...MAINLY DURING THE EARLY MORNING HOURS. && .CAE WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... SC...NONE. GA...NONE. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS COLUMBIA SC
1239 PM EST FRI NOV 18 2011 .SYNOPSIS... HIGH PRESSURE WILL DOMINATE THE WEATHER OVER THE AREA THROUGH THE WEEKEND INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK. LOW LEVEL EASTERLY FLOW MAY INCREASE LOW CLOUDS OVER THE AREA OVER THE WEEKEND. && .NEAR TERM /THROUGH TONIGHT/... DRY HIGH PRESSURE CENTERED OVER NORTH CAROLINA WILL DOMINATE TODAY. THE LATEST SATELLITE TRENDS AND THE MODELS INDICATED CONTINUED CLEAR SKIES. THE TEMPERATURE GUIDANCE WAS CONSISTENT. && .SHORT TERM /SATURDAY THROUGH SUNDAY NIGHT/... DRY RIDGING SHOULD CONTINUE TO DOMINATE TONIGHT. PRECIPITABLE WATER VALUES WILL BE EXTREMELY LOW...LESS THAN A QUARTER INCH. EXPECT LOWS IN THE UPPER 20S TO LOWER 30S UNDER STRONG RADIATIONAL COOLING CONDITIONS. ONE POTENTIAL FLY IN THE OINTMENT OVERNIGHT WILL BE THE POSSIBILITY OF STRATOCUMULUS MOVING IN OFF THE COAST AS THE LOW LEVEL FLOW SHIFTS MORE SOUTHERLY ALLOWING ATLANTIC MOISTURE TO OVERSPREAD THE REGION. BY SATURDAY THE AIR MASS BEGINS TO MODIFY AND SURFACE HIGH PRESSURE SHIFTS OFF THE COAST ALLOWING FOR A RETURN SOUTHERLY FLOW. UPPER HEIGHTS WILL ALSO BE RISING IN RESPONSE TO TROUGHING UPSTREAM OVER THE WESTERN PART OF THE COUNTRY. MAX TEMPERATURES SHOULD RISE BACK INTO THE 60S SATURDAY AFTERNOON DESPITE SOME POSSIBLE CLOUD COVER. LOW LEVEL FLOW OFF THE ATLANTIC WILL CONTINUE TO INCREASE ATMOSPHERIC MOISTURE AS PRECIPITABLE WATER VALUES RETURN TO NEAR 1 INCH BY SUNDAY MORNING. PRE-DAWN STRATUS EARLY SUNDAY WILL LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF COOLING AND THEREFORE EXPECT WARMER MIN TEMPERATURES SATURDAY NIGHT. CONTINUED WARMING ON SUNDAY AS HIGHS PUSH INTO THE LOWER 70S WITH WARM ADVECTION. && .LONG TERM /MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY/... WELL ABOVE NORMAL TEMPERATURES ARE EXPECTED MONDAY AND TUESDAY AS UPPER HEIGHTS RISE AND SOUTHERLY FLOW AROUND THE SURFACE HIGH BRINGS WARMER AIR NORTHWARD. TIMING FOR ANOTHER COLD FRONT CROSSING THE AREA LOOKS TO BE TUESDAY NIGHT INTO WEDNESDAY MORNING BRINGING THE NEXT CHANCE OF PRECIPITATION. FOR NOW POPS WILL BE IN THE LOW CHANCE RANGE WITH THE FRONTAL PASSAGE. COLD HIGH PRESSURE BUILDS INTO THE AREA BEHIND THE FRONT THURSDAY PROVIDING DRY WEATHER AND BELOW NORMAL TEMPERATURES. && .AVIATION /18Z FRIDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY/... HIGH PRESSURE WILL MOVE EAST THIS EVENING. THIS WILL ALLOW 2 KFT WINDS TO THE SOUTHEAST AND ADVECT MOISTURE INTO THE REGION LATE TONIGHT AFTER MIDNIGHT. WILL KEEP MAINLY VFR CONDITIONS OVERNIGHT AS AIRMASS REMAINS TO BE DRY. BOTH NAM AND RUC SHOW SOUTHEAST WINDS BRINGING MOISTURE IN THE FORM OF CLOUDS AFTER MIDNIGHT. WILL KEEP CLOUDS SCATTERED NEAR 2 KFT 06Z SOUTH LIKE AGS AND OGB AND 08Z TAF SITES NORTH OF THERE. WITH DRY AIR...THINK CEILINGS WILL BE SLOW TO DEVELOP. SO...DECIDED TO GO JUST SCATTERED UNTIL 12Z-14Z TIME FRAME. WILL HAVE MVFR CEILINGS SOUTH TAF SITES OF OGB AND AGS THEN MOVING NORTH TO REMAINING TAF SITES BY 14Z. THERE SHOULD BE SOME WEAK ISENTROPIC LIFT AS WELL BUT MOIST LAYERS APPEARS TO BE TOO SHALLOW TO GIVE ANY PRECIPITATION SATURDAY. AIRMASS NEAR THE SURFACE APPEARS TO BE TOO DRY FOR ANY FOG SATURDAY MORNING. DEWPOINTS IN THE TEENS EARLY TONIGHT REBOUND TO THE 20S AFTER MIDNIGHT BUT STILL TOO LOW FOR FOG DEVELOPMENT. EXTENDED AVIATION OUTLOOK...MOISTURE ASSOCIATED WITH AN ONSHORE FLOW MAY HELP CAUSE PERIODS OF MVFR CONDITIONS SATURDAY AND IFR TO MVFR CONDITIONS SUNDAY THROUGH TUESDAY...MAINLY DURING THE EARLY MORNING HOURS. && .CAE WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... SC...NONE. GA...NONE. && $$ SYNOPSIS... NEAR TERM... SHORT TERM... LONG TERM... AVIATION...07
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS QUAD CITIES IA IL
1124 AM CST FRI NOV 18 2011 .AVIATION... VFR WX WILL BE SEEN THROUGH 12Z/19 AND LIKELY 18Z/19. RUC MODEL INDICATES THE INVERSION MIXING TO ABOUT 3KFT AGL. SOME MOMENTUM TRANSFER FROM ALOFT IS OCCURRING WHICH IS LIKELY RESULTING IN LOW LEVEL TURBULENCE DUE TO MIXING. THE INVERSION BEGINS TO RE- ESTABLISH BY 00Z/19 SO WINDS WL DECREASE AFT 22Z/18. AFT 00Z/19 MODELS GENERALLY SHOW 30-35 KTS ARND 2KFT AGL WHICH COULD RESULT IN LLWS BUT SHEAR VALUES ARE MARGINAL ARND 20 KTS. A SCT TO BKN DECK AT 4-6KFT AGL SHOULD DVLP AFT 12Z/19 AS MOISTURE ADVECTS IN. ..08.. && .PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 1054 AM CST FRI NOV 18 2011/ UPDATE... A FAIRLY SUBSTANTIAL UPDATE TO THE FCST HAS BEEN DONE BASED ON SATELLITE AND SFC OBS TRENDS THROUGH MID MORNING. A WEAK SHORTWAVE MOVING THROUGH IN THE FLOW ALOFT HAS HELPED GENERATE OPAQUE CI/CS THAT IS HELPING TO SUPPRESS TEMPERATURES. RUC TRENDS SHOW THIS SHORTWAVE EXITING THE AREA DURING THE AFTERNOON SO SKIES WILL EVENTUALLY CLEAR. THE MORE SUBSTANTIAL CLOUD COVER IS HELPING TO SUPPRESS TEMPERATURES IN SPITE OF THE WAA THAT IS OCCURRING. RUC TRENDS NOW INDICATE THE INVERSION ONLY MIXING TO AROUND 900MB. THIS LOWER MIXING HEIGHT COMBINED WITH MORE CLOUDS WILL RESULT IN TEMPERATURES BEING A BIT LOWER THAN FCST. ADDITIONALLY...THE LOWER MIXING HEIGHT WILL NOT MIX DOWN AS MUCH HIGHER MOMENTUM AIR ALOFT. WINDY CONDITIONS WILL BE SEEN BUT NO HEADLINES APPEAR WARRANTED. THE MODELS EITHER VERIFIED OR INITIALIZED TOO MOIST IN THE LOWER LEVELS BASED ON 12Z UA DATA. THIS MOIST BIAS WILL PLAY INTO THE FCST FOR TONIGHT AND SATURDAY WHICH WILL BE DISCUSSED MORE THOROUGHLY IN THE AFTERNOON DISCUSSION. AN UPDATED FCST HAS BEEN SENT. .08.. && .DVN WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... IA...NONE. IL...NONE. MO...NONE. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS QUAD CITIES IA IL
1054 AM CST FRI NOV 18 2011 .UPDATE... A FAIRLY SUBSTANTIAL UPDATE TO THE FCST HAS BEEN DONE BASED ON SATELLITE AND SFC OBS TRENDS THROUGH MID MORNING. A WEAK SHORTWAVE MOVING THROUGH IN THE FLOW ALOFT HAS HELPED GENERATE OPAQUE CI/CS THAT IS HELPING TO SUPPRESS TEMPERATURES. RUC TRENDS SHOW THIS SHORTWAVE EXITING THE AREA DURING THE AFTERNOON SO SKIES WILL EVENTUALLY CLEAR. THE MORE SUBSTANTIAL CLOUD COVER IS HELPING TO SUPPRESS TEMPERATURES IN SPITE OF THE WAA THAT IS OCCURRING. RUC TRENDS NOW INDICATE THE INVERSION ONLY MIXING TO AROUND 900MB. THIS LOWER MIXING HEIGHT COMBINED WITH MORE CLOUDS WILL RESULT IN TEMPERATURES BEING A BIT LOWER THAN FCST. ADDITIONALLY...THE LOWER MIXING HEIGHT WILL NOT MIX DOWN AS MUCH HIGHER MOMENTUM AIR ALOFT. WINDY CONDITIONS WILL BE SEEN BUT NO HEADLINES APPEAR WARRANTED. THE MODELS EITHER VERIFIED OR INITIALIZED TOO MOIST IN THE LOWER LEVELS BASED ON 12Z UA DATA. THIS MOIST BIAS WILL PLAY INTO THE FCST FOR TONIGHT AND SATURDAY WHICH WILL BE DISCUSSED MORE THOROUGHLY IN THE AFTERNOON DISCUSSION. AN UPDATED FCST HAS BEEN SENT. ..08.. && .DVN WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... IA...NONE. IL...NONE. MO...NONE. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS MARQUETTE MI
1233 PM EST FRI NOV 18 2011 UPDATED AVIATION DISCUSSION FOR 18Z TAFS .SYNOPSIS... WV IMAGERY AND RUC ANALYSIS INDICATED A MAINLY ZONAL PATTERN ACROSS THE CONUS. SEVERAL WEAK SHORTWAVES WERE EMBEDDED IN THE WRLY FLOW OVER THE NRN PLAINS AND ADJOINING PORTIONS OF SRN CANADA. A STRONGER UPPER LEVEL JET AND SHORTWAVE TROUGH THAT WILL IMPACT WEATHER SATURDAY WAS MOVING INTO THE PAC NW. RADAR RETURNS OVER NRN WI AND SW UPPER MI WERE INCREASING AS WAA AND ISENTROPIC ASCENT INCREASED AHEAD OF A SFC TROUGH OVER THE PLAINS. SFC OBS INDICATED THAT THE PCPN WAS MAINLY ALOFT. && .DISCUSSION... TODAY AND TONIGHT...THE NAM/GFS SHOW A BAND OF 285-295K ISENTROPIC LIFT MOVING ACROSS UPPER MI. HOWEVER...THE NAM DEPICTION OF SLOWER/LESS SATURATION IN THE LOWER LEVELS (BELOW 850 MB) LOOKS MORE REALISTIC GIVEN UPSTREAM OBS/SOUNDINGS. SO...EXPECT ANY PCPN WILL BE MORE LIGHT/PATCHY AND ONLY SLIGHT CHANCE TO CHANCE POPS WERE INCLUDED. AS ANOTHER WEAK SHORTWAVE AND ASSOCIATED AREA OF 700-600 MB FGEN MOVES INTO WRN LAKE SUPERIOR AND WRN UPPER MI LATE TODAY AND THIS EVENING...SOME PATCHY LIGHT SNOW OR FLURRIES MAY ALSO PERSIST INTO THE FAR WEST. SATURDAY AND SATURDAY NIGHT...A FAST MOVING WAVE IS EXPECTED TO MOVE FROM THE CENTRAL PLAINS SATURDAY MORNING TO NEAR THE STRAITS BY LATE SATURDAY EVENING. THE GFS/NAM/ECMWF WERE IN REASONABLE AGREEMENT WITH THE TRACK OF THE SFC LOW. HOWEVER...SINCE THERE HAS BEEN SIGNIFICANT VARIATION WITH THE POSITION/STRENGTH OF THE STRONGEST 800-600 MB FGEN AND THE STRUCTURE/PLACEMENT OF THE COUPLED UPPER LEVEL JET...CONFIDENCE IN WHERE ANY HEAVY BANDS OF SNOW WILL SET UP IS LIMITED. MODELS CONSENSUS STILL SUGGESTS THE STRONGER DYNAMICS WILL AFFECT THE WEST HALF OF UPPER MI. SYNOPTIC QPF AMOUNTS OF 0.25 TO 0.50 INCH STILL SEEM REASONABLE GIVEN 4 G/KG MOISTURE AVBL AND THE PERIOD OF STRONG FORCING. SNOW/WATER RATIO VALUES ARE LIKELY TO REMAIN NEAR OR EVEN BELOW 10/1 WITH THE STRONGER UPWARD MOTION BELOW THE -12C TO -15C LAYER. ADDITIONAL UPSLOPE AND LAKE ENHANCEMENT IS EXPECTED NEAR IWD AND OVER N CNTRL UPPER MI. HOWEVER...THE WINDOW FOR HEAVIER SNOW DURING THE PERIOD OF SYNOPTIC FORCING IS RELATIVELY SHORT. GIVEN THE AMOUNT OF UNCERTAINTY AND WITH OVERALL SNOWFALL AMOUNTS EXPECTED TO REMAIN MAINLY IN THE 3 TO 7 INCH RANGE BTWN 18Z SAT AND 12Z SUN AN SPS RATHER THAN A WATCH WAS ISSUED. A NAM/GFS BLEND OF LOW LEVEL THICKNESS/WET BULB ZERO HEIGHTS WERE USED FOR PLACEMENT OF THE RAIN SNOW LINE FROM ABOUT KP53 TO JUST SE OF KIMT. SUNDAY....N TO NNW WINDS 850 MB TEMP TO AROUND -11C SHOULD KEEP SOME SCT -SHSN GOING IN THE MORNING. AS THE SFC RIDGE BUILDS INTO THE AREA IN THE AFTERNOON ALONG WITH DRIER AIR AND LOWER INVERSION HEIGHTS...ANY REMAINING LES WILL TAPER OFF. FOR THE EXTENDED...SFC TROUGH SLIDES ACROSS MAINLY LK SUPERIOR ON MONDAY LEADING TO WARM AIR ADVECTION ALOFT AND SOME ISENTROPIC LIFT. GFS/CANADIAN FAVOR A PERIOD OF LGT SNOW MONDAY BUT FOR MOST PART THE ECMWF REMAINS DRY. GFS FCST SOUNDINGS SHOW DEEP MOISTURE AND LIFT ACTING UPON FAVORABLE TEMPS FOR SNOW INITIATION...SO AT LEAST THE GFS QPF IS CONSISTENT WITH ITS OTHER MODEL FIELDS. SHORTWAVE IS FCST TO TRACK MAINLY ACROSS LK SUPERIOR AND WOULD EXPECT GREATEST CHANCE OF SATURATION/PCPN TO OCCUR THERE AS WELL. ONLY HAVE CHANCE POPS ON THE KEWEENAW. EVEN IF GFS IS CORRECT...WOULD ONLY SEE SUB ADVY SNOW AMOUNTS...AND THAT IS PRETTY GENEROUS. AFTER TROUGH EXITS...LOOKS LIKE A QUIET PERIOD OF WEATHER OVR UPR LAKES LEADING INTO THE THANKSGIVING HOLIDAY AS WRLY FLOW KEEPS MAIN STORM TRACK SUPPRESSED TO SOUTH. MAY BE A SYSTEM THAT AFFECTS LOWER MICHIGAN LATER TUESDAY INTO TUESDAY NIGHT...BUT THAT SHOULD BE GONE BY THE BUSY WEDNESDAY TRAVEL DAY WITH HIGH PRESSURE BUILDING OVR UPR LAKES REGION. SEEMS LIKE NICE WARMUP COULD OCCUR ON THANKSGIVING ONCE THE HIGH MOVES EAST LEADING TO RETURN SW FLOW AT SFC. GFS SOUNDINGS SHOW LOWER INVERSION BUT EVEN LIMITED MIXING YIELDS HIGHS WELL INTO THE 40S. GIVEN THE SW WINDS...INCREASED TEMPS FOR DOWNSLOPE AREAS NEAR LK SUPERIOR TOWARD 50 DEGREES...CLOSER TO BIAS CORRECTED CONSENSUS. LOOKS LIKE VERY NICE WEATHER FOR THE THANKSGIVING HOLIDAY...AND LIKELY INTO FRIDAY TOO AS SW WINDS CONTINUE TO PUSH WARM AIR INTO THE UPR LAKES AHEAD OF DEVELOPING TROUGH OVR THE PLAINS. RECORD HIGHS FOR 24-25 NOVEMBER ARE MAINLY IN THE MID TO UPR 50S ACROSS THE CWA. && .AVIATION /FOR THE 18Z TAF ISSUANCE/... VFR CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED THROUGH THIS EVENING AT ALL SITES. BY LATE TONIGHT...PASSAGE OF WEAK LOW PRESSURE TROUGH MAY RESULT IN CIGS BECOMING MVFR AT KIWD AND KCMX. CONDITIONS WILL DETERIORATE LATE TONIGHT THROUGH SATURDAY AS A LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM MOVES SOUTHEAST OF THE AREA. WIDESPREAD IFR/LIFR CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED BEGINNING SATURDAY AFTN AT ALL THREE TAF SITES AS WIDESPREAD/STEADY WET SNOW WORKS ACROSS MOST OF UPPER MICHIGAN. CONDITIONS WILL NOT IMPROVE UNTIL SUNDAY MORNING AS THE LOW MOVES AWAY FROM THE AREA. && .MARINE /FOR THE 4 AM LAKE SUPERIOR FORECAST ISSUANCE/... WEST-TO-EAST ORIENTED SFC TROUGH PASSES ACROSS LK SUPERIOR TODAY LEADING TO DEVELOPING SE WINDS OVR WESTERN LK AND GUSTY SOUTHERLY WINDS TO 30 KTS OVER EASTERN SECTIONS. WINDS DIMINISH TONIGHT...THEN INCREASE BY LATE SATURDAY WITH ARRIVAL OF LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM FM THE SOUTHERN PLAINS. SFC LOW NOT FCST TO DEEPEN SIGNIFICANTLY BUT THERE IS DECENT COLD AIR RUSHING IN FM THE NORTH IN WAKE OF THE SYSTEM. CANNOT RULE OUT LOW END NORTHERLY GALES SATURDAY NIGHT OVER CNTRL LK SUPERIOR. NOT NEAR ENOUGH CONFIDENCE TO ISSUE GALE WATCH AT THIS POINT THOUGH. SHOULD BE A WIDESPREAD SNOW OVER MOST OF LK SUPERIOR AS THE LOW MOVES THROUGH THE AREA. LOW THEN QUICKLY SLIDES EAST SUNDAY AND WINDS DIMINISH BY SUNDAY AFTN. WINDS SHOULD STAY LESS THAN 25 KTS EARLY NEXT WEEK AS A WEAK TROUGH MOVES ACROSS FOLLOWED BY A LARGE AREA OF HIGH PRESSURE. && .MQT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... UPPER MICHIGAN... NONE. LAKE SUPERIOR... NONE. LAKE MICHIGAN... NONE. && $$ SYNOPSIS...JLB DISCUSSION...JLB AVIATION...TITUS MARINE...JLA
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS GRAND FORKS ND
1037 AM CST FRI NOV 18 2011 .DISCUSSION... MAIN CHANGE FOR THE MORNING UPDATE WAS TO ADD SOME LOW POPS TO THE SOUTHEASTERN COUNTIES. RADAR RETURNS HAVE BEEN ONGOING FROM SOUTH CENTRAL ND INTO THE PARK RAPIDS AREA. HOWEVER...DEWPOINT DEPRESSIONS ARE STILL LARGE AND NOTHING IS REACHING THE GROUND. NAM HAS COME MORE INTO LINE WITH THE 06Z GFS...PRODUCING SOME QPF THIS AFTERNOON OVER OUR SOUTHEASTERN COUNTIES. THE RUC AND HRRR ALSO START TO SHOW A LITTLE BIT OF ACCUMULATING PRECIP. THINK THAT IT WILL TAKE A WHILE TO SATURATE DOWN...BUT MODEL SOUNDINGS HAVE THE LOWER LEVEL RH VALUES INCREASING DURING THE 18-21Z TIME FRAME. INCLUDED SOME LOW POPS FOR RAIN OR SNOW SHOWERS IN OUR SOUTHEAST. ALSO INCREASED CLOUDS AND DECREASED AFTERNOON TEMPERATURES A BIT. && .AVIATION... CONDITIONS WILL REMAIN VFR FOR THE NEXT FEW HOURS...BUT MVFR CEILINGS WILL MOVE INTO KDVL BY 18Z OR SO. BORDERLINE VFR/MVFR CEILINGS WILL SPREAD EASTWARD THROUGH THE FORECAST AREA LATER DURING THE AFTERNOON AND SHOULD BE MVFR INTO TONIGHT. LIGHT AND VARIABLE WINDS WILL PICK UP OUT OF THE WEST AND NORTHWEST BY THIS EVENING. && .PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 422 AM CST FRI NOV 18 2011/ SHORT TERM...TODAY THROUGH SUNDAY PRIMARY FORECAST CHALLENGES INCLUDE CLOUD TRENDS AND TEMPERATURES TODAY AND THEN SNOW CHANCES AND AMOUNTS THROUGH THE DAY ON SATURDAY AS A STRONG LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM MOVES ACROSS IOWA. GFS/ NAM/ECMWF/GEM IN GOOD AGREEMENT AND WILL USE A MODEL BLEND FOR THIS FORECAST PACKAGE. UPPER LEVEL SHORT-WAVE CURRENTLY ACROSS SOUTHERN SASKATCHEWAN WILL MOVE ALONG THE INTERNATIONAL BORDER THROUGH THE DAY. THE SURFACE LOW IS JUST SOUTH OF MINOT AND IS PROGGED TO WEAKEN AND DROP SOUTHEAST TOWARD MINNEAPOLIS BY 00 UTC TONIGHT. REMAINING LIGHT SNOW IS EXPECTED TO REMAIN NORTH OF THE CANADIAN BORDER... ALTHOUGH LATEST MODELS SHOW SOME LIGHT QPF THIS AFTERNOON ACROSS THE SOUTHEAST FORECAST AREA COINCIDENT WITH TRAILING COLD FRONT. CROSS SECTIONS SUGGEST FAIRLY DRY LOW-LEVELS SO WILL KEEP FORECAST DRY FOR NOW...BUT SOMETHING TO WATCH THROUGH THE DAY. BETTER CHANCE FOR LIGHT SNOW...ALBEIT SLIGHT...WILL BE ACROSS THE DEVILS LAKE BASIN THIS AFTERNOON AS LOW STRATUS DECK ACROSS SOUTHERN CANADA CREEPS SOUTHWARD THROUGH THE DAY. OVERALL...EXPECT FILTERED SUNSHINE TODAY THROUGH MID-HIGH LEVEL CLOUDS. STRONG COLD AIR ADVECTION WILL ACCOMPANY FRONTAL PASSAGE... BUT SHOULD OCCUR LATE ENOUGH IN THE DAY FOR HIGH TEMPERATURES TO STILL REACH THE LOWER 20S IN THE NORTHWEST TO NEAR 40 DEGREES IN THE FAR SOUTH. COLDER THERMAL PROFILE...HOWEVER...WILL ALLOW NIGHTTIME LOWS TO DIP INTO THE SINGLE DIGITS ACROSS THE NORTH WHERE SOME CLEARING IS POSSIBLE TO THE LOW 20S ACROSS THE SOUTH. ATTENTION THEN TURNS TO SATURDAY AS A STRONG SURFACE LOW EJECTS FROM EASTERN CO AND INTO SOUTHERN WI 06 UTC SUNDAY. BEST LINKAGE BETWEEN STRONG 850 TO 700 HPA FRONTOGENESIS AND 500 TO 300 HPA Q-VECTOR CONVERGENCE WILL BE ALONG A LINE FROM PIERRE TO WATERTOWN TO ST CLOUD WHERE A SOLID 4 TO 6 INCHES OF SNOW IS POSSIBLE. FARTHER NORTH ACROSS THE EXTREME SOUTHERN FORECAST AREA...EXPECT 1 TO 3 INCHES OF NEW ACCUMULATION. A WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY MAY BE NEEDED...BUT WILL LET LATER SHIFTS EVALUATE POSSIBLE HEADLINES. THERE SHOULD BE A SHARP CUT-OFF IN PRECIPITATION FROM SOUTH TO NORTH GIVEN NORTHERLY WIND AROUND SOUTHERN ALBERTA HIGH ADVECTING DRIER AIR INTO THE REGION. FARGO MAY SEE AROUND A HALF INCH WITH AREAS NORTH OF THE HIGHWAY 200 CORRIDOR SEEING LITTLE TO NO ACCUMULATION. TEMPERATURES WILL CONTINUE TO FALL ON SATURDAY WITH REINFORCING SHOTS OF COLD AIR. HIGHS WILL TOP OUT IN THE LOWER TEENS TO LOWER 20S. REMAINING SNOW WILL MOVE OUT OF THE REGION SATURDAY NIGHT... ALLOWING FOR A DRY SUNDAY WITH INCREASING SUNSHINE. IF ENOUGH CLEARING OCCURS EARLY IN THE DAY...MORNING LOWS WILL DROP INTO THE SINGLE DIGITS BELOW ZERO IN SOME PLACES. HIGHS WILL ONLY CLIMB INTO THE TEENS TO LOWER 20S. LONG TERM...SUNDAY NIGHT THROUGH THANKSGIVING EXPECT DRY WEATHER WITH TEMPS WARMING ABOVE NORMAL BY WED. AN UPPER RIDGE IS WELL PROGGED BY ALL MODELS...SO EXPECT TEMPS TO WARM ALONG WITH DRY WEATHER THROUGH AT LEAST THANKSGIVING. NO MAJOR STORMS ARE ON THE HORIZON FOR THE EXTENDED PERIOD. && .FGF WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... ND...NONE. MN...NONE. && $$ JR
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS SPOKANE WA
302 PM PST Fri Nov 18 2011 .SYNOPSIS... Scattered clusters of heavy snow showers will continue to impact most of eastern Washington and north Idaho through tonight ahead of an arctic boundary moving in from the Northeast. As the front moves through...drier and cooler weather is expected with the largest threat of snow moving into southeast Washington and north central Idaho on Saturday. Following a break in the weather Sunday, unsettled weather will return for most of next week with most of the snow expected to occur near the cascades and northern mountains. && .DISCUSSION... Tonight...difficult forecast scenario continues to unfold late this afternoon as a two distinct air masses remain fixed over the Inland Northwest between a weakening frontal occlusion. Based on surface wind directions...the front extended approximately from the Coulee City area south toward the central Idaho Panhandle. North of this boundary was a shallow..yet well defined arctic air- mass with persistent snows extending from the Okanogan Highlands east toward Sandpoint. Cloud tops in this region have warmed considerably from this morning and we expect snow rates to ramp down as well as much drier air works in below 850 mbs. There is already evidence of this down the Purcell Trench as both Bonners Ferry and Coeur d`Alene have seen their dewpoints plunge into the upper teens. Farther west...the drier air will be slower to move in so...we will extend the winter highlights for the NE Washington mountains and Okanogan Highlands into the evening and mention another 1-2" of snow possible. South of the frontal occlusion...the atmosphere was very unstable for this time of year. We continue to see showers develop over Adams and Whitman counties with 45-50dbz which suggests the presence of intense precipitation which was likely a mix of rain...snow...and graupel. This activity will will continue to track to the northeast...hitting southern portions of Spokane County...the northern Palouse ...and western Columbia Basin. We would expect this activity to dwindle some as the frontal occlusion weakens and the potential instability begins to wane with the setting sun. However any small ripple in the upper atmosphere will provide the needed lift to generate a new batch of showers. The toughest part of the forecast is what to do in the region between the two air masses...i.e. Spokane and Coeur d`Alene area. The NAM solution and even the GFS both suggest along the leading edge of the arctic boundary we should be seeing some intense snow based on a deep frontal lifting and a saturated dendritic layer. However the radar is telling a different story. The latest HRRR solution though does mesh with the current radar and really downplays the GFS and NAM scenario. Thus we still expect we will see some snow develop late this afternoon and early this evening...but it should be significantly lighter than the .25" of liquid forecast by the NAM. If the .25" were to develop between Spokane and Coeur d`Alene we would see up to 3" of snow or more. However based on road temps warmer than 35-40 and air temps still above freezing...at least below 2000 feet it may have a hard time accumulating to that depth. We will hold onto some light snow accumulations into the evening...but based on the small accumulations...we will get rid of the winter storm warnings and cover any localized situations via short term forecasts. Once the arctic airmass passes through...the threat of significant snowfall will taper off rapidly. How far south and west the front gets tonight is tough to determine...but we suspect it won`t drop into our southeast zones until tomorrow morning. fx Saturday through Sunday night: Overall, the forecast will begin to trend drier from north to south as the cooler modified Canadian air spills into the Inland NW. This will make for a brisk breezy day for most locations north of Interstate 90 but little in the way of snowfall. Further south, we will be monitoring one more midlevel disturbance (vort lobe) that will skirt southern WA and the Idaho Panhandle on Saturday keeping the potential for isolated to scattered light snow showers throughout the day Saturday. This feature will drop into the region from the northern tip of Vancouver Island reaching the Cascades and southwestern Basin Saturday morning then Blues...Palouse...and Camas Prairie Saturday afternoon. The air mass will remain conditionally unstable with modeled 700-500mb lapse rates remaining within the 7.5-8.5 C/km range. While QPF amounts are suggested to be just a few hundredths, the convective nature to the showers may lead to a quick inch anywhere from Plain...along the extreme southern Columbia Basin...Palouse... Blues Mtns...and potions of the Idaho Panhandle mainly south of I-90. Temperatures will be well below normal with highs only climbing into the 20`s to mid 30`s with teens in the northern mountains. With little warming on Saturday and fresh snow cover across most northern valleys, overnight lows will be falling into the cold to very cold category. Winds will be weakening but there is some uncertainty on the amount of clearing aloft and potential for fog. The northwestern quadrant of the CWA look to have the highest potential for clearing skies so adjusted low temperatures well below model guidance for locations in the Methow Valley, East Slopes, and Okanogan Country where single digits to below zero. This may also be the case for the valleys of northeastern WA and northern ID but with models hanging on to some cloudiness...opted to only go single digits. If skies clear, it is almost a given that locations like Deer Park, Priest Lake, Sandpoint, Rathdrum, and Bonners Ferry will dip below zero due to the fresh snow that has fallen. /sb Monday through Friday: A warm front will move across the inland northwest Monday afternoon. Strong southwesterly winds will usher in some warmer 850 mb temperatures. Precipitation will start off as snow Monday morning, and then by afternoon snow will change over to rain across the basin, palouse and portions of the Spokane/COE areas. Tuesday we continue the moist southwest flow with showers continuing. Warmer air will continue to move north so that all valleys will see rain or a rain/snow mix. An upper level trough will approach the west coast Wednesday. Models start to diverge on where to point the moisture as the trough digs off southern California. The 12z ECMWF did trend toward the 12z GFS, but it still remains faster, though not as fast as the Canadian. Given the highly active weather pattern through the entire extended forecast, kept chance of precipitation above climatology. Monday temperatures start out at or below climatology, but as the warmer air moves in late Monday temperatures will rise to at or slightly above climatology through the remainder of the forecast. /Nisbet && .AVIATION... 18Z TAFs...Cold, unstable air mass setting up over Eastern WA and Northern ID will continue to fuel snow showers through this evening. The most organized snow shower activity will focus from KOMK to KCOE along an approaching frontal boundary sagging in from the N/NE. A midlevel wave dropping SE along this boundary is expected to re-organize snow bands over the Spokane-Coeur D Alene corridor arnd 22z-02z. Aft 02z...a shallow cold front should slide into KGEG strengthening NE flow and bring brief low-level drying. This appears to be short-lived as another surge of moisture and warmer air approaches from the SW strengthening low-level inversions and potential for incr MVFR cigs aft 12z along with -SHSN at KEAT. Otherwise -SHSN will be more hit or miss for KPUW and KLWS/KMWH with the biggest concern being the present ifr fog and stratus which should gradually lift into mvfr stratus or better this aftn. /sb && .PRELIMINARY POINT TEMPS/POPS... Spokane 20 26 12 29 15 37 / 80 20 20 10 10 30 Coeur d`Alene 20 25 12 29 13 37 / 90 20 20 10 10 40 Pullman 22 29 17 32 16 37 / 70 40 20 10 10 20 Lewiston 29 35 22 37 25 44 / 50 50 20 10 10 20 Colville 15 25 9 28 12 33 / 50 10 10 10 20 60 Sandpoint 17 22 9 28 11 35 / 60 10 20 20 20 60 Kellogg 20 23 15 27 14 33 / 90 30 20 20 10 50 Moses Lake 19 32 10 32 17 37 / 20 30 10 10 10 30 Wenatchee 24 32 13 32 23 35 / 20 40 10 10 30 40 Omak 16 28 4 32 14 33 / 20 20 10 10 30 60 && .OTX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... ID...Winter Storm Warning until 10 PM PST this evening for Central Panhandle Mountains-Northern Panhandle. WA...Winter Storm Warning until 10 PM PST this evening for Northeast Mountains Winter Weather Advisory until 10 PM PST this evening for Okanogan Highlands. && $$